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I don't know if you 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: guys know how how sincerely happy the fact that people 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: are enjoying the podcast, how how much that means to 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: me and everybody works on it because you know we 32 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: we we do it for love. My co host for 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: tonight is my man Toby Morse. Let's give it up 34 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: to the band that was rocking beforehand. Um, we got 35 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: the little drummer boy tonight, Max Morris. Max is gonna 36 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: doing the breaks. Max, Just give a little something. Just 37 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: let's give a little sample, Like give me something like 38 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: hard but not too hard, just to start things off. 39 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: Just give me a little a little something on the 40 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: beat real quick, and you could do a drummer like 41 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: a let me get one of those. So whenever I 42 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: do something funny, Max, I want you to go, there 43 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: you go. Or whenever I do something not funny, it'll 44 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: help it make it be funny. Or so if I 45 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: say a bad joke, you go, No, you go, but 46 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: there you go. Not only do we not rehearse, we 47 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: don't fact checks. That's a fact. So uh man, this is, 48 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: this is, this is I can't believe that we sold 49 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: out this this uh this theater thanks to the cress Wood. Um. 50 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: First of all, you know, when we get into true romance, 51 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: obviously I'm here on the film, you know the I'm 52 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: just a piece of the film. I could just sort 53 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: of go into uh you know, I was casting that film. Um, 54 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: the the one of the she was the assistant cast 55 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: and director at that time. The the the part of 56 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Dick Ritchie Um was actually written in the script. I 57 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: believe it was written in the script. I know it 58 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: was in the casting. Um breakdown. It was supposed to 59 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: be written for a black dude, So they could have 60 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: they could have made it. Uh the fight for equality 61 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: at the Oscars back then, I fucked that all up. 62 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: So um they were having trouble casting that part. UM. 63 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: I had originally read for one of the roles that 64 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: shown that Chris Penn, the late great Chris Penn, beautiful actor, 65 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: beautiful person UM, one of those parts that him in 66 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: times size more. But I was too young. And then 67 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: I UM, I was originally cast in the part that 68 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: my friend Kevin Corrigan UM, who was playing one of 69 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: the gangsters. UM. I was originally casting that part. And 70 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: they couldn't cast a part of Dick Ritchie. UM. So 71 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: Mary Vernew I said, you should get that guy rapp 72 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: Reports to come in and read. He's really like that 73 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: in real life. At the time, I was just a 74 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: young actor, you know, looking for my big break. So 75 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: they had me, they you know, they were on a 76 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: time crush. They had me come in on a sad today. 77 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: Um and and and I remember going in to read 78 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: for Tony Scott, the late great Tony Scott and and 79 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: um and the casting director and and um, you know, 80 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: and and I was so sort of gung ho and focus. 81 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: And I told him, I said, listen, whatever you do, 82 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: do not let me get out of here until I 83 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: get it right. And they were like, We're not gonna 84 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: let you leave until you get it right. And I 85 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: read and read and read, and I remember when I 86 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: when I was reading this way, at one point I 87 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: looked back and behind me on the wall were all 88 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: the pictures of everybody who who was already cast. So 89 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: it was Christian Slater, Patricia Arquette, Samuel Jackson, Um, Christopher Walking, 90 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: Gary Oldman. I remember looking up, and I'm just I'm 91 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty four years old. I'm a humongous 92 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: fan of of acting and of actors. And I remember 93 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: glancing back and being like, oh shit. But but the 94 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: reality with that script and that and that and True 95 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: Romance was is that Quentin Tarantino had just come off 96 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: of Um Reservoir Dogs and Natural Born Killers was on 97 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: its way out, and there was so much heat and 98 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: excitement on him unlike I've seen since then. Um, and 99 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: the script was going around. And this is before um, 100 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, you could email scripts. This is before you 101 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, you had to get the physical script. So, 102 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, actor friends of mine like would be like, 103 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: did you read that True Romance script? Yeah? I read it, 104 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, like it was sort of circulating around and 105 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: then he'd be like, oh, I heard, you know, Christopher 106 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: Watkins playing that part, oh Ship, And then I heard 107 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: Val Kilmer's playing Elvis, oh Ship and Gary Oleman's playing 108 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: the other part, oh Ship. And it just was building 109 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: and building and building. Um, and I remember I feel 110 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: like it had something to do. It was around fourth 111 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: of July, and I remember I got I went on 112 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: a Saturday, right it was, and it was a long weekend. 113 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: And on a Tuesday, I got the call that I 114 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: got the part to play Dick Ritchie, and um, it was. 115 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful time. And again you know, I'm 116 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm the one here talking about the film, but 117 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: you know it's by no means you know my movie. 118 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, the whole thing started with Quentin and uh 119 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: you know he he gave the script to Tony Scott 120 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I'll be honest. I was the 121 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: only movie that I've ever done that I knew was 122 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: going to be a good movie. You just knew the 123 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: ingredients because when you make a movie, when you make 124 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: a movie, it's like it's like if you're baking a cake. 125 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: All the ingredients were there, the recipe was there, and 126 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: you had a fantastic chef, and it just got better 127 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: and better and better while we were doing it. Um, 128 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: I have to disagree on the good movie thing because 129 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: I think I think beautiful girls. No, No, I'm saying 130 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: that that I knew was going to be like you knew, 131 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: everybody knew, because I've done a lot of movies that 132 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: are learning. I've done a lot of movies that, thank you, Dake, 133 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that it's the only good movie 134 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: I try, Josh, I've been in a lot of bad ones. 135 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: But I got a couple of dudes deep blue, deep blue, 136 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: deep blue, cy j sorry about that. I don't want to. 137 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm not We're not here for that for those of you. UM, 138 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: who's just I'm just curious because I want to get 139 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: just the lay of the land here. Who listens to 140 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: the Iron Rapport stereo podcast? All right, good? I want 141 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: to make sure if you if you don't listen to 142 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: the Iron Rapports stereo podcast. Um, just so you know, 143 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: a couple of things we don't fact check. Ever, we 144 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: go raw Dog without a bag. Gimo Nettie couldn't make 145 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: it to this because we've been back and forth. My 146 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: co host Gimo Nettie a k a. G. Moody rhymes 147 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: with duty and uh, you know, you know, I don't 148 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: wear a lot of bling, but we we were the 149 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen Championship podcasters, so I had to 150 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: wear a ring because you're going live. So so I'll 151 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: open it up, Toby. Um, Toby Morris fancies himself. He 152 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: thinks he's actually really the Christian Slater character in real 153 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: real life. And they had a son that looks more 154 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: like me than then so they could grow right, because 155 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: he's the he's the he's the the fake Dick Ritchie. 156 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: So so I'll ask you the first question, you know, 157 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: what is it about? And then I would love to 158 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, open up to fans, you know, to anybody 159 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: who's got questions about the movie. I can't wait to 160 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: hear people who saw it for the first time if 161 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: it lived up to the hype and expectations, etcetera, etcetera. 162 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: So I'll ask you the first question, Toby, what is 163 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: it about true Romance that appeals to you twentysomething years 164 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: later the movie itself, besides the fact that it's about 165 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: my life, um, in my wife's life. Um. At the 166 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: time when I saw that movie, UM, I didn't have 167 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't I didn't have I didn't have a girlfriend, 168 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: I didn't have a love. And it was something about 169 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: that movie and I and my I just my wife 170 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: had just moved to New York when it came out, 171 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: but she saw it in Chicago before she moved to 172 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: I had already seen it in New York. This is 173 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: something about the movie that's so strong and so passionate 174 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: and so real about true love. Um, no matter what, what, 175 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: what's the circumstances, no matter what, anything that comes in 176 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: front of you, that real love, no matter what, I 177 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: can't make it through anything, and that um, it exists. 178 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: And don't get all Emo told me. I'm getting I'm 179 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: starting to hear the song in my head. They have 180 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: been to then, um it just it just connected with me. 181 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: And then and then I met my Alabama now married 182 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: twenty years to my Alabama. So okay, the other thing 183 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: about I'm not sure do you remember the first time 184 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: you saw it? Where you saw it? I saw I 185 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: saw it in New York. I saw New York like 186 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: at a theater, at the theater. Yeah, when it came out. 187 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: I was twenty three, and the same as you probably 188 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: listen non age me up here. It's hard enough watching 189 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: that ship look like it's the perfect it's the perfect 190 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: violent love movie. It's a violent and every aspect of it, yes, 191 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: from beginning to end. And um, I don't really think 192 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: that I'm really Clarence, because I don't know you kind 193 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: of think that you're actually Clarence. I do to say this. 194 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: When I when I first met you, we got jaywalking 195 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: tickets together. I knew who you were, but obviously didn't 196 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: know why I was. And I was like, holy sh it, 197 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm getting jaywalking tickets with Dick Ritchie was in front 198 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: of the heavy found the theater and you were yelling 199 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: at the cops because you said, I'm from New York 200 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: and jaywalking tickets whatever, And I was just I was just, 201 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: has anyone ever gotten attempted to get a ticket or 202 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: arrested for jaywalking tickets? Yeah? I think people I don't. 203 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: I think they've given up on that. But that was 204 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: like maybe ten years and fifteen years ago. So Huntington 205 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Beach is still on that jaywalking ship. Right, hundred seventy 206 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: seven dollars jaywalking. I feel like if you have an 207 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: out of town um license to give you charging more? 208 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: For sure? Did we get tickets for Jaywalking at night. 209 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: You fought against that. I just said, you were yelling 210 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: at them. Now, I didn't fight, I don't. I don't know. 211 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: You were getting loud with him. I was like, that's 212 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: Dick Ritchie getting out with the cops. And you know, 213 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: it's funny. We were going, we were trying to go 214 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: see an ll cool J charity concert. To six years later, 215 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm doing a not so incredible shark movie. Yes, yes, yes, 216 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm I have people like that movie, Cynthias. If you 217 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: need to go to sleep or like, you know you're 218 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: gonna watch Deep. I love people like it. It's good. 219 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: It's there on Shark Week. I get a call every year, 220 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: you want to come talk about Deep Poocy. I had 221 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: to live the fucking thing. I don't want to say now. 222 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: It's fun. It's fun. Fun movie. Um so perfect about 223 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: movie in the night show the best movie ever made 224 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: my opinion, Yeah, I think it. It's up there. You 225 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: know the music is is is very good at watching 226 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: the film for the first time in a while. Yeah, 227 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: the the music that that that theme that yes from 228 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: the movie bad Lands, which the script you know Tarantino. Um, 229 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: the film is totally different. But I know he was 230 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: inspired um from the movie bad Lands UM with UM 231 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: Martin Sheen and Sissy Spasic and and the music they 232 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: they sort of remixed it UM for for true Romance, 233 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: And I didn't know that was was happening, you know 234 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: that at the time, you know, like working with Christian 235 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: Slater at that point in my career, watching him all 236 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: those years before I was even thinking about being an actor, 237 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: was bugged out. And then working with patric Charquette, who 238 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: hadn't done much UM. The film that she had done 239 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: that got her true romance was Indian runner Sean Penn 240 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: film Dark Film. UM. Being on that set, you know, 241 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: James Gandelfini, that was his first film, the late great 242 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: James Gandelfini. Were you there for that that that scene? Yeah? 243 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean you know that like that movie was so 244 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: special and so well written, and there was just so 245 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: much excitement on it. Like I would go to the 246 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: set when I had no business, come into the set 247 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: just to be there, like just because you knew something 248 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: special was happening. So I was there that. I don't 249 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: know why I was there, but I was there the 250 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: day they filmed the the the the film the scene 251 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: that should be in a time capsule, uh with with 252 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: with Um, Dennis Hopper and Christopher Walking amazing. And I 253 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: was there the day they did the scene where James 254 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: Gandelfini was beating up Charquette, and I remember he was 255 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: very gentle with her, but I remember she was like 256 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: getting piste off because you know, you got blood on 257 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: you and this that, and she's in a bra and 258 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, you got this big James Gandelfinie and like 259 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: at the time, James Gandalfeenie was like a goon, you know, 260 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: he was like a young goon and you know, but 261 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: he was he was totally sweet and and and professional. 262 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: But I remember, like, you know, she was like, get 263 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: the funk off of me, you know, like in between takes. 264 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: And it's just those kinds of scenes are there, you know, 265 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: they're they're they're challenging to make um and Tony Scott 266 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: was so generous. So Tony Scott, who directed many things 267 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: after True Romance, he had did Top Gun um beforehand, 268 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: and this was sort of his first dark because I 269 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: remember I was like Tony Scott, the guy who did 270 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: Top Gun. He was just perfect to work with, especially 271 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: for me at the time, because you know everybody. You know, 272 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: when you're a young actor, you have all these ideas 273 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: and you think you're you know you're gonna you know, 274 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: you're breaking the mold, and you know you're you're all 275 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: this kind of thing. I didn't know the technical aspects 276 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: of acting for film, but I would always ask him 277 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: ideas and he was always like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 278 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: I try that, or no no, no, no no. But 279 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: he never told me, never made me feel stupid like 280 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: that that that um thing they're the only bad question 281 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: is the one you didn't ask. He embraced all my 282 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: questions and and I was able to take that going 283 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: further with Tony Scott. And Val Kilmer was really big 284 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: back then to have such a role like that, Elvis 285 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: not really showing his face. I think it was the script. 286 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: I think people were so excited with the script. I think, 287 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't think that Val Kilmer knew. 288 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: Probably that you'd only hear his voice or you probably 289 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't been able to get Val Kilmer. But uh, he 290 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: was huge. Val Kilmer, he was top Gune. He was 291 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: that he had played van Um, Jim Morrison Ice, I 292 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: mean he did so. He was he was on his 293 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: his thing, and then and Gary Oldman. I mean it 294 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: was I remember being on that set and just you know, like, oh, 295 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: I remember I was in like the makeup trailer with 296 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: Samuel Jackson and it was like young Samuel Jackson. I 297 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh, Ship the dude from Jungle Fever. You know, 298 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: like I couldn't. I couldn't believe it. Um deep blue 299 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: see it right? Then later on I work to them 300 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: in Deep Blue ce it all works fun man, deep 301 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: Lucy Man and all six degrees of deep blue c 302 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: It's haunting you. Um, let's starry about the roller coaster 303 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: because because I remember talking about that a long time ago, 304 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: the roller coaster scene that you've never been on a 305 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: roller coaster since that movie. I haven't been on a 306 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: roller coaster since that movie. The entire movie. The only 307 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: scene that was reshot in True Romance was that fucking 308 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: roller coaster scene. It was shot at Magic Mountain and 309 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: I we we we we went on it three times 310 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: and I was it was it was horrible. I had 311 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: never been on a loop de loop roller coaster and 312 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: and and you know they have cameras in your face 313 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: and I was literally if I was showing Toby when 314 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: we were watching it, because they used parts from the 315 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: first shoot where you see my face and I'm just 316 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: like this, And then we had to reshoot it like 317 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: three weeks later, and they gave me some sort of 318 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: pills so I wouldn't throw up. I was all drugged 319 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: out of my mind. Part of it, I'm like this, 320 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: and then part of it, I'm smiling. But I remember 321 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: being I remember being in the van on the way 322 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: home with Charquette still saying I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. 323 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: She's like, You're not gonna die. We're done, and I 324 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: was like, I feel like I'm gonna fucking die. And 325 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: and and after all that, they called us back to 326 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: reshoot that roller coaster scene, and and Tony Scott was 327 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: just like he. Tony Scott would walk around and he 328 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: every single day anybody who's ever worked with Tony Scotter 329 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: scene he would wear like Daisy Dukes shure. He's British, 330 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: crazy British. And he was like, we're gonna give you medicine, mate, 331 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be fine, mating. He sent me a 332 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: picture later where I'm like I'm literally throwing up and 333 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: he's rubbing my back and he said, there, it looks 334 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: like she actually asked you if you're doing okay. No, 335 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: she was, I was in bad shape. They were laughing. 336 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: They thought it was a fucking joke. Learned Best as 337 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: an online financial advice company focused on empowering people nation 338 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: why to make smart decisions with their money. 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I 356 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: love to hear from people who who have seen the film. 357 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm really curious for people who you know, I'm sure 358 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: it's a film that you've heard a out about, if 359 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: it lived up to your expectations, if you know, if 360 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: you knew much about it, what stood out to you, 361 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: because uh, you know, to be honest, you know, when 362 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: you're this is a movie that um pretty much probably 363 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: every day at least one person brings this movie up. 364 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: To me, it's really stood the test of time. And 365 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: I think at the core of it, it's because of 366 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: the romance. And I think that you know, all the 367 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: flash and the glitz and the the the acting and 368 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But I think at the end, at 369 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: the core of it, I think it's about that relationship 370 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: between Alabama and uh, the real Clarence Worldy. I think 371 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: I think Drexel, I think that Gary omens one of 372 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: the best roles he's ever done. And and I think 373 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: said vicious too. He killed so good. Yeah he killed that. 374 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: And let's talk about those animal crackers. Oh yeah, talk 375 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: about you brought him. Nobody knows why you brought the 376 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: animal and that brought the animal crackers because in the 377 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: original script of your Romance, you guys didn't go to 378 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: the amusement park. You went to the zoo. And for 379 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: some reason, Christian had those at the amusement park. I 380 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: guess he didn't catch it, but he's eating those. And 381 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: you don't really get animal crackers at the amusement park. 382 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: You get at the zoo. So you're gonna get locked 383 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: up for like being like like this is like like moorlines, 384 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: like true romance stalker, like I don't even know that 385 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: you that's why, and that so it wasn't really supposed 386 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: to be there. So and these are and these are 387 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: vegan by default. If they're vegan, some of those the 388 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: vegan police here or anything. But you guys can have 389 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: some of those, so okay. So so we passed the microgon. Um, 390 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a first like, let me get let 391 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: me get thirty seconds of something. Um, give me, give 392 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: me whatever you want, Max, just give me something nice, 393 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: all right, how you doing. I'm a big fan of 394 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: your first film, Zebrahead, and everybody talks about the relationships 395 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: of true romance and how that's like the truest love story, 396 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: but I think that film also has a really incredible 397 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: love story. So uh, as far as couples go, what 398 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: do you think the true romance couple or are that's 399 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: a good question, great question, the zebra head couple or 400 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: the true romance a good question? Ship? What do you 401 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: mean like in a like a like a cage match 402 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: or are you talking about I'm just saying like like 403 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: your favorite like personally like well, I mean you know 404 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: they're they're they're difference because in the in True Romance, 405 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: I was the third wheel. I was the guy cock 406 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: clocking like and they had their hands all over them. 407 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to use this terrible language, Max Nice, I 408 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: really am, but uh, you know both of those films, 409 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: I was very young and extremely um you know, like 410 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 1: when I get to work now, I appreciate it in 411 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: a completely different way then as I did when I 412 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: was young. I never took it for granted, but everything 413 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: I was so lucky, so young. I mean, when you're 414 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how many what age, I'm sure there's 415 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: some people in here in their early twenties. When you're 416 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: that young, despite what you think, you're so fucking stupid. 417 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: And I say that with all due respect because I was. 418 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: I was just there so I mean, everything's happening so fast, 419 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: and and and you know, I was so appreciated. Don't 420 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: leave just I I did two twenty year olds of 421 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: leaving in the back. Then it's just trust me. But 422 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: like Christian, Christian is so I could could attest when 423 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: you're young and you have success. Let's just say Christian 424 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: has always in the ability makes some noise lasing. Yeah, Christian. 425 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: We got a whole lot of legends on the stage 426 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: here tonight, so so so it's hard to pick one. 427 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: But both of those experiences were similar because of the 428 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: I had a true innocence in what I was doing, 429 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: and and I was I still remain a fan, and 430 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 1: and and when I showed up on the set and 431 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: saw Gary Oldman in the makeup trailer, you know, I 432 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: would walk out like, you know, like holy shit, Gary 433 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: Olman's in the makeup trailer. I didn't ask for autograph 434 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to be somewhat professional, but that's what 435 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, And that's what I would 436 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: like call my father, and I'd write down in my 437 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: little diary like holy shit, Gary Olman was in the 438 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: makeup trailer. Samuel Jackson was talking to me like we 439 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: were co workers, were not co workers. You're fucking Samuel Jackson. 440 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: I wants you what's your question? My friend? Oh my god? 441 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: And then I'm not even worth it, Amiel right now. 442 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: But first of all, I would always say I want 443 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: to say some love to Mr Gmotie, Mr gim edit 444 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: that's a word for second, Mr Rebert forty, what was 445 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: the feeling that you have working with a mry great 446 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: Brad Pitt? Who Brad Pitt, Oh Brad Pitt, Mr Brad Pitt. 447 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, the deal with Brad Pitt at the 448 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: time was you knew that Brad Pitt was gonna go 449 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: on to be Brad Pitt. He he had done fell 450 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: when Louise Um, he had done a river runs through 451 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: it um and and he had done a few things, 452 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: but he wasn't like over the top. But him and 453 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: and running across Leonardo DiCaprio as a young Leonardo DiCaprio, 454 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: you they had a certain light on them. There's just 455 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: a charisma um that Brad Pitt had, and there was 456 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: an excitement around him and and you just sort of 457 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: knew what it was going to become. And and he 458 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: was a pleasure, You know that he improved that whole 459 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: thing with the honey Honey bear bomb. That was improv like. 460 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: His part was maybe five or six seven lines written. 461 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: He just was riffing off of it, and you know, 462 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: you know, and he was doing his thing, and he 463 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: was not smoke a real weed. I'm sure he really does. 464 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: What do you want me to say he wasn't smoke 465 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: a real weed. I mean maybe he smoked real week 466 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: before he got there. But so at that, at that moment, 467 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: you were a bigger star than No. No, no, no, 468 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: no no. I wasn't a big no, no, no. If 469 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: you looked at the stats, if you I am, if 470 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: you fact checked, you would see that there was no 471 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: time in my life that I have actually been a 472 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: bigger star than Brad Pitt. But I would say, tru romance, 473 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: you were listen when Brad Pitt, I'm not showing his 474 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: six pack and dumb and Louise we were no longer 475 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: on the same plane. But thanks Max, That's what I'm 476 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: talking about. Pick the pace off, pick the fucking pace up, 477 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: or you're not gonna get a tip. There we go, 478 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: ship man, let's get it going here man. Um so, 479 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: but but but I mean it was everything that you 480 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: expect like he was. He was there was there was 481 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: just like you knew what it was gonna become. Um, 482 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: totally cool, showed up on the set, did his thing, 483 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, went about his business. Um and and uh, 484 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: just a name drop a little bit more. At the time, 485 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: he was dating Juliet Lewis and she she she's me. 486 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: I met her the day that we were shooting True 487 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: Romance because she came to visit Brad Pitt on that set. 488 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: And and and you know we we remain friends and 489 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: I'm still friendly with with with him too. And good people, 490 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: solid people. You know, Brad Pitt has the type of 491 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: fame that you know, when you see him, you're like, oh, ship, 492 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: you're Brad Pitt still to this day twenty something years later, 493 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: because he looks like Brad Pitt. It's like, you know, 494 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: being friends with the Statue of Liberty or some ship. 495 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: Like he just there you go, Max, That's what I'm 496 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: talking about. So that's that's the Brad Pitt end of 497 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: the True Roman stuff. Good dude, it ain't easy being 498 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: Brad Pitt. No. I mean like there's a no, no. 499 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Let me say something like 500 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: the people are going fucking nuts here right now for me, 501 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: right all right, imagine if Brad Pitt was here. I 502 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: mean we're talking about like a guy he can't go 503 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: into any coffee shop. No, no, the what I'm saying about. 504 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: When that kind of fame, there's a certain amount of 505 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: prisoner aspect to it because everywhere you go, you're people, 506 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: you're you're recognized, and and it sort of takes away 507 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: from your sort of normalcy. Like Sylvester Saloone cannot go 508 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, literally the entire planet without somebody saying, 509 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of fucking rocky. I got it, 510 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: I know, so including me. Yeah, you punish him good questions. 511 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate. This guy's name is Dom and he's a 512 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: hardcore can he came from Arizona? Correct? Yea, from Phoenix. 513 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: You came all the way from Arizona just to see 514 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: you guys. Give him a little something to give him 515 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: Arizona beat. Thanks max Um. First of all, this is 516 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: such a unique experience, especially for someone that's watching the 517 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: movie for the first time the first time, not not 518 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: for me, but for those of that are here watching 519 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: it for the first time. So thank you. Guys for 520 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: doing this in the first place. My question is kind 521 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: of for both of you, Um, how did your relationship 522 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: evolved from totally just being a huge fan of the 523 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: movie to running into Dick Ritchie, getting Jaywalking tickets with him, 524 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: to Michael doing the intro to Nothing to Prove, to 525 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: doing the artwork for the new album, and now sitting 526 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: here today discussing the film. After I, after I got 527 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: Jaywalking take with him, I'd start seeing a different hip 528 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: hop whatever club's out here. And then one time we 529 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: went to a skate ram called Brooklyn Projects on Morrow's 530 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: our friend doms and he was there with his kids, 531 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: and I think Max was like three. It's almost like 532 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: our kids are similar ages. And they were. They were 533 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: both well, Max was so little. They were into skateboarding 534 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: at the same time. And then then we then we 535 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: re then we rehooked up. No Bruno, No Bruno, but Bruno, 536 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: because don't you have a true romance tattoo on you? 537 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: We've got three of them. I tried to get this guy. 538 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: He's got every single Hold the fun On, hold on 539 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: every film, Dan Smith, get Hold on, Hold On, Hold on, 540 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: Hold on hold on. This guy's got every movie, every 541 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: friend every every every every song he's ever heard, every 542 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: kind of food, he's every every sneaker everything. I said 543 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: that the real event for this live, true romance thing. 544 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: What did we get, Like, Dick Ritchie on your ass cheek. 545 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: You wouldn't do that for me, though, I told my wife, 546 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: will keep my ass clean. Man. Some there's dicks Max. 547 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: Thanks Max, Max. I'm sorry about that, but something stays sacred. 548 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: But there's there's people that you don't even speak to 549 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: anymore that you have their names, and I can't get 550 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: any love. Dick Ritchie can't get no damn love. It'd 551 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: be kind of weird. I'm gonna portrait Mike or just 552 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: get or you can get right here my Dick, rich 553 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: get Richie Friens, get Richie. However, Richie this tattooed on 554 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: my dad. That's good too. Sorry man. Anyway, So after that, 555 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: I took him to his first punk show. He's a 556 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: straight hip hop. First I took him to the Bad 557 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: Brains at the House of Blues. He was like, yeah, 558 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: she for the Bad Brains. He was like what the fuck? 559 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: And people were diving off the stage and mash he 560 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: was bugging out, like you're bugging out listen. I'm gonna 561 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: say this publicly because Toby's always and I think the 562 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: whole age who old band is in the house, most 563 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: of the bands in the house. Yes, that kind of 564 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: violent reaction to the music makes me uncomfortable. I feel 565 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: like like I'm from New York City when people start yeah, 566 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: but that's holding me, motherfucker, not the part of New 567 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: York City that I'm from. I hear you, I hear you. 568 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: I love it. I love the culture, and I get 569 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: all that. I respect that I've been exposed to it. 570 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: But the people in there and the banging and then 571 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: and then then the loud, and it's like a zoo 572 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: house in there. If I could read the text message 573 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: that he was sent me two weeks ago when we 574 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 1: played the play dam, I said, you want to come 575 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: to show? He said, nam, And I don't funk with that. 576 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't suck punk rock. I just funk with you. 577 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't that music. It was perfect anyway. So that's 578 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: that's the answer. Toby is he told me he is 579 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: one of the most literally he talks about that p 580 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: M A ship, it's it's a hundred and fifty percent. 581 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: Is one of the most positive, solid honest, trustworthy people 582 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: who I know. Thank you, but don't ask me to 583 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: come to another fucking show. God Jesus Christ. He always 584 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: tells me I'm not to gretch. My real name is 585 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: really Michael. What's up? What's your question, darling? Hello? So 586 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: my question is I'd love to know what both of 587 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: you think about the film's ending, because, if my memory 588 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: serves me correctly, based on Tarantino's commentary, he had kind 589 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: of a different plan. Yeah, the clearance. So I'd love 590 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: to hear from Well, I can tell you one scene. Well, 591 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't know what the original ending was, 592 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: but I know there was one scene, the scene that 593 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: I auditioned to get the movie for we never shot. 594 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: We ran out of time at that hotel. What's the 595 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: name of that hotel, The Ambassador Hotel um which is 596 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: knocked down now right, which is where Robert Robert Kennedy 597 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: was shot in that hotel. And there was a scene 598 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: where I run out of the room which you see, 599 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: and I run into that gangster and and and he's 600 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna shoot me, and I beg him for my life 601 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: to go because I I start telling him that I'm 602 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: gonna I got the part on t J. Hooker, Please 603 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: let me go to do t J. Hooker And it's 604 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: so pathetic that he lets me go. And Tony Scott 605 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: came to my trailer and told me were cutting the 606 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 1: scene and I and I and he was like, are 607 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: you okay? I was like, I didn't say anything, but 608 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: inside I was like, what the funk? Man? So some 609 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: people would ask me, like, what happened to you at 610 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: the end of the movie because it's very vague. So 611 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what the original ending was. I can't remember. 612 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm short. Toby Clarence doesn't Clarence dies. He dies in 613 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: the origin. Where then are you in the movie he dies? 614 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they I think they shot two. I 615 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: think they actually shot both endings. Yeah, for sure, because 616 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: I think they shot both endings. Yes, what's going on? Rap? 617 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: How you feeling? My man here? Like your shirt? No, 618 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: it's all right. Fan of I am rap podcast. I 619 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Do you know that the item Rapport podcast worldwide? 620 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: It's a worldwide phenomenon, worldwide phenomenon, Like at first it 621 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: was a joke. It's not a no, it's really it 622 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: really is a worldwide phenomenon. At first, it's been real 623 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: from it was just at first it was just me 624 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: talking in a room by myself, creating the illusion that 625 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: it was a worldwide phenomenon because I thought it was 626 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: the world. No, at the beginning, I'll be honest with you. 627 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: Now that we're actually worldwide, I'll tell you that we weren't. 628 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: I heard it and I was like, Damn, I gotta 629 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: jump on this train because this is world why you know, well, 630 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. The train ain't stopping. Now, what's your question? 631 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,959 Speaker 1: My man? It doesn't have to do with the movie, 632 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, I open it up. We could talk about life. 633 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: I love whatever you want. I'm a big fan of 634 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: the podcast and Zippet Max. You talk a lot of 635 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: ship on the podcast. Yes, so I was wondering, have 636 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: you ever talked so much ship that it costs you 637 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: a role in a movie? Or that's a good question, 638 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: I'll be honest it do you The answer is no, 639 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: with a with a with a big uh dot dot 640 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: dot or yet not yet? Um. You know the podcast 641 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: is is an exaggerated version of myself. Since we started 642 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: doing the podcast, particularly in New York City. When I'm 643 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: in New York, people will approach me by going you 644 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: fuck you. That's how they greet me. And at a 645 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: thirty on a Sunday. That's a little jolting. I love it, 646 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: and I appreciate it, and I embraced it with love. 647 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: But but you know, it's you know, for ships and giggles. 648 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: It's all fun until somebody actually ships and giggles. You 649 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: should let them know. By Yello in person, some people 650 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: do not know what you're talking about. The Ilo impersonation. 651 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 1: One of the one of the things that's become worldwide 652 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: is the Danny Yellow impression. Then know who Danny Yellow is. 653 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: Everybody knows who Danny Yellow is. Peace him. Uh as 654 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: far as I know. Uh, there's not many things that 655 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: that I'm the only person doing, but I think I 656 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: am the only person who does it. Danny Yellow impression. 657 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: You should get one. She's rather fround. She's ready, man, 658 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: she's ready for me. I gotta I'll do it. I 659 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: have to find It has to be specific, it has 660 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: to be organic. It has to be a focused thing. Okay, 661 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: Popa don't preach right, he was in the Popa Don't 662 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: Preach video? Um, can you do it? 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Can 673 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: you please give my girl a God bless you the 674 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: way to give a girl on the New York streets? 675 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Is he here? Oh? Right 676 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: up front. I didn't do I didn't do the math. 677 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know what's going on here. God bless you, 678 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: God bless God, bless you, God bless you. Alright. Audible 679 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: dot com is offering our listeners a free thirty day 680 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: trial membership and a free audiobook. 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I want to let you 700 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: know that I saw your episode on Louis and Dude, 701 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: you stole the show. It's all. It's all in the writing, 702 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: the writing, in the direction. I appreciate that you're welcome. 703 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: And um, so my question here is in this movie 704 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: True Romance, you have an actor like Gary Alman, right 705 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: in every movie he plays in He's like a chameleon. 706 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: You never know he's in the movie. And then you 707 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: have not to like you who is just so authentically 708 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: yourself and you are the best that just always be 709 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: being yourself on screen. And my question to you is 710 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: as an actor, like what do you think got you 711 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: to be able to do that like on screen? I'm 712 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: an actor, so that's my question. I aspire to be 713 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: a person who I can always just be myself and 714 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: not like you know, I don't want to be a 715 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: character actor, you know what I mean. I want to 716 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: be no. I think I think that, um, you know, 717 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: I think that for me, you know, there's a there's 718 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: always a version of of yourself in the characters. It's 719 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: like you know, like if if if you spend if 720 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: you spend enough time around you know, Robert de Niro, 721 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna make that Robert de Niro face, you know. 722 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: And and but for for me, I'll just speak for myself, 723 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, like I've my my main goal and my 724 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: main agenda as an actor has always my personal goal 725 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: is to always be as tangible and as honest as possible, 726 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: no matter what good movie, bad movie, good TV, bad TV. 727 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: I've done all of them, and and and but the 728 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: most important thing is, you know, there's so many great 729 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: actors who are can morph into the characters and and 730 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: and it's it's about opportunities. It's about um talent, it's 731 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: about um. The way looks have a lot to do 732 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: with it. Certain people have a look that just sort 733 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: of you know, can can blend into different things. Um. 734 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: But for me, my my agenda, you know, when I'm 735 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: acting is to be as honest as possible. And then 736 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: if you could color it with a character or an 737 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: accent or a piece of clothing, that stuff is so fantastic, 738 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, and you you do, you do what the 739 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: job requires. You know. I'm just I'm lucky dude, and 740 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: I enjoy having the opportunities that I have. You have 741 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: two Christians. Your first movie was and you've been doing 742 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: movies ever since? Was it ninety one or nine? Yeah, 743 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: zebra Head, I was, I was twenty one, even actor 744 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: of a since ninety one, acting well, yeah, I was, Yeah, 745 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: only acting since ninety one. Nothing else I've never had 746 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: another job, That's what I mean. It's amazing. Well I 747 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: was a stand up comic. Okay, that's a job. But 748 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: but but but not a high level one. That's an 749 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: amazing career. Though. I be fortunate. You know, I tell 750 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: my kids, I go, I don't know, you're looking at 751 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 1: me like, you know, this is like I got a 752 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: lightning struck. I was lucky, you know what I mean. 753 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: So I was lucky, and I and I know that 754 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: for sure. You got kicked out of schools and you 755 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: were a wild kids. You're trying to blow me up here. 756 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. Everybody knows, they heard the podcast. 757 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: They know you're a while and out. Yeah yeah, yeah, 758 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: but but but yeah I was. I was preparing for 759 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: for my great part in the third grade. Okay, we're 760 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: all being too extensive. Give us give his audience and 761 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: there people listening. Your top three actors of all time? 762 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: My top three actors of all time? I can name 763 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: one off the jump. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna 764 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: tell you one. I'm gonna exclude Robert din You're okay, 765 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna say. He's a fucking boy. Right. Every time 766 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: I talk Robert I'm so excited because I have a 767 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: documentary that's premiering at the Tribeca Film Festival about my 768 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: friend Julia Lewis. And if you don't know Robert DeNiro, 769 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: that's his film Festivald Loving Woman. So I get to 770 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: see Robert de nirozing and sneak pictures of him for 771 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: two weeks straight. Every year, he says, every year he goes, 772 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: I go watch someone want to punish DeNiro, get and 773 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: I send you the pictures. They're terrific, terrible, invasive pictures. 774 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: You got great. I mean we're not talking about that, 775 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: but it's such Hofman, I'll go to Dustin Hoffman, all right, Um, 776 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: I'll go with I'll do more. I'll do more closer 777 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: to my generation. So forget Dustin, forget there, forget the pillars, 778 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: the Dustin Hoffman's, the Robert Duval's, the de Niro's, the Pacino's, 779 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: forget the pillars, their pillars. So the top of the 780 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: generation and below that, I'll say, Denzel Washington ridiculous, um, 781 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 1: Sean Penn sick, awesome, and John Tataro love him. John 782 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 1: Taturo has been in so many great movies, never never 783 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: been not nominated. For an Oscar, never been nominated for 784 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: an Oscar. Barton Fink, The Jesus and Big Lebowski Quiz Show, 785 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: Miller's crossing. I say, Miller's crossing, Uh, do the right thing. 786 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a big inspiration. And then and then 787 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, but there's so many, you know, 788 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 1: there's so many great great actors, benisil del Toro, There's 789 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: tons of them. What's your question? This has been my 790 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: favorite movie since I saw it twenty some years ago. 791 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: I watched it at least once a year because, like Utopia, 792 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: it's a love story. And um, my favorite part in 793 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 1: the movie is when Clarence asked Alabama if she wants 794 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 1: to see the comic and she can't even speak. She's 795 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: already in love with him. I'm wondering, what is your 796 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: favorite part of the movie, if you can pick apart, 797 00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: it's like asking your favorite a um, favorite part of 798 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: the movie. For me, I'd probably say, I mean, I 799 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: have to say that the Dennis Hopper Christopher Walkin's scene 800 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: is it's it's literally like it's it's like a ballet. 801 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: It's perfection. It's perfectly shot, it was perfectly written, and 802 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: it was perfectly acted the tension to humor. Still to 803 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 1: this day, watching it um with an audience, you don't 804 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: know whether to laugh not to let You don't know 805 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: what's going on. And I think that's exciting for the 806 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: people I first saw it because that reaction that we 807 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: had it in here tonight. It has been the same 808 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 1: reaction every time I've seen the film. You don't know 809 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: what to do, And I think that's the beauty of 810 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: Quentin Tarantino. He does these turns and stuff like that, 811 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: So that would probably my favorite thing. I also think 812 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 1: there was such a sweetness and loveability and a vulnerability. 813 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: And there's a tone to Patricia Arkhead's voice that I think, men, 814 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,919 Speaker 1: it makes you melt. There's like every time I see 815 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 1: this movie, I mean that face and her voice and 816 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: her lap. Yeah, it's really sweet. Teeth, yeah, yeah. Two 817 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: things my brother whispered to me early is like from 818 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: that movie on, I always love girls with that kind 819 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: of teeth. And also me and my wife talked about 820 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: it that liked you you should ask your wife to 821 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: get her teeth fixed, but no, she my wife that style. No, 822 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: my wife's perfect, but we always talk about if you 823 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: give her a little snaggle, if you if you could, 824 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: if you could be with if you could be with 825 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: like somebody. We married twenty years this year, but if 826 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: you could be with somebody, we both say for True 827 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: Sharkutte from True Roman's that's like the hottest fucking role. 828 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: But in the movie, because you know, that's not really her. 829 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: What's not her life, bucker. I'm saying in the movie 830 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: she was perfectly sexy for luxious, her teeth, everything about it, 831 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: but she never played it like that. After that, It's 832 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,800 Speaker 1: interesting All Lost Highway was pretty sick, No, but she 833 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 1: she never played I mean, I guess this is you know, 834 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: this is her path as and actress like she she 835 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: never repeated that that role, and I think that that's 836 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 1: why it's so um it's very special. She didn't play 837 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: that out. She did it, and then you know, went 838 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 1: on to do other things and then you know, boom. 839 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: Last year she won the Oscar. Are there doctors that 840 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: could actually could suck my wife's teeth up like that? 841 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: Or yeah, you could do anything these days? Should talk 842 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: about it. The teeth. It is like one sex liquor tooth. 843 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: That's not funny, it's actually been I like that Max 844 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: I like that and I love whoever is that laugh 845 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: over there. I'm gonna start playing to you because I 846 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 1: feel like you're in tune with me and you're making 847 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: me feel like this is all worthwhile. It sounds like 848 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: she's still there, went else. Thank you, Thank you for 849 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: doing this tonight. No, it's my play. Thanks for coming. 850 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: Thank you. It was my first time watching the film. 851 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,720 Speaker 1: It was a really good movie. Um, but this doesn't 852 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: have anything to do with the movie. My question. I 853 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: saw your documentary on Tribe, yes really end watched it 854 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: last week and it was really good, and I just 855 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you how it felt, because I know 856 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: you're a huge fan and you appreciate hip hop. How 857 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: did it feel to interview so many like legends. There 858 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: was just so many people that I was just so amazing. 859 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: I was just so fascinated with the fact that you 860 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, went to that crazy like extreme to interview 861 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 1: all these people that it was just I mean, I 862 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: was just like, Wow, that's crazy that they were all 863 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: in this one big film. So I just want to 864 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: know how it felt for you. It was it was 865 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: a joy first of all, uh, the the great, important, 866 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: lovable passing of the great five Dog. UM a tremendous loss. 867 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think you know, uh will ever 868 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: really be able to place how important this guy was 869 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: and one of the most important groups ever have of 870 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: any genre music. You know, God bless uh anybody in 871 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: any It would be like in hip hop terms. And 872 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't wish this on anybody because I don't think 873 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: he's ever gonna pass, but it would be like if 874 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: Keith Richards passed. You know. The tribe called Quest is 875 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: as important as any group of the last fifty years 876 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: of any genre. And and and it's it's it's sad, 877 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:33,280 Speaker 1: sad thing. And it was a great, sweet, lovable um person. 878 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 1: And the Fife character that he that he was in 879 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: a tribe called Quest is one of the most lovable 880 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: characters in hip hop history. Everybody loves Fife. Everybody loves Fife. 881 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: So to make that movie was a privilege, it was 882 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: an honor. It was challenging. UM. I'm so glad that 883 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 1: we were able to do it, especially knowing what we 884 00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 1: know today. UM, it's one of my favorite group and UM, 885 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, I hope to make more and I'm just 886 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: glad that I had the opportunity to do it, and 887 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: it was it was it was a group of us 888 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 1: that that were able to get it done. And I'm 889 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: just I'm just so proud that we were able to 890 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: get it done, especially because because he passed. Because that 891 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: that film, you know, it doesn't um articulate the entire 892 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: Tripical Quest story by any means, but at least it's 893 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: a tangible thing for the fans and the future fans 894 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: to listen to. And and you know, all the tributes 895 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: that have been on television for for for Tribe, you know, 896 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: it's been so great. And there's not many groups in 897 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: hip hop that could have, uh, traffic people say their 898 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 1: lines during the traffic report because the language sometimes can 899 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 1: get crazy. Trip called Quest is literally for everybody, so well, 900 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: thank you. Another thing that people might not know is 901 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: in New York they call him White Mike and Mike 902 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,439 Speaker 1: mikel rapper for it's one of the most respected people 903 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: in hip hop and in the whole world, the whole 904 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: planet for real. I just want to say that people 905 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,919 Speaker 1: love you in hip hop. White Mike, White Mike hanging 906 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 1: out Brownsville. Yes, yes, what's your question? She got notes? 907 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,320 Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, where does that say you fuck you? 908 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,399 Speaker 1: Your motherfuck are you? This is the kind of love 909 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,760 Speaker 1: notes I get. I love it. I'm a big listener 910 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: to that. I appreciate that. Thank you for following me 911 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter. I'm ad Retina. Yes, yes, I see you 912 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: on I saw you put posted that on there. I 913 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: love it. It's a term of endearment. Yeah, I'm a 914 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: mother too. And you wait, your mother likes it too. 915 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm you're a mother to me. Yeah. In My favorite 916 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,280 Speaker 1: story from your podcast is the nickname for the street stretcher. 917 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: Is that what your child calls you? When I was 918 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: wondering if you could explain the whole story behind wait, wait, 919 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 1: wait the street My son does the same thing, right, Yes, well, 920 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 1: and we should do it here because you know that, Toby, 921 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: how I like to stretch any place, anytime. And and 922 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: and when I see something like when I like see 923 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: something like see I I look at things with the 924 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,399 Speaker 1: heights like if there's like if there's then I'll look 925 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: at it because I want to put my leg on 926 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: top of it and stretch. Listen, I'm very flexible, okay. 927 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: And and and when I grew up playing sports, you 928 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 1: know you had the guy who could shoot the best, 929 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 1: the guy who could jump the highest. I was the 930 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 1: guy who could stretch the best, didn't help the team win. 931 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, Max the fuck I'm talking about. 932 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,240 Speaker 1: So uh, that's where I got the nickname the street 933 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 1: Stretcher because my kids would be mortified. Just just this week, 934 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 1: I was in in in the city with my son 935 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: and and on sixth Avenue and fifty one Street. I 936 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: had to sit down, you know, like this, and and 937 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: he was like, what are you doing. I gotta stretch, 938 00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, my my lady. And he said, well, you 939 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 1: look like you're taking a ship. I said, I'm that 940 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: taking a ship. I'm just we've been walking. You know. 941 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: It all has to do with Judaism and being Jewish 942 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: and bad feet. It all goes to that and being 943 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: a Pisces. Because the Pisces, I don't know if there's 944 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: any other pisces. We have feet problems. Do you stretch 945 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 1: in l a too, or just New York any place? 946 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: Any time? Any place you're making any New York Jews 947 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: something like, they have a lot of problems we do 948 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: on airplanes. Watch them, look at them, watch them any 949 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: look at them. Speaking for all, I feel like I 950 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: gets there's no one arguing with me. Is it true 951 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: that Jewish people have different arches? That's why the most 952 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 1: Jewish old man wear New Balance. If you look at that, 953 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: I don't know why they don't just name the gray 954 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: New Balance. They should just call it the fucking Larry David. 955 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: Just give it a name or or jew Balance to balance. Yes, 956 00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:02,280 Speaker 1: super click for that. Where's Tim's Tim arm Strong? Starford 957 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: Ransid in the house somewhere he's here. If you like 958 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: rans it makes some noise. All right, we'll take a 959 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: couple more questions and we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna 960 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: shut it down. We're gonna put on some music. I 961 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 1: really want to know, and maybe everybody else wants to know. 962 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: Your relationship now with most of the cast members. It's 963 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 1: a good question. That's a good question, great question, you know. 964 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: To be honest, I mean, I'm cool, uh with all 965 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 1: of them. You know, I told you, you know I'm 966 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: still friendly with uh Mr Pitt. Cant me call him 967 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: on the phone now, live here, Pratt Pitt? All right, 968 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Paul, Paul, Ben Victor, 969 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 1: uh Ton tons of stuff. Um, I'm cool with all 970 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 1: of them. You know, actors are like, um, they're like 971 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: they're like circus performers. It's it's hard to uh, you know, 972 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 1: stay in touch all the time because you know, we 973 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,320 Speaker 1: shoot here, you shoot there, you shoot there. But you know, 974 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: I know that movie was all love and I feel 975 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,439 Speaker 1: like I'm sure anybody who's in that movie gets gets 976 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: asked about it. You know, it stood out. Um, so, 977 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean there was nobody in there that I didn't like. 978 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 1: I told you a lot of those people I met 979 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: for the first time, Sam and uh, you know, and 980 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: and of course Gandel Fini, um and and uh you know, 981 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: all of them. I mean, it was just it was 982 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: just a special time. And uh, Christopher Walking, you know, 983 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: obviously you know I don't see him all the time, 984 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: but he's somebody that, uh, you know, is so much 985 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 1: different in real life than you would think. People think 986 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: he's like this vampire, weirdo freak. He's like one of 987 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,880 Speaker 1: the most He's got such a great personality. He's like 988 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: a New York, straight up New York dude, so professional, 989 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 1: totally prepared, the first guy on the set, knows all 990 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: his lines. He just has an eccentricity about the way 991 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 1: he he's acting. Style. But in real life, that dude. 992 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: You can make that guy laugh. He'll laugh like a kid. 993 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: I love that guy. So he is the most impersonated 994 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: probably actor I think about people in personally. Everybody does 995 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 1: a Christopher walking? Do you want to do yours tonight? 996 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 1: You have one? I don't have a good one. Yeah, 997 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: I think it has one. I think he has one. 998 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 1: You could do something. I don't have a good one. 999 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 1: How about how abou Christopher walking as a yello? I 1000 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 1: I busted my blood. I gave myself a headache doing 1001 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: that yellow It was just a short yello. That's why 1002 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,439 Speaker 1: I wish I could live my life in a yell. 1003 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 1: Oh but I can't. It like hurt, the back of 1004 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: my head might die. Um My, man, Danny, you know 1005 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 1: what I'm like. I got a question by a deep 1006 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 1: blue Um. Is there any actor that you haven't worked 1007 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: on we're worked with that you love to work with? 1008 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: Is there an actor that I mean, there's so many 1009 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: actors that I haven't worked with. Most of a lot 1010 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: I never worked with Denzel a lot, a lot a 1011 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: lot of my Big three. Uh my, at the pleasure 1012 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: of working with you know, idols Um, de Niro and 1013 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: Stallone and John Shavolta, and those were like probably the 1014 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: guys who I I I looked up to first. I 1015 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: didn't even look up to them. I wanted to be 1016 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: the characters that they portrayed. Um, there's so many talented people, 1017 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 1: um directors, actors, and and there's so much more to do. 1018 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: Christian Bale, Christian Bale, he's great. Leo is always a keeper. 1019 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: He's on a Yeah, he's on a different level. Yeah, 1020 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 1: I did, I did, I did. I I I actually 1021 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: met you know what. I met Leonardo DiCaprio at the 1022 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: premiere of True Romance. That's awesome, and we we were like, 1023 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: I had just seen Gilbert No, not Gilbert Grape. I've 1024 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: seen him This Boy's Life. It's a hard movie, de 1025 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 1: Niro movie. I met him at that at that premiere. 1026 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: I remember, I remember that. I remember that. Uh. And 1027 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: I also met Sean Penn at that premiere and I 1028 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 1: told I went over to tell him how much I 1029 00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: loved it. He was looking at me like I was 1030 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 1: fucking nuts. I don't know what I was. This is 1031 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: when you whatever anyway, before Instagram and Twitter, there's one 1032 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: thing and you did in this movie, which is just 1033 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: like stuck in my brain, like fucking nails. When you're 1034 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: driving through l A for the first time with them, 1035 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: you like, Okay, I get to meet William Shatner and 1036 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: you cross your fingers and you kiss your fingers, like 1037 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: Hope Hope. I was like, I where the fuck? You know? 1038 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 1: I think that was just I'm pretty sure Hope Hope 1039 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: was written in the script. You know, I was. I 1040 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: was so um naive at the time, like and I'm 1041 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying this because I was naive. There was a 1042 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: lot of things that were added, the banter between me 1043 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: and Floyd and all that stuff, because uh, you know, 1044 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: you have aspirations of being the next Robert de Niro 1045 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 1: and you know Marlon Brando and you don't know your lines, 1046 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: but you do know your lines and your riffing and 1047 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But I think that I'm pretty sure 1048 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: that Hope Hope was written into the script. But just 1049 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: the cross of the fingers and the kiss, it was 1050 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: like that's something I was like, I'll take credit for 1051 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: the cross of the fingers, but the line was was 1052 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 1: was Quinn Tarantino And that's really cool what you said 1053 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: about Tony. I think that was like he was the 1054 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: best he was. He was like a great leader. If 1055 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: you notice, every single Tony Scott film is filled with smoke, 1056 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 1: like if he likes this room, like this room, but 1057 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: like so he would fill it with smoke and be 1058 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: like more smoke, more smoke. I'm not straight as no 1059 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: more going to contact. But hey, so we're gonna tell 1060 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: you one thing before you cut you off. You were 1061 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 1: saying you a naive as an actor in real life, 1062 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 1: but your character in the movie is very naive, and 1063 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna come off really weird because because we have 1064 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: a we have a true romance, me and you and 1065 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: you guys who agree your innocence in the movie and 1066 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 1: the way it's very very cute in the movie. Thank you. 1067 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: And I think that if anybody agree he's cute in 1068 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: the movie, I'm not too sure if a cute in 1069 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 1: the movies. After that life and that movie, your innocence 1070 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: shined as an actor and as your roll I thank you, 1071 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: thank you. I mean I was really like um elated 1072 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: every single day to show up on that set. I 1073 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: was I was that was where I was at it. 1074 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: I was like I was happy to have gotten the 1075 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 1: part in the movie. And and you know, and it 1076 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: was just coincided with playing a character like that. And 1077 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 1: that is it true that the ship stand on the 1078 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: back of your over shirt was real? I can't tell 1079 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 1: you everything, Okay, Okay, Okay, I know too much. Okay, 1080 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 1: in may, I'm not gonna say the ship staying on 1081 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: the back of my shirt was real, but I'm not 1082 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 1: gonna say it wasn't real. Okay, Okay, that's yeah, yeah, yeah, 1083 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 1: we this we're gonna do. We're gonna wrap it up. 1084 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna wrap it up. I sincerely, from the bottom 1085 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 1: of my heart, I'm so glad that you guys came out. 1086 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: I hope you had a good time. You know, we're 1087 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 1: gonna play music, We're gonna you know, there's still food, 1088 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 1: there's still drinks, and we're hanging out, so we'll be 1089 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 1: here to take selfie's. Thank you guys so much for coming. 1090 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate all right. The I n Wrapper Ports podcast 1091 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: is sponsored by Casper Mattresses, an award winning mattress company 1092 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: that makes the most ridiculously relaxing, supportive mattresses sold directly 1093 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 1: to the consumers, sleek new design beds that are delivered 1094 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 1: directly to your doorstep in a small box. 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