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Speaker 1: Warning today's episode today's spoilers for gen V season two,

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Speaker 1: Hades two, and the new Paul Thomas Anderson movie One

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Speaker 1: Battle Left or Another. You warn't Hello, It was Jason Concepcion

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Speaker 1: and I'm Rady Night and welcome to x RGC, our

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Speaker 1: weekly roundtable with our producers or special guests talk about

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Speaker 1: all the things that we are watching and excited about

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: In today's episode, we are going to start with the

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Speaker 2: gen B mid season check in the discord has been

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Speaker 2: watching it, We have been watching it, and we have thoughts.

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Speaker 3: We'll do a brief recap, and then we will talk

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Speaker 3: about where the show is going to go in the

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Speaker 3: second half of the season.

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Speaker 2: We will also invite super producer Common and super produce

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Speaker 2: our on to have a Hades two conversation as those

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Speaker 2: who have been playing it and they've got thoughts. And

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Speaker 2: Segment three, well, it's me interviewing Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio

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Speaker 2: del Toro from Who One Battle after another and we

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Speaker 2: get into some that's a very dad core movie, so

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Speaker 2: I went for some dad core questions and then thank

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Speaker 2: Galactus's Friday, We're going to share the most.

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Speaker 3: The things we're most excited about this weekend.

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Speaker 1: But first gen v Rosie take us through it.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so episode four we left off with episode three,

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Speaker 2: and the end of episode three was that Jordan and

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Speaker 2: Marie were going to have to fight in front of

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Speaker 3: Named gender bender versus the blood Bender. We're starting to

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Speaker 2: They're running the school like it's a UFC match and

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Speaker 2: they only have one option, fight or go back to Elmira,

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Speaker 2: the torture camp that they spent a year in. Cipher

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Speaker 2: is training Marie and reveals to her that the university

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Speaker 2: godolkin You was literally started just to create the most

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Speaker 2: powerful superhero via the Odessa project, So Marie is really

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Speaker 2: there and could become the next Homelander in Cipher's mind.

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Speaker 2: Marie realizes, thanks to her new blood bending skills that

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Speaker 2: he's taught her, that Cipher doesn't have any compound V

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Speaker 2: in his blood, making them think that he is a human.

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Speaker 2: So they break into his office. They find out that

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Speaker 2: in a hyperbaric chamber. I believe the resounding theory right

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Speaker 2: now is that maybe Thomas Godoalkin aka Ethan, Tommy aka

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Speaker 2: Tommy G.

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Speaker 3: Tommy G. You know Bock Woodsman.

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Speaker 2: We think that may be him another unexpected Kate team

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Speaker 2: up because they realize, like, oh, we really can't take

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Speaker 2: push this guy. Every time I get near to him,

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Speaker 2: something happens. We saw him try and blend her hand,

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Speaker 2: but you know what, She's gonna give it a go.

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Speaker 2: Emma brings in her new friends, Harper and Ali, who

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Speaker 2: have very funny powers. We've got Ali who has the

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Speaker 3: It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Christina walked in while I was watching the Plassan where

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Speaker 1: she what the fuck?

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Speaker 2: No, truly, it is an ultimate what the fuck is

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Speaker 3: We learn that Cyprus does have powers.

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Speaker 2: And his powers and he can literally project into someone's

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Speaker 2: The episode ends with the God You crowd screaming Marie's

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Speaker 3: Episode five bomb.

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Speaker 2: Due to her betrayal and you know, reconnection with her

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Speaker 3: Huge reveal that And.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of interesting because I believe we were

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Speaker 2: I saw a lot of people wanting to know what

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Speaker 1: Yes, because we see that like war angling to take

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Speaker 2: Something bad happened to her, so they've got there's a

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Speaker 2: times these guys risk themselves for Kate. They decided it's

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Speaker 3: I need to go home.

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Speaker 2: Sam heads home, terrifies his parents, and in what I

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Speaker 2: think is one of the most interesting threads going through

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Speaker 2: this season, we learn just as we learn.

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Speaker 3: We loarn this with Marie, we've learned it with Jordan.

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Speaker 3: We we learned that.

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Speaker 2: Sam already had genetic mental health issue because of his family.

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Speaker 3: So there's an interesting thread going on this.

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Speaker 2: Season of We thought the reason that these people were

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Speaker 2: and they are in a crazy situation. Speaking of crazy situations, Polarity,

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Speaker 3: Cipher basically like shows.

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Speaker 2: Off to him and says, yeah, doever you want, man,

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Speaker 2: So Elmira, the kids planned to save Kate and guess

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Speaker 2: This was a choice where when I first watched this episode,

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Speaker 3: He has actually kidnapped Marie's estrange.

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Speaker 2: So they escape, they'reabout to go and get her sister,

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Speaker 2: You've been watching gen Z you will know why this happened,

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Speaker 2: They did it with Kate, they did it with another

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Speaker 2: And yeah, that's the end of season to episode five

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Speaker 2: of gen V Jason, what are your feelings now?

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Speaker 3: We are halfway through this season.

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Speaker 1: This show is good. I here are my kind of

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Speaker 3: I scream and every single time, just send her back.

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Speaker 1: She's not send her back. She's so much wrong and

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Speaker 3: It absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 1: This two, I was shocked at how clean shaven Cipher's ass,

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Speaker 3: Dude, I I I.

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Speaker 1: It left me. It's kind of like, do you know,

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Speaker 1: like the broken windows theory, Like the broken windows the

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Speaker 2: All of me, I hit a lot as a neighborhood

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Speaker 3: Jason, so yes, I do know about it.

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Speaker 1: His ass, balls and taint remind me of the broken

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Speaker 1: windows theory and that it seems like the message I'm

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Speaker 1: Too much activity for a guy who's like running a school.

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Speaker 2: I know it was he up to like him in stage,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so not even any stubble I was shocked.

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: This is actually very This is very thematically in line

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Speaker 2: night called Bone Lake, and we will have an interview

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Speaker 3: It's a horror movie.

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Speaker 2: The movie has within its first five minutes a full

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Speaker 3: I was like, and and an arrow goes right through.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, Like incredible opening for a movie.

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Speaker 3: But I had the same thought when I was watching this.

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Speaker 1: Keeping it, keeping it. So it left me thinking, one,

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Speaker 3: Great news happened in this season? You've watched you maybe

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Speaker 3: Jenpi is not there, But you know what, I love

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Speaker 1: I think his plan. I think his plan is to

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Speaker 1: for this segment Super produces Carmen and Aaron. You can

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Speaker 4: Carmen, I'm today to do a quick little breakdown of

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Speaker 5: But yeah, the my favorite things so far have been

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Speaker 4: kind of been known for always wanting to pursue something

441
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 4: new and stretch themselves, and they basically said, like, we've

442
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 4: never done a sequel, so we are stretching ourselves by

443
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: trying to successfully do a sequel to a game. And frankly,

444
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 4: I think they did an incredible job and I would

445
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: play Haites three. I also would be thrilled to play

446
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 4: whatever the next game is that they develop, whether it

447
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 4: be closer to a Pie or Bastion or or Transistor whatever,

448
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: I'm thrilled to play any of them. But when you

449
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 4: compare this to Haiti, what When I look at sequels,

450
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 4: I like to think what's the same, what's different, what's better,

451
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 4: what's worse? So what do you think for Haities two

452
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 4: compared to Hades one? Same, different, better, worse?

453
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 5: So I would say, of course, the game loop is

454
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 5: very similar, very same. I will say the bosses, they've

455
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 5: done a great job of changing up the even though

456
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 5: a lot of the I will say the enemies and

457
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 5: the bosses, they've added some variation to them that has

458
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 5: I feel like, made you use your different abilities. You're

459
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 5: casting your specials and your attack in more strategic ways.

460
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 5: I know that something that you and I had talked

461
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 5: about early on was that you weren't using your cast

462
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 5: at all. And I personally rely on a build that

463
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 5: is kind of heavy on the cast because I find

464
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 5: it's important for me to be able to pick off

465
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 5: like big groups of enemies while I find the larger,

466
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: big bad enemies on the stage. And so I love

467
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 5: for me that there's so many different ways that people

468
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 5: can approach playing a game like this, and approach the

469
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 5: different way to build stuff. So the other stuff I

470
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 5: would say that is also I would say for me

471
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 5: better wise, I love I love the asthetic more. They

472
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 5: improved that a lot more, and I feel like they

473
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 5: improved the unlockables. I don't remember Haiti's having this much unlockable,

474
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 5: this many unlockable abilities. I might be wrong, it's been

475
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 5: a few years since I've played the game. It's been

476
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 5: about as long as you've played the games for me.

477
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 5: But I feel like this is what I love about

478
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 5: certain certain styles of games where there's a lot of unlockables.

479
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 5: It's very fun for me to keep going and continue

480
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 5: to unlock and get stronger as I go.

481
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: And they did that really well with the Arcanic cards. Yes,

482
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 4: and include increasing your grasp and.

483
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 5: All the bones of your hand in your arm. That

484
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 5: is so.

485
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 4: Cool and graphically very cool every time you see her

486
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: and you see that arm. But like you can do

487
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 4: have very different builds before you even start the run,

488
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: just based off what cards you are using.

489
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: Yes, because you can't use them all, so you do

490
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 5: have to choose you know which direction you want to go.

491
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 5: And same with like in the in the Haites when

492
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 5: you had your pendance I think they're called or I believe.

493
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 6: But.

494
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 5: You still have those, but you have like these Arcanic

495
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 5: cards on top of that, which gives you, I think,

496
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 5: a lot more variety with your build.

497
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you are listening and you have not

498
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 4: unlocked all of them, a good like beginner tip, if

499
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: you find one that you like, continue going in that direction.

500
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: Ycah the cards, the four corners all sort of are

501
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: based around a certain game and play mechanic. So one

502
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 4: of them is rerolling, one of them is magic, you know,

503
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 4: and you can build around one of them as like

504
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: duo boons and stuff. So that is a good way

505
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: if you know you like something, follow that to start

506
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: when you're unlocking stuff.

507
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 5: Can I mention something else that I think is better

508
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 5: that I think that they've done here. It's sort of

509
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 5: in the way that comparing Breath of the Wild to

510
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 5: Tears of the Kingdom, I didn't think, but I didn't

511
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 5: think that they could make it deeper. I didn't think

512
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 5: that they could add more to it. They have added

513
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 5: this whole like surface layer, and I just I this morning, Yeah,

514
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 5: they went higher, they went higher, So I, uh, this morning.

515
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 5: You know, I was late to this call because I

516
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 5: was playing a lot this morning and I had just

517
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 5: unlocked the incantation that allowed me to explore the surface

518
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 5: level without being I guess they called it like chronic

519
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 5: uh orm or whatever, the thing that hurts you. Yes,

520
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 5: it just hurts you while you're on the surface. So

521
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 5: I finally got rid of that, and now I was

522
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 5: able to go through an entire run on the surface

523
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 5: and spoiler alert for anyone who hasn't gotten there yet

524
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 5: to the surface, but you defeat the Cyclops, who is

525
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 5: like a shepherd, a herder of sheep, and so that

526
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 5: I really great.

527
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: All the characters have great voice acting. The Cyclops's voice actor,

528
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 4: I think well.

529
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 5: And the thing is, if you've never played a game

530
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 5: like this, if you've never played a game where it's

531
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 5: very repetitive and you have to go through multiple loops

532
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 5: of the game, there has to be something that makes

533
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 5: it rewarding for you to continue to do so. And

534
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 5: the way that they do that is by of course

535
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 5: I mentioned the unlockables, but you're also unlocking new like dialogue, yes,

536
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 5: with each character and learning more about each character. And

537
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 5: as you learn about each character, you can either like

538
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 5: get a complete I don't know if you're for any

539
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 5: of the one hundred out there, you get a complete

540
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 5: feel yeah, in your in your in your book, or

541
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 5: if you have more to learn about them, it'll also

542
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 5: tell you that in your book. So it's very interesting.

543
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 5: You know, give as many gifts as you can to

544
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 5: the different gods, because not only will they give you

545
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: more benefits for that, they will also you know, you'll

546
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 5: get to know them better and unlock more lore.

547
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so sort of along those lines that that gameplay

548
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: loop I think is very similar to Haiti's one. And

549
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: one of the things in addition to the gameplay loop

550
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: that I think does really well is that the game

551
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: does a great job of you get better as you

552
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: play it, and the game makes you stronger, so you're

553
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: concurrently growing yourself as well as the game is powering

554
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 4: you up. So your first run, you may not even

555
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: make it to the first boss of the first world,

556
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: but you'll get a little better and you'll get a

557
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 4: little stronger, and you now have a death defiance okay,

558
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: so you can use that and that gets you a

559
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 4: little further along, and then you get a new weapon

560
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 4: and then you know. So every single run does feels

561
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: like it has some purpose, even if you don't get

562
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 4: very far. And there have been many times that I've

563
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 4: done a run where I'm like, I'm just not but

564
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: this is a weird build. I don't like what I'm doing.

565
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: I'm not going to make it as far as I

566
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: usually do, and that's totally fine. But you're collecting, collecting everything. Yet,

567
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 4: what I would say the major difference I think is

568
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 4: like you're saying, this is very which focused, and so

569
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: there's this bigger focus on magic. You have Manna that

570
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: you use, which is used in multiple ways through the cast,

571
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: which we talked about really briefly before, as well as

572
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 4: the Selene's hex.

573
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: From the Moon.

574
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 4: You are encouraged to spend man which I really like,

575
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: and like charging up. You know, every character can or

576
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: every weapon can charge two separate moves as well as

577
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: the cast. I do think better in terms of same, different, better, worse.

578
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: The boons are better. Yeah, the gods are more evenly distributed.

579
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: I definitely think in Haiti's one, there were some gods

580
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: I was like, I just don't I'm not even gonna try,

581
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: Like I don't want any of their boons, And in

582
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 4: this one I am much happier with many.

583
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: Of the boons.

584
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: There are some that I would prefer still, and I

585
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: will always veer that way, and like we'll use their

586
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: keepsake to start a run so that I start with

587
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: them in my pool. But I think in general they're

588
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: evened out a lot more.

589
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 5: I thought about it this morning, and the only one

590
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 5: who I am like, I don't really want any of

591
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 5: his boons I don't know about you, but it's Poseidon. Oh.

592
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: I love Poseidon. I love Poseidon. Yeah, it's depending on

593
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 4: the build, Like if it's a fast attack, I like

594
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: having Poseidon's boon to push creatures away. I also like

595
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 4: it on the dash so that you can like dash

596
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 4: around and then run into something. So I like Poseidon

597
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: a lot.

598
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 5: Okay, you know what, I'll give Poseidon another chance.

599
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: It's particularly good, I think with ranged attacks because then

600
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 4: you're not only hitting them from a distance, you're pushing

601
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 4: them back, so they're just not getting closer to you.

602
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: I have had a lot of fun with Beside, and

603
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: I like him.

604
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 5: All right, I've been I've been sleeping on Poseidon.

605
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, way to be Hypnos over here. And then

606
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: my worst. The one thing I do think so far

607
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: I have felt is a little worse than Hades one

608
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: is the weapon variation, in that I felt like when

609
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: you were when you can customize the weapons a bit more.

610
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: In Hades one, you got like drastically different move sets

611
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 4: for them kind of, and it's not quite that different

612
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: in Hades two. There are things I do really like,

613
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 4: and there are definitely some that I'm like, wow, this

614
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: totally changes how you play it, Like the Skull has

615
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: some variations that completely everything, but there's it's just not

616
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: the same way as I felt it was in Hades one. Yeah,

617
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: but okay, so we've talked a little bit about Oh,

618
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: go ahead, yeah, go ahead.

619
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 5: The addition. I just let one last shout out for

620
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 5: the familiars. I love the addition of the familiars. It's

621
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 5: cute anyway, yea all.

622
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: So, what have been your favorite moments of playing so far?

623
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 5: I think one of like the first moments that I

624
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 5: was really like, oh, this is so cute and I'm

625
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 5: stunned by this game. And I texted the group chat

626
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 5: was the first time you meet a Rackney. I met

627
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 5: a Rackney like on one of my first few runs.

628
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 5: It actually took me a while to meet her. I

629
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 5: think because I was not I was not doing well

630
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 5: in the beginning. And I love her. She's adorable, she's

631
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 5: so cute her. I love her character design, and I

632
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 5: love what she gives you as well. She gives you

633
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 5: these clothing items that give you a shield for and

634
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 5: while you have that shield, you have you know whatever

635
00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 5: ability is gained from whatever clothing item you choose. And

636
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 5: so I a lot of times ended up choosing the

637
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 5: Emerald the Emerald robe because I need the health. But

638
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 5: what about you, Aaron, what's been a favorite moment for you?

639
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: I think it's been my first victory over each of

640
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 4: the bosses. It always feels like a monumentous thing. In particular,

641
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 4: I felt like it took me a while to understand

642
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: what to do against Scilla and the Sirens, Like I

643
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: felt like that boss fight was I was like banging

644
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: my head against the wall.

645
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

646
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: Also love that song so much, so I'm like I

647
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: could really get over. But each time I've beat I

648
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: have defeated a boss, it has been like, oh my,

649
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: So I have beaten Kronos a couple of times, and

650
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 4: that first time I beat him was so exciting and

651
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: like the Hacket as the first boss, I had a

652
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 4: tough time at first because I think I texted you

653
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 4: in a boo. I was like, she just turned me

654
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 4: into a sheep? What is like I was not prepared

655
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: for that.

656
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 5: But I love that.

657
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and so hard to avoid It's and like

658
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 4: sometimes you just get screwed with her bullets after that.

659
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: But oh and then my other favorite thing has been

660
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 4: seeing some familiar favorites from the first game throughout is

661
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,959
Speaker 4: like one of my favorite.

662
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 5: Kind of redesigned too. Yeah. Yeah, and I appreciate that.

663
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 5: My friend was like, why didn't they Just my friend

664
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 5: was talking, why didn't they just keep these designs from

665
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 5: the first movie, And I'm like, well, I don't know.

666
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 5: I think in this one, Ron my head canon at

667
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 5: least was like, well, Chronos, this one's all about the

668
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 5: passage of time, and so as time has passed, how

669
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 5: have these gods looked different?

670
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 4: Yeah? So yeah, okay, so real quick before we go,

671
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: what what have been your favorite builds so far?

672
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: Ah?

673
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think you and I both agree that

674
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 5: we like the Umbrell flame, but I do tend to

675
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 5: go for a cast heavy build and I really like

676
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 5: either Hestia or.

677
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 4: Zeus favorite character designs.

678
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 5: Yes, one of my favorites. Also love her. We mentioned that, like,

679
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 5: we love that not all the gods are like hot

680
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 5: now there some of them are like, you know, of different.

681
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: There's still plenty of hot gods.

682
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 5: Yes, there's plenty of hot gods, but you know, there's

683
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 5: variety as well. But I love a build with Hestia

684
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 5: on the cast or Zeus on the cast. I love

685
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 5: Zeus if I can get Zeus on like my attack

686
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 5: as well as as well as the where the bolts

687
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 5: jump out to the neighboring foes. I mean that is like,

688
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 5: to me, that's an ope build. And then once you

689
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 5: have like either Hermes or Hephestus on some of the

690
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 5: others as well, it's like you're kind of a I

691
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 5: feel like unstoppable at that point.

692
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 4: He Festus, I think, has some things that are just

693
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: so fun to abuse, like the huge ye extra damage

694
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 4: hitting for five hundred. It's a very slow cool down,

695
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: but you can really tailor the build to decrease the

696
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: cool down. You can have things that decrease all of

697
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 4: your cool downs and you can get to a point.

698
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 4: I've seen some people doing a mix with boons where

699
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 4: you you double your cast and then you have the

700
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 4: Hefestus hammer cast and you're doing multiple I mean, it's ridiculous,

701
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: the kind of thing like you can just win using casts. Yeah,

702
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 4: but that's one of my favorite things so far, and

703
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 4: what I have been the most successful with is doing

704
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 4: really focusing on one or two parts, so really focusing

705
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 4: on my attack or really focusing on using Omega casts

706
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 4: to build up Mana to use Selene's sexes and so

707
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 4: like I I will often with especially with Umbrell Flames,

708
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: I will be so attack focused that I never touched the.

709
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 5: Special Special is really useful.

710
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: I never touch it. I'm just holding attack, burn it

711
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 4: out as much magic as I can, and then using

712
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: Selene's X and like the moon blast or the time

713
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: slow or I mean even the one where you like

714
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: jump in the air and fall down like the pounce thing.

715
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 5: Yeah.

716
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: So I've really enjoyed like just hyper focusing something so

717
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: like I am going to do damage this way, and

718
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: that's how I'm gonna do damage, and everything is building.

719
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 4: I got something where it was like do the most

720
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: recent run I did with Umbrell Flames had like do

721
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: three hundred extra damage to any enemies close to you

722
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 4: with the attack. So I would just run into them

723
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: and just hold attack and it was like doing insane

724
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: amounts of damage. Yeah. Okay, So last question, favorite character so.

725
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 5: Far, I've got to say Chaos. I mean, the design

726
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 5: for Chaos in the first game was really cool, but

727
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 5: the design for Chaos in this game is just so incredible.

728
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 4: So many faces, so many eyes.

729
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 5: I love it. Yeah, there's so many face there's like

730
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 5: at least four or five faces. Yeah, and it's just

731
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 5: it's it's like this winged creature that's holding a head

732
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 5: that's dismembered with a spine, and there's a fetus like

733
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 5: coming out of with a with an umbiblical chord coming

734
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 5: out of its mouth representing like life and dead love.

735
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 5: So it's very kind of like I feel like an

736
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 5: HR Geeker inspired design and I really enjoy it.

737
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, take notes Alien Earth. I think my favorite is

738
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 4: probably Echo. I'm really I really intrigued by her. And

739
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: then I also really love free Noos, you know, like

740
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: the familiars are, like you said, are such a great addition.

741
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 4: And I think as soon as I am locked Frenos,

742
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, I love this little guy.

743
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: He's just hopping around like absorbing the couple bullets for

744
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: me every once in a while.

745
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 5: I haven't met Echo yet, I'm like looking up.

746
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 4: So I will say my suggestion, no matter what act

747
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: you're in, anytime, you have the option of doing like

748
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: a meeting. So the icon that's the two hands, no

749
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: matter what act, do it, like unless the other thing

750
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 4: is really perfect for your build, the meeting those other

751
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 4: characters is always really fun. Yeah, it's a safe encounter

752
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: and it offers some great boons and I would say

753
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 4: definitely an Act three and definitely an Act four. Make

754
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 4: sure you go for those meetings.

755
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: Okay, So I really enjoyed too much those characters, and

756
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 5: in each of those kind of safe zones, narcissis also

757
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 5: a great Yes, Yes, I love Narcissis.

758
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 4: Talking to himself in the pool.

759
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he has fans the Shadows, the.

760
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 4: Shades, Yeah, the Shades. All right, Well, I hope that

761
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 4: you know next week when we come back over the weekend,

762
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: you got a lot of time, Carmen. Hopefully you get

763
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: to meet Echo, get a couple of Kronos runs in there.

764
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: We'll see how we're doing on Monday.

765
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, thank you.

766
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: Awesome.

767
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: All right, now we're going to go to when we

768
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: come back, Rosie's interview with Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio del

769
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 4: Toro for one Battle after another.

770
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 6: And okay, so this is a movie that has a

771
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 6: lot about fathers and different kind of fatherhood and stuff. Leo,

772
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 6: I was wondering, like, when you were growing up and

773
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 6: you're moving into movies, was your dad's kind of career

774
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 6: as an underground cartoonist. Was that something that inspired your

775
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 6: creativity or shaped kind of the way that you moved

776
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 6: in the world.

777
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and he continues to do so. My father, you know,

778
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 7: it's kind of the ultimate source of wisdom for me,

779
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 7: and not as not just his uh, his intent eligence

780
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 7: about his perception and his ability to look at a

781
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 7: certain subject matter through different lenses. And you know, I

782
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 7: oftentimes still read scripts with him and ask him him

783
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 7: his thoughts because he's got such a unique perspective. But

784
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 7: you know, he really was a great motivator for me

785
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 7: when I was when I was young an actor, I tried,

786
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 7: I started to try to get, you know, an agent

787
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 7: when I was ten or eleven or twelve years old,

788
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 7: and I remember I was a breakdancer and I had

789
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 7: a messed up haircut and all the agents rejected me.

790
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 7: And that reinforcement of you're going to have your time.

791
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 7: You're going to have your time, and also the guidance

792
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 7: of this is what real filmmaking is, you know, taking

793
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 7: me to see actors and films and saying, this is

794
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 7: what the art form is all about, and those are

795
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 7: great actors, watch this stuff. So I can't say enough

796
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 7: about how much he's influenced would I've done.

797
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 6: I love that Venetia in a movie like this has

798
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 6: a lot of concepts around what's inside the law, what's

799
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 6: outside the law? I was wondering, was there is Do

800
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 6: you look at a movie like this and think about

801
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 6: the fact your parents were lawyers? Like, is that something

802
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 6: that kind of shaped how you look?

803
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

804
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 8: I think so. I think my dad was a criminal lawyer,

805
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 8: my mom as well. I think they were actors in

806
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 8: a way. You have to convince people, you know, you

807
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 8: have to convince people. So yeah, yeah, Plus you know,

808
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 8: you know I had to do a lot of driving,

809
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 8: and you know, my dad had these big boats cars up,

810
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 8: you know, so I would sneak out and take the

811
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 8: car and you better not put a scrash in that car.

812
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 8: So that was like, that was what I was joking

813
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 8: to you. I can park an American big boat, right.

814
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: I was going to say, I've heard that you're very

815
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: good at walking yourself.

816
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 5: I can park the car.

817
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 8: That's my claim to fame. But yeah, because I learned

818
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 8: from you know, my dad was a great driver. My

819
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 8: dad really good parking eighteen wheeler right there. Yeah.

820
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, And just before I leave, thank you again taking

821
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 6: the time. Do you remember the first time you watched

822
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 6: a PTA movie and what it was, or the first

823
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 6: time it really hit you like, oh, this guy is

824
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 6: something really special.

825
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 7: I remember seeing Hard eight mm hmm, but then when

826
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 7: I saw Boogie Knights, I was like, oh boy, this

827
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 7: guy is one of the seminal cinematic voices of his generation.

828
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 7: That world that he created and talking about the underground

829
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 7: of the valley and porn stars at that time was

830
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 7: like revolutionary too. To put that on the big screen

831
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 7: and make these people human.

832
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 8: Sexy, funny, yeah, great acting all across it. Yeah, I

833
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 8: think Boogie Knights, and then for me it was Punch

834
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 8: Trunk Love too because it was like, wow, you know

835
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 8: that's cool too, that's completely different. And then he just

836
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 8: he's done so many different styles. He's really, like, really

837
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 8: quite a filmmaker. I'm very proud to be We're both

838
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 8: very proud to be in this film. But I'm I

839
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 8: can speak for myself as an honor. Really.

840
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a it's a truly fantastic film. Thank you

841
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 6: appreciate it.

842
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for listening. Guys. Those brief junket interviews

843
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: sometimes all.

844
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 5: We can get.

845
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: But it was a fun chat, and you can hear

846
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: us talking more about one battle after another on last

847
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: week's x RGC. So let's wrap up, guys with my

848
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: favorite segment, Thank Galactus.

849
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: It's Friday.

850
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: It's Friday, and once again comment is back to talk

851
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: about Shrek.

852
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 3: She loves Shred.

853
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: No one looks shrink more.

854
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 5: We're going to the.

855
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to this weekend?

856
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 5: Well, I've already so, I've already seen the movie good Boy,

857
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 5: which was I loved it, very cute. Go see that.

858
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 5: It inspired me to spend a lot of money on

859
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 5: my dogs, I think, And so therefore I will be

860
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 5: this long way to say that I will be at

861
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 5: home playing more Hades too. And if I haven't by

862
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 5: the time you're listening to this, if I haven't killed

863
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 5: uh so what's her name? Cilia and that freaking band,

864
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 5: I will be very upset. So hopefully I will have

865
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: already beaten Cilia and moved on into the you know,

866
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 5: the third world of Hades two.

867
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 3: So I wish we luck perfect.

868
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: What am I going to be doing this weekend, guys,

869
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to be I'll be plotting. Let me be

870
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: scheming this general I love that generally like plotting and scheming.

871
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: It's a good time for playing and scheming.

872
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: I feel like we need to be doing that. I

873
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: hope that people have a safe place to plot and scheme.

874
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Speaker 5: Oh yes, yeah, I like that.

875
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: It's very it's very cathartic to be doing that. Joelle's

876
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: asking me against I'm not going to talk about what

877
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm plotting about. Can't in a non bose me, in

878
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: a non plotting and scheming format. In the plotting and

879
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: scheming segment of my week and schemes will take place.

880
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: They will take place nowhere else.

881
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 3: And not on a recorded broadcast.

882
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: That no plotting. That's what I'll be doing, Rosie.

883
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: I love that.

884
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: I Am going to be just like hanging out watching

885
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: spooky movies. It's officially spooky season, so I'm going to

886
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: try and test out putting my projector outside to maybe

887
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: doing some little outdoor movie nights, a little bit of

888
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: you know, uh, practical magic over the garden wall.

889
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: Me and Joel planning to watch the whole season as

890
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: it is chance for a.

891
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 6: Season.

892
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: I do have a little I do have a cheeky

893
00:48:59,480 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: fire pit.

894
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: My neighbor does have a smoker, So we were like

895
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: centering cheeky little fire pit when my neighbor will be

896
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: probably smoking some meats, you know, So I think that

897
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: will be very fun. And Jason, just before we go,

898
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: I know that you recently learned about some delicious British snacks,

899
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: which I am a fan of. So tell me some

900
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: British snacks and I will think them.

901
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

902
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: I think it's temper rosie to explain British snacks. So

903
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: British GQ recently released this video of various British celebs,

904
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: celebs of British extraction, including dem Dame, Emma Thompson, Arsenals,

905
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: Ian Right, Andrew Garfield and more, talking about various British

906
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: snacks and so I want to talk about them. Sausage

907
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: rolls seem to be the consensus bottom tier British sausage.

908
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you the consensus. That's because they're all rich.

909
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: Everybody loves to eat a delicious sausage roll. It's got

910
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 2: delicious seasoned sausage meat inside it, and then you put

911
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: some delicious puff pastry around it.

912
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: You bake it very delicious if you make it at home.

913
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: And I get it, Jason Isaacs, he said, it's eyes buttholes, tails,

914
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: but isn't that every sausage really like ryann I sausage.

915
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: You can you can make a nice sausage roll exactly.

916
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: I would say, if you go to England, try a Greg.

917
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 3: Sausage roll, a hot Greg is it? Is it healthy

918
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: for you? Absolutely not? Is it delicious?

919
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: Yes?

920
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: So I disagree. I do not think that is an

921
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: FT snack. I think it's a I think it's a

922
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: mid tier British delicacy.

923
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: Hula hoops now, hula hoops. I'll just say, looking at

924
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: the packaging, it the packaging says, to my American eyes cheese.

925
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: It meets like good uh funion.

926
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I could see that.

927
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: I will say a hula hoop is essentially a potato ring.

928
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 3: When you're a kid, always like pretending you're wearing them.

929
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: You know, you can get multiple flavors they have, like

930
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: the classic red is already salted, so just your salted flavor.

931
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: You can also get, you know, barbecue beef I think

932
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: is one of the flavors. Classic English.

933
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 5: This is like the English version of bugles. Is that correct?

934
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 5: Like where we put.

935
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: Little exactly, But it's not like it's it's not a

936
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 3: corn chip? Is a potato chip?

937
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: I will say, I hula hoops are the one thing

938
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 2: that will always ask people to bring me back from England.

939
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: But I am a hula hoops betrayer at this point

940
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 2: because I have found that in Diso and the Japanese

941
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: markets they have a much better season.

942
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: That's Japanese. So I had ja ja, I'm moving hula

943
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: hoops down, but I still.

944
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: Love them, okay it consensus wise, our British celebs seem

945
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: to widely believe that all kinds of British potato products

946
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: are generally better than their com headers. This includes crisps,

947
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: which is yes, I believe chips there and uh chip

948
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: and what are fries? What do they call fries? Else?

949
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: Those are chips and okay, chips, crisps Okay, So chips

950
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: and crisps are widely preferred to any other version of

951
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: fry or chip your yes, your opinion.

952
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: So English chips as we would call them, like our

953
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: version of fries.

954
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: They are much thicker. You usually get them in a

955
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: fish and chip shop. It really is.

956
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: There's nothing comparable to quite get. Yes, it's a wide cut.

957
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: I will say a French fry is very popular in England.

958
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: Obviously we have a lot of American fast food, so

959
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: I do. I'm a fan of a shoe string fry,

960
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 2: but yeah, real fish and chips style big they look

961
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: kind of like a steak fry, but it's not the same.

962
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 3: Those are very.

963
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: Popular and I am a lover of them, and I've

964
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: yet to find anywhere that you can get a chip

965
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: can is alongside.

966
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 3: I will say I don't agree with like walkers, which

967
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 3: is our version of las. I don't think that any.

968
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: Such better than like an American chip. I just think

969
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: American chips all probably have a lot more stuff, more ingredients.

970
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: Is it about the newspaper cone?

971
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 7: You know?

972
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 3: That is part of it?

973
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: Is that part of why it tastes good like the

974
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: fish and chips when I've seen in the classic style

975
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: that I've seen very often the chip comes in this

976
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: kind of cone of newspaper.

977
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: That's true.

978
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: Yes, they actually fold up your dinner in the old newspaper.

979
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: That is a classic English thing that we've been doing

980
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: for a long.

981
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 3: Time in the fish and chip shops.

982
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: I would say the thing about an English chip that

983
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: is unique about Spica is not yes spice bag. You're

984
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: seeing a real chip in a spice bag. That's like

985
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 2: a chip, a real English chip. The thing about English

986
00:53:53,840 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: chips not particularly crispy. I will say that it's more

987
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: of a soft bite, but you do get the delicious

988
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: bits at the bottom.

989
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: You know, does then come off the When I used

990
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: to pack the Sunday papers as a job on Saturday nights,

991
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: late Saturday nights, like eight pm to six am on

992
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: Saturday nights, assembling the Sunday paper, I would come away

993
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: looking like a like a coal miner covered in ink,

994
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: in a layer of ink? Does it? Does the ink

995
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: not get on the chip and fish?

996
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 3: Okay? So I I would so I'm I'm understanding here.

997
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: I guess nowadays it has been like nine years since

998
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: I lived that it has not. They do not necessarily

999
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: still be wrapping them like that. I think most of

1000
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: them are in like polystyrene boxes. But I will say

1001
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: it is essentially the newspaper was used as like insulation.

1002
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 3: So you would put like a baking the grease away

1003
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: and then the news on top.

1004
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: And it was cheap and it was free because there

1005
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: is like a wax paper condom.

1006
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 5: It's like a war tip.

1007
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: It's not raw exactly, you know.

1008
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: I will say that the Americans, I do think you

1009
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: guys do struggle with compared. I do think English have

1010
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: you know, we have what we call them biscuits. You

1011
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: guys call them cookies. But like I will say, I

1012
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: do think the biscuit selection in England, like I love

1013
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: like a chocolate.

1014
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: Digestive something like that. That's that's really great.

1015
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: Your your baking tradition is a lot stronger, I think,

1016
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: and more varied than the American beaking tradition. Sorry to America,

1017
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: Like I love a cookie, your variety of like different

1018
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: kinds of biscuits for different kinds of things, like a

1019
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: post dinner biscuit, a biscuit for the tea exactly.

1020
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: A biscuit for the tea.

1021
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: Also, just too many ingredients in America, Like if you

1022
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: buy bread in America, why does it have like twenty

1023
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: five added ingredients?

1024
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: Like it just needs to be just like salt and

1025
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 3: water and like yeast of flour.

1026
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: Also, I'll say this, you know, you guys don't do

1027
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: a donut, but you do do do those little biscuits

1028
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: with ringed biscuits. Oh that's the thing that where we.

1029
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: England.

1030
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 2: England donuts do not even compare. We do not have

1031
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: the cultural history and vibrant, so the doughnut commuters here live.

1032
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 2: I live in South LA, so we have like a

1033
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: vibrant Cambodian in Vietnamese donut culture here to the point

1034
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 2: where like you can buy a donut here for seventy

1035
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: five cents or a dollar that you would be paying

1036
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: five dollars for in England.

1037
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: It's the week donut today.

1038
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, now I want a donut America. You

1039
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: win the donut contest definitely.

1040
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 3: That is higher up.

1041
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, I noticed that Aaron has popped back in

1042
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: to insult my takes on cookies and biscuits specifically.

1043
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 3: But anyway, Aaron, what are you looking forward to this weekend?

1044
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: I am very excited this weekend. My friends and I

1045
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 4: are going to do our first game with the Spider

1046
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 4: Man set for Magic Yah, which just came out. We've

1047
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 4: been a little hesitant because it it is sort of

1048
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 4: a little speaking of of cookies and biscuits, it's a

1049
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 4: little under baked, and then started on a small set

1050
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 4: under baked started that was a really great accent small

1051
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: and then they's kind of floated it to make it

1052
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 4: more of a standard set. We're not sure how we

1053
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 4: feel yet, but we haven't played it, so we're gonna

1054
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 4: mess around with this weekend and see and I'll report back.

1055
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: Yes, please report back, because I've seen the arts really cool.

1056
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 3: But yes, I've been reading mixed mixed reviews.

1057
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 4: Some cards with like really great old comic covers as

1058
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 4: the art of the cards, like full art cards which

1059
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 4: look beautiful. And of course there's like different versions of

1060
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 4: Spider Man that are worth a ton of money. But

1061
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 4: we're just looking to see can I play as Venom?

1062
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: Can I play as Shocker?

1063
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: Like?

1064
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 3: How will this look?

1065
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: So? And Aaron, what was your what was your you

1066
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: put in the chat? Wow? Horrible take.

1067
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 4: The horrible take was that biscuits are better than cookies.

1068
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: Correct, just cookies.

1069
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: It's just cookies. It's the same. It's just English biscuits, abat.

1070
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: I think there's a wider variety of English of purposely

1071
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: designed biscuits for specific situations, whereas America there's lots of

1072
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: American cookies. But they're just like cookies for cookies, right.

1073
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 4: Just because you have a huge variety doesn't mean it's better.

1074
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 4: So a sports thing, if your basketball team has three centers,

1075
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 4: that's not a good setup. One good center, No, but

1076
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 4: that's see, but American cookies are like here's here's American

1077
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 4: here's American cookies.

1078
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: We do we do like very basic American cookie meal.

1079
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: We do some version of chalcol meal, and then we

1080
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: do like a chocolate chip. And then all the is

1081
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: like fucking size. It's like here's a little cook here's cookies.

1082
00:58:54,040 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: Here's whereas the British biscuits, there's like differences in how

1083
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: crumbly they are, how crunchy they are, the topping, the size,

1084
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: what you do it with. Here's a post dinner cookie.

1085
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: Here's a with tea cookie, Here's a here's just like

1086
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: a pile of biscuits for dessert biscuit time. Here's a

1087
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: biscuit you have at school.

1088
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: Here's exactly. And it's true they love a biscuit. But

1089
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: I will bring you some delicious biscuits back, amazing. What

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Speaker 2: I really want bread, A British shortbread.

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Speaker 3: Now that's delicious.

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Speaker 1: Are you watching the Great British Bakeoff era? I know

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Speaker 1: it's great short bread.

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Speaker 3: Guys, Great Great British Bakeoff. Check in when we have.

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Speaker 1: To do this. This will be the end of the episode.

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Speaker 1: I'll leave us with this. I've been watching Great British

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Speaker 1: bakeoff for years, years and years now and what it's

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Speaker 1: in the American season now the Netflix version is like

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Speaker 1: what season four or whatever? Five? Yeah, and it's in

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Speaker 1: season ten or something of how long they've been doing

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Speaker 1: it all this time, and every season there is Paul Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: We'll still be like, Okay, we're gonna do a uh

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Speaker 1: syene blue or and I'm like, look at why is

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Speaker 1: there yet another British baking pastry dessert we've never heard of?

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Speaker 1: Still ten plus years into this show and everybody's like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, one of these. I'm like, what what

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Speaker 1: the fuck is that there? You never Here's a king,

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Speaker 1: Here's a king, Prussian King, Prussian, chocolate colored King, Prussian.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what, Yeah, where are these coming from?

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Speaker 3: I know that's what we Let's get pull Hollywood on

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Speaker 3: the Schevin Oskin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very blue eyes. That's it for this episode. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening. We'll be back tomorrow with the Biggest News

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Speaker 1: of the Week.

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Speaker 5: By Biscuit ray Vision Bye Biscuit ray Vision x ray Biscuit.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Sept and Rosy

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Speaker 1: Night and is a production of iHeart Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Are executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abu Zafar.

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Speaker 2: Our producers are Common, Laurent Dean Jonathan and Faye Wag.

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Speaker 1: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kauffman.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and

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Speaker 2: Heidi our discord moderator