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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back George Nor along with Sonya Grace. Her

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Speaker 2: website is linked up at Coast tocoastam dot com. Sonya

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Speaker 2: with your new book. Tell me about the title, The

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Speaker 2: Journey Around the Medicine Wheel.

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Speaker 3: Thanks George. The Journey Around the Medicine Wheel The Sacred

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Speaker 3: Trinity is this lovely little book that has my artwork

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Speaker 3: in it. You know, I'm also an artist and several

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Speaker 3: of my books, including my Oracle Odin in the Nine

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Speaker 3: Realms is all my original artwork.

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Speaker 2: You're not Da Vinci, but you're not bad.

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Speaker 3: The thing that's really cool about this book, and I

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Speaker 3: am definitely dating myself, so try not to lose that

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Speaker 3: I'm twenty four years old. I did these drawings over

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Speaker 3: forty years ago. And you know what's incredible is I

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Speaker 3: did these drawings based on the work that I was

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Speaker 3: trained with and my teacher, my first teacher was a

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Speaker 3: young man therapist and a healer, an amazing human being,

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Speaker 3: and so it got combined with my Native American religion

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Speaker 3: practice and The Journey Around the Medicine Wheel is about

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Speaker 3: sitting in different places around that wheel in the west,

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Speaker 3: in the north, in the east, and the south, and

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Speaker 3: gaining a different perspective as you sit in that wheel.

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Speaker 3: And the book teaches how we are medicine wheels, and

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Speaker 3: that we're all sitting in a big circle together. And

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Speaker 3: you might be over in the east and you perceive

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Speaker 3: a certain way, and I'm over here in the west

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Speaker 3: and I'm perceiving a certain way. But as we move

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Speaker 3: around that wheel, we change our perspective and we sit

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Speaker 3: in different parts of ourselves that teach us. So it's

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Speaker 3: a sweet little book and it's got a lot of heart,

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Speaker 3: and it is the basis of my work. It goes

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Speaker 3: into the inner male and the inner female and the

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Speaker 3: inner child, which is the sacred Trinity.

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Speaker 2: How did you become an energy healer?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I was born this way. I was

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Speaker 3: born with all sensory systems on. I see here, feel, smell,

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Speaker 3: and taste everything in the spirit world. So I had

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Speaker 3: a very odd childhood, and you know, and I've always

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Speaker 3: had that healing aspect going on. And of course, sitting

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Speaker 3: with my first teacher, I was quite young, but she

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Speaker 3: helped me sort of corral and create a strong base

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Speaker 3: and platform for my abilities, and I trained with several

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Speaker 3: other teachers following that. But I feel the work that

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Speaker 3: I do now long distance has certainly evolved over time

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Speaker 3: and my ability to spirit travel, as we talked about earlier,

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Speaker 3: my ability to put myself in front of someone and

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Speaker 3: do a body scan and not only scan the body,

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Speaker 3: but go in and work on them. Oh look there's

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Speaker 3: you know, you've you've got a hernia. Let me push

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Speaker 3: that back in here. I'll use a little bit of

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Speaker 3: mesh and now I'm going to stitch it up. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm basically energetically doing what a surgeon does, but I'm

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Speaker 3: doing it energetically.

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Speaker 2: Have you had remarkable results? Sonya?

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Speaker 3: I have? I have. I've had people call me and

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Speaker 3: it's so funny. You know, people call me like months later,

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Speaker 3: Oh remember that session you did with me. My cancer

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Speaker 3: is gone. It's like, and you're telling me now, okay.

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Speaker 2: Doctors must be baffled.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they are. They are totally baffled. And some doctors

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Speaker 3: are curious, like I want to know who she is,

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Speaker 3: and other doctors are you know, they they discount the

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Speaker 3: whole thing. My sister is a doctor, and I sat

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Speaker 3: across from her in a coffee shop in Oslo, Norway.

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Speaker 3: She said, I'm having problems with my eyes. I've got

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Speaker 3: a torn retina and excuse me, a detached retina. I

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Speaker 3: have a detached retina. I'm going to the ophtsalmologist in

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Speaker 3: a couple of days. We're going to figure out what

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Speaker 3: to do. And I put my little coffee cup down

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Speaker 3: and I said, just a minute. I was sitting in

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Speaker 3: do it if I was, you know, back here in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: And I just sealed up that retina and got her

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Speaker 3: And she went to the doctor two days later and

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Speaker 3: the doctor said, I could have sworn I told you

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, for that to happen with the doctor was

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Speaker 3: really fun because she's she's a real believer.

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Speaker 2: Now, now, what is the medicine wheel part of the

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Speaker 2: title of the book mean, part of what your book?

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Speaker 2: What does that medicine wheel parts mean?

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Speaker 3: Well, the medicine the medicine wheel is the journey that

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Speaker 3: we're all on, right, we all have similar experiences, but

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Speaker 3: we perceive in it in our own unique way and perception.

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Speaker 3: George is based on so many things. It's based on

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Speaker 3: your karma and the emotional wounding that you brought with you.

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Speaker 3: Karma is unresolved emotional wounds, so you brought that with you,

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Speaker 3: and you have your own psychology which you inherited from

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Speaker 3: your parents. And so much of the work that I do,

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Speaker 3: despite the fact that I'm doing healing work all day,

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Speaker 3: is also deep processing, and I help people to work

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Speaker 3: through those emotional wounds to extract, you know, anger and

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Speaker 3: manifesting illness and disease. And there's so much cancer going

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Speaker 3: on right now. So many people have cancer, and you know,

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Speaker 3: shout out to anybody out there who is dealing with

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Speaker 3: care answer because it's not an easy path, but we're

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Speaker 3: having remarkable things happen. I work on people, I work

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Speaker 3: on their cancer, But when it comes to cancer, I

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Speaker 3: believe you need a team. You need me to do

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Speaker 3: the energetic healing work you need. I'm putting all my

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Speaker 3: cancer patients on Velasta. Velasta is a red algae. It's

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Speaker 3: a natural anti inflammatory. I have a code it's on

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Speaker 3: my website to get a discount. But George, it's incredible

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Speaker 3: because taking down the inflammation is literally helping people their

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Speaker 3: cancer to go away. And ivermectin, my god. Ivermectin now

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Speaker 3: has six peer reviewed papers on cancers that it heals,

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Speaker 3: and because so many people went on ivermectin during COVID,

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Speaker 3: a lot of cancer was getting healed. So now there's

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Speaker 3: a big study going on, and you know, Bobby Kennedy

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Speaker 3: is going to try to get ivermectin as an over

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Speaker 3: the counter drug for people to take. And that brings

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Speaker 3: me to the next point. The whole basis of cancer

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Speaker 3: is from parasitical infestation in the body, meaning everybody has parasites,

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Speaker 3: and if we get rid of the parasites, we get

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Speaker 3: rid of the path of destruction that they leave in

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Speaker 3: are the basis for the cancer to get started. So

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Speaker 3: I encourage again all of my clients to do parasite cleanses,

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Speaker 3: to get on ivermectin, get rid of the parasites, because

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Speaker 3: they're now finding, for example, a doctor talked about a

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Speaker 3: dissecting it and there were parasites in it. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: it's it's like, it's so amazing to me how Western

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Speaker 3: we better test you for parasites. Come on, there is

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Speaker 3: prevalent in this country as they are in any other country.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that ivermectin was initially a horse tranquilizer for parasites.

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Speaker 3: Right, the horse based I know. I've told so many

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Speaker 3: people about ivermectin and they kind of, you know, shriek

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Speaker 3: and go oh, but that's horse based, and it's like, no,

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Speaker 3: it is a fifty year tried and true Nobel Prize

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Speaker 3: winning farm aceutical drug and it works.

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Speaker 2: And my warning the people is, don't take the amount

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Speaker 2: that they give to a horse exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: It is based on your weight, but so is the

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Speaker 3: that makes perfectly good sense. You know who what would

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Speaker 3: be right for a two hundred pound person would not

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Speaker 2: You've heard of Edgar Casey, Yes, of course. Edgar Casey

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Speaker 2: says if you eat three raw almonds a day, you'll

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Speaker 2: prevent cancer. He doesn't use the word cure, he said prevent.

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Speaker 2: What is What is it about the almonds that might

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Speaker 2: have some properties in there?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that one, George, but I think

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Speaker 3: that almonds are you know, or any kind of natural

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Speaker 3: food is a form of medicine. And that's why it's

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Speaker 3: so important that we get back to not spraying and

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Speaker 3: been happening to our food, because that you know, that cauliflower,

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Speaker 3: that broccoli, that carrot, that onion, whatever you're eating becomes

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Speaker 3: medicine for your body. You know, this young girl, sixteen

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Speaker 3: in a science fair for discovering that choke cherry pudding,

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Speaker 3: which is what they eat, it's one of their traditional foods,

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Speaker 3: is actually a cure for cancers. And so they're doing

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Speaker 3: more study and research on it. But see, there's things

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Speaker 2: Do you consider yourself, Sonya, also a mystic?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do very much so, and I think that

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Speaker 3: because there's so much that I do, and there's such

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Speaker 3: a wide range of what I do, and that that

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Speaker 3: it's never an on and off thing. I don't have

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Speaker 3: it's it's just who I am. And that, to me

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Speaker 3: people have to be open to these things. They can't,

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Speaker 3: you know, they can't come to me and say, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, I've got a bad colon, but you know

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Speaker 3: I don't believe in what you do, Well, then go

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Speaker 3: Any kind of pushback that comes to me, I feel

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Speaker 3: But I guess I'll see.

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Speaker 2: How did John of God go bad? Oh, George, what

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Speaker 3: And George, isn't that a bigger question? How do people

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Speaker 3: go bad? We got a lot of people we're looking

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Speaker 3: at right now in our society that have potentially, you know,

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Speaker 3: super important I feel for your listeners to hear me

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Speaker 3: out on this. Addiction is prevalent. We are a society,

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Speaker 3: a world society that is addicted or addicted to our phones,

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Speaker 3: to gaming, to texting, to drinking, to drugging, whatever it

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Speaker 3: is food. We're addicted. And we're not dealing with addiction.

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Speaker 3: We're just treating one addiction with another. And what that

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Speaker 3: does George is that keeps us from going deeper and

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Speaker 3: really you know, like excavating. Like I've talked about those

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