1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: What is up, Straight Fire Way, It's me Jason McIntyre. 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Straight Oh you're hurt for Tuesday, December the thirtieth. I 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: hope you got some New Year's Eve plans, folks, because 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: there is a college football game. But you need to 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: go out of New Year's Eve if you're under the 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: age of like thirty two, maybe I think a guys 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: staying single longer, I'll say under the age of thirty five. 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: After that it becomes amateur hour. But we got to 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: start with last night's game. Holy hell, was that fascinating. 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: So the Rams, who you know, have a shot at 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: the five seed, obviously they'd like to sit there. Guys 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: keep Stafford a company healthy. They just go and flat 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 2: as hell, and the Falcons lead to a twenty one 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: zero lead, and there was a lot of oh my gosh, 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: Stafford lost the MVP. He threw a bad pick six. 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: Maybe the Rams pack it in well, you know, as 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: a guy who posted about a nineteen money line parlay, Yes, 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: that's right, nineteamer, I had eight home and I had 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: the Rams as my last one. No, I didn't hedge. 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm an idiot. I'm like, all right, come on, you go, 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: you gotta make the comeback Rams, And of course they 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: come back, tie it up. I thought they should have 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: gone for two. I'll ask Rob g his thoughts and 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: I'll break it down. But they don't. They kick the tie. 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: Falcons drive slow, slow, slow, some questionable runs by Algier 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: over Bijeon three in a row into the line of scrimmage, 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: and the Falcons survived twenty seven to twenty four. It 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: doesn't mean much for Atlanta, obviously, they don't have a 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: pick next year, so it goes to the Rams. But 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: it is kind of important for the Rams. They're like 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: kind of sort of locked in to the sixth seed, 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: which means unless the Bears lose this weekend and the 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Eagles win, Eagles will beat the Washington. We know that 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: Bears Lions is gonna be frisky. Dan Campbell ain't laying down, 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: that's for sure. I but remember Ben Johnson's gonna want 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: revenge because they got their ask kicked by thirty in 38 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: Detroit earlier. So it's not a layup for Detroit. Certainly 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 2: outdoors it won't be. But it looks like the Rams 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: are locked into the three. They'll go to Philadelphia. That's 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: not ideal. Those are probably two of the three best 42 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: teams in the NFC, and they got to face off 43 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: in Round one. That stinks for the league for sure, 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: and for the Rams, who had a great season and 45 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: looked super Bowl bound. I just that Eagles defense. Eagles 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: already beat him in a great game earlier this year. 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: But I do want to quickly go back to the 48 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: two point conversion. So again, remember twenty one, nothing Rams 49 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: down bad, they storm back. All the momentum in the world, 50 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: Mercedes Benz, whatever the stadiums called there in Atlanta, Silent, 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: dead ass, silent. No Rams are flying Atlanta for New Years, Okay, 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: and McVeigh decides to just kick the extra point. No 53 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: other We're like two minutes left and he had all 54 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: three timeouts, so should you miss, you could try the 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: on side kick or try to hold him and use 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: your timeouts. I was surprised that a a Vegas gambler 57 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: like McVeagh, whose offense had been red hot in the 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 2: second half, the run game had not really been there, 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: but it started to open up. I just it was 60 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: perplexing to me that he did say, you know what, 61 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: let's go for two. Now we saw this with Bill's Eagles. 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: There were some people in the Buffalo crowd saying, list 63 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: A Buffalo is exhausted. They don't want to play in 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: overtime or skin injury. They just want to get out 65 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: of there. The Rams seemed content, Hey, well, just our 66 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: defense played great in the second half. Let's just lock 67 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: them down. I don't know, man, I would have gone 68 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: for two if I was McVeigh. I'm usually the guy 69 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: who's cautious. But again, if you're what do you have 70 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: to lose? If you're McVey, you're obviously the better signal caller. 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: You've got the MVP who may have lost it to 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: Drake May. If people want to buy into recency bias, 73 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: I just I was surprised by the move, Rob G. 74 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: Were you not totally? 75 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: Only because I feel like that's kind of on brand 76 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: for Sean McVay. Sean McVay and you can say this 77 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: about Kyle shannan'sue to a lesser extent, But they're billed 78 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: as these geniuses, right like these guys are these other 79 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: worldly wizards when it comes to offensive football. But if 80 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 4: you follow their careers long enough and close enough, you'll 81 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: know that for as intelligent and as bright as their 82 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: minds are at their core, they're very conservative with the 83 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: way that they call games, especially late. If they're winning 84 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: or if it's a tight game, they're gonna take the 85 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 4: three instead of going for an on fourth down, They're 86 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 4: going to kick the extra points that are going for two. 87 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: Like that's just in their DNA. Part of it, it 88 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: could be that maybe they're so smart they're over analyzing everything, 89 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: so like their default mechanism is to just do the 90 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: safe play instead of what would be considered creative or unique. 91 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: Part of it could be that they believe that their 92 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: offensive minds and their structure is such that if we 93 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: drag this out long enough, if we take it into 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: the deep waters, eventually my way is gonna win out 95 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: because I'm just stronger mentally than you are. And so 96 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: I was not surprised at all that day Settle for 97 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: the field goal there. 98 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's interesting because they remember how aggressive he 99 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: was against Seattle in that Thursday night. I mean he 100 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: went for fourth down I think three times early on. 101 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: It was like super confident, super aggressive, and I guess 102 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: he just I don't know, man, I don't think that 103 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: cost him the game obviously, because the Falcons had plenty 104 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: of time to go down the field. It was just 105 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: a weird call on the road. I don't know. Maybe 106 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: you got to be cautious, but overall, I don't want 107 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: to read too much in the whole MVP discussion. Drey 108 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: Mary has been sent sacio now. As they like to 109 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: say in soccer in South America, I don't honestly don't care. 110 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: I think you know, quick, rob G, how many MVPs 111 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: in the regular season. 112 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 3: For Tom Brady? 113 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: Uh? 114 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: Two? Quick? 115 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: Rob? I don't know the answer, rob G. How many 116 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: for Aaron Rodgers? How many for Troy ach Been. I 117 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: just I don't think it matters. Just football is way 118 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: more of a team sport than anything, And I don't know. 119 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: I can't get caught up in the conversation. May's been 120 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: awesome if you want. 121 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: To give it three MVP for Tom Brady, by the way. 122 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: Close right, close, by the way, give me. Do you 123 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 2: have it in front of you? All the leaders for MVP, 124 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: like most, I think Rogers might have four. 125 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: I believe Peyton Manning is the leader, so I think 126 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: he has five. I think Rogers has four, and I 127 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: think that that is the way it goes down. 128 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's weird. Nobody considers either of them like 129 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: a top three quarterback all time. Right by most it's 130 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: Brady Mahomes Montana, right, because everybody's. 131 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 3: Like the super Bowls, right, Yeah. 132 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: So like Peyton Manning on one super Bowl. You know 133 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: a lot of AFC championship, he got two super Bowls? 134 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, weronco second ones? Yeah, we don't count the second one. 135 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: No, no, you have to count just I should ask 136 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: you to edit that out. I sound like a fool 137 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: only as one. I mean, so Eli has two, Peyton 138 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: has two, Rogers has one. He ain't getting one this year. Now, 139 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: why don't we take that opportunity to pivot to the 140 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: Steelers again. I'm not big on the Pittsburgh Steelers. I 141 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: didn't think they make the playoffs. They're making me look dumb. 142 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: But they go into this game against Baltimore with subplots galore. 143 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: Rob g found this interesting. I guess uh Schefter won 144 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: on some radio show and was like, Hey, if the 145 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: Steelers lose on Sunday night football, it's not out of 146 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: the realm of possibility that Tomlin bounces to television or 147 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: another job or retires. And I'm like, wait, wait, what 148 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: is this Mike Tomlin's way of raw rayeing his guys, 149 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: Mott robb g because things are not looking good. This 150 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: was three and a half. I'm still seeing three and 151 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: a half. But and that's with no Lamar Jackson expected 152 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: He's a shade under fifty to fifty was the last 153 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: report I saw. But what's interesting, Rob is no DK 154 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: metcalf tight end. Darnel Washington broke his arm. 155 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: TJ. 156 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: Watt doubtful. I mean, you're you're going into this with 157 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: one arm tied behind your back. Now the Raven secondary stinks. 158 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: But if you think of the last meeting, how did 159 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: Rogers cook him? I think he went deep on like 160 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: the second or third play of the game to DK 161 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: to set the tone, and Rogers went up and down 162 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: the field against him, and that's when Baltimore had Lamar. 163 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: Baltimore's defense isn't suddenly fix. Guys, did you watch mo 164 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: Willis malake Willi's out here trying to get paid. I 165 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: mean he had like an I think he was like 166 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: twenty three of twenty set ridiculous numbers, throwing the ball 167 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: all over the field. I don't know, I mean, I 168 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: don't think this Ravens defense is great. I think there's 169 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: a world where Rodgers wins this outright with Tomlin and 170 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: gets to the playoffs. Now, if they don't, I think 171 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: you're gonna point a lot of fingers at DK Metcalf 172 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: that incident with the fan in Detroit. If he doesn't 173 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: do that, they probably beat the Browns. And I know, Jay, 174 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: come on, it's a wide receiver. He's not even a 175 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: top ten receiver in the league. Yeah, but for the Steelers, 176 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: he matters immensely. They don't have anyone good in the 177 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: receiving corps. I mean they were throwing an MVS with 178 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: the game on the line when he's being guarded by 179 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: didzel Ward. I mean again, they had eight completions, two receivers. 180 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: Rogers was twenty one to thirty nine. Terrible game. Here's 181 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: who his biggest target was MVS with nine. I mean 182 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: MVS is I don't know. I don't want to call 183 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: the guy washed, but I mean you look at his stats, like, really, 184 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: they're throwing an MVS. What was he on his eighth 185 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: team in the last five years. I just the guys. 186 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: I mean he was on San Francisco midway through the season. 187 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: He just got to Pittsburgh and they're targeting him nine 188 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: times in a huge game. John hu Smith five, Scottie Miller, 189 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: the former Tampa Bay Buck, had seven targets. I mean, 190 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: this is just you're not winning football games this way. 191 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: Adam Thielen, who I think was on like Minnesota, made Carolina. 192 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: I forget where he was. It doesn't matter. That's what 193 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: we're talking about. So, like this whole Mike Tomlin report 194 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: to me is an effort to galvanize his team. I 195 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: think that leaked out on purpose. It's just Mike Tomlin's 196 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: last row drive up interest generate viewers for the Sunday 197 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 2: night football game. I mean, you know, Rob, this is 198 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: kind of how the game is played. I mean, I 199 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: hate to say it, but this is the real thing. Yes, 200 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: Kit does stuff leak out on purpose? Hell yeah? The 201 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: subplot Now for what listen? Week seventeen was awful, with 202 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: the exception of the end of Rams Falcons, not the 203 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: full game. The full game Bears Diners was great, but 204 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 2: most of the other game sucked. End of the Eagles 205 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: Bills for like six minutes was good. It was just 206 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: a bad week of football. There's a bad product with 207 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: a lot of tanking teams, and so you know, Week 208 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: eighteen rob the two good games Saturday. The entire Week 209 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: eighteen Sunday lineup is unwatchable. There's no good games. I 210 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: don't I mean, I think it's the most like seventy 211 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: percent backup quarterbacks, and then there's Sunday Night Football. So 212 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: I do think there is some gamesmanship here. I don't 213 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: think Mike Tomlin's walking away after blowing this lead where 214 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: they were in the playoffs and then they fall out 215 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: because they lose to their hated rivals. I don't see it. 216 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: But are you a believer that Tomlin's done? 217 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 218 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 219 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 220 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: listen live. 221 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: Put a pen on that for a second. There's actually 222 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 4: you say the two good games on Saturday. Because of 223 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 4: that Falcons win on Monday Night Football, that game could 224 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 4: be immaterial because it's being billed as winner take all 225 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: Carolina Tampa Bay. If Tampa Bay wins, they're in right, 226 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: Not so fast, because if Carolina loses and Atlanta wins, 227 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 4: then we have a three way tight eight to nine 228 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: in Carolina still get into the playoffs. So this whole 229 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: thing is asked backwards there in the nfccudeways. 230 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: Does Atlanta New Orleans become musty TV? 231 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: Now? 232 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: It could be, It could be. 233 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: But as far as the Mike Tomlin thing, I agree 234 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 4: with you that there's something in that ferures going on, 235 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: but I choose to see it from the opposite direction. 236 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: I choose to see it from the perspective of maybe 237 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: this is Mike Tomlins camp leaping it out that he's 238 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: been told, Hey, we're ready for a new voice. The 239 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: fire Tomlin chance that we had about a month ago 240 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: that's really resonated with us here at ownership front office. 241 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: The fan base is kind of not saying that they're 242 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 4: done with him, but you know, it's kind of ran 243 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: its course, which just happens to any relationship, and it's 244 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 4: not just in sports but in personal professional life. 245 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: Whatever. 246 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: What if they've already told him that if you miss 247 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: the playoffs, we're gonna go ahead and start a new 248 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 4: We're gonna have a new quarterback in place, a new 249 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: coach in place, We're gonna try to see how the 250 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: other half lives, so to speak, and rebuild. Finally, after 251 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: two decades, right, the Steelers do not rebuild their retool. 252 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: So what if this is Mike Tomlins way of floating 253 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 4: it out there that says, Hey, if I lose on Sunday, 254 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: rather than them firing me or push me out the door, 255 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 4: I'm gonna step away on my own accord and I'm 256 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: gonna decide if I want to go in a TV 257 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: float it out to the guys at Fox or CBS 258 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: or NBC, like, hey, I could be available if you 259 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 4: want to talk to my agent, if you want to 260 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 4: get the dollars lined up and see what's going on, 261 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: or if you're a team like you know my Raiders, 262 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 4: like the New York Giants that are so desperate to 263 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: have a culture shift in the building. Well, is there 264 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: anybody in football who has a better reputation for me 265 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: a culture builder than Mike Tomlin. So this could be 266 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: his way of putting it out to the media, putting 267 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: out the schefter and saying this is my soft landing, 268 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 4: and things go sideways that you know, this is not 269 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: them getting rid of me. This is me divorcing myself 270 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: from that situation and looking for something else. 271 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: So the Raiders run off. Pete Carroll get the number 272 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: one pick, and they convinced Tomlin. Well, Tom Brady and 273 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: company says, hey, why don't you come coach Fernando Mendoza 274 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: and start a new in Vegas, Tomlin. That's interesting. 275 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's another different conversation, is that I 276 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: don't know if Nanda Mendoza is the sure for our number. 277 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: One pick, who else could be the number one pick. 278 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: We don't know what's going with Dante Moore in Oregon. 279 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 4: You know, I know that the expectation is going back 280 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: to school. But let's say he rolls things up here 281 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: on Thursday, you know, in the in the collegeball playoff, 282 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 4: they make a run, maybe even then win the national championship, 283 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: and the calculus around his name is suddenly flipped because 284 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: I saw I believe it was on Draft Kings off 285 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: the double check here. Maybe we'll do a wor we're 286 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 4: talking and Fernando Mendoza, who's being talked about, is the 287 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 4: surefire slam dunk number one overall pick. Everybody's tanking for 288 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: Mendoza here. That's why Giants Raider as such a big 289 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 4: deal of the week seventeen, And I believe it was 290 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: DraftKings had him only as like a minus one seventy 291 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 4: five favorite to go number one overall, which tells you 292 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: that even they aren't convinced that he's the slam dunk guy. 293 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: That tells you that if Dante More comes out or something, 294 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: you know, I know this is not gonna happen. But 295 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 4: if Archie Manning decides he's gonna flip the script, he's 296 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: gonna want to come out after boldseason. You know, Fernando 297 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: Mendoza is not a slam dunk draft prospect. He doesn't 298 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: have the measurables, he doesn't have the the arm, talent, 299 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: he doesn't have all those things they look for when 300 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: they say this guy is easily the top prospect available. 301 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: He's getting it based off of his team wins. He's 302 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: a very good player. But who else are you going 303 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: to take? That's kind of what the argument has been 304 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: in his favor. So who's to say that it's not 305 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: somebody else that you're building around in Vegas? 306 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: So interesting anti Mendoza stuff. So so, he turned twenty 307 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: two in October six five, two twenty five, got the frame. 308 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: Thirty two starts in college. You know, there's a lot 309 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: of guys who are like thirteen starts. I think Anthony 310 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: Richardson was like four or something insane. So he's basically 311 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: been a start for three years. Red shirted at Cal, 312 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: did two years there, then came to Indiana. Here are 313 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: his completion percentages by year sixty three, sixty eight, seventy one. 314 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: Led the country in completion percentage, led the country in 315 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: yards per attempt nine point four. So this isn't some 316 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: dink and dunk stuff. This isn't one of these like 317 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: Lane Kiffen quarterbacks, who's a system guy putting up massive numbers. Yes, 318 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: the Big ten was down, but when you toss in 319 00:15:54,640 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: character and obviously Mendoza story is incredible. He is you know, 320 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: I don't go overboard, but the guy is freaking incredible. 321 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: You know. He committed initially to play college football at 322 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: Yale and then went to Cal and said, oh, yeah, 323 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: you can play high level Division one and oh, by 324 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: the way, you can go to our business school. He 325 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: graduated with a bachelor's degree in business admin from that 326 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: incredible School of Business at Berkeley. Then he goes to 327 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: Indiana in roles at business school there too. His off 328 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: seasons are right about in the Wall Street Journal. He's 329 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: got like a LinkedIn page, all these dopey quarterbacks. You know, 330 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: we talked about Jackson Dart flexing with his hot ring 331 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: card model girlfriend. You know, he's an ig kind of guy. 332 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: He's a TikTok kind of guy. Mendoza, he's updating his LinkedIn, 333 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: rob G, this is a big I'm kind of in 334 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: love with Mendoza. And you know, I just saw that 335 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: the Jets were officially eliminated from the number one pick 336 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: because of that loss by the or that win by 337 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: the Falcons. So it's either gonna be Raiders or Giants. 338 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: Probably Raiders then Giants then Jets. So if it is 339 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: Mendoza and more, Jets are screwed sol If the Giants 340 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: want to go that route, the Giants will dangle the 341 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: two pick. Hey do you want Dante Moore come up 342 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: and get it. Jets won't be stupid enough to do it, 343 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: or the Giants beat the Cowboys Sunday. Now that is 344 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: going to be in play, rob G. I firmly believe 345 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: that this team is a bunch of tryhard right now 346 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: in New York, I was so wrong. I thought your Raiders. 347 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 2: I flipped when I saw Crosby out, I was like wait, well, 348 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: what kind of stuff's going on here? But I think 349 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: the Giants will be in play interesting. I like Mendoza 350 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: and Indiana against Alabama. It'll be basically a showdown of 351 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: two guys, will be probably first round picks Ty Simpson 352 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: at quarterback and Mendoza. I'm on Indiana and that one. 353 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: And now that's I think that Thursday. Yeah, that's Thursday game? 354 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 2: Or do you have any action on that? 355 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: Not yet? You know, are obviously. 356 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 4: Getting getting your money back counts as winnings. Then possibly, 357 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 4: But let's just remember recall Brad Powers front of the 358 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 4: show said about a week and a half ago that, 359 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 4: you know, every quarterback that is coached by Kurt Signetti 360 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: seems to win player of the Year honors. You know, 361 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 4: let me reach a couple of names in reverse order. Uh, 362 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 4: does the name Jordan McLeod ring a bell for you? Okay, 363 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: I have about a todd sentio negative. 364 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: I'll see. 365 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: So what if not no Mendoza like I So maybe 366 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: it is possible that Signetti is just such a guru 367 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 4: that this kind of stuff follows him. 368 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: That's entirely possible. 369 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,239 Speaker 4: But to your point, yes, I think the Giants are 370 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 4: very much in play that that report from Ian Rappaport 371 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 4: linking Mendoza to the Giants even though they supposedly have 372 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: their QB one in Jackson Dart and Jackson Dart being 373 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 4: told about it, and you know, his response was classy, like. 374 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: Oh it was Dark's response. I didn't see that. 375 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 4: He's like, hey, you know, I think believe in me, 376 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 4: and I mean, I'm not really worried about that kind 377 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 4: of stuff, blah blah blah. And I would think that's true. 378 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 4: But I also think that his biggest supporter was Brian 379 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 4: Dablon Brian Able. 380 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: Ain't there no more? 381 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's also interesting that, yeah, that you know, 382 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 2: the Giants. GM is desperate to save his job, so 383 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: he's trying to impress the owner with, hey, look I 384 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: could get I could get a war chest of picks 385 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: if we flip Mendoza. So I've got to give the 386 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: impression that we want him. Sure, So the game playing 387 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: has already started. By the way, Giants are four and 388 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: a half point dogs at home against the Cowboys. Cowboys 389 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: defense is really down bad. It's going to be in 390 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: the twenties at MetLife on Sunday. By the way, Powers 391 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: is not the only guy who's lukewarm on Mendoza. I 392 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: don't want to put words in his mouth, but Daniel 393 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: Jeremiah is like the quarterbacks. He's not bashing Mendoza at all, 394 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 2: but he's like, hey, the quarterbacks in this class are 395 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: not as good as Kim Ward was last year. They're 396 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: definitely not as good as the class from two years 397 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: ago with Bo Nicks, JJ McCarthy, Jadeen Drake. So that's 398 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: his way of being polite. Now. I had reached out 399 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: to Jeremiah about some stuff that he was putting on 400 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: Twitter that I found fascinating. So he's gonna try to 401 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: come on the pod next week nice before after the 402 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 2: coaches are fired and stuff. 403 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: That's a way to frame him. Well, he coaches get fired, 404 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: he's gonna come on. 405 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: Well, I mean after the coaches get fired. We the 406 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: sees regular season is over, we know the draft order 407 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: at least the first like twenty picks, and he can 408 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: offer some stuff. Obviously he's gonna be getting ready for 409 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: that Chargers playoff game. But yeah, the NFL listen as 410 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: a Jets fan, I'm so ready for the season to 411 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: be over. I'm excited for January February March. Can we 412 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: just do the do that. We didn't talk about this problem. 413 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: I just tear let me riff on Aaron Glenn. Sure 414 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: everybody wants him fired. Are you seeing this? 415 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: Yes? 416 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: Now it's early, But what are your initial thoughts? Do 417 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: you fire him? 418 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 3: I would fire him. I don't think they will. 419 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So if you fire him, what's the game plan? 420 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: The game plan is you hired a guy who entire resume. 421 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: Was built on two things. 422 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 4: Number One, I can call defense, and as far as 423 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 4: I know, they're gonna be the first team in ATIL 424 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: history the notord single interception in the season. 425 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: That's number one. 426 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 4: They've been blown out by was it twenty three points 427 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: in every game in the month of December? 428 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: That's number two? 429 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 4: And number three, his reputation was number one to call 430 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 4: a great defense. Number two, I am a culture builder. 431 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 4: That's the one that Mike Tomlin hangs has had on. 432 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 4: Can you think of three teams with the worst culture 433 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 4: in the NFL this season? In the New York Jetchrick. 434 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: Politicians, Well, I mean I don't know that we could 435 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: definitely say they're the worst culture or one of the worst. 436 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: I mean, they traded two of their stars they essentially 437 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: played like seven guys off the practice squad last week 438 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: against the Patriots. It's a soft tang, yeah, and my 439 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: only counter would be so Dan Campbell is a raw 440 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: ra guy. He started out three thirteen and one in Detroit. 441 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: Within three years after drafts and getting his the ship 442 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 2: in order, they were in the NFC Championship Game. I mean, 443 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: I got a bunch of these. Zach Taylor first year 444 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati two and fourteen, I don't even think he's good. 445 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: But two years later he was in the Super Bowl. 446 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: Now he had a quarterback. 447 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, quarterback games and everything. 448 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: Bill waltsh two and fourteen with the forty nine Ers, 449 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: way way way back, within four years dynasty started. You 450 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: got to get that quarterback Chuck Noele one in thirteen 451 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: with the Steelers. Now this is way before Rob g 452 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 2: and I turns that are within four years there on 453 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: top of the world in the NFL. Jimmy Johnson one 454 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: in fifteen in Dallas. I looked at their point differential 455 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: worse than the NFL that year nineteen. I can't remember 456 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: it off the top of my head, but they were 457 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: like by like fifty worst point differential in the league. 458 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: Total disaster within three years Dynasty, it can be done. 459 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm not saying Aaron Glenn as any of those guys. 460 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: I'm definitely not. I have no idea. Jimmy Johnson obviously 461 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: was really good college football coach. Dan Campbell came out 462 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: of nowhere. Guys, Zach Taylor. He may still get tossed, 463 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: but he did. He got up to the super Bowl 464 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: and the playoffs. They got to another I think AFC 465 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: Championship game. So like, we just gotta let things bake. 466 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 2: You got to give guys a chance. I don't know 467 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: if Glen's a guy. My bigger problem, Rob is who 468 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: are you gonna hire? You have to have a plane. 469 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 2: You can't just fire him, and then it looks like, oh, 470 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: we're going through coaches every two years. Who's gonna want 471 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: the job. So if Stefanski gets fired, I make a 472 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: move on him in a heartbeat. If McDaniel gets fired 473 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: from Miami, I'm going in. I know some people are like, Jay, 474 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: you're crazy. If well, Kevin O'Connell's not gonna get fired. 475 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: If somehow he got fired, I'm first in line at 476 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: his door. And there was one other guy who's a 477 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: good offensive mind, who could be in jeopardy. It ain't 478 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, that's for sure. I was thinking Mike McCarthy. 479 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: But we don't have a quarterback. So what's the rush, 480 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: Matt Lare He's. 481 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: Not getting fired. 482 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 4: Look, there are people around Green Bay that are fed 483 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 4: up with him. 484 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: What they're the third seventh seed for the third year 485 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: in a row. 486 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 3: Come back to the problem. That is exactly the problem. 487 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: Wow, Promlin ain't gonna want the job. But yeah, essentially, 488 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: if you're firing an offensive cord and oh the one 489 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: name that I'm interested in is Brian Dable, but you're 490 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 2: not hiring a guy who was just with the Giants. No, 491 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: I don't see that happening. So like, what are we doing? 492 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: Did Jesse Minter? Like? I don't know? Brian Floores? What's that? 493 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what that does. Hey, you know he's 494 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 2: gonna coach him up. Maybe, but why not just keep Glenn. 495 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: I think a lot has to do with the draft order. 496 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: I mean, if the Jets get two, you're definitely getting 497 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 2: a quarterback, then I would be open to firing him 498 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: in getting an offensive guy. If you get three, I 499 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: don't want to say punt on next season. Rob because 500 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: that's goofy. But I would draft a developmental guy. I 501 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: know there's gonna sound as nine as I'm looking at 502 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: my notes. So remember at the beginning of the season, 503 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: everybody had Kid Klubnick as like a super high right 504 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 2: first round pick, top ten. So he shot the bad 505 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: He wasn't great, but then you drill down six two 506 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: ten pounds, turn twenty two. In October thirty nine college starts, 507 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 2: rob I watched a guy Sunday night who was who 508 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: had a million starts in college. He was bally hooted 509 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: as a potential pick, and then the team didn't do 510 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: well and brock Purdy felt like a rock. He went 511 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 2: dead last in the draft. And now he's like a 512 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: top twelve quarterback in the league. Now he has Shanahan, 513 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: but that experience matters. Perty hit the ground running. And 514 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: then the guy Nussmeier at LSU, I don't love him 515 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: at all. He got bench this year. He only he 516 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: turns twenty four in February. Coach's son twenty one starts, 517 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 2: but in five seasons now two of them. He was 518 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: a backup to Jadon Daniels. But like I mean, he 519 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 2: only had twelve touchdowns and eight starts. His numbers are 520 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: a little alarming. But I think those two guys, if 521 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: you're looking for potential brock party, give me experience, give 522 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 2: me somebody who can process, give him all the processed tests, 523 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: figure it out, and then steal one of them in 524 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: the mid rounds. That would be my We don't get 525 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: more or Mendoza. Clearly, I put a lot of thought 526 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 2: into this, but as of today, I'm not firing Glenn. Now, 527 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: if other stuff comes out of that locker room, Rob, 528 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna change my mind, But as of this moment, 529 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to fire the guy. 530 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 531 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 532 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 533 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: listen live. 534 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair. 535 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: And again I don't think they're going to because I 536 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: think that to your original point, I think Woody Johnson 537 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: has been embarrassed enough and I think he thinks that 538 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 4: if he cleans house again, this is just going to 539 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 4: show more dysfunction in the organization. And I'm gonna wait 540 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: and see. I'll tell you what if the draft goes whay, 541 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 4: we think it's going to go and the Jets are 542 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 4: quote unquote on the outside looking in at three. I 543 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 4: could see a situation where Aaron Glenn stays and they 544 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 4: try to find the next like package deal that you 545 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: see nowadays in sports, you don't see as much in football, 546 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: but you do see it. Well, I guess you see 547 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 4: it more. He can college than the NFL. But you 548 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 4: talked about like Kevin O'Connell, you talk about some of 549 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 4: the better offensive minds in football. 550 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: Who's to say that. 551 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 4: You're just like, hey, we're not gonna get one of 552 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: the top two guys, whoever it is. We want to 553 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 4: give Aaron Glenn the chance to win early while also 554 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 4: having some kind of developmental guy at the same time 555 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: at quarterback. Why wouldn't you call up a team like 556 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers and say, we know Matt Lafleur 557 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 4: is not available. He calls all the plays. He's the guy, right, 558 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 4: Let me get your OC, let me get Adam Stavanovich, 559 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 4: and let's bring him Malik Willis to come with him, 560 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: and we just bring that system straight over. Aaron Glenn. 561 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 4: You worry about the defense. These guys worry about the offense. 562 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: And maybe next season we are seven and nine or 563 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 4: seven and ten, eight to nine, whatever, and we're respectable. 564 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 4: And you give the illusion that you have this young 565 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 4: quarterback in Malik Willis. 566 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: So that works for Aaron Glenn and then then he's 567 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: keeping his job. Sure, so the year's this is impossible 568 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: to answer. So Malik Willis started his career in Tennessee 569 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 2: coming out of Liberty. Mike Vrabel barely let him get 570 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: on the field, and when he get on the field, 571 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: he was terrible mm hm, and Rabel said, I'm done 572 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 2: with this guy. We gotta get rid of him. And 573 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: then the GM shipped him. So he goes to Green 574 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 2: Bay and Magic I'm playing for Lafleur. Wouldn't sho know it, 575 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: but Malik will freaking good. So is it Malik will 576 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: it's got better? Or is Lafleur just that guy? I 577 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: don't I don't know the I don't know how you 578 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: figure that out. Is it the OC? Like you you 579 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: mentioned his name. It's weird with some of these some 580 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: of these teams, like I think Packers, I don't know 581 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: who the OC is because it's Lafloor's offense. 582 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: Right yep. 583 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: So it's just know that's the same thing that happened 584 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: with Sean McVay, and we saw Zach Taylor leave and 585 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: gets his quarterback. 586 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: What happens. 587 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 4: I believe Matt Lafleur was under Sean McVay. He leaves, 588 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: he gets his guys. See what happens every guy with 589 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 4: Kyle Shannhan. Kyle Shannan calls all the blaze and somehow 590 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel will ended up being for a hot second, 591 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 4: they're like the greatest offensive mine in the league. 592 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: Well he got two out of the playoffs twice. 593 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 4: Sure, I do so like there's something to be in 594 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: that tree, in that realm where you're around geniuses that 595 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 4: some kind of rubs off on. 596 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, it helps that. I think Shanahan's 597 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: probably the number one guy right at McVeigh would probably 598 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: be two. Who's three? Who do you like? Just sharp 599 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: offensive mind? 600 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: Is it? 601 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: Is it? 602 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: I don't know that it's the little floor. It might 603 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: be Ben Johnson, dude. 604 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: He's really good watching the leap that I like, Kevin O'Connell. 605 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: O'Connell. Yeah, it's probably O'Connell, and O'Connell is definitely a 606 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: McVeigh shanahan disciple. But yeah, like, it just stinks to 607 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: not have one of those amazing offensive minds. You know, 608 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: your Raiders like Buck and then my Jets. You know, 609 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: we're just mired in mediocrity. Here's the funny thing, Rob, 610 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: anytime I say something not positive about a team, their 611 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: fans somehow see it. I guess the four Twitter is 612 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: pushing the for you page a lot. I noticed that 613 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: they give it to you and you don't ask for it, 614 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: which is stupid. And I'm starting to get all these 615 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, who's this guy? And I click it. They 616 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: don't follow me, but they're replying like two minutes after 617 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: I put something out, and most of them know me 618 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: because they're like, yeah, what how are the Jets doing? 619 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: And I'm like, Rob, when did it? Do people think 620 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: that I care about that stuff? Like, I don't know, dude. 621 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: When you're talking NFL with somebody other, they're like, yeah, 622 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: how are your Raiders doing? 623 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: Bro? 624 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: Do they think that's supposed to be like a cutdown? Like, yeah, 625 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: my team sucks, but what about your Raiders? Man? They stink. 626 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: They're a dumpster fire. I'm like, I know, yeah, the 627 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: Jets suck. I'm aware of this. It's not like I'm 628 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: not personally aggrieved. Do you have any teams that you're 629 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: like defensive about? 630 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: Not anymore. 631 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: I guess they used to be like the Lakers, just 632 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 4: because I'm like, how can you diss a team that 633 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 4: won more than every other team in the league ever 634 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 4: and all we do is win? But now I've been 635 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 4: so beaten down as a Raiders fan and a Ucla 636 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 4: football fan. I'm like, yeah, I dide all my team suck. 637 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: Like it's okay. 638 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm fine, UCLA's been down for a minute. The Lakers, 639 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: I guess like kind of understand. 640 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 4: But it was just it was just like I didn't understand. 641 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 4: It's like, bro, you root for the Atlanta Hawks, you 642 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: root for like Denver Nuggets. I mean, we didn't talk 643 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: about Yocha getting down. Hopefully he's okay, but Denver has 644 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 4: one championship ever, and I'm going to hear Nuggets fans 645 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: talk trash to me, like, like, come on, bro. 646 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: Like a the way. Uh yeah, let's wrap up with 647 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: the Yoki cheff. I only saw the video after you 648 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: send it to me. I initially didn't think it looked bad, 649 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: but all the Twitter doctors were freaking out. 650 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's it's it's very serious. 651 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 4: And again, part of it is, if you just watch 652 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: the video, is he's not the most nimble guy to 653 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: begin with. So anytime you see, you know, someone's knee 654 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 4: bend that direction, it doesn't look good. But when you 655 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: see a guy like that bend like that, it really 656 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: makes you nervous because you don't think that he has 657 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 4: this is gonna sound weird, like he doesn't have the 658 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: athleticism to avoid a massive injury like that, like to 659 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 4: avoid the bending whatever direction. And so when you see 660 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 4: it happen, and then you see his response and he's 661 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 4: writhing in pain, and you could tell that he knows it's. 662 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: Something is wrong. 663 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 4: Even though he was able to walk off under his 664 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 4: own power very slowly. You know, you really cross your 665 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 4: fingers and hope that it's just like a bone bruise 666 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 4: or hyper extension or something like that and nothing worse. 667 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, NBA does not need any more injuries. 668 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: I mean, the Celtics are borderline unwatchable. I mean, they're 669 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: fighting a good fight and they're making a rally, but 670 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: they're just not the same without Tatum. I haven't watched 671 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: one quarter of Pacers basketball this season since they have Halliburton. 672 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 2: Who else were the other major injuries? Kyrie Irving has 673 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: been greatly missed. Anthony Davis. I heard an unbelievable stat 674 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: Rob So Anthony Davis pulled his groin on Christmas. It's 675 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: his thirteenth groin pull of his career that sidelined him team. 676 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: What's wrong with this guy? I feel terrible for Ad. 677 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: By the way, ain't nobody training for Ad? You know that? 678 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: I mean there's the news linking him to Atlanta. 679 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: What for Trey Young? 680 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 4: Not even for Trey Young, for like Rishache as the 681 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 4: headliner and then expiring contract. 682 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: They're moving off already. Oh, because they want to make 683 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: a run in the playoffs. I will say it is 684 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: interesting that they'd make a try to make a run Atlanta. 685 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. They're tenth in the East. But they're 686 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: only five and a half games backup three, so it's 687 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: they've still got a shot. Yeah. The Yokich injury would 688 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: be devastating Nuggets. I think they're down to now one starter. 689 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: I mean, they just everybody's hurt for them. It's starting 690 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: to feel like that we haven't talked to NBA in 691 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: a minute. But we don't need to go to the Lakers. Now, 692 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: I'm just it's starting to feel like it's the Spurs 693 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: Thunder if this Jokic thing, if he's out a month, 694 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: I mean, Denver is like a playing team, right, Oh. 695 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean. 696 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 4: And then the other thing is like Houston. Houston's talked 697 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: about as one of those inner circle championship contenders. Last 698 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 4: I checked, I think they were still like fifth or 699 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 4: sixth in the West. 700 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: They're currently tied with the Lakers at four, right, and 701 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: so yeah, so like it's kind of fluid, but it 702 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: just goes to tell you that, yeah, as good as 703 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: some of these teams are, like you mentioned, all of 704 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: a sudden, san Antonio is a contender. It's like unless 705 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: you are okay, so you've got off to such a 706 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: hot start, if you have a bad week or a 707 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: bad two weeks, you could totally fall into the plane, 708 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: Like yeah, immediately, there's just not a lot of room 709 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 2: for error, especially in the West. The East is really 710 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: hangouts right now. It's like it's it's bad. So, uh, 711 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: prayers up to Jokich, hope he's better, you know. Ideally, 712 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: it's just a hyper extent. That's what it looked like 713 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: to me, now, if there's like you know, acl or 714 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 2: something that's brutal, and then then you start to wonder, well, 715 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: holy cal you know Jokic, he's a heavy guy, he's 716 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: you know what is he thirty? I don't know how 717 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: he comes back, you know, if it's a major injury. 718 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: So hopefully Yokich is all right. But that that was 719 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: a bit scary when he went down. I've never seen 720 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: him stay down for that long, you know. No, Yeah, 721 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: tough one for Yokic. 722 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: All Right, we're back. 723 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: I think tomorrow might be our last one of the year, 724 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: just simply because nobody's working this week. When I wait 725 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 2: up in the morning and I checked traffic to work 726 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: and it's like an under thirty minute drive, I realize 727 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 2: nobody's working. So I don't know, robill check the downloads. 728 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: If the downloads are up, probably podcasts. If they're not, 729 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: it's like, hey, you guys are taking time off. Hang 730 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: with your family much respect. See tomorrow.