1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: When you see Kanye and his wife and you see 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: how she's dressing, is that she's dressing like that or 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Kanye dressing her? 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: What Conny is for sure dressing her like that. Yeah, 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: this is the same thing to me and Kim. He 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: wants other men to want his woman. That's what he's into. 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: He likes that. 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 4: All my Life, Grinding All my Life, Shockri Fights, Hustle, 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 4: Pe Price, Wanta, slicet the Brow, All my Light, Poppy 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 4: grinding all my life, All my life, grinning all my Light, 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 4: Shockri Fights, Hustle, Pet Price, one Slice, Got the bronc 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 4: geis Swap All my Life, Poppy, Grinding All my Life. 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to another episode of Club sha Shay. I 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriet of 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: Club Shahe and today we're at Spotlight La stopping by 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: for conversation and a drink. 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 5: Today. 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: Is a polar a polarizing figure in the entertainment business 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: for almost two decades and unapologetic personality. A confident model, 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: a bold business woman, a recognizable media figure, a multi 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: talented activist, actress, influencer, TV hosts, author, and a mother. 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: Here she is ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only, 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Miss amber Rose. 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much. 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 5: Thank you for stopping by. 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: I know you're very busy, a young lady, young mother, 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: and uh I want to say thank you again for 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: stopping by. 29 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 30 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 5: I would like to toast. 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: I know you don't drink much, but you told me, 32 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: say Shanna, I don't drink much, but I want to 33 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: try this. 34 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: I do so everyone Ransom raves about this, by the way, to. 35 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 5: All your all you've done and all you'll continue to do. 36 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: Thank you, baby, well, thank you so much. Ooh some 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: special you got right? God, damn. 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: You don't we tell you? 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, listen, if I drink that, you're 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: gonna know all my business. 41 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: Well again, thank you for stopping by. 42 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: Of course, born and raised in South Yes, growing up 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: in South Philly, what did Amberoads want to be when she. 44 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 5: Was a little girl. 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: I wanted to be an epidemiologist. 46 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 5: Okay, I. 47 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 2: I had a there was a guy in my neighborhood 48 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 2: that was dying of AIDS in the nineties. 49 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 3: And I didn't know what it was at the time. 50 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: I would talk to my mom. 51 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: And I know this might sound crazy, but watching his 52 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: body deteriorate over a. 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: Month or so. 54 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: I became obsessed with HIV and AIDS and I would 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: be in my room and just think of being on. 56 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 3: The forefront of a cure like that. 57 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: Those were my dreams and aspirations and like just being 58 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: in a lab and you know, people celebrating when I 59 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: found the cure, Like that's the stuff that I used 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: to imagine when I would just be in my room 61 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: and yeah, and I just I was just obsessed with 62 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: like infectious diseases and I wanted to know everything about them, 63 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: and still to this day. I mean even when COVID 64 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: came out, I was kind of excited because I was like, 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: what is this? 66 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 1: You know, did you understand what AIDS was and how 67 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: it came about? 68 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: Not initially no, but it was it was the fact 69 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: that he was full of life. And then within two months, 70 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he was a young man and he was 71 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: he had a cane, right, And I asked my mom 72 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: like is this like is it cancer? 73 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: Like what is it? And then she told me and 74 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: I was like, what is that? 75 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: It happened so fast that I just became fascinated with it. 76 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: And you know, now in modern day there's medicines and 77 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: stuff like that, and people can live a long, healthy 78 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: life with HIV. But you know, back in the nineties, 79 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: it wasn't like that. Yeah, so yeah, I just became 80 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: fascinated with it. And that's how I was like, I 81 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: want to be like doctor Fauci. 82 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Like, you know, what was your what was your fondest 83 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: memory of your childhood? If you can go back and 84 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: think about when you're being raised in South Philly. 85 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 5: I don't know how many sailings, how many brothers and 86 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: sisters do you have? 87 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: So I'm the only child from my mom and then 88 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm fourteen years older than my little brother's okay, from 89 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: my father's side. 90 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: But you had you actually, you had friends in the neighborhood. 91 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: So what's your fondest memory of being in South Bailly? 92 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: I would say. 93 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: I miss I miss being liked for who I am. 94 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: I miss that because people gave. 95 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: Me a chance back then and they were like, oh, 96 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: Amber's cool with shit, Let's go play double Dutch, or 97 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: let's you know, go to the park, or let's go 98 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: hang out. And I just feel like nowadays, it's just 99 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: it's just not that simple anymore. 100 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: So I miss I missed those times. 101 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: Where life was simple, or like going to the corner store. 102 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: I got a dollar, I'm getting to scratch off. I'm 103 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: hoping I'm a win twenty houses so I can eat, 104 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: you know, like get some good that day to eat 105 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: and the excitement of actually wanting things and being around 106 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: genuine people. 107 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: That's what I miss the most. 108 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 5: You feel you get judged by the cover now, huh? 109 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: For sure? 110 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: Like my persona and who I am as a person 111 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 2: is completely different. 112 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're nothing like what people when people see Amber roll. 113 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: If you're nothing like that, I am the complete I 114 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: couldn't be more opposite. 115 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't be more I'm just a nerd. I 116 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: like to learn. I like to I like to be 117 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: around people that can teach me things. 118 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: And I think I just got pigeon held into a 119 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: persona that made me money to support my family. 120 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: You know, when obviously you didn't have siblings, but when 121 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: you did you have friends? Were you friendly? Were you 122 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: like where your tomboy? Were you girly girl? Did you 123 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: have like Amber school, let's go play with her things 124 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: like that? So what kind of like what did you 125 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: do as a child? 126 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was definitely loved. 127 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: I feel like I always had a good personality. I'm 128 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: very easy going. I'm a bit introverted, but I think 129 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: like people think I come off as a bitch because 130 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: I'm introverted, when you know, I do you know, like 131 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: I came in here and I said hi to everyone. 132 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: I am that person. But I only give the energy 133 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: that people give me. So if I walk into a 134 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: room and that energy is not positive, I'm probably just 135 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: gonna be quiet and just chill and not really say much. 136 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: But I definitely was loved. I had a lot of friends, 137 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: and I was a tomboy as well. I played softball. Okay, yeah, 138 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm a softball girl. I would play wall ball with 139 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: the boys, stickball in the street with like the half 140 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: of tennis ball, you know, just real East Coast street 141 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: games with the boys and stuff. 142 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: But I was always feminine. But I'll play with the boys, right. Yeah. 143 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 5: So how was your mom? 144 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: How was was she a disciplinarian and did she let 145 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: you kind of like do what you wanted to do? 146 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: What was the relationship was the dynamic between you and 147 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: your mom? 148 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: Well it's tough because, like my mom's mom committed suicide 149 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 2: when she was ten, and so my mom suffered severely 150 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: from anxiety and depression most of my life. 151 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: And so no, she wasn't a disciplinary. 152 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: I feel like like I became her mom at a 153 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: very young age, and I had to raise her and say, Mom, 154 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: everything's going to be okay. You know, it's okay to cry, 155 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: or how can I help you? Or what can I do? So, yeah, 156 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 2: it's it's like almost like I became a mom at 157 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: a young age. 158 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: That's what I was about to ask. And I'm not 159 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: trying to take a shot at your mom, but did 160 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: you feel you had to raise yourself? 161 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: I did, and I would say for many many years 162 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: I resented my mom for that. But as I got older, 163 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: I understood that being ten years old and seeing your 164 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: mom commit suicide is is definitely not easy to live with, 165 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: you know, and my mom suffered. 166 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: She suffered for many years. 167 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: You resent the fact that you didn't really get a 168 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: chance to be a child, You didn't get a chance 169 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: to do things that you saw a lot of the 170 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: other kids your age get an opportunity to do because 171 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: you were being there. You were being there for your 172 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: mom when normally moms are there for their. 173 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: Kid, right. 174 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So like even when I had chials and tribulations 175 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: in my life. 176 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: I felt like that I couldn't burden my mom. 177 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: With those things, and I had to just suck it 178 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: up and be a g and just deal with it 179 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: because I already knew that she had a lot on 180 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: her plate emotionally that I didn't want to add to that, 181 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: and so I just would just internalize it or deal 182 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: with it by myself. 183 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: When you when you got to high school, were you 184 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: a popular kid? Very so you weren't like superlyve so 185 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: most likely to succeed, best body, wittiest, best personality, so 186 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: you wanted to so you were like you were that 187 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: that girl? You were that girl. 188 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: I definitely was popular when I got to high school, 189 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: for sure. My boyfriend was like the head of the basketball. Okay, 190 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: you know it was god vibe. 191 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, So obviously it's hard looking at you naesthetically. Were 192 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: girls jealous of you back then? 193 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: I mean yes and no. 194 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: Again, I had a lot of friends, but like the 195 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: culture in Philly, it's. 196 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: Like I don't like your dress. 197 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: I want to fight you, and then you gotta be like, fuck, 198 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: I gotta fight this girl, like you know, or it 199 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: would just be like me you three o'clock, you up? 200 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: And then in school you'd be like, it's twelve o'clock. 201 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: You just know you gotta fight this at three, you know, 202 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, so like I never started fights, 203 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: but I always had a fight, like for no reason 204 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: at all. 205 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 5: I mean, you a girly girl or were you tomboys girl? 206 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: I was a girly girl, but I like sports, okay, 207 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: So I was around the boys a lot, and the 208 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: girls would be like, you know, they would think like 209 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: their boyfriend or like somebody that they liked like me. 210 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: But mind you, I'm I'm just like, I'm chilling. 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Okay, but my dad just a 257 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: poor white boy in Philly, grew up in foster care. 258 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: His mom didn't really love him. 259 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: He never knew his dad, and so when my mom 260 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: got pregnant, he was like, I mean, the only option 261 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: I have is to join the military. So he joined 262 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: the military at nineteen and they ship my dad off. 263 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: So most of my life my dad was gone serving 264 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: our country. But it wasn't an ideal situation because I 265 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: was mostly with my mom taking care of her, like 266 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: mentally and emotionally. 267 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 5: So do you hunger? 268 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: How much do you know about your dad because you said, 269 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: like nineteen, your mom got pregnant, he goes to the 270 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: military to help support you. So are you were you 271 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: familiar with your dad? What type of relationship did you 272 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: have with your other? 273 00:12:59,040 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 4: Yeah? 274 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: I mean you got to think I'm forty one years old, right, 275 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: so this is the nineties. Yes, So you can't just 276 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: get on FaceTime when my dad's in Iraq. 277 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,359 Speaker 3: You know, you gotta. 278 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: Wait for a letter, wait till you can he can 279 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: get to a phone to call me, and hopefully I'm home. 280 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: With the time difference, I might be at school, I 281 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: miss the phone call or whatever. It wasn't that easy 282 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 2: to stay in touch with him. But my dad loved me. 283 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: He always loved me. It's just the circumstances up. But 284 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 2: me and my father are closer than ever now. 285 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 5: Really. 286 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, did your mom ever say anything negative about your 287 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: dad that he left and went to the military, that 288 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: he wasn't there to help help her with you or 289 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: did you understand the situation? 290 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: My mom spoke very negatively about my dad. Yeah, she did. Sorry, mom, 291 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 3: this is my story. 292 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: I got to tell my school, okay, and I love 293 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: my mom and again and now that I'm older, I 294 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: do understand a lot more. Yeah, my mom would be 295 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: like that motherfucker, don't come around. 296 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: He da da da dah this and that. 297 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: And now that I'm older, my dad's like, yo, I 298 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: can't just leave Panama. I'm writing with Noriega, like I 299 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: can't just get up and come. You know. It's a 300 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: different time. And so now I do understand that dynamic. 301 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: And I feel like maybe my mom didn't understand that 302 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: right back in the day, you know, and maybe she 303 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: understands it now. I haven't had a conversation with her 304 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: about that. But for me, Shannon, I like to just 305 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: move forward and just let's shit go. 306 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to dwell on all that stuff. 307 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: You know. 308 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: I've had resentment towards my dad initially, then I had 309 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: resentment towards my mom later, and I just feel I'd 310 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: just been in survival mode my whole life. And I'm tired. 311 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: I really am tired because I become famous and I'm 312 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: still in survival mode, you know, So yes, all the time, 313 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: every day day. I just I mean, I just wish 314 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: someday I could just I don't know, you seem tired, 315 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: take a break. 316 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been fighting you feel you've been fighting your 317 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: entire life and you just want I don't want to 318 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: fight anymore. I had to fight girls when I was 319 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: growing up. I had to take care of my mom. 320 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: I had to fight, fight, fight, fight. 321 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 5: Just one day. I just want to I just want 322 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 5: to rely, just want to decompress. 323 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, imagine you're young. Excuse me, you're the only child. 324 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: My stepfather was an alcoholic, so he would, you know, 325 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: he would go on binges for weeks at a time, 326 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: come back and I would get you know, I grew 327 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: up in a one bedroom apartment with my mom one bathroom, 328 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: you know, we were poor, and I would get up 329 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: in the middle of the night to use the bathroom 330 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: and he would just be drunk on the toilet, passed out, 331 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: just like that. And it's like, I gotta do what 332 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: I gotta do to get out of here, you know. 333 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: And I started very young, thinking like taking the train 334 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: up to New York, trying to make connections, try to 335 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: get signed to modeling agencies, just trying to do everything 336 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: I can to make enough money to get out. 337 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 5: So is this where the exotic dancing came in at? 338 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely so. 339 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 5: I mean I think I'm started at fifteen. 340 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: Well, I yes, that was the first time I danced. 341 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: I was fifteen years old, and granted my parents did 342 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: not know. 343 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: Of course, how do you pull that off? Because don't 344 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: they normally? I d or, man, you just look very 345 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: mature for your age. 346 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: Well, I just went to the check cash and place 347 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: and just got a fake ID. Like it was just like. 348 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: They're giving out fake id's okay, I'm on my way. 349 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: Like it was like, you know, but I'll be honest. 350 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: I used to like, I used to like weigh crack 351 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: rocks for this drug deal. I'm not gonna mention his name, 352 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: but I used to weigh the crack and I in 353 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: bags and I said, he used to throw me money. 354 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: But then I went to him, I'm like, I have 355 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: to make more money because me and my mom became 356 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: homeless because my stepfather was a construction worker but also 357 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 2: an alcoholic. 358 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 5: So he would they missed too many Mondays or they 359 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 5: gonna let you go. 360 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he would do like he would do estimates 361 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: all around these neighborhoods and then he wouldn't finish the job. 362 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: Oh you know, So then he would take the money 363 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: and go get drunk or whatever. And we got evicted 364 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: when I was like fifteen years old and I had 365 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: nowhere to go, so I started staying at my friend's house. 366 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 2: But then her mom was like, you need to put 367 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: up some money for food, and I'm like, I don't 368 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: have no money, right, I'm fifteen years old, don't have 369 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: no money. So I would like sometimes I would get 370 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: like fifty cent or like a quarter or something. I 371 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: go get a chicken wing for a corner at the 372 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: corner of Chinese store. I get a chicken wing or something, 373 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: maybe some fried rice if I had like a dollar 374 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: fifty or something. But yeah, so we got evicted and 375 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: then Shannon I tried to sell crack bro I tried. 376 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: I did it for like two hours, and I was 377 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: so scared. 378 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: Dealing with these people. 379 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can imagine. 380 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: And I was like, yo, I cannot do this. I can't. 381 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: I want them Like. 382 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: In my mind, I'm like, you see the money I 383 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: meant surviving. 384 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to get out. 385 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure my life out and I'm young 386 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: and I don't have no family, right, so you know. 387 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: Then I ran into some girls and they were like, 388 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: you're pretty, you can come make money over here, and 389 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: it just was not my personality at all, and I 390 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: just I felt like, what else am I going to do? 391 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: I can't go work at McDonald's, but it's not enough money. 392 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 5: So let me ask give you this. 393 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: I had cash doll on and she said when she 394 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: first I think she was in her teens. Also when 395 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: she first started, what is the mindset that you have 396 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: to get in to go do that? Because she said, hey, 397 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: I had to take a couple of shots get my 398 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: mind right to know that all of a sudden, I 399 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: have to take my clothes off in front of strange man. 400 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: Taking your clothes off in front of your man is 401 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: one thing. Taking your clothes off in a building everybody 402 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: watching is something entirely different. So what was the mindset 403 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: that amber Rose had to get in and says, you're 404 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen at this time, what was the mindset that 405 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: you had to go to to say if I can 406 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: do this. 407 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: I didn't even think about it, Shannon. I just knew 408 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: that I had to make money to eat, get my 409 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: mom an apartment, and figure it out. I never drank. 410 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: I never did a drug in my life. To this day, 411 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: I've never tried coke Molly. People would be like, how 412 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: did you marry? 413 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 3: What's khalif? 414 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: And you never smoke weed? I don't smoke weed. I 415 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 2: just was a laser focused. 416 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: On making money. And I don't know where cash all. 417 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: Worked, but where I worked, it was only topless. Okay, okay, 418 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: so it wasn't I've never danced nude. 419 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: Oh okay. 420 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 5: So you kept the bottom. 421 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: Zone, yes, okay, kept the bottoms on, so it was 422 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: just topless. I was like, I mean, once you see 423 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: a pair of titties, you've seen them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 424 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: yeah yeah yah yeah, I don't know if you. 425 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 5: Did yeah, I think football. 426 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, never. I've never danced nude ever, no never. 427 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 3: So yeah. 428 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: So it's like once you get into the dressing room 429 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: with the girls and everyone has there, yeah, you're just 430 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: you become desensitized. 431 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 3: You're like, it's really not a big deal. 432 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: It's not like a huge reveal where the guys are like, 433 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: oh my god, it's you know, so did you. 434 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: Make a lot of money? You make good? 435 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean so, so your first night working you go 436 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: in there, You're like, Okay, I got to do this. 437 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: There is no other option. I don't have any family. 438 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: I can lean on my mom, really needs me to 439 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: come through. You're fifteen, sixteen years of age. How much 440 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: money did you make the first night? And were you 441 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: hooked from that point on? 442 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: Thirty three dollars, I'll never forget three. 443 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 5: You about have came up better going to McDonald's. 444 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 3: I know, I know, three dollars, yes. 445 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: Well, how much was the dance? A dollar? 446 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: I didn't do no dances. I was too scared. I 447 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: was too scared, Shannon. I just was not that girl. 448 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: I felt like I had to be there and I 449 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: went on stage and this was one. 450 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: Of those It was it more of a gentleman's club, 451 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: like a make a ring club. 452 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 453 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the guys was like giving me little one. 454 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 5: Yes, they talking a buck, Yeah, took a buck. 455 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: I made thirty three dollars, thirty three. 456 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I'll never forget the number, because I was like, 457 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: at least I get to eat. 458 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 459 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, You're like, ok, if you make thirty three dollars, now, 460 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: that's not a big incentive, am, But to come back 461 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: the next night. I'm just saying, I just see if 462 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: you made a five or you made five hundred, you 463 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: made two fifty, yeah, thousand dollars. Absolutely, I'm coming back 464 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: thirty three dollars. But somehow you're like, I got to 465 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: go back. 466 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I even got junks and everything at the club for. 467 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: Thirty three dollars. 468 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: Not that nice, okay, but I got so they took 469 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: your money. Hell no, they didn't take my money. Okay, No, 470 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: they didn't take my money. 471 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: So why would you get jumped because you order you 472 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: the prettiest girl in the club. 473 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: I got jumped because there was stages, right, and you 474 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: know when you get called to stage, then you got 475 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: to go to the next stage and a new girl 476 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: comes up and it's like a rotation. Yes, so I 477 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: this girl went up before me, and she was doing 478 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: all these tricks and splits and stuff like that. And 479 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: I was never that dancer. I was always very sensual 480 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: and sexy. That's the type of dancer I was. So 481 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: she got up and I think they were like Africans, 482 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, and they just had stacks and 483 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: stacks and stacks of money at this one stage, Shannon, 484 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: they didn't. 485 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: Give her a dollar. They didn't give this girl a dollar. 486 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 2: So it was my turn to get on stage, and 487 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: it was a tsunami as soon as I stepped foot 488 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: on that stage. It was crazy and she got mad 489 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: at me. What and she is so she so she 490 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: was bullying me and then we go into the dressing 491 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: room and she's like, mm hmm, I want to think they. 492 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: Better they cute. 493 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: Just I was like, girl, you're obviously talking about me, Like, 494 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 2: just say it to me, right. I was in the Bronx. 495 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: I was like, who's rendezvous at the time, and uh. 496 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: One of her friends was like, don't talk to her 497 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: like that. And I'm like, oh, are about the jump, 498 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: you know? And then I said, you know, you shut 499 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: it up because I felt like if I don't you know, 500 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm from Philly. If I don't do this, I can't 501 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: come back and make money, I can't let these bully me, 502 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: you know. 503 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: And then yeah, they wind up jumping me. But the 504 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: girl that started everything didn't even jump in. We didn't 505 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: even fight. It was it was her friends that jumped 506 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 3: me in what was. 507 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 5: Your stage name? 508 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: Paris coming to the stage all the way from Philly. 509 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: Let's give it up for Paris. 510 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: You know, I was Paris before Paris Hillton. 511 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 2: He's gonna say that, yeah, because I was like, I'm 512 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 2: gonna be Paris. 513 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 5: So you so, how long how long were your exotic dancer? 514 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: So? 515 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 3: Oh god, probably five seven years? 516 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: Five years. But so you had to be making some 517 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: good money, did you after why? 518 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I was. 519 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: You was the girl that they came back. They requested, man, 520 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: where's Paris? I'm looking for Paris? 521 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: Exactly? 522 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: So were you like, how many nights a week would 523 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: you work? Two nights a week, three nights a week, 524 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: five nights. 525 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: I would work all the time. Sometimes I'll do doubles, 526 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: sometimes I'll do day shifts. 527 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: Really yeah, I mean normally the girls that day shift. 528 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: They don't be like that now exactly. 529 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: Why make money? Yeah, you're the baddest breaking the powerm 530 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah. 531 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: Because you know, like the businessmen will come on their 532 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 2: lunch break. Yeah, and yeah, I would make I would 533 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: make money. 534 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 5: You get an apartment? You're doing well? 535 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 536 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: Did you know, like, I'm just doing this temporarily. This 537 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: is not gonna I'm not going to make this a career. 538 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: So what was your thought? PROB said, So what would you? 539 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: Did you have an exit plan? 540 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: I did, so. 541 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: I moved to New York. Well, so when I was 542 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: going up to New York and I was trying to 543 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 2: get signed to a modeling agency. And what's crazy is. 544 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 3: That Channing Tatum before he was famous. 545 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so we both weren't famous, but he was like 546 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: dating some girl that I knew and we all became 547 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: friends or whatever. 548 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 3: And he was an exotic dancer. 549 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: So I was like, chan can you get me some 550 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: appointments up in New York. I'm tall, I'm slim at 551 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: the time, and I had kids and now I filled 552 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: out a little bit. So I'm like, can you give 553 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: me some appointments at modeling agencies? And he was like 554 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: of course. So I would go up there and I 555 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: had hair at the time, and they were like, no, no, no, girl, 556 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: You're never going to be a model. It's never going 557 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: to happen for you. And make a very long story short. 558 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 2: I went back to Philly and I was like, you know, okay, 559 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: I'm a pretty girl, but all the girls are pretty 560 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 2: that are going up there, They're all beautiful girls. How 561 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: can I stand out? And I went to the barbershop 562 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: and I said, just go down the middle. I don't care, 563 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 2: just shave this off. Really, yes, you cut. 564 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: All the I'm assuming because you're biracial, your father's while 565 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: your mom is black. Correct, Yes, So I'm I'm I'm 566 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm assuming, and I am I have a lot of hair. 567 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 5: Forgive me for being presumptuous. Those gorgeous locks. 568 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 3: You just shaved them, shaved it off, shaved it off. 569 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: And I said, you know what, I don't because I 570 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: used to put my hair in a ponytail, a low ponytail, 571 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 2: and look from the side and I was say, it 572 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 2: kind of. 573 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: Looks like I have a nice shaped head. 574 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, you definitely have. You definitely have the 575 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: head that you can pull it off. 576 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 3: Thank you. 577 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: So you know, I took a gamble and and I won, 578 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: and I got signed to Ford Models out of New York. 579 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: But I wasn't a famous model. I was just I 580 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: just got signed, so I still wasn't like this famous model. 581 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: I still had to work, started to make money. 582 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: I was sending money back to Philly for my mom. 583 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 3: And I just tried everything. And then oh and then 584 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: this lady. 585 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: Comes into SU's rendezvous and she's like, you should do 586 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: music videos, damn. And I was like, I'm a real model. 587 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: I'm not doing. 588 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: Just my ego right. 589 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: Talking okay, And she was like, no, it's all expenses 590 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: paid and you get paid like one thousand dollars and 591 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 2: you get like a pre damn to eat and you know, 592 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: get a hotel and everything. So I was like, get 593 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 2: I'll do it. And then my first video was a 594 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: young jeezy I put on from my city. 595 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: Wow. 596 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I had hair because I would like wear 597 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 2: hair to the strip club because when I modeled, I 598 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: was ballheaded. 599 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: Oh okay, So so at what age did you cut 600 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: your hair? Eighteen eighteen? And so this is kind of 601 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: the look that you've had since you were eighteen, twenty 602 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: two years, since twenty two years. Yeah, you don't miss it. 603 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: I do. 604 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 5: You're gonna let it grow back? 605 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: You're not, probably not, probably not. I don't. 606 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: You know. 607 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: It's just like it's. 608 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 5: Your look now. I mean it's kind of like you 609 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 5: see Amber Rolle. 610 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: You expect to see the low haircut and I don't 611 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: want to say ball here, but you expect to see 612 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: this one. 613 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. I throw a wig 614 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: on everything. But you know what it's like, I almost 615 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: look worse with like wigs. It's so weird. 616 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 5: People recognize you with a wig. 617 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 3: They do. They'll be like, girl, if you don't take 618 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: that wig off. 619 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: Okay, the lady comes in she says, you know what 620 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: you ought to do. 621 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 5: You ought to do music videos. 622 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm a real model, but anyway, you give 623 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: it a try, you do it for a thousand dollars. 624 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: And then yes, so I do that, and then she 625 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: calls me back for another Young Jeezy video vacation, but 626 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: again at the strip club. 627 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: I'm wearing a wig. 628 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: So then she calls me back for a Ludacris and 629 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: Chris Brown video. I know what them girls like and 630 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: I said, well, her name is Margot. 631 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: Shout out to Margo. 632 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: I said, Margo, you know I got like this buzz 633 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: cut underneath this wig I've been wearing. Do you think 634 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: like maybe the next video I do, like I can 635 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: rock my short haircut. And she was like video girls 636 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: don't have short haircuts. Amber like, it's just not a thing, right, 637 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: And I said, well, can I just send a picture 638 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: maybe maybe they might try it, you know. So she 639 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: sent it to Chris Robinson, the video director, and he's like, yo. 640 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: Fly her out. 641 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: And I became one of the main girls in that video. 642 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: It was my first time in LA so I was 643 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: really excited and that video is really what changed my life. 644 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I read you once got paid one hundred 645 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. 646 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 5: For a music video? Is that true? No, what's the 647 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 5: most you ever made in the music video? 648 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: Twenty five thousand? 649 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 5: Is that normal or was that excessive? 650 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: Well, I was already famous. 651 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: I think Future gave me twenty five thousand, or mask Off, 652 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: I think he gave me twenty five thousand. Yeah, and 653 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: then I think I did fabulous his music video. You'd 654 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: be killing them. I think he gave me like fifteen thousand. 655 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: But really, at that time, I just thought it was cool, 656 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: Like they were like my home music say. 657 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all come through and do a video. 658 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: It's not a problem because I did music videos with Future, 659 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj's Young, j Z, fam Luda Breezey, Kanye Wherez 660 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: and Mary Mary two of these guys. You end up 661 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that. What's your best experience in 662 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: the music video? So just meeting the guys and like, damn, 663 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: they really cool. 664 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. 665 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: I was very surprised with Future because he comes off 666 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: very toxic, but like we haven't seen where. We're like 667 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: in the car, like driving together, and he's just a 668 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: really nice, well spoken guy. Like I could see why 669 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: girls date Future, okay, because I'll see it online and 670 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: they'll be like, girl, you dan in future, you know 671 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: how future. But when I did this video with him, 672 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: I was like, he's actually really nice. And you know, 673 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: my friend China dated him, right, But yeah, he's just 674 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: a well spoken, very professional, nice guy. 675 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 5: What's the worst part of doing music videos? 676 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm when I come on set, I'm very professional. I'm 677 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: not drinking, I'm not doing nothing. I'm waiting for my 678 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: turn or waiting. 679 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: To get called. That's just that's just how I move. 680 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: So I've always had a pleasant experience. 681 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: So what is there anything that people their perception of 682 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: music videos that's not reality? 683 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 5: What? 684 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: What? 685 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 5: What? 686 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: What does the public don't get about music videos? 687 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: I think it depends on the artist. 688 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, because again, Chris Brown, Young, Geezy, Future, fabulous, 689 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: they were all very professional with everybody that was there, 690 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: so I didn't have a bad experience. I can't speak 691 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: for other artists, you know, I don't know what they 692 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: do on set, but these guys were always great. 693 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 5: I read. 694 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true or not that Nicki 695 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: Minaj helped you get your following me up by shouting 696 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: you out that you got gained like a ton of followers. 697 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I called her and I said, girl, I 698 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: needed I just signed up for Twitter. Can you give 699 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: me a shout out? And she was like hell yeah, 700 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: and then she did it. I was just went at 701 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: Nikki's house the other day. Yeah, we're still We're still 702 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: good friends, you know. 703 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 5: So you got a cool relationship with her, Yes. 704 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, video Vixen's that's is that the m that's the 705 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: term that some of you, some of you young ladies get. 706 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: You look at Melissa Ford and Karen Stephen's and Buffy 707 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: the Body, Gloria Bellez, Black China, Eric Manena. 708 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 5: Is that a? Is that an enduring term? Or you're like, 709 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 5: now we end up we just well. 710 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: That's a part of my resume. Okay, I'm not a 711 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: video of Vixen now, but I was. 712 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: I was. Yeah, and it was a fun time really yeah, 713 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: hell yeah it was fun. 714 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 5: Did you did you work with any of these ones 715 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 5: that I mentioned? 716 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: I did not. I haven't had the pleasure. Now, wow, 717 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: would you do a little before my time? 718 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 5: Okay? 719 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah I came after those girls. 720 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, my bad. 721 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: Uh oh not just playing, No, shade to the girls. 722 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I didn't mean it like that. 723 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that they're a general They're like with 724 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: Cisco and like I was still young with like Drew 725 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: Hill and Cisco and stuff like that. 726 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: I read that John Legend said that I sat down 727 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: with John Legend as a matter of fact, this very 728 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: building here, and it was talking about that he had 729 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: a shot a video. 730 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 5: That's how he ended up meeting his wife, Christy Tigan. 731 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: Obviously you went on a video a couple of video 732 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: shoots and you ended up meeting your future partners. Is 733 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: that when you go on the shoot, you was like, 734 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm keeping it professional, yes, or at least you try to. 735 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: Is that the goal of some women like go on 736 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: decess and maybe try to get with the guy. 737 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: That's I'm sure women do that. 738 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure plenty of women do that. That's personally not me. 739 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: But it's crazy because you're referring to Kanye when I 740 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: did his video. Yes, okay, well he flew me out 741 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: to do RoboCop video because he was like, you look 742 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: like a robot. I think this would be cool, right, 743 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: And I said absolutely, I'll doube. You're Kanye West. Of 744 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: course I'll come out shoot the video. It would be 745 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: an honor. And I come out and shoot the I'm sorry. 746 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 3: I go to LA and we're like hanging out. 747 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: That night, i meet him and he's on another video 748 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 2: set and I'm like, okay, so what time should. 749 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 3: I be ready? Tomorrow morning? Is the cardon? 750 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: You know? So I'm so used to like these other 751 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: videos I've done before that, and he's like, no, not 752 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 2: just chill. We're going to figure it out. 753 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 3: I'll just you know. So I'm like okay. 754 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: So then a day goes by, Then another day goes by, 755 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: we're going out to dinners. 756 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: Oh we're going We're going like, you know, you're. 757 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: Doing everything but shooting the video, and yes, I'm doing everything. 758 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 3: We're shooting a video. 759 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: Some like Kanye, you know, like only like one outfit, 760 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: because that's what I was used to. You flying, you 761 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: do the video, you have an outfit to get back 762 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 2: on the airplane and go home. He's like, you don't 763 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: need no outfit. Don't even worry about it. I got you. 764 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: So I'm like okay. 765 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: So then he's so then we go out to dinner 766 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: and he this is like the fourth fifth day I'm 767 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 2: there and he's like, hey, do you want to I 768 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: know this is crazy, but do you want to come 769 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: to the Grammys with me? And I was like, oh 770 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: my god, yes, like this, you know it sounds fun. 771 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 2: So we went to the Grammys and then you know me, 772 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm so young, Shannon, I'm like, are we 773 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: still doing this video? I did not realize I got 774 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: flown out. 775 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: O hell, I'm sitting here. I didn't realize you got flown. 776 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: I was so green. 777 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that he really flew me out because 778 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 2: he saw me in the ideo right and you know, hot, 779 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: and then he flew me out. 780 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 3: But I didn't know. 781 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: Were you at the video when he jumped on the 782 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: stage with Taylor? 783 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 3: Yes, you called that. I did not. I did not 784 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 3: call that. 785 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question. Okay, day one 786 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: go by, you're in shoot no video. Day two go by. 787 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: He like, Bro, I understand, we going to dinner things, 788 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: but Bro, I need to make money. Did you ever 789 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: did that? Thought like, hold on, I'm not here and 790 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm going to these nice restaurants, but that 791 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: ain't putting no money in my pocket. 792 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: Well you have to think, Shannon, like it's still Kanye West, 793 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: and he's very nice to me, and he's not being 794 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: fresh with me or nothing, being very respectful and nice. 795 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 5: See that's that nineties talking fresh. 796 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 797 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 2: So like he you know, he was. He was very charming. 798 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: So I was having a good time. But once I realized, 799 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 2: you know, so anyway, we go to the Grammy, Right, 800 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: I called my mom. I said, Mom, Kanye invited me 801 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: to the Grammys. Like I just I'm flabbergasted. I don't know, 802 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 2: Like she's like, baby, just go have a good time, 803 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. 804 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 3: So little did I know. 805 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 2: The same day I called my mom was the same 806 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: day my aunt died. It was my favorite person in 807 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: the whole world. It's my mom's sister, right, and she 808 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 2: died of an overdose. But so I call Kanye because 809 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 2: I'm at the hotel and I guess he's at home, 810 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm. 811 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 3: Sorry, I have to leave. 812 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 2: I have to go back to Philly and my aunt died, 813 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: and he was like, I'll go with you. 814 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 3: I'll come with you. I don't care. And I was like, 815 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: I'm like. 816 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: Kanye, you can't come with me because the funeral is 817 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 2: going to be all about you being there. Let me 818 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: just go handle my stuff. I'll just call you. And 819 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 2: he's like, okay, okay. So I go and I go 820 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: to my aunt's funeral and he's checking on me every hour, Shannon, 821 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: every hour's checking on me. 822 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 3: And mind you this. 823 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: We didn't have sex, we didn't kiss, we didn't hug, 824 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 2: we didn't do nothing. Like I flew out to do 825 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: a music video. He's take me out to dinner. But 826 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: that was about it. So long story short, the funerals. 827 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: Over a couple of days go by, he calls me 828 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: and he's just like, I know this is crazy, but 829 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 2: like you should just come out here and just be 830 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: with me. Just move to LA and just come and 831 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 2: be with me, like I'd been thinking about you every day. Wow, 832 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 2: And I just think we should try it. And I'm like, well, 833 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 2: I got to go back to the Bronx and get 834 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: all my stuff out out of my apartment. 835 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 3: He's all that stuff. 836 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: I'll get you all brand new stuff. You don't need nothing. 837 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: So I left all my in the Bronx. 838 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 3: I left everything I had, and he got me everything 839 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 3: brand new. 840 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 5: Somebody got some good stuff up in the Bronx, hun. 841 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they got some cool ain't as school as but 842 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 3: Kanye brought me. 843 00:38:54,840 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, Shannon, I did not know. I just did 844 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: not know. So when people are like, oh, Kanye found 845 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 2: her at the strip club, he didn't even know I 846 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: was a dancer. And so I went back to La 847 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 2: to be with him. I was like, by the way 848 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 2: I was dancing, and he was like, I don't give 849 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: a shit about that, Like, I just want to be 850 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: with you. 851 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 3: So he was very charming. 852 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 2: That's why I fell in love with Kanye because it 853 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 2: was really amazing at the time. 854 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 5: Wow. 855 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Kanye. So first dates, give me, give me 856 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: a kind of like a timeline, like a first date. 857 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 5: High should line up? 858 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: Okay, I see some you see somebody Because this studies say, 859 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: now nobody ask anybody on a date in person. 860 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 5: Basically it's dming. It's you know, it's. 861 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: Third party a my homeboy or my homegirl saw you, 862 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: or they want to know can they get you? You know, 863 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: give me your ig, don't nobody's passed out, no numbers anymore. 864 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 5: You can hit me on ig things like that. 865 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: So if someone were to ask, and I don't want 866 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: to be disrespectful, So if you're in a relationship, I apologize. 867 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 3: I'm very much single. 868 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just what's the best way to go about 869 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: asking Amber. 870 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 5: Rolls out on a date? 871 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 3: Just ask me. I might actually say yes, because no 872 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 3: one talks to me ever. And that's the thing. 873 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 2: You know, people will be like, you know, how did 874 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: Nick Cannon get Mariah? And it's like he got Mariah 875 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 2: because he actually asked and he wasn't intimidated because she 876 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 2: was Mariah carried, you know, and you gotta think somebody 877 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: like Mariah or even me. 878 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 3: I know I'm not Mariah. 879 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 2: You might say, yeah, but they just are so they're 880 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: scared of the rejection that so many months go by 881 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: where no one tries to talk to us, and then we're. 882 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 5: Just what's wrong with me? Just like. 883 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: With y'all. So you like a confident man, You like 884 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: a man to walk up on you say, excuse me? 885 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 5: Can I take you to lunch? Can I take you 886 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 5: to gain? You know? 887 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: Not like to climb? 888 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 5: Lord have mers? You got to give me in trouble. 889 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: But so, but you like, you like a man with 890 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: confidence that's not put off because there's not there's not 891 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: I feel comfortable in saying this. I don't think there 892 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: are very many people that can that's gonna walk up 893 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: on you and not know who you are. But a 894 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: lot of times people get intimidated by the men that 895 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: you dated. She dated Kanye, she dated a wiz, she 896 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: dated Sam and so they like automatically. Yeah, So let 897 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: me ask you a question. You cool with a dude 898 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: that's that's not on that level. 899 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 3: As far as what like, either famous or financially Yes. 900 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean obviously, Look, you're doing good for yourself. I 901 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: ain't gonna be with somebody that ain't doing as good 902 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: as me. I need you to be due at least 903 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: as good as me, if not better, better, it's better. 904 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, could it be someone that's not famous 905 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: quote unquote of. 906 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 2: Course, yeah, they don't have to be famous at all, 907 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 2: but they they. 908 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 5: They gotta have to be rich. 909 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 3: They have to be rich for sure. 910 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: So you go out, So what's so? How's because it's 911 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: interesting to see because you know, you think you how 912 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: I would talk to someone that's not famous versus someone 913 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 1: that is famous. 914 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 5: You're trying to like, Okay, when a n actuality is 915 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 5: still a. 916 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: Woman and they like pretty much a lot of the 917 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: same things. So I can have a normal you could 918 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: a guy can have a normal conversation, correct. 919 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 3: Right, exactly. So there was this guy, it was like 920 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 3: two weeks ago. 921 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 2: He went to his manager and asked about me. If 922 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 2: his manager knew someone that knew me to get in 923 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: contact with me, right. 924 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 5: You're doing too much bro. 925 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 3: So he did all that. 926 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 2: So I finally get on the phone. I'm like, why 927 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 2: didn't you just DM me? And he was like, I 928 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 2: just feel like you got so many dms. 929 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 5: You ain't gonna see me. 930 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna see And I said, I have no dms. 931 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 2: My dms are so dry. Men are terrified of me, Shannon, 932 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 2: even when I go on dates, like their handshake and 933 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: I'm just like. 934 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:15,479 Speaker 3: Why. 935 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, are you okay being because 936 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,919 Speaker 1: the thing is Amber the thing of people? I think 937 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: sometimes the like the public, the publicity, what comes along 938 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: with Amber Rose. Are you okay not being dating publicly? 939 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: I prefer that okay, because you. 940 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 5: Know you date public, you got to break up public. 941 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 3: I made those. 942 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 2: Mistakes throughout the years. I don't I'm not even concerned 943 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: with that anymore. 944 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: But when gods slide to your DM, do I mean, 945 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: do they like I would like to get to know you? 946 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: How do you? How do you differentiate, how do you like? 947 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 5: Okay, you serious? 948 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 1: Oh you man, you're going to bull jobs and so 949 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: forth to So how do you how do you determine. 950 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 5: What are you going to entertain and what you're gonna 951 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 5: mark the red? 952 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not based off the first conversation on the phone. 953 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 2: If you're stupid. I'm very attracted to like I'm attracted 954 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 2: to articulate, smart men that have like a soothing energy 955 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 2: but still very masculine and strong. I need all of 956 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 2: those components to make me feel safe around you. So 957 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,919 Speaker 2: if I get on the phone with you and you're like, yo, 958 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: what up? Shauty, what up? I'm going to be like this, 959 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 2: ain't it. It's not it. It's not it. 960 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: You mentioned like you want someone that's obviously financially secure, 961 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: So what is this? What about fifty to fifty relationships? 962 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: You ain't You ain't trying to hear that? 963 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 5: Bruh. You asked me out come on with it? 964 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially on the date. I'm not paying for no date. 965 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 2: I'm not paying for no date. Okay, I'm not Like, 966 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 2: if I I'm in a committed relationship with someone, why 967 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 2: do I have to pay the bills? 968 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 3: That's insane. 969 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not so no bills. 970 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm I can pay for my cell phone bill because 971 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,959 Speaker 2: it's like already like set up, Like I'm not gonna 972 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: be like let me take my credit card off and 973 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 2: put yours on. 974 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 3: I'm not an ass, but you know, I mean just. 975 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 2: Realistically, I don't like, I don't even know how that 976 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 2: would work. I've never experienced. 977 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 5: Have you ever paid for a date? Have you a guy? 978 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: Have you ever taken a guy out and paid for 979 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: his date, been paid for them, you know, brought to 980 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, the meal, the check came and you're like, babe, 981 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: I got this. 982 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: Or if it was my man, yes, for sure, I'll 983 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: do that. That's not a problem. But if it's just 984 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 2: a date and I'm getting to know the person. 985 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: No, do you want to share bank accounts or you're okay, 986 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: like you got your own? I got my own. I 987 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: know you're gonna take care of me like that. Or 988 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: do you need to be have a You guys need 989 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: to have a joint bank account, even if you if 990 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: you're married. I understand that because I think everybody if 991 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: you're married, have a joint bank account. You got your 992 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: bank account, I got my bank account. But what about 993 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: just dating? We're not married. 994 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 3: No, I don't want to see that's too invasive. Okay, 995 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 3: yeah I don't. I don't need that. 996 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't need that. 997 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 5: Marriage. You want to get married again. 998 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 3: If I find the right person, But I'm not kid 999 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 3: one more kid? Do I want another baby? Daddy? Is 1000 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 3: the question? 1001 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 5: Because you told me I think you you want you 1002 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 5: want a girl? Right? You want to? You got two boys? 1003 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't mind another boy. 1004 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 5: What about a daughter? 1005 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: You don't want to I'm good, you're a friend, he 1006 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: might be like big, you know what. 1007 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 3: I'm actually I love my boys. 1008 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,919 Speaker 2: I'm very much a boy's mom, so I'm so used 1009 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 2: to that that I don't even know what I would 1010 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 2: do with a girl, you know what I mean? 1011 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 3: But I would have to get. 1012 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 2: A Sarah Gate because I was telling you before we started, 1013 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 2: I have tears in my spinal cord from pregnancy. So 1014 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 2: I have to get like epidoro steroids shots and stuff. 1015 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 2: And once I get those, I'm like running around like 1016 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 2: a teenager. 1017 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 3: I'm good. 1018 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 2: But to go through that like again with my body 1019 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 2: and carrying a baby in my body, I can I 1020 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,959 Speaker 2: go through that again? 1021 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 5: Oh? 1022 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: Okay, gifts. What's the best gift you've ever received? 1023 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 3: I don't get gifts. 1024 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: Stop this dam and I see now see how you 1025 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: see putting on? 1026 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 5: We would do it good. 1027 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: I thought you was courteous, receptive to courtesy, and now 1028 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me and nobody know about you no gifts. 1029 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 3: They don't buy me gifts. They don't buy me gifts. 1030 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: They don't buy you no gifts anymore, or they have 1031 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: never bought you gifts. 1032 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 2: I never really like, I never like men have taken 1033 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 2: me shopping. For sure, I go shopping, but as far 1034 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 2: as like I was thinking about you and I got 1035 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 2: you this. 1036 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 3: No, really, I'm telling you you know. 1037 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 2: When I was at home and I was thinking about 1038 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 2: this interview, I'm like, people are gonna think that I'm 1039 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 2: a liar, Yes, but I really just always had bad luck. 1040 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 2: Like I just feel like my whole life has just 1041 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 2: been bad luck. And I had some cool happen, but 1042 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 2: for the most part, I don't know. I just never 1043 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 2: really had I. 1044 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 3: Mean, maybe a Christmas gift, I don't know. 1045 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 2: No, I see girls on Instagram and it's like my 1046 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 2: boyfriend just bought me a g wagon. 1047 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, I never got that ever. 1048 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, that's what. 1049 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: But how would you feel like or you start dating 1050 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: because I think you know, once you start leading with money, 1051 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 1: there's an expectation that that's the continuation and that's the 1052 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 1: way it should be. So I mean, so what's your 1053 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: expectations you get in. 1054 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 3: I don't leave with money. 1055 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They leave, you know, lead 1056 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: with money. I don't expect you to. But I'm saying 1057 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: of a guy. 1058 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 3: Oh, I hear what you're saying. I understand what you're saying. 1059 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, here's the thing. I won't just date a 1060 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 2: man because he has money. Okay, if that's the case, 1061 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 2: I could have been married a billionaire already. I need 1062 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 2: to want to have sex with you. I need to 1063 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 2: want to snuggle up with you. I need to want 1064 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 2: to not eat until I eat with you. That's what 1065 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 2: I love. I'm a lover girl. 1066 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 3: Oh uh. 1067 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 2: You know, if we're watching the series, I'm not finna 1068 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 2: watch the next episode without you. That's the type of 1069 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 2: person I am. So I can't just be with a 1070 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 2: guy just because he has money. 1071 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: There. 1072 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,879 Speaker 2: It has to be a full package, which is why 1073 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 2: I've been single for the past two years. 1074 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 3: It's because I just won't. I just won't settle. 1075 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,240 Speaker 2: I just won't settle for something that's not genuinely gonna 1076 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 2: make me excited. 1077 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I mean, it's not like you got 1078 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: a wheelhouse type of guy. I mean with this six 1079 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: four you got Kanye looks order, I mean, I mean 1080 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 1: you'd be I. 1081 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 3: Dated white man, I dated black man. I did. I 1082 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 3: don't care. 1083 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,439 Speaker 2: I don't really have a preference and looks Okay, yeah, 1084 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 2: I don't. I just I like Korean men too, like 1085 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,959 Speaker 2: I like the Yeah, like the the k pop. 1086 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,240 Speaker 1: They're like cute athletes. 1087 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 5: I don't know about. You dated an athlete. 1088 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 3: Before I dated one was a l I don't want 1089 00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,359 Speaker 3: to talk about. 1090 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: But I was. 1091 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 2: Going through a divorce. It don't count. But I did 1092 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 2: in Monte Morris, that was my boyfriend for a while. 1093 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 3: We're actually still very close. 1094 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,959 Speaker 2: And I'm close with his family and stuff like that, 1095 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 2: but as friends, we haven't been together for a very 1096 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 2: long time. 1097 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,439 Speaker 5: What about football player getting a football guy? Know what's 1098 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 5: wrong with them? 1099 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 3: They're a little you know. 1100 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry. 1101 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: I tried. 1102 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 5: I tried. I tried to get y'all leave, but he like. 1103 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 3: Crazy, So no, it's okay. So it's not that. 1104 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 2: It's like, you know what's Shannon, I'm gonna be honest 1105 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 2: with you. If I get on the phone with you 1106 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 2: and you you try to love bombing and then all 1107 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 2: you talk about is sex, I'm gonna block you very 1108 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 2: early on in the conversations. 1109 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 3: And I feel like with. 1110 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 2: A lot of athletes, they're very sexual all the time, 1111 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 2: and it's like, can we just chop it up and 1112 00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,399 Speaker 2: laugh and just go to. 1113 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 3: The movies and to eat. Like, just like men have groupies, 1114 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 3: I have groupies too. 1115 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 2: So when it gets too convenient and too easy, I'm 1116 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 2: turned off. 1117 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,720 Speaker 3: It's too accessible for me. I'm not the average girl. 1118 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 2: So when it's too accessible and you just slinging it 1119 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 2: all over the place, I'm like, it's not I don't 1120 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 2: really want it, you know. 1121 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's that's your red flag. 1122 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, just like I just want to I want to 1123 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 3: see you. I want to do this. And now I'm like, God, 1124 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 3: what's your last name? But where you come? You got kids? 1125 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 3: What's going on here? 1126 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 4: Like? 1127 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 3: What are what your hobbies? 1128 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 4: Like? 1129 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 3: Talking about having sex with me? You don't even know me? 1130 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 5: So weird idea first day? 1131 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 3: Okay, I might't need another sipidition. God damn. 1132 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 5: All right, Hello, Hey, what's up? 1133 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 3: Are we doing this? Yeah? 1134 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 5: You know we're doing this. I'm calling, I'm calling you 1135 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 5: pick up? Hello, Hey, how you doing this? Shannon? 1136 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 3: Oh? Hey Shannon. 1137 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: Uh that was the one thing. If you're free tomorrow night, 1138 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,879 Speaker 1: I want to take you to dinner. I just want 1139 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,879 Speaker 1: to get to know you, just just feel you out, nothing, 1140 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 1: having nothing major, no no strings attached. It's not like 1141 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: this is a committed relationship or anything like that. But 1142 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: I just want to get to know you and see 1143 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: if we can buy it. 1144 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 3: I'm actually free tomorrow. I would love that with time. 1145 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 5: Uh, I'm on. 1146 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: My way right now, but I think of a party. 1147 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 5: So so, okay, got called. 1148 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 2: I'm easy, you know, but I'm not easy in that way. 1149 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 3: But it's like, if i'm available, sure I'll go. 1150 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 4: On a date. 1151 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 5: What do you like? So? 1152 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,359 Speaker 1: What's a what's a you wanna dimly lid? Okay, you're cool. 1153 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: You want to be off in the back room somewhere. 1154 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: What's what's what's an ideal evening for amber? 1155 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 3: Great conversation? 1156 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 2: Okay, eye contact, not talking about sex at all, it's 1157 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 2: gonna turn me off. 1158 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 3: What are your dreams? 1159 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 2: And ambitions or what were they like you asked me 1160 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 2: earlier when you were a kid. 1161 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 3: I just want to get to know you. 1162 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 2: I want to feel a closeness to you where it 1163 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 2: makes me be like, damn, I'm thinking about him the 1164 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 2: next day. 1165 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 3: I want to see him again. 1166 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that, you know, so like y'all 1167 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 1: see that women do y'all need to know. 1168 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to be like I want to wake 1169 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 2: up the next day and just be like that was 1170 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 2: so nice. 1171 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 3: I wonder what he's doing. 1172 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 5: Later, hopefully, I sure hope he asked me out again. 1173 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but she had it. Hold on before you 1174 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 2: say that. These men out here are princesses. Okay. They 1175 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 2: want to be the princess. They want you to text first. 1176 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 2: They want you. 1177 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 3: To be like, babe, I'm gonna take you out. They 1178 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 3: want you to call I'm gonna take you out, boo. 1179 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 2: They want you to be the man in the relationship. Really, 1180 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 2: it's so bad out here. It's so terrible. You don't 1181 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 2: know how many people are blocked, like I can't take it. 1182 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 2: And these are really I mean, I'm not going to 1183 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 2: name y'all. They're really successful guys, just stupid, just they 1184 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 2: want to be catered to, and it's like I'm old. 1185 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,720 Speaker 1: School, but it's okay. If you call, it's okay. 1186 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 5: It's like, hey, are. 1187 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 3: You and I do? 1188 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: Okay, I do because somebody some of y'all, y'all, some 1189 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: of y'all y'all be doing too well. 1190 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 3: Not toxic. 1191 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: No, but I'm saying I shouldn't have to call all 1192 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: the time. 1193 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,280 Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying. 1194 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is is that these men nowadays do 1195 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 2: not take initiative. 1196 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 3: Like men do. 1197 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 2: If you if me, you are talking, and you text 1198 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 2: me and I'm on my phone, I'm not going to 1199 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,839 Speaker 2: be toxic and be like let me wait. I'm gonna 1200 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 2: let him wait ten minutes for okay. That not doing 1201 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,240 Speaker 2: that done. 1202 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 3: I'm too old for that. 1203 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 2: If I'm on my phone or you text me, I'm 1204 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 2: gonna be like, hey, what you doing, I'm gonnaect you 1205 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 2: right back. I don't care about looking thirsty and all that. 1206 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 2: If I'm excited, I'm going to show you that I'm 1207 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 2: excited and I want the same in return. 1208 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 5: I like that. 1209 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: Hold on, is it true that you make men get 1210 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 1: tested before they sleep with you? 1211 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 3: Yes, well I'm protecting yes every time. 1212 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 5: And they cool with that. 1213 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 2: They're like, okay, yeah, but they're not gonna do it. 1214 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 3: They're gonna do it. 1215 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you believe it. Hey, As a matter of fact, 1216 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm coming with it that you go right now, exactly 1217 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 1: at what age did you start doing? 1218 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 4: What? 1219 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:36,879 Speaker 5: What age? 1220 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 2: But again, I watched my neighborhood friend died of AIDS, 1221 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: So for me, it was very close to home. And 1222 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to be epidemiologist, so I studied STDs and 1223 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 2: I was obsessed with like bacterias and stuff. 1224 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 3: So for me, it's like, you're not finna play with 1225 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 3: my life. I don't give how cute you are. 1226 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 1: Wow, what's the wildest thing you've ever done in relationship? 1227 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: I reg with Meghan Fox. I think she drank like 1228 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: some of the machine gun Kelly's blood. And you saw 1229 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 1: Angelina Angelina Joe Lee did this with Billy Bob Thornton. 1230 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 1: What's the wildest thing you've done in the relationship ever? 1231 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 3: I'm not a wild girl. I'm not. 1232 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 5: But why people have that perception of you know they 1233 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 5: do that? 1234 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 2: No, ask my assistant Joseph. You've been with me for 1235 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 2: ten years. I had no skeletons in my closet. I'm 1236 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 2: not into dbus sex. I don't like eating kouchie. I'm 1237 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,760 Speaker 2: not into threesomes. I don't I'm a very traditional hole. 1238 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 2: I don't like none of that extra. I don't do drugs. 1239 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 2: I don't get drunk. I'm very square. I'm just not 1240 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:40,280 Speaker 2: that person. 1241 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 5: Oh so you like a basket. You like one on one. 1242 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 3: I like one on one. I like one. 1243 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 5: Give me that, Give me that, y'ah. 1244 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 2: All them that's frowns upon nowadays, because if girls say that, 1245 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, she ain't gonna bring No. I'm not 1246 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,720 Speaker 2: bringing no bitchess home, y'all. I'm not doing it. Don't 1247 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 2: ask me, don't bother me with that, or just leave 1248 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 2: me alone. Right, it's not my thing. 1249 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 5: You spend the block. No, once you done, you're done. 1250 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 3: I'm done. Yeah. I hope grudges too, Really yeah, I do. 1251 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 5: Why? 1252 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 3: I just I'm just not a forgiving person. 1253 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,319 Speaker 5: What if it's you're the one that messed up. 1254 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 3: I don't mess up. I never met. I'm an overachiever. 1255 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 3: I do not mess up. Mm hmmm. You go through 1256 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 3: my phone if i'm if you're my man, you can go. 1257 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 2: You got my password. I don't got nothing to high Damn. Yeah, Shannon, 1258 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 2: men don't cheat on their barber. Why you won't cheat 1259 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 2: on me? 1260 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 5: Damn? 1261 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: I ain't look at it like that. I didn't look 1262 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: at it like that. You heard that. 1263 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 5: You don't cheer you, You. 1264 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: Don't go to the barbers. He can be cut you 1265 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 1: every ten years, all of a sudden, step out on 1266 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 1: and let somebody else cut it. 1267 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 2: They don't do that. Why why do you cheating on 1268 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 2: me for what? Why do I have to tolerate that? 1269 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,919 Speaker 3: Damn? I'm dealing with that ship. 1270 00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: What have dating in La taught you? 1271 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 2: It is a nightmare out here. Really, it's a nightmare. 1272 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1273 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 2: I saw on Instagram the other day they said La 1274 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 2: is the worst place in America for dating. 1275 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 5: I can believe it. 1276 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's a lot of pretending amber. There's a 1277 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: lot of pretending on both sides. I'm somebody that I'm not, 1278 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: I have something that i'm not, I'm going someplace I'm not, 1279 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: And so everybody, everybody is lying to each other. And 1280 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: then when you get together and you finally catch up, 1281 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 1: like bro Sis, you've been lying this whole time. You 1282 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 1: ain't none of what you said. 1283 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 3: It's sick out here. It's sick if. 1284 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 1: You live here, so you gotta you're gonna have if 1285 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: you gonna get married, you gonna have to. 1286 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 2: I live here by default because my kids are here 1287 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 2: and they're still young. If I didn't have my kids, 1288 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 2: or if I didn't want to go through all this 1289 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 2: with my baby Daddy's, I would leave. 1290 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 3: I would go to I would go to Dallas or something. 1291 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 5: I thought you'd gonna say, Houston. Why do you think 1292 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 5: people cheat? 1293 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 3: They're insecure. 1294 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 2: If you cheat, your insecure, because all you have to 1295 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 2: do is say, hey, listen, I care about you, but 1296 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm not happy. So I want to go over here 1297 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 2: and try this. It's really not that hard. Yes, you 1298 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 2: might shatter someone's hard, but at least you're being honest. 1299 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 2: So when you cheat, you're trying to find validation somewhere 1300 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 2: else because you can't face what you got going on 1301 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 2: in your life. 1302 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 3: Just be honest. 1303 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 5: So transparency is big for you. 1304 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 3: It is the only thing. If you betray me, I've 1305 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 3: never talked to you ever again. 1306 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 5: Never Never have you ever cheated. 1307 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 3: Never, not on any boyfriend I ever had ever in 1308 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 3: my life. I never cheated. I'm not a cheater. 1309 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you don't drink, you don't smoke. 1310 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 1: You and I here tripping? 1311 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 5: What is it? What is it? 1312 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean I would have thought you'd have been married 1313 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 1: with my four or five kids by nothing. 1314 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 3: Men are terrified in me. 1315 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 5: Why they terrified me? 1316 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean you're a man. Tell me. 1317 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I think they're they're 1318 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 3: intimidated by my persona. 1319 00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe it. 1320 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 3: But if you get to know me. 1321 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 2: As a person, you'd be like, damn she cool with sales. 1322 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm really just a souldfilly regular. 1323 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you came in here, You're like, hey, how 1324 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: you doing. Nice to meet you, Thanks for having me. 1325 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming out to do this. You're very courteous, 1326 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: very receptive to courtesy. Yeah, but I can I can 1327 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: see because I'm thinking in my head, I'm like, wow, okay, 1328 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: she's a very attractive woman. I mean I see her. 1329 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 1: When you see someone that I was telling you this 1330 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: off camera. I say, to see someone on television and 1331 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 1: you think you're going to see this person, and all 1332 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden you meet this person. Of course, I 1333 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: had a perception of what I thought you would be. 1334 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: You're nothing. What I thought you would be. That's actually 1335 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: sitting here talking to you off camera, now talking to 1336 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: you on camera. So I can see why men that 1337 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 1: see you and I like to think I'm kind of 1338 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: successful but a normal person. Yeah, they would be very 1339 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 1: intimidated by you. 1340 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it happens. 1341 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 2: But you know, girls like me are probably the most 1342 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 2: loneliest for sure. 1343 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: How do you how do you know someone is cheating? 1344 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Have you someone cheating? You go through his phone, you 1345 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: follow him out, you put what are the air tags? 1346 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 5: I think that's the thing. So how have you called? I? 1347 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 3: Will I listen? 1348 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 5: You're gonna tell your secrets. 1349 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm a real soul Philip. I used to pull up. 1350 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 2: I will pull up. I'll do all that stuff. I'll 1351 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 2: bust out windows. 1352 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm on jazz, but sell the windows. Somebody call I swear. 1353 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 2: To God like that is the amber back in the day. Okay, Okay, 1354 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 2: now I have an intuition. I'll know like that, and 1355 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 2: I'll just be like, out of my life. 1356 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't tolerate. Why why tolerate? 1357 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 2: I have my own money, my own children, my own house, 1358 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 2: my own cars. Why tolerate and betrayal? If you can 1359 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 2: sit there and lie to me, you're not my friend. 1360 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 2: And in a relationship, you have to be friends with 1361 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 2: someone first before anything, you know, So if you're not 1362 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 2: my friend, why are you in my life for what? 1363 01:01:54,760 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 1: How do you repray a broken heart time? Because they 1364 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: say the mind replays what the heart can't delete. 1365 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 3: That makes sense. 1366 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you're in a situation and you're with 1367 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,919 Speaker 1: someone for an extended period of time and not saying 1368 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 1: this betrayal because and the thing is that I'm bright, 1369 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 1: and now what I tell people, breaking up with someone 1370 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: is easy if you're the one that wanted to do 1371 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 1: the breaking up. The hard part is when you want 1372 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: to be in this relationship and the other party doesn't. Yes, 1373 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: that's the hard part. How do you start to mend 1374 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 1: when you've been interwoven with this person for an extended 1375 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 1: period of time two years, five years, seven years, ten years? 1376 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 5: How do you untangle that? 1377 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I go to the gym. That's all I do. 1378 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 2: I get up every day. No, it sounds superficial, but 1379 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 2: the only thing that can heal that is time. Getting 1380 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 2: up under somebody else is not going to help. Sitting 1381 01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 2: at home and crying about it is not going to help. 1382 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 2: It's not going to change nothing. But if you go 1383 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 2: and you get active and you stay busy, time will 1384 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 2: go by, and then you know things will get better. 1385 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 1: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two 1386 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 1: is also posted and you can access it to whichever 1387 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just 1388 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 1: simply go back to club Shashay profile and I'll see 1389 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:22,439 Speaker 1: you there.