1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In occasion didn't notice, I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do, It's what 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: he likes to ship. Now it's time to hear from 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here we come. 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, ros 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. It's time to start reading other people's success 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: stories and start writing on I always tell people leave 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: with your gifts and don't let your age, friends, family, 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: or coworkers stop you from planning or living your dream. 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: My interviews that I do on Money Making Conversations provide 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: the consumer and business owner access to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: and industry decision makers. I got my next guests her book. 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: It's what I say every time I start this show. 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Don't let your age, friends, family or co workers stop 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: you from planning or living your dreams, no matter who 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: you are, how you think, how they how you, how 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: they think you should look. This is what a book 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: all My next is I call a Kiky care or 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: shared Kelly. That's to my interview that she wasn't killing 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: But that's all right, that's how right. She's Grammy winner, 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Stellar Award winning artist actress. She portrayed her mother in 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: the Lifetime biopic The Clok Sisters First Ladies of Gospel 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: is Lifetime's highest rated movies since sixteen. And she's an entrepreneur. 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: Her company Eleve and sixty a very successful clothing line 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: for four figured women, and now Arthur Big, Bold and 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: Beautiful owning the Woman God made You two be. It 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: is an inspirational memoir book for your mind, body, spirit 32 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: and if you're an entrepreneur your business, please work with 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: the money making conversation. She's my friend, Ki Ki care 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: Shared Kelly. How you doing my friend? I am doing well? 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: How are you well? I'm excited? You know, I always 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: get excited talking to because you're in this rational to me. 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: I have a twenty three year old daughter, and so 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: whenever you come on the show, I look for You're 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: the people in her peer group, you know, because you're 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: she looked to up to you. She follows you. She 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: she finds uh your unblinding faith, your your ability to 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: achieve success. And I usually as an example a lot 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: of times. So whenever you come on the show, I'm 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: always excited and she gets excited. So her name is 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: Christiana McDonald's. But thank you. Now let's talk about this book. 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Before we talk about book, let's talk about now that 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: the movie been out. You know, because when I interviewed you, 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: the movie came out. But now we've had a year 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: of the movie being out. How has that transformed your life? 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: The movie I'm talking about is The Clark's Sisters First 51 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: Ladies of Gospel. Well, it has changed my life in 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: so many ways. One way is when I go to 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: the store, now I seem like more people know who 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: I am and they're relating to me as Karen or 55 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: calling me Karen. So it has changed my life in 56 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: that way. But it also stretched me to be honest. 57 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: Um trying to portray my mother vocally and just as 58 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: a person, because she's so gracious and she's like a 59 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: quiet storm who is not intimidated by people. But it 60 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: comes off as like an innocence or like a it's 61 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: just so soft. I had to kind of pull back 62 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: while working on that role. So it's changed my life 63 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: as a woman. And I think it prepared me to 64 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: not knowing then while I was actually doing the role 65 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: as a single woman, that is preparing me to be 66 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: a wife and a mother, just to see things differently. Um, 67 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: So it really has changed my life in so many ways. 68 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: Of course it was a resume builder, but it was 69 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: me performing for my mother, and so it was really 70 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: special for me. Well, it was special in a lot 71 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: of ways because you know, you reveal, you pull back 72 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: to the curtain. In other words, you know, they told 73 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: a story about your grandmother, told a story about your 74 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: mom and her sister's experience in dealing with your grandmother, 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: someone who was rather sensitive, and which is great because 76 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: it was a story by a woman pushing her children 77 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: to be the best that they could be. And I 78 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: kind take that away and fast forward. I look at 79 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: the book Big, Bold, and Beautiful. That book is about 80 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: pushing you and your friends pushing you and helping you 81 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: and supporting you to be the best key key you 82 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: can be? Is that correct? Absolutely? And I'm it's so 83 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: important because you know, I'm a woman to face. So 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: I believe in the scripture when it says that iron 85 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: sharping's iron. And I was just talking to my friend 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: Tasha Covs Leonard, and she brought out a great point. 87 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: She said, Keith, when you say iron sharping's iron, it 88 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: could be negative iron that's sharpening negative iron ore. It 89 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: could be positive versus positive. And so I think it's 90 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: so important what I talked about it in the book 91 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: Self Care has everything to do with your squad. You know, 92 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: how they're pouring into you, how they're pushing you into destiny, 93 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: how they're reminding you of the promises of God. You 94 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: have people around you who's always picking at you, and 95 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: negative Nancy or negative Joe or whoever you want to 96 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: call it. It's like it'll drain you and will cause 97 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: you to believe the complete opposite of what you've been dreaming. 98 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: So think it's so important to be very particular what 99 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: who's in your space, because you can ask somebody that's 100 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: against you and they can cover themselves up. It's like 101 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: a what do they say, a wolve in sheep's clothing. 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: So it's so important that we are selective in that area. Yes, well, 103 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: you know it's important we talk about this. I'm a 104 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: slow everything down because I want everybody to understand the 105 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: value of this book. And it's not a value that 106 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: just a female gender can can take. Nugget to wait, 107 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm a successful in person in this business. I'm a male. 108 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: And when I started reading the book, I went, Okay, 109 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: relatable because one of the chapters where you talk about 110 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: I always have a phrase, you know, you can't save everyone. 111 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: You know, you only have one life jacket. You gotta 112 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: let them go. You talk about it, and one of 113 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: your chapters about that about people around you and not 114 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: understanding that you know, you can't worry sometimes about other 115 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: people's rent or the food on their table if they're 116 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: not if they don't worry about it, and there's a 117 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: chapter about that, and it was really from a business 118 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: from a life perspective. I was floored at the relatability 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: because I go, wow, this is how I think. And 120 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: so when some people do memoirs and you're such a 121 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: young person, I'm gonna I'm gonna remind you that you're 122 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: a young person. And but you also say I've lived 123 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: an adults life, you know, and so and We're gonna 124 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: get into that in the book, because but let's talk 125 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: about that the whole chapter where you wrote about people 126 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: around you and then you're taking it personal how you 127 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: should treat them. You over worry about them what they 128 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: think about you, because it does as an entrepreneur, beyond 129 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: a relationship can be damaging. Correct, absolutely. And one thing 130 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: that I've learned, and I talked about it in the book, 131 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: is that when dealing with people, you have to understand 132 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: you're not just dealing with what you have on the surface, 133 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: but you're also dealing with the culture that they've come from, 134 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: the trauma that they've experienced. So you're not just responding 135 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: in that moment to the comment they made. It's a 136 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: lot of things that are behind that statement. You know, 137 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: when we communicate with each other or sometimes and I 138 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: know where in the culture now where everybody is living 139 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: for the read ready to let somebody have it. I'm 140 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: about to show this person lives sleep while they sleep. 141 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: But I guess for me, the way I have been 142 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: moving through life, what has changed my perspective is to 143 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: simply understand you're not just responding to the person, You're 144 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: responding to their life. Circumstances that have molded them into 145 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: who they are today. And some people do things and 146 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: it's not everything should not be taken personally. So I 147 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: absolutely agree with you. And if we don't have that understanding, 148 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: and if we're always taking things personally, will always be 149 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: responding to any and everything to where it will take 150 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: so much energy. It will shift our focus off of 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: what we really should be focused on onto that person 152 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: and just that scenario. And so I have had to 153 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: learn that the picture is bigger than me. It's it's 154 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: so far beyond one moment, like be a student at 155 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: every opportunity you get. But even in the book I 156 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: talk about, it's a chapter called making the most of 157 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Every Opportunity, And I just had to learn that after 158 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: chapter four. It is the chapter where Shimika, you know, 159 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: and y'all went to West Africa, you know. And because 160 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: y'all read your book now, I read your book. Now, 161 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: it's the beauty of this book. Okay, uh, we're talking 162 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: about I'm talking to Keiki or kre She or Kelly. 163 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Jordan in a minute, you know, 164 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: because she had to she had to figure out how 165 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: to find him, and she talks about that journey because 166 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, at one point in life. Let me 167 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: get ahead of the story, because I want to go 168 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: back a little bit about This is why I really 169 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: loved the book, because you're You're beautiful, your your your faith. 170 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: You come from a legacy family or gospel, and sometimes 171 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 1: people can see a certain degree of perfection. And we 172 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit in your book, you know, 173 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: the silver Spoon chapter and finding yourself. And in the 174 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: process of that, when you talk about the bad relationship, 175 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: I went, wow, you know, because people don't think you 176 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: have a bad relationship. People don't think that you have 177 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: bad days. And I felt to me and it's written 178 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: early on in the book, because I thought that was 179 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: important because any young reader, especially young women readers, I 180 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: thought that was important that you allowed yourself to show 181 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: us the side of you that we didn't see. We see. 182 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: We see success, we see awards, we see a happy marriage, 183 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: we see photo ops in essence and magazines and online. 184 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: But that was important that you wrote the truth to 185 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: a degree of showing people that I am just like you. 186 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: I have bad days, I make mistakes in the men 187 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: that I select, I am not perfect. Tell us about 188 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: the importance of that. Well, first, it's important. At one 189 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: scenario that I remember when I started to understand the 190 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: significance in the process of healing is when I fell 191 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: off of a bike. And I think I talked about 192 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: this in the book, but I fell off of a 193 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: bike and my mom, of course, she told me, you 194 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: know what to do, go ahead and put on the 195 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: band aid. But she noticed that I kept getting in 196 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: the tub and taking showers with the same band aid, 197 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: not cleaning it, and just the sore or the scalp 198 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: began to get soggy, so it wasn't healing properly, so 199 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: it was becoming something more than what it actually was 200 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: in that moment. So speaking of transparency and letting these 201 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: things out, it's a part of healing. You have to 202 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: let oxygen into your wound so that they can heal properly. 203 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm doing through my life and through 204 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: me speaking about it, through me talking about it, but 205 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: not only that this form appealing which as a woman 206 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: of faith, there's a scripture that says confess your thoughts 207 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: one to another that you may receive healing. Therapy did 208 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: not come from culture. Therapy came from God. He says, 209 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you people that you can talk to. 210 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: But the latter part of that scripture says, the prayers 211 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: of the righteous avail. If much, it's just all in 212 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: who I talk to. If I'm talking to the right person, 213 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: a righteous individual, I can trust that then they can 214 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: carry my secrets, carry my issues, and then take them 215 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: to God, because I need someone to take me to 216 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: God or carry me to God when I can't get 217 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: myself to them. And so that even speaks to the 218 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: self squad HEAs of it. But that's why I wanted 219 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: to be transparent here, because I want you to know 220 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: that I can relate. And I think the connectivity again, 221 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: like we've mentioned, it's all in providing a solution for 222 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: someone who may feel like they're alone. Very often will 223 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: soak in it, will get into depression, will become anxious, 224 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: and it's because we feel like we're alone. And so 225 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: with this conversational approach and me hoping that the reader 226 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: will be like, you know what, this is my girl, 227 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: I can relate, I connect I'm hoping that they will 228 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: become free from listening and reading to that so reading 229 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: the book, So that was my whole intent transparency is 230 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: healing me, but it's in return healing the reader as well. Well, 231 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: you had attitude in this book, too fresh with that dude. 232 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: That dude, he's gonna call you unattractive and mess with 233 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: your weight. And you could, Hey, maybe my bigness is 234 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: just too enough for your smallness. I would. And you 235 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: know what, it's so many of us who allowed people 236 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: to speak to us, and and sometimes it comes in 237 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: places we don't expect, and so and just to answer 238 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: your question, and because I know I went to far 239 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: left field, but I wanted to talk about it because 240 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: I had to get it wrong for me to understand 241 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: what was right. And that's what led me to my husband. 242 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: Now this healthy relationship. Like before I was like, Hey, 243 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: I want to pray in my relationships, or I want 244 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: you to call me a little bit more often, send 245 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: me a text check on me. In another relationship that 246 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: was too much for them. But now that I'm with 247 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: my husband, and just in the first dating steps of 248 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, with Jordan's, he showed me that I wasn't 249 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: too much. It was just that I was asking someone 250 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: who only had a pint um to pour into this 251 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: gallon size of Now I'm with Jordan's he can give 252 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: me a gallant, I can give him a gallant with 253 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: filling each other up. And so that's why I wanted 254 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: to tell young women that to the other problem was 255 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: speaking of young people. My father told me the rue 256 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: word of dating is data. Talk about money making conversation. 257 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: We put up ourselves for discount, Lois Batton, don't go 258 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: on discount. Why do you think you need to put 259 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: yourself up on discount? 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And 305 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: that's just a sample size of what came out and 306 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: just hit me in my face in a positive way. 307 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: Because this this we're in an interesting life because, like 308 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: you said, when you was eighteen, in the period when 309 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: you hit the record labels, they only want to take 310 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: pictures of your face and profiles. They didn't really want 311 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: to take a picture your full body. That was before 312 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, the curved Dove came out with those curvy 313 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: ads and the curvy full figure models were hitting the 314 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: runways and all that. Talk about that here because I 315 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: have a lot of parents listening to the show, and 316 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: I may have some young adults, especially women, And this 317 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: is a section I really want to focus on the 318 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: women conversation because men in journal don't have the physical 319 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: size issues that women have to deal with. Because commercials 320 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: tell you should look like this commercial print asks tell 321 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: you should wear this size and things like that. And 322 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: then we're gonna get into you being launching that that 323 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: that what someone would consider a negative experience into a 324 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: successful business eleven sixty. But talk about when you was 325 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: eighteen at the record label. Yeah, I'm so excited that 326 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: you read. But I have to say, um, that was 327 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: an interesting experience. And I think I mentioned before while 328 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: we were talking. Sometimes you have this pushback from areas 329 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: that you didn't expect it, and it can be from 330 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: places that you trusted, hoping that it will be a 331 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: place to that would build you up. But that's the 332 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: moment where you figure out, oh, you're there to tear 333 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: me down. It was just you had to get in 334 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: good with me, and so I definitely had that that 335 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: experience where, um, you know, I just dealt with industry 336 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: pressure and um it's simple as I am. I often 337 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: still have to tell people, you know, listen, I love God. 338 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm a simple girl. I don't want to always put 339 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: on And I think this, uh, the new culture and 340 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: even the listeners and the demo, they're learning that I 341 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: don't got to do all of that, you know anymore. 342 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: And if I don't, there is an audience that is 343 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: waiting to hear from me. And of course, now I'm 344 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: not saying don't change your position in heart, because I 345 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: think it's so important that we remain students at heart, 346 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: because that's what makes you timeless. But I think, uh, 347 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: the other piece that young women should know is to 348 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: not compare yourselves. Uh. I think Theodore rose A Belt 349 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: said before that comparison is the thief of joy. You'll 350 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: find yourself trying to catch up with culture saying it 351 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: is the pretty thing to do or the thing to do, 352 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: and find that it's unobtainable for you because that was 353 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: never for you, that wasn't assigned to you. And so 354 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: speaking of the word big in this this book, uh, 355 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: it was It was an insecurity for me once upon 356 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: a time. But I had to stop asking people what 357 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: they thought about me in my life, and I had 358 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: to ask God, what do you think? Let me ask 359 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: the inventor about his invention rather than going with people. 360 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: That's just trying to figure out how do I stay 361 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: in touch with you? But I have those chapters in 362 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: the book, and one chapter chapter eight, and says stop 363 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: comparing you. I'm so mad at you. You stole my 364 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: thought because I'm about to say that chapter eight, I'm 365 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: about to say, stopped comparing yourself. It's chapter eight. You're 366 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: making me mad. Now I gotta let you know I 367 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: love this book, girl, I love people. That's chapter eight. 368 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: You just recited chapter eight, Yes, sir, And I was 369 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: gonna throw out there chapter um, chapter of fourteen to 370 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: where I say, stop looking at the other woman because 371 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: you've got the Jews sometimes. The court I love out 372 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: of chapter eight is no one had the power to 373 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: be me. Yeah, that's and that's the quote I wrote 374 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: down out of chapter eight. That's why I still with 375 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: me because you know, you know, I'm having a great 376 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: conversation and with you, and I just want to just 377 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: let you know that It resonated with me because in 378 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: the end, you know, write the book. You know, I've 379 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: been fortunate to be around individuals who have written a 380 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: successful book. And as you start to write, you have 381 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: a story, but then you start taking layers off and 382 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: you go, wow, I forgot about that. I forgot about that. 383 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: And then I know in writing this book, layers are 384 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: starting to get peel back. And it also is a relief, 385 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: Like like you said, to be able to tell your 386 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: story was a blessing for the reader, but also a 387 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: blessing from you for you because of the fact that 388 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: you would able to get these layers out of realize 389 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: how much you've grown as a person, because one point 390 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: in your life you just want to get married. You 391 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: just felt that was a need to get married. And 392 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: I want to bring that up because sometimes a man 393 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: in this case, because you're a woman, a man would 394 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: walk into your life. That doesn't mean that's the man. 395 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: And and and that's what this book talks about. Because 396 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: the man that she eventually got with, who had that 397 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: gallon of water because she needed a gallon of water, 398 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: she had known him all her life. He had been 399 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: walking around all his and he didn't even know it either, 400 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: So it wasn't on her. It wasn't just on her 401 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: not seeing that that that they both were walking into 402 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: church or walking through life half feeled they had eventually 403 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: slowed down and realized we've been looking at the wrong 404 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: opportunity when the opportunity was sitting right across the aisle 405 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: in this case church. Talk about that. Come on, I know, 406 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: preaching a little bit for your MISSI Kiki. You know 407 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You are driving jams and I'm loving it. 408 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: Um I I can only agree with you. I think 409 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: to a part of that evolution for me was me 410 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: having the time of being single. So there's also a 411 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: chapter in the book where I talk about being successfully 412 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: single because you have to find yourself because, like you said, 413 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: every person that comes in your life that ain't always 414 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: the one. And I think it goes back a point 415 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: to the again to the point that Dad mentioned, which 416 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: was date the person, collect the information so you can 417 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: draw the conclusion or the final result. So I definitely agree. 418 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: I think you said it all. But again my husband 419 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: showed me that no, you're not complicated. It's just you 420 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: were asking the wrong person to love on you and 421 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: they weren't equipped to give you what you needed. And 422 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: so I definitely agree with that all. And I think too, 423 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: if we're not careful because we are in the wrong place, 424 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: will begin settling. We'll say I've been asking for this, 425 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: I've been praying for this, and we'll look at everybody 426 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: to else's like like I said, once, U fun a time, 427 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: what was Sierra's prayer with russell Um And so I 428 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: understand what that's like. But we also have to get 429 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: to a place where I'm not settling for anything outside 430 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: of what I asked for. Like, no, that it's out there. 431 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: If God put it in you uh to ask for 432 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: it in prayer, if you have the audacity to think 433 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: of it, then it's obtainable. It's just make sure you're 434 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: available and open to love. But I was so closed 435 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: off and wanting one thing to work that I completely 436 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: had shut off every you know, all of the great possibilities. 437 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: So I agree with well, you know, by the way 438 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: successfully singles Chapter twelve. Okay, chapter two just laid down. No, 439 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: we just breaking down the chapter as you go along, 440 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: because now I want to go back before we wrap up. 441 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the entrepreneurship because that's a 442 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: part of this that really blew this book up for 443 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: me because it's written from a woman's perspective, but it 444 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: also layers out how you took a negative you know, 445 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: uh and turn it into a business. But along the 446 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: way you had to uh you know, because because it 447 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: was a link that I think Lukisha sent to you, 448 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: the Lukisha sent to you that that enabled you to 449 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: get into Macy's. And so that's why you say you 450 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: are the ball. That's the that's the God is the ball. Ball, 451 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: God is your agent. That's that chapter. God is that 452 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: your age chapter? And I'll tell okay, I um, you know, 453 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: I for the reason I'm excited because you know, I've 454 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: interviewed you and we we've we've we've we've because we 455 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: like our tone. But to really see how beautiful you 456 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: are and how how you you. You're giving us a 457 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: blessing in this book to be able to change lives. 458 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: That's because that's what I think, like a man uh 459 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: did for a lot of women. It just opened their eyes. 460 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: And this book can do so much for so many 461 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: young women, women who are trying to start businesses, women 462 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: who are frustrating relationship, women who are doubting themselves physically, mentally, emotionally, 463 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: but more importantly, the fastest growing business or franchise of 464 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: of of of the business world, or women and especially 465 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: women of color. And to write a book where I 466 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: think lends so many value lessons of how to because 467 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: I've talked about Courtney, and Courtney that's your ride or die? 468 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When Ball was being stupid, 469 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 1: you called Courtney and she didn't say nothing negative about you, 470 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: she didn't throw it back in your face. She said, hey, 471 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: come with me, girl, let's go over here. Let's keep 472 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: supporting you. And so, but these are the people that 473 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: you talk about. You layout you said, Richard, you gotta 474 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: have the people because you know, it was funny when 475 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: you were talking about Courtney. I was thinking about my 476 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: ride to die? Dude, who is that person? So you 477 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: made me sit back and go, Okay, Mr Successful, who 478 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: is your Courtney? Because you gotta have a Courtney. You 479 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: gotta have somebody to call when you die, because you're 480 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: gonna have down days, you have doubtful days. Who was 481 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: that person? But more importantly that led you to become 482 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and that's where you had you know, your 483 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: your other girls, stepping in your travel, made with all 484 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: over the world, career, everything for your business. It was 485 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: sitting right there with you at Macy's launching your didn't 486 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: know what you were really doing, but you did it. 487 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: That's the faith. But there was also having somebody support 488 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: your dream. Talk about that. It's so important. And I've 489 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: been in a space where I've had people around that 490 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: were there, you know, just by work and happenstance, but 491 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: they weren't really in my corner. They didn't understand my 492 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: vision um and it's like, you know, Okay, how do 493 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: we collaborate together? How are we? You know, life partners 494 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: is not just in the marriage and has everything to 495 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: to do with your purpose. When you make decisions in 496 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: your work or in your career, it shouldn't feel like work. 497 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: It should feel like fun, Like I'm just I'm just 498 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: living on purpose. This is just what I'm called to do. 499 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: And I think that when you're prayerful and asking, Lord, 500 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: give me this sense of desernment so I can know 501 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: who is assigned to me and who's supposed to walk 502 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: this journey for me or with me. Because there are 503 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: expiration dates on some relationships and connections that we have, 504 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: but if we don't respect them, then we'll get exasperated, 505 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: we can become sick. It's like if we drink some 506 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: milk that has an expiration date on it, eventually it 507 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: will make us sick. Our bodies won't respond well to it. 508 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: And so it's the same thing with people. So you 509 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: said it again from reading the book, but it's so 510 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: important to make sure that tribe and I talk about 511 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: it again twice. So it was squad goes and then 512 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: it was another chapter called finding your tribe. When you're 513 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: going out into the earth, you it's not you can't 514 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: fight everything. You need somebody to have your back. And 515 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: so those names that you called, they're simply women who 516 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 1: I have said. It's family. And you know what, if 517 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: you allow me as a woman of faith, I'm always 518 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: giving scripture. But they're the scripture that says, um, I 519 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: will give you a friend that is closer than the brother. 520 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: That wasn't Jesus that we're talking about. They were talking 521 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: about human beings, and so I think we should understand 522 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: that covenant relationships are ordained by Heaven and God loves 523 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: us through people. But it's just a matter of who 524 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: are the people were saying yes to Because the adversary 525 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: the appoint the opponent that he also uses people, So 526 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: make sure you say yes to the right people. Wow. 527 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: You know, um nothing that I expected this from you. Uh, 528 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: and that don't apologize. Uh, it's been inspirational. But the 529 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: the whole prospect though, would you say it is faith? 530 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: When you was at Macy's with Shamika your girl, you're 531 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: you're ride or die career, you know, du Baie. I'm 532 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: just we're just calling out some countries that y'all went to, 533 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, in West Africa. You know. Just let you know, 534 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: you boy read the book, you know this case. You 535 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: thought I was stumbling. You know, I'm not reading nothing. 536 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: I'm not reading nothing. I'm just I'm just I'm just 537 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: coming from you know, God's memory. That's all. That's all 538 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: right here, Thank you so much. I think it was 539 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: it was a It was a faith piece for sure, 540 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: because um it, I looked at it as spam. When 541 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: my cousin Keisha sent it to me, I was like, girl, 542 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: you know how they send those chain text messages and 543 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: they say signed up for this, and I'm like, I'm 544 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: not signing up for this, Like it was just like whatever. 545 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: So I really wasn't expecting every opportunity, even this book opportunity, 546 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: if you allow me to use that as a reference point. 547 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: The opportunity was in an email account that I just 548 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: had put aside for spam. But something told me, and 549 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, again, excuse me. I'm a church girl. So 550 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: you know how the scene the season says, they say, girl, 551 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: that wasn't something that was the whole a goals, But 552 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: something told me to go and check the email, and 553 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: here I am bumping into a book opportunity. And so 554 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: I definitely think it was divine. But I think and 555 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: I believe that God uses people to hand you what 556 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: belongs to you, that he gives you those moments. And 557 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: that's why I said it in that chapter, Um, God 558 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: as my agent, because sometimes you know pr management, they 559 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean, believe me when I say they put in 560 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: the hard work and it has everything to do with 561 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: where we're going and where we are. But sometimes God 562 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: does things so that only he can get the glory. 563 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: And so I will say, you know, God took me there, 564 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: but there was some other moments where I had to 565 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: work for it. So even in the word it says 566 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: you gotta put action to your faith so you can 567 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: believe a thing, but what you're gonna do when you 568 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: get there? So a lot of us are like, oh, 569 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: I want this, I want that, I want this, I 570 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: want that, But are you ready for it? Is your 571 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: character gonna keep you there? Is your work ethic gonna 572 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: keep you there. So I definitely think it is two 573 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: things that are colliding together, and it is my faith 574 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: and my action. I'm just I've been loving it. You know. 575 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: I rarely do I have interviews where it's a motivational 576 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: This motivational interview right here, you're just dropping these nuggs. 577 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: I was just sitting back on do your thing. You're 578 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: do your thing? What do I pass to play? What 579 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: do I pass to play? Because you are dropping scriptures, 580 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: you're dropping the truth. But more importantly, you've written amazing book, big, bold, 581 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: and beautiful, Owning the woman God made. I love this 582 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: part Owning the woman God made you to be. That's 583 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: it's not about your mistakes that you made in the past. 584 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: It's not about what people think of you now. It's 585 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: who what do you think of yourself? And that's what 586 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: this journey is about in this book, Because if every 587 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: woman who reads this book. I'll just tell you this woman, 588 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: because I'm talking about group with six sisters. I have 589 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: only one child. She's female. My daughter love her to death, 590 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: and and I love what you've done because you're given 591 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: her an opportunity to read an inspirational, motivational I would say, uh, 592 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: book you know of entrepreneurship and based on your memoir, 593 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: and you was on enough, honest enough to tell us 594 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: share some of your stories. And all stories aren't good stories, 595 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: but if they told for the right reason, they are blessing. 596 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: And I considered this book of blessing. Thank you, Thank 597 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: you so much, and I appreciate you supporting me and 598 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: both in both fields and with the music we're talking 599 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: and now with the book we're talking. Don't forgetting three three, 600 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: the movie, the music, the moving forward for the clothing 601 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: line eleven sixty the music you know, the movie and 602 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: not this amazing book. I'm dropping it in my news letter, 603 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm dropping it on my social media again. Thank you 604 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: for coming on my show, Money Making Conversations. Uh. It's 605 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna premiere uh nationally uh TV and May and so 606 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: i'm i'm, i'm, i'm We're gonna drop this early now 607 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: because I want to drop it down the time of 608 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: your book. But I'm gonna also re air this in May, 609 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: so if you get a little uplifting your book sale 610 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: your boy Rishan McDonald to care you, Okay, miss miss 611 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: Kelly ms Kelly ms Kelly, Mr Mr and the wife 612 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: the wife of Jordan's the wife of Jordan. That's how 613 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: the you for coming on this show. I really thank 614 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: you for coming on Money Making Conversations. 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