WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Postseason Or Offseason? 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:18.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.560 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World head Hours at 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:31.680 the Star in Frisco. Shallows, Got Tay, and now your 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:37.080 hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:47.320 Yeoman's Happy New Year's Eve. Everybody, welcome into a special 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.720 edition of Talking Cowboys because not only is in New 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.520 Year's Eve, but it's say it with your chest Thursday 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.920 for the final time in twenty twenty. Welcome in on 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:01.400 Dallas Cowboys dot Com and then host the coast streaming 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.400 live on the interwebs, and glad you're with us here 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:07.600 for the final show of twenty twenty. We were just 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.399 talking about it a moment ago, about our year and 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.440 really how crazy things have been for the Dallas Cowboys, 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.600 and we're gonna talk about how we could get even crazier. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.880 Coming up this weekend. Kyle Yoman's here alongside our resident 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.280 Super Bowl champ Isaiah Stanback. We've got Rob Danger, pe 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.639 Island Cowboys Insider down to the bottom right hand corner. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.720 Then heck Ma Harrison as always the professional football analyst 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.080 leading the way and boys. First off, Happy New Year's 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.679 Eve to each one of you guys and excited to 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.160 go into twenty twenty one with you and have a 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.880 show next week. Talking about the playoffs, right, I mean, 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:45.400 that's kind of where we're at, right, Yes, playoffs. Playoffs? 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:50.240 Are we talking about playoffs? So let's talk about how 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.680 the Cowboys could get to those playoffs, because today we're 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.280 gonna talk about the Cowboys offense matching up against the 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:59.280 Giants defense and really the matchup that I think is 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.320 going to the side this game for the Dallas Cowboys 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:03.920 and it's going to decide the winner of this game. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.160 But first, let's talk about some injuries on that defensive 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.120 side of the football for Dallas and rob injury report 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.200 came out yesterday and there were a couple of names 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.280 on there. A couple more names on there I should 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.320 say that I did not want to see, and most 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:22.480 of them were in the secondary. Well, which one's concerning 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.320 the most, Kyle Well. Donovan Wilson concerns me the fact 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:31.040 that he did not practice yesterday. Xavier Woods was limited, 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.160 Laton Vanderesh again on the injury report, there are a 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.680 couple of big names there that really concerned me. Yeah, 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.440 I thought it was encouraging that Xavier Woods got some 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.160 work in yesterday with the ribs injury that kept him 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.239 out against the Eagles, So I thought that was encouraging. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.480 Donovand Wilson had an illness was not present at practice. 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:56.000 You mentioned Vanderesh Cheeto has been I feel like he's 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.839 been dealing with a sham string or growing maybe last week. 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:01.160 I have to check if he was on the injury 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.320 port last week, but something bothered him during the game. 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.399 I think, so, Yeah, they're a little banged up, but 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.400 you know, they did okay at the linebacker position without 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.560 vander esh last week. And I think with Sean coming 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.480 in with Joe Thomas rotating in if he can't go 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.880 this week, I think you feel okay because you've got 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.840 some veteran depth there. But yeah, you got to keep 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.800 an eye on the secondary for sure this week and 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.480 darry and Thompson again, it may be a Jordan Lewis 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.400 game at safety, who knows, or he may have to 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:34.600 play a few snaps there depending on their situation. Heck, my, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.240 how big is it going to be if you don't 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.720 have either one of those guys, and then who would 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:42.200 you expect to potentially step up and play if Donovan 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.920 Wilson and Xavier Woods are not available, because I think 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.440 you started finding a rhythm with those guys in the 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:52.080 backside of the defense. Now, we opened up the season 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.880 talking about hybrid players, so let's right, let's get the 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.320 hybrid on. You know, Jorge lewis a little bit of safety. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.720 He Bill then nicely. I feel like hit all of 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.640 the injury reports and our safeties being banged up, but 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.160 all over the league, guys are banged up. So I 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:14.400 fully expect that, at least for my conscious need, Donovan 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.640 Wilson to be able to go h and Xavier Woods 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.240 because obviously he was out up from the Philly game. 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.679 But you know, I think that we did pretty good 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.680 with guys that were out last week, all things being considered, 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.160 with the passing yards that they got towards the end 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.920 of the game. But still I feel good about whomever 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.800 we have in there. Right now. Our front is playing 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.880 so so good and getting pressure and got everybody needs 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.479 to understand, man, when you're able to manufacture that pressure 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.800 and get sacks and move the quarterback out of the pocket, 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.200 it does well for your secondary. So I look for 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.720 these guys to repeat that effort. No Cheeto out there, 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.039 or at least he was limited out there as well. Isaiah, 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.039 do you think Cheeto had a solid enough game last 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.400 week against Philadelphia to where if he were unavailable against 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.080 New York and a couple of these weapons like a 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.000 Sterling Shepherd or an Evan Ingram that it would play, 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.240 that would pay huge dividends for the Giants in terms 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.719 of an advantage. I don't think so. I don't think. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.240 I mean, where he's at right now in his development, 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:15.880 I don't. I don't feel like he's that dominant of 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.800 a of a player right now. So, and especially if 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.040 he was ever going to be out a game, it 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.960 would probably be against these guys because they're gonna they're 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.200 gonna struggle to throw the ball. They don't go, they 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.000 don't go down the field much. We're gonna be sitting 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:27.840 in the zone anyway, just because we want to try 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.400 to continue to get pressure with our front seven. Uh, 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.240 you know, I it was encouraging to see that. What 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.520 my belief was in terms of vander Ish, I didn't. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.360 I didn't think we're gonna miss him that much. Last week. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.520 So that was that was positive. You know, Joe Thomas 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.000 and Jaylen Smith running around. Hopefully we can get the 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.200 same production out of those guys um in terms of safeties, 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.720 trying to fulfill that void. You know, you know who, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.320 you know who I'm who I'm trying to get in there, 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.440 Kyle going for for that boy, Reggie, that boy Reggie Robinson. 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.040 If you look at his his play to turn the 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.359 forced turnover ratio, I would say it's pretty high his 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.680 turnovers versus how many plays he's actually had in the NFL. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:06.159 So I say, let the boy roll. Hey, maybe that 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.320 play on special teams where he did punch the ball 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:12.880 out potentially provides an opportunity for him to see more 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.839 playing time and more defensive reps. And I talked to 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.320 We had the Cowboys Hour last night with C. J. Goodwin, 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.279 who was on the receiving side of the fumble recovery. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.920 And I asked him, I was like, so did you 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.839 think you were in? He goes, No, I was out. 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:28.880 I just tried to sell it. He's like, I knew 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:32.080 my foot was out the whole. I mean, speaking on Goodwin, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:33.800 Goodwin did a heck of a job coming in and 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.640 fulfilling that that spiral um. You know, I know he 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.520 didn't necessarily make a bunch of players, but he didn't 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.200 have to. The simple threat of him being there, I 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.600 think kept Jalen Hurts at Bay pretty much, you know, 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.720 at Bay for that second half. So it was very 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.520 encouraging to see them, you know, Mike Nolan expand his 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.240 his repertoire um and dig a little bit deeper into 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.640 his black book um to go into that bottletop defense 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.120 whereas three guys, three safeties across the top of and 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.640 you dropped that middle at that time, that middle safety, 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.680 you drop him down and said courage to kind of 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.760 watch over the quarterback. So that was encouraging to see 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.200 them expanded a little bit. And Mike Nolan talked about 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:10.600 that on Monday and he said it got to the 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:15.040 point where if CJ wasn't chasing him down himself, just 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.960 that threat, they felt like Jalen Hurts, like you said, 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.200 was kind of aware of it and was more hesitant 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.680 to run. And he only had maybe ten or twelve 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.920 yards rushing in the second half. You know they did, 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.480 they did bottle him up. That was big. Yeah, he 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.040 had four carries for sixteen yards when CJ. Goodwin was 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.480 at least in the formation or in that second half, 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.880 I think was maybe the stat and Rob you wrote 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.440 a really good piece about it on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.520 com that I read earlier this week, and even talking 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.960 with him last night. The thing about CJ. Goodwin is 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.120 he's one of those crazy stories of how he got 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.320 to the NFL. I really encourage everybody to go and 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.040 listen to the Cowboys Hour. Not for me, forget about me. 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.000 I'm talking about for CJ. Goodwin, because he was fantastic, 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.680 A great interview. A guy who was a basketball player 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.240 who worked on mel Blunt's farm, the Hall of Famer 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:08.080 from Pittsburgh, and went to a pickup basketball game against 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.160 the football coaching staff at the college he played basketball 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.360 at and they said, hey, come out to football practice. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.320 Turned him into a wide receiver. Then mel Blunt talked 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.240 to Steelers into trying him out, and then from the 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:24.040 Steelers tryout, turned around, signed and then ended up bouncing 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.040 around the league. Was turned into a corner during his 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.520 time and Atlanta, went to the Super Bowl with Atlanta, 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.880 and then has bounced around the league and ultimately settled 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.120 here in Dallas. Which by the way, was his childhood 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:38.640 favorite team always. So really really really cool story and 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.640 it was a great interview last night with Danny Serek 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.920 and company on the Cowboys Hour. So he was he 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.520 was in He's playing a basketball game and the football 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.679 coaches told him to come out for football after a 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:55.640 basketball game. That means he used all his files. Oh yeah, 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.400 what he said. Actually, what he said is that he 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.439 dunked on one of the football coach coaches and the 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.080 football coaches like, nah, come out to practice. Come on, Okay, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.959 I bet you they wanted to run them. I bet 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.480 you they wanted to run them. If that was what 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.160 it was they wanted to They wanted to put them 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.520 on the team so they could run lines and make 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.000 them pay for that dunk. But so, ways, really cool. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.400 You talk about a success story. You mentioned it's three 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.679 different programs. He was at Bethany College. Okay, he played 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.520 basketball there. Then he went to Fairmont State to play football, 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:30.359 and then the California University of Pennsylvania not California, Pennsylvania. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:34.640 Journey journeyman and uh man. Just finding a way to 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.480 get noticed, right, undrafted? What a story? Yeah, so so 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.120 rot what you're saying is the next celebrity kickball game. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.720 We should make sure that Kyle has his opportunity so 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.559 that we can get him in there at potential kicker 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:47.200 down the road. Is that what you're saying. You're saying 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.120 there's a chance. I'm telling you there's a chance. Let's 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.240 do Let's do it. Yeah, I need to get in 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:59.400 the kickball game. Look out. I've had commenters on the 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.080 show already tell me that I have the body of 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.960 a retired punter, so we might as well make it 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.520 come true and make it an active punter. Let's make it. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.400 Let's make it happen. So I'm not along the way. 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:13.199 Let's oh god, let's go ahead and talk about this 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.360 matchup between the Cowboys offense and this Giants defense, because 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.480 I want to know it's gonna be a sloppy weather game. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.640 And we looked at the weather earlier today and it 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.920 was it was fifty five lower. I mean, of course 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.720 it's gonna be in the middle of the afternoon, but sloppy, wet. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.640 It's gonna be raining up in New York kind of 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.079 like it is in Frisco for all of those who 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.760 are actually in the Metroplex. But really sloppy week of 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.760 game play up there at MetLife Field. But whenever you 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.120 talk about running the football, that might actually go into 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:46.959 your favor. And this is a Giants team that over 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.360 the last four weeks has given opponents at least one 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.280 hundred rushing yards after not doing it oh so much 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.920 the first dozen weeks of the season. But my question 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.840 to you, Isaiah's can Zeke replicate the week that he 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:00.719 had last week? It was a he's in high game 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.959 for Ezekiel Elliott, But can he do it again against 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.600 this Giants defense? And how can he? I think so? 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.560 I think, I think, I think we need to establish 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:12.320 that renting game. I think, especially going into a rivalry 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.960 game like this, it's gonna be physical. You can't can't 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.160 get around it. I don't care what the Giants are 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.520 playing for. What we're playing for is is gonna be 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.559 a physical game regardless. Now you throw the playoff applications 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.959 on top of that, and for both teams and guess what, Oh, 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:26.640 there's gonna be some hidden So we need to be 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.600 able to control the line of scrimmage. We need Zeke 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.760 to I don't even I don't even have to say 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.480 we need Zeke to you know, to get off and 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.600 be aggressive. He's going to do that. I think he 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.240 felt that flame last night or not last tip of 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:38.920 last week, and I think he plans on doing the 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.560 same thing. And I think there's no better team to 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:46.760 do it against them with than your rival Rob Yeah. Absolutely, 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.920 And you know what, he ran well in the first 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.320 game against the Giants. Nineteen carries, ninety one yards, two touchdowns. 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.360 It's kind of what I was saying a week or 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.719 so ago. I thought he ran pretty good earlier in 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.959 the season. They just they got behind and he fumbled 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.040 the ball and they did something to take themselves out 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.719 of the running game. Tony Pollard had five yards to 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.920 carry as well, so they ran okay against the Giants. 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.439 But I do expect the Giants to really be on 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.760 their keys this week because they got dashed by Baltimore 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.160 last week and a lot of a lot of teams 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.840 do the Cowboys did too. They do, they do. Heck, 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.800 they do a lot of funky stuff pre snap and 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.480 that can throw you off. But they're they're a pretty 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.800 solid run defense team overall this season, and I expect 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.320 them to be the focus to be much higher this week. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.520 That I was so happy to see the weather report 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.560 in New York for Sunday. I mean that's that's Zeke weather. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.920 It's football weather, and that's Zeke weather. I mean he 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.520 when you look at his career at Ohio State, he 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.439 played a lot of games in this kind of weather. 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.200 So I expect for him to play, you know, above 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:49.199 and beyond his level that he has been all season. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.959 And we know what Zeke hast at stake. Man, He's 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.480 right now sixty three yards away from a thousand yards 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.079 and what does that mean for him here in Dallas 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.480 is putting him in the company of Tony Dorsett and 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.280 him and Smith being the only running backs to ever 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:07.400 record four thousand yard excuse me, rushing yards in five years. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.880 So I mean, asides from the accolades and everybody knowing 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.080 what we have at stake here, I expect for Zeke 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:20.280 to be eteam. Now, I do want to point out 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.320 over the last four games this Giants run defense giving 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:28.439 up a hundred yards. I mean those teams were Seattle, Arizona, Cleveland, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.520 and Baltimore. And I mean those are four teams that 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.440 ran pretty well against the Cowboys this season. So I 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.640 mean there's a lot to look at whenever it comes 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.280 to this Giants team. We're gonna get into it a 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.000 little bit later on when we get into the pickums 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.400 and say it with your chest about how the Giants 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.920 had won four straight and now they've lost three straight, 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:50.120 all against really good playoff caliber teams, and so there's 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.840 this isn't a go ahead, let's win this game type 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.840 of game for the Cowboys. I mean, this is gonna 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.160 be a battle. I don't think this is gonna be 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.120 an easy win by any for Dallas. And I think 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.120 one of the reasons why is that defense and rob 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.640 when you look at the Cowboys in the success that 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.800 they had last week against Philadelphia, where did they have 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.520 that same kind of success against this this Giants defense? 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.440 Because I think the secondary is playing well together. I 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:21.880 think the front seven is pretty ruthless. They're not Philadelphia, 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.200 Washington Pittsburgh level, but they're still a pretty good front seven. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.040 But I want to know where the weakness is in 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.320 this Giants defense and how the Cowboys can exploit it. Well, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.040 that's a good question. I think I agree with you. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.320 I think they're pretty solid front to back. They've they've 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.760 had some problems recently, and I think some of it 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.400 has been their injuries in the secondary. So it's it's 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.520 it's a little bit like Philly last week, although I 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.240 think Philly Philly was kind of decimated. I just think 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:51.440 beyond Bradberry at cornerback, James Bradberry, they're they're kind of 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.080 young in the secondary at the coverage spots. And so 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.000 you look at the game last week or last time 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.880 in mid October, ceedee lamb a huge game and um, 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.280 you know against I think it was Darnay Holmes work 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.320 in the slot. Now, I don't know Isaiah Hack from 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.000 what you guys have seen, I probably expect them to 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.040 play some zone. I think they kind of do anyway, 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.240 but but I would imagine they try to keep things 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.560 in front of them, given that this is by far 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:21.680 the best trio receivers maybe they faced all years. Yeah, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.000 I definitely see them playing a two highest shield. I 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.920 don't I think, you know, to answer your question called 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.840 the weeks by their defense, I think it's their linebackers. 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.920 I think their second levels a little a little, a 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.640 little soft, little young. I think Martinez right there in 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.160 the middle, I think he's pretty dug one good, but 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.480 I think his his comrades on the side who we 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.240 got here. Yeah, yeah, those guys are those guys are 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.480 a little a little soft, little little tissue paper ish. 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.320 But so I think if we can, we can, if 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.040 our offensive lie can work their way up to the 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.120 second level, I think we can have some some huge 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:55.160 plays on the ground. Now, this is the NFC East battle. 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.000 It didn't matter when you're right, when you look at 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.200 schedule and you saw that we had the Giant the 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.920 last game, it wasn't gonna be an easy matchup in 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.760 in perfect form. Here we are having to play for 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:10.120 potentially playoff berth. But you're right, Rob, when you talked 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.840 about what c Lamb did versus the Giants in our 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.280 first matchup, he burned them. And just like Philly last week, 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.680 they tried to just say, hey, let's pick our poison. Right, 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.160 We're gonna pick the poison, and we choose Michael Gallup. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.280 We all they got poisoned by Michael Gallup in the 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.320 first half and they had to bring guys from awful 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.080 safety to play corner to stop the bleeding. But that's 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.640 what you get versus the Cowboys when you have three 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.120 receivers that can stretch the feel the way that they 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.880 can and Ceedee Lamb had that big game because he 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:42.440 was in the slot a lot and they had to 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.000 move down that nickel corner right now, like you said, 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:50.440 with the injuries that they have, you look for Xavier McKinney, 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.320 but he's a safety, but he does play a lot 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.720 in the slot to be matched up with Ceedee Lamb. Again, 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.760 they have to pick their poison. And with the way 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.560 that Andy Dalton is playing, I just to see us 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.600 go out on our shield, no matter how it goes, 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.520 I want to see it us go out firing and 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.760 to back door that you both of you guys comments. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:10.960 I think if you're if you're the defensive coordinator for 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.000 the Giants and you had to pick and choose between 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:14.720 do I want to stop the run primarily or do 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.800 I want to stop the pass primarily? Based upon Zeke's 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.200 year so far, even though I know he's still creeping 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.399 up on a thousand yards, I'm gonna go ahead and 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.240 rest on the shoulders up. Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:25.959 make Zeke get back to old Zeke Forum and make 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.000 him beat me. And I'm gonna put my I'm gonna 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.639 put my best six guys in the box, right because 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.480 most of the time will be in in eleven personnel, 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.720 so they can have six guys in the box and 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.520 we'll have five to six guys in the box and 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.840 guess what, Hey, my six guys are better than year 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.120 six guys. And I'm gonna make you prove it. I'm 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:43.840 gonna make you prove it. I am not gonna put 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.880 myself in a situation where I have to say, Okay, 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:47.840 my dbs are better than your receivers, because they know 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.240 that's not the case. That's a good point because you 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:55.120 know when you see comments pregame during every week about 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.280 how to approach the Cowboy's offense, it's always like, well 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:58.880 it starts with zeke, we gotta stop throw, We're gonna 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.600 stop the run. But when it got pretty toasty, it 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.880 got pretty toasty for Philly Secondary last week, So yeah, 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.760 you might need to change it up because Andy Dalton 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.280 is clicking with his wide receivers and with the protection 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.439 it's gotten better too. Yeah, that is and that's it, man. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.080 And you look at the numbers for the Dallas Cowboys 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.120 and just around the league. I mean, it's a comparison 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.720 thing that we do here and just the upper echelon teams, 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.960 you know, comparable to our defense being thirty second, But 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.600 on offense, my god, the numbers for our passing game 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.360 or two through the roof. I mean, we're in top 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.359 ten in passing. And I know I'm one of those people. Man, 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.280 I just want to see us ground and pound and 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.000 wear that clock out and phil you know, Philip position 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.680 ball control all of those things. But it's proven, man, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.560 these last couple of games that once our passing game 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.400 gets going, we're really hard to stop. Well, it's also 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.560 been proven that you can do both, and I think 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.520 that that's really kind of come to fruition in the 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.400 Minnesota game and in the game against Philadelphia last week, 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.280 where you did have a hundred yard rusher, but you 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.240 also had a ton of success with your receivers and 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:03.760 with the passing game. It's a marriage between the two 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.040 that's going to allow you to be the most successful. 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.199 And that's kind of where I think Kelln Moore and 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.919 Mike McCarthy are trying to get this offense to land 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.680 is right in that little that safe spot right in 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.240 the middle, and it's hard to do that. Well. The 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.880 trust tree, the trust tree of play, colleague, but it's 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.239 hard to do that. That's not an easy thing, and 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.439 that's why you have to have as many talented players 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.760 as the Cowboys do to try and at least even 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.960 attempt to get to that point. But I kind of 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:30.879 want to go back really quickly before we had to 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.680 break here and address something that Heckma said about Xavier McKinney. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.439 I really liked Xavier McKinney coming out of Alabama in 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.119 the draft. Last year. Rookie kind of got banged up 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.719 in training camp, didn't play until week twelve of the season, 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.520 but he's played over fifty percent of the snaps and 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:47.440