1 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: Fish Stripes Unfiltered episode twenty four, before we introduced our 2 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: special guest, my coast, Isaac Zoot, My good friend, Isaac, 3 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: How are you just a couple of days away from 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: the trade deadline? 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: How are we feeling? 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: What are the vibes going into that August second trade deadline? 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 3: Very excited, you know, very excited about our special guest today, 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 3: and it's it's peculiar times around the Marlin stratus here. 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Well, our guest today, he is part of the suns 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: Admitious podcast sports Grid Craig Misher, good friend as well 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: a neighbor in the press box. Craig, how are you 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: and how are you feeling about these upcoming days? 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm doing well, guys, thanks for having me. It's been 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: a while since we have all caught up. You know, 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: certainly it's been an interesting season to say the least. 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: But here we are a few days away the trade deadline, 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: and I'm sure that's what we're going to focus in 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: on a lot. And yeah, I mean, I'm I'm definitely 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: excited to have that day come to kind of see 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: where things are going forward there, that's for sure. 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: Before I get into that, I just want to ask 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: you how your trip to LA went with the All 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 1: Star Game and how many autographs did Hayes get? 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: It was fantastic. You know, we hadn't gone anywhere since 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. I wasn't I had not been on a 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: plane since twenty nineteen. We just were on the We're 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: always been on the safer side of things, just for 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: that's just who we are. And so I went, my 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: wife went, my daughter went, and I brought my son, Hayes, 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: who I talk about a lot. And so, you know, 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball was very kind. We ended up going 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: to a home run derby, All Star Game, Futures Game, 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: and even got there last the Friday before. So we 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: went to all the fan fest It's called Playballpark now, 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: but we went to playball parks. We went to all 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: that those festivities. But a lot of highlights. Kevin a 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: lot of highlights as far as autographs go. So he 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: got Vladimer Guerrero, Senior, Edgar Martinez, both Hall of Famers, 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: Lee Smith, Roley Fingers, Verus Jenkins. So he got all 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: those and then he and then there were some others 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: along the way too. But then at the end, for 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: we we you know, we didn't sit in our seats. 43 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: Our seats were just you know, I mean no, no 44 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: fault of anyone's is just to get it in the door. 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: You just got to take whatever you can. But I'm 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 2: very resourceful, so we figured out a way to sit 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: in better seats for both events. Home run derby. I 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: don't know if you guys saw this, but we caught 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: a home run ball from proto on so hit a 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: home run. We caught one and it was awesome. And 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: then the night of the All Star Game, as we 52 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: it was like seventh inn and eighth inning, my son 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: met Magic Johnson, which was also super cool. And then 54 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: really the highlight of them all was meeting Jason Bateman. 55 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: We met Jason Bateman and Jason Bateman too, so that 56 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: was and no one knew who he was. It's like, 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: I guess I just have an eye for those things. 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: So that was a really cool experience too, So meeting 59 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: all those celebrities and seeing all them and he was 60 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: like in the midst of it. So thanks for asking 61 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: about that. It was fun. 62 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it did sound very fun. So let's get right 63 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: into the Marlins looking out that twenty twenty two season. Craig, 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: is this what you expected out of them. Is this 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: what was expected? And how have they met your expectations? 66 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not I don't know. I'm not as 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm not as negative on the whole season as I 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: think that some other people are. I guess at the 69 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: end of the year, they're trending toward being probably nine 70 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: or ten games under, So I mean, I think that's 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: not what people expect, but we have to wait to 72 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: see if that ends up being the case. So right 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: now they're five under. I don't think their trajectory points 74 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: toward them being five hundred, but I don't think that 75 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: there's any reason why they can't be close, especially if 76 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: John Birdie comes back and Lozardo comes back and Edward 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: of bra I'm not sure, but those first two that 78 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: I mentioned, if those two come back, I think that 79 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: definitely adds a lot to the team. And the other 80 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: thing that I've mentioned so many times, and I think 81 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: it's probably the reason why the season feels so bad 82 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: is because it feels like they could have won so 83 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: many and they could have lost too, but it feels 84 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: like they could have won so many games because every 85 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: game in the ninth inning, you just have no idea 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: if they're gonna win or lose, like they're up one 87 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: or they're down one, or they're up to or they're 88 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: down too. And because of that, I think it's made 89 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: the season more compelling and more fun because you literally 90 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: can't turn the game off in the fifth inning. And 91 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: obviously part of that is because the offense, and I 92 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 2: get that. So I think their fangrafts number was around 93 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: seventy seven and a half or seventy eight, you know what, 94 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: they're gonna probably be like right around there. So I'm 95 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: not crushed by any means. I think that the season's 96 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: been okay, but very clearly next year, I mean, my gosh, 97 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: like six years in next year's got to be a 98 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: pretty big jump, I would say. 99 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: So, I guess it's safe to say that the team 100 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: had higher expectations for themselves. You know, obviously us and Vanagrass, 101 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: they knew that this was a seventy seven maybe an 102 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: eighty one team, but nowhere near a playoff contending team. 103 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: With that being said, they're only four and a half out, 104 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: but like you said, they're trunning towards you know, maybe 105 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 3: a ten. 106 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: Game out of five hundred team. 107 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: The consensus that they're going to be sellers. How much 108 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: selling do you see them doing it? They're going to 109 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: be like twenty nineteen where they sort of, you know, 110 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: make it match and be better next year, or it 111 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 3: will be a little bit more of a sell off. 112 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: Right. So there's a few things. There's a few things 113 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: that I would say that I think are important. And 114 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: by the way, this is no indictment on anybody's reporting 115 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: or mine or even anyone else. But I'm pretty comfortable 116 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: saying at this point that nobody has a clue. I 117 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: know that's not what you guys want to hear, but 118 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody truly knows their plan because I 119 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: don't think that they have fully decided on their plan 120 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: right now. I genuinely don't think that they have. There 121 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: is a part of them I feel that they feel, 122 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: which is accurate that like, realistically speaking, they're waking up 123 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: every morning and they're looking at the standings and Saint 124 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: Louis loses and Philadelphia lose it, and it's like, even 125 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: though the team is decimated, it's like we're four and 126 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: a half games under or I'm sorry, four and a 127 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: half games back or five games back. How do we 128 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: just take apart this team right now, when we're this close, 129 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: anything can happen. It's baseball. So that's one school of thought, 130 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: and I think that you have to respect that a 131 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: little bit. But I do think that there is the 132 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: other school of thought, which is August second comes and 133 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: you sort of play that what if game? We can 134 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 2: stay close? Maybe, and then now all of a sudden, 135 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: Saint Louis ads, and all of a sudden Philadelphia ads, 136 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden the Giants add. And now 137 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: you look at the schedule and you have the toughest 138 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 2: schedule in baseball in August. And here we were thinking 139 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: that we had a chance and kind of playing that game, 140 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: and now it's too late. We didn't trade the guys 141 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: that we could have. So with all those things being said, 142 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: I think that the expiring contract players are extremely likely 143 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: to go in one way or the other. I think 144 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: that that is I think that is a very strong possibility. 145 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: We've been over these names. I'm sure we will do 146 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: it again, but I really do think that they see that, 147 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: and then it does remain to be seen amongst the 148 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: other things. But I think most people know by now 149 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: if I have something, I'm happy to tell everybody everything 150 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: that I know. There are some things that I have 151 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: not said publicly that I do know, but again, you know, 152 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: potentially damaging, not knowing if deals are going to happen 153 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: or not. But as always, when it's all over, I 154 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: always take care of everybody and tell everybody here is 155 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: worth some of the things that they were thinking. Here 156 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: are some of the things that they were doing. So 157 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to go buy that again here at this deadline. 158 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: Well, so I guess a question that would be Germaine, 159 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 3: no matter what they end up doing, would be okay, 160 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: center field, they haven't had one since Starling Marte. Do 161 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: they two questions I guess would be one. Do they 162 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: see Bladey, you know, JAG's come up, he's looked okay? 163 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: Do they see Bladet as that guy or would they 164 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: prefer him in one of the corners where he is 165 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: more comfortable And you know, let's be honest, he's not 166 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: a modifight center fielder, right and too obviously we have 167 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: to ask about the Pirate center fielder. He did come 168 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: back from that obliqu injury a lot quicker than most 169 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: of us thought. So now, maybe did that scare the 170 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: Pirates into saying, oh shit, we better, we better move 171 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: him or are they Are they holding still in their 172 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: position to keep their center field. 173 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I'll probably be forgetting somebody. 174 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: But I think in a perfect world for them, they 175 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: would have I mean, let's let's just call what it is. 176 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: They would have avisil Garcia in right field, provided he's 177 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: the guy that they thought he was right like, so 178 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: he would play right field. They would have a elite 179 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: type center fielder. At this point. The Sanchez thing did 180 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: not work out, both offensively and defensively, and I think 181 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: that when they at the end of the season or 182 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: next year, when they look back, they're gonna say that 183 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: Sanchez disappointed them offensively and they were just totally wrong defensively. 184 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: I think that that is something that they'll end up saying, hey, 185 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: like that was just a misfire. We thought he could 186 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: play center and he cannot. And then I think left 187 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: field is Whearabladet plays. So I think that's the key. 188 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: And so I do think that it provided so Lair 189 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: doesn't opt out and he comes back, I think he's 190 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: the full time designated hitter in twenty twenty three, and 191 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: I think that that would probably be the best position 192 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: for him. He's definitely played better Isaac and left than 193 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: maybe they thought. But let's call it what it is. 194 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: He probably should not be playing every day in left 195 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: field also, and so that's kind of the way that 196 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: I see it. But to answer your question the long way, 197 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: I don't think that Blade is the long term center fielder, 198 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: but he can play center very clearly, and I think 199 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: they'd like to play him and left or right. 200 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would have to agree with that. 201 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: And I'll follow up with one more name that I 202 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: just have heard rumblings about, which I don't think is 203 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: realistic at all, just because of the arbitration price the 204 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: Dodgers trading maybe a. 205 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: Cody bellacher guy. 206 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: It would solve two needs, a left handed bat, power bat, 207 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: and a center fielder. 208 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: Is that something you've heard any rumblings on? 209 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: You know? 210 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: I mentioned it on one of my shows his name 211 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: the other day, because only because the Dodgers tend to 212 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: get a little crazy at the deadline, they tend to 213 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: do things that you really don't expect. So I haven't 214 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: heard that, but it wouldn't surprise me. Remember this is 215 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: a team that acquired Manny Machado. You darve It and 216 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: Max Suers or back to back to back, something along 217 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: those lines. So you can only expect that come next week, 218 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: the Dodgers are going to do something insane, and and 219 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: people forget that they got sures Are last year, right, Like, 220 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: we don't even remember that they got arguably one of 221 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: the best pictures in baseball to try to win the 222 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: World Series. So I fully expect them to do something insane. 223 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: But I don't know if that is trading Bellinger or 224 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: getting someone else. I just I don't know. I haven't 225 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: heard that though. 226 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: I think Craig you mentioned we mentioned a little bit 227 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: of the veterans that could possibly beat out. You know, 228 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: what is one name that you could kind of tell 229 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: us that won't be on in Miami Marlin after that 230 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: trade deadline? So in August third, who is one name 231 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: that wouldn't be a Marlin? 232 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can't say anyone for sure, because 233 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: that's not you never know how things happen. And then Kevin, 234 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: you know, a guy gets hurt tomorrow and that like 235 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: changes everything. So you just you just don't know. But 236 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: if I had to guess and take it, you know, 237 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: an opinion just based on from what I understand is 238 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: I think that in some way or another, whether it's 239 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: via trade, and probably most likely via trade, but via 240 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: trade or DFA and then trade. I think Jesus Agular's 241 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: last days are coming here with the Marlins. 242 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: He's gotta show love to me. 243 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: He was their most valuable player in twenty twenty one. 244 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 2: He was the one guy in twenty twenty one when 245 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: the Marlins needed a hit, he gave him a hit 246 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: every single time. He was their most clutch player. He 247 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: was on pace to drive in one hundred runs. Even 248 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: after Adam Duvall left. He didn't really have a lot 249 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: of lineup protection and he was still really good. Maybe 250 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: what can happen is what happened with him in Milwaukee 251 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: and Tampa, which is he fell off a little. Some 252 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: team came in and he got revitalized and honestly a 253 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: great pickup for the Marlins cost them nothing but a player. 254 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: Maybe they could have sold high on last year, you know, 255 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: figured out some things they were They did not choose 256 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: to do that, and I think that August the second, 257 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: either a trade or something else, I think they got 258 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: to take a look and see what Leywin Diaz can do. 259 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: And by the way. I mean, I may be wrong 260 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: on him too. He has not hit at all in 261 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: the big leagues, like at all. So I know he 262 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: almost hit a home run the other day, but let's 263 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: let's see real, let's be real. He hasn't hit. So 264 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: he they got he They got to see if this 265 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: guy is something. 266 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: I think at some point there was a ball to 267 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: the right field wall and in that red ball part, 268 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: which you know it's pretty easy to hit it out. 269 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so close, so close. If you can't hit the 270 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: ball out there, where you're gonna hit the ball out, please. 271 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: That's definitely not alone. 272 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: D I guess that transitions me into you know your 273 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: boy they got he's a little banged double right now? 274 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: Garret Cooper, you mentioned so laire would you figure it would 275 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: be the DH next season? Cooper has been one of, 276 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: if not the best pure hitters on this Martals team 277 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: since he's been here since twenty eighteen. Almost you to 278 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: think All Star for the first time. Congrats to him 279 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: on that. Where do you see him playing? I know 280 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: the Dodgers expressed interest in him. I don't know how 281 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: much value he would have and would it be smart 282 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: for Miami to even part with one of their best 283 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: offensive guys. 284 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess they have to ask themselves 285 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: the question that if what I'm saying is accurate, and 286 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: they and they decide at some point to trade or 287 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: move on from Aguilar. His Contragular's contract is up, so 288 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: very clearly, I don't think he's gonna be re signed. 289 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: So that's, you know, leads me to that path. Now 290 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: if they do the same with Cooper, then now we 291 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: have to start talking about twenty twenty three. And while 292 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: Cooper's overall numbers dipped a lot in July and he's 293 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: I think he's going through the worst stretch of his career, 294 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, in July two, where's the replacement there? Now? 295 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Is it just that simple that 296 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: they could get another first Basement or DH to play 297 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: every day? Maybe you guys think so. I'm not sure. 298 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 2: The one thing that you know about Cooper, which is 299 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: sort of like Wendel, I think to a degree, and 300 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: I think the Marlins recognize this too, is they simply 301 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 2: don't have a lot of guys in the lineup when 302 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: they come up that are gonna be up there for 303 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: thirty seconds. You know, it's like this guy is gonna 304 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: take a pitch and foul them off and take a pitch, 305 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: and it's like and at bat happens when Garrett Cooper 306 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: is at the plate. Sometimes it ends in a hit 307 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: or a double. Sometimes it ends in a strikeout. But 308 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: they have to compile some some players in a lineup 309 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: that are going to give you some good at bats. 310 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: They only have two or three of those guys. The 311 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: other guys are like strike one, ball one, strike two, 312 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: strike three, you good bye, you know, And and I 313 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: think that's what they have to weigh if they if 314 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: they have someone in the minors that they feel maybe 315 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: it's gior In Carnaciona or somewhere else, that they compare 316 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: with Lewin Diaz, and they feel it's time to move 317 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: on from Cooper. He made the Ulster team and sell 318 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: high maybe, So if I had to predict, I think 319 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: Cooper is back with the Marlins, and I don't think 320 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: he's traded next week. 321 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about the other big name 322 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: that has been mentioned, and the one that just pitched 323 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: last night against the Cardinals had a key Titus career 324 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: high for eleven k's Pablo Lopez. What are you hearing 325 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: on Pablo's possibility of being dealt in this deadline and 326 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: what are some teams that may have interesting Pablo Lopez. 327 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: It's they've gotten a lot of interest. I'm sure that 328 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: everybody knows that, doesn't it You know, doesn't take a 329 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: genius to know that or understand it. So this it's 330 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: very complicated with the deadline and with a player like Lopez, 331 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: because he helps you for the free helps you now, 332 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: he helps you for the future. But it's it's tough 333 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: because we're right back where we were in April again 334 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: with him. I would make the argument that the highest 335 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: if we're just talking trade value for a player, because 336 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: let's be clear, I don't think they're going to extend 337 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: Pablo Lopez. There's been no conversation about it for him. 338 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: If I was him, what I want to be extended 339 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: at this point, I am so close to free agency. 340 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: I'm a high end pitcher in Major League Baseball. I 341 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: want to see this through. My understanding is there's been 342 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: no discussion as far as that they extended Sandy. That's 343 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: the only one for the time being that's going to 344 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: happen with So outside of that April where he was 345 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: pictuer of the month. Will will he ever be better 346 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: than where we sit right now? I think you have 347 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: to ask yourself that question. That was a tough ballpart 348 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: a pretty good lineup, and he pitched in front of 349 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: more people advanced scouting for him than he ever will 350 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: have been. One two in Steady blows him away with 351 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: a fast ball up. Pablo Lopez matches a career high 352 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: with eleven strikeouts. So what do they do? So what 353 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: do they do? Do they do they keep them? Do 354 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: they just you know, roll the dice that you know, 355 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: June and July with Pablo are not going to be 356 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: in August and September, and he's already reached his innings limit. 357 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't envy the seat that Kim 358 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: is in right now having to make this decision. But 359 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: if you're asking me what I think I think they 360 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: were going to trade him. I do think they're going 361 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: to trade him before next week. This is my opinion only. 362 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: This does not come from fact. I can say right now, 363 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: I don't think that they have any deal close at all, 364 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: But I do think that that a trade will come 365 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: for with him on Tuesday. I don't it's just a gut, 366 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: a gut feeling that I have right now that they're 367 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: they're taking a very big risk by not doing it. 368 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: So that's that's where I stand. I think that'll be 369 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: the big deal that they make. But again, opinion only 370 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 2: on that. 371 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 5: Well, Craig, this is kind of my read on the 372 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 5: Marlins when it comes to this, is that they're just 373 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 5: so confident in their pitching development that they recognize Sandy 374 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 5: is unique and that he was a guy worth paying 375 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 5: to stick arounds. But they're probably not going to give 376 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 5: out a second big deal to any other pitcher because 377 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 5: they feel so confident in being able to turn out 378 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 5: guys that can feel eighty percent ninety percent of Pablo's shoes. 379 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 5: And I think time will only tell whether that confidence 380 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 5: is justified. For me, I'm not a fan of it. 381 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 5: I feel like Pablo is being taken for granted. The 382 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 5: fact that he's been so good now really three straight 383 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 5: years whenever he's been healthy, that being the big. 384 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: Big part of it. That's the big part of it. Yeah, 385 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: But I would say, I mean, I mean, Eli, I mean, 386 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: some of this does have to be the forward thinking 387 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: point of view. And again, and this is again, it's 388 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: just coming from me, like, if you're a scout for 389 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: the White Sox, the Twins, the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Padres, 390 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: trying to think of it any there's about eight teams. 391 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 2: If you're a scout of any of those teams and 392 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: you're watching Pablo Lopez pitch and he comes out of 393 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: the game and you close your eyes, you can see 394 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: that guy pitching Game seven of the World Series that 395 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: I watched right there. What team would not unload to 396 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: get that guy to win it all? I can make 397 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: the cases better than Luis Castill. I mean, I really can. 398 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 2: But that's the dynamic of advanced scouting. That person who 399 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: is there now goes back and they huddle up in 400 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: their war room and the trade deadline, and that person 401 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: is pounding on the table like moneyball. We gotta get 402 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: this Pablo Lopez, Like I saw this guy pitch. This 403 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: guy is incredible. And then they go through it ELI 404 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, guy's only throwing one hundred and 405 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: ten innings. Wait a second year. If he's so good, 406 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: how has he not gotten to one hundred and fifty 407 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: innings in a major League baseball season. It's not like 408 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: he's just came in the league, he's been around for 409 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: a while, and these are all and then the Marlins 410 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: have to decide, well, what if he is gonna be 411 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: healthy for the next completely healthy for the next two years. 412 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: So I mean, I personally, I don't know that I 413 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: agree with no other pitcher will be extended long term. 414 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: And I don't know that I agree that they could 415 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: just wave a magic wand over every pitcher that comes 416 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: into the organization. But when you look at the depth 417 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: and you see that Jake Eater, who they think is 418 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: gonna be a star like Max Meyer in a way, 419 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 2: is gonna be ready for spring training to throw one 420 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 2: hundred innings next year, maybe a little bit more. They 421 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 2: still very much believe in Jesus Lozardo like and that 422 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: guy is coming to Edward Cabrera. Difference of opinion on 423 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 2: him in a lot of different ways. But when he 424 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: has pitched, he has looked really good too. They have 425 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: found a way to make Braxton Garrett viable, which we 426 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: never thought would have happened. So and Brian Howen could 427 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: probably come up and be a fifth starter on any 428 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: team in Major League Baseball. This guy's gonna pitch the contact. 429 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: This guy's gonna be a horse. He's gonna throw one 430 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty innings. Thera is gonna be four. He's 431 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: gonna win eight games, right like they have so many 432 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: any of these guys, they can't just keep sitting back 433 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: and saying, oh, well, you know, we'll try free agency, 434 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: which they have to be bold, I think, and they 435 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: have to do something now, whether it's Lopez, as I 436 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: said last night, or anyone else to go into next year. 437 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: The way that they're constructed now I think is an impossibility, 438 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: and I think that they think it's an impossibility. 439 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: I guess my follow up sort of correlates with with 440 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: Eli's question, because if they do do something bold and 441 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: trade a Pablo Lopez, you just assume it's to a contender, 442 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: and you'd assume that that contender doesn't want to, you know, 443 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: lose their offensive impact. What kind of return it would 444 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: the Marlins be looking for in a Pablo Lopez trade? 445 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: Are they looking for major league ready bats in the 446 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: minor league? Are they looking for a major league or 447 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: you know, someone that's already performed. 448 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: The major leagues? 449 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: What exactly would they be looking for that would say okay, 450 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: we're okay with trading Pablo. 451 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: I don't know that it necessarily has to be someone 452 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: that is a current center fielder in Major League Baseball. 453 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: I don't think that that has to be the case. 454 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: But I think it's probably somebody on the cuss again. 455 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: And I know that that could bring back some bad 456 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: vibes for people. It's like, oh, didn't we go through 457 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: this with Lois Brinson and some other guys. And I 458 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: understand that, but at some point you got to put 459 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 2: I mean, it's cliche, but you gotta. But Isaac, you've 460 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: got to put your chips on the table again, and 461 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: you gotta try it again. And I know that there. 462 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: You know, some people would be very cynical. Oh my gosh, 463 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: they got this player. He's in Triple A, he's got 464 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: sixteen home runs on basis three thirty five percent. He's 465 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: gonna come to Miami. He's not gonna be good. Yeah, 466 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you can think all those things, but they 467 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: gotta keep trying. Like I mean, I don't know what 468 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: else there is to say about it. I think that 469 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 2: if Brian, I mean Brian Reynolds not been traded. So 470 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: if if Brian I've told people this, if Brian Reynolds 471 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: is traded. Ever, I think he's on the Marlins, but 472 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 2: they just refuse to trade him. That's that's what's going on. 473 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: But if they do, I think he's on the Marlins. 474 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: They it's it's not a doable trade for them with 475 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: with what they've been in the past asked for. I 476 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: don't know if anything's current or not. So what would 477 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: their lineup look with Reynolds in center field with another 478 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: hitter coming in a deal for Pablo Lopez? I mean, 479 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: then you're talking La Day in left field. If Avis 480 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: el Garcia works out in right field, hayesus Sanchez against 481 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: righty's forever and ever and no more against lefties right 482 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: like in the outfield, like there there are there are 483 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: some pieces and plans for them, so or a third 484 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: basement in a trade, a shortstop maybe in a trade, 485 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: like all these things. They have so many places to fill. 486 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: My concern is that can they even do this in 487 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: the offseason? Right? Can they get all those pieces filled? 488 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 2: I just don't know. So I think some of it 489 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 2: has to start now. All of the columns that you're 490 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: reading on MLB dot com and the Athletic, and I 491 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: mean you pick your pick your most respected column right 492 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 2: now and eil And and Jeff pass A ESPN pick 493 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: your most respected columnist and the person who you trust 494 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: the most nationally, and there's almost no mention of the 495 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: Marlins right there's almost nothing. It's it's just right, and 496 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: there's a reason because nobody knows right now because they're 497 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: not one hundred percent sure on what to do. They 498 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: will be very shortly, but as of right now, they 499 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: have a path, they have an idea. But until that 500 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: gets executed and the calls come in and they're going 501 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: back and forth, that's where I step in at that point, 502 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: and that's where I'm able to. But it just hasn't 503 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: happened yet, nothing has been serious. 504 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: I really hope they don't let these games with the Reds, 505 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 3: you know, sort of change the direction that they should 506 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 3: be going, because I think I'm with you that no 507 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: matter how close they are, they're not better than the 508 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: Giants in my opinion, they're not better than the Phillies 509 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 3: in my opinion. 510 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: So no, but they but they can't make trades. Everyone 511 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: wants everybody gone, I get it, but they can't make 512 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 2: trades that are gonna hurt them next season. Like they 513 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: have to be very careful of that. So, like you 514 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 2: mentioned Cooper, no problem trade Garrett Cooper. But it's not 515 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: that easy, like who's coming back like now all of 516 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: a sudden, they got to fill that position too. It's 517 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: very tricky with what they have to do because and 518 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: they also have to keep that Fangrafts two percent semblance 519 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: alive that hey, we're still in this thing, and if 520 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: we just just completely punt, what is that show we 521 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: had no faith whatsoever in the guys that we signed. 522 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: We don't think that we can win even though we're 523 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: four games out, Like there are some things that they 524 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: can and can't do that could change. And I know 525 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: it sounds crazy. I didn't want to think this, but 526 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: either loose to Reds, loose to Reds again, lose to 527 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: the Mets, it's a much easier Right on Tuesday next week, 528 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, we're done for sure. So it's like, 529 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: I personally hope for them that there's more clarity that 530 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: they're either like right there a game out or they're 531 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: just completely out of it. But look, I'm looking at 532 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: the same lineups as you guys, Like it's hard to 533 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 2: look at this and say like they really. 534 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: Have a change. 535 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Craig. 536 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 5: Craig, it's not only about the standings. It's about, as 537 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 5: you said, the available players. They have six guys on 538 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 5: the IL at the same time, and a lot of 539 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 5: them are not really that close to coming back. There 540 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 5: are a few like Zardo is almost back, and I 541 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 5: guess Anthony Bender is almost back in Cooper ull right 542 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 5: back soon enough, but it's a lot of rotation. It's 543 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 5: still half of their lineup that you just that weren't 544 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 5: playing well when they were healthy, and then when they're 545 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 5: coming back. 546 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: It is But Eli and Eli, you're one hundred percent right, 547 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: and they have not done this with me, but I 548 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: will play their side of it just for Devil's advocate, right. 549 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: What they would say, they have not said this to 550 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: me and want to be clear, is they would say, Eli, 551 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: did you watch the twenty twenty season when we had 552 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: twenty one guys on COVID and we ended up making 553 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: the postseason in two months? Like they could use that 554 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: realistically and say anything can happen. It's baseball. I understand it, 555 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: and I don't believe it either, but you have to. 556 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: You have to give a little bit of the benefit 557 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: of the doubt that if you had no idea who 558 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: was on the team, and you had no idea who 559 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 2: was on the injury list. And I told you that 560 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: on the twenty seventh of July, the Marlins were four 561 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: and a half games out, We universally would be saying 562 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 2: they had a good year. You would be absolutely saying 563 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 2: they had a good season, when realistically we know that 564 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 2: it hasn't gone exactly the way that they thought. But 565 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 2: your point is, well, taken too many guys out right 566 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: now to think that they could win the World Series. 567 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I mean it's ridiculous. 568 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 4: I agree. 569 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 3: Well, I want to ask you know, the availability of players. 570 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: It's something that's been also been going all over Marlin twitters. 571 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 3: One guy in Triple A Jackson has just been hitting 572 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 3: hits lefties. Miami's the worst team in all Major League 573 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: Baseball against hitting lefties. 574 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: What them's Gerard? The other one is Charles LeBlanc. Yeah. 575 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 2: They they swear they're. 576 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: Going with Astudio and Luke Williams that second and third, respectively, 577 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 3: is the way to go. 578 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how they do it. 579 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 3: This is late July, their four and half games out, 580 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 3: but they're going with these guys. 581 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 2: Why Because they're just not huge believers in Charles LeBlanc. 582 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what else to tell you. This is 583 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: the same situation last year with Bryce and Brigman. They 584 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: you know, no offense to those players. They're probably going 585 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 2: to go on to have major league careers, whether it's 586 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: with the Marlins or somewhere else, but they don't believe 587 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 2: in them like you guys do. And that's and and 588 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: there's it's just a simple recipe right there. I you know, obviously, 589 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: if they believe that those players were going to come 590 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: up and help and help them win, they would be 591 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: called up crack towards left field. 592 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 5: That is an absolute bomb. 593 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: It's out of here. Charles LeBlanc hit one halfway up 594 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: the perm They don't believe in it. I'm not saying 595 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: they don't like the players, they just don't believe that 596 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: they can. So when I said this about Bryson Brigman 597 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: last year, you know what happened, Oh my gosh. Everybody's like, 598 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: oh wow, they don't know what they're doing. Brigman's good 599 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: and maybe he is, and we just don't know. This 600 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: is the same thing with Charles LeBlanc. Put him in 601 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: the same category, going right. 602 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: Now, Craig, there's a report by John Hayman that said 603 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: Marlin Stance, everyone's available, but Sandy is there any I 604 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: assume it's because he's injured, but is there any reason 605 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: why Jazz wasn't mentioned along with Sandy as possibly and 606 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: untouchable there. 607 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: I don't comment on other people's reporting, and I know 608 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: John real well, Isaac. He also followed up with a 609 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: different tweet thirty minutes later. You may add that to 610 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 2: the puzzle, which basically said that you know, I mean, 611 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. Again, listening on guys, Yes, they're listening 612 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: on guys. Trading guys is a different story if jazz 613 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 2: was gonna be If they were going to trade Jazz, 614 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 2: it certainly wouldn't be. Now the guy's out for the 615 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: year and cannot help anyone, so or technically not out 616 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: for the year, but he could be out for the 617 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: year and it is unlikely to help anyone. So why 618 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 2: would if they were going to make a bold move 619 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 2: like that, that to me is a winner move. So again, 620 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: everybody has their own source of reporting and their own 621 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: way of doing things. The last couple of years, I 622 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: personally have chosen that unless I really feel strongly about 623 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: something that I can double triple source that I feel 624 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: like is close. That's when I'm jumping in at this point, 625 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: because I don't get paid to do the other stuff anymore, 626 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: So I can't consume myself of being on social media 627 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: fifteen hours day. 628 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 4: Can't do it. 629 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: The only other two players I want to ask about 630 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: were about Steven Okert and Anthony Bass. What's been the 631 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: latest on those guys, because two relievers that are probably 632 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: one of the better ones on the market along with 633 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: Bednar and possibly some of. 634 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 4: The Detroit Tigers guys. 635 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: So what is you know, what would you say is 636 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: the latest song Basnocre possibly getting dealt. 637 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: Along with me believing that, along with me believing that 638 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: Aguilar is a potential candidate to be traded or go 639 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: along with me believing that Pablo Lopez will be traded, 640 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: I do believe Anthony Bass has a good shot to 641 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: go somewhere else. He's had a fantastic year, and you know, 642 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: the Marlins give them a lot of credit for finding 643 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: the niche there of putting him in the seventh I 644 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: really don't know what they're doing now with the knife 645 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: like this, This to me has me totally perplexed because 646 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: I thought they were going to give Regive Bass a 647 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: shot to close games and the game that he blew 648 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: the other day, Like I mean, I guess partially it 649 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: was his fault, but I don't know. Does he blow 650 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: that game if that error doesn't happen, I'm not sure. So, 651 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: so he has an option for next season, and as 652 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: I mentioned in the Herald, now you have to start 653 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: thinking about payroll. So they so they have an option 654 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: on Bass for next year, which is three million dollars 655 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong on that, 656 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: right and so on a Marlins payroll that's probably going 657 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: to be if we had to guess, best case scenario, 658 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: what twentieth in the big leagues, twenty first in the 659 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: big league? Somewhere along those lines, can the Marlins. Can 660 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: the Marlins pay a seventh inning guy three million dollars? 661 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: The answer is unlikely. They like the guys who are 662 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: coming behind him, Simpson Nordy, those are two names to watch, 663 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: so Okred becomes a possibility as well. I do think 664 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: they'll trade Anthony Bass. 665 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 5: You just touched on something very quickly that I was 666 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 5: wondering about, which is the payroll, because even that's not 667 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 5: just an offseason thing, that is a current deadline decision thing. 668 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 5: When you talk about who they might trade for a 669 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 5: player's under contract they might acquire. It's like with you 670 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 5: have to understand exactly what budget you're going to be 671 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 5: working with next year in the year beyond. And so 672 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 5: what sounds like your expectation is that the payroll is 673 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 5: going to stay sort of where it is this year, 674 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 5: which is what twenty fifth, twenty fourth the big League's 675 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 5: like eighty million, or is there any hope that they 676 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 5: bump that up a little bit considering that life is 677 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 5: back to normal in a lot of ways, and there 678 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 5: are people know how much revenue this organization is taking 679 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 5: in even if they cry poor. 680 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: Right, So I think I just said that like twenty 681 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: of twenty first. I think that that's fair. So yeah, 682 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: I do think that a bump will come, but I 683 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: don't ever think they're going to be in the top 684 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: ten or anything like that. And their ticket sales and 685 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: their attendance represents that number, so I think they're going 686 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: to be better representative than their ticket sales in terms 687 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: of payroll. I don't think they'll be twenty ninth anymore, 688 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: twenty eighth anymore, but you know twenty second, eli probably 689 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: twenty third somewhere along those lines, a bump of some kind, 690 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: and again just through arbitration, and depending on what happens 691 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: with Lopez. If they bring Lopez back, that's a huge bump. 692 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: Cooper is going to get a bump. If they have 693 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: Anderson back, he gets a bump too. And I know 694 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: there's some offset there with Aguilar, but I just I 695 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: think that they're going to have to add some salary 696 00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: to be more competitive for sure. 697 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 4: Well, I think unless Kevin, I think you have one 698 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 4: more thing here. 699 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: My thing is not working. 700 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask Migi getting I went dark. 701 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so with Migi getting. 702 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: Recording, Max Meyer had Tommy John before he did. I 703 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: think that they kicked you off. 704 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 4: That's what. 705 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: Oh actually sorry, that was the next thing. 706 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: Any oh I brought that up? 707 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, any other thing on Max Meyer. Just I 708 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 4: think you guys know the outcome there, Okay, But. 709 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: Does that change anything in the Marlin's eyes, you know 710 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: about I. 711 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: Don't think so. No, I don't think so. Again, they 712 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: they think very highly of Jake Eater, They think very 713 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: highly of Hayes Ulzardo. Regardless of how you want or 714 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: I want to feel about hazes Lozardo, they really do 715 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: not just in from a development point of view, they 716 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: do have enough pitching to maintain I personally think that 717 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 2: they do. And the other thing too, that and I 718 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: always find interesting, is like five starters, five starters, five starters, 719 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: Like the fifth starter on even some of the better 720 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: teams in Major League Baseball is a league average pitcher, 721 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: and they always are going to have an above average 722 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: pitcher there. So I no, I don't think that the 723 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: Meyer thing is is is relevant in the discussion. It 724 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: just is one less guy that they have. But obviously 725 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: I feel horrible for him. 726 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: I mean, that's there's another There's like four or five 727 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: guys on this team that have really sustained that injury. 728 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: You know, it's my it's either it's Braxton, it's Zardo. 729 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: If it were me, I would be a little bit, 730 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 3: you know, concerned. And that whole twenty twenty draft, you've 731 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 3: you've traded or and now two of them have had 732 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 3: you know, are going to be injured for a while, 733 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 3: two of them have been traded. It's it's interesting how 734 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: that they were so excited about that draft of six pitchers, Dax. 735 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: Fulton, I think too, so No, I really again, I 736 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: think that, And they drafted pitchers again, and the third 737 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: round pick that they got this year in particular, is 738 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: the one I think that's worth watching for the future 739 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: at least my understanding on that. But I do I 740 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: think that they've got enough. They never Michael always said 741 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: you can never have enough pitching. He's right, because you 742 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 2: know here they here they were in July with an 743 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: opener again and starting their ninth starter again. And that's 744 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: that's always going to be true of every team. But 745 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: there comes a point where if you're only going to 746 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: score one or two runs a game, every single game, 747 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 2: it's really hard to put on the face and say, hey, 748 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: we can hit. Because they just haven't done it. 749 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: Craig, I wanted to ask you about what the future 750 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: shortstop could look like, because maybe's getting a little older 751 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: as we go. Have they looked into a possible future young, 752 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: controllable shortstop or what won't be the word on that? 753 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I really haven't heard anything along those 754 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 2: lines yet, So your guess is as good as mine. 755 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 2: They certainly could make a move in the off season. 756 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: They can make a move next week, but they have 757 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 2: not tipped their hand as far as where they're gonna 758 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 2: go there. The one thing that I would just emphasize 759 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: is the expiring contracts. I mean, I think we're pretty 760 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: clear now at this point that those that they that 761 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: they recognize in the position that they're in with those 762 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: players not being re signed, that there's a chance that 763 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 2: those guys go. I think Miguel Rolass has a contract 764 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 2: for next year, if I'm not mistaken too, So that's 765 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 2: part of any conversation that would happen. Another team would 766 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: have to make a decision on that as well. I 767 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 2: see Blyer here. I have not heard Blier's name brought 768 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: up at. 769 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: All that that was a strange extension. 770 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 3: Obviously it's you know, hindsight is always twenty twenty, but 771 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 3: that seemed like a strange one given his age and 772 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 3: type of pitcher he is. 773 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: But I think that's about where we ended. 774 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 3: There's one question from Twitter that we just helped the 775 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 3: need to ask, you know, from your good friend Alex Ferrare. Oh, 776 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 3: we chose one of the two. We're gonna go with 777 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 3: question number two. You have to rank these pizza styles 778 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 3: in order. New York Detroit, Chicago Deep Dish, and Chicago 779 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 3: Thin What. 780 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: Detroit is not something I'm familiar with. I've never had. 781 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: Can you guys familiarize me with that? 782 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: No idea? 783 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: Okay? So, so my favorite square Square Square Okay, So 784 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:23,479 Speaker 2: my favorite pizza in South Florida, and I've lived here 785 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 2: long enough to have seen the place open in the seventies, 786 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: I think I was very young, but then in the 787 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 2: eighties eating there for sure. Is a place in North 788 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: Miami called Steve's Pizza. Steve's Pizza is New York style pizza, 789 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: and to me it's still is at the top of 790 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: all the pizza that I've tried here in South Florida. 791 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 2: So that so so New York style would be number 792 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 2: one there. When I lived in I lived in Sarasota, 793 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: Florida for almost three years, and there was a place 794 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: called Krusty Louis that was owned by people who came 795 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 2: from Chicago. The west coast of Florida has a lot 796 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 2: of people from Ohio from the Midwest that they come 797 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: down for vacation. They end up living there and this 798 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 2: family ended up, you know, starting a pizza joint. There 799 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: was called Krusty Louise. And they had unbelievable Chicago style pizza. 800 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: So I would say that that is number two, and 801 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 2: then what were the other options? Because Detroit was not one, 802 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 2: so the other one was thin Chicago. I don't even 803 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: know what that would be. So the first, the first, 804 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: the ones are the ones for me. 805 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: Okay, well there's your there's your answer, Alex. So we'll 806 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: wrap it up here. Craig, thank you so much for 807 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: coming on. We very much appreciate it. Eli, thanks for 808 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: being on with us. Isaac is always thank you for 809 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: being here. We'll wrap it up right here. From from Craig, 810 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 1: from Eli, from Isaac, from myself. See you guys all. 811 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 2: My name is Noah. 812 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: No I'm I'm sorry. 813 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no burger. 814 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 4: We'll see you guys. 815 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: We'll see you guys in two weeks after the trade deadline, 816 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: piece 817 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 4: A nine