1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: This is the Draft Prospect Review podcast on Patriots dot 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Com Radio. Welcome to the NFL Draft. The Draft Prospect 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Review Podcast is your source for all the latest news 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: and information on the NFL Draft. The new England Patriots 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: flag now here to preview the cornerbacks. The writers of 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Patriots dot Com. Well, we are rounding our way around 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: the basis here and coming down the home stretch as 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: we continue our look at defense and specifically we talk 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: about the secondary a little bit. We're gonna start with 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: cornerbacks today on our draft podcast Previews. Cornerback I think 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: is a spot, guys, and I'm with Mike Deso and 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: Matise Bauman as always here for our podcast. Corner is 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: a spot, guys that I think has got to be 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: at the top, maybe if not the top, but in 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: the top one or two positions of need for the Patriots. 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I think this is really a possibility for the twenty 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: first pick. I think there are some options for the 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: Patriots at the twenty first pick um and there were 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: some guys I think that will not be around for 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: the twenty first pick. So a lot to sort of 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: sift through here. Which guy stands at the top of 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: your list? First overall, and then we'll get to who 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: we think might be available for the Patriots. GOTIEZ who 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: you got? I know, you gotta cute up. I'm a 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: big sauce guy, sauce and tall, good reach, and he 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: presses really strong jabs the receiver a lot, kind of 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: agitates the receiver. Yeah, stands out to me. Yeah, I'm 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: with you, And I mean I think I think there's 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: some question with a lot of these guys of you know, 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: traditional man long cornerbacks. He's that guy. I think he 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: has all all everything you need. He checks those boxes. 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: Some of the questions start to pop up a little 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: bit as you go down the list, I think, but 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: I think for me, he's the cleanest and he's probably 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: going in the top ten. Yeah. I don't see anyway 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: he gets out of the top ten. I agree with 37 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: you guys, long and athletic, you know, just made a 38 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: lot of plays, um, you know, for Cincinnati, and I 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: think he probably is the top guy on the board. 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: I like Stingley. I like Derek Stingley a lot from LSU. 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: The questions that are hard to answer, what happened the 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: last two years? I think it's a you know, Liz 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: Frank injury, which is a significant injury that he dealt with. 44 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: But I think they heal and you know, by all accounts, 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: he's he's healthy and ready to go. That that year 46 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: that he had in the International Championship year in nineteen 47 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: was was incredible. And that's what I'm going off of 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: is just you know that the speed, the toughness, the 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: ball skills, the length, I mean, just the ability to 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: play press man. Those two guys to me stood out 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: among the rest. I don't think either one will be 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: available at twenty one. So if we moved a little 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: bit further down the line, First, let me ask you 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: guys your opinion, because I think I already gave you 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: what my opinion was. Where does cornerback fall on the 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: list of priorities for the Patriots. I think it's it's 57 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: super high. I'm surprised they didn't draft it last year. 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: I felt like J. C. Jackson was probably gonna leave 59 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: and I had it as a you know, significant need 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: last year and they didn't really address it. You ended up, 61 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: you know, going after the draft and you know, after 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: training camp and getting Sean Wade, never really got a 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: look at him in a Patriots, you know, uniform in 64 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: preseason so to speak, kind of behind the scenes. This 65 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: year they signed Terrence Mitchell, Malcolm Butler, and Butler we 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: know was out last year of the game, so those 67 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: are guys kind of their common middle of the road 68 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: at veteran that's kind of a stop gap and you 69 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: hope to improve it. So I think it's a huge need. 70 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a position you could absolutely see at 71 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: twenty one. And I think as we get down, I 72 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: mean Trent mcduffee to me, despite his lack of size, 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: only you know, five ten ninety three, not you know, 74 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,279 Speaker 1: ideal for one of those outside kind of corners, but aggressive, 75 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: smart all over the place. He just screams to me 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: a Patriot, But maybe not exactly what they need. I 77 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: think they need a long outside corner, maybe more like 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: kier Elam from Florida. He's got some issues, but I 79 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: think when you look at him, he looks like a 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: traditional man outside corner. But I really like mc duffy. 81 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: I think he just he screams Patriots to me with 82 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: the way he plays, the aggressiveness, the feisty downhill play. 83 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: I love McDuffie taste. Where do you feel about Patriots 84 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: in cornerback. Do you feel like it's something they have 85 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: to do well they should take a long look at 86 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: in the first round. I think it's definitely a top 87 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: two issue. My thing is if you're taking one in 88 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: the first round, I think they need to be a 89 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: day one starter, and I feel like they're about two 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: or three two or three day one starters in this draft. 91 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I like McDuffie a lot. Somebody else's Andrew Booth, who 92 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: steps stands out to me a lot totally six nine 93 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: six nine um and a big ball hawking guy, which 94 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: is big five picks in his career. So yeah, I 95 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: mean he's another one UM and I think a lot 96 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: of these guys are maybe a little bit more in 97 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: the zone mold Um, but I love Boot. It's similar 98 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: to McDuffie, which just the kind of guys that come 99 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: downhill and run support and play hardy. They go to 100 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: the ball and you know they tackle well, they tackle aggressive, 101 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: and those traits to me always are Patriots, like I 102 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: think they put a high premium on corners that are 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: willing to tackle and get their nose in there. Booth 104 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: he can do both. Probably a little bit of a 105 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: cur for him, but but he I think those you know, 106 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: four guys that we've talked about, I think they're all 107 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: outstanding and they're probably you know, all probably first round picks. 108 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: And then you kind of get into the day two 109 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: guys where there's maybe a little bit more questions. Kyler 110 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: Gordon from Washington another one who's you know, maybe in 111 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: that realm. I like McDuffie better, but you know, as 112 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: we saw, you know, here with Miles Bryant, I mean, 113 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: he's you know, probably a lower end than those guys. 114 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: But but the Washington type, those guys, it seems like 115 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: they're on their radar. Yeah. And I think these guys 116 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: are a little bit bigger than Miles Bryant too, which 117 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: gives them a little bit more physicality. H And I 118 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: also think, you know, you know, Roger McCreary from Auburn 119 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: in Gordon that you just mentioned, you know, the special 120 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: teams element, I mean, I hate it, but I know 121 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: that the Patriots really value it, you know that they're 122 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: looking for that now. In general, I think these defensive backs, 123 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: all of these guys that you're talking about, if you 124 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: want to use them on special teams, they all have 125 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: the skill set to do it. UM, So I don't 126 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: need a guy who was a special teamer in college 127 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: per se. But I do think McCreary, Kyler Gordon and 128 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: those guys they have some of that ability and they 129 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: did they showed it, um at the college level. I'm 130 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: gonna give you a wild card. You know. It's probably 131 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: a Day two guy that UM, I didn't know really 132 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: anything about until I started reading. Is that Tarik Wolin 133 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: from UH Texas San Antonio. And I say this because 134 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: he's only been a cornerback for a couple of years. 135 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: He started his career as a wide receiver. Um. Just 136 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: incredible athletic gifts. Um, that's the stuff you can't teach. UM. 137 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: But you know, you know he's good. Really big guy too, 138 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, six six three six four two oh five. 139 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: But runs. Uh, you know it's not it's not one 140 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: of these big long corners that has the locked hips 141 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: and can't move. He's got some fluidity to his game, 142 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: and uh, he's obviously going to need some some time 143 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: to develop from a tech you know, from a technique standpoint, 144 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: and tease to you a point, you know you're looking 145 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: for a day one, day one starter. This is not 146 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: that guy. This guy's gonna need some time. That's why 147 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: I say maybe a day two pick um, second third round. 148 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: But he's a guy that just flashed through my radar 149 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: just because of the physical gifts. Yeah, I think he's 150 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: one of those guys. Um. But like I know a 151 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: lot of Patriots connection with Zaiah McCollum from from sam 152 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: Houston State, which is similar, good size, has those dimensions 153 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: that you look for in terms of a long press 154 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: man corner. But you know, a small school guy and 155 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: but somebody who tests really well. I mean McCollum ran 156 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: a four three three um, so he can run. It's 157 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: but you know you're projecting a little bit now, and 158 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: I think that's you know, the territory you get in 159 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: here with the later day guys. And one more that 160 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: I would I would throw in are actually two more. 161 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Kobe bryant Um another one that you know stands out 162 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: Cincinnati played with with Sauce as well, and and Cam 163 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: Taylor Britt was another one I liked from from Nebraska. 164 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,559 Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit undersized, but you know, feisty guys 165 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: that have good feet and you know, can they play man, 166 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: can they play zone? I think he's the guy that 167 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: could play some safety too, that too, and that, and 168 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: that's another big piece of it. I think the versatility. 169 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: That's part of the reason I like mcduffiee. He seems 170 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: like that. It's just, uh, it doesn't seem like a 171 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: great class of traditional um, you know man corners. But 172 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that are good football players. 173 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: I think anybody, uh, you know, off the radar for 174 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: you late round. Guy that I liked a lot was 175 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Marcus Marcus Jones from Houston. Size a bit concerning five, 176 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: eight hundred seventy five, but slot corner, great kick returner 177 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: with nine career kick returns, and he also played a 178 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: bit of wide receiver too. Versatility, say, but the special 179 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: teams element, and I think they aren't going to need 180 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: to sort of address that return angle. And this is 181 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: a position that you get a returner from, you know, corners, 182 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: defensive backs, there are a lot of them are returners. 183 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: So Tea's good job for iron one out that had 184 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: some some extensive experience returning punts and kicks and whatnot, 185 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: because you know Gunneralschewsky's gone, they really haven't had. Yeah, 186 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: Montgomery can do a little bit like having like that 187 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: don't stop gap that like could be there, but you 188 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: can probably Hey we got we gotta talk about an 189 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: Alabama guy, right, Josh, Joe, you know, throw one more 190 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: out there. But again it's a you know not not 191 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: maybe some of the corners of Alabama pass, but I 192 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: think you always have to keep those guys. There's no 193 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: Cyrus Jones. Yeah, I mean, I do think that corners 194 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: intriguing because it's it's kind of, uh a catch twenty two. 195 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a high need Yep. I 196 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: don't think it's a great class. I think, like T said, 197 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: there's a couple of Day one starters that I don't 198 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: think we'll be available at twenty one, So I don't 199 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: think you want to force it. Yeah, I think it's 200 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: probably unlikely that the Patriots are going to take one 201 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: of these guys at twenty one. I think there are 202 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: a couple of options. But I kind of agree with 203 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: the way Matisse said it. You need a guy to 204 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: step in and start right away if you're gonna take 205 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: him that high. And I don't I don't know if 206 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: if Booth or McDuffie, like, I don't know if those 207 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: guys are day one starters, and I would say that 208 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: to me is that this position is the trade down spot. 209 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: So if you trade out of twenty one, you pick 210 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: up an extra day two pick, you get maybe late twenties, 211 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: early thirties. That's where one of these you get the 212 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: same guy you we're gonna take a twenty one if 213 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: you've got forced to tell you value, all right, love 214 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: it chess checkers. Anyway, we are almost finished. We're gonna 215 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: do some safety work on our next podcast, and then 216 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap it up. And guys, it's right around 217 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: the corner here. You know that the draft is coming quickly, 218 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: less than a week now, and we'll be talking for 219 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: real about who the Patriots pick, and no more saying 220 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: they'll never take that guy because they took them. You know, 221 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming. So we'll put a wrap 222 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: on quarterbacks now. We'll be back with safeties soon. Thank 223 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, google Play, 224 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen. 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