1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Jimmy Rowlin. Welcome to the Pimmy Game. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todds, a lucky It's the 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: Phillies Show. It is Monday, December twenty ninth, twenty twenty five. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: This is Part two of our interview with Jimmy Rownds. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: If you missed part one, it dropped on Friday, go 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: back check it out. A lot of great stuff on 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, Jimmy's development as a fielder, his 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: development as a hitter, Jimmy always just fantastic and bringing 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: insight into the game. Part two is a little different Today. 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: Part two Jimmy talks about the twenty twenty six Phillies 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: and why he told them at his Hall of Fame 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: induction ceremony this summer. Hey, if you're tired of seeing 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight highlights on the fan vision, you know, 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: go out and win a world series for yourself. Jim 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: and I share some stories about what it was like 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: to cover Jimmy. A lot of laughs in this episode, 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: and we finished by talking about what Jimmy's up to 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: all off the field, including the six to one one 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: podcast with Ryan Howard and Jimmy offers a couple really 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: good surprises about some of the things he's doing now 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: that he is no longer playing baseball, and it's not 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: just talking about baseball like he does in the six 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: to one one podcast and TBS. If you're watching this 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: on YouTube, don't forget please subscribe to the show. We 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: appreciate the support. You can also go to the Phillieshowshop 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: dot com and pick up some gear for the show. 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: All right, everybody, check this out Part two of our 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: interview with Jimmy Rollins. 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: Hey, Tom, I'm curious, Jimmy, you talk about I'm kind 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 3: of curious what the feeling was, you know, when you 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: when you drop that line in two thousand and seven 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: plant training. 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: What was it like for you. 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: Mentally coming into spring training in four oh, five, oh six, 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: And what was it like coming in in nine eighth. 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Nine right years. Tell me about that you had when 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: you walked into the clubhouse. It was it was hope 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: the prior years to believe the latter years. And I've 39 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: said this, you know the people privately, privately, there's a 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: difference between hope and belief. Hope is saying, you know, 41 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. I hope something happens. 42 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure. And it's like your 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: praying where a belief is, this starts off the same. 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen, but I know 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: what happened for us. It's whether it's me or the 46 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: next guy, I don't even care because I know what's 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: going to happen. And I think that was our mentality 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: and we all say passed the time, like if they 49 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: don't want to pitch you and they're going to walk you, 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: let the next guy do it. You don't have to 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: be the hero. Hope is I'm going to be the 52 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: hero because if I'm not, no one else is going 53 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: to do it. Belief is saying, so, I don't care 54 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: who it is. It might be Chooche, it might be 55 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: a picture getting walk, setting up a situation. We don't 56 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: know what it is, but it's going to work out. 57 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: And when you have that feeling coming in spring training 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: and Ruby you heard it. We talked about winning championship 59 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: innings front runners. They go play innings one through six, 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: champions play inning seven, eight nine, and so we never 61 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: cared about the score and Charlie, you know, to come out. Okay, 62 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: God goddamn was getting la. Let's go get some damn 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: runs in that board. Son. You know, we're like, Charlie, 64 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: don't like, don't trip like the starting pitchers on today, 65 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: but he's not going nine. When they bring in that bullpen, 66 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna eat him up. And so we had that 67 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: belief it didn't matter who we're playing with. The situation 68 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: was like that we were going to win that ball game. 69 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: And guess what, those guys across the field knew that also, 70 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: And so that was the difference between coming in hopeful 71 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: that something's gonna happen. We need a break, something, we 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: need this miracle, to saying we are the miracle. The 73 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: miracle is us. Whoever has the opportunity at that moment 74 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: to get it done, it's their job duty to get 75 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: it done. And get it done doesn't always mean getting 76 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: a hit. Getting it done maybe saying they're not pictured 77 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: to me looking at the guy and you know on 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: deck like hey, you know what this is and having 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: that guy step up. So when you come in knowing 80 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: that you can trust the guys in the Fox Show 81 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: with you, that there's no question about who they are 82 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: on the field, their make up, their heart, that they 83 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: have that dog in them. I mean, you just believe 84 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: in one another to a point where it doesn't matter. 85 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who we bring in, what the situation is, 86 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: We're getting it done, fellas. And that was the difference. 87 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: We came in hopeful, you know, when is this miracle 88 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna happen? Maybe the miracle did happen when the Mets 89 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: beat the Braves. That was the miracle we looked for. 90 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: And now from then on we believed. 91 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: As you're talking about these you know, champions winning inning 92 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 5: seven eighty nine, In my mind's eye, I'm seeing Broxton, 93 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 5: I'm seeing get me to the plate boys, right, you. 94 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: Know, right, That's what it was, and I don't We've 95 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: had meetings, especially in those seven was we're the toughest 96 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: meetings we had and we'd exclude pictures because we didn't 97 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: have the greatest staff. Let's let's let's be honest about it. 98 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Outside of coal, it was like, bro we got to 99 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: put up nine runs. That was our mentality, like we 100 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: we we have to put up seven. There were so 101 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: many games. By the fifth inning, it felt like it 102 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: was five nothing. It was like Jesus Christ, we've only 103 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: had one crack at it, and these gods going on 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: in their thirty bat and and that that felt like pressure. 105 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: It felt like pressure, but we have met like, Look, 106 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the score is, and that's where 107 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: that championship inning kind of model came about. It doesn't 108 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: matter what the score looks like. When it comes down 109 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: to get these last nine outs, we have to be 110 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: at our best because that's when they're bringing in at 111 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: the time, that middle reliever to try to get them 112 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: to the closer. The starter, he's doing great if we 113 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: get him out after five or six innings were good 114 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: that seventh and eighth inning, trying to bridge to the closer. 115 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: That's where we eat. If we haven't already been, you know, 116 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: if we haven't already knocked the starter around. And that's 117 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: where it started because we felt and we knew when 118 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: we lived it. We were coming in in fourth enity, 119 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: we were in some big deficits, saying, you're trying to 120 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: go out there and get four run five runs back. 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: It's tough. Just get one, just get two. If we 122 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: hold them here, just get one more and see where 123 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: we are. We look up and we're down a run 124 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: or two, and we score four or five runs of 125 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: our own over those next endings, and it felt like 126 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: the game was just taken out of their hands and 127 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: they had no chance. And we liked that. We liked 128 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: that feeling of breaking that other team spirit, like, yeah, 129 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: you thought you had us. You know you're out early 130 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: running the eight hundred meters, but you didn't save enough, 131 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, enough juice for the last two hundred and 132 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: that's what we're coming on strong. And when you look 133 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: at the final score, it felt a lot different than 134 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: the game actually played out, and we liked that. We 135 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: liked them coming in the next day like, well, look 136 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: at this lineup. Where's a hole in it today? There was. 137 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: We just loved it. And he hearing former player, especially 138 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: catchers Brian mc cann tell stories about our lineup is 139 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: like you, we have to be careful you first pitch, 140 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: and then we got Shane. If you get on you 141 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: getting over, then we got the big boppers. So to hear, 142 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: we didn't know that. We know we apply pressure, but 143 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: we didn't know that's how they saw us. And maybe 144 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: it's good that we didn't know that because it kept 145 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: us hongry and kept us pushing forward to try to 146 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: be the best. 147 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: This whole conversation reminds me of Jim and I are 148 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: like people ask us all the time like who'd you 149 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: like covering and who do you like writing about? And 150 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: we always mentioned you because you know, postgame, pregame you're 151 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: always so engaging and insightful. 152 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 6: So funny. 153 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: I remember one time I just told Jim this story 154 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: just the other day. Early in my career, I was told, like, 155 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: all right, when you go in the clubhouse, since your 156 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: new covering baseball, don't go in and act like you're 157 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: ab and double day and like, remember you know you 158 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: invented the game. So I would it was post game 159 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: Charlie specifically, you know, you guys, you guys will lose 160 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: or you guys have been a losing streak, and Charlie go, god, 161 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: you know these guys are just being being too aggressive, 162 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 2: you know too and then you know a week later, 163 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: a week later, these guys aren't swinging. 164 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 6: It's being too passive up there or whatever. 165 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: The post game, I would go up to you and 166 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: I would say, hey, Jimmy, no, Charlie says, you know, 167 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: you guys are kind of like, you know, being a 168 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: little bit too aggressive. Maybe you need to be a 169 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: little bit more patient. And then it went on, Hey Jimmy, 170 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: Charlie said, Hey Jimmy, Charlie said, And I'm about the 171 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: maybe the twenty fourth or the fiftieth or the sixtieth 172 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: time where you're in the middle of the clubhouse by 173 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: that where the table is or whatever. Then I'm going, hey, Jimmy, 174 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: Charlie said, And you went. Charlie said. Always Charlie said, 175 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: with you, Todd, isn't it? 176 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 6: It was very fun. I ended up. Shit, I do 177 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 6: say that a lot. Yeah you go, you go, Yeah. 178 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: You do. That's definitely something that I would do, and 179 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: it was my thing because there was always respect. I 180 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: understand you guys job. You guys understand you know my job. 181 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: And I heard a lot of, you know, great interviews. 182 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: I've heard people talk about interviews, and my favorite was, 183 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: I want to say, I think it was Reggie Jackson 184 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: that said that as long as that game is going on, 185 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: you actually are writing. Their story depends in your hand. 186 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: And always felt that way. So during the game I 187 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: would feel that way their time I'm out there in 188 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: the game, you know, and the game's coming to ninth 189 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: then and I already have the interview going in my 190 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: head like, oh, you had a big head. You know 191 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: what you're going to say, and sometimes you go, damn, 192 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: they just go three runs. So they go that interview. 193 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: You know that. I mean, they are playing sins that happened. 194 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: But someone that would come in and you know me, like, 195 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: ask me a sophisticate a sophisticated question so we can 196 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it. You don't have to 197 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: dance around things. Let's just jump right into it. Don't 198 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: need the sugar coat. We're in Philadelphia, they don't need 199 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: the sugarcoat any thing. So sometimes you know that it 200 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: would it would become comical because I understand your job, 201 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: and sometimes I would feel that the tough question, because 202 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: there was so much respect between us, the tough question. 203 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: You're always trying to phrase it the right way, not 204 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: always by the time, trying to phrase it the right 205 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: way because I know what you're trying to get at. 206 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I would have to make light over 207 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: it at times. There's no doubt about it, because look, 208 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: we see each other every freaking day. Every day. It's like, 209 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: you know me, I know you just asked bro, Like 210 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: we're good you. 211 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: Like once when we were in Atlanta and Charlie had 212 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 5: benched you this day before, and you knew you were 213 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 5: gonna take some questions the next day, and everybody walks 214 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 5: in the club here, guys. 215 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: Come on, let's go ahead, bro, like we make it 216 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: out of me, just just just like in New York. 217 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: You know when I when I was I missed, I 218 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: didn't miss the bus. I was driving, and I came 219 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: after the bus and it's just like, yeah, all right. 220 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean Charlie called me to his office and was like, well, damn, so, 221 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, what you want me to do? I mean, 222 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: if you get away with everybody else gonna think they 223 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: can get away with it. And I'm like, Charlie, your 224 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: mind's already made up. He's like, but what you want 225 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: me to do? So I'm like, Charlie, do what you 226 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: gotta do. Man, Like it's just just go ahead. It's cool, 227 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: like their rules. I was after the bus, there's really 228 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: nothing to make a big deal about it. And then 229 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: after the game, you know, it's just you know, I 230 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: knew the cameras were going to be on me. It's like, 231 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm not about to parade and be upset like I 232 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: fucked up, Like the bus got here three forty five. 233 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: I got there at four fifteen. Right, there's nothing to 234 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: argue about. There's nothing to argue about. There's no reason 235 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: for me. I'm not upset that Charlie for enforcing the 236 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: rule that he only had to be on time and 237 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: have fun. That's those were his two rules. I wasn't 238 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: on time, So what am I going to do? Be 239 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: mad at him? And it just so happened that. I 240 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: think at the time Oliver Perez was pitching, I was 241 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: terrible against him, and Runtland ended up having a freaking 242 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: amazing game. We won. See that was the best part. Like, 243 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: don't there's no need to talk about me, went out there, 244 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: had three hiss, played some great defense. We won. I 245 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: could tell you right now. I was not getting hits 246 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: off Oliver Press at that point. I knew that coming 247 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: to the ballpark. Maybe I did that on purpose. Maybe 248 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: that's averotige myself. 249 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: There was there was another time where you were almost 250 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: There was another time you were almost late, but you 251 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: weren't late. You got there on time. Do you remember 252 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: that time that you gave Jimy a ride to work? 253 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: That to work and Saint Louis. 254 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? I don't. 255 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 6: I don't, Jimmy, Jimmy, you gotta tell the story. No, 256 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 6: we we don't remember that one. 257 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: We'll talk to me. 258 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 6: I'm going to tell I'll tell the story and see 259 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 6: the jar race stuff. 260 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: From my memory, it was nice. No, I was a 261 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: good guy. 262 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 5: I used to love when you used to put the 263 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 5: uh the he Jimmy had this terry white terry cloth 264 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 5: robe across from Red Types Rollin's eleven on the back 265 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 5: and you'd walk around the club pops and that thing 266 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 5: looking like you needed your slippers and a pipe. 267 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: I still have it. I still have this hanging up 268 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: right now. 269 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 6: But wait a second. 270 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: So, so I think it was coming off and off day. 271 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: You guys were the Phillies were playing in Saint Louis, 272 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: coming off the off day, I. 273 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Remember, yep, yep, yep. 274 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 6: Okay. 275 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't remember it, but I do remember the story now, 276 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: yep okay. 277 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 278 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: So the flight gets delayed, massively delayed or canceled, and 279 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: it was like, oh crap, you're not going to get 280 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: there on time. And so you said to jim let 281 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: me make a call. I mean, you could probably tell 282 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: the story. Do you want to tell the rest of 283 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: the story. 284 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to hear it. 285 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: You basically said, from what I understand, you guys are 286 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: both at pH L. It's clear that this play is 287 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: not leaving and you're not going to get there on time. 288 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 6: You said, you let me make a call. 289 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: You had you had a jet fueled up, yep, and 290 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: you said to Jim, he said, you want to that's around. 291 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 6: So you guys went. You guys went to wherever that 292 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 6: plane flew out of. 293 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: Jim got a flight with you to Saint Louis and then, 294 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 2: in typical Jim Salisbury fashion, at one point he goes, Jimmy, 295 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: if you're late and you get benched, I'm gonna have 296 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: to write about this, Am I right? 297 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: Jim? Yeah, no, correct, And that is that is a 298 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: true story. Yep. I had a friend in a business, 299 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: Apollo Jets, and yeah, it just wasn't going to happen. 300 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: It was it weather, Jim, No. 301 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 6: It was Uh. 302 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 5: You guys had a weekend series up at the Mets, 303 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 5: and then Monday was an off day, so we both 304 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: went home for the off day and I was that 305 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 5: I showed up at the airport, I show up at 306 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 5: the airport on Tuesday at noon. I'm pushing it already, 307 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 5: noon flight over to Saint Louis, and uh, all of 308 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 5: a sudden, Jimmy walks up. 309 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 6: He's gonna got He's gonna get on the same flight. 310 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 5: And then the lady was The lady says, this flight 311 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 5: has been canceled. 312 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: And Jimmy's that's exactly what it was. 313 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 6: Jimmy's face just dropped. 314 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 5: And uh, but you know, a good athlete reacts, and 315 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 5: Jimmy reacted, and he booked a private jet and he 316 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 5: let me. 317 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: It was forty five minutes. I forget the guy's nay, 318 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: must will have his number. It's like, I have a 319 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: plane land in forty five minutes. When it touches down, 320 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: we'll refueled and get you there. And I was like, man, 321 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: it's so nice to have people in high places. Jim 322 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: Is it was nice to have a friend that was 323 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: making a lot of money at the time. That's that was. 324 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: That was a really nice thing. Thank Ruben, Thank you, 325 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: by the way, thank you, thank you. 326 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 6: There's a lion. 327 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: There's a line that jim told me that you said, Jimmy, 328 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: which stuck with me. Kind of this kind of describes 329 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: what kind of person you are, and Jim was, of course, 330 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: you know, I don't feel comfortable doing this. 331 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 6: This is I can't. I can't take a flight with you, 332 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 6: and you looked at him as. 333 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: A Jim, we're two human beings. I'm just let's just 334 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: we're just people trying to get somewhere. Don't make a 335 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: big deal out of it. I want to do this. 336 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: Come along with me, Let's fly to Saint Louis together. 337 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: And and that to me that said a lot like let's. 338 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 5: Just he helped out, helped me out. It was we 339 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 5: and we both fell asleep somewhere over Ohio. 340 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: We had we had no other choice, and we weren't 341 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: getting there and had already been in enough trouble. I'm like, 342 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: imagine not showing up for the game, Like, no, that's 343 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: not going to happen. Bro, don'tkay what this flight costs. 344 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: We're getting this plane. 345 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 5: I never forget. We pulled up to the loading dock 346 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 5: at Bush Stadium and we go in through the security 347 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 5: at the loading dock and Todd and you know, we're 348 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 5: like one, take a right to the clubhouse and left 349 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: to the press box. Got there during VP, the Phillies 350 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 5: were taking he was there in plenty of time. But 351 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 5: I in the press box in Saint Louis is way 352 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 5: up high, as Todd knows, So by the time time 353 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 5: I got to the press box five six stories up, 354 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 5: he was already on the field playing transit. 355 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: Nobody could dress. 356 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: Nobody in the history of baseball any sort could dress quicker. 357 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: I honestly don't know how I did it. I don't know. 358 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: It just happened. It was just like I walk in 359 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: and I was a guy. I couldn't get in so 360 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: early and just lounge around the clubhouse and do nothing 361 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: like I wanted to get to the clubhouse, into the field, 362 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: and it was go time. It was time to go 363 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: to work. There was a job that needed to be done, 364 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, get my work and take my ground balls, hit, 365 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: hang out with the fellas and then play the game. 366 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: You know. And we're doing this every single day. So 367 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: getting there early and putting on a uniform at one 368 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: o'clock for a seventh flag game, that just didn't work. 369 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: But when I put my uniform on, it's time to go. 370 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: Get on the jokes, you know, talk about my teammates, 371 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: make everybody comfortable. It was just a show that we 372 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: all kind of put on because we were entertainers and 373 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: go play. But yeah, I'd walk in stretches at four 374 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: o'clock and it'd be three fifty five, three fifty six, 375 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: and I would stop in the kitchen grab something to 376 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: eat or drink, and then I looked at the clock 377 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I need to go because it's 378 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: getting kind of close. Like I really like it, but it's 379 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: getting kind of close. I got about ten more seconds 380 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: before I get that point where I'm rushing, which meant 381 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: I had like a minute a half to get out. 382 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know how I thought 383 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: this way, but I did. And most of the times 384 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: during that time, I had on a sweatsuit, so it 385 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: was easy just to slip down, socks on, socks up, 386 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: And as long as I made it out with three 387 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: seconds on the clock, I wasn't late. And so many 388 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: guys lost money bett and it was like, there's no 389 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: way I was walking out. It was two minutes left. 390 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: There's no way he's going to make it. He isn't 391 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: even not his locker yet. And I emerged with three 392 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: to five seconds still left to go, And I honestly 393 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: don't know how I did it. I can't do it today. 394 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: I definitely cannot do that today. It's a whole routine now, 395 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm matured. 396 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: Quick question about this team and you're watching it from 397 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: five hundred feet or a thousand feet or whatever about 398 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 4: talking little smack playing the show. 399 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 6: Talk a little bit about the clubhouse. So what you 400 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 6: know of the clubhouse. 401 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 4: And how a lot of people talking about you know, 402 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: this just needs more vibes, It needs more you know, 403 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 4: a little bit more. 404 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 6: Diversity, whatever the case may be. What's your feeling on that. 405 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 4: I'm kind of curious how you felt about that part 406 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: of being. 407 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 6: In a clubhouse and how important that is. 408 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: Then the clubhouse is very important. What I do know 409 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: or what I've been told and what I feel is 410 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: from the outside. Schwarber he's the leader, hands down, like 411 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: the vocal leader. He's the guy that you know when 412 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: when Superman has to pull out his cape and say 413 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: come on boys, that was him. But then you also 414 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: had the leadership board with JT and Bryce. There's never 415 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: just one. There's always, you know, the main guy who's 416 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: probably gonna be the vocal or the point of contact 417 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: for the media. Everybody's not the field tough questions, but 418 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: maybe he feels the toughest questions when people aren't always 419 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: willing to answer. Then you have the guys that kind 420 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: of okay, Schwerber has, you know, the main focal point, 421 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: but everybody else is still doing their part to keep 422 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: everybody together, and that is huge. You got to have 423 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: that one point person that when things going wrong, we 424 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: can look to this guy to either say something, go 425 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: around individually the guys and you know, pump them up 426 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: or get them go and let them throw their arm 427 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: around them. Hey, hey, look, you're going to be big. 428 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: It's not we're going to need you. Does the manager 429 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: to do that? Of course that's the manager's job, but 430 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: he has to do it with so many people. It 431 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: comes and is received much better from the guy from 432 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: that person. That's his job to keep us Blue together. 433 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: I do think they're definitely it needs to be some diversity. 434 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: I think that was something that we loved about our team. 435 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: And you guys hung around us enough to know that 436 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 1: if you walk into our clubhouse and you didn't know 437 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: what was going on, you probably have your head sideways 438 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: sideways a lot. Look like did he just say that? Like? 439 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: Was he serious about what he just said, and we 440 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: would laugh at each other. I mean, like the stereotypes. 441 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: We we'd make fun of it, but it brought us 442 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: together because we knew outside that may be what is perceived, 443 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: but inside we're all one. We're all the same, We 444 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: speak different languages, we celebrate our different cultures, and that's 445 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: what makes it it. You know, if Choos wanted some 446 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: music on, go ahead and turn that music on. We 447 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: all me and her dancing, and then we have the 448 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: hip hop, then we have the country, and then Brett 449 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: to come on and play some rock stuff and it's like, oh, 450 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: here we go. But that was Brett, you know, it 451 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: was all it just all it was just a pot. 452 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: It was gumbo, And I think that's what made it 453 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: so lively that we were all to bring who we 454 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: were to that situation to the clubhouse and perfer form 455 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: as such, and there was never any separating or divisions 456 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: within that clubhouse. Now, I don't know what that clubhouse 457 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: is because I haven't been in there, but I definitely 458 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: would like to see some diversity in there. I think 459 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: that makes it fun to have different aspects come in 460 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: into a clubhouse. As far as the team on the field, 461 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: it shows that, in my opinion, this game is turning 462 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: back to having a very athletic team where speed is huge. 463 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: Everything that we used to do before we started winning, 464 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: running bases, taking extra basis, putting pressure on the other defense, 465 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: playing fundamentally sound baseball on both sides. That's how you 466 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: win baseball games. We're not just relying on home runs. 467 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: We have a lot of guys that can hit on runs. 468 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: We also have a lot of guys that can play 469 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: fundamental baseball. I'm just not sure if the emphasis on 470 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: playing fundamental baseball putting in a work that it takes 471 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: every single day. So I mean we would go at 472 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: times the first game on the road of every of 473 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: every new roads. Now we would go take in field, outfield, 474 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: cut off in relays, find out where the gaps are. 475 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: You know, this gap is bigger than the last gap 476 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: getting in position because the field has an awkward little 477 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: situation in outfield. Learning all those things before that series started, 478 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: so when the game happened, we already kind of had 479 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: an awareness of where we needed to be. I'm not 480 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: sure if those things are done and it's running a 481 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: basis during batting practice, guys aren't doing that. They're wearing 482 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: short pants, taking their taking their swings, going to the 483 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: cage and look at machines all day. And that's baseball wide. 484 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: So it isn't just for that's baseball white. But getting 485 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: back to doing those things that when the playoffs come 486 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: in the championship ball, those things actually matter a man. 487 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 5: You this has been great stuff in your in your 488 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 5: Wall of Fame speech, which was great in August. 489 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 6: All off the top of your head. 490 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: It was amazing. 491 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 5: You hit all the all the bases off the top 492 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 5: of your head. But one of your messages was to 493 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 5: the ball club, do you yeah, the twenty twenty five 494 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 5: Phillies and they were all on the top step and 495 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 5: you were like, if you're if you're tired of hearing 496 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 5: about us, you. 497 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: Know, go in, go and do it, go win. And 498 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: it was and it was the truth. And it's not 499 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: anything new I've told them, you know, personally, Like I 500 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: was tired of hearing about nineteen eighty. I was born 501 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: in seventy eight, bro, and you guys are still talking 502 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: about nineteen eighty. I get it. But being in Oakland, 503 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, being around the championship years, like my informative 504 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: years growing up, it's like we felt like we were 505 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: in a playoffs of winning championships seemingly every other year, 506 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: and you guys are still stuck on nineteen eighty, like 507 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: come on, and then you know being drafted by the Phillies. 508 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: So now I'm part of that. Now become The last 509 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: time he won was nineteen eighty and like, like I said, 510 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: I told my mom, like, we may not be winning now, 511 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: but when I get up there, we'll win. And I 512 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: wish I told her we'll win more than once, because 513 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: maybe that would have happened. I told, for sure, we'll 514 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: win one, So maybe I short changed us. But you know, 515 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: talking to Bowl and I would tell I'm like, look, 516 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: there's no disrespect, but I'm tired of hearing about nineteen eighty. 517 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: And he was like, we'll do something about it, bitch. 518 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, perfect, You're right. The only 519 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: way for us to not hearing and watching those same 520 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: videos from when I was born is to go out 521 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: there and win ourselves. So now that's been what seventeen 522 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: years since, you know, seventeen years of watching those same 523 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: videos over and over and over. And not only I 524 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: mean the fans, they love us, they will always love 525 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: us the same way the generation loved the nineteen eighty team. 526 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: You're not stepping on our shine. But the fans are 527 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: tired of watch those same old videos. Also it's nostalgic, yes, 528 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: and it's amazing. It was a great time, but they 529 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: want to see some new stuff. They want to see 530 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: a new parade. These are the kids that want to 531 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: skip school. And I have a reasons skip school and 532 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: come celebrate and hopefully not get rerunt over by horses 533 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: and don't you know, climb up slippery poles. But give 534 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: them that reason. And as the guys in that clubhouse, 535 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: at what point do you say, I don't want to 536 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: hear this shit anymore? Like I love you no disrespect, 537 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: But that has no bearing on this clubhouse today, on 538 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: this team today, in this organization today, we're the ones 539 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: that they're paying to come see. We're the ones that 540 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: are playing the ball. We're the ones that are sweating, traveling, 541 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: missing our families. When is our turn going to happen? 542 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 1: And that's always been my message, and I think the 543 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: undertone and really the most important part is that when 544 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: you win, you tap into that legacy. You're creating another bridge, 545 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: hopefully a legacy of champions not just an individual season 546 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: that it's something that maybe that you become the spark 547 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: to the next winning five or six seven championships in 548 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years. That's what I want. And we're all 549 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: tied into that together. So it isn't a selfish thing. 550 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: It is an individual It's like, look, I want you 551 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: guys to win too, because when you guys win, they're 552 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: talking about eighty, they talk about eight. Then they hope 553 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: talk about the twenty twenty six Phillies and then there's 554 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: a comparison who was better? Who I want those conversations 555 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: the only organization that really gets to do that, or 556 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: the Yankees, you know, I want us to be in 557 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: those conversations come out. 558 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's cool to see you guys all 559 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: get together, you know. And then London a couple of 560 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 2: years ago and in the summer seem like you and 561 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: Chase and Cole and all you guys together, Ryan, big piece, 562 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: big piece playing golf. Gotta give a shot. 563 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 6: I give a shot. 564 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I forgot. I gotta give a shot to 565 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: the six one one right. Appreciate I mean for the 566 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: and I mean it for the people that have not 567 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: checked it out. You really do have to check it 568 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: out because it's it's a great blend of like good 569 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: baseball talk you had. I was pumped because earlier this 570 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: month you dropped a Freddy Freeman episode and said, yeah, 571 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh Arder with Freddie Freeman right, count 572 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: me in, man. 573 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 6: It was It's it's great stuff. 574 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: It's personal stuff, but it's a lot of good baseball 575 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: stuff talk and about hitting and all the stuff that 576 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: we like to talk about, and then then some fun 577 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: behind the scenes stuff, no. 578 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: Doubt about it. 579 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 6: Yeah you do. 580 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: You do? 581 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: You enjoy doing it? 582 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: I do, And for years, I'm talking about years years, 583 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: people are like you and Ryan need to do something, 584 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: and I guess we kind of looked at each other 585 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: like I don't think we're that funny. We laugh at 586 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: each other. You know, it's a lot of inside jokes. 587 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: But everybody enjoyed watching our relationship and just us go 588 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: at each other. You know, there there was never a 589 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: point where anyone was off limits. We didn't care about contracts, 590 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: we didn't care about time. Like, bro, you give us 591 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: some you give us some m you're gonna catch it. 592 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna catch the team. And so I think people 593 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: kind of solve that. And then with the world just 594 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: changing and you know, being able to be a current 595 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: player and have a podcast, that wasn't allowed, and so 596 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't even the thought. But now that we're retired 597 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: and we were part of the cat program, we were 598 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: approached like, hey, after after actually doing the Player's House 599 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: in Arizona by each and Brian Ba Brian Omonti was like, hey, 600 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: you guys want to do a podcast? You have any 601 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: interest in it? It's like we kind of other, like sure, 602 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: like why not? I mean we've been told for fifteen 603 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: years we should do something. Sure, so sure, why not? 604 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: And that's how it was birth. It was just like, well, 605 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: what do we want to do, Like I don't want 606 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: to be a baseball podcast. I don't want to talk 607 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: about just baseball, like that's you could turn on any 608 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: station in any part of the country that's happening. But 609 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: if we could do something that, yes, it's obviously going 610 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: to be baseball involved, We're going to talk to players, 611 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: but let's get people that are on the fringe or 612 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: influential and bringing baseball to the public. Also, what do 613 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: all athletes want to do? We want to be businessmen, 614 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: we want to be rock star. Let's bring some of 615 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: those people in that we wish we could touch, and 616 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: and and and have access to, and we were able 617 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: to lean on MLB. It's it's great to have them 618 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: as as your big brother because they can make a 619 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: phone call and put pressure on people to come on 620 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: your show. But you know, MLB being behind us and 621 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: actually helping get a lot of guests, and then you're 622 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: just building up. You know, you guys know about it, 623 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: just building up, and as people see it, they see 624 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: the content and you know, we're not we're not trying 625 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: to press, you know. We we let you know what 626 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: the conversations want is going to be about. And if 627 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: there's anything you don't want to talk about, you know, 628 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: we we take that off and then when we sit 629 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: with you it may though it's scripted or along the lines. 630 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: Ninety percent of time it does not. You know, we'll 631 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: look at the first two things and then stories and 632 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: memories pop up and it takes a life on its own. 633 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: But I do love that about it is that it's everyone. 634 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: You know. We we have a line of questions that 635 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: we send to whomever we're going to interview, just to 636 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: make sure that they're comfortable. Then as you sit there 637 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: and you're you're talking and they're they're sharing stories, you 638 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: see their brains and our brains are doing the same thing. 639 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes a producer he'll look at us, 640 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, we're not listening to you like we're 641 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: this is going, you know, because it should be a conversation. 642 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: The whole thing should be a conversation and an insight 643 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: behind the first layer that we get to see. So 644 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: and you know that about me if you sit there 645 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm I'm not trying to be yes, I'm 646 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: not trying to you know, paying a story for you. 647 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: I just I can only be just who I am 648 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: tried to be. Yeah, exactly, you should wear. 649 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 5: Your robe one episode. 650 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 6: A lot of a lot of a lot of great stores. Yeah, 651 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 6: I mean you've had You're right, You've. 652 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: Had like business moguls on there, You've had Nascar, You've 653 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: had you know obviously one F one, one f one, 654 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry one uh, you know you had Paidro on there. 655 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: That was a two part episode as well. 656 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: It was funny. I told him, I asked, and I 657 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: wish your man I asked him, right, And you know, 658 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: I pedro like man, I get to work with him 659 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: every Tuesday, and it's like I got to know him 660 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: in uniform and club. I was completely different than you 661 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: would ever you know, suspect him to be when you're 662 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: across the other side. Pedro, Man, Patro is a bunch 663 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: of fun and can young Pedro boy boy, Young Pedro 664 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: was a handful, I can tell you that much right now. 665 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: He's much more sophisticated now, but you can still see 666 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: that wild side. Can you imagine Pedro ninety three to 667 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: ninety four, Pedro up in Montreal and just being a man. Yeah, 668 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of stories about that. But you 669 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: get to learn, You get to know and learn about 670 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: people before the camera cuts on and it's like, man, 671 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: like this, this was cool. So we've got to meet 672 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: people and get behind the scenes and peel back, you know, 673 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: some layers to them. And I think we do a 674 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: good job. I want to get even better at what 675 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: I do and asking questions, framing questions and finding different, 676 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 1: different stories and deeper stories because we all have a 677 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: lot to give and a lot to share and only 678 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: so little time to do so, so we have those 679 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: moments to be able to sit with someone and find 680 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: out about them. That's what I want to do. I 681 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: want to get behind it all. 682 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: The Pedro story, I mean, people got to go listen 683 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: to the entire episode, but paid when he's talking about 684 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: Don Julio. All I can say is go listen to 685 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: the Payer episode if you want to know who don 686 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: the check that out and then what This is just 687 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: a random question that popped in my heads. 688 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 6: You're talking about like. 689 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: Business and and and and being the entrepreneur and stuff. 690 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: Back in the day, you were involved in the publishing 691 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: rights of music. 692 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 6: Do you still do that? 693 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: I know? 694 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 6: So the two songs I remember I wrote a story 695 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 6: about this. 696 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: You had some publishing rights to Justin Bieber's any meaning 697 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: sexual eruption by Snoop Dogg. 698 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 6: Get checks in the mail for those. 699 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: I still have those. Yep, they still pay, they still pay. 700 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: I have Mary Jay, I have a piece of want 701 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: to write a Cheff Timberlake suit and tie. So it 702 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: was it was good. That was learning experience. You know, 703 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: if you're going to be music and music, you know, 704 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: you definitely want to be in a publishing side. If 705 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: you have time to be in at twenty four to seven, 706 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: then you know you can make a living but me 707 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: on a friend was kind of doing it for family members, 708 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: learning a lot about the industry. Chris Cabot, who is 709 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: my entertainment attorney, is still a good friend and I 710 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 1: still reach out to Who's now. He's a big football agent. 711 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: He represent Patrick Mahomes amongst other guys. He was like, 712 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: if you really want to make money, get into the publishing. 713 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: I was like, nah, that's that's but that's not the shine. 714 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: He was like, if you want to make money, get 715 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: into the publishing. And it's the way he said. I'm like, 716 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to listen. That's one thing 717 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: about me about me, I'll listen to you. I may 718 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: stand up, i'll stand my ground, but I'm very coachable. 719 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: As they say, I'll you know what. You know what 720 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: you're talking about, Let me listen. And once I got 721 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: into the publishing sign I stopped spending money and started 722 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: receiving checks. So away was a better, much better thing, 723 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: much much much better thing. It's it's much more cost 724 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: effishent but yeah, so I still do that. I'm still 725 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: in an entrepreneurial business. Obviously, being from California. The cannabis 726 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: business is booming industry and there was one thing that 727 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: the current administration has done, and that was taken cannabis 728 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: from Schedule three to Schedule one. So as far as 729 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: people in the industry, actually Jason Worth is in industry 730 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: also just being able to take the two eighty e 731 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: taxes away, so now the industry can become much more 732 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: profitable because we were getting taxed at a rate that 733 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: was just completely unfair. So hopefully, I mean, and we're 734 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: doing great. We're doing great, but just now that we 735 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: can pay less taxes, have more write offs or cap 736 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: rates for occupancy of buildings, you know, comes down from 737 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: ten percent to six percent like normal people. So we're 738 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: not just a cannabis manufacturing building. We can actually compete 739 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: as far as when it's coming to selling. But I'm 740 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: also am involved with a women's intimates brand that is 741 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: getting ready to launch in March. So I still have 742 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: my Oh ty, you like that? 743 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 6: Huh. Jimmy always never seemed to amaze man. I'm like, 744 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 6: what's next? 745 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: Trust me. We just we just did a soft lunch 746 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: in la maybe about two weeks ago and went very well. 747 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: Great reviews we've done were tests. Uh, the ladies love 748 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: the fit that that that we've changed, So we're looking 749 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: forward to that and uh, we don't plan on that 750 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: being a small business for long. We have a great team, 751 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: small team, but a great team. A lot of years 752 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: people coming from Victoria's Secret and nice uh and and 753 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: and other lines in the in the women's intimate space 754 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: that have kind of taken us from this is what 755 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: we want to do to hoh and the heck are 756 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: we in China and in Paris picking up fabrics and 757 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: things of that nature. So it just it was really catapulted. 758 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: And you know, in business it's all about who you know, 759 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: which we know that, and we just happened to be 760 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: dropping to the lapse of one of the most perfect people. 761 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: So trust me, I will be hitting you ladies, hitting 762 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: you guys for you lady sizes, and we'll go from there. 763 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: You'll be happy with you. Look, you will be happy to. 764 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 6: This is why you're no thanks for helping the brother out. 765 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 6: Why you're busy? And now I know why you're so busy. 766 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 2: You know your dad, you know you you got golf, 767 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: You've got TBS, you got the six one one podcast, 768 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: you're working for the Phillies. Still you know you're running 769 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 2: around You've got five different businesses going. 770 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 5: You're selling pot and women's intimates. 771 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: You know that's getting better. 772 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 6: Maybe make it happen. 773 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 5: And this conversation all started with how we were always 774 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 5: impressed by your arm slought was so consistent. 775 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 776 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 2: Well, Jimmy, thanks much, Thanks so much for the time, man, 777 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: have a have a merry Christmas. 778 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 6: Happy man. 779 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: Thank you guys. 780 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 2: I hope you see that nice balance the year in 781 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame boat. We we really hope you 782 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 2: get in it at some point. 783 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. 784 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: You know, you and Chase for sure. 785 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 6: All the best of your girls. Man, you'd be thank 786 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 6: you these young ladies. 787 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: Yes, you also mentioned I was an Uber driver too, 788 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: because I drive them everywhere. I'm an unpaid Uber driver. 789 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: We we got to throw that out there, but thank you. 790 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. This was a lot of fun 791 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: come on with you guys. I know Rub has been 792 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: trying to get me on for a while. I wasn't 793 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: this year. It was just I had so much going on. 794 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: We were able to hurt it together and uh, you know, 795 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: spend some time with you guys. Some of my old 796 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: school homies appreciated guys,