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Speaker 1: Welcome to the two thousand and eighteen NFL Draft. That's
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Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I love it. I love it. I
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Speaker 1: is the twenty eighteen NFL Drafts. I'm so happy to
Speaker 1: be with my scouting buddies who've made this journey with me,
Speaker 1: uh since really December and then we started doing these
Speaker 1: shows in January to get to these days. Don't sell
Speaker 1: Dane short. You know I'm looking at I know, I know,
Speaker 1: but I'm just talking about our little group, our little
Speaker 1: our little band of scouts, our little Scouting department here
Speaker 1: has done, I think a great job of putting together
Speaker 1: some boards, some ideas, uh you know, maybe where some
Speaker 1: of these guys are gonna go. We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot of fun doing this for the next three days.
Speaker 1: So I'm really happy that everybody's out there with us. Uh, guys,
Speaker 1: if you dive into this thing right off the bat,
Speaker 1: and again we're we're about, you know, twenty three minutes
Speaker 1: away from getting really involved with this. When you when
Speaker 1: you look at things that have happened earlier, some of
Speaker 1: the things that we're starting to hear, and we kind
Speaker 1: of thought all along, okay, the quarterbacks, where the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: gonna go? What what place are they gonna be? Where?
Speaker 1: You know, how's this draft gonna be shaped? And allustin
Speaker 1: you get the news of Baker Mayfield is going off
Speaker 1: potentially is the first overall pick. And I and I
Speaker 1: can't think that we ever really talked about Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: being the first overall pick or potentially not being the
Speaker 1: first overall pick, not once, not never, and I don't
Speaker 1: know that it's because of anything necessarily with Baker Mayfield, right,
Speaker 1: we were just so locked into Sam Darnold right as being.
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked a little bit about Josh Allen
Speaker 1: when those rumors started to heat up. I don't think
Speaker 1: we ever took those two seriously, But we locked in
Speaker 1: on Sam Darnold so much that you know, we didn't
Speaker 1: we didn't really talk that much about Baker, like you said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's my buddy John Dorsey up there in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and he's kept this pick pretty quiet. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: that's what he's always done. And he's always done that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He we saw last year with the trade. Yeah, you know, nobody, everybody,
Speaker 1: nobody saw that thing coming from where it came. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I feel like though that you know, they
Speaker 1: depending on you know, guys like Chris Mortenson reporting Will
Speaker 1: John knew his guy six weeks ago and told the owner.
Speaker 1: You know, he this timeline of kind of mad if
Speaker 1: you're Hugh Jackson and you didn't know until two days ago,
Speaker 1: you know what. I think John was really worried about
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson. I think he was worried about the league.
Speaker 1: I really don't I think that he John John is
Speaker 1: like like Dane says, you know, and I was with
Speaker 1: John and Green Bay. John is very protective of that board.
Speaker 1: He is very protective of that board, and he didn't
Speaker 1: want a situation where you know, people were you know,
Speaker 1: getting out scrutinizing the pick. Now again, the pick has
Speaker 1: to still be made. But it looks like all indications
Speaker 1: as we as we get ready to go on the
Speaker 1: clock here in a little bit that the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: are going to take Baker Mayfield at quarterbacks. It does
Speaker 1: because I posted my draft board today and I didn't
Speaker 1: have Baker may He is my fifth quarterback of that group.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that would surprise me. Now again I'll tell
Speaker 1: you the story about John Dorsey here as we is
Speaker 1: again as we make our way to the to the
Speaker 1: top of the hour, I know that John Dorsey was
Speaker 1: looking at a situation where at Cleveland they have a terrible,
Speaker 1: terrible culture, you know, one win in two years. Yeah, John,
Speaker 1: it was important to John, and I do know this
Speaker 1: for a fact. It was important to John that he
Speaker 1: had a player that could go into that locker room
Speaker 1: when things were bad and the teammates would believe in
Speaker 1: him no matter how bad it was, that he was
Speaker 1: all and that player was always going to believe that
Speaker 1: quarterback was always going to believe he was in every game.
Speaker 1: Where did you work with John Dorsey Green Bay? Who
Speaker 1: is your quarterback? Brett farf Okay, that that I mean?
Speaker 1: And you don't want to put that on Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: but I did. And that's because that's what a lot
Speaker 1: of people wanted to paint a picture of what John
Speaker 1: Dorsey wants in a quarterback. And John Dorsey likes heightweight, speed,
Speaker 1: we know that, but in other positions when we talk
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position, he wants winners, right, And with
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield thirty four and six as a starter at Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: three Big Twelve titles to playoff appearances, he's a winner.
Speaker 1: And so it's no surprise at all to me that
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is in consideration here and that John Dorsey
Speaker 1: likes him A little surprising that if he ends up
Speaker 1: being the number one pick. Sure, I think that is
Speaker 1: a little surprising, just because I think we were so
Speaker 1: settled in on Darnold being that guy. But it does
Speaker 1: it should not surprise us. That's what makes this interesting
Speaker 1: to me. Is not so much that Baker Mayfield is
Speaker 1: allegedly going to be the number one overall pick. But again,
Speaker 1: and I'm stating the obvious a little bit here, but
Speaker 1: it only takes one pick to turn this whole thing
Speaker 1: on its head. And so you're not just talking about
Speaker 1: number one, but all of a sudden, what else have
Speaker 1: we heard? We've heard that the quarterback the Giants, the
Speaker 1: only quarterback that they're interested in drafting is darn Well.
Speaker 1: For a month and a half, we were, well, get
Speaker 1: in line, you're not getting him because the Browns are
Speaker 1: Now what now Giants are taking a quarterback? Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: they're less willing to trade out of that pick or
Speaker 1: draft sae Quon Barkley two overall. I mean it changes
Speaker 1: every and then you know, if Sam Darnold's the second
Speaker 1: quarterback taken, now that changes. You know, We've been slotting
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield into the Jets at three for a month
Speaker 1: and a half. Sure, well, what I mean, do they
Speaker 1: like Josh Rosen enough to draft him? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna be h Allen, do you think do
Speaker 1: you think that the Giants are It's gonna sound crazy
Speaker 1: because that has the second overall pick do you think
Speaker 1: they're in a bad spot because now they're they're struggling
Speaker 1: with that. They maybe didn't see Baker Mayfield going ahead
Speaker 1: of them. Do you think now, I mean they've done all?
Speaker 1: Or are they going to stand in there and pick
Speaker 1: that running back? It's their fault if they didn't see
Speaker 1: this coming. You know, you've got to be prepared for
Speaker 1: every scenario. I don't think it's never a bad thing
Speaker 1: picking two. You know, there's one player off the board,
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Giants, assuming it's Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants were taking Baker Mayfield. What
Speaker 1: it does if you're the Giants, it opens up possibilities
Speaker 1: for trades. There you go, and so are already being
Speaker 1: discussed on Twitter sphere if you're looking in the right places.
Speaker 1: And Dave Gettlman, I have a hard time seeing Buffalo
Speaker 1: going up, just because I don't think Dave Gettlman wants
Speaker 1: to trade out of the top ten. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: think he does either. But if Denver comes calling at
Speaker 1: pick number five, sure, because if that happens, quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: going one, two, three, and you're guaranteed if you're the Giants,
Speaker 1: you're guaranteed sake one Berkeley, Bradley Chubb, whoever, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever non quarterback you want there, assuming they want a
Speaker 1: non quarterback, right, you're guaranteed, you know, one of those
Speaker 1: top guys at number five. So it's a lot easier
Speaker 1: to trade back from two to five. Feel good about
Speaker 1: the guy you're getting, plus whatever they're getting the trade.
Speaker 1: It's in my best interest as a Cowboys reporter for
Speaker 1: the Giants to not do this but just draft Sam Darnold. Idiots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like that, I would. Why aren't we talking
Speaker 1: about that? I mean we're like I just said, it
Speaker 1: was a foregone conclusion. He's been I mean, he's your
Speaker 1: QB one, and it's been a foregone conclusion for six
Speaker 1: weeks that he's not going to be available to you.
Speaker 1: And now he's about to fall in your lap and
Speaker 1: you don't want him your quarterbacks thirty seven and he's
Speaker 1: been trending downward for three years? Yeah, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: See what the hell's going on? Yeah? To me, this
Speaker 1: is you know, if you're like Dane always says, you
Speaker 1: don't want to be in this position again, you don't
Speaker 1: want to be draft in two overall, and so do
Speaker 1: you know, do you make hey and go ahead and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take this quarterback and we're gonna sit him
Speaker 1: for a year, sit him for two years and then
Speaker 1: kind of figure things out. If you don't if if
Speaker 1: if you're the Giants and you don't draft a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you're limiting yourself to like a two maybe three year
Speaker 1: window where you might be competitive with Eli Manning. But
Speaker 1: that's and this goes back to the Tony Romo conversation.
Speaker 1: And you know, we all thought, and it's worked out
Speaker 1: for other reasons, but we thought Tony Romo would have
Speaker 1: two or three years to compete with Zeke and it
Speaker 1: was a game. Yeah, so good point. I just think
Speaker 1: that's the lunacy and and and the Cowboys of twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen were a lot more ready to compete, I think
Speaker 1: than the Giants of twenty eighteen. So I just just
Speaker 1: draft your quarterback. Guys. I don't know why, I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're thinking, but yeah I can't. And again, yeah,
Speaker 1: if I'm I want, I want the Giants to draft
Speaker 1: sae Quon Barkley or trade out of that pick and
Speaker 1: draft Bradley Chubb, because it means they're not going to
Speaker 1: be as good as quick in my opinion, you can
Speaker 1: throw this back at me in the fall if they
Speaker 1: start six and oh but I just, I just I don't.
Speaker 1: This seems like a no brainer to me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just you know, John Dorsey will be He'll be judged
Speaker 1: on this decision. I mean, there's clearly he will be.
Speaker 1: He will be. Hey, you know, in the history for
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and and Dame Burglar has lived it, you know.
Speaker 1: Last the last Browns general manager to have I think
Speaker 1: four years at the four year ten year was uh,
Speaker 1: I like fifteen years ago. I can't remember exactly when,
Speaker 1: but it's been a while. I mean, you just you
Speaker 1: don't have a long leash here if you're John Dorsey. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's tied to Baker Mayfield for better or for worse,
Speaker 1: for better, for worse. Not to mention this is I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't draft a non prototypical quarterback any higher than this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is I mean, this is going to be the
Speaker 1: highest that a non prototype has ever gone. I mean, okay, oh, sure,
Speaker 1: you can throw Drew Brees at me all you want,
Speaker 1: Russ second round, yeah, second round, second round, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, there there are. You have Baker Mayfield as
Speaker 1: a one or two. There you go. I mean you
Speaker 1: could you could argue that fifteen is ambitious for him,
Speaker 1: just based on size and all that time and the
Speaker 1: offense that he played in. Yeah, you're gonna draft him one.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a that's an old school scout banging
Speaker 1: his head against the wall right there. But although John Dorsey, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, and and John and I were together, I
Speaker 1: mean that this We said this off the air, though,
Speaker 1: and I think we all agree. Maybe you might not,
Speaker 1: mister Lake affect snow wind Man, Me and Dane are
Speaker 1: on the same page. If I'm if I'm not drafting
Speaker 1: Rosen or Darnold one, if I'm picking between Alan and Baker,
Speaker 1: sure me Baker every time. Yeah I don't. Oh no,
Speaker 1: you guys clearly don't like I don't like him at all. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's not one. Not on the top ten. No, on
Speaker 1: my draft board. Baker Mayfield's ten overall. So I don't
Speaker 1: think this is a huge reach. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: think he's deserving a top ten consideration. He's my Darnald,
Speaker 1: my clear top quarterback. And then I've gone back and
Speaker 1: forth with Rosen and Mayfield throughout the process. I started
Speaker 1: Mayfield over Rosen. I finished Rosen slightly ahead of Mayfield
Speaker 1: nine ten on my board. So two and three are
Speaker 1: very close. And then Josh Allen's a distant fourth down
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the first round. So you know,
Speaker 1: I again, I get it. I understand why if Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: if he is the pick, I certainly understand it. And
Speaker 1: it's going to be fun to watch. And you know,
Speaker 1: you think about some of the moves the Browns made.
Speaker 1: Jervis Landry S was more of a within ten yards
Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage type of guy. Absolutely Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: I mean that Jervis Landry right into his game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: anything underneath and my mediot right, Yeah, what did Baker
Speaker 1: have at Oklahoma Mark Andrews. Yeah, a guy that could
Speaker 1: go down the se go down the seam and be
Speaker 1: a kind of a safety valve. David and Joku draft
Speaker 1: in the first round last year. Yeah, he's poised to
Speaker 1: really kind of have a breakout season the NFL and
Speaker 1: year two. So I think the offense is set up
Speaker 1: well for it. The only thing that is the question
Speaker 1: mark is the offensive line. U in Cleveland they lost
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, they lost a lot of pieces. That's he
Speaker 1: had a strong offensive line in Norman. He's not going
Speaker 1: to have that in Cleveland right now, so they need
Speaker 1: to protect him. Kind of keeping an eye on what's
Speaker 1: going on at the AT and T Stadium there. That's
Speaker 1: pretty nice, It looks very nice. I think the NFL
Speaker 1: did a heck of a job and I know the
Speaker 1: folks are going to have a good time everybody hanging out.
Speaker 1: I saw a graphic just flash by that. The rumor
Speaker 1: is that the Broncos are trying to get to the
Speaker 1: Giants pick at two Darnel. Yeah, so keep an eye
Speaker 1: on that one right there. Again, this is so we're
Speaker 1: about twelve minutes away from the Commissioner Goodell going to
Speaker 1: the podium and uh and officially opening this draft up.
Speaker 1: You think it's gonna make any difference to the people
Speaker 1: in attendance that if he comes out with Jason Witten
Speaker 1: and Roger Staubach, Well, I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: there's a lot of folks in Dallas that really doesn't
Speaker 1: appreciate what he did to their football team last year.
Speaker 1: The answers, no, yeah, it's not gonna I was trying
Speaker 1: to be diplomatic about it. Lick a difference. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to be at all. The
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys are picking nineteen in this draft, and I
Speaker 1: you know, we've we've kind of touched on a lot
Speaker 1: of different scenarios, Dane. When you know, we we've kind
Speaker 1: of learned about talking with Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: that that Vitaveya has made an appearance as a as
Speaker 1: a possibility. Now I feel like that vita Vea is
Speaker 1: going to have to dodge the mine field, you know,
Speaker 1: and tell me if I'm wrong, Dane. Of like the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins at thirteen starts at ten, really think so Oakland, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to go that high and he has a possibility,
Speaker 1: so Miami in there, team. I'm just kind of I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of you know, John Gruden seems like to me,
Speaker 1: every time John Ruin has ever been a draft, he
Speaker 1: sits in drafts offensive players. You know, I just gotta
Speaker 1: feel like that that. But so, but if you're saying
Speaker 1: it starts in ten, you know I wouldn't I wouldn't
Speaker 1: dispute what you're saying right there. But I feel like
Speaker 1: though that you know, he seems like the guy that
Speaker 1: they like, but probably the most unrealistic guy getting to them,
Speaker 1: probably because I mean they love Derwin James too, but
Speaker 1: that's gonna have to be a trade up there as well.
Speaker 1: I think he's a little more realistic than Derwin, but
Speaker 1: I'd be pretty surprised if he's there at nineteen. You
Speaker 1: mentioned h Washington. I think Los Angeles the Chargers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are seventeen. They watched the Chargers tonight, folks,
Speaker 1: because the Chargers could take a player that you really like.
Speaker 1: They're always unpredictable. They are very unpredictable there. But they
Speaker 1: also they were in the mix. And I know in
Speaker 1: your mock draft you were talking about with Layton Vanderesh
Speaker 1: they were going to the Chargers. And that's a guy
Speaker 1: that's kind of been tied to the Cowboys. I know
Speaker 1: we've tied him to the team here the last the
Speaker 1: last a couple of shows that we've done, the draft
Speaker 1: shows that we've done. So keep an eye on the
Speaker 1: Chargers tonight as a team that could potentially steal a
Speaker 1: guy that you might want in the first round. Chargers
Speaker 1: thirty first in the league last year against the run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's why we just mentioned Vita Vea and while
Speaker 1: we mentioned Layton Vanderesh, two guys that will help them
Speaker 1: get better in the run game. They need help in
Speaker 1: both nose tackle and at the linebacker positions. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely spot on with that. Chargers could
Speaker 1: take one of those two players that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: their eye on. What's the highest? You could see vander
Speaker 1: Esch going seventeen. I can see him going eleven, Wow, Miami.
Speaker 1: It depends on when. Okay, so I think Roquan good
Speaker 1: chance he's gone at six Indianapolis. I think it's a
Speaker 1: perfect fit for Mattieberflus, the defensive coordinator, what he's doing there.
Speaker 1: Should we be shocked if Vanderesh goes off the board
Speaker 1: before Tremaine Edmonds, even after all of this, it's a
Speaker 1: little surprising. Yeah, yeah, I just if Edmonds has always
Speaker 1: been tied to the forty nine ers at nine, I
Speaker 1: think nine and ten. Edmonds I think goes one of
Speaker 1: those two spots. And then once those two linebackers are
Speaker 1: off the board, Vanderesh's open season eleven Miami, thirteen, Washington,
Speaker 1: and then you know, we start to go through the
Speaker 1: mine field of the teams before we get to nineteen.
Speaker 1: So uh, and there's been a lot of chatter this
Speaker 1: week about the medicals, but I've reached out to teams,
Speaker 1: You've reached out to teams. Does not sound like for
Speaker 1: the majority of teams it's going to be an issue. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then per per this organization had a chance to
Speaker 1: visit with them about Layton Vanderesh and they give him
Speaker 1: a no issue on the neck. So that is if
Speaker 1: you're a Layton Vanderesh fan, that would be good news
Speaker 1: for you. He is, he's clean to be selected and
Speaker 1: at nineteen we've kind of always talked about him being
Speaker 1: that guy. Do you guys feel like though we've kind
Speaker 1: of held strong with the whole theory of defense first
Speaker 1: linebacker first in this because of the depth of the position.
Speaker 1: I know we've worn that out talking about the wide
Speaker 1: receivers and potentially, hey, could you come back in you
Speaker 1: know tomorrow tomorrow night. First, I think first preference is
Speaker 1: going to be defense based on the need, the depth
Speaker 1: of the position, the I mean, the quality of the
Speaker 1: players for that matter. I mean Vida Veya's best defensive
Speaker 1: tackle in the draft. Absolutely, so there's that and then
Speaker 1: just but you got to see who gets to you
Speaker 1: because and I think you know, if if Vya and
Speaker 1: vander esh are gone for over Sean Evans in there,
Speaker 1: if you want to if I think you started looking
Speaker 1: at wide receivers, yeah, I think you look at wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Kind of got the opinion though that. And we've talked
Speaker 1: about We've talked about the Boston college kid Landry. Yeah, everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody really likes Landry, but it seems like to me
Speaker 1: kind of getting a vibe that they'd have to be
Speaker 1: wiped out to potentially grab a guy like Landry. I
Speaker 1: think that bothers you done it a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't love it. I don't love I mean if
Speaker 1: I don't love the thought that he's like a last resort,
Speaker 1: because I think he's better than that. Likes and you
Speaker 1: mentioned him not being strong against the run. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Nineteen overall, you get a guy that's capable of double
Speaker 1: digit sacks, teach him to play the run later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let Tyrone Crawford play the run. This guy go gets sacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why you draft guys in the first round. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I've been saying this for the last month. I think ideally,
Speaker 1: in an ideal world, it's linebacker, wide receiver of first
Speaker 1: two rounds. Uh, probably in that order, but not necessarily
Speaker 1: in that order. Um, you know, if they get wiped out,
Speaker 1: I think DJ Moore that's who I'm looking at it
Speaker 1: in nineteen. That's and that's I think their preference. I
Speaker 1: think Dave Hellman will be happy about that, would be well,
Speaker 1: It's funny I had this conversation off the air. I
Speaker 1: would be thrilled because I love him as a player.
Speaker 1: I think he's great. Don't think he'd be good right away,
Speaker 1: and I think he'd be a big part of the
Speaker 1: offense going forward. But my first he's not my first
Speaker 1: choice for what I think this team needs in the
Speaker 1: first round. Sure, because I, like I keep saying, I'm
Speaker 1: a broken record. I think you can win games with
Speaker 1: the receivers here, and especially you can find a guy
Speaker 1: tomorrow or maybe even Saturday, hopefully tomorrow that can do
Speaker 1: the job for you, you know. I And so I'd
Speaker 1: much rather have a linebacker or a defensive tackle in
Speaker 1: the first round based on need and what's available. In
Speaker 1: my final mok Landry off the board, Vey off the board,
Speaker 1: Van Drush off the board More and Rashaun Evans are
Speaker 1: sitting there. Which direction would you rather than go? That's tough.
Speaker 1: That's it's tough because like Evans, Evans makes more sense
Speaker 1: based on not just this team, but the landscape of
Speaker 1: the draft. I'm just trying to poke holes and everything
Speaker 1: you just said. I know, but I do a good job,
Speaker 1: by the way, Like like early in the draft, in
Speaker 1: my heart, my heart's on the table like DJ more DJ,
Speaker 1: and my head is like, no, we need to pick Evans,
Speaker 1: like and I'd probably and that's Evans and no, literally,
Speaker 1: I I would hand it in like my homework to
Speaker 1: my teacher, like here you go, Like like DJ Moore
Speaker 1: is like a new video game and Rashaan Evans is
Speaker 1: like a new pair of dress shoes. You know, You're
Speaker 1: like I need these, but I'd rather be playing FIFA,
Speaker 1: you know, So like yeah, no, you're welcome. You can
Speaker 1: use that. I mean, I mocked I mocked Evans in
Speaker 1: our final look our final guests, which I'm not super
Speaker 1: confident that's gonna be right, but I just that's the
Speaker 1: idea that I have. You're thinking they're gonna go again
Speaker 1: on what they did last year, they feel like it's
Speaker 1: very similar to the taco, And okay, hate on the taco,
Speaker 1: pick all you want, but if it looks a lot better,
Speaker 1: would you agree It looks a lot better when you
Speaker 1: factor in that drafting Taco at twenty eight, got you
Speaker 1: Cheeto and Jordan Lewis right, right, No, I totally agree
Speaker 1: with you. So if I tell you you can get,
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna draft Rashaun Evans or Layton vander
Speaker 1: esh at nineteen, but you're gonna get James Washington at
Speaker 1: eighty one. Yeah, not doing anything for you if things
Speaker 1: work out, because last year when it's Saint Brown, for
Speaker 1: all of my fans of the X receiver all throw him.
Speaker 1: Like if I can get Saint Brown and eighty one
Speaker 1: and the linebacker at nineteen, well I did it in
Speaker 1: this last mock, the last market. I picked the safety.
Speaker 1: I picked the safety at two. Yeah, I went ahead,
Speaker 1: and at fifty, I just went ahead and hit more
Speaker 1: from from Southern Miss and say, because I feel liked it.
Speaker 1: Maybe this wide receiver class will stretch. I think it will.
Speaker 1: Maybe that they they talked about, they talked about they
Speaker 1: like two safeties. Yeah, I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: More and I think it's James and that maybe not,
Speaker 1: that's not the order, But I think that James and
Speaker 1: Moore are two guys that they really really like. I agree,
Speaker 1: And so just just doing all more draft. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: go DJ Moore in the first more to various more
Speaker 1: received him so other missing the second sky more in
Speaker 1: the third, Hey, there's more and more. Who's at LSU fullback?
Speaker 1: J D. Moore? D Day way to go man? Like, yeah, way,
Speaker 1: he's sitting on his couch somewhere watching he does He's
Speaker 1: not even paying attention. Let me also throw something out
Speaker 1: there of kind of hearing some whispers. Uh, if they
Speaker 1: the offensive line situation, if they were once again really
Speaker 1: stuck at spot, that's that seems like a last resort.
Speaker 1: That's all that defined stuck. Like, what do you want consider?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't the guys she's talking about they're all off the
Speaker 1: literally everyone everyone, every wide receiver. Yeah, if it's a
Speaker 1: wide receiver that they I don't I mean to draft
Speaker 1: an no lineman nineteen? I yeah, I think it'd be
Speaker 1: stuck is if they Yeah, if say say that More
Speaker 1: and Ridley, we've talked about the linebackers, both of the
Speaker 1: wide receivers run veya gone right, Yeah, I mean you're
Speaker 1: talking about like all five of your other guys are
Speaker 1: gone and right, maybe you look at James Daniels that
Speaker 1: I'm saying James Daniel would be a great glinche. Right,
Speaker 1: So I couldn't figure out why they were bringing those
Speaker 1: guys in. I mean, I couldn't figure out why they're
Speaker 1: bringing the offensive tackles in. Cover your bases, Cover your basses.
Speaker 1: But then maybe you were talking about moving Lyle Collins.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting if McGlinchey and Daniels are both there,
Speaker 1: which direction they would go? Can you trade? Can someone
Speaker 1: come get those guys? Yeah? See that's we we on
Speaker 1: our on our show the other day, Dane, we went
Speaker 1: to Carolina at twenty two. Yeah, and David, if I'm
Speaker 1: not if I'm not mistaken, we picked up Carolinas. I
Speaker 1: believe it was eighty. We got eighty five, So we
Speaker 1: picked up Carolina's eighty five and the third so we
Speaker 1: went you're picking twenty four fifty eighty one eighty five, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not too shabby. And that was and that was
Speaker 1: allowed us to grab Evans. Yeah, right there, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: the best trade back scenario that would get you in
Speaker 1: position to take a guy that you like would be
Speaker 1: with Carolina. If you can do it now, you need
Speaker 1: one of those. I mean, it might be one of
Speaker 1: those offensive linemen need to be there for that. You
Speaker 1: just you need exactly, you need somebody to be there
Speaker 1: because and you know, I think about all the time.
Speaker 1: I think about the Travis Frederick trade back, right, And so, okay,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a quarterback, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be a tackle, clearly because San Francisco came
Speaker 1: out first, safety for safety. But I really feel like
Speaker 1: that was more about the Cowboys just being desperate to
Speaker 1: get away from that than the miners just dying to
Speaker 1: go up and make a pick, you know, right, So
Speaker 1: oh that was a that was a that was blow
Speaker 1: the hatches and go for the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't see the Cowboys doing that
Speaker 1: under this management. Like they're prepared one way or the other.
Speaker 1: They know they're they're gonna have an option that they're
Speaker 1: willing to take at at nineteen one way or the other.
Speaker 1: We still we still an agreement of who we would
Speaker 1: trade up for. I think it's unrealistic with the Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but is Derwin James is that is that we still
Speaker 1: on board with that one. We talked a lot about
Speaker 1: the trade up options and Roque one was the one
Speaker 1: guy that I would trade up for. Yeah, Derwin I
Speaker 1: was kind of on the fence one. I'll get my
Speaker 1: two to go get him because I think he's a
Speaker 1: special player. Derwin, I like, Um, I just don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna give up that two to go get him.
Speaker 1: I'm on the fence on that one still am I
Speaker 1: think that you think the the Earl Thomas talk has died.
Speaker 1: Not yet, You're still hanging. It's hanging in there until
Speaker 1: the Cowboys pick of fifty. Yeah, that's it's it's not
Speaker 1: over until tomorrow. I worry about Seattle trying to get
Speaker 1: there two. Well, no ahead of That's that's why I
Speaker 1: worry about it's over. It's over if Seattle trades back
Speaker 1: from eighteen tonight, because then they're gonna get something. They'll
Speaker 1: get a second or third round pick and they'll say
Speaker 1: we don't need you anymore. Yeah. I think that's where tonight.
Speaker 1: If you see Seattle, if we get Seattle on the
Speaker 1: clock and all of a sudden, you know, then you
Speaker 1: get in New England or somebody like that to be involved. Okay,
Speaker 1: it looks like that we've hit the top of the
Speaker 1: hour here, seven o'clock Central time. We should be getting
Speaker 1: the commissioner coming to the podium. Forty thousand people in
Speaker 1: that stadium, something like that. I mean, it's it looks
Speaker 1: like a very exciting atmosphere. It's cool to see all
Speaker 1: the different fan base. Yeah, it is, and that's always
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Once you can also want to say um,
Speaker 1: thank you to our fans not only across the country,
Speaker 1: but across the pond, as they would say, right yeah,
Speaker 1: or UK, Caortugal, all over Ireland. Yeah, you guys got
Speaker 1: another one. I got it. I think Australia I got today.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of late folks change out all
Speaker 1: my appreciate that. Okay, they're taking a look right now
Speaker 1: into the Cleveland war Room. That's John Dorsey starts. He's
Speaker 1: not wearing that like Bill Clinton, going for a jog
Speaker 1: sweatshirt and he doesn't have his he doesn't have his
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown gray sweatshirt, John Brown War. He shows up
Speaker 1: to a new team and he's like, I want a
Speaker 1: heather gray sweatshirt with the oldest, crappiest looking logo you
Speaker 1: got and it needs to have been made in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty eight. It's easy to spot him, you know, you
Speaker 1: go to the Senior Bowl, go to you know, some
Speaker 1: of these scouting events. He's always got the got the
Speaker 1: gray sweat top on for sure. And but go on
Speaker 1: eBay to find that, Yeah, we're soon to have the
Speaker 1: orb orb the GM of a team and just say, hey,
Speaker 1: make me this, Yeah, just just give me the nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty eight sweatop. I'll be happy to wear that. Cleveland
Speaker 1: will be on the clock, followed by the New York Giants,
Speaker 1: and then it is the New York Jets. We're kind
Speaker 1: of holding tight here to see if something does happen
Speaker 1: with that second overall pick. There's some rumors and speculation
Speaker 1: that Denver is trying to move from five to get
Speaker 1: to two. We'll see if Dave Getleman bites on that.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be We talked about this a little bit
Speaker 1: off the air, but who's gonna be the surprise team
Speaker 1: this year that trades up for a quarterback or just
Speaker 1: drafts a quarterback and see and I liked I liked
Speaker 1: your answer. Yeah, because the Saints make so much sense.
Speaker 1: But it's almost not a surprise. It's not a surprise
Speaker 1: at all. We've talked about a million times. All Right,
Speaker 1: what about I think the Saints will give next years
Speaker 1: one to go New England's not a surprise either. What
Speaker 1: about Baltimore? That's Baltimore and Cincinnati last, this is his
Speaker 1: last draft. Cincinnati would be way more surprising to me
Speaker 1: than Baltimore because Baltimore picks low enough that it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Sixteen and Joe Flacco is Joe Flacco. I mean he's
Speaker 1: he's trending down the same way. Eli, Man, where do
Speaker 1: they have to go to get Lamar Jackson? They might
Speaker 1: not have to go. I think they'd have to get
Speaker 1: a front of Arizona at fifteen. That's true. Uh, you
Speaker 1: think Arizona? I mean, Arizona is definitely looking at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Arizona might have the worst quarterback situation in the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, how dare you talk that way about Sammy
Speaker 1: Sleeves Bradford. Yeah, Sean lee looks like iron Man compared
Speaker 1: to the greatest. I mean, nobody's made more money doing
Speaker 1: not a lot than that guy. I admire it. Speaking
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma Big twelve quarterbacks. Uh, yeah, true, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Baltimore is in the discussion you
Speaker 1: mentioned New England. I don't I see that. Do England
Speaker 1: be surprising to me just because we've not seen them
Speaker 1: do something like that, I mean in a long long time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen them stay put and take a
Speaker 1: quarterback in a second or in the third, but to
Speaker 1: trade up into the first to take a quarterback would
Speaker 1: be a pretty substantial move, especially if it's for Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: who is obviously a big difference in terms of style.
Speaker 1: The whispers are that they like him though, that's the
Speaker 1: whispers they brought. They've done work on him. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know, it wouldn't be a total shock, but I'd
Speaker 1: still be surprised to see it happen. The quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: they they've they've brought in. They did bring in Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: they did bring in Josh Rose, and Kyle Loletta was
Speaker 1: brought in as well as a as a quarterback visit.
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see where they're The funny
Speaker 1: thing here is, okay, you know, uh, the Chargers is
Speaker 1: another team that shots to mind. But the funny thing.
Speaker 1: The funny thing about quarterback though, is it's so visible
Speaker 1: and everybody knows about them. Would anybody really be shocked
Speaker 1: if the Chargers drafted one? I mean, Philip Rivers is
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old. It makes sense. We're talking about
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. They're in the same drafts. That's what made
Speaker 1: the Chiefs thing so crazy is that Alex Smith is
Speaker 1: much younger. Like nobody. I did not think Alex Smith
Speaker 1: was about to play as last year in Kansas City
Speaker 1: at this time last year. Um So if you're talking
Speaker 1: about stuff that would come totally out of nowhere, that's
Speaker 1: Cincinnati would be kind of shocking because you're basically just
Speaker 1: pulling the plug on the Andy Dalton era. I mean,
Speaker 1: just bye bye, get out of here. Uh. And this
Speaker 1: isn't a huge surprise, but maybe Pittsburgh, I mean, same draft.
Speaker 1: Well big Ben is not a young guy. Well here
Speaker 1: we go, and uh Kent Garrison executive producing as always. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was right commissioning Rockadel. He goes to the podium,
Speaker 1: He's gonna open this two thousand and eighteen NFL draft. Oh,
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. M I still got it.
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a souvenir. Great job right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: that puts the Cleveland Browns on the clock time at
Speaker 1: that is at seven h seven thirty, And so the
Speaker 1: journey begins for us here any more motivational words for
Speaker 1: us or no, I just broadcast. I'm just so appreciative
Speaker 1: you guys are here with me today and for this
Speaker 1: whole weekend. I love I love the fact that we
Speaker 1: will have some The Draft Show will have some just
Speaker 1: tremendous coverage these next three days. These players will talk
Speaker 1: about if you're if you're a fan of the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: we love you. If you're a fan of other teams,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about your guys too. We are not
Speaker 1: gonna just be totally Cowboy Cowboys centric. That's just the
Speaker 1: way we like to do things here in the Draft Show.
Speaker 1: We always talk about investigate and educate. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: guarantee you, Dame Brugler will have a scouting report on whoever.
Speaker 1: Two fifty six is. Short of the sixteen Sundays or
Speaker 1: whatever days of the week where they actually play regular
Speaker 1: season games. This is the best three days of the year,
Speaker 1: which and I know you don't have to say it,
Speaker 1: but I know you don't even agree with that. You
Speaker 1: think these are the best three days of the year.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't play the games if you had the choice.
Speaker 1: I think this would be a great gig if you
Speaker 1: didn't have to play the game. It hurt, It hurts
Speaker 1: too much for you to play that. But I love
Speaker 1: I love the preparation to get to this point, and
Speaker 1: I think that we've done a great job of pulling
Speaker 1: this all together. We've talked a little bit about the Browns.
Speaker 1: This the draft. You know, people have had a chance
Speaker 1: now to digest potentially what's going to happen at the
Speaker 1: top of this board, and you know, teams like the Giants.
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler said it. Dave Getlman is a veteran general manager.
Speaker 1: He's a long time Giant scout before that, he's old school.
Speaker 1: He is very old school, and you know, he he
Speaker 1: doesn't care if it's a running back, the guard, whatever.
Speaker 1: He is going to take the player that he wants
Speaker 1: to take. So with that being said, we got to
Speaker 1: about eight minutes on the clock for the Browns and
Speaker 1: heads up, we're not going to be tipping any picks.
Speaker 1: We're not. We're not. We're gonna find out with you
Speaker 1: guys as soon as the picks announced. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: know ahead of times, so we're gonna experience each one
Speaker 1: of these picks with you. Absolutely. So John Dorsey in
Speaker 1: the in the Brown's war room. They look very comfortable there.
Speaker 1: Uh they've Dorsey has known this pick for a while.
Speaker 1: Jim Hasling the owner. Uh, it's not Jim, it's a
Speaker 1: hasl Is Jimmy. Jim has him right, Jim has the
Speaker 1: Bengals linebackers. Exactly. I was. I was like thinking, man,
Speaker 1: that was the wrong guy there. He needs to be
Speaker 1: working out Connor william Exactly. He was at Connor Williams Brot.
Speaker 1: They're showing all the old Cowboy or brown draft picks
Speaker 1: on the board. Yeah, it's just sad. It's just is
Speaker 1: a Browns fan. What what emotion though, Dane? You know
Speaker 1: a long time, you know you're an Ohio kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what emotions do you have about this? Right now?
Speaker 1: You gotta new you got a general manager. You gotta
Speaker 1: feel like it's pretty good at his job, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I feel a lot more confident about the
Speaker 1: Browns than this year than I did last year, the
Speaker 1: previous few years with John Dorsey in charge. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the nineteen ninety nine draft and the Browns
Speaker 1: came back. That's what made me fall in love with
Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, that draft right there, and you know
Speaker 1: it's the Browns have been a constant in the top ten.
Speaker 1: It seems, um and you know, it's seems like they
Speaker 1: missed out on some of the top quarterbacks. On twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: they had the third pick, not the number one pick,
Speaker 1: So they missed out of Andrew Luck two years ago.
Speaker 1: They traded away from Carson Wentz last year to Shaun Watson.
Speaker 1: This year, they have the top pick. It will be
Speaker 1: a quarterback and they're not trading it. It just comes
Speaker 1: down to Willie get the pick. Right, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: It's this is our first look in the war room
Speaker 1: in side center at the start here in Frisco. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got you know, uh, that's as you look at
Speaker 1: the table right there is the scouts. I'll name him
Speaker 1: off to you left to right, Walter Juliffe, Lionel Vitale.
Speaker 1: It's a Jerry Junior's son sitting there, and then Jerry
Speaker 1: Junior is himself, Jon Jarrison Garrett of course, and then
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones greeting some folks here in the war room.
Speaker 1: And as we go around, Will mcclay's there, Charlotte Jones
Speaker 1: Anderson is there as well, right next to Chris Hall.
Speaker 1: Next to Chris Hall in that chair, that empty chair
Speaker 1: will be tough. Well, there's Todd Williams right there. I
Speaker 1: thought he got up out of his chair. But him
Speaker 1: and Adam Pacifica, they are the cap guys, so everybody.
Speaker 1: They got the Senior Scouts at the table, the National
Speaker 1: Scouts at the table, so they're ready to go. Here.
Speaker 1: As you look at the war room, going again left
Speaker 1: to right of all the folks involved, the Papa John's
Speaker 1: pizza boxes in the background are just a nice touch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nice touch. And they'd be very good with some Miller light. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll be some very good with the Papa John's in
Speaker 1: the Miller light. That would be outstanding. And we appreciate
Speaker 1: Miller light. But Dane, you you you really spoke from
Speaker 1: the heart right there. And you're looking now into the
Speaker 1: Cleveland war room, you know, John Dorsey and Hugh Jackson
Speaker 1: are handshakes all around. It will be interesting to see if,
Speaker 1: in fact, this time next year that those two will
Speaker 1: be together, but we'll see. Like I say, Dane Bruger
Speaker 1: thinks it is going to be a quarterback. They're taking
Speaker 1: their full time here. It's going to be a quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: like we just don't know which one, but I assume
Speaker 1: it's Baker Mayfield. And we've talked about that though. We
Speaker 1: think that that that is that is a little bit
Speaker 1: of a surprise. That is a little bit of a surprise.
Speaker 1: Uh you know with the with Baker Mayfield going uh
Speaker 1: to or we think to the Cleveland Browns. It was
Speaker 1: a surprise today and it certainly would have been a
Speaker 1: surprise as when we started this journey, I said, Hey, spoiler,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's gonna be the number one pick back in January. Right,
Speaker 1: you guys would not have believed me. No, we I
Speaker 1: know I would not have believed you right at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've just h I'm very I'm very interested
Speaker 1: to see how uh this thing, uh well, we'll play
Speaker 1: out with with Baker Mayfield. And when I talked about
Speaker 1: it earlier with John Dorsey, he is looking for a
Speaker 1: guy who's accountable in the locker room. He's looking for
Speaker 1: a guy that will lead men. He's looking for a
Speaker 1: quarterback that will that the players will gravitate towards and
Speaker 1: then he uh and then will lead them back again.
Speaker 1: This team has only won one game in two years.
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson got another a year to try and turn
Speaker 1: this around, and uh, you know this is this is
Speaker 1: another opportunity for him to do that. If they don't,
Speaker 1: then I believe that John Dorsey will be looking for
Speaker 1: another head coach. So we will see. But as you
Speaker 1: can see again both the war room cam is up
Speaker 1: and uh and we're waiting for Cleveland's pick. There's still
Speaker 1: three minutes in forty five seconds on the clock. I
Speaker 1: never know, maybe that late trade offer. No, they're just
Speaker 1: drawing this out. It's they know who it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Like you said, John's known for quite a while now,
Speaker 1: he said, what's it was reported six weeks He's probably
Speaker 1: no longer than that. At least had a strong feeling
Speaker 1: who the top quarterback was going to be on his board.
Speaker 1: I just love from the Cowboys perspective, like I mean,
Speaker 1: and you know you got a it'll change, but I mean,
Speaker 1: at this point you're not going up to number one, two, three,
Speaker 1: and so you know, it's all it's fun in games.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. In about forty minutes it's gonna
Speaker 1: shift to a little bit more serious tone. It's just
Speaker 1: fun to watch. Yeah, and again, so we're inside of
Speaker 1: three minutes on the Brown's pick. The best thing about
Speaker 1: this pick is there are a lot of war rooms
Speaker 1: around the league kind of doing what we're doing, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: who's just gonna be? Is it? Is it really gonna
Speaker 1: be Baker? You know, I don't think like there are
Speaker 1: a lot of war rooms who they don't know who
Speaker 1: it's going to be. And I think they're waiting on
Speaker 1: pins and needles just like we are. Would John Dorsey
Speaker 1: actually take Baker Mayfield number one? It's really a fascinating
Speaker 1: dynamic to this and uh yeah, I just I mean
Speaker 1: they've tried. There's there's so much effort has been put in,
Speaker 1: and then the long suffering Brown fans, you know, they've
Speaker 1: just that's that's one of those places where you know,
Speaker 1: you'd love to see Cleveland get back to winning again,
Speaker 1: and that's one of those pillar franchises, you know, And
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, it's found so weird for me
Speaker 1: to hear yeah in my adult well, yeah, exactly what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, because yeah, I grew up with Eric
Speaker 1: Metcalfe and Bernie Kozar and you know those guys in
Speaker 1: the early nineties, and you know it's and John Dorsey.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons he took the
Speaker 1: job so early and didn't wait to interview for other jobs,
Speaker 1: is he wanted to be part of an iconic organization
Speaker 1: and he came from Green Bay rather organization. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: Kansas City, another one of the original franchises. So you
Speaker 1: know it's uh, it's something that means a lot to him,
Speaker 1: and he wants to turn this thing around. I can't.
Speaker 1: He can't get this wrong. Can't get the number one
Speaker 1: He cannot get the number one pick wrong. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's gonna either gonna set the franchise up or set
Speaker 1: them way back. But it looks like the pick is
Speaker 1: in and we will soon have a Commissioner Goodell will
Speaker 1: make that announcements. There's there there. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: there's always like this annoying four minute wait from when
Speaker 1: the pick comes into when they come out and tell us, well,
Speaker 1: the Brown war room again. They look the Brown's war room.
Speaker 1: They look very relaxed, and they've got another pick coming
Speaker 1: up here in a little bit too, unless you know,
Speaker 1: they've got some plans they want to trade that try
Speaker 1: and move this pick. We'll see if in fact that
Speaker 1: they do that. But we're again just waiting for the
Speaker 1: missioner to get to the podium. Who's and make this pick?
Speaker 1: All right? This is a quarterback, whether it's Darnold or
Speaker 1: Baker whatever, Yeah, who's who's? Well, okay, I know who
Speaker 1: could come up for four? Why? Why are the Browns trying?
Speaker 1: What are they seems a little cute for me? What
Speaker 1: trying to get out of? Here? Comes to commissioner to
Speaker 1: talk about it. Here we go, Here comes the commissioner
Speaker 1: to the podium. Let's go. That's gonna go on all
Speaker 1: weekend long. Here it is. Wow, Well, Baker Mayfield is
Speaker 1: in fact the pick. So they managed to keep that
Speaker 1: pick very secret until late in the afternoon, until until yeah,
Speaker 1: until they told you boy, and then and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, so Baker Mayfield. Uh, And and I
Speaker 1: know for a fact that we do a lot of
Speaker 1: work guys with uh with the Jeff Cavanaugh on one
Speaker 1: oh five three, And that was guy that he was
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield all the way. He felt like, uh, that
Speaker 1: that he was gonna be one of the best quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the draft, and sure enough here the uh, I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit brown. I'm a little bit scared of
Speaker 1: drafting a guy who's six flat number one overall. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but six thank I'm sorry, I'm sorry, six flat and
Speaker 1: a half. Um. But I mean I love this dude,
Speaker 1: I would like. I mean, he's he's the type of
Speaker 1: guy that you love him if he's on your team,
Speaker 1: you hate him if he's not. But I love guys
Speaker 1: like that. And yeah, he's a culture changer. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to say right now how well it's gonna
Speaker 1: work out. But like I said, if i'm if I'm
Speaker 1: holding that pick, I think I'm picking Josh Rosen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I like this a lot more than I like
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I'll tell you that. That's the thing. If
Speaker 1: I'm a Bronze fans, Yeah, Josh Allen, feel good about that.
Speaker 1: It's has a walk on ever gone number one? You know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying a fantastic point, not even a
Speaker 1: walk on, but twice a walk on. You know. It's
Speaker 1: just it's fascinating that he's gone in the trajectory of
Speaker 1: his career uh from you know, few offers out of Austin,
Speaker 1: Uh to you know, getting beat out by uh Davis
Speaker 1: Webb and sure Pat Mahomes a tech and then walking
Speaker 1: on to Oklahoma and going thirty four and six there
Speaker 1: and uh being being the guys though it's early as
Speaker 1: fascinating thing. Well, Baker Mayfield is the now the first
Speaker 1: overall pick of the Cleveland Browns. Uh. It's you know,
Speaker 1: when watching Baker Mayfield play, he was one of the
Speaker 1: best protected quarterbacks in this draft. You mean you you
Speaker 1: watch him? You know, the offensive line did a heck
Speaker 1: of a job, Dane, you were talking about the skill guys. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know Lincoln Riley, the head coach, play caller, I thought,
Speaker 1: did great things with him. But you're You're right, Dave.
Speaker 1: I think to me, the old scout in me is
Speaker 1: a little bit worried about the guy that's you know,
Speaker 1: six foot now he can't he might not be able
Speaker 1: to throw in the Lake Erie snowstorm. Brian. Yeah, that's well,
Speaker 1: you know, that's I think you have to. I think
Speaker 1: that physical traits will play a factor in some of this.
Speaker 1: I'm not I am not a I'm not a doubter
Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield. I just know I'm just giving your heart.
Speaker 1: I know you were, but that's what we do here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that you know. Dan's right though,
Speaker 1: it's I think this is one of those intangible picks.
Speaker 1: I think this. I don't think this is the safest
Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft. No, I don't, And maybe if
Speaker 1: you're making the first overall pick. But does he have
Speaker 1: the potential to be the best quarter I'm gonna ask you, guys,
Speaker 1: let's spill on the crystal ball a little bit. Does
Speaker 1: he have the chance to be the best quarterback of
Speaker 1: the ones that are selected today? Do you feel like
Speaker 1: he could be that guy? He's top ten on my board,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he has a chance. It's just,
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, he's not the safest. He
Speaker 1: needs to improve an areas. The biggest worry I have
Speaker 1: is just going from that Oklahoma offense to the NFL
Speaker 1: is going to be a big leap, especially not against
Speaker 1: big twelve defenses. But again, we saw Baker and Columbus
Speaker 1: against a very stout Ohio defense, Ohio State defense. We
Speaker 1: saw Georgia too. Watch a second half of the Georgia
Speaker 1: right Sam Donald call him an opponent we saw him
Speaker 1: and we saw you know, there's Sam Donald did not
Speaker 1: have the offensive line. No, Baker does. Did a nice shot.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about so, Miamy, we can talk big twelve,
Speaker 1: but he did a nice job out of his element
Speaker 1: against a big time defense. So he deserves credit for that.
Speaker 1: I think we've only seen three Big twelve quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the top ten Um Bradford, Mahomes and Mayfield and two
Speaker 1: Oraclea Hooma quarterbacks. And John Dorsey drafted two of those guys,
Speaker 1: Mahomes last year and Baker this year. It's interesting the comparison. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Giants pick is in now that will be first round.
Speaker 1: That's the second overall picks. So good job at the Giant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good job. Dave Getleman knows exactly what he wants to
Speaker 1: do with this pick. Wait till he goes to the podium.
Speaker 1: Do the do the right thing, Giants. No, that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a great thing for the Cowboys if they want
Speaker 1: to not have to worry about the Giants. You know,
Speaker 1: I said this a long time ago about this guy.
Speaker 1: Someone asked me the comparison to Baker Mayfield, and I
Speaker 1: did say, Jeff Garci. That's that's my and then that's
Speaker 1: and that's exactly the what speed show? I mean? Oh,
Speaker 1: Jeff Garcia is a kind of run around. He's a
Speaker 1: he's a he was a Jeff Garcia was a pro bowler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jeff a great career he did he sure did. No,
Speaker 1: I just give me the hit factory. Here we go. Well,
Speaker 1: let's go to podium. The Giants are about to make
Speaker 1: a selection. Okay, I'm not surprised at all. Dave Gettlman
Speaker 1: does not trade back. He stays put and he picks.
Speaker 1: Last year he took Christian McCaffrey. This year he takes
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. I am not surprised at all. Well, sa
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley. Okay, now, Dave, you were talking about that.
Speaker 1: Do you feel you feel better or worse about the
Speaker 1: New York Giants now having a running back with the
Speaker 1: talent of sa Quon Barkley. Listen, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: sae Quon Barkley is a stud and he's gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna make the cowboys very unhappy on a number of occasions.
Speaker 1: But it's a marathon, not a sprint. Man. Uh And
Speaker 1: I look at the Giants, and I look at their
Speaker 1: thirty seven year old quarterback. Who literally, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not just I'm not spitballing here. I've looked this stuff up.
Speaker 1: The guy's been significantly worse every year for the last
Speaker 1: three years. Uh. Their first round tackle Eric Flowers didn't
Speaker 1: pan out. I believe Justin Pugh left, did he not? Aza? Now,
Speaker 1: who's blocking for this kid? Who's who's well? They signed?
Speaker 1: They sold? They sold or signed left tackle? Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is where to quote Marshall ericson not good enough? Yeah,
Speaker 1: to me, this is said that's what he had a
Speaker 1: Penn State though. Okay, let me ask you this. Would
Speaker 1: you've taken Nelson here? Would you taken Quentin Nelson here?
Speaker 1: I think that was actually in the very first What
Speaker 1: do you know about running backs right now? I would
Speaker 1: have taken if I would take quarterback. If I didn't
Speaker 1: take a quarterback, I would have taken Chubb. Okay, you
Speaker 1: would have taken Chubb. I would have you. That's that's
Speaker 1: what I cannot get you to take a guard in
Speaker 1: the first round, can I No? Not that high? Right?
Speaker 1: I would take one in the top seven or eight.
Speaker 1: I mean that I'd take Nelson somewhere in there. But
Speaker 1: I'd I'd rather have I'd rather have Quenton Nelson than
Speaker 1: se Quon Barkley for that team, for that team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I just think, I said, I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just now, maybe Barkley helps that offensive line. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just worry. But I mean, the NFC East is
Speaker 1: a tougher division right now than it was. Yeah, trying
Speaker 1: to block the try and block the Philadelphia Eagles up front.
Speaker 1: But he brings a lot more than just a traditional
Speaker 1: running back to the offense. I mean, he's what he
Speaker 1: can bring is Christian McCaffrey esque, you know, in space,
Speaker 1: catching them all in the backfield, line him up in
Speaker 1: the slot. He can do all those things. So the
Speaker 1: Giants are a better team today, There's no question about it.
Speaker 1: They are. They are a better team today, and they're
Speaker 1: a better team for twenty eighteen. But yeah, this wasn't
Speaker 1: they're going for it with elm Man. This wasn't the
Speaker 1: right call. Yeah, they ad the next decade. I would
Speaker 1: have taken Sam Donald. I agree, But which again, And
Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, the cow always did the
Speaker 1: same thing, And so I feel hypocritical criticizing the Giants
Speaker 1: for doing what the Cowboys did. But that Cowboys team
Speaker 1: was closer to contention than this Giants team in my opinion. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: um so. And and you're picking two also, so keep
Speaker 1: in mind, if the Cowboys had picked two in that draft,
Speaker 1: you think they let Wentz go. I don't. That's a
Speaker 1: fascinating question. That's a fascinating question. But again, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have their pick of the litter of quarterbacks either.
Speaker 1: I mean the Giants, I assume Baker wasn't there QB one,
Speaker 1: so they could have had anybody they wanted and there
Speaker 1: they'd rather have a two year window with Eli Manning.
Speaker 1: And I just don't know. Hey, maybe Davis Webb is
Speaker 1: a stud too, but if well, obviously, but they but
Speaker 1: what did they do last year to Davis Davis? What
Speaker 1: they didn't play and when they should have played him
Speaker 1: at the end, they took They they went ahead and
Speaker 1: and and what did they do? They they went and
Speaker 1: got uh they played Gino Gino, Yeah, Gino Smith. I
Speaker 1: mean instead of given Davis Webb a start, they they
Speaker 1: they gave you know, Gino. So I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: quite get nets. Again, that's why general managers get fired
Speaker 1: and head coaches get fired. It's funny that the last time,
Speaker 1: and yeah, the Giants don't pick up here that often.
Speaker 1: They were pretty well run organizations. Sure, it's funny that
Speaker 1: the last time that they were this putrid, what they
Speaker 1: do they picked? They picked a quarterback to quarterback heared
Speaker 1: the future their franchise. Yeah, he won them two super Bowls,
Speaker 1: right and no, Cowboys fans don't want to give you
Speaker 1: Lie Mann and credit for that, but absolutely you'll take
Speaker 1: that every single time. Yeah. Um, so, I, like I said,
Speaker 1: you know, the NFL's whacky. I'm not going to be
Speaker 1: surprised if the Giants are playoff contenders in twenty eighteen. Um,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that this is the right call.
Speaker 1: When you had a chance to draft a guy that
Speaker 1: could be your quarterback for fifteen years, and again if
Speaker 1: they didn't go quarterback, I think the right choice would
Speaker 1: broadly Chubb pass rusher. Guy's going to impact the pocket,
Speaker 1: second most important position in a roster. No, Jason Pierre
Speaker 1: Paul is gone. Um, you know you still have Olivia Vernon,
Speaker 1: But give me the guy that's going to impact the pocket,
Speaker 1: probably Chubbs. When the best players in this draft he's
Speaker 1: number three on my board. That's a ruction I would
Speaker 1: have went. Let me ask you this with Barkley, though,
Speaker 1: can you compare the impact that he might have? Say
Speaker 1: what it like, Ezekiel Eliot? Oh? Absolutely and that. But
Speaker 1: I would argue, did that Dallas offense because the line
Speaker 1: was more prepared to make Zeke work? There's no debate there, yea.
Speaker 1: But I would say that Barkley is the going to
Speaker 1: be the leading favorite to be offensive Rookie of the
Speaker 1: Year this year. I mean, I think it. We don't know,
Speaker 1: we're two picks in, but I feel safe saying that
Speaker 1: right now. Did just what if? What if my lsu
Speaker 1: homie goes to that team at thirty two in about
Speaker 1: five hours? The only reason you take a running back
Speaker 1: two is if you're going to force feed him the
Speaker 1: ball and make him the featured piece of your offense.
Speaker 1: And so I expect them to really run the wheels
Speaker 1: off of Berkeley. Yeah, handing him in the ball, letting
Speaker 1: him run patterns. I mean just they're going to utilize
Speaker 1: him quite a bit where he's gonna have every opportunity
Speaker 1: to show that you know, the Giants made the right
Speaker 1: pick at number two. Well, that makes the New York
Speaker 1: Jets now on the clock. Their pick is in. This
Speaker 1: is a quarterback, So which one is it? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: let's let's you know that's they're in a situation right
Speaker 1: now where they resigned McCown. They added Bridgewater here as well,
Speaker 1: and so you know they've been searching for a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: It seems like forever Hackenburg and Petty are still on
Speaker 1: the roster. Yeah, so this is gonna be a very
Speaker 1: very I'm sure once, say Mike mcagnan, Well, we'll do
Speaker 1: some housecleaning here once this pick is in. But what
Speaker 1: do we think Darnald? Do you think Rosen? Do we
Speaker 1: think Allen? Who? Do we think? I think Baker? Mayfield
Speaker 1: was who? Yeah? Who? They kind of they did a
Speaker 1: lot of homework on matter of fact, they did bring
Speaker 1: in Rosen. They actually they brought in all four the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They did bring in all four the quarterbacks, Mayfield, Rosen, Allen,
Speaker 1: and Darnald. They did not bring in Jackson. If I'm Cleveland,
Speaker 1: I am hoping for Rosen here. So Darnold falls the four.
Speaker 1: That ups the value of that pick. It's a great point. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: makes a great great you know, I can I cannot
Speaker 1: imagine this not being a quarterback. No, it's quarterback. Has
Speaker 1: to be. You don't trade three second rounders to go
Speaker 1: up three spots to get Bradley Chubb. I love it Chubb. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you are talking about Chubb for sure. Okay, it looks
Speaker 1: like the again. The pick is in and here comes
Speaker 1: the commissioner to the podium. M M well, Sam Darnold.
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold did wind up in New York, y'all? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he sure did, all right, Sam Darnold. Though, you know,
Speaker 1: we everybody kind of thought that Sam Darnold was going
Speaker 1: to be the first overall UH selection by the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: Now he goes to the Jets. That's something now, but everybody,
Speaker 1: that will be the new debate right there. Everyone gave
Speaker 1: the Jets a lot of flak for moving up so
Speaker 1: early in the process. Sure, going up three spots, and
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna well, they're gonna take their third
Speaker 1: quarterback there you gonna shut out. Yeah, it worked out
Speaker 1: for him because there there's a good chance Donald's the
Speaker 1: first quarterback on their board. They got him, and you
Speaker 1: have to feel good about that. And he's going to
Speaker 1: a good situation because like you mentioned, McCown's there, Bridgewater's there.
Speaker 1: Darnald does not have to play day one. He does
Speaker 1: not need to be the starter an opening day. He's
Speaker 1: not going to a bad situation though, because there's nobody
Speaker 1: there for him to play football with. Well not this year, right,
Speaker 1: but see that? That that to me like he could
Speaker 1: be in a situation where all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: he's not playing, and then the whole coaching staff gets
Speaker 1: fired and a new coach comes in there, a new GM,
Speaker 1: and all that thing is, this might give them a
Speaker 1: little more leash you draft to Sam Donald, the current
Speaker 1: coaching staff, the current GM. I love Mike mckeckne, he's
Speaker 1: one of my dear friends. But my gosh, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you if you throw those guys out this year,
Speaker 1: you make your next hire with Sam Darnold as the
Speaker 1: focal point of oh, there's no doubt, you make that
Speaker 1: higher and you say, hey, this guy is under contract
Speaker 1: for four more years and we're not hiring a guy
Speaker 1: who can't develop him and make it work with him. Okay, Dane,
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about Sam Darnold and why
Speaker 1: why he could work at the Jets, and maybe why
Speaker 1: he can't work at the Jets. Well, Jeremy bates the OC.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good fit with what he does.
Speaker 1: He's a kind of an SEC guy, right, I mean
Speaker 1: Jeremy Jeremy. He knows all those sc kids pretty well.
Speaker 1: And with Sam Darnald does best is in movement. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, the second chance plays. Uh. The USC offensive
Speaker 1: line was dreadful, and so whether it's by design or not,
Speaker 1: we got to see him move around a lot and
Speaker 1: create those second chance plays with a little bit of
Speaker 1: magic that he has. So does he's only twenty years old.
Speaker 1: Does he need to get better in some areas, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: But he's the quarterback in this class I'm betting on.
Speaker 1: I'm just it's funny. Well, I'm going back to the
Speaker 1: point I just made, which is the joke. The joke
Speaker 1: is that you don't want to go to Cleveland. People
Speaker 1: have joke for years that, oh, it's good if you
Speaker 1: fall away from the Browns. Right. The Browns are more
Speaker 1: set up to help a young quarterback succeed right now
Speaker 1: than the Jets are. Yeah, you got a pass catching
Speaker 1: tight end, you got some badass wide receivers that can
Speaker 1: help you out. Probably draft of running back back to
Speaker 1: Cleveland real quick with number one in Baker Mayfield. All along,
Speaker 1: we thought that it was going to be Darnald in
Speaker 1: a good situation for Darnold to sit behind Tyrod Taylor
Speaker 1: being that bridge quarterback. One year, he's final year of
Speaker 1: his deal for Tyrod Taylor. Now Baker's there, it's no
Speaker 1: longer a foregone conclusion. Tyrod Taylor's a starter. I mean,
Speaker 1: Baker's not going to go in there and just concede
Speaker 1: the job. Do you think Darnel will be the starter
Speaker 1: at the Jets? No, no, no, no, he shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's right. If you're if you're if
Speaker 1: your job's on the line, maybe I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: you you're talking about buying some more time. If Darnald's
Speaker 1: good enough that he he might start like week eleven.
Speaker 1: But he's not. He's not starting earlier than that. If
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get fired, I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: the guy I picked. But why what's that gonna do?
Speaker 1: It's not gonna say this. Probably it might show the
Speaker 1: owner that you know what, Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Week eleven. I think he has a shot if it
Speaker 1: in the toilet. Yeah, it might be too late by
Speaker 1: week eleven, though, don't you think. Well, okay, I'll say ken,
Speaker 1: and you know I'll say this if you never prede
Speaker 1: I'm staunchly against predetermining playing time right now. Right you
Speaker 1: go to training camp and you let training camp decide that.
Speaker 1: So if Sam Darnold goes to training camp and plays
Speaker 1: really well and shows he's he's ready, then by all
Speaker 1: means play him, but only in that situation. So I'm
Speaker 1: not going to predetermine the playing time for him. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's what training camps for. Man. Hey, never never judge
Speaker 1: a quarterback by the school he's coming out of. But
Speaker 1: they're running through these USC qbs and it is not
Speaker 1: It might be my biggest pet peeves not super encouraging
Speaker 1: doing so many media hits this week. If they're throwing
Speaker 1: them all under the bus. You're talking about USC quarterback, Well,
Speaker 1: what do USC quarterback has done? Well? I don't care,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. All they have in similar is just
Speaker 1: the kel the helmets. Carson Palmer had a great career
Speaker 1: just recently retired. To know it is it's laughable to
Speaker 1: try to compare those things, But it is funny to
Speaker 1: see them all lined up. We're gonna see a trade
Speaker 1: here at number four? Or what do you think? I
Speaker 1: see the it's running down. The clock is now at
Speaker 1: three minutes and forty seconds. And I'd like to believe
Speaker 1: to sit in there for him. Yeah, I would like
Speaker 1: to believe that if you were gonna trade, you would
Speaker 1: have an idea what you wanted to do. Don't be
Speaker 1: cute Cleveland trading. I needs a smart move. Why, yes, me? Why?
Speaker 1: Because I think you're gonna get a good player if
Speaker 1: you trade down and you're gonna pick up more picks.
Speaker 1: Don't the Browns have enough picks? They got a billion picks?
Speaker 1: Get a first rounder next year picking thirty three? Or
Speaker 1: I love Bradley Chubb, but why don't give me the picks?
Speaker 1: Why don't you want Emmanuel Log, Miles Garrett, and Bradley
Speaker 1: Chubb all playing on the same line. I think that'd
Speaker 1: be fun. And that's where I would go in this scenario.
Speaker 1: If I'm the Browns, Bradley Chubb should be the pick.
Speaker 1: But if someone wants one of these quarterbacks Rosen or
Speaker 1: Alan and they give me the offer, uh, and you know,
Speaker 1: if say Buffalo gives me twelve next year's one and
Speaker 1: two or three. This year, I'm doing it. John Dorsey
Speaker 1: has always uh and this is this is the true.
Speaker 1: Dorsey has always been a part of teams where uh,
Speaker 1: premiere uh you know, premiere pass rushers were involved. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean something that they care a lot about, you know,
Speaker 1: And I kind of feel like, though I'm with Dane
Speaker 1: on this one. I think that they're gonna stand in
Speaker 1: here and make this pick, and I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Chubb, just because again Dorsey's background, you know, he's
Speaker 1: always said they're gonna trade. No, I would do that, yes,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but I he thinks they're gonna make the pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna take Chubb. You would you would
Speaker 1: trade the pick if I got the offer. If you
Speaker 1: got the offer and it picks in, they doesn't look
Speaker 1: like that's I'm you know, they're gonna get Bradley Chub here,
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna get a really good player
Speaker 1: because again, you yeah, quarterback the most important position on
Speaker 1: the roster. At one, you get the second most important position.
Speaker 1: At two. You took another one, another pass rusher. Last
Speaker 1: year at number one overall pick. You still have Emmanuel Ogba.
Speaker 1: I just get the rushers, get them all on the field,
Speaker 1: and get after the quarterback. And this is the pick,
Speaker 1: by the way, at fourth overall is the pick that
Speaker 1: they got last year from a trade from the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: They sacrifice to pick to get DeShawn Watson trade back.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad that was not me and the
Speaker 1: fourth overall pick for Watson. I think that people would
Speaker 1: take that thing is is that pick. This pick looks
Speaker 1: like it was going to be in the twenties and
Speaker 1: then Watson toward the aco and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it plummeted plummeted down. You're right about that, but I
Speaker 1: think they got a fine young quarterback. The Cowboys play
Speaker 1: the Texans next year too, play him the preseason, and
Speaker 1: play him during the regular season as well. So we're waiting.
Speaker 1: The pick is in from the Browns again. This is
Speaker 1: the first round pick, four overall. Dane Burglar thinks that
Speaker 1: it is going to be Bradley Chubb, the very talented
Speaker 1: defensive end from North Carolina State. And as we look
Speaker 1: at the setting, the commissioner is making his way to
Speaker 1: the podium. Let's go there. Okay, I did talk about
Speaker 1: this this week on Cleveland Radio. Do not count out
Speaker 1: Denzel Award. He might be the best cornerback on the
Speaker 1: Browns roster right now. That's how dire the situation is
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position. So hey, I don't mind this
Speaker 1: pick at Denzel Awards an outstanding player. He's number five
Speaker 1: on my board, so I'm not against it. If we
Speaker 1: talked about ranking the positions on if we talk just
Speaker 1: to talk about importance, quarterback one pass, rusher, two corners three.
Speaker 1: So they didn't go number two most important position. They
Speaker 1: went with number three, And I think Emmanuel Agba is
Speaker 1: taking a style of relief. Maybe, yeah, a good point.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, this is a team that
Speaker 1: this is a team though that did sign four cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah during during a who though, I mean Roscoe Fillers.
Speaker 1: Take a look at Dan's face right there. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: looks like Carrie Games. Yeah, I understand, which Terrence Mitchell,
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. I mean, he Denzel Wards
Speaker 1: number five on my board. So this is not a
Speaker 1: reach by any means. I think it. You don't like
Speaker 1: Brian body Calhoun. He's probably their best corner right now.
Speaker 1: My only Denzel Warden shows up. Brian body Calhoun. I
Speaker 1: remember from his draft he went to Minnesota, and I
Speaker 1: remember Ezekiel Elliott dragged him all over the field in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Run defense is not his strength. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a solid nickel guy. But uh, no, I like this pick.
Speaker 1: I okay, it's harsh for me to say I don't
Speaker 1: like it. I mean, if you're gonna get the best
Speaker 1: cornerback in the draft, you're probably not gonna go wrong.
Speaker 1: But I think he would have won five if he
Speaker 1: didn't go here. For it sounded fun af to have
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett on the right side and Bradley Chubb on
Speaker 1: the left, and then you can do whatever you want
Speaker 1: with Emmanuel Oba. I'll tell you what. That was a
Speaker 1: little bit of a surprise for me. I thought you,
Speaker 1: I thought you were going down the right avenue. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised too. I mean, I thought Chubb was gonna
Speaker 1: be the pick. But no. It's funny because I did
Speaker 1: a lot of Cleveland radio this week and we talked
Speaker 1: about other possibilities in Denzel. If it wasn't Chubb and
Speaker 1: it wasn't a trade down, then it was gonna be
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward. Because again the cornerback situation of the depth
Speaker 1: chart in Cleveland, it kind of makes you makes you
Speaker 1: a little ill when you look at it. So Denzel Ward,
Speaker 1: like I said, at some point early in this this season,
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward will be the best cornerback, maybe already on
Speaker 1: the on the bronze roster. I'm just I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: totally just play second guess jerk. Nobody likes that. Sorry,
Speaker 1: you could do that? Yeah, just thinking, Hey, Mike Us
Speaker 1: and Mike Cues and Josh Jackson might be there for
Speaker 1: you at thirty three if you need a cornerback. I just, man,
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to the thought of just turning
Speaker 1: away from the best pass rusher in the draft is
Speaker 1: rough for me. I don't know. Could could Could we
Speaker 1: see now the Colts who all along we thought maybe
Speaker 1: that they would take Bradley Chubb get him at six?
Speaker 1: I bet there. I mean, I mean you think that.
Speaker 1: I mean they talked about maybe diving out of there,
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, they're looking at They're
Speaker 1: looking at They're looking at Chubb without I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you're fine with Chubb or Nelson, you know, I
Speaker 1: think you're you're I think there's okay, I think sitting
Speaker 1: there at six and saying we'll take either one of
Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, but if you're Denver, are you looking
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks here? Yeah? No, I was just trying
Speaker 1: to say. I was trying to say, because the Colts
Speaker 1: we had, we had talked about the Colts when they
Speaker 1: were three, all you chub, Chub chub, that was a
Speaker 1: name that was always yeah. And now they back up
Speaker 1: and they get him at six, and they could get
Speaker 1: him at six. So yeah, I wonder, you know, Denver,
Speaker 1: I can't see the clock right now, but they're kind
Speaker 1: of running out of time. But yeah, does somebody want
Speaker 1: a pass rusher bad enough that they would trade into
Speaker 1: that spot, because I mean we've heard forever that Denver's
Speaker 1: definitely willing to sell that pick. Yeah, and I don't
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know the answer. Yeah, Well, Denver
Speaker 1: was trying to it sound like that Denver was trying
Speaker 1: to get to the Giants at two, and obviously we're
Speaker 1: unsuccessful doing that. So let's see if, in fact, if
Speaker 1: we look at the Broncos team, need we talk about
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, We talk about linebacker, and we talk about
Speaker 1: running back, but you know, again, we kind of feel
Speaker 1: like that it's going to be the quarterback. Which quarterback?
Speaker 1: Do you think that John Elway, now you know, covets
Speaker 1: for his uh for his team. If if, in fact,
Speaker 1: did they make that pick and they liked they like Baker,
Speaker 1: liked Baker, he's a brown now, um, and that's I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I guess, I mean, Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and Josh Rosen are obviously there, But do they like
Speaker 1: one of those guys enough to spend this pick. That's
Speaker 1: what makes me wonder if they'd be willing to trade
Speaker 1: out of this spot, if somebody was willing to do it.
Speaker 1: I just read the Bills aren't willing to give up
Speaker 1: as much as it would cost to get sure. So
Speaker 1: the Bills might be sitting there thinking, well, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: our guys gonna get to us. Maybe they don't have
Speaker 1: to move at twelve. Maybe they liked one of these
Speaker 1: guys a little bit more, and let's see, you know
Speaker 1: what's going on there with because they might just be
Speaker 1: sitting there and saying, all right, we'll take it. Looks
Speaker 1: like the picks in for Denver. Yeah, they had they
Speaker 1: had a like they had two or three minutes still
Speaker 1: left on the clock. So obviously we surprise no trades yet. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean why was gonna we were all like predicting
Speaker 1: in our draft shows in like this chaotic situation you know,
Speaker 1: with people uh, you know, moving up and down the
Speaker 1: board here. But as it played out that way, these
Speaker 1: teams are just making their pick and we got a
Speaker 1: long way to go. So here we go. It's the
Speaker 1: Broncos again. Their pick is in. We're just ware. Do
Speaker 1: you want to take a Do you want to take
Speaker 1: a guess which one of those quarterbacks they liked? Dane?
Speaker 1: Do you want to see which one? Dude? Do you
Speaker 1: have a quarterback? Are you convinced it's a quarterback? No? Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I think I think John Oeys quarterback burned out? Do
Speaker 1: you think so? Yeah? I think I think Paxson Lynch
Speaker 1: still haunts him. And so he went with a more
Speaker 1: safe approach with case Keenum. Okay, So he's gonna take
Speaker 1: a positional pay. Think they wanted Denzel Ward, okay, and
Speaker 1: so I think he's a little surprised Denzel Wards not there.
Speaker 1: And so what's option B. They have a need a guard.
Speaker 1: They do have a need a guard. I think quittin
Speaker 1: Nelson to be a home run pick here, safest player
Speaker 1: in the draft after Yeah, the best player in the draft. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They they've they've they're right built here, they're they traded
Speaker 1: for their uh let me say, traded for a right
Speaker 1: tackle and they haven't really done anything left since then.
Speaker 1: But okay, let's go. The pick is in for the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. Okay, there you go, Bradley Chubby Tom pass
Speaker 1: rusher on the draft. Yeah. And if you kind of
Speaker 1: you know you you look at the some of the
Speaker 1: needs for the Broncos we talked about that they look for.
Speaker 1: It seemed like more than the uh, interior defensive lineman,
Speaker 1: where some of the thoughts that it was not so
Speaker 1: much on the on the on the edge, but the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos they they've added. The Broncos said, if you
Speaker 1: don't want to have the nastiest pass rushing exact one,
Speaker 1: we'll do it for you. I think that's something that's
Speaker 1: really I think that they said, you know what, this
Speaker 1: guy is way way, way too too good to pass on.
Speaker 1: So is that is that kind of a bp A
Speaker 1: thing right there? I mean assuming depending on how I think.
Speaker 1: Day made a great point about being U the quarterback
Speaker 1: being a little you know, a little shy there right now.
Speaker 1: They're burnout. They're burnout on that. The Paxton Lynch, I
Speaker 1: mean the osweiler Um. You know that they've they went
Speaker 1: to safe route and threw a lot of money at
Speaker 1: case Keenum and they're okay riding with him. And we
Speaker 1: heard Chris Harris, the cornerback say publicly, hey man, anybody
Speaker 1: but a quarterback. You know, we're ready to win right now.
Speaker 1: Give us someone who's gonna help. This guy Rabley Chubb's
Speaker 1: gonna help. So the Denver Broncos, Funny, what did you
Speaker 1: have ranked on your board? Day three? Three? There you go?
Speaker 1: That's I mean, I like that. Pick a lot for them,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean we case Keenum can get you
Speaker 1: to the conference championship game. Beef that defense up a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, we saw that all the two last year. Y.
Speaker 1: I tell you what, Broncos finally have a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, they still have von Miller. Yeah that's pretty
Speaker 1: good right there. Not about duo. So yeah, the Broncho
Speaker 1: select Bradley Chubb from North Carolina State. Well, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you he is fun to watch on tape that he
Speaker 1: gets thrilled load to the ground. He looks like von
Speaker 1: Miller coming around the corner that way been compared a
Speaker 1: little bit to von Miller. Hasn't a little bit of
Speaker 1: a pen throw if you're Chris Ballard. Yeah. See, now
Speaker 1: we were talking about maybe that they would get Chubb
Speaker 1: and at the Colts, and the Colts are now on
Speaker 1: the clock. There were at the sixth pick so far
Speaker 1: just recapping Baker Mayfield to the Cleveland Browns, say Kwon
Speaker 1: Barkley to the Giants, and then you have Sam Darnold,
Speaker 1: the quarterback from usc goes to the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward, the very talented cornerback from Ohio State, is
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and the Denver Broncos have just selected Bradley Chubb,
Speaker 1: the defensive end from North Carolina State. So we will see.
Speaker 1: It looks like to me that the pick is in
Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Colts. This this is gonna be an
Speaker 1: interesting pick because the Colts have so many areas. That's
Speaker 1: a bad roster, and that is a that is a
Speaker 1: bad roster. It's a roster that we saw in the
Speaker 1: preseason and I'll tell you what it was. It was
Speaker 1: not very good and the ballard will have his hands full,
Speaker 1: but he knows how to pick. He likes to draft,
Speaker 1: and so he will find a way to uh to
Speaker 1: do some things to try and improve his team defensive end.
Speaker 1: We talked about that they just lost Chubb. You know,
Speaker 1: linebacker is a situation. Is this is this too early
Speaker 1: for Smith? I'm taking see I want, I want Quentin Nelson.
Speaker 1: See no, but you're you're yeah, you figured it out, okay,
Speaker 1: that the best player in the draft is here at six.
Speaker 1: You have your team sucks, and you have a quarterback
Speaker 1: with a gimpie shoulder. I will say I think he
Speaker 1: will be surprised if it's not Quenton Nelson a Roquan Smith.
Speaker 1: I think it should be one of those two, but
Speaker 1: more so Quentin Nelson and I love Roquan Smith. But man,
Speaker 1: that's tough because I again, I think Roquan Smith is
Speaker 1: a perfect fit for what they want to do on defense.
Speaker 1: But you're talking about Andrew Luck who hasn't played in
Speaker 1: a while because of injury. Yeah, that offensive line was
Speaker 1: so bad, huh. I mean Jakoby were said he had
Speaker 1: no chance. You watch those games, I mean he is
Speaker 1: getting hit. If you're order back some help. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think clearly this this to me if they don't, if
Speaker 1: they don't take Nelson here and I and I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with Smith. I have no problem with Smith. Smith,
Speaker 1: but man that it just seems obvious to me. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Here comes the commissioner. He's heading for the podium.
Speaker 1: The Colts about to make their pick. It's the sixth overall.
Speaker 1: Here you go to a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: teams not overthinking it right now. And I like that, right,
Speaker 1: just do what makes sense. The Colts just got the
Speaker 1: best player in the draft. Yeah, I thought so too.
Speaker 1: I thought so too. And you know, as much as
Speaker 1: I as much as I love Roquan Smith, I think
Speaker 1: this is a heck of a pick. And he was
Speaker 1: my he was my top radio player on my top
Speaker 1: of the top fifty. I think he's will immediately come in.
Speaker 1: He he could have a very similar career to what
Speaker 1: we've seen with Sack Martin, that type of guy. One
Speaker 1: of my oldest and dearest friends is a die hard
Speaker 1: Colts fan, and he was texting me this morning just saying, like,
Speaker 1: if if they have a chance to draft Quintin Nelson
Speaker 1: and they don't do it. I'm gonna lose my damn mind.
Speaker 1: So way to go, Ryan, and I just don't don't
Speaker 1: overthink it, don't overthink it. Just just draft the draft.
Speaker 1: You have the need, The best player in the draft
Speaker 1: is there at six, and just just pull the trigger.
Speaker 1: It's easy. Chris Ballard, you know last year one of
Speaker 1: the best players that draft fell to him, Mallie Cookery
Speaker 1: happens again this year. Hopefully better injury luck um with Nelson,
Speaker 1: But Colts are a better team, there's no question. And
Speaker 1: if you're Andrew Luck, you're fist pumping because you just
Speaker 1: got a guy that's can help protect you. That's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: What I want to know is, look who's on the
Speaker 1: clock right now. The Buccaneers dwin. This is a big one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if it's not durrwin, can we start thinking about
Speaker 1: the unthinkable? Well, okay, just to give you a little
Speaker 1: heads up, what's going on. Okay, the curtain is down
Speaker 1: on the camera. Point, the curtain is down on the
Speaker 1: camera and it's been down now for a while. And
Speaker 1: we just have a trade. And so you think, well,
Speaker 1: we do have a trade. We do have a trade.
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills are just traded up, hey, number seven,
Speaker 1: So the Buffalo Bills have now chair going up to
Speaker 1: their quarterback. Yeah, okay, there, Derwin James survives another pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Dane Bruglo unless unless the Bills are going up
Speaker 1: for Derwin James, we don't. I'm assuming it's a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Shout up, you know, as it will be a quarterback. Okay,
Speaker 1: it still shows that the Buccaneers are on the clock
Speaker 1: at at at five fifteen left in the pick or
Speaker 1: left at the time on the clock. Let's see if
Speaker 1: in fact, again, Dan, you feel like that the Buffo,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills have now found a way to get
Speaker 1: here to the seventh spot. You're moving up from twelve
Speaker 1: to seven. Um, that's a lot easier to fathom than
Speaker 1: the package that would have taken to move up from
Speaker 1: twelve to four or two. So you move up to seven. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a three hundred point. That's a three hundred point
Speaker 1: difference right there on the trade chart. And so you're
Speaker 1: is at their third what's sixty five or sixty five
Speaker 1: is worth two sixty five? Maybe he took sixty five
Speaker 1: and maybe a throw in later in the draft to
Speaker 1: get done. Absolutely, And so if I'm I'm who's there,
Speaker 1: guys that Josh Allen is a Josh Rosen, is Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 1: Who who's their guy that I know? Who? I mean?
Speaker 1: I know I would take Rosen, That's who I would take.
Speaker 1: You're Josh Allen. You talk about the outdoor, the cold, Well, no,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, But I'm talking about my highest
Speaker 1: rated quarterback. Sure, I'm talking about my highest rated guy.
Speaker 1: So if it's me on my board and they take
Speaker 1: and they take Josh Rose, I keep saying that he's
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan to me, Yeah, he is Matt Ryan to me.
Speaker 1: And they they traded up to get in front of
Speaker 1: Miami and eleven Ryan to get in front of maybe
Speaker 1: in Arizona or Baltimore Chargers, one of these other teams
Speaker 1: looking at trade up for the quarterback. So if he's
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, signed me up. Yeah, Okay, So we again
Speaker 1: we think this is that we think that this yes,
Speaker 1: but Buffalo has now been put on the clock. We're
Speaker 1: all thinking that it is a quarterback. We talked about
Speaker 1: it was potentially pick sixty five, right, Dane three hundred
Speaker 1: points difference on the on the trade chart to go
Speaker 1: from uh to go from twelve to seven and pick
Speaker 1: sixty five is what the Bill's got from the Browns
Speaker 1: and the Tyrod Taylor deal exactly right. So that pick
Speaker 1: is worth two hundred and sixty five points. So we
Speaker 1: will see what happens here. They're showing now that that
Speaker 1: they're showing Josh Rosen right now, he looks very concerned
Speaker 1: about the situation and gets cold there. Yeah, he's thinking,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. But maybe maybe maybe this is one
Speaker 1: of those things. Maybe my cold weather quarterback three comes
Speaker 1: into play here. But we will see. I'm honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: just looking, Okay, it's your trades official, Chicago, San fran Oakland, Miami,
Speaker 1: before you get to Tampa Bay. I'm looking at teams
Speaker 1: that might want a safety in that range. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to push my guy down the board. You're trying to
Speaker 1: get You're trying to get somebody too. I'm trying. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to get them to me. I'm trying back
Speaker 1: to Tampa. Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying, that Tampa
Speaker 1: has put themselves in a position it's a time to
Speaker 1: call the Dolphins. I think I'm on the phone with
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. If you're interesting in road, Quand Smith then
Speaker 1: once again, guys, Well the ladies out there thinking Derwin James.
Speaker 1: But that's a good point. Roquan Smith is still there too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I'd be surprised Roke one doesn't go wait at
Speaker 1: Chicago the next pick. Okay, well we'll see. I mean
Speaker 1: if if these guys all of a a sudden, but you're right,
Speaker 1: Derwin James, If Derwin Jamie, if you can find a
Speaker 1: way to get to Miami, you know that that would
Speaker 1: maybe assured. And the curtain has been down on the
Speaker 1: war room camp for quite a bit, so you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they're talking about some situations right here for a
Speaker 1: potential trade. So again, Buffalo Bills on the clock, the
Speaker 1: picks in and uh at So we will see. If
Speaker 1: you look at the Buffalo Bills and we've talked about
Speaker 1: some of their team needs, Dane is uh been very
Speaker 1: adamant they've traded up for to try and grab a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I keep going back to what you've been saying about
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Cleveland. Yeah, what you kept harping on
Speaker 1: was the outdoors elements. You can you can actually scout
Speaker 1: tape of Josh Allen playing in snow. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: going to appeal Litt Buffalo, Buffalo, November. I watched the
Speaker 1: game against the cold last year where it was you
Speaker 1: couldn't even see the field it was snow and so hot. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: so who I mean, Jacobe bursts from North Carolina. I
Speaker 1: hate that. That's so dumb, so I keep going back
Speaker 1: to it, Buffalo. I mean, obviously that's not the uh
Speaker 1: A little bit. Yeah, Well, at this point in the
Speaker 1: draft with the seventh overall pick, sure, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I would take Josh Allen, but I think that that
Speaker 1: might be what Buffalo is thinking. You know, you're taking
Speaker 1: the big, sturdy guy, that Ben Roethlisberger type of mold
Speaker 1: in terms of the jam Kellys, Yeah you guys, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that can withstand the frigid air and the cold. Exactly.
Speaker 1: It's cold up there too. All right, Commission's walking to
Speaker 1: the podium. Let's see you the Buffalo Bills take seventh
Speaker 1: pick overall. There you go. They went up and got
Speaker 1: their gun, eager to see what they gave up. It was.
Speaker 1: We were just kind of speculating sixty five and maybe
Speaker 1: something else if they had to do something a little
Speaker 1: a little more than that, but not a surprising pick here.
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like they're parting with twenty two though, No,
Speaker 1: no way, not to give a five spots maybe one
Speaker 1: of the seconds they have. But man, if you're a Buffalo,
Speaker 1: you're cautiously optimistic here, you know, I mean Josh Allen
Speaker 1: more surprising him going where he did or where where
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield went. I'm just saying that first overall, right,
Speaker 1: that's Baker, Yeah, I don't. I mean, we we knew
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was going top ten somewhere, so for him
Speaker 1: to be at seven is not shocking at me. That's
Speaker 1: that's fair Baker. I was thinking anywhere from three to eleven.
Speaker 1: So wow, this is crazy my rankings for on my
Speaker 1: board Mayfield, I mean, it's gone flip, you know, as
Speaker 1: far as it's Mayfield went first, Darnold second, and now
Speaker 1: Allan and I have him. But this inverted in the
Speaker 1: inverted way. This is so much fun though, because again
Speaker 1: this is affecting everything from here on out. So now
Speaker 1: you know, Chicago, do they take a look at Roquan Smith.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, Derwin James was so cond like he
Speaker 1: was so he was mocked to Tampa so often. Now
Speaker 1: they have a shot at him if they want him,
Speaker 1: and then that and now Josh Rosen, you would guess
Speaker 1: probably is available for Miami. Yeah. Yeah, it might be
Speaker 1: a great fit for him too. It might be an
Speaker 1: absolutely great fit for him. All right, day, tell me
Speaker 1: why again, Josh Shellen. Why does he have a chance
Speaker 1: in Buffalo? Well, it's it all centers on the physical
Speaker 1: traits he can his arm talent is rare. You don't
Speaker 1: just find guys like that. And I think you're optimistic
Speaker 1: because of the person you're getting the character. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a football, he's all in. You worry about the accuracy,
Speaker 1: you worry about the decision making. He needs to develop
Speaker 1: in those areas, there's no question. But with better coaching
Speaker 1: and time to develop. Because with Aji McCarron there, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna be pressing in the action from day one.
Speaker 1: Asia McCarron can cradle that job for the next however
Speaker 1: long it takes until Josh Allen's ready, because it's very
Speaker 1: important for a player like this not to be thrust
Speaker 1: in the action. Sam Darnold, if he needs to play
Speaker 1: right away, he could do that. Should feel okay. Josh
Speaker 1: Allen not quite the same. He needs to be brought
Speaker 1: along at his own pace, and when he's ready, that's
Speaker 1: when you put him in. Not going to force it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just to recap again the last three picks. The
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos have selected Bradley Chubb, the defensive end from
Speaker 1: North Carolina State, that was at the fifth overall pick.
Speaker 1: The Colts at the sixth they've just taken Quentin Nelson,
Speaker 1: the guard from Notre Dame. We all love that pick.
Speaker 1: And now we understand what the Buffalo Bills. They make
Speaker 1: a small trade up, they go up five spots to
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Will see what in fact that
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers pick up in that trade. We kind of
Speaker 1: feel like that part of the trade will be that
Speaker 1: third round pick to start the third round. It will
Speaker 1: be pick of excuse me, to be pick sixty five,
Speaker 1: so that'll be three sixty five. We think that will
Speaker 1: be part of the trade that that the Bills made.
Speaker 1: Do you like what the Bills did there? Do you
Speaker 1: like what I mean seeing the quarterback and you're just
Speaker 1: not a fan of the player at all? Are Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of the player. I'm certainly not
Speaker 1: a fan of trading up for the player. Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean which eight I mean what I mean it's the
Speaker 1: Bills pick to use. Well, I mean no, I just
Speaker 1: I mean I just sit Yeah, I get that. I mean,
Speaker 1: quarterback is everything in this league. So right, you gotta
Speaker 1: take your chances. I'm gonna be fascinated to watch and
Speaker 1: see how it plays out, because again, everything I said
Speaker 1: about him not needing to get on the field. You know,
Speaker 1: the Josh Allen we saw, Well here here they get
Speaker 1: the two tell me the two second round picks. Seconds. Okay,
Speaker 1: what fifty three and fifty six? Okay, fifty three and
Speaker 1: fifty six. So there you go. That's a that now belongs.
Speaker 1: Fifty three belongs to Tampa Bay, and then fifty six.
Speaker 1: So let's kind of look at that evaluate that trade
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's a total of seven hundred and
Speaker 1: ten points right there on that trade if you add
Speaker 1: those two together. If I think, if my math is correct,
Speaker 1: three seventy three forty is that seven ten? Real quick?
Speaker 1: I know, I'm so that's a that's a that's a
Speaker 1: had to overpay for to get the quarterback. They had
Speaker 1: to overpay to get the quarterback, which most trades are
Speaker 1: to get when you get it trying to trade it
Speaker 1: for a quarterback, you have to overpay. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you. I just do not know how you. You
Speaker 1: know the you look at that situation and which quarterback
Speaker 1: do you feel better about, Josh Allen or EJ Manuel?
Speaker 1: Just Josh Allen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. EJ Manuel is like
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. He should have been Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: There's a point in the first round where I would
Speaker 1: take a chance in Josh Allen at this early, but
Speaker 1: there was a point. Yeah. I hate the thought of
Speaker 1: taking a chance on a guy that you're trading up
Speaker 1: into the top ten to get. Yeah, oh, I agree.
Speaker 1: I would not have done this move. If I'm Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: sitting there at twenty seven or whatever, I would have
Speaker 1: made rolled the dice on Josh Allen. There we go.
Speaker 1: But I'm not you know, I don't think he's EJ
Speaker 1: Manuel is terrible. Yeah, yeah. It says a lot when
Speaker 1: Dane is willing to speak so author like, so draft
Speaker 1: is so bad? It really well they went back and
Speaker 1: looked at it the other day. Do you think that?
Speaker 1: Do you think Buffalo feels like they got out cheap
Speaker 1: on this one to make the court to make the
Speaker 1: trade I mean, I mean, if you mean we've kind
Speaker 1: of talked about them trying to get up in you know,
Speaker 1: for them, we say it's an overpay. I mean all
Speaker 1: they had to really make up was look at they
Speaker 1: actually kicked in the extras two is what they do
Speaker 1: to get this thing done. Look at Buffalo. Who's their
Speaker 1: brain trust? Uh? I mean their general manager? Uh? I
Speaker 1: mean Sean McDermott, head coach, Sure, Brandon Bean GM. They
Speaker 1: came up through Carolina. You gotta pick, and we gotta
Speaker 1: pick a pick in Chicago. Here we go. Then you
Speaker 1: an outside linebacker in Chicago. Get ready, there you go.
Speaker 1: It's a great pick. Okay. Roquan Smith one of our
Speaker 1: favorite players here on the Draft Show. Honestly, if he
Speaker 1: can't be a cowboy, which was never possible, I love
Speaker 1: I just love the thought of this badass playing at
Speaker 1: Soldier Field wearing those awesome uniforms with the you know,
Speaker 1: gash on the sleeve. Yeah, you got snow flying like
Speaker 1: the turf is on your arms because you're just hitting
Speaker 1: the ground every play. Like, I just that's awesome. I
Speaker 1: love this pick. I love that play. If you're if
Speaker 1: you're the Bears, you have to feel good about this. Um,
Speaker 1: I think you felt good. Quittin Nelson, Denzel Ward one
Speaker 1: of those guys we're gonna fall to you. And here
Speaker 1: it was Roquan Smith, who one of the best players
Speaker 1: in this draft. Yeah, and we all love. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that never comes off the field.
Speaker 1: I mean he I mean he is going to play
Speaker 1: every single snap, run, hit, get to the ball, cover,
Speaker 1: He's going to be a leader. You're Chicago, this is
Speaker 1: a this is a good start for them. I mean
Speaker 1: they last year. You look at Mike Mike Singletary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they drafted last year with Mitchell Trubisky. And then you
Speaker 1: know Adam chan the tight end. It was there, Eddie Jackson,
Speaker 1: you know, Tarik Cohen, I mean it was you know,
Speaker 1: Cohen was a really good pick. But anyway, so Roquan Smith,
Speaker 1: the linebacker, very talented linebacker from Georgia, is now with
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. Okay, that puts the San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine ers on the clock. They've got about five minutes
Speaker 1: and forty seconds to deal with with that. We've kind
Speaker 1: of thought along the second linebacker might be the guy
Speaker 1: that goes here, right. Yeah, when we talk about Edmonds,
Speaker 1: another player they brought in that they like quite a bit,
Speaker 1: as Minka Fitzpatrick. There you go. Um it's and this
Speaker 1: is not a knock on him, but like I just
Speaker 1: forget about him, and it's like he's like the forgotten guy,
Speaker 1: Like he's a stud. Yeah, he has a stud number
Speaker 1: two on my board, and I know I'm hiring him
Speaker 1: the most. But I think you're looking at Edmunds or
Speaker 1: if Fitzpatrick here. That makes a lot of sense. I
Speaker 1: think one other. I think you have to include pass
Speaker 1: rusher here. Yea, they want a pass rusher back. I
Speaker 1: agree with you on that might come down to who
Speaker 1: they like better, Marcus Davenport or Harold Nandry. Oh. Nine
Speaker 1: feels high for Marcus Davenport. That's literally I was about
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, but who who fits? Like who could
Speaker 1: you draft? I'm the edge right now. Davenports number eleven
Speaker 1: on my board, so it got him in that range. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not a huge jump for me, but I get
Speaker 1: people who have the reservations. Fifteen feels much more comfortable
Speaker 1: for Davenport for me, but hey, I don't know. Oh,
Speaker 1: Dane's right though. They did visit Mika Fitzpatrick. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they like him, I know they do. Yeah, for a fact,
Speaker 1: they like MIKEA. Fitzpatrick enough to take him here. I
Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see, but uh, it's definitely a name
Speaker 1: that is being discussed. So yes, the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: are on the clock again. As we said, we are
Speaker 1: waiting that this is the ninth overall selection the draft.
Speaker 1: Over on the over on the Twitter sphere, um Ian
Speaker 1: Rappaport is saying the Bucks might be trying to come
Speaker 1: back up because we got to we linked him to
Speaker 1: Derwin so much like they're willing to trade away from him,
Speaker 1: but not too far. Well, they they got they got
Speaker 1: an overpay on the on the pick, they got really
Speaker 1: basically an extra second round pick. Yeah, sure is what
Speaker 1: they did. So you know, I mean that that's uh,
Speaker 1: that is good that they go use that they use
Speaker 1: that one back up. Yeah, that's that one kind of
Speaker 1: snuck under the radar for me right there. I was
Speaker 1: looking more in the third to try and get the
Speaker 1: three hundred point difference. But that they they you to
Speaker 1: make that move. They got the second that the second
Speaker 1: of the second round picks for the Buffalo to kick
Speaker 1: those in, so you know, good for them to make
Speaker 1: that that trade. But we've talked about this, so you
Speaker 1: don't think you don't think it's going to be Edmunds.
Speaker 1: You don't think that. I mean, I think he's in
Speaker 1: the mix. I mean Edmund's pass Rusher. It seems like this,
Speaker 1: it seemed like this is the one that every every
Speaker 1: mock draft, it was always Edmunds here. It was always him,
Speaker 1: always him. People connect the dots with Ruben Foster and yeah,
Speaker 1: who he might never play in the NFL again, who knows,
Speaker 1: and even if he does come back, might not be
Speaker 1: for San Francisco. So it makes sense why you know
Speaker 1: we're linking Edmund's there, But um, you can't rule out
Speaker 1: Minka and we can't rule out pass Rusher. I think, Okay,
Speaker 1: where do you play Minka? Where do we figure that out?
Speaker 1: Is he can still be the slot corner type guy
Speaker 1: for this team. He's probably playing nickel. You have Richard
Speaker 1: Sherman and kell Of Witherspoon on the outside exactly, you
Speaker 1: insert Minka and the nickel. I think you feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about that. Yeah, I mean that that's a lot
Speaker 1: of height and length at your corner back position. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they've and then they've also they're they're going to
Speaker 1: try Ward at corner to help, but you know, that
Speaker 1: makes an issue at safety for them as well, So
Speaker 1: it's not really clear. Again, I would like to think that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know that we have a plan for this, but
Speaker 1: here we go San Francisco. Is their selection is in ah,
Speaker 1: hey at our first big time surprise in the night
Speaker 1: while Baker obviously, but uh, I don't I heard Oakland
Speaker 1: so much? Well that means Trent Brown's gone. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: he's been rumored to be a trade guy there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going to trade him then if they're drafting Mike
Speaker 1: McGlinchey and Staley is thirty three years old too, so yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is this you gotta protect Jimmy g right,
Speaker 1: absolutely have to. So yeah, this was kind of one
Speaker 1: of those sneaky needs that they had. But here goes
Speaker 1: the best offensive tackle, Mike McGlinchey off the board to
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers. And again Dane Bruger
Speaker 1: was all over this when they talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: with Brown again being a rumored a trade guy and
Speaker 1: then with Stanley being thirty three years old, they need
Speaker 1: to add a little bit more a better quality of player.
Speaker 1: A little bit more depth there. And Mike McGlinchey surely
Speaker 1: is that Dane talk about him a little bit and
Speaker 1: what she liked about him at a Notre Dame. Well,
Speaker 1: he's got experienced on the right side and the left side.
Speaker 1: Played right side when Ronnie Stanley was there. Ronnie Stanley
Speaker 1: got drafted in the first round at top ten to
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens two years ago, moves over to the
Speaker 1: left side, and that Notre Dame pipeline at left tackle continues.
Speaker 1: Zach Martin Ronnie Stanley. People argue about like position you
Speaker 1: Notre Dame with the O line. It's pretty sick, man,
Speaker 1: It is ridiculous. And so here we are, Mike McGlinchey
Speaker 1: going to the forty nine ers, and I guess this
Speaker 1: means Trent Browns right days are numbered, I would I
Speaker 1: would guess I mean Mike mcglinchi. I think could play
Speaker 1: guard until he's needed at tackle. That's possible, but I
Speaker 1: think it's more likely we see a trade here with
Speaker 1: Trent and Brown at some point over this weekend, traded
Speaker 1: for draft picks. You know what's funny is and we
Speaker 1: were all there to watch that stupid coin toss at
Speaker 1: the combine, that's right, And I mean and the Raiders
Speaker 1: have been linked to Mike McGlinchey for at least a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So to think that a coin toss decides,
Speaker 1: you know, whether this guy in which side of the
Speaker 1: bay he ends up on is kind of funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a good point, um, because he
Speaker 1: had Donald Penn's thirty five years old left tackle in Oakland.
Speaker 1: So Mike Glinchi was definitely in play. So now with
Speaker 1: the Raiders at ten, I mean Fitzpatrick's available. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: we have anyone trying to trade up to get in
Speaker 1: front of Miami to get the quarterback? Well, I'm looking
Speaker 1: right now here's the trade. There you go Rosen or
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson? Could could Lamar Jackson go ahead of Rosen?
Speaker 1: That would be surprising, you think? So that would be
Speaker 1: surprised If five minutes I told you, Mike mcglinch, you
Speaker 1: is definitely going nine, right, you would hear the same thing.
Speaker 1: You're right, Well, okay, let's let's out there. Let's weigh this.
Speaker 1: Then let's what's way? Which way you think that they
Speaker 1: would go? I mean it's you know, you Steve Kime.
Speaker 1: You know, he's been a longtime general manager out there.
Speaker 1: You think he goes for the dynamic guy or does
Speaker 1: he go for the guy that that's just pretty steady.
Speaker 1: And I know, I know he's not the coach there anymore.
Speaker 1: But Bruce arians gave. Oh he loves, yeah, he loves.
Speaker 1: He loved Lamar Jackson. He really really did. I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at the quarterbacks on that roster, uh with
Speaker 1: Sam Brideford, Mike Lennon, Josh Rosen would fit that, you know,
Speaker 1: that type of quarterback. But Lamar Jackson, he's the complete
Speaker 1: wild card in this in this draft, no one knows,
Speaker 1: you know, where he's gonna go. A lot of teams
Speaker 1: like him. Do they like him enough to actually turn
Speaker 1: that card in? We're gonna find out here. So what
Speaker 1: kind of quarterback you think the Cardinals need to play
Speaker 1: in the NFC West? A good one? I mean, no, no,
Speaker 1: I know, but but think of think of the type
Speaker 1: would you know? Again, I'm trying to I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get a game quarterback. They've had the quarterbacks they've had
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, Christ and Palmer. Yeah, I mean, they've had
Speaker 1: the traditional pocket passer. Right, they got a legitimate running
Speaker 1: game there too with that with that bat, and I say,
Speaker 1: imagine putting Lamar Jackson back there with David Johnson kid.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was thinking. Yeah, do they want
Speaker 1: to go in the same direction though and get a
Speaker 1: pocket passer or they are they ready to switch it up?
Speaker 1: You know? And that that's going to be the questionnaire.
Speaker 1: If ARIANS was there, I would say, that's the type
Speaker 1: of coach I want to give Lamar Jackson too, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But and I don't know, Steve
Speaker 1: Wilkes is he's a defensive guy. Yes, yes, yeah, Carolina, right,
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know. Maybe they go with
Speaker 1: the safer pick. Well safer in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: you know more what you're getting and how he's going
Speaker 1: to adjust. I think they got to their GM will
Speaker 1: make some move. I mean he obviously did here. He
Speaker 1: went up you know, a few spots to uh to
Speaker 1: grab a we think it's going to be a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I just I have a hard time believing this is
Speaker 1: Lamar because as I think you more content to let
Speaker 1: him kind of fall to you, you know, which I
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I feel like if you're making
Speaker 1: this move, it's because you don't trust Josh Rosen to
Speaker 1: get past We missed something here? Could they be looking
Speaker 1: at a corner? Could could this be I mean other
Speaker 1: than Patrick Peterson, they really don't have anything at the
Speaker 1: two and the three. No, you can get a corner later.
Speaker 1: You're trading up for the quarter. I have a hard
Speaker 1: time believe in you're doing this move knowing what they
Speaker 1: need right and again knowing that Miami is a team
Speaker 1: that likes Josh Rosen. It's hard for me to imagine
Speaker 1: that they're doing this for anything but a quarterback. And
Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to guess, I would say,
Speaker 1: I think this is Rosen. I would agree. I think
Speaker 1: I think that he is the favorite to go here.
Speaker 1: And it makes sense again, Kurt Warner, Carson Palmer, Josh Rosen.
Speaker 1: I mean it's for the Cardinals. I mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 1: They have arguably the worst quarterback situation in the NFL
Speaker 1: thirty two out of thirty two, they might have the worst.
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen would certainly change that, and it'd be a
Speaker 1: fun quarterback competition in training camp. See those three quarterbacks
Speaker 1: duke it out. Josh Rosen as a as a chance
Speaker 1: to be the guy there well, it seems like to
Speaker 1: me that that, you know, and I like what you're saying,
Speaker 1: Dave about Bruce Arians. I think Bruce Arians is still
Speaker 1: like he's not there anymore. That no, I know, But
Speaker 1: I like what you're saying about maybe that, Hey man,
Speaker 1: you gotta take this guy, don't you. I mean, don't
Speaker 1: you kind of you know he's he's talking about. Here
Speaker 1: we go, Okay, so it's saiders get a third out
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, so we get a third and the
Speaker 1: fifth right, third and the fifth on that one on
Speaker 1: the So what are the number one? What's the number
Speaker 1: right there? Three and O five seventy nine And I
Speaker 1: want to say it was one fifty two. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't see around the camera here. But
Speaker 1: so the Raiders will pick up that they moved. The
Speaker 1: Raiders moved down to fifteen. They pick up a third
Speaker 1: round pick and a fifth round pick. And so they're
Speaker 1: showing the the Arizona Cardinal War Room right now. I
Speaker 1: the picks gotta be in there. All there. We go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the picks in. We're just waiting for the commissioner to
Speaker 1: walk to the podium. We've we think it's going to
Speaker 1: be a quarterback here I threw out there. Hey, Sam
Speaker 1: and Josh have fun in Buffalo in New York. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hang out in freaking Phoenix. You really do believe
Speaker 1: it's Rosen? Do you believe? Do you believe? Do you
Speaker 1: beats Jackson? I think it's Rosen. I think I thinks Rosen.
Speaker 1: That's why I would lean. I think you could get
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson at fifteen if that's what you wanted. If
Speaker 1: you want them, you gotta go get them. Though it's true,
Speaker 1: you're right, but I mean you only gave up a
Speaker 1: three and of five. Yeah, the Raiders must have wanted
Speaker 1: out of that pick. Oh, the Raiders, John Gruden, they
Speaker 1: probably him and Reggie were probably about to have a
Speaker 1: fist fight in the war room over who was going.
Speaker 1: And to go back to what we were talking about,
Speaker 1: I wonder how much the McGlinchey pick factored into that.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's the guy that had their heart
Speaker 1: set on sure and they're like, wor right, let's get
Speaker 1: out of here. Yeah, and you said, Dave, maybe one
Speaker 1: fifty two. It was it's one fifty two and seventy nine.
Speaker 1: There you go, you got it right there. That's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: So the Raiders do pick up that that would be
Speaker 1: a third round pick, and the commissioner's walking to the podium.
Speaker 1: So let's see what he has to say about the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals at the tenth overall pick. There you go,
Speaker 1: good job, Dan Burglar. All right, Josh Rosen, the quarterback
Speaker 1: from UCLA, he had a little bit of weight there
Speaker 1: in the green room at there at at and T Stadium,
Speaker 1: but he is heading two, heading to Pac twelve country.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers says, you had a weight, shut up. He
Speaker 1: went ten overall. He went ten overall. So yes, Josh Rosen,
Speaker 1: Uh you like that fit. You know, he was my
Speaker 1: top rated quarterback. He was my he was my top guy.
Speaker 1: And he's gonna I think it's gonna be a good situation.
Speaker 1: Just it's a huge sigh of relief for him. Just
Speaker 1: you see him just breathe and now put that smile
Speaker 1: on his face. So yeah, he's going to the desert
Speaker 1: and again close to uh, he's in a situation where
Speaker 1: he's uh, you know, he's played a lot of football
Speaker 1: out there with UCLA and it played at Arizona. They're
Speaker 1: gonna play in Washington, La. I mean that's that's a
Speaker 1: good that's a good spot for him to kind of
Speaker 1: be in some familiar surroundings for him. I could probably
Speaker 1: use a little bit of help. I mean, David David
Speaker 1: Johnson's a great player. Larry Fitzgerald is on the He's
Speaker 1: to steal a phrase from you, he's like driving up
Speaker 1: to the eighteenth. Yeah, he's playing. He's playing that, he's
Speaker 1: playing the seventh. He's putting out at seventeen. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get his ball and head over the eighteenth.
Speaker 1: So you can use a little bit of help. Four
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the top ten. What we mentioned this on
Speaker 1: the Draft Show. Almost every week, if you want a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you need to go get him. Yeah. And except for
Speaker 1: the Browns, who could not trade up further than one,
Speaker 1: every other team that drafted a quarterback trade it up. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so history tells us you want a quarterback, you better
Speaker 1: trade up for him. Okay, Well that means that the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals again, they take Josh Rosen the quarterback. I
Speaker 1: just think watching him play and Matt Ryan, I mean
Speaker 1: I just see a guy that's see a guy that
Speaker 1: took a lot of hits. There's some questions we we
Speaker 1: kind of went into some of the questions about him.
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler was absolutely right. He's had two known concussions.
Speaker 1: Dane has even talked about a shoulder that was a
Speaker 1: tennis injury that he had to give up. And so
Speaker 1: but I do know for a fact there are some
Speaker 1: concerns about that about his concussions. So we will see
Speaker 1: what in fact that happens with him. But the Arizona
Speaker 1: trades up for their guy, and and here we go. Now, Okay,
Speaker 1: if you're the Dolphins, Lamar Jackson's sitting there, how enticing
Speaker 1: is that Ryan Tannehill's coming back off the ACL Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill has not proven to be a guy that can
Speaker 1: lead you to the playoffs. Yeah, that's interesting. Can I
Speaker 1: can I derail that for a second? And just I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about this big star that's on the wall behind you. Guys,
Speaker 1: Um you're picking nineteenth. Yeah, so you just saw a
Speaker 1: team give up a third and a fifth to jump
Speaker 1: five spots. What you're thinking, Brian? You know what, I'm
Speaker 1: still I'm in that mode right now. And as we
Speaker 1: do a shift here, it's like hockey. It's like hockey here.
Speaker 1: Kevin Turner, Kevin Turner is the right guy to have
Speaker 1: here because I just read your tweet. Yeah yeah, let's
Speaker 1: have fun, right, So yeah, we pick up Kevin Turner
Speaker 1: from one oh five three the fan Kat Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Fray, Tremaine, m Tremaine, Edwin's Derwin James, and Minka
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick are all hanging around right now. I just want
Speaker 1: to throw that out there. You're gonna try to get
Speaker 1: me to trade, aren't you brought us? Is? No brought us?
Speaker 1: Is I'm the one trying to have this conversation because literally,
Speaker 1: it just it only costs a third and a fifth
Speaker 1: to go five spots exactly. No, if you're okay, again,
Speaker 1: the war room cam has been covered for quite oh yeah,
Speaker 1: quite a bit. Right now, let's see if in fact
Speaker 1: it stays covered for them to go We've talked about this,
Speaker 1: for them to go to uh to Miami, it'd be
Speaker 1: a straight two. Now again, the Oakland Oakland should have
Speaker 1: on their trade. They end up getting a three and
Speaker 1: to five. Oakland on the chart, should got a two
Speaker 1: and a five. Yeah, and they got a three and
Speaker 1: five instead. That might have been a little bit of
Speaker 1: a panic picks in for the Dolphins. So we're gonna,
Speaker 1: We're gonna, we're gonna select somebody here, so can't go
Speaker 1: to Dolphins now the next team would be well, and
Speaker 1: then if you want Derwin James, I mean, the team
Speaker 1: that's been linked to him all along is about to
Speaker 1: be on the clock. So I don't know if that's realistic. Katie,
Speaker 1: what do you your your thoughts right now? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that we're bringing in here. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: been on the other side on one oh five three?
Speaker 1: Has it been the way you thought? How's that kind
Speaker 1: of transpired for you? You know, I was not surprised
Speaker 1: at all by the Baker Mayfield thing, but the Denzel
Speaker 1: Ward thing caught me off guard a little bit. I
Speaker 1: thought Chubb and Miles Garrett together was too much to
Speaker 1: pass up on and for them to go cornerback, which
Speaker 1: they need help in their secondary. They absolutely have to
Speaker 1: have secondary help. But it's just not the direction I
Speaker 1: thought that things were gonna go. And it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of turned the whole draft upside down. It has and uh,
Speaker 1: again we're just waiting on the Dolphins pick there at
Speaker 1: at eleven. It is, it is, in fact, we're waiting again.
Speaker 1: It is. Uh, it's like the commissioner. Yeah, he's going
Speaker 1: to walk to the podium, so let's see who in
Speaker 1: fact coming from He's coming from there. So yeah, let's
Speaker 1: see Commissier Goodell for the Dolphins pick at eleven Mica Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: I like that he said defensive back. Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where to play. That's a lot
Speaker 1: of teams had questions about where to play Mika Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: Do you play him as a slot corner? Do you
Speaker 1: play him, you know, just as a safety? But yeah,
Speaker 1: they've kind of, uh, they've kind of said, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna list him as a defensive back and go from there. Uh.
Speaker 1: And they continue to put stock in Ryan Tannehill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I thought that might be the spot where they
Speaker 1: would have to take a quarterback, but I guess not. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean and if you look at if you look
Speaker 1: at what they've they've talked about, they're if you look
Speaker 1: at the Dolphins need they've drilled the Dolphins or the
Speaker 1: media down, there's drilled the Dolphins about a true middle
Speaker 1: of the field safety. After you know, Adam Guy said
Speaker 1: he didn't feel like his two safeties Jones and McDonald
Speaker 1: didn't mesh very well, so is this a situation where
Speaker 1: Mica Fitzpatrick is going to play safety? You know, and
Speaker 1: but we've also talked about you know, I think well that,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a you know, and Dane, like
Speaker 1: Dane said, he's higher than him on most but you
Speaker 1: just said the number two guy on his board. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It much like the Broncos with Bradley Chubb. You take
Speaker 1: the best player there, figure out where he's gonna play later.
Speaker 1: You can play safety, he could play corner. You could
Speaker 1: do them a little bit of everything. How far do
Speaker 1: you think Lamar Jackson falls now the fifth quarterback of
Speaker 1: the bunch. It's a really good point because I would
Speaker 1: have said he doesn't fall further than Arizona, And now
Speaker 1: Arizona doesn't. They picked, they they got their quarterback. Are
Speaker 1: a chance he makes it passed or the Cowboys pick
Speaker 1: at nineteen? There's definitely a chance. But what about Baltimore? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chargers need to consider it too, right. I think I
Speaker 1: think the Chargers are clearly in play here on this one.
Speaker 1: I am I weird if I think they don't want
Speaker 1: that type of quarterback though, pro style. I mean, Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson's a pro style quarter and I and you're right.
Speaker 1: He actolutely. He keeps strange to some people, but he
Speaker 1: is he can play from the pocket. You're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: that's that's not fair of me. I'm just thinking I
Speaker 1: can't imagine the Chargers playing with a quarterback who can run.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so like, Philip Rivers is the most
Speaker 1: statuesque quarterback in the league. That dude can't scramble for
Speaker 1: his life, So that would that would be interesting. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Baltimore, the Chargers, well, the Chargers. I mean again,
Speaker 1: there's you know, Philip Rivers, He's having to make those
Speaker 1: trips from San Diego to la If it's not Baltimore
Speaker 1: or the Chargers, then then I'm thinking New England is
Speaker 1: the next most likely landing spot. Can we see a
Speaker 1: New England up? Yeah, I set that at the start
Speaker 1: of the show. Well, I'm with you, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Is that why Lamar Jackson's well, and he didn't really
Speaker 1: have a lot of reps? Is that why Lamar Jackson's reps?
Speaker 1: We're telling other teams, oh yeah, we're not gonna meet
Speaker 1: with you, or not getting back to teams about meetings.
Speaker 1: Do you think New England did under the table Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: don't don't meet with anyone else, nobody. We're gonna come
Speaker 1: get you. Nobody likes to conspiracy theory more than you.
Speaker 1: It makes sense, though, doesn't it It does? Doesn't it
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense? It does. We'll come get you.
Speaker 1: You don't, don't meet with anyone else. We'll come get you, man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they got the ammunition to do it, the inventory.
Speaker 1: They got the four picks in the first two rounds.
Speaker 1: This fun, boys, let's let's you're getting me off track here,
Speaker 1: because Tampa Bay is on the clock. Tampa Bay is
Speaker 1: Not only is Tampa Bay on the clock, but Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay is very strongly linked to the player that I
Speaker 1: want more than any other. Yeah, and if he doesn't
Speaker 1: go here, then things are interesting for me in Cowboyland.
Speaker 1: Now the war room is covered up, so I have
Speaker 1: no idea if agree with me, But man, I'm man
Speaker 1: in some phones right now. Oh we're back, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the war is back. Does not look like a war
Speaker 1: room that is bustling with activity either. No, and it's
Speaker 1: getting close to their pick, well, actually seven picks away
Speaker 1: from the cowboys. Everybody looks very locked in to what's
Speaker 1: going on right there. No real surprise. Dave was talking
Speaker 1: about really no big activity. If if you're I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're talking about having a trade, somebody would be
Speaker 1: on the phone right now, you would have you'd probably
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a huddle maybe. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: by the way, the war room is uh, the war room,
Speaker 1: mccam is there. It's inside the Ford Center at the
Speaker 1: start here in Frisco. So I just want to get
Speaker 1: that in there for that. Will McClay working on some
Speaker 1: notes he might be working on the up and down
Speaker 1: chart here, he's got that again. That the legal sheet
Speaker 1: of paper he's trying to explain to it looks like
Speaker 1: to Jason Garrett, uh, you know what it might cost
Speaker 1: to go up and get somebody picks in from Tampa.
Speaker 1: By the way, we are focused right now on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys war room. If it's not Derwin, what are we
Speaker 1: thinking here for Tampa Bay? Could they go defensive line? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Could this? Could they? Marcus Davenport? Uh, well, maybe beef
Speaker 1: it up in the middle a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what alongside McCoy right, Okay, Well, now here the
Speaker 1: can the camera. They must be listening to our broadcast. Hey,
Speaker 1: they're talking about it. That camera cover the camera up.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but the picks in for Tampa and so
Speaker 1: we will we'll see who in fact that is. But
Speaker 1: i'd like to you know, Vinavea is an interesting thought
Speaker 1: right here, Katie, I really want him at nineteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's where the Cowboys were kind
Speaker 1: of looking at their charts and seeing where could they
Speaker 1: can they get to? Can they get up to you know,
Speaker 1: can they get the Green Bay and get you know,
Speaker 1: green Bay was kind of hunting rush edge players and
Speaker 1: they were also hunting. Now could they get Davenport at nineteen?
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that too much of a string considerate? Oh?
Speaker 1: Green Bay? Green Bay? Green Bay? Yeah? I think they could.
Speaker 1: I mean, who do you think goes first? Landry or Davenport?
Speaker 1: Should be Landers should be Landry, But I think Davenport
Speaker 1: would probably go before. And you know, we were talking
Speaker 1: at the top of the show. Maybe the Cowboys don't
Speaker 1: feel as strongly about Harold Landry as we think they should.
Speaker 1: I mean, right, that's the trickiest thing about all this
Speaker 1: is trying to balance your own evaluations of these guys
Speaker 1: with what they think, because they're ultimately the ones that
Speaker 1: make the call. Okay, the commissioners walk into the podium,
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with the twelfth pick overall, will
Speaker 1: make that selection. Are he is all right, Dave suit
Speaker 1: he's wearing Yeah, nice call Katie on that when you
Speaker 1: talked about that, and so look at that man, what
Speaker 1: a great look. They had two areas. Yeah, they needed
Speaker 1: to get better and it was on the defensive line
Speaker 1: or in the secondary. Yeah, they sure did so. Again
Speaker 1: and we talked about this on the Draft show. While back, David,
Speaker 1: it looks like a little bit of a slide for
Speaker 1: Derwin James here you called it people questioning, uh a,
Speaker 1: he had a knee in the past. The effort, fair
Speaker 1: type attitude on the field. People don't want an all
Speaker 1: programs I disagree with as well. Can I ask you
Speaker 1: a question about another player who's still on the board, Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead. Would the Cowboys have interest in linebacker Tremaine
Speaker 1: Edmonds if he keeps falling? Helly see That's where I'm
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, but this and again it's tricky because
Speaker 1: again you're talking about guys that they weren't brought in
Speaker 1: on visits. He didn't hear a whole lot. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wonder how much of that is because they didn't think
Speaker 1: they had a shot at him. He's just too good
Speaker 1: to pass. Okay, Yeah, and we're back. We're back from
Speaker 1: the uh. They've taken the cover off, so no, nobody
Speaker 1: working on this. Nobody here is surprised to see va
Speaker 1: Vea go. No, but it still sucks. Do they like
Speaker 1: Vanderesh more than Tremaine Edmonds? That's the thing, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. They've been linked to vander Esh more
Speaker 1: than almost any other player. We know they like him
Speaker 1: a lot, do they? Are they not talking about Edmunds
Speaker 1: because they didn't think they could get him or because
Speaker 1: they don't like him? I don't know. I mean the
Speaker 1: only way to figure that out is to wait and
Speaker 1: see what happens. Because I think just about every mock
Speaker 1: I've ever seen didn't have Edmunds falling past Miami and no, no,
Speaker 1: he was, and I always saw him like ended up
Speaker 1: at San Francisco at nine exactly. He's been He's been
Speaker 1: thought of as a consensus top ten guy for a
Speaker 1: long time. Well, there's your defensive line for Tampa, Jason Pierre,
Speaker 1: Paul Gerald McCoy, Vita Vea involved there on that offensive,
Speaker 1: on that defensive line. That's pretty fun. Yeah, that's pretty
Speaker 1: fun right there. It is a pretty fun group right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're looking in the war room once again. Washington is
Speaker 1: on the clock at thirteen right now. They got about
Speaker 1: five minutes twenty seconds before they have to turn in
Speaker 1: their card. Jerry Jones Stephen Jones are talking right now,
Speaker 1: kind of huddled up there. Jason Garrett is following the
Speaker 1: dre straight away. Everybody looks very very calm in there
Speaker 1: for the situation they might be thinking about. Okay, do
Speaker 1: they Does it come down to where you have to
Speaker 1: take Katie? Where you take uh, you know, the two
Speaker 1: players where where we've been you've mentioned, you know, with
Speaker 1: the Derwin, James and Edmunds? Who you know, is there
Speaker 1: a possibility of a of a trade up? I think
Speaker 1: the guy that would trade up four would be James.
Speaker 1: But I think so too. But maybe you're gonna sit
Speaker 1: and let the ride this thing. We haven't been talking
Speaker 1: about Edmunds because we didn't feel like he was gonna
Speaker 1: be there. Okay, but let's all right, maybe we're going
Speaker 1: a little ahead of ourselves. Who cares we gotta fill
Speaker 1: five hours? We had six picks away. Yeah, we're pretty close,
Speaker 1: but maybe they don't like ed I mean, okay, this
Speaker 1: is amateur diagnosis, but can Edmunds do both? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think I think you could play. Yeah, he screams Mike
Speaker 1: to me. Oh yeah, he's a big physical guy. And
Speaker 1: uh nobody has appeared yet into the war, many coaches
Speaker 1: or anything. But yeah, you who do you think could
Speaker 1: do both better? But beween him and Layton Vandert give
Speaker 1: me Edmond. I knew you were gonna say, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I mean I have Edmonds is a
Speaker 1: first round guy on my board. I just think he
Speaker 1: mean you look at him, the way he plays the
Speaker 1: run hit factor right there. Yeah, I mean, no, you
Speaker 1: gotta again, you know you're you want big physical guys.
Speaker 1: That could be uh you know, it could be part
Speaker 1: of that. I really I haven't, you know, Like I
Speaker 1: keep saying, we barely talked about Edmonds because none of
Speaker 1: us thought he would still be available. Yeah, but and
Speaker 1: we might still lose him here and just a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's a guy. He's a guy where when you fire
Speaker 1: up the tape and start watching it, you're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh hi, I will say, with Washington on the clock,
Speaker 1: right now, A team that could use they could have
Speaker 1: used defensive line help again and they vey as gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cornerback could be something they have Josh Norman. We know
Speaker 1: they signed Orlando Scandrid, but they did have to pay
Speaker 1: a price of trading Fuller away to the Chiefs to
Speaker 1: get Alex Smith. So cornerback makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Orlando Scander's not stopping you from doing something in the draft.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Well let me ask you this though, Alexander
Speaker 1: like Alexander more than say Hughes. I like Hughes more personally,
Speaker 1: but it's really close, you know for me. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: Hugh's kind of more of a get in your face
Speaker 1: with Josh Norman locking up one side of the field.
Speaker 1: I like Hughes to lock up the other side of
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, but Alexander's very good. Um, they could
Speaker 1: used to edge help too, right, how about okay, how
Speaker 1: about this could okay picks in you see, maybe this
Speaker 1: could okay too early for one of these sinners for Daniels.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you think about it, I mean,
Speaker 1: they lost, they lost long and then they have you know,
Speaker 1: problems at guard. Is this is this too early for
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman here, I'm just throwing out another name.
Speaker 1: I mean, and then all these teams know if they
Speaker 1: want that offensive lineman, they need to get them early.
Speaker 1: They need to get them today if they need it.
Speaker 1: I've never once believed this, But another another guy that's
Speaker 1: had a lot of smoke with the Redskins is Darius Guys.
Speaker 1: I've never understood that. But I mean, so I'm considering
Speaker 1: all my options here. I'll tell you what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's it's fascinated again. I just kind of I'm wondering
Speaker 1: about the slide a little bit here with uh with Edmonds,
Speaker 1: I really am. I mean, and and maybe the Cowboys
Speaker 1: might catch a break. We'll see how it all, uh,
Speaker 1: we'll see how it all transpires here. The Redskins Pick
Speaker 1: is in. We're just waiting for the commissioner to uh
Speaker 1: to go to the podium and make it. And he
Speaker 1: is on his way, So let's go there for the
Speaker 1: washing Redskins thirteenth overall. Pick. I think he's in the
Speaker 1: crowd kind of wondering, say this more bad camera worker.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna do this from the stand? Is he
Speaker 1: is he gonna? Is he coming from the ceiling. That's
Speaker 1: what I want to know, beazing. I don't say that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't say that. Here we go, we're trying to get
Speaker 1: and the commissioners walking here he comes. Hey, yes, wow,
Speaker 1: So worst run defense in the league and they need
Speaker 1: to add a run stopping defensive tackle. They failed addressed
Speaker 1: this a year ago. So man, uh yeah, we got
Speaker 1: Ziggie Hood is thirty one years old. So durn Payne,
Speaker 1: he's gonna prepare it now with his old Alabama teammate,
Speaker 1: uh from the from last year, Jonathan Allen. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna get that national championship type of cover H love connection.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean I think durn Paine's a hell
Speaker 1: of a player, don't get me wrong, But like I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about the Cowboys here, and that's a guy that
Speaker 1: I don't think they are super interested in taking him nineteenth.
Speaker 1: I am, I'm not super interested in taking him nineteenth.
Speaker 1: So Harold Landry, come on down, Derwin James, come on down,
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, come on down. Like there's a it's starting
Speaker 1: to look like there's a I mean, there's at least
Speaker 1: a decent chance that a guy we didn't think was
Speaker 1: gonna be there is gonna be there. Sure, and we
Speaker 1: had early Yeah, we had a bunch of different names.
Speaker 1: We need Lamar Jackson to go somewhere in these next
Speaker 1: four or five picks. Well, I don't think you know, Katie,
Speaker 1: you know you follow the Green Bay Packers pretty strongly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my family, big Packer fans. And Okay, and and they're
Speaker 1: now on the they're now on the clock at the
Speaker 1: at fourteen. Is this is we've we've kind of talked
Speaker 1: about Davenport from UT San Antonio as being that guy.
Speaker 1: Is is in fact? Or are we still looking at
Speaker 1: one of the cornerbacks? Oh, here's the trade. Hey, here
Speaker 1: we go. They're gonna I just said we needed Lamar
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, oh wow, here we go. There. We
Speaker 1: talked about it before this, before the show that the
Speaker 1: team that was gonna move up we thought would be
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. Wait, god, we're so smart. We
Speaker 1: said this was gonna happen. Yeah, how about that coming
Speaker 1: up all the way from twenty seven up to fourteen. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here we go, we got a trade. Saints are
Speaker 1: on the clock. This is the Packers. Okay, Now, Katie,
Speaker 1: the Packers are going to back out of here and
Speaker 1: they're gonna go and as they've been known to do,
Speaker 1: they're gonna go all the way down to the twenty.
Speaker 1: We'll see what they get out of the trade. This
Speaker 1: puts the Saints now on the clock. We think this
Speaker 1: is for Lamar Jackson. And there's no questions it is.
Speaker 1: It goes from twenty seven to fourteen to draft anything else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just don't And it makes sense for the Saints.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees signed a two year extension, but he's he's
Speaker 1: turning forty soon. He's not gonna play forever. You get
Speaker 1: a five year option on it, and oh hey, we're
Speaker 1: talking about Bruce arians Yeah. You think Sean Payton can
Speaker 1: do a thing or two with Lamar Jackson. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is I love this pick for the Saints. I know.
Speaker 1: I mean that's where I'm from. I would think that
Speaker 1: a lot of people down in New Orleans are going
Speaker 1: to be pumped about this. You think they give up
Speaker 1: next years one? It's got to be something, right. I
Speaker 1: wonder if they did that, If they give up next
Speaker 1: years one, I mean, that's the price you pay for
Speaker 1: jumping up that far to get quarterback. Yeah, you're you've
Speaker 1: you've gone, You've gone. Uh man, that's amazing. You get
Speaker 1: thirteen picks. Give the Cardinals in the Saints credit if
Speaker 1: this is for Lamar Jackson, the Cardinal, the Saints for
Speaker 1: not sitting on their hands like year sure, making the move,
Speaker 1: go up and get your next quarterbacks? You'd rather have
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson or Pat Mahomes. I'm serious, I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think I had I had Jackson hire
Speaker 1: giving Lamar Jackson, Yeah, I had, I had Jackson higher.
Speaker 1: And I think Pat Mahomes is going to be a
Speaker 1: hell of a quarterback too. I kind of had Pat
Speaker 1: Mahomes in at Baker Mayfield spot in the second round
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, you know, nothing, nothing is for certain
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But the Saints were a wonky Hail
Speaker 1: Mary away from the NFC title game with the roster
Speaker 1: that they have right now, and they need o Lione help.
Speaker 1: They could use an edge rusher. But if you have
Speaker 1: a chance to secure you know, it's you know, we're
Speaker 1: talking about the Pats trading up for Lamar Jackson. Sure,
Speaker 1: how about the Saints? You mean, like I said, Drew
Speaker 1: Brees is one of these days he's going to be done.
Speaker 1: And this gives you a guy who can step in
Speaker 1: and take care of it. Probably felt they had to
Speaker 1: get in front of Baltimore and the Chargers and had
Speaker 1: to find someone in New England for that. Man Oakland
Speaker 1: at fifteen, okay, was probably not going to trade back again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're trying to get in front of the teams
Speaker 1: at sixteen and seventeen and beat New England to the punch.
Speaker 1: So New Orleans waited until the proper time to make
Speaker 1: this deal. We'll see how much, you know, inventory they
Speaker 1: had to give up to Green Bay. What's ironic is
Speaker 1: that the rumor was the Packers, we're going to try
Speaker 1: to trade up into the top ten and make a splash, right,
Speaker 1: you know new management Ted Thompson's not there anymore, and
Speaker 1: they do the exact opposite. But I have a feeling
Speaker 1: they are gonna get a nice little price tag. I
Speaker 1: believe Green Bay had more picks than anyone in this draft.
Speaker 1: So that's true. They could be a candidate to use
Speaker 1: at twenty seven, to use what they've got to move
Speaker 1: back up and get help, whether it be Harold Landry,
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenporter, one of the cornerbacks. But you start to
Speaker 1: look at the Derwin James issue too, So if we
Speaker 1: presume that Lamar Jackson gets to the Saints at fourteen,
Speaker 1: we are now at fifteen, which would give you pick
Speaker 1: eighty one range if you wanted to trade up and
Speaker 1: make a play. Yeah, yeah, yes, I'm honestly I'm bummed
Speaker 1: that the war room is cover this thing up and
Speaker 1: start making some calls. Yeah, it looks like to me
Speaker 1: that nobody is working a phone. Will McClay the right,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Obviously, Jerry and Stephen are gonna
Speaker 1: talk anytime the Cowboys make a phone call. But Will
Speaker 1: McClay is the guy that makes that call. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think there if that Stephen Jones, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think Will McClay will recommend. Here. Here's the thing. Let's
Speaker 1: see the twenty set in the fifth round, and there
Speaker 1: you go, there's a first round pick from next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that is not that high to me, especially if
Speaker 1: I'm the Saints. I'm expecting to pick twenty fifth or later,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that was a fifth
Speaker 1: round pick day. Did you see what else went this year?
Speaker 1: Twenty seven? A fifth this year and next year's first. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it was it was a fifth round pick that
Speaker 1: goes to Green Bay and next year's one. So the kicker,
Speaker 1: that whole thing is next year's one. Right, that's now
Speaker 1: the pat I mean, for all intents and purposes, you're
Speaker 1: just giving up next year's one. I'm okay a fifth
Speaker 1: fifth round pick, big deal, right, that's and like I said,
Speaker 1: the Saints should be expecting to pick twenty fifth or
Speaker 1: later and next year's draft, so it ain't like they're
Speaker 1: expecting to part ways with pick five and some of
Speaker 1: the things that you might have issues with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: I think he's he's ready to play, but he could sit,
Speaker 1: learn the verbiage of the offense, get comfortable and confident
Speaker 1: within a system they're in New Orleans, and then step
Speaker 1: in and be ready to go. Maybe you play them
Speaker 1: at receiver for a year. No kidding, get out of here,
Speaker 1: bullion kidding. Yeah, it's really we're inside. We're inside of
Speaker 1: two minutes, you know for this and now the pick
Speaker 1: definitely is in. Uh they're talking about They even threw
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport's name up there on the screen. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that would be all about for the Saints,
Speaker 1: but let's see, maybe they felt like though we could
Speaker 1: Davenport hell Oakland. No, I think that this has got
Speaker 1: to be for the quarterback. I mean, I mean you
Speaker 1: said it emphatically from twenty seven. Yeah, for next year's
Speaker 1: one fourteen, it's got to be for Jackson. Absolutely, it
Speaker 1: has to be for Jackson. It's the only thing it
Speaker 1: can be, right, It's got to be the only Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: the pick is in and we'll see in fact act
Speaker 1: what happened. Man, I mean, this has been kind of
Speaker 1: fun with this. We talked about this pre draft, we
Speaker 1: talked about this, We went on the air that this
Speaker 1: that that watched the team coming from the back. We
Speaker 1: talked about the Saints, and the Saints a player fell
Speaker 1: right to where they wanted him to be and they
Speaker 1: Dave gave up a fifth round pick in this draft
Speaker 1: and next year's one, and like you guys said, they're
Speaker 1: planning on being a playoff team, they should be. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So let's see what we have here. The commissioner is
Speaker 1: making his way to the podium. He's in the crowd,
Speaker 1: hanging out with it. Like they they're drawing me off
Speaker 1: sides here. Yeah. Like I keep thinking Goodell's gonna come
Speaker 1: out of its seat. A Florida Lee tattoos. He has
Speaker 1: a Florida Lee tattooed on. So yeah, let's see the
Speaker 1: I mean, we're kind of waiting to get for the commissioner.
Speaker 1: They say the picks in. I thought they had that
Speaker 1: angle of the camera. They're drawing us. They all they
Speaker 1: cut like, what what are they doing? They're they're pointing
Speaker 1: to their section. You're right, you're right, they're pointing to
Speaker 1: the Saints sex. And so they're having a mini a
Speaker 1: mini Monti grow going on in the Saints section right
Speaker 1: now because they're about to select their quarterbacks. Everybody's very
Speaker 1: excited about that. We're still again waiting for the commissioner
Speaker 1: unless he got to detained. I got I got drawn
Speaker 1: off sides. Guys. I had that angle. They had that
Speaker 1: angle where I was kind of like, okay, well here
Speaker 1: comes to the commissioner. But JC get lost. It's a
Speaker 1: beautiful setup. They've got on the right, absolutely doing it.
Speaker 1: I bet you that Saint sections a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Then there are a lot a lot of folks. So
Speaker 1: the transplants from my people, your people. David here he goes,
Speaker 1: all right, can't let's talk to the commissioner. Who are you? Wow,
Speaker 1: you didn't like what I was talking about Marcus Davenport,
Speaker 1: did you I said, we sounded smart five minutes ago.
Speaker 1: Now I feel stupid. How much say does Sean Payton
Speaker 1: have in that room? Did he just say, I love
Speaker 1: your may I may go somewhere else after this year,
Speaker 1: trading my net my pick next year on Earth. I
Speaker 1: think every block now everything reaction in the Cowboy War
Speaker 1: room is is nobody Flint. Stephen Jones has got a
Speaker 1: smile on his face. Chris Hall on the right, he's
Speaker 1: looking at Todd Williams like, what just happened? I bet
Speaker 1: you hey, we heard you know we I had a
Speaker 1: conversation with with somebody on the football side of the building.
Speaker 1: He was basically like, you know, you get you get
Speaker 1: one wow per first round. You know one thing that
Speaker 1: you really didn't see coming. Based on some of those reactions,
Speaker 1: I wonder if that was it right. I would count
Speaker 1: three of them so far into Night's draft. At least
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward you on where he did what durn Payne
Speaker 1: and then Marcus Davenport that just okay, if you think
Speaker 1: you're one piece away from a championship, maybe you do
Speaker 1: that well they do right, maybe, But Marcus Davenport. They
Speaker 1: would have been in the championship game if Marcus Williams
Speaker 1: didn't fold down. You're you're right. I mean so I
Speaker 1: think they see themselves as that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport could be the end up being the best
Speaker 1: pass rusher in this draft, this was Bradley Chubb, I
Speaker 1: would get it. But man, this is projectability right here exactly. Hey,
Speaker 1: maybe he's a freak, maybe he's freaking von Miller, but
Speaker 1: man's I was when you do that? I like, I mean,
Speaker 1: we were we all thought it was Lamar Jackson. You're
Speaker 1: over here smiling at me. I brought up Davidport. You
Speaker 1: guys kind of looked at me like I was weird.
Speaker 1: When was the last time somebody who made a jump
Speaker 1: like this for not a quarterback? But you saw him
Speaker 1: bringing show Davenport on the screen. No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: saw it was. To me, there was talk it was.
Speaker 1: It was kind of this discussion that was going on,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, well, that's why I brought up Davenport
Speaker 1: because project it was like projected players. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was Davidport and Jackson with the two guys, and that's
Speaker 1: why I brought it up. And then everybody kind of
Speaker 1: got on me about a little bit. So you're over here,
Speaker 1: like I knew it wasn't gonna be Lamar Jackson. I knew, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I had him marked on my shell,
Speaker 1: on my sheet, Dave. I had him. I had to
Speaker 1: erase him on my board. I thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: be Lamar Jackson. I really did five picks away, and
Speaker 1: we have Edmonds on the board and we have Derwin
Speaker 1: James on that. Let's reset for you, Yeah, a little
Speaker 1: bit exactly. I mean, just do the last I'll do
Speaker 1: the last five picks. They just to just to reset
Speaker 1: here a little bit. Arizona took Josh Rosen at ten,
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins at eleven, took Mika Fitzpatrick. Vidavea goes
Speaker 1: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at twelve, the Ron Payne
Speaker 1: to the Washington Redskins at thirteen, and then the Saints
Speaker 1: charge up the board. They come marching in and they
Speaker 1: trade with the Green Bay Packers. Grew up next year's
Speaker 1: one to take Marcus Davenport, the defensive end from the
Speaker 1: University of Texas at San Antonio. That leaves the Oakland
Speaker 1: Raiders on the clock. Then the Baltimore Ravens, Los Angeles Chargers,
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, and your Dallas Cowboys. What's Gruden want he
Speaker 1: because it's I don't know if he wants to take
Speaker 1: ice cold Corona and a plate of Hooters wings because
Speaker 1: he got he got beat. He got beat on the
Speaker 1: trade going back, Yeah, he got beat. I mean he
Speaker 1: should have taken a two and a five, but he
Speaker 1: took a three to five. So obviously in the Raider tradition,
Speaker 1: he did not want to make a pick, and so
Speaker 1: we were see cornerback, yeah, and linebacker. They've talked about
Speaker 1: needing a playmaking linebacker. Obviously they picked up Novarro Bowman
Speaker 1: late in the year last year out of desperation, almost
Speaker 1: like this team here did um so you know that
Speaker 1: would have Tremaine Edmund written all over it. You know
Speaker 1: they took Obie last year, and that's that's a really
Speaker 1: I mean to Kean O'Neil. And again, I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to go on pre draft logic, which is
Speaker 1: obviously absurd because we just saw the Saints take Marcus Davenport.
Speaker 1: But Roquan Smith and Tremaine Edmonds are guys that have
Speaker 1: been to talk about a lot for the Raiders, So
Speaker 1: I mean that's certainly something I would keep an eye on. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: how about this. Landry makes a lot of sense here.
Speaker 1: Landry does because again you put him on the other
Speaker 1: side with Khalil Mack mac rushes from that left side. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: I mean the Raiders ranked twenty third in the league
Speaker 1: in sacks last year. Now, Derek Carter did get beat
Speaker 1: up a little bit last year as well, So you know,
Speaker 1: maybe all the other mcglinchey's already gone. To me, there's
Speaker 1: not really another offensive tackle that's close. I mean, Connor
Speaker 1: Williams would be next. Here's a pretty big fall off
Speaker 1: and offensive tackle. Yeah. I know, a lot of teams
Speaker 1: like Colton Miller doesn't seem brought him in somebody. Um
Speaker 1: so maybe that, but I think Edmonds makes the most sense. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we'll see. They say the pick is in and the
Speaker 1: Raiders are have This is a pick that they acquired
Speaker 1: they traded back with the Arizona Cardinals. Katie's mentioned of
Speaker 1: the guys that are potentially on the board, Landry from
Speaker 1: Boston College, Tremaine Edmonds from Virginia Tech. We have Evans
Speaker 1: from Alabama, on my board and in Hughes of the
Speaker 1: cornerback from Central Florida and James the safety from Florida State.
Speaker 1: The uh they they're trying to trick me with that
Speaker 1: shot again, showing like the commissioner he's gonna come out
Speaker 1: this time. I think the commission had to take a
Speaker 1: little break, and so now he's at the podium. Let's go, oh, okay, dude,
Speaker 1: they don't they don't have they don't have two functional tackles.
Speaker 1: This should surprise you in the sense that you don't
Speaker 1: like him as a player, right, But it shouldn't surprise
Speaker 1: you in the sense that, I mean the signs were there.
Speaker 1: Teams liked him. He's mocked in the first round often
Speaker 1: he's at the draft. I mean that tells you all
Speaker 1: you need to know. He's also the cause of Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen's concussions last year. I mean, Colton Millers, We've talked
Speaker 1: about him a bunch. The Cowboys brought him in on
Speaker 1: a thirty visit, and they also brought in Mike McGlinchey.
Speaker 1: And this is a it's a very athletic guy, but
Speaker 1: he's not very strong. Briggs written all over him. Funny
Speaker 1: funny in the way that works. You want to talk
Speaker 1: about that, No, I just I think the athletic offensive
Speaker 1: tackle that teams get enamored with. You just need to
Speaker 1: see more power. Yeah, I have to see more power
Speaker 1: in my offensive linemen. It's just funny to me. I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: we know, we know, we know a lot about this stuff.
Speaker 1: We spend a lot of time on it. I think
Speaker 1: we do a really good job. But you know, I
Speaker 1: can think back a month and be like, oh whoa hey,
Speaker 1: okay action. Another trade is Buffalo Buffalo. We talked about
Speaker 1: Buffalo coming back up to finish that thought. I just
Speaker 1: I think it's funny that we were talking about maybe
Speaker 1: the Cowboys control the top tackle in the draft at nineteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you had one go nine and one go fifteen. Not
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, And that that goes back to my
Speaker 1: point from a million years ago. Need is such a
Speaker 1: big part of this thing, and teams don't like to
Speaker 1: admit that. But you're not going to sit around and
Speaker 1: wait to address tackle if you don't have two functioning tackles.
Speaker 1: To quote Kat Okay, the Buffalo Bills they made a
Speaker 1: trade to with Tampa and they picked up two Uh,
Speaker 1: they picked up two second round picks. They picked up
Speaker 1: pick fifty three. No, excuse me, this is this is
Speaker 1: the Bills game. Bills gave up those pick. Excuse me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is the this is the Bills trying to
Speaker 1: come back up into the into the draft. So they
Speaker 1: gave up, they gave me two. But what else did
Speaker 1: they give up? Well, they let's see, let's Buffalo picked
Speaker 1: back up a seventh round pick. I saw that. So
Speaker 1: let's say I didn't see the full details on the trade,
Speaker 1: but let's see what in fact this will let will
Speaker 1: turn into. But Buffalo is now on the clock with
Speaker 1: the play a crazy game. What do you got? What
Speaker 1: if you took two quarterbacks? You took Josh Allen, what
Speaker 1: if you took Lamar Jackson two? We talked about Cleveland
Speaker 1: maybe doing this at one and four. There's no way
Speaker 1: they do. And that nuts, there's no way they two nuts.
Speaker 1: There's not enough practice time, there's not I mean that
Speaker 1: is that they're obviously Oh here's the trade. They get
Speaker 1: a fifth overall in this and they give up sixty five.
Speaker 1: So that's the Tyrod Taylor pick. That's the Tyrod Taylor pick.
Speaker 1: So that that pick now goes to that pick goes
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, So they pick back up one fifty four, right,
Speaker 1: So one fifty four it now belongs to Buffalo, and
Speaker 1: then the sixty five now belongs to Baltimore. So they flopped.
Speaker 1: They flopped it right there, and so we will see
Speaker 1: the picks in for the Bills. I like this. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it, you're not gonna waste any time, right.
Speaker 1: Who do you think though? I mean, I know Kat's
Speaker 1: trying to go. He's doing some now unders doing bits.
Speaker 1: I think Tremaine Edmonds makes sense. Would they go receiver
Speaker 1: there to help, you know, Josh Allen. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna step in and play immediately. It could be wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe wide receiver Calvin Ridley. Maybe too early. They're trying
Speaker 1: to get their ahead of their right, ahead of Dallas.
Speaker 1: I mean, people think this is this the best player
Speaker 1: available type, Like maybe Tremaine Edmonds just fell far enough
Speaker 1: that they're like, screw this, this might be the linebacker,
Speaker 1: this this, this might be right Edmunds, I'm sorry, Dave,
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. This is They lost Brown in free agency.
Speaker 1: They didn't sign another starter or two of the two
Speaker 1: of the three part time starts from OH seven or
Speaker 1: aging players on expiring contracts. This could be, this could
Speaker 1: be this iss to this, let's go get this absolutely Okay,
Speaker 1: commissioners at the podium, there you go. That's a great
Speaker 1: pick right there. They saw. Yeah, he is a really
Speaker 1: good football player. It does look like there's any reaction
Speaker 1: in the Cowboys war room right now. That one was
Speaker 1: just a pretty a pretty steady pick right there. Everybody
Speaker 1: doing their jobs. Nobody got to fluster as all but
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds is the is the pick? Dave? Talk about
Speaker 1: him a little bit? No, Well, I'm it's funny because
Speaker 1: we have not talked a ton about him because we
Speaker 1: wrote this off. Obviously not so much because he only
Speaker 1: went three spots ahead of the Cowboys. But I mean,
Speaker 1: this dude is a gigantic athletic freak. Like you said,
Speaker 1: I mean, he just looks like a prototypical, like old
Speaker 1: school middle linebacker. I think he's got the athleticism to
Speaker 1: do both. Though I always said, you know, I think
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith is more of your speed, undersized four three guy, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I imagine this guy playing inside in a three four Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I mean that said, I think he can do anything.
Speaker 1: I think that's why that's why you see Buffalo trade
Speaker 1: up as far as they did, the fact that a
Speaker 1: guy this talented is still available at sixteen. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: thing for me is, I again, it always goes back
Speaker 1: to the cowboys for me, and I'm I'm looking at
Speaker 1: this war room and for the million time in my life,
Speaker 1: I wonder what they're thinking because obviously all the guys
Speaker 1: we've targeted are there. From the all the guys, with
Speaker 1: the exception of Vita Vea, everybody we've talked about is there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but throw Derwin jameson in the mix, Irwin James and
Speaker 1: now we're about we're about to get to the minefield. Well,
Speaker 1: we're about we've been. We've been in the minefield. The
Speaker 1: thing is is we're we're surviving the minefield and all honesty.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you wanted to trade up for this guy,
Speaker 1: not that I think they do based on the fact
Speaker 1: that nobody's on the phone, but if you wanted to,
Speaker 1: you could do it. You could do it right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're the phones are not they're not ringing, which and
Speaker 1: nobody is picked up the phone. Stephen Jones would pick
Speaker 1: up that phone. You see a bank of the phones
Speaker 1: and from he would pick up that phone, and he's
Speaker 1: got all the teams on speed dial in front of him,
Speaker 1: so all he would have to do is match one
Speaker 1: of those buttons, and he's got a team. But they
Speaker 1: might sit here and just let this thing ride. But man,
Speaker 1: it's the minefield, Dane, welcome back. Kind of some crazy
Speaker 1: stuff going on. How about that Sage trade? Did you
Speaker 1: think Lamar Jackson were already talking about how the Saints abody?
Speaker 1: But I just bring up though, I brought up the
Speaker 1: our ut San Antonio guy. Yeah, Brian made sure to
Speaker 1: be He's like, well maybe, and then he moved on
Speaker 1: and act like he called it like he hats to
Speaker 1: be wrong. I'm just shocked, as you guys. Um, we
Speaker 1: know that the Saints wanted Pat Mahomes last year and
Speaker 1: they missed him by one pick. You gave up a
Speaker 1: future one to go up that high. It must be
Speaker 1: a quarterback marked him. Yeah, I'll marked him. I don't
Speaker 1: blame you. Uh that Okay, we're on Derwin watching out right. Yeah? Absolutely, okay.
Speaker 1: But well, and that goes back to my point, which is,
Speaker 1: at this point, maybe I mean a guy that well,
Speaker 1: oh oh, things are happening we got okay, Rod, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rod Mirnoli is now in the war is Chris Christian Shard?
Speaker 1: Okay here we're talking. Well, I mean what else could
Speaker 1: that be? Okay, well, let's yeah, it's gotta be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Christi Shard has made an appearance. He's gonna be the
Speaker 1: far left the camera. Rod MIRINOI of course everybody knows
Speaker 1: him and they're there, and uh, we're gonna get some
Speaker 1: I think Chris Rashard is probably gonna describe the player
Speaker 1: a little bit, talk about what he needs. Will McClay.
Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of locked in. They're they're getting some conversation
Speaker 1: going on here. We'll problem how much How confident are
Speaker 1: you that? I mean, that's two picks. That's two picks.
Speaker 1: Well if they know if they're again, Derwin James could
Speaker 1: be a guy and then Vanderish. I mean those are
Speaker 1: the two. I mean that to me is who they're.
Speaker 1: It's true. And Chris, to be fair, Chris Rochard is
Speaker 1: also he is the passing game. So the linebacker title
Speaker 1: right from Mattieberflus, So it makes sense that he would
Speaker 1: be there for a linebacker as well. Okay, with all
Speaker 1: the excitement we've got the Chargers or on the clock.
Speaker 1: Although I will throw this in there. If it was
Speaker 1: a linebacker, don't you think Ben Bloom would be somewhere
Speaker 1: in the room. Yeah, but yeah, but you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't, Hey, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: They pay the guy to coach the linebackers. Well, those
Speaker 1: those in the two those are the two highest ranking
Speaker 1: defensive coaches. Yeah. Yeah, So so here's a mars Shawn
Speaker 1: Lattimore's house, Derwin James still on the board. Well, I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are hopeful that that things just get
Speaker 1: real quiet with what's going on there. This is a
Speaker 1: minefield here because we could Yeah, this is Chargers need
Speaker 1: safety help. We talked about this a bunch. We know
Speaker 1: the Seahawk want to move back. Someone want to go
Speaker 1: up and get the get the safety. Yeah, well I
Speaker 1: think I think the fallback guy right now would beyond
Speaker 1: later Vanderesh, But later Vanderesh like if they don't get hit,
Speaker 1: sooner they get lat and later exactly exactly myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll see the Chargers have maybe twenty left. Uh,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about them defensive line, linebacker, quarterback, and
Speaker 1: you know this is what's we talked about the quarterback here?
Speaker 1: Do they go? I mean, do they go? And you
Speaker 1: know this kN wizzen Hunt, who's the O C there,
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn, the head coach, this kN wizzen Hunt find
Speaker 1: creative ways to to use a guy like Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: This is it just makes too much sense for them,
Speaker 1: doesn't that quarterback? Like I said, it makes sense because
Speaker 1: I think Lamar Jackson's a damn good quarterback. But it's
Speaker 1: so weird for me to think of Lamar Jackson playing
Speaker 1: there because I'm so used to Philip Rivers. Yeah, once
Speaker 1: again looking in the war room inside the Ford Center
Speaker 1: at the Star here in Frisco conversation going back and forth,
Speaker 1: Will McClay explaining something, Stephen Jones locked in, Jerry Jones listening.
Speaker 1: There's Jason Garrett as well. They got two defensive the
Speaker 1: highest ranking defensive coaches in the room right now to
Speaker 1: kind of discuss what is going on. Picks in for
Speaker 1: the Chargers. We should get that momentarily, Dane, who do
Speaker 1: you think do you have anybody in mind? I mean,
Speaker 1: you're they need safety help. I mean, Derwin James makes
Speaker 1: play of sense right here. Going to be a quarterback. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. The wild card to me right
Speaker 1: now is the quarterback. If he doesn't go here, where's
Speaker 1: he gonna go? Cincinnati? Maybe New eng Engle? Sir, how
Speaker 1: about the about there the patch Just sit there and
Speaker 1: take that guy? Yeah, my god, wouldn't that just piss
Speaker 1: you off? Oh? Sure? But it's like the stuff that happens,
Speaker 1: you know, it's those are the types of things that happened,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're from from what I mean, And
Speaker 1: and it's not okay, this pick is already in so
Speaker 1: really you're talking about Seattle. Yeah, and you're hopeful that
Speaker 1: Seattle doesn't back out of there. But like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: looks like the cowboys are content to sit and just
Speaker 1: make their pick at nineteen. They are. And here's the commissioner.
Speaker 1: Let's go there, we are crush the dreams. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: we go. Let's see no rule reaction in the war room.
Speaker 1: Yet they were that's a handing adam pacifica handing out
Speaker 1: new trade charts right there, so kind of to reflect
Speaker 1: some of the things that were going on. Uh, we'll
Speaker 1: see the end. The defensive coaches still hanging in there
Speaker 1: right now. In the war room. Uh in, But that
Speaker 1: that leads me to believe that, you know that Layton
Speaker 1: vander Esh could be the guy that could be the
Speaker 1: pick here. I've been We've been saying it for how long.
Speaker 1: Layton Vandress is the favorite to go ands. I mean,
Speaker 1: and who who's who's there that I mean, Okay, DJ
Speaker 1: Moore and Calvin Ridley, but it's Rod Marinelli and Chris
Speaker 1: Rochard and the room right now. So well, and you know,
Speaker 1: and let's let's be honest here, they did not they
Speaker 1: were they gambled here. They didn't try and pick up
Speaker 1: the phone. We didn't see them make any type of
Speaker 1: effort to go up if they thought that that that
Speaker 1: they were gonna lose Derwin James. They you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't see Stephen Jones or Will McClay on the phone
Speaker 1: at the time. Uh to uh to um. Maybe facilitate
Speaker 1: some type of trade, but Derwin James, a very talented
Speaker 1: safety from Florida State. Better better to have Los Angeles chargers,
Speaker 1: Better to have Derwin drafted out from in front of
Speaker 1: you than to have him be there and not take him,
Speaker 1: which is something that could happen to I mean, like
Speaker 1: I said, and I know drafts are unpredictable, but this
Speaker 1: team has followed a pretty strict blueprint over the last
Speaker 1: five or so years that they really like to be
Speaker 1: hands on with their first round picks. So I'd rather
Speaker 1: Oh that's an okay, an interesting point from Logan. Green
Speaker 1: Bay's going back up, and that that means the Okay,
Speaker 1: get will McClay on the phone. Here, Uh the packers
Speaker 1: are now they Seattle. Okay, here's green Bay. I bet
Speaker 1: this is Harold Landry. It probably is. This is I
Speaker 1: was about to say, week that makes sense. We forgot
Speaker 1: about Harold Landry and that I keep forgetting about them,
Speaker 1: which Chris Richard and Rod Marinelli are in the room,
Speaker 1: so like that that makes sense too. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I have a feeling that it's our boy
Speaker 1: Lve and I have a feeling that this trade is
Speaker 1: for Harold Landry. Could this trade be for Vanderish If
Speaker 1: you look at I mean again, then playing a three
Speaker 1: four outside, you know need pass rushers. I need only
Speaker 1: not a pass rusher. But uh, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean it's got to be it. They got to feel
Speaker 1: like that Landry could play. Let me see Landry put
Speaker 1: his hand on the ground though. That's kind of his
Speaker 1: that's kind of thing. Did they you think they project
Speaker 1: him to play as a an outside linebacker and he's
Speaker 1: got the bend to do whatever the hell he wants.
Speaker 1: He's a pass rusher. I mean, yeah, put him in space,
Speaker 1: he'll be just fine. He's a good athlete. That makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. And what do we say, Seahawks,
Speaker 1: they're going to move back? Um, Yeah, and that's exactly
Speaker 1: what they did. Let's see what they gave it with
Speaker 1: the Let's see they got a third and a sixth
Speaker 1: from the game Bay. It looks like, yeah, so right
Speaker 1: now Seattle's still not picking on the second round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they got a third and a sixth on that trade,
Speaker 1: according to Dane Burglar, So this again, this puts the
Speaker 1: Packers are on the clock. We're kind of looking at
Speaker 1: some names. I'm thinking about team needs here, cornerback, inside linebacker,
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I mean, could this be it to jump
Speaker 1: up ahead of Dallas, thinking that Dallas is going to
Speaker 1: take a wide receiver? Maybe could they could this be
Speaker 1: obviously they're not watching the war room cam. Yeah that's
Speaker 1: what they think. Yeah, could this be for? Could this
Speaker 1: be for? You know, or Ridley or for more something
Speaker 1: like that, trying to get ahead of Dallas, knowing that
Speaker 1: Dallas needs a wide receiver. Packers at five minutes left
Speaker 1: on the clock. That's got defensive coaches still in handshakes
Speaker 1: all around. Let's see which I mean? You know, I maybe,
Speaker 1: but again using the same logic that we use for
Speaker 1: why the Cowboys weren't going to pick a receiver at nineteen,
Speaker 1: and I think with all these handshakes, I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to say that it's not going to be a
Speaker 1: receiver at nineteen. Yeah. Um, I don't know why the
Speaker 1: Packers would make this trade. Again, like you talk about
Speaker 1: how deep this receiver classes, you talk about the fact
Speaker 1: that both of the top two are still on the
Speaker 1: board right now. Um yeah. Like I said, hey, I've
Speaker 1: already been really wrong once already because because I thought
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was going to New Orleans. But I bet
Speaker 1: this as a defender the Packers are about to draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and again Landry makes sense. He might have won fourteen
Speaker 1: yeah when the Packers are there, Yeah, yeah, they might have.
Speaker 1: They might have lost out. We kind of had to
Speaker 1: think about with Davenport, you know, as being there, so
Speaker 1: uh uh you know, we'll see if maybe maybe the
Speaker 1: packers were looking at a corner here. Well, we'll see
Speaker 1: if h we'll see if if in fact that that
Speaker 1: is the case, maybe this is where Alexander Jr. Alexander
Speaker 1: Mike Hughes. Maybe. Yeah, so we'll we'll see, uh if
Speaker 1: in fact that we talk about Landry, but it might
Speaker 1: be Now okay, we'll talk about the size for for
Speaker 1: Alexander Dane. I mean that's kind of always been the
Speaker 1: packer you know, is a guy as he is. He
Speaker 1: you know, it's shorter corners right to tend to not
Speaker 1: go that direction. They have a premium on length um
Speaker 1: for the corner position. They want size uh to match up,
Speaker 1: and so Alexander's not a big guy. That's really the
Speaker 1: one knock against him durability uh and just his size.
Speaker 1: So it might be a little surprised. But again we
Speaker 1: have a new general manager, a new guy in Green
Speaker 1: Bay making the decisions. So I think there's were a
Speaker 1: little bit of uncharted arders here in terms of maybe
Speaker 1: what they're targeting at the cornerback position. Okay, the packers,
Speaker 1: they they pick up the they pick up the eighteenth
Speaker 1: overall pick from the Seahawks. They send Seattle a seventh
Speaker 1: round pick and uh so uh, I didn't kick up
Speaker 1: the rest of the trade there went pretty quick while
Speaker 1: I was looking out. So we'll get that one for
Speaker 1: you though. But the Packers pick is in this again
Speaker 1: is a pick that they got from from Seattle. The
Speaker 1: Cowboy war room looks very excited like they got their guy.
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli, Chris Rochard in the room. We'll see if
Speaker 1: we think the Packers are probably going to take a
Speaker 1: corner here. But we've talked about Landry. They could use
Speaker 1: some rush help on the outside as an outside linebacker,
Speaker 1: but cornerback also makes a lot of sense. They want more,
Speaker 1: that they want more. They have bodies, but they you know,
Speaker 1: they still need to get more guys. Uh you know, Rollins,
Speaker 1: Goodson Randall had been disappointing. And they will they will
Speaker 1: draft a corner high and this is where in fact
Speaker 1: that they can can get that guy. So we will.
Speaker 1: We'll see when the commissioner walks to the podium, if
Speaker 1: you again look at the Cowboys or just reading the
Speaker 1: high fives all around, high fives all around. Interesting thought
Speaker 1: to me that Chris Roshard is the newest member of
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and he's the guy that they have
Speaker 1: in here with Rod Marinelli. Yeah, obviously they think the
Speaker 1: world of him. Former defensive coordinator. Just I don't know,
Speaker 1: an interesting thought. Well, here's the pick. The commissioner is
Speaker 1: walking to the podium. Well, there it is JayR. Alexander, Jr. Alexander.
Speaker 1: He is from Louisville. He's a corner. We talked about
Speaker 1: the length is something that might be a little bit
Speaker 1: of a question for the Packers, but uh not or
Speaker 1: for the draft, but not the case of the Packers.
Speaker 1: That's a team that used to have some size, speed
Speaker 1: length problems with the corners, right, and I always wanted
Speaker 1: the bigger corners and stuff like that. So he reminds
Speaker 1: me a lot of Joe Hayden. A little undersize, but
Speaker 1: he's a good athlete, plays the ball well. He's scrappy,
Speaker 1: which I feel like we use every time for under
Speaker 1: size corners, but he is. That's just that, that's who
Speaker 1: he is, that type of corner I like to fit. Again.
Speaker 1: A new a new general manager in Green Bay, So
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of changing the way we think
Speaker 1: of how they think at the cornerback position. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys all right, are now on the clock, and
Speaker 1: that's presented by ublow Yow blow on the clock on
Speaker 1: the clock. There you go, good memory, Thank you. You
Speaker 1: got your Harold Landry's on the board. There's two. You
Speaker 1: got your picks and Harold Landry and Layton vander esh
Speaker 1: And honestly, if you told me at the start of
Speaker 1: night that Harold Landry would be there, I would be
Speaker 1: beside myself. But I can't shake this feeling like that's
Speaker 1: not going to be the pick. Yeah, based on what
Speaker 1: you told me earlier today, which is that he's kind
Speaker 1: of a fallback, I think I think he's I think
Speaker 1: there's two fallback guys or fallback position. I think Lander
Speaker 1: was in a fallback position. I think an offensive lineman
Speaker 1: was in a fallback position. Doesn't look like they're going
Speaker 1: to go in this direction. But there's no receiver off
Speaker 1: the board at this point. It's true. Yeah, Well, and
Speaker 1: I mean you're absolutely right, which I think is it's
Speaker 1: not super surprising, but it is interesting given how much
Speaker 1: we talked about receiver that neither one of them went.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's clearly a defender. Yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant for that, for that thought, but I don't
Speaker 1: think that's going to be the case. No, not not
Speaker 1: with not with two defensive coaches in the room. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, well they're all they're talking to their player
Speaker 1: right now, but there's uh, there's still six minutes on
Speaker 1: the clock. The camera now is flashed to the war room.
Speaker 1: Guys are all and ladies as well, very happy with
Speaker 1: the situation. We'll see. We think it's Leyden Vandersh, the
Speaker 1: linebacker from Boise States. David mentioned that though Harold Landry
Speaker 1: still is on the board, but we think it's going
Speaker 1: to be vander Ish, so we'll get ready for that.
Speaker 1: We've kind of talked all along Dane again, the strengths
Speaker 1: of Leyden Vanderish if in fact that he has the pick.
Speaker 1: You want players that match up in three areas, the tape,
Speaker 1: the traits, the production, and I think Layton Vandersch has
Speaker 1: those three. He doesn't have that extensive resume. He's not
Speaker 1: a four year starter. He's a one year guy. But
Speaker 1: he's an ascending player. I've said that a lot and
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with it. He is an ascending player who
Speaker 1: is getting better and better with the more reps. We've
Speaker 1: talked about a guy who has been deemed with the
Speaker 1: injury stuff. We don't believe that's an issue for this team.
Speaker 1: But he's a big, good sized athlete who can run
Speaker 1: and he's getting better with take on skills. He can cover.
Speaker 1: He's an every down player, and I think why the
Speaker 1: Cowboys value him so highly is because he can play
Speaker 1: the MIC. He can play the will, can play the sam,
Speaker 1: can be interchangeable. You don't need to take him off
Speaker 1: the field in any situation. So I think it's pretty
Speaker 1: pretty quickly he's going to see the field and again
Speaker 1: he's staying on the field, not a guy you need
Speaker 1: to take off in certain situations. Well, it looks like
Speaker 1: that on the stage at the AT and T Stadium
Speaker 1: that Drew Pearson and Michael Irvin are whooping up the
Speaker 1: crowd here, getting everybody really fired up for the pick.
Speaker 1: As again they got two of the three eighty eight
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly they got and the third one's tweeting right now,
Speaker 1: well he's not doing anything, Yeah, bring him in absolutely
Speaker 1: So Yeah, the Cowboys there there, Rod Mirnoi is on
Speaker 1: the phone with their selection. Again, we feel like that
Speaker 1: it's gonna be latent. Vanderesh U the linebacker from Boise State.
Speaker 1: They're passing the phone around to make sure that everybody
Speaker 1: gets a chance to say, hello, Uh, does this if
Speaker 1: it is? If it is Vanderesh, do we feel like
Speaker 1: up possibilities tomorrow wide receiver? I mean, and I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: we don't officially know. I'm I think it's a good
Speaker 1: educated guest that it's Layton vander esch Um. So it doesn't. Okay,
Speaker 1: we didn't think Harold Landry would be there. We didn't
Speaker 1: think Derwin James would fall that far. Right, Well, we
Speaker 1: had an idea we talked about. You're right, James, you
Speaker 1: said that, Yeah, correct, Yeah, I did not think Derwin
Speaker 1: James would fall that far. Yeah. Um, But it's the
Speaker 1: same result. It's I mean, it was a different it's
Speaker 1: always a different way of getting there than you think,
Speaker 1: but it's at the end of the day, it's the
Speaker 1: same result we expected, which is that linebacker is the
Speaker 1: most pressing need on this team. Yeah, they had a
Speaker 1: guy that they liked in this range, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they want to trade up for a receiver tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But either way, they felt better about addressing those other
Speaker 1: spots with their other picks than uh not dealing with linebacker.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I mean I would pick Harold
Speaker 1: Landry in this spot. But I understand the logic of
Speaker 1: getting this linebacker and just solving that problem. Again, this
Speaker 1: is a guy whose arrow is pointing upward in terms
Speaker 1: of his development, right, Um, so I get the logic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his I think I think his best trade trade is
Speaker 1: his ability to play with range. I really do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you know, there's no question this guy can
Speaker 1: get sideline to sideline, you know, and they and they
Speaker 1: have got to figure out some things that at the
Speaker 1: linebacker spot. And now will this allow him they play
Speaker 1: him at Mike linebacker? Will this allow them to move uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Jalen Smith to Sam linebacker? It could allow
Speaker 1: you to have a little bit of fun. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: Jaylen at Sam, you can play him as a situational
Speaker 1: pass rushing uh. And that's the big thing here is
Speaker 1: it's not that you don't have confidence that Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: can become a good player, but this allows you to
Speaker 1: help him. The old cliche Garrett loves to use is
Speaker 1: put your players in the best position to be successful. Well,
Speaker 1: it puts Jalen Smith in a great position. If you're
Speaker 1: not counting on him to play a one hundred percent
Speaker 1: of the snaps. Yeah, well we're still waiting for him.
Speaker 1: They're still on the clock by anybody, Hublow. That's the
Speaker 1: fun yeah, which shouts out you blow blow, Absolutely, they're
Speaker 1: getting their money sort of. Well, yeah, it's a fun
Speaker 1: thing about the draft. Like they made their they made
Speaker 1: their pick fifty what feels like fifteen minutes ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're still officially on the clock. So just the
Speaker 1: fun discrepancies. Yeah, well, we're just a good little way.
Speaker 1: Can we just Layton Vandersch is not Bobby Carpenter. No, okay,
Speaker 1: can we stop with this. It's just it's a terrible
Speaker 1: lazy comparison that we need to stop right now. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: whether he that's the pick here at nineteen or if
Speaker 1: he goes in three picks, uh, he is not Bobby Carpenter,
Speaker 1: So we can stop with that. Yeah, well that's uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you on that one, Dane. I
Speaker 1: mean I think that's a that's a really an unfortunate
Speaker 1: this This guy's is really a better player. I mean again,
Speaker 1: I you know, Bobby Carpenter had his problems with take
Speaker 1: on and stuff like that, but he didn't move and
Speaker 1: run and react like this guy. You know, if it's
Speaker 1: vander Esh, who's your starting Mike on September ninth at Carolina.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's gonna be Vandersch. I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see what they're doing. Okay, the picks in.
Speaker 1: Let's see if the commissioner nobody's using more of their clients.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, You'll make everybody wait. If they're
Speaker 1: gonna make you wait, you figure out times to you know,
Speaker 1: you make everybody else wait. But here it goes. We're
Speaker 1: getting that angle again. The commissioner will be heading to
Speaker 1: the podium. We think the pick is going to be
Speaker 1: Layton Vandersh. No, now we're talking more with some more
Speaker 1: commentary here about the about the potential pick um. We
Speaker 1: don't think it is any other. But I tweeted two
Speaker 1: days ago if the Cowboys had a chance of Laton Vandersh,
Speaker 1: they weren't gonna pass. Yeah. I don't think that, and
Speaker 1: I still feel that way. Here we are waiting the
Speaker 1: final seconds until the pick is announced Layton Vandrush is
Speaker 1: on the board. I get it, I understand it. I do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: see this was one. I mean, it just seemed like
Speaker 1: everything was lining up for this pick. Yeah, it just
Speaker 1: seemed like that. You know, you talk about the workout,
Speaker 1: the thirty visit the scouts like this one. This one
Speaker 1: was the one where the coaches and scouts all work together. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to the podium now, I think Commissioner is
Speaker 1: on his way, so let's fakecounts. I'm over him joining
Speaker 1: remember bingo, there he is, Layton vandersh He heads to
Speaker 1: the h he heads to the podium to kind of
Speaker 1: kind of ironic that um, you know, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean it wasn't true, but we I mean so wide open.
Speaker 1: We had no idea what was going to happen. But
Speaker 1: the Cowboys wind up with a guy that they targeted.
Speaker 1: God when when was the first time we said this
Speaker 1: dude's name Valentine's Day? Yeah, I mean it was a
Speaker 1: while ago. Yeah, we we've we've talked about him quite
Speaker 1: a bit. There's been a lot of back and forth.
Speaker 1: There was some I think that Dane myself, you know,
Speaker 1: watching the tape on him. Initially, Dane, I don't want
Speaker 1: to speak for you, but initially there was some questions
Speaker 1: about him, and you know, you really had to dig
Speaker 1: in dive in trying for aground a little bit more
Speaker 1: about him, you know, and it's later on played very well.
Speaker 1: There's some questions about this medical we we talked about
Speaker 1: that earlier. The Cowboys were not worried about that, Dane.
Speaker 1: You brought it up with its twenty five teams that
Speaker 1: had passed him, five that said he was off their board.
Speaker 1: So uh, you know that's ah, they made the pick,
Speaker 1: and uh, it looks like a lot of folks in Boise,
Speaker 1: Idaho are very happy about the Layton Vanderation. This is
Speaker 1: a team that drafted kids from boy Boyse, South, Layton, Orlando,
Speaker 1: Scandrid's gone, but Leyton vander esh now joins Tyrone Crawford
Speaker 1: and DeMarcus Lawrence and Boyse. How about a coach, a
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. Yeah, don't frek. Well, he didn't go to Boise,
Speaker 1: he went to Idaho. But yeah, oh oh oh, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. I'm thinking Scott Nahan. No, you're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore one percent. Uh yeah, no, it's Boise, Boise
Speaker 1: South here in Texas. But like I said, like, hey,
Speaker 1: being one hundred percent honest, I liked Harold Landry a lot.
Speaker 1: I thought he'd fit a need. You can make an
Speaker 1: argument he's the best player on the board. But this
Speaker 1: pick makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's a lend of quality. I mean, the dudes
Speaker 1: an athletic freak. Honestly, I mean him and Tremaine Edmonds
Speaker 1: might as well be interchangeable. I don't think I'm not
Speaker 1: supposing too much to say this guy doesn't get as
Speaker 1: much hype as Edmonds because he's white. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: got some freaky measurables. You could look at playing being
Speaker 1: a one year starter as a downside. You could look
Speaker 1: at as an upside that he's just scratching the surface
Speaker 1: of what he can be. You put that athleticism with
Speaker 1: more experience working with a guy like Sean Lee all
Speaker 1: the time. Yea. So on top of the fact that
Speaker 1: he's a fantastic athlete, he fills what I think we
Speaker 1: would all agree is the biggest need on this roster. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, I might I probably would have taken
Speaker 1: Harold Landry. But I don't have a single problem with
Speaker 1: this pick, and I don't think anybody should be surprised
Speaker 1: by it. And what has been the name that has
Speaker 1: been floating around as a comparison with this guy, Brian Urlacker,
Speaker 1: and when those two names are connected. First of all,
Speaker 1: a little unfair to Vanreesh to be paired with a
Speaker 1: Hall of famer. But if I thought he was Chad Greenway,
Speaker 1: my set not bad. Yeah. Yeah, and Chad Greenway had
Speaker 1: her first round pick, a great career, yeah in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: But again, you liked this player because he could play
Speaker 1: all three positions. He can stay on the field and coverage.
Speaker 1: He needs to get better with the take on skills,
Speaker 1: but with his length, with his power, you think he
Speaker 1: can do it. It's just it's more know how than ability.
Speaker 1: And so I'm okay with this pick. I think I
Speaker 1: would have went probably with a receiver. But I understand
Speaker 1: the thinking we've said all along, linebacker, wide receiver. They
Speaker 1: that's for the direction they probably want to go. They
Speaker 1: get their linebacker here, They're gonna most likely draft from
Speaker 1: wide receiver tomorrow. Yeah, I think so. In my mock draft,
Speaker 1: actually thought, you know, because Stephen Jones was talking about
Speaker 1: they were like two safeties. So we'll see if in
Speaker 1: facted and h tomorrow at pick fifty. Now the draft continues,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not We're not done by any means
Speaker 1: here and no, not at all. And they and the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions with the twentieth pick are on the clock
Speaker 1: right now. We kind of feel like though that the Lions,
Speaker 1: this could very well be uh, one of the offensive linemans.
Speaker 1: This is where Daniels We've talked about him, right, Dane
Speaker 1: as being a you know, yeah, offensive or defensive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, could go Tavin Bryant here, they need that
Speaker 1: three technique upfield. Pennant there you go, could go with
Speaker 1: you on the other side of the ball on offense,
Speaker 1: could go with you know, the interior offensive line. Daniels. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is where you start talking about Hernandez win. Uh.
Speaker 1: A lot of teams like rag now he could be
Speaker 1: in that mix. So Detroit, Uh certainly, Uh, look a
Speaker 1: good chance they go into trenches. Yeah. Well, and then
Speaker 1: you look at their needs they've always so they've talked about.
Speaker 1: You're you're absolutely right, Dane with you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of the offensive line have been projected here, but defensive end,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Uh. You know, they lost a Helodi Nada
Speaker 1: in free agency and he was not idea. They didn't
Speaker 1: sign the steven Or Ricky Jane or Dial after visits.
Speaker 1: So you know, here's the team. They might need one
Speaker 1: maybe two big guys in the middle. But I I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like though that You're absolutely right. There's
Speaker 1: just too many quality offensive lineman, you know, with the guards,
Speaker 1: the three guards, and in the center with with Daniels
Speaker 1: and the potential of him playing center or playing guard
Speaker 1: as well. So I'll be a really interest. I know
Speaker 1: he's he's high on my on my board for a guy.
Speaker 1: So we'll see that they say the pick is in
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions, we will in fact see who
Speaker 1: it is. As you can see the Cowboy war room,
Speaker 1: guys have kind of dispersed. They're gonna figure some things out,
Speaker 1: and do you come back your board in front of you.
Speaker 1: I do, Who's who's the highest rated player available at
Speaker 1: this point, the highest rated player injury on my board
Speaker 1: would be if I did my top if I think
Speaker 1: it would be Daniels. If I looked at my over Landry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: over Landry, Okay, I mean I'm to get my if
Speaker 1: I got too many pieces of paper in front of me, Dane,
Speaker 1: that's my problem right now is what we got here.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think if I looked at my top
Speaker 1: fifty that that he would be that land that Uh,
Speaker 1: let me see here real quick. Gosh, dang terrible radio
Speaker 1: I'm doing right now, dan No, I look, Landry, Ridley Daniels.
Speaker 1: Those are kind of my top three at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got I've actually got I do well. I've got
Speaker 1: to be honest with I've got DJ Moore still available,
Speaker 1: I've got I do have Landry above Daniels. So I've
Speaker 1: got more Landry and Lamar Jackson, Ridley and Jackson. I
Speaker 1: have them all kind of in a little group there. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we'll see you mentioned Lamar Jackson. Where's he gonna fall? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean the next two picks that Detroit, we have
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Baltimore. One of those two. How can New
Speaker 1: England not take him? You know what I'm saying? What
Speaker 1: about the next two picks though? I Could he get
Speaker 1: past Cincinnati and Baltimore? Though? Is that in Baltimore? I
Speaker 1: mean Baltimore? Might I think? I mean could Baltimore will
Speaker 1: take to the selections in right now, Commissioners at the podium,
Speaker 1: Let's go to him there. Yeah, whoa wow. With Daniels
Speaker 1: on the board, they took Frank Ragnew. That's that's a
Speaker 1: New England. That's that's a former GM that doesn't care.
Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't care what I think. No, of course,
Speaker 1: he does not care what I think at all. What's
Speaker 1: funny is I ran that name by someone on the
Speaker 1: football side of this building, and I was using it
Speaker 1: as like an example of what would be a surprising
Speaker 1: pick and he was like, oh no, that's that's not surprising.
Speaker 1: That's definitely gonna happen. And I was like, really, okay,
Speaker 1: So it just you know, the the the media and
Speaker 1: the league does not always line up, that's for sure. No.
Speaker 1: I I was not a big fan of Ragnew I game,
Speaker 1: but I think a third run grade I wasn't either myself.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, I had him with the fourth Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so I get why teams like him with
Speaker 1: the versatility guard center. Sure, he's a tough guy, we
Speaker 1: know that. You almost like him more for his makeup,
Speaker 1: his leadership more than anything else. That the natural and
Speaker 1: tangibles that he brings. So those are off the charts.
Speaker 1: But just talking about the film, film was I didn't
Speaker 1: think the film was any good. I mean not for
Speaker 1: the twentieth overall pick, and you had a chance, you know,
Speaker 1: and you're you're telling me you had a chance to
Speaker 1: draft Daniels, who absolutely is one of the best center
Speaker 1: prospects I've seen Frank rag Now he's playing against Alabama
Speaker 1: playing guard. He's not playing very well. You know, he's
Speaker 1: playing center. He's a belly to belly blocker. He absorbs
Speaker 1: the defender. He kind of walls off in the play.
Speaker 1: He doesn't get any movement one on one. I didn't
Speaker 1: see the lack of strength really hurts him, gets thrown
Speaker 1: off blocks. He works hard to get a stalemate, he
Speaker 1: stays after his blocks, but he's just not successful all
Speaker 1: the time. And I thought he struggled to move his
Speaker 1: feet when he hooked up on blocks, jump on inside.
Speaker 1: Majority of his snaps for there's balance, but there's those
Speaker 1: times where he ends up on the ground. Right. I
Speaker 1: just didn't I push shove guy. I was not. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm watching games South Carolina, Auburn, Texas A and m Alabama.
Speaker 1: I just didn't see it with this guy. So this
Speaker 1: was this would be one of those picks where I went, WHOA,
Speaker 1: you know, what's up with that? Am I wrong about him? Dane? No?
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Okay. I think the way you
Speaker 1: summed him up is and you watch him and it's Yes,
Speaker 1: I think he did get the job done a lot
Speaker 1: of the times. But it wasn't pretty, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean he sloppy, technique was off, the balance was off.
Speaker 1: So again, the versatility, guard center, versatilities. Why you like him.
Speaker 1: The intangibles are off the charts, toughness, leadership, you love
Speaker 1: that about him. But again, the tape did not show
Speaker 1: a top twenty player and that's where he went here
Speaker 1: and the Lions took him right under the nose of
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Yeah, I mocked him to the Bengals of
Speaker 1: twenty one that wanted so at twenty one though, I
Speaker 1: mean Daniels was sitting there in the laugh. Is that
Speaker 1: the direction they go? Do they want to go? And
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez? I think they liked Will Laton Vandrush quite
Speaker 1: a bit. Sure, but he's gone obviously, Um so what
Speaker 1: did Bengals do? Now? Again? I come back to Lamar Jackson, Uh, Cincinnati, Baltimore,
Speaker 1: New England. The next three picks are all possibilities for
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I think this. I think the Patriots, it's
Speaker 1: amazing they're sitting there and they and they love Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: They love I mean, I know for a fact that
Speaker 1: they love Lamar Jackson. And there and they and there
Speaker 1: was talk about them, oh maybe having to come up
Speaker 1: and get a guy. They're just sitting there buying their
Speaker 1: time right now, and he very well could fall right
Speaker 1: in their lap. So but David, he thought about rag
Speaker 1: now while we like I said, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that's that's one that would throw you as throw me
Speaker 1: as a surprise. But I don't think it surprises people
Speaker 1: in the NFL community. And when you talk about him,
Speaker 1: it was going right in this range of either Detroit
Speaker 1: or Cincinnati. I heard him linked to both. Minnesota thirty
Speaker 1: was a team I think, Dane we talked about maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit, what about the fact that the war
Speaker 1: rooms once again gone dark. Yeah, the war room in
Speaker 1: Ford Center here at the start. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Take me through that, Brian, How does that h What
Speaker 1: happens in the war room after you make your pick?
Speaker 1: I mean, guys will I mean guys will bathroom breaks
Speaker 1: and kind of like, you know, take a breath, and
Speaker 1: guys will keep working the phones and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But they might be talking about who's left on the board,
Speaker 1: and they might and they might be looking at a
Speaker 1: situation maybe to get ready for tomorrow, and you throw
Speaker 1: some chum in the water to see if if in fact,
Speaker 1: you can get somebody to buy it on this. But
Speaker 1: it looks like that Cincinnati's pick is in again. I've
Speaker 1: always get you that the commissioners at the podium, let's
Speaker 1: go and get the Bengals pick at one twenty one
Speaker 1: Ohio State. So the big ten center comes off the board,
Speaker 1: maybe not the one we thought would go first. Wow,
Speaker 1: this this to me and I man and shouts out,
Speaker 1: shouts out my homie Catherine Terrell, who nailed that pick?
Speaker 1: Did she have that one? Yeah? I believe unless she
Speaker 1: changed her last minute? Did she change? Well? Back to
Speaker 1: back centers are off the board now. And you guys
Speaker 1: always laugh at me when I said Paul Brown, who
Speaker 1: the founder of the Bengals, was an Ohio State guy,
Speaker 1: you know, coached Ohio State. And then I say, oh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna take an Ohio State player, And you guys
Speaker 1: kind of laugh at me at that. But anyway, uh,
Speaker 1: Ohio teams love drafting. Cleveland doesn't until today. So yeah, really,
Speaker 1: I feel like I could have sworn they'd done it
Speaker 1: before fans get all over. The Browns were not drafting
Speaker 1: Ohio state players, but they did today obviously at number
Speaker 1: four with Denzel Awards. So I know if some fans
Speaker 1: were upset, it wasn't Bradley Chubb in Cleveland. But anymore,
Speaker 1: we're very happy that they're guy well Billy. Billy Price
Speaker 1: is coming off a peck injury, right, Dane, Yeah, slight
Speaker 1: Tarati is peck from the combine. I'm sitting there waiting
Speaker 1: for him to put up forty reps on the bench
Speaker 1: and he got three because he had a slight tear.
Speaker 1: But he sent out a letter to all every team saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be ready for training camp. It's not a
Speaker 1: huge deal. And so Bengals are buying what they're selling.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be ready. He's gonna be ready
Speaker 1: for training camp. Yeah. And so Billy Price is the
Speaker 1: is the and here's the Titans. The Titans now are
Speaker 1: on the clock. There was a trade. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: get Harold Landry. I'm might keep saying Harold Landry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: getting up makes sense to get in front of New England,
Speaker 1: to get the pass rusher. I think that. And who's
Speaker 1: the gem of New England? John Robins, John Robinson, former
Speaker 1: New England staffer, who Baltimore went back twice? Yeah, so Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Baltimore is acting like very much Bill Walsh back in
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, kept moving back, moving back, moving back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, here's Titans and Dane. You feel like that
Speaker 1: this pick will be Harold Landry or I think it's
Speaker 1: Harold Landry here. Um, you know they the Titans need
Speaker 1: pass rush help, Derek Morgan getting up there in age,
Speaker 1: Brian Rackpost, same thing. They need a young guy to
Speaker 1: come in and groom, and that three four hybrid scheme
Speaker 1: they run in Tennessee. Harold Landry think could be a
Speaker 1: perfect fit. I'm not sure they expected him to be
Speaker 1: available at this point, but to move up two spots
Speaker 1: or three spots, it probably only took you know, maybe
Speaker 1: a third or a fourth to make that move, right.
Speaker 1: I like this. If that's who the pick is, I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of the pick. I mean, if it's
Speaker 1: not Harold Landry, James Daniels as a possibility, they could
Speaker 1: use some interior offensive line help. They like some of
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks, but again Hubbard here. I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know Landry's on the board, but that
Speaker 1: no way, what about no, No, I understand Landry's on board.
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing another name out there for a guy
Speaker 1: that's a rush in. I love Landry, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't like to fit. I'd be surprised.
Speaker 1: But you know, Hubbard, I don't know how he fits
Speaker 1: their scheme because they play m as an outside linebacker,
Speaker 1: a guy that ran a four to nine. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I Harold, Landry makes too much sense here.
Speaker 1: Tennessee plays a three four. They play a hybrid three
Speaker 1: to four bass, but it's a hybrid down put him
Speaker 1: put put Harold. Know we all love Landry, don't. I
Speaker 1: mean we've we've thay, we've thrown names out there before.
Speaker 1: It's true, you know, true. So let's see what in fact.
Speaker 1: But I agree, I don't I don't think that they
Speaker 1: felt like that. Okay, could they go with a wide receiver?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Corey Davis was a pick last year,
Speaker 1: a high pick last year. You trade up for Calvin Ridley,
Speaker 1: DJ Moore? Maybe you think in Dane, could they go
Speaker 1: wide receiver here. They went wide receiver in the top
Speaker 1: five last year. Yeah, um, and I know he did.
Speaker 1: Corey Davis didn't have a great rookie year, but be
Speaker 1: surprised to see them do it two years in a row.
Speaker 1: H Richard Matthews. Um, I don't know. I would be
Speaker 1: surprised by that, but you never know. It's possible. Another
Speaker 1: just be for Evans. Could they be trained for an
Speaker 1: inside linebacker that there's a good name that just saw.
Speaker 1: You know, Harold Danger makes the most sense. Rashaun Evans
Speaker 1: probably would be option B right in my mind. You
Speaker 1: know that makes to get in front of New England
Speaker 1: to get Rashaun Evans. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so keep an eye on that one. We threw out
Speaker 1: names like I say, Landry as a rusher, We've thrown
Speaker 1: out uh we touch it all on the Steelers dealing
Speaker 1: Martavis Bryant. It dealt him to the Raiders for the
Speaker 1: seventy ninth pick. Raiders making moves. Yeah, Raiders is trying
Speaker 1: to John Gruden. He's he's he's gonna he's gonna just
Speaker 1: move around the board and try and do things. So
Speaker 1: this is that the seventy. Okay, here's here's what the Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's just a two fifteen. Are they actually fourth
Speaker 1: round pick? Right? Yeah? What numbers that fourth round pick
Speaker 1: for the Titans one twenty five? One twenty five, So
Speaker 1: one twenty five goes to uh the to the Ravens
Speaker 1: that now belongs to Baltimore. And so that made the trade,
Speaker 1: Like you say, picks in the Titans. The names that
Speaker 1: we've mentioned Evans of, we've mentioned Landry, and we've talked
Speaker 1: about a little bit I throughout Hubbard is just a
Speaker 1: throwout guy potentially, and then also we talked about maybe
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. There's both of them are available, of
Speaker 1: the two that we feel like our first round grades
Speaker 1: or that I feel like our first round grades with
Speaker 1: DJ Moore and Calvin Ridley. So let's see if the
Speaker 1: commissioner is making his way. It looks like he is.
Speaker 1: So let's go to podium for the Tennessee Titans pick.
Speaker 1: It'll be one twenty two. Hey, there you go, brought us.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that name. That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: It's okay, So Rashaun Evans is the pick. I threw
Speaker 1: out a name earlier on that it was you guys
Speaker 1: looked at me when I said Hubbard, You guys, whoa No,
Speaker 1: Hubbard didn't make sense, but Evans made. You're a spot
Speaker 1: on because that's one of the needs of this team
Speaker 1: for the Titans inside linebacker. Sure, and they're trying to
Speaker 1: get They went in front of the Patriots and make
Speaker 1: sure they got their guy. I think I think Evans
Speaker 1: would have been the pick, yeah, the Patriots. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I feel smart because I mocked Evans to
Speaker 1: Dallas at nineteen. So I was only three off. That's fine,
Speaker 1: that's good, Nothing wrong with that. Why we still have
Speaker 1: no wide receiver off the board. Why which that doesn't
Speaker 1: surprise me. No, what does surprise me is that Harold
Speaker 1: Landry is just plummeting down this draft board. But what
Speaker 1: did I say? No, I think it's because he doesn't
Speaker 1: play the run very well. I mean, I get, but
Speaker 1: you're a liability if you can't play the run. Of
Speaker 1: course you are. You're a rookie. Rookie defensive ends don't
Speaker 1: play the run any better than rookie receivers run the
Speaker 1: full route tree. But it's not a case like Okay,
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport. He has the size, strength, profile, where he's
Speaker 1: going to get better in that area, Harold Andry's not
Speaker 1: getting any bigger. You know, I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: no how thing. I think it's a just a size potential,
Speaker 1: strength potential type of deal. Where again, is he I
Speaker 1: guess you said, have to measure how much of a
Speaker 1: of a warrior is it going to be? How much
Speaker 1: of a concern is it gonna be? Is gonna cost
Speaker 1: you games? It gonna cost you first downs? I think
Speaker 1: a lot of teams are thinking that this makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense hearing you say this. It makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense for why the Cowboys didn't want him
Speaker 1: at nineteen, but again for a three or four team,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. Just just let let me
Speaker 1: have him, let me let me go, let me do that.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Patriots will feel that way. Well, this, this
Speaker 1: to me is now the I'm fascinated by this pick
Speaker 1: now at one twenty three. I'm fascinated by where the
Speaker 1: direction that the New England Patriots are gonna good they
Speaker 1: go Lamar Jackson they love him? And do they? I
Speaker 1: think they do? I really do. I mean, and just again,
Speaker 1: I've got some guys, I've got connections and then and
Speaker 1: it's like they talk about him and like, why would
Speaker 1: you not select him? I mean they're like why, you know,
Speaker 1: they're looking at the other quarterbacks, they see the first
Speaker 1: quarterback go, they say Baker Mayfield go, and they're like going,
Speaker 1: what what? Right? Okay? You know, and so this is
Speaker 1: a team that thinks different than everyone else. I could
Speaker 1: be dead wrong about this. It's amazing. You know, you
Speaker 1: have to make picks when you're in the Super Bowl everything,
Speaker 1: and you have a guy named this is a pick
Speaker 1: that they got from the Rams. Do you write for
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks? Fascinating to think, you know, do you make
Speaker 1: this pick to secure your future? Like we thought what
Speaker 1: the Saints were doing or what they've done before with
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, or if you could draft a guy who
Speaker 1: can help you right now? That's some say do you
Speaker 1: you let him sit? You think you could give him
Speaker 1: at thirty one? Do you think you can you can wait?
Speaker 1: Who knows you may wait? I mean it the same
Speaker 1: logic applies to twenty three as it did at one.
Speaker 1: Don't play around if if if you want a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you're taking it here. And they didn't have to. They
Speaker 1: didn't have to trade for this guy. No, but but
Speaker 1: remember the Titans traded ahead of the Patriots because they
Speaker 1: thought they were going Rashaun Evans. Yeah, so Titans didn't
Speaker 1: think they were gonna take Lamar Jackson. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if other teams or if the Patriots
Speaker 1: could be like, oh, we lost our lineback, we might
Speaker 1: as well take a quarterback. Yeah. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: thinking that. Yeah, it's I would not be surprised by
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson here. But at the same time, could they
Speaker 1: take on these offensive lineman? Could they take could they
Speaker 1: take Daniels? When Hernando? Okay, well, how about Connor Williamson?
Speaker 1: I mean you had Colton Mill I believe mocked to
Speaker 1: these guys, didn't you, Right, But he's off the board obviously.
Speaker 1: Who's playing receiver for these dudes? Edelman's coming back from
Speaker 1: ACL and they got quarterrel Patterson. Yeah, how's that? I mean,
Speaker 1: get the best receiver in the draft? How about this? Well?
Speaker 1: How about this though? How about the relationship between Nick
Speaker 1: Saban and and who doesn't Nick Saban have a good
Speaker 1: relationship with him at Belichicker? No, I know, I mean
Speaker 1: he's gonna know all about about Ridley. So so okay, Well,
Speaker 1: you know we've got the patrel called. Hey, we've got
Speaker 1: some secret audio from the Layton vander Esch pick uh
Speaker 1: kick Garrison executive pruser's got that force kick. Go ahead
Speaker 1: with that, please, Layton Will m clay with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: What's up, brother, got somebody wants to talk to you?
Speaker 1: Not all right? This is Jerry Jones with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Hey man, good to be talking to you again. And
Speaker 1: we're all we're all excited. Uh, we're getting ready to
Speaker 1: turn your card in. And so we were having a
Speaker 1: little fun here and well, I'll tell you what. You
Speaker 1: have had a real distinguished trail to get where you are.
Speaker 1: But we're sure excited about where you can go. It's
Speaker 1: your potential. It's got us so excited. I am so
Speaker 1: fun for this. Well, you you're now standing young man,
Speaker 1: and you tell your parents that they've done a great
Speaker 1: job with you. And when you get here, we gotta
Speaker 1: do do even more with you when we get you here.
Speaker 1: But we're proud to have you on the team. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be drafting here. We'll turn the card in just
Speaker 1: a minute. Here's coach Garry. Thank you, Thank you, so
Speaker 1: much Layton, Hey, coach, congratulations, man, thank you so much. Hey, well,
Speaker 1: we are really excited. I am to flely speak us
Speaker 1: right now. Well, it's a great day for you, but
Speaker 1: it's a great day for us too, And uh can't
Speaker 1: wait to get to work. You ready to go? I'm
Speaker 1: so ready? Let's go. Good. I talked to your coat
Speaker 1: for a long time today and uh he said everything
Speaker 1: we already knew, and uh, I can't wait to uh
Speaker 1: get you in this building and get you to work.
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm excited. Okay, I'm gonna hand the phone
Speaker 1: to Rod Marinelli. Congratulations, thank you. Hey, sud Marinelli here,
Speaker 1: Hey you fired up? What I'm so excited? Yeah, worked out,
Speaker 1: no idea, man, work. So excited to have you and
Speaker 1: what you're bringing to us. And get yourself ready to go?
Speaker 1: All right, get ready to go. I'm so ready to go.
Speaker 1: All right, buddy? All right? That was the I always
Speaker 1: love secret audio with Rod Marinelli involved. Who stood, we
Speaker 1: gotta get stood, We gotta get Jason a new line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great day for you, but a great day for us. Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean hey whatever, Yeah that kid that Layton Vanderish,
Speaker 1: doesn't he says that to everybody. Yeah, but I was
Speaker 1: like the hey, stud, you know, we'll get ready, let's go.
Speaker 1: You know that thing. I remember a time in the
Speaker 1: not too distant past where the you know, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: if we could just get Marinelli some talent to work
Speaker 1: with whate that's not holding water these days. Well, the
Speaker 1: picks in for the Patriots at one twenty three. They
Speaker 1: showed Lamar Jackson and he was not on a phone, so, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought they weren't doing that tip pick tip and stuff.
Speaker 1: Well I don't I can say. I mean, he maybe
Speaker 1: he knows something we don't know. But the pick is
Speaker 1: definitely in. And they just showed him in the in
Speaker 1: the green room. He was visiting with somebody next to him.
Speaker 1: We'll see if, in fact, Dane, you feel like this
Speaker 1: pick could be is it you know, Landry, Is that
Speaker 1: the route you would go? Or they think about one
Speaker 1: of these. We talked about the offensive linemen. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think that you're talking about when Hernandez Daniels.
Speaker 1: I just think there's too much value. There's there's several
Speaker 1: good offensive linemen here. Yeah, we thought that's we're going
Speaker 1: to go. If Colton Miller was on the board, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got Connor Williams is on the board, Honor Williams,
Speaker 1: Isaiah Winn Hernandez James Daniels. Good chance, it's one of those. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I asked four. I think that I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: will find a way Connor Williams will We kind of
Speaker 1: think he's the young man from University of Texas. We
Speaker 1: kind of think of him as a as a guard,
Speaker 1: don't we. And the Saints work him out as a
Speaker 1: center and a guard. It just depends inside because of
Speaker 1: the wherever you want him about. Okay, well the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots there picks in. Here comes the commissioner to
Speaker 1: the podium. Yeah, there they go. They list him as that.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Similar similar player, just into a versatile offensive lineman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: i'd say they He announced him as a tackle. He
Speaker 1: did announce him was a tackle. He announce he announces
Speaker 1: what they ran hi the card. Yeah. So the Patriots
Speaker 1: wrote him down as a tackle on the card. And
Speaker 1: he's short, but he has decent length. Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: saw him the last fifteen games. He started every game
Speaker 1: for Georgia this past year. I left tackle, so we've
Speaker 1: seen him do it. He just he has a guard
Speaker 1: body he looks like your guard, your prototypical guard. But
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see if they try him outside.
Speaker 1: It would make sense given their the Patriots needs and
Speaker 1: the fact that we've seen Isaiah Win do it so
Speaker 1: we could see him play a tackle and not guard. Well,
Speaker 1: there you go. Isaiah Winn is a New England Patriot.
Speaker 1: That was a pick that they got from the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams in a trade. Uh. This this pick up here,
Speaker 1: this has a chance to be one of my favorite
Speaker 1: picks of the first round. If do you think this
Speaker 1: is gonna be the wide receiver? J J. Moore, I
Speaker 1: would love it for Carolina if it is. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's gonna happen, but I just love that.
Speaker 1: I love that pick. Yeah, Harold Andrew still out there.
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers is fifty years old. He had eleven sacks
Speaker 1: last year. It's amazing. But I mean he's uh seriously though,
Speaker 1: he's thirty eight years old. I mean, you know, a
Speaker 1: defensive end here would make some sense. Uh, they need
Speaker 1: corner help. Uh so you know, Mike Hughes, Josh Jackson.
Speaker 1: But yeah, DJ Moore, Steve Smith, I hate the Steve
Speaker 1: Smith comparisons. Are so overblown. I cannot watch DJ Moore
Speaker 1: and not get those vibes from him. Well, number one receiver,
Speaker 1: even a two, even if it's Calvin Ridley. I just
Speaker 1: a receiver in that mold who can come in and
Speaker 1: and get the job done right away. Good route runner,
Speaker 1: good hands. Yeah and yeah, Carolina. For the last four
Speaker 1: years of they've just had these jump ball guys, whether
Speaker 1: it's Calvin Benjamin or Devin Funcius. Like, give Camp similar
Speaker 1: to Dak Prescott, Give Cam Newton a guy who can
Speaker 1: create space and get open. He's got that in Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey as a running back. But I would love to
Speaker 1: see a wide receiver who fits that mold. Yeah, Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 1: there's six minutes left on the time allotment. Uh the
Speaker 1: picks after Carolina at is? Uh? Baltimore will pick at
Speaker 1: twenty five? Can I after them? And then Atlanta and
Speaker 1: Green Bay will be the next three picks? Can I
Speaker 1: steer this back toward the Cowboys for a hot minute
Speaker 1: go ahead? Because I kind of I touched on that
Speaker 1: and I thought maybe we'd have h coach Marinelli in here.
Speaker 1: We might still, I mean, you're still nine or ten
Speaker 1: picks left in the round. But it's interesting to think,
Speaker 1: you know, the narrative for so long was you know,
Speaker 1: all the talent on this team is on the offense, right,
Speaker 1: It's not true anymore. I mean, whatever you think about
Speaker 1: the pick, the pick is made, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Uh Layton vander Esh I mean he's gonna be expected
Speaker 1: to produce nineteenth overall pick, Taco Charlton twenty eighth overall pick,
Speaker 1: gonna be expected to produce Jalen Smith thirty fourth, Cheetah
Speaker 1: bay Owoozier pick sixty, Jordan Lewis pick ninety something, Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods third round grade found in the sixth round. No
Speaker 1: Malik Collins going back three years in the third round.
Speaker 1: I mean, all of a sudden, obviously you got Sean Lee,
Speaker 1: but Tyrone Crawford is the old head on this defense now,
Speaker 1: which makes me feel old to say. And it's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting because if the Cowboys hit on these picks
Speaker 1: the way that they've hit on their offensive picks, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a pretty fearsome unit here in the
Speaker 1: next year or two. And if they didn't, then we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of stuff to talk about on
Speaker 1: future draft shows about how these defensive picks have kind
Speaker 1: of sunk part of this team. So I mean, you
Speaker 1: gotta give a guy a benefit of the doubt, even
Speaker 1: I mean feels honestly here on this show and among
Speaker 1: people that listen to it, I feel like the vander
Speaker 1: Esh pick is similar to Taco, where it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a lot of people aren't doing backflips
Speaker 1: about it, but I think it's a useful guy who
Speaker 1: has upside, who can grow into a better player. I'm
Speaker 1: certainly not closing the book on Taco Charlton. I thought
Speaker 1: he ended his rookie season on a very strong note,
Speaker 1: and so I think I'm thinking something similar about Layton Vanderesh.
Speaker 1: So I just it's gonna be fascinating to see how
Speaker 1: those picks bear out, because there's no denying they've spent
Speaker 1: the resources. There's I mean, you can't argue that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of talent on that defense. Now it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of getting him to produce. I understand Cowboys
Speaker 1: fans being surprised by Taco last year. They should not
Speaker 1: be surprised by vander now whatsoever. Anyone that's watched us her,
Speaker 1: you know, seeing our tweets, and we've talked about lat
Speaker 1: option a. That's how I've I've described him as you know,
Speaker 1: if he's there, that makes it makes too much sense.
Speaker 1: They're looking for that mic linebacker. You move jail in
Speaker 1: to Sam. Sean leeves you're weak and you feel good
Speaker 1: about your linebacker situation a lot more than you did yesterday. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a question that you'll both hate,
Speaker 1: and Carolina's pick is in, so we'll get to that
Speaker 1: in a minute. But compare if you can, compare your
Speaker 1: expectations for what you think Layton Vanderesh can be in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen as opposed to what you thought for Taco.
Speaker 1: And I think it's fair to say in retrospect and
Speaker 1: by like I said, not closing the book on Taco,
Speaker 1: but y'all's project of what he would be as a
Speaker 1: rookie was pretty damn accurate. Yeah, so I thought talk
Speaker 1: would be a role player. I don't think Laton Vanders
Speaker 1: is gonna be a role player. I think they're throwing
Speaker 1: Layton van Orsh out there with the intent of go
Speaker 1: get the ball. You Sean Lee and Jalen Smith and
Speaker 1: Damian Wilson, you guys, figure it out, go get the
Speaker 1: football now. Honestly, Yeah, what the alternative do they have?
Speaker 1: And that's a good point. Yeah, which is I wonder
Speaker 1: I will be fascinated to see because we'll know quickly.
Speaker 1: I mean, what if is this guy gonna play one
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the snaps as your mic linebacker and
Speaker 1: that gives you a versatile backup in Jalen Smith. I
Speaker 1: didn't see a guy you took off the field though.
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, I mean, I mean, he can carr.
Speaker 1: I think he's great. One, it was great. Strengths is
Speaker 1: his ability to play in the passing game, I really
Speaker 1: really do. I mean with the range and all that.
Speaker 1: I think that you know that when you played Nickel
Speaker 1: and all. If you want to put Jalen Smith's down,
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers pick is in. I'll get back to
Speaker 1: my thought. Caroline is in. We're pick one, twenty four
Speaker 1: pick pick d J. I hope, so yeah, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Oh we're gonna get to see DJ Moore Yeah, week one. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I love that pick. So you cannot watch DJ more
Speaker 1: without seeing Steve Smith. In my opinion, I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: DJ Moore and and David this is a guy you've
Speaker 1: really been championing all I feel psych I feel guilty
Speaker 1: because I just stole him right out from under Dane's fingertips.
Speaker 1: Like Dane was like, look at this nice thing, and
Speaker 1: I was like, that's my thing now, all right, Well
Speaker 1: then you know I'll let you. I'm going to you
Speaker 1: right now to uh to give me a little insight
Speaker 1: on DJ Moore and what you like about him. The
Speaker 1: line that I came up with after enough time talking
Speaker 1: about him is I just feel like DJ Moore is
Speaker 1: a running back who can do all the stuff that
Speaker 1: are really good receiver can. Like once he gets the
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, he looks more like Kareem Hunt
Speaker 1: to me than a wide receiver. Like you know, he's
Speaker 1: you're not taking him down, you're not knocking him off balance,
Speaker 1: He's not falling backward, he's fighting forward. Every time he's
Speaker 1: slipping to ackles, He's getting around guys. And to add
Speaker 1: that to a guy, I mean he's got some work
Speaker 1: to do. Don't get me wrong. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: as polished as Calvin Ridley, but like he's got I
Speaker 1: think he's got a better route tree than your average
Speaker 1: rookie receiver He's not a guy that's just only gonna
Speaker 1: run bubble screens and go routes. And he's got really
Speaker 1: good hands. Yeah, how'd I do Dane spot? Yes, and
Speaker 1: pick some stuff up by osmosis. Sometimes you want a
Speaker 1: guy who's going to be able to get open before
Speaker 1: the catch, but also after the catch. Ye, And that's
Speaker 1: what he brings. You mentioned the running back mentality. That's
Speaker 1: that's what Dj Moore is. He's built. He's thick, not
Speaker 1: just upper body but lower body and his legs. Um.
Speaker 1: You really like his ability to create after the catch
Speaker 1: and be more than just a possession target. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: tell you what I was suppressed with the way that
Speaker 1: he was able to adjust to the football. Yeah. They
Speaker 1: throw some balls down the field, and his quarterback play
Speaker 1: wasn't very great, you know. I mean he had to
Speaker 1: play with a lot. That's just the nicest way I
Speaker 1: think I've heard situation. It's awful thing. An NFL MVP
Speaker 1: might be able to give him the ball a little
Speaker 1: bit better. Oh gosh, Yes, I think I think this
Speaker 1: kid right here. Yeah, Carolina is a nice job drafting
Speaker 1: And speak of the devil Steve Smith talking about the pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he loves him. He and I understand why. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: look in the mirror there he is good for good
Speaker 1: for the Carolina pants. That was a guy that you know,
Speaker 1: that's a guy that we kind of thought that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys would consider it nineteen and and you know, if
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh wasn't there, I'll be they would have maybe
Speaker 1: drafted him. I'll be the guy isn't falling guy for
Speaker 1: a second. For anybody that hates the Layton Vanderesh pick,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody somebody tweeted at me right after the
Speaker 1: pick that way, how are you just gonna leave Calvin
Speaker 1: Ridley on the board? And I just it's it's very similar.
Speaker 1: I think it's fitting to talk about Taco when you
Speaker 1: talk about Layton Vanderesh because I think if if linebacker
Speaker 1: was as deep as some of these other positions, I
Speaker 1: don't know that he would have been the pick. But
Speaker 1: you make this pick with the thought that you're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to find a really good receiver tomorrow, whether
Speaker 1: whether that's pick fifty or you right up from pick fifty,
Speaker 1: or even if you wait all the way to eighty one.
Speaker 1: I mean, we we kind of have an inkling that
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna fall to that range, don't you. And the
Speaker 1: mock draft I did today for Dallas Cowboys dot Com,
Speaker 1: I picked a wide receiver. I picked James Washington at nine,
Speaker 1: at which the third round pick. I would not be
Speaker 1: happy with James Washington at pick fifty, but at pick
Speaker 1: eighty one, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I just steel like that.
Speaker 1: Maybe the safety's gonna now gain. We're gonna think about
Speaker 1: Courtland's Sutton if he doesn't go, if he does one
Speaker 1: of these teams, I mean, if he doesn't get drafted
Speaker 1: in the next seven picks, I'm circling that name. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest here, there's an Alabama receiver sitting on the
Speaker 1: board right now at twenty five, and they're on the
Speaker 1: clock with the Baltimore Ravens, and Ozzie knew some loves
Speaker 1: his Alabama player. That sounds very Baltimore too. That sounds
Speaker 1: very Baltimore. And you have an Alabama receiver who's considered
Speaker 1: the best in the draft available to you at sixteen,
Speaker 1: and you trade down twice and still get him. Wallace, Macklin,
Speaker 1: and Campanero are no longer on the roster, only signed
Speaker 1: Crabtree and Brown. They also will added Will yeah, none
Speaker 1: of those guys. I don't know if they would go
Speaker 1: wide receiver though, just because you think that maybe they
Speaker 1: they were looking how about the tight end. You think
Speaker 1: that is where the first tight end goes. That's where
Speaker 1: I'm leaning Hayden Hurst, Dallas Garter one of those two,
Speaker 1: because they're still they stay in front of Jacksonville who
Speaker 1: we think could go um So, yeah about a runner
Speaker 1: quote from Steve Smith, Uh is this guys? Maybe? I
Speaker 1: mean there's somebody like that. A real quick quote from
Speaker 1: Steve Smith. They have never been able to replace me
Speaker 1: until today. That's a pretty good endorsement of djow love.
Speaker 1: I love Steve Smith just in general saying they can't
Speaker 1: replace me. It's awesome. He knows what he's talking about. Darius, guys,
Speaker 1: here would all Darius, guys, I'm gonna there's runners. There's
Speaker 1: clearly runners on the board. I was just thinking about
Speaker 1: guys that that the Ravens had looked at. Let's see
Speaker 1: for the right they brought in They brought in guys.
Speaker 1: That's why I bring it up. They brought in guys
Speaker 1: onto us. He's the only running back they had, is it.
Speaker 1: They visited all the tight ends, they went all three
Speaker 1: of the tight ends. They're tight end depth chart is
Speaker 1: not awe inspiring. Yeah, no, it's terrible, Max Williams Nick
Speaker 1: Boyle was trying to be nice. You don't need to
Speaker 1: be nice. Ter you got I mean Alex Collins caught
Speaker 1: on there after leaving Seattle. But again, I don't think
Speaker 1: that stops you from drafting or running back if that's
Speaker 1: what you want. Yeah, we could see it here. Um,
Speaker 1: I go back to the tight ends though, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Ridley's an outstanding value at this point. Um, which one
Speaker 1: of the tight ends would you take? You would take Hurst?
Speaker 1: Would you take God? God's my top tight end? First?
Speaker 1: Is mine? Right? So, but I'll see if Ozzie agrees
Speaker 1: with you and I or you or I. I think
Speaker 1: they're closely rated, you know, so, I don't think you
Speaker 1: can really go wrong if you need a tight end.
Speaker 1: Either one is going to help you. Both guys can
Speaker 1: line up in line. They're both gonna help you in
Speaker 1: the passing game. Lamar Jackson's getting Nancy, Yeah he does.
Speaker 1: He does. Lamar Jackson get drafted in it? What if again,
Speaker 1: talking about ball back and setting what they want? What
Speaker 1: if he just falls right into new England's lap at
Speaker 1: thirty That's what I was thinking, New England at thirty one.
Speaker 1: I kind of jumped up on the table for him
Speaker 1: at twenty three. Maybe New England knows exactly where this
Speaker 1: guy is gonna go, so you know it might be
Speaker 1: an opportunity there. But the Ravens are at Jacksonville, Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson falls in Jacksonville's lap, picks in for Baltimore. They're
Speaker 1: at one twenty five right now, and so we will see.
Speaker 1: We've we've kind of kind of hit the gamut of
Speaker 1: a lot of things. We've got Ridley on the board.
Speaker 1: We've got tight ends on the board. We've got offensive
Speaker 1: linemen on the board for the team. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you look at two the center guard combination had lost
Speaker 1: their center last year, Ryan Jensen in free agency need
Speaker 1: an upgrade over Scura Hurst's stay to be the right tack.
Speaker 1: I mean, they this team might look at one of
Speaker 1: those Connor Williams and guys like that, guys I hate
Speaker 1: to butt in here. We've got Layton vander esh on
Speaker 1: the wall. Oh, very nice, very nice, Dallas cowboy. Layton
Speaker 1: you there, ye, hey man, what's going on? This is?
Speaker 1: You're on with David Hellman and Brian wrot Us from
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Congratulations man, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: All right, so, all right, obviously we know you know
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are the ones that call you when you
Speaker 1: get picked. But take me through the last I don't
Speaker 1: know twenty five minutes of your life and all the
Speaker 1: different people you've had to talk to and conversations that
Speaker 1: you've had. I have been on absolute cloud nine for
Speaker 1: the last twenty five minutes ever since they called me. Um.
Speaker 1: I was awaiting for them, and I had my fingers
Speaker 1: crossed on the wade hope that they were gonna make
Speaker 1: that call to me, and uh, they most definitely did.
Speaker 1: And uh, all the hard works paying off. Now, Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know it's our job to cover the draft.
Speaker 1: We've been we've been doing this show twice a week
Speaker 1: since January. We've been talking, we've been talking about you
Speaker 1: as a possibility here in Dallas since since at least
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. So you know, if we knew that, I'm
Speaker 1: curious on your end, just talk to take us through
Speaker 1: that relationship that you've built with the Cowboys and maybe
Speaker 1: your your hopes and your ideas that this would be
Speaker 1: the spot for you. I don't, I honestly don't even
Speaker 1: know where to start because it's just been built so
Speaker 1: good already. I mean, I took a visit here and Uh,
Speaker 1: coach Bloom came out and worked me out at Boisi
Speaker 1: Stave threw me through a couple of drills for for linebackers,
Speaker 1: and I mean I came in on my visit here
Speaker 1: and met everybody in the organization, all the coaches and
Speaker 1: at GM and of course Jerry and Uh. That was
Speaker 1: one of the coolest experiences of my life. And it
Speaker 1: was actually kind of cool because it was the second
Speaker 1: time I had been to the Star on a on
Speaker 1: a kind of a tour. I guess you could say.
Speaker 1: My agent is a local here in Dallas, and Uh,
Speaker 1: when I signed with him, he took me out to
Speaker 1: dinner at the Star. So it's crazy. If I could
Speaker 1: tell you the whole story right now, if we had time,
Speaker 1: I would. How ironic and kind of coincidence it's all
Speaker 1: been Layton. When when you met with them, did they
Speaker 1: you know you play inside? Is that like as a
Speaker 1: mic linebacker? They talked about where they might start. You
Speaker 1: am I too premature on where they're going? To play.
Speaker 1: They give you an idea, like sitting down with you,
Speaker 1: watch the tape and say it, Hey, we kind of
Speaker 1: see you as a fit for this, or am I
Speaker 1: kind of jumping the gun here a little bit right now?
Speaker 1: It's kind of a toss up. I would say, they're
Speaker 1: just trying to see where I would fit best once
Speaker 1: I get run around in the field and ain't get
Speaker 1: in the playbook. So we'll see. We'll see how that
Speaker 1: goes and what happens there. But it should be should
Speaker 1: be a quick, quick diagnosis and we'll be good to go. Leiden.
Speaker 1: You know obvious, Like I said, the draft is it's
Speaker 1: it feels like a year long thing. At this point,
Speaker 1: people start dissecting players before bowl seasons even over. And
Speaker 1: one of the talking points about you is, you know,
Speaker 1: one year starter at Boise. Some people view that as
Speaker 1: a positive, you know, still a young player, still developing
Speaker 1: your game. Other people view it as as not a negative,
Speaker 1: just in the sense that you're not experienced. How do
Speaker 1: you see yourself as a player, how you're developing, and
Speaker 1: where you're going from here as you start your pro career. Well,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people overlook my sophomore year
Speaker 1: I mean I was playing more than our starter was
Speaker 1: huge as a senior captain, he was just starting the games.
Speaker 1: I was playing more than he was, and I learned
Speaker 1: a lot from him, and at that point I was
Speaker 1: kind of taking over the reins and it was my
Speaker 1: time to shine. So a lot of people don't realize
Speaker 1: what happened my sophomore year and then my junior year,
Speaker 1: I got the chance to start, and then it was like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: who's this kid now that he's starting. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no reason for that. I've always been there. I've
Speaker 1: always been confident in myself and I'm always gonna put
Speaker 1: the work and get the job done. And I'm just
Speaker 1: ready to go now. I'm ready to go move on
Speaker 1: to my dreams. I've had my whole life, and one
Speaker 1: of them was to play here in Dallas. So we
Speaker 1: got a lot of We got a lot to accomplish
Speaker 1: here in the in the next couple of months and
Speaker 1: get ready for season, and we had to put ourselves
Speaker 1: in position to win a Super Bowl. Lay did you
Speaker 1: have any contact with Sean Lee or anybody else, any
Speaker 1: from anybody the defensive the veteran guy, I mean, Jason
Speaker 1: Wittn or anybody. Did you when you're here at the
Speaker 1: Star and we saw you in the cafeteria there? Did
Speaker 1: you Did you get to run into any of the
Speaker 1: players while you were here on the defensive side? Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually got to talk to Sean Lee for at
Speaker 1: least probably twenty twenty five minutes in the weight room.
Speaker 1: He was just getting done working out, and then he
Speaker 1: got in and I got to talk to him for
Speaker 1: a little bit and it was awesome seeing the type
Speaker 1: of guy he is and actually seeing him faith to
Speaker 1: faith instead of just on TV and stuff. Um, it
Speaker 1: was surreal to me, honestly, because I'd always wanted to
Speaker 1: meet him personally, and uh, it was just it was
Speaker 1: just awesome getting that chance to mean talk with a
Speaker 1: guy like him with hike caliber. Late a unique circumstance
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. I mean, you're you were drafted at
Speaker 1: the stadium twenty miles away. I mean, you're already in town.
Speaker 1: What's what's your night look like? They bring you up
Speaker 1: to the facility or where do you go from here?
Speaker 1: I don't know yet. They said they would let me know.
Speaker 1: All right, beautiful man, Hey, well, we're pumped to have
Speaker 1: you thanks for coming on with us, and yeah, welcome
Speaker 1: to Dallas, man, Thank you so much. All right, have
Speaker 1: a go on. Thank Layton Vanderish the Cowboys, uh first
Speaker 1: round linebacker selected with the nineteenth overall pick. Uh. The
Speaker 1: we talked about this, Dan Bruger will bring you back
Speaker 1: here and Hayden Hurst goes to the Baltimore Ravens. So
Speaker 1: we talked about a tight end there. It was a
Speaker 1: matter of which one if they if they didn't trade back,
Speaker 1: they might have taken him at sixteen. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: they really wanted up grade the tight end position. So
Speaker 1: not a surprise they did this. I didn't think it'd
Speaker 1: be receiver with all the additions they made in free agency.
Speaker 1: So I certainly understand the pick at Hurst at six
Speaker 1: or at trading back here and now we have Atlanta
Speaker 1: and Atlanta and the commissioners at the podium cool. I
Speaker 1: love it. That's a great fit for Ridley. My buddy
Speaker 1: Tommy Dimitrov, you get he's gonna stock up on all
Speaker 1: these Alabamic receivers. You got Julio Jones obviously, and then
Speaker 1: Mohammed Sanu. Ridley can play inside, in the slot, can
Speaker 1: play outside the z I love it. He's going to
Speaker 1: a really good situation there Atlanta. I love that fit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then and the quarterback there too, Matt Ryan, one
Speaker 1: of the one of the better ones in the league.
Speaker 1: So yeah, look at the Calvin Ridley very excited, probably
Speaker 1: very relieved at this situation. I know these guys. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: you gotta have an ego to be an elite football player.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett says it on All or Nothing, the TV
Speaker 1: show's coming out. You gotta have an edge to make
Speaker 1: it in this league. So I get it, you want
Speaker 1: to go as high as humanly possible. But hell yes,
Speaker 1: if I'm Calvin Riddle, like I'm going to Atlanta where
Speaker 1: Julio's taking pressure off me, and DeVante Freeman and Tevin
Speaker 1: Coleman are there to make defenses, stay honest, and obviously
Speaker 1: an NFL MVP is throwing the ball. That's where I
Speaker 1: want to be. I don't want to be in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I want to be there playing with a bunch of
Speaker 1: beasts on a super Bowl contending team. So that's the
Speaker 1: way it usually fall. Good football teams look at that,
Speaker 1: Those players look at that. Yeah, Matt Ryan, DeVante Freeman,
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, Cowboys get to play
Speaker 1: against that group again and you can win some ball
Speaker 1: games with that. Tommy Demittrof though, nice job picking a player.
Speaker 1: It fell right to him. Sometimes you stay very patient
Speaker 1: it sits right in your lap. Dan kind, let's reset
Speaker 1: a little bit here. I'll go back a few picks.
Speaker 1: Tennessee at twenty two took Rashaun Evans, a linebacker from Alabama.
Speaker 1: The New England Patriots took Isaiah Win. They list him
Speaker 1: as a tackle from University of Georgia. Carolina took Dj Moore.
Speaker 1: We all love that pick from Maryland. And then Tennis
Speaker 1: at Baltimore took Hayden Hurst to tight end from South
Speaker 1: Carolina at twenty five. And now at the Atlanta Falcons
Speaker 1: at one twenty six, take Calvin Ridley, the wide receiver
Speaker 1: from Alabama. Dan, can you reset for me who you've
Speaker 1: got left as far as some of the guys, so
Speaker 1: maybe some of your top fifty Harold got Harold Landry
Speaker 1: still out there? Yeah, Harold Landry would be my top
Speaker 1: rated players. Well, Nils, we don't Maurice Hurst, we don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on with the medicals. He's he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna fall at least in day two. Yeah, Will Hernandez
Speaker 1: is out there, Darius Guice, Mike Hughes, Uh, Daven Bryan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're kind of surprised. David Bryan still out there. So
Speaker 1: some some good names and Seattle's coming up here. U.
Speaker 1: What did I say the shock? Why don't was it
Speaker 1: on their No, we were upstairs when I said it,
Speaker 1: the shock of the first round. It'd be a Seattle
Speaker 1: traded back and took Griffin. Yeah you think wow? So
Speaker 1: they would no again? I said it because it would
Speaker 1: be a shock. Wow. Well they did the trade back part.
Speaker 1: Let's I mean, I know his brother plays there, but man, no,
Speaker 1: it's probably this is this is the pick that went
Speaker 1: from New Orleans to green Bay? Right? Am? I correct
Speaker 1: about that? And then and now it's in Seattle's hands.
Speaker 1: So let's see because green Bay traded back up, which
Speaker 1: I don't want to put y'all on the spot. I
Speaker 1: can't even keep track of my chicken scratch? How many?
Speaker 1: How many trades have we seen tonight? One two and
Speaker 1: two teams have traded twice. Green Bay and Baltimore are
Speaker 1: both traded twice. Right, Dane to go back you're talking
Speaker 1: about like seven trades, I think, yeah. To go back
Speaker 1: to Maurice Hurst, the defensive tackle from Michigan, UH talking
Speaker 1: some teams around the league. He has a what they're
Speaker 1: calling a thickening of the heart in which he's played
Speaker 1: through and if he UH can't correct, you can't correct
Speaker 1: this and if they do surgery, it will end his career.
Speaker 1: So you just kind of need to find a round
Speaker 1: where you're comfortable taking him. He did play with this
Speaker 1: at Michigan, but it is a thickening of the heart,
Speaker 1: and so we will see some teams do have him
Speaker 1: off the draft board. But again, you just need to
Speaker 1: find around where you're comfortable taking him and uh and
Speaker 1: go from there. So that kind of tells you a
Speaker 1: little about Maurice Hearst, the defensive tackle from from Michigan.
Speaker 1: He's going to be off just a lot of boards.
Speaker 1: That's just how it's going to be. Um who knows,
Speaker 1: it's anyone's guess what boards he's on and at what
Speaker 1: point in the draft. Teams feeling find find around where
Speaker 1: you at, you know, and again it's something that if
Speaker 1: he if he has it corrected, then that will end
Speaker 1: his career. I'm I mean, I've I've whipped on trying
Speaker 1: to project Harold Landry about five times tonight. But Seattle
Speaker 1: needs I mean, Malik McDowell's off the team a year
Speaker 1: after they drafted him. Yeah, and obviously I mean because
Speaker 1: the accident. Not right, right, Yeah, different positions, But Taven, Brian,
Speaker 1: maybe you want a three tech. Maybe you want a
Speaker 1: pass rusher to help Frank Clark. Yeah, Frank Clark's in
Speaker 1: the final year of his deal, so you need edge
Speaker 1: help Harold Landry. We've been and that was my first thing,
Speaker 1: sat here and argued over Frank Clark and he's already
Speaker 1: coming up on the end of the verre. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. It wasn't Irving. Whose guy was that? By
Speaker 1: the way, it was your guy when I when I
Speaker 1: saw that, that was the first thing that went through
Speaker 1: my head, Like he's about free agency getting old long,
Speaker 1: we've been doing that. Well, here we go the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: We've talked about some of the things that you mentioned.
Speaker 1: Defensive end. It's just too much value right there. I mean,
Speaker 1: Harold Landry something, I mean, here's a guy, like I said,
Speaker 1: this guy wins on the first step. Dip Flatten the
Speaker 1: quarterback and Chase. I mean, there's a lot of really
Speaker 1: good things about Harold Landry and the tape. I wonder
Speaker 1: if the tape Dane from this year, Dave. I wonder
Speaker 1: if people just sat there and to valuated the tape
Speaker 1: this year and said, you know what, this is what
Speaker 1: he is, and they didn't look at two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 1: How are you going to do that again? I think
Speaker 1: it comes back to he's a very good pass rusher,
Speaker 1: but you worry about him versus the run. It's you
Speaker 1: cannot have him out there if he's a liability, if
Speaker 1: he can't shut down the edge, and so I think
Speaker 1: the fact that he can't play the run is the
Speaker 1: biggest reason why we're still seeing him in the stress.
Speaker 1: And it's not that he can't, it's just that he struggles.
Speaker 1: It's going to be inconsistent. Some plays. He'll do a
Speaker 1: nice job, you know, stringing run plays outside. Sometimes he'll
Speaker 1: get dominated at the point of attack and it'll open
Speaker 1: up run lanes off tackle more the running back. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, Dame Brewer, you're a smart scout. I
Speaker 1: thought this, you know again, initial quickness off the ball,
Speaker 1: wrap a tap plays signment, but will get fooled at times,
Speaker 1: doesn't always find the ball, can redirect when he needs to,
Speaker 1: will struggle when the ball comes right at him. Players
Speaker 1: where who get washed out of the way, has the
Speaker 1: quickness to capture the edge, needs to use more moves.
Speaker 1: I thought like he had some passers smooth, But I
Speaker 1: was kind of thinking, like, you know, maybe if you
Speaker 1: put him at that wide nine and let him go. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: here's John Snyder. Uh. And then they're they're showing the
Speaker 1: war room right now, Paul Allen Uh in the middle
Speaker 1: of the with talking to Pete Carroll and also dealing.
Speaker 1: Where's is yet John standing up? Is that Snyder to
Speaker 1: the left of Pete Carroll? Yeah, looking like he's heading
Speaker 1: to a van. Yes, he's going to a pearl jam Conco.
Speaker 1: He looks like he is. That's my former intern. Ny.
Speaker 1: I like that guy, Johnny Snyder, my former guy. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he is about to make a pick. Here the picks
Speaker 1: in at one twenty seven, we'll see John John Schneider
Speaker 1: seems like the type of guy who like he might
Speaker 1: be wearing flip flops. You know, everybody, everybody, you can
Speaker 1: be grief all the time about him. It's like since
Speaker 1: he fights us out for beer, and you're kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: why why do we go? Hey, let's go trade war
Speaker 1: stories with the GM of a super Bowl winning team.
Speaker 1: And you're like, Oh, I don't want to bother him. No,
Speaker 1: Like he's wearing flip flops and everybody in Dallas is
Speaker 1: wearing a three piece suit, and just I love his vibe. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: it's a good Well the pick is and we'll see
Speaker 1: which direction we go. We feel like it's gonna be defense.
Speaker 1: Dane kind of gave you some of the guys we
Speaker 1: talked about. Landry I still have Hughes the corner from
Speaker 1: Central floors, Jacks on board, Josh Jackson's still out there.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm you know, if they got there's offensive
Speaker 1: lineman that are still available. We've talked about Daniels, Hernandez
Speaker 1: or guys as well. And Connor Williams too is there
Speaker 1: as well. O'Neill is another guy. So uh, plenty. You know,
Speaker 1: Seahawks now picking at twenty seven. There there's some quality
Speaker 1: players for them to to kind of look over, uh
Speaker 1: and uh and see if they would like to make
Speaker 1: that pick. Oh Man, Seattle's been on the clock for
Speaker 1: about two days. I'm just I'm I'm just pulling stuff
Speaker 1: out of nowhere right now. But no, man, you've got
Speaker 1: two more days of this day. But we have got
Speaker 1: to walk at thee. I'll let no no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: and that's I'll I'll let make this pick real quick.
Speaker 1: Good they'll make this pick. Whoa, whoa. I mean, good player,
Speaker 1: but that's a I shocker with this pick. Just different player.
Speaker 1: Um wow, you would think that he'd be available. I
Speaker 1: guess they Seattle doesn't have a second or third round pick.
Speaker 1: They don't, but they sure don't. Man. That's that's But
Speaker 1: if you think about the running backs, and Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: probably knows Ronald Jones, I mean he's got those USC connections.
Speaker 1: Uh you know Carron Johnson, Guys, Sony, Michelle, Nick, Chubb Wiley.
Speaker 1: Those were all guys I had above Penny. So uh wow,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm gonna put up pull out my Homer
Speaker 1: hat for a I'm sorry, Darius Guys is still on
Speaker 1: the board. Come on, yeah, way, Well, if you're taking
Speaker 1: a running back, that's no, that's my I mean, you're drafting,
Speaker 1: you're drafting Rashad Penny. Yeah, and Darius Guys is still there.
Speaker 1: Yeah huh. And I do like John Schneider and I
Speaker 1: trust his evaluations because he's built himself a pretty nice
Speaker 1: team up there. But man, he's got more more hardware
Speaker 1: than you and I do. You're damn right. Oh wha wait,
Speaker 1: he's got two that's right. Yeah, he gets you. He's
Speaker 1: got me by one yet one together, one one together.
Speaker 1: That's what he's got me on he has. He built
Speaker 1: one of those balls. He sure did. Okay, let's talk
Speaker 1: about talk about Penny Dane. Maybe we kind of understand.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good looking kid physically running the football.
Speaker 1: I mean, you see him, he's got some finish to him.
Speaker 1: Did Did you have a problem with him as a
Speaker 1: pass blocker? Was that kind of where where things go
Speaker 1: with him? A little bit? That that he wasn't That
Speaker 1: wasn't the complete back that we all thought he might be. Right,
Speaker 1: we know he can run the football over two thousand
Speaker 1: yards this year impact kicker Turner as well. Sure showed
Speaker 1: the ability to catch the ball in the backfield and
Speaker 1: needs to get better in that area, but showed the
Speaker 1: ability he could. His pass protection was a disaster. He
Speaker 1: needs to get better than that area. And I've said
Speaker 1: it before, but I was encouraged that he has said
Speaker 1: that he is not very good right now. He knows
Speaker 1: that's his weakness pass protection, and he knows he needs
Speaker 1: to get better. Big question is will he so still?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very surprised he was my fifty eighth
Speaker 1: best player and surprised he went ahead of guys Ronald
Speaker 1: Jones to Georgia running backs which carry on. Johnson, I
Speaker 1: do this thing every year where I try to pick
Speaker 1: thirty two that I tried to thirty two guys who
Speaker 1: I think they're going to go, and I probably never
Speaker 1: considered him. I did well, and I thought I was
Speaker 1: crazy because I put Ronald Jones on him, and I
Speaker 1: was right to think that that might happen. But I
Speaker 1: picked I was off on the guy by a lot. Wait,
Speaker 1: so I'm sorry, but before this comes in, that's where
Speaker 1: I was trying to go. Before that, well, I'm okay,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I'm looking at this ticker here. Yeah, Steelers
Speaker 1: make a little You could you could convince me in
Speaker 1: the Steelers. You could can. Honestly, Pittsburgh Jacksonville in New
Speaker 1: England all makes sense as a land of the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: takes here's the thing that scares the crap out of me.
Speaker 1: And that's why before the Seattle pick, I said, oh no, yeah,
Speaker 1: what what kind of draft capital did the New York
Speaker 1: Giants have to trade up? They? I mean, let's look
Speaker 1: at their board. I think they were. I think they were.
Speaker 1: They were hurting for some picks they've got. They've got
Speaker 1: They've done the third, Yeah, they got one in the second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got the Actually they've got pick sixty six and
Speaker 1: sixty nine, and that's worth uh, two sixty and two
Speaker 1: forty five for you math experts, gentile under gentleman, I
Speaker 1: don't want any part of Lamar Jackson and sae Quon
Speaker 1: Barkley both being in New York. And then maybe the
Speaker 1: Giants don't even have to trade up to do it.
Speaker 1: Maybe they can just let him fall the thirties. It's
Speaker 1: funny because no one's drafting him. They take with those
Speaker 1: offensive linemen. If the Steelers draft him, everyone in the
Speaker 1: AFC North is going, oh crap, yeah, oh you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like no one's drafting him. But still once
Speaker 1: he is draft did the rest of the teams of
Speaker 1: the division are going to be like, oh no, nobody
Speaker 1: was drafting Derek Carr either and he was the best
Speaker 1: quarterback that came out of that class. Inside linebacker, corner,
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and quarterback are the ones you need to
Speaker 1: think about here at Pittsburgh High projected read here the
Speaker 1: safety from Stanford. Yeah, I think that's a direction they
Speaker 1: can go. We could see a running back here. We
Speaker 1: don't know how Levion Bell situation is going to work out.
Speaker 1: We think they could go defensive line with at some
Speaker 1: depth they had some help up front. I don't as
Speaker 1: a linebacker worth here, you know, Brian Shizier, we know
Speaker 1: is out? Is there a linebacker? We feel good here?
Speaker 1: With the top four off the board. Could they go
Speaker 1: for some this is too high for him. They probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. It wouldn't take Josie Jewel here, would they? No,
Speaker 1: they won't. What if they took Griffin m that. I'll
Speaker 1: trying to get real wild with it tonight. I like
Speaker 1: it now. I'm just saying no. I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: you can't. I mean and I mean, hey, got the warner,
Speaker 1: I mean Hughes. Hughes makes a lot of sense there,
Speaker 1: though done it? I mean corner I had lit his
Speaker 1: corners are second need inside linebacker, corner, wide receiver. I
Speaker 1: got that right. Yeah, so maybe maybe that's the Maybe
Speaker 1: Hughes is what's wrong with Hughes? I mean, do we do?
Speaker 1: We do? We did think he was? I mean I
Speaker 1: got a first round God, you have a second ground
Speaker 1: round grade on him. I've got a one two. I
Speaker 1: mean on my board, he's little. Here we go. Commission's
Speaker 1: gonna TELLU. So it is, he's getting ready to be
Speaker 1: a pro Bowl. I don't worry about it. Wow, that's great.
Speaker 1: I go both Edmund's brothers go out in the first round.
Speaker 1: There he is. That was a pretty cool moment. That
Speaker 1: is a very kil moment. So they you thought Dane,
Speaker 1: they thought they were gonna take the safety read and
Speaker 1: instead they'd take Terrill Edmonds, the safety from Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: He was a thirty visit guy for the Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: so talk a little bit about him, Dane, and what
Speaker 1: this Virginia Tech safety can bring to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1: I wasn't as high on him. I think he's he
Speaker 1: struggles in coverage. He's a big, physical guy, can come
Speaker 1: out hitch a verse to run. Tested really well at
Speaker 1: the combine, tested it off the charts really, but I
Speaker 1: thought you watched him in coverage and he was out
Speaker 1: of position a lot gave up spacing, So I worry
Speaker 1: about him in that respect. So I see him as
Speaker 1: more of a strong than a free and I think
Speaker 1: that's what really Pittsburgh needed as a true free safety.
Speaker 1: I would guess they're gonna triumph it free first, so
Speaker 1: I'm eager to see how this one plays out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. It's got a good pedal,
Speaker 1: but it takes him a little bit to get going.
Speaker 1: And once he does, though, he's all right with that
Speaker 1: wrap up tacker. He's not smooth, but he can cover
Speaker 1: some ground play in the slot, tackles well up space.
Speaker 1: He could save the day with his tackling ability. There
Speaker 1: were plenty of times on tape where again the rest
Speaker 1: Virginia game Duket Miami, where he had to eight players
Speaker 1: or breakdowns and he was able to make the play well.
Speaker 1: But I thought he'd tracked the ball pretty well against Duke.
Speaker 1: They used him as a blitzer a little bit can
Speaker 1: carry the tight in and where for the crosser. Some
Speaker 1: change of direction there. But you know I'm with you
Speaker 1: on that. I mean the notes read a lot more
Speaker 1: better than him. I had him as a fourth round player,
Speaker 1: So we'll see exactly where they play him. I'm with you, Dan,
Speaker 1: I think he was more of a strong safety and
Speaker 1: he really was a free But we'll see how the Steelers,
Speaker 1: in fact, you play him. His set of brothers every
Speaker 1: been selected in the same first round. I mean, guess
Speaker 1: Tiki Barber and Ronde Barber were both I think one
Speaker 1: was a third the top three picks. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: that happened in nineteen eighty seven. But in the same
Speaker 1: first round two brothers. I don't I don't know. I
Speaker 1: thought my head. I can't think of anything either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: random observation on my part. But good note though, Dane,
Speaker 1: is it is? It is? How does his safety one
Speaker 1: of the harder positions to grade in football these days,
Speaker 1: especially with the way the game is played and how
Speaker 1: hard it is to play that position. Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's if you have a guy that's a banger safety,
Speaker 1: you know, a guy that'll hit the guys out of
Speaker 1: the game, the rules, the rules are are taking those guys.
Speaker 1: They're taking Darren Woodson out of the game, or Ronnie
Speaker 1: Lott or those types of guys. The reason I ask
Speaker 1: is I feel like this is maybe the third year
Speaker 1: in a row where a safety like this has gone
Speaker 1: in the middle to late first round that nobody really
Speaker 1: agreed on. Karl Joseph comes to mind, Um, who's the
Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neill is another guy that comes to mind. And
Speaker 1: it's like you find people all over the board, Like,
Speaker 1: clearly the Steelers like this guy enough to draft him
Speaker 1: twenty eight. You just said he's a fourth round grade?
Speaker 1: What was your grade? Dan? Third? Mid third? So that
Speaker 1: that's my I mean, typically for the most part, you
Speaker 1: have a pretty firm consensus on these guys, but that
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like it's been the case at safety,
Speaker 1: with a few exceptions for guys like Derwin James. It
Speaker 1: seems like beauty's in the eye of beholder. The beholder
Speaker 1: with this position more so than a lot of others.
Speaker 1: All Right, Jacksonville is on the clock. Their pick is in.
Speaker 1: We'll wait for that. I was talking with some sources
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville even before the draft, and they were asking
Speaker 1: me about tight ends. Who I had as a tight ends.
Speaker 1: I think this is where your guy goes Dane. I
Speaker 1: think this is Goddard. Goddard go it makes sense, yea,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson still on the board. Yeah, I have to man, Okay,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about that, then, would you rather
Speaker 1: would you take Jackson over Goddard in this situation? I
Speaker 1: would yeah. I mean, because you don't really trust Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles to you, right, And I know they resigned him,
Speaker 1: but that's fine. Lamar Jackson can sit and learn and
Speaker 1: at the very least you can get him on the
Speaker 1: field and some type of package and use his athleticism.
Speaker 1: But this Jacksonville Jaguars team is poised to win now,
Speaker 1: and so I get it they don't go in that direction.
Speaker 1: If they go for a Connor Williams or a Dallas Goddard,
Speaker 1: it certainly makes sense because that's more of a player
Speaker 1: that's going to help Now, Dave and you thought about that,
Speaker 1: that's tough, man, because I mean it's the ultimate catch.
Speaker 1: Twenty two is like Lake Bortles. Is he a guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna play there for the foreseeable future. I know
Speaker 1: Tom Coffin's kind of throwing him a little bit of
Speaker 1: a lifeline a little bit, right. This is a team
Speaker 1: that was a touchdown away from the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 1: you're drafting a guy who maybe won't help you in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Like that's a tough pill to swallow. It's
Speaker 1: a lot like trading away a future one. It's like,
Speaker 1: this is a good idea, but it might bite us
Speaker 1: in the long run. I'm so glad I don't have
Speaker 1: linebacker tackle tied end wide receiver. We don't feel like
Speaker 1: the wide receivers are that involved with the ones, at
Speaker 1: least the first round wide receivers, but linebacker, offensive tackle
Speaker 1: tied end. I do feel like, again, I got a
Speaker 1: pretty good source down there in Jacksonville, and he was
Speaker 1: asking me about tight ends and how I kind of
Speaker 1: had him ranked, and I mean maybe mentioned too that
Speaker 1: how Dane had his, and so we were all kind
Speaker 1: of but this seems very much like that kind of
Speaker 1: a pick. Their pick win in pretty early once they
Speaker 1: went on the clock. Once the Steelers made their pick,
Speaker 1: they felt like that they had their guy and Tom
Speaker 1: Coughlin running things down to him and David Calwell uh
Speaker 1: doing things with the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's a good team
Speaker 1: to watch. So they'll be here at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 1: You know that'd be a difficult matchup, don't you think
Speaker 1: their day. Yeah, I'm touchdown away from the super Bowl everywhere.
Speaker 1: Here's the commissioner. Yeah all right, yeah, why not just
Speaker 1: add another monster to that defense? Since already fantastic. Did
Speaker 1: you feel like that Taven Bryan was gonna I mean
Speaker 1: you mentioned him earlier, right, yeah, I thought he was up.
Speaker 1: Once we got to the Cowboys pick at nineteen, I
Speaker 1: thought that's when you Taven Brian. Watch started. Um, surprise,
Speaker 1: he got past a few teams Atlanta, although they took
Speaker 1: a nice player in Calvin Ridley, um upfield penetrator. The traits,
Speaker 1: the traits are better than the tape right now, Um,
Speaker 1: you know you worry about I care more about traits
Speaker 1: than production. But his lack of production did scare me
Speaker 1: a little bit because he can get into the backfield,
Speaker 1: but I need a guy that can finish. I think
Speaker 1: that he still has room to develop. He will get better,
Speaker 1: but I still worried a little bit about him. He
Speaker 1: was played more like a second round player than a
Speaker 1: first round player. But the traits are first round worthy,
Speaker 1: and so I think here at this point in the
Speaker 1: first round, I think this is this is an appropriate
Speaker 1: value of where he should have come off the board. Yeah, Tevin,
Speaker 1: I like the way I thought the quickness that you
Speaker 1: were talking about. You know, they're showing right now the
Speaker 1: highlights of Texas A and M. He was a dominant
Speaker 1: player in that game, and I thought he did do
Speaker 1: a pretty good job with moves pass rush moves, using
Speaker 1: his hands, free himself, hit the gap, you know, chase disruptive.
Speaker 1: You know, he could draw holding calls of seeing him
Speaker 1: do that a bunch. He has been to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's a hard guy to work in front of when
Speaker 1: he when he gets going up the field and makes
Speaker 1: a move, he is a hard guy to get your
Speaker 1: body in front because he's got so much quickness and
Speaker 1: he's outside the tackle box type of a player that
Speaker 1: use him to the twist game. Pretty good pick right
Speaker 1: there for the Jaguars. Again, that's a team it's pretty
Speaker 1: salty on defense right now. He was number twenty nine
Speaker 1: on my board. Look at that this Okay, they got
Speaker 1: they got Klais Campbell, Malie Jackson, Tavan, Bryan Yannick and
Speaker 1: Gaguay And that doesn't even have Dante Fowler. I mean,
Speaker 1: and actually I love that, Like this right here illustrates
Speaker 1: the beauty of the NFL. If I'm a Browns fan,
Speaker 1: I love watching the Jags pick twenty ninth because the
Speaker 1: Jags were a staple in the top ten, Like they
Speaker 1: were coaching the Senior Bowl every year, eight freaking years.
Speaker 1: They're picking twenty ninth and just adding guys to an
Speaker 1: already loaded front seven. Love it. So that puts the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings on the clock. Heck, they know who their
Speaker 1: pick is. They've already got that thing in So maybe
Speaker 1: they want a guard. Yeah, a guard, you think they would?
Speaker 1: They got they got, Ever, I don't know what else
Speaker 1: they Hernandez falls them. It's a perfect fit on what else?
Speaker 1: What else could they possibly want? I mean honest, like,
Speaker 1: what are what other holes do they have? They're they're
Speaker 1: a team that doesn't have many. They got they got
Speaker 1: the quarterback, they drafted a running back last year. They
Speaker 1: got their receivers. There's studs all over their defense. They
Speaker 1: could they could go U corner. You know Terrence Newman,
Speaker 1: they still haven't resigned him, he's still out there. Could
Speaker 1: go corner. Uh, they could go you know, we know
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer likes upgrade the defensive line. Yeah, Anthony Barr
Speaker 1: set for a big pay day. Maybe they look for
Speaker 1: his future replacement. So I think there are a lot
Speaker 1: of different directions they could go, but guards sticks out
Speaker 1: like a sore thumb as an maybe their top need.
Speaker 1: And with will Hernandez sitting there, James Daniels too, they
Speaker 1: gave Kirk Cousins a ton of money and the tah
Speaker 1: trying to protect him. There you go. They did visit
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, uh and he is there. Let's see who
Speaker 1: else they got there picking the litter. Yeah, they can.
Speaker 1: They could take whoever they want if they want to.
Speaker 1: If if they want to put Connor Williams to guard,
Speaker 1: you know, if that's something Dane, you feel like that
Speaker 1: they need to do. Draft him and see what they
Speaker 1: had the most exactly. Well that's yeah, on the right side,
Speaker 1: that's what they were thinking because with a Mike Remmers,
Speaker 1: yeah right, tackle, I think about moving him inside to guard.
Speaker 1: So as a possibility, well, it looks like that. The
Speaker 1: Viking said their pick is in the commissioners, making his
Speaker 1: way to the podium, Chris pick one thirty in the
Speaker 1: first round. Here we go, Yeah, here you go. You
Speaker 1: talked about you talk about Terrence Newman. He's unsigned that
Speaker 1: you know, they need a Nickel guy McKenzie Alexander hasn't
Speaker 1: quite lived up to what they were hoping. So they're
Speaker 1: set on the on the outside with Davia Rhodes. And
Speaker 1: who's our Michigan State corner, Trey Waynes. Yeah, thank you,
Speaker 1: And so Mike Hughes can step in compete for that
Speaker 1: Nickel job right away and get on the field. Dave No, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm hey, and I went hard on guard, but that rhymed.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be a guard. But if it
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be a guard, Dane threw it right there
Speaker 1: for you. And that, I mean, god, that the defense
Speaker 1: is a lot like Jacksonville. That defense is we got
Speaker 1: the Neil Hunter, they got Anthony Bard, they got Eric Kendricks,
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, Xavier Rhodes. So yeah, I mean, damn, And
Speaker 1: I mean obviously you're projecting here, but if Mike Hughes
Speaker 1: plays the way that you think he's capable of, that
Speaker 1: is a really nice combo of guys that can play
Speaker 1: on the outside between him and Rhodes. Who think Xavier
Speaker 1: Rhodes is one of the most underrated players in the
Speaker 1: entire NFL. He's probably a top five corner, Well, guess
Speaker 1: who's back on the clock. Yep, it would be the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots at thirty one, and I basically jumped
Speaker 1: up on the table. I'd be surprised that they pick here.
Speaker 1: To be honest, you think they're gonna back out of
Speaker 1: the picks in the first round and they don't trade
Speaker 1: either one, I'd I'd be surprised. A couple that with
Speaker 1: the fact that everybody in the world expects Philly to
Speaker 1: trade out of thirty two. So you think you get
Speaker 1: back to back trades out of the first round. Who's
Speaker 1: trying to I mean if somebody wanted to trying to
Speaker 1: get the fifth year option. We talk about the guys
Speaker 1: that are still available on my board. I look at
Speaker 1: Harold Landry, Lamar Jackson, James Daniels, and Will Hernandez. Those
Speaker 1: will be guys I've talked about Connor Williams. Those will
Speaker 1: be kind of five guys that I would think. You know,
Speaker 1: the Patriots, they have the opportunity. There's three basically, there's
Speaker 1: a center and two guards and the potential tackle if
Speaker 1: that's what you wanted to wanted to do right there.
Speaker 1: So Harold Dandry's still sitting there staring them in the face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so you know, so maybe there was more more
Speaker 1: injury stuff than uh, you know, we know about you know,
Speaker 1: we know that what's plagued him throughout his senior year.
Speaker 1: You hope not, you hope, uh there's you know, medically
Speaker 1: he was cleared. But maybe that is part of the
Speaker 1: reason why he's sliding a little bit here. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't think of any I mean, okay, I hear you,
Speaker 1: I hear you loud and clear about the run defense.
Speaker 1: But that can't that can't be the reason why he's
Speaker 1: in danger of falling out of the first round. That alone,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I know this is a bad example
Speaker 1: because he didn't pan out, but our kevious main went six. Overall,
Speaker 1: he was the size of a bean stock. Maybe teams
Speaker 1: are learning, maybe, but I when you see a guy
Speaker 1: that can bend the way Harold Landry can, it's kind
Speaker 1: of I mean, it's very surprising that he tested well
Speaker 1: to you know, so the testing numbers matched the tape
Speaker 1: in that respect. But again, if you're a liability versus run,
Speaker 1: teams will find you, you know, and they will run
Speaker 1: it right down your throat. Boston college kids are good players,
Speaker 1: though every time they've ever drafted and they've been good.
Speaker 1: Not questioning his toughness, not questioning you know, his competitive
Speaker 1: drive will to be good. I'm not questioning any of that.
Speaker 1: It's just physical limitations for a guy that's really there
Speaker 1: are several linebackers that are bigger than him, and so
Speaker 1: that's just, you know, this is how things are. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have the other body's strength to uh turn blockers,
Speaker 1: to overwhelm at the point of attack. This is not
Speaker 1: who he is. But at the same time, I'm with you, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm still surprised that he is available at this point.
Speaker 1: The past, what he can do as a pass rusher,
Speaker 1: that type of production should have had him off the
Speaker 1: drive off the board by now. There's too much Is
Speaker 1: there too much value? Again? You mentioned Landry and and
Speaker 1: that's good, but there's just too much value right now
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson. It's just too much. It just as
Speaker 1: a just as a weapon, clearly not just a weapon.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you real quick if Lamar Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: and an agent, you think things would be different right now?
Speaker 1: Do you think that plays the partle with with visits,
Speaker 1: with workouts with it, I mean teams. Do you think
Speaker 1: this team team said they couldn't get in contact with them.
Speaker 1: They couldn't you know, to try to set up workouts
Speaker 1: and then they can't get in contact with I mean,
Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe things are different if he had an agent.
Speaker 1: You can't rule that out completely. I don't think I
Speaker 1: buy it again like that, if you if you can
Speaker 1: do your job well, the NFL finds you, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but maybe for a few teams that were considering him
Speaker 1: in the first round, uh, you know, if they're worried that,
Speaker 1: you know, who's you know, who's whispering in his ear?
Speaker 1: You know what kind of brain trust does he have
Speaker 1: behind him to you know, is it's just something to consider.
Speaker 1: H Yeah, for part of the reason why he's falling
Speaker 1: a little bit. So it's who else has left in
Speaker 1: the green room besides him and Shaq Griffin. There was Conilliams,
Speaker 1: them that were invited. Connor Williams was the vast majority
Speaker 1: of them have been picked. But also going back to
Speaker 1: Brian's point from an hour or so ago, New England's
Speaker 1: pick is in and Lamar Jackson was not on the
Speaker 1: phone just now, so that doesn't sound likely. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: New England's picking to be honest. I mean they Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick moves up, moves down. He rarely stays put, especially
Speaker 1: with two picks in the first round. Speaking of learning,
Speaker 1: maybe he learned that at some point you need to
Speaker 1: add talent to your team. Yeah, all those Super Bowls
Speaker 1: are really wearing on him. Hey, hey, I'm not hating
Speaker 1: because I mean, obviously the Patriots can do whatever they want.
Speaker 1: They've won five freaking super Bowls. But I mean, you
Speaker 1: got a draft guys at some point, right, Like it's
Speaker 1: the same thing with Cleveland not getting cute at four.
Speaker 1: At some point, just add some talent to your roster,
Speaker 1: especially if you're running up on the end of your
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterbacks career, which that day is going
Speaker 1: to be here eventually. Well, the pick has been in
Speaker 1: for a while now, we're just waiting for the commissioner
Speaker 1: to walk to the podium and give it. David's right.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was not on the phone, but the commissioner's walking,
Speaker 1: so let's go hear him talking. Wow, nice, nice one. Ah,
Speaker 1: Tony Michelle, the running back from the University of Georgia.
Speaker 1: I have two thoughts. Yeah, I'll let y'all. First of all,
Speaker 1: New England just gets whatever they want, like they just
Speaker 1: they can. They get nice things out the wazoo too.
Speaker 1: Can't believe Darius Guys is going to be the fourth
Speaker 1: running back. Well, Matt, maybe I can't believe rerunning backs
Speaker 1: went off the board before Darius Guys. He's not getting
Speaker 1: drafted to Night unless he goes to Philly here at
Speaker 1: thirty two, but I know people have been mocking him there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have so interesting pick here with Sony Michelle. You
Speaker 1: think of him as an every down back. You feel
Speaker 1: comfortable leaving him on the field and third downs. He's
Speaker 1: a true north South guy, grinder, balanced, He can help
Speaker 1: you out in the passing game as both a blocker
Speaker 1: and receiver. Needs to work on the fumbles, needs to
Speaker 1: improve his ball security, but he's just an all around
Speaker 1: good player. I think you feel I'm a little surprised
Speaker 1: New England took him here, but I think this is
Speaker 1: the range, you know, between twenty five and forties where
Speaker 1: we saw him coming off the board. Yeah, this guy's
Speaker 1: a tough runner. Explosive two and through the hole, can
Speaker 1: see it and go stop start, quitness, balance, can run
Speaker 1: through tacklers, outstanding quickness. I mean he finishes from all distance,
Speaker 1: can get insider out. Not many chances for receptions. That's
Speaker 1: something teams are gonna have to But he's a willing
Speaker 1: blocker out on the edge. Will go low and cut
Speaker 1: this guy. But kind of a really well built guy
Speaker 1: when you look at him, kind of square tough, you
Speaker 1: know when when he takes some hits, delivers some blows.
Speaker 1: I I have other running backs ahead of him, But
Speaker 1: I can understand the Patriots Again, they're none of those
Speaker 1: teams that don't give a damn what I think about
Speaker 1: their draft board. I hear what you're saying, but you're
Speaker 1: you're you're loaded. You're damn near guarantee to be in
Speaker 1: the AFC title game as long as Tom Brady's healthy.
Speaker 1: I'm really surprised about Lamar Jackson there. But this is
Speaker 1: this is just a fun fricking player, and you're picking
Speaker 1: I mean, you're basically picking in the second round anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I love this pick this. I mean this
Speaker 1: is like, um, who's my guy who should have been
Speaker 1: MVP when they beat Atlanta? James White? Yeah, James White
Speaker 1: on steroids. Yeah, It's like it's the same stuff James
Speaker 1: White can do, but better I think right, so I
Speaker 1: get it. But again, I mean to your point, one
Speaker 1: of these days Tom Brady is gonna be done playing, right,
Speaker 1: So how useful is a gadget back if you don't
Speaker 1: have a quarterback who can get him the ball? Well,
Speaker 1: and with Sonny Michelle, I mean you have to There
Speaker 1: were some teams that had him off the board as
Speaker 1: the Medicals, and so apparently here's a trade. It's one
Speaker 1: of them. Baltimore going to get Lamar. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: but Dallas got No, it's a Kayan Hurst. Like we said,
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton. With the amount of dealing Philly has done,
Speaker 1: it seemed Howie Roseman was desperate to get out of
Speaker 1: this pick. He needs some more draft capital. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: it looks like now again, like David and Dane said,
Speaker 1: Baltimore is now on the clock. We are in the
Speaker 1: final pick. That's Baltimore's third trade of tonight. By the way, Ozzie,
Speaker 1: he's going out with a bang. Ozzie's traded more times
Speaker 1: tonight than the Cowboys have in the last like five
Speaker 1: drafts combined. Well, here we are, the Ravens are on
Speaker 1: the clock. I'd be really interested to see what direction
Speaker 1: did they go to with I keep talking about the
Speaker 1: quarterback here. Why would you do this if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for a quarter back? But that's what I said about
Speaker 1: Maybe they're trying what I said about the Saints two
Speaker 1: hours ago. Yeah, well, let's kind of let's reset. Who
Speaker 1: are the some of the guys. We've talked a bunch
Speaker 1: about Harold Landry. They need help on the offensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they got a choice there, I mean Daniels both
Speaker 1: and then we've also talked about Connor Williams. Yeah, Connor
Speaker 1: Williams is still there. So I mean you're you're looking
Speaker 1: at guys that are potentially uh you know, they need
Speaker 1: a right tackle. Yeah. Um, And so Connor Williams did
Speaker 1: make a ton of sense here. If that's a direction
Speaker 1: they go, I wonder what they gave up, because they
Speaker 1: moved up a good chunk. So they went from the
Speaker 1: they went from them, their second and their third most likely.
Speaker 1: Well let's see, so they're picking and they added Hayden
Speaker 1: Hurst earlier. Yes, right, okay, right, so there isn't Goddard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they if they if if they went on their spot
Speaker 1: where they're picking is at fifty two. So do you
Speaker 1: think they went on. Do you think that you don't
Speaker 1: think it? Maybe next year's one involved here. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't think they had to. I think they trade their
Speaker 1: second and the third to get here, right, I think
Speaker 1: that would have been enough. Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: right about that, the second and the third. So the
Speaker 1: second though, if i'm again, there's so many trades. We
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta get my chart right here. I think
Speaker 1: that was the tenth of the night. Yeah, it's close.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, the picks in, we'll figure this all out.
Speaker 1: Baltimore has made so many trades. I gotta get my
Speaker 1: trade chart right again. There comes Roger, Here comes the commiscial.
Speaker 1: This would be the last pick of the night, should
Speaker 1: be hey, well there he goes Lamar Jackson, the very
Speaker 1: talented quarterback from the University of Louisville. Kind of a
Speaker 1: little bit of a saying, remember Teddy Bridgewater, very similar, right,
Speaker 1: that's right. The VIKI straight it up to the last
Speaker 1: pick in the first round, and twenty fourteen NFL Draft
Speaker 1: took Teddy Bridgewater. Here we go with the Ravens trading
Speaker 1: up another another purple team trading to pick thirty two
Speaker 1: to get their quarterback. You're Joe Flacco. You're like, huh, yeah,
Speaker 1: what but too bad? Joe play better? Uh So Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: he's going to Baltimore. Aussie. Newsom, in his final first
Speaker 1: round as a general manager, takes Hayden Hurst and then
Speaker 1: trades back in for Lamar Jackson. Kind of like what
Speaker 1: they did. Sure, I mean, I mean because I mean
Speaker 1: I like Lamar Jackson very much in the first round
Speaker 1: then and then Hayden Hurst was my my best tight end.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm totally okay with with what they with
Speaker 1: what they did right there with the Rays pH Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson and my draft board. Guess where he was thirty two? Yeah? God, Dan,
Speaker 1: you're so good. We're gonna lose you to an NFL team.
Speaker 1: I love this pick. I mean, anytime you do something
Speaker 1: like this, that's this. This is what the Saints should
Speaker 1: have done. And if Marcus, if Marcus Davenford is Reggie White,
Speaker 1: I'll apologize, but I just I love this. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't need him to play right now, but he
Speaker 1: could certainly you could certainly find something for him to
Speaker 1: do as a rookie. And this is I know Ozzie
Speaker 1: Newsom is getting ready to retire. But this is one
Speaker 1: of the more stable franchises in the NFL. This is
Speaker 1: a great place for him to develop. Two quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: going to be linked a little bit. Yeah, in the
Speaker 1: AFC North Baker Mayfield went one, absolutely, Lamar Jackson went
Speaker 1: thirty two, the final pick in the first round. Those
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks are going to be compared over the next
Speaker 1: how many years as rookies from this class. One went
Speaker 1: at the first pick, one went the last pick in
Speaker 1: the first round, And we'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 1: Which also going back to my point, he's in the
Speaker 1: AFC where he's only the Cowboys problem. Actually, Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: and Lamar how many how many quarterbacks drafted tonight are
Speaker 1: going to be the Cowboys problem on a regular basis?
Speaker 1: Any of them? No, not a single one. No, that
Speaker 1: is that's music to my ears. Two years after Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz was drafted into this division. I'm serious. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't want any part of one of those top
Speaker 1: four guys going to New York, and I didn't want
Speaker 1: any part of Lamar Jackson winding up there. Because they're
Speaker 1: picking at the top of the second round. I mean
Speaker 1: that's big stuff. If you're a Cowboys fan in my opinion,
Speaker 1: because one of those multiple of these guys are gonna
Speaker 1: hit and even bigger. If you put your paycheck on
Speaker 1: the over on four and a half quarterback going in
Speaker 1: the first round, you're pretty happy right now. Good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Baltimore came to your rescue. Yeah, absolutely, you were, you were.
Speaker 1: You were sweating at the very end. Let me go
Speaker 1: back from recap some of these picks. Dane mentioned Baltimore
Speaker 1: at twenty five with a trade to Tennessee from with
Speaker 1: Tennessee took Haydon Hurst. Then Atlanta at twenty six took
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, The Seattle Seahawks took Rashad Penny, the running
Speaker 1: back from San Diego State. Pittsburgh took Terrell Edmonds Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: Tevin Bryant, the very talented defensive tackle from Florida. Minnesota
Speaker 1: took Mike Hughes, quarterback from Central Florida, New England, at
Speaker 1: thirty one, Sony Michelle, running back from Georgia, and then
Speaker 1: the final pick of the night to end the first round.
Speaker 1: In this round began at seven oh seven, it ends
Speaker 1: at ten thirty seven, So faster than your average first round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Lamar Jackson quarterback. Uh is the final pick the
Speaker 1: Ravens trade to the Philadelphi Eagles. Will get all the
Speaker 1: particulars on that trade. Shut real quick. So you're talking
Speaker 1: about times. Casper in Denmark just tweeted us and said
Speaker 1: he's heading a bed at five thirty five am. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much, Casper. We will be back with you
Speaker 1: tomorrow night for sure on that. Okay, as we u
Speaker 1: we reset the board. Yeah, I want you, Dane. I
Speaker 1: want you to reset what we've got going into tomorrow again.
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns, Yeah, we'll be on the clock tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And so they got thirty four and thirty three and
Speaker 1: thirty four thirty five. You're right, Yeah, that's right from Houston,
Speaker 1: the thirty three and thirty five with the giants in between. Uh, Dane,
Speaker 1: kind of reset what you got and I will throw
Speaker 1: out what I have. The top guy available as Harold Landry.
Speaker 1: But I think there's some medicals involved here. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: has to be about I asked. I take that back,
Speaker 1: because I asked about him and he had a high
Speaker 1: ankle spring and the check on the high ankle was okay,
Speaker 1: so maybe more something else going, maybe more, but it
Speaker 1: was a high ankle and I heard things were okay,
Speaker 1: So Cleveland. Cleveland didn't get Bradley Chubb. Harold Landry maybe
Speaker 1: could be nice consolation. Absolutely so Harold Landry's top available.
Speaker 1: James Daniels is two, Maurice Hearst is three, although with
Speaker 1: hers again the medical situation. Four Will Hernandez the guard
Speaker 1: from Utah. Five Darius Geiss running back LSU six, I
Speaker 1: have Ronald Jones USC running back. Seven, Josh Jackson corner
Speaker 1: from Iowa. Dallas Goddard number eight tight end from South
Speaker 1: Dakota State, nine Isaiah Oliver corner from Colorado, and then
Speaker 1: ten Anthony Miller wide receiver Memphis. So if you're the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you're sitting there. Only two wide receivers came off the
Speaker 1: board in the first round. You start thinking about if
Speaker 1: the Earl Thomas thing, that's not an option right, Think about, shoot,
Speaker 1: did DeMarcus Lawrence, which we talked about, You got your linebacker,
Speaker 1: go get your wide receiver, whether that's Courtland Sutton and
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller. I prefer Anthony Miller. I would not be
Speaker 1: shy trading two and three to move up in the
Speaker 1: second round to get my guy. I really that's something
Speaker 1: I'm circling, and hey, let's target a spot. Then if
Speaker 1: we can, let's pat ourselves on the back because we're
Speaker 1: wrong as hell all the time. But I think we
Speaker 1: said at the top of this that Layton vander Esch
Speaker 1: and Vita Vea or the two names that we felt
Speaker 1: really strongly about going into tonight, and I just sort
Speaker 1: of have if the opportunity presents itself, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: shocked if the Cowboys use pick eighty one to get
Speaker 1: a receiver they feel, well, let's look at again we've targed.
Speaker 1: When we did the show from Henry's Tavern the other day,
Speaker 1: we talked about the Colts. Yeah, Colt's own pick thirty
Speaker 1: six and thirty seven. Could this be a spot where
Speaker 1: we see them trade up for Courtland Suddon. Let's to
Speaker 1: say thirty seven because it's a cheaper pick. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's a thirteen spot jump. Okay, let me talk to
Speaker 1: you about that, David. From fifty to thirty seven. Somebody
Speaker 1: helped me with the Matthew. If you want to go
Speaker 1: to thirty seven, it's five thirty on the pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: for the thirty seven you own four hundred, so one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one hundred and thirty. Your third round
Speaker 1: pick at eighty one is worth one hundred and eighty five. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's an overpay. So it's overpay, but it might be
Speaker 1: a situation where you could get them to flip something
Speaker 1: back to you. So you send Tom eighty one and
Speaker 1: they send you. Yeah, we have the whole selection thing
Speaker 1: right here. What if they send you their their next
Speaker 1: pick and the say, their fifth round pick. How many
Speaker 1: points different are we talking days? Well, Indie picks in
Speaker 1: the fifth round at one forty yea, So what's the number.
Speaker 1: What was the number of difference on that? That's only
Speaker 1: worth thirty seven points right there? So that actually that works.
Speaker 1: That's math. That works pretty well. Okay. So so eighty
Speaker 1: one is worth one eighty five, yes, and fifty is
Speaker 1: worth four hundred yes. And you're talking about one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty points difference, right, So if you get how
Speaker 1: many points for the fifth rounder, for the fifth rounder
Speaker 1: you get for them, it would be thirty seven. So,
Speaker 1: I mean it's still an overpay, but you feel better
Speaker 1: about it. You're gonna so you're making I mean, you're
Speaker 1: overpaying by twenty to thirty points instead of fifty or sixty,
Speaker 1: which that's negligible. Yeah. Absolutely. The thing is is INDI's
Speaker 1: the one with the pick. Are they gonna be willing
Speaker 1: to play ball? Just because that's what the chart says
Speaker 1: you should do, It doesn't mean you have to. Because
Speaker 1: we saw what happened Oakland bail. They should have got
Speaker 1: a two and a five for their drop back, right,
Speaker 1: and then they got a three and of five right.
Speaker 1: And that's so if people sleeping on their boards tonight,
Speaker 1: you know, Dane just gave you ten names, you go back.
Speaker 1: I just you go back to DeMarcus Lawrence. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: overpaid because they thought he was the last guy in
Speaker 1: the draft that fit their criteria for what they wanted.
Speaker 1: So if that's how they feel about Courtland Sutton or
Speaker 1: we'll say Anthony Miller too, if that's how they feel,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll overpay if they think it's going to get
Speaker 1: the job done for the guy that they have to have.
Speaker 1: D rather that they go get Courtland Sutton or Will Hernandez,
Speaker 1: Oh will Hernandez Rnandez still sitting there, Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: get her. Just play that game. How about James Daniels? Yeah? Whatever,
Speaker 1: I think there must be a medical thing with Daniels.
Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff Kavanaugh would shut the hell up real quick
Speaker 1: if they did that. Huh, get your linebacker and your
Speaker 1: offensive line right. Uh. In my my report on him,
Speaker 1: he underwent right knee surgery before the two sixteen season,
Speaker 1: had torn meniscus. Uh, you want miss some time ten
Speaker 1: seventeen with a nice sprain. You just wonder if maybe
Speaker 1: the knee was red flag. We'll see, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: just real okay, So will Hernandez and James Daniels, Courtland
Speaker 1: Sutton and Anthony Miller. Yeah, um, thank you, DJ Charks
Speaker 1: probably and then Dark and absolutely totally dismissed them. Can't
Speaker 1: totally dismiss Christian Kirk for that matter. Sure, um, anybody
Speaker 1: else we're forgetting. Tell you what, whenever a show to morrow,
Speaker 1: We're all right, you're right, let's not give away the
Speaker 1: Yeah wait wait, I'm gonna give away you guys are
Speaker 1: going in some great I'm just I'm just excited, ya,
Speaker 1: I'm just I love it. I love it, and I
Speaker 1: want to see what they do well that is, yeah,
Speaker 1: that will be. That's gonna be a rap for tonight.
Speaker 1: Then again, the Dallas Cowboys at nineteen overall. Take Layton Vanderish,
Speaker 1: the linebacker from Boise State. We'll have reports and analysis
Speaker 1: up on Dallas Cowby nights. Just getting started. We're just
Speaker 1: getting started here. You're absolutely right. Tomorrow we will have
Speaker 1: a draft show, a special draft show at one o'clock,
Speaker 1: so we'll go from one to two. We'll kind of
Speaker 1: talk reset, reset, Thursday, we're gonna talk about maybe some
Speaker 1: trade possibilities, kind of just rehash some things. Maybe feel
Speaker 1: like that at some directions that maybe some of these
Speaker 1: teams can go and kind of figure some things out.
Speaker 1: And then tomorrow night draft coverage starts again at six
Speaker 1: o'clock is when the draft opens. We'll be on the
Speaker 1: air at five thirty. Love it. We got a lot
Speaker 1: going on. So for my scouting buddies, Dane Burglar, for
Speaker 1: David Hellman, Brian Brows, Kick Garrison executive producer. I want
Speaker 1: to thank everybody too out there, a lot of folks
Speaker 1: working very hard for to put this on the air.
Speaker 1: We are pre shade everyone here at Dallas Cowboys. It
Speaker 1: works so hard for all the things. We will be
Speaker 1: back tomorrow. We'll have a draft show at one o'clock
Speaker 1: and reset some things and then we'll be back at
Speaker 1: five thirty to start rounds two and three, so already
Speaker 1: have a good evening and we'll see you then