WEBVTT - 2018 Draft Day LIVE: Round 1 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.480 The following is a production of the Dallas Cowboys Media 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:18.239 Group and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Welcome to Dallas 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.720 Cowboys dot COM's live Bumper to bumper coverage of the 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:27.320 NFL Draft with David Hellman, Dane Brugler, Cowboys coaches, draft picks, 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:32.720 and special guests. Now your host, Brian brought Ian brought us. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.839 It is in moments of decision that your destiny is shaped. 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:44.040 Welcome to the two thousand and eighteen NFL Draft. That's 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.560 a new tradition, isn't it? Just that love that? Don't hello? 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:51.040 Dramatic words of wisdom from somebody who was Thomas Paine 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.600 last year. Yeah, I love it. I love it. I 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.800 couldn't wait for to night just for that. You like that, 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:57.760 you like that high open these drafts? All right, all right, 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.760 let's go home. We're done for the night. Yes, you 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.200 do have the Draft Show presented by Miller Ltte. It 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.399 is the twenty eighteen NFL Drafts. I'm so happy to 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.679 be with my scouting buddies who've made this journey with me, 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.840 uh since really December and then we started doing these 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.920 shows in January to get to these days. Don't sell 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.240 Dane short. You know I'm looking at I know, I know, 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.440 but I'm just talking about our little group, our little 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.560 our little band of scouts, our little Scouting department here 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.839 has done, I think a great job of putting together 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.200 some boards, some ideas, uh you know, maybe where some 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:33.880 of these guys are gonna go. We're gonna have a 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.600 lot of fun doing this for the next three days. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:41.080 So I'm really happy that everybody's out there with us. Uh, guys, 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.600 if you dive into this thing right off the bat, 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.240 and again we're we're about, you know, twenty three minutes 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.880 away from getting really involved with this. When you when 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.320 you look at things that have happened earlier, some of 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.600 the things that we're starting to hear, and we kind 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.240 of thought all along, okay, the quarterbacks, where the quarterbacks 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.560 gonna go? What what place are they gonna be? Where? 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.440 You know, how's this draft gonna be shaped? And allustin 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:10.160 you get the news of Baker Mayfield is going off 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:14.679 potentially is the first overall pick. And I and I 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.520 can't think that we ever really talked about Baker Mayfield 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.920 being the first overall pick or potentially not being the 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.440 first overall pick, not once, not never, and I don't 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:29.720 know that it's because of anything necessarily with Baker Mayfield, right, 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.600 we were just so locked into Sam Darnold right as being. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.520 I mean, we talked a little bit about Josh Allen 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.040 when those rumors started to heat up. I don't think 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.560 we ever took those two seriously, But we locked in 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.840 on Sam Darnold so much that you know, we didn't 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.640 we didn't really talk that much about Baker, like you said, Yeah, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.560 and that's my buddy John Dorsey up there in Cleveland, 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.239 and he's kept this pick pretty quiet. Yeah, and that's 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.960 that's what he's always done. And he's always done that. Yeah. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:03:00.520 He we saw last year with the trade. Yeah, you know, nobody, everybody, 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.480 nobody saw that thing coming from where it came. And 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.600 so yeah, I feel like though that you know, they 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.639 depending on you know, guys like Chris Mortenson reporting Will 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.600 John knew his guy six weeks ago and told the owner. 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.040 You know, he this timeline of kind of mad if 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.639 you're Hugh Jackson and you didn't know until two days ago, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.960 you know what. I think John was really worried about 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.519 Hugh Jackson. I think he was worried about the league. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.000 I really don't I think that he John John is 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.120 like like Dane says, you know, and I was with 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.840 John and Green Bay. John is very protective of that board. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.120 He is very protective of that board, and he didn't 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.560 want a situation where you know, people were you know, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.400 getting out scrutinizing the pick. Now again, the pick has 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.600 to still be made. But it looks like all indications 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.400 as we as we get ready to go on the 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.520 clock here in a little bit that the Cleveland Browns 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.760 are going to take Baker Mayfield at quarterbacks. It does 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.520 because I posted my draft board today and I didn't 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.440 have Baker may He is my fifth quarterback of that group. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.120 So yeah, that would surprise me. Now again I'll tell 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.960 you the story about John Dorsey here as we is 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.600 again as we make our way to the to the 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.240 top of the hour, I know that John Dorsey was 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:16.400 looking at a situation where at Cleveland they have a terrible, 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:22.080 terrible culture, you know, one win in two years. Yeah, John, 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.520 it was important to John, and I do know this 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.159 for a fact. It was important to John that he 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.040 had a player that could go into that locker room 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.599 when things were bad and the teammates would believe in 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.680 him no matter how bad it was, that he was 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.000 all and that player was always going to believe that 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.760 quarterback was always going to believe he was in every game. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.800 Where did you work with John Dorsey Green Bay? Who 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:48.320 is your quarterback? Brett farf Okay, that that I mean? 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.080 And you don't want to put that on Baker Mayfield, 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.720 but I did. And that's because that's what a lot 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:56.560 of people wanted to paint a picture of what John 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.679 Dorsey wants in a quarterback. And John Dorsey likes heightweight, speed, 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.960 we know that, but in other positions when we talk 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.000 about the quarterback position, he wants winners, right, And with 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.400 Baker Mayfield thirty four and six as a starter at Oklahoma, 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.960 three Big Twelve titles to playoff appearances, he's a winner. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.120 And so it's no surprise at all to me that 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.039 Baker Mayfield is in consideration here and that John Dorsey 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.359 likes him A little surprising that if he ends up 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:24.840 being the number one pick. Sure, I think that is 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.440 a little surprising, just because I think we were so 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.520 settled in on Darnold being that guy. But it does 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.680 it should not surprise us. That's what makes this interesting 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.280 to me. Is not so much that Baker Mayfield is 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.480 allegedly going to be the number one overall pick. But again, 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:40.880 and I'm stating the obvious a little bit here, but 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:42.920 it only takes one pick to turn this whole thing 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.359 on its head. And so you're not just talking about 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.680 number one, but all of a sudden, what else have 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.320 we heard? We've heard that the quarterback the Giants, the 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.200 only quarterback that they're interested in drafting is darn Well. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.000 For a month and a half, we were, well, get 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:59.680 in line, you're not getting him because the Browns are 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.120 Now what now Giants are taking a quarterback? Maybe maybe 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.040 they're less willing to trade out of that pick or 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.720 draft sae Quon Barkley two overall. I mean it changes 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.880 every and then you know, if Sam Darnold's the second 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.360 quarterback taken, now that changes. You know, We've been slotting 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.640 Baker Mayfield into the Jets at three for a month 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.400 and a half. Sure, well, what I mean, do they 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.520 like Josh Rosen enough to draft him? Yeah? I think 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.440 this is gonna be h Allen, do you think do 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:27.080 you think that the Giants are It's gonna sound crazy 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:28.840 because that has the second overall pick do you think 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:32.280 they're in a bad spot because now they're they're struggling 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.559 with that. They maybe didn't see Baker Mayfield going ahead 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.640 of them. Do you think now, I mean they've done all? 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.080 Or are they going to stand in there and pick 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.080 that running back? It's their fault if they didn't see 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:43.440 this coming. You know, you've got to be prepared for 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.840 every scenario. I don't think it's never a bad thing 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.159 picking two. You know, there's one player off the board, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.159 and I don't think the Giants, assuming it's Baker Mayfield. 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.400 I don't think the Giants were taking Baker Mayfield. What 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.840 it does if you're the Giants, it opens up possibilities 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.640 for trades. There you go, and so are already being 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.040 discussed on Twitter sphere if you're looking in the right places. 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.640 And Dave Gettlman, I have a hard time seeing Buffalo 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.400 going up, just because I don't think Dave Gettlman wants 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:08.720 to trade out of the top ten. Yeah. I don't 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.440 think he does either. But if Denver comes calling at 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.880 pick number five, sure, because if that happens, quarterbacks are 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.920 going one, two, three, and you're guaranteed if you're the Giants, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:22.040 you're guaranteed sake one Berkeley, Bradley Chubb, whoever, you know, 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.160 whatever non quarterback you want there, assuming they want a 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.640 non quarterback, right, you're guaranteed, you know, one of those 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.080 top guys at number five. So it's a lot easier 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.480 to trade back from two to five. Feel good about 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.840 the guy you're getting, plus whatever they're getting the trade. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.840 It's in my best interest as a Cowboys reporter for 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:43.119 the Giants to not do this but just draft Sam Darnold. Idiots. Yeah, 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.000 I mean like that, I would. Why aren't we talking 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.320 about that? I mean we're like I just said, it 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.720 was a foregone conclusion. He's been I mean, he's your 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.000 QB one, and it's been a foregone conclusion for six 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.120 weeks that he's not going to be available to you. 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.120 And now he's about to fall in your lap and 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.880 you don't want him your quarterbacks thirty seven and he's 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.600 been trending downward for three years? Yeah, what are you doing? 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.920 See what the hell's going on? Yeah? To me, this 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.800 is you know, if you're like Dane always says, you 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.520 don't want to be in this position again, you don't 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.640 want to be draft in two overall, and so do 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.880 you know, do you make hey and go ahead and say, Okay, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.440 we're gonna take this quarterback and we're gonna sit him 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.240 for a year, sit him for two years and then 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.280 kind of figure things out. If you don't if if 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.600 if you're the Giants and you don't draft a quarterback, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.559 you're limiting yourself to like a two maybe three year 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.120 window where you might be competitive with Eli Manning. But 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.000 that's and this goes back to the Tony Romo conversation. 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.240 And you know, we all thought, and it's worked out 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.080 for other reasons, but we thought Tony Romo would have 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:49.960 two or three years to compete with Zeke and it 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.880 was a game. Yeah, so good point. I just think 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.080 that's the lunacy and and and the Cowboys of twenty 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.480 sixteen were a lot more ready to compete, I think 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.400 than the Giants of twenty eighteen. So I just just 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.800 draft your quarterback. Guys. I don't know why, I don't 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.520 know what you're thinking, but yeah I can't. And again, yeah, 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.080 if I'm I want, I want the Giants to draft 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.400 sae Quon Barkley or trade out of that pick and 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.880 draft Bradley Chubb, because it means they're not going to 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.000 be as good as quick in my opinion, you can 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.640 throw this back at me in the fall if they 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.720 start six and oh but I just, I just I don't. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.960 This seems like a no brainer to me. Yeah, I 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.520 just you know, John Dorsey will be He'll be judged 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.200 on this decision. I mean, there's clearly he will be. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.520 He will be. Hey, you know, in the history for 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.440 Cleveland Browns and and Dame Burglar has lived it, you know. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.440 Last the last Browns general manager to have I think 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:46.160 four years at the four year ten year was uh, 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.480 I like fifteen years ago. I can't remember exactly when, 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.000 but it's been a while. I mean, you just you 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.840 don't have a long leash here if you're John Dorsey. So, yeah, 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.040 he's tied to Baker Mayfield for better or for worse, 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.319 for better, for worse. Not to mention this is I mean, 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:04.080 you can't draft a non prototypical quarterback any higher than this. Yeah, 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.360 this is I mean, this is going to be the 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:09.800 highest that a non prototype has ever gone. I mean, okay, oh, sure, 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.400 you can throw Drew Brees at me all you want, 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.320 Russ second round, yeah, second round, second round, Yeah, exactly. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.160 I mean, there there are. You have Baker Mayfield as 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.560 a one or two. There you go. I mean you 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.840 could you could argue that fifteen is ambitious for him, 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.600 just based on size and all that time and the 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.000 offense that he played in. Yeah, you're gonna draft him one. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.480 That's a that's a that's an old school scout banging 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:34.240 his head against the wall right there. But although John Dorsey, yeah, 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.120 I know, and and John and I were together, I 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.079 mean that this We said this off the air, though, 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.360 and I think we all agree. Maybe you might not, 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:45.079 mister Lake affect snow wind Man, Me and Dane are 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.720 on the same page. If I'm if I'm not drafting 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.600 Rosen or Darnold one, if I'm picking between Alan and Baker, 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.680 sure me Baker every time. Yeah I don't. Oh no, 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.720 you guys clearly don't like I don't like him at all. Okay, 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:01.839 that's not one. Not on the top ten. No, on 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:05.240 my draft board. Baker Mayfield's ten overall. So I don't 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.520 think this is a huge reach. Um, you know, I 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.040 think he's deserving a top ten consideration. He's my Darnald, 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.160 my clear top quarterback. And then I've gone back and 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.280 forth with Rosen and Mayfield throughout the process. I started 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.439 Mayfield over Rosen. I finished Rosen slightly ahead of Mayfield 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.800 nine ten on my board. So two and three are 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.760 very close. And then Josh Allen's a distant fourth down 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.080 at the bottom of the first round. So you know, 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:32.480 I again, I get it. I understand why if Baker Mayfield, 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.840 if he is the pick, I certainly understand it. And 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.480 it's going to be fun to watch. And you know, 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.480 you think about some of the moves the Browns made. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.680 Jervis Landry S was more of a within ten yards 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.280 of the line of scrimmage type of guy. Absolutely Baker Mayfield. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.840 I mean that Jervis Landry right into his game. Yeah, 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.800 anything underneath and my mediot right, Yeah, what did Baker 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.680 have at Oklahoma Mark Andrews. Yeah, a guy that could 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.560 go down the se go down the seam and be 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.800 a kind of a safety valve. David and Joku draft 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.080 in the first round last year. Yeah, he's poised to 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.760 really kind of have a breakout season the NFL and 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.320 year two. So I think the offense is set up 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.280 well for it. The only thing that is the question 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.760 mark is the offensive line. U in Cleveland they lost 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.240 Joe Thomas, they lost a lot of pieces. That's he 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.840 had a strong offensive line in Norman. He's not going 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.800 to have that in Cleveland right now, so they need 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.360 to protect him. Kind of keeping an eye on what's 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.959 going on at the AT and T Stadium there. That's 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.240 pretty nice, It looks very nice. I think the NFL 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:34.800 did a heck of a job and I know the 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.000 folks are going to have a good time everybody hanging out. 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:41.920 I saw a graphic just flash by that. The rumor 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.800 is that the Broncos are trying to get to the 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:49.040 Giants pick at two Darnel. Yeah, so keep an eye 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.080 on that one right there. Again, this is so we're 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.520 about twelve minutes away from the Commissioner Goodell going to 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.960 the podium and uh and officially opening this draft up. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.000 You think it's gonna make any difference to the people 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.640 in attendance that if he comes out with Jason Witten 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.000 and Roger Staubach, Well, I think there's a lot of 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.000 there's a lot of folks in Dallas that really doesn't 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.320 appreciate what he did to their football team last year. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.280 The answers, no, yeah, it's not gonna I was trying 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.559 to be diplomatic about it. Lick a difference. Yeah, I 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.560 don't know if it's going to be at all. The 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.200 Dallas Cowboys are picking nineteen in this draft, and I 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.120 you know, we've we've kind of touched on a lot 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:31.079 of different scenarios, Dane. When you know, we we've kind 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.000 of learned about talking with Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.959 that that Vitaveya has made an appearance as a as 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.920 a possibility. Now I feel like that vita Vea is 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.720 going to have to dodge the mine field, you know, 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.760 and tell me if I'm wrong, Dane. Of like the 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:53.320 Washington Redskins at thirteen starts at ten, really think so Oakland, Yeah, 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.160 you want to go that high and he has a possibility, 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.080 so Miami in there, team. I'm just kind of I'm 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.160 just kind of you know, John Gruden seems like to me, 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.079 every time John Ruin has ever been a draft, he 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.480 sits in drafts offensive players. You know, I just gotta 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.720 feel like that that. But so, but if you're saying 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.640 it starts in ten, you know I wouldn't I wouldn't 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.360 dispute what you're saying right there. But I feel like 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.920 though that you know, he seems like the guy that 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:21.400 they like, but probably the most unrealistic guy getting to them, 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.120 probably because I mean they love Derwin James too, but 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.320 that's gonna have to be a trade up there as well. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.920 I think he's a little more realistic than Derwin, but 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.760 I'd be pretty surprised if he's there at nineteen. You 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.640 mentioned h Washington. I think Los Angeles the Chargers. Yeah, 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.400 I think the Chargers are seventeen. They watched the Chargers tonight, folks, 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.440 because the Chargers could take a player that you really like. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.640 They're always unpredictable. They are very unpredictable there. But they 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.400 also they were in the mix. And I know in 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:52.480 your mock draft you were talking about with Layton Vanderesh 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.560 they were going to the Chargers. And that's a guy 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.320 that's kind of been tied to the Cowboys. I know 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.240 we've tied him to the team here the last the 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.960 last a couple of shows that we've done, the draft 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.920 shows that we've done. So keep an eye on the 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:09.360 Chargers tonight as a team that could potentially steal a 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:13.440 guy that you might want in the first round. Chargers 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.080 thirty first in the league last year against the run. Yeah, 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.720 so that's why we just mentioned Vita Vea and while 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.800 we mentioned Layton Vanderesh, two guys that will help them 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:23.680 get better in the run game. They need help in 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.640 both nose tackle and at the linebacker positions. So yeah, 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.400 I think you're absolutely spot on with that. Chargers could 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.240 take one of those two players that the Cowboys have 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.840 their eye on. What's the highest? You could see vander 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:39.760 Esch going seventeen. I can see him going eleven, Wow, Miami. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.520 It depends on when. Okay, so I think Roquan good 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.640 chance he's gone at six Indianapolis. I think it's a 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:50.880 perfect fit for Mattieberflus, the defensive coordinator, what he's doing there. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.600 Should we be shocked if Vanderesh goes off the board 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:58.720 before Tremaine Edmonds, even after all of this, it's a 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.160 little surprising. Yeah, yeah, I just if Edmonds has always 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.680 been tied to the forty nine ers at nine, I 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.560 think nine and ten. Edmonds I think goes one of 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.080 those two spots. And then once those two linebackers are 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:15.120 off the board, Vanderesh's open season eleven Miami, thirteen, Washington, 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.440 and then you know, we start to go through the 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.560 mine field of the teams before we get to nineteen. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.680 So uh, and there's been a lot of chatter this 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.520 week about the medicals, but I've reached out to teams, 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.280 You've reached out to teams. Does not sound like for 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.760 the majority of teams it's going to be an issue. Yeah. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.520 And then per per this organization had a chance to 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.280 visit with them about Layton Vanderesh and they give him 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:44.440 a no issue on the neck. So that is if 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.440 you're a Layton Vanderesh fan, that would be good news 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.320 for you. He is, he's clean to be selected and 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.040 at nineteen we've kind of always talked about him being 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:58.400 that guy. Do you guys feel like though we've kind 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.320 of held strong with the whole theory of defense first 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:07.399 linebacker first in this because of the depth of the position. 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.320 I know we've worn that out talking about the wide 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:15.000 receivers and potentially, hey, could you come back in you 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:19.399 know tomorrow tomorrow night. First, I think first preference is 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:23.280 going to be defense based on the need, the depth 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.119 of the position, the I mean, the quality of the 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.920 players for that matter. I mean Vida Veya's best defensive 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:32.159 tackle in the draft. Absolutely, so there's that and then 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.000 just but you got to see who gets to you 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.920 because and I think you know, if if Vya and 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.760 vander esh are gone for over Sean Evans in there, 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.320 if you want to if I think you started looking 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.480 at wide receivers, yeah, I think you look at wide receivers. 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.640 Kind of got the opinion though that. And we've talked 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:54.720 about We've talked about the Boston college kid Landry. Yeah, everybody, 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.760 everybody really likes Landry, but it seems like to me 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.080 kind of getting a vibe that they'd have to be 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.719 wiped out to potentially grab a guy like Landry. I 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.280 think that bothers you done it a little bit. Yeah, 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.000 I don't love it. I don't love I mean if 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.439 I don't love the thought that he's like a last resort, 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.879 because I think he's better than that. Likes and you 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.720 mentioned him not being strong against the run. I don't care. 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.359 Nineteen overall, you get a guy that's capable of double 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.320 digit sacks, teach him to play the run later. Yeah, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.880 let Tyrone Crawford play the run. This guy go gets sacks. Yeah, 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:29.880 that's why you draft guys in the first round. Anyway, 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.920 I've been saying this for the last month. I think ideally, 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.320 in an ideal world, it's linebacker, wide receiver of first 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.720 two rounds. Uh, probably in that order, but not necessarily 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.280 in that order. Um, you know, if they get wiped out, 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.879 I think DJ Moore that's who I'm looking at it 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.520 in nineteen. That's and that's I think their preference. I 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.159 think Dave Hellman will be happy about that, would be well, 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.320 It's funny I had this conversation off the air. I 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.200 would be thrilled because I love him as a player. 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.280 I think he's great. Don't think he'd be good right away, 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.159 and I think he'd be a big part of the 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.240 offense going forward. But my first he's not my first 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:03.879 choice for what I think this team needs in the 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.959 first round. Sure, because I, like I keep saying, I'm 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.919 a broken record. I think you can win games with 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.240 the receivers here, and especially you can find a guy 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:16.360 tomorrow or maybe even Saturday, hopefully tomorrow that can do 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.840 the job for you, you know. I And so I'd 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.240 much rather have a linebacker or a defensive tackle in 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.800 the first round based on need and what's available. In 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.560 my final mok Landry off the board, Vey off the board, 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.080 Van Drush off the board More and Rashaun Evans are 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:36.320 sitting there. Which direction would you rather than go? That's tough. 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.439 That's it's tough because like Evans, Evans makes more sense 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.440 based on not just this team, but the landscape of 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.040 the draft. I'm just trying to poke holes and everything 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.480 you just said. I know, but I do a good job, 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.080 by the way, Like like early in the draft, in 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.720 my heart, my heart's on the table like DJ more DJ, 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.280 and my head is like, no, we need to pick Evans, 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:59.640 like and I'd probably and that's Evans and no, literally, 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:01.520 I I would hand it in like my homework to 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:05.840 my teacher, like here you go, Like like DJ Moore 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.280 is like a new video game and Rashaan Evans is 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.520 like a new pair of dress shoes. You know, You're 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.920 like I need these, but I'd rather be playing FIFA, 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.920 you know, So like yeah, no, you're welcome. You can 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.480 use that. I mean, I mocked I mocked Evans in 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.280 our final look our final guests, which I'm not super 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.879 confident that's gonna be right, but I just that's the 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.320 idea that I have. You're thinking they're gonna go again 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.080 on what they did last year, they feel like it's 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.879 very similar to the taco, And okay, hate on the taco, 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.320 pick all you want, but if it looks a lot better, 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.600 would you agree It looks a lot better when you 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.159 factor in that drafting Taco at twenty eight, got you 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:47.399 Cheeto and Jordan Lewis right, right, No, I totally agree 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.720 with you. So if I tell you you can get, 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.800 you're gonna you're gonna draft Rashaun Evans or Layton vander 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.199 esh at nineteen, but you're gonna get James Washington at 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.720 eighty one. Yeah, not doing anything for you if things 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.280 work out, because last year when it's Saint Brown, for 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.679 all of my fans of the X receiver all throw him. 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:06.720 Like if I can get Saint Brown and eighty one 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.159 and the linebacker at nineteen, well I did it in 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.399 this last mock, the last market. I picked the safety. 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.720 I picked the safety at two. Yeah, I went ahead, 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:15.880 and at fifty, I just went ahead and hit more 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.280 from from Southern Miss and say, because I feel liked it. 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:23.040 Maybe this wide receiver class will stretch. I think it will. 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.520 Maybe that they they talked about, they talked about they 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.240 like two safeties. Yeah, I think it's I think it's 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.119 More and I think it's James and that maybe not, 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.119 that's not the order, But I think that James and 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.040 Moore are two guys that they really really like. I agree, 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.480 And so just just doing all more draft. Yeah, let's 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:44.280 go DJ Moore in the first more to various more 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:46.280 received him so other missing the second sky more in 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:50.160 the third, Hey, there's more and more. Who's at LSU fullback? 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:56.160 J D. Moore? D Day way to go man? Like, yeah, way, 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:58.400 he's sitting on his couch somewhere watching he does He's 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:00.840 not even paying attention. Let me also throw something out 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:04.080 there of kind of hearing some whispers. Uh, if they 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.680 the offensive line situation, if they were once again really 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.800 stuck at spot, that's that seems like a last resort. 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.080 That's all that defined stuck. Like, what do you want consider? 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:15.359 Wouldn't the guys she's talking about they're all off the 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:19.800 literally everyone everyone, every wide receiver. Yeah, if it's a 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.600 wide receiver that they I don't I mean to draft 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:24.800 an no lineman nineteen? I yeah, I think it'd be 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:27.120 stuck is if they Yeah, if say say that More 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:30.119 and Ridley, we've talked about the linebackers, both of the 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.639 wide receivers run veya gone right, Yeah, I mean you're 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:35.919 talking about like all five of your other guys are 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:38.280 gone and right, maybe you look at James Daniels that 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.800 I'm saying James Daniel would be a great glinche. Right, 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:43.640 So I couldn't figure out why they were bringing those 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.480 guys in. I mean, I couldn't figure out why they're 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.280 bringing the offensive tackles in. Cover your bases, Cover your basses. 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.480 But then maybe you were talking about moving Lyle Collins. 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:54.520 It'll be interesting if McGlinchey and Daniels are both there, 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:57.240 which direction they would go? Can you trade? Can someone 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.520 come get those guys? Yeah? See that's we we on 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.080 our on our show the other day, Dane, we went 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:06.800 to Carolina at twenty two. Yeah, and David, if I'm 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.600 not if I'm not mistaken, we picked up Carolinas. I 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:13.040 believe it was eighty. We got eighty five, So we 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.479 picked up Carolina's eighty five and the third so we 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:20.800 went you're picking twenty four fifty eighty one eighty five, Yeah, 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:22.840 that's not too shabby. And that was and that was 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:26.840 allowed us to grab Evans. Yeah, right there, Yeah, so 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.760 the best trade back scenario that would get you in 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:33.800 position to take a guy that you like would be 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:35.920 with Carolina. If you can do it now, you need 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:37.320 one of those. I mean, it might be one of 0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:40.320 those offensive linemen need to be there for that. You 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.800 just you need exactly, you need somebody to be there 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.520 because and you know, I think about all the time. 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:49.040 I think about the Travis Frederick trade back, right, And so, okay, 0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:50.600 it doesn't have to be a quarterback, and it doesn't 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:52.840 have to be a tackle, clearly because San Francisco came 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:56.040 out first, safety for safety. But I really feel like 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.520 that was more about the Cowboys just being desperate to 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.080 get away from that than the miners just dying to 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.360 go up and make a pick, you know, right, So 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.359 oh that was a that was a that was blow 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.320 the hatches and go for the bottom of the ocean. 0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:09.280 And I don't I don't see the Cowboys doing that 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.320 under this management. Like they're prepared one way or the other. 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.400 They know they're they're gonna have an option that they're 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.800 willing to take at at nineteen one way or the other. 0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.160 We still we still an agreement of who we would 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:24.920 trade up for. I think it's unrealistic with the Smith. Yeah, 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:28.080 but is Derwin James is that is that we still 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.240 on board with that one. We talked a lot about 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.200 the trade up options and Roque one was the one 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.320 guy that I would trade up for. Yeah, Derwin I 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.600 was kind of on the fence one. I'll get my 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.240 two to go get him because I think he's a 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:41.520 special player. Derwin, I like, Um, I just don't know 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.200 if I'm gonna give up that two to go get him. 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.080 I'm on the fence on that one still am I 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:49.280 think that you think the the Earl Thomas talk has died. 0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:52.760 Not yet, You're still hanging. It's hanging in there until 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.399 the Cowboys pick of fifty. Yeah, that's it's it's not 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.080 over until tomorrow. I worry about Seattle trying to get 0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.960 there two. Well, no ahead of That's that's why I 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.400 worry about it's over. It's over if Seattle trades back 0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.680 from eighteen tonight, because then they're gonna get something. They'll 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.440 get a second or third round pick and they'll say 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.040 we don't need you anymore. Yeah. I think that's where tonight. 0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.280 If you see Seattle, if we get Seattle on the 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.080 clock and all of a sudden, you know, then you 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:20.040 get in New England or somebody like that to be involved. Okay, 0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.199 it looks like that we've hit the top of the 0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:26.600 hour here, seven o'clock Central time. We should be getting 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:31.359 the commissioner coming to the podium. Forty thousand people in 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:35.520 that stadium, something like that. I mean, it's it looks 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:37.600 like a very exciting atmosphere. It's cool to see all 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.639 the different fan base. Yeah, it is, and that's always 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.280 I appreciate that. Once you can also want to say um, 0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.880 thank you to our fans not only across the country, 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:49.120 but across the pond, as they would say, right yeah, 0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:54.440 or UK, Caortugal, all over Ireland. Yeah, you guys got 0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.040 another one. I got it. I think Australia I got today. 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.520 I got a lot of late folks change out all 0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.960 my appreciate that. Okay, they're taking a look right now 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:07.000 into the Cleveland war Room. That's John Dorsey starts. He's 0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.480 not wearing that like Bill Clinton, going for a jog 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.439 sweatshirt and he doesn't have his he doesn't have his 0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.719 Cleveland Brown gray sweatshirt, John Brown War. He shows up 0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:16.080 to a new team and he's like, I want a 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:20.080 heather gray sweatshirt with the oldest, crappiest looking logo you 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.480 got and it needs to have been made in nineteen 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.639 eighty eight. It's easy to spot him, you know, you 0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:26.440 go to the Senior Bowl, go to you know, some 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:28.520 of these scouting events. He's always got the got the 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:31.720 gray sweat top on for sure. And but go on 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:33.520 eBay to find that, Yeah, we're soon to have the 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.320 orb orb the GM of a team and just say, hey, 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:38.840 make me this, Yeah, just just give me the nineteen 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.760 fifty eight sweatop. I'll be happy to wear that. Cleveland 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.040 will be on the clock, followed by the New York Giants, 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.120 and then it is the New York Jets. We're kind 0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.800 of holding tight here to see if something does happen 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:55.720 with that second overall pick. There's some rumors and speculation 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:59.920 that Denver is trying to move from five to get 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.560 to two. We'll see if Dave Getleman bites on that. 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.480 Who's gonna be We talked about this a little bit 0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:06.560 off the air, but who's gonna be the surprise team 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.639 this year that trades up for a quarterback or just 0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.440 drafts a quarterback and see and I liked I liked 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.600 your answer. Yeah, because the Saints make so much sense. 0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:17.840 But it's almost not a surprise. It's not a surprise 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.679 at all. We've talked about a million times. All Right, 0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.360 what about I think the Saints will give next years 0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:24.679 one to go New England's not a surprise either. What 0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:30.919 about Baltimore? That's Baltimore and Cincinnati last, this is his 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.800 last draft. Cincinnati would be way more surprising to me 0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.840 than Baltimore because Baltimore picks low enough that it makes sense. 0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:42.240 Sixteen and Joe Flacco is Joe Flacco. I mean he's 0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.119 he's trending down the same way. Eli, Man, where do 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.360 they have to go to get Lamar Jackson? They might 0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.760 not have to go. I think they'd have to get 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:52.359 a front of Arizona at fifteen. That's true. Uh, you 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.760 think Arizona? I mean, Arizona is definitely looking at quarterback. 0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.080 Arizona might have the worst quarterback situation in the league. Yeah, 0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.399 I mean, how dare you talk that way about Sammy 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:05.479 Sleeves Bradford. Yeah, Sean lee looks like iron Man compared 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.760 to the greatest. I mean, nobody's made more money doing 0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.080 not a lot than that guy. I admire it. Speaking 0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:16.840 of Oklahoma Big twelve quarterbacks. Uh, yeah, true, but yeah, 0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.399 you know, I think Baltimore is in the discussion you 0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.840 mentioned New England. I don't I see that. Do England 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.840 be surprising to me just because we've not seen them 0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.520 do something like that, I mean in a long long time. Yeah, 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.680 you know, we've seen them stay put and take a 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:35.080 quarterback in a second or in the third, but to 0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.280 trade up into the first to take a quarterback would 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.520 be a pretty substantial move, especially if it's for Lamar Jackson, 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:44.360 who is obviously a big difference in terms of style. 0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.280 The whispers are that they like him though, that's the 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.840 whispers they brought. They've done work on him. Yeah, so 0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.320 you know, it wouldn't be a total shock, but I'd 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.840 still be surprised to see it happen. The quarterbacks that 0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.000 they they've they've brought in. They did bring in Baker Mayfield, 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.720 they did bring in Josh Rose, and Kyle Loletta was 0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:05.680 brought in as well as a as a quarterback visit. 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.400 So it'll be interesting to see where they're The funny 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:13.680 thing here is, okay, you know, uh, the Chargers is 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.840 another team that shots to mind. But the funny thing. 0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.000 The funny thing about quarterback though, is it's so visible 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.440 and everybody knows about them. Would anybody really be shocked 0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.600 if the Chargers drafted one? I mean, Philip Rivers is 0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:26.560 thirty seven years old. It makes sense. We're talking about 0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:30.640 Eli Manning. They're in the same drafts. That's what made 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.960 the Chiefs thing so crazy is that Alex Smith is 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.280 much younger. Like nobody. I did not think Alex Smith 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.120 was about to play as last year in Kansas City 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:43.040 at this time last year. Um So if you're talking 0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.120 about stuff that would come totally out of nowhere, that's 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:48.160 Cincinnati would be kind of shocking because you're basically just 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.760 pulling the plug on the Andy Dalton era. I mean, 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.160 just bye bye, get out of here. Uh. And this 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.760 isn't a huge surprise, but maybe Pittsburgh, I mean, same draft. 0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.840 Well big Ben is not a young guy. Well here 0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:03.840 we go, and uh Kent Garrison executive producing as always. Yeah, 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.920 I was right commissioning Rockadel. He goes to the podium, 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:23.680 He's gonna open this two thousand and eighteen NFL draft. Oh, 0:30:23.760 --> 0:31:37.760 I love it, I love it. M I still got it. 0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:59.719 That's a hell of a souvenir. Great job right there. Okay, 0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:03.680 that puts the Cleveland Browns on the clock time at 0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:07.320 that is at seven h seven thirty, And so the 0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:11.560 journey begins for us here any more motivational words for 0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:15.640 us or no, I just broadcast. I'm just so appreciative 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.719 you guys are here with me today and for this 0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.120 whole weekend. I love I love the fact that we 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.680 will have some The Draft Show will have some just 0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.959 tremendous coverage these next three days. These players will talk 0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:27.880 about if you're if you're a fan of the Cowboys, 0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.240 we love you. If you're a fan of other teams, 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.280 we're gonna talk about your guys too. We are not 0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.920 gonna just be totally Cowboy Cowboys centric. That's just the 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.520 way we like to do things here in the Draft Show. 0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.480 We always talk about investigate and educate. Yeah, and I 0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.080 guarantee you, Dame Brugler will have a scouting report on whoever. 0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:49.520 Two fifty six is. Short of the sixteen Sundays or 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.719 whatever days of the week where they actually play regular 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.680 season games. This is the best three days of the year, 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.760 which and I know you don't have to say it, 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.400 but I know you don't even agree with that. You 0:32:58.400 --> 0:32:59.959 think these are the best three days of the year. 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.160 You wouldn't play the games if you had the choice. 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:04.280 I think this would be a great gig if you 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.080 didn't have to play the game. It hurt, It hurts 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.800 too much for you to play that. But I love 0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:10.120 I love the preparation to get to this point, and 0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.760 I think that we've done a great job of pulling 0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:16.000 this all together. We've talked a little bit about the Browns. 0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.840 This the draft. You know, people have had a chance 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.880 now to digest potentially what's going to happen at the 0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:26.000 top of this board, and you know, teams like the Giants. 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.320 Dane Brugler said it. Dave Getlman is a veteran general manager. 0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:33.080 He's a long time Giant scout before that, he's old school. 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.520 He is very old school, and you know, he he 0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.920 doesn't care if it's a running back, the guard, whatever. 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.560 He is going to take the player that he wants 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.200 to take. So with that being said, we got to 0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:48.920 about eight minutes on the clock for the Browns and 0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:50.880 heads up, we're not going to be tipping any picks. 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.320 We're not. We're not. We're gonna find out with you 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.600 guys as soon as the picks announced. We're not gonna 0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.200 know ahead of times, so we're gonna experience each one 0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.960 of these picks with you. Absolutely. So John Dorsey in 0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.440 the in the Brown's war room. They look very comfortable there. 0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.520 Uh they've Dorsey has known this pick for a while. 0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:12.680 Jim Hasling the owner. Uh, it's not Jim, it's a 0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.000 hasl Is Jimmy. Jim has him right, Jim has the 0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.759 Bengals linebackers. Exactly. I was. I was like thinking, man, 0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:20.200 that was the wrong guy there. He needs to be 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.320 working out Connor william Exactly. He was at Connor Williams Brot. 0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.160 They're showing all the old Cowboy or brown draft picks 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.239 on the board. Yeah, it's just sad. It's just is 0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.319 a Browns fan. What what emotion though, Dane? You know 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.399 a long time, you know you're an Ohio kid. Yeah, 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.640 what what emotions do you have about this? Right now? 0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:37.439 You gotta new you got a general manager. You gotta 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.680 feel like it's pretty good at his job, you know. 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.000 And so I feel a lot more confident about the 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:43.920 Browns than this year than I did last year, the 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.600 previous few years with John Dorsey in charge. Um, yeah, 0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:49.440 I mean the nineteen ninety nine draft and the Browns 0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:50.960 came back. That's what made me fall in love with 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.040 the draft. Yeah, that draft right there, and you know 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.759 it's the Browns have been a constant in the top ten. 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.520 It seems, um and you know, it's seems like they 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.959 missed out on some of the top quarterbacks. On twenty twelve, 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.040 they had the third pick, not the number one pick, 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.359 So they missed out of Andrew Luck two years ago. 0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:10.040 They traded away from Carson Wentz last year to Shaun Watson. 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.480 This year, they have the top pick. It will be 0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.160 a quarterback and they're not trading it. It just comes 0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.200 down to Willie get the pick. Right, Okay, here we go. 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.719 It's this is our first look in the war room 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.920 in side center at the start here in Frisco. So yeah, 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.279 we've got you know, uh, that's as you look at 0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.080 the table right there is the scouts. I'll name him 0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.720 off to you left to right, Walter Juliffe, Lionel Vitale. 0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:36.800 It's a Jerry Junior's son sitting there, and then Jerry 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.600 Junior is himself, Jon Jarrison Garrett of course, and then 0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:44.080 Jerry Jones greeting some folks here in the war room. 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:48.000 And as we go around, Will mcclay's there, Charlotte Jones 0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.759 Anderson is there as well, right next to Chris Hall. 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.560 Next to Chris Hall in that chair, that empty chair 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:55.520 will be tough. Well, there's Todd Williams right there. I 0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.480 thought he got up out of his chair. But him 0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:02.360 and Adam Pacifica, they are the cap guys, so everybody. 0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:04.960 They got the Senior Scouts at the table, the National 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.799 Scouts at the table, so they're ready to go. Here. 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:09.919 As you look at the war room, going again left 0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:14.160 to right of all the folks involved, the Papa John's 0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.640 pizza boxes in the background are just a nice touch. Yeah, 0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.560 nice touch. And they'd be very good with some Miller light. Yeah, 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:22.920 they'll be some very good with the Papa John's in 0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.400 the Miller light. That would be outstanding. And we appreciate 0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.799 Miller light. But Dane, you you you really spoke from 0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.279 the heart right there. And you're looking now into the 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:36.200 Cleveland war room, you know, John Dorsey and Hugh Jackson 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.560 are handshakes all around. It will be interesting to see if, 0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.279 in fact, this time next year that those two will 0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:45.840 be together, but we'll see. Like I say, Dane Bruger 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.520 thinks it is going to be a quarterback. They're taking 0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:52.800 their full time here. It's going to be a quarterbacks, 0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.480 like we just don't know which one, but I assume 0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.360 it's Baker Mayfield. And we've talked about that though. We 0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:00.759 think that that that is that is a little bit 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.719 of a surprise. That is a little bit of a surprise. 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:08.399 Uh you know with the with Baker Mayfield going uh 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.800 to or we think to the Cleveland Browns. It was 0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.560 a surprise today and it certainly would have been a 0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:18.080 surprise as when we started this journey, I said, Hey, spoiler, 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.960 Baker Mayfield's gonna be the number one pick back in January. Right, 0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:22.920 you guys would not have believed me. No, we I 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.040 know I would not have believed you right at all. 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.680 I mean, I've just h I'm very I'm very interested 0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.520 to see how uh this thing, uh well, we'll play 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.919 out with with Baker Mayfield. And when I talked about 0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:38.840 it earlier with John Dorsey, he is looking for a 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.400 guy who's accountable in the locker room. He's looking for 0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.799 a guy that will lead men. He's looking for a 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:48.120 quarterback that will that the players will gravitate towards and 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.600 then he uh and then will lead them back again. 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.240 This team has only won one game in two years. 0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:56.800 Hugh Jackson got another a year to try and turn 0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.440 this around, and uh, you know this is this is 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.839 another opportunity for him to do that. If they don't, 0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:05.799 then I believe that John Dorsey will be looking for 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.160 another head coach. So we will see. But as you 0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:11.640 can see again both the war room cam is up 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.880 and uh and we're waiting for Cleveland's pick. There's still 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:19.000 three minutes in forty five seconds on the clock. I 0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:22.200 never know, maybe that late trade offer. No, they're just 0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.640 drawing this out. It's they know who it's gonna be. 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.239 Like you said, John's known for quite a while now, 0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.280 he said, what's it was reported six weeks He's probably 0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:35.640 no longer than that. At least had a strong feeling 0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.600 who the top quarterback was going to be on his board. 0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.839 I just love from the Cowboys perspective, like I mean, 0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.120 and you know you got a it'll change, but I mean, 0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:47.959 at this point you're not going up to number one, two, three, 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.920 and so you know, it's all it's fun in games. 0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.120 But I don't know. In about forty minutes it's gonna 0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.560 shift to a little bit more serious tone. It's just 0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:01.160 fun to watch. Yeah, and again, so we're inside of 0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.240 three minutes on the Brown's pick. The best thing about 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.799 this pick is there are a lot of war rooms 0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:10.160 around the league kind of doing what we're doing, Like, yeah, 0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.160 who's just gonna be? Is it? Is it really gonna 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:13.960 be Baker? You know, I don't think like there are 0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.120 a lot of war rooms who they don't know who 0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.319 it's going to be. And I think they're waiting on 0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.280 pins and needles just like we are. Would John Dorsey 0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:25.040 actually take Baker Mayfield number one? It's really a fascinating 0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:28.759 dynamic to this and uh yeah, I just I mean 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:32.920 they've tried. There's there's so much effort has been put in, 0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:37.279 and then the long suffering Brown fans, you know, they've 0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.960 just that's that's one of those places where you know, 0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.280 you'd love to see Cleveland get back to winning again, 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.799 and that's one of those pillar franchises, you know, And 0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.440 it's just, you know, it's found so weird for me 0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:49.880 to hear yeah in my adult well, yeah, exactly what 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.080 you're talking about, because yeah, I grew up with Eric 0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.040 Metcalfe and Bernie Kozar and you know those guys in 0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.640 the early nineties, and you know it's and John Dorsey. 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.200 I think that's one of the reasons he took the 0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:04.600 job so early and didn't wait to interview for other jobs, 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:08.400 is he wanted to be part of an iconic organization 0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:11.960 and he came from Green Bay rather organization. Yeah, in 0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:15.880 Kansas City, another one of the original franchises. So you 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.960 know it's uh, it's something that means a lot to him, 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.799 and he wants to turn this thing around. I can't. 0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:24.480 He can't get this wrong. Can't get the number one 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:26.640 He cannot get the number one pick wrong. I mean, 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.239 it's gonna either gonna set the franchise up or set 0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.640 them way back. But it looks like the pick is 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:35.600 in and we will soon have a Commissioner Goodell will 0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.440 make that announcements. There's there there. I was gonna say, 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.520 there's always like this annoying four minute wait from when 0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:44.440 the pick comes into when they come out and tell us, well, 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.560 the Brown war room again. They look the Brown's war room. 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.959 They look very relaxed, and they've got another pick coming 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:50.799 up here in a little bit too, unless you know, 0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:54.440 they've got some plans they want to trade that try 0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.719 and move this pick. We'll see if in fact that 0:40:56.800 --> 0:41:00.040 they do that. But we're again just waiting for the 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.480 missioner to get to the podium. Who's and make this pick? 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:05.800 All right? This is a quarterback, whether it's Darnold or 0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.680 Baker whatever, Yeah, who's who's? Well, okay, I know who 0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.359 could come up for four? Why? Why are the Browns trying? 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.160 What are they seems a little cute for me? What 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.920 trying to get out of? Here? Comes to commissioner to 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.200 talk about it. Here we go, Here comes the commissioner 0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:24.080 to the podium. Let's go. That's gonna go on all 0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:37.759 weekend long. Here it is. Wow, Well, Baker Mayfield is 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:40.839 in fact the pick. So they managed to keep that 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:48.560 pick very secret until late in the afternoon, until until yeah, 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:50.239 until they told you boy, and then and then all 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:53.560 of a sudden, so Baker Mayfield. Uh, And and I 0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:55.239 know for a fact that we do a lot of 0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:58.279 work guys with uh with the Jeff Cavanaugh on one 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.239 oh five three, And that was guy that he was 0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:04.200 Baker Mayfield all the way. He felt like, uh, that 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.600 that he was gonna be one of the best quarterbacks 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.839 in the draft, and sure enough here the uh, I'm 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.319 a little bit brown. I'm a little bit scared of 0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:16.200 drafting a guy who's six flat number one overall. Yeah, um, 0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:19.160 but six thank I'm sorry, I'm sorry, six flat and 0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:22.520 a half. Um. But I mean I love this dude, 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.640 I would like. I mean, he's he's the type of 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.359 guy that you love him if he's on your team, 0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.680 you hate him if he's not. But I love guys 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.840 like that. And yeah, he's a culture changer. I don't know, 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:34.680 it's hard to say right now how well it's gonna 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:38.080 work out. But like I said, if i'm if I'm 0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.320 holding that pick, I think I'm picking Josh Rosen. Yeah, 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.120 but I like this a lot more than I like 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:45.640 Josh Allen. I'll tell you that. That's the thing. If 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.440 I'm a Bronze fans, Yeah, Josh Allen, feel good about that. 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:52.359 It's has a walk on ever gone number one? You know. 0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.160 I mean, I'm trying a fantastic point, not even a 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:58.359 walk on, but twice a walk on. You know. It's 0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.040 just it's fascinating that he's gone in the trajectory of 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:05.920 his career uh from you know, few offers out of Austin, 0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:10.880 Uh to you know, getting beat out by uh Davis 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.880 Webb and sure Pat Mahomes a tech and then walking 0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:17.399 on to Oklahoma and going thirty four and six there 0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:22.040 and uh being being the guys though it's early as 0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:25.840 fascinating thing. Well, Baker Mayfield is the now the first 0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:30.360 overall pick of the Cleveland Browns. Uh. It's you know, 0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:33.400 when watching Baker Mayfield play, he was one of the 0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.440 best protected quarterbacks in this draft. You mean you you 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.040 watch him? You know, the offensive line did a heck 0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:42.359 of a job, Dane, you were talking about the skill guys. Uh. 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:46.160 You know Lincoln Riley, the head coach, play caller, I thought, 0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:49.440 did great things with him. But you're You're right, Dave. 0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:51.600 I think to me, the old scout in me is 0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.480 a little bit worried about the guy that's you know, 0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:56.520 six foot now he can't he might not be able 0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.479 to throw in the Lake Erie snowstorm. Brian. Yeah, that's well, 0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.120 you know, that's I think you have to. I think 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.520 that physical traits will play a factor in some of this. 0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:08.280 I'm not I am not a I'm not a doubter 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:10.920 of Baker Mayfield. I just know I'm just giving your heart. 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:12.560 I know you were, but that's what we do here. 0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:16.000 I mean, I think that you know. Dan's right though, 0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.640 it's I think this is one of those intangible picks. 0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.200 I think this. I don't think this is the safest 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:24.640 quarterback in the draft. No, I don't, And maybe if 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.359 you're making the first overall pick. But does he have 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:30.000 the potential to be the best quarter I'm gonna ask you, guys, 0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.399 let's spill on the crystal ball a little bit. Does 0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.640 he have the chance to be the best quarterback of 0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.400 the ones that are selected today? Do you feel like 0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.640 he could be that guy? He's top ten on my board, 0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.640 So yeah, I think he has a chance. It's just, 0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:44.640 you know, like you said, he's not the safest. He 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:46.560 needs to improve an areas. The biggest worry I have 0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:49.440 is just going from that Oklahoma offense to the NFL 0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.120 is going to be a big leap, especially not against 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.960 big twelve defenses. But again, we saw Baker and Columbus 0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:58.279 against a very stout Ohio defense, Ohio State defense. We 0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.720 saw Georgia too. Watch a second half of the Georgia 0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.960 right Sam Donald call him an opponent we saw him 0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.680 and we saw you know, there's Sam Donald did not 0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.280 have the offensive line. No, Baker does. Did a nice shot. 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.640 You're absolutely right about so, Miamy, we can talk big twelve, 0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:15.720 but he did a nice job out of his element 0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.759 against a big time defense. So he deserves credit for that. 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.920 I think we've only seen three Big twelve quarterbacks in 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:28.680 the top ten Um Bradford, Mahomes and Mayfield and two 0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.719 Oraclea Hooma quarterbacks. And John Dorsey drafted two of those guys, 0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:35.800 Mahomes last year and Baker this year. It's interesting the comparison. Okay, 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:39.440 the Giants pick is in now that will be first round. 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:42.520 That's the second overall picks. So good job at the Giant. Yeah, 0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:45.600 good job. Dave Getleman knows exactly what he wants to 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:47.720 do with this pick. Wait till he goes to the podium. 0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:51.960 Do the do the right thing, Giants. No, that's I mean, 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:54.399 that's a great thing for the Cowboys if they want 0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:56.080 to not have to worry about the Giants. You know, 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:57.799 I said this a long time ago about this guy. 0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.279 Someone asked me the comparison to Baker Mayfield, and I 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:03.279 did say, Jeff Garci. That's that's my and then that's 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.400 and that's exactly the what speed show? I mean? Oh, 0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:10.160 Jeff Garcia is a kind of run around. He's a 0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:13.200 he's a he was a Jeff Garcia was a pro bowler. Yeah, 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:16.080 Jeff a great career he did he sure did. No, 0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.719 I just give me the hit factory. Here we go. Well, 0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.040 let's go to podium. The Giants are about to make 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:38.000 a selection. Okay, I'm not surprised at all. Dave Gettlman 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:40.520 does not trade back. He stays put and he picks. 0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.239 Last year he took Christian McCaffrey. This year he takes 0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.640 Saquon Barkley. I am not surprised at all. Well, sa 0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:49.279 Quon Barkley. Okay, now, Dave, you were talking about that. 0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:52.360 Do you feel you feel better or worse about the 0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:54.600 New York Giants now having a running back with the 0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.719 talent of sa Quon Barkley. Listen, don't get me wrong, 0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:01.200 sae Quon Barkley is a stud and he's gonna he's 0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:04.600 gonna make the cowboys very unhappy on a number of occasions. 0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:08.120 But it's a marathon, not a sprint. Man. Uh And 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.759 I look at the Giants, and I look at their 0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:13.759 thirty seven year old quarterback. Who literally, I mean, I'm 0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.480 not just I'm not spitballing here. I've looked this stuff up. 0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:19.440 The guy's been significantly worse every year for the last 0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:23.440 three years. Uh. Their first round tackle Eric Flowers didn't 0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:28.680 pan out. I believe Justin Pugh left, did he not? Aza? Now, 0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:32.240 who's blocking for this kid? Who's who's well? They signed? 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:35.640 They sold? They sold or signed left tackle? Yeah, this 0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.920 is where to quote Marshall ericson not good enough? Yeah, 0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.719 to me, this is said that's what he had a 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:43.319 Penn State though. Okay, let me ask you this. Would 0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:45.960 you've taken Nelson here? Would you taken Quentin Nelson here? 0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.040 I think that was actually in the very first What 0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:50.920 do you know about running backs right now? I would 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:52.960 have taken if I would take quarterback. If I didn't 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:55.000 take a quarterback, I would have taken Chubb. Okay, you 0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.640 would have taken Chubb. I would have you. That's that's 0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:59.160 what I cannot get you to take a guard in 0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.879 the first round, can I No? Not that high? Right? 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.200 I would take one in the top seven or eight. 0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:06.080 I mean that I'd take Nelson somewhere in there. But 0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.880 I'd I'd rather have I'd rather have Quenton Nelson than 0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:12.280 se Quon Barkley for that team, for that team. Yeah, 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.879 I just I just think, I said, I'm just I'm 0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.960 just now, maybe Barkley helps that offensive line. I mean, 0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.080 I just worry. But I mean, the NFC East is 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.640 a tougher division right now than it was. Yeah, trying 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.000 to block the try and block the Philadelphia Eagles up front. 0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:30.080 But he brings a lot more than just a traditional 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.400 running back to the offense. I mean, he's what he 0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:36.560 can bring is Christian McCaffrey esque, you know, in space, 0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:38.880 catching them all in the backfield, line him up in 0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:42.000 the slot. He can do all those things. So the 0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:44.880 Giants are a better team today, There's no question about it. 0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.080 They are. They are a better team today, and they're 0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:50.080 a better team for twenty eighteen. But yeah, this wasn't 0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:51.920 they're going for it with elm Man. This wasn't the 0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:54.359 right call. Yeah, they ad the next decade. I would 0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:58.080 have taken Sam Donald. I agree, But which again, And 0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:00.520 like I said, I mean, the cow always did the 0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:04.080 same thing, And so I feel hypocritical criticizing the Giants 0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:06.840 for doing what the Cowboys did. But that Cowboys team 0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:12.200 was closer to contention than this Giants team in my opinion. Sure, yeah, 0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:15.080 um so. And and you're picking two also, so keep 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:18.200 in mind, if the Cowboys had picked two in that draft, 0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:21.239 you think they let Wentz go. I don't. That's a 0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.520 fascinating question. That's a fascinating question. But again, the Cowboys 0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:27.279 didn't necessarily have their pick of the litter of quarterbacks either. 0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:31.480 I mean the Giants, I assume Baker wasn't there QB one, 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:33.919 so they could have had anybody they wanted and there 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:36.400 they'd rather have a two year window with Eli Manning. 0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:39.080 And I just don't know. Hey, maybe Davis Webb is 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.400 a stud too, but if well, obviously, but they but 0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.480 what did they do last year to Davis Davis? What 0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:45.200 they didn't play and when they should have played him 0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:48.280 at the end, they took They they went ahead and 0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:50.680 and and what did they do? They they went and 0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:53.960 got uh they played Gino Gino, Yeah, Gino Smith. I 0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.880 mean instead of given Davis Webb a start, they they 0:49:57.000 --> 0:50:00.560 they gave you know, Gino. So I don't. I don't 0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:03.800 quite get nets. Again, that's why general managers get fired 0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:06.439 and head coaches get fired. It's funny that the last time, 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.680 and yeah, the Giants don't pick up here that often. 0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:12.200 They were pretty well run organizations. Sure, it's funny that 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.640 the last time that they were this putrid, what they 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:19.960 do they picked? They picked a quarterback to quarterback heared 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.720 the future their franchise. Yeah, he won them two super Bowls, 0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:24.560 right and no, Cowboys fans don't want to give you 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:26.719 Lie Mann and credit for that, but absolutely you'll take 0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:30.439 that every single time. Yeah. Um, so, I, like I said, 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:33.799 you know, the NFL's whacky. I'm not going to be 0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:37.280 surprised if the Giants are playoff contenders in twenty eighteen. Um, 0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:39.799 but I don't know that this is the right call. 0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:41.840 When you had a chance to draft a guy that 0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.319 could be your quarterback for fifteen years, and again if 0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:46.759 they didn't go quarterback, I think the right choice would 0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:50.240 broadly Chubb pass rusher. Guy's going to impact the pocket, 0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:53.759 second most important position in a roster. No, Jason Pierre 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:56.560 Paul is gone. Um, you know you still have Olivia Vernon, 0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:59.080 But give me the guy that's going to impact the pocket, 0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:01.120 probably Chubbs. When the best players in this draft he's 0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.359 number three on my board. That's a ruction I would 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:06.880 have went. Let me ask you this with Barkley, though, 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:09.600 can you compare the impact that he might have? Say 0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:11.799 what it like, Ezekiel Eliot? Oh? Absolutely and that. But 0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:15.520 I would argue, did that Dallas offense because the line 0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:19.440 was more prepared to make Zeke work? There's no debate there, yea. 0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:23.160 But I would say that Barkley is the going to 0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:25.040 be the leading favorite to be offensive Rookie of the 0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:28.640 Year this year. I mean, I think it. We don't know, 0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:31.080 we're two picks in, but I feel safe saying that 0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.720 right now. Did just what if? What if my lsu 0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.719 homie goes to that team at thirty two in about 0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:41.640 five hours? The only reason you take a running back 0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:44.840 two is if you're going to force feed him the 0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:48.240 ball and make him the featured piece of your offense. 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:53.720 And so I expect them to really run the wheels 0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:57.560 off of Berkeley. Yeah, handing him in the ball, letting 0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.440 him run patterns. I mean just they're going to utilize 0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:03.160 him quite a bit where he's gonna have every opportunity 0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:05.759 to show that you know, the Giants made the right 0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:08.799 pick at number two. Well, that makes the New York 0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:12.200 Jets now on the clock. Their pick is in. This 0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:14.480 is a quarterback, So which one is it? Yeah, and 0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.480 let's let's you know that's they're in a situation right 0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:22.680 now where they resigned McCown. They added Bridgewater here as well, 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:25.800 and so you know they've been searching for a franchise quarterback. 0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.360 It seems like forever Hackenburg and Petty are still on 0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:30.480 the roster. Yeah, so this is gonna be a very 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:33.920 very I'm sure once, say Mike mcagnan, Well, we'll do 0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:37.200 some housecleaning here once this pick is in. But what 0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:39.319 do we think Darnald? Do you think Rosen? Do we 0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.280 think Allen? Who? Do we think? I think Baker? Mayfield 0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:44.440 was who? Yeah? Who? They kind of they did a 0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:47.239 lot of homework on matter of fact, they did bring 0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:50.319 in Rosen. They actually they brought in all four the quarterbacks. 0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:53.880 They did bring in all four the quarterbacks, Mayfield, Rosen, Allen, 0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:58.840 and Darnald. They did not bring in Jackson. If I'm Cleveland, 0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:02.160 I am hoping for Rosen here. So Darnold falls the four. 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.919 That ups the value of that pick. It's a great point. Yeah, yeah, 0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.360 makes a great great you know, I can I cannot 0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:12.359 imagine this not being a quarterback. No, it's quarterback. Has 0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:14.719 to be. You don't trade three second rounders to go 0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:18.440 up three spots to get Bradley Chubb. I love it Chubb. Yeah, 0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:22.000 you are talking about Chubb for sure. Okay, it looks 0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:23.960 like the again. The pick is in and here comes 0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:41.640 the commissioner to the podium. M M well, Sam Darnold. 0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:44.080 Sam Darnold did wind up in New York, y'all? Yeah, 0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:47.040 he sure did, all right, Sam Darnold. Though, you know, 0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:49.680 we everybody kind of thought that Sam Darnold was going 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:55.320 to be the first overall UH selection by the Cleveland Browns. 0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:58.520 Now he goes to the Jets. That's something now, but everybody, 0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:00.879 that will be the new debate right there. Everyone gave 0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.359 the Jets a lot of flak for moving up so 0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:07.680 early in the process. Sure, going up three spots, and 0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:09.560 you know they're gonna well, they're gonna take their third 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:11.879 quarterback there you gonna shut out. Yeah, it worked out 0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:13.960 for him because there there's a good chance Donald's the 0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:16.799 first quarterback on their board. They got him, and you 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:18.480 have to feel good about that. And he's going to 0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:22.440 a good situation because like you mentioned, McCown's there, Bridgewater's there. 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:24.839 Darnald does not have to play day one. He does 0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:27.080 not need to be the starter an opening day. He's 0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:30.640 not going to a bad situation though, because there's nobody 0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:34.359 there for him to play football with. Well not this year, right, 0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:37.399 but see that? That that to me like he could 0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:40.680 be in a situation where all of a sudden, you know, 0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:44.560 he's not playing, and then the whole coaching staff gets 0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:47.680 fired and a new coach comes in there, a new GM, 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:49.759 and all that thing is, this might give them a 0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:52.920 little more leash you draft to Sam Donald, the current 0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:55.480 coaching staff, the current GM. I love Mike mckeckne, he's 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:57.520 one of my dear friends. But my gosh, I mean, 0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:00.279 if you if you throw those guys out this year, 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.640 you make your next hire with Sam Darnold as the 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:05.920 focal point of oh, there's no doubt, you make that 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:08.080 higher and you say, hey, this guy is under contract 0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:11.120 for four more years and we're not hiring a guy 0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:13.719 who can't develop him and make it work with him. Okay, Dane, 0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:15.919 tell me a little bit about Sam Darnold and why 0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:18.640 why he could work at the Jets, and maybe why 0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:21.239 he can't work at the Jets. Well, Jeremy bates the OC. 0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:23.239 I think it's a good fit with what he does. 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.000 He's a kind of an SEC guy, right, I mean 0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:28.319 Jeremy Jeremy. He knows all those sc kids pretty well. 0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.440 And with Sam Darnald does best is in movement. Um, 0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:34.720 you know, the second chance plays. Uh. The USC offensive 0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:38.279 line was dreadful, and so whether it's by design or not, 0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:40.319 we got to see him move around a lot and 0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:42.279 create those second chance plays with a little bit of 0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:45.439 magic that he has. So does he's only twenty years old. 0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:47.400 Does he need to get better in some areas, Absolutely, 0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:50.040 But he's the quarterback in this class I'm betting on. 0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:53.960 I'm just it's funny. Well, I'm going back to the 0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:57.360 point I just made, which is the joke. The joke 0:55:57.520 --> 0:55:59.600 is that you don't want to go to Cleveland. People 0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.799 have joke for years that, oh, it's good if you 0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:05.839 fall away from the Browns. Right. The Browns are more 0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:08.279 set up to help a young quarterback succeed right now 0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:11.360 than the Jets are. Yeah, you got a pass catching 0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:14.239 tight end, you got some badass wide receivers that can 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.840 help you out. Probably draft of running back back to 0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:19.800 Cleveland real quick with number one in Baker Mayfield. All along, 0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:22.360 we thought that it was going to be Darnald in 0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:25.000 a good situation for Darnold to sit behind Tyrod Taylor 0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:28.239 being that bridge quarterback. One year, he's final year of 0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:32.319 his deal for Tyrod Taylor. Now Baker's there, it's no 0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:35.560 longer a foregone conclusion. Tyrod Taylor's a starter. I mean, 0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:37.480 Baker's not going to go in there and just concede 0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:39.480 the job. Do you think Darnel will be the starter 0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:41.880 at the Jets? No, no, no, no, he shouldn't be. 0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:43.640 I don't think he's right. If you're if you're if 0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:48.680 your job's on the line, maybe I mean, I mean 0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:52.040 you you're talking about buying some more time. If Darnald's 0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:55.240 good enough that he he might start like week eleven. 0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:57.480 But he's not. He's not starting earlier than that. If 0:56:57.480 --> 0:56:59.640 I'm gonna get fired, I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna play 0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:01.799 the guy I picked. But why what's that gonna do? 0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:04.360 It's not gonna say this. Probably it might show the 0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:06.200 owner that you know what, Well, that's what I'm saying. 0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:08.160 Week eleven. I think he has a shot if it 0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:10.880 in the toilet. Yeah, it might be too late by 0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:13.640 week eleven, though, don't you think. Well, okay, I'll say ken, 0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:18.040 and you know I'll say this if you never prede 0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:22.120 I'm staunchly against predetermining playing time right now. Right you 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:24.400 go to training camp and you let training camp decide that. 0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.000 So if Sam Darnold goes to training camp and plays 0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:30.040 really well and shows he's he's ready, then by all 0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:33.320 means play him, but only in that situation. So I'm 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:36.360 not going to predetermine the playing time for him. Uh, 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:40.000 that's what training camps for. Man. Hey, never never judge 0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:41.920 a quarterback by the school he's coming out of. But 0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:44.640 they're running through these USC qbs and it is not 0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:47.720 It might be my biggest pet peeves not super encouraging 0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:51.560 doing so many media hits this week. If they're throwing 0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:53.760 them all under the bus. You're talking about USC quarterback, Well, 0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:56.240 what do USC quarterback has done? Well? I don't care, 0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:59.040 it doesn't matter. All they have in similar is just 0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:02.880 the kel the helmets. Carson Palmer had a great career 0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:07.600 just recently retired. To know it is it's laughable to 0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:09.640 try to compare those things, But it is funny to 0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:11.480 see them all lined up. We're gonna see a trade 0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:13.640 here at number four? Or what do you think? I 0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:16.040 see the it's running down. The clock is now at 0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:18.680 three minutes and forty seconds. And I'd like to believe 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:20.600 to sit in there for him. Yeah, I would like 0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:22.880 to believe that if you were gonna trade, you would 0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:25.080 have an idea what you wanted to do. Don't be 0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:29.880 cute Cleveland trading. I needs a smart move. Why, yes, me? Why? 0:58:30.080 --> 0:58:32.080 Because I think you're gonna get a good player if 0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:34.120 you trade down and you're gonna pick up more picks. 0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:38.000 Don't the Browns have enough picks? They got a billion picks? 0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:42.240 Get a first rounder next year picking thirty three? Or 0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:44.479 I love Bradley Chubb, but why don't give me the picks? 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:47.400 Why don't you want Emmanuel Log, Miles Garrett, and Bradley 0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:49.560 Chubb all playing on the same line. I think that'd 0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:52.960 be fun. And that's where I would go in this scenario. 0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:54.919 If I'm the Browns, Bradley Chubb should be the pick. 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:58.160 But if someone wants one of these quarterbacks Rosen or 0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:01.280 Alan and they give me the offer, uh, and you know, 0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:05.560 if say Buffalo gives me twelve next year's one and 0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:09.600 two or three. This year, I'm doing it. John Dorsey 0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:11.880 has always uh and this is this is the true. 0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:14.000 Dorsey has always been a part of teams where uh, 0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:19.320 premiere uh you know, premiere pass rushers were involved. You know, 0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:21.640 I mean something that they care a lot about, you know, 0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:24.479 And I kind of feel like, though I'm with Dane 0:59:24.520 --> 0:59:27.040 on this one. I think that they're gonna stand in 0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:28.960 here and make this pick, and I think it's gonna 0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:32.240 be Chubb, just because again Dorsey's background, you know, he's 0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:35.040 always said they're gonna trade. No, I would do that, yes, 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:37.480 oh yeah, but I he thinks they're gonna make the pick. Yeah, 0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:39.520 I think they're gonna take Chubb. You would you would 0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:41.320 trade the pick if I got the offer. If you 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.640 got the offer and it picks in, they doesn't look 0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:47.200 like that's I'm you know, they're gonna get Bradley Chub here, 0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:48.480 and I think they're gonna get a really good player 0:59:48.480 --> 0:59:51.320 because again, you yeah, quarterback the most important position on 0:59:51.360 --> 0:59:53.760 the roster. At one, you get the second most important position. 0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:56.280 At two. You took another one, another pass rusher. Last 0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:58.880 year at number one overall pick. You still have Emmanuel Ogba. 0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.560 I just get the rushers, get them all on the field, 1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:03.360 and get after the quarterback. And this is the pick, 1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:06.920 by the way, at fourth overall is the pick that 1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:09.640 they got last year from a trade from the Houston Texans. 1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:13.320 They sacrifice to pick to get DeShawn Watson trade back. 1:00:13.400 --> 1:00:14.920 That's not a bad that was not me and the 1:00:14.960 --> 1:00:17.400 fourth overall pick for Watson. I think that people would 1:00:17.440 --> 1:00:19.400 take that thing is is that pick. This pick looks 1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:21.440 like it was going to be in the twenties and 1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:23.720 then Watson toward the aco and all of a sudden 1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:26.360 it plummeted plummeted down. You're right about that, but I 1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:28.520 think they got a fine young quarterback. The Cowboys play 1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:31.240 the Texans next year too, play him the preseason, and 1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:35.120 play him during the regular season as well. So we're waiting. 1:00:35.160 --> 1:00:37.680 The pick is in from the Browns again. This is 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:42.280 the first round pick, four overall. Dane Burglar thinks that 1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:46.840 it is going to be Bradley Chubb, the very talented 1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:51.959 defensive end from North Carolina State. And as we look 1:00:52.080 --> 1:00:55.520 at the setting, the commissioner is making his way to 1:00:55.600 --> 1:01:16.400 the podium. Let's go there. Okay, I did talk about 1:01:16.400 --> 1:01:19.520 this this week on Cleveland Radio. Do not count out 1:01:19.560 --> 1:01:22.280 Denzel Award. He might be the best cornerback on the 1:01:22.320 --> 1:01:25.840 Browns roster right now. That's how dire the situation is 1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:29.480 at the cornerback position. So hey, I don't mind this 1:01:29.520 --> 1:01:32.360 pick at Denzel Awards an outstanding player. He's number five 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:35.360 on my board, so I'm not against it. If we 1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:38.280 talked about ranking the positions on if we talk just 1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:42.760 to talk about importance, quarterback one pass, rusher, two corners three. 1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:45.400 So they didn't go number two most important position. They 1:01:45.400 --> 1:01:48.600 went with number three, And I think Emmanuel Agba is 1:01:48.880 --> 1:01:51.040 taking a style of relief. Maybe, yeah, a good point. 1:01:51.880 --> 1:01:53.720 I'll tell you what though, this is a team that 1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:57.720 this is a team though that did sign four cornerbacks. 1:01:58.640 --> 1:02:03.320 Yeah during during a who though, I mean Roscoe Fillers. 1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:05.840 Take a look at Dan's face right there. Yeah, it 1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:10.200 looks like Carrie Games. Yeah, I understand, which Terrence Mitchell, 1:02:10.200 --> 1:02:12.680 I understand what you're saying. I mean, he Denzel Wards 1:02:12.760 --> 1:02:14.760 number five on my board. So this is not a 1:02:14.800 --> 1:02:16.560 reach by any means. I think it. You don't like 1:02:16.640 --> 1:02:20.680 Brian body Calhoun. He's probably their best corner right now. 1:02:20.720 --> 1:02:23.400 My only Denzel Warden shows up. Brian body Calhoun. I 1:02:23.440 --> 1:02:26.320 remember from his draft he went to Minnesota, and I 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:29.960 remember Ezekiel Elliott dragged him all over the field in 1:02:30.000 --> 1:02:33.160 twenty sixteen. Run defense is not his strength. Yeah, he's 1:02:33.200 --> 1:02:36.080 a solid nickel guy. But uh, no, I like this pick. 1:02:36.600 --> 1:02:38.720 I okay, it's harsh for me to say I don't 1:02:38.720 --> 1:02:40.400 like it. I mean, if you're gonna get the best 1:02:40.400 --> 1:02:42.720 cornerback in the draft, you're probably not gonna go wrong. 1:02:42.880 --> 1:02:45.240 But I think he would have won five if he 1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:48.280 didn't go here. For it sounded fun af to have 1:02:48.440 --> 1:02:50.760 Miles Garrett on the right side and Bradley Chubb on 1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:52.520 the left, and then you can do whatever you want 1:02:52.560 --> 1:02:57.240 with Emmanuel Oba. I'll tell you what. That was a 1:02:57.280 --> 1:02:59.840 little bit of a surprise for me. I thought you, 1:03:00.200 --> 1:03:03.400 I thought you were going down the right avenue. Oh yeah, 1:03:03.400 --> 1:03:05.520 I'm surprised too. I mean, I thought Chubb was gonna 1:03:05.520 --> 1:03:08.040 be the pick. But no. It's funny because I did 1:03:08.040 --> 1:03:10.000 a lot of Cleveland radio this week and we talked 1:03:10.000 --> 1:03:13.120 about other possibilities in Denzel. If it wasn't Chubb and 1:03:13.120 --> 1:03:14.800 it wasn't a trade down, then it was gonna be 1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:17.280 Denzel Ward. Because again the cornerback situation of the depth 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:20.440 chart in Cleveland, it kind of makes you makes you 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:22.760 a little ill when you look at it. So Denzel Ward, 1:03:22.760 --> 1:03:26.400 like I said, at some point early in this this season, 1:03:26.440 --> 1:03:28.800 Denzel Ward will be the best cornerback, maybe already on 1:03:28.840 --> 1:03:31.680 the on the bronze roster. I'm just I'm I'm gonna 1:03:31.720 --> 1:03:35.760 totally just play second guess jerk. Nobody likes that. Sorry, 1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:38.800 you could do that? Yeah, just thinking, Hey, Mike Us 1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:41.360 and Mike Cues and Josh Jackson might be there for 1:03:41.400 --> 1:03:44.800 you at thirty three if you need a cornerback. I just, man, 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:47.440 it's hard for me to the thought of just turning 1:03:47.480 --> 1:03:49.480 away from the best pass rusher in the draft is 1:03:49.680 --> 1:03:52.240 rough for me. I don't know. Could could Could we 1:03:52.280 --> 1:03:55.439 see now the Colts who all along we thought maybe 1:03:55.480 --> 1:03:58.880 that they would take Bradley Chubb get him at six? 1:03:59.040 --> 1:04:01.680 I bet there. I mean, I mean you think that. 1:04:01.800 --> 1:04:03.919 I mean they talked about maybe diving out of there, 1:04:04.640 --> 1:04:06.480 and now all of a sudden, they're looking at They're 1:04:06.520 --> 1:04:09.480 looking at They're looking at Chubb without I mean, I 1:04:09.520 --> 1:04:12.840 think you're fine with Chubb or Nelson, you know, I 1:04:12.920 --> 1:04:15.280 think you're you're I think there's okay, I think sitting 1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:17.600 there at six and saying we'll take either one of 1:04:17.640 --> 1:04:20.880 those guys. Yeah, but if you're Denver, are you looking 1:04:20.880 --> 1:04:23.160 at the quarterbacks here? Yeah? No, I was just trying 1:04:23.160 --> 1:04:25.080 to say. I was trying to say, because the Colts 1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:27.520 we had, we had talked about the Colts when they 1:04:27.520 --> 1:04:29.600 were three, all you chub, Chub chub, that was a 1:04:29.680 --> 1:04:31.880 name that was always yeah. And now they back up 1:04:31.920 --> 1:04:33.360 and they get him at six, and they could get 1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:37.960 him at six. So yeah, I wonder, you know, Denver, 1:04:38.400 --> 1:04:40.160 I can't see the clock right now, but they're kind 1:04:40.160 --> 1:04:42.600 of running out of time. But yeah, does somebody want 1:04:42.600 --> 1:04:44.800 a pass rusher bad enough that they would trade into 1:04:44.840 --> 1:04:47.280 that spot, because I mean we've heard forever that Denver's 1:04:47.320 --> 1:04:50.520 definitely willing to sell that pick. Yeah, and I don't 1:04:50.560 --> 1:04:53.080 I mean, I don't know the answer. Yeah, Well, Denver 1:04:53.240 --> 1:04:55.240 was trying to it sound like that Denver was trying 1:04:55.240 --> 1:04:58.920 to get to the Giants at two, and obviously we're 1:04:59.000 --> 1:05:03.240 unsuccessful doing that. So let's see if, in fact, if 1:05:03.240 --> 1:05:05.160 we look at the Broncos team, need we talk about 1:05:05.160 --> 1:05:09.200 the quarterbacks, We talk about linebacker, and we talk about 1:05:09.280 --> 1:05:11.760 running back, but you know, again, we kind of feel 1:05:11.760 --> 1:05:15.080 like that it's going to be the quarterback. Which quarterback? 1:05:15.080 --> 1:05:18.120 Do you think that John Elway, now you know, covets 1:05:18.960 --> 1:05:23.360 for his uh for his team. If if, in fact, 1:05:23.880 --> 1:05:26.720 did they make that pick and they liked they like Baker, 1:05:26.920 --> 1:05:31.160 liked Baker, he's a brown now, um, and that's I 1:05:31.160 --> 1:05:33.360 don't know. I mean, I guess, I mean, Josh Allen 1:05:33.360 --> 1:05:35.640 and Josh Rosen are obviously there, But do they like 1:05:35.760 --> 1:05:37.840 one of those guys enough to spend this pick. That's 1:05:37.840 --> 1:05:40.720 what makes me wonder if they'd be willing to trade 1:05:40.760 --> 1:05:42.480 out of this spot, if somebody was willing to do it. 1:05:42.520 --> 1:05:44.600 I just read the Bills aren't willing to give up 1:05:44.640 --> 1:05:46.480 as much as it would cost to get sure. So 1:05:46.800 --> 1:05:49.520 the Bills might be sitting there thinking, well, maybe maybe 1:05:49.520 --> 1:05:51.880 our guys gonna get to us. Maybe they don't have 1:05:51.920 --> 1:05:54.240 to move at twelve. Maybe they liked one of these 1:05:54.280 --> 1:05:57.400 guys a little bit more, and let's see, you know 1:05:57.480 --> 1:06:00.280 what's going on there with because they might just be 1:06:00.320 --> 1:06:02.919 sitting there and saying, all right, we'll take it. Looks 1:06:02.920 --> 1:06:05.320 like the picks in for Denver. Yeah, they had they 1:06:05.320 --> 1:06:07.320 had a like they had two or three minutes still 1:06:07.400 --> 1:06:11.040 left on the clock. So obviously we surprise no trades yet. Yeah, absolutely, 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:13.200 I mean why was gonna we were all like predicting 1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:16.560 in our draft shows in like this chaotic situation you know, 1:06:16.600 --> 1:06:19.440 with people uh, you know, moving up and down the 1:06:19.480 --> 1:06:22.440 board here. But as it played out that way, these 1:06:22.480 --> 1:06:24.160 teams are just making their pick and we got a 1:06:24.160 --> 1:06:27.120 long way to go. So here we go. It's the 1:06:27.120 --> 1:06:30.400 Broncos again. Their pick is in. We're just ware. Do 1:06:30.440 --> 1:06:31.640 you want to take a Do you want to take 1:06:31.680 --> 1:06:33.760 a guess which one of those quarterbacks they liked? Dane? 1:06:33.960 --> 1:06:35.160 Do you want to see which one? Dude? Do you 1:06:35.200 --> 1:06:38.480 have a quarterback? Are you convinced it's a quarterback? No? Yeah, No, 1:06:38.520 --> 1:06:40.840 I think I think John Oeys quarterback burned out? Do 1:06:40.880 --> 1:06:43.000 you think so? Yeah? I think I think Paxson Lynch 1:06:43.040 --> 1:06:45.000 still haunts him. And so he went with a more 1:06:45.040 --> 1:06:47.680 safe approach with case Keenum. Okay, So he's gonna take 1:06:47.720 --> 1:06:50.640 a positional pay. Think they wanted Denzel Ward, okay, and 1:06:50.680 --> 1:06:52.960 so I think he's a little surprised Denzel Wards not there. 1:06:53.000 --> 1:06:55.680 And so what's option B. They have a need a guard. 1:06:56.240 --> 1:06:57.640 They do have a need a guard. I think quittin 1:06:57.680 --> 1:06:59.600 Nelson to be a home run pick here, safest player 1:06:59.600 --> 1:07:02.000 in the draft after Yeah, the best player in the draft. Yeah. 1:07:02.000 --> 1:07:06.360 They they've they've they're right built here, they're they traded 1:07:06.400 --> 1:07:09.080 for their uh let me say, traded for a right 1:07:09.120 --> 1:07:13.360 tackle and they haven't really done anything left since then. 1:07:13.400 --> 1:07:15.680 But okay, let's go. The pick is in for the 1:07:15.720 --> 1:08:28.320 Denver Broncos. Okay, there you go, Bradley Chubby Tom pass 1:08:28.400 --> 1:08:30.920 rusher on the draft. Yeah. And if you kind of 1:08:31.000 --> 1:08:32.640 you know you you look at the some of the 1:08:32.720 --> 1:08:36.000 needs for the Broncos we talked about that they look for. 1:08:36.120 --> 1:08:40.639 It seemed like more than the uh, interior defensive lineman, 1:08:40.680 --> 1:08:42.000 where some of the thoughts that it was not so 1:08:42.080 --> 1:08:44.600 much on the on the on the edge, but the 1:08:44.680 --> 1:08:47.519 Denver Broncos they they've added. The Broncos said, if you 1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:50.400 don't want to have the nastiest pass rushing exact one, 1:08:50.400 --> 1:08:52.679 we'll do it for you. I think that's something that's 1:08:52.680 --> 1:08:54.880 really I think that they said, you know what, this 1:08:54.920 --> 1:08:58.360 guy is way way, way too too good to pass on. 1:08:58.439 --> 1:09:00.439 So is that is that kind of a bp A 1:09:00.560 --> 1:09:03.120 thing right there? I mean assuming depending on how I think. 1:09:03.240 --> 1:09:06.760 Day made a great point about being U the quarterback 1:09:06.840 --> 1:09:09.040 being a little you know, a little shy there right now. 1:09:09.400 --> 1:09:12.200 They're burnout. They're burnout on that. The Paxton Lynch, I 1:09:12.200 --> 1:09:16.800 mean the osweiler Um. You know that they've they went 1:09:16.840 --> 1:09:18.680 to safe route and threw a lot of money at 1:09:18.720 --> 1:09:22.519 case Keenum and they're okay riding with him. And we 1:09:22.640 --> 1:09:26.960 heard Chris Harris, the cornerback say publicly, hey man, anybody 1:09:27.080 --> 1:09:29.479 but a quarterback. You know, we're ready to win right now. 1:09:29.720 --> 1:09:32.160 Give us someone who's gonna help. This guy Rabley Chubb's 1:09:32.160 --> 1:09:35.760 gonna help. So the Denver Broncos, Funny, what did you 1:09:35.760 --> 1:09:38.519 have ranked on your board? Day three? Three? There you go? 1:09:39.280 --> 1:09:41.599 That's I mean, I like that. Pick a lot for them, 1:09:41.600 --> 1:09:44.360 And yeah, I mean we case Keenum can get you 1:09:44.400 --> 1:09:47.400 to the conference championship game. Beef that defense up a 1:09:47.439 --> 1:09:50.479 little bit. Yeah, we saw that all the two last year. Y. 1:09:51.000 --> 1:09:53.599 I tell you what, Broncos finally have a pass rusher. 1:09:53.640 --> 1:09:56.400 Oh wait, they still have von Miller. Yeah that's pretty 1:09:56.400 --> 1:09:59.920 good right there. Not about duo. So yeah, the Broncho 1:10:00.200 --> 1:10:03.360 select Bradley Chubb from North Carolina State. Well, I'll tell 1:10:03.360 --> 1:10:06.160 you he is fun to watch on tape that he 1:10:06.200 --> 1:10:08.040 gets thrilled load to the ground. He looks like von 1:10:08.120 --> 1:10:10.240 Miller coming around the corner that way been compared a 1:10:10.240 --> 1:10:11.920 little bit to von Miller. Hasn't a little bit of 1:10:11.960 --> 1:10:14.519 a pen throw if you're Chris Ballard. Yeah. See, now 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:16.559 we were talking about maybe that they would get Chubb 1:10:16.680 --> 1:10:19.519 and at the Colts, and the Colts are now on 1:10:19.560 --> 1:10:23.160 the clock. There were at the sixth pick so far 1:10:23.320 --> 1:10:27.240 just recapping Baker Mayfield to the Cleveland Browns, say Kwon 1:10:27.320 --> 1:10:30.320 Barkley to the Giants, and then you have Sam Darnold, 1:10:30.320 --> 1:10:32.519 the quarterback from usc goes to the New York Jets. 1:10:33.120 --> 1:10:36.280 Denzel Ward, the very talented cornerback from Ohio State, is 1:10:36.320 --> 1:10:40.599 in Cleveland, and the Denver Broncos have just selected Bradley Chubb, 1:10:40.760 --> 1:10:43.320 the defensive end from North Carolina State. So we will see. 1:10:43.680 --> 1:10:45.840 It looks like to me that the pick is in 1:10:46.600 --> 1:10:49.640 for the Indianapolis Colts. This this is gonna be an 1:10:49.640 --> 1:10:52.439 interesting pick because the Colts have so many areas. That's 1:10:52.439 --> 1:10:54.559 a bad roster, and that is a that is a 1:10:54.600 --> 1:10:56.519 bad roster. It's a roster that we saw in the 1:10:56.560 --> 1:10:59.640 preseason and I'll tell you what it was. It was 1:10:59.720 --> 1:11:03.679 not very good and the ballard will have his hands full, 1:11:03.720 --> 1:11:06.120 but he knows how to pick. He likes to draft, 1:11:06.280 --> 1:11:08.640 and so he will find a way to uh to 1:11:08.720 --> 1:11:11.400 do some things to try and improve his team defensive end. 1:11:11.400 --> 1:11:14.160 We talked about that they just lost Chubb. You know, 1:11:14.320 --> 1:11:17.320 linebacker is a situation. Is this is this too early 1:11:17.360 --> 1:11:21.200 for Smith? I'm taking see I want, I want Quentin Nelson. 1:11:21.360 --> 1:11:25.400 See no, but you're you're yeah, you figured it out, okay, 1:11:25.439 --> 1:11:27.519 that the best player in the draft is here at six. 1:11:28.120 --> 1:11:31.520 You have your team sucks, and you have a quarterback 1:11:31.520 --> 1:11:34.000 with a gimpie shoulder. I will say I think he 1:11:34.080 --> 1:11:36.719 will be surprised if it's not Quenton Nelson a Roquan Smith. 1:11:36.760 --> 1:11:38.920 I think it should be one of those two, but 1:11:38.960 --> 1:11:42.520 more so Quentin Nelson and I love Roquan Smith. But man, 1:11:42.560 --> 1:11:45.240 that's tough because I again, I think Roquan Smith is 1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:47.839 a perfect fit for what they want to do on defense. 1:11:48.200 --> 1:11:51.160 But you're talking about Andrew Luck who hasn't played in 1:11:51.160 --> 1:11:53.479 a while because of injury. Yeah, that offensive line was 1:11:53.520 --> 1:11:56.439 so bad, huh. I mean Jakoby were said he had 1:11:56.479 --> 1:11:58.680 no chance. You watch those games, I mean he is 1:11:58.680 --> 1:12:02.040 getting hit. If you're order back some help. Yeah, I 1:12:02.200 --> 1:12:04.760 think clearly this this to me if they don't, if 1:12:04.760 --> 1:12:07.920 they don't take Nelson here and I and I you know, 1:12:08.000 --> 1:12:11.920 I'm okay with Smith. I have no problem with Smith. Smith, 1:12:12.040 --> 1:12:15.599 but man that it just seems obvious to me. Well, 1:12:15.720 --> 1:12:18.680 we'll see. Here comes the commissioner. He's heading for the podium. 1:12:18.720 --> 1:12:21.639 The Colts about to make their pick. It's the sixth overall. 1:12:33.240 --> 1:12:35.600 Here you go to a lot of a lot of 1:12:35.640 --> 1:12:38.280 teams not overthinking it right now. And I like that, right, 1:12:38.479 --> 1:12:41.439 just do what makes sense. The Colts just got the 1:12:41.439 --> 1:12:43.599 best player in the draft. Yeah, I thought so too. 1:12:43.800 --> 1:12:46.120 I thought so too. And you know, as much as 1:12:46.160 --> 1:12:49.679 I as much as I love Roquan Smith, I think 1:12:49.720 --> 1:12:51.720 this is a heck of a pick. And he was 1:12:51.760 --> 1:12:54.960 my he was my top radio player on my top 1:12:55.040 --> 1:12:59.720 of the top fifty. I think he's will immediately come in. 1:12:59.800 --> 1:13:01.800 He he could have a very similar career to what 1:13:01.840 --> 1:13:05.120 we've seen with Sack Martin, that type of guy. One 1:13:05.120 --> 1:13:07.880 of my oldest and dearest friends is a die hard 1:13:07.920 --> 1:13:11.200 Colts fan, and he was texting me this morning just saying, like, 1:13:11.240 --> 1:13:13.200 if if they have a chance to draft Quintin Nelson 1:13:13.200 --> 1:13:16.080 and they don't do it. I'm gonna lose my damn mind. 1:13:16.200 --> 1:13:19.080 So way to go, Ryan, and I just don't don't 1:13:19.120 --> 1:13:21.960 overthink it, don't overthink it. Just just draft the draft. 1:13:22.000 --> 1:13:24.000 You have the need, The best player in the draft 1:13:24.040 --> 1:13:27.719 is there at six, and just just pull the trigger. 1:13:28.040 --> 1:13:30.320 It's easy. Chris Ballard, you know last year one of 1:13:30.320 --> 1:13:32.959 the best players that draft fell to him, Mallie Cookery 1:13:33.200 --> 1:13:38.000 happens again this year. Hopefully better injury luck um with Nelson, 1:13:38.080 --> 1:13:40.760 But Colts are a better team, there's no question. And 1:13:40.800 --> 1:13:43.000 if you're Andrew Luck, you're fist pumping because you just 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:45.200 got a guy that's can help protect you. That's absolutely right. 1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:48.000 What I want to know is, look who's on the 1:13:48.040 --> 1:13:51.920 clock right now. The Buccaneers dwin. This is a big one. Yeah, 1:13:52.000 --> 1:13:57.280 because if it's not durrwin, can we start thinking about 1:13:57.720 --> 1:14:00.000 the unthinkable? Well, okay, just to give you a little 1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:03.719 heads up, what's going on. Okay, the curtain is down 1:14:04.600 --> 1:14:06.800 on the camera. Point, the curtain is down on the 1:14:06.840 --> 1:14:10.000 camera and it's been down now for a while. And 1:14:10.040 --> 1:14:12.800 we just have a trade. And so you think, well, 1:14:12.880 --> 1:14:14.280 we do have a trade. We do have a trade. 1:14:14.320 --> 1:14:16.840 The Buffalo Bills are just traded up, hey, number seven, 1:14:17.240 --> 1:14:19.200 So the Buffalo Bills have now chair going up to 1:14:19.400 --> 1:14:24.360 their quarterback. Yeah, okay, there, Derwin James survives another pick. Okay, 1:14:24.640 --> 1:14:27.920 so Dane Bruglo unless unless the Bills are going up 1:14:27.920 --> 1:14:30.080 for Derwin James, we don't. I'm assuming it's a quarterback. 1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:33.360 Shout up, you know, as it will be a quarterback. Okay, 1:14:33.400 --> 1:14:36.360 it still shows that the Buccaneers are on the clock 1:14:36.520 --> 1:14:41.160 at at at five fifteen left in the pick or 1:14:41.280 --> 1:14:43.720 left at the time on the clock. Let's see if 1:14:43.760 --> 1:14:46.240 in fact, again, Dan, you feel like that the Buffo, 1:14:46.320 --> 1:14:48.800 the Buffalo Bills have now found a way to get 1:14:48.800 --> 1:14:51.400 here to the seventh spot. You're moving up from twelve 1:14:51.479 --> 1:14:55.360 to seven. Um, that's a lot easier to fathom than 1:14:55.439 --> 1:14:57.639 the package that would have taken to move up from 1:14:57.640 --> 1:15:01.479 twelve to four or two. So you move up to seven. Uh, 1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:03.880 it's a three hundred point. That's a three hundred point 1:15:03.920 --> 1:15:05.840 difference right there on the trade chart. And so you're 1:15:06.360 --> 1:15:08.599 is at their third what's sixty five or sixty five 1:15:08.800 --> 1:15:12.200 is worth two sixty five? Maybe he took sixty five 1:15:12.240 --> 1:15:13.880 and maybe a throw in later in the draft to 1:15:13.880 --> 1:15:17.240 get done. Absolutely, And so if I'm I'm who's there, 1:15:17.320 --> 1:15:20.360 guys that Josh Allen is a Josh Rosen, is Lamar Jackson? 1:15:20.439 --> 1:15:24.960 Who who's their guy that I know? Who? I mean? 1:15:25.080 --> 1:15:28.320 I know I would take Rosen, That's who I would take. 1:15:29.840 --> 1:15:33.240 You're Josh Allen. You talk about the outdoor, the cold, Well, no, 1:15:33.520 --> 1:15:35.960 I know, I know, But I'm talking about my highest 1:15:36.040 --> 1:15:39.000 rated quarterback. Sure, I'm talking about my highest rated guy. 1:15:39.080 --> 1:15:41.040 So if it's me on my board and they take 1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:44.240 and they take Josh Rose, I keep saying that he's 1:15:44.280 --> 1:15:46.960 Matt Ryan to me, Yeah, he is Matt Ryan to me. 1:15:47.040 --> 1:15:48.800 And they they traded up to get in front of 1:15:48.840 --> 1:15:52.519 Miami and eleven Ryan to get in front of maybe 1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:55.920 in Arizona or Baltimore Chargers, one of these other teams 1:15:55.960 --> 1:15:58.519 looking at trade up for the quarterback. So if he's 1:15:58.560 --> 1:16:01.240 Matt Ryan, signed me up. Yeah, Okay, So we again 1:16:01.320 --> 1:16:04.160 we think this is that we think that this yes, 1:16:04.240 --> 1:16:08.280 but Buffalo has now been put on the clock. We're 1:16:08.320 --> 1:16:10.400 all thinking that it is a quarterback. We talked about 1:16:10.479 --> 1:16:14.120 it was potentially pick sixty five, right, Dane three hundred 1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:16.240 points difference on the on the trade chart to go 1:16:16.360 --> 1:16:19.559 from uh to go from twelve to seven and pick 1:16:19.600 --> 1:16:21.519 sixty five is what the Bill's got from the Browns 1:16:21.520 --> 1:16:24.200 and the Tyrod Taylor deal exactly right. So that pick 1:16:24.280 --> 1:16:27.880 is worth two hundred and sixty five points. So we 1:16:27.920 --> 1:16:32.240 will see what happens here. They're showing now that that 1:16:32.600 --> 1:16:36.320 they're showing Josh Rosen right now, he looks very concerned 1:16:36.960 --> 1:16:41.360 about the situation and gets cold there. Yeah, he's thinking, 1:16:41.400 --> 1:16:43.880 oh my gosh. But maybe maybe maybe this is one 1:16:43.880 --> 1:16:46.360 of those things. Maybe my cold weather quarterback three comes 1:16:46.400 --> 1:16:50.120 into play here. But we will see. I'm honestly, I'm 1:16:50.160 --> 1:16:56.559 just looking, Okay, it's your trades official, Chicago, San fran Oakland, Miami, 1:16:56.880 --> 1:17:00.000 before you get to Tampa Bay. I'm looking at teams 1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:02.040 that might want a safety in that range. I'm trying 1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:04.200 to push my guy down the board. You're trying to 1:17:04.200 --> 1:17:06.120 get You're trying to get somebody too. I'm trying. I'm 1:17:06.160 --> 1:17:07.960 not trying to get them to me. I'm trying back 1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:10.759 to Tampa. Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying, that Tampa 1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:13.640 has put themselves in a position it's a time to 1:17:13.680 --> 1:17:16.240 call the Dolphins. I think I'm on the phone with 1:17:16.240 --> 1:17:18.200 the Dolphins. If you're interesting in road, Quand Smith then 1:17:18.240 --> 1:17:21.200 once again, guys, Well the ladies out there thinking Derwin James. 1:17:21.200 --> 1:17:23.599 But that's a good point. Roquan Smith is still there too. Yeah, 1:17:23.600 --> 1:17:25.840 well I'd be surprised Roke one doesn't go wait at 1:17:25.920 --> 1:17:28.880 Chicago the next pick. Okay, well we'll see. I mean 1:17:28.920 --> 1:17:31.439 if if these guys all of a a sudden, but you're right, 1:17:31.479 --> 1:17:34.160 Derwin James, If Derwin Jamie, if you can find a 1:17:34.200 --> 1:17:37.920 way to get to Miami, you know that that would 1:17:37.920 --> 1:17:41.320 maybe assured. And the curtain has been down on the 1:17:41.600 --> 1:17:44.200 war room camp for quite a bit, so you know, 1:17:44.280 --> 1:17:48.080 maybe they're talking about some situations right here for a 1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:52.040 potential trade. So again, Buffalo Bills on the clock, the 1:17:52.120 --> 1:17:56.240 picks in and uh at So we will see. If 1:17:56.240 --> 1:17:59.040 you look at the Buffalo Bills and we've talked about 1:17:59.120 --> 1:18:02.800 some of their team needs, Dane is uh been very 1:18:02.840 --> 1:18:05.479 adamant they've traded up for to try and grab a quarterback. 1:18:05.840 --> 1:18:07.960 I keep going back to what you've been saying about 1:18:08.040 --> 1:18:11.720 Josh Allen and Cleveland. Yeah, what you kept harping on 1:18:11.840 --> 1:18:14.920 was the outdoors elements. You can you can actually scout 1:18:15.000 --> 1:18:18.599 tape of Josh Allen playing in snow. Yeah, and that's 1:18:18.600 --> 1:18:22.040 going to appeal Litt Buffalo, Buffalo, November. I watched the 1:18:22.080 --> 1:18:24.040 game against the cold last year where it was you 1:18:24.080 --> 1:18:26.639 couldn't even see the field it was snow and so hot. Right, yeah, 1:18:26.680 --> 1:18:30.400 so who I mean, Jacobe bursts from North Carolina. I 1:18:30.960 --> 1:18:34.519 hate that. That's so dumb, so I keep going back 1:18:34.520 --> 1:18:37.960 to it, Buffalo. I mean, obviously that's not the uh 1:18:38.360 --> 1:18:40.920 A little bit. Yeah, Well, at this point in the 1:18:41.000 --> 1:18:43.200 draft with the seventh overall pick, sure, I'm not saying 1:18:43.240 --> 1:18:45.760 I would take Josh Allen, but I think that that 1:18:45.920 --> 1:18:47.760 might be what Buffalo is thinking. You know, you're taking 1:18:47.800 --> 1:18:51.080 the big, sturdy guy, that Ben Roethlisberger type of mold 1:18:51.120 --> 1:18:54.320 in terms of the jam Kellys, Yeah you guys, I mean, yeah, 1:18:54.360 --> 1:18:57.719 that can withstand the frigid air and the cold. Exactly. 1:18:58.080 --> 1:19:00.479 It's cold up there too. All right, Commission's walking to 1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:02.840 the podium. Let's see you the Buffalo Bills take seventh 1:19:02.880 --> 1:19:23.280 pick overall. There you go. They went up and got 1:19:23.280 --> 1:19:25.080 their gun, eager to see what they gave up. It was. 1:19:25.800 --> 1:19:28.080 We were just kind of speculating sixty five and maybe 1:19:28.120 --> 1:19:30.200 something else if they had to do something a little 1:19:30.240 --> 1:19:33.240 a little more than that, but not a surprising pick here. 1:19:33.280 --> 1:19:35.760 It doesn't sound like they're parting with twenty two though, No, 1:19:35.920 --> 1:19:38.160 no way, not to give a five spots maybe one 1:19:38.160 --> 1:19:44.120 of the seconds they have. But man, if you're a Buffalo, 1:19:45.280 --> 1:19:48.880 you're cautiously optimistic here, you know, I mean Josh Allen 1:19:49.439 --> 1:19:52.639 more surprising him going where he did or where where 1:19:52.680 --> 1:19:56.240 Baker Mayfield went. I'm just saying that first overall, right, 1:19:56.280 --> 1:20:00.360 that's Baker, Yeah, I don't. I mean, we we knew 1:20:00.479 --> 1:20:03.080 Josh Allen was going top ten somewhere, so for him 1:20:03.080 --> 1:20:05.360 to be at seven is not shocking at me. That's 1:20:05.600 --> 1:20:08.839 that's fair Baker. I was thinking anywhere from three to eleven. 1:20:09.400 --> 1:20:14.600 So wow, this is crazy my rankings for on my 1:20:14.680 --> 1:20:18.479 board Mayfield, I mean, it's gone flip, you know, as 1:20:18.479 --> 1:20:21.400 far as it's Mayfield went first, Darnold second, and now 1:20:21.439 --> 1:20:24.280 Allan and I have him. But this inverted in the 1:20:24.320 --> 1:20:27.759 inverted way. This is so much fun though, because again 1:20:28.560 --> 1:20:31.080 this is affecting everything from here on out. So now 1:20:31.160 --> 1:20:33.960 you know, Chicago, do they take a look at Roquan Smith. 1:20:34.920 --> 1:20:37.680 Maybe you know, Derwin James was so cond like he 1:20:37.720 --> 1:20:39.920 was so he was mocked to Tampa so often. Now 1:20:39.960 --> 1:20:41.559 they have a shot at him if they want him, 1:20:42.080 --> 1:20:45.679 and then that and now Josh Rosen, you would guess 1:20:45.720 --> 1:20:49.960 probably is available for Miami. Yeah. Yeah, it might be 1:20:50.000 --> 1:20:51.840 a great fit for him too. It might be an 1:20:51.840 --> 1:20:54.640 absolutely great fit for him. All right, day, tell me 1:20:54.720 --> 1:20:57.519 why again, Josh Shellen. Why does he have a chance 1:20:57.560 --> 1:21:00.519 in Buffalo? Well, it's it all centers on the physical 1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:04.599 traits he can his arm talent is rare. You don't 1:21:04.600 --> 1:21:07.880 just find guys like that. And I think you're optimistic 1:21:07.920 --> 1:21:10.360 because of the person you're getting the character. I mean, 1:21:10.360 --> 1:21:13.680 he's a football, he's all in. You worry about the accuracy, 1:21:13.760 --> 1:21:17.439 you worry about the decision making. He needs to develop 1:21:17.439 --> 1:21:20.719 in those areas, there's no question. But with better coaching 1:21:21.120 --> 1:21:24.280 and time to develop. Because with Aji McCarron there, he's 1:21:24.280 --> 1:21:25.880 not gonna be pressing in the action from day one. 1:21:25.920 --> 1:21:29.719 Asia McCarron can cradle that job for the next however 1:21:29.720 --> 1:21:32.240 long it takes until Josh Allen's ready, because it's very 1:21:32.280 --> 1:21:34.679 important for a player like this not to be thrust 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:37.120 in the action. Sam Darnold, if he needs to play 1:21:37.200 --> 1:21:39.920 right away, he could do that. Should feel okay. Josh 1:21:39.920 --> 1:21:43.240 Allen not quite the same. He needs to be brought 1:21:43.280 --> 1:21:45.880 along at his own pace, and when he's ready, that's 1:21:45.880 --> 1:21:48.880 when you put him in. Not going to force it. Well, 1:21:49.560 --> 1:21:53.559 it's just to recap again the last three picks. The 1:21:53.640 --> 1:21:57.840 Denver Broncos have selected Bradley Chubb, the defensive end from 1:21:57.840 --> 1:22:00.320 North Carolina State, that was at the fifth overall pick. 1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:03.879 The Colts at the sixth they've just taken Quentin Nelson, 1:22:04.360 --> 1:22:06.559 the guard from Notre Dame. We all love that pick. 1:22:06.960 --> 1:22:09.760 And now we understand what the Buffalo Bills. They make 1:22:09.800 --> 1:22:14.400 a small trade up, they go up five spots to 1:22:14.640 --> 1:22:17.080 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Will see what in fact that 1:22:17.160 --> 1:22:21.040 the Buccaneers pick up in that trade. We kind of 1:22:21.080 --> 1:22:23.840 feel like that part of the trade will be that 1:22:24.000 --> 1:22:27.080 third round pick to start the third round. It will 1:22:27.120 --> 1:22:30.719 be pick of excuse me, to be pick sixty five, 1:22:31.160 --> 1:22:33.200 so that'll be three sixty five. We think that will 1:22:33.240 --> 1:22:37.040 be part of the trade that that the Bills made. 1:22:37.439 --> 1:22:39.559 Do you like what the Bills did there? Do you 1:22:39.560 --> 1:22:42.800 like what I mean seeing the quarterback and you're just 1:22:42.840 --> 1:22:44.439 not a fan of the player at all? Are Yes, 1:22:45.040 --> 1:22:46.880 I'm not a fan of the player. I'm certainly not 1:22:46.920 --> 1:22:49.680 a fan of trading up for the player. Okay, I 1:22:49.720 --> 1:22:51.760 mean which eight I mean what I mean it's the 1:22:51.800 --> 1:22:54.320 Bills pick to use. Well, I mean no, I just 1:22:54.479 --> 1:22:57.479 I mean I just sit Yeah, I get that. I mean, 1:22:57.560 --> 1:22:59.760 quarterback is everything in this league. So right, you gotta 1:22:59.800 --> 1:23:02.200 take your chances. I'm gonna be fascinated to watch and 1:23:02.280 --> 1:23:06.000 see how it plays out, because again, everything I said 1:23:06.000 --> 1:23:08.280 about him not needing to get on the field. You know, 1:23:08.320 --> 1:23:11.240 the Josh Allen we saw, Well here here they get 1:23:11.280 --> 1:23:15.080 the two tell me the two second round picks. Seconds. Okay, 1:23:15.080 --> 1:23:18.280 what fifty three and fifty six? Okay, fifty three and 1:23:18.520 --> 1:23:22.280 fifty six. So there you go. That's a that now belongs. 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:28.040 Fifty three belongs to Tampa Bay, and then fifty six. 1:23:28.160 --> 1:23:31.559 So let's kind of look at that evaluate that trade 1:23:31.600 --> 1:23:35.439 a little bit. That's a total of seven hundred and 1:23:35.520 --> 1:23:38.320 ten points right there on that trade if you add 1:23:38.360 --> 1:23:41.240 those two together. If I think, if my math is correct, 1:23:41.240 --> 1:23:46.280 three seventy three forty is that seven ten? Real quick? 1:23:46.320 --> 1:23:49.160 I know, I'm so that's a that's a that's a 1:23:49.360 --> 1:23:50.880 had to overpay for to get the quarterback. They had 1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:53.360 to overpay to get the quarterback, which most trades are 1:23:53.479 --> 1:23:54.680 to get when you get it trying to trade it 1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:56.400 for a quarterback, you have to overpay. I don't know 1:23:56.439 --> 1:23:58.720 how you. I just do not know how you. You 1:23:58.760 --> 1:24:02.839 know the you look at that situation and which quarterback 1:24:02.840 --> 1:24:06.679 do you feel better about, Josh Allen or EJ Manuel? 1:24:08.000 --> 1:24:10.840 Just Josh Allen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. EJ Manuel is like 1:24:10.840 --> 1:24:13.800 a fourth round pick. He should have been Josh Allen. 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:15.400 There's a point in the first round where I would 1:24:15.400 --> 1:24:17.519 take a chance in Josh Allen at this early, but 1:24:17.560 --> 1:24:20.000 there was a point. Yeah. I hate the thought of 1:24:20.040 --> 1:24:22.280 taking a chance on a guy that you're trading up 1:24:22.320 --> 1:24:24.800 into the top ten to get. Yeah, oh, I agree. 1:24:24.840 --> 1:24:27.640 I would not have done this move. If I'm Pittsburgh 1:24:27.680 --> 1:24:30.280 sitting there at twenty seven or whatever, I would have 1:24:30.360 --> 1:24:32.559 made rolled the dice on Josh Allen. There we go. 1:24:32.640 --> 1:24:35.880 But I'm not you know, I don't think he's EJ 1:24:36.000 --> 1:24:39.840 Manuel is terrible. Yeah, yeah. It says a lot when 1:24:39.920 --> 1:24:42.960 Dane is willing to speak so author like, so draft 1:24:43.040 --> 1:24:45.240 is so bad? It really well they went back and 1:24:45.280 --> 1:24:47.200 looked at it the other day. Do you think that? 1:24:47.280 --> 1:24:49.479 Do you think Buffalo feels like they got out cheap 1:24:49.520 --> 1:24:52.160 on this one to make the court to make the 1:24:52.200 --> 1:24:54.800 trade I mean, I mean, if you mean we've kind 1:24:54.840 --> 1:24:56.760 of talked about them trying to get up in you know, 1:24:56.880 --> 1:24:59.920 for them, we say it's an overpay. I mean all 1:25:00.000 --> 1:25:03.360 they had to really make up was look at they 1:25:03.400 --> 1:25:05.479 actually kicked in the extras two is what they do 1:25:05.520 --> 1:25:08.360 to get this thing done. Look at Buffalo. Who's their 1:25:08.400 --> 1:25:12.680 brain trust? Uh? I mean their general manager? Uh? I 1:25:12.680 --> 1:25:16.200 mean Sean McDermott, head coach, Sure, Brandon Bean GM. They 1:25:16.200 --> 1:25:18.400 came up through Carolina. You gotta pick, and we gotta 1:25:18.439 --> 1:25:20.360 pick a pick in Chicago. Here we go. Then you 1:25:20.360 --> 1:25:29.120 an outside linebacker in Chicago. Get ready, there you go. 1:25:29.200 --> 1:25:34.760 It's a great pick. Okay. Roquan Smith one of our 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:37.240 favorite players here on the Draft Show. Honestly, if he 1:25:37.280 --> 1:25:40.519 can't be a cowboy, which was never possible, I love 1:25:40.640 --> 1:25:43.639 I just love the thought of this badass playing at 1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:47.920 Soldier Field wearing those awesome uniforms with the you know, 1:25:48.080 --> 1:25:52.960 gash on the sleeve. Yeah, you got snow flying like 1:25:53.040 --> 1:25:55.800 the turf is on your arms because you're just hitting 1:25:55.840 --> 1:25:58.519 the ground every play. Like, I just that's awesome. I 1:25:58.600 --> 1:26:00.920 love this pick. I love that play. If you're if 1:26:00.960 --> 1:26:03.479 you're the Bears, you have to feel good about this. Um, 1:26:04.200 --> 1:26:06.960 I think you felt good. Quittin Nelson, Denzel Ward one 1:26:06.960 --> 1:26:08.320 of those guys we're gonna fall to you. And here 1:26:08.360 --> 1:26:10.519 it was Roquan Smith, who one of the best players 1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:13.200 in this draft. Yeah, and we all love. I mean, 1:26:13.240 --> 1:26:15.160 this is a guy that never comes off the field. 1:26:15.439 --> 1:26:17.280 I mean he I mean he is going to play 1:26:17.320 --> 1:26:21.519 every single snap, run, hit, get to the ball, cover, 1:26:22.080 --> 1:26:25.600 He's going to be a leader. You're Chicago, this is 1:26:25.600 --> 1:26:27.519 a this is a good start for them. I mean 1:26:27.520 --> 1:26:30.360 they last year. You look at Mike Mike Singletary. Yeah, 1:26:30.640 --> 1:26:34.640 they drafted last year with Mitchell Trubisky. And then you 1:26:34.760 --> 1:26:38.599 know Adam chan the tight end. It was there, Eddie Jackson, 1:26:38.880 --> 1:26:41.040 you know, Tarik Cohen, I mean it was you know, 1:26:41.560 --> 1:26:44.960 Cohen was a really good pick. But anyway, so Roquan Smith, 1:26:45.040 --> 1:26:48.680 the linebacker, very talented linebacker from Georgia, is now with 1:26:48.880 --> 1:26:52.360 the Chicago Bears. Okay, that puts the San Francisco forty 1:26:52.439 --> 1:26:55.559 nine ers on the clock. They've got about five minutes 1:26:55.600 --> 1:26:59.559 and forty seconds to deal with with that. We've kind 1:26:59.600 --> 1:27:02.400 of thought along the second linebacker might be the guy 1:27:02.479 --> 1:27:04.920 that goes here, right. Yeah, when we talk about Edmonds, 1:27:05.080 --> 1:27:07.439 another player they brought in that they like quite a bit, 1:27:07.479 --> 1:27:11.200 as Minka Fitzpatrick. There you go. Um it's and this 1:27:11.400 --> 1:27:12.800 is not a knock on him, but like I just 1:27:12.960 --> 1:27:15.599 forget about him, and it's like he's like the forgotten guy, 1:27:15.680 --> 1:27:18.040 Like he's a stud. Yeah, he has a stud number 1:27:18.040 --> 1:27:19.800 two on my board, and I know I'm hiring him 1:27:19.800 --> 1:27:23.600 the most. But I think you're looking at Edmunds or 1:27:23.600 --> 1:27:26.280 if Fitzpatrick here. That makes a lot of sense. I 1:27:26.400 --> 1:27:28.840 think one other. I think you have to include pass 1:27:28.920 --> 1:27:32.519 rusher here. Yea, they want a pass rusher back. I 1:27:32.880 --> 1:27:34.559 agree with you on that might come down to who 1:27:34.560 --> 1:27:38.200 they like better, Marcus Davenport or Harold Nandry. Oh. Nine 1:27:38.280 --> 1:27:41.679 feels high for Marcus Davenport. That's literally I was about 1:27:41.720 --> 1:27:44.960 to say, yeah, but who who fits? Like who could 1:27:45.000 --> 1:27:47.360 you draft? I'm the edge right now. Davenports number eleven 1:27:47.400 --> 1:27:50.040 on my board, so it got him in that range. Yeah, 1:27:50.400 --> 1:27:53.439 it's not a huge jump for me, but I get 1:27:53.520 --> 1:27:58.920 people who have the reservations. Fifteen feels much more comfortable 1:27:59.000 --> 1:28:01.720 for Davenport for me, but hey, I don't know. Oh, 1:28:01.880 --> 1:28:05.479 Dane's right though. They did visit Mika Fitzpatrick. Yeah, and 1:28:05.560 --> 1:28:07.439 they like him, I know they do. Yeah, for a fact, 1:28:07.479 --> 1:28:10.640 they like MIKEA. Fitzpatrick enough to take him here. I 1:28:10.680 --> 1:28:14.040 don't know, we'll see, but uh, it's definitely a name 1:28:14.160 --> 1:28:18.160 that is being discussed. So yes, the forty nine ers 1:28:18.400 --> 1:28:21.040 are on the clock again. As we said, we are 1:28:21.080 --> 1:28:24.519 waiting that this is the ninth overall selection the draft. 1:28:24.720 --> 1:28:29.000 Over on the over on the Twitter sphere, um Ian 1:28:29.120 --> 1:28:31.680 Rappaport is saying the Bucks might be trying to come 1:28:31.800 --> 1:28:34.960 back up because we got to we linked him to 1:28:35.040 --> 1:28:37.360 Derwin so much like they're willing to trade away from him, 1:28:37.400 --> 1:28:39.320 but not too far. Well, they they got they got 1:28:39.439 --> 1:28:41.920 an overpay on the on the pick, they got really 1:28:42.000 --> 1:28:45.120 basically an extra second round pick. Yeah, sure is what 1:28:45.280 --> 1:28:47.720 they did. So you know, I mean that that's uh, 1:28:47.840 --> 1:28:50.080 that is good that they go use that they use 1:28:50.160 --> 1:28:52.720 that one back up. Yeah, that's that one kind of 1:28:52.800 --> 1:28:54.920 snuck under the radar for me right there. I was 1:28:54.960 --> 1:28:57.200 looking more in the third to try and get the 1:28:57.320 --> 1:29:00.200 three hundred point difference. But that they they you to 1:29:00.280 --> 1:29:03.519 make that move. They got the second that the second 1:29:03.560 --> 1:29:06.680 of the second round picks for the Buffalo to kick 1:29:06.760 --> 1:29:08.960 those in, so you know, good for them to make 1:29:09.040 --> 1:29:11.920 that that trade. But we've talked about this, so you 1:29:11.960 --> 1:29:15.160 don't think you don't think it's going to be Edmunds. 1:29:15.560 --> 1:29:17.240 You don't think that. I mean, I think he's in 1:29:17.280 --> 1:29:20.080 the mix. I mean Edmund's pass Rusher. It seems like this, 1:29:20.479 --> 1:29:22.840 it seemed like this is the one that every every 1:29:22.920 --> 1:29:26.080 mock draft, it was always Edmunds here. It was always him, 1:29:26.080 --> 1:29:28.720 always him. People connect the dots with Ruben Foster and yeah, 1:29:28.720 --> 1:29:31.200 who he might never play in the NFL again, who knows, 1:29:31.640 --> 1:29:33.080 and even if he does come back, might not be 1:29:33.160 --> 1:29:36.320 for San Francisco. So it makes sense why you know 1:29:36.400 --> 1:29:40.680 we're linking Edmund's there, But um, you can't rule out 1:29:40.720 --> 1:29:43.000 Minka and we can't rule out pass Rusher. I think, Okay, 1:29:43.000 --> 1:29:44.880 where do you play Minka? Where do we figure that out? 1:29:45.000 --> 1:29:47.360 Is he can still be the slot corner type guy 1:29:47.479 --> 1:29:50.080 for this team. He's probably playing nickel. You have Richard 1:29:50.160 --> 1:29:53.200 Sherman and kell Of Witherspoon on the outside exactly, you 1:29:53.280 --> 1:29:55.960 insert Minka and the nickel. I think you feel pretty 1:29:55.960 --> 1:29:58.320 good about that. Yeah, I mean that that's a lot 1:29:58.400 --> 1:30:00.960 of height and length at your corner back position. Yeah. 1:30:00.960 --> 1:30:02.880 And they've and then they've also they're they're going to 1:30:02.960 --> 1:30:05.960 try Ward at corner to help, but you know, that 1:30:06.080 --> 1:30:08.240 makes an issue at safety for them as well, So 1:30:08.360 --> 1:30:11.720 it's not really clear. Again, I would like to think that, uh, 1:30:12.160 --> 1:30:13.560 you know that we have a plan for this, but 1:30:13.920 --> 1:30:33.719 here we go San Francisco. Is their selection is in ah, 1:30:35.439 --> 1:30:38.240 hey at our first big time surprise in the night 1:30:38.320 --> 1:30:42.400 while Baker obviously, but uh, I don't I heard Oakland 1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:46.200 so much? Well that means Trent Brown's gone. Yeah, well 1:30:46.240 --> 1:30:49.040 he's been rumored to be a trade guy there. Yeah, yeah, 1:30:49.040 --> 1:30:51.680 they're going to trade him then if they're drafting Mike 1:30:51.760 --> 1:30:55.240 McGlinchey and Staley is thirty three years old too, so yeah, 1:30:56.120 --> 1:30:58.559 this is this is this you gotta protect Jimmy g right, 1:30:58.680 --> 1:31:00.840 absolutely have to. So yeah, this was kind of one 1:31:00.880 --> 1:31:04.040 of those sneaky needs that they had. But here goes 1:31:04.120 --> 1:31:08.400 the best offensive tackle, Mike McGlinchey off the board to 1:31:08.640 --> 1:31:11.479 the San Francisco forty nine ers. And again Dane Bruger 1:31:11.640 --> 1:31:14.000 was all over this when they talked about, you know, 1:31:14.080 --> 1:31:16.880 with Brown again being a rumored a trade guy and 1:31:17.000 --> 1:31:19.360 then with Stanley being thirty three years old, they need 1:31:19.400 --> 1:31:23.120 to add a little bit more a better quality of player. 1:31:23.160 --> 1:31:27.160 A little bit more depth there. And Mike McGlinchey surely 1:31:27.439 --> 1:31:29.600 is that Dane talk about him a little bit and 1:31:29.760 --> 1:31:32.599 what she liked about him at a Notre Dame. Well, 1:31:32.640 --> 1:31:34.639 he's got experienced on the right side and the left side. 1:31:35.400 --> 1:31:37.960 Played right side when Ronnie Stanley was there. Ronnie Stanley 1:31:38.000 --> 1:31:40.200 got drafted in the first round at top ten to 1:31:40.280 --> 1:31:42.680 the Baltimore Ravens two years ago, moves over to the 1:31:42.720 --> 1:31:45.960 left side, and that Notre Dame pipeline at left tackle continues. 1:31:46.720 --> 1:31:50.320 Zach Martin Ronnie Stanley. People argue about like position you 1:31:51.160 --> 1:31:53.519 Notre Dame with the O line. It's pretty sick, man, 1:31:54.000 --> 1:31:57.040 It is ridiculous. And so here we are, Mike McGlinchey 1:31:57.080 --> 1:31:58.920 going to the forty nine ers, and I guess this 1:31:59.080 --> 1:32:01.840 means Trent Browns right days are numbered, I would I 1:32:01.840 --> 1:32:03.880 would guess I mean Mike mcglinchi. I think could play 1:32:03.960 --> 1:32:07.400 guard until he's needed at tackle. That's possible, but I 1:32:07.439 --> 1:32:09.240 think it's more likely we see a trade here with 1:32:09.360 --> 1:32:12.479 Trent and Brown at some point over this weekend, traded 1:32:12.560 --> 1:32:16.080 for draft picks. You know what's funny is and we 1:32:16.200 --> 1:32:20.400 were all there to watch that stupid coin toss at 1:32:20.439 --> 1:32:23.200 the combine, that's right, And I mean and the Raiders 1:32:23.240 --> 1:32:25.800 have been linked to Mike McGlinchey for at least a 1:32:25.840 --> 1:32:29.160 couple of weeks. So to think that a coin toss decides, 1:32:29.240 --> 1:32:31.120 you know, whether this guy in which side of the 1:32:31.200 --> 1:32:33.479 bay he ends up on is kind of funny. Yeah, 1:32:33.640 --> 1:32:35.680 I don't know. That's a good point, um, because he 1:32:35.760 --> 1:32:38.519 had Donald Penn's thirty five years old left tackle in Oakland. 1:32:38.880 --> 1:32:42.960 So Mike Glinchi was definitely in play. So now with 1:32:43.080 --> 1:32:47.720 the Raiders at ten, I mean Fitzpatrick's available. Yeah, do 1:32:47.840 --> 1:32:49.160 we have anyone trying to trade up to get in 1:32:49.240 --> 1:32:52.679 front of Miami to get the quarterback? Well, I'm looking 1:32:52.760 --> 1:32:58.160 right now here's the trade. There you go Rosen or 1:32:58.360 --> 1:33:01.320 Lamar Jackson? Could could Lamar Jackson go ahead of Rosen? 1:33:01.720 --> 1:33:04.800 That would be surprising, you think? So that would be 1:33:04.880 --> 1:33:06.880 surprised If five minutes I told you, Mike mcglinch, you 1:33:07.000 --> 1:33:09.160 is definitely going nine, right, you would hear the same thing. 1:33:09.280 --> 1:33:12.920 You're right, Well, okay, let's let's out there. Let's weigh this. 1:33:13.080 --> 1:33:15.600 Then let's what's way? Which way you think that they 1:33:15.640 --> 1:33:18.400 would go? I mean it's you know, you Steve Kime. 1:33:18.640 --> 1:33:21.360 You know, he's been a longtime general manager out there. 1:33:22.160 --> 1:33:24.200 You think he goes for the dynamic guy or does 1:33:24.240 --> 1:33:26.479 he go for the guy that that's just pretty steady. 1:33:26.600 --> 1:33:29.519 And I know, I know he's not the coach there anymore. 1:33:29.640 --> 1:33:33.200 But Bruce arians gave. Oh he loves, yeah, he loves. 1:33:33.360 --> 1:33:36.000 He loved Lamar Jackson. He really really did. I mean, 1:33:36.040 --> 1:33:38.880 you look at the quarterbacks on that roster, uh with 1:33:39.960 --> 1:33:43.760 Sam Brideford, Mike Lennon, Josh Rosen would fit that, you know, 1:33:43.880 --> 1:33:47.519 that type of quarterback. But Lamar Jackson, he's the complete 1:33:47.560 --> 1:33:49.720 wild card in this in this draft, no one knows, 1:33:50.160 --> 1:33:51.639 you know, where he's gonna go. A lot of teams 1:33:51.680 --> 1:33:53.360 like him. Do they like him enough to actually turn 1:33:53.439 --> 1:33:55.760 that card in? We're gonna find out here. So what 1:33:55.880 --> 1:33:58.200 kind of quarterback you think the Cardinals need to play 1:33:58.320 --> 1:34:02.080 in the NFC West? A good one? I mean, no, no, 1:34:03.439 --> 1:34:05.479 I know, but but think of think of the type 1:34:05.520 --> 1:34:08.000 would you know? Again, I'm trying to I'm trying to 1:34:08.080 --> 1:34:10.439 get a game quarterback. They've had the quarterbacks they've had 1:34:10.600 --> 1:34:13.080 Kurt Warner, Christ and Palmer. Yeah, I mean, they've had 1:34:13.200 --> 1:34:17.200 the traditional pocket passer. Right, they got a legitimate running 1:34:17.240 --> 1:34:18.880 game there too with that with that bat, and I say, 1:34:18.880 --> 1:34:21.720 imagine putting Lamar Jackson back there with David Johnson kid. 1:34:21.760 --> 1:34:23.760 And that's what I was thinking. Yeah, do they want 1:34:23.800 --> 1:34:25.120 to go in the same direction though and get a 1:34:25.160 --> 1:34:27.439 pocket passer or they are they ready to switch it up? 1:34:27.880 --> 1:34:30.439 You know? And that that's going to be the questionnaire. 1:34:30.479 --> 1:34:32.840 If ARIANS was there, I would say, that's the type 1:34:32.880 --> 1:34:35.080 of coach I want to give Lamar Jackson too, you 1:34:35.120 --> 1:34:37.000 know what I mean. But and I don't know, Steve 1:34:37.040 --> 1:34:40.599 Wilkes is he's a defensive guy. Yes, yes, yeah, Carolina, right, 1:34:40.800 --> 1:34:43.680 So you know, I don't know. Maybe they go with 1:34:43.800 --> 1:34:45.880 the safer pick. Well safer in terms of you know, 1:34:46.000 --> 1:34:47.760 you know more what you're getting and how he's going 1:34:47.840 --> 1:34:50.400 to adjust. I think they got to their GM will 1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:52.280 make some move. I mean he obviously did here. He 1:34:52.360 --> 1:34:55.040 went up you know, a few spots to uh to 1:34:55.200 --> 1:34:57.599 grab a we think it's going to be a quarterback. 1:34:57.640 --> 1:34:59.240 I just I have a hard time believing this is 1:34:59.320 --> 1:35:01.840 Lamar because as I think you more content to let 1:35:02.000 --> 1:35:05.040 him kind of fall to you, you know, which I 1:35:05.120 --> 1:35:07.479 could be wrong, but I feel like if you're making 1:35:07.520 --> 1:35:10.120 this move, it's because you don't trust Josh Rosen to 1:35:10.120 --> 1:35:12.320 get past We missed something here? Could they be looking 1:35:12.360 --> 1:35:15.680 at a corner? Could could this be I mean other 1:35:15.720 --> 1:35:17.960 than Patrick Peterson, they really don't have anything at the 1:35:18.040 --> 1:35:20.160 two and the three. No, you can get a corner later. 1:35:20.200 --> 1:35:22.280 You're trading up for the quarter. I have a hard 1:35:22.320 --> 1:35:24.519 time believe in you're doing this move knowing what they 1:35:24.640 --> 1:35:27.040 need right and again knowing that Miami is a team 1:35:27.080 --> 1:35:30.400 that likes Josh Rosen. It's hard for me to imagine 1:35:30.439 --> 1:35:32.519 that they're doing this for anything but a quarterback. And 1:35:32.800 --> 1:35:35.000 I mean, if I had to guess, I would say, 1:35:35.120 --> 1:35:37.559 I think this is Rosen. I would agree. I think 1:35:38.840 --> 1:35:40.439 I think that he is the favorite to go here. 1:35:40.520 --> 1:35:44.200 And it makes sense again, Kurt Warner, Carson Palmer, Josh Rosen. 1:35:44.439 --> 1:35:47.880 I mean it's for the Cardinals. I mentioned it earlier. 1:35:48.200 --> 1:35:51.479 They have arguably the worst quarterback situation in the NFL 1:35:51.720 --> 1:35:53.800 thirty two out of thirty two, they might have the worst. 1:35:54.280 --> 1:35:58.160 Josh Rosen would certainly change that, and it'd be a 1:35:58.200 --> 1:36:01.400 fun quarterback competition in training camp. See those three quarterbacks 1:36:01.800 --> 1:36:03.719 duke it out. Josh Rosen as a as a chance 1:36:03.880 --> 1:36:07.120 to be the guy there well, it seems like to 1:36:07.200 --> 1:36:09.080 me that that, you know, and I like what you're saying, 1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:12.320 Dave about Bruce Arians. I think Bruce Arians is still 1:36:12.479 --> 1:36:14.519 like he's not there anymore. That no, I know, But 1:36:14.640 --> 1:36:17.320 I like what you're saying about maybe that, Hey man, 1:36:17.400 --> 1:36:19.439 you gotta take this guy, don't you. I mean, don't 1:36:19.439 --> 1:36:21.479 you kind of you know he's he's talking about. Here 1:36:21.520 --> 1:36:23.800 we go, Okay, so it's saiders get a third out 1:36:23.840 --> 1:36:25.479 of it. Yeah, so we get a third and the 1:36:25.560 --> 1:36:28.000 fifth right, third and the fifth on that one on 1:36:28.120 --> 1:36:31.479 the So what are the number one? What's the number 1:36:31.680 --> 1:36:34.120 right there? Three and O five seventy nine And I 1:36:34.200 --> 1:36:36.200 want to say it was one fifty two. Okay, So 1:36:36.640 --> 1:36:38.880 I just I couldn't see around the camera here. But 1:36:39.880 --> 1:36:42.120 so the Raiders will pick up that they moved. The 1:36:42.240 --> 1:36:44.880 Raiders moved down to fifteen. They pick up a third 1:36:45.000 --> 1:36:48.200 round pick and a fifth round pick. And so they're 1:36:48.240 --> 1:36:51.560 showing the the Arizona Cardinal War Room right now. I 1:36:51.840 --> 1:36:54.120 the picks gotta be in there. All there. We go, Yeah, 1:36:54.120 --> 1:36:56.479 the picks in. We're just waiting for the commissioner to 1:36:56.760 --> 1:36:59.960 walk to the podium. We've we think it's going to 1:37:00.280 --> 1:37:04.000 be a quarterback here I threw out there. Hey, Sam 1:37:04.120 --> 1:37:07.280 and Josh have fun in Buffalo in New York. I'm 1:37:07.320 --> 1:37:10.679 gonna hang out in freaking Phoenix. You really do believe 1:37:10.680 --> 1:37:12.560 it's Rosen? Do you believe? Do you believe? Do you 1:37:12.600 --> 1:37:15.479 beats Jackson? I think it's Rosen. I think I thinks Rosen. 1:37:15.520 --> 1:37:17.200 That's why I would lean. I think you could get 1:37:17.320 --> 1:37:20.080 Lamar Jackson at fifteen if that's what you wanted. If 1:37:20.120 --> 1:37:22.479 you want them, you gotta go get them. Though it's true, 1:37:22.600 --> 1:37:24.320 you're right, but I mean you only gave up a 1:37:24.400 --> 1:37:27.720 three and of five. Yeah, the Raiders must have wanted 1:37:27.760 --> 1:37:30.000 out of that pick. Oh, the Raiders, John Gruden, they 1:37:30.080 --> 1:37:31.920 probably him and Reggie were probably about to have a 1:37:32.040 --> 1:37:35.080 fist fight in the war room over who was going. 1:37:35.200 --> 1:37:37.120 And to go back to what we were talking about, 1:37:37.120 --> 1:37:39.400 I wonder how much the McGlinchey pick factored into that. 1:37:39.600 --> 1:37:41.320 I mean, maybe that's the guy that had their heart 1:37:41.360 --> 1:37:43.120 set on sure and they're like, wor right, let's get 1:37:43.120 --> 1:37:45.280 out of here. Yeah, and you said, Dave, maybe one 1:37:45.479 --> 1:37:48.320 fifty two. It was it's one fifty two and seventy nine. 1:37:48.360 --> 1:37:50.599 There you go, you got it right there. That's absolutely right. 1:37:50.680 --> 1:37:52.400 So the Raiders do pick up that that would be 1:37:52.439 --> 1:37:55.240 a third round pick, and the commissioner's walking to the podium. 1:37:55.320 --> 1:37:57.280 So let's see what he has to say about the 1:37:57.320 --> 1:38:15.439 Arizona Cardinals at the tenth overall pick. There you go, 1:38:15.560 --> 1:38:20.479 good job, Dan Burglar. All right, Josh Rosen, the quarterback 1:38:20.600 --> 1:38:22.880 from UCLA, he had a little bit of weight there 1:38:22.920 --> 1:38:25.639 in the green room at there at at and T Stadium, 1:38:25.680 --> 1:38:28.920 but he is heading two, heading to Pac twelve country. 1:38:29.000 --> 1:38:32.760 Aaron Rodgers says, you had a weight, shut up. He 1:38:32.840 --> 1:38:36.280 went ten overall. He went ten overall. So yes, Josh Rosen, 1:38:37.000 --> 1:38:40.840 Uh you like that fit. You know, he was my 1:38:40.960 --> 1:38:43.720 top rated quarterback. He was my he was my top guy. 1:38:43.840 --> 1:38:46.160 And he's gonna I think it's gonna be a good situation. 1:38:46.320 --> 1:38:48.880 Just it's a huge sigh of relief for him. Just 1:38:49.439 --> 1:38:51.719 you see him just breathe and now put that smile 1:38:51.760 --> 1:38:53.799 on his face. So yeah, he's going to the desert 1:38:53.880 --> 1:38:57.519 and again close to uh, he's in a situation where 1:38:57.560 --> 1:38:59.400 he's uh, you know, he's played a lot of football 1:38:59.439 --> 1:39:03.160 out there with UCLA and it played at Arizona. They're 1:39:03.160 --> 1:39:06.000 gonna play in Washington, La. I mean that's that's a 1:39:06.000 --> 1:39:08.800 good that's a good spot for him to kind of 1:39:08.840 --> 1:39:11.320 be in some familiar surroundings for him. I could probably 1:39:11.400 --> 1:39:13.479 use a little bit of help. I mean, David David 1:39:13.560 --> 1:39:16.599 Johnson's a great player. Larry Fitzgerald is on the He's 1:39:17.080 --> 1:39:19.400 to steal a phrase from you, he's like driving up 1:39:19.400 --> 1:39:21.360 to the eighteenth. Yeah, he's playing. He's playing that, he's 1:39:21.400 --> 1:39:23.679 playing the seventh. He's putting out at seventeen. Right. Yeah, 1:39:23.760 --> 1:39:25.799 he's gonna get his ball and head over the eighteenth. 1:39:25.960 --> 1:39:27.960 So you can use a little bit of help. Four 1:39:28.080 --> 1:39:31.640 quarterbacks in the top ten. What we mentioned this on 1:39:31.680 --> 1:39:34.679 the Draft Show. Almost every week, if you want a quarterback, 1:39:34.800 --> 1:39:36.760 you need to go get him. Yeah. And except for 1:39:36.800 --> 1:39:39.360 the Browns, who could not trade up further than one, 1:39:39.800 --> 1:39:42.559 every other team that drafted a quarterback trade it up. Yeah. Yeah, 1:39:42.600 --> 1:39:45.360 so history tells us you want a quarterback, you better 1:39:45.400 --> 1:39:47.880 trade up for him. Okay, Well that means that the 1:39:48.000 --> 1:39:51.400 Arizona Cardinals again, they take Josh Rosen the quarterback. I 1:39:51.560 --> 1:39:55.080 just think watching him play and Matt Ryan, I mean 1:39:55.240 --> 1:39:57.240 I just see a guy that's see a guy that 1:39:57.320 --> 1:39:59.600 took a lot of hits. There's some questions we we 1:39:59.680 --> 1:40:01.760 kind of went into some of the questions about him. 1:40:01.960 --> 1:40:06.760 Dane Brugler was absolutely right. He's had two known concussions. 1:40:07.479 --> 1:40:10.000 Dane has even talked about a shoulder that was a 1:40:10.080 --> 1:40:12.880 tennis injury that he had to give up. And so 1:40:13.320 --> 1:40:15.320 but I do know for a fact there are some 1:40:15.520 --> 1:40:20.559 concerns about that about his concussions. So we will see 1:40:21.160 --> 1:40:25.000 what in fact that happens with him. But the Arizona 1:40:25.080 --> 1:40:27.920 trades up for their guy, and and here we go. Now, Okay, 1:40:27.960 --> 1:40:31.719 if you're the Dolphins, Lamar Jackson's sitting there, how enticing 1:40:31.840 --> 1:40:36.639 is that Ryan Tannehill's coming back off the ACL Ryan 1:40:36.680 --> 1:40:38.240 Tannehill has not proven to be a guy that can 1:40:38.360 --> 1:40:42.720 lead you to the playoffs. Yeah, that's interesting. Can I 1:40:42.920 --> 1:40:45.240 can I derail that for a second? And just I'm 1:40:45.320 --> 1:40:48.040 thinking about this big star that's on the wall behind you. Guys, 1:40:48.320 --> 1:40:52.240 Um you're picking nineteenth. Yeah, so you just saw a 1:40:52.280 --> 1:40:54.960 team give up a third and a fifth to jump 1:40:55.040 --> 1:41:00.719 five spots. What you're thinking, Brian? You know what, I'm 1:41:00.800 --> 1:41:02.519 still I'm in that mode right now. And as we 1:41:02.640 --> 1:41:06.519 do a shift here, it's like hockey. It's like hockey here. 1:41:06.640 --> 1:41:10.600 Kevin Turner, Kevin Turner is the right guy to have 1:41:10.720 --> 1:41:13.000 here because I just read your tweet. Yeah yeah, let's 1:41:13.040 --> 1:41:16.240 have fun, right, So yeah, we pick up Kevin Turner 1:41:16.439 --> 1:41:18.519 from one oh five three the fan Kat Welcome to 1:41:18.600 --> 1:41:23.240 the Fray, Tremaine, m Tremaine, Edwin's Derwin James, and Minka 1:41:23.320 --> 1:41:26.880 Fitzpatrick are all hanging around right now. I just want 1:41:26.880 --> 1:41:28.439 to throw that out there. You're gonna try to get 1:41:28.439 --> 1:41:31.599 me to trade, aren't you brought us? Is? No brought us? 1:41:31.720 --> 1:41:34.280 Is I'm the one trying to have this conversation because literally, 1:41:34.320 --> 1:41:36.000 it just it only costs a third and a fifth 1:41:36.040 --> 1:41:40.080 to go five spots exactly. No, if you're okay, again, 1:41:40.160 --> 1:41:43.400 the war room cam has been covered for quite oh yeah, 1:41:43.680 --> 1:41:45.720 quite a bit. Right now, let's see if in fact 1:41:45.760 --> 1:41:48.680 it stays covered for them to go We've talked about this, 1:41:48.840 --> 1:41:53.519 for them to go to uh to Miami, it'd be 1:41:53.600 --> 1:41:57.120 a straight two. Now again, the Oakland Oakland should have 1:41:57.200 --> 1:41:58.680 on their trade. They end up getting a three and 1:41:58.760 --> 1:42:01.200 to five. Oakland on the chart, should got a two 1:42:01.240 --> 1:42:03.160 and a five. Yeah, and they got a three and 1:42:03.280 --> 1:42:05.080 five instead. That might have been a little bit of 1:42:05.120 --> 1:42:07.439 a panic picks in for the Dolphins. So we're gonna, 1:42:07.439 --> 1:42:09.800 We're gonna, we're gonna select somebody here, so can't go 1:42:09.920 --> 1:42:12.600 to Dolphins now the next team would be well, and 1:42:12.760 --> 1:42:14.920 then if you want Derwin James, I mean, the team 1:42:14.960 --> 1:42:16.840 that's been linked to him all along is about to 1:42:16.840 --> 1:42:19.799 be on the clock. So I don't know if that's realistic. Katie, 1:42:20.080 --> 1:42:22.080 what do you your your thoughts right now? I mean, 1:42:22.160 --> 1:42:24.280 I know that we're bringing in here. I mean, you've 1:42:24.320 --> 1:42:25.880 been on the other side on one oh five three? 1:42:26.720 --> 1:42:30.000 Has it been the way you thought? How's that kind 1:42:30.000 --> 1:42:32.439 of transpired for you? You know, I was not surprised 1:42:32.439 --> 1:42:34.759 at all by the Baker Mayfield thing, but the Denzel 1:42:34.840 --> 1:42:37.280 Ward thing caught me off guard a little bit. I 1:42:37.320 --> 1:42:40.160 thought Chubb and Miles Garrett together was too much to 1:42:40.240 --> 1:42:42.960 pass up on and for them to go cornerback, which 1:42:43.000 --> 1:42:45.200 they need help in their secondary. They absolutely have to 1:42:45.240 --> 1:42:48.120 have secondary help. But it's just not the direction I 1:42:48.200 --> 1:42:50.120 thought that things were gonna go. And it's it's kind 1:42:50.120 --> 1:42:52.840 of turned the whole draft upside down. It has and uh, 1:42:53.320 --> 1:42:56.240 again we're just waiting on the Dolphins pick there at 1:42:56.640 --> 1:43:00.880 at eleven. It is, it is, in fact, we're waiting again. 1:43:00.960 --> 1:43:03.760 It is. Uh, it's like the commissioner. Yeah, he's going 1:43:03.800 --> 1:43:06.320 to walk to the podium, so let's see who in 1:43:06.479 --> 1:43:10.200 fact coming from He's coming from there. So yeah, let's 1:43:10.200 --> 1:43:26.000 see Commissier Goodell for the Dolphins pick at eleven Mica Fitzpatrick. 1:43:28.439 --> 1:43:31.320 I like that he said defensive back. Yeah, they were 1:43:31.400 --> 1:43:33.640 trying to figure out where to play. That's a lot 1:43:33.720 --> 1:43:38.560 of teams had questions about where to play Mika Fitzpatrick. 1:43:38.600 --> 1:43:40.880 Do you play him as a slot corner? Do you 1:43:41.040 --> 1:43:44.599 play him, you know, just as a safety? But yeah, 1:43:44.640 --> 1:43:47.120 they've kind of, uh, they've kind of said, Okay, we're 1:43:47.160 --> 1:43:50.680 gonna list him as a defensive back and go from there. Uh. 1:43:51.040 --> 1:43:55.160 And they continue to put stock in Ryan Tannehill. Yeah, 1:43:56.000 --> 1:43:59.080 because I thought that might be the spot where they 1:43:59.120 --> 1:44:02.400 would have to take a quarterback, but I guess not. Yeah. 1:44:02.479 --> 1:44:04.360 I mean and if you look at if you look 1:44:04.360 --> 1:44:07.840 at what they've they've talked about, they're if you look 1:44:07.880 --> 1:44:11.920 at the Dolphins need they've drilled the Dolphins or the 1:44:12.040 --> 1:44:14.960 media down, there's drilled the Dolphins about a true middle 1:44:14.960 --> 1:44:18.360 of the field safety. After you know, Adam Guy said 1:44:18.360 --> 1:44:20.599 he didn't feel like his two safeties Jones and McDonald 1:44:20.680 --> 1:44:24.160 didn't mesh very well, so is this a situation where 1:44:24.320 --> 1:44:27.880 Mica Fitzpatrick is going to play safety? You know, and 1:44:28.080 --> 1:44:31.200 but we've also talked about you know, I think well that, 1:44:31.200 --> 1:44:33.560 I mean, this is a you know, and Dane, like 1:44:33.720 --> 1:44:35.760 Dane said, he's higher than him on most but you 1:44:35.840 --> 1:44:38.000 just said the number two guy on his board. Yeah. 1:44:38.080 --> 1:44:41.280 It much like the Broncos with Bradley Chubb. You take 1:44:41.320 --> 1:44:43.720 the best player there, figure out where he's gonna play later. 1:44:43.960 --> 1:44:45.760 You can play safety, he could play corner. You could 1:44:45.800 --> 1:44:47.560 do them a little bit of everything. How far do 1:44:47.600 --> 1:44:51.120 you think Lamar Jackson falls now the fifth quarterback of 1:44:51.240 --> 1:44:53.360 the bunch. It's a really good point because I would 1:44:53.400 --> 1:44:56.000 have said he doesn't fall further than Arizona, And now 1:44:56.040 --> 1:44:59.120 Arizona doesn't. They picked, they they got their quarterback. Are 1:44:59.160 --> 1:45:01.479 a chance he makes it passed or the Cowboys pick 1:45:01.520 --> 1:45:06.880 at nineteen? There's definitely a chance. But what about Baltimore? Yeah, 1:45:07.760 --> 1:45:11.160 Chargers need to consider it too, right. I think I 1:45:11.240 --> 1:45:13.880 think the Chargers are clearly in play here on this one. 1:45:14.120 --> 1:45:16.760 I am I weird if I think they don't want 1:45:16.840 --> 1:45:20.639 that type of quarterback though, pro style. I mean, Lamar 1:45:20.760 --> 1:45:23.040 Jackson's a pro style quarter and I and you're right. 1:45:23.280 --> 1:45:25.640 He actolutely. He keeps strange to some people, but he 1:45:25.840 --> 1:45:28.280 is he can play from the pocket. You're absolutely right, 1:45:28.400 --> 1:45:31.000 that's that's not fair of me. I'm just thinking I 1:45:31.720 --> 1:45:35.160 can't imagine the Chargers playing with a quarterback who can run. 1:45:35.240 --> 1:45:37.120 I mean, I'm so like, Philip Rivers is the most 1:45:37.200 --> 1:45:40.600 statuesque quarterback in the league. That dude can't scramble for 1:45:40.680 --> 1:45:44.960 his life, So that would that would be interesting. But yeah, 1:45:45.080 --> 1:45:48.880 I mean Baltimore, the Chargers, well, the Chargers. I mean again, 1:45:49.000 --> 1:45:51.120 there's you know, Philip Rivers, He's having to make those 1:45:51.160 --> 1:45:54.160 trips from San Diego to la If it's not Baltimore 1:45:54.200 --> 1:45:57.120 or the Chargers, then then I'm thinking New England is 1:45:57.160 --> 1:45:59.400 the next most likely landing spot. Can we see a 1:45:59.439 --> 1:46:02.599 New England up? Yeah, I set that at the start 1:46:02.640 --> 1:46:05.560 of the show. Well, I'm with you, I'm with you. 1:46:05.840 --> 1:46:08.439 Is that why Lamar Jackson's well, and he didn't really 1:46:08.479 --> 1:46:11.000 have a lot of reps? Is that why Lamar Jackson's reps? 1:46:11.320 --> 1:46:13.439 We're telling other teams, oh yeah, we're not gonna meet 1:46:13.439 --> 1:46:15.639 with you, or not getting back to teams about meetings. 1:46:15.880 --> 1:46:19.120 Do you think New England did under the table Hey, hey, 1:46:19.280 --> 1:46:21.439 don't don't meet with anyone else, nobody. We're gonna come 1:46:21.479 --> 1:46:23.720 get you. Nobody likes to conspiracy theory more than you. 1:46:24.000 --> 1:46:26.479 It makes sense, though, doesn't it It does? Doesn't it 1:46:26.560 --> 1:46:28.560 make a lot of sense? It does. We'll come get you. 1:46:28.720 --> 1:46:31.760 You don't, don't meet with anyone else. We'll come get you, man. Yeah. 1:46:32.040 --> 1:46:34.280 And they got the ammunition to do it, the inventory. 1:46:34.439 --> 1:46:36.439 They got the four picks in the first two rounds. 1:46:37.120 --> 1:46:39.960 This fun, boys, let's let's you're getting me off track here, 1:46:40.080 --> 1:46:42.439 because Tampa Bay is on the clock. Tampa Bay is 1:46:42.600 --> 1:46:44.400 Not only is Tampa Bay on the clock, but Tampa 1:46:44.520 --> 1:46:48.040 Bay is very strongly linked to the player that I 1:46:48.200 --> 1:46:51.360 want more than any other. Yeah, and if he doesn't 1:46:51.439 --> 1:46:56.160 go here, then things are interesting for me in Cowboyland. 1:46:56.280 --> 1:46:58.600 Now the war room is covered up, so I have 1:46:58.760 --> 1:47:03.360 no idea if agree with me, But man, I'm man 1:47:03.479 --> 1:47:07.320 in some phones right now. Oh we're back, okay, Yeah, 1:47:07.320 --> 1:47:09.000 the war is back. Does not look like a war 1:47:09.120 --> 1:47:12.559 room that is bustling with activity either. No, and it's 1:47:12.640 --> 1:47:16.320 getting close to their pick, well, actually seven picks away 1:47:17.080 --> 1:47:20.760 from the cowboys. Everybody looks very locked in to what's 1:47:20.800 --> 1:47:24.080 going on right there. No real surprise. Dave was talking 1:47:24.080 --> 1:47:27.320 about really no big activity. If if you're I mean, 1:47:27.400 --> 1:47:29.640 if you're talking about having a trade, somebody would be 1:47:29.680 --> 1:47:31.880 on the phone right now, you would have you'd probably 1:47:31.920 --> 1:47:34.000 have a little bit of a huddle maybe. Yeah. And 1:47:34.200 --> 1:47:37.080 by the way, the war room is uh, the war room, 1:47:37.160 --> 1:47:39.600 mccam is there. It's inside the Ford Center at the 1:47:39.640 --> 1:47:41.559 start here in Frisco. So I just want to get 1:47:41.640 --> 1:47:44.439 that in there for that. Will McClay working on some 1:47:44.680 --> 1:47:47.639 notes he might be working on the up and down 1:47:47.800 --> 1:47:50.800 chart here, he's got that again. That the legal sheet 1:47:50.840 --> 1:47:52.720 of paper he's trying to explain to it looks like 1:47:52.800 --> 1:47:55.880 to Jason Garrett, uh, you know what it might cost 1:47:55.920 --> 1:47:58.639 to go up and get somebody picks in from Tampa. 1:47:58.760 --> 1:48:01.120 By the way, we are focused right now on the 1:48:01.200 --> 1:48:04.880 Cowboys war room. If it's not Derwin, what are we 1:48:04.960 --> 1:48:08.000 thinking here for Tampa Bay? Could they go defensive line? Yeah? 1:48:08.120 --> 1:48:11.920 Could this? Could they? Marcus Davenport? Uh, well, maybe beef 1:48:11.960 --> 1:48:14.439 it up in the middle a little bit. Yeah, yeah, 1:48:14.560 --> 1:48:17.320 that's what alongside McCoy right, Okay, Well, now here the 1:48:17.400 --> 1:48:21.320 can the camera. They must be listening to our broadcast. Hey, 1:48:21.360 --> 1:48:24.920 they're talking about it. That camera cover the camera up. 1:48:25.000 --> 1:48:27.600 So yeah, but the picks in for Tampa and so 1:48:28.280 --> 1:48:30.400 we will we'll see who in fact that is. But 1:48:31.479 --> 1:48:34.360 i'd like to you know, Vinavea is an interesting thought 1:48:34.479 --> 1:48:38.679 right here, Katie, I really want him at nineteen. Yeah, 1:48:39.280 --> 1:48:41.280 I mean, I think that's where the Cowboys were kind 1:48:41.280 --> 1:48:43.160 of looking at their charts and seeing where could they 1:48:43.520 --> 1:48:45.000 can they get to? Can they get up to you know, 1:48:45.080 --> 1:48:47.640 can they get the Green Bay and get you know, 1:48:47.720 --> 1:48:51.200 green Bay was kind of hunting rush edge players and 1:48:51.280 --> 1:48:54.839 they were also hunting. Now could they get Davenport at nineteen? 1:48:55.160 --> 1:48:58.040 Is that? Is that too much of a string considerate? Oh? 1:48:58.120 --> 1:49:00.519 Green Bay? Green Bay? Green Bay? Yeah? I think they could. 1:49:01.200 --> 1:49:03.360 I mean, who do you think goes first? Landry or Davenport? 1:49:04.120 --> 1:49:07.280 Should be Landers should be Landry, But I think Davenport 1:49:07.320 --> 1:49:09.400 would probably go before. And you know, we were talking 1:49:09.439 --> 1:49:11.960 at the top of the show. Maybe the Cowboys don't 1:49:12.000 --> 1:49:14.479 feel as strongly about Harold Landry as we think they should. 1:49:14.520 --> 1:49:17.240 I mean, right, that's the trickiest thing about all this 1:49:17.560 --> 1:49:20.400 is trying to balance your own evaluations of these guys 1:49:20.439 --> 1:49:22.280 with what they think, because they're ultimately the ones that 1:49:22.360 --> 1:49:24.759 make the call. Okay, the commissioners walk into the podium, 1:49:24.800 --> 1:49:28.519 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with the twelfth pick overall, will 1:49:28.600 --> 1:49:47.360 make that selection. Are he is all right, Dave suit 1:49:47.439 --> 1:49:50.120 he's wearing Yeah, nice call Katie on that when you 1:49:50.240 --> 1:49:53.519 talked about that, and so look at that man, what 1:49:53.640 --> 1:49:55.920 a great look. They had two areas. Yeah, they needed 1:49:55.920 --> 1:49:58.160 to get better and it was on the defensive line 1:49:58.240 --> 1:50:00.479 or in the secondary. Yeah, they sure did so. Again 1:50:00.800 --> 1:50:03.960 and we talked about this on the Draft show. While back, David, 1:50:04.000 --> 1:50:06.840 it looks like a little bit of a slide for 1:50:07.080 --> 1:50:10.960 Derwin James here you called it people questioning, uh a, 1:50:11.240 --> 1:50:15.360 he had a knee in the past. The effort, fair 1:50:15.439 --> 1:50:18.599 type attitude on the field. People don't want an all 1:50:18.680 --> 1:50:21.320 programs I disagree with as well. Can I ask you 1:50:21.360 --> 1:50:23.800 a question about another player who's still on the board, Okay, 1:50:23.840 --> 1:50:28.320 go ahead. Would the Cowboys have interest in linebacker Tremaine 1:50:28.439 --> 1:50:31.360 Edmonds if he keeps falling? Helly see That's where I'm 1:50:31.439 --> 1:50:33.559 kind of yeah, but this and again it's tricky because 1:50:33.600 --> 1:50:36.240 again you're talking about guys that they weren't brought in 1:50:36.360 --> 1:50:38.200 on visits. He didn't hear a whole lot. Yeah, I 1:50:38.360 --> 1:50:40.599 wonder how much of that is because they didn't think 1:50:40.600 --> 1:50:42.240 they had a shot at him. He's just too good 1:50:42.280 --> 1:50:45.280 to pass. Okay, Yeah, and we're back. We're back from 1:50:45.320 --> 1:50:48.519 the uh. They've taken the cover off, so no, nobody 1:50:48.600 --> 1:50:51.080 working on this. Nobody here is surprised to see va 1:50:51.160 --> 1:50:53.600 Vea go. No, but it still sucks. Do they like 1:50:53.760 --> 1:50:56.800 Vanderesh more than Tremaine Edmonds? That's the thing, I mean, 1:50:57.080 --> 1:51:00.120 I don't know. They've been linked to vander Esh more 1:51:00.160 --> 1:51:02.280 than almost any other player. We know they like him 1:51:02.320 --> 1:51:06.240 a lot, do they? Are they not talking about Edmunds 1:51:06.280 --> 1:51:07.960 because they didn't think they could get him or because 1:51:07.960 --> 1:51:10.439 they don't like him? I don't know. I mean the 1:51:10.560 --> 1:51:12.160 only way to figure that out is to wait and 1:51:12.200 --> 1:51:17.439 see what happens. Because I think just about every mock 1:51:17.560 --> 1:51:21.160 I've ever seen didn't have Edmunds falling past Miami and no, no, 1:51:21.520 --> 1:51:23.960 he was, and I always saw him like ended up 1:51:23.960 --> 1:51:27.519 at San Francisco at nine exactly. He's been He's been 1:51:27.560 --> 1:51:29.519 thought of as a consensus top ten guy for a 1:51:29.600 --> 1:51:32.479 long time. Well, there's your defensive line for Tampa, Jason Pierre, 1:51:32.560 --> 1:51:38.320 Paul Gerald McCoy, Vita Vea involved there on that offensive, 1:51:38.680 --> 1:51:41.840 on that defensive line. That's pretty fun. Yeah, that's pretty 1:51:41.880 --> 1:51:44.599 fun right there. It is a pretty fun group right there. Okay, 1:51:44.600 --> 1:51:46.960 we're looking in the war room once again. Washington is 1:51:47.000 --> 1:51:49.120 on the clock at thirteen right now. They got about 1:51:49.160 --> 1:51:51.800 five minutes twenty seconds before they have to turn in 1:51:51.880 --> 1:51:56.400 their card. Jerry Jones Stephen Jones are talking right now, 1:51:57.080 --> 1:51:59.680 kind of huddled up there. Jason Garrett is following the 1:51:59.760 --> 1:52:03.760 dre straight away. Everybody looks very very calm in there 1:52:03.960 --> 1:52:06.479 for the situation they might be thinking about. Okay, do 1:52:06.600 --> 1:52:08.960 they Does it come down to where you have to 1:52:09.080 --> 1:52:11.840 take Katie? Where you take uh, you know, the two 1:52:11.920 --> 1:52:14.320 players where where we've been you've mentioned, you know, with 1:52:14.479 --> 1:52:17.640 the Derwin, James and Edmunds? Who you know, is there 1:52:17.720 --> 1:52:20.000 a possibility of a of a trade up? I think 1:52:20.000 --> 1:52:22.040 the guy that would trade up four would be James. 1:52:22.400 --> 1:52:25.040 But I think so too. But maybe you're gonna sit 1:52:25.080 --> 1:52:27.719 and let the ride this thing. We haven't been talking 1:52:27.800 --> 1:52:30.920 about Edmunds because we didn't feel like he was gonna 1:52:30.920 --> 1:52:33.519 be there. Okay, but let's all right, maybe we're going 1:52:33.600 --> 1:52:35.280 a little ahead of ourselves. Who cares we gotta fill 1:52:35.360 --> 1:52:38.000 five hours? We had six picks away. Yeah, we're pretty close, 1:52:38.160 --> 1:52:41.240 but maybe they don't like ed I mean, okay, this 1:52:41.439 --> 1:52:46.280 is amateur diagnosis, but can Edmunds do both? Yeah? I 1:52:46.360 --> 1:52:49.720 think I think you could play. Yeah, he screams Mike 1:52:49.840 --> 1:52:53.280 to me. Oh yeah, he's a big physical guy. And 1:52:53.640 --> 1:52:56.759 uh nobody has appeared yet into the war, many coaches 1:52:56.840 --> 1:52:58.880 or anything. But yeah, you who do you think could 1:52:58.920 --> 1:53:01.479 do both better? But beween him and Layton Vandert give 1:53:01.520 --> 1:53:03.439 me Edmond. I knew you were gonna say, yeah, it's 1:53:04.240 --> 1:53:05.920 I don't Yeah, I mean I have Edmonds is a 1:53:05.960 --> 1:53:08.200 first round guy on my board. I just think he 1:53:08.479 --> 1:53:10.680 mean you look at him, the way he plays the 1:53:10.880 --> 1:53:14.240 run hit factor right there. Yeah, I mean, no, you 1:53:14.320 --> 1:53:17.639 gotta again, you know you're you want big physical guys. 1:53:18.280 --> 1:53:20.280 That could be uh you know, it could be part 1:53:20.320 --> 1:53:22.400 of that. I really I haven't, you know, Like I 1:53:22.479 --> 1:53:24.640 keep saying, we barely talked about Edmonds because none of 1:53:24.680 --> 1:53:27.560 us thought he would still be available. Yeah, but and 1:53:27.680 --> 1:53:30.160 we might still lose him here and just a little bit. 1:53:30.520 --> 1:53:32.719 He's a guy. He's a guy where when you fire 1:53:32.800 --> 1:53:35.760 up the tape and start watching it, you're like, oh yeah, 1:53:35.760 --> 1:53:37.880 oh hi, I will say, with Washington on the clock, 1:53:38.000 --> 1:53:40.560 right now, A team that could use they could have 1:53:40.680 --> 1:53:43.840 used defensive line help again and they vey as gone. Yeah, 1:53:43.920 --> 1:53:46.160 cornerback could be something they have Josh Norman. We know 1:53:46.200 --> 1:53:48.200 they signed Orlando Scandrid, but they did have to pay 1:53:48.240 --> 1:53:51.000 a price of trading Fuller away to the Chiefs to 1:53:51.040 --> 1:53:53.760 get Alex Smith. So cornerback makes a lot of sense. 1:53:54.000 --> 1:53:56.920 Orlando Scander's not stopping you from doing something in the draft. 1:53:56.920 --> 1:53:59.800 Absolutely not. Well let me ask you this though, Alexander 1:54:00.080 --> 1:54:03.559 like Alexander more than say Hughes. I like Hughes more personally, 1:54:03.680 --> 1:54:07.120 but it's really close, you know for me. Um, you know, 1:54:07.200 --> 1:54:08.880 Hugh's kind of more of a get in your face 1:54:09.200 --> 1:54:11.479 with Josh Norman locking up one side of the field. 1:54:11.760 --> 1:54:13.360 I like Hughes to lock up the other side of 1:54:13.400 --> 1:54:17.240 the field. Yeah, but Alexander's very good. Um, they could 1:54:17.320 --> 1:54:20.200 used to edge help too, right, how about okay, how 1:54:20.200 --> 1:54:23.000 about this could okay picks in you see, maybe this 1:54:23.200 --> 1:54:27.360 could okay too early for one of these sinners for Daniels. 1:54:27.439 --> 1:54:29.360 I mean, if if you think about it, I mean, 1:54:29.400 --> 1:54:33.560 they lost, they lost long and then they have you know, 1:54:33.720 --> 1:54:36.880 problems at guard. Is this is this too early for 1:54:37.520 --> 1:54:40.000 an offensive lineman here, I'm just throwing out another name. 1:54:40.080 --> 1:54:42.280 I mean, and then all these teams know if they 1:54:42.360 --> 1:54:44.600 want that offensive lineman, they need to get them early. 1:54:44.760 --> 1:54:46.520 They need to get them today if they need it. 1:54:46.840 --> 1:54:50.240 I've never once believed this, But another another guy that's 1:54:50.280 --> 1:54:52.880 had a lot of smoke with the Redskins is Darius Guys. 1:54:53.040 --> 1:54:56.879 I've never understood that. But I mean, so I'm considering 1:54:56.960 --> 1:54:59.400 all my options here. I'll tell you what I mean. 1:54:59.600 --> 1:55:02.560 It's it's fascinated again. I just kind of I'm wondering 1:55:02.600 --> 1:55:07.640 about the slide a little bit here with uh with Edmonds, 1:55:07.960 --> 1:55:10.720 I really am. I mean, and and maybe the Cowboys 1:55:10.840 --> 1:55:13.800 might catch a break. We'll see how it all, uh, 1:55:13.880 --> 1:55:16.240 we'll see how it all transpires here. The Redskins Pick 1:55:16.400 --> 1:55:19.160 is in. We're just waiting for the commissioner to uh 1:55:19.680 --> 1:55:21.320 to go to the podium and make it. And he 1:55:21.480 --> 1:55:24.040 is on his way, So let's go there for the 1:55:24.320 --> 1:55:30.000 washing Redskins thirteenth overall. Pick. I think he's in the 1:55:30.080 --> 1:55:33.160 crowd kind of wondering, say this more bad camera worker. 1:55:33.240 --> 1:55:34.680 Is he gonna do this from the stand? Is he 1:55:34.800 --> 1:55:36.960 is he gonna? Is he coming from the ceiling. That's 1:55:36.960 --> 1:55:42.840 what I want to know, beazing. I don't say that. Yeah, 1:55:43.040 --> 1:55:45.120 don't say that. Here we go, we're trying to get 1:55:45.200 --> 1:56:03.080 and the commissioners walking here he comes. Hey, yes, wow, 1:56:05.400 --> 1:56:08.120 So worst run defense in the league and they need 1:56:08.160 --> 1:56:10.960 to add a run stopping defensive tackle. They failed addressed 1:56:11.000 --> 1:56:13.880 this a year ago. So man, uh yeah, we got 1:56:14.000 --> 1:56:16.880 Ziggie Hood is thirty one years old. So durn Payne, 1:56:17.680 --> 1:56:21.040 he's gonna prepare it now with his old Alabama teammate, 1:56:21.680 --> 1:56:25.160 uh from the from last year, Jonathan Allen. So you're 1:56:25.160 --> 1:56:30.000 gonna get that national championship type of cover H love connection. 1:56:30.720 --> 1:56:33.080 And I don't mean I think durn Paine's a hell 1:56:33.080 --> 1:56:34.800 of a player, don't get me wrong, But like I'm 1:56:34.800 --> 1:56:36.960 thinking about the Cowboys here, and that's a guy that 1:56:37.560 --> 1:56:40.320 I don't think they are super interested in taking him nineteenth. 1:56:40.360 --> 1:56:42.680 I am, I'm not super interested in taking him nineteenth. 1:56:43.000 --> 1:56:47.440 So Harold Landry, come on down, Derwin James, come on down, 1:56:47.560 --> 1:56:50.880 Tremaine Edmonds, come on down. Like there's a it's starting 1:56:50.920 --> 1:56:52.400 to look like there's a I mean, there's at least 1:56:52.400 --> 1:56:54.400 a decent chance that a guy we didn't think was 1:56:54.440 --> 1:56:57.360 gonna be there is gonna be there. Sure, and we 1:56:57.440 --> 1:56:59.880 had early Yeah, we had a bunch of different names. 1:57:00.200 --> 1:57:02.480 We need Lamar Jackson to go somewhere in these next 1:57:02.520 --> 1:57:04.800 four or five picks. Well, I don't think you know, Katie, 1:57:04.960 --> 1:57:08.040 you know you follow the Green Bay Packers pretty strongly. Yeah, 1:57:08.120 --> 1:57:11.080 my family, big Packer fans. And Okay, and and they're 1:57:11.160 --> 1:57:13.280 now on the they're now on the clock at the 1:57:13.480 --> 1:57:16.880 at fourteen. Is this is we've we've kind of talked 1:57:16.920 --> 1:57:20.720 about Davenport from UT San Antonio as being that guy. 1:57:20.960 --> 1:57:23.280 Is is in fact? Or are we still looking at 1:57:23.320 --> 1:57:26.000 one of the cornerbacks? Oh, here's the trade. Hey, here 1:57:26.080 --> 1:57:28.160 we go. They're gonna I just said we needed Lamar 1:57:28.240 --> 1:57:32.160 to go. Yeah, oh wow, here we go. There. We 1:57:32.240 --> 1:57:35.080 talked about it before this, before the show that the 1:57:35.640 --> 1:57:38.360 team that was gonna move up we thought would be 1:57:38.560 --> 1:57:41.000 the New Orleans Saints. Wait, god, we're so smart. We 1:57:41.080 --> 1:57:43.520 said this was gonna happen. Yeah, how about that coming 1:57:43.600 --> 1:57:46.600 up all the way from twenty seven up to fourteen. Okay, 1:57:46.680 --> 1:57:48.560 So here we go, we got a trade. Saints are 1:57:48.600 --> 1:57:51.880 on the clock. This is the Packers. Okay, Now, Katie, 1:57:51.920 --> 1:57:53.960 the Packers are going to back out of here and 1:57:54.040 --> 1:57:56.560 they're gonna go and as they've been known to do, 1:57:56.640 --> 1:57:59.760 they're gonna go all the way down to the twenty. 1:58:00.200 --> 1:58:01.480 We'll see what they get out of the trade. This 1:58:01.560 --> 1:58:04.880 puts the Saints now on the clock. We think this 1:58:05.080 --> 1:58:08.560 is for Lamar Jackson. And there's no questions it is. 1:58:08.720 --> 1:58:13.680 It goes from twenty seven to fourteen to draft anything else. Yeah, 1:58:13.720 --> 1:58:16.160 you just don't And it makes sense for the Saints. 1:58:16.560 --> 1:58:19.080 Drew Brees signed a two year extension, but he's he's 1:58:19.120 --> 1:58:22.840 turning forty soon. He's not gonna play forever. You get 1:58:22.880 --> 1:58:25.800 a five year option on it, and oh hey, we're 1:58:25.840 --> 1:58:28.520 talking about Bruce arians Yeah. You think Sean Payton can 1:58:28.600 --> 1:58:31.040 do a thing or two with Lamar Jackson. Yeah, this 1:58:31.160 --> 1:58:33.240 is I love this pick for the Saints. I know. 1:58:33.320 --> 1:58:36.040 I mean that's where I'm from. I would think that 1:58:36.080 --> 1:58:38.520 a lot of people down in New Orleans are going 1:58:38.560 --> 1:58:40.160 to be pumped about this. You think they give up 1:58:40.200 --> 1:58:43.080 next years one? It's got to be something, right. I 1:58:43.120 --> 1:58:45.080 wonder if they did that, If they give up next 1:58:45.160 --> 1:58:47.960 years one, I mean, that's the price you pay for 1:58:48.080 --> 1:58:50.640 jumping up that far to get quarterback. Yeah, you're you've 1:58:50.760 --> 1:58:54.200 you've gone, You've gone. Uh man, that's amazing. You get 1:58:54.280 --> 1:58:56.800 thirteen picks. Give the Cardinals in the Saints credit if 1:58:56.840 --> 1:58:58.720 this is for Lamar Jackson, the Cardinal, the Saints for 1:58:58.800 --> 1:59:01.440 not sitting on their hands like year sure, making the move, 1:59:01.720 --> 1:59:03.760 go up and get your next quarterbacks? You'd rather have 1:59:03.880 --> 1:59:06.640 Lamar Jackson or Pat Mahomes. I'm serious, I don't, I 1:59:06.720 --> 1:59:09.680 don't know. I think I had I had Jackson hire 1:59:09.720 --> 1:59:12.920 giving Lamar Jackson, Yeah, I had, I had Jackson higher. 1:59:13.000 --> 1:59:14.520 And I think Pat Mahomes is going to be a 1:59:14.560 --> 1:59:16.800 hell of a quarterback too. I kind of had Pat 1:59:16.880 --> 1:59:19.440 Mahomes in at Baker Mayfield spot in the second round 1:59:19.560 --> 1:59:22.280 right there. Yeah, you know, nothing, nothing is for certain 1:59:22.320 --> 1:59:25.200 in the NFL. But the Saints were a wonky Hail 1:59:25.280 --> 1:59:27.400 Mary away from the NFC title game with the roster 1:59:27.560 --> 1:59:30.360 that they have right now, and they need o Lione help. 1:59:30.400 --> 1:59:33.800 They could use an edge rusher. But if you have 1:59:33.880 --> 1:59:36.320 a chance to secure you know, it's you know, we're 1:59:36.320 --> 1:59:38.760 talking about the Pats trading up for Lamar Jackson. Sure, 1:59:38.880 --> 1:59:41.280 how about the Saints? You mean, like I said, Drew 1:59:41.360 --> 1:59:43.520 Brees is one of these days he's going to be done. 1:59:43.640 --> 1:59:45.440 And this gives you a guy who can step in 1:59:45.520 --> 1:59:47.000 and take care of it. Probably felt they had to 1:59:47.040 --> 1:59:49.760 get in front of Baltimore and the Chargers and had 1:59:49.800 --> 1:59:52.040 to find someone in New England for that. Man Oakland 1:59:52.080 --> 1:59:55.840 at fifteen, okay, was probably not going to trade back again. Yeah, 1:59:55.880 --> 1:59:57.160 and you're trying to get in front of the teams 1:59:57.200 --> 1:59:59.840 at sixteen and seventeen and beat New England to the punch. 2:00:00.000 --> 2:00:02.920 So New Orleans waited until the proper time to make 2:00:03.000 --> 2:00:05.640 this deal. We'll see how much, you know, inventory they 2:00:05.680 --> 2:00:08.280 had to give up to Green Bay. What's ironic is 2:00:08.400 --> 2:00:11.560 that the rumor was the Packers, we're going to try 2:00:11.600 --> 2:00:14.120 to trade up into the top ten and make a splash, right, 2:00:14.320 --> 2:00:17.760 you know new management Ted Thompson's not there anymore, and 2:00:17.960 --> 2:00:20.120 they do the exact opposite. But I have a feeling 2:00:20.240 --> 2:00:23.440 they are gonna get a nice little price tag. I 2:00:23.600 --> 2:00:26.080 believe Green Bay had more picks than anyone in this draft. 2:00:26.120 --> 2:00:28.120 So that's true. They could be a candidate to use 2:00:28.320 --> 2:00:30.680 at twenty seven, to use what they've got to move 2:00:30.760 --> 2:00:34.000 back up and get help, whether it be Harold Landry, 2:00:34.160 --> 2:00:36.920 Marcus Davenporter, one of the cornerbacks. But you start to 2:00:37.000 --> 2:00:39.360 look at the Derwin James issue too, So if we 2:00:39.920 --> 2:00:42.640 presume that Lamar Jackson gets to the Saints at fourteen, 2:00:42.680 --> 2:00:46.000 we are now at fifteen, which would give you pick 2:00:46.080 --> 2:00:48.120 eighty one range if you wanted to trade up and 2:00:48.200 --> 2:00:50.840 make a play. Yeah, yeah, yes, I'm honestly I'm bummed 2:00:50.920 --> 2:00:54.760 that the war room is cover this thing up and 2:00:54.840 --> 2:00:57.080 start making some calls. Yeah, it looks like to me 2:00:57.360 --> 2:01:00.480 that nobody is working a phone. Will McClay the right, 2:01:00.600 --> 2:01:03.640 I was gonna say, Obviously, Jerry and Stephen are gonna 2:01:03.640 --> 2:01:05.760 talk anytime the Cowboys make a phone call. But Will 2:01:05.840 --> 2:01:07.880 McClay is the guy that makes that call. Yeah, and 2:01:08.160 --> 2:01:11.720 I think there if that Stephen Jones, I mean, I 2:01:11.800 --> 2:01:14.600 think Will McClay will recommend. Here. Here's the thing. Let's 2:01:14.600 --> 2:01:17.000 see the twenty set in the fifth round, and there 2:01:17.040 --> 2:01:20.400 you go, there's a first round pick from next year. Yeah, 2:01:20.520 --> 2:01:24.440 so that is not that high to me, especially if 2:01:24.480 --> 2:01:27.520 I'm the Saints. I'm expecting to pick twenty fifth or later, 2:01:27.680 --> 2:01:29.400 you know what I mean. So that was a fifth 2:01:29.520 --> 2:01:31.720 round pick day. Did you see what else went this year? 2:01:31.920 --> 2:01:35.520 Twenty seven? A fifth this year and next year's first. Okay, 2:01:36.240 --> 2:01:38.760 so it was it was a fifth round pick that 2:01:38.880 --> 2:01:41.520 goes to Green Bay and next year's one. So the kicker, 2:01:41.640 --> 2:01:44.280 that whole thing is next year's one. Right, that's now 2:01:44.360 --> 2:01:47.160 the pat I mean, for all intents and purposes, you're 2:01:47.200 --> 2:01:49.240 just giving up next year's one. I'm okay a fifth 2:01:49.400 --> 2:01:52.720 fifth round pick, big deal, right, that's and like I said, 2:01:53.200 --> 2:01:55.880 the Saints should be expecting to pick twenty fifth or 2:01:55.960 --> 2:01:57.920 later and next year's draft, so it ain't like they're 2:01:58.120 --> 2:02:00.360 expecting to part ways with pick five and some of 2:02:00.400 --> 2:02:02.640 the things that you might have issues with Lamar Jackson. 2:02:02.800 --> 2:02:05.160 I think he's he's ready to play, but he could sit, 2:02:05.840 --> 2:02:08.959 learn the verbiage of the offense, get comfortable and confident 2:02:09.240 --> 2:02:12.000 within a system they're in New Orleans, and then step 2:02:12.120 --> 2:02:14.200 in and be ready to go. Maybe you play them 2:02:14.240 --> 2:02:17.040 at receiver for a year. No kidding, get out of here, 2:02:17.160 --> 2:02:20.360 bullion kidding. Yeah, it's really we're inside. We're inside of 2:02:20.440 --> 2:02:22.640 two minutes, you know for this and now the pick 2:02:23.160 --> 2:02:27.640 definitely is in. Uh they're talking about They even threw 2:02:27.720 --> 2:02:30.480 Marcus Davenport's name up there on the screen. I don't 2:02:30.520 --> 2:02:34.120 know what that would be all about for the Saints, 2:02:34.240 --> 2:02:37.880 but let's see, maybe they felt like though we could 2:02:38.280 --> 2:02:42.240 Davenport hell Oakland. No, I think that this has got 2:02:42.360 --> 2:02:44.360 to be for the quarterback. I mean, I mean you 2:02:44.560 --> 2:02:49.360 said it emphatically from twenty seven. Yeah, for next year's 2:02:49.400 --> 2:02:52.560 one fourteen, it's got to be for Jackson. Absolutely, it 2:02:52.600 --> 2:02:54.480 has to be for Jackson. It's the only thing it 2:02:54.560 --> 2:02:56.800 can be, right, It's got to be the only Okay, Well, 2:02:56.800 --> 2:03:00.160 the pick is in and we'll see in fact act 2:03:00.320 --> 2:03:01.880 what happened. Man, I mean, this has been kind of 2:03:01.920 --> 2:03:05.760 fun with this. We talked about this pre draft, we 2:03:05.880 --> 2:03:08.080 talked about this, We went on the air that this 2:03:08.360 --> 2:03:10.920 that that watched the team coming from the back. We 2:03:11.040 --> 2:03:13.760 talked about the Saints, and the Saints a player fell 2:03:13.920 --> 2:03:16.200 right to where they wanted him to be and they 2:03:16.280 --> 2:03:18.320 Dave gave up a fifth round pick in this draft 2:03:18.360 --> 2:03:20.280 and next year's one, and like you guys said, they're 2:03:20.320 --> 2:03:23.480 planning on being a playoff team, they should be. Yeah. Yeah, 2:03:23.640 --> 2:03:26.240 So let's see what we have here. The commissioner is 2:03:26.280 --> 2:03:35.000 making his way to the podium. He's in the crowd, 2:03:35.080 --> 2:03:37.640 hanging out with it. Like they they're drawing me off 2:03:37.720 --> 2:03:40.280 sides here. Yeah. Like I keep thinking Goodell's gonna come 2:03:40.320 --> 2:03:45.040 out of its seat. A Florida Lee tattoos. He has 2:03:45.080 --> 2:03:47.080 a Florida Lee tattooed on. So yeah, let's see the 2:03:47.080 --> 2:03:48.880 I mean, we're kind of waiting to get for the commissioner. 2:03:48.920 --> 2:03:50.880 They say the picks in. I thought they had that 2:03:51.000 --> 2:03:54.240 angle of the camera. They're drawing us. They all they 2:03:54.320 --> 2:03:56.880 cut like, what what are they doing? They're they're pointing 2:03:56.920 --> 2:03:59.160 to their section. You're right, you're right, they're pointing to 2:03:59.240 --> 2:04:01.920 the Saints sex. And so they're having a mini a 2:04:02.000 --> 2:04:04.520 mini Monti grow going on in the Saints section right 2:04:04.600 --> 2:04:08.520 now because they're about to select their quarterbacks. Everybody's very 2:04:08.520 --> 2:04:11.960 excited about that. We're still again waiting for the commissioner 2:04:12.480 --> 2:04:15.640 unless he got to detained. I got I got drawn 2:04:15.680 --> 2:04:18.960 off sides. Guys. I had that angle. They had that 2:04:19.080 --> 2:04:20.880 angle where I was kind of like, okay, well here 2:04:20.960 --> 2:04:23.400 comes to the commissioner. But JC get lost. It's a 2:04:23.480 --> 2:04:27.160 beautiful setup. They've got on the right, absolutely doing it. 2:04:27.240 --> 2:04:29.040 I bet you that Saint sections a lot of fun. 2:04:29.120 --> 2:04:31.000 Then there are a lot a lot of folks. So 2:04:31.400 --> 2:04:35.320 the transplants from my people, your people. David here he goes, 2:04:35.520 --> 2:05:06.440 all right, can't let's talk to the commissioner. Who are you? Wow, 2:05:06.800 --> 2:05:09.240 you didn't like what I was talking about Marcus Davenport, 2:05:09.320 --> 2:05:12.920 did you I said, we sounded smart five minutes ago. 2:05:13.000 --> 2:05:15.280 Now I feel stupid. How much say does Sean Payton 2:05:15.360 --> 2:05:17.400 have in that room? Did he just say, I love 2:05:17.440 --> 2:05:20.000 your may I may go somewhere else after this year, 2:05:20.440 --> 2:05:23.400 trading my net my pick next year on Earth. I 2:05:23.520 --> 2:05:26.040 think every block now everything reaction in the Cowboy War 2:05:26.160 --> 2:05:29.240 room is is nobody Flint. Stephen Jones has got a 2:05:29.360 --> 2:05:32.160 smile on his face. Chris Hall on the right, he's 2:05:32.200 --> 2:05:35.040 looking at Todd Williams like, what just happened? I bet 2:05:35.080 --> 2:05:36.880 you hey, we heard you know we I had a 2:05:36.920 --> 2:05:39.839 conversation with with somebody on the football side of the building. 2:05:40.760 --> 2:05:42.840 He was basically like, you know, you get you get 2:05:43.040 --> 2:05:46.200 one wow per first round. You know one thing that 2:05:46.280 --> 2:05:49.600 you really didn't see coming. Based on some of those reactions, 2:05:49.600 --> 2:05:51.200 I wonder if that was it right. I would count 2:05:51.240 --> 2:05:53.200 three of them so far into Night's draft. At least 2:05:53.280 --> 2:05:55.840 Denzel Ward you on where he did what durn Payne 2:05:55.880 --> 2:05:59.760 and then Marcus Davenport that just okay, if you think 2:05:59.800 --> 2:06:02.200 you're one piece away from a championship, maybe you do 2:06:02.320 --> 2:06:06.280 that well they do right, maybe, But Marcus Davenport. They 2:06:06.280 --> 2:06:08.480 would have been in the championship game if Marcus Williams 2:06:08.520 --> 2:06:10.480 didn't fold down. You're you're right. I mean so I 2:06:10.720 --> 2:06:12.360 think they see themselves as that. I don't know if 2:06:12.560 --> 2:06:14.680 Marcus Davenport could be the end up being the best 2:06:14.720 --> 2:06:17.320 pass rusher in this draft, this was Bradley Chubb, I 2:06:17.360 --> 2:06:21.280 would get it. But man, this is projectability right here exactly. Hey, 2:06:21.520 --> 2:06:24.520 maybe he's a freak, maybe he's freaking von Miller, but 2:06:24.760 --> 2:06:29.080 man's I was when you do that? I like, I mean, 2:06:29.200 --> 2:06:31.160 we were we all thought it was Lamar Jackson. You're 2:06:31.160 --> 2:06:34.360 over here smiling at me. I brought up Davidport. You 2:06:34.440 --> 2:06:36.280 guys kind of looked at me like I was weird. 2:06:36.400 --> 2:06:38.120 When was the last time somebody who made a jump 2:06:38.200 --> 2:06:41.600 like this for not a quarterback? But you saw him 2:06:41.720 --> 2:06:44.240 bringing show Davenport on the screen. No, no, no, I 2:06:44.360 --> 2:06:48.320 saw it was. To me, there was talk it was. 2:06:48.680 --> 2:06:50.960 It was kind of this discussion that was going on, 2:06:51.080 --> 2:06:53.360 and I'm thinking, well, that's why I brought up Davenport 2:06:53.840 --> 2:06:56.720 because project it was like projected players. Yeah, and it 2:06:56.800 --> 2:06:58.920 was Davidport and Jackson with the two guys, and that's 2:06:58.960 --> 2:07:01.240 why I brought it up. And then everybody kind of 2:07:01.320 --> 2:07:04.240 got on me about a little bit. So you're over here, 2:07:04.280 --> 2:07:06.840 like I knew it wasn't gonna be Lamar Jackson. I knew, Hey, 2:07:07.000 --> 2:07:08.800 I'll tell you what. I had him marked on my shell, 2:07:08.800 --> 2:07:10.840 on my sheet, Dave. I had him. I had to 2:07:11.080 --> 2:07:13.000 erase him on my board. I thought it was gonna 2:07:13.040 --> 2:07:16.840 be Lamar Jackson. I really did five picks away, and 2:07:17.000 --> 2:07:19.640 we have Edmonds on the board and we have Derwin 2:07:19.800 --> 2:07:22.080 James on that. Let's reset for you, Yeah, a little 2:07:22.080 --> 2:07:24.760 bit exactly. I mean, just do the last I'll do 2:07:24.840 --> 2:07:27.880 the last five picks. They just to just to reset 2:07:27.920 --> 2:07:30.800 here a little bit. Arizona took Josh Rosen at ten, 2:07:31.000 --> 2:07:35.040 the Miami Dolphins at eleven, took Mika Fitzpatrick. Vidavea goes 2:07:35.080 --> 2:07:38.120 to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at twelve, the Ron Payne 2:07:38.520 --> 2:07:41.960 to the Washington Redskins at thirteen, and then the Saints 2:07:42.720 --> 2:07:45.880 charge up the board. They come marching in and they 2:07:46.200 --> 2:07:48.320 trade with the Green Bay Packers. Grew up next year's 2:07:48.360 --> 2:07:52.080 one to take Marcus Davenport, the defensive end from the 2:07:52.160 --> 2:07:55.680 University of Texas at San Antonio. That leaves the Oakland 2:07:55.720 --> 2:07:59.839 Raiders on the clock. Then the Baltimore Ravens, Los Angeles Chargers, 2:08:00.120 --> 2:08:05.080 Seattle Seahawks, and your Dallas Cowboys. What's Gruden want he 2:08:05.360 --> 2:08:07.280 because it's I don't know if he wants to take 2:08:07.440 --> 2:08:10.800 ice cold Corona and a plate of Hooters wings because 2:08:10.880 --> 2:08:14.040 he got he got beat. He got beat on the 2:08:14.160 --> 2:08:16.920 trade going back, Yeah, he got beat. I mean he 2:08:16.960 --> 2:08:19.080 should have taken a two and a five, but he 2:08:19.160 --> 2:08:22.080 took a three to five. So obviously in the Raider tradition, 2:08:22.240 --> 2:08:24.760 he did not want to make a pick, and so 2:08:25.080 --> 2:08:29.640 we were see cornerback, yeah, and linebacker. They've talked about 2:08:29.720 --> 2:08:33.120 needing a playmaking linebacker. Obviously they picked up Novarro Bowman 2:08:33.200 --> 2:08:35.600 late in the year last year out of desperation, almost 2:08:35.640 --> 2:08:38.600 like this team here did um so you know that 2:08:38.640 --> 2:08:41.320 would have Tremaine Edmund written all over it. You know 2:08:41.400 --> 2:08:47.120 they took Obie last year, and that's that's a really 2:08:47.280 --> 2:08:49.920 I mean to Kean O'Neil. And again, I'm just I'm 2:08:49.960 --> 2:08:52.360 just trying to go on pre draft logic, which is 2:08:52.360 --> 2:08:55.920 obviously absurd because we just saw the Saints take Marcus Davenport. 2:08:56.040 --> 2:08:59.720 But Roquan Smith and Tremaine Edmonds are guys that have 2:08:59.760 --> 2:09:01.440 been to talk about a lot for the Raiders, So 2:09:01.680 --> 2:09:05.120 I mean that's certainly something I would keep an eye on. Yeah, well, 2:09:05.680 --> 2:09:08.680 how about this. Landry makes a lot of sense here. 2:09:09.200 --> 2:09:11.280 Landry does because again you put him on the other 2:09:11.360 --> 2:09:15.440 side with Khalil Mack mac rushes from that left side. Yeah. So, 2:09:15.680 --> 2:09:18.800 I mean the Raiders ranked twenty third in the league 2:09:18.840 --> 2:09:21.760 in sacks last year. Now, Derek Carter did get beat 2:09:21.840 --> 2:09:24.440 up a little bit last year as well, So you know, 2:09:24.600 --> 2:09:28.000 maybe all the other mcglinchey's already gone. To me, there's 2:09:28.000 --> 2:09:30.640 not really another offensive tackle that's close. I mean, Connor 2:09:30.720 --> 2:09:33.160 Williams would be next. Here's a pretty big fall off 2:09:33.280 --> 2:09:35.440 and offensive tackle. Yeah. I know, a lot of teams 2:09:35.480 --> 2:09:39.560 like Colton Miller doesn't seem brought him in somebody. Um 2:09:40.120 --> 2:09:43.880 so maybe that, but I think Edmonds makes the most sense. Yeah, well, 2:09:43.920 --> 2:09:47.200 we'll see. They say the pick is in and the 2:09:47.400 --> 2:09:50.560 Raiders are have This is a pick that they acquired 2:09:51.280 --> 2:09:55.400 they traded back with the Arizona Cardinals. Katie's mentioned of 2:09:55.480 --> 2:09:58.560 the guys that are potentially on the board, Landry from 2:09:58.600 --> 2:10:03.240 Boston College, Tremaine Edmonds from Virginia Tech. We have Evans 2:10:03.280 --> 2:10:05.960 from Alabama, on my board and in Hughes of the 2:10:06.040 --> 2:10:10.800 cornerback from Central Florida and James the safety from Florida State. 2:10:11.120 --> 2:10:13.880 The uh they they're trying to trick me with that 2:10:14.000 --> 2:10:17.960 shot again, showing like the commissioner he's gonna come out 2:10:18.000 --> 2:10:19.480 this time. I think the commission had to take a 2:10:19.520 --> 2:10:33.280 little break, and so now he's at the podium. Let's go, oh, okay, dude, 2:10:34.000 --> 2:10:37.680 they don't they don't have they don't have two functional tackles. 2:10:37.760 --> 2:10:39.920 This should surprise you in the sense that you don't 2:10:40.040 --> 2:10:42.520 like him as a player, right, But it shouldn't surprise 2:10:42.560 --> 2:10:44.800 you in the sense that, I mean the signs were there. 2:10:45.240 --> 2:10:48.200 Teams liked him. He's mocked in the first round often 2:10:48.360 --> 2:10:50.040 he's at the draft. I mean that tells you all 2:10:50.040 --> 2:10:53.080 you need to know. He's also the cause of Josh 2:10:53.160 --> 2:10:57.080 Rosen's concussions last year. I mean, Colton Millers, We've talked 2:10:57.080 --> 2:11:00.120 about him a bunch. The Cowboys brought him in on 2:11:00.200 --> 2:11:04.160 a thirty visit, and they also brought in Mike McGlinchey. 2:11:04.360 --> 2:11:07.680 And this is a it's a very athletic guy, but 2:11:07.840 --> 2:11:11.120 he's not very strong. Briggs written all over him. Funny 2:11:11.200 --> 2:11:12.920 funny in the way that works. You want to talk 2:11:12.960 --> 2:11:15.480 about that, No, I just I think the athletic offensive 2:11:15.520 --> 2:11:18.960 tackle that teams get enamored with. You just need to 2:11:19.000 --> 2:11:21.200 see more power. Yeah, I have to see more power 2:11:21.240 --> 2:11:23.680 in my offensive linemen. It's just funny to me. I mean, hey, 2:11:23.960 --> 2:11:26.840 we know, we know, we know a lot about this stuff. 2:11:26.920 --> 2:11:28.520 We spend a lot of time on it. I think 2:11:28.560 --> 2:11:30.480 we do a really good job. But you know, I 2:11:30.600 --> 2:11:34.680 can think back a month and be like, oh whoa hey, 2:11:34.960 --> 2:11:41.000 okay action. Another trade is Buffalo Buffalo. We talked about 2:11:41.000 --> 2:11:43.520 Buffalo coming back up to finish that thought. I just 2:11:43.760 --> 2:11:45.520 I think it's funny that we were talking about maybe 2:11:45.560 --> 2:11:48.840 the Cowboys control the top tackle in the draft at nineteen. Yeah, 2:11:49.040 --> 2:11:51.240 you had one go nine and one go fifteen. Not 2:11:51.360 --> 2:11:53.640 so much. Yeah, And that that goes back to my 2:11:53.760 --> 2:11:56.360 point from a million years ago. Need is such a 2:11:56.400 --> 2:11:58.280 big part of this thing, and teams don't like to 2:11:58.360 --> 2:12:00.840 admit that. But you're not going to sit around and 2:12:00.920 --> 2:12:04.560 wait to address tackle if you don't have two functioning tackles. 2:12:04.600 --> 2:12:07.400 To quote Kat Okay, the Buffalo Bills they made a 2:12:07.520 --> 2:12:11.000 trade to with Tampa and they picked up two Uh, 2:12:11.080 --> 2:12:13.840 they picked up two second round picks. They picked up 2:12:13.880 --> 2:12:17.480 pick fifty three. No, excuse me, this is this is 2:12:18.000 --> 2:12:20.320 the Bills game. Bills gave up those pick. Excuse me. Yeah, 2:12:20.360 --> 2:12:22.720 so this is the this is the Bills trying to 2:12:22.760 --> 2:12:25.720 come back up into the into the draft. So they 2:12:25.800 --> 2:12:27.840 gave up, they gave me two. But what else did 2:12:27.880 --> 2:12:32.280 they give up? Well, they let's see, let's Buffalo picked 2:12:32.320 --> 2:12:34.520 back up a seventh round pick. I saw that. So 2:12:35.240 --> 2:12:37.400 let's say I didn't see the full details on the trade, 2:12:37.440 --> 2:12:39.800 but let's see what in fact this will let will 2:12:39.800 --> 2:12:44.040 turn into. But Buffalo is now on the clock with 2:12:44.320 --> 2:12:46.840 the play a crazy game. What do you got? What 2:12:46.960 --> 2:12:49.280 if you took two quarterbacks? You took Josh Allen, what 2:12:49.360 --> 2:12:52.360 if you took Lamar Jackson two? We talked about Cleveland 2:12:52.440 --> 2:12:54.360 maybe doing this at one and four. There's no way 2:12:54.400 --> 2:12:57.160 they do. And that nuts, there's no way they two nuts. 2:12:57.240 --> 2:12:59.400 There's not enough practice time, there's not I mean that 2:12:59.600 --> 2:13:03.920 is that they're obviously Oh here's the trade. They get 2:13:03.920 --> 2:13:07.400 a fifth overall in this and they give up sixty five. 2:13:07.480 --> 2:13:10.160 So that's the Tyrod Taylor pick. That's the Tyrod Taylor pick. 2:13:10.240 --> 2:13:13.160 So that that pick now goes to that pick goes 2:13:13.240 --> 2:13:17.320 to Buffalo, So they pick back up one fifty four, right, 2:13:17.480 --> 2:13:20.760 So one fifty four it now belongs to Buffalo, and 2:13:20.960 --> 2:13:25.760 then the sixty five now belongs to Baltimore. So they flopped. 2:13:26.000 --> 2:13:28.840 They flopped it right there, and so we will see 2:13:28.880 --> 2:13:31.560 the picks in for the Bills. I like this. If 2:13:31.560 --> 2:13:33.600 you're gonna do it, you're not gonna waste any time, right. 2:13:33.680 --> 2:13:35.480 Who do you think though? I mean, I know Kat's 2:13:35.480 --> 2:13:37.600 trying to go. He's doing some now unders doing bits. 2:13:38.360 --> 2:13:40.680 I think Tremaine Edmonds makes sense. Would they go receiver 2:13:40.840 --> 2:13:42.960 there to help, you know, Josh Allen. I don't think 2:13:42.960 --> 2:13:45.920 he's gonna step in and play immediately. It could be wrong. Yeah, 2:13:46.240 --> 2:13:50.840 maybe wide receiver Calvin Ridley. Maybe too early. They're trying 2:13:50.880 --> 2:13:52.840 to get their ahead of their right, ahead of Dallas. 2:13:52.880 --> 2:13:55.520 I mean, people think this is this the best player 2:13:55.560 --> 2:13:58.600 available type, Like maybe Tremaine Edmonds just fell far enough 2:13:58.640 --> 2:14:01.000 that they're like, screw this, this might be the linebacker, 2:14:01.280 --> 2:14:03.960 this this, this might be right Edmunds, I'm sorry, Dave, 2:14:04.000 --> 2:14:07.680 You're absolutely right. This is They lost Brown in free agency. 2:14:07.720 --> 2:14:09.680 They didn't sign another starter or two of the two 2:14:09.720 --> 2:14:11.680 of the three part time starts from OH seven or 2:14:11.720 --> 2:14:14.840 aging players on expiring contracts. This could be, this could 2:14:14.880 --> 2:14:18.440 be this iss to this, let's go get this absolutely Okay, 2:14:18.720 --> 2:14:40.640 commissioners at the podium, there you go. That's a great 2:14:40.680 --> 2:14:43.800 pick right there. They saw. Yeah, he is a really 2:14:44.040 --> 2:14:46.920 good football player. It does look like there's any reaction 2:14:47.000 --> 2:14:49.120 in the Cowboys war room right now. That one was 2:14:49.240 --> 2:14:54.120 just a pretty a pretty steady pick right there. Everybody 2:14:54.240 --> 2:14:57.200 doing their jobs. Nobody got to fluster as all but 2:14:57.640 --> 2:15:02.200 Tremaine Edmonds is the is the pick? Dave? Talk about 2:15:02.280 --> 2:15:04.480 him a little bit? No, Well, I'm it's funny because 2:15:04.640 --> 2:15:07.120 we have not talked a ton about him because we 2:15:07.240 --> 2:15:09.800 wrote this off. Obviously not so much because he only 2:15:09.840 --> 2:15:11.720 went three spots ahead of the Cowboys. But I mean, 2:15:11.800 --> 2:15:15.440 this dude is a gigantic athletic freak. Like you said, 2:15:15.440 --> 2:15:18.440 I mean, he just looks like a prototypical, like old 2:15:18.480 --> 2:15:22.080 school middle linebacker. I think he's got the athleticism to 2:15:22.160 --> 2:15:25.000 do both. Though I always said, you know, I think 2:15:25.160 --> 2:15:29.480 Roquan Smith is more of your speed, undersized four three guy, Like, yeah, 2:15:29.680 --> 2:15:32.960 I imagine this guy playing inside in a three four Yeah, 2:15:33.240 --> 2:15:35.040 But I mean that said, I think he can do anything. 2:15:35.120 --> 2:15:38.080 I think that's why that's why you see Buffalo trade 2:15:38.160 --> 2:15:39.640 up as far as they did, the fact that a 2:15:39.720 --> 2:15:43.360 guy this talented is still available at sixteen. Yeah. The 2:15:43.480 --> 2:15:47.280 thing for me is, I again, it always goes back 2:15:47.320 --> 2:15:49.720 to the cowboys for me, and I'm I'm looking at 2:15:49.760 --> 2:15:52.440 this war room and for the million time in my life, 2:15:52.480 --> 2:15:55.560 I wonder what they're thinking because obviously all the guys 2:15:55.600 --> 2:15:58.560 we've targeted are there. From the all the guys, with 2:15:58.680 --> 2:16:01.760 the exception of Vita Vea, everybody we've talked about is there. Yeah, 2:16:01.840 --> 2:16:04.280 but throw Derwin jameson in the mix, Irwin James and 2:16:04.360 --> 2:16:06.880 now we're about we're about to get to the minefield. Well, 2:16:06.880 --> 2:16:09.600 we're about we've been. We've been in the minefield. The 2:16:09.680 --> 2:16:13.520 thing is is we're we're surviving the minefield and all honesty. 2:16:13.600 --> 2:16:16.040 I mean, if you wanted to trade up for this guy, 2:16:16.280 --> 2:16:18.240 not that I think they do based on the fact 2:16:18.320 --> 2:16:21.240 that nobody's on the phone, but if you wanted to, 2:16:21.520 --> 2:16:24.280 you could do it. You could do it right now. Yeah, 2:16:24.360 --> 2:16:29.680 they're the phones are not they're not ringing, which and 2:16:29.760 --> 2:16:32.120 nobody is picked up the phone. Stephen Jones would pick 2:16:32.200 --> 2:16:34.480 up that phone. You see a bank of the phones 2:16:34.520 --> 2:16:36.280 and from he would pick up that phone, and he's 2:16:36.320 --> 2:16:39.240 got all the teams on speed dial in front of him, 2:16:39.280 --> 2:16:40.720 so all he would have to do is match one 2:16:40.760 --> 2:16:43.200 of those buttons, and he's got a team. But they 2:16:43.280 --> 2:16:46.039 might sit here and just let this thing ride. But man, 2:16:46.360 --> 2:16:49.760 it's the minefield, Dane, welcome back. Kind of some crazy 2:16:49.800 --> 2:16:52.640 stuff going on. How about that Sage trade? Did you 2:16:53.320 --> 2:16:58.279 think Lamar Jackson were already talking about how the Saints abody? 2:16:58.400 --> 2:17:01.720 But I just bring up though, I brought up the 2:17:02.120 --> 2:17:05.000 our ut San Antonio guy. Yeah, Brian made sure to 2:17:05.160 --> 2:17:06.960 be He's like, well maybe, and then he moved on 2:17:07.080 --> 2:17:09.040 and act like he called it like he hats to 2:17:09.120 --> 2:17:13.560 be wrong. I'm just shocked, as you guys. Um, we 2:17:13.720 --> 2:17:16.240 know that the Saints wanted Pat Mahomes last year and 2:17:16.480 --> 2:17:18.760 they missed him by one pick. You gave up a 2:17:18.840 --> 2:17:21.600 future one to go up that high. It must be 2:17:21.680 --> 2:17:26.280 a quarterback marked him. Yeah, I'll marked him. I don't 2:17:26.320 --> 2:17:30.400 blame you. Uh that Okay, we're on Derwin watching out right. Yeah? Absolutely, okay. 2:17:30.560 --> 2:17:33.040 But well, and that goes back to my point, which is, 2:17:33.640 --> 2:17:36.920 at this point, maybe I mean a guy that well, 2:17:37.000 --> 2:17:41.320 oh oh, things are happening we got okay, Rod, Yeah, 2:17:41.400 --> 2:17:44.800 Rod Mirnoli is now in the war is Chris Christian Shard? 2:17:44.879 --> 2:17:49.039 Okay here we're talking. Well, I mean what else could 2:17:49.080 --> 2:17:51.720 that be? Okay, well, let's yeah, it's gotta be. Yeah, 2:17:51.840 --> 2:17:54.080 Christi Shard has made an appearance. He's gonna be the 2:17:54.200 --> 2:17:56.600 far left the camera. Rod MIRINOI of course everybody knows 2:17:56.680 --> 2:17:59.760 him and they're there, and uh, we're gonna get some 2:18:00.000 --> 2:18:02.160 I think Chris Rashard is probably gonna describe the player 2:18:02.160 --> 2:18:04.760 a little bit, talk about what he needs. Will McClay. 2:18:04.800 --> 2:18:07.600 Everybody's kind of locked in. They're they're getting some conversation 2:18:07.720 --> 2:18:11.880 going on here. We'll problem how much How confident are 2:18:11.959 --> 2:18:14.520 you that? I mean, that's two picks. That's two picks. 2:18:14.680 --> 2:18:18.160 Well if they know if they're again, Derwin James could 2:18:18.160 --> 2:18:20.120 be a guy and then Vanderish. I mean those are 2:18:20.160 --> 2:18:21.680 the two. I mean that to me is who they're. 2:18:21.959 --> 2:18:25.000 It's true. And Chris, to be fair, Chris Rochard is 2:18:25.160 --> 2:18:29.400 also he is the passing game. So the linebacker title 2:18:29.520 --> 2:18:32.560 right from Mattieberflus, So it makes sense that he would 2:18:32.560 --> 2:18:35.400 be there for a linebacker as well. Okay, with all 2:18:35.440 --> 2:18:37.840 the excitement we've got the Chargers or on the clock. 2:18:38.000 --> 2:18:40.120 Although I will throw this in there. If it was 2:18:40.200 --> 2:18:42.959 a linebacker, don't you think Ben Bloom would be somewhere 2:18:43.000 --> 2:18:46.280 in the room. Yeah, but yeah, but you're right, you're right. 2:18:46.360 --> 2:18:47.640 I don't I don't, Hey, I mean, I don't know. 2:18:47.720 --> 2:18:49.600 They pay the guy to coach the linebackers. Well, those 2:18:49.879 --> 2:18:51.920 those in the two those are the two highest ranking 2:18:52.000 --> 2:18:56.360 defensive coaches. Yeah. Yeah, So so here's a mars Shawn 2:18:56.440 --> 2:18:59.440 Lattimore's house, Derwin James still on the board. Well, I 2:18:59.480 --> 2:19:02.119 think the Cowboys are hopeful that that things just get 2:19:02.200 --> 2:19:05.360 real quiet with what's going on there. This is a 2:19:05.440 --> 2:19:07.800 minefield here because we could Yeah, this is Chargers need 2:19:07.879 --> 2:19:11.000 safety help. We talked about this a bunch. We know 2:19:11.040 --> 2:19:13.240 the Seahawk want to move back. Someone want to go 2:19:13.360 --> 2:19:15.760 up and get the get the safety. Yeah, well I 2:19:15.879 --> 2:19:19.240 think I think the fallback guy right now would beyond 2:19:19.480 --> 2:19:23.320 later Vanderesh, But later Vanderesh like if they don't get hit, 2:19:23.520 --> 2:19:27.320 sooner they get lat and later exactly exactly myself. Yeah, 2:19:27.440 --> 2:19:31.480 so we'll see the Chargers have maybe twenty left. Uh, 2:19:31.560 --> 2:19:37.600 and we've talked about them defensive line, linebacker, quarterback, and 2:19:38.040 --> 2:19:40.600 you know this is what's we talked about the quarterback here? 2:19:41.440 --> 2:19:43.520 Do they go? I mean, do they go? And you 2:19:43.600 --> 2:19:46.320 know this kN wizzen Hunt, who's the O C there, 2:19:46.360 --> 2:19:49.680 Anthony Lynn, the head coach, this kN wizzen Hunt find 2:19:49.760 --> 2:19:53.320 creative ways to to use a guy like Lamar Jackson. 2:19:53.959 --> 2:19:56.400 This is it just makes too much sense for them, 2:19:56.480 --> 2:19:59.800 doesn't that quarterback? Like I said, it makes sense because 2:19:59.800 --> 2:20:02.280 I think Lamar Jackson's a damn good quarterback. But it's 2:20:02.320 --> 2:20:05.520 so weird for me to think of Lamar Jackson playing 2:20:05.520 --> 2:20:08.240 there because I'm so used to Philip Rivers. Yeah, once 2:20:08.280 --> 2:20:11.480 again looking in the war room inside the Ford Center 2:20:11.560 --> 2:20:15.040 at the Star here in Frisco conversation going back and forth, 2:20:15.080 --> 2:20:19.640 Will McClay explaining something, Stephen Jones locked in, Jerry Jones listening. 2:20:19.720 --> 2:20:22.240 There's Jason Garrett as well. They got two defensive the 2:20:22.280 --> 2:20:26.680 highest ranking defensive coaches in the room right now to 2:20:27.560 --> 2:20:29.800 kind of discuss what is going on. Picks in for 2:20:29.879 --> 2:20:32.840 the Chargers. We should get that momentarily, Dane, who do 2:20:32.920 --> 2:20:34.760 you think do you have anybody in mind? I mean, 2:20:34.840 --> 2:20:37.600 you're they need safety help. I mean, Derwin James makes 2:20:37.640 --> 2:20:41.320 play of sense right here. Going to be a quarterback. Yeah. See, 2:20:41.360 --> 2:20:43.680 that's what I'm saying. The wild card to me right 2:20:43.760 --> 2:20:46.920 now is the quarterback. If he doesn't go here, where's 2:20:46.920 --> 2:20:50.840 he gonna go? Cincinnati? Maybe New eng Engle? Sir, how 2:20:50.879 --> 2:20:53.600 about the about there the patch Just sit there and 2:20:53.680 --> 2:20:56.480 take that guy? Yeah, my god, wouldn't that just piss 2:20:56.560 --> 2:20:59.560 you off? Oh? Sure? But it's like the stuff that happens, 2:20:59.800 --> 2:21:02.039 you know, it's those are the types of things that happened, 2:21:02.160 --> 2:21:03.720 you know, if you're from from what I mean, And 2:21:03.879 --> 2:21:05.920 and it's not okay, this pick is already in so 2:21:06.000 --> 2:21:08.400 really you're talking about Seattle. Yeah, and you're hopeful that 2:21:08.480 --> 2:21:11.760 Seattle doesn't back out of there. But like, yeah, it 2:21:11.840 --> 2:21:14.000 looks like the cowboys are content to sit and just 2:21:14.600 --> 2:21:17.600 make their pick at nineteen. They are. And here's the commissioner. 2:21:17.680 --> 2:21:37.560 Let's go there, we are crush the dreams. Yeah, there 2:21:37.640 --> 2:21:40.960 we go. Let's see no rule reaction in the war room. 2:21:41.080 --> 2:21:45.480 Yet they were that's a handing adam pacifica handing out 2:21:45.560 --> 2:21:49.119 new trade charts right there, so kind of to reflect 2:21:49.200 --> 2:21:52.400 some of the things that were going on. Uh, we'll 2:21:52.440 --> 2:21:56.440 see the end. The defensive coaches still hanging in there 2:21:56.640 --> 2:21:59.840 right now. In the war room. Uh in, But that 2:22:00.120 --> 2:22:02.680 that leads me to believe that, you know that Layton 2:22:02.760 --> 2:22:05.400 vander Esh could be the guy that could be the 2:22:05.480 --> 2:22:07.760 pick here. I've been We've been saying it for how long. 2:22:07.840 --> 2:22:10.200 Layton Vandress is the favorite to go ands. I mean, 2:22:10.280 --> 2:22:15.480 and who who's who's there that I mean, Okay, DJ 2:22:15.640 --> 2:22:18.400 Moore and Calvin Ridley, but it's Rod Marinelli and Chris 2:22:18.560 --> 2:22:21.640 Rochard and the room right now. So well, and you know, 2:22:21.800 --> 2:22:24.080 and let's let's be honest here, they did not they 2:22:24.120 --> 2:22:26.840 were they gambled here. They didn't try and pick up 2:22:26.879 --> 2:22:29.120 the phone. We didn't see them make any type of 2:22:29.680 --> 2:22:32.120 effort to go up if they thought that that that 2:22:32.320 --> 2:22:34.760 they were gonna lose Derwin James. They you know, I 2:22:34.800 --> 2:22:37.320 didn't see Stephen Jones or Will McClay on the phone 2:22:37.360 --> 2:22:41.280 at the time. Uh to uh to um. Maybe facilitate 2:22:41.400 --> 2:22:45.199 some type of trade, but Derwin James, a very talented 2:22:45.240 --> 2:22:48.560 safety from Florida State. Better better to have Los Angeles chargers, 2:22:48.720 --> 2:22:51.160 Better to have Derwin drafted out from in front of 2:22:51.200 --> 2:22:53.119 you than to have him be there and not take him, 2:22:53.240 --> 2:22:57.240 which is something that could happen to I mean, like 2:22:57.400 --> 2:23:00.120 I said, and I know drafts are unpredictable, but this 2:23:00.240 --> 2:23:03.640 team has followed a pretty strict blueprint over the last 2:23:03.680 --> 2:23:05.400 five or so years that they really like to be 2:23:05.520 --> 2:23:09.240 hands on with their first round picks. So I'd rather 2:23:09.959 --> 2:23:14.720 Oh that's an okay, an interesting point from Logan. Green 2:23:14.800 --> 2:23:18.280 Bay's going back up, and that that means the Okay, 2:23:18.280 --> 2:23:21.800 get will McClay on the phone. Here, Uh the packers 2:23:21.879 --> 2:23:25.280 are now they Seattle. Okay, here's green Bay. I bet 2:23:25.400 --> 2:23:28.480 this is Harold Landry. It probably is. This is I 2:23:28.560 --> 2:23:30.640 was about to say, week that makes sense. We forgot 2:23:30.680 --> 2:23:33.000 about Harold Landry and that I keep forgetting about them, 2:23:33.040 --> 2:23:35.800 which Chris Richard and Rod Marinelli are in the room, 2:23:35.840 --> 2:23:39.040 so like that that makes sense too. But I don't know. 2:23:39.160 --> 2:23:40.920 I just I have a feeling that it's our boy 2:23:41.080 --> 2:23:44.040 Lve and I have a feeling that this trade is 2:23:44.080 --> 2:23:48.160 for Harold Landry. Could this trade be for Vanderish If 2:23:48.200 --> 2:23:50.560 you look at I mean again, then playing a three 2:23:50.680 --> 2:23:53.160 four outside, you know need pass rushers. I need only 2:23:53.200 --> 2:23:56.640 not a pass rusher. But uh, I don't know. I 2:23:56.720 --> 2:23:58.360 mean it's got to be it. They got to feel 2:23:58.400 --> 2:24:00.720 like that Landry could play. Let me see Landry put 2:24:00.760 --> 2:24:02.560 his hand on the ground though. That's kind of his 2:24:02.760 --> 2:24:04.440 that's kind of thing. Did they you think they project 2:24:04.560 --> 2:24:07.600 him to play as a an outside linebacker and he's 2:24:07.640 --> 2:24:09.680 got the bend to do whatever the hell he wants. 2:24:09.800 --> 2:24:11.879 He's a pass rusher. I mean, yeah, put him in space, 2:24:11.920 --> 2:24:14.720 he'll be just fine. He's a good athlete. That makes 2:24:14.760 --> 2:24:16.880 a lot of sense. And what do we say, Seahawks, 2:24:16.879 --> 2:24:19.320 they're going to move back? Um, Yeah, and that's exactly 2:24:19.360 --> 2:24:21.360 what they did. Let's see what they gave it with 2:24:21.520 --> 2:24:24.480 the Let's see they got a third and a sixth 2:24:24.680 --> 2:24:27.280 from the game Bay. It looks like, yeah, so right 2:24:27.360 --> 2:24:29.959 now Seattle's still not picking on the second round. Yeah, 2:24:30.720 --> 2:24:33.000 so they got a third and a sixth on that trade, 2:24:33.320 --> 2:24:36.920 according to Dane Burglar, So this again, this puts the 2:24:37.520 --> 2:24:39.680 Packers are on the clock. We're kind of looking at 2:24:39.760 --> 2:24:45.240 some names. I'm thinking about team needs here, cornerback, inside linebacker, 2:24:45.560 --> 2:24:48.240 wide receiver. I mean, could this be it to jump 2:24:48.360 --> 2:24:50.080 up ahead of Dallas, thinking that Dallas is going to 2:24:50.160 --> 2:24:53.320 take a wide receiver? Maybe could they could this be 2:24:53.520 --> 2:24:55.920 obviously they're not watching the war room cam. Yeah that's 2:24:55.959 --> 2:24:58.200 what they think. Yeah, could this be for? Could this 2:24:58.320 --> 2:25:01.400 be for? You know, or Ridley or for more something 2:25:01.480 --> 2:25:03.280 like that, trying to get ahead of Dallas, knowing that 2:25:03.400 --> 2:25:07.840 Dallas needs a wide receiver. Packers at five minutes left 2:25:08.080 --> 2:25:11.760 on the clock. That's got defensive coaches still in handshakes 2:25:12.480 --> 2:25:17.520 all around. Let's see which I mean? You know, I maybe, 2:25:17.640 --> 2:25:20.440 but again using the same logic that we use for 2:25:20.520 --> 2:25:23.039 why the Cowboys weren't going to pick a receiver at nineteen, 2:25:23.080 --> 2:25:25.160 and I think with all these handshakes, I think it's 2:25:25.200 --> 2:25:26.960 fair to say that it's not going to be a 2:25:27.080 --> 2:25:30.440 receiver at nineteen. Yeah. Um, I don't know why the 2:25:30.520 --> 2:25:33.520 Packers would make this trade. Again, like you talk about 2:25:33.560 --> 2:25:35.920 how deep this receiver classes, you talk about the fact 2:25:35.959 --> 2:25:37.680 that both of the top two are still on the 2:25:37.760 --> 2:25:43.560 board right now. Um yeah. Like I said, hey, I've 2:25:43.560 --> 2:25:48.320 already been really wrong once already because because I thought 2:25:48.400 --> 2:25:50.520 Lamar Jackson was going to New Orleans. But I bet 2:25:50.600 --> 2:25:53.119 this as a defender the Packers are about to draft. Yeah, 2:25:53.240 --> 2:25:57.360 and again Landry makes sense. He might have won fourteen 2:25:57.520 --> 2:25:59.560 yeah when the Packers are there, Yeah, yeah, they might have. 2:25:59.600 --> 2:26:01.000 They might have lost out. We kind of had to 2:26:01.080 --> 2:26:03.800 think about with Davenport, you know, as being there, so 2:26:04.240 --> 2:26:07.880 uh uh you know, we'll see if maybe maybe the 2:26:07.959 --> 2:26:11.000 packers were looking at a corner here. Well, we'll see 2:26:11.040 --> 2:26:13.840 if h we'll see if if in fact that that 2:26:14.040 --> 2:26:17.640 is the case, maybe this is where Alexander Jr. Alexander 2:26:18.200 --> 2:26:22.720 Mike Hughes. Maybe. Yeah, so we'll we'll see, uh if 2:26:22.920 --> 2:26:26.040 in fact that we talk about Landry, but it might 2:26:26.120 --> 2:26:28.960 be Now okay, we'll talk about the size for for 2:26:29.240 --> 2:26:31.680 Alexander Dane. I mean that's kind of always been the 2:26:31.720 --> 2:26:34.120 packer you know, is a guy as he is. He 2:26:34.280 --> 2:26:37.040 you know, it's shorter corners right to tend to not 2:26:37.160 --> 2:26:40.360 go that direction. They have a premium on length um 2:26:40.760 --> 2:26:43.640 for the corner position. They want size uh to match up, 2:26:43.840 --> 2:26:47.240 and so Alexander's not a big guy. That's really the 2:26:47.320 --> 2:26:51.119 one knock against him durability uh and just his size. 2:26:51.160 --> 2:26:53.680 So it might be a little surprised. But again we 2:26:53.760 --> 2:26:56.040 have a new general manager, a new guy in Green 2:26:56.120 --> 2:26:58.680 Bay making the decisions. So I think there's were a 2:26:58.720 --> 2:27:01.640 little bit of uncharted arders here in terms of maybe 2:27:01.680 --> 2:27:05.800 what they're targeting at the cornerback position. Okay, the packers, 2:27:05.879 --> 2:27:09.199 they they pick up the they pick up the eighteenth 2:27:09.280 --> 2:27:12.240 overall pick from the Seahawks. They send Seattle a seventh 2:27:12.360 --> 2:27:15.320 round pick and uh so uh, I didn't kick up 2:27:15.360 --> 2:27:17.680 the rest of the trade there went pretty quick while 2:27:17.680 --> 2:27:19.640 I was looking out. So we'll get that one for 2:27:19.760 --> 2:27:22.959 you though. But the Packers pick is in this again 2:27:23.080 --> 2:27:26.640 is a pick that they got from from Seattle. The 2:27:26.760 --> 2:27:29.480 Cowboy war room looks very excited like they got their guy. 2:27:30.280 --> 2:27:33.520 Rod Marinelli, Chris Rochard in the room. We'll see if 2:27:33.560 --> 2:27:35.480 we think the Packers are probably going to take a 2:27:35.600 --> 2:27:39.480 corner here. But we've talked about Landry. They could use 2:27:39.520 --> 2:27:42.160 some rush help on the outside as an outside linebacker, 2:27:42.320 --> 2:27:46.119 but cornerback also makes a lot of sense. They want more, 2:27:46.240 --> 2:27:49.200 that they want more. They have bodies, but they you know, 2:27:49.280 --> 2:27:52.440 they still need to get more guys. Uh you know, Rollins, 2:27:53.280 --> 2:27:56.119 Goodson Randall had been disappointing. And they will they will 2:27:56.200 --> 2:27:58.440 draft a corner high and this is where in fact 2:27:58.520 --> 2:28:00.480 that they can can get that guy. So we will. 2:28:00.600 --> 2:28:04.280 We'll see when the commissioner walks to the podium, if 2:28:04.320 --> 2:28:07.120 you again look at the Cowboys or just reading the 2:28:07.480 --> 2:28:10.440 high fives all around, high fives all around. Interesting thought 2:28:10.520 --> 2:28:14.000 to me that Chris Roshard is the newest member of 2:28:14.040 --> 2:28:16.200 the coaching staff and he's the guy that they have 2:28:16.360 --> 2:28:19.800 in here with Rod Marinelli. Yeah, obviously they think the 2:28:19.840 --> 2:28:22.880 world of him. Former defensive coordinator. Just I don't know, 2:28:22.959 --> 2:28:25.600 an interesting thought. Well, here's the pick. The commissioner is 2:28:25.640 --> 2:28:54.519 walking to the podium. Well, there it is JayR. Alexander, Jr. Alexander. 2:28:55.200 --> 2:28:57.960 He is from Louisville. He's a corner. We talked about 2:28:58.040 --> 2:29:01.600 the length is something that might be a little bit 2:29:01.640 --> 2:29:05.800 of a question for the Packers, but uh not or 2:29:05.840 --> 2:29:07.520 for the draft, but not the case of the Packers. 2:29:07.600 --> 2:29:10.040 That's a team that used to have some size, speed 2:29:10.959 --> 2:29:13.720 length problems with the corners, right, and I always wanted 2:29:13.760 --> 2:29:16.280 the bigger corners and stuff like that. So he reminds 2:29:16.320 --> 2:29:19.040 me a lot of Joe Hayden. A little undersize, but 2:29:19.360 --> 2:29:22.400 he's a good athlete, plays the ball well. He's scrappy, 2:29:22.600 --> 2:29:24.360 which I feel like we use every time for under 2:29:24.440 --> 2:29:26.920 size corners, but he is. That's just that, that's who 2:29:27.000 --> 2:29:30.520 he is, that type of corner I like to fit. Again. 2:29:30.640 --> 2:29:33.720 A new a new general manager in Green Bay, So 2:29:33.959 --> 2:29:36.800 maybe a little bit of changing the way we think 2:29:37.120 --> 2:29:40.080 of how they think at the cornerback position. Yeah, and 2:29:40.560 --> 2:29:42.960 the Cowboys all right, are now on the clock, and 2:29:43.000 --> 2:29:46.960 that's presented by ublow Yow blow on the clock on 2:29:47.040 --> 2:29:50.240 the clock. There you go, good memory, Thank you. You 2:29:50.360 --> 2:29:52.800 got your Harold Landry's on the board. There's two. You 2:29:52.920 --> 2:29:56.120 got your picks and Harold Landry and Layton vander esh 2:29:56.160 --> 2:29:57.440 And honestly, if you told me at the start of 2:29:57.520 --> 2:29:59.080 night that Harold Landry would be there, I would be 2:29:59.240 --> 2:30:03.520 beside myself. But I can't shake this feeling like that's 2:30:03.560 --> 2:30:05.760 not going to be the pick. Yeah, based on what 2:30:05.959 --> 2:30:09.560 you told me earlier today, which is that he's kind 2:30:09.560 --> 2:30:12.160 of a fallback, I think I think he's I think 2:30:12.200 --> 2:30:15.320 there's two fallback guys or fallback position. I think Lander 2:30:15.440 --> 2:30:17.800 was in a fallback position. I think an offensive lineman 2:30:18.480 --> 2:30:20.440 was in a fallback position. Doesn't look like they're going 2:30:20.480 --> 2:30:22.880 to go in this direction. But there's no receiver off 2:30:22.920 --> 2:30:25.160 the board at this point. It's true. Yeah, Well, and 2:30:25.480 --> 2:30:28.560 I mean you're absolutely right, which I think is it's 2:30:28.600 --> 2:30:31.200 not super surprising, but it is interesting given how much 2:30:31.240 --> 2:30:34.240 we talked about receiver that neither one of them went. 2:30:34.400 --> 2:30:38.400 But I mean it's clearly a defender. Yeah, thank you 2:30:38.520 --> 2:30:42.360 Dez Bryant for that, for that thought, but I don't 2:30:42.400 --> 2:30:44.480 think that's going to be the case. No, not not 2:30:44.640 --> 2:30:48.119 with not with two defensive coaches in the room. Okay, 2:30:48.160 --> 2:30:51.360 the Cowboys, well they're all they're talking to their player 2:30:51.480 --> 2:30:56.240 right now, but there's uh, there's still six minutes on 2:30:56.320 --> 2:30:59.360 the clock. The camera now is flashed to the war room. 2:31:00.280 --> 2:31:04.280 Guys are all and ladies as well, very happy with 2:31:04.440 --> 2:31:08.040 the situation. We'll see. We think it's Leyden Vandersh, the 2:31:08.320 --> 2:31:13.040 linebacker from Boise States. David mentioned that though Harold Landry 2:31:13.120 --> 2:31:16.879 still is on the board, but we think it's going 2:31:16.959 --> 2:31:19.640 to be vander Ish, so we'll get ready for that. 2:31:20.280 --> 2:31:23.000 We've kind of talked all along Dane again, the strengths 2:31:23.320 --> 2:31:25.879 of Leyden Vanderish if in fact that he has the pick. 2:31:26.600 --> 2:31:30.199 You want players that match up in three areas, the tape, 2:31:30.520 --> 2:31:33.600 the traits, the production, and I think Layton Vandersch has 2:31:33.640 --> 2:31:36.200 those three. He doesn't have that extensive resume. He's not 2:31:36.240 --> 2:31:38.400 a four year starter. He's a one year guy. But 2:31:38.640 --> 2:31:40.920 he's an ascending player. I've said that a lot and 2:31:41.000 --> 2:31:43.000 I'm sticking with it. He is an ascending player who 2:31:43.080 --> 2:31:45.920 is getting better and better with the more reps. We've 2:31:45.959 --> 2:31:48.320 talked about a guy who has been deemed with the 2:31:48.400 --> 2:31:50.879 injury stuff. We don't believe that's an issue for this team. 2:31:52.080 --> 2:31:54.440 But he's a big, good sized athlete who can run 2:31:54.720 --> 2:31:58.200 and he's getting better with take on skills. He can cover. 2:31:58.400 --> 2:32:00.200 He's an every down player, and I think why the 2:32:00.240 --> 2:32:02.840 Cowboys value him so highly is because he can play 2:32:02.959 --> 2:32:05.080 the MIC. He can play the will, can play the sam, 2:32:05.360 --> 2:32:07.960 can be interchangeable. You don't need to take him off 2:32:08.000 --> 2:32:10.600 the field in any situation. So I think it's pretty 2:32:10.600 --> 2:32:12.800 pretty quickly he's going to see the field and again 2:32:12.879 --> 2:32:14.680 he's staying on the field, not a guy you need 2:32:14.760 --> 2:32:17.200 to take off in certain situations. Well, it looks like 2:32:17.360 --> 2:32:20.080 that on the stage at the AT and T Stadium 2:32:20.240 --> 2:32:25.040 that Drew Pearson and Michael Irvin are whooping up the 2:32:25.080 --> 2:32:27.440 crowd here, getting everybody really fired up for the pick. 2:32:27.600 --> 2:32:30.080 As again they got two of the three eighty eight 2:32:30.280 --> 2:32:33.680 Yeah exactly they got and the third one's tweeting right now, 2:32:33.760 --> 2:32:36.520 well he's not doing anything, Yeah, bring him in absolutely 2:32:36.560 --> 2:32:40.560 So Yeah, the Cowboys there there, Rod Mirnoi is on 2:32:40.680 --> 2:32:45.120 the phone with their selection. Again, we feel like that 2:32:45.160 --> 2:32:49.040 it's gonna be latent. Vanderesh U the linebacker from Boise State. 2:32:49.400 --> 2:32:54.400 They're passing the phone around to make sure that everybody 2:32:54.400 --> 2:32:57.120 gets a chance to say, hello, Uh, does this if 2:32:57.160 --> 2:32:59.680 it is? If it is Vanderesh, do we feel like 2:33:00.240 --> 2:33:05.520 up possibilities tomorrow wide receiver? I mean, and I mean, okay, 2:33:05.600 --> 2:33:08.240 we don't officially know. I'm I think it's a good 2:33:08.360 --> 2:33:13.240 educated guest that it's Layton vander esch Um. So it doesn't. Okay, 2:33:13.320 --> 2:33:15.160 we didn't think Harold Landry would be there. We didn't 2:33:15.160 --> 2:33:17.600 think Derwin James would fall that far. Right, Well, we 2:33:17.800 --> 2:33:20.840 had an idea we talked about. You're right, James, you 2:33:21.040 --> 2:33:23.520 said that, Yeah, correct, Yeah, I did not think Derwin 2:33:23.600 --> 2:33:27.440 James would fall that far. Yeah. Um, But it's the 2:33:27.520 --> 2:33:30.039 same result. It's I mean, it was a different it's 2:33:30.080 --> 2:33:32.200 always a different way of getting there than you think, 2:33:32.280 --> 2:33:33.760 but it's at the end of the day, it's the 2:33:33.800 --> 2:33:37.160 same result we expected, which is that linebacker is the 2:33:37.280 --> 2:33:39.800 most pressing need on this team. Yeah, they had a 2:33:39.879 --> 2:33:42.600 guy that they liked in this range, and you know, 2:33:42.959 --> 2:33:44.960 maybe they want to trade up for a receiver tomorrow. 2:33:45.000 --> 2:33:47.760 But either way, they felt better about addressing those other 2:33:47.840 --> 2:33:52.200 spots with their other picks than uh not dealing with linebacker. 2:33:52.240 --> 2:33:55.000 And like I said, I mean I would pick Harold 2:33:55.040 --> 2:33:58.840 Landry in this spot. But I understand the logic of 2:33:59.000 --> 2:34:02.120 getting this linebacker and just solving that problem. Again, this 2:34:02.280 --> 2:34:04.640 is a guy whose arrow is pointing upward in terms 2:34:04.680 --> 2:34:09.120 of his development, right, Um, so I get the logic. Yeah, 2:34:09.200 --> 2:34:11.680 his I think I think his best trade trade is 2:34:11.720 --> 2:34:15.680 his ability to play with range. I really do. Yeah, 2:34:15.720 --> 2:34:17.720 I think you know, there's no question this guy can 2:34:17.760 --> 2:34:19.880 get sideline to sideline, you know, and they and they 2:34:19.959 --> 2:34:21.840 have got to figure out some things that at the 2:34:21.920 --> 2:34:24.600 linebacker spot. And now will this allow him they play 2:34:24.680 --> 2:34:27.959 him at Mike linebacker? Will this allow them to move uh, 2:34:28.080 --> 2:34:31.240 you know, Jalen Smith to Sam linebacker? It could allow 2:34:31.280 --> 2:34:32.840 you to have a little bit of fun. Yeah, like 2:34:33.080 --> 2:34:35.160 Jaylen at Sam, you can play him as a situational 2:34:35.200 --> 2:34:38.720 pass rushing uh. And that's the big thing here is 2:34:39.040 --> 2:34:42.040 it's not that you don't have confidence that Jalen Smith 2:34:42.120 --> 2:34:44.880 can become a good player, but this allows you to 2:34:45.040 --> 2:34:48.000 help him. The old cliche Garrett loves to use is 2:34:48.600 --> 2:34:51.160 put your players in the best position to be successful. Well, 2:34:51.400 --> 2:34:54.000 it puts Jalen Smith in a great position. If you're 2:34:54.040 --> 2:34:55.840 not counting on him to play a one hundred percent 2:34:55.879 --> 2:34:57.920 of the snaps. Yeah, well we're still waiting for him. 2:34:57.920 --> 2:35:01.120 They're still on the clock by anybody, Hublow. That's the 2:35:01.640 --> 2:35:05.279 fun yeah, which shouts out you blow blow, Absolutely, they're 2:35:05.280 --> 2:35:07.440 getting their money sort of. Well, yeah, it's a fun 2:35:07.520 --> 2:35:09.600 thing about the draft. Like they made their they made 2:35:09.640 --> 2:35:13.000 their pick fifty what feels like fifteen minutes ago. Yeah, 2:35:13.440 --> 2:35:15.880 but they're still officially on the clock. So just the 2:35:15.959 --> 2:35:19.400 fun discrepancies. Yeah, well, we're just a good little way. 2:35:19.600 --> 2:35:23.520 Can we just Layton Vandersch is not Bobby Carpenter. No, okay, 2:35:24.080 --> 2:35:27.320 can we stop with this. It's just it's a terrible 2:35:27.520 --> 2:35:30.600 lazy comparison that we need to stop right now. Yeah. Um, 2:35:30.920 --> 2:35:33.680 whether he that's the pick here at nineteen or if 2:35:33.720 --> 2:35:36.720 he goes in three picks, uh, he is not Bobby Carpenter, 2:35:36.840 --> 2:35:40.280 So we can stop with that. Yeah, well that's uh yeah, 2:35:40.360 --> 2:35:42.680 I totally agree with you on that one, Dane. I 2:35:42.760 --> 2:35:45.160 mean I think that's a that's a really an unfortunate 2:35:45.280 --> 2:35:48.560 this This guy's is really a better player. I mean again, 2:35:48.680 --> 2:35:51.280 I you know, Bobby Carpenter had his problems with take 2:35:51.360 --> 2:35:53.360 on and stuff like that, but he didn't move and 2:35:53.480 --> 2:35:55.680 run and react like this guy. You know, if it's 2:35:55.760 --> 2:35:59.080 vander Esh, who's your starting Mike on September ninth at Carolina. 2:36:01.560 --> 2:36:03.680 I think it's I think it's gonna be Vandersch. I'm 2:36:03.720 --> 2:36:05.520 interested to see what they're doing. Okay, the picks in. 2:36:06.560 --> 2:36:09.480 Let's see if the commissioner nobody's using more of their clients. 2:36:10.120 --> 2:36:12.000 I'll tell you what, You'll make everybody wait. If they're 2:36:12.000 --> 2:36:14.280 gonna make you wait, you figure out times to you know, 2:36:14.400 --> 2:36:17.119 you make everybody else wait. But here it goes. We're 2:36:17.160 --> 2:36:20.040 getting that angle again. The commissioner will be heading to 2:36:20.160 --> 2:36:22.440 the podium. We think the pick is going to be 2:36:23.160 --> 2:36:26.240 Layton Vandersh. No, now we're talking more with some more 2:36:26.320 --> 2:36:30.080 commentary here about the about the potential pick um. We 2:36:30.200 --> 2:36:32.360 don't think it is any other. But I tweeted two 2:36:32.440 --> 2:36:35.680 days ago if the Cowboys had a chance of Laton Vandersh, 2:36:35.720 --> 2:36:38.120 they weren't gonna pass. Yeah. I don't think that, and 2:36:38.360 --> 2:36:40.760 I still feel that way. Here we are waiting the 2:36:40.840 --> 2:36:43.640 final seconds until the pick is announced Layton Vandrush is 2:36:43.680 --> 2:36:47.840 on the board. I get it, I understand it. I do. Yeah, 2:36:47.959 --> 2:36:49.760 see this was one. I mean, it just seemed like 2:36:49.840 --> 2:36:52.480 everything was lining up for this pick. Yeah, it just 2:36:52.560 --> 2:36:56.040 seemed like that. You know, you talk about the workout, 2:36:56.280 --> 2:37:01.160 the thirty visit the scouts like this one. This one 2:37:01.280 --> 2:37:03.920 was the one where the coaches and scouts all work together. Okay, 2:37:04.000 --> 2:37:07.920 we're going to the podium now, I think Commissioner is 2:37:08.200 --> 2:37:42.440 on his way, so let's fakecounts. I'm over him joining 2:37:44.640 --> 2:38:20.960 remember bingo, there he is, Layton vandersh He heads to 2:38:21.200 --> 2:38:24.760 the h he heads to the podium to kind of 2:38:25.080 --> 2:38:28.640 kind of ironic that um, you know, and it doesn't 2:38:28.680 --> 2:38:31.240 mean it wasn't true, but we I mean so wide open. 2:38:31.440 --> 2:38:33.200 We had no idea what was going to happen. But 2:38:33.320 --> 2:38:35.520 the Cowboys wind up with a guy that they targeted. 2:38:36.040 --> 2:38:37.760 God when when was the first time we said this 2:38:37.879 --> 2:38:41.080 dude's name Valentine's Day? Yeah, I mean it was a 2:38:41.160 --> 2:38:44.480 while ago. Yeah, we we've we've talked about him quite 2:38:44.520 --> 2:38:47.560 a bit. There's been a lot of back and forth. 2:38:47.640 --> 2:38:50.560 There was some I think that Dane myself, you know, 2:38:50.680 --> 2:38:53.119 watching the tape on him. Initially, Dane, I don't want 2:38:53.120 --> 2:38:56.040 to speak for you, but initially there was some questions 2:38:56.080 --> 2:38:58.360 about him, and you know, you really had to dig 2:38:58.480 --> 2:39:00.840 in dive in trying for aground a little bit more 2:39:00.879 --> 2:39:04.000 about him, you know, and it's later on played very well. 2:39:04.000 --> 2:39:06.520 There's some questions about this medical we we talked about 2:39:06.560 --> 2:39:10.039 that earlier. The Cowboys were not worried about that, Dane. 2:39:10.040 --> 2:39:11.960 You brought it up with its twenty five teams that 2:39:12.040 --> 2:39:15.280 had passed him, five that said he was off their board. 2:39:15.640 --> 2:39:18.480 So uh, you know that's ah, they made the pick, 2:39:18.840 --> 2:39:20.920 and uh, it looks like a lot of folks in Boise, 2:39:21.040 --> 2:39:24.040 Idaho are very happy about the Layton Vanderation. This is 2:39:24.080 --> 2:39:28.360 a team that drafted kids from boy Boyse, South, Layton, Orlando, 2:39:28.400 --> 2:39:31.520 Scandrid's gone, but Leyton vander esh now joins Tyrone Crawford 2:39:31.560 --> 2:39:33.920 and DeMarcus Lawrence and Boyse. How about a coach, a 2:39:34.000 --> 2:39:36.600 quarterbacks coach. Yeah, don't frek. Well, he didn't go to Boise, 2:39:36.760 --> 2:39:39.640 he went to Idaho. But yeah, oh oh oh, I'm 2:39:39.680 --> 2:39:42.000 so sorry. I'm thinking Scott Nahan. No, you're absolutely right, 2:39:42.080 --> 2:39:46.120 Kellen Moore one percent. Uh yeah, no, it's Boise, Boise 2:39:46.320 --> 2:39:48.840 South here in Texas. But like I said, like, hey, 2:39:49.320 --> 2:39:51.680 being one hundred percent honest, I liked Harold Landry a lot. 2:39:51.760 --> 2:39:53.600 I thought he'd fit a need. You can make an 2:39:53.680 --> 2:39:56.200 argument he's the best player on the board. But this 2:39:56.400 --> 2:39:59.000 pick makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons. Uh, 2:39:59.160 --> 2:40:02.360 it's it's a lend of quality. I mean, the dudes 2:40:02.360 --> 2:40:06.000 an athletic freak. Honestly, I mean him and Tremaine Edmonds 2:40:06.080 --> 2:40:08.720 might as well be interchangeable. I don't think I'm not 2:40:08.879 --> 2:40:11.760 supposing too much to say this guy doesn't get as 2:40:11.840 --> 2:40:15.440 much hype as Edmonds because he's white. I mean, he's 2:40:15.520 --> 2:40:19.320 got some freaky measurables. You could look at playing being 2:40:19.360 --> 2:40:21.520 a one year starter as a downside. You could look 2:40:21.560 --> 2:40:23.720 at as an upside that he's just scratching the surface 2:40:23.760 --> 2:40:26.320 of what he can be. You put that athleticism with 2:40:26.440 --> 2:40:29.160 more experience working with a guy like Sean Lee all 2:40:29.200 --> 2:40:31.680 the time. Yea. So on top of the fact that 2:40:31.760 --> 2:40:34.920 he's a fantastic athlete, he fills what I think we 2:40:34.959 --> 2:40:37.480 would all agree is the biggest need on this roster. So, 2:40:38.280 --> 2:40:41.240 like I said, I might I probably would have taken 2:40:41.280 --> 2:40:43.160 Harold Landry. But I don't have a single problem with 2:40:43.280 --> 2:40:45.879 this pick, and I don't think anybody should be surprised 2:40:46.080 --> 2:40:47.680 by it. And what has been the name that has 2:40:47.680 --> 2:40:51.680 been floating around as a comparison with this guy, Brian Urlacker, 2:40:51.800 --> 2:40:54.080 and when those two names are connected. First of all, 2:40:54.240 --> 2:40:56.600 a little unfair to Vanreesh to be paired with a 2:40:56.640 --> 2:40:59.840 Hall of famer. But if I thought he was Chad Greenway, 2:41:00.200 --> 2:41:02.840 my set not bad. Yeah. Yeah, and Chad Greenway had 2:41:02.959 --> 2:41:06.120 her first round pick, a great career, yeah in Minnesota. 2:41:06.840 --> 2:41:09.520 But again, you liked this player because he could play 2:41:09.760 --> 2:41:12.960 all three positions. He can stay on the field and coverage. 2:41:13.440 --> 2:41:15.199 He needs to get better with the take on skills, 2:41:15.360 --> 2:41:17.560 but with his length, with his power, you think he 2:41:17.640 --> 2:41:20.480 can do it. It's just it's more know how than ability. 2:41:20.600 --> 2:41:24.960 And so I'm okay with this pick. I think I 2:41:25.000 --> 2:41:27.440 would have went probably with a receiver. But I understand 2:41:27.480 --> 2:41:30.400 the thinking we've said all along, linebacker, wide receiver. They 2:41:30.800 --> 2:41:32.440 that's for the direction they probably want to go. They 2:41:32.480 --> 2:41:35.560 get their linebacker here, They're gonna most likely draft from 2:41:35.600 --> 2:41:39.160 wide receiver tomorrow. Yeah, I think so. In my mock draft, 2:41:39.240 --> 2:41:41.400 actually thought, you know, because Stephen Jones was talking about 2:41:41.400 --> 2:41:44.440 they were like two safeties. So we'll see if in 2:41:44.520 --> 2:41:48.320 facted and h tomorrow at pick fifty. Now the draft continues, 2:41:48.400 --> 2:41:50.800 I mean, we're not We're not done by any means 2:41:50.920 --> 2:41:52.840 here and no, not at all. And they and the 2:41:53.000 --> 2:41:55.879 Detroit Lions with the twentieth pick are on the clock 2:41:56.040 --> 2:41:58.920 right now. We kind of feel like though that the Lions, 2:41:59.200 --> 2:42:02.520 this could very well be uh, one of the offensive linemans. 2:42:02.560 --> 2:42:04.920 This is where Daniels We've talked about him, right, Dane 2:42:05.160 --> 2:42:09.560 as being a you know, yeah, offensive or defensive. Yeah, 2:42:09.640 --> 2:42:11.600 you know, could go Tavin Bryant here, they need that 2:42:11.720 --> 2:42:15.360 three technique upfield. Pennant there you go, could go with 2:42:15.520 --> 2:42:17.039 you on the other side of the ball on offense, 2:42:17.120 --> 2:42:21.280 could go with you know, the interior offensive line. Daniels. Uh, 2:42:21.640 --> 2:42:24.720 this is where you start talking about Hernandez win. Uh. 2:42:25.200 --> 2:42:27.160 A lot of teams like rag now he could be 2:42:27.240 --> 2:42:31.280 in that mix. So Detroit, Uh certainly, Uh, look a 2:42:31.360 --> 2:42:33.640 good chance they go into trenches. Yeah. Well, and then 2:42:33.680 --> 2:42:36.120 you look at their needs they've always so they've talked about. 2:42:36.600 --> 2:42:39.600 You're you're absolutely right, Dane with you know, a lot 2:42:39.680 --> 2:42:42.800 of the offensive line have been projected here, but defensive end, 2:42:43.040 --> 2:42:46.080 defensive tackle. Uh. You know, they lost a Helodi Nada 2:42:46.120 --> 2:42:48.760 in free agency and he was not idea. They didn't 2:42:48.840 --> 2:42:54.360 sign the steven Or Ricky Jane or Dial after visits. 2:42:54.400 --> 2:42:56.560 So you know, here's the team. They might need one 2:42:56.680 --> 2:43:00.040 maybe two big guys in the middle. But I I 2:43:00.200 --> 2:43:02.600 kind of feel like though that You're absolutely right. There's 2:43:02.640 --> 2:43:06.840 just too many quality offensive lineman, you know, with the guards, 2:43:06.959 --> 2:43:10.199 the three guards, and in the center with with Daniels 2:43:10.240 --> 2:43:14.039 and the potential of him playing center or playing guard 2:43:14.080 --> 2:43:16.000 as well. So I'll be a really interest. I know 2:43:16.080 --> 2:43:19.560 he's he's high on my on my board for a guy. 2:43:19.680 --> 2:43:22.040 So we'll see that they say the pick is in 2:43:23.080 --> 2:43:26.080 for the Detroit Lions, we will in fact see who 2:43:26.240 --> 2:43:28.800 it is. As you can see the Cowboy war room, 2:43:29.640 --> 2:43:33.560 guys have kind of dispersed. They're gonna figure some things out, 2:43:33.640 --> 2:43:35.400 and do you come back your board in front of you. 2:43:35.959 --> 2:43:39.040 I do, Who's who's the highest rated player available at 2:43:39.080 --> 2:43:42.199 this point, the highest rated player injury on my board 2:43:42.440 --> 2:43:45.560 would be if I did my top if I think 2:43:45.600 --> 2:43:49.760 it would be Daniels. If I looked at my over Landry, Yeah, 2:43:49.840 --> 2:43:52.240 over Landry, Okay, I mean I'm to get my if 2:43:52.280 --> 2:43:54.200 I got too many pieces of paper in front of me, Dane, 2:43:54.280 --> 2:43:57.760 that's my problem right now is what we got here. 2:43:57.840 --> 2:43:59.720 So yeah, I think if I looked at my top 2:43:59.800 --> 2:44:03.280 fifty that that he would be that land that Uh, 2:44:03.840 --> 2:44:06.880 let me see here real quick. Gosh, dang terrible radio 2:44:06.879 --> 2:44:11.640 I'm doing right now, dan No, I look, Landry, Ridley Daniels. 2:44:11.680 --> 2:44:14.119 Those are kind of my top three at this point. Yeah, 2:44:14.440 --> 2:44:18.000 I've got I've actually got I do well. I've got 2:44:18.560 --> 2:44:21.160 to be honest with I've got DJ Moore still available, 2:44:21.600 --> 2:44:24.160 I've got I do have Landry above Daniels. So I've 2:44:24.200 --> 2:44:28.400 got more Landry and Lamar Jackson, Ridley and Jackson. I 2:44:28.480 --> 2:44:30.440 have them all kind of in a little group there. Okay, 2:44:30.800 --> 2:44:35.600 so we'll see you mentioned Lamar Jackson. Where's he gonna fall? Yeah? 2:44:35.879 --> 2:44:37.640 I mean the next two picks that Detroit, we have 2:44:37.720 --> 2:44:39.760 Cincinnati and Baltimore. One of those two. How can New 2:44:39.800 --> 2:44:42.160 England not take him? You know what I'm saying? What 2:44:42.280 --> 2:44:44.200 about the next two picks though? I Could he get 2:44:44.200 --> 2:44:47.200 past Cincinnati and Baltimore? Though? Is that in Baltimore? I 2:44:47.240 --> 2:44:49.720 mean Baltimore? Might I think? I mean could Baltimore will 2:44:49.720 --> 2:44:53.360 take to the selections in right now, Commissioners at the podium, 2:44:53.440 --> 2:45:08.440 Let's go to him there. Yeah, whoa wow. With Daniels 2:45:08.560 --> 2:45:14.160 on the board, they took Frank Ragnew. That's that's a 2:45:14.240 --> 2:45:17.920 New England. That's that's a former GM that doesn't care. 2:45:18.240 --> 2:45:20.560 I mean he doesn't care what I think. No, of course, 2:45:20.840 --> 2:45:23.320 he does not care what I think at all. What's 2:45:23.360 --> 2:45:26.600 funny is I ran that name by someone on the 2:45:26.640 --> 2:45:29.120 football side of this building, and I was using it 2:45:29.200 --> 2:45:31.320 as like an example of what would be a surprising 2:45:31.360 --> 2:45:34.480 pick and he was like, oh no, that's that's not surprising. 2:45:34.680 --> 2:45:37.720 That's definitely gonna happen. And I was like, really, okay, 2:45:38.760 --> 2:45:42.640 So it just you know, the the the media and 2:45:42.760 --> 2:45:45.440 the league does not always line up, that's for sure. No. 2:45:45.720 --> 2:45:49.680 I I was not a big fan of Ragnew I game, 2:45:49.720 --> 2:45:53.280 but I think a third run grade I wasn't either myself. 2:45:53.440 --> 2:45:55.280 A matter of fact, I had him with the fourth Yeah, 2:45:55.600 --> 2:45:58.440 you know, so I get why teams like him with 2:45:58.600 --> 2:46:02.680 the versatility guard center. Sure, he's a tough guy, we 2:46:02.840 --> 2:46:05.640 know that. You almost like him more for his makeup, 2:46:05.760 --> 2:46:09.360 his leadership more than anything else. That the natural and 2:46:09.480 --> 2:46:12.800 tangibles that he brings. So those are off the charts. 2:46:12.840 --> 2:46:15.800 But just talking about the film, film was I didn't 2:46:15.800 --> 2:46:18.400 think the film was any good. I mean not for 2:46:18.480 --> 2:46:21.400 the twentieth overall pick, and you had a chance, you know, 2:46:21.480 --> 2:46:23.800 and you're you're telling me you had a chance to 2:46:24.000 --> 2:46:28.959 draft Daniels, who absolutely is one of the best center 2:46:29.040 --> 2:46:33.640 prospects I've seen Frank rag Now he's playing against Alabama 2:46:33.840 --> 2:46:36.560 playing guard. He's not playing very well. You know, he's 2:46:36.600 --> 2:46:39.560 playing center. He's a belly to belly blocker. He absorbs 2:46:39.600 --> 2:46:41.680 the defender. He kind of walls off in the play. 2:46:41.720 --> 2:46:43.600 He doesn't get any movement one on one. I didn't 2:46:43.600 --> 2:46:46.560 see the lack of strength really hurts him, gets thrown 2:46:46.600 --> 2:46:49.240 off blocks. He works hard to get a stalemate, he 2:46:49.360 --> 2:46:51.840 stays after his blocks, but he's just not successful all 2:46:51.879 --> 2:46:54.280 the time. And I thought he struggled to move his 2:46:54.320 --> 2:46:57.320 feet when he hooked up on blocks, jump on inside. 2:46:57.400 --> 2:46:59.959 Majority of his snaps for there's balance, but there's those 2:47:00.080 --> 2:47:02.440 times where he ends up on the ground. Right. I 2:47:02.600 --> 2:47:06.000 just didn't I push shove guy. I was not. Again, 2:47:06.080 --> 2:47:09.840 I'm watching games South Carolina, Auburn, Texas A and m Alabama. 2:47:10.360 --> 2:47:12.600 I just didn't see it with this guy. So this 2:47:12.800 --> 2:47:14.879 was this would be one of those picks where I went, WHOA, 2:47:15.480 --> 2:47:18.880 you know, what's up with that? Am I wrong about him? Dane? No? 2:47:19.040 --> 2:47:21.360 I agree with you, Okay. I think the way you 2:47:21.400 --> 2:47:25.600 summed him up is and you watch him and it's Yes, 2:47:25.720 --> 2:47:27.160 I think he did get the job done a lot 2:47:27.240 --> 2:47:29.200 of the times. But it wasn't pretty, you know. I 2:47:29.280 --> 2:47:32.840 mean he sloppy, technique was off, the balance was off. 2:47:33.320 --> 2:47:36.800 So again, the versatility, guard center, versatilities. Why you like him. 2:47:37.000 --> 2:47:40.879 The intangibles are off the charts, toughness, leadership, you love 2:47:41.000 --> 2:47:43.360 that about him. But again, the tape did not show 2:47:43.400 --> 2:47:45.520 a top twenty player and that's where he went here 2:47:45.760 --> 2:47:47.600 and the Lions took him right under the nose of 2:47:47.640 --> 2:47:49.960 the Bengals. Yeah, I mocked him to the Bengals of 2:47:50.000 --> 2:47:53.680 twenty one that wanted so at twenty one though, I 2:47:53.760 --> 2:47:55.320 mean Daniels was sitting there in the laugh. Is that 2:47:55.360 --> 2:47:57.520 the direction they go? Do they want to go? And 2:47:57.560 --> 2:48:01.039 Will Hernandez? I think they liked Will Laton Vandrush quite 2:48:01.080 --> 2:48:03.720 a bit. Sure, but he's gone obviously, Um so what 2:48:03.840 --> 2:48:10.039 did Bengals do? Now? Again? I come back to Lamar Jackson, Uh, Cincinnati, Baltimore, 2:48:10.320 --> 2:48:14.120 New England. The next three picks are all possibilities for 2:48:14.240 --> 2:48:16.959 Lamar Jackson. I think this. I think the Patriots, it's 2:48:16.959 --> 2:48:20.640 amazing they're sitting there and they and they love Lamar Jackson. 2:48:21.040 --> 2:48:23.520 They love I mean, I know for a fact that 2:48:23.600 --> 2:48:26.480 they love Lamar Jackson. And there and they and there 2:48:26.600 --> 2:48:28.600 was talk about them, oh maybe having to come up 2:48:28.600 --> 2:48:30.960 and get a guy. They're just sitting there buying their 2:48:31.040 --> 2:48:34.080 time right now, and he very well could fall right 2:48:34.320 --> 2:48:38.640 in their lap. So but David, he thought about rag 2:48:38.720 --> 2:48:42.039 now while we like I said, I mean, I think 2:48:42.080 --> 2:48:44.640 that's that's one that would throw you as throw me 2:48:44.840 --> 2:48:46.920 as a surprise. But I don't think it surprises people 2:48:46.920 --> 2:48:49.920 in the NFL community. And when you talk about him, 2:48:50.440 --> 2:48:52.720 it was going right in this range of either Detroit 2:48:52.840 --> 2:48:56.000 or Cincinnati. I heard him linked to both. Minnesota thirty 2:48:56.120 --> 2:48:58.080 was a team I think, Dane we talked about maybe 2:48:58.080 --> 2:48:59.840 a little bit, what about the fact that the war 2:49:00.080 --> 2:49:03.520 rooms once again gone dark. Yeah, the war room in 2:49:03.680 --> 2:49:06.720 Ford Center here at the start. Yeah, I don't know. 2:49:07.360 --> 2:49:10.680 Take me through that, Brian, How does that h What 2:49:10.840 --> 2:49:12.680 happens in the war room after you make your pick? 2:49:13.080 --> 2:49:15.800 I mean, guys will I mean guys will bathroom breaks 2:49:15.879 --> 2:49:18.440 and kind of like, you know, take a breath, and 2:49:18.840 --> 2:49:20.800 guys will keep working the phones and stuff like that. 2:49:21.600 --> 2:49:23.720 But they might be talking about who's left on the board, 2:49:24.320 --> 2:49:25.920 and they might and they might be looking at a 2:49:26.000 --> 2:49:29.040 situation maybe to get ready for tomorrow, and you throw 2:49:29.120 --> 2:49:32.360 some chum in the water to see if if in fact, 2:49:32.520 --> 2:49:34.640 you can get somebody to buy it on this. But 2:49:35.080 --> 2:49:39.760 it looks like that Cincinnati's pick is in again. I've 2:49:39.800 --> 2:49:42.160 always get you that the commissioners at the podium, let's 2:49:42.160 --> 2:49:45.280 go and get the Bengals pick at one twenty one 2:49:57.440 --> 2:50:01.240 Ohio State. So the big ten center comes off the board, 2:50:01.320 --> 2:50:03.280 maybe not the one we thought would go first. Wow, 2:50:03.480 --> 2:50:07.920 this this to me and I man and shouts out, 2:50:08.040 --> 2:50:10.920 shouts out my homie Catherine Terrell, who nailed that pick? 2:50:11.080 --> 2:50:13.640 Did she have that one? Yeah? I believe unless she 2:50:13.760 --> 2:50:16.000 changed her last minute? Did she change? Well? Back to 2:50:16.040 --> 2:50:19.600 back centers are off the board now. And you guys 2:50:19.640 --> 2:50:21.760 always laugh at me when I said Paul Brown, who 2:50:21.879 --> 2:50:25.440 the founder of the Bengals, was an Ohio State guy, 2:50:25.520 --> 2:50:27.840 you know, coached Ohio State. And then I say, oh, 2:50:27.840 --> 2:50:29.440 they're gonna take an Ohio State player, And you guys 2:50:29.480 --> 2:50:32.160 kind of laugh at me at that. But anyway, uh, 2:50:32.800 --> 2:50:39.080 Ohio teams love drafting. Cleveland doesn't until today. So yeah, really, 2:50:39.160 --> 2:50:41.040 I feel like I could have sworn they'd done it 2:50:41.120 --> 2:50:43.400 before fans get all over. The Browns were not drafting 2:50:43.440 --> 2:50:46.600 Ohio state players, but they did today obviously at number 2:50:46.600 --> 2:50:48.760 four with Denzel Awards. So I know if some fans 2:50:48.800 --> 2:50:52.279 were upset, it wasn't Bradley Chubb in Cleveland. But anymore, 2:50:52.360 --> 2:50:54.920 we're very happy that they're guy well Billy. Billy Price 2:50:55.000 --> 2:50:57.800 is coming off a peck injury, right, Dane, Yeah, slight 2:50:57.920 --> 2:51:01.600 Tarati is peck from the combine. I'm sitting there waiting 2:51:01.640 --> 2:51:03.959 for him to put up forty reps on the bench 2:51:04.120 --> 2:51:06.640 and he got three because he had a slight tear. 2:51:06.959 --> 2:51:09.800 But he sent out a letter to all every team saying, hey, 2:51:09.879 --> 2:51:12.240 I'm gonna be ready for training camp. It's not a 2:51:12.360 --> 2:51:15.520 huge deal. And so Bengals are buying what they're selling. 2:51:15.680 --> 2:51:17.320 I think they're gonna be ready. He's gonna be ready 2:51:17.360 --> 2:51:20.200 for training camp. Yeah. And so Billy Price is the 2:51:20.920 --> 2:51:24.240 is the and here's the Titans. The Titans now are 2:51:24.360 --> 2:51:26.360 on the clock. There was a trade. I'm just gonna 2:51:26.400 --> 2:51:29.320 get Harold Landry. I'm might keep saying Harold Landry. Yeah, 2:51:29.440 --> 2:51:31.240 getting up makes sense to get in front of New England, 2:51:31.320 --> 2:51:34.000 to get the pass rusher. I think that. And who's 2:51:34.000 --> 2:51:36.920 the gem of New England? John Robins, John Robinson, former 2:51:37.080 --> 2:51:42.240 New England staffer, who Baltimore went back twice? Yeah, so Baltimore. 2:51:42.600 --> 2:51:45.560 Baltimore is acting like very much Bill Walsh back in 2:51:45.640 --> 2:51:49.039 the nineteen eighties, kept moving back, moving back, moving back. 2:51:49.120 --> 2:51:52.200 But yeah, here's Titans and Dane. You feel like that 2:51:52.360 --> 2:51:56.040 this pick will be Harold Landry or I think it's 2:51:56.080 --> 2:51:59.760 Harold Landry here. Um, you know they the Titans need 2:52:00.080 --> 2:52:03.000 pass rush help, Derek Morgan getting up there in age, 2:52:03.080 --> 2:52:05.840 Brian Rackpost, same thing. They need a young guy to 2:52:05.920 --> 2:52:10.080 come in and groom, and that three four hybrid scheme 2:52:10.120 --> 2:52:12.760 they run in Tennessee. Harold Landry think could be a 2:52:12.800 --> 2:52:14.880 perfect fit. I'm not sure they expected him to be 2:52:14.920 --> 2:52:17.960 available at this point, but to move up two spots 2:52:18.560 --> 2:52:20.920 or three spots, it probably only took you know, maybe 2:52:21.040 --> 2:52:23.119 a third or a fourth to make that move, right. 2:52:23.800 --> 2:52:25.959 I like this. If that's who the pick is, I'm 2:52:26.000 --> 2:52:27.720 a big fan of the pick. I mean, if it's 2:52:27.800 --> 2:52:32.119 not Harold Landry, James Daniels as a possibility, they could 2:52:32.200 --> 2:52:34.840 use some interior offensive line help. They like some of 2:52:34.879 --> 2:52:38.520 the cornerbacks, but again Hubbard here. I mean, I know, 2:52:38.640 --> 2:52:40.880 I know, I know Landry's on the board, but that 2:52:41.480 --> 2:52:45.040 no way, what about no, No, I understand Landry's on board. 2:52:45.080 --> 2:52:47.120 I'm just throwing another name out there for a guy 2:52:47.200 --> 2:52:50.720 that's a rush in. I love Landry, don't get me wrong. 2:52:50.800 --> 2:52:53.600 I'm just saying I don't like to fit. I'd be surprised. 2:52:53.680 --> 2:52:57.320 But you know, Hubbard, I don't know how he fits 2:52:57.360 --> 2:52:59.879 their scheme because they play m as an outside linebacker, 2:53:00.480 --> 2:53:03.440 a guy that ran a four to nine. I mean, yeah, 2:53:03.959 --> 2:53:06.600 I don't know. I Harold, Landry makes too much sense here. 2:53:06.640 --> 2:53:09.360 Tennessee plays a three four. They play a hybrid three 2:53:09.360 --> 2:53:11.280 to four bass, but it's a hybrid down put him 2:53:11.320 --> 2:53:14.240 put put Harold. Know we all love Landry, don't. I 2:53:14.320 --> 2:53:17.120 mean we've we've thay, we've thrown names out there before. 2:53:17.440 --> 2:53:20.360 It's true, you know, true. So let's see what in fact. 2:53:20.520 --> 2:53:21.960 But I agree, I don't I don't think that they 2:53:22.040 --> 2:53:24.720 felt like that. Okay, could they go with a wide receiver? 2:53:25.320 --> 2:53:28.000 I mean, I know Corey Davis was a pick last year, 2:53:28.520 --> 2:53:32.120 a high pick last year. You trade up for Calvin Ridley, 2:53:32.440 --> 2:53:34.760 DJ Moore? Maybe you think in Dane, could they go 2:53:34.840 --> 2:53:37.240 wide receiver here. They went wide receiver in the top 2:53:37.320 --> 2:53:39.920 five last year. Yeah, um, and I know he did. 2:53:40.480 --> 2:53:43.120 Corey Davis didn't have a great rookie year, but be 2:53:43.240 --> 2:53:45.039 surprised to see them do it two years in a row. 2:53:45.480 --> 2:53:49.920 H Richard Matthews. Um, I don't know. I would be 2:53:50.000 --> 2:53:53.600 surprised by that, but you never know. It's possible. Another 2:53:53.840 --> 2:53:55.400 just be for Evans. Could they be trained for an 2:53:55.440 --> 2:53:58.119 inside linebacker that there's a good name that just saw. 2:53:58.640 --> 2:54:01.360 You know, Harold Danger makes the most sense. Rashaun Evans 2:54:01.480 --> 2:54:04.720 probably would be option B right in my mind. You 2:54:04.760 --> 2:54:06.200 know that makes to get in front of New England 2:54:06.200 --> 2:54:08.440 to get Rashaun Evans. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, 2:54:08.480 --> 2:54:10.520 so keep an eye on that one. We threw out 2:54:10.640 --> 2:54:14.240 names like I say, Landry as a rusher, We've thrown 2:54:14.280 --> 2:54:19.360 out uh we touch it all on the Steelers dealing 2:54:19.440 --> 2:54:22.440 Martavis Bryant. It dealt him to the Raiders for the 2:54:22.640 --> 2:54:26.160 seventy ninth pick. Raiders making moves. Yeah, Raiders is trying 2:54:26.200 --> 2:54:30.200 to John Gruden. He's he's he's gonna he's gonna just 2:54:30.320 --> 2:54:31.880 move around the board and try and do things. So 2:54:32.360 --> 2:54:35.360 this is that the seventy. Okay, here's here's what the Okay, 2:54:35.400 --> 2:54:38.720 so it's just a two fifteen. Are they actually fourth 2:54:38.800 --> 2:54:41.480 round pick? Right? Yeah? What numbers that fourth round pick 2:54:41.560 --> 2:54:44.560 for the Titans one twenty five? One twenty five, So 2:54:44.760 --> 2:54:49.960 one twenty five goes to uh the to the Ravens 2:54:50.600 --> 2:54:54.840 that now belongs to Baltimore. And so that made the trade, 2:54:54.879 --> 2:54:57.320 Like you say, picks in the Titans. The names that 2:54:57.400 --> 2:55:02.080 we've mentioned Evans of, we've mentioned Landry, and we've talked 2:55:02.120 --> 2:55:04.360 about a little bit I throughout Hubbard is just a 2:55:04.560 --> 2:55:08.400 throwout guy potentially, and then also we talked about maybe 2:55:08.400 --> 2:55:10.840 a wide receiver. There's both of them are available, of 2:55:11.040 --> 2:55:13.039 the two that we feel like our first round grades 2:55:13.440 --> 2:55:15.720 or that I feel like our first round grades with 2:55:15.879 --> 2:55:19.240 DJ Moore and Calvin Ridley. So let's see if the 2:55:19.320 --> 2:55:22.840 commissioner is making his way. It looks like he is. 2:55:22.920 --> 2:55:25.160 So let's go to podium for the Tennessee Titans pick. 2:55:25.520 --> 2:55:43.520 It'll be one twenty two. Hey, there you go, brought us. 2:55:43.560 --> 2:55:45.440 You mentioned that name. That makes a lot of sense. 2:55:45.520 --> 2:55:49.720 It's okay, So Rashaun Evans is the pick. I threw 2:55:49.720 --> 2:55:53.200 out a name earlier on that it was you guys 2:55:53.240 --> 2:55:55.640 looked at me when I said Hubbard, You guys, whoa No, 2:55:55.800 --> 2:55:59.520 Hubbard didn't make sense, but Evans made. You're a spot 2:55:59.560 --> 2:56:01.960 on because that's one of the needs of this team 2:56:02.000 --> 2:56:05.040 for the Titans inside linebacker. Sure, and they're trying to 2:56:05.040 --> 2:56:06.480 get They went in front of the Patriots and make 2:56:06.480 --> 2:56:08.280 sure they got their guy. I think I think Evans 2:56:08.320 --> 2:56:10.560 would have been the pick, yeah, the Patriots. So yeah, 2:56:10.600 --> 2:56:12.720 I just I feel smart because I mocked Evans to 2:56:12.840 --> 2:56:15.440 Dallas at nineteen. So I was only three off. That's fine, 2:56:15.600 --> 2:56:18.240 that's good, Nothing wrong with that. Why we still have 2:56:18.360 --> 2:56:21.080 no wide receiver off the board. Why which that doesn't 2:56:21.120 --> 2:56:24.000 surprise me. No, what does surprise me is that Harold 2:56:24.120 --> 2:56:27.280 Landry is just plummeting down this draft board. But what 2:56:27.360 --> 2:56:29.520 did I say? No, I think it's because he doesn't 2:56:29.520 --> 2:56:31.560 play the run very well. I mean, I get, but 2:56:31.720 --> 2:56:33.560 you're a liability if you can't play the run. Of 2:56:33.720 --> 2:56:36.120 course you are. You're a rookie. Rookie defensive ends don't 2:56:36.120 --> 2:56:38.320 play the run any better than rookie receivers run the 2:56:38.400 --> 2:56:40.600 full route tree. But it's not a case like Okay, 2:56:40.680 --> 2:56:44.080 Marcus Davenport. He has the size, strength, profile, where he's 2:56:44.080 --> 2:56:46.040 going to get better in that area, Harold Andry's not 2:56:46.040 --> 2:56:48.040 getting any bigger. You know, I don't think it's a 2:56:48.120 --> 2:56:50.840 no how thing. I think it's a just a size potential, 2:56:51.120 --> 2:56:55.640 strength potential type of deal. Where again, is he I 2:56:55.680 --> 2:56:58.000 guess you said, have to measure how much of a 2:56:58.360 --> 2:56:59.600 of a warrior is it going to be? How much 2:56:59.600 --> 2:57:01.080 of a concern is it gonna be? Is gonna cost 2:57:01.120 --> 2:57:03.720 you games? It gonna cost you first downs? I think 2:57:03.720 --> 2:57:05.360 a lot of teams are thinking that this makes a 2:57:05.440 --> 2:57:07.360 lot of sense hearing you say this. It makes a 2:57:07.400 --> 2:57:09.320 lot of sense for why the Cowboys didn't want him 2:57:09.320 --> 2:57:12.280 at nineteen, but again for a three or four team, 2:57:12.680 --> 2:57:14.680 I don't I don't know. Just just let let me 2:57:14.760 --> 2:57:17.040 have him, let me let me go, let me do that. 2:57:17.320 --> 2:57:19.920 Maybe the Patriots will feel that way. Well, this, this 2:57:20.160 --> 2:57:23.160 to me is now the I'm fascinated by this pick 2:57:23.280 --> 2:57:26.480 now at one twenty three. I'm fascinated by where the 2:57:26.600 --> 2:57:29.320 direction that the New England Patriots are gonna good they 2:57:29.360 --> 2:57:35.160 go Lamar Jackson they love him? And do they? I 2:57:35.320 --> 2:57:37.960 think they do? I really do. I mean, and just again, 2:57:38.040 --> 2:57:40.560 I've got some guys, I've got connections and then and 2:57:41.000 --> 2:57:43.720 it's like they talk about him and like, why would 2:57:43.760 --> 2:57:46.720 you not select him? I mean they're like why, you know, 2:57:46.720 --> 2:57:49.320 they're looking at the other quarterbacks, they see the first 2:57:49.400 --> 2:57:52.120 quarterback go, they say Baker Mayfield go, and they're like going, 2:57:52.400 --> 2:57:57.080 what what? Right? Okay? You know, and so this is 2:57:57.120 --> 2:57:59.600 a team that thinks different than everyone else. I could 2:57:59.640 --> 2:58:03.040 be dead wrong about this. It's amazing. You know, you 2:58:03.160 --> 2:58:05.480 have to make picks when you're in the Super Bowl everything, 2:58:05.520 --> 2:58:08.520 and you have a guy named this is a pick 2:58:08.600 --> 2:58:10.880 that they got from the Rams. Do you write for 2:58:10.959 --> 2:58:13.560 Brandon Cooks? Fascinating to think, you know, do you make 2:58:13.640 --> 2:58:15.880 this pick to secure your future? Like we thought what 2:58:16.000 --> 2:58:18.400 the Saints were doing or what they've done before with 2:58:18.520 --> 2:58:21.119 Jimmy Garoppolo, or if you could draft a guy who 2:58:21.160 --> 2:58:23.000 can help you right now? That's some say do you 2:58:23.320 --> 2:58:25.760 you let him sit? You think you could give him 2:58:25.800 --> 2:58:28.400 at thirty one? Do you think you can you can wait? 2:58:28.520 --> 2:58:31.760 Who knows you may wait? I mean it the same 2:58:31.879 --> 2:58:33.960 logic applies to twenty three as it did at one. 2:58:34.080 --> 2:58:36.760 Don't play around if if if you want a quarterback, 2:58:36.800 --> 2:58:38.800 you're taking it here. And they didn't have to. They 2:58:38.840 --> 2:58:41.000 didn't have to trade for this guy. No, but but 2:58:41.200 --> 2:58:45.039 remember the Titans traded ahead of the Patriots because they 2:58:45.080 --> 2:58:48.560 thought they were going Rashaun Evans. Yeah, so Titans didn't 2:58:48.560 --> 2:58:51.280 think they were gonna take Lamar Jackson. I don't know. 2:58:51.840 --> 2:58:54.760 I don't know if other teams or if the Patriots 2:58:54.800 --> 2:58:56.840 could be like, oh, we lost our lineback, we might 2:58:56.840 --> 2:58:58.520 as well take a quarterback. Yeah. I don't think they're 2:58:58.520 --> 2:59:01.080 thinking that. Yeah, it's I would not be surprised by 2:59:01.160 --> 2:59:04.920 Lamar Jackson here. But at the same time, could they 2:59:04.959 --> 2:59:07.360 take on these offensive lineman? Could they take could they 2:59:07.440 --> 2:59:14.279 take Daniels? When Hernando? Okay, well, how about Connor Williamson? 2:59:14.520 --> 2:59:16.680 I mean you had Colton Mill I believe mocked to 2:59:16.760 --> 2:59:19.080 these guys, didn't you, Right, But he's off the board obviously. 2:59:19.240 --> 2:59:22.680 Who's playing receiver for these dudes? Edelman's coming back from 2:59:22.760 --> 2:59:26.680 ACL and they got quarterrel Patterson. Yeah, how's that? I mean, 2:59:27.040 --> 2:59:29.119 get the best receiver in the draft? How about this? Well? 2:59:29.160 --> 2:59:31.400 How about this though? How about the relationship between Nick 2:59:31.480 --> 2:59:35.640 Saban and and who doesn't Nick Saban have a good 2:59:35.680 --> 2:59:38.440 relationship with him at Belichicker? No, I know, I mean 2:59:38.920 --> 2:59:44.119 he's gonna know all about about Ridley. So so okay, Well, 2:59:44.640 --> 2:59:46.480 you know we've got the patrel called. Hey, we've got 2:59:46.600 --> 2:59:50.560 some secret audio from the Layton vander Esch pick uh 2:59:50.760 --> 2:59:53.280 kick Garrison executive pruser's got that force kick. Go ahead 2:59:53.320 --> 2:59:56.560 with that, please, Layton Will m clay with the Cowboys. 2:59:56.600 --> 2:59:59.480 What's up, brother, got somebody wants to talk to you? 2:59:59.640 --> 3:00:03.119 Not all right? This is Jerry Jones with the Dallas Cowboys. 3:00:04.640 --> 3:00:08.560 Hey man, good to be talking to you again. And 3:00:09.320 --> 3:00:12.320 we're all we're all excited. Uh, we're getting ready to 3:00:12.320 --> 3:00:15.600 turn your card in. And so we were having a 3:00:15.640 --> 3:00:19.160 little fun here and well, I'll tell you what. You 3:00:19.920 --> 3:00:24.240 have had a real distinguished trail to get where you are. 3:00:24.440 --> 3:00:27.240 But we're sure excited about where you can go. It's 3:00:27.280 --> 3:00:30.120 your potential. It's got us so excited. I am so 3:00:30.440 --> 3:00:34.039 fun for this. Well, you you're now standing young man, 3:00:34.120 --> 3:00:36.080 and you tell your parents that they've done a great 3:00:36.160 --> 3:00:38.960 job with you. And when you get here, we gotta 3:00:40.160 --> 3:00:42.560 do do even more with you when we get you here. 3:00:42.640 --> 3:00:44.720 But we're proud to have you on the team. We're 3:00:44.760 --> 3:00:46.560 gonna be drafting here. We'll turn the card in just 3:00:46.680 --> 3:00:49.800 a minute. Here's coach Garry. Thank you, Thank you, so 3:00:49.920 --> 3:00:56.720 much Layton, Hey, coach, congratulations, man, thank you so much. Hey, well, 3:00:57.520 --> 3:01:01.080 we are really excited. I am to flely speak us 3:01:01.200 --> 3:01:03.800 right now. Well, it's a great day for you, but 3:01:03.879 --> 3:01:06.240 it's a great day for us too, And uh can't 3:01:06.280 --> 3:01:09.119 wait to get to work. You ready to go? I'm 3:01:09.200 --> 3:01:12.120 so ready? Let's go. Good. I talked to your coat 3:01:12.200 --> 3:01:14.840 for a long time today and uh he said everything 3:01:14.920 --> 3:01:18.120 we already knew, and uh, I can't wait to uh 3:01:18.440 --> 3:01:20.880 get you in this building and get you to work. 3:01:21.720 --> 3:01:24.040 I'm good, I'm excited. Okay, I'm gonna hand the phone 3:01:24.040 --> 3:01:28.959 to Rod Marinelli. Congratulations, thank you. Hey, sud Marinelli here, 3:01:30.040 --> 3:01:34.520 Hey you fired up? What I'm so excited? Yeah, worked out, 3:01:34.600 --> 3:01:36.800 no idea, man, work. So excited to have you and 3:01:37.080 --> 3:01:39.640 what you're bringing to us. And get yourself ready to go? 3:01:39.720 --> 3:01:42.920 All right, get ready to go. I'm so ready to go. 3:01:43.240 --> 3:01:47.120 All right, buddy? All right? That was the I always 3:01:47.200 --> 3:01:50.360 love secret audio with Rod Marinelli involved. Who stood, we 3:01:50.440 --> 3:01:53.000 gotta get stood, We gotta get Jason a new line. Yeah, 3:01:53.200 --> 3:01:55.560 great day for you, but a great day for us. Oh, 3:01:55.600 --> 3:01:59.680 I mean hey whatever, Yeah that kid that Layton Vanderish, 3:01:59.720 --> 3:02:01.760 doesn't he says that to everybody. Yeah, but I was 3:02:01.800 --> 3:02:04.160 like the hey, stud, you know, we'll get ready, let's go. 3:02:04.280 --> 3:02:07.680 You know that thing. I remember a time in the 3:02:07.800 --> 3:02:10.360 not too distant past where the you know, I was like, well, 3:02:10.400 --> 3:02:13.000 if we could just get Marinelli some talent to work 3:02:13.080 --> 3:02:15.520 with whate that's not holding water these days. Well, the 3:02:15.600 --> 3:02:19.080 picks in for the Patriots at one twenty three. They 3:02:19.160 --> 3:02:23.400 showed Lamar Jackson and he was not on a phone, so, oh, 3:02:23.560 --> 3:02:26.120 I thought they weren't doing that tip pick tip and stuff. 3:02:26.400 --> 3:02:29.320 Well I don't I can say. I mean, he maybe 3:02:29.400 --> 3:02:32.360 he knows something we don't know. But the pick is 3:02:32.440 --> 3:02:34.760 definitely in. And they just showed him in the in 3:02:34.800 --> 3:02:37.840 the green room. He was visiting with somebody next to him. 3:02:38.680 --> 3:02:41.160 We'll see if, in fact, Dane, you feel like this 3:02:42.320 --> 3:02:45.960 pick could be is it you know, Landry, Is that 3:02:46.080 --> 3:02:48.840 the route you would go? Or they think about one 3:02:48.879 --> 3:02:51.080 of these. We talked about the offensive linemen. Yeah, I 3:02:51.160 --> 3:02:53.560 think I think that you're talking about when Hernandez Daniels. 3:02:53.680 --> 3:02:57.120 I just think there's too much value. There's there's several 3:02:57.200 --> 3:02:59.680 good offensive linemen here. Yeah, we thought that's we're going 3:02:59.720 --> 3:03:01.680 to go. If Colton Miller was on the board, Yeah, 3:03:01.720 --> 3:03:04.000 he's got Connor Williams is on the board, Honor Williams, 3:03:04.000 --> 3:03:07.880 Isaiah Winn Hernandez James Daniels. Good chance, it's one of those. Yeah, 3:03:07.920 --> 3:03:10.240 I asked four. I think that I think the Patriots 3:03:10.280 --> 3:03:12.800 will find a way Connor Williams will We kind of 3:03:12.840 --> 3:03:15.000 think he's the young man from University of Texas. We 3:03:15.080 --> 3:03:16.840 kind of think of him as a as a guard, 3:03:16.959 --> 3:03:18.920 don't we. And the Saints work him out as a 3:03:18.959 --> 3:03:21.920 center and a guard. It just depends inside because of 3:03:22.000 --> 3:03:24.600 the wherever you want him about. Okay, well the New 3:03:24.640 --> 3:03:27.440 England Patriots there picks in. Here comes the commissioner to 3:03:27.520 --> 3:03:50.040 the podium. Yeah, there they go. They list him as that. 3:03:50.160 --> 3:03:54.920 That's interesting. Similar similar player, just into a versatile offensive lineman. Yeah, 3:03:54.959 --> 3:03:57.280 i'd say they He announced him as a tackle. He 3:03:57.360 --> 3:03:59.480 did announce him was a tackle. He announce he announces 3:03:59.480 --> 3:04:01.640 what they ran hi the card. Yeah. So the Patriots 3:04:01.680 --> 3:04:03.360 wrote him down as a tackle on the card. And 3:04:04.040 --> 3:04:07.200 he's short, but he has decent length. Yeah, and we 3:04:07.280 --> 3:04:09.680 saw him the last fifteen games. He started every game 3:04:09.720 --> 3:04:11.720 for Georgia this past year. I left tackle, so we've 3:04:11.720 --> 3:04:13.480 seen him do it. He just he has a guard 3:04:13.520 --> 3:04:16.800 body he looks like your guard, your prototypical guard. But 3:04:16.840 --> 3:04:18.880 it's gonna be interesting to see if they try him outside. 3:04:18.920 --> 3:04:22.320 It would make sense given their the Patriots needs and 3:04:22.800 --> 3:04:24.760 the fact that we've seen Isaiah Win do it so 3:04:25.959 --> 3:04:29.000 we could see him play a tackle and not guard. Well, 3:04:29.040 --> 3:04:33.160 there you go. Isaiah Winn is a New England Patriot. 3:04:33.240 --> 3:04:35.560 That was a pick that they got from the Los 3:04:35.640 --> 3:04:40.760 Angeles Rams in a trade. Uh. This this pick up here, 3:04:40.879 --> 3:04:42.560 this has a chance to be one of my favorite 3:04:42.600 --> 3:04:44.600 picks of the first round. If do you think this 3:04:44.760 --> 3:04:47.320 is gonna be the wide receiver? J J. Moore, I 3:04:47.400 --> 3:04:49.600 would love it for Carolina if it is. I don't 3:04:49.600 --> 3:04:51.560 know if it's gonna happen, but I just love that. 3:04:51.800 --> 3:04:54.400 I love that pick. Yeah, Harold Andrew still out there. 3:04:54.520 --> 3:04:59.320 Julius Peppers is fifty years old. He had eleven sacks 3:04:59.400 --> 3:05:03.800 last year. It's amazing. But I mean he's uh seriously though, 3:05:03.840 --> 3:05:06.880 he's thirty eight years old. I mean, you know, a 3:05:07.000 --> 3:05:09.320 defensive end here would make some sense. Uh, they need 3:05:09.400 --> 3:05:12.800 corner help. Uh so you know, Mike Hughes, Josh Jackson. 3:05:13.320 --> 3:05:17.840 But yeah, DJ Moore, Steve Smith, I hate the Steve 3:05:17.920 --> 3:05:21.680 Smith comparisons. Are so overblown. I cannot watch DJ Moore 3:05:21.760 --> 3:05:24.760 and not get those vibes from him. Well, number one receiver, 3:05:25.000 --> 3:05:28.680 even a two, even if it's Calvin Ridley. I just 3:05:28.959 --> 3:05:32.160 a receiver in that mold who can come in and 3:05:32.959 --> 3:05:35.360 and get the job done right away. Good route runner, 3:05:35.480 --> 3:05:39.520 good hands. Yeah and yeah, Carolina. For the last four 3:05:39.680 --> 3:05:42.240 years of they've just had these jump ball guys, whether 3:05:42.320 --> 3:05:46.080 it's Calvin Benjamin or Devin Funcius. Like, give Camp similar 3:05:46.120 --> 3:05:48.240 to Dak Prescott, Give Cam Newton a guy who can 3:05:48.400 --> 3:05:51.080 create space and get open. He's got that in Christian 3:05:51.160 --> 3:05:53.600 McCaffrey as a running back. But I would love to 3:05:53.640 --> 3:05:58.080 see a wide receiver who fits that mold. Yeah, Carolina Panthers, 3:05:58.160 --> 3:06:02.160 there's six minutes left on the time allotment. Uh the 3:06:02.280 --> 3:06:07.039 picks after Carolina at is? Uh? Baltimore will pick at 3:06:07.440 --> 3:06:11.400 twenty five? Can I after them? And then Atlanta and 3:06:11.680 --> 3:06:14.880 Green Bay will be the next three picks? Can I 3:06:14.959 --> 3:06:17.080 steer this back toward the Cowboys for a hot minute 3:06:17.080 --> 3:06:18.840 go ahead? Because I kind of I touched on that 3:06:19.000 --> 3:06:22.320 and I thought maybe we'd have h coach Marinelli in here. 3:06:22.400 --> 3:06:24.800 We might still, I mean, you're still nine or ten 3:06:24.879 --> 3:06:28.160 picks left in the round. But it's interesting to think, 3:06:28.200 --> 3:06:30.480 you know, the narrative for so long was you know, 3:06:30.720 --> 3:06:33.119 all the talent on this team is on the offense, right, 3:06:33.400 --> 3:06:36.440 It's not true anymore. I mean, whatever you think about 3:06:36.480 --> 3:06:38.480 the pick, the pick is made, don't worry about it. 3:06:39.000 --> 3:06:41.600 Uh Layton vander Esh I mean he's gonna be expected 3:06:41.640 --> 3:06:45.440 to produce nineteenth overall pick, Taco Charlton twenty eighth overall pick, 3:06:45.560 --> 3:06:49.360 gonna be expected to produce Jalen Smith thirty fourth, Cheetah 3:06:49.400 --> 3:06:54.359 bay Owoozier pick sixty, Jordan Lewis pick ninety something, Xavier 3:06:54.400 --> 3:06:57.200 Woods third round grade found in the sixth round. No 3:06:58.160 --> 3:07:00.760 Malik Collins going back three years in the third round. 3:07:00.800 --> 3:07:02.959 I mean, all of a sudden, obviously you got Sean Lee, 3:07:03.080 --> 3:07:06.440 but Tyrone Crawford is the old head on this defense now, 3:07:06.520 --> 3:07:11.080 which makes me feel old to say. And it's gonna 3:07:11.080 --> 3:07:14.320 be interesting because if the Cowboys hit on these picks 3:07:14.360 --> 3:07:16.960 the way that they've hit on their offensive picks, this 3:07:17.160 --> 3:07:20.520 is gonna be a pretty fearsome unit here in the 3:07:20.600 --> 3:07:24.600 next year or two. And if they didn't, then we're 3:07:24.600 --> 3:07:26.320 gonna have a lot of stuff to talk about on 3:07:26.440 --> 3:07:29.879 future draft shows about how these defensive picks have kind 3:07:29.920 --> 3:07:34.040 of sunk part of this team. So I mean, you 3:07:34.160 --> 3:07:35.960 gotta give a guy a benefit of the doubt, even 3:07:36.000 --> 3:07:39.720 I mean feels honestly here on this show and among 3:07:39.800 --> 3:07:42.160 people that listen to it, I feel like the vander 3:07:42.280 --> 3:07:44.920 Esh pick is similar to Taco, where it's kind of like, 3:07:45.480 --> 3:07:47.360 you know, maybe a lot of people aren't doing backflips 3:07:47.400 --> 3:07:49.480 about it, but I think it's a useful guy who 3:07:50.040 --> 3:07:53.080 has upside, who can grow into a better player. I'm 3:07:53.120 --> 3:07:55.560 certainly not closing the book on Taco Charlton. I thought 3:07:55.600 --> 3:07:57.879 he ended his rookie season on a very strong note, 3:07:59.160 --> 3:08:02.080 and so I think I'm thinking something similar about Layton Vanderesh. 3:08:02.120 --> 3:08:03.959 So I just it's gonna be fascinating to see how 3:08:04.040 --> 3:08:07.160 those picks bear out, because there's no denying they've spent 3:08:07.200 --> 3:08:10.080 the resources. There's I mean, you can't argue that there's 3:08:10.160 --> 3:08:11.840 a lot of talent on that defense. Now it's just 3:08:11.879 --> 3:08:14.160 a matter of getting him to produce. I understand Cowboys 3:08:14.200 --> 3:08:16.520 fans being surprised by Taco last year. They should not 3:08:16.600 --> 3:08:20.360 be surprised by vander now whatsoever. Anyone that's watched us her, 3:08:20.520 --> 3:08:23.240 you know, seeing our tweets, and we've talked about lat 3:08:24.520 --> 3:08:27.680 option a. That's how I've I've described him as you know, 3:08:27.920 --> 3:08:30.360 if he's there, that makes it makes too much sense. 3:08:30.400 --> 3:08:33.120 They're looking for that mic linebacker. You move jail in 3:08:33.200 --> 3:08:36.320 to Sam. Sean leeves you're weak and you feel good 3:08:36.320 --> 3:08:39.879 about your linebacker situation a lot more than you did yesterday. Right, 3:08:39.920 --> 3:08:42.040 I'm gonna ask you a question that you'll both hate, 3:08:42.400 --> 3:08:44.160 and Carolina's pick is in, so we'll get to that 3:08:44.200 --> 3:08:47.880 in a minute. But compare if you can, compare your 3:08:47.959 --> 3:08:51.200 expectations for what you think Layton Vanderesh can be in 3:08:51.280 --> 3:08:54.240 twenty eighteen as opposed to what you thought for Taco. 3:08:54.360 --> 3:08:56.680 And I think it's fair to say in retrospect and 3:08:57.200 --> 3:08:59.080 by like I said, not closing the book on Taco, 3:08:59.160 --> 3:09:01.000 but y'all's project of what he would be as a 3:09:01.080 --> 3:09:04.840 rookie was pretty damn accurate. Yeah, so I thought talk 3:09:04.879 --> 3:09:06.880 would be a role player. I don't think Laton Vanders 3:09:06.959 --> 3:09:09.039 is gonna be a role player. I think they're throwing 3:09:09.120 --> 3:09:11.280 Layton van Orsh out there with the intent of go 3:09:11.440 --> 3:09:14.600 get the ball. You Sean Lee and Jalen Smith and 3:09:15.160 --> 3:09:16.960 Damian Wilson, you guys, figure it out, go get the 3:09:17.000 --> 3:09:19.760 football now. Honestly, Yeah, what the alternative do they have? 3:09:20.000 --> 3:09:22.560 And that's a good point. Yeah, which is I wonder 3:09:22.959 --> 3:09:26.240 I will be fascinated to see because we'll know quickly. 3:09:26.400 --> 3:09:29.080 I mean, what if is this guy gonna play one 3:09:29.160 --> 3:09:31.320 hundred percent of the snaps as your mic linebacker and 3:09:31.400 --> 3:09:34.160 that gives you a versatile backup in Jalen Smith. I 3:09:34.240 --> 3:09:35.920 didn't see a guy you took off the field though. 3:09:36.000 --> 3:09:38.200 I mean seriously, I mean, I mean, he can carr. 3:09:38.280 --> 3:09:39.960 I think he's great. One, it was great. Strengths is 3:09:40.000 --> 3:09:42.120 his ability to play in the passing game, I really 3:09:42.160 --> 3:09:44.320 really do. I mean with the range and all that. 3:09:44.400 --> 3:09:47.360 I think that you know that when you played Nickel 3:09:47.400 --> 3:09:49.039 and all. If you want to put Jalen Smith's down, 3:09:49.360 --> 3:09:51.160 the Carolina Panthers pick is in. I'll get back to 3:09:51.200 --> 3:09:54.280 my thought. Caroline is in. We're pick one, twenty four 3:09:54.480 --> 3:10:04.960 pick pick d J. I hope, so yeah, yes, yes, yes, 3:10:05.920 --> 3:10:09.960 Oh we're gonna get to see DJ Moore Yeah, week one. Absolutely, 3:10:10.080 --> 3:10:12.680 I love that pick. So you cannot watch DJ more 3:10:12.720 --> 3:10:15.560 without seeing Steve Smith. In my opinion, I love it. Yeah, 3:10:15.720 --> 3:10:18.680 DJ Moore and and David this is a guy you've 3:10:18.720 --> 3:10:22.360 really been championing all I feel psych I feel guilty 3:10:22.400 --> 3:10:25.320 because I just stole him right out from under Dane's fingertips. 3:10:25.400 --> 3:10:27.760 Like Dane was like, look at this nice thing, and 3:10:27.840 --> 3:10:29.480 I was like, that's my thing now, all right, Well 3:10:29.560 --> 3:10:31.160 then you know I'll let you. I'm going to you 3:10:31.320 --> 3:10:33.640 right now to uh to give me a little insight 3:10:33.720 --> 3:10:35.560 on DJ Moore and what you like about him. The 3:10:36.160 --> 3:10:38.440 line that I came up with after enough time talking 3:10:38.440 --> 3:10:41.560 about him is I just feel like DJ Moore is 3:10:41.600 --> 3:10:43.600 a running back who can do all the stuff that 3:10:43.640 --> 3:10:46.320 are really good receiver can. Like once he gets the 3:10:46.360 --> 3:10:50.720 ball in his hands, he looks more like Kareem Hunt 3:10:50.800 --> 3:10:53.200 to me than a wide receiver. Like you know, he's 3:10:53.360 --> 3:10:56.240 you're not taking him down, you're not knocking him off balance, 3:10:56.360 --> 3:10:59.440 He's not falling backward, he's fighting forward. Every time he's 3:10:59.440 --> 3:11:03.560 slipping to ackles, He's getting around guys. And to add 3:11:03.640 --> 3:11:05.680 that to a guy, I mean he's got some work 3:11:05.680 --> 3:11:07.119 to do. Don't get me wrong. I don't think he's 3:11:07.440 --> 3:11:09.840 as polished as Calvin Ridley, but like he's got I 3:11:09.879 --> 3:11:11.800 think he's got a better route tree than your average 3:11:11.879 --> 3:11:14.400 rookie receiver He's not a guy that's just only gonna 3:11:14.440 --> 3:11:17.039 run bubble screens and go routes. And he's got really 3:11:17.080 --> 3:11:21.720 good hands. Yeah, how'd I do Dane spot? Yes, and 3:11:22.280 --> 3:11:24.720 pick some stuff up by osmosis. Sometimes you want a 3:11:24.720 --> 3:11:26.960 guy who's going to be able to get open before 3:11:27.000 --> 3:11:28.959 the catch, but also after the catch. Ye, And that's 3:11:28.959 --> 3:11:32.240 what he brings. You mentioned the running back mentality. That's 3:11:32.480 --> 3:11:35.720 that's what Dj Moore is. He's built. He's thick, not 3:11:35.840 --> 3:11:38.440 just upper body but lower body and his legs. Um. 3:11:38.959 --> 3:11:41.080 You really like his ability to create after the catch 3:11:41.160 --> 3:11:43.440 and be more than just a possession target. Yeah, I 3:11:43.879 --> 3:11:46.000 tell you what I was suppressed with the way that 3:11:46.120 --> 3:11:49.000 he was able to adjust to the football. Yeah. They 3:11:49.080 --> 3:11:51.240 throw some balls down the field, and his quarterback play 3:11:51.360 --> 3:11:53.600 wasn't very great, you know. I mean he had to 3:11:53.640 --> 3:11:55.880 play with a lot. That's just the nicest way I 3:11:56.040 --> 3:11:59.760 think I've heard situation. It's awful thing. An NFL MVP 3:12:00.040 --> 3:12:01.199 might be able to give him the ball a little 3:12:01.200 --> 3:12:03.560 bit better. Oh gosh, Yes, I think I think this 3:12:03.760 --> 3:12:06.879 kid right here. Yeah, Carolina is a nice job drafting 3:12:07.080 --> 3:12:10.840 And speak of the devil Steve Smith talking about the pick. Yeah, 3:12:11.000 --> 3:12:14.840 he loves him. He and I understand why. Yeah, you 3:12:14.920 --> 3:12:17.720 look in the mirror there he is good for good 3:12:17.800 --> 3:12:20.280 for the Carolina pants. That was a guy that you know, 3:12:20.560 --> 3:12:21.960 that's a guy that we kind of thought that the 3:12:22.000 --> 3:12:25.080 Cowboys would consider it nineteen and and you know, if 3:12:25.160 --> 3:12:27.959 Layton Vanderesh wasn't there, I'll be they would have maybe 3:12:28.040 --> 3:12:30.880 drafted him. I'll be the guy isn't falling guy for 3:12:31.000 --> 3:12:33.600 a second. For anybody that hates the Layton Vanderesh pick, 3:12:33.959 --> 3:12:36.160 you know, somebody somebody tweeted at me right after the 3:12:36.240 --> 3:12:38.320 pick that way, how are you just gonna leave Calvin 3:12:38.440 --> 3:12:41.800 Ridley on the board? And I just it's it's very similar. 3:12:41.879 --> 3:12:44.040 I think it's fitting to talk about Taco when you 3:12:44.080 --> 3:12:48.040 talk about Layton Vanderesh because I think if if linebacker 3:12:48.240 --> 3:12:50.240 was as deep as some of these other positions, I 3:12:50.280 --> 3:12:52.160 don't know that he would have been the pick. But 3:12:52.320 --> 3:12:54.840 you make this pick with the thought that you're gonna 3:12:54.840 --> 3:12:57.440 be able to find a really good receiver tomorrow, whether 3:12:57.600 --> 3:13:00.920 whether that's pick fifty or you right up from pick fifty, 3:13:01.000 --> 3:13:02.480 or even if you wait all the way to eighty one. 3:13:02.800 --> 3:13:04.640 I mean, we we kind of have an inkling that 3:13:04.720 --> 3:13:07.040 somebody's gonna fall to that range, don't you. And the 3:13:07.120 --> 3:13:09.600 mock draft I did today for Dallas Cowboys dot Com, 3:13:09.640 --> 3:13:12.400 I picked a wide receiver. I picked James Washington at nine, 3:13:12.560 --> 3:13:15.200 at which the third round pick. I would not be 3:13:15.360 --> 3:13:18.520 happy with James Washington at pick fifty, but at pick 3:13:18.560 --> 3:13:21.400 eighty one, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I just steel like that. 3:13:22.040 --> 3:13:24.840 Maybe the safety's gonna now gain. We're gonna think about 3:13:24.879 --> 3:13:28.480 Courtland's Sutton if he doesn't go, if he does one 3:13:28.520 --> 3:13:30.240 of these teams, I mean, if he doesn't get drafted 3:13:30.280 --> 3:13:33.400 in the next seven picks, I'm circling that name. Let's 3:13:33.400 --> 3:13:35.920 be honest here, there's an Alabama receiver sitting on the 3:13:35.959 --> 3:13:37.840 board right now at twenty five, and they're on the 3:13:37.920 --> 3:13:41.720 clock with the Baltimore Ravens, and Ozzie knew some loves 3:13:41.760 --> 3:13:45.080 his Alabama player. That sounds very Baltimore too. That sounds 3:13:45.200 --> 3:13:48.520 very Baltimore. And you have an Alabama receiver who's considered 3:13:48.560 --> 3:13:50.760 the best in the draft available to you at sixteen, 3:13:50.840 --> 3:13:54.000 and you trade down twice and still get him. Wallace, Macklin, 3:13:54.200 --> 3:13:57.120 and Campanero are no longer on the roster, only signed 3:13:57.240 --> 3:14:02.400 Crabtree and Brown. They also will added Will yeah, none 3:14:02.440 --> 3:14:03.880 of those guys. I don't know if they would go 3:14:03.920 --> 3:14:06.960 wide receiver though, just because you think that maybe they 3:14:07.240 --> 3:14:09.200 they were looking how about the tight end. You think 3:14:09.240 --> 3:14:10.840 that is where the first tight end goes. That's where 3:14:10.879 --> 3:14:13.920 I'm leaning Hayden Hurst, Dallas Garter one of those two, 3:14:14.080 --> 3:14:16.320 because they're still they stay in front of Jacksonville who 3:14:16.360 --> 3:14:21.040 we think could go um So, yeah about a runner 3:14:21.160 --> 3:14:25.400 quote from Steve Smith, Uh is this guys? Maybe? I 3:14:25.440 --> 3:14:27.880 mean there's somebody like that. A real quick quote from 3:14:27.879 --> 3:14:30.520 Steve Smith. They have never been able to replace me 3:14:31.000 --> 3:14:35.560 until today. That's a pretty good endorsement of djow love. 3:14:35.720 --> 3:14:38.440 I love Steve Smith just in general saying they can't 3:14:38.480 --> 3:14:43.040 replace me. It's awesome. He knows what he's talking about. Darius, guys, 3:14:43.520 --> 3:14:46.760 here would all Darius, guys, I'm gonna there's runners. There's 3:14:46.760 --> 3:14:48.800 clearly runners on the board. I was just thinking about 3:14:48.879 --> 3:14:53.240 guys that that the Ravens had looked at. Let's see 3:14:53.360 --> 3:14:55.800 for the right they brought in They brought in guys. 3:14:56.000 --> 3:14:58.160 That's why I bring it up. They brought in guys 3:14:58.200 --> 3:15:00.200 onto us. He's the only running back they had, is it. 3:15:00.600 --> 3:15:04.000 They visited all the tight ends, they went all three 3:15:04.040 --> 3:15:05.960 of the tight ends. They're tight end depth chart is 3:15:06.040 --> 3:15:09.680 not awe inspiring. Yeah, no, it's terrible, Max Williams Nick 3:15:09.760 --> 3:15:12.200 Boyle was trying to be nice. You don't need to 3:15:12.240 --> 3:15:15.840 be nice. Ter you got I mean Alex Collins caught 3:15:15.920 --> 3:15:18.760 on there after leaving Seattle. But again, I don't think 3:15:18.800 --> 3:15:20.840 that stops you from drafting or running back if that's 3:15:20.840 --> 3:15:24.400 what you want. Yeah, we could see it here. Um, 3:15:25.360 --> 3:15:28.360 I go back to the tight ends though, Yeah, I mean, 3:15:28.720 --> 3:15:32.480 Ridley's an outstanding value at this point. Um, which one 3:15:32.520 --> 3:15:34.160 of the tight ends would you take? You would take Hurst? 3:15:34.200 --> 3:15:36.800 Would you take God? God's my top tight end? First? 3:15:36.959 --> 3:15:39.959 Is mine? Right? So, but I'll see if Ozzie agrees 3:15:39.959 --> 3:15:41.760 with you and I or you or I. I think 3:15:41.800 --> 3:15:44.200 they're closely rated, you know, so, I don't think you 3:15:44.240 --> 3:15:46.080 can really go wrong if you need a tight end. 3:15:46.160 --> 3:15:48.640 Either one is going to help you. Both guys can 3:15:48.720 --> 3:15:50.360 line up in line. They're both gonna help you in 3:15:50.360 --> 3:15:56.080 the passing game. Lamar Jackson's getting Nancy, Yeah he does. 3:15:56.120 --> 3:15:59.120 He does. Lamar Jackson get drafted in it? What if again, 3:15:59.280 --> 3:16:01.760 talking about ball back and setting what they want? What 3:16:01.840 --> 3:16:04.040 if he just falls right into new England's lap at 3:16:04.080 --> 3:16:06.039 thirty That's what I was thinking, New England at thirty one. 3:16:06.120 --> 3:16:08.240 I kind of jumped up on the table for him 3:16:08.240 --> 3:16:10.520 at twenty three. Maybe New England knows exactly where this 3:16:10.600 --> 3:16:13.360 guy is gonna go, so you know it might be 3:16:13.360 --> 3:16:17.960 an opportunity there. But the Ravens are at Jacksonville, Lamar 3:16:18.080 --> 3:16:22.680 Jackson falls in Jacksonville's lap, picks in for Baltimore. They're 3:16:22.680 --> 3:16:26.480 at one twenty five right now, and so we will see. 3:16:26.520 --> 3:16:28.320 We've we've kind of kind of hit the gamut of 3:16:28.360 --> 3:16:30.000 a lot of things. We've got Ridley on the board. 3:16:30.480 --> 3:16:32.440 We've got tight ends on the board. We've got offensive 3:16:32.480 --> 3:16:35.080 linemen on the board for the team. I mean, if 3:16:35.080 --> 3:16:37.360 you look at two the center guard combination had lost 3:16:37.440 --> 3:16:41.240 their center last year, Ryan Jensen in free agency need 3:16:41.280 --> 3:16:44.400 an upgrade over Scura Hurst's stay to be the right tack. 3:16:44.440 --> 3:16:46.720 I mean, they this team might look at one of 3:16:46.800 --> 3:16:49.760 those Connor Williams and guys like that, guys I hate 3:16:49.760 --> 3:16:51.840 to butt in here. We've got Layton vander esh on 3:16:52.000 --> 3:16:55.400 the wall. Oh, very nice, very nice, Dallas cowboy. Layton 3:16:55.480 --> 3:16:57.720 you there, ye, hey man, what's going on? This is? 3:16:58.000 --> 3:17:00.400 You're on with David Hellman and Brian wrot Us from 3:17:00.440 --> 3:17:04.120 Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Congratulations man, thank you so much. 3:17:04.840 --> 3:17:07.760 All right, so, all right, obviously we know you know 3:17:07.879 --> 3:17:09.440 the Cowboys are the ones that call you when you 3:17:09.520 --> 3:17:12.760 get picked. But take me through the last I don't 3:17:12.800 --> 3:17:15.240 know twenty five minutes of your life and all the 3:17:15.440 --> 3:17:18.960 different people you've had to talk to and conversations that 3:17:19.040 --> 3:17:22.760 you've had. I have been on absolute cloud nine for 3:17:22.840 --> 3:17:26.000 the last twenty five minutes ever since they called me. Um. 3:17:26.720 --> 3:17:28.280 I was awaiting for them, and I had my fingers 3:17:28.360 --> 3:17:30.880 crossed on the wade hope that they were gonna make 3:17:30.959 --> 3:17:34.000 that call to me, and uh, they most definitely did. 3:17:34.120 --> 3:17:37.520 And uh, all the hard works paying off. Now, Okay, 3:17:37.640 --> 3:17:39.959 so you know it's our job to cover the draft. 3:17:40.080 --> 3:17:42.879 We've been we've been doing this show twice a week 3:17:42.959 --> 3:17:45.880 since January. We've been talking, we've been talking about you 3:17:46.000 --> 3:17:48.720 as a possibility here in Dallas since since at least 3:17:48.800 --> 3:17:52.600 Valentine's Day. So you know, if we knew that, I'm 3:17:52.640 --> 3:17:55.480 curious on your end, just talk to take us through 3:17:55.520 --> 3:17:58.199 that relationship that you've built with the Cowboys and maybe 3:17:58.280 --> 3:18:00.640 your your hopes and your ideas that this would be 3:18:00.680 --> 3:18:03.320 the spot for you. I don't, I honestly don't even 3:18:03.360 --> 3:18:05.600 know where to start because it's just been built so 3:18:05.760 --> 3:18:09.080 good already. I mean, I took a visit here and Uh, 3:18:09.720 --> 3:18:11.800 coach Bloom came out and worked me out at Boisi 3:18:11.879 --> 3:18:14.880 Stave threw me through a couple of drills for for linebackers, 3:18:14.959 --> 3:18:16.920 and I mean I came in on my visit here 3:18:16.959 --> 3:18:19.440 and met everybody in the organization, all the coaches and 3:18:19.680 --> 3:18:23.920 at GM and of course Jerry and Uh. That was 3:18:24.080 --> 3:18:25.920 one of the coolest experiences of my life. And it 3:18:26.000 --> 3:18:27.560 was actually kind of cool because it was the second 3:18:27.600 --> 3:18:31.040 time I had been to the Star on a on 3:18:31.160 --> 3:18:32.640 a kind of a tour. I guess you could say. 3:18:32.800 --> 3:18:35.879 My agent is a local here in Dallas, and Uh, 3:18:36.320 --> 3:18:37.960 when I signed with him, he took me out to 3:18:38.000 --> 3:18:41.360 dinner at the Star. So it's crazy. If I could 3:18:41.400 --> 3:18:43.240 tell you the whole story right now, if we had time, 3:18:43.360 --> 3:18:46.520 I would. How ironic and kind of coincidence it's all 3:18:46.600 --> 3:18:49.119 been Layton. When when you met with them, did they 3:18:49.240 --> 3:18:51.440 you know you play inside? Is that like as a 3:18:51.520 --> 3:18:54.600 mic linebacker? They talked about where they might start. You 3:18:54.879 --> 3:18:57.760 am I too premature on where they're going? To play. 3:18:57.920 --> 3:18:59.880 They give you an idea, like sitting down with you, 3:19:00.040 --> 3:19:02.120 watch the tape and say it, Hey, we kind of 3:19:02.200 --> 3:19:05.160 see you as a fit for this, or am I 3:19:05.240 --> 3:19:07.480 kind of jumping the gun here a little bit right now? 3:19:07.520 --> 3:19:09.480 It's kind of a toss up. I would say, they're 3:19:09.560 --> 3:19:11.600 just trying to see where I would fit best once 3:19:11.600 --> 3:19:13.160 I get run around in the field and ain't get 3:19:13.200 --> 3:19:16.160 in the playbook. So we'll see. We'll see how that 3:19:16.320 --> 3:19:18.640 goes and what happens there. But it should be should 3:19:18.640 --> 3:19:23.000 be a quick, quick diagnosis and we'll be good to go. Leiden. 3:19:23.320 --> 3:19:26.360 You know obvious, Like I said, the draft is it's 3:19:26.560 --> 3:19:28.680 it feels like a year long thing. At this point, 3:19:28.800 --> 3:19:32.800 people start dissecting players before bowl seasons even over. And 3:19:33.640 --> 3:19:35.720 one of the talking points about you is, you know, 3:19:36.080 --> 3:19:39.160 one year starter at Boise. Some people view that as 3:19:39.200 --> 3:19:42.320 a positive, you know, still a young player, still developing 3:19:42.400 --> 3:19:45.720 your game. Other people view it as as not a negative, 3:19:45.920 --> 3:19:47.800 just in the sense that you're not experienced. How do 3:19:47.879 --> 3:19:50.480 you see yourself as a player, how you're developing, and 3:19:51.000 --> 3:19:53.800 where you're going from here as you start your pro career. Well, 3:19:53.879 --> 3:19:56.280 I think a lot of people overlook my sophomore year 3:19:57.240 --> 3:19:59.160 I mean I was playing more than our starter was 3:19:59.280 --> 3:20:01.520 huge as a senior captain, he was just starting the games. 3:20:01.560 --> 3:20:04.400 I was playing more than he was, and I learned 3:20:04.400 --> 3:20:06.360 a lot from him, and at that point I was 3:20:06.440 --> 3:20:07.840 kind of taking over the reins and it was my 3:20:08.000 --> 3:20:10.680 time to shine. So a lot of people don't realize 3:20:10.760 --> 3:20:12.880 what happened my sophomore year and then my junior year, 3:20:12.879 --> 3:20:14.640 I got the chance to start, and then it was like, Okay, well, 3:20:14.680 --> 3:20:17.800 who's this kid now that he's starting. So, I mean, 3:20:17.840 --> 3:20:20.520 there's no reason for that. I've always been there. I've 3:20:20.520 --> 3:20:22.920 always been confident in myself and I'm always gonna put 3:20:23.000 --> 3:20:25.000 the work and get the job done. And I'm just 3:20:25.120 --> 3:20:27.560 ready to go now. I'm ready to go move on 3:20:27.720 --> 3:20:31.120 to my dreams. I've had my whole life, and one 3:20:31.160 --> 3:20:33.560 of them was to play here in Dallas. So we 3:20:33.680 --> 3:20:35.600 got a lot of We got a lot to accomplish 3:20:35.680 --> 3:20:37.040 here in the in the next couple of months and 3:20:37.080 --> 3:20:39.400 get ready for season, and we had to put ourselves 3:20:39.400 --> 3:20:41.320 in position to win a Super Bowl. Lay did you 3:20:41.400 --> 3:20:45.240 have any contact with Sean Lee or anybody else, any 3:20:45.280 --> 3:20:47.640 from anybody the defensive the veteran guy, I mean, Jason 3:20:47.680 --> 3:20:49.480 Wittn or anybody. Did you when you're here at the 3:20:49.560 --> 3:20:51.680 Star and we saw you in the cafeteria there? Did 3:20:51.720 --> 3:20:53.000 you Did you get to run into any of the 3:20:53.080 --> 3:20:56.800 players while you were here on the defensive side? Yep. Yeah. 3:20:56.840 --> 3:21:00.440 I actually got to talk to Sean Lee for at 3:21:00.520 --> 3:21:03.080 least probably twenty twenty five minutes in the weight room. 3:21:03.120 --> 3:21:04.560 He was just getting done working out, and then he 3:21:04.600 --> 3:21:06.640 got in and I got to talk to him for 3:21:06.680 --> 3:21:08.720 a little bit and it was awesome seeing the type 3:21:08.720 --> 3:21:12.000 of guy he is and actually seeing him faith to 3:21:12.080 --> 3:21:15.720 faith instead of just on TV and stuff. Um, it 3:21:15.879 --> 3:21:18.120 was surreal to me, honestly, because I'd always wanted to 3:21:18.800 --> 3:21:21.680 meet him personally, and uh, it was just it was 3:21:21.720 --> 3:21:23.880 just awesome getting that chance to mean talk with a 3:21:23.920 --> 3:21:28.720 guy like him with hike caliber. Late a unique circumstance 3:21:28.800 --> 3:21:31.160 for the Cowboys. I mean, you're you were drafted at 3:21:31.200 --> 3:21:33.640 the stadium twenty miles away. I mean, you're already in town. 3:21:33.800 --> 3:21:35.680 What's what's your night look like? They bring you up 3:21:35.720 --> 3:21:37.480 to the facility or where do you go from here? 3:21:38.000 --> 3:21:40.160 I don't know yet. They said they would let me know. 3:21:40.480 --> 3:21:42.560 All right, beautiful man, Hey, well, we're pumped to have 3:21:42.720 --> 3:21:45.080 you thanks for coming on with us, and yeah, welcome 3:21:45.080 --> 3:21:47.200 to Dallas, man, Thank you so much. All right, have 3:21:47.320 --> 3:21:52.160 a go on. Thank Layton Vanderish the Cowboys, uh first 3:21:52.280 --> 3:21:57.000 round linebacker selected with the nineteenth overall pick. Uh. The 3:21:57.640 --> 3:21:59.840 we talked about this, Dan Bruger will bring you back 3:21:59.840 --> 3:22:03.080 here and Hayden Hurst goes to the Baltimore Ravens. So 3:22:03.200 --> 3:22:04.920 we talked about a tight end there. It was a 3:22:05.000 --> 3:22:07.920 matter of which one if they if they didn't trade back, 3:22:07.959 --> 3:22:10.360 they might have taken him at sixteen. Yeah, so yeah, 3:22:10.360 --> 3:22:12.240 they really wanted up grade the tight end position. So 3:22:12.560 --> 3:22:14.400 not a surprise they did this. I didn't think it'd 3:22:14.400 --> 3:22:17.199 be receiver with all the additions they made in free agency. 3:22:17.360 --> 3:22:21.640 So I certainly understand the pick at Hurst at six 3:22:21.800 --> 3:22:23.560 or at trading back here and now we have Atlanta 3:22:23.640 --> 3:22:34.760 and Atlanta and the commissioners at the podium cool. I 3:22:34.959 --> 3:22:37.560 love it. That's a great fit for Ridley. My buddy 3:22:37.600 --> 3:22:40.240 Tommy Dimitrov, you get he's gonna stock up on all 3:22:40.280 --> 3:22:44.800 these Alabamic receivers. You got Julio Jones obviously, and then 3:22:44.879 --> 3:22:47.760 Mohammed Sanu. Ridley can play inside, in the slot, can 3:22:47.800 --> 3:22:50.200 play outside the z I love it. He's going to 3:22:50.280 --> 3:22:53.480 a really good situation there Atlanta. I love that fit. Yeah. 3:22:53.520 --> 3:22:56.160 And then and the quarterback there too, Matt Ryan, one 3:22:56.200 --> 3:22:58.520 of the one of the better ones in the league. 3:22:58.600 --> 3:23:01.840 So yeah, look at the Calvin Ridley very excited, probably 3:23:01.959 --> 3:23:06.400 very relieved at this situation. I know these guys. I mean, like, 3:23:06.680 --> 3:23:08.920 you gotta have an ego to be an elite football player. 3:23:09.000 --> 3:23:11.440 Jason Garrett says it on All or Nothing, the TV 3:23:11.480 --> 3:23:13.240 show's coming out. You gotta have an edge to make 3:23:13.280 --> 3:23:15.400 it in this league. So I get it, you want 3:23:15.400 --> 3:23:18.640 to go as high as humanly possible. But hell yes, 3:23:18.920 --> 3:23:21.640 if I'm Calvin Riddle, like I'm going to Atlanta where 3:23:21.720 --> 3:23:25.600 Julio's taking pressure off me, and DeVante Freeman and Tevin 3:23:25.640 --> 3:23:28.760 Coleman are there to make defenses, stay honest, and obviously 3:23:28.840 --> 3:23:31.720 an NFL MVP is throwing the ball. That's where I 3:23:31.800 --> 3:23:33.720 want to be. I don't want to be in Buffalo. 3:23:34.120 --> 3:23:36.320 I want to be there playing with a bunch of 3:23:36.400 --> 3:23:40.000 beasts on a super Bowl contending team. So that's the 3:23:40.040 --> 3:23:42.280 way it usually fall. Good football teams look at that, 3:23:42.360 --> 3:23:45.640 Those players look at that. Yeah, Matt Ryan, DeVante Freeman, 3:23:45.680 --> 3:23:48.360 Tevin Coleman, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, Cowboys get to play 3:23:48.360 --> 3:23:50.119 against that group again and you can win some ball 3:23:50.200 --> 3:23:54.039 games with that. Tommy Demittrof though, nice job picking a player. 3:23:54.120 --> 3:23:56.480 It fell right to him. Sometimes you stay very patient 3:23:56.520 --> 3:23:59.039 it sits right in your lap. Dan kind, let's reset 3:23:59.080 --> 3:24:01.760 a little bit here. I'll go back a few picks. 3:24:02.920 --> 3:24:07.600 Tennessee at twenty two took Rashaun Evans, a linebacker from Alabama. 3:24:07.840 --> 3:24:10.640 The New England Patriots took Isaiah Win. They list him 3:24:10.640 --> 3:24:14.039 as a tackle from University of Georgia. Carolina took Dj Moore. 3:24:14.080 --> 3:24:17.520 We all love that pick from Maryland. And then Tennis 3:24:17.720 --> 3:24:20.280 at Baltimore took Hayden Hurst to tight end from South 3:24:20.360 --> 3:24:24.480 Carolina at twenty five. And now at the Atlanta Falcons 3:24:24.520 --> 3:24:27.640 at one twenty six, take Calvin Ridley, the wide receiver 3:24:27.760 --> 3:24:30.960 from Alabama. Dan, can you reset for me who you've 3:24:31.000 --> 3:24:33.360 got left as far as some of the guys, so 3:24:33.480 --> 3:24:36.560 maybe some of your top fifty Harold got Harold Landry 3:24:36.600 --> 3:24:38.680 still out there? Yeah, Harold Landry would be my top 3:24:38.800 --> 3:24:41.960 rated players. Well, Nils, we don't Maurice Hurst, we don't 3:24:41.959 --> 3:24:44.320 know what's going on with the medicals. He's he's probably 3:24:44.360 --> 3:24:47.439 gonna fall at least in day two. Yeah, Will Hernandez 3:24:47.520 --> 3:24:52.640 is out there, Darius Guice, Mike Hughes, Uh, Daven Bryan. Yeah, 3:24:52.760 --> 3:24:54.920 we're kind of surprised. David Bryan still out there. So 3:24:55.400 --> 3:24:58.480 some some good names and Seattle's coming up here. U. 3:25:00.760 --> 3:25:02.480 What did I say the shock? Why don't was it 3:25:02.560 --> 3:25:04.160 on their No, we were upstairs when I said it, 3:25:04.520 --> 3:25:07.280 the shock of the first round. It'd be a Seattle 3:25:07.320 --> 3:25:11.560 traded back and took Griffin. Yeah you think wow? So 3:25:11.959 --> 3:25:13.400 they would no again? I said it because it would 3:25:13.400 --> 3:25:16.080 be a shock. Wow. Well they did the trade back part. 3:25:16.200 --> 3:25:19.640 Let's I mean, I know his brother plays there, but man, no, 3:25:19.840 --> 3:25:22.080 it's probably this is this is the pick that went 3:25:22.240 --> 3:25:25.720 from New Orleans to green Bay? Right? Am? I correct 3:25:25.760 --> 3:25:29.160 about that? And then and now it's in Seattle's hands. 3:25:29.680 --> 3:25:32.959 So let's see because green Bay traded back up, which 3:25:33.080 --> 3:25:34.840 I don't want to put y'all on the spot. I 3:25:34.920 --> 3:25:37.160 can't even keep track of my chicken scratch? How many? 3:25:37.240 --> 3:25:41.840 How many trades have we seen tonight? One two and 3:25:41.920 --> 3:25:44.400 two teams have traded twice. Green Bay and Baltimore are 3:25:44.440 --> 3:25:47.440 both traded twice. Right, Dane to go back you're talking 3:25:47.440 --> 3:25:49.640 about like seven trades, I think, yeah. To go back 3:25:49.720 --> 3:25:54.440 to Maurice Hurst, the defensive tackle from Michigan, UH talking 3:25:54.520 --> 3:25:56.840 some teams around the league. He has a what they're 3:25:56.879 --> 3:26:00.000 calling a thickening of the heart in which he's played 3:26:00.240 --> 3:26:04.160 through and if he UH can't correct, you can't correct 3:26:04.240 --> 3:26:07.119 this and if they do surgery, it will end his career. 3:26:07.320 --> 3:26:09.760 So you just kind of need to find a round 3:26:09.800 --> 3:26:11.760 where you're comfortable taking him. He did play with this 3:26:11.840 --> 3:26:14.520 at Michigan, but it is a thickening of the heart, 3:26:14.879 --> 3:26:17.480 and so we will see some teams do have him 3:26:17.520 --> 3:26:19.960 off the draft board. But again, you just need to 3:26:20.000 --> 3:26:22.720 find around where you're comfortable taking him and uh and 3:26:22.879 --> 3:26:24.280 go from there. So that kind of tells you a 3:26:24.320 --> 3:26:28.600 little about Maurice Hearst, the defensive tackle from from Michigan. 3:26:28.680 --> 3:26:31.119 He's going to be off just a lot of boards. 3:26:31.360 --> 3:26:33.880 That's just how it's going to be. Um who knows, 3:26:33.959 --> 3:26:37.160 it's anyone's guess what boards he's on and at what 3:26:37.320 --> 3:26:40.520 point in the draft. Teams feeling find find around where 3:26:40.560 --> 3:26:42.520 you at, you know, and again it's something that if 3:26:42.560 --> 3:26:45.920 he if he has it corrected, then that will end 3:26:46.000 --> 3:26:49.199 his career. I'm I mean, I've I've whipped on trying 3:26:49.240 --> 3:26:52.640 to project Harold Landry about five times tonight. But Seattle 3:26:52.720 --> 3:26:55.280 needs I mean, Malik McDowell's off the team a year 3:26:55.320 --> 3:26:58.320 after they drafted him. Yeah, and obviously I mean because 3:26:58.440 --> 3:27:03.720 the accident. Not right, right, Yeah, different positions, But Taven, Brian, 3:27:03.959 --> 3:27:06.200 maybe you want a three tech. Maybe you want a 3:27:06.400 --> 3:27:10.240 pass rusher to help Frank Clark. Yeah, Frank Clark's in 3:27:10.280 --> 3:27:11.920 the final year of his deal, so you need edge 3:27:12.080 --> 3:27:15.600 help Harold Landry. We've been and that was my first thing, 3:27:15.760 --> 3:27:18.560 sat here and argued over Frank Clark and he's already 3:27:18.600 --> 3:27:20.440 coming up on the end of the verre. But yeah, 3:27:20.480 --> 3:27:23.120 you're right. It wasn't Irving. Whose guy was that? By 3:27:23.160 --> 3:27:24.680 the way, it was your guy when I when I 3:27:24.800 --> 3:27:26.720 saw that, that was the first thing that went through 3:27:26.760 --> 3:27:30.200 my head, Like he's about free agency getting old long, 3:27:30.240 --> 3:27:33.040 we've been doing that. Well, here we go the Seahawks. 3:27:33.400 --> 3:27:36.480 We've talked about some of the things that you mentioned. 3:27:36.600 --> 3:27:39.680 Defensive end. It's just too much value right there. I mean, 3:27:39.760 --> 3:27:42.400 Harold Landry something, I mean, here's a guy, like I said, 3:27:42.680 --> 3:27:45.320 this guy wins on the first step. Dip Flatten the 3:27:45.400 --> 3:27:48.240 quarterback and Chase. I mean, there's a lot of really 3:27:48.320 --> 3:27:52.520 good things about Harold Landry and the tape. I wonder 3:27:52.520 --> 3:27:55.600 if the tape Dane from this year, Dave. I wonder 3:27:55.640 --> 3:27:57.920 if people just sat there and to valuated the tape 3:27:58.000 --> 3:28:00.800 this year and said, you know what, this is what 3:28:00.959 --> 3:28:03.920 he is, and they didn't look at two thousand and sixteen. 3:28:04.040 --> 3:28:06.200 How are you going to do that again? I think 3:28:06.240 --> 3:28:09.200 it comes back to he's a very good pass rusher, 3:28:09.280 --> 3:28:11.880 but you worry about him versus the run. It's you 3:28:12.000 --> 3:28:15.240 cannot have him out there if he's a liability, if 3:28:15.240 --> 3:28:17.560 he can't shut down the edge, and so I think 3:28:17.600 --> 3:28:19.480 the fact that he can't play the run is the 3:28:19.560 --> 3:28:21.960 biggest reason why we're still seeing him in the stress. 3:28:22.000 --> 3:28:24.160 And it's not that he can't, it's just that he struggles. 3:28:24.320 --> 3:28:26.680 It's going to be inconsistent. Some plays. He'll do a 3:28:26.760 --> 3:28:31.120 nice job, you know, stringing run plays outside. Sometimes he'll 3:28:31.120 --> 3:28:33.680 get dominated at the point of attack and it'll open 3:28:33.760 --> 3:28:36.200 up run lanes off tackle more the running back. I'll 3:28:36.200 --> 3:28:38.040 tell you what, Dame Brewer, you're a smart scout. I 3:28:38.120 --> 3:28:41.080 thought this, you know again, initial quickness off the ball, 3:28:41.120 --> 3:28:43.200 wrap a tap plays signment, but will get fooled at times, 3:28:43.280 --> 3:28:45.560 doesn't always find the ball, can redirect when he needs to, 3:28:45.680 --> 3:28:49.160 will struggle when the ball comes right at him. Players 3:28:49.160 --> 3:28:50.920 where who get washed out of the way, has the 3:28:51.000 --> 3:28:53.920 quickness to capture the edge, needs to use more moves. 3:28:54.000 --> 3:28:56.760 I thought like he had some passers smooth, But I 3:28:56.840 --> 3:28:58.760 was kind of thinking, like, you know, maybe if you 3:28:58.800 --> 3:29:01.600 put him at that wide nine and let him go. Yeah, well, 3:29:01.640 --> 3:29:04.560 here's John Snyder. Uh. And then they're they're showing the 3:29:04.600 --> 3:29:07.560 war room right now, Paul Allen Uh in the middle 3:29:07.680 --> 3:29:11.320 of the with talking to Pete Carroll and also dealing. 3:29:11.440 --> 3:29:14.680 Where's is yet John standing up? Is that Snyder to 3:29:15.120 --> 3:29:17.480 the left of Pete Carroll? Yeah, looking like he's heading 3:29:17.480 --> 3:29:20.279 to a van. Yes, he's going to a pearl jam Conco. 3:29:20.360 --> 3:29:23.480 He looks like he is. That's my former intern. Ny. 3:29:23.920 --> 3:29:27.200 I like that guy, Johnny Snyder, my former guy. So, yeah, 3:29:27.720 --> 3:29:29.520 he is about to make a pick. Here the picks 3:29:29.600 --> 3:29:32.840 in at one twenty seven, we'll see John John Schneider 3:29:32.920 --> 3:29:34.400 seems like the type of guy who like he might 3:29:34.440 --> 3:29:37.880 be wearing flip flops. You know, everybody, everybody, you can 3:29:37.920 --> 3:29:39.400 be grief all the time about him. It's like since 3:29:39.440 --> 3:29:41.160 he fights us out for beer, and you're kind of like, yeah, 3:29:41.160 --> 3:29:43.760 why why do we go? Hey, let's go trade war 3:29:43.879 --> 3:29:46.080 stories with the GM of a super Bowl winning team. 3:29:46.120 --> 3:29:47.800 And you're like, Oh, I don't want to bother him. No, 3:29:49.800 --> 3:29:52.840 Like he's wearing flip flops and everybody in Dallas is 3:29:52.879 --> 3:29:56.320 wearing a three piece suit, and just I love his vibe. Yeah, well, 3:29:56.360 --> 3:29:58.480 it's a good Well the pick is and we'll see 3:29:58.520 --> 3:30:01.080 which direction we go. We feel like it's gonna be defense. 3:30:01.560 --> 3:30:03.800 Dane kind of gave you some of the guys we 3:30:03.920 --> 3:30:07.400 talked about. Landry I still have Hughes the corner from 3:30:07.480 --> 3:30:11.040 Central floors, Jacks on board, Josh Jackson's still out there. 3:30:11.280 --> 3:30:14.240 Uh yeah, I'm you know, if they got there's offensive 3:30:14.280 --> 3:30:17.800 lineman that are still available. We've talked about Daniels, Hernandez 3:30:18.800 --> 3:30:23.119 or guys as well. And Connor Williams too is there 3:30:23.200 --> 3:30:27.120 as well. O'Neill is another guy. So uh, plenty. You know, 3:30:27.320 --> 3:30:30.640 Seahawks now picking at twenty seven. There there's some quality 3:30:30.720 --> 3:30:34.280 players for them to to kind of look over, uh 3:30:34.360 --> 3:30:36.680 and uh and see if they would like to make 3:30:36.760 --> 3:30:39.960 that pick. Oh Man, Seattle's been on the clock for 3:30:40.000 --> 3:30:43.080 about two days. I'm just I'm I'm just pulling stuff 3:30:43.120 --> 3:30:45.160 out of nowhere right now. But no, man, you've got 3:30:45.200 --> 3:30:46.880 two more days of this day. But we have got 3:30:47.080 --> 3:30:49.440 to walk at thee. I'll let no no, no, no no, 3:30:49.720 --> 3:30:53.160 and that's I'll I'll let make this pick real quick. 3:30:53.200 --> 3:31:10.800 Good they'll make this pick. Whoa, whoa. I mean, good player, 3:31:10.920 --> 3:31:14.560 but that's a I shocker with this pick. Just different player. 3:31:15.000 --> 3:31:19.720 Um wow, you would think that he'd be available. I 3:31:19.760 --> 3:31:21.959 guess they Seattle doesn't have a second or third round pick. 3:31:22.040 --> 3:31:24.680 They don't, but they sure don't. Man. That's that's But 3:31:24.760 --> 3:31:27.039 if you think about the running backs, and Pete Carroll 3:31:27.400 --> 3:31:30.959 probably knows Ronald Jones, I mean he's got those USC connections. 3:31:31.640 --> 3:31:36.080 Uh you know Carron Johnson, Guys, Sony, Michelle, Nick, Chubb Wiley. 3:31:36.120 --> 3:31:40.840 Those were all guys I had above Penny. So uh wow, 3:31:41.120 --> 3:31:43.600 I'm I'm I'm gonna put up pull out my Homer 3:31:43.640 --> 3:31:46.800 hat for a I'm sorry, Darius Guys is still on 3:31:46.840 --> 3:31:49.240 the board. Come on, yeah, way, Well, if you're taking 3:31:49.280 --> 3:31:52.120 a running back, that's no, that's my I mean, you're drafting, 3:31:52.400 --> 3:31:55.680 you're drafting Rashad Penny. Yeah, and Darius Guys is still there. 3:31:55.840 --> 3:31:59.080 Yeah huh. And I do like John Schneider and I 3:31:59.200 --> 3:32:02.000 trust his evaluations because he's built himself a pretty nice 3:32:02.040 --> 3:32:05.720 team up there. But man, he's got more more hardware 3:32:05.800 --> 3:32:08.959 than you and I do. You're damn right. Oh wha wait, 3:32:09.200 --> 3:32:12.520 he's got two that's right. Yeah, he gets you. He's 3:32:12.520 --> 3:32:16.400 got me by one yet one together, one one together. 3:32:16.480 --> 3:32:19.279 That's what he's got me on he has. He built 3:32:19.440 --> 3:32:23.480 one of those balls. He sure did. Okay, let's talk 3:32:23.520 --> 3:32:28.800 about talk about Penny Dane. Maybe we kind of understand. 3:32:28.840 --> 3:32:32.080 I mean, he's a good looking kid physically running the football. 3:32:32.080 --> 3:32:33.800 I mean, you see him, he's got some finish to him. 3:32:34.640 --> 3:32:37.080 Did Did you have a problem with him as a 3:32:37.160 --> 3:32:40.120 pass blocker? Was that kind of where where things go 3:32:40.320 --> 3:32:42.680 with him? A little bit? That that he wasn't That 3:32:43.720 --> 3:32:46.040 wasn't the complete back that we all thought he might be. Right, 3:32:46.360 --> 3:32:48.200 we know he can run the football over two thousand 3:32:48.280 --> 3:32:52.840 yards this year impact kicker Turner as well. Sure showed 3:32:52.840 --> 3:32:54.400 the ability to catch the ball in the backfield and 3:32:54.400 --> 3:32:55.720 needs to get better in that area, but showed the 3:32:55.800 --> 3:32:59.080 ability he could. His pass protection was a disaster. He 3:32:59.200 --> 3:33:01.160 needs to get better than that area. And I've said 3:33:01.160 --> 3:33:03.320 it before, but I was encouraged that he has said 3:33:03.400 --> 3:33:05.200 that he is not very good right now. He knows 3:33:05.280 --> 3:33:08.080 that's his weakness pass protection, and he knows he needs 3:33:08.120 --> 3:33:11.920 to get better. Big question is will he so still? 3:33:12.000 --> 3:33:14.520 I mean, I'm very surprised he was my fifty eighth 3:33:14.600 --> 3:33:21.960 best player and surprised he went ahead of guys Ronald 3:33:22.040 --> 3:33:25.680 Jones to Georgia running backs which carry on. Johnson, I 3:33:25.800 --> 3:33:27.840 do this thing every year where I try to pick 3:33:28.160 --> 3:33:30.480 thirty two that I tried to thirty two guys who 3:33:30.520 --> 3:33:33.160 I think they're going to go, and I probably never 3:33:33.240 --> 3:33:35.360 considered him. I did well, and I thought I was 3:33:35.400 --> 3:33:38.520 crazy because I put Ronald Jones on him, and I 3:33:38.760 --> 3:33:41.360 was right to think that that might happen. But I 3:33:41.600 --> 3:33:45.080 picked I was off on the guy by a lot. Wait, 3:33:45.520 --> 3:33:49.039 so I'm sorry, but before this comes in, that's where 3:33:49.080 --> 3:33:51.880 I was trying to go. Before that, well, I'm okay, 3:33:52.760 --> 3:33:57.160 Lamar Jackson. I'm looking at this ticker here. Yeah, Steelers 3:33:57.600 --> 3:33:59.200 make a little You could you could convince me in 3:33:59.200 --> 3:34:02.879 the Steelers. You could can. Honestly, Pittsburgh Jacksonville in New 3:34:02.920 --> 3:34:05.039 England all makes sense as a land of the Philadelphia 3:34:05.120 --> 3:34:07.480 takes here's the thing that scares the crap out of me. 3:34:07.640 --> 3:34:11.440 And that's why before the Seattle pick, I said, oh no, yeah, 3:34:12.040 --> 3:34:14.280 what what kind of draft capital did the New York 3:34:14.360 --> 3:34:18.240 Giants have to trade up? They? I mean, let's look 3:34:18.280 --> 3:34:20.600 at their board. I think they were. I think they were. 3:34:20.720 --> 3:34:23.280 They were hurting for some picks they've got. They've got 3:34:23.360 --> 3:34:26.360 They've done the third, Yeah, they got one in the second. Yeah, 3:34:26.400 --> 3:34:29.120 they got the Actually they've got pick sixty six and 3:34:29.280 --> 3:34:33.879 sixty nine, and that's worth uh, two sixty and two 3:34:34.040 --> 3:34:38.480 forty five for you math experts, gentile under gentleman, I 3:34:38.600 --> 3:34:41.600 don't want any part of Lamar Jackson and sae Quon 3:34:41.720 --> 3:34:45.280 Barkley both being in New York. And then maybe the 3:34:45.360 --> 3:34:47.120 Giants don't even have to trade up to do it. 3:34:47.200 --> 3:34:49.000 Maybe they can just let him fall the thirties. It's 3:34:49.040 --> 3:34:51.400 funny because no one's drafting him. They take with those 3:34:51.400 --> 3:34:54.120 offensive linemen. If the Steelers draft him, everyone in the 3:34:54.280 --> 3:34:56.880 AFC North is going, oh crap, yeah, oh you know, 3:34:56.959 --> 3:34:59.240 I mean, like no one's drafting him. But still once 3:34:59.280 --> 3:35:00.880 he is draft did the rest of the teams of 3:35:00.879 --> 3:35:02.840 the division are going to be like, oh no, nobody 3:35:03.000 --> 3:35:05.360 was drafting Derek Carr either and he was the best 3:35:05.440 --> 3:35:08.360 quarterback that came out of that class. Inside linebacker, corner, 3:35:08.480 --> 3:35:11.240 wide receiver, and quarterback are the ones you need to 3:35:11.320 --> 3:35:15.200 think about here at Pittsburgh High projected read here the 3:35:15.240 --> 3:35:18.280 safety from Stanford. Yeah, I think that's a direction they 3:35:18.320 --> 3:35:21.080 can go. We could see a running back here. We 3:35:21.120 --> 3:35:23.520 don't know how Levion Bell situation is going to work out. 3:35:26.720 --> 3:35:29.360 We think they could go defensive line with at some 3:35:29.520 --> 3:35:31.640 depth they had some help up front. I don't as 3:35:31.680 --> 3:35:33.920 a linebacker worth here, you know, Brian Shizier, we know 3:35:34.080 --> 3:35:36.600 is out? Is there a linebacker? We feel good here? 3:35:36.720 --> 3:35:39.080 With the top four off the board. Could they go 3:35:39.200 --> 3:35:42.560 for some this is too high for him. They probably 3:35:42.560 --> 3:35:46.000 wouldn't do it. It wouldn't take Josie Jewel here, would they? No, 3:35:47.320 --> 3:35:51.920 they won't. What if they took Griffin m that. I'll 3:35:52.000 --> 3:35:53.880 trying to get real wild with it tonight. I like 3:35:54.040 --> 3:35:57.120 it now. I'm just saying no. I mean, I mean 3:35:57.760 --> 3:36:00.600 you can't. I mean and I mean, hey, got the warner, 3:36:00.640 --> 3:36:03.160 I mean Hughes. Hughes makes a lot of sense there, 3:36:03.240 --> 3:36:05.760 though done it? I mean corner I had lit his 3:36:05.840 --> 3:36:10.720 corners are second need inside linebacker, corner, wide receiver. I 3:36:10.760 --> 3:36:15.760 got that right. Yeah, so maybe maybe that's the Maybe 3:36:15.879 --> 3:36:19.320 Hughes is what's wrong with Hughes? I mean, do we do? 3:36:19.400 --> 3:36:21.120 We do? We did think he was? I mean I 3:36:21.160 --> 3:36:22.720 got a first round God, you have a second ground 3:36:22.840 --> 3:36:24.680 round grade on him. I've got a one two. I 3:36:24.760 --> 3:36:27.120 mean on my board, he's little. Here we go. Commission's 3:36:27.160 --> 3:36:28.520 gonna TELLU. So it is, he's getting ready to be 3:36:28.520 --> 3:37:00.520 a pro Bowl. I don't worry about it. Wow, that's great. 3:37:45.000 --> 3:37:47.720 I go both Edmund's brothers go out in the first round. 3:37:47.920 --> 3:37:50.000 There he is. That was a pretty cool moment. That 3:37:50.120 --> 3:37:52.720 is a very kil moment. So they you thought Dane, 3:37:52.760 --> 3:37:55.320 they thought they were gonna take the safety read and 3:37:55.440 --> 3:37:59.400 instead they'd take Terrill Edmonds, the safety from Virginia Tech. 3:38:00.160 --> 3:38:04.200 He was a thirty visit guy for the Cowboys, and 3:38:04.480 --> 3:38:07.320 so talk a little bit about him, Dane, and what 3:38:08.520 --> 3:38:11.320 this Virginia Tech safety can bring to the Pittsburgh Steelers. 3:38:11.400 --> 3:38:12.920 I wasn't as high on him. I think he's he 3:38:13.000 --> 3:38:16.840 struggles in coverage. He's a big, physical guy, can come 3:38:16.879 --> 3:38:20.120 out hitch a verse to run. Tested really well at 3:38:20.200 --> 3:38:23.040 the combine, tested it off the charts really, but I 3:38:23.160 --> 3:38:25.600 thought you watched him in coverage and he was out 3:38:25.640 --> 3:38:29.160 of position a lot gave up spacing, So I worry 3:38:29.160 --> 3:38:31.280 about him in that respect. So I see him as 3:38:31.320 --> 3:38:33.240 more of a strong than a free and I think 3:38:33.240 --> 3:38:35.959 that's what really Pittsburgh needed as a true free safety. 3:38:36.959 --> 3:38:38.960 I would guess they're gonna triumph it free first, so 3:38:39.080 --> 3:38:40.920 I'm eager to see how this one plays out. Yeah, 3:38:40.959 --> 3:38:42.640 he's one of those guys. It's got a good pedal, 3:38:42.680 --> 3:38:44.480 but it takes him a little bit to get going. 3:38:44.640 --> 3:38:46.600 And once he does, though, he's all right with that 3:38:47.240 --> 3:38:49.240 wrap up tacker. He's not smooth, but he can cover 3:38:49.360 --> 3:38:51.960 some ground play in the slot, tackles well up space. 3:38:52.480 --> 3:38:54.480 He could save the day with his tackling ability. There 3:38:54.480 --> 3:38:57.120 were plenty of times on tape where again the rest 3:38:57.240 --> 3:39:00.480 Virginia game Duket Miami, where he had to eight players 3:39:00.560 --> 3:39:03.600 or breakdowns and he was able to make the play well. 3:39:03.720 --> 3:39:06.120 But I thought he'd tracked the ball pretty well against Duke. 3:39:06.400 --> 3:39:07.959 They used him as a blitzer a little bit can 3:39:08.040 --> 3:39:10.440 carry the tight in and where for the crosser. Some 3:39:10.720 --> 3:39:14.200 change of direction there. But you know I'm with you 3:39:14.320 --> 3:39:16.560 on that. I mean the notes read a lot more 3:39:17.120 --> 3:39:20.119 better than him. I had him as a fourth round player, 3:39:20.600 --> 3:39:23.640 So we'll see exactly where they play him. I'm with you, Dan, 3:39:23.640 --> 3:39:25.040 I think he was more of a strong safety and 3:39:25.120 --> 3:39:27.879 he really was a free But we'll see how the Steelers, 3:39:28.000 --> 3:39:30.560 in fact, you play him. His set of brothers every 3:39:30.560 --> 3:39:34.240 been selected in the same first round. I mean, guess 3:39:35.080 --> 3:39:37.560 Tiki Barber and Ronde Barber were both I think one 3:39:37.680 --> 3:39:41.800 was a third the top three picks. Yeah, and so 3:39:41.879 --> 3:39:44.720 that happened in nineteen eighty seven. But in the same 3:39:44.760 --> 3:39:47.680 first round two brothers. I don't I don't know. I 3:39:48.200 --> 3:39:50.520 thought my head. I can't think of anything either. Yeah, 3:39:51.160 --> 3:39:53.800 random observation on my part. But good note though, Dane, 3:39:54.120 --> 3:39:57.879 is it is? It is? How does his safety one 3:39:57.920 --> 3:40:01.280 of the harder positions to grade in football these days, 3:40:01.400 --> 3:40:03.240 especially with the way the game is played and how 3:40:03.320 --> 3:40:05.320 hard it is to play that position. Well, it's it's 3:40:05.440 --> 3:40:07.800 it's if you have a guy that's a banger safety, 3:40:08.280 --> 3:40:10.800 you know, a guy that'll hit the guys out of 3:40:10.800 --> 3:40:13.760 the game, the rules, the rules are are taking those guys. 3:40:13.760 --> 3:40:17.120 They're taking Darren Woodson out of the game, or Ronnie 3:40:17.160 --> 3:40:19.400 Lott or those types of guys. The reason I ask 3:40:19.640 --> 3:40:22.000 is I feel like this is maybe the third year 3:40:22.080 --> 3:40:25.720 in a row where a safety like this has gone 3:40:26.040 --> 3:40:29.440 in the middle to late first round that nobody really 3:40:29.480 --> 3:40:33.800 agreed on. Karl Joseph comes to mind, Um, who's the 3:40:33.959 --> 3:40:36.040 Keyan O'Neill is another guy that comes to mind. And 3:40:36.120 --> 3:40:39.000 it's like you find people all over the board, Like, 3:40:39.080 --> 3:40:41.240 clearly the Steelers like this guy enough to draft him 3:40:41.240 --> 3:40:43.240 twenty eight. You just said he's a fourth round grade? 3:40:43.280 --> 3:40:46.880 What was your grade? Dan? Third? Mid third? So that 3:40:47.080 --> 3:40:50.200 that's my I mean, typically for the most part, you 3:40:50.280 --> 3:40:53.760 have a pretty firm consensus on these guys, but that 3:40:53.879 --> 3:40:56.119 just doesn't seem like it's been the case at safety, 3:40:56.400 --> 3:40:59.360 with a few exceptions for guys like Derwin James. It 3:40:59.440 --> 3:41:03.279 seems like beauty's in the eye of beholder. The beholder 3:41:03.440 --> 3:41:05.280 with this position more so than a lot of others. 3:41:05.320 --> 3:41:08.320 All Right, Jacksonville is on the clock. Their pick is in. 3:41:08.879 --> 3:41:11.160 We'll wait for that. I was talking with some sources 3:41:11.200 --> 3:41:14.280 in Jacksonville even before the draft, and they were asking 3:41:14.360 --> 3:41:17.320 me about tight ends. Who I had as a tight ends. 3:41:17.720 --> 3:41:19.840 I think this is where your guy goes Dane. I 3:41:19.959 --> 3:41:22.240 think this is Goddard. Goddard go it makes sense, yea, 3:41:22.640 --> 3:41:26.280 Lamar Jackson still on the board. Yeah, I have to man, Okay, 3:41:26.320 --> 3:41:28.560 you want to talk about that, then, would you rather 3:41:28.640 --> 3:41:31.560 would you take Jackson over Goddard in this situation? I 3:41:31.600 --> 3:41:34.360 would yeah. I mean, because you don't really trust Blake 3:41:34.440 --> 3:41:36.480 Bortles to you, right, And I know they resigned him, 3:41:36.520 --> 3:41:39.120 but that's fine. Lamar Jackson can sit and learn and 3:41:39.760 --> 3:41:41.720 at the very least you can get him on the 3:41:41.800 --> 3:41:44.599 field and some type of package and use his athleticism. 3:41:45.560 --> 3:41:49.000 But this Jacksonville Jaguars team is poised to win now, 3:41:49.200 --> 3:41:51.879 and so I get it they don't go in that direction. 3:41:51.920 --> 3:41:54.480 If they go for a Connor Williams or a Dallas Goddard, 3:41:54.800 --> 3:41:56.760 it certainly makes sense because that's more of a player 3:41:56.800 --> 3:41:59.720 that's going to help Now, Dave and you thought about that, 3:42:01.240 --> 3:42:04.080 that's tough, man, because I mean it's the ultimate catch. 3:42:04.160 --> 3:42:07.600 Twenty two is like Lake Bortles. Is he a guy 3:42:07.680 --> 3:42:10.080 that's gonna play there for the foreseeable future. I know 3:42:10.280 --> 3:42:12.000 Tom Coffin's kind of throwing him a little bit of 3:42:12.000 --> 3:42:13.960 a lifeline a little bit, right. This is a team 3:42:14.000 --> 3:42:15.960 that was a touchdown away from the Super Bowl, and 3:42:16.160 --> 3:42:18.520 you're drafting a guy who maybe won't help you in 3:42:18.600 --> 3:42:22.040 twenty eighteen. Like that's a tough pill to swallow. It's 3:42:22.040 --> 3:42:23.960 a lot like trading away a future one. It's like, 3:42:24.440 --> 3:42:26.520 this is a good idea, but it might bite us 3:42:26.560 --> 3:42:29.400 in the long run. I'm so glad I don't have 3:42:29.560 --> 3:42:33.720 linebacker tackle tied end wide receiver. We don't feel like 3:42:33.800 --> 3:42:36.640 the wide receivers are that involved with the ones, at 3:42:36.720 --> 3:42:40.160 least the first round wide receivers, but linebacker, offensive tackle 3:42:40.240 --> 3:42:42.760 tied end. I do feel like, again, I got a 3:42:42.800 --> 3:42:44.720 pretty good source down there in Jacksonville, and he was 3:42:44.760 --> 3:42:46.760 asking me about tight ends and how I kind of 3:42:46.800 --> 3:42:49.960 had him ranked, and I mean maybe mentioned too that 3:42:50.240 --> 3:42:52.240 how Dane had his, and so we were all kind 3:42:52.280 --> 3:42:54.640 of but this seems very much like that kind of 3:42:54.640 --> 3:42:57.080 a pick. Their pick win in pretty early once they 3:42:57.160 --> 3:42:59.320 went on the clock. Once the Steelers made their pick, 3:42:59.360 --> 3:43:01.760 they felt like that they had their guy and Tom 3:43:01.879 --> 3:43:05.120 Coughlin running things down to him and David Calwell uh 3:43:05.280 --> 3:43:07.680 doing things with the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's a good team 3:43:07.760 --> 3:43:10.680 to watch. So they'll be here at at and T Stadium. 3:43:11.160 --> 3:43:12.920 You know that'd be a difficult matchup, don't you think 3:43:12.920 --> 3:43:18.600 their day. Yeah, I'm touchdown away from the super Bowl everywhere. 3:43:18.680 --> 3:43:32.560 Here's the commissioner. Yeah all right, yeah, why not just 3:43:32.720 --> 3:43:36.240 add another monster to that defense? Since already fantastic. Did 3:43:36.280 --> 3:43:38.080 you feel like that Taven Bryan was gonna I mean 3:43:38.120 --> 3:43:40.240 you mentioned him earlier, right, yeah, I thought he was up. 3:43:40.440 --> 3:43:42.040 Once we got to the Cowboys pick at nineteen, I 3:43:42.080 --> 3:43:45.160 thought that's when you Taven Brian. Watch started. Um, surprise, 3:43:45.200 --> 3:43:48.520 he got past a few teams Atlanta, although they took 3:43:48.560 --> 3:43:52.480 a nice player in Calvin Ridley, um upfield penetrator. The traits, 3:43:52.680 --> 3:43:54.960 the traits are better than the tape right now, Um, 3:43:55.240 --> 3:43:57.600 you know you worry about I care more about traits 3:43:57.640 --> 3:44:00.080 than production. But his lack of production did scare me 3:44:00.120 --> 3:44:01.920 a little bit because he can get into the backfield, 3:44:02.240 --> 3:44:04.080 but I need a guy that can finish. I think 3:44:04.200 --> 3:44:06.400 that he still has room to develop. He will get better, 3:44:06.840 --> 3:44:09.280 but I still worried a little bit about him. He 3:44:09.400 --> 3:44:12.160 was played more like a second round player than a 3:44:12.160 --> 3:44:14.560 first round player. But the traits are first round worthy, 3:44:14.720 --> 3:44:16.400 and so I think here at this point in the 3:44:16.440 --> 3:44:19.440 first round, I think this is this is an appropriate 3:44:19.560 --> 3:44:21.840 value of where he should have come off the board. Yeah, Tevin, 3:44:22.600 --> 3:44:24.360 I like the way I thought the quickness that you 3:44:24.440 --> 3:44:26.320 were talking about. You know, they're showing right now the 3:44:26.400 --> 3:44:29.440 highlights of Texas A and M. He was a dominant 3:44:29.480 --> 3:44:32.080 player in that game, and I thought he did do 3:44:32.200 --> 3:44:35.680 a pretty good job with moves pass rush moves, using 3:44:35.720 --> 3:44:39.600 his hands, free himself, hit the gap, you know, chase disruptive. 3:44:39.879 --> 3:44:41.879 You know, he could draw holding calls of seeing him 3:44:41.879 --> 3:44:43.720 do that a bunch. He has been to the quarterback. 3:44:44.080 --> 3:44:45.800 He's a hard guy to work in front of when 3:44:45.840 --> 3:44:47.560 he when he gets going up the field and makes 3:44:47.600 --> 3:44:49.880 a move, he is a hard guy to get your 3:44:49.959 --> 3:44:52.400 body in front because he's got so much quickness and 3:44:52.520 --> 3:44:54.480 he's outside the tackle box type of a player that 3:44:54.560 --> 3:44:57.200 use him to the twist game. Pretty good pick right 3:44:57.240 --> 3:44:59.800 there for the Jaguars. Again, that's a team it's pretty 3:45:00.000 --> 3:45:02.400 salty on defense right now. He was number twenty nine 3:45:02.440 --> 3:45:05.480 on my board. Look at that this Okay, they got 3:45:05.640 --> 3:45:08.680 they got Klais Campbell, Malie Jackson, Tavan, Bryan Yannick and 3:45:08.760 --> 3:45:12.640 Gaguay And that doesn't even have Dante Fowler. I mean, 3:45:13.240 --> 3:45:16.000 and actually I love that, Like this right here illustrates 3:45:16.080 --> 3:45:18.680 the beauty of the NFL. If I'm a Browns fan, 3:45:18.840 --> 3:45:21.280 I love watching the Jags pick twenty ninth because the 3:45:21.400 --> 3:45:24.200 Jags were a staple in the top ten, Like they 3:45:24.240 --> 3:45:26.840 were coaching the Senior Bowl every year, eight freaking years. 3:45:28.520 --> 3:45:32.080 They're picking twenty ninth and just adding guys to an 3:45:32.120 --> 3:45:36.240 already loaded front seven. Love it. So that puts the 3:45:36.320 --> 3:45:38.760 Minnesota Vikings on the clock. Heck, they know who their 3:45:38.800 --> 3:45:41.080 pick is. They've already got that thing in So maybe 3:45:41.080 --> 3:45:43.680 they want a guard. Yeah, a guard, you think they would? 3:45:43.959 --> 3:45:45.520 They got they got, Ever, I don't know what else 3:45:45.560 --> 3:45:48.400 they Hernandez falls them. It's a perfect fit on what else? 3:45:48.520 --> 3:45:51.560 What else could they possibly want? I mean honest, like, 3:45:51.680 --> 3:45:54.960 what are what other holes do they have? They're they're 3:45:54.959 --> 3:45:57.400 a team that doesn't have many. They got they got 3:45:57.440 --> 3:46:00.440 the quarterback, they drafted a running back last year. They 3:46:00.520 --> 3:46:04.600 got their receivers. There's studs all over their defense. They 3:46:04.680 --> 3:46:08.480 could they could go U corner. You know Terrence Newman, 3:46:08.560 --> 3:46:11.200 they still haven't resigned him, he's still out there. Could 3:46:11.240 --> 3:46:14.000 go corner. Uh, they could go you know, we know 3:46:14.120 --> 3:46:17.240 Mike Zimmer likes upgrade the defensive line. Yeah, Anthony Barr 3:46:17.320 --> 3:46:19.000 set for a big pay day. Maybe they look for 3:46:19.520 --> 3:46:22.400 his future replacement. So I think there are a lot 3:46:22.400 --> 3:46:24.520 of different directions they could go, but guards sticks out 3:46:24.560 --> 3:46:26.560 like a sore thumb as an maybe their top need. 3:46:26.640 --> 3:46:29.120 And with will Hernandez sitting there, James Daniels too, they 3:46:29.200 --> 3:46:31.119 gave Kirk Cousins a ton of money and the tah 3:46:31.200 --> 3:46:33.000 trying to protect him. There you go. They did visit 3:46:33.120 --> 3:46:36.680 Connor Williams, uh and he is there. Let's see who 3:46:36.720 --> 3:46:38.920 else they got there picking the litter. Yeah, they can. 3:46:39.000 --> 3:46:40.480 They could take whoever they want if they want to. 3:46:40.520 --> 3:46:43.440 If if they want to put Connor Williams to guard, 3:46:44.160 --> 3:46:46.040 you know, if that's something Dane, you feel like that 3:46:46.120 --> 3:46:48.080 they need to do. Draft him and see what they 3:46:48.160 --> 3:46:50.960 had the most exactly. Well that's yeah, on the right side, 3:46:51.360 --> 3:46:54.080 that's what they were thinking because with a Mike Remmers, 3:46:54.200 --> 3:46:56.440 yeah right, tackle, I think about moving him inside to guard. 3:46:56.520 --> 3:46:59.400 So as a possibility, well, it looks like that. The 3:47:00.040 --> 3:47:02.280 Viking said their pick is in the commissioners, making his 3:47:02.320 --> 3:47:06.240 way to the podium, Chris pick one thirty in the 3:47:06.280 --> 3:47:22.120 first round. Here we go, Yeah, here you go. You 3:47:22.200 --> 3:47:24.920 talked about you talk about Terrence Newman. He's unsigned that 3:47:25.080 --> 3:47:28.840 you know, they need a Nickel guy McKenzie Alexander hasn't 3:47:28.920 --> 3:47:32.120 quite lived up to what they were hoping. So they're 3:47:32.160 --> 3:47:36.560 set on the on the outside with Davia Rhodes. And 3:47:36.959 --> 3:47:40.120 who's our Michigan State corner, Trey Waynes. Yeah, thank you, 3:47:40.360 --> 3:47:42.760 And so Mike Hughes can step in compete for that 3:47:42.879 --> 3:47:47.320 Nickel job right away and get on the field. Dave No, Well, 3:47:47.360 --> 3:47:50.400 I'm hey, and I went hard on guard, but that rhymed. 3:47:51.200 --> 3:47:53.160 I thought it would be a guard. But if it 3:47:53.240 --> 3:47:54.959 wasn't gonna be a guard, Dane threw it right there 3:47:55.000 --> 3:47:57.880 for you. And that, I mean, god, that the defense 3:47:58.000 --> 3:48:00.640 is a lot like Jacksonville. That defense is we got 3:48:01.160 --> 3:48:04.440 the Neil Hunter, they got Anthony Bard, they got Eric Kendricks, 3:48:04.760 --> 3:48:09.240 Harrison Smith, Xavier Rhodes. So yeah, I mean, damn, And 3:48:09.560 --> 3:48:12.000 I mean obviously you're projecting here, but if Mike Hughes 3:48:12.080 --> 3:48:14.760 plays the way that you think he's capable of, that 3:48:14.959 --> 3:48:17.520 is a really nice combo of guys that can play 3:48:17.520 --> 3:48:20.520 on the outside between him and Rhodes. Who think Xavier 3:48:20.600 --> 3:48:22.240 Rhodes is one of the most underrated players in the 3:48:22.400 --> 3:48:27.680 entire NFL. He's probably a top five corner, Well, guess 3:48:27.720 --> 3:48:30.400 who's back on the clock. Yep, it would be the 3:48:30.440 --> 3:48:34.480 New England Patriots at thirty one, and I basically jumped 3:48:34.560 --> 3:48:36.760 up on the table. I'd be surprised that they pick here. 3:48:36.800 --> 3:48:38.480 To be honest, you think they're gonna back out of 3:48:38.520 --> 3:48:40.119 the picks in the first round and they don't trade 3:48:40.200 --> 3:48:43.160 either one, I'd I'd be surprised. A couple that with 3:48:43.320 --> 3:48:46.520 the fact that everybody in the world expects Philly to 3:48:46.560 --> 3:48:48.920 trade out of thirty two. So you think you get 3:48:49.000 --> 3:48:51.600 back to back trades out of the first round. Who's 3:48:51.640 --> 3:48:54.760 trying to I mean if somebody wanted to trying to 3:48:54.800 --> 3:48:57.160 get the fifth year option. We talk about the guys 3:48:57.200 --> 3:48:59.879 that are still available on my board. I look at 3:49:00.240 --> 3:49:05.520 Harold Landry, Lamar Jackson, James Daniels, and Will Hernandez. Those 3:49:05.560 --> 3:49:07.640 will be guys I've talked about Connor Williams. Those will 3:49:07.680 --> 3:49:10.680 be kind of five guys that I would think. You know, 3:49:10.960 --> 3:49:14.880 the Patriots, they have the opportunity. There's three basically, there's 3:49:14.920 --> 3:49:19.320 a center and two guards and the potential tackle if 3:49:19.400 --> 3:49:21.840 that's what you wanted to wanted to do right there. 3:49:21.880 --> 3:49:25.880 So Harold Dandry's still sitting there staring them in the face. Yeah, 3:49:26.240 --> 3:49:29.760 and so you know, so maybe there was more more 3:49:29.840 --> 3:49:32.600 injury stuff than uh, you know, we know about you know, 3:49:32.680 --> 3:49:35.120 we know that what's plagued him throughout his senior year. 3:49:36.000 --> 3:49:38.640 You hope not, you hope, uh there's you know, medically 3:49:38.680 --> 3:49:41.120 he was cleared. But maybe that is part of the 3:49:41.200 --> 3:49:43.800 reason why he's sliding a little bit here. Yeah, I 3:49:43.920 --> 3:49:45.960 can't think of any I mean, okay, I hear you, 3:49:46.240 --> 3:49:48.320 I hear you loud and clear about the run defense. 3:49:48.480 --> 3:49:52.200 But that can't that can't be the reason why he's 3:49:52.240 --> 3:49:54.520 in danger of falling out of the first round. That alone, 3:49:54.600 --> 3:49:56.960 I mean, and I know this is a bad example 3:49:57.000 --> 3:50:01.360 because he didn't pan out, but our kevious main went six. Overall, 3:50:01.560 --> 3:50:03.880 he was the size of a bean stock. Maybe teams 3:50:03.920 --> 3:50:07.680 are learning, maybe, but I when you see a guy 3:50:07.800 --> 3:50:10.000 that can bend the way Harold Landry can, it's kind 3:50:10.040 --> 3:50:13.760 of I mean, it's very surprising that he tested well 3:50:13.880 --> 3:50:16.560 to you know, so the testing numbers matched the tape 3:50:17.120 --> 3:50:20.360 in that respect. But again, if you're a liability versus run, 3:50:20.760 --> 3:50:23.520 teams will find you, you know, and they will run 3:50:23.560 --> 3:50:26.400 it right down your throat. Boston college kids are good players, 3:50:26.440 --> 3:50:28.600 though every time they've ever drafted and they've been good. 3:50:29.000 --> 3:50:32.440 Not questioning his toughness, not questioning you know, his competitive 3:50:32.520 --> 3:50:35.600 drive will to be good. I'm not questioning any of that. 3:50:35.720 --> 3:50:39.280 It's just physical limitations for a guy that's really there 3:50:39.320 --> 3:50:41.440 are several linebackers that are bigger than him, and so 3:50:41.640 --> 3:50:44.080 that's just, you know, this is how things are. He 3:50:44.120 --> 3:50:47.240 doesn't have the other body's strength to uh turn blockers, 3:50:47.320 --> 3:50:49.640 to overwhelm at the point of attack. This is not 3:50:49.720 --> 3:50:52.560 who he is. But at the same time, I'm with you, guys, 3:50:52.600 --> 3:50:54.760 I'm still surprised that he is available at this point. 3:50:55.040 --> 3:50:57.360 The past, what he can do as a pass rusher, 3:50:57.400 --> 3:50:59.400 that type of production should have had him off the 3:50:59.480 --> 3:51:02.280 drive off the board by now. There's too much Is 3:51:02.280 --> 3:51:04.880 there too much value? Again? You mentioned Landry and and 3:51:05.120 --> 3:51:07.840 that's good, but there's just too much value right now 3:51:08.120 --> 3:51:11.000 for Lamar Jackson. It's just too much. It just as 3:51:11.040 --> 3:51:14.560 a just as a weapon, clearly not just a weapon. 3:51:14.680 --> 3:51:17.680 Let me ask you real quick if Lamar Lamar Jackson 3:51:17.720 --> 3:51:19.520 and an agent, you think things would be different right now? 3:51:20.000 --> 3:51:22.920 Do you think that plays the partle with with visits, 3:51:23.040 --> 3:51:25.800 with workouts with it, I mean teams. Do you think 3:51:25.840 --> 3:51:29.560 this team team said they couldn't get in contact with them. 3:51:29.720 --> 3:51:32.440 They couldn't you know, to try to set up workouts 3:51:32.480 --> 3:51:34.280 and then they can't get in contact with I mean, 3:51:35.160 --> 3:51:38.040 who knows. Maybe things are different if he had an agent. 3:51:38.680 --> 3:51:42.200 You can't rule that out completely. I don't think I 3:51:42.400 --> 3:51:45.080 buy it again like that, if you if you can 3:51:45.160 --> 3:51:48.600 do your job well, the NFL finds you, you know. Yeah, 3:51:49.000 --> 3:51:51.960 but maybe for a few teams that were considering him 3:51:51.960 --> 3:51:54.200 in the first round, uh, you know, if they're worried that, 3:51:54.640 --> 3:51:57.160 you know, who's you know, who's whispering in his ear? 3:51:57.720 --> 3:52:00.080 You know what kind of brain trust does he have 3:52:00.240 --> 3:52:03.360 behind him to you know, is it's just something to consider. 3:52:03.640 --> 3:52:05.440 H Yeah, for part of the reason why he's falling 3:52:05.480 --> 3:52:07.560 a little bit. So it's who else has left in 3:52:07.640 --> 3:52:13.200 the green room besides him and Shaq Griffin. There was Conilliams, 3:52:13.640 --> 3:52:17.360 them that were invited. Connor Williams was the vast majority 3:52:17.400 --> 3:52:19.640 of them have been picked. But also going back to 3:52:19.720 --> 3:52:22.360 Brian's point from an hour or so ago, New England's 3:52:22.400 --> 3:52:24.760 pick is in and Lamar Jackson was not on the 3:52:24.800 --> 3:52:29.240 phone just now, so that doesn't sound likely. I'm surprised 3:52:29.280 --> 3:52:31.360 New England's picking to be honest. I mean they Bill 3:52:31.440 --> 3:52:35.040 Belichick moves up, moves down. He rarely stays put, especially 3:52:35.040 --> 3:52:37.320 with two picks in the first round. Speaking of learning, 3:52:37.480 --> 3:52:39.360 maybe he learned that at some point you need to 3:52:39.400 --> 3:52:43.200 add talent to your team. Yeah, all those Super Bowls 3:52:43.240 --> 3:52:46.160 are really wearing on him. Hey, hey, I'm not hating 3:52:46.320 --> 3:52:48.520 because I mean, obviously the Patriots can do whatever they want. 3:52:48.520 --> 3:52:52.480 They've won five freaking super Bowls. But I mean, you 3:52:52.600 --> 3:52:54.960 got a draft guys at some point, right, Like it's 3:52:55.000 --> 3:52:57.400 the same thing with Cleveland not getting cute at four. 3:52:57.560 --> 3:52:59.840 At some point, just add some talent to your roster, 3:53:00.240 --> 3:53:03.040 especially if you're running up on the end of your 3:53:03.080 --> 3:53:05.680 Hall of Fame quarterbacks career, which that day is going 3:53:05.720 --> 3:53:09.400 to be here eventually. Well, the pick has been in 3:53:09.520 --> 3:53:12.440 for a while now, we're just waiting for the commissioner 3:53:12.520 --> 3:53:16.200 to walk to the podium and give it. David's right. 3:53:16.600 --> 3:53:19.840 Lamar Jackson was not on the phone, but the commissioner's walking, 3:53:20.000 --> 3:53:35.600 so let's go hear him talking. Wow, nice, nice one. Ah, 3:53:40.360 --> 3:53:44.120 Tony Michelle, the running back from the University of Georgia. 3:53:44.320 --> 3:53:48.440 I have two thoughts. Yeah, I'll let y'all. First of all, 3:53:48.680 --> 3:53:51.040 New England just gets whatever they want, like they just 3:53:51.200 --> 3:53:54.120 they can. They get nice things out the wazoo too. 3:53:55.040 --> 3:53:57.600 Can't believe Darius Guys is going to be the fourth 3:53:57.720 --> 3:54:00.720 running back. Well, Matt, maybe I can't believe rerunning backs 3:54:00.760 --> 3:54:03.840 went off the board before Darius Guys. He's not getting 3:54:03.920 --> 3:54:07.320 drafted to Night unless he goes to Philly here at 3:54:07.360 --> 3:54:10.360 thirty two, but I know people have been mocking him there. Yeah, 3:54:10.560 --> 3:54:16.320 they have so interesting pick here with Sony Michelle. You 3:54:16.400 --> 3:54:18.040 think of him as an every down back. You feel 3:54:18.040 --> 3:54:21.160 comfortable leaving him on the field and third downs. He's 3:54:21.160 --> 3:54:25.480 a true north South guy, grinder, balanced, He can help 3:54:25.520 --> 3:54:27.880 you out in the passing game as both a blocker 3:54:27.920 --> 3:54:30.880 and receiver. Needs to work on the fumbles, needs to 3:54:31.200 --> 3:54:33.760 improve his ball security, but he's just an all around 3:54:33.840 --> 3:54:36.680 good player. I think you feel I'm a little surprised 3:54:36.760 --> 3:54:39.760 New England took him here, but I think this is 3:54:39.800 --> 3:54:43.560 the range, you know, between twenty five and forties where 3:54:43.600 --> 3:54:45.600 we saw him coming off the board. Yeah, this guy's 3:54:45.640 --> 3:54:48.680 a tough runner. Explosive two and through the hole, can 3:54:48.720 --> 3:54:51.160 see it and go stop start, quitness, balance, can run 3:54:51.240 --> 3:54:55.480 through tacklers, outstanding quickness. I mean he finishes from all distance, 3:54:55.560 --> 3:54:59.560 can get insider out. Not many chances for receptions. That's 3:54:59.600 --> 3:55:01.560 something teams are gonna have to But he's a willing 3:55:01.600 --> 3:55:03.440 blocker out on the edge. Will go low and cut 3:55:03.480 --> 3:55:06.440 this guy. But kind of a really well built guy 3:55:06.600 --> 3:55:09.280 when you look at him, kind of square tough, you 3:55:09.360 --> 3:55:11.880 know when when he takes some hits, delivers some blows. 3:55:11.960 --> 3:55:15.800 I I have other running backs ahead of him, But 3:55:16.000 --> 3:55:18.160 I can understand the Patriots Again, they're none of those 3:55:18.200 --> 3:55:20.960 teams that don't give a damn what I think about 3:55:21.040 --> 3:55:23.600 their draft board. I hear what you're saying, but you're 3:55:24.080 --> 3:55:27.600 you're you're loaded. You're damn near guarantee to be in 3:55:27.640 --> 3:55:30.040 the AFC title game as long as Tom Brady's healthy. 3:55:30.720 --> 3:55:33.440 I'm really surprised about Lamar Jackson there. But this is 3:55:33.760 --> 3:55:36.240 this is just a fun fricking player, and you're picking 3:55:36.240 --> 3:55:39.040 I mean, you're basically picking in the second round anyway. Yeah, 3:55:39.560 --> 3:55:42.040 I mean I love this pick this. I mean this 3:55:42.280 --> 3:55:44.880 is like, um, who's my guy who should have been 3:55:44.960 --> 3:55:48.400 MVP when they beat Atlanta? James White? Yeah, James White 3:55:48.440 --> 3:55:51.560 on steroids. Yeah, It's like it's the same stuff James 3:55:51.600 --> 3:55:54.600 White can do, but better I think right, so I 3:55:54.760 --> 3:55:57.840 get it. But again, I mean to your point, one 3:55:57.880 --> 3:55:59.920 of these days Tom Brady is gonna be done playing, right, 3:56:00.200 --> 3:56:03.080 So how useful is a gadget back if you don't 3:56:03.120 --> 3:56:06.200 have a quarterback who can get him the ball? Well, 3:56:06.280 --> 3:56:11.000 and with Sonny Michelle, I mean you have to There 3:56:11.040 --> 3:56:12.760 were some teams that had him off the board as 3:56:12.800 --> 3:56:15.680 the Medicals, and so apparently here's a trade. It's one 3:56:15.680 --> 3:56:19.360 of them. Baltimore going to get Lamar. I don't know, man, 3:56:19.480 --> 3:56:22.680 but Dallas got No, it's a Kayan Hurst. Like we said, 3:56:22.760 --> 3:56:25.320 Courtland Sutton. With the amount of dealing Philly has done, 3:56:25.480 --> 3:56:27.800 it seemed Howie Roseman was desperate to get out of 3:56:27.880 --> 3:56:31.480 this pick. He needs some more draft capital. Yeah, well 3:56:31.480 --> 3:56:33.880 it looks like now again, like David and Dane said, 3:56:34.080 --> 3:56:36.920 Baltimore is now on the clock. We are in the 3:56:37.080 --> 3:56:42.240 final pick. That's Baltimore's third trade of tonight. By the way, Ozzie, 3:56:42.240 --> 3:56:44.680 he's going out with a bang. Ozzie's traded more times 3:56:44.720 --> 3:56:46.920 tonight than the Cowboys have in the last like five 3:56:47.040 --> 3:56:49.480 drafts combined. Well, here we are, the Ravens are on 3:56:49.520 --> 3:56:53.200 the clock. I'd be really interested to see what direction 3:56:53.280 --> 3:56:56.800 did they go to with I keep talking about the 3:56:56.920 --> 3:56:59.400 quarterback here. Why would you do this if it wasn't 3:56:59.400 --> 3:57:01.400 for a quarter back? But that's what I said about 3:57:01.560 --> 3:57:03.400 Maybe they're trying what I said about the Saints two 3:57:03.480 --> 3:57:06.680 hours ago. Yeah, well, let's kind of let's reset. Who 3:57:06.760 --> 3:57:08.520 are the some of the guys. We've talked a bunch 3:57:08.560 --> 3:57:12.560 about Harold Landry. They need help on the offensive line. Yeah, 3:57:13.000 --> 3:57:17.520 and they got a choice there, I mean Daniels both 3:57:17.560 --> 3:57:19.880 and then we've also talked about Connor Williams. Yeah, Connor 3:57:19.880 --> 3:57:21.840 Williams is still there. So I mean you're you're looking 3:57:21.880 --> 3:57:24.840 at guys that are potentially uh you know, they need 3:57:24.880 --> 3:57:27.560 a right tackle. Yeah. Um, And so Connor Williams did 3:57:27.640 --> 3:57:29.760 make a ton of sense here. If that's a direction 3:57:29.800 --> 3:57:32.760 they go, I wonder what they gave up, because they 3:57:32.800 --> 3:57:35.480 moved up a good chunk. So they went from the 3:57:35.600 --> 3:57:37.920 they went from them, their second and their third most likely. 3:57:38.160 --> 3:57:41.160 Well let's see, so they're picking and they added Hayden 3:57:41.240 --> 3:57:44.560 Hurst earlier. Yes, right, okay, right, so there isn't Goddard. Yeah, 3:57:44.640 --> 3:57:46.600 they if they if if they went on their spot 3:57:46.680 --> 3:57:50.840 where they're picking is at fifty two. So do you 3:57:50.920 --> 3:57:52.480 think they went on. Do you think that you don't 3:57:52.520 --> 3:57:56.240 think it? Maybe next year's one involved here. Well, I 3:57:56.280 --> 3:57:57.720 don't think they had to. I think they trade their 3:57:57.720 --> 3:57:59.440 second and the third to get here, right, I think 3:57:59.480 --> 3:58:01.920 that would have been enough. Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, you're 3:58:01.960 --> 3:58:03.560 right about that, the second and the third. So the 3:58:03.640 --> 3:58:06.560 second though, if i'm again, there's so many trades. We 3:58:06.600 --> 3:58:08.680 gotta I gotta get my chart right here. I think 3:58:08.760 --> 3:58:11.040 that was the tenth of the night. Yeah, it's close. 3:58:11.160 --> 3:58:13.240 I mean, well, the picks in, we'll figure this all out. 3:58:13.280 --> 3:58:14.920 Baltimore has made so many trades. I gotta get my 3:58:15.000 --> 3:58:18.280 trade chart right again. There comes Roger, Here comes the commiscial. 3:58:18.400 --> 3:58:20.680 This would be the last pick of the night, should 3:58:20.720 --> 3:58:44.280 be hey, well there he goes Lamar Jackson, the very 3:58:44.400 --> 3:58:48.320 talented quarterback from the University of Louisville. Kind of a 3:58:48.400 --> 3:58:52.640 little bit of a saying, remember Teddy Bridgewater, very similar, right, 3:58:52.760 --> 3:58:54.520 that's right. The VIKI straight it up to the last 3:58:54.560 --> 3:58:58.240 pick in the first round, and twenty fourteen NFL Draft 3:58:58.280 --> 3:59:01.640 took Teddy Bridgewater. Here we go with the Ravens trading 3:59:01.760 --> 3:59:04.280 up another another purple team trading to pick thirty two 3:59:04.360 --> 3:59:07.280 to get their quarterback. You're Joe Flacco. You're like, huh, yeah, 3:59:07.400 --> 3:59:12.480 what but too bad? Joe play better? Uh So Lamar Jackson, 3:59:12.560 --> 3:59:15.800 he's going to Baltimore. Aussie. Newsom, in his final first 3:59:15.920 --> 3:59:18.360 round as a general manager, takes Hayden Hurst and then 3:59:18.440 --> 3:59:20.760 trades back in for Lamar Jackson. Kind of like what 3:59:20.840 --> 3:59:23.120 they did. Sure, I mean, I mean because I mean 3:59:23.200 --> 3:59:26.320 I like Lamar Jackson very much in the first round 3:59:26.400 --> 3:59:29.040 then and then Hayden Hurst was my my best tight end. 3:59:29.160 --> 3:59:32.520 So I'm I'm totally okay with with what they with 3:59:32.720 --> 3:59:34.960 what they did right there with the Rays pH Lamar 3:59:35.080 --> 3:59:38.920 Jackson and my draft board. Guess where he was thirty two? Yeah? God, Dan, 3:59:39.040 --> 3:59:41.240 you're so good. We're gonna lose you to an NFL team. 3:59:41.880 --> 3:59:43.960 I love this pick. I mean, anytime you do something 3:59:44.040 --> 3:59:46.440 like this, that's this. This is what the Saints should 3:59:46.480 --> 3:59:49.760 have done. And if Marcus, if Marcus Davenford is Reggie White, 3:59:49.800 --> 3:59:53.000 I'll apologize, but I just I love this. I mean, 3:59:53.040 --> 3:59:55.200 you don't need him to play right now, but he 3:59:55.320 --> 3:59:57.760 could certainly you could certainly find something for him to 3:59:57.840 --> 4:00:00.920 do as a rookie. And this is I know Ozzie 4:00:01.000 --> 4:00:03.120 Newsom is getting ready to retire. But this is one 4:00:03.160 --> 4:00:05.960 of the more stable franchises in the NFL. This is 4:00:06.000 --> 4:00:09.000 a great place for him to develop. Two quarterbacks are 4:00:09.000 --> 4:00:10.800 going to be linked a little bit. Yeah, in the 4:00:10.840 --> 4:00:14.800 AFC North Baker Mayfield went one, absolutely, Lamar Jackson went 4:00:14.840 --> 4:00:18.000 thirty two, the final pick in the first round. Those 4:00:18.040 --> 4:00:21.760 two quarterbacks are going to be compared over the next 4:00:21.800 --> 4:00:24.680 how many years as rookies from this class. One went 4:00:24.920 --> 4:00:26.360 at the first pick, one went the last pick in 4:00:26.400 --> 4:00:28.480 the first round, And we'll see how that plays out. 4:00:29.200 --> 4:00:32.960 Which also going back to my point, he's in the 4:00:33.080 --> 4:00:37.160 AFC where he's only the Cowboys problem. Actually, Baker Mayfield 4:00:37.200 --> 4:00:41.240 and Lamar how many how many quarterbacks drafted tonight are 4:00:41.320 --> 4:00:43.680 going to be the Cowboys problem on a regular basis? 4:00:43.880 --> 4:00:47.520 Any of them? No, not a single one. No, that 4:00:47.880 --> 4:00:51.400 is that's music to my ears. Two years after Carson 4:00:51.480 --> 4:00:54.320 Wentz was drafted into this division. I'm serious. I mean, yeah, 4:00:54.360 --> 4:00:56.760 I didn't want any part of one of those top 4:00:56.880 --> 4:00:59.960 four guys going to New York, and I didn't want 4:01:00.160 --> 4:01:02.600 any part of Lamar Jackson winding up there. Because they're 4:01:02.600 --> 4:01:04.200 picking at the top of the second round. I mean 4:01:04.800 --> 4:01:07.480 that's big stuff. If you're a Cowboys fan in my opinion, 4:01:07.520 --> 4:01:10.320 because one of those multiple of these guys are gonna 4:01:10.400 --> 4:01:12.240 hit and even bigger. If you put your paycheck on 4:01:12.320 --> 4:01:14.200 the over on four and a half quarterback going in 4:01:14.200 --> 4:01:16.640 the first round, you're pretty happy right now. Good. Yeah, 4:01:16.720 --> 4:01:19.480 Baltimore came to your rescue. Yeah, absolutely, you were, you were. 4:01:19.680 --> 4:01:22.000 You were sweating at the very end. Let me go 4:01:22.160 --> 4:01:26.720 back from recap some of these picks. Dane mentioned Baltimore 4:01:26.760 --> 4:01:28.920 at twenty five with a trade to Tennessee from with 4:01:29.080 --> 4:01:32.960 Tennessee took Haydon Hurst. Then Atlanta at twenty six took 4:01:33.040 --> 4:01:38.280 Calvin Ridley, The Seattle Seahawks took Rashad Penny, the running 4:01:38.280 --> 4:01:42.640 back from San Diego State. Pittsburgh took Terrell Edmonds Jacksonville, 4:01:42.800 --> 4:01:48.440 Tevin Bryant, the very talented defensive tackle from Florida. Minnesota 4:01:48.480 --> 4:01:51.600 took Mike Hughes, quarterback from Central Florida, New England, at 4:01:51.640 --> 4:01:55.600 thirty one, Sony Michelle, running back from Georgia, and then 4:01:55.640 --> 4:01:58.680 the final pick of the night to end the first round. 4:02:00.000 --> 4:02:02.960 In this round began at seven oh seven, it ends 4:02:03.120 --> 4:02:07.800 at ten thirty seven, So faster than your average first round. Yeah, 4:02:07.880 --> 4:02:11.840 So Lamar Jackson quarterback. Uh is the final pick the 4:02:12.000 --> 4:02:14.360 Ravens trade to the Philadelphi Eagles. Will get all the 4:02:14.400 --> 4:02:17.160 particulars on that trade. Shut real quick. So you're talking 4:02:17.160 --> 4:02:20.480 about times. Casper in Denmark just tweeted us and said 4:02:20.560 --> 4:02:23.080 he's heading a bed at five thirty five am. Thank 4:02:23.120 --> 4:02:26.520 you very much, Casper. We will be back with you 4:02:26.640 --> 4:02:29.000 tomorrow night for sure on that. Okay, as we u 4:02:29.800 --> 4:02:32.560 we reset the board. Yeah, I want you, Dane. I 4:02:32.680 --> 4:02:36.680 want you to reset what we've got going into tomorrow again. 4:02:36.760 --> 4:02:41.840 The Cleveland Browns, Yeah, we'll be on the clock tomorrow. 4:02:42.240 --> 4:02:44.840 And so they got thirty four and thirty three and 4:02:45.000 --> 4:02:48.560 thirty four thirty five. You're right, Yeah, that's right from Houston, 4:02:48.640 --> 4:02:53.240 the thirty three and thirty five with the giants in between. Uh, Dane, 4:02:53.480 --> 4:02:55.440 kind of reset what you got and I will throw 4:02:55.480 --> 4:02:58.360 out what I have. The top guy available as Harold Landry. 4:02:58.440 --> 4:03:01.000 But I think there's some medicals involved here. Yeah, that 4:03:01.160 --> 4:03:04.640 has to be about I asked. I take that back, 4:03:04.920 --> 4:03:07.280 because I asked about him and he had a high 4:03:07.280 --> 4:03:11.680 ankle spring and the check on the high ankle was okay, 4:03:12.720 --> 4:03:15.560 so maybe more something else going, maybe more, but it 4:03:15.680 --> 4:03:18.760 was a high ankle and I heard things were okay, 4:03:18.920 --> 4:03:23.880 So Cleveland. Cleveland didn't get Bradley Chubb. Harold Landry maybe 4:03:23.960 --> 4:03:28.760 could be nice consolation. Absolutely so Harold Landry's top available. 4:03:29.120 --> 4:03:33.360 James Daniels is two, Maurice Hearst is three, although with 4:03:33.440 --> 4:03:37.080 hers again the medical situation. Four Will Hernandez the guard 4:03:37.120 --> 4:03:41.000 from Utah. Five Darius Geiss running back LSU six, I 4:03:41.040 --> 4:03:44.360 have Ronald Jones USC running back. Seven, Josh Jackson corner 4:03:44.400 --> 4:03:47.280 from Iowa. Dallas Goddard number eight tight end from South 4:03:47.360 --> 4:03:51.040 Dakota State, nine Isaiah Oliver corner from Colorado, and then 4:03:51.120 --> 4:03:55.320 ten Anthony Miller wide receiver Memphis. So if you're the Cowboys, 4:03:55.680 --> 4:03:57.960 you're sitting there. Only two wide receivers came off the 4:03:58.040 --> 4:04:01.640 board in the first round. You start thinking about if 4:04:01.640 --> 4:04:05.640 the Earl Thomas thing, that's not an option right, Think about, shoot, 4:04:05.680 --> 4:04:09.520 did DeMarcus Lawrence, which we talked about, You got your linebacker, 4:04:09.800 --> 4:04:12.080 go get your wide receiver, whether that's Courtland Sutton and 4:04:12.080 --> 4:04:15.200 Anthony Miller. I prefer Anthony Miller. I would not be 4:04:15.320 --> 4:04:17.200 shy trading two and three to move up in the 4:04:17.200 --> 4:04:20.080 second round to get my guy. I really that's something 4:04:20.360 --> 4:04:23.280 I'm circling, and hey, let's target a spot. Then if 4:04:23.280 --> 4:04:25.800 we can, let's pat ourselves on the back because we're 4:04:25.920 --> 4:04:28.200 wrong as hell all the time. But I think we 4:04:28.280 --> 4:04:30.440 said at the top of this that Layton vander Esch 4:04:30.480 --> 4:04:32.920 and Vita Vea or the two names that we felt 4:04:32.960 --> 4:04:36.280 really strongly about going into tonight, and I just sort 4:04:36.360 --> 4:04:39.520 of have if the opportunity presents itself, I wouldn't be 4:04:39.600 --> 4:04:41.920 shocked if the Cowboys use pick eighty one to get 4:04:41.960 --> 4:04:44.200 a receiver they feel, well, let's look at again we've targed. 4:04:44.440 --> 4:04:49.320 When we did the show from Henry's Tavern the other day, 4:04:49.320 --> 4:04:52.840 we talked about the Colts. Yeah, Colt's own pick thirty 4:04:53.440 --> 4:04:57.040 six and thirty seven. Could this be a spot where 4:04:57.080 --> 4:05:00.040 we see them trade up for Courtland Suddon. Let's to 4:05:00.160 --> 4:05:03.040 say thirty seven because it's a cheaper pick. Yeah, so 4:05:03.240 --> 4:05:06.080 that's a thirteen spot jump. Okay, let me talk to 4:05:06.120 --> 4:05:08.800 you about that, David. From fifty to thirty seven. Somebody 4:05:08.840 --> 4:05:10.000 helped me with the Matthew. If you want to go 4:05:10.040 --> 4:05:12.480 to thirty seven, it's five thirty on the pick. Okay, 4:05:12.680 --> 4:05:16.760 for the thirty seven you own four hundred, so one 4:05:16.840 --> 4:05:19.200 hundred and thirty one hundred and thirty. Your third round 4:05:19.240 --> 4:05:22.280 pick at eighty one is worth one hundred and eighty five. Oh, 4:05:22.440 --> 4:05:25.040 it's an overpay. So it's overpay, but it might be 4:05:25.120 --> 4:05:27.120 a situation where you could get them to flip something 4:05:27.200 --> 4:05:30.200 back to you. So you send Tom eighty one and 4:05:30.280 --> 4:05:33.120 they send you. Yeah, we have the whole selection thing 4:05:33.240 --> 4:05:36.200 right here. What if they send you their their next 4:05:36.240 --> 4:05:38.120 pick and the say, their fifth round pick. How many 4:05:38.160 --> 4:05:40.640 points different are we talking days? Well, Indie picks in 4:05:40.720 --> 4:05:44.080 the fifth round at one forty yea, So what's the number. 4:05:44.200 --> 4:05:45.720 What was the number of difference on that? That's only 4:05:45.760 --> 4:05:50.080 worth thirty seven points right there? So that actually that works. 4:05:50.160 --> 4:05:54.880 That's math. That works pretty well. Okay. So so eighty 4:05:54.880 --> 4:05:57.880 one is worth one eighty five, yes, and fifty is 4:05:57.880 --> 4:06:01.240 worth four hundred yes. And you're talking about one hundred 4:06:01.240 --> 4:06:03.840 and thirty points difference, right, So if you get how 4:06:03.880 --> 4:06:06.320 many points for the fifth rounder, for the fifth rounder 4:06:06.440 --> 4:06:09.720 you get for them, it would be thirty seven. So, 4:06:09.880 --> 4:06:11.880 I mean it's still an overpay, but you feel better 4:06:11.960 --> 4:06:14.280 about it. You're gonna so you're making I mean, you're 4:06:14.360 --> 4:06:18.400 overpaying by twenty to thirty points instead of fifty or sixty, 4:06:18.720 --> 4:06:22.840 which that's negligible. Yeah. Absolutely. The thing is is INDI's 4:06:22.840 --> 4:06:24.560 the one with the pick. Are they gonna be willing 4:06:24.600 --> 4:06:26.560 to play ball? Just because that's what the chart says 4:06:26.600 --> 4:06:28.120 you should do, It doesn't mean you have to. Because 4:06:28.160 --> 4:06:30.240 we saw what happened Oakland bail. They should have got 4:06:30.320 --> 4:06:32.400 a two and a five for their drop back, right, 4:06:32.520 --> 4:06:34.000 and then they got a three and of five right. 4:06:34.040 --> 4:06:37.080 And that's so if people sleeping on their boards tonight, 4:06:37.280 --> 4:06:39.840 you know, Dane just gave you ten names, you go back. 4:06:40.000 --> 4:06:42.640 I just you go back to DeMarcus Lawrence. The Cowboys 4:06:42.720 --> 4:06:45.880 overpaid because they thought he was the last guy in 4:06:46.000 --> 4:06:48.760 the draft that fit their criteria for what they wanted. 4:06:48.920 --> 4:06:52.680 So if that's how they feel about Courtland Sutton or 4:06:52.840 --> 4:06:55.000 we'll say Anthony Miller too, if that's how they feel, 4:06:55.400 --> 4:06:57.760 they'll they'll overpay if they think it's going to get 4:06:57.800 --> 4:06:59.440 the job done for the guy that they have to have. 4:07:00.080 --> 4:07:03.240 D rather that they go get Courtland Sutton or Will Hernandez, 4:07:04.080 --> 4:07:08.280 Oh will Hernandez Rnandez still sitting there, Yeah, I would 4:07:08.320 --> 4:07:12.120 get her. Just play that game. How about James Daniels? Yeah? Whatever, 4:07:12.720 --> 4:07:14.520 I think there must be a medical thing with Daniels. 4:07:14.960 --> 4:07:17.200 Jeff Jeff Kavanaugh would shut the hell up real quick 4:07:17.240 --> 4:07:19.600 if they did that. Huh, get your linebacker and your 4:07:19.640 --> 4:07:22.440 offensive line right. Uh. In my my report on him, 4:07:22.720 --> 4:07:26.600 he underwent right knee surgery before the two sixteen season, 4:07:26.800 --> 4:07:30.800 had torn meniscus. Uh, you want miss some time ten 4:07:30.960 --> 4:07:32.760 seventeen with a nice sprain. You just wonder if maybe 4:07:32.800 --> 4:07:35.800 the knee was red flag. We'll see, okay, all right, 4:07:36.000 --> 4:07:40.320 just real okay, So will Hernandez and James Daniels, Courtland 4:07:40.360 --> 4:07:44.480 Sutton and Anthony Miller. Yeah, um, thank you, DJ Charks 4:07:44.480 --> 4:07:48.000 probably and then Dark and absolutely totally dismissed them. Can't 4:07:48.040 --> 4:07:52.520 totally dismiss Christian Kirk for that matter. Sure, um, anybody 4:07:52.560 --> 4:07:55.000 else we're forgetting. Tell you what, whenever a show to morrow, 4:07:55.040 --> 4:07:56.800 We're all right, you're right, let's not give away the 4:07:57.120 --> 4:07:59.240 Yeah wait wait, I'm gonna give away you guys are 4:07:59.240 --> 4:08:01.800 going in some great I'm just I'm just excited, ya, 4:08:02.120 --> 4:08:03.720 I'm just I love it. I love it, and I 4:08:03.760 --> 4:08:05.440 want to see what they do well that is, yeah, 4:08:05.480 --> 4:08:07.160 that will be. That's gonna be a rap for tonight. 4:08:07.280 --> 4:08:11.800 Then again, the Dallas Cowboys at nineteen overall. Take Layton Vanderish, 4:08:12.440 --> 4:08:16.840 the linebacker from Boise State. We'll have reports and analysis 4:08:16.920 --> 4:08:19.000 up on Dallas Cowby nights. Just getting started. We're just 4:08:19.040 --> 4:08:22.280 getting started here. You're absolutely right. Tomorrow we will have 4:08:22.480 --> 4:08:25.000 a draft show, a special draft show at one o'clock, 4:08:25.520 --> 4:08:27.120 so we'll go from one to two. We'll kind of 4:08:27.200 --> 4:08:30.880 talk reset, reset, Thursday, we're gonna talk about maybe some 4:08:31.000 --> 4:08:35.000 trade possibilities, kind of just rehash some things. Maybe feel 4:08:35.080 --> 4:08:36.880 like that at some directions that maybe some of these 4:08:36.920 --> 4:08:38.640 teams can go and kind of figure some things out. 4:08:38.680 --> 4:08:42.280 And then tomorrow night draft coverage starts again at six 4:08:42.360 --> 4:08:45.080 o'clock is when the draft opens. We'll be on the 4:08:45.160 --> 4:08:47.960 air at five thirty. Love it. We got a lot 4:08:48.040 --> 4:08:51.560 going on. So for my scouting buddies, Dane Burglar, for 4:08:51.720 --> 4:08:54.760 David Hellman, Brian Brows, Kick Garrison executive producer. I want 4:08:54.800 --> 4:08:57.320 to thank everybody too out there, a lot of folks 4:08:57.400 --> 4:08:59.520 working very hard for to put this on the air. 4:08:59.560 --> 4:09:02.520 We are pre shade everyone here at Dallas Cowboys. It 4:09:02.840 --> 4:09:04.720 works so hard for all the things. We will be 4:09:04.840 --> 4:09:07.160 back tomorrow. We'll have a draft show at one o'clock 4:09:07.720 --> 4:09:10.240 and reset some things and then we'll be back at 4:09:10.280 --> 4:09:14.560 five thirty to start rounds two and three, so already 4:09:14.600 --> 4:09:16.440 have a good evening and we'll see you then