1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to this bonus episode of 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Work in Progress. For this episode, I thought it would 3 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: be fun. Well, we thought it would be fun to 4 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: flip the script, and honestly, once the idea was floated 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: at it was just taken and I was put in 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: the hot seat. And I am now a guest on 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: my own show. So this is interesting if you're asking 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: as a longtime listener who knows me, Yes, my palms 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: are sweaty and it's fine. Today I'm work in progress. 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: We are going to answer some questions and see what 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: this whole show looks like from the outside in. Because 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: my two best friends, my sistras, my roommates, my pals 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Jenny Smarta Vanessa Magos are here. They've hijacked the mics 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: and wish me luck. I had so much fun with 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: them on our first episode, and so many of you 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: asked for them to come back. So we've heard you. 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: They're here, and we had such a good conversation that 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: we've actually decided to break this up into two episodes. 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a lot of t being spilled. 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: What do you want for me? Look for part two 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: of this next month on one dree plus and buckle 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: up because Part one starts now. Guys, welcome back to 23 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: work in progress. Okay, thanks for having us. It's pretty exciting. 24 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: We're having a margarita. I think this is going to 25 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: get spicy. It's a beautiful margarita too. You see why 26 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to marry him? Yeah, yes, huge, big huge news. 27 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Use news the world, use news, you right, I like them. 28 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: Just can't stop staring at that ring. I mean, it's 29 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: also like kind of funny. I was having a conversation 30 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: with some friends today about how I've relentlessly kept my 31 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: private life private for almost twenty years and how like 32 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: interesting and fun it is to actually share a thing, 33 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, oh, wow, this is fun 34 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: because my friends don't have to keep secrets and everybody 35 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: just gets to party. I actually was like when I 36 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: saw the like, you know, time period between when like 37 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: we found out and the world, I was actually just like, oh, 38 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: this is like a cool, fun, like public thing. Like 39 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: by the way, my parents send all their love, they're 40 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: very excited. Yeah, but I was shocked and also super 41 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: happy that you felt comfortable and happy to share it 42 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: and to own it. That's the other thing like I 43 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: was like, also gets to own this moment instead of 44 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: it being like is that a rock on Sofia Bush's finger? 45 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: Like engaged the questions and stuff, but no, we talked 46 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: about it last week. I feel like being able to 47 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: share it in a way that where you're finally like, oh, 48 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: I get to share my joy with other people, and 49 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: like you're allowed to do that. And I think that like, 50 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: especially in the role you're in, you constantly have to 51 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: like think about those things where other people don't necessarily 52 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: have to. And it's I think, as your friend, it 53 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: was so exciting to get to be excited with you 54 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: in that way. You know, yeah, that felt so fun. 55 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: I think what's interesting too is really being able to 56 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: understand that. The reason I think for me and for 57 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: so many of our friends who do you know what 58 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: I do, that it can be really difficult is that 59 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: if you're a guy and you're like dating, you're experiencing 60 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: your life, you're figuring it out. People go like, good 61 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: for him. And as a woman, if you date and 62 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: you see what you're looking for and you and you 63 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: have really or you work on having I suppose really 64 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: high standards, people go like, what's she doing? And they're 65 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: so judgmental, and so I just learned a long long 66 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: time ago did not tell anybody about what I was doing. 67 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: And and it was really fun to be like, oh no, 68 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm not testing something out, I'm not dating to see 69 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: if this is what I want. I I know what 70 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: I want. This is my person. And once you've made 71 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: a you know, decision that is that large, it's like, well, yeah, 72 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: then why wouldn't I tell people? It was fun to 73 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: have it be so joyful. I didn't know how freeing 74 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: it would feel. And it was really fun that everyone 75 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: else got to celebrate rather than like, I feel like 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: all of you guys like my my most trusted circle. 77 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: We've been a little bit of a football team. It's 78 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: like block, don't let anybody in. And now it's like 79 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: it's like and no one's hanging on or like letting 80 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: slip a secret that exactly, and you want to make 81 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: sure that like are we allowed to say this or yeah, yeah, 82 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: it's really it's very fun, But it was. It was 83 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: actually very cute because I am there. There is a 84 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: video from us getting engaged, and we haven't shared that 85 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: because that's for us. I mean, we shared obviously with 86 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: all of you. But it's uns special, Like I truly 87 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: I can't believe the level of perfect planning that he did. 88 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: You know, I grew up like the daughter of a photographer, 89 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: like imagery is my love language. And I send it 90 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: to obviously to our parents, and my mom was like, 91 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: can I send this to your aunt? Or is that bad? 92 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: Maybe I should, like it's just so cute. Maybe don't 93 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: like put that out in the world. So we gets 94 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: something that's for us. But it's it's very fun, it's gorgeous. 95 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: It is a commercial. What's going on over there? Um? 96 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: So we I don't know. We're taking the reins, Okay, 97 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: I just need the audience, the audience, the listener ship. 98 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: Our listeners are are whip smarties to understand that I 99 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: have no idea what we're doing. I just know it's 100 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: like Part two with with my cistras, Like roommates are 101 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: back together even now we all live with our significant others. 102 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: Someday we'll retire to a farm together. We'll be fine. 103 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know what we're doing. What are we doing? 104 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: We're taking it from Yeah, we're actually from now on, sorry, 105 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: guys and Jenny, even us are taking it over, but 106 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: we're reflecting. You've obviously a lot has happened since we 107 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: did our first interview with you, you know, our first 108 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: official interview with you. If you think about it, though, 109 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: it's crazy to see like how much of the podcast 110 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: has grown, and like how much has come of in 111 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: what it's like been for you in your life. And 112 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: it's been so incredible to see all the people that 113 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: you've impacted through it as well. So it's been so 114 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: exciting and we're so proud of you. Um. But now 115 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: we get to ask you questions, which is so fun. UM. 116 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: So I'm going to jump right in. So obviously, you know, 117 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: you interact with public figures and celebrities on in your 118 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: daily basis, like me and Vanessa. Um. But outside of us, 119 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: have there been any guests on work in Progress that 120 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: you have been start struck by? Oh my god, I 121 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: mean yes. I let me tell you what. When I 122 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: interviewed Hillary Clinton and the zoom opened and she went, Hi, Sophia, 123 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: I was like, that's it. Take me now. I'm just 124 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: my heart has exploded. It's over. I was like, who 125 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: do I think I am? That this incredible like feminist 126 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: icon who, by the way, has dealt with more abusive 127 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: bullshit than anyone. It's just like, hey girl, I was like, 128 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: this is I think it was like as big a 129 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: deal as if like if you're listening Beyonce, come on 130 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: the show, if we ever get Beyonce, and she's like, 131 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: I really like your podcast. I think I would spontaneously 132 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: can bust and I just hold the mic for her 133 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: the whole time. I'm shaking now, just like I would 134 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: actually be unconscious enough at the end of bag Man. 135 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm sad I missed that though I was on the 136 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: floor that I while I interviewed. So yeah, like that 137 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: was a really big deal. Interviewing Dr Kendy, you know 138 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: Ebra Max Kendy, who wrote How to Be an Anti Racist, 139 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: Like he is an academic icon. Like yes, look, there's 140 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: actors who I idolize and admire, and there's you know, 141 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: musicians who I think are so cool that for me, 142 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: like my rock stars are academics. And to have him 143 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: come on this show and actually offer me feedback about it, 144 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, your publicist like didn't 145 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: just put you on the show. You came here and 146 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: you listened to episodes, like you wrote a New York 147 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: Times bestseller that's changing the landscape of of sort of 148 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: American you know, identity and empathy and like, Hi, it 149 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: took me and like a good twenty minutes of talking 150 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: to him to stop sweating. I really do get very deeply. 151 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: I think. So cool to see as your friend too, 152 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: is that you get this excited for every guest you 153 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: have on you know, like I feel like anytime I'm 154 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: talking to you and you say what you're doing for 155 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: thus day and you're like, oh, I get to interview 156 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: this person, you know, or I can't believe Glora's Stina 157 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: texted me, you know, like you do like a fan girl, 158 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: and it's like it's really I love it because there's 159 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: every person like is exciting to you in a different 160 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: way and they all bring something different to the table. 161 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: And I think that's it's so fun about it. You know, 162 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: I've never gotten over it. No, You're like, I get 163 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: to do this, like this is my job, you know, 164 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: any time shows up. I'm like really, And actually, Jenny, 165 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: it's funny because you I remember, oh, my god, our 166 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: favorite party of the year. I was going to bring 167 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: it up, having a moment like freaking out because we 168 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: saw someone we were obsessed with and you were like, 169 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: you need to get it together. You are famous, you 170 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: cannot react like this, and I was like, but I 171 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: don't feel that way, and I think I'm never going 172 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: to get over it, and I don't know, I don't 173 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: know if I ever will, but it's okay. But it's 174 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: like I also will say, but you have the space 175 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: to not get over it for me, And that moment, 176 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: I was like, get your ship together, because I want 177 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: to meet this person, and you're my way in because 178 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: if I went up and was acting a fool, they'd 179 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: be like, why is this person allowed in here? But 180 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: like with You're like, hello, I'm a totally normal person 181 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: that you can trust and have a conversation with. You 182 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: also always win the night, Like we leave and people 183 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: are like, your friend is the best. I'm like, honestly, 184 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know, trust I try very hard. Well done, man, 185 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: You actually don't try hard. You just are yourself. But 186 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: you are like the fact that you don't run like 187 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: the Television Academy is so weird to me because you 188 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: know more about TV than anyone and so you can 189 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: talk to anyone in the room and like sure they 190 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: don't overtly go like, oh, I know her, except that 191 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: they do because you have a weirdly familiar face and 192 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: everyone thinks they're your best friend. They're like, we went 193 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: to high school together, and they're like, I promise we 194 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: didn't you guys. This is a funny thing about Jenny 195 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: Smart is that everyone who's ever met her isssu or 196 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: they know her already. It is that like it was 197 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: like kind of funny at first. I'm like, I don't 198 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: even know how to have the conversation anymore. Like we 199 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: definitely have never met. I don't know how to respond 200 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: to that, but like, no, you don't know me. You're 201 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: like everyone, I'm sure, I promise I didn't grow up. 202 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: You've never It's not it's definitely not. It's not me. 203 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: But it is really fun because like we go to 204 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: things and by the end of the night, everyone's like, 205 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: it's so nice to meet you and ship your friend 206 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: is so cool, like I know my friends at the 207 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: bost Oh my gosh, I'm blushing. And also we do 208 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: have a very good time. We know how to go 209 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: to that event. Yeah, I will say, like we have 210 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: a really good time in Vanessa. Your spiritual gift is 211 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: to be so unfazed because I'm freaking out and saying 212 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: growing and Jenny is yelling at me to get my 213 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: ship together, because while she's not having a like outward response, 214 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: she's very excited to ask someone about like, you know, 215 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: Season two, episode four, what were the writers thinking, Like 216 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: she has all the details and you are like cool 217 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: as a cucumber, and you just moved through the room 218 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: like a slow motion gazelle. And everyone's like, we want 219 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: to talk to her, and we're both running behind you 220 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: being like this is great and you managed to pull 221 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: it all together. I'm realizing in this moment where a 222 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: bit like a spider web, like we couldn't hold up 223 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: if we weren't all here, so cute. I love that. 224 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: Whoever thought I would have an endearing metaphor about a 225 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: spider honestly? But here we are, Here we are. Um, 226 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this one with us and then you 227 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: can take the next one, only because I feel like 228 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: it plays into what we're just talking about and how 229 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: much I love television and television characters. So I'm gonna 230 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: ask you, Sophia, of the characters you have gotten to play, 231 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: who is your favorite of all time? And after that piggybacking, 232 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: what is the character from stage of screen that you 233 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: love to take a crack at? Okay, Um, you know 234 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: it's tricky because I would say there are like episodes, 235 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: there are moments of things I got to do playing 236 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: Brooke Davis, and I'm like, oh, that's everything. You know. 237 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: There were as like a geeky, you know, girl who 238 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: loves stunts and grew up being like such a rough 239 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: and tumble tomboy. There were moments playing Aaron Lindsay where 240 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: I would get to do some badass stunt sequence and 241 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: I was just like, fuck, yeah, this is the funnest day. 242 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe this is my job. I would say, 243 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: like one off if it was like, oh, just drop in, 244 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: drop out, because it's hard to pick when you've played 245 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: someone for years and years and years. But truly like 246 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: a a one off moment. I would say playing Alexandria 247 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: on Easy on Netflix was the most fun because we 248 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: got to improv, and that for me, I'm so obsessive 249 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: about language, so I can get really like almost almost 250 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: almost like my obsessive compulsive stuff can come out, you know, 251 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: my sort of like little anxious person brain can come out, 252 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: when I'm really trying to be word perfect in a script. 253 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: So interestingly, like the freedom I found studying a person 254 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: and coming up with a character like inside and out, 255 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: but then having like an outline of a scene, no script, 256 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: and just being able to throw stuff at the wall. 257 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: It was so fun. And you know, Jacqueline to Bony 258 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: is like the most amazing scene partner, and actually it's 259 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: really funny. We um we got engaged twenty four hours apart, 260 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: Grant and I and Jacqueline and her fiancee Cass. It 261 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: was insane. We thought it was the same day, and 262 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: then we did the calculats. We were like, no, one 263 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: day apart. But we were all in Italy and the 264 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: four of us went to dinner recently and we were like, 265 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, Cass and I are the same person, 266 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: and Jacqueline and Grant are the same person, Like this 267 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: is so insane. And we were laughing because because we 268 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: were go out of course, we had such amazing like 269 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: on screen chemistry. We were basically like role playing our 270 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: future relationships, and it was it was just the best. 271 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, working as an actor, sure 272 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: people are good at their jobs, but when you're good 273 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: at your job, and then you're working with someone who's 274 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: really good at their job. What you can create, it's 275 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: like you you create like multiples of talent. And I 276 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: feel like we had that and it was really fun 277 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: for me to have it not in something I've been 278 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: doing for a long time, because my brain again like 279 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: my my sort of anxiety, my like inner critic presentation 280 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: is like, well, you've been doing this forever, like you 281 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: know this character better than anyone. Of course you've gotten 282 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: really good at it. But to like drop into a 283 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: place and just be like, oh no, we were really good. 284 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: And it's also a show you were such a fan 285 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: of going into. Yeah, that's another thing that I think 286 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: is so special is that you got to go into 287 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: and be like I'm already obsessed with all of that. Yeah, 288 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: I get to be a part of this son like 289 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: I think about I remember reading about Elizabeth Banks like 290 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: being like I want to be on Modern Family and 291 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: she played like the drunk college friend in one episode 292 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: because she was just such a fan. That's exactly what 293 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: I did with Easy. I was like, this show is 294 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: the best I have to be on it. Literally, I 295 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: don't care. It could be one scene. I just want 296 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: to go play and then we did this full episode 297 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: and it was so fun and yeah, I think I 298 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: think to date that might be one of, if not 299 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: my best kind of moment as an actor. Did not 300 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: see that coming. Well, here we are, and honestly, I 301 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: must say, like to the people listening who are part 302 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: of the community, when like when the memes were just 303 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: like she gives the gays what we want, I was like, 304 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: it was my honor. I did I am to be 305 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: here just a heart attack. But yes, I mean, I 306 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: love your girlfriend and I'm sorry I didn't better prepare her, 307 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: but she was unprepared to her friends naked on screen. 308 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: I will say that, um um. And then the second 309 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: part is what is a character from stage of screen 310 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: that you love to take a crack out? That's a 311 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: great question and I honestly feel like all of us 312 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: should answer that because how fun. Wait, yeah, no, I 313 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: want to know first. You go first. I mean, I, 314 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: oh god, that's so hard because there's like weird there's 315 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: like interesting small you know, movies or things that I 316 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: feel like no one seen Where I Go. I want 317 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: to do that, Like there's multiple roles. Cate Blanchett has 318 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: played Where I Go Oh my god, I would kill 319 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: to have done this movie. And then on the on 320 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: the sort of larger scale, like I just want to 321 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: play a superhero. What are we doing? I was just like, 322 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: I was like, literally, I'm like, I would want to 323 00:17:53,200 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: play Lena Florence obviously kills it. There's no one better. 324 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: But when it comes to a character that it's the 325 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: one be super badass but also be funny and also 326 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: emotionally like connected, it's like, damn, that's such a good character. 327 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: Totally agree the whole time. Obviously we were all together 328 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: the whole time that, like we saw a Black Widow 329 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: that we were sitting watching Black Widow. I was like, oh, 330 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: it's like the roll of a lifetime because it's so funny, 331 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: but then you get to stunt, and I also love 332 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: that it you know, it flips a sort of traditional 333 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: story and especially a comic book universe where for so 334 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: many years women have kind of been objectified and like 335 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: blah blah, everybody knows. But it's this movie that, interestingly, 336 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: I'm realizing in this moment kind of does what like 337 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: Hillary and I got to do on One Tree Hill, 338 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: like these two best friends that are kind of like sisters, 339 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: like we were the love story. It wasn't romantic, but 340 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: we love story really is a love story between these 341 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: two female characters, these sisters, and I would love it. 342 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: But it's like, no one could be Black Widow better 343 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: than Scarlett, no one could be Lena better than Florence. 344 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: We bowed down. She's perfect. So I'm like, who's the 345 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Who's the next woman in that world where I could 346 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: go and be my ultimate like nerdy tomboy self, do stunts, shootguns, 347 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: play games and like getting to my face off because 348 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: it's not easy to have an emotional scene when things 349 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: are exploding, and like, so I would love that, Vanessa, 350 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: who do you want to be? I don't know. I 351 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: honestly don't know. That's too hard for me. I think 352 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: you can jump into their really somebody anyone, favorite movie, 353 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: favorite TV show, favorite character that you're like, damn, like 354 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: that gets you excited. Maybe that's just me being a nerd, 355 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: but like characters get me excited. I I totally get that, 356 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: and I feel the same way. But I've never like 357 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: seen myself in it, I guess in that way fair enough, 358 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't think of one that I 359 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: feel I'm going to come back to you. We'll come 360 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: back to You're going to ruminate on that, and then 361 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: you please take the We're gonna be in the middle 362 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: of a in like thirty minutes, somebody else is going 363 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: to go like that's who it is. Um, oh, we 364 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: kind of I feel like we gott to answer that 365 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: next question. I'm curious. This isn't on here, but I'm 366 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: curious the transition from like the role you play on 367 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: work in progress and like hosting too, then like going 368 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: on set and playing this role and being in a 369 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: completely different thing, Like what is that balance like for you? 370 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: Like jumping back and forth between us. You know what's 371 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: really interesting I thought about this recently. I really love 372 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: my job, like I love being a storyteller, and when 373 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: I really feel connected to a character, like good God, 374 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: I feel so connected to Sam and everything about her 375 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: gives me a way to be expressive more fully as 376 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 1: a person. And I think the thing that's always created 377 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: like a little bit of dissonance for me. I mean, 378 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: look at us, look at our friend group. We know 379 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: each other so deeply, we show up in such like 380 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: truly connected in to midways, Like think about the number 381 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: of people over years who are like, how do I 382 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: create a friend group? Like you're a friend group? And 383 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: we each get that question. So the cognitive dissonance for me, 384 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: the thing that always been really hard is that in 385 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: our inner circles, we we each get to be exactly 386 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: who we are, and then I'll go out in the 387 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: world and people treat me as though what I do 388 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: is who I am, and it makes me feel really reduced. 389 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: And it's often very critical because people are criticizing a product, 390 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: but they treat you, they treat me, they treat entertainers 391 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: like products. It's really hard. It's like very emotionally taxing. 392 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: And what I realized in stepping into the space with 393 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: the podcast, which basically was, Oh, I'm going to take 394 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: every cool activist conversation I'm in in private rooms and 395 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: and let anyone who cares to look unto them listen, 396 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: anyone who wants to like, learn, explore, be challenged, feel challenged, 397 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: like all all of the things. Um, I feel like 398 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: this is a great way to sort of spend the 399 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: privilege of the rooms I'm in. And what I realized 400 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: is it actually enabled me to be more completely myself 401 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: in public because it's not about me, it's about the guests, 402 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: but it's also about empathy and curiosity and a willingness 403 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: to change your mind when you get more information, and 404 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: and it it's not a commodity. It's like it's like 405 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: an intimate space. I genuinely feel like I'm inviting people 406 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: into my living room, and I know what it's done 407 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: for me, and I know what it's done for them. 408 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: And I really feel like it has in the way 409 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: that people meet me now, I feel like they actually 410 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: see me like a human, not like a product. And 411 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 1: so it's like it's crazy because it's it's been so 412 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: incredible for me, and then people tell me how incredible 413 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: it's been for them. You know, people will say I 414 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: didn't know how to talk to my parents about this 415 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: issue until I heard this, and then I asked them 416 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: to listen to this episode with me. Like that's the 417 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: highest compliment of my life. It's so much better than 418 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: someone saying, oh, I like this character you played, which 419 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: is fabulous. No, and you can also do that, and 420 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: that's what's so incredible about what you do is but 421 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: they just look very different, and I think it's been 422 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: so awesome to see because you're probably the smartest person 423 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: I know and truly and the amount of people that 424 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: I know that go to you or go to your 425 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: Instagram or go to your Twitter to educate themselves on 426 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: things because you are actively pursuing people who are actually 427 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: experiencing these things, and you're asking them the questions and 428 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: then you're sharing them with your audience. You know, it's 429 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: like it's so incredible to witness that. But yeah, I 430 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: really do, Like you said, I feel like people are 431 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: actually getting to like the curtain has been lifted and 432 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: they're able to sit down with you, and like what 433 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: that's meant for your fans too? They have gotten to 434 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: follow you and learned from you, and like, even for me, 435 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: you're one of my best friends. But I listened to 436 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: the podcast and I'm like, oh, I learned something today, 437 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: and I learned with you, you know, because I get 438 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: to hear you be like oh, and like that's been 439 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: so so incredible. But do you feel like have you 440 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: have you felt like your fan base is like come 441 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: on that journey with you, and like, really, like I 442 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: learned a lot through those experiences, Like you said, like 443 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: you hear from people being like I had this conversation 444 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: because of that episode, or yeah, I definitely feel like 445 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people have. It's interesting. More recently, I 446 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: feel like it's a little less I feel like getting 447 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: back into work and like are we opening? Are we not? 448 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: What's happening in the world of God to God? Like 449 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: there's so much stress. I feel like people have a 450 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: little less time. But what's actually been interesting in the 451 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks is I've we've gotten messages from 452 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: people saying, you know, things got really hectic and I 453 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: kind of fell off. And then I was feeling really overwhelmed, 454 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: and I went for a walk and I listened. I 455 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: picked up where I left off. I listened to an 456 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: episode and it did this for me. It did that 457 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: for me, and that to me, I'm like, oh my god. 458 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's not lost on me that 459 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: anyone choosing to listen is giving me the gift of 460 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: their time. And I see that this sort of like 461 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: pathway to um a more gentle curiosity and like a 462 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: permission for us to just be together. I know what it. 463 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: I know what it is for me, and I see 464 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: what it's doing for other people, and so I really 465 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: do hope that it's the kind of place that people 466 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: always know they can come home to like that. What 467 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: a what an ending to that question? You know, I 468 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: have some space. That's so nice. Um, I guess this 469 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: is a good question to kind of follow up on 470 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: that one, because it has to be the fans. What 471 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: would be like, you know, the reaction to you and 472 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: what's the most unexpected fan interaction you've ever had? And why? Okay, 473 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: because one is like such a reality check that you know, 474 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: we all have a little bit of imposter syndrome, like 475 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: what is happening? And this is such a rare thing 476 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: that could happen to a human And I still can't 477 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: believe what happened to me. First that I I got 478 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: to be an Incredible too, because I'm the biggest Pixar 479 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: fan on planet Earth and Incredible is my favorite Pixar 480 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: movie ever. And then I did the movie and well, 481 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: I guess it's two fold. Like Brad Bird saying I 482 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: love your voice, will you come be in my movie? 483 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: I was like, hello, what sir? What? Like I couldn't Yeah, 484 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: I was like I couldn't get over. I was also like, 485 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: this was obviously way pre COVID And I was in 486 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: a restaurant on the West Side when I got the 487 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: letter and I started screaming, and like people thought something 488 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: that people like try. I was like, I'm so it's 489 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: really good news. It's good. As I'm screaming, it's going 490 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: to So that was crazy. And when the movie you know, 491 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: was coming out, there were all these exciting things happening 492 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: and there's this big, like incredible event in New York 493 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: um and they asked me if I would go and 494 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: present an award to Brad Bird and I was like, 495 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: this is so nuts. Yes, like okay, And I was like, 496 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: was everyone else busy? Like that was obviously the first thought. 497 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: I was like sure, And I honestly think him and 498 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: his wife were just like she loves this movie so 499 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: much and isn't over it, and everyone else is over 500 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: it because everyone else is like, yes, we do this 501 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: for a living, and I'm career, Like I can't believe 502 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: I get to be here. So I, you know, I 503 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: go out and there's a sometimes at events, you guys know, 504 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: like they have that backstage zone where they do portraits. 505 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: There's like a little photographer comes in and sets up 506 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: a portrait studio because they want to photograph everybody who's 507 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: coming and presenting and attending and blah blah, and I 508 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: went they said, you know, can you come to the 509 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: portrait studio, And so I go back there and I'm like, 510 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: this is cool, and you know, I got to stand 511 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: up really straight and like this dress is really time. 512 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm having all the self conscious bobs, and 513 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: Barry Jenkins is getting photographed and he's just like one 514 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: of the directors I most look up to. I just 515 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: I'm in awe of what he does. And he also 516 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: is in the suit that is so fly, and I'm like, 517 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: very fucking Jenkins. This guy is so cool. So I'm 518 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: just like standing off to the side, probably like why 519 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: died to a big smile on my face, waiting for 520 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: him to be done because then I'm supposed to go. 521 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: And he finishes, and the photographers talking name, Hey, great, thanks, thanks, 522 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: blah blah, and I started walking and I'm like hello, 523 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, um, I'm just gonna high 524 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's so nice to meet you. Um. I 525 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: was like, you know, my name is Sophia, and I 526 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: just I'm so thrilled were it bumping into each other 527 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: in this moment. Barry, I'm such a huge fan of 528 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: Evers and he goes, I am a huge fan of yours. 529 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: I really admire not just your career but what you've 530 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: done with it. Boom, and I literally was like I've 531 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: burst into particles. I don't exist anymore. It was like 532 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: I was so unprepared for that. And we just stood 533 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: there and we were holding because we've been shaking hands, 534 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: and then you know when I was like, Barry Jenkins, 535 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: never let me go. It was incredible, and I realized 536 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: it was weird because I just didn't expect a person 537 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: who I am a fan of to be a fan 538 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: of mine. And I think because I've I've lived most 539 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: of my career on location away from the industry. I 540 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: don't know a lot of people in the industry. I 541 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: have not met a lot of people in the industry. 542 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: It's just like me and the construction guys in the 543 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: grips and like the transport drivers going out for beer. 544 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: It's like going to baseball games, like I don't I 545 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: don't interact with other like Hollywood people, and it it 546 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: really meant a lot to me that he was kind 547 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: enough to take that moment um. So that was like 548 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: a crazy that was a fan interaction with them when 549 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of and I will say that, you know, 550 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: over the years, I've had so many incredible experiences with 551 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: people and the kindness. Um. There's a young woman named 552 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Haley who I've I've now been in touch with for 553 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean, my god, over a decade. When I first 554 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: came to know because she would post about being in 555 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: treatment for really aggressive lime disease. She really went through 556 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: a hard time, and her mom would make these little 557 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: paper doll cutouts of our one tree held characters to 558 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: put on her ivy bag in the hospital, and she 559 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: would tweet about it. And I'm obviously obsessively checking social 560 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: media because I'm just like reading news articles, and I 561 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: would see these things and I was like, God, how cool. 562 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: And then and then her mom was doing it for 563 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: Chicago p D. And then I can't explain it. I 564 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: just felt like this was such a special human and 565 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: we wound up getting in touch and turn out there 566 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: was like an industry she was really passionate about that. 567 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: We had a friend working in Elizabeth Cott, and Elizabeth 568 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: hired her as a summer intern. Because I was just like, 569 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: I can't I don't know, it was just weird. I 570 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: can't explain it, Like there's millions of people who have 571 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: interacted with and every once in a while you go, oh, 572 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm supposed to be here with this person right now, 573 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: And unfortunately I've had the other the flip side of that, 574 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: which is gross. Like we had a girl in North Carolina. 575 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: You weren't there, v but Jenny and I like there 576 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: was a year where there was a girl who was 577 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: like pretending to have cancer so she could come to 578 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: the set of our show. And it was like really 579 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: dark and it really honestly broke my heart and it 580 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: kind of was like I was like, oh, I don't 581 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: want to become a person who doesn't trust people. But 582 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: it like it was like it rocked a lot of 583 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: our worlds because we all kind of went out of 584 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: our way to yeah, like our cast, our crew are producers, 585 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: people really like put themselves on the line to do 586 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: work for someone. And I think interestingly, like you know, 587 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: sweet Haley was like the universe being like, no, don't 588 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: give up, and we're still in touch, and I just 589 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: think the world of her, and and like for a 590 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: person to say I am in a moment of suffering 591 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: and you're helping, like it it cuts really deep, like it. 592 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: It really reminds you of how fortunate you are if 593 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: you can create, whether by interacting or just by making 594 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: something for someone, if you can create respite for anyone. 595 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: And similarly, I had that experience doing USO tours and 596 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: like going to Air Force spaces around the world and 597 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: meeting you know, service members and their families and their kids, 598 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: and and realizing that there's a you know, a network 599 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: that exists just for these places of TV shows and 600 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: like how lucky I m that mine was one so 601 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: I could entertain people who are halfway around the world 602 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: from everyone they love. UM, And yeah, I don't know, 603 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: I've I've really had some unbelievable experiences. But I will say, 604 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: like in the social media age, where it's so deeply 605 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: uncomfortable again to like, hi, Maggie, in case anyone here's jingling, 606 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: that's my dog's collar. It can be so deeply uncomfortable 607 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: to be treated like a thing and not a person. 608 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: People will stick their cameras in your face, and they'll 609 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: take videos of you while you're eating and likes. It 610 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: really affects me being a sensitive person now in this 611 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: like deeply digital age where everything goes on the internet, 612 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: when I meet a person, especially like someone who's holding 613 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: their iPhone in their hands, who just wants to say, hey, 614 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: I loved this. Can I shake your hand? And then 615 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: they leave and I'm like, oh, they didn't. They didn't 616 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: ask for a picture, they didn't ask for like a story. 617 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: They didn't ask me to like FaceTime their sister by 618 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: the way, which can all be nice, but when someone 619 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: says no, I don't want something from you, I just 620 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: want to tell you something and then leave, it's like 621 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: it startles me every time it happens, and every time 622 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: it happens, I'm like, you're so nice. It's refresh, yeah, 623 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: because it's just like it's an interaction for us, it's 624 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: not an interaction for anything or anyone else. And it's 625 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: definitely made me full circle in moments like shaking hands 626 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: with Barry Jenkins, be like, don't ask him for a selfie. 627 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: We're not doing that. We're just gonna shake hands and 628 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: at the moment. Granted, I'm talking about it on the 629 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: podcast and Barry, if you're listening, you're perfect. But it's 630 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: even reminded me of like when I meet my idols, 631 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: to just be in the moment, and so I'm actually 632 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: really grateful, Like I don't I don't know if the 633 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: people who have done that for me thought like I'm 634 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: teaching her a lesson, but they have, and it's been 635 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: Really it's a thing I'm really grateful for. Yeah, I 636 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: love that. It's a really long answer to your question, 637 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: but I haven't. But I think it's a good one. 638 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: I think I think that's a great response to that 639 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: kind of a question, because, like I've been with you 640 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: for a lot of interactions, some good, some not so great, 641 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, some really funny. I actually just remembered the 642 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: other day the Kilman's Night, and I started laughing so 643 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: hard because like that it was so wild in so 644 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: many ways, and like it would end up being totally fine, 645 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: but it was like a situation once again where like 646 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: I had been around Sophia long enough to see a 647 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: lot of people are well intentioned, but like you said, 648 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: forget that you're human beings. So a lot of the 649 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: times it's like you can't see them for some reason, 650 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: when they're like you're standing right in front and they're 651 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: like point at you, were like scream about you were 652 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: like take out their phone. And in this one moment, 653 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: it was like I snapped for the first time, and 654 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: we were in line getting ice cream and like maybe 655 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: like five people ahead or behind us spotted Sophia, which 656 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: is very exciting, and they got very excited, but instead 657 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: of just coming over and saying hi, they just started 658 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: like pointing at her like truly like they were at 659 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: the zoo and they saw like an endangered like species. 660 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: And I literally lost it and I just like went 661 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: crazy and like pointed right back, like very intensely, like 662 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: she's right here, guys, like you found her. Like just 663 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: was like it was super but end up being like 664 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: a very fun good time. But like that was probably 665 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 1: my first time that I was like, oh, this isn't 666 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: this is just like NonStop and wild, and it was 667 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: kind of also I think a wake up call probably 668 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: for them to be like, oh, yeah, like she has 669 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: eyes and also has the ability to hear and see us, 670 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: and we should probably treat her like a person. Um. 671 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: I also love that You're like I went crazy. I'm like, 672 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: you were so funny and polite, but you did you 673 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: just like kind of like doing the cartoon for what 674 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: they were doing and being like, oh my god, she's right. 675 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: It was like it was like the prices right, and 676 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: everyone wound up laugh It was like a great time. 677 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: Really diffused it well, but I was very I was 678 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: very amused and grateful in that moment. And I will say, like, 679 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: shout out to kill Wins because it's my favorite shop 680 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: in Wilmington's and the people who worked there, we were 681 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: all on a first name basis because I went almost 682 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: every day, and they they were like we looked up 683 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: and realized all our friends who were like serving ice 684 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: cream and making the waffle cones were like dying laughing. 685 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: And it just turned into a thing where everyone was laughing. 686 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: And I've certainly had interactions with people that haven't turned 687 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: into something funny. And you really made everybody laugh well. 688 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: So at the end it's like everyone got pictures. We 689 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: all said hello, but it was like I just I 690 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know why. I just couldn't 691 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: at that moment, couldn't hand. I like lost my mind 692 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: a little bit, and I was like, this is wild 693 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: because you don't you don't. Actually, I will say, like, 694 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 1: you don't realize how weird it feels until it happens 695 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: to you. And I certainly understand there's probably people listening 696 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: rolling their eyes being like oh yeah, but it's that bad. 697 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: But when it happens to you, you're like, oh, this 698 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: is actually really really weird and uncomfortable, uncomfortable. And I 699 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: didn't understand that this would be uncomfortable until I experienced it, 700 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: and so it was kind of cool in that moment. 701 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: If you be like I can't handle it. I was like, cool, 702 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: it's not just me, it's not And listen, I've been 703 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: in the other I've been the other person. I mean, 704 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought we understand like I've definitely frozen. 705 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't say I have like been quite 706 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: as like outlandish with like but like we all think 707 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: we're being coy of being like, oh my god, look 708 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: over there. It's like it's so and so and then 709 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: the other person. Like you have those moments you just 710 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: want to be respectful. I mean, I I was seated 711 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: next to Beyonce J and Blue at lunch one day 712 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: and I blacked out, like, I don't know, I haven't 713 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: ordered I ordered lemonade. I've never ordered lemonade a day 714 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: in my life. And I ordered lemonade and then they 715 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: said they didn't have any and I was like, I'll 716 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: have iced tea, and I was with a few of 717 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: our friends and they started bringing drinks and I grabbed 718 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: one and started drinking it. And our friend Cameron goes, Vanessa, 719 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And I go, I'm drinking my 720 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: iced tea. He goes, that's my beer. I honestly couldn't 721 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: even taste Actually I literally could. That's the only time 722 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: in my life I've that's happened to me. Wow, I 723 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: don't think. I mean I I think about the fact 724 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: that that happened to you at least once a month, 725 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: So I don't know how you were so cool about it. 726 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: That's a shocker that one's like that. But when you're 727 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: in that space, I actually know. I've been in like 728 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: with you or like in other situations at events where 729 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: we get to go to these amazing events and it's 730 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: so awesome. And I've been around beyond san Jay before. 731 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: I've been fine. But they had to security guards like 732 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: sitting right next to them, and they kept staring at 733 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: us every moved, and so it made me feel very nervous. 734 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: And I think that just like spiked everyone's adrenaline. I 735 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: was literally drinking a beer and I was like, well, 736 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: one of the things I thought was the funniest when 737 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: you came home and told us that story was you 738 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: were like, obviously, we're all on our phones every single 739 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: second of the day because we work on them, we 740 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: like use them as cameras whatever, And you were saying 741 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: that every time you picked up their phone, the security 742 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: guards like kind of got out of their seats, and 743 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not trying to give us as death stare. 744 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: I was like, honestly, it just was needed to look 745 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: at anything else, Like I'm trying not to look at her, 746 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: so I'm checking my help. Yeah, I don't know what 747 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: I would have done in that. No, but those those 748 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: are like when you know you're not supposed to bring attention, 749 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 1: that makes it even worse because you're like, everything I do, 750 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about it. You think I'm thinking about it, 751 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking. Like when someone's like the one 752 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: thing I'm going to tell you right now not to 753 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: think about his cookies, immediately your brain is like a 754 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: dancing cookie commercial. Yeah, it's like I can't you can't move. Yeah, 755 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: it's a weird. It wasn't even as I'm town You're 756 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: much better at being stoic than I am. Could you 757 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: imagine if at that lunch I've been like, um, in 758 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: case you're ever interested, I have a podcast so hideous. 759 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad I wasn't bear. Everything would have been ben rough, 760 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: especially because so many people when they meet me are like, huh, 761 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: you're pretty liberal for your family. I'm like, I am not. 762 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: My dad is from Canada, i am not related to 763 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: the former president of the United States. I do not 764 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: come from whatever Texas money. That that's not my life, Like, 765 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: that's not it's a different situation. But it throws people 766 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: in the industry. They're always like, huh, you know, because, 767 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: by the way, Jenna who's so lovely, Jenna Bush is 768 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: a host on Oh God, g m A right, what's 769 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: wrong with me? In the morning show? I think it's 770 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: Good Morning America anyway, not the point. She's so nice, 771 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: but like I think because she's also on TV and 772 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: like we're around the same age, and she also has 773 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: brown hair, everyone's just like, wow, you guys really with 774 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: the black sheet. But you're a family, and I'm like, 775 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm a family of immigrants, so I have nothing to 776 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: say about this, But nobody knows what to do with 777 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: me when they meet me and they don't know, they 778 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: don't know. Well, this was a lot of fun. Do 779 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: not forget that this is just part one of my 780 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: conversation with my cster as my roommates, my best fees 781 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,479 Speaker 1: Jenny and Vanessa. Look for Part two next month only 782 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: on one d replus. Before we go, I just want 783 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: to thank you all for listening and supporting work in progress. 784 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: U