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Speaker 1: Some And today is a very special episode to me
Speaker 1: because this is something that I've been preaching for a
Speaker 1: long time. A lot of our youth and a people
Speaker 1: who follow in hip hop, they think that they always
Speaker 1: have to be in front the camera to make money
Speaker 1: and to feed their family and to live good and
Speaker 1: live a great life. They feel like it's either there's
Speaker 1: always either the DJ they pick, the artist or the producer.
Speaker 1: Very seldomly do you have people say that, you know what,
Speaker 1: I want to be behind the cameras, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: behind the cameras and I'm gonna live my life like that.
Speaker 1: And and this is the reason why we want to
Speaker 1: do you too together is because it's like it's like
Speaker 1: I don't want to call you old like the old
Speaker 1: like the older not you know what, I don't want
Speaker 1: me old more. The more season that's the better word,
Speaker 1: The more season as an old like the young hot guy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And um, I've seen both
Speaker 1: of you guys struggle. But the thing about it is
Speaker 1: I want to really tell you guys story because I
Speaker 1: want to push you guys lifestyle more than I want
Speaker 1: to push my lifestyle, meaning meaning I know that a
Speaker 1: lot of people can't live how I live. Like like
Speaker 1: like you know, you work at McDonald's, and when you
Speaker 1: get off of McDonald's, nobody doesn't walk up to you
Speaker 1: and ask you for a cheeseburger. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like once you take off the thing. But when you're
Speaker 1: an artists, you know what I'm saying. Seven I can remember,
Speaker 1: you know, going to path Mark at four o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning and me seeing an artist you know going
Speaker 1: in there. I don't say the artists name going in
Speaker 1: there to get you know, some some stuff or they
Speaker 1: face and somebody saying can I take a picture with them?
Speaker 1: And they're like no, And then you know that person
Speaker 1: is like, oh this this this person is a dick,
Speaker 1: but you don't understand that they live in a normal life.
Speaker 1: So me, I want to push this lifestyle even more
Speaker 1: than my lifestyle, even more than you'll like our life
Speaker 1: style together that we're living now. I would like to
Speaker 1: push more of this because we need more directors, We
Speaker 1: need more in the vision. It's so crucial to the
Speaker 1: just And Farrell told me that Happy was out eight
Speaker 1: months and it didn't work till he actually made a
Speaker 1: video for happening. You know what I'm saying, So right
Speaker 1: now introduce it. We got the prolific, one of the
Speaker 1: craziest two directors in our time. They should be saluted,
Speaker 1: they should be respected, They should be they shoes should
Speaker 1: be tired. If you ever see the walking down the
Speaker 1: street and the shoes this untied the motherfucker's shoe blace.
Speaker 1: My good friends Gil Green and Sprift TV is in
Speaker 1: the house and serious about that because you know, I
Speaker 1: speak to kids so so much like you know, and
Speaker 1: I asked me, you know what you want to be
Speaker 1: and they say, you know the rapper and it's like,
Speaker 1: all right. I remember one time one of my friends
Speaker 1: said I'm gonna be a rapper, right, I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me hear your rap. He said, oh, I didn't
Speaker 1: write a robe. I was so offended. And this is
Speaker 1: the expression, it's crazy that you're here. This is the
Speaker 1: expression that he used. He said it would be like
Speaker 1: a French Bontanno type of rapper. Like and when they
Speaker 1: don't really realize it's how much French has struggled. And
Speaker 1: you know, they just see that that he's luxury and
Speaker 1: they see that his lyrics is kind of simple. He
Speaker 1: comes from the visuals to when they see that the
Speaker 1: lyrics is kind of simple and they think that this
Speaker 1: is just easy, Like it's hard to live this lifestyle,
Speaker 1: but let's just let's just take it from there. Like
Speaker 1: when you guys get a video, right, you get a
Speaker 1: record from an artist or a label, rather label send
Speaker 1: you a record, Gil and you know you never met
Speaker 1: this artist before. How do you even come up with
Speaker 1: a treatment for that, Like for like just to say
Speaker 1: a new arts, I mean, for me, it's the vibe.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm I'm a hip hop head. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm old school all the way. I'm liking that. I
Speaker 1: was gonna get that. I was waiting bad long ago
Speaker 1: before heard this. Um yeah, we're going with that all
Speaker 1: right now. I'm definitely like I fell in love with
Speaker 1: the culture of hip hop growing up in Miami. So
Speaker 1: this is eighties and this is this is like we
Speaker 1: had we had our own thing here with Luke and
Speaker 1: you know, Luca Luther camp bass music, but we also
Speaker 1: appreciated what we was hearing up from New York as well,
Speaker 1: and it was a very very different time of like
Speaker 1: it ain't mainstream and at internet it's like to hear
Speaker 1: a hip hop either you're listening to Uncle Al, you know,
Speaker 1: going to Flea Market USA to get some bass tapes
Speaker 1: actually going on. We talked about that straight up, like
Speaker 1: and that's how it is. And it wasn't like this
Speaker 1: Kumbaya MTV mainstream this before because I'm sorry, keeps going
Speaker 1: not Mimi. Miami was really real and I was fortunate
Speaker 1: enough to be exposed to a lot of that stuff
Speaker 1: at an early age and fell in love with it
Speaker 1: and fell in love with it within the essence of it.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about like legendary places like pack Jam
Speaker 1: and Stuff and Seah, the Pat James stories don't call
Speaker 1: all the way they DJ here, And it is before
Speaker 1: Miami's cool quote unquote. It was a rugged era in Miami. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: other than other than Luke and them, I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, yeah, there was always like the Sixth
Speaker 1: Borough they called Miami Beach with all the New York
Speaker 1: campbell Miami being uncool like me personally, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, people wasn't repping Miami at least in the
Speaker 1: hip hop cu you remember, everybody was repping New York
Speaker 1: like people were faking New York. Okay, I remember if
Speaker 1: they were like necessarily inter city based era, they were
Speaker 1: repping New York, which I hated. That was the that's
Speaker 1: things that I was fighting, and I'm sure you were
Speaker 1: fighting that stereotype as well. Yeah, yeah, you saw. You
Speaker 1: saw the divide because because Miami wasn't necessarily known for
Speaker 1: as lyricists, and then a lot of serious hip hop
Speaker 1: heads were like always like fond of the lyricists, so like,
Speaker 1: of course New York had like that lyrically driven, so
Speaker 1: a lot of the best lyricists were coming out of there.
Speaker 1: Not to knock the Miami rappers, but but you know,
Speaker 1: we was about more rhythm and bass and moving and
Speaker 1: and you know than than necessarily like like I loved
Speaker 1: casts like Kane and Kars Camera. But but if you
Speaker 1: go to some of those two Life Crew records right now,
Speaker 1: they sound prettydamn lyrical compared to some people now yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah they sound pretty delous. Yeah, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: how did you how did you? What made you pick
Speaker 1: the camera? Because we're gonna get into like, you know,
Speaker 1: your MC career at one point, but um, what made
Speaker 1: you actually say I'm gonna get behind the camera, because
Speaker 1: that's like it might have been your It was my
Speaker 1: love for hip hop because before even I'm Seeing, I
Speaker 1: was d jan and I was the one selling you
Speaker 1: the mixtapes in the hallway. And then, um, I was
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be able to go to school and
Speaker 1: I always I was in South Miami. I got into
Speaker 1: this broadcasting program. It was a magnet school because they
Speaker 1: used to bust man and they gave us a camera.
Speaker 1: And then I fell in love with visuals and music.
Speaker 1: Those are the two things. And we had a channel
Speaker 1: down here called the music Video Box and like video
Speaker 1: but yeah, Cowboy Daniel for all the box, Yeah just
Speaker 1: started dressing. Time was the time and that one you
Speaker 1: got that we got a lot. Okay, but let me
Speaker 1: tell you because before the box became national, started in Miami,
Speaker 1: and so we would get these videos that you know,
Speaker 1: MTV wouldn't get masters a ceremony, you know, all all
Speaker 1: these guys in through your guns, so they wouldn't let
Speaker 1: them have over there just play if it wasn't BT,
Speaker 1: and BT was playing maybe Hudini, you know. But like
Speaker 1: these these cats were coming down to Miami and Luke
Speaker 1: was and they were paining the box and they would
Speaker 1: just run those videos and you had to pay for
Speaker 1: the order of video on the box. You had to pay.
Speaker 1: But then the labels that the cheek code was the
Speaker 1: labels with pay in advance, and then you'd be watching.
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't on the box when the labels back,
Speaker 1: come on, then don't go on. You only two or
Speaker 1: three years enemy, but I was. I was you guys.
Speaker 1: We're talking about you guys. Maybe that's when you ordered
Speaker 1: three year seven It brought it to TV. How did
Speaker 1: you decide that? You know what I'm saying, because you
Speaker 1: you've been around rappers, how did you decide that the
Speaker 1: camera was the place that you want to be When
Speaker 1: I started taking pictures first for Ozone magazine. So Julia, baby,
Speaker 1: I've just seen her on the cruise too. Yeah they cruise. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's not I know that you stip told me to cruise.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I love saying Julia badly. We need you now.
Speaker 1: I've been talking to her about it. We started taking pictures.
Speaker 1: Wasn't the mix tape? He was doing the mix tape? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I started. You know what I'm saying, they did for
Speaker 1: killing the way, By the way, it's the best to
Speaker 1: kill in the world. Off Dad east um up today,
Speaker 1: I said, Man, you had j album. I said, we
Speaker 1: gotta st I support each other more, he said, whirred up.
Speaker 1: I said, need to do my food show. I started
Speaker 1: taking picture Julia. I went around taking pictures. You know
Speaker 1: something I started, you know, getting access all this backstage stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I want to pick up but
Speaker 1: you know, I picked up a little HD camera. I'm
Speaker 1: getting access hanging out with all these artists. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to do you know, like a smack DVD, like
Speaker 1: all access, like you know, like about French did you
Speaker 1: know the Cope Waves DVD? So I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do my own. I remember you following anybody that
Speaker 1: came to Orlando around one time he fought me and
Speaker 1: Charlie around and we had like got that. You want
Speaker 1: to let me ask both of you guys a question
Speaker 1: real quick? Right? Is it a cheat cold when the
Speaker 1: guys like your own fire? Like right now Drake? Right,
Speaker 1: Drake could be on fire? Like is that a cheat cold?
Speaker 1: Like if he if he sends you a trash record?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, do you just jump
Speaker 1: on it immediately? Or what do you do? Like like
Speaker 1: like me, it's whatever, I with everything. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We go after the bag with BA saying
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what Nick quested? Who actually put
Speaker 1: me on question set moment? Yeah, yeah, I got the
Speaker 1: Nick told me before I even started, said never let
Speaker 1: a bad song prevent you from making a good video.
Speaker 1: And I always follow that. I always follow knowledge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can take like when you it was a cost,
Speaker 1: like there was a counter around the door. Right, So
Speaker 1: somebody's talking about giving you an opportunity to film to
Speaker 1: film with film. This is before digital and all that.
Speaker 1: The budgets work. Yeah, so you're like everything, you wanna
Speaker 1: take the opportunity. That's because if the song is is whack,
Speaker 1: you make a legendary visual and bust it up, bost
Speaker 1: it up. So that artist comes, he liked the record,
Speaker 1: he gets on set immediately, he's on something. I'm the
Speaker 1: big man and you work for him. He doesn't know
Speaker 1: your history, he doesn't know how you never experienced that.
Speaker 1: You never experienced that. I've experienced that with just new
Speaker 1: artists just saying hi to me. They'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm the ship. I'm like, well hold on. It's like, kid,
Speaker 1: you not like one. Because the thing about it is
Speaker 1: when you get into like the twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen
Speaker 1: years in your in your life and you're doing the
Speaker 1: same thing. You have a career, and when there's certain
Speaker 1: people they got six months here and they just think
Speaker 1: like the world is the kiss. They asked like, I
Speaker 1: can't say that's what happened with me Goals and Joe Button's,
Speaker 1: but it pretty much looked like that if pretty want
Speaker 1: looked like Joe Buttons was asking questions and they were
Speaker 1: just like yeah, whatever, and it's just like nah, dude,
Speaker 1: like you know, Joe putting his time, Like he might
Speaker 1: not be a legend to everybody, but he's a lyricist
Speaker 1: and he held it so that walk away was disrespectful.
Speaker 1: The walking away was one but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, like at the end of the day, and
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get into some crazy ship, but
Speaker 1: we had artists development. Remember before, like people used to
Speaker 1: know how to do an interview to say your boom
Speaker 1: you answer it like right now, the ladis just taking
Speaker 1: money and so so I'm saying, have you ever had
Speaker 1: experience where like the artists came off as a dickhead,
Speaker 1: but you still have to remain professional? Yeah? Absolutely, okay, absolutely.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, it's like, man, come on, we
Speaker 1: want to talk about this bookie. No, no, no no, there
Speaker 1: can tell because because there's no it was just one
Speaker 1: video and it wasn't the artist was disrespectful. He was
Speaker 1: just in the zone in a whole different world and
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was on. I don't even
Speaker 1: know where he is this days. Because I find out
Speaker 1: the humble ones have the career, the ones they get
Speaker 1: put on quick and they didn't see it coming there
Speaker 1: and put the work ethic and they're like in and out.
Speaker 1: And this was an artist at Swiss beats put on
Speaker 1: and Swiss opened up the likes everything point no, no.
Speaker 1: It was a rapper out of Atlanta and he got
Speaker 1: everyone he got, He got everyone on the track DMX
Speaker 1: remember that was it, David Banner and everything. Anyways, we
Speaker 1: did this. We had this idea to get the dope
Speaker 1: bass video and had the marching band and everything, and
Speaker 1: Oh Boy didn't want to get in his own video.
Speaker 1: That's why he was like bugging and yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember this ARTISTI but you know, because that's what that's
Speaker 1: what that's what bogged out. But that's what's real about Swiss.
Speaker 1: Swiss Cold clock them right in the face and he
Speaker 1: slid right in front of the camera. I was like,
Speaker 1: act shit, and Oh Boy gave the performance of his
Speaker 1: lifetime because he was so angry when that's a legend.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about being an artist. They don't tell
Speaker 1: you that this is your money, you idiot, you don't want.
Speaker 1: The one thing that I noticed about both of you
Speaker 1: were like, we're actually playing for this at nine and
Speaker 1: you both showed up at eight twenty seven, you showed
Speaker 1: up at five, you showed up at a twenty seven,
Speaker 1: and it's like, this is the exact thing that we
Speaker 1: got to install. Because these people that I know, artists
Speaker 1: that I set them uptown. I'm like, yo, definite GM
Speaker 1: just called me to go to your video these things
Speaker 1: like like no, no, this is your budget. Like I
Speaker 1: don't think these people will understand that, Like I don't
Speaker 1: tell you to the crazy ship. But hype Williams did
Speaker 1: to me. We'll get into that later. That one. That's
Speaker 1: when the budgets was crazy. I never worked with a
Speaker 1: man though. Many videos with a million right now that
Speaker 1: crazy movies right now. But back then the hype was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, you had to spend that budget. What was
Speaker 1: the as much as you worked with a million, this
Speaker 1: was a great video. Stacks Marker from Miami never Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, gonna tell you the story about
Speaker 1: back and I like Stacks. He's a nice don't you
Speaker 1: know what? You know what things about Stacks A good kid.
Speaker 1: He's a good kid. He's got good music, but his
Speaker 1: money outshadowed him. So people never can. I've got to
Speaker 1: be about struggle. That's the one you kick. Do we cut.
Speaker 1: We didn't have Roy's convertible. Remember that in the video
Speaker 1: because because he because then he came out in one
Speaker 1: of his lyrics he's saying, I'm driving the drop top
Speaker 1: roles and and he's like, man, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna wrap about that, you gotta have it right. So
Speaker 1: there's no problem for them because so be live. But yeah,
Speaker 1: when it was open, Yeah, they gave us that club.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but I never tell you I think stats
Speaker 1: was a great I just think that once you get
Speaker 1: hear his story and his father invented numerology, whatever did
Speaker 1: he do? Like you can't can't you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it's just like we know you're not struggling. It's
Speaker 1: different kind of money. That's super race. So picked them up.
Speaker 1: So his money got out, like sometimes your record will
Speaker 1: sometimes you have a bigger record than you like sometimes
Speaker 1: you can have a record that like I have am Gondo.
Speaker 1: I see people all the time they'd be like and
Speaker 1: maybe Ice grealling me like that, but it's real that record,
Speaker 1: it's bigger than me. But so you had a million
Speaker 1: dollars throw to that fandom. The lights didn't work. Now
Speaker 1: he picked me up everything after they cut it off
Speaker 1: like the know the wiring that she was like a
Speaker 1: but it's just for the video. Oh man, we had choppers, boats, manships,
Speaker 1: two clubs. He his post is bringing in Victoria's secret models. Bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like don't let the NASA thing for you cheap ship?
Speaker 1: Do you work with like a quarter quarter? That's two
Speaker 1: fifty right man? But that's like that I'm saying, that's
Speaker 1: like the now it's almost like a million dollars and
Speaker 1: Guils you know, Gils big a million dollars, a million
Speaker 1: dollars back then, Gills hey now now, but the hype
Speaker 1: is fine, Mr Chiles, and you had a couple of
Speaker 1: million college color. That wasn't a million now that was
Speaker 1: like that was like eight semifive, like seven hundred or
Speaker 1: five hundred. That's hype was eight hundred one that went
Speaker 1: to like one point to like easy, like easy, like
Speaker 1: he'd be filmed that oh no, right yeah for one
Speaker 1: scene for three days. It's just like we listen to no,
Speaker 1: this is how it works. I was like, you know
Speaker 1: you was recouping that. Nah. I knew from the Mr.
Speaker 1: Child someone right to tell tell you found it was
Speaker 1: the best I wanted to get this in the middle
Speaker 1: because I wanted to keep go more so we'll get
Speaker 1: into him later, because I want to get more about
Speaker 1: y'all because because this is it's a long story. But
Speaker 1: I got jerk like it's my most played video ever,
Speaker 1: so I guess it was worth it because it was
Speaker 1: like at the time where just hype, you just have
Speaker 1: hype name like it could have been a piece of ship,
Speaker 1: but they said hype. William's day was like and it
Speaker 1: was just like you know what I mean, videos just that,
Speaker 1: But do you remember those times like that? I was
Speaker 1: pa on those videos. That video. That's how I got
Speaker 1: you know, I came up like from the bottom of
Speaker 1: the ladder, the older hold on. We needed to describe
Speaker 1: with Pete it that's a dude boy production assistance turn
Speaker 1: in the studio. But Benny Boom was also a p A.
Speaker 1: We all came up in the same you know, nick
Speaker 1: quest and put all them cast on the legs. How
Speaker 1: about that? How about that? I'm sorry to change subjects
Speaker 1: because we want to get back to the p A
Speaker 1: thing because that's very important because these brothers think that
Speaker 1: they're gonna just pick up a camera and they're gonna
Speaker 1: shoot for um. You know what I'm saying, Tony want savage.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, They gotta relax. Maybe so
Speaker 1: so um well, I said, I was going back to
Speaker 1: Bennie Boom by Boom, Bitty Boom. Did you see the
Speaker 1: Tupac story yet? Now? Yeah, I've just been watching the
Speaker 1: cons personay with him and John Singleton. Oh I love it. Yeah, great,
Speaker 1: John Singleton and Benny Boom. Did you see the Tupac Yeah?
Speaker 1: I went to the premiere. Okay, I was dead too
Speaker 1: that night. I can't get in the fire that saying
Speaker 1: I saw move go ahead, tell him to me about
Speaker 1: the movie, tell us about them. It was cool, like translation,
Speaker 1: it didn't really, I mean, come on, we can keep
Speaker 1: it real. I kept telling you, I said, I was
Speaker 1: disappointed personally, like come on, like even though I gave
Speaker 1: is a friend of mine, you know what I'm saying, Yes,
Speaker 1: your friend of mine to know what I'm saying, but like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just the way the straight out
Speaker 1: of compt came out was just. And don't disrespect anybody
Speaker 1: involved in the movie, the actors, but it's just I
Speaker 1: felt like the like that's pop story, Like I felt
Speaker 1: like we needed something just way more up there, Like
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like when they did, I said walk
Speaker 1: the line as an example, like why can't hip hop
Speaker 1: have that's cool? When are you going to see it?
Speaker 1: I haven't got a chance to see it. Yea, I
Speaker 1: am going to go out support because I don't like
Speaker 1: hearing mixed with you. I don't everybody should go and
Speaker 1: check it out. Like having her own opinion. But I
Speaker 1: thought it was big because who filmed the biggest movie?
Speaker 1: Who was the director? And I was disappointed that one
Speaker 1: he was the hand of his time. It was a
Speaker 1: better quality movie in my opinion, like production was, but
Speaker 1: I think it lacked what it needed as well. Personally,
Speaker 1: Verse felt the same, the fact that it was Benny
Speaker 1: Boom like coming from video, coming from being the p A.
Speaker 1: But I like the next day here that Jo did.
Speaker 1: Yeah too, but you didn't appreciate the pop track. It
Speaker 1: was cool. On you go take one taking shots? This
Speaker 1: is this is all let's go. You gotta take one
Speaker 1: tiger bone later, let me get it on. Man, he's
Speaker 1: taking a shot of quick. You don't taken here and
Speaker 1: we don't know, but you're making it. Yeah, quick the quick.
Speaker 1: We gotta get to the quick to Aco hydrant. We
Speaker 1: don't got the OPA. You don't want, we don't have
Speaker 1: the pop. Daddy is slipping to the south, but I
Speaker 1: don't want. I want to say a big respect up
Speaker 1: to Benny because I saw that come up and he
Speaker 1: and we were all coming up together. Department of Film
Speaker 1: Nick Questions. Eric nick Question was established director at the
Speaker 1: time when there probably was only ten hip hop directors,
Speaker 1: and he grabs all and put your Nick was the
Speaker 1: type of person that passed on his knowledge. That's why
Speaker 1: so he didn't sign. You say I'm gonna sign, Gail,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign, but put your on. He sees what
Speaker 1: you're working and it's like if you were walking into
Speaker 1: like rockets back in the days. Everyone's in there, everyone,
Speaker 1: all the rappers in there, all the young directors wanted
Speaker 1: to be there, and he would give you a camera
Speaker 1: like I don't even know if you knew, like on
Speaker 1: phone time, full Time was gonna bring it up later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like I was like shooting second Unit and
Speaker 1: I was just coming up, you know, and full Time
Speaker 1: for the youngest that don and like a second unit
Speaker 1: like and so much time that came out of that.
Speaker 1: He had a company called Department of Film. It was
Speaker 1: Benny Boom, Eric White, myself, Nick and Nick was o
Speaker 1: G who basically co signed every one of those guys
Speaker 1: to get that first big video because the label's nervous,
Speaker 1: like and n was his company Australia. He got the accident,
Speaker 1: but like like, I can't do it drinking supporting team.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. You know, Nor did a
Speaker 1: movie like Nick's first movie. I think it was that
Speaker 1: Set and Mummies. Yeah, I stole the DVD. I have
Speaker 1: it in my house. There's only one dvd. Ter no
Speaker 1: use his head cut off? Yea, to cut my head off.
Speaker 1: I made a black guy fucking my head cut off
Speaker 1: the time I die in the first twelve minutes of
Speaker 1: the movie. You know that that's the black role in
Speaker 1: the hard film. So I was satisfied. My first I
Speaker 1: got to see, I got experience Hollywood because I always
Speaker 1: heard it about these stories about these Hollywood actors. They're
Speaker 1: a method actor. One guy who was a method actor,
Speaker 1: so he wouldn't was that the white dude, Yeah from Faster,
Speaker 1: So he wouldn't let nobody talk to him if they
Speaker 1: wasn't calling him the Gary. He stayed in the Rule.
Speaker 1: Jared Letoby. I see him at night at the hotel.
Speaker 1: He hey, what's up man. I'm like, oh, ship, what
Speaker 1: are you right now? I don't know the dude, you know,
Speaker 1: Jared Leto played the Joker. He stayed in character the
Speaker 1: whole time. Oh yeah, that's sending like condom filled with
Speaker 1: whatever was to It was, This is scary to me
Speaker 1: because they like they you know, the people keep coming
Speaker 1: up to me. They're like, yo, he's a method actor,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna act like how you supposed to act
Speaker 1: in the movie. So I was like, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what that meant. But then I've seen
Speaker 1: him walking around and he'll come to lunch and be like,
Speaker 1: this is three he is in the movie. He's like
Speaker 1: where the fund is my ship? Like the people will
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, it's to say his name,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is crazy. I was like,
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm playing the next easy I don't
Speaker 1: need a method that guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, I'm just missing truth. So then I
Speaker 1: had heard these stories, and then I also heard that
Speaker 1: all of these actors get up so mastertype. Trust me.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to see it up to it. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to see it. I went in the wrong
Speaker 1: trailer and everybody was like, there's no one. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: and I knew I just kidn't just walk out. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, hey, didn't good? Just say something like I
Speaker 1: don't you get blessed? I got just that quest gave
Speaker 1: me that. Nick question also director offers video l A
Speaker 1: L A very first time I got on film and
Speaker 1: I stopped being a drug dealer. My very first film
Speaker 1: was Nick question Land. He also did my second video.
Speaker 1: I think my first video was your video what you Like?
Speaker 1: He was just bullshit. You were just bullshit. He was
Speaker 1: rolling a camper from orlandom with sway all the way
Speaker 1: and probably say still together. You know you guys, you
Speaker 1: know you gotta keep that Dominican Spirits producer go to everybody,
Speaker 1: is that important? Like how important is that your team?
Speaker 1: Because you can't know you're filmmaking his teamwork. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no one person is going to do it. And that's
Speaker 1: what I cast don't understand. Why look on someone by
Speaker 1: what kind of sport is it? Is it? Basketball? Basketball?
Speaker 1: Basketball is like football. It is like you got like
Speaker 1: like a nigga. You need your producer. You know it's
Speaker 1: too much coming. Let me ask you something right now,
Speaker 1: when you have to cut costs, you gotta fly to Morocco. Right,
Speaker 1: You're got to fly to Morocco. You got your set crew,
Speaker 1: this is your crew. But you gotta cut budget. What
Speaker 1: do you do? You ride out like got to like
Speaker 1: you want to shoot it for twenty five? Sway, He's like,
Speaker 1: if we can't go shoot this for twenty five in Morocco,
Speaker 1: the Morocco producer guys already saying seventy five the Morocco.
Speaker 1: But so you you hire them somebody over there. You
Speaker 1: know he's probably finessing putting his money on top of it.
Speaker 1: Because they told me that artists have gone to Morocco
Speaker 1: and they a sap told me on the cruise. He
Speaker 1: was like, yo, we went to Morocco film, be careful.
Speaker 1: They thought we were spies. They took our cameras, they
Speaker 1: raced our footage. I heard a couple of artists go
Speaker 1: through that. So you know what I'm saying. But I'm like, twist.
Speaker 1: It sounds nice, but it's still North Africa, the South South.
Speaker 1: It's little that's not okay, my bad, But I just
Speaker 1: like to Last Rocket too. By the way, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: North Africa at least. Yeah, you got worldwidecco. My mother's
Speaker 1: my mother's Morocco. You've been, never been. It's very dangerous nowadays.
Speaker 1: I want to go to Morocco. I love Moracks like
Speaker 1: I don't know, we're great. It's pretty. I don't know
Speaker 1: about dangerous where you go, but cashing the street, I
Speaker 1: want to get down. I go to Morocco right now.
Speaker 1: They Blanca's beautiful. They got nice place. You won't go
Speaker 1: to a nice play look jurious. You see f and
Speaker 1: he tried to get killed every documents festival stream. Morocco.
Speaker 1: Never been coming home, coming home. I've been to a
Speaker 1: part of France. It was just like Morocco. I smoked
Speaker 1: the same as that they called as Morocco, so it
Speaker 1: would make sense. That's the best hash in the world.
Speaker 1: By the way, my rocking hash that serious, No that serious,
Speaker 1: not even racious. No Moroccan hash. You could you could
Speaker 1: hit it. You could hit it straight up. When you
Speaker 1: raised with the culture. Um you know, I was raised
Speaker 1: in Miami. I know some of the bad words that
Speaker 1: when my mom's got mad and the shoes came off
Speaker 1: and the throwing and stuff. The you make it too though, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I told them that. You were like, damn, you're Jamaican.
Speaker 1: You got the iary rides ever Tink, Cristpa Curry, remember everything,
Speaker 1: Christpha Curry everything, christmpher carry Curry see Prid of freaking
Speaker 1: see seeing y'all remember super That was like the number
Speaker 1: one record of Jamaica is like, Yo, they're gonna do
Speaker 1: something when you go on stage, don't react. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool and like my mom, I said, I
Speaker 1: gotta react. It was just normal. Nobody moved. I was
Speaker 1: the only wild ship. It was like that's when they
Speaker 1: show they still loved. And it's ninety eight, so I
Speaker 1: don't know they can still do that now. But back
Speaker 1: then the police didn't even moved. But I'm not looking
Speaker 1: they can do so I'm scared of the things they're
Speaker 1: like finished, What was your first time video? Like official
Speaker 1: music video for established artists. I'll be trick Daddy America
Speaker 1: Society Society Great. Great, that's a great track. That did
Speaker 1: that mean a lot to you because him be in
Speaker 1: Miami home Bread and it was and it was dropping
Speaker 1: knowledge on the track nation so anything it was like
Speaker 1: positive Nation to come on, I'm telling you I was
Speaker 1: a hip hop head man. You gotta get back to
Speaker 1: his rap career. You weren't go into that. Did you
Speaker 1: shoot your own music videos? That's how I got into.
Speaker 1: How did you feel about the African verbout the news?
Speaker 1: I was crushed. I ain't hearing news man. That was
Speaker 1: good one. No, come on, I know you already know
Speaker 1: how you're gonna he said, sorry, you can't. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: He was a cute child. Molestation, Yeah, everybody was doing this,
Speaker 1: especially made him step down. Yeah, I actually made him
Speaker 1: step down. I thought that was the right thing to
Speaker 1: do because, um, with all the due respect everything he
Speaker 1: did for hip hop, even even him, he's not bigger
Speaker 1: than the movement, you know what I'm saying. So it's like,
Speaker 1: if you had to step down, I think that's the
Speaker 1: right thing to do and then continue moving. And it's
Speaker 1: crazy for the younger guys. We'll see, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you want to explain. I mean, like when I
Speaker 1: got into, they were setting up different chapters in different
Speaker 1: cities and actually joined the d C at the time.
Speaker 1: But you know, Africa Embado was always instilling positivity in
Speaker 1: hip hop and that was this thing is and and
Speaker 1: if you're in Zulu, you have Infinity Lessons where it's
Speaker 1: basically they give you a bunch of books to read
Speaker 1: and so like it was really getting your culture about
Speaker 1: Malcolm about what I mean, it could be everything. It
Speaker 1: could be as as five percenters, it could be, you know,
Speaker 1: just expanding your mind on understanding. It's very well positivity
Speaker 1: respected crew. You know what I'm saying. It's from the Foundation. Foundation.
Speaker 1: And whenever you say, if somebody say you Zulu nation,
Speaker 1: that it could be all over the world I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: You could be in Switzerland, you could be in doodledof Germany.
Speaker 1: You can be And it's a beautiful who initiates and
Speaker 1: like it was African, it's a beautiful movement. So I
Speaker 1: just don't want the movement to be torn by one
Speaker 1: person's act, whether he's getting guilty or not. So the
Speaker 1: fact that they made him step down. When he stepped down, um,
Speaker 1: I thought it was dope because I don't want the
Speaker 1: movement to stop for one person's actions, even though they
Speaker 1: want to create. Because he brought like tell me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, and I'm gonna say what I know, but
Speaker 1: they brought the infamous gangs and the Bronx and the
Speaker 1: New York together together, which is the birth of hip hop,
Speaker 1: you know, the beep and then fighters. Yeah, instead of fighting,
Speaker 1: they started being you know, having BBoy battles, you know
Speaker 1: saying em C battles and DJ battles And that's what
Speaker 1: That's kind of like the gist of what House Do
Speaker 1: Nation was creating if you want to see a really
Speaker 1: good documentary on it. Actually, the Quest was a part
Speaker 1: of the rumble Kings. Kings is amazing, and then watch
Speaker 1: the other the fashion one. What's the other one? That?
Speaker 1: What's the fashion one? That Thurston? Yeah, that's like right
Speaker 1: after rumble Kings. It almost goes It's like into that
Speaker 1: like a dude named Carlos Karate something right. I like
Speaker 1: that rumble Kings is amazing. That's like I got to
Speaker 1: finishing somebody else and it was a fashion one, which
Speaker 1: I can't think of it because Fresh Dress. I think
Speaker 1: you can watch that like right after rumble Kings. It
Speaker 1: almost feels like it's like a continuation, but it's about
Speaker 1: the fashion and hip hop in there. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: Quest because I started produced question got some of those
Speaker 1: Fresh Dress at the Fresh Dress party. He might have
Speaker 1: something to do that too. I see Nick and stretched
Speaker 1: on strong at the front. He's strong, he got they
Speaker 1: got a big company. They fund mad movies. No Nick questions,
Speaker 1: questions like you might just have to get Nick on
Speaker 1: your show man. I need and I need, I need
Speaker 1: to direct a new video. It's always a whole time.
Speaker 1: The funny thing about Nick is like you'd be like
Speaker 1: when you hear him, he's this Englishman. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: how does the Englishman getting the hip hop? And I
Speaker 1: mean that he's hip hop? Yo. This dude just filmed
Speaker 1: a documentary. It's on National Geographic about Syria, like the
Speaker 1: hats were in the heart of Syria. So when you say, like, yo,
Speaker 1: he was, it's definitely really than me. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: about it, like shots, just about what happened right now
Speaker 1: with you? I did, I did. I'm forget about that's
Speaker 1: so that's I know. That's why I was. It was
Speaker 1: like a twenty five trip to get there. First. I listen, listen,
Speaker 1: I have my version of Third World countries. I'm out
Speaker 1: of it. It's not for me no more. I one
Speaker 1: of one. I'm coming, Come on, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: the one like still good, We're gonna eat. That's it
Speaker 1: eat so unforgettable, right, I'm like, yo, I need blank guns.
Speaker 1: We don't have blank guns here. They're using real inks
Speaker 1: shooting blanks, which is like the cops provided a hundred
Speaker 1: aks for me, what do you need this one? I
Speaker 1: can use this one. It's okay. So they were using blanks,
Speaker 1: and you know when you are some blanks, there's like
Speaker 1: full blanks. It is louder. And they cycled the gun.
Speaker 1: You know when the when the round goes off, you'll
Speaker 1: put the next round in the chamber. So these blanks
Speaker 1: are on the real gun, so they after they go
Speaker 1: one time, they got so it's like just scary about
Speaker 1: you know, safety. It was like at each other the
Speaker 1: guns with the blanks. We didn't point out you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That sound like the same story when
Speaker 1: we shot Yes, yes, sir, yes your scam shots down.
Speaker 1: I don't know the real joints. Let's say it's one
Speaker 1: of the craziest video stories ever of all time. Give
Speaker 1: it to us. And it was early in my career,
Speaker 1: and and and big up for like giving me a
Speaker 1: blind actual shooting music video with yourself. So we're in
Speaker 1: the Bronx and it's the coldest day. We was by
Speaker 1: the stadium. Okay, that's right by the coldest day in
Speaker 1: New York. And we're in the middle of shooting and
Speaker 1: we set up this whole scene and in the middle
Speaker 1: of our shot, this dude tackles another dude in the
Speaker 1: frame while you're shooting and pulls out his piece like
Speaker 1: get down. Were like, yo, we didn't rehearse this ship.
Speaker 1: So then the dude was undercover and was watching this
Speaker 1: guy who was on your video set. So they cut
Speaker 1: him up. They put him in the back of the car,
Speaker 1: but they don't close the door, so oh boy scrubs
Speaker 1: out the car right and he's running down the block.
Speaker 1: He trips on the concrete, bust his mouth on the concrete.
Speaker 1: Now he's bloody with cups and ten cops around. The
Speaker 1: neighborhood is not having it because it just doesn't look
Speaker 1: right right, you know. This ship turned into some like
Speaker 1: do the Right Thing ship where people were throwing it
Speaker 1: out the windows radio ship like perform. They shut us
Speaker 1: down and we had to go downtown and finish it.
Speaker 1: Remember credited, your company got the word. They got the word. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that she was crazy. Yeah, damn, yeah good, I was crazy.
Speaker 1: For God, I'm for good. Damn you think it's about
Speaker 1: ye got to come on one tiger about tasting changese.
Speaker 1: The reason you don't drink like reason you're even I
Speaker 1: just I just never never drank, and you're like my
Speaker 1: whole life. Yeah, I got a good track. I don't know,
Speaker 1: drink chips once. I don't know. Baby, don't you never
Speaker 1: have one? It actually is you been wine changes wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you will eat a fan first, but you're the part
Speaker 1: of this. I ain't drinking this. I got to fish
Speaker 1: and another piece and he wants you to have a
Speaker 1: We got really bears quick strawberry. This is the spoke
Speaker 1: of this drink. We got strawberry, yo, good to day.
Speaker 1: Well we've never had the gummy bears, Gummy bears, tiger
Speaker 1: bone and I don't work bat no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: too fold and all that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The gil green that's a mixture right here. So it's
Speaker 1: a little I hate chill. Your life has changed. That
Speaker 1: was you have a big video? You ever direct? I'm
Speaker 1: going off the limb when I'm saying French from an
Speaker 1: chin right and Dominic came Republic like it was fun.
Speaker 1: I was definitely a fun one because it happened. We're
Speaker 1: going to shoot that in in l A. And then
Speaker 1: this was right before Drake was gonna go on tour
Speaker 1: forties like yo, you know Fortes forty take shot Trump
Speaker 1: forty had a vacation. She said, up for drinking. Everybody
Speaker 1: to go to dr have fun. Yo, let's shooting in
Speaker 1: dr hold On, they said, we kind of kind of friends.
Speaker 1: Drake got he got a friend that set up of Vakid.
Speaker 1: I don't got those types of I'm jealous. Hold On,
Speaker 1: I've got the story you're trying to tell. Hold On,
Speaker 1: trying to stay. We're bad friends out there, man, I said,
Speaker 1: we went to Universal Studios. You forgot. It's not like
Speaker 1: Dominico my friendships when he's doing okhead. So it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you do it in dr It's of course used to
Speaker 1: sway mend and I've seen it was like that was
Speaker 1: like a United plane like I had Like it was
Speaker 1: like United. I was going out like private though. That
Speaker 1: was why I had a man drama because my passport
Speaker 1: was expired. I didn't I didn't go on. I didn't
Speaker 1: look like al Qaeda to so I leave with him
Speaker 1: out of doing a passport mission yesterday, I this today.
Speaker 1: So I had to get my passport boom. I had
Speaker 1: to fly my mom and so she can confirm that
Speaker 1: she had signed some paper Yeah, signs of paper work
Speaker 1: to say I know this guy for thirty years Dominican Republic.
Speaker 1: Later in my pastor whom they gave me the passport,
Speaker 1: jumped on the flight, went there, you know sways Dominican.
Speaker 1: He has that on smash over there. It was just
Speaker 1: like fun? Was that? That was a fun one? Was
Speaker 1: that that He's like some you know what you're saying that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's guys to their comple Is it guys of
Speaker 1: their comple Yeah? Is it like that? It just comes No,
Speaker 1: But that's what it's called. The place is called cous
Speaker 1: of the company. But that was my That's what that was.
Speaker 1: Nobody Gil went to deal with me to Colombia was
Speaker 1: legend on the drawing you director? Was that I directed
Speaker 1: to join from the Pablo's Crib with Ross. I did
Speaker 1: the Avery Storm record with Ross. You know your realer style?
Speaker 1: You agree with the big budget? I got the can
Speaker 1: we tell him what to call you? Baby Gil? Baby girl?
Speaker 1: That better call me, Steven Spielberg, it's how is it?
Speaker 1: How is this seeing? Like I talked about passing the torch,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I get so much props in the
Speaker 1: question from putting me on and when first, when people
Speaker 1: give you your first opportunity, you never forget that, man,
Speaker 1: because people don't have to do that, you know. But
Speaker 1: that was just dope because there was a director giving
Speaker 1: you the thing. Me me gunpoint, like, yeah, I'm shooting videos.
Speaker 1: I could do this video. I can cut it for
Speaker 1: you in the same day. I could do do this.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I come from the five
Speaker 1: D era. I was one of the first ones with
Speaker 1: the five D Like, Yo, Ross, this ship looks good.
Speaker 1: Let's jump out this lobby at this hotel and film permits.
Speaker 1: Gorilla real girls, you know you got you got the
Speaker 1: torch passed on to you. You know you see me.
Speaker 1: You would show me love, everybody show love. It's not like, hey, Speth,
Speaker 1: I got I got a video. When you shoot this,
Speaker 1: I got a bag for you. Have you go out
Speaker 1: of videos without permits? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like
Speaker 1: the things, but I'm not. But it gets they don't
Speaker 1: understand that. So when you shoot gorilla ship. But when
Speaker 1: you get police on set, you have to have all
Speaker 1: this extra stuff and the budget goes up. I gotta
Speaker 1: film permit. I can't. I just shot up French uh,
Speaker 1: French Montana feature and Weekend in Max b in New York.
Speaker 1: So when you got you gotta get permits. Weakness is
Speaker 1: like you know, big big video. So when you guys,
Speaker 1: you gotta get the permits. They can't drive in the car.
Speaker 1: I gotta get the process trailer, so permits trailers. Put
Speaker 1: in the car on the trailer and then they're pulling
Speaker 1: it through the city and it looks like they drive him,
Speaker 1: but they're not. But if I I could have been
Speaker 1: really that through a minivan and save man bread and
Speaker 1: shot up, shot up, you know, did you never feel
Speaker 1: that was a cheeko the gorilla styles just real talking
Speaker 1: like you know, I think that because it was like
Speaker 1: it was like, isn't gonna hate temperament. I love the
Speaker 1: young kids with the five D because to me, that's
Speaker 1: how I came up, and we did it on film.
Speaker 1: You saved six months before you can shoot, you know,
Speaker 1: you saved five thousand hours about three rolls of film
Speaker 1: and then you know, but I love like anyone that's
Speaker 1: that's self motivated and you grab your iPhone and go film.
Speaker 1: The best filmmakers are gonna be some kid that's in
Speaker 1: a basement with some great ideas and now he's got
Speaker 1: the tools to do it. Years ago, like I said,
Speaker 1: it was ten directors and if someone gave you that
Speaker 1: eleven slot, it was a big deal. So BT Awards
Speaker 1: and always have the same five guys soon come. But
Speaker 1: it does it never feel like the quality suffers, and
Speaker 1: then everybody just adjusted say, yeah, that's dope, even though
Speaker 1: it's not really dope. I mean, do you understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that. I mean, you see like it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a crapshoot, you know, like you'd be like like
Speaker 1: an artist has ten grand or whatever, and they're like,
Speaker 1: because you'll you'll do storyboard, you'll do this, you'll have
Speaker 1: everything set up. And I'm not talking about the running
Speaker 1: gun guy, but just in general, they'll make up by
Speaker 1: doing cheesy effects this and that, and then it becomes
Speaker 1: like a trend. The chief effect becomes a trend. I
Speaker 1: think if you don't have the money to do the
Speaker 1: polished video, then you need to step out the box.
Speaker 1: And think of an idea that's a little different, creative different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like I came, I was negative, make it happen.
Speaker 1: But when you get to a certain level, when I
Speaker 1: have my certain team, my certain DP. I know the
Speaker 1: guy that sent my lights, he's expensive just to be
Speaker 1: on set, you know what I'm saying. So I have
Speaker 1: a certain look. So you want that look, you gotta
Speaker 1: pay for that look. Again, you'll describe the people wild
Speaker 1: lights is is important? You know, you think everybody, everybody
Speaker 1: coming to you. I got a red cam, le's shoot
Speaker 1: a video. I got a red cam. Everybody got a
Speaker 1: red cam. Now it don't matter. You can shoot the
Speaker 1: red camera, look like you shot it with your iPhone.
Speaker 1: You need the DP that's gonna get that lighting of
Speaker 1: what you need to make that look that movie look.
Speaker 1: You know you can't do that. I gotta five D.
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, cool, look at your video. Looks like
Speaker 1: you did it with a VHS camera. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And someone will be like, but that's the
Speaker 1: new trend. That's just hot. That's It's like, how many
Speaker 1: videos you see a shitty lit red Yeah, it's red.
Speaker 1: Sometimes if the song is popping, shi that's what happened video,
Speaker 1: and then everybody like that's the new look right there,
Speaker 1: and everybody the guy and me was like, oh that's
Speaker 1: not right, like looking at the video. But then the
Speaker 1: hood guy and me was like, I'm get I love
Speaker 1: a song. Let go that's it. You know, I've a
Speaker 1: game twenty years. I'm like, damn, Like you were supposed
Speaker 1: to reshoot that day, toot reshoot that like this that
Speaker 1: was the original. This is the remix, but it's not
Speaker 1: even the remix. It's I had a question. How many
Speaker 1: videos had a guy like canned like shell, I know,
Speaker 1: like he's experienced that I've never heard. I never content
Speaker 1: is king. Yeah, but in that time, that hip hop
Speaker 1: time shoving up. Oh yeah, it's not coming out a
Speaker 1: million dollars there they shoved the ship. Video was like
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Now, when you say a million, they
Speaker 1: gave five hundreds. Wasn't when I didn't do it. I
Speaker 1: just this was like this was a legendary, stary because
Speaker 1: I've seen the rough cut of the video, but that's
Speaker 1: pop status. I imagine that would still happen, but you're
Speaker 1: still losing, like just no way to fix its. Back
Speaker 1: then was like I was in the CD row when
Speaker 1: like Cats were coming out the Gates seven Platinum, so
Speaker 1: like they just shot Circle spent so much money and
Speaker 1: it was crazy because I remember this like it was yesterday.
Speaker 1: This is you know. Usually executives they want to come
Speaker 1: meet you and they'd be like, you know, come by yourself.
Speaker 1: He's like, where are you at? You at the studio.
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah. He's like, make sure all of your
Speaker 1: friends out there. So I'm like a cool So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've never heard of exact because I don't know what
Speaker 1: this pat. So he comes in. He got the rough
Speaker 1: draft for the jar U video. He puts it in.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you know, I see what's y'all? So
Speaker 1: what's y'all? This is I'm old school. I'm sorry. So
Speaker 1: he put it in pause cassette in the VH HAS
Speaker 1: player and I said back, I see myself like I'm
Speaker 1: my first, very first fan. Let's just be clear, like
Speaker 1: I'm my first fan, and nobody say they was Norri's
Speaker 1: first fan me, so it was me. So I see myself,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, shifting that up. Yeah, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're looking at the video, they see them sounds They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: all that's the whole video play. And then he stops
Speaker 1: and he goes it was popcorn. And I was like,
Speaker 1: because I hurt, man, it hurt. But I lived next
Speaker 1: to all the job till I got six cars. But
Speaker 1: his six cars is different from mines. I gotta they
Speaker 1: gotta made back. I gotta next school. We gotta drop,
Speaker 1: you know. So anyway, I tried to write here, you know,
Speaker 1: I tried to do this ship, and Leo said, I
Speaker 1: invested into Noriy, not pop. He wants to be like
Speaker 1: Jarro and I couldn't see it. He was one right
Speaker 1: at the time. But you know, you love yourself. Man.
Speaker 1: It's hard to look at yourself and say this is why.
Speaker 1: But it's hard. It was a good record. It was
Speaker 1: a good record. We should have done the record like
Speaker 1: it was. We did the record like we was bawling
Speaker 1: instead of saying, you know, I'm gonna live my life
Speaker 1: and like that. Like the regular Ship, we did the
Speaker 1: exact opposite. It's Little X. It's two times being a
Speaker 1: little I think Little X is very creative. I think
Speaker 1: he's very dope. I just think me and him his
Speaker 1: vocket and milk. It just don't mix milk. It just
Speaker 1: don't milk. You just don't mix because you know that
Speaker 1: video he messed up girls in that video, the one
Speaker 1: that you we always yeah girls girl video. So yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm band from TV to they shelved. He's like,
Speaker 1: it's not coming out. Oh no, straight up, you know,
Speaker 1: he said. He gave me a choice. He said, listen,
Speaker 1: this this is like their story said on a drink
Speaker 1: cat like three million times. But he says. So. I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, um, I'll make a deal with you
Speaker 1: right now if you can it. I won't let you
Speaker 1: eat up this budget. I'm gonna charge you to such
Speaker 1: and such, but you must make another record right now.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, what's up? He said? If I
Speaker 1: cut you, what would you plead to me? Like? You know?
Speaker 1: Of course, I said, I bleed blood. He said, Now
Speaker 1: asked me that question. I said, if I cut you,
Speaker 1: what would you bleed? He said I would bleed? Run
Speaker 1: DMC sucker m my body. And he said, now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you this question again. If I cut you,
Speaker 1: what would you bleed? I said, super thug? He said exactly.
Speaker 1: The car services downstairs. Oh boy, it wasn't for that.
Speaker 1: It makes a noise that. It's one of my favorite stories.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a gang of thugs like I was taking,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just I was just with the tough guy.
Speaker 1: Everybody was in Miami. No, No, this wasn't in Miami
Speaker 1: when we all came to the student This was new y'all,
Speaker 1: this right track recording studio. And I seen him coming
Speaker 1: by himself, like look everybody up and down. Don was like, yo,
Speaker 1: hit the weed, I think, and everything was like here,
Speaker 1: I know, y'all okay, because he's been he know, he's
Speaker 1: been on the tours run DMC who Jay Like, we're
Speaker 1: not showing him nothing new, We're just showing the new
Speaker 1: version of that. But anyway, that's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: hip hop stories. But I don't even know why we
Speaker 1: went there. Why did we go there? About videos about
Speaker 1: can videos? So he handed did it ever come? It
Speaker 1: came out? Didn't He got bootleg bootle years later? Years later,
Speaker 1: like I knew, like us online, you couldn't have nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, like at the time everybody had to stop sitting.
Speaker 1: Dick pis like around that time. I don't think it
Speaker 1: around that time. I throw that out there. He's the movie.
Speaker 1: He's the movie. You know break he's the way around
Speaker 1: that time. No, I gotta I finished the drinking work pressure.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know I can listen. Yeah, I goes in,
Speaker 1: goes in, I got my tooth pool up. He's going,
Speaker 1: I'm drinking with you because I want you to do that.
Speaker 1: So you said you said your favorite video, but you
Speaker 1: didn't say your most fun. You know, you said your
Speaker 1: most fun that that was your fun and favorite? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: fun and favorite. You remember which one you said? You
Speaker 1: know one of my favorites is my fiame music that
Speaker 1: was at the house. Yeah, because that time, you know,
Speaker 1: I had the penis on the camera right and I
Speaker 1: was by this let us adapter. You put it, you
Speaker 1: can put the film. Let us yet, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: that and make that. Let us let us do that.
Speaker 1: It's one of those I got. So this is before
Speaker 1: so you could put film Land's stuff on the on
Speaker 1: the camera to make the camera's big, so you know
Speaker 1: a little light all that's so Ross had the photo
Speaker 1: shoot with Manyon and at the carib and him up
Speaker 1: and photographer. You know what I'm saying. So he's doing
Speaker 1: the photo shooting like Ross like, let's shoot the video too.
Speaker 1: It's like that's when before things was piggyback and like
Speaker 1: I'm doing a photos shoot. Le's shot a music video
Speaker 1: the same stock you're into this house. We can pay
Speaker 1: you back off of it. So I shot that video.
Speaker 1: That's what probably kicked it off. And I gave him
Speaker 1: the beat to what I'm saying, so like so like
Speaker 1: it's different because from you from Raine treatments. I'm there
Speaker 1: because I'm giving ross to beat and I'm watching him
Speaker 1: rite and rhyn and ride on the song. So I'm
Speaker 1: already like, yo, you can do this, so you could
Speaker 1: see it. It's like it's a cheat code for me. Kids.
Speaker 1: I'm giving it the beat. He's making the music right there.
Speaker 1: I'm there when he first cuts it, so I already
Speaker 1: have that idea, Okay, this is what we're gonna do,
Speaker 1: and you're there for you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: a lot of records like that. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: kids right now. They write their music, they produced the
Speaker 1: music and baby Gil Greece, for real, what do you
Speaker 1: think about that? Gil? I think it's great, man. Like
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's like that's why you got so many
Speaker 1: like talented artists now because they have access. You remember
Speaker 1: probably back in the days, probably have to save a
Speaker 1: lot of money just to get in the studio. It's
Speaker 1: just now you can't you know, you can set up
Speaker 1: shop on your computer and you can cut. But the
Speaker 1: thing about it is, I think it lowers the quality.
Speaker 1: I think I think that you know, back then, like
Speaker 1: I couldn't do a song with Bust the rhymes unless
Speaker 1: he can't actually came to the studio, like there wasn't
Speaker 1: no different experience. Also, like me and os Body in
Speaker 1: the Trunk. Can you imagine if everybody hearty body in
Speaker 1: the Trunk and and I had to do it in
Speaker 1: your favorite would do it in California? Like everything? I wish.
Speaker 1: I want to shoot a video to that now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want. We're gonna do big Up, Big Up the
Speaker 1: Knives and massive phill. We got some things going together ba.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I want, I want. That's hard. That
Speaker 1: great idea. That's a great idea that masi thematic. Do
Speaker 1: you how about herb Gotti? Did you did you guys
Speaker 1: get a chance to see the tails? Because do you
Speaker 1: understand the concept of tails? Like he irv is taking
Speaker 1: a rap story of music. Let's say the police and
Speaker 1: he's doing a whole hour film about the police, about
Speaker 1: the one song. One song, but it's it's it's like
Speaker 1: it's making up the song. It's the song. I've been
Speaker 1: busy man, and I haven't seen it officially, Brownie hitting me.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know when your film gave me
Speaker 1: you know it's good? You know, did you know it's
Speaker 1: good when it would change from gummy to right amazing?
Speaker 1: Brown let to Mr Lee Guy's are Brownie right now?
Speaker 1: So explained with tales is yeah, I just told you
Speaker 1: neither so we did one on nor would it be
Speaker 1: about the song or but I know it sounds amazing,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it that they just take the song
Speaker 1: and then he creates a story story around visual story.
Speaker 1: We did the home Boy. How it's got the making
Speaker 1: of saying we did home Boy No no no, because
Speaker 1: it's like deeper songs. It's like, uh like you know,
Speaker 1: like like or something. I don't know if he did
Speaker 1: anybody all of us. He did Trap. So it's like like,
Speaker 1: so when I heard why we can't do Homeboard, they
Speaker 1: did Trapped? That I mean we win, like I'm not
Speaker 1: which is the one that he's there like the police.
Speaker 1: So his whole concept. You said, yeah, it turned it around.
Speaker 1: So instead of like black officers killing I mean, excuse me,
Speaker 1: white officers killing black kids, it was black officers killing
Speaker 1: white kids. And like the white kids are the kids
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood and the black kids are the people
Speaker 1: of privilege. So that's you know. I've seen the seeing
Speaker 1: clips on what I have on Instagram. I just haven't
Speaker 1: had a chance to sit down. I haven't even watched
Speaker 1: Love the Hip Hop Man and that I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan. I don't that's my modern day soap popular baby.
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm gonna throw that out there. I
Speaker 1: don't care. It's not real. Who cares? Who cares? Man storyline?
Speaker 1: As long as I'm not there, I'm great. But you
Speaker 1: know what it is, it's like Jerry Springer. Jerry's just
Speaker 1: horrible example. I listen, I don't care about these people
Speaker 1: real lives, but can't don't believe it. That's the Jerry
Speaker 1: Springer And that was like to, yeah, and you're getting
Speaker 1: money out there, so big up. Everybody's on Love the Man.
Speaker 1: I can't hate. What is it like a cinematic universe?
Speaker 1: They use all the love and hip hop people from
Speaker 1: l A and they come together. I feel like I
Speaker 1: just took him brown. Yeah, tell us definitely some lean bear.
Speaker 1: There's a lean bear right there. So now a new
Speaker 1: kid starts, he starts up. What is your advice when
Speaker 1: these keep your kids? These kids kids? Your kid asked
Speaker 1: me today, He's like, Yo, what do you do? I said,
Speaker 1: get where the artists. Stick with him and just build
Speaker 1: all your build your catalog with the artists you believe in. Somebody,
Speaker 1: just link with him or I'm not said, if you
Speaker 1: see somebody's poping, just run up to be like, I
Speaker 1: can shoot your video in the day, I can shoot
Speaker 1: your vlog, I can edit, I can do I g videos,
Speaker 1: I can do graphics. And I'm gonna stop. I stop
Speaker 1: and get kids numbers all the time. I said, your
Speaker 1: DM me boom, I go. I follow them back they
Speaker 1: and they reels and I go through shick. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think there's two kids. There's two types of kids
Speaker 1: that come up to about being a director. One they
Speaker 1: want to be that lifestyle of the director and they're
Speaker 1: not serious about a craft. Because there was a time
Speaker 1: when that's the third time there was like remember David
Speaker 1: Myers was on Cribs it was so big and large,
Speaker 1: and and every time their name came on, like on
Speaker 1: the bottom on the credits. So they were many at
Speaker 1: one point, they were like many superstars. And so there's
Speaker 1: just yeah, and there's and a lot of those, a
Speaker 1: lot of the casts in that era just like being
Speaker 1: man that lifestyle versus like really studying the craft and
Speaker 1: like how to take it up to the next level.
Speaker 1: And so you know, I always tell kids, follow the passion,
Speaker 1: don't follow the money because maybe like like different styles.
Speaker 1: It's like you're the do you put it all on screen,
Speaker 1: You're laid back, you're not too much around you, You're
Speaker 1: every Grammy show because remember I do music too now,
Speaker 1: like I got an album coming out of them. So
Speaker 1: he's been nominated as well because he's A and R.
Speaker 1: And the problems before we say if you're granted saying
Speaker 1: you know and you're getting exactly you're a part of it.
Speaker 1: Get so you know it's not just it's not directing
Speaker 1: from yourselves and executive producing, and then you know, not
Speaker 1: working on my own records, you know, like how you
Speaker 1: did with the line and and and you know Americans together,
Speaker 1: nobody was doing it really know what I did it
Speaker 1: before then maybe one TD that did like nas I
Speaker 1: think body all that was, but years was like I
Speaker 1: wasn't for that era. I was for years so being
Speaker 1: around there being your hype man on stage like hangman
Speaker 1: on stage, you know, and then you know just cross
Speaker 1: it right there. That's real ship right there. But um,
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying, Like your styles are like different,
Speaker 1: But how about this is legend. When I first seen this,
Speaker 1: I've never seen what I've seen Puffs Dirty Money video.
Speaker 1: Hype was directing it. It was like, think the second
Speaker 1: maybe the first time I seen him directing the video.
Speaker 1: He's nowhere on set, they're shooting upstairs. Downstairs, there's a
Speaker 1: blue tent. I walked into this blue tent. There's a
Speaker 1: seventies h D TV playing Avatar and he seen you there.
Speaker 1: That's hype though, how a legend. I wish I could
Speaker 1: do some ship. And then I've seen another video was
Speaker 1: that I forget But he's got a big gas stereo
Speaker 1: system and it's a rap video and he's playing whatever
Speaker 1: he wants. I'm playing Snoop Dogg right now and you
Speaker 1: just like blasted this music. Like then, how am I
Speaker 1: getting the vibe? Usually yeah, let's tell you a start.
Speaker 1: Cavatar brod Cai had that record with m was it Kanye?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, I was there for that video Gamily
Speaker 1: that they go hard hard hard. Yeah, we had like
Speaker 1: the out. It was go hard. They shot it on
Speaker 1: the set and they did you know at the time,
Speaker 1: like me and Kali family came up like shot all
Speaker 1: his all his come up videos. Has his own film studio,
Speaker 1: and you can go vibes and uh, but you know
Speaker 1: at certain times when when when you're working with the
Speaker 1: feature artists, that feature artists is big enough to tell
Speaker 1: the the artist, you know, we're working with this director.
Speaker 1: So I think Kanye demanded that we want for this
Speaker 1: calig video, Hype has to be the director. So Cali
Speaker 1: would call me on the line not knowing like Hype
Speaker 1: had no idea that at the time, Gil was shooting
Speaker 1: all Cali videos. So you're like, that's your man. He's like,
Speaker 1: not Gil, You're getting this Kanye video, Like damn, that's
Speaker 1: what's up. And then if they would be like CALLI
Speaker 1: had no idea what Hype was talking because he'd be
Speaker 1: like there was no treatment and and and Hype is
Speaker 1: in that rare area. He set the trend for so
Speaker 1: many other directors, you know, and I have so much
Speaker 1: respect for him and what he did. Yeah, so he
Speaker 1: just doesn't send it a treatment and call it's nervous
Speaker 1: because you know, he's spending his own money. And and
Speaker 1: so he asked me to be on the line and
Speaker 1: interpret what he's saying on the line, you know, and
Speaker 1: then for what I heard, like he just shows up
Speaker 1: and plays whatever music, like you said, they don't even
Speaker 1: have to be the track. But he's such an innovative
Speaker 1: thinker and sometimes just hit a miss. Sometimes people watch
Speaker 1: the hype videos and me like, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: But then every once in a while he raises the
Speaker 1: bar and does another thing that's crazy. They built like
Speaker 1: a tunnel was black. You just stood there and its direct.
Speaker 1: Hath direct and yeah, but like as an artist, like
Speaker 1: when Ross gets a set of French gets the center,
Speaker 1: artist get a set, they want to hear the verse
Speaker 1: or you want to if you want to hear your
Speaker 1: verse because you don't even remember doing the future play
Speaker 1: a little bit. Imagine coming this guy's fan of the
Speaker 1: office that would have been on my set to set
Speaker 1: a pressida right, yes, but now you suck it up
Speaker 1: with like the flame like that man, that's crazy that
Speaker 1: that hurt my friend. Like, okay, avatars legend, man, I
Speaker 1: might have let me get away where I talk. Come on, bro,
Speaker 1: you would have walked in and see what you never
Speaker 1: said the mill it was out two months before. I
Speaker 1: would have been like, you would have been like, let
Speaker 1: me watch you smoking and your handle's order them win.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah all that time. Okay, we canna get into it.
Speaker 1: But basically the first day we want to set, he's orders.
Speaker 1: He's like your Marie, you drink right. I'm like yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like a right co fucking case of Chris style,
Speaker 1: Like oh man, this need to be working with this man.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm like, right, were popping and he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: conya guy. All right, but six bottles Louis thirteen? Mind you?
Speaker 1: I'm fucking what four twenty six Louis around that time,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fun louis the thirteen. I'm
Speaker 1: a Hennessy kid, So I'm like, give me the pepsi.
Speaker 1: All the people want set. It's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's ruined Louis because you know that supposed to mix
Speaker 1: with the pepsi. Pepsi and ice. I'm just distress and
Speaker 1: he's an old old jees. They looking like oh my god,
Speaker 1: like they holding boom. That's like a shot. No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, the shots like fun I had a
Speaker 1: shot of that. It was like a drink. It was
Speaker 1: like wow, yeah, real ship. So I don't know I'm
Speaker 1: paying for all this. All right, let that out too early,
Speaker 1: But I know what I'm saying, but I don't know
Speaker 1: I'm paying for this. So it just repeated. It just keeps.
Speaker 1: Whatever I want, I just got it's at my disposal.
Speaker 1: But I'm just like a right cool to the last
Speaker 1: The Last World was like, first off, things had sent
Speaker 1: us to a hotel and I knew the budget, so
Speaker 1: when they sent us to this hotel, it was like
Speaker 1: it was the closest hotel that was next to Death
Speaker 1: Value was shot in Death Valley in Las Vegas. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was shot in the valley in Las Vegas. Well,
Speaker 1: the funny ship is when we went there, they said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we we gotta take this, these these vitamins
Speaker 1: because Masterpiece DP died yesterday, and they just said like
Speaker 1: it was normal, Like wait, wait a minute, what the
Speaker 1: fun did you just say? That's how hot It was
Speaker 1: in the desert. But even when we're moving on, we
Speaker 1: had the motherfucking the hotel. So I go in. I
Speaker 1: gotta take a ship. You know, the hotel is fucked up.
Speaker 1: This is this is a motown. I know we started
Speaker 1: with supposed being a long at motel, right, but they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the only This is the fourth day of shooting.
Speaker 1: By the way, Mondy, we shot two or three days
Speaker 1: and the like. This is after the Crystalle. Remember the
Speaker 1: Christal was one day, the Louis thirteen, but the next
Speaker 1: day that's two days of my boxing scene. We had
Speaker 1: it the first two takes. So anyway, I get to
Speaker 1: the joint, I'm like, so I'm taking a ship. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to suck it up and I'm taking a ship
Speaker 1: and I just feel somebody looking at me. But I'm looking.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, and it's a big ass spider right here.
Speaker 1: I said, so, no, no, I got the funk ab
Speaker 1: out of there, but got up a crazy sit was
Speaker 1: mad at my na. He was already knocked out sleep.
Speaker 1: I was like me, can I do this? So we
Speaker 1: jumped in the car. We went back to the Vese Boom.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you go back, and then when
Speaker 1: you know, when you go in the casino, you know
Speaker 1: it's in that pumps in your oxygen that it just
Speaker 1: keeps you up so dead tired. Like if you're still
Speaker 1: halfway up and you sit there, that oxygen is gonna
Speaker 1: hit you, you're gonna wake the funk back up. And
Speaker 1: so we woke up, got drinks, went back to the set.
Speaker 1: Me now we finally go to the set. They go
Speaker 1: to the set. So at first, since at first what happened,
Speaker 1: we were the dune Buggies because being you know, so
Speaker 1: you know we're city boys. Yea, my boys don't want
Speaker 1: the dune Buggies crash. This is what I knew. The
Speaker 1: desert is real. We crashed like so we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: the sat is right there. We kept walking at walking
Speaker 1: and walking. You know that Maurage is round, like yo,
Speaker 1: this just looks right there. We're walking like ten minutes like,
Speaker 1: oh y'all come guy. Like, So as I'm walking back,
Speaker 1: I see a girl walking up. Who um the chicken,
Speaker 1: So I take no, no, no. When they finally come
Speaker 1: get us to be getting you, so they come get us,
Speaker 1: be coming back, and then I see you know the
Speaker 1: chicken sautee. This is a very distinctive. At the time.
Speaker 1: I remember at this time, there's no there's no there's
Speaker 1: only too minuch of child it's only there's only too
Speaker 1: much of childs. At the time, there's New York and
Speaker 1: l A. It's not Lea cows. There's not these other
Speaker 1: you know, red sticks, these other people who make these
Speaker 1: you know chickens. So say, yeah, they ain't no more.
Speaker 1: They got another spot. There's just salt taste that just
Speaker 1: so taste on it. But so I see this chick
Speaker 1: so I'm like, yo, excuse me, Like where'd you get
Speaker 1: because they gotta seat and craft food. You know, they
Speaker 1: gotta eat what the what what the production is eating?
Speaker 1: And you know the duction food don't got no type
Speaker 1: of sauce, type of season. And I don't know why
Speaker 1: the people that people that made the production food don't
Speaker 1: let them taste bod y'all. They vanished in l A. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: flavor the only one recently, that's the only time I
Speaker 1: actually Spanish people. I don't even know how can do that?
Speaker 1: Just take what I said, Yo, when you get that hype,
Speaker 1: you are well hypes trailer. He had a whole thing
Speaker 1: full of Mr Chap like I'm talking about that ship
Speaker 1: smelled like the rest of them. When you walked in,
Speaker 1: you like that. You expect that they're gonna come up
Speaker 1: with you and like, what do you want, sir? Like
Speaker 1: Child said, yeah, this is esomelling your boys do your word,
Speaker 1: he said, I'll just well you. You had them driving
Speaker 1: up from l Baby saying what the l A one is?
Speaker 1: Track commercial? Like I stand came the so just womped
Speaker 1: like fourteen who city blocks and I was woken too.
Speaker 1: So I was just so hungry. I was got call
Speaker 1: my points are. We were mad. We wanted to be
Speaker 1: like you pictures what the people like. We're hungry though too,
Speaker 1: just tore it up. We left. We left with half
Speaker 1: of that ship. Yo, you know we're taking this ship
Speaker 1: had no use for us as an artist. At what
Speaker 1: point when you what's the point you realized that I
Speaker 1: just paid for that in your career. No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't see nil Levine that that was it. That
Speaker 1: was that moment, Like see, I knew the studio had
Speaker 1: to be rein birth. So I was always like a
Speaker 1: coarse effective guy, meaning to this day, I won't go
Speaker 1: to the studio unless I do four records, because I
Speaker 1: come from an era where it was no punching, Like
Speaker 1: you had to take ship back together. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: had to take it like I didn't want to, like ye,
Speaker 1: like when you messed up and you had everything one PI,
Speaker 1: they had to tape, it had to go back and
Speaker 1: re recorded. Yeah, so it takes so long to do
Speaker 1: that tape that you like, you just want to get
Speaker 1: it at the first tape, so like I used to
Speaker 1: just so I came from that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I was now I want to know, like when
Speaker 1: when you realize that the mister child everything a million
Speaker 1: dollar video that was your bank a loan from them,
Speaker 1: and when we came back because even the Lvani Lvan
Speaker 1: was there on a set with us, Like that's the
Speaker 1: one good thing about ven he was signing with me.
Speaker 1: But because because initially he had to pay the money
Speaker 1: back to this was Tommy boyfriend and then being there,
Speaker 1: you would think you'd be like yo, I would think
Speaker 1: he would say, but he left the moment. What is
Speaker 1: why I had to was in the same boat as
Speaker 1: he's in the same book, because he's sitting along from
Speaker 1: Tommy boy That's why I had, and I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the hype blade that I was about. The room I
Speaker 1: had was like it was it was like four of
Speaker 1: these officers Like I didn't it was spaces in the room.
Speaker 1: I didn't even see, like it was no need. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't even go over there, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like for real, they run to some crazy ship. For me,
Speaker 1: this was the time when they were spending money like craze.
Speaker 1: That's god, that's the nineties budgets. I just have a
Speaker 1: moment of silid sped nineties two thousand budgets. Please everybody
Speaker 1: just be quiet for the budgets that the rest of
Speaker 1: the peace. Oh man to the budget man, the budget
Speaker 1: start resist no more? Right spend you said the budgets,
Speaker 1: don't resist no more. Those budgets are drying the funk
Speaker 1: up right now, this something exists like it's like pop
Speaker 1: stars and like wore like hold on, they're not gonna
Speaker 1: make some drug dealing niggs. That would just be like
Speaker 1: they hit three hundred, right you do take. I didn't get.
Speaker 1: I might got the small really small. I never got
Speaker 1: the no no no no about that, like the being error.
Speaker 1: They were shooting videos, what shooting who was shooting to
Speaker 1: being videos. I don't know that. Did you do any No? No,
Speaker 1: I though somebody did. I think it's one of the
Speaker 1: classes everything. So that was shooting real big budget videos.
Speaker 1: Everything they did. So you O, g's are Nick that
Speaker 1: that whole We got a freshman class. Who was in
Speaker 1: your cover? I mean like Hype Williams Hunter, you know,
Speaker 1: Nick quested, Um, I see the cover in my head
Speaker 1: right now. I mean you know that Dave Myers, you know,
Speaker 1: he was real creative. He got to enjoy the nineties
Speaker 1: the best. I think he was killing people. Don't realize
Speaker 1: how much money these cats were baking.