Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, This is Martha Stewart. Kate Hudson is my guest.
Speaker 1: She is the effervescent, multi talented star of beloved films
Speaker 1: and television shows. Born into a show business family, she
Speaker 1: made her own indelible mark in Hollywood with her award
Speaker 1: winning role in the movie Almost Famous. She has since
Speaker 1: expanded into music with an album released last year, and
Speaker 1: into retail with a partnership with the brand fabe Letex,
Speaker 1: all the while raising three kids. You are probably seeing
Speaker 1: her all over your Netflix feed right now because she
Speaker 1: is the star of their newest original television series. It's
Speaker 1: a very funny comedy based on the life of La
Speaker 1: Lakers owner Jeanie Buss. Kate, Welcome to my podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to so you're like, you're like my hero.
Speaker 2: Just say you know very well by you.
Speaker 1: Well, I love programs like your new program.
Speaker 3: Oh thanks.
Speaker 1: I became enamored of Ted Lasso and watched the whole
Speaker 1: thing and learned a lot about the economics of sports,
Speaker 1: about the running of a sports team, about the emotions
Speaker 1: of working in the sports team world. Yeah, high stakes, yes,
Speaker 1: high stakes. So you must be having so much fun.
Speaker 2: So much fun, and really the show is about the
Speaker 2: family dynamic. You know, Jeanie Buss's life, She's carried on
Speaker 2: her father's legacy. And you know, when you it's like
Speaker 2: running a family business and your father passes away and
Speaker 2: you have not only the stakes of like the biggest
Speaker 2: basketball franchise, but but holding you know, like holding that
Speaker 2: that space with the family, which is so challenging.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you have how many brothers in the show?
Speaker 2: I have three brothers and who all have different positions
Speaker 2: in the family business. So I have one brother that's
Speaker 2: the CFO, one that's general manager, and when you meet me,
Speaker 2: I'm in charitable endeavors. And then my older brother is
Speaker 2: the president and then he has a situation and puts
Speaker 2: me in charge of the team.
Speaker 1: So that the show is called Running Point. Just started
Speaker 1: on February twenty seventh, so we're not too late to
Speaker 1: really get into this show now.
Speaker 2: And it was so exciting as people are watching it
Speaker 2: and they, you know, are enjoying it.
Speaker 3: So we're all so happy.
Speaker 1: And you might get a basketball team after you know,
Speaker 1: who knows, We're going to know so much.
Speaker 2: About exactly I said to Mindy when it happened, like
Speaker 2: you know, me Brenda Song, who plays my right hand
Speaker 2: in the show. We both have only brothers, so we
Speaker 2: only grew up with brothers.
Speaker 1: So how many brothers do you have?
Speaker 3: I have three? Well, I have three brothers that I
Speaker 3: was raised with.
Speaker 1: And now you have some hef Yeah, so I have five.
Speaker 3: Brothers and two sisters. Wow all together.
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot, a lot of kids. But grew up
Speaker 2: with the three boys, and so I was like, Mindy
Speaker 2: just knew like me, you could put me in a
Speaker 2: room full of boys and you could and I can
Speaker 2: handle it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get along and you can survive.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: So what's Genie like in person? I've never met her.
Speaker 2: She's really wonderful. I met Genie when I was like
Speaker 2: fourteen because our family were big Kings fans, like in
Speaker 2: the Golden era, Gretzki hockey era, and we'd go to
Speaker 2: all of the Kings games and Jeannie ran the Forum
Speaker 2: and she ran the Forum Club, which is where the
Speaker 2: bar was, and I was very naughty, so I'd always
Speaker 2: find my way into the Forum Club somehow, and she'd
Speaker 2: always come in and make sure that I wasn't getting
Speaker 2: into too much trouble as she was like, yeah, she
Speaker 2: can have an Arnold Palmer and we're like fifteen sixty.
Speaker 2: But I got to know her a little bit during
Speaker 2: those years, but then, you know, lost sight of that
Speaker 2: connection until now. So it's been really fun to reconnect.
Speaker 1: And so the writers of the show, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Mindy Kaling, Yeah, and Dave David Stassen are our showrunner,
Speaker 2: and Ike Baron Holtz and then just a great robust
Speaker 2: team of and they've.
Speaker 1: All meeting obviously done a tremendous amount of research into
Speaker 1: sports and running a sports team.
Speaker 2: Our show runner, Dave, he I think deep down feels
Speaker 2: that that is what he should be doing in life.
Speaker 3: He's a huge basketball fan.
Speaker 1: Well, if this is successful enough, I know you can
Speaker 1: all invest in a team exactly. That's my dream for you.
Speaker 3: We'll start a team. Will you come on board?
Speaker 1: You love sports? I love I love spectators sports.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's so fun, isn't it. The energy is the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much fun. I'm I'm a Knicks fan
Speaker 1: from way way back. Yeah, so it's so much fun
Speaker 1: to sit on the floor at Madison Square Garden and
Speaker 1: watch our Knicks sometimes win.
Speaker 3: I actually and how to lose a guy in ten days.
Speaker 3: There's a whole scene.
Speaker 2: It's a whole Knicks scene where it's the scene where
Speaker 2: I ask Matthew mcconnor, like, right at the important part
Speaker 2: of the game to like go get me a diet coke.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: We're head to toe Nick's gear. And so every time
Speaker 2: during this everybody think things, I'm a Knicks fan because
Speaker 2: of that movie, but I sadly have.
Speaker 3: To be like, well, no, I'm a Lakers fan.
Speaker 1: So Mindy, tell me about Mindy and working with her
Speaker 1: and what's her influence on the show.
Speaker 3: Mindy's fantastic.
Speaker 2: I mean, Mindy really set out to make a very
Speaker 2: funny show with the sort of pace that she's so
Speaker 2: well known for, kind of very fast paced comedic timing.
Speaker 2: But she really wanted to elevate this in the world
Speaker 2: that it is, which is quite glamorous and basketball and
Speaker 2: high stakes business. So when she and I met and
Speaker 2: I was like, is this the is the show that
Speaker 2: I'm reading the.
Speaker 3: Show you want to do?
Speaker 2: Because a a lot of times in comedy you find
Speaker 2: that the show that you're given becomes a little bit
Speaker 2: watered down and you get into the process and they
Speaker 2: don't want to take risks by having too many swear words,
Speaker 2: or that's being.
Speaker 1: As crazy or as Yeah, I'm working on a show
Speaker 1: like that right now, which is so weird. And Mine
Speaker 1: is a Mine's kind of a reality cooking show with
Speaker 1: Jose and Drace. It's a show about on chefs, all
Speaker 1: of whom know how to cook. They're not the greatest chefs,
Speaker 1: but they all have a problem that's keeping them from
Speaker 1: becoming a greater chef. So emotional anger management.
Speaker 3: Oh this sounds so fun.
Speaker 2: Now, how are you in the filming process? Did you
Speaker 2: have crazy hours?
Speaker 1: I'm still doing it. I go back to tomorrow.
Speaker 3: So it's crazy hours.
Speaker 1: Oh like fourteen hours.
Speaker 3: A day, isn't it crazy?
Speaker 1: And I'm standing or sitting on a stool and I
Speaker 1: am a wreck, and there's no time to get a massage,
Speaker 1: no time to get you right to sleep. Well, no,
Speaker 1: we always have to go out to dinner with Hosey's
Speaker 1: a chef, you know, and Jose has to have dinner
Speaker 1: every night. Sounds fun, even if it's it's so much fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's like your show. I mean, you're in a
Speaker 1: on the floor of a basketball My gosh.
Speaker 2: We are going on and our and our work hours
Speaker 2: were like fifteen hour days. I mean anywhere from twelve
Speaker 2: to fifteen hours. But we were downtown La.
Speaker 1: How many days? How many days in a row?
Speaker 3: Oh I'm working all every day? Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2: I very rarely had a day off. But like I'm
Speaker 2: like Jose because the second word downtown l A. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't live downtown in La. This is where all
Speaker 2: the Michelin star restaurants are, so we have to go
Speaker 2: to them. So after work, I'd be like, we gotta go.
Speaker 2: We have to go to this restaurant.
Speaker 1: Three hour Japanese meal the other night. Japanese French meal
Speaker 1: the other night in ls.
Speaker 3: L in Toronto. Yes, I've been there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, amazing, amazing, the aged sakes and then the
Speaker 1: and then the.
Speaker 3: Like that's my favorite.
Speaker 1: Oh so you're a foodie.
Speaker 2: I'm a big you Just you just said my Like
Speaker 2: my that's like my magic word. That's a puny montroche
Speaker 2: is like my.
Speaker 1: Favorite, isn't it the best?
Speaker 3: I can't even stand it?
Speaker 2: Like if you want a way right to my heart,
Speaker 2: I'm like one of those.
Speaker 3: Icy cold, thin thin Oh yes, yummy. I love food,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and I cook?
Speaker 1: Are you eating in New York it's just are you
Speaker 1: want to preach again? But right now?
Speaker 3: No, I'm here a lot. I'm here a lot.
Speaker 2: And but yeah, we've been doing all the press too.
Speaker 2: But my son goes to goes to school and performing
Speaker 2: art school the city.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh great.
Speaker 2: And and I can't believe it because he's he's almost
Speaker 2: done and he's going to be a senior next year.
Speaker 2: So he's a junior, he's twenty one, and I can't
Speaker 2: It's like wild to me.
Speaker 3: I just can't even believe he's He's wonderful.
Speaker 2: He's really smart, he's really funny, and he's like an
Speaker 2: awesome person to hang around.
Speaker 3: You know, he's just a good.
Speaker 1: So were you taking him to eat? Yeah?
Speaker 2: We go to all kinds of places, you know. I
Speaker 2: actually went to eleven Park. I went to Madison Love Park,
Speaker 2: Madison a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: You're not a vegan, are you?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No? What'd you think?
Speaker 3: I thought it was very good. I always miss a
Speaker 3: little meat.
Speaker 1: I took my grandchildren there for Mother's Day and their
Speaker 1: mother after about seven courses, they said, are we going
Speaker 1: to get anything to eat?
Speaker 3: And oh no, it wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: It was not their style of food.
Speaker 3: Did you have the chautaki course.
Speaker 1: No, we had. There's that other vegetable that he is
Speaker 1: enamored of. Forgetting the name of it. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: in Madison Park for all of you who don't know,
Speaker 1: is a vegan, highest end vegan restaurant in New York.
Speaker 1: And it is a superb place with a superb chef
Speaker 1: who has taken it to another.
Speaker 3: Level truly, and in the most amazing room.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 2: I went into their wine cellar. Of course I was
Speaker 2: there to like one in the morning because I can't
Speaker 2: ever leave restaurants, and I went into the wine cellar.
Speaker 3: What else has been I'm a big polo bar fan.
Speaker 1: Ralph's my next door neighbor. Oh really, he lives it
Speaker 1: next to me in Bedford. Has created amazing, amazing restaurant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it is packed every night. And if you don't
Speaker 1: know somebody, you don't get into the polo loud.
Speaker 3: It's such an amazing vibe.
Speaker 2: And also I just I was up in the in
Speaker 2: the back having a drink, having this amazing martini and
Speaker 2: I was like, with all of the paintings and the
Speaker 2: leather seats and the paneling, wood paneling, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I want to live in this energy all the time.
Speaker 1: You just call his office. They can do your entire
Speaker 1: house just like that. So back to your program, and
Speaker 1: your character works for the family business, as you said,
Speaker 1: And what do you think of family dynamics in the workplace? Oh?
Speaker 2: Interesting, I think the thing that I relate to it
Speaker 2: the most is being a only girl with all boys.
Speaker 2: It's sort of this desire to be validated by your breath.
Speaker 2: There's like wanting them to see you, but really in
Speaker 2: order for you to be seen, you have to yell
Speaker 2: and scream and try to get them to understand that
Speaker 2: you need to be heard. You know. It's like a
Speaker 2: little more complicated than just are they going to listen
Speaker 2: to you in the end.
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see to find out.
Speaker 1: That how many episodes have you done so far?
Speaker 2: And Netflix, you know, it just comes right out. So
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where it came out and
Speaker 2: the next day I was walking around New York and
Speaker 2: I had like three people come up to me and
Speaker 2: they're like, I saw the whole show last night, And
Speaker 2: so you sort of work for so many months and
Speaker 2: then people see it in one night and you're like.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was fast.
Speaker 1: Did you get to sing on the show?
Speaker 3: No? No, I don't think I love is a singer.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I think we're going to see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somehow somehow bring that into it, because that's that's
Speaker 1: a big thing for you to release an album. How brave?
Speaker 1: Thank you? It was really good reviews.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really special. And I did get to
Speaker 2: sing in this last movie I did with Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 2: Hugh and I have a film coming out. I don't
Speaker 2: know when, but we sing in that.
Speaker 1: Do you play the guitar also a guitar?
Speaker 3: Can?
Speaker 2: I can write on the guitar. I can write on
Speaker 2: the piano. I don't know if I'm comfortable. I mean,
Speaker 2: I like if we were, if I was at your
Speaker 2: house and I could pick up the guitar and I
Speaker 2: could play songs and sing, you know, But I'm not
Speaker 2: so sure i'd want to do that in front of
Speaker 2: a live audience.
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm ready for that yet.
Speaker 1: But have you been singing in front of.
Speaker 2: Like It's been one of the great experiences for me
Speaker 2: in my life right now, because I didn't think I
Speaker 2: was ever going to really do it, and I got
Speaker 2: to a certain place where I was like, oh, music
Speaker 2: is just not going to happen for me. And then
Speaker 2: when I during COVID sort of was able to reflect
Speaker 2: on my creative life up to that point.
Speaker 1: Which was very creative and very successful.
Speaker 3: Yes, but there was a huge thing missing, you know,
Speaker 3: the music.
Speaker 2: Music.
Speaker 3: It really was. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was like it was like, Oh, I'm so afraid
Speaker 2: to put this out in the world that I know
Speaker 2: deep down in the back of my head that I
Speaker 2: would never know what it would be or what it
Speaker 2: would have been.
Speaker 1: That's why I took this job with this new show.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I took it because I said, well, I haven't
Speaker 1: done that before. Yeah, I haven't done a primetime NBC show,
Speaker 1: prime time, this is ten PM, and I thought, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I might as well do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like that's kind of especially with people
Speaker 2: that are constantly wanting to be creative, you know. I
Speaker 2: think that's what keeps us the creative juices flowing, like
Speaker 2: we have to keep moving forward and do different So are.
Speaker 1: You going to do more albums? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh, could definitely.
Speaker 2: I love to write music. I've always loved to write music.
Speaker 2: I just thought it was going to be for myself.
Speaker 2: I never thought that I was going to be sharing
Speaker 2: it because I was too afraid to.
Speaker 3: But now that I.
Speaker 1: Finally did, your father or other thing.
Speaker 3: My dad, my dad.
Speaker 2: My father's a musician, my real father, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Bill Hudson, and he was in a band called the
Speaker 2: Hudson Brothers in the seventies. They had like a you know,
Speaker 2: a variety show, and I had some albums.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They were these real, literal like Italian American boys, very handsome,
Speaker 2: very charming, very wild. He's a musician. And my grandfather,
Speaker 2: my mother's side, was a professional violinist. He was a
Speaker 2: fiddle player and played in orchestra's in DC.
Speaker 3: That was his job. So music's definitely in our blood.
Speaker 1: An kids of yours with music, all of them, all
Speaker 1: of them, all of them.
Speaker 3: I'll show you Ronnie. We watched the Oscars and Ronnie.
Speaker 2: Was like four and a half when she met Cynthia.
Speaker 2: We met in a restaurant in London and we were talking.
Speaker 2: But Ronnie will never forget her because of her nails,
Speaker 2: her nails and her piercings.
Speaker 3: You know, she was just so loved her outfit.
Speaker 1: I asked her, I asked her if she could roll
Speaker 1: out pie cross.
Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, I can, I can roll out crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sitting with our guest who has kind of
Speaker 1: a beautiful almost a pale magenta nail polish with many
Speaker 1: diamonds on each.
Speaker 3: One, very very dim.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fabulous.
Speaker 2: So Ronnie's obsessed with Cynthia. But at the oscars that
Speaker 2: note you know, the end of wicked, you know of
Speaker 2: defined gravity, Ronnie is belting out and hits it right
Speaker 2: on key. Oh right, I'm gonna I'll play it for you.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: She is definitely got music.
Speaker 1: She's just she's gonna say musical thing.
Speaker 3: Six and a half.
Speaker 1: Oh boy.
Speaker 2: My middle son is a brilliant drummer and is one
Speaker 2: of those types of brains that can pick up any
Speaker 2: instrument and start playing it right away and figure it out,
Speaker 2: which is I'm very envious of. And my son Rider
Speaker 2: is a taste maker in terms of music, like plays
Speaker 2: the guitar, has a wonderful voice, great tone, and and
Speaker 2: loves like has just great taste in music. Is the
Speaker 2: kind of person who like finds things that nobody's heard
Speaker 2: of and sends them to me.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you should be an an r right.
Speaker 2: Music business and our discovering talent, you know. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: they're all really musical.
Speaker 1: So you work with my friend Jason Owen.
Speaker 3: Yes, Jason's my manager.
Speaker 1: My music managers your music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so Jason manages me and Jake who's here
Speaker 2: backing as well.
Speaker 1: So now you have your brother Oliver, yes, and you
Speaker 1: have a podcast we do.
Speaker 2: It's called Sibling Revelry, and we explore sibling relationships. And
Speaker 2: it kind of started as like, Okay, let's just this
Speaker 2: could be fun, you know, years ago, and then it
Speaker 2: just took off and we love it. We love doing it.
Speaker 2: It keeps us totally.
Speaker 1: We do one.
Speaker 3: We do about fifty a year.
Speaker 1: That's a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we we do quite a bit.
Speaker 1: All of it is a little bit more and it's
Speaker 1: sort of an open ended so since there are so
Speaker 1: many sibling rival reasons yeah, in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I really do. We also go into other things,
Speaker 2: you know, we interview people that inspire us. And because
Speaker 2: our sibling dynamic is so crazy and Oliver is just
Speaker 2: hilarious and nobody makes me laugh like Olie, and so
Speaker 2: we also like, as you know, when you you have
Speaker 2: to open things up a little bit, and you can't
Speaker 2: always get siblings. So We also bring on people that
Speaker 2: we are inspired by and kind of you know, talk
Speaker 2: to them about their family dynamic.
Speaker 3: It's so much fun. I love talking to people.
Speaker 1: Well, obviously you look at you. She's a very talkative person.
Speaker 1: I am a very smiling and beautiful person.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: Everybody's like, God, don't you hate doing press? I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: because I love people. Are you still cooking?
Speaker 1: Sorry?
Speaker 3: I'm now always yet cooking all the time?
Speaker 1: Not all the time. I mean, if I want to eat,
Speaker 1: I have to cook.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't have a cook And what so you
Speaker 3: don't No?
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I don't have a cook in my house. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm like that too.
Speaker 1: If I have a big party, I'll have I'll have Pierre,
Speaker 1: my chef who runs a catering business. Okay, but no, no,
Speaker 1: I call I call him, I say, come on, we
Speaker 1: want to do dinner for thirty.
Speaker 3: And what about your like, what do you do your
Speaker 3: garden all the time? And do you do it or do.
Speaker 1: I was in the garden this morning. I'm restoring a
Speaker 1: pond right now, which you would love. It's a beautiful
Speaker 1: old pond on my property, not too big. We've lined
Speaker 1: the whole edges with stone. We've we've taken all the
Speaker 1: all the leaves from I don't think it's ever been
Speaker 1: cleaned for one hundred years, this pond, so we've cleaned
Speaker 1: it all out. I want it for my geese. I
Speaker 1: have a world collection of geese. So I have every
Speaker 1: geese from many countries.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and they're beautiful.
Speaker 1: And I want them to have their own ponds.
Speaker 3: So you don't have dogs. Oh yes, they don't eat
Speaker 3: your geese. Yes, that's what mind you.
Speaker 1: But they must say that's why the geese are in
Speaker 1: one place.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you this too, because you started
Speaker 1: acting at such a young age. What was your first
Speaker 1: first job?
Speaker 2: My first, I actually got a part in Party of Five.
Speaker 2: I played this guest starring role who took Nev Campbell's
Speaker 2: boyfriend kind of away from her, you know, And that
Speaker 2: was my first gig. I was sixteen. But then I
Speaker 2: finished school and then I went at eighteen, actually got
Speaker 2: into NYU and begged my parents to defer for a
Speaker 2: year to see if I could start acting, and then
Speaker 2: I just started getting part So my first my first
Speaker 2: role was this movie called Desert Blue, and then two
Speaker 2: hundred Cigarettes, which was it's actually kind of became a
Speaker 2: bit of a cult classic. It's this big ensemble movie
Speaker 2: about New Year's Eve, and like Elvis Costello's has a
Speaker 2: cameo in it, and it's like Ben Affleck, Martha Plimpton
Speaker 2: and Christina Ricci and Casey Affleck and Paul run All
Speaker 2: teen Dave Chappelle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, yeah, well too. I was a excitor.
Speaker 1: I have to see this. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: It's a fun one.
Speaker 2: And actually j Moore, who's now married to Jeanie Buss,
Speaker 2: the president of the Lakers, is the guy that I'm
Speaker 2: on the date with in two hundred Cigarettes.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: And at the time, I was eighteen or nineteen, so
Speaker 2: it's one of my first things I'd ever done.
Speaker 3: And then almost famous, really, I.
Speaker 1: Mean there was, and then you go and make almost
Speaker 1: famous and you get a golden globe. Yeah, so amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really your mother must have been so proud.
Speaker 2: They were so excited and also nervous. I think that
Speaker 2: it happened so quick. You know, I was twenty one,
Speaker 2: you know, getting nominated. Yes, yeah, I think they were
Speaker 2: just wanted to make sure that they were just hoping
Speaker 2: I think deep down they were just hoping that I
Speaker 2: kind of wouldn't win everything because they want wanted me
Speaker 2: to have a long career, you know, and sort of like.
Speaker 3: You know, coming in soon, too soon. Yeah, And I
Speaker 3: don't believe in that, you don't know.
Speaker 1: I think the more you can get, the better. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of with you on that one. But at
Speaker 3: the time, I feel like it was such a different
Speaker 3: era and people who got like Oscar is really young
Speaker 3: ended up not really having.
Speaker 2: A statistically a long career. So I think they were
Speaker 2: just a little bit concerned there. But I lost, so
Speaker 2: it all turned out okay, But.
Speaker 1: Then you got another Golden Globe, and didn't you get
Speaker 1: an Oscar?
Speaker 2: I got was nominated for and I won the Golden
Speaker 2: Globe Best Supporting Actress. Yeah, and then I got and
Speaker 2: then I was nominated for an Oscar and then I
Speaker 2: was nominated for a Globe another time as well.
Speaker 1: Well that's great for a young actress.
Speaker 2: Yes, and then I and then I kind of smise,
Speaker 2: look and I think about my career and I'm just
Speaker 2: so grateful that it's been so long. I've had such
Speaker 2: a long career so far, you know, because it doesn't
Speaker 2: that's rare. Adrian Brodie was saying that on the stage
Speaker 2: ony one, you do realize acting is different. It's part
Speaker 2: of the reason why I started at business is that
Speaker 2: there's a lot of power that doesn't exist that you
Speaker 2: can't hold as an actor because you're kind of a
Speaker 2: hired gun.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like they either want you or they don't, and
Speaker 2: you're sort of at the whim of if there, if
Speaker 2: it's something they're into. So starting a business for me
Speaker 2: was like my way of taking a little bit of
Speaker 2: control of my life, right.
Speaker 1: And being independent of the forces that you couldn't control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's terribly important. But you're telligent enough and knowledgeable
Speaker 1: enough to be able to do that, and that's really great,
Speaker 1: and that you can concentrate that you can find the
Speaker 1: time to do it. And how many do you have?
Speaker 1: Four children? And how many husbands have you had?
Speaker 3: One? But I've been but I have three three dads.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh, that's right, you have more dads than you
Speaker 1: have husbands. That's right.
Speaker 2: I was married once, yeah, and then then I met
Speaker 2: Bing's father and then that didn't work out, and I'm
Speaker 2: with now I'm with my third baby daddy and we're
Speaker 2: doing great.
Speaker 1: So far, so good husbands. I count those.
Speaker 3: It really.
Speaker 2: Husbands, and we're in it together. You know, we've got
Speaker 2: such a really strong unit. It's really I've surprised myself,
Speaker 2: you know. And being able to like continue having such
Speaker 2: a great connection with the family is like the whole family,
Speaker 2: including my exes and their partners.
Speaker 3: It's it's it is actually great is because there's a
Speaker 3: positive to it.
Speaker 2: It's like they have so much family, there's so I mean,
Speaker 2: they've got multiple grandma's, multiple grandpas, multiple dads and mom.
Speaker 1: And then they'll pick and choose who they really really connected, yeah,
Speaker 1: and kind of forge those relationships.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's interesting, and I think a lot of
Speaker 2: it does come from being able to separate your personal
Speaker 2: experiences with your chilled with what's best for your kids.
Speaker 1: You know. So your kids range from six to what.
Speaker 3: To twenty one?
Speaker 1: Twenty?
Speaker 3: That's good having kids. My entire adult life, I was
Speaker 3: super young with brighter for this day and age. It
Speaker 3: was very young, and I'm so happy I did it.
Speaker 3: You know, Like I think everybody thought I was nuts,
Speaker 3: but I didn't think I was nuts. And now in retrospect,
Speaker 3: I wasn't.
Speaker 1: A twenty one year old, which is so fun. So
Speaker 1: your mom is an amazing comedic actress. Did she teach
Speaker 1: you how to be funny or you just funny?
Speaker 2: Oh she's much goofier, she's much sillier. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: I'm much more serious of a person. I think and controlled.
Speaker 1: You're taller than your mom.
Speaker 3: I'm taller than my mom, although my mom's at the
Speaker 3: other day She's like, no, it's not fair. I shrunk.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I have always been a little taller than mom. We
Speaker 2: have the same size foot. We have the same looking foot,
Speaker 2: like it's literally identical. We have an identical foot, which
Speaker 2: is so cute. And then she got a tattoo. I
Speaker 2: got a star on my tattoo, and for her sixtieth birthday,
Speaker 2: she got a heart where my star is on her foot.
Speaker 3: And so when we put our feet together, they look
Speaker 3: exactly the same. She has a heart, And is.
Speaker 1: That your only tattoo?
Speaker 3: That's it?
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: I was a whimp. It was wastty much bigger. And
Speaker 3: then I got one star, and I'm like, I'm out. No.
Speaker 3: My boys love tattoos.
Speaker 1: They do. They're getting tattooed all over.
Speaker 2: Riders got quite a few I'm just like, just stay
Speaker 2: away from the neck, you know, neck down.
Speaker 3: Just help me out. I don't want face tattoos, please.
Speaker 2: Rider got a tattoo that I hate so much that
Speaker 2: it was where I drew the line. I'm like, nope,
Speaker 2: that's coming off. And he was like, Mom, you can't
Speaker 2: said private.
Speaker 3: No, No, it's this terrible tattoo on his calf. It's
Speaker 3: like a scribble. And I was like, no, it's a
Speaker 3: terrible tattoo. It's so bad that it's where I draw
Speaker 3: a line as a mother, I don't care that you're
Speaker 3: an adult. It's gotta go and he's gonna get it
Speaker 3: taken on.
Speaker 1: You're one of the memorable leading ladies of the rom
Speaker 1: calumn genre. I guess. And what kind of movies do
Speaker 1: you like to watch yourself? What do you watch?
Speaker 3: I like period pieces?
Speaker 1: What about? What about this? The last slew of weird
Speaker 1: movies that were nominated for Oscars?
Speaker 3: No, there's just something you said weird.
Speaker 1: No, there's an editorial Times a Day, and I totally
Speaker 1: agree with it. Tell me it's about how where where
Speaker 1: are the movies? They're all so weird?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well because because the industry is changing It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you either have these very small indie movies
Speaker 2: that sort of break out or you have these monster, big,
Speaker 2: you know film you know, so there's like no in between,
Speaker 2: not much like what not in between.
Speaker 3: Because no one's investing in the like, you know, forty
Speaker 3: five million dollar movies.
Speaker 1: In between? Is White Lotus?
Speaker 3: Yeah, or a Stranger Things? In between? Isn't know what
Speaker 3: it's called in between.
Speaker 1: I got a call. I got a call last week
Speaker 1: from my granddaughter who is now thirteen, and she said,
Speaker 1: Stranger Things is going to be on Broadway? Can you
Speaker 1: get tickets? Oh?
Speaker 3: Is it? Is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It opens and I think it's April. That's exciting
Speaker 1: at April twenty second or something. And so I got
Speaker 1: her opening night tickets because Netflix is producing it.
Speaker 3: Oh how fun?
Speaker 1: So she and so she she knows all those things
Speaker 1: ahead of time because she's very into music and drama
Speaker 1: and all that.
Speaker 3: Did you see any of the movies?
Speaker 1: Oh? I saw, I saw every single one.
Speaker 3: What was your favorite?
Speaker 1: The Brutalist?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean too.
Speaker 1: I loved and I love. He's my neighbor.
Speaker 3: Oh he's Oh he's there too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He lives around the corner with missus Chapman. I
Speaker 1: know they are lovely.
Speaker 3: I know there's I'm so an Adrian forever.
Speaker 1: We watched we watched three and a half hours with
Speaker 1: a dinner break at a friend's house.
Speaker 3: Isn't it great?
Speaker 1: Oh it's so great.
Speaker 3: I could watch that.
Speaker 1: And he is a superior actor.
Speaker 3: Phenomenal period And that film is fantastic.
Speaker 1: And I and although I loved the Bob Dylan movie
Speaker 1: with Timothy.
Speaker 3: Complete Unknown is ever the cutest.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's so cute. I can't I don't like the mustache. Oh,
Speaker 1: I like, I don't like it. I do.
Speaker 2: But you know what I was thinking about him last night.
Speaker 2: He he's so fun and he's got this like that
Speaker 2: youthful energy that he's such an easy target for people
Speaker 2: to like kind of make fun with. But he's such
Speaker 2: a great sport, comes from like stock, Yes, you know,
Speaker 2: And but I like that he I think that sometimes
Speaker 2: people think that acting is like just happens instead of
Speaker 2: instead of the art form and being in pursuit.
Speaker 1: He's made us, he's made us understand. He said he's
Speaker 1: worked on that movie for five years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I and yeah, and.
Speaker 1: I can see that. I can see it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love Bob Dylan.
Speaker 3: So he's my number one? Is he number one?
Speaker 1: He was my number one for a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Bob's whole thing is just what an incredible like what
Speaker 3: an incredible magical human he is, you know, like he's
Speaker 3: just magic to me. And I got the luck of
Speaker 3: being able to be on tour with him with my
Speaker 3: ex husband, really yeah, because my ex husband was on tour,
Speaker 3: and then we did a bunch of they did a
Speaker 3: bunch of gigs like together. Did you like Anura? Did
Speaker 3: you see it?
Speaker 1: You know? I didn't like Nora interesting. I didn't like
Speaker 1: it at all.
Speaker 3: There were a lot of people who felt that way.
Speaker 1: I just like the story. I didn't. I didn't like anything.
Speaker 3: You should do you should do movie reviews. I should
Speaker 3: it would be so that that would be fine. Everybody
Speaker 3: would be like terrified, they'd.
Speaker 1: Be like, I loved it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't it so great?
Speaker 1: Oh? I was a Tell Your Ride and watched it
Speaker 1: there with all of them, everybody who was in so
Speaker 1: I met all the whole cast. I just loved it. Oh,
Speaker 1: it was amazing. And I was glad for Zoe to
Speaker 1: get her kid. I really was. She is some actress.
Speaker 1: I love her and the Lioness. So I just worked
Speaker 1: with your co star Matthew McConaughey, Oh you did, I did.
Speaker 1: I did a super Bowl commercial.
Speaker 3: How was that? Was he wild?
Speaker 1: He's got me scared actually, because I mean, oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 1: he scared me. And I'm there. I am I'm a
Speaker 1: board member. I'm a board member of the of Uberges. Yes.
Speaker 1: And did you see the commercial? Yeah, I'm the one.
Speaker 1: I'm the one who is making the sod. Yes. And
Speaker 1: so Matthew to get into characters, he had to play
Speaker 1: many characters in that commercial.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he is a method actor of like I think commercials,
Speaker 1: no of I mean like just life. Yeah, of characters
Speaker 1: because he had to pay play ten characters, and and
Speaker 1: he got into each character in a like it took
Speaker 1: takes him about fifteen minutes to get makes.
Speaker 3: A weird sound.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you do that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh it makes the sounds oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Grunts, grunting and breathing, jump yeah, and jumping up and down.
Speaker 1: And that scared me.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh yeah, you get used to it. I bet
Speaker 3: after like the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: You probably want You just wanted to tell him to
Speaker 1: shut the hell out.
Speaker 3: You just wait he wait for him his warm up.
Speaker 3: But work with Oh, yeah, we have some fun when
Speaker 3: we're working. It's been a long time.
Speaker 1: I watched that How To Lose a Guy in ten years.
Speaker 1: I thought that was really good.
Speaker 3: It's O thanks. I love that movie.
Speaker 2: So McConaughey is like one of the most fun people
Speaker 2: to work with for me because energetically we're both very
Speaker 2: competitive and so we have this like thing when we're
Speaker 2: working together that's really fun.
Speaker 3: It's really good, kind of.
Speaker 1: Like to one like, yeah, who has more energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also we're both, you know, very flirtatious, so
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: You get that from him. Boy, he's he's fabulous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's super charismatic.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there anything that you haven't done in your
Speaker 1: career that you hope to do?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: What's a dream project? What haven't you done?
Speaker 2: A lot of things? I really want to direct, That's
Speaker 2: something I've always wanted to do. I really want to
Speaker 2: write a musical. Yeah, I love fun.
Speaker 3: I really love to do that.
Speaker 2: And you're like, you really are one of my heroes.
Speaker 2: Like I have this domestic sound of me where it
Speaker 2: comes to like but but but a creative domestic side,
Speaker 2: whether it's like lifestyle that I love that I still
Speaker 2: don't feel like I've tapped into, you know that at
Speaker 2: some point I want to figure out what that really
Speaker 2: looks like, you know, because I just.
Speaker 1: I love, like, what kind of architecture do you like?
Speaker 2: I'm a bit I'm oh, I mean it's endless, but
Speaker 2: I'm a big like English tutor. Oh really yeah, I
Speaker 2: like very traditional architecture. But then there's another side of
Speaker 2: me that also likes the more like hippie kind of
Speaker 2: sort of Grecian Mediterranean style.
Speaker 1: When I saw that room in the Brutalist, that first
Speaker 1: room that he designed, oh I ah, the soul I want, No,
Speaker 1: I really want. That room wasn't an amazing library that
Speaker 1: he designed in that house in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: But see, I really appreciate that because that to me
Speaker 3: feels very Bohemian, right because you have these sort of
Speaker 3: like incredible like this incredible light in this old house, yes,
Speaker 3: with this kind of mid century expression, gantiful.
Speaker 2: And I and I love table settings. My daughter one
Speaker 2: time said that's what she wanted to be when she
Speaker 2: when she was like five, she wanted to be a
Speaker 2: table set up.
Speaker 3: How I'm going to be a table set up or
Speaker 3: what do you mean when you grow up? Ronnie a
Speaker 3: table setup r because.
Speaker 1: She just she like she loves the landscape.
Speaker 3: Oh and she loves like brunch, big brunch tables with
Speaker 3: like little pots of things everywhere.
Speaker 1: How do you manage the family while you're off shooting
Speaker 1: a ten week program?
Speaker 3: I mean that's hard.
Speaker 1: That is hard, you know.
Speaker 3: I think now that they're a little bit older, it's
Speaker 3: a little bit easier. Ronnie comes with me, she does. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll bring Ronnie if I'm gone for more homeschool four days, No,
Speaker 3: but if I'm gone for more than four or five days,
Speaker 3: I'll bring her with me. And then that will change
Speaker 3: when she gets a little bit older.
Speaker 1: Yeahs like she could still do that. And when they
Speaker 1: get into like, no, seventh grade again, they don't want
Speaker 1: to no, and it's not the one that they don't
Speaker 1: want to miss school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, right now, we've been dealing with the fires.
Speaker 2: We are in the Palisades, so we kind of were
Speaker 2: out of the area for a long time.
Speaker 3: We're just going to be able to go back soon.
Speaker 1: Where have you been living all over?
Speaker 2: Like we've been living in a hotel, We were living
Speaker 2: in a you know, we've been trapped.
Speaker 3: So I took the kids with me on this press
Speaker 3: tour because.
Speaker 1: And your dog.
Speaker 2: The dogs are at this woman's house, who's amazing, and
Speaker 2: she's been but I miss I mean, it's it's definitely
Speaker 2: been a very bizarre couple months for our family, very sad.
Speaker 2: We're lucky that our house is still there, but it's
Speaker 2: still just a complete adjustment to a new a new.
Speaker 1: Whole new thing. And I liked that on the oscars
Speaker 1: they were asking for people to be charitable still to
Speaker 1: do the victims of the of the fighters. I thought
Speaker 1: that was very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's I think sometimes because do you think
Speaker 2: it's la and it's all only fancy people, But it's not.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a big, really large community, generational, right
Speaker 2: you know who's the crew on the movies? Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: all every you know the people that also have had
Speaker 2: houses that.
Speaker 3: Have been sort of you know, inherited. And when will.
Speaker 1: We see you on screen with your mother?
Speaker 3: Oh? Everyone always asks that, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, I mean or Kurt Russell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Kurt, I love my I love Paus
Speaker 2: so much. He's he's actually working with my brother right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because they do Godzilla together, oh for Apple and and
Speaker 2: they just went back and did their season two and
Speaker 2: not I do get a little jealous.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh fun. I got to work with my
Speaker 3: dad on Deepwater Horizon, but we.
Speaker 2: Didn't we didn't have any scenes to get with, like
Speaker 2: one little moment together. And then I directed him in
Speaker 2: a short that I directed years ago, so that was
Speaker 2: really fun. And Kurt is just I just he's my
Speaker 2: Even if he wasn't my father, he would probably still
Speaker 2: be one of my favorite actors of all time. And
Speaker 2: I have so much respect for his craft and hiss
Speaker 2: like what he's put out in the world.
Speaker 1: It's just so so well. I've kept you over time
Speaker 1: that and it's a very nice conversation. Thank you very
Speaker 1: much and a pleasure to talk to you. Be sure
Speaker 1: everyone to watch Running Point on Netflix now and follow
Speaker 1: at Kate Hudson on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Thanks for Marta