WEBVTT - Playing a Boss with Kate Hudson

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone, This is Martha Stewart. Kate Hudson is my guest.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the effervescent, multi talented star of beloved films

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<v Speaker 1>and television shows. Born into a show business family, she

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<v Speaker 1>made her own indelible mark in Hollywood with her award

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<v Speaker 1>winning role in the movie Almost Famous. She has since

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<v Speaker 1>expanded into music with an album released last year, and

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<v Speaker 1>into retail with a partnership with the brand fabe Letex,

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<v Speaker 1>all the while raising three kids. You are probably seeing

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<v Speaker 1>her all over your Netflix feed right now because she

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<v Speaker 1>is the star of their newest original television series. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a very funny comedy based on the life of La

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers owner Jeanie Buss. Kate, Welcome to my podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to so you're like, you're like my hero.

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<v Speaker 2>Just say you know very well by you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I love programs like your new program.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>I became enamored of Ted Lasso and watched the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing and learned a lot about the economics of sports,

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<v Speaker 1>about the running of a sports team, about the emotions

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<v Speaker 1>of working in the sports team world. Yeah, high stakes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>high stakes. So you must be having so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So much fun, and really the show is about the

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<v Speaker 2>family dynamic. You know, Jeanie Buss's life, She's carried on

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<v Speaker 2>her father's legacy. And you know, when you it's like

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<v Speaker 2>running a family business and your father passes away and

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<v Speaker 2>you have not only the stakes of like the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>basketball franchise, but but holding you know, like holding that

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<v Speaker 2>that space with the family, which is so challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and you have how many brothers in the show?

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<v Speaker 2>I have three brothers and who all have different positions

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<v Speaker 2>in the family business. So I have one brother that's

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<v Speaker 2>the CFO, one that's general manager, and when you meet me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in charitable endeavors. And then my older brother is

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<v Speaker 2>the president and then he has a situation and puts

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<v Speaker 2>me in charge of the team.

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<v Speaker 1>So that the show is called Running Point. Just started

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<v Speaker 1>on February twenty seventh, so we're not too late to

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<v Speaker 1>really get into this show now.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was so exciting as people are watching it

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<v Speaker 2>and they, you know, are enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're all so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>And you might get a basketball team after you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows, We're going to know so much.

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<v Speaker 2>About exactly I said to Mindy when it happened, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, me Brenda Song, who plays my right hand

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<v Speaker 2>in the show. We both have only brothers, so we

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<v Speaker 2>only grew up with brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>So how many brothers do you have?

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<v Speaker 3>I have three? Well, I have three brothers that I

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<v Speaker 3>was raised with.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you have some hef Yeah, so I have five.

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<v Speaker 3>Brothers and two sisters. Wow all together.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot, a lot of kids. But grew up

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<v Speaker 2>with the three boys, and so I was like, Mindy

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<v Speaker 2>just knew like me, you could put me in a

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<v Speaker 2>room full of boys and you could and I can

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<v Speaker 2>handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can get along and you can survive.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's Genie like in person? I've never met her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's really wonderful. I met Genie when I was like

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen because our family were big Kings fans, like in

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<v Speaker 2>the Golden era, Gretzki hockey era, and we'd go to

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<v Speaker 2>all of the Kings games and Jeannie ran the Forum

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<v Speaker 2>and she ran the Forum Club, which is where the

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<v Speaker 2>bar was, and I was very naughty, so I'd always

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<v Speaker 2>find my way into the Forum Club somehow, and she'd

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<v Speaker 2>always come in and make sure that I wasn't getting

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<v Speaker 2>into too much trouble as she was like, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>can have an Arnold Palmer and we're like fifteen sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>But I got to know her a little bit during

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<v Speaker 2>those years, but then, you know, lost sight of that

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<v Speaker 2>connection until now. So it's been really fun to reconnect.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the writers of the show, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Mindy Kaling, Yeah, and Dave David Stassen are our showrunner,

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<v Speaker 2>and Ike Baron Holtz and then just a great robust

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<v Speaker 2>team of and they've.

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<v Speaker 1>All meeting obviously done a tremendous amount of research into

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<v Speaker 1>sports and running a sports team.

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<v Speaker 2>Our show runner, Dave, he I think deep down feels

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<v Speaker 2>that that is what he should be doing in life.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a huge basketball fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if this is successful enough, I know you can

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<v Speaker 1>all invest in a team exactly. That's my dream for you.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll start a team. Will you come on board?

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<v Speaker 1>You love sports? I love I love spectators sports.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's so fun, isn't it. The energy is the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so much fun. I'm I'm a Knicks fan

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<v Speaker 1>from way way back. Yeah, so it's so much fun

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<v Speaker 1>to sit on the floor at Madison Square Garden and

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<v Speaker 1>watch our Knicks sometimes win.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually and how to lose a guy in ten days.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a whole scene.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a whole Knicks scene where it's the scene where

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<v Speaker 2>I ask Matthew mcconnor, like, right at the important part

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<v Speaker 2>of the game to like go get me a diet coke.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We're head to toe Nick's gear. And so every time

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<v Speaker 2>during this everybody think things, I'm a Knicks fan because

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<v Speaker 2>of that movie, but I sadly have.

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<v Speaker 3>To be like, well, no, I'm a Lakers fan.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mindy, tell me about Mindy and working with her

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<v Speaker 1>and what's her influence on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Mindy's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Mindy really set out to make a very

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<v Speaker 2>funny show with the sort of pace that she's so

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<v Speaker 2>well known for, kind of very fast paced comedic timing.

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<v Speaker 2>But she really wanted to elevate this in the world

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<v Speaker 2>that it is, which is quite glamorous and basketball and

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<v Speaker 2>high stakes business. So when she and I met and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, is this the is the show that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm reading the.

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<v Speaker 3>Show you want to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Because a a lot of times in comedy you find

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<v Speaker 2>that the show that you're given becomes a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>watered down and you get into the process and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to take risks by having too many swear words,

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<v Speaker 2>or that's being.

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<v Speaker 1>As crazy or as Yeah, I'm working on a show

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<v Speaker 1>like that right now, which is so weird. And Mine

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<v Speaker 1>is a Mine's kind of a reality cooking show with

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<v Speaker 1>Jose and Drace. It's a show about on chefs, all

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<v Speaker 1>of whom know how to cook. They're not the greatest chefs,

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<v Speaker 1>but they all have a problem that's keeping them from

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a greater chef. So emotional anger management.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh this sounds so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, how are you in the filming process? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>have crazy hours?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still doing it. I go back to tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's crazy hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh like fourteen hours.

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<v Speaker 3>A day, isn't it crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm standing or sitting on a stool and I

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<v Speaker 1>am a wreck, and there's no time to get a massage,

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<v Speaker 1>no time to get you right to sleep. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we always have to go out to dinner with Hosey's

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<v Speaker 1>a chef, you know, and Jose has to have dinner

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<v Speaker 1>every night. Sounds fun, even if it's it's so much fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's like your show. I mean, you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor of a basketball My gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going on and our and our work hours

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<v Speaker 2>were like fifteen hour days. I mean anywhere from twelve

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen hours. But we were downtown La.

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<v Speaker 1>How many days? How many days in a row?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm working all every day? Yeah, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>I very rarely had a day off. But like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like Jose because the second word downtown l A. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't live downtown in La. This is where all

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<v Speaker 2>the Michelin star restaurants are, so we have to go

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<v Speaker 2>to them. So after work, I'd be like, we gotta go.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to go to this restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Three hour Japanese meal the other night. Japanese French meal

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<v Speaker 1>the other night in ls.

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<v Speaker 3>L in Toronto. Yes, I've been there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, amazing, amazing, the aged sakes and then the

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<v Speaker 1>and then the.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you're a foodie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big you Just you just said my Like

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<v Speaker 2>my that's like my magic word. That's a puny montroche

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<v Speaker 2>is like my.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite, isn't it the best?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even stand it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you want a way right to my heart,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like one of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Icy cold, thin thin Oh yes, yummy. I love food,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, and I cook?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you eating in New York it's just are you

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<v Speaker 1>want to preach again? But right now?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm here a lot. I'm here a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>And but yeah, we've been doing all the press too.

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<v Speaker 2>But my son goes to goes to school and performing

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<v Speaker 2>art school the city.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh great.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I can't believe it because he's he's almost

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<v Speaker 2>done and he's going to be a senior next year.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's a junior, he's twenty one, and I can't

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<v Speaker 2>It's like wild to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't even believe he's He's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>He's really smart, he's really funny, and he's like an

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<v Speaker 2>awesome person to hang around.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's just a good.

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<v Speaker 1>So were you taking him to eat? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>We go to all kinds of places, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually went to eleven Park. I went to Madison Love Park,

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<v Speaker 2>Madison a couple of days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not a vegan, are you?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No? What'd you think?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was very good. I always miss a

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<v Speaker 3>little meat.

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<v Speaker 1>I took my grandchildren there for Mother's Day and their

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<v Speaker 1>mother after about seven courses, they said, are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to get anything to eat?

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<v Speaker 3>And oh no, it wasn't enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not their style of food.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have the chautaki course.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we had. There's that other vegetable that he is

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<v Speaker 1>enamored of. Forgetting the name of it. Yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 1>in Madison Park for all of you who don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>is a vegan, highest end vegan restaurant in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is a superb place with a superb chef

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<v Speaker 1>who has taken it to another.

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<v Speaker 3>Level truly, and in the most amazing room.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I went into their wine cellar. Of course I was

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<v Speaker 2>there to like one in the morning because I can't

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<v Speaker 2>ever leave restaurants, and I went into the wine cellar.

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<v Speaker 3>What else has been I'm a big polo bar fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph's my next door neighbor. Oh really, he lives it

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<v Speaker 1>next to me in Bedford. Has created amazing, amazing restaurant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is packed every night. And if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know somebody, you don't get into the polo loud.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such an amazing vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I just I was up in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the back having a drink, having this amazing martini and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, with all of the paintings and the

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<v Speaker 2>leather seats and the paneling, wood paneling, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to live in this energy all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You just call his office. They can do your entire

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<v Speaker 1>house just like that. So back to your program, and

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<v Speaker 1>your character works for the family business, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think of family dynamics in the workplace? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, I think the thing that I relate to it

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<v Speaker 2>the most is being a only girl with all boys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sort of this desire to be validated by your breath.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like wanting them to see you, but really in

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<v Speaker 2>order for you to be seen, you have to yell

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<v Speaker 2>and scream and try to get them to understand that

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<v Speaker 2>you need to be heard. You know. It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>little more complicated than just are they going to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to you in the end.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we'll see to find out.

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<v Speaker 1>That how many episodes have you done so far?

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<v Speaker 2>And Netflix, you know, it just comes right out. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of those things where it came out and

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<v Speaker 2>the next day I was walking around New York and

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<v Speaker 2>I had like three people come up to me and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, I saw the whole show last night, And

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<v Speaker 2>so you sort of work for so many months and

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<v Speaker 2>then people see it in one night and you're like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, that was fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get to sing on the show?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, I don't think I love is a singer.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I think we're going to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, somehow somehow bring that into it, because that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big thing for you to release an album. How brave?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? It was really good reviews.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was really special. And I did get to

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<v Speaker 2>sing in this last movie I did with Hugh Jackman.

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<v Speaker 2>Hugh and I have a film coming out. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know when, but we sing in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you play the guitar also a guitar?

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<v Speaker 3>Can?

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<v Speaker 2>I can write on the guitar. I can write on

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<v Speaker 2>the piano. I don't know if I'm comfortable. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I like if we were, if I was at your

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<v Speaker 2>house and I could pick up the guitar and I

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<v Speaker 2>could play songs and sing, you know, But I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>so sure i'd want to do that in front of

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<v Speaker 2>a live audience.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I'm ready for that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But have you been singing in front of.

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<v Speaker 2>Like It's been one of the great experiences for me

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<v Speaker 2>in my life right now, because I didn't think I

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<v Speaker 2>was ever going to really do it, and I got

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<v Speaker 2>to a certain place where I was like, oh, music

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<v Speaker 2>is just not going to happen for me. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when I during COVID sort of was able to reflect

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<v Speaker 2>on my creative life up to that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Which was very creative and very successful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but there was a huge thing missing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the music.

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<v Speaker 2>Music.

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<v Speaker 3>It really was. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like it was like, Oh, I'm so afraid

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<v Speaker 2>to put this out in the world that I know

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<v Speaker 2>deep down in the back of my head that I

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<v Speaker 2>would never know what it would be or what it

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<v Speaker 2>would have been.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I took this job with this new show.

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<v Speaker 3>Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I took it because I said, well, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done that before. Yeah, I haven't done a primetime NBC show,

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<v Speaker 1>prime time, this is ten PM, and I thought, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I might as well do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I feel like that's kind of especially with people

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<v Speaker 2>that are constantly wanting to be creative, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's what keeps us the creative juices flowing, like

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<v Speaker 2>we have to keep moving forward and do different So are.

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<v Speaker 1>You going to do more albums? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, could definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to write music. I've always loved to write music.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was going to be for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought that I was going to be sharing

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<v Speaker 2>it because I was too afraid to.

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<v Speaker 3>But now that I.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally did, your father or other thing.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad, my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>My father's a musician, my real father, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Hudson, and he was in a band called the

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson Brothers in the seventies. They had like a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a variety show, and I had some albums.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They were these real, literal like Italian American boys, very handsome,

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<v Speaker 2>very charming, very wild. He's a musician. And my grandfather,

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<v Speaker 2>my mother's side, was a professional violinist. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>fiddle player and played in orchestra's in DC.

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<v Speaker 3>That was his job. So music's definitely in our blood.

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<v Speaker 1>An kids of yours with music, all of them, all

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<v Speaker 1>of them, all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll show you Ronnie. We watched the Oscars and Ronnie.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like four and a half when she met Cynthia.

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<v Speaker 2>We met in a restaurant in London and we were talking.

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<v Speaker 2>But Ronnie will never forget her because of her nails,

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<v Speaker 2>her nails and her piercings.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, she was just so loved her outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked her, I asked her if she could roll

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<v Speaker 1>out pie cross.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my gosh, I can, I can roll out crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sitting with our guest who has kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful almost a pale magenta nail polish with many

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<v Speaker 1>diamonds on each.

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<v Speaker 3>One, very very dim.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>So Ronnie's obsessed with Cynthia. But at the oscars that

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<v Speaker 2>note you know, the end of wicked, you know of

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<v Speaker 2>defined gravity, Ronnie is belting out and hits it right

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<v Speaker 2>on key. Oh right, I'm gonna I'll play it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>She is definitely got music.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just she's gonna say musical thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Six and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>My middle son is a brilliant drummer and is one

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<v Speaker 2>of those types of brains that can pick up any

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<v Speaker 2>instrument and start playing it right away and figure it out,

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<v Speaker 2>which is I'm very envious of. And my son Rider

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<v Speaker 2>is a taste maker in terms of music, like plays

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<v Speaker 2>the guitar, has a wonderful voice, great tone, and and

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<v Speaker 2>loves like has just great taste in music. Is the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of person who like finds things that nobody's heard

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<v Speaker 2>of and sends them to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, you should be an an r right.

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<v Speaker 2>Music business and our discovering talent, you know. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're all really musical.

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<v Speaker 1>So you work with my friend Jason Owen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Jason's my manager.

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<v Speaker 1>My music managers your music.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so so Jason manages me and Jake who's here

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<v Speaker 2>backing as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you have your brother Oliver, yes, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have a podcast we do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Sibling Revelry, and we explore sibling relationships. And

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of started as like, Okay, let's just this

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<v Speaker 2>could be fun, you know, years ago, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>just took off and we love it. We love doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>It keeps us totally.

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<v Speaker 1>We do one.

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<v Speaker 3>We do about fifty a year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we we do quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>All of it is a little bit more and it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of an open ended so since there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many sibling rival reasons yeah, in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I really do. We also go into other things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we interview people that inspire us. And because

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<v Speaker 2>our sibling dynamic is so crazy and Oliver is just

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<v Speaker 2>hilarious and nobody makes me laugh like Olie, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we also like, as you know, when you you have

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<v Speaker 2>to open things up a little bit, and you can't

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<v Speaker 2>always get siblings. So We also bring on people that

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<v Speaker 2>we are inspired by and kind of you know, talk

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<v Speaker 2>to them about their family dynamic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so much fun. I love talking to people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, obviously you look at you. She's a very talkative person.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a very smiling and beautiful person.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's like, God, don't you hate doing press? I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>because I love people. Are you still cooking?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm now always yet cooking all the time?

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<v Speaker 1>Not all the time. I mean, if I want to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to cook.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't have a cook And what so you

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<v Speaker 3>don't No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, I don't have a cook in my house. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like that too.

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<v Speaker 1>If I have a big party, I'll have I'll have Pierre,

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<v Speaker 1>my chef who runs a catering business. Okay, but no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I call I call him, I say, come on, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to do dinner for thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>And what about your like, what do you do your

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<v Speaker 3>garden all the time? And do you do it or do.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the garden this morning. I'm restoring a

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<v Speaker 1>pond right now, which you would love. It's a beautiful

0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:36.520
<v Speaker 1>old pond on my property, not too big. We've lined

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<v Speaker 1>the whole edges with stone. We've we've taken all the

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<v Speaker 1>all the leaves from I don't think it's ever been

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<v Speaker 1>cleaned for one hundred years, this pond, so we've cleaned

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<v Speaker 1>it all out. I want it for my geese. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a world collection of geese. So I have every

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<v Speaker 1>geese from many countries.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, and they're beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want them to have their own ponds.

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<v Speaker 3>So you don't have dogs. Oh yes, they don't eat

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<v Speaker 3>your geese. Yes, that's what mind you.

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<v Speaker 1>But they must say that's why the geese are in

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<v Speaker 1>one place.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you this too, because you started

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<v Speaker 1>acting at such a young age. What was your first

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<v Speaker 1>first job?

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<v Speaker 2>My first, I actually got a part in Party of Five.

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<v Speaker 2>I played this guest starring role who took Nev Campbell's

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend kind of away from her, you know, And that

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<v Speaker 2>was my first gig. I was sixteen. But then I

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<v Speaker 2>finished school and then I went at eighteen, actually got

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<v Speaker 2>into NYU and begged my parents to defer for a

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<v Speaker 2>year to see if I could start acting, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I just started getting part So my first my first

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<v Speaker 2>role was this movie called Desert Blue, and then two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred Cigarettes, which was it's actually kind of became a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a cult classic. It's this big ensemble movie

0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:57.119
<v Speaker 2>about New Year's Eve, and like Elvis Costello's has a

0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:01.360
<v Speaker 2>cameo in it, and it's like Ben Affleck, Martha Plimpton

0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.920
<v Speaker 2>and Christina Ricci and Casey Affleck and Paul run All

0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:07.359
<v Speaker 2>teen Dave Chappelle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, boy, yeah, well too. I was a excitor.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to see this. I haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fun one.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually j Moore, who's now married to Jeanie Buss,

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<v Speaker 2>the president of the Lakers, is the guy that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on the date with in two hundred Cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the time, I was eighteen or nineteen, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of my first things I'd ever done.

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<v Speaker 3>And then almost famous, really, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean there was, and then you go and make almost

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<v Speaker 1>famous and you get a golden globe. Yeah, so amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was really your mother must have been so proud.

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<v Speaker 2>They were so excited and also nervous. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>it happened so quick. You know, I was twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, getting nominated. Yes, yeah, I think they were

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to make sure that they were just hoping

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<v Speaker 2>I think deep down they were just hoping that I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of wouldn't win everything because they want wanted me

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<v Speaker 2>to have a long career, you know, and sort of like.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, coming in soon, too soon. Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't believe in that, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the more you can get, the better. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of with you on that one. But at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, I feel like it was such a different

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<v Speaker 3>era and people who got like Oscar is really young

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<v Speaker 3>ended up not really having.

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<v Speaker 2>A statistically a long career. So I think they were

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit concerned there. But I lost, so

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<v Speaker 2>it all turned out okay, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you got another Golden Globe, and didn't you get

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<v Speaker 1>an Oscar?

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<v Speaker 2>I got was nominated for and I won the Golden

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<v Speaker 2>Globe Best Supporting Actress. Yeah, and then I got and

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<v Speaker 2>then I was nominated for an Oscar and then I

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<v Speaker 2>was nominated for a Globe another time as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's great for a young actress.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then I and then I kind of smise,

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<v Speaker 2>look and I think about my career and I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>so grateful that it's been so long. I've had such

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.560
<v Speaker 2>a long career so far, you know, because it doesn't

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:11.200
<v Speaker 2>that's rare. Adrian Brodie was saying that on the stage

0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 2>ony one, you do realize acting is different. It's part

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<v Speaker 2>of the reason why I started at business is that

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:22.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of power that doesn't exist that you

0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.240
<v Speaker 2>can't hold as an actor because you're kind of a

0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:25.880
<v Speaker 2>hired gun.

0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:26.439
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they either want you or they don't, and

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 2>you're sort of at the whim of if there, if

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:34.919
<v Speaker 2>it's something they're into. So starting a business for me

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.240
<v Speaker 2>was like my way of taking a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>control of my life, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And being independent of the forces that you couldn't control. Yeah,

0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's terribly important. But you're telligent enough and knowledgeable

0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.359
<v Speaker 1>enough to be able to do that, and that's really great,

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and that you can concentrate that you can find the

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<v Speaker 1>time to do it. And how many do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>Four children? And how many husbands have you had?

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<v Speaker 3>One? But I've been but I have three three dads.

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh, that's right, you have more dads than you

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:03.680
<v Speaker 1>have husbands. That's right.

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 2>I was married once, yeah, and then then I met

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Bing's father and then that didn't work out, and I'm

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.560
<v Speaker 2>with now I'm with my third baby daddy and we're

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:15.360
<v Speaker 2>doing great.

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:19.679
<v Speaker 1>So far, so good husbands. I count those.

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 3>It really.

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<v Speaker 2>Husbands, and we're in it together. You know, we've got

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:31.160
<v Speaker 2>such a really strong unit. It's really I've surprised myself,

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:36.160
<v Speaker 2>you know. And being able to like continue having such

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:41.680
<v Speaker 2>a great connection with the family is like the whole family,

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.680
<v Speaker 2>including my exes and their partners.

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 3>It's it's it is actually great is because there's a

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 3>positive to it.

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 2>It's like they have so much family, there's so I mean,

0:23:53.800 --> 0:24:00.120
<v Speaker 2>they've got multiple grandma's, multiple grandpas, multiple dads and mom.

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And then they'll pick and choose who they really really connected, yeah,

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and kind of forge those relationships.

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's interesting, and I think a lot of

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 2>it does come from being able to separate your personal

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 2>experiences with your chilled with what's best for your kids.

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 1>You know. So your kids range from six to what.

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<v Speaker 3>To twenty one?

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Twenty?

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<v Speaker 3>That's good having kids. My entire adult life, I was

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 3>super young with brighter for this day and age. It

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 3>was very young, and I'm so happy I did it.

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, Like I think everybody thought I was nuts,

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 3>but I didn't think I was nuts. And now in retrospect,

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't.

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>A twenty one year old, which is so fun. So

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 1>your mom is an amazing comedic actress. Did she teach

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<v Speaker 1>you how to be funny or you just funny?

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh she's much goofier, she's much sillier. Yeah, for sure.

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm much more serious of a person. I think and controlled.

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:05.120
<v Speaker 1>You're taller than your mom.

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm taller than my mom, although my mom's at the

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 3>other day She's like, no, it's not fair. I shrunk.

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I have always been a little taller than mom. We

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 2>have the same size foot. We have the same looking foot,

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>like it's literally identical. We have an identical foot, which

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 2>is so cute. And then she got a tattoo. I

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 2>got a star on my tattoo, and for her sixtieth birthday,

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 2>she got a heart where my star is on her foot.

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 3>And so when we put our feet together, they look

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 3>exactly the same. She has a heart, And is.

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>That your only tattoo?

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<v Speaker 3>That's it?

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>It was.

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.639
<v Speaker 3>I was a whimp. It was wastty much bigger. And

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:46.640
<v Speaker 3>then I got one star, and I'm like, I'm out. No.

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 3>My boys love tattoos.

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 1>They do. They're getting tattooed all over.

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Riders got quite a few I'm just like, just stay

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 2>away from the neck, you know, neck down.

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Just help me out. I don't want face tattoos, please.

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Rider got a tattoo that I hate so much that

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:07.719
<v Speaker 2>it was where I drew the line. I'm like, nope,

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:09.880
<v Speaker 2>that's coming off. And he was like, Mom, you can't

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>said private.

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 3>No, No, it's this terrible tattoo on his calf. It's

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 3>like a scribble. And I was like, no, it's a

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 3>terrible tattoo. It's so bad that it's where I draw

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 3>a line as a mother, I don't care that you're

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 3>an adult. It's gotta go and he's gonna get it

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 3>taken on.

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<v Speaker 1>You're one of the memorable leading ladies of the rom

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.719
<v Speaker 1>calumn genre. I guess. And what kind of movies do

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.119
<v Speaker 1>you like to watch yourself? What do you watch?

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 3>I like period pieces?

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>What about? What about this? The last slew of weird

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>movies that were nominated for Oscars?

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 3>No, there's just something you said weird.

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>No, there's an editorial Times a Day, and I totally

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 1>agree with it. Tell me it's about how where where

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>are the movies? They're all so weird?

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's well because because the industry is changing It's like,

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, you either have these very small indie movies

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>that sort of break out or you have these monster, big,

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 2>you know film you know, so there's like no in between,

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 2>not much like what not in between.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Because no one's investing in the like, you know, forty

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 3>five million dollar movies.

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.120
<v Speaker 1>In between? Is White Lotus?

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or a Stranger Things? In between? Isn't know what

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 3>it's called in between.

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I got a call. I got a call last week

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>from my granddaughter who is now thirteen, and she said,

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Stranger Things is going to be on Broadway? Can you

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>get tickets? Oh?

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Is it? Is it?

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? It opens and I think it's April. That's exciting

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>at April twenty second or something. And so I got

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>her opening night tickets because Netflix is producing it.

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh how fun?

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>So she and so she she knows all those things

0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:00.719
<v Speaker 1>ahead of time because she's very into music and drama

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and all that.

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Did you see any of the movies?

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I saw, I saw every single one.

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 3>What was your favorite?

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>The Brutalist?

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean too.

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 1>I loved and I love. He's my neighbor.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh he's Oh he's there too.

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He lives around the corner with missus Chapman. I

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 1>know they are lovely.

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 3>I know there's I'm so an Adrian forever.

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>We watched we watched three and a half hours with

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a dinner break at a friend's house.

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Isn't it great?

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's so great.

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 3>I could watch that.

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>And he is a superior actor.

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Phenomenal period And that film is fantastic.

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>And I and although I loved the Bob Dylan movie

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>with Timothy.

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Complete Unknown is ever the cutest.

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh, he's so cute. I can't I don't like the mustache. Oh,

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I like, I don't like it. I do.

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 2>But you know what I was thinking about him last night.

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>He he's so fun and he's got this like that

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 2>youthful energy that he's such an easy target for people

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>to like kind of make fun with. But he's such

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:02.719
<v Speaker 2>a great sport, comes from like stock, Yes, you know,

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 2>And but I like that he I think that sometimes

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 2>people think that acting is like just happens instead of

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 2>instead of the art form and being in pursuit.

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>He's made us, he's made us understand. He said he's

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>worked on that movie for five years.

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I and yeah, and.

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I can see that. I can see it. I mean,

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I love Bob Dylan.

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 3>So he's my number one? Is he number one?

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 1>He was my number one for a long time. Yeah.

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Bob's whole thing is just what an incredible like what

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 3>an incredible magical human he is, you know, like he's

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 3>just magic to me. And I got the luck of

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 3>being able to be on tour with him with my

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 3>ex husband, really yeah, because my ex husband was on tour,

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 3>and then we did a bunch of they did a

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 3>bunch of gigs like together. Did you like Anura? Did

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 3>you see it?

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>You know? I didn't like Nora interesting. I didn't like

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>it at all.

0:29:58.120 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 3>There were a lot of people who felt that way.

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I just like the story. I didn't. I didn't like anything.

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 3>You should do you should do movie reviews. I should

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 3>it would be so that that would be fine. Everybody

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 3>would be like terrified, they'd.

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Be like, I loved it.

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't it so great?

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I was a Tell Your Ride and watched it

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>there with all of them, everybody who was in so

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I met all the whole cast. I just loved it. Oh,

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>it was amazing. And I was glad for Zoe to

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>get her kid. I really was. She is some actress.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I love her and the Lioness. So I just worked

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>with your co star Matthew McConaughey, Oh you did, I did.

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I did a super Bowl commercial.

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 3>How was that? Was he wild?

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>He's got me scared actually, because I mean, oh my god, yeah,

0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>he scared me. And I'm there. I am I'm a

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>board member. I'm a board member of the of Uberges. Yes.

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And did you see the commercial? Yeah, I'm the one.

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm the one who is making the sod. Yes. And

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>so Matthew to get into characters, he had to play

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>many characters in that commercial.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>So he is a method actor of like I think commercials,

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>no of I mean like just life. Yeah, of characters

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>because he had to pay play ten characters, and and

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>he got into each character in a like it took

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>takes him about fifteen minutes to get makes.

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 3>A weird sound.

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, you do that.

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Oh it makes the sounds oh yeah.

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Grunts, grunting and breathing, jump yeah, and jumping up and down.

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>And that scared me.

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh yeah, you get used to it. I bet

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 3>after like the first couple of weeks.

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>You probably want You just wanted to tell him to

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>shut the hell out.

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.719
<v Speaker 3>You just wait he wait for him his warm up.

0:31:56.760 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 3>But work with Oh, yeah, we have some fun when

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 3>we're working. It's been a long time.

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I watched that How To Lose a Guy in ten years.

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was really good.

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 3>It's O thanks. I love that movie.

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 2>So McConaughey is like one of the most fun people

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 2>to work with for me because energetically we're both very

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 2>competitive and so we have this like thing when we're

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>working together that's really fun.

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 3>It's really good, kind of.

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Like to one like, yeah, who has more energy.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also we're both, you know, very flirtatious, so

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>You get that from him. Boy, he's he's fabulous.

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he's super charismatic.

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Is there anything that you haven't done in your

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>career that you hope to do?

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>What's a dream project? What haven't you done?

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 2>A lot of things? I really want to direct, That's

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 2>something I've always wanted to do. I really want to

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 2>write a musical. Yeah, I love fun.

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 3>I really love to do that.

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 2>And you're like, you really are one of my heroes.

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I have this domestic sound of me where it

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 2>comes to like but but but a creative domestic side,

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 2>whether it's like lifestyle that I love that I still

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 2>don't feel like I've tapped into, you know that at

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<v Speaker 2>some point I want to figure out what that really

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<v Speaker 2>looks like, you know, because I just.

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<v Speaker 1>I love, like, what kind of architecture do you like?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a bit I'm oh, I mean it's endless, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big like English tutor. Oh really yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>like very traditional architecture. But then there's another side of

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<v Speaker 2>me that also likes the more like hippie kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sort of Grecian Mediterranean style.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw that room in the Brutalist, that first

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<v Speaker 1>room that he designed, oh I ah, the soul I want, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I really want. That room wasn't an amazing library that

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<v Speaker 1>he designed in that house in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 3>But see, I really appreciate that because that to me

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<v Speaker 3>feels very Bohemian, right because you have these sort of

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<v Speaker 3>like incredible like this incredible light in this old house, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>with this kind of mid century expression, gantiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And I and I love table settings. My daughter one

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<v Speaker 2>time said that's what she wanted to be when she

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<v Speaker 2>when she was like five, she wanted to be a

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<v Speaker 2>table set up.

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<v Speaker 3>How I'm going to be a table set up or

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<v Speaker 3>what do you mean when you grow up? Ronnie a

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<v Speaker 3>table setup r because.

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<v Speaker 1>She just she like she loves the landscape.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and she loves like brunch, big brunch tables with

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<v Speaker 3>like little pots of things everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you manage the family while you're off shooting

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<v Speaker 1>a ten week program?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>That is hard, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think now that they're a little bit older, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit easier. Ronnie comes with me, she does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll bring Ronnie if I'm gone for more homeschool four days, No,

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<v Speaker 3>but if I'm gone for more than four or five days,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll bring her with me. And then that will change

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<v Speaker 3>when she gets a little bit older.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeahs like she could still do that. And when they

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<v Speaker 1>get into like, no, seventh grade again, they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to no, and it's not the one that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to miss school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, right now, we've been dealing with the fires.

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<v Speaker 2>We are in the Palisades, so we kind of were

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<v Speaker 2>out of the area for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just going to be able to go back soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Where have you been living all over?

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<v Speaker 2>Like we've been living in a hotel, We were living

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<v Speaker 2>in a you know, we've been trapped.

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<v Speaker 3>So I took the kids with me on this press

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<v Speaker 3>tour because.

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 1>And your dog.

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>The dogs are at this woman's house, who's amazing, and

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>she's been but I miss I mean, it's it's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>been a very bizarre couple months for our family, very sad.

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<v Speaker 2>We're lucky that our house is still there, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>still just a complete adjustment to a new a new.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole new thing. And I liked that on the oscars

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<v Speaker 1>they were asking for people to be charitable still to

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<v Speaker 1>do the victims of the of the fighters. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's I think sometimes because do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's la and it's all only fancy people, But it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a big, really large community, generational, right

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<v Speaker 2>you know who's the crew on the movies? Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>all every you know the people that also have had

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<v Speaker 2>houses that.

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<v Speaker 3>Have been sort of you know, inherited. And when will.

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<v Speaker 1>We see you on screen with your mother?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Everyone always asks that, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, I mean or Kurt Russell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Kurt, I love my I love Paus

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<v Speaker 2>so much. He's he's actually working with my brother right now. Yeah,

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 2>because they do Godzilla together, oh for Apple and and

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 2>they just went back and did their season two and

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<v Speaker 2>not I do get a little jealous.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh fun. I got to work with my

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 3>dad on Deepwater Horizon, but we.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't we didn't have any scenes to get with, like

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<v Speaker 2>one little moment together. And then I directed him in

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 2>a short that I directed years ago, so that was

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<v Speaker 2>really fun. And Kurt is just I just he's my

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<v Speaker 2>Even if he wasn't my father, he would probably still

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<v Speaker 2>be one of my favorite actors of all time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have so much respect for his craft and hiss

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<v Speaker 2>like what he's put out in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so so well. I've kept you over time

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<v Speaker 1>that and it's a very nice conversation. Thank you very

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>much and a pleasure to talk to you. Be sure

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to watch Running Point on Netflix now and follow

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.280
<v Speaker 1>at Kate Hudson on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for Marta