WEBVTT - Will the Celtics Make History, is Game 6 Must Win for the Heat?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into NBA Polster production of iHeartMedia and the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Syracusetock, NBA analyst for the Yes Network, and today

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<v Speaker 1>is Friday, May twenty six, and we got a special

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<v Speaker 1>guest on this Friday, South Florida Zone, ESPN Zone Israel

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<v Speaker 1>Gutiras and Is. It's a thrill to have you on

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<v Speaker 1>here with us because what a series this has been

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<v Speaker 1>for the Miami Heat in the Boston Celtics. Is Boston

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<v Speaker 1>now stays alive? But first of all, great to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on and great to see you well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just texting with a friend who grew up

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<v Speaker 3>down here in Miami but now lives up in New York,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was all nervous and saying, man, what do

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<v Speaker 3>you think the Heat's going to do in Game six?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm just like, Hey, isn't this fun? Like did

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<v Speaker 3>you really expect this to happen? So don't be nervous,

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of see what happens. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of where I'm at with this run. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of fun to watch and it's just surprising

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<v Speaker 3>that it happens to be team in town.

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<v Speaker 1>Well for Miami Heat. Yeah, Miami Heat fans probably a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more fun a few days ago, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the Heat jumped out to that three to zero series lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Never in NBA history has a team come back from

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<v Speaker 1>three to zero. But by all accounts, you got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people and a lot of chatter coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of Boston hoping that this could be the team. And

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<v Speaker 1>they certainly looked like a team that had changed their

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<v Speaker 1>attitude and changed their mentality, in particular last night at

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<v Speaker 1>TV Garden one ten ninety seven win. Two times, people comes, Tatum, comeside.

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<v Speaker 2>Snort teams.

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<v Speaker 1>And from the start they were excellent. Jump out to

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty five to twenty first quarter lead, and whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was a three point shooting, once again, the pace,

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<v Speaker 1>the fast break points turning Miami over. Obviously the Heat

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<v Speaker 1>playing without Cape Vincent Kyle Lowry getting the starts, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of facets in this game, of which the

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<v Speaker 1>Celtics started to look like the team that had them

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the favorites entering the playoffs in what

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<v Speaker 1>they could do in postseason. What stood out to you

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<v Speaker 1>with the way that Boston was able to play against

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<v Speaker 1>this Miami team that really has exceeded a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people's expectation throughout the course of this playoffs and in

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<v Speaker 1>particular the series.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's two things that stood out to me. One

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<v Speaker 3>was the defensive pressure. Nothing, no pass was easy for Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>No you know, dribbled.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you know, Marcus Smart just clean steals a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of times of guys off the dribble, and so that

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot more intense, a little surprised that the

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<v Speaker 3>heat kind of looked like they didn't expect that. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there weren't a lot of backdoor cuts. There weren't a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of relief buckets against that pressure, and so that

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<v Speaker 3>was something that the Celtics just had in their favor

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much the entire game, and you know, Miami didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really adjust to it, whether it be strategically or just

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of, uh matching that effort. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>other thing is the Celtics and this was a good strategy.

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<v Speaker 3>They decided to make all their shots at least early

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<v Speaker 3>enough to where you know, Derek White just looked like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you cannot leave him open for half a

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<v Speaker 3>second off to White. You know, Jalen Brown went from

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<v Speaker 3>odd airball like free throws in game four or game

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<v Speaker 3>three four, and then you know, an airball in his

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<v Speaker 3>first shot in game five to all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>looking like his normal self again. And then I'd say

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<v Speaker 3>the last thing that sort of stood out was Jason

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<v Speaker 3>Tatum not forcing the issue. I feel like so many

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<v Speaker 3>eyes were on him in game three, he didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>perform Game four, he returned, and you would think, based

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<v Speaker 3>on his history that that meant this was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a high volume shooting game for him in game

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<v Speaker 3>five to carry the team, and it wasn't. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a high assist game. It was an eleven assist game

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<v Speaker 3>for Jason sure comes Tatum twelve in the first quarter,

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<v Speaker 3>score was in the second one to three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why is absolutely on fire?

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<v Speaker 3>And he played great and all those you know turnovers

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<v Speaker 3>that looked like there was some sort of ghost pushing

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<v Speaker 3>the ball out of the Celtics hands in Game three,

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<v Speaker 3>that was now happening to the heat in game four,

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<v Speaker 3>in game five, where it seemed like any time bam

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<v Speaker 3>Adebayo put the ball on the ground it was Heat players,

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<v Speaker 3>it was Celtics players rather swiping at it and getting

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<v Speaker 3>a turnover. And that's basically what Miami has been doing

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<v Speaker 3>all postseason leading the NBA postseason teams, and deflections in

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<v Speaker 3>loose balls recovered in charges taken as well, and so

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<v Speaker 3>those things weren't really there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also think just because.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm mentioning the charge is taken thing, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>that is the only place where Joe Mizzoula is going

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<v Speaker 3>to use his challenges just to kind of kill the

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<v Speaker 3>mythology of hey, they don't take a bunch of charges.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys just call a lot of charges for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So watch when I challenge them, You're going to overturn everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you mentioned it, Joe Missoula had been under

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of heat, a lot of scrutiny throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>course of those first couple of games, and his seemingly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, push some of the right buttons, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>but also just as players playing harder, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it, the defensive pressure. Twenty seven points off

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<v Speaker 1>turnovers for the Celtics, Jason Tatum with eleven assists, there

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<v Speaker 1>was nice balance and they did an excellent job too,

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<v Speaker 1>I think to your point of just how they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to flow into the offense. And when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Miami, going back to South Beach, they get to

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<v Speaker 1>go home Game six, they still do have this three

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<v Speaker 1>to two series lead. But what do Eric Spolstro, Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Butler this group, what do they need to do differently

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<v Speaker 1>in game six to get back to playing the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they were early on in try and close out

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<v Speaker 1>this series?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>For starters, you know, everybody seems to want Bam out

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<v Speaker 3>of Bay or at least those who want the Heat

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<v Speaker 3>to do well.

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<v Speaker 2>They seem to what bam.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of Bio to translate into a score all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden, And when you look at yesterday's game, he

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<v Speaker 3>would have been just as helpful, if not more helpful,

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<v Speaker 3>if he'd just kept, say Al Horford off the boards

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<v Speaker 3>because a lot of again you look at the Heat

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<v Speaker 3>shooting percentage fifty to fifty one percent in that game.

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<v Speaker 3>If they don't turn the ball over, if they don't

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<v Speaker 3>give up offensive rebounds, the Celtics don't get those extra possessions.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know, obviously they shot better than fifty

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<v Speaker 3>percent as well, so you know they've got to look

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<v Speaker 3>at it as Okay, Bam, I want you to score it.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get me wrong, but two things wou'd rather you do?

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<v Speaker 3>A not turn the ball over. So if you need

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<v Speaker 3>to kick it out, kick it out and be rebound

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<v Speaker 3>the basketball in their defensive end, and we when the

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<v Speaker 3>heat close those possessions out there, they can sort of

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<v Speaker 3>organize the offense. They can run if they need to,

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<v Speaker 3>if they have the opportunity, but if not, they can

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<v Speaker 3>at least organize the offense, get Jimmy the ball, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>get him to the foul line.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think that's where it starts.

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<v Speaker 3>It starts with, you know, Bam not necessarily being an

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<v Speaker 3>offense presence, but being a rebounding presence and being a

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<v Speaker 3>defensive presence where kind of reminds him. Maybe they show

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<v Speaker 3>him the tape of the Atlanta play in where Clint

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<v Speaker 3>Capello was just grabbing rebounds all over the place, and

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<v Speaker 3>as Iron Eagle said on the call, it's just the

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<v Speaker 3>same highlight over and over again with the Hawk players

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<v Speaker 3>getting rebounds and kicking it out for another bucket. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what Bam needs to avoid him this one. And

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<v Speaker 3>Al Horford and Robert Williams can't have that big of

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<v Speaker 3>an impact of a game, you know, And then you

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<v Speaker 3>just need something from those outset, from those perimeter shooters.

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<v Speaker 3>If you gave Vincent'll be back if he gets hot again,

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<v Speaker 3>or Duncan Robinson or Max Steus, any of those guys

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of just maybe take a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>the attention away from Jimmy and then let sort of

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy operate while the defense has to worry about everybody

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<v Speaker 3>else on the court, because that in this series, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what's worked best. It hasn't been just Jimmy going off

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<v Speaker 3>for twenty straight points. It's hey, let's see what other

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<v Speaker 3>role players can't force the Celtics defense attention away from Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they don't, hey, they're going to be wide open.

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<v Speaker 3>And so far, you know, guys like Gabe and Caleb

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<v Speaker 3>Martin have have taken advantage of that. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to see a lot more of that. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you're going to need a lot more of that

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<v Speaker 3>from Miami. And I think when you talk about Eric

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<v Speaker 3>Sposter needing one or his turn, would you say to

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<v Speaker 3>make the adjustments and you're going into a home closeout game,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's probably the perfect scenario for Miami. They're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be sort of ahead, one step ahead theoretically

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<v Speaker 3>in the game plan, and then they know if they

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<v Speaker 3>just play with effort. They'll probably get a few home

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<v Speaker 3>court calls and you know, ideally pull out this victory

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<v Speaker 3>and have the Celtics looking back at Game two at

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<v Speaker 3>home really regretting how they ended that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, with that being said, is he that I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to put you on the spot a prediction both for

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<v Speaker 1>Game six and also just your perspective and how desperately

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<v Speaker 1>Miami does need to win Game six if they want

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<v Speaker 1>to win this series.

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<v Speaker 3>I've watched this team enough the last four years to

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<v Speaker 3>say they don't have to win Game six because they've

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<v Speaker 3>gone into Boston and just done some amazing things, or

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<v Speaker 3>on the road in general and done some amazing things

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<v Speaker 3>even in the playoffs or in the postseason the last

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<v Speaker 3>few years. But I think they desperately want to win

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<v Speaker 3>it at home. I think, you know, part of the

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<v Speaker 3>pregame speech from Eric Spolster is going to be like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to feel just like last year's Game seven,

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<v Speaker 3>and that one ended not in our favor, very close,

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<v Speaker 3>but not in our favor. So to avoid that, avoid

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<v Speaker 3>the close game situation at the end, really make it

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<v Speaker 3>one of those Game three type of situations where it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like an avalanche where for the Celtics and there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing they can do about it. That's kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>feel they need to get. Fortunately for the heat, though

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<v Speaker 3>they've been involved in more close games than anybody in

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<v Speaker 3>the league this year, so if it comes down to that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they still are well positioned. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>Miami will win Game six. I think, you know, big

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<v Speaker 3>performances from guys like Caleb Martin and then like I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>the defensive and rebounding performances from Bam. If you do that,

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<v Speaker 3>there's not all the pressure on Jimmy, and Jimmy will

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<v Speaker 3>probably find ways to get his points. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's funny because we've been sort of selling the Celtics'

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<v Speaker 3>motivation as rebounding from last year's finals, such a painful loss.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they had the most painful loss of

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<v Speaker 3>the postseason. I think that was Miami at home in

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<v Speaker 3>a Game seven, with a shot by Jimmy Butler to.

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<v Speaker 2>End it, and that was the memory that.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to use as their fuel in this game.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if the Celtics have that same

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<v Speaker 3>fuel to match, because if they did, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>they would have been down oh three Frankly.

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<v Speaker 1>Get out the popcorn. I know we're already Saturday Game

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<v Speaker 1>six at Miami that's at eight thirty pm on TNT.

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<v Speaker 1>And this has been a fun run, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>a glorious four years in Miami Heat history from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>ten to twenty fourteen. You are the host of a

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<v Speaker 1>new podcast, Four Years of Heat. We will get to

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<v Speaker 1>that right after Welcome back to be Paul Sarahkhustak joined

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<v Speaker 1>by the great Israel Gutierra is ESPN's own NBA reporter.

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<v Speaker 1>On your personality, you do it all and now you

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<v Speaker 1>also host an extraordinary podcast called the four Years of Heat,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's about the four years Lebron James spent with

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<v Speaker 1>Dwayne Wade Chris Bosh. You grew up in South Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>You cover the Heat for both ESPN Miami Herald during

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<v Speaker 1>the course of that time. I know we all loved

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<v Speaker 1>watching that team and just all the different parts of

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<v Speaker 1>how it came together and also what they accomplished. The

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<v Speaker 1>first episode is already out. What have you now learned

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<v Speaker 1>covering the Heat and sharing with it, but even just

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<v Speaker 1>starting this podcast and things that you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>share with listeners about that great time for Miami Heat.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one thing I learned is that if you stick

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<v Speaker 3>around long enough in the business, people call you things

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<v Speaker 3>like legend, so thank you, but just been around for

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<v Speaker 3>a while. True, Sure, I've learned that, you know, living

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<v Speaker 3>here through that while still covering it. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>started off with the Big three air out stilt the

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<v Speaker 3>Miami Herald as a columnist at the time, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So it felt so intense, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Hyper local, but also like us against the world type

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<v Speaker 3>of situation, you know, even though you know, as an

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<v Speaker 3>objective journalist, I'm not thinking or feeling that way. But

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<v Speaker 3>you see it all around you, right, you hear it

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<v Speaker 3>all around you. I listen to, you know, sports radio

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, and so it was just fiery all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. And it wasn't like what we're used to,

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<v Speaker 3>which is that in a football season where you sort

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<v Speaker 3>of discuss things as the week goes on and you

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<v Speaker 3>sort of bubble up to the Sunday. This was like

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<v Speaker 3>every day, every time there's a game, it's like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what's gonna happen, or oh yeah, look what happened,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was it was it was crazy intense. And

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<v Speaker 3>then when I switched over to ESPN. I realized that,

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<v Speaker 3>and everybody is covering this team this way, and going

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<v Speaker 3>back through it all makes me just kind of realize

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<v Speaker 3>the fervor that was around that team. The kind of like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>going back with the stories with the players and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>is you know, it's always fun, right, especially guys that

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk about these things and want to get

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<v Speaker 3>into the finer details. But a lot of the time

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<v Speaker 3>you look at just the perspective and the way people

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<v Speaker 3>were thinking at the time, and man, we would cover

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<v Speaker 3>this team so differently if it was today. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the team itself would be handled so differently

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<v Speaker 3>if it happened today, because this was ten years ago, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And you think of load management, and you think of

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<v Speaker 3>guys playing, you know, currently maybe thirty seven thirty eight

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<v Speaker 3>minutes to lead the league, Like you had a Heat

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<v Speaker 3>team where Eric Spolster in his third years playing their

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<v Speaker 3>Big three forty five minutes in like a November December game,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just like, what are we doing? That never

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<v Speaker 3>would have happened in twenty twenty three. So just those

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<v Speaker 3>little details kind of put you in a place that

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<v Speaker 3>you realize it's it's different than it was than it

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<v Speaker 3>is now.

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<v Speaker 1>What was what was? Obviously we know the talent, we

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<v Speaker 1>know the success they had, but with the way that

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<v Speaker 1>that team came together, what was unique about those stars

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<v Speaker 1>that group? Eric Spolstra, pat Riley. We continue to see

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<v Speaker 1>this and talk about Heat culture, but what was unique

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<v Speaker 1>about that group in particular?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's why it's so funny because this Heat team

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<v Speaker 3>has won a championship with almost a pressure free like

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<v Speaker 3>that was pressure for Shaq, but you know, yeah, not

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<v Speaker 3>as much.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We wanted to see if Dwayne Wade could be that

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<v Speaker 3>partner for him. You weren't sure. Boom, they did win

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<v Speaker 3>a championship felt great because you had you knew you

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<v Speaker 3>had another decade plus of Dwayne Wade, and that feels great.

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<v Speaker 3>This one it was entirely different because it was championship pressure,

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<v Speaker 3>not just like one, but multiple championship pressure placed on

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<v Speaker 3>them right away. And if you really look back at it,

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<v Speaker 3>was it pressure on everybody or was it just to

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<v Speaker 3>get Lebron his championship? Like that was he was the

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<v Speaker 3>main character in this story. He was who everybody would say,

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<v Speaker 3>if we win a championship for Slash with that guy,

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<v Speaker 3>then we all win.

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<v Speaker 2>But really they.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted for him, meaning the media of the world, the fans,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was just an intense level of pressure. And

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<v Speaker 3>what I think was unique about this team was they

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<v Speaker 3>took what you mentioned the Heat culture, the Heat way

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<v Speaker 3>of sort of facing everything up front, eye to eye,

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<v Speaker 3>face to face, don't sweep anything under the rug, don't

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<v Speaker 3>mumble under your breath, like, let's just handle our situations.

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<v Speaker 3>And early on Lebron had to sort of figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what that dynamic meant. And what that meant was, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you and your teammates are peers. We're all in this together.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the only way we can have this bunker mentality

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<v Speaker 3>is if we're all honest with each other. And they

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<v Speaker 3>sort of grew to understand what the mission was, and

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron was like, all right, I know for me not

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<v Speaker 3>to be selfish, but everybody has to look out for

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<v Speaker 3>themselves first.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Lebron's like.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, I need to win, and if I believe,

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<v Speaker 3>if you believe that this is the way to do it, cool, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>Eventually I'm in. It might have taken him twenty games,

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<v Speaker 3>thirty games, whatever, but he was in. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they went through their stumble at in that in that

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<v Speaker 3>eleven Finals and where it could have crumbled a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>they instead, meaning Duaye Lebron, James, Eric Spolstra, all those

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<v Speaker 3>who felt like they could have done more, looked internally

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<v Speaker 3>that offseason, and then sort of repaired themselves the next season.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the big takeaway that I take from

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<v Speaker 3>revisiting this is the patience that you need to build

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<v Speaker 3>something that great like no matter how good the players are,

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<v Speaker 3>it takes so much to win an NBA championship, And

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't have sort of the game plan, the blueprint,

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<v Speaker 3>the mentality and the ability, you're just not going to

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<v Speaker 3>finish the deal. And they had that far finally that

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<v Speaker 3>second year, and to just to tie it into this

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<v Speaker 3>year's team, nobody wanted the Heat to run it back.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't want just to have Hey, Caleb Martin, you

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<v Speaker 3>take PJ. Tucker's place, Let's do this again. They watched

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<v Speaker 3>through the regular.

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<v Speaker 2>Season and said, see, I told you so.

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<v Speaker 3>But what Eric Spoltzer and the Heat are saying right

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<v Speaker 3>back to everybody else is no, we told you so,

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<v Speaker 3>stick with it, believe.

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<v Speaker 2>In our process.

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<v Speaker 3>If you will not to steal anything from Philadelphia, and

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<v Speaker 3>in the end, you're going to get the best out

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<v Speaker 3>of who you are. And back then it took the

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<v Speaker 3>best out of the best player in the world to

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<v Speaker 3>win two championships and make four finals in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>And right now it's taking you know, the best out

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<v Speaker 3>of a guy who's probably the biggest competitor in the

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<v Speaker 3>league right now, Jimmy Butler and a bunch of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>really gritty guys around them. So the process, the mentality

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<v Speaker 3>remains the same, just the pieces are different.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you got me hype?

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<v Speaker 3>You got me hype?

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<v Speaker 1>Four years of Heat. As I said, episode one is

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<v Speaker 1>already out. Episode two will drop on Tuesday. A great

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<v Speaker 1>table setter as we get set for Game six as

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<v Speaker 1>this Heat team leads the Boston Celtics three games to

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<v Speaker 1>two in the Eastern Conference Final. It's real, Gutierre, as

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<v Speaker 1>you really are the best. We appreciate your time and

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<v Speaker 1>we look forward to hearing, seeing, listening to you as

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<v Speaker 1>these finals continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, sir.

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