1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: All righty, Welcome back everybody to a new week of 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Wide Open with Ashland Harris. I am so excited to 3 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: have the one and only Flage Johnson on today's episode. 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Flage plays for the LSU women's basketball team. She is 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: now a phenom rapper, activist, entrepreneur. I mean, you name it, girl. 6 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: You are just crushing the scene right now. I'm so 7 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: proud of you. Recently signed with jay Z's record label 8 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Rock Nation. Let's go, honey, you are You're it, You're 9 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: on fire. How are you? 10 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: Thank you? I'm good, I'm good, super good. I'm happy 11 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: to be here. 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Should I be your hype woman all the time? When 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: I introduce you? 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, just like that. That was perfect. 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: You. You are so wise and so smart and have 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: such a good head on your shoulders. Every time I realize, 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean you just turn twenty one and what November? Yeah, 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh. The first time I met you, I 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I remember when I was that age 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: in college, Like I was not that smart and put together. 21 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: I was like, what bar am I going to? Am 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: I dancing on the table? No one can see no 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: social media? Am I wearing sweats to that bar? Like 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: You're just so much more advanced at your age than 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: a lot of players during my generation who were in college, 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: because you have to be, like you're a business woman 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: at twenty one years old, Like that is incredible. 28 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think, no, definitely have to be. 29 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: It's just like I have so many different opportunities for myself, 30 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: and I know it's only like a short window of. 31 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: College, you know what I'm saying. It's a very short 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: window because I was just a freshman that I'm a junior. 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: So it's like you have. 34 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: To maximize your time and and like what you put 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: your energy into. But I know I'm really trying to 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: build something for my future, you know, And I know 37 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: where I want to be and where I want to go. 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: So I always just I always kind of have that 39 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: mindset though of like I just want to do some 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: special So I know it's certain things that you can 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: do and you cannot do. 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: And I've just been trying to read and learn a. 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: Lot because you could just learn from, you know, other 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: people's mistakes and what they do. 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: And that's what I try to do. 46 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: And I love that. And it's something I always talk 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: about often, is when you live life through the lens 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: of young star like your star and your own right 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: and you're building and everything is put on camera and 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: social media, like it's just a it's a you're living 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: in a different world right now than a lot of us. 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: So like you can't make mistakes the mistakes you make. 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: Everyone seats for me. I like I could fly under 54 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: the radar at your age and I could do reckless 55 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: shit truthfully and get away with it. Y'all can't get 56 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: away with that anymore because this cancel culture social media 57 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: like era, you got a lot of people looking at 58 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: your every single move. 59 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, definitely, and that's why I always got a 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: good head on my shoulders. But also people around me, 61 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: like because MOOKI said all the time, like you know 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, If y'all going out, y'all, you know 63 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: there's phones everywhere. 64 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: You gotta drink in your hand and you underage, you 65 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: know what I'm. 66 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: Saying, Like you, she doesn't play that, but she'd be 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 3: just like you gotta watch who you surrounded by and 68 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: who you with like and who watching you. 69 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: Because now that we in. 70 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: AyL like we got in IL, it's like more so 71 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: we like professionals now like we get paid to play basketball, 72 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: so it's like you gotta act like a professional, like 73 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Whether you this age or not, 74 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: that's how people view you. 75 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm saying. 76 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: So I think I think it's just important to just 77 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: be aware. 78 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: And that's why I think a lot of kids aren't 79 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: aware for real, for real, just aware. 80 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: Well you're you're now representing brands, your brands, ambassadors, your 81 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: partnerships matter. It's how you carry yourself, how the public 82 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: eye sees you. But most importantly, all these young players 83 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: that come to your games, like they have access to 84 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: you now that they didn't have to us when we 85 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: were in college and before we dive into your success 86 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: here now in the present, I want to know about 87 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: Flage as a kid, as a baby, the origin story, 88 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: because what I was, you know, I met you last year. 89 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: We got to spend some quality time together. Yeah I remember, 90 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, And this is when I wasn't around you, 91 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: I was speaking so highly of you and how you 92 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: carried yourself and your mom. Like you guys are just 93 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: so humble and good people and genuine and you all 94 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: have such a great head on your shoulders and like 95 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: how you show up in the world matters, community matters 96 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: to you. It's more than just the basketball, the you know, 97 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: the music career. It's really how you move in the 98 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: world and how you show up just being Flage, which 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: I loved so much about you, and it became your 100 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: your energy was so infectious. I just think you're really 101 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: changing the landscape and diversifying and your savviness and business 102 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: and education really separate you from the pack. And it's 103 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: probably why you're making so much damn money. So go on, 104 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: go on, Kia, I mean really I like Kia. By 105 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: the way, everyone is Flage's mom and we call her 106 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: the nil Mamager. 107 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's where she'd go. 108 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. 109 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: So so tell me about the origin story. Tell me 110 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: about who you were as a kid, Like, where did 111 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: all of this, you know, grit and hunger to be 112 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: successful come from? 113 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I would have to say it came 114 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: from my mom. 115 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: You know, before I was born. My dad, he was 116 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: murdered before before I was born. So I always like 117 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: to say my story kind of started before I was born. 118 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: And I always just seen my mom just working hard. 119 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: I always seen her working hard. I always just seen 120 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: her making things happen. Like if it's anything that I 121 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: ever wanted, it was nothing that I never had because 122 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: she was always like, yeah, I'm gonna make this happen. So, 123 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: you know, some kids that could get spoiled by that, 124 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: but me, I just kind of adapted to that mentality 125 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: of like, if I want something, I'm gonna go get. 126 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: It like and I'm not gonna take no for an answer. 127 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: And I just seen my mama get to it, like 128 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: I seen her get to it, and I seen her hustor, 129 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: and I was just I was lucky to have a 130 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: mom like that because if I didn't. You know, my 131 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: mom she quit her job so that she could move 132 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: up to Atlanta and I could have a better rap 133 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: career when I was about like twelve thirteen years old, 134 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: Like what is a girl, a little girl raper gonna 135 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: do at twelve thirteen years old? But she always had 136 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: that vision, like you know what I'm saying, before the 137 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: sports basketball even happening. So and then just coming from Savannah, Georgia, 138 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: I feel like Savannah, Georgia is a small town, small city. 139 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: You see people doing the same thing that they did 140 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: when I was kids, Like they're still doing the same thing. 141 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, so I just never wanted 142 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: to get left in that stay in that. I always 143 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: wanted to leave and bring resources back to the city. 144 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: So you know that that kind of has a hold 145 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: on me too, Savannah, for sure. And I never just 146 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: the city just kind of haunted me just because that's 147 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: where my dad was from and that's where he was murdered, 148 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: and I just kind of wanted to get out of that, 149 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: and I wanted to be successful because of that. 150 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Oh I love that. And is that like when did 151 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: when did this become a moment that you could understand 152 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: the gravity? Like were you young when you were told 153 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: your father was murdered? Did you you know, did your 154 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: mom sit you down at an early age? Were you 155 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: always wondering like what was that like? Growing up? 156 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 157 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: It was. 158 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: It was a weird situation because it was like my 159 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: dad was famous where I was from, so I always 160 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: heard people talking about your dad or dad dad, but 161 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: I never knew. I knew he wasn't there. I knew 162 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: he was, you know, gone, but I never knew the 163 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: gravity of the situation till my mom just kind of 164 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: explained it to me. And I used to listen to 165 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: his songs and Lite, and I just wanted to know. 166 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: So one time I was very I was very young, 167 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: but she kind of just sat there and went until 168 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: I could understand, like she kind of told me. And 169 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: I still didn't understand till I was about thirteen fourteen. 170 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: I still didn't understand. Fifteen fifteen sixteen, I ain't understand. 171 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: Like I knew it was going. Ain't affected me, but 172 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: I didn't understand like I had God so used to 173 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: not having a father. 174 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: It was like I don't need you one, you see 175 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, out of there. 176 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: But I was still like as I got older, it 177 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: was like, dang, I needed this. I'm missing this, Like 178 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: I'm missingeing that seeing my mama get remarried and see 179 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: how seeing how good of a father my stepdad is. 180 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying to my little brothers, it 181 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: was like damn, like this is what it was supposed 182 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 3: to be, Like you know what I'm saying. And as 183 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: a kid, I always just dreamed of having stability, And 184 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: I think that's the most important thing for a kid ever, 185 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: is just having some stability. 186 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: And so you know, me and my mom was like 187 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: and my mom and my brother, we used to. 188 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: Move and we used to move houses a lot, and 189 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: I always just wanted that stability. So now being in 190 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: a position that we are now and she's managing my 191 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: career and all of this is just a blessing because 192 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 3: I remember the positions. 193 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: That we used to be in. It just kind of 194 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: that kind of made me keep a good hit on 195 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: my shoulders too. Ca and my mom won't play I 196 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: don't know and. 197 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: No, and she will. She will tell you right away 198 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: when you're tripping. And that's what I love so much. Listen, 199 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: I you know, I got a very short glimpse when 200 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: we were in cann in France, and I adore your 201 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: whole family, Like I sat for hours and talked with 202 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: your stepdad, and his love for you is deep, is deep, 203 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: and for your mom and and for your you know, 204 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: your siblings, because you've got some young siblings. But what 205 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: I love so much about how you show up in 206 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: the world is you bring everyone with you. You bring 207 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: your whole family with you, because there's no you without them, 208 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: right And you don't see that often anymore. 209 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no you don't. 210 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: And it's crazy because I'll be seeing like a lot 211 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: of people having stories of where they people take advantage 212 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: of them, and they did this and they did that. 213 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: So I could understand that. But like my mom, like 214 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: I always wanted to dream of taking her places like that, 215 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: Like that's the first time I ever been to Europe. 216 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: When we went and came and that I had the 217 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: best time my life. 218 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: I was still talking about it like months after we went, 219 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 3: like that was truly the best experience I had in 220 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: my life, like for. 221 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 2: Real, for real, like I had never witnessed nothing like that. 222 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 3: Like I barely slept, I remember not sleeping, happen to 223 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 3: be up seven in the morning for a. 224 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: Panel and then doing it all over again. 225 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: But it was the best time in my life. So 226 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: and that experience that we had, we all kind of 227 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: left motivated. We kind of left like wow, like we 228 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: got a lot. 229 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: Of stuff to do. 230 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: But I want my mama to experience stuff like that 231 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: because I know she come from the same place I 232 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: come from. 233 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: My dad he did. 234 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: Fifteen years in prison. He probably never thought he would 235 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: go to Europe, you know what I'm saying. So I 236 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: just like I just want doing the experience with it 237 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: as much. 238 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: As I can. 239 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, I think we all have very 240 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: unique upbringings, and there's always a moment where you have 241 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: that that aha, where it really changes everything. And I'll share. 242 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, my family went through a really difficult time. 243 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: My dad got into a really bad accident and my 244 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: parents really lost everything, and we went on food stamps, 245 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: and I remember going to the grocery store with my 246 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: mom and there was someone that she knew and she 247 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: was so the feeling that I absorbed even as a child, 248 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: the pain and embarrassment of pulling out those food stamps 249 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: to make sure we eight it shifts. It really did 250 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: change everything for me because I was like, Oh, I 251 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: don't want my mom to ever experience that again. I 252 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: don't want her to ever feel that kind of shame 253 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: when she's doing the best she can to provide for 254 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: her children alone. And it really does shift how we 255 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: move in the world. And from then on, I was like, oh, 256 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: fuck this, Like, no, I will for every no, I'm 257 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: going to run through a brick wall for every failure, 258 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to get up seven more times, like and 259 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: that's what I tell people when because I had a 260 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: crazy mindset, I was a fucking competitor. But it was 261 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: literally very different for me because it was like life 262 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: or death at that point, because you're providing for people 263 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: that have nothing, that have have lost everything. 264 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, now that kind of that kind of was for 265 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: me too, just seeing everybody that I love, like you know, 266 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: in poverty, you know what. 267 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like that can kind of just do something 268 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: to you. Especially as a kid you had that mindset 269 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: of life. 270 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: First You're like, I don't want to go through this. 271 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: But it's like them, like I don't want them to 272 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: go through this, Like I don't want to see my 273 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: mama struggling. 274 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to see my grandma struggling. I don't 275 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: want to see I just don't want to see this. 276 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: So they Dude, I'm telling you, it's that same drive 277 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: that's like the It's. 278 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: Like damn, they're identical, that same drive that kind of 279 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: just pushed me to just go to Great News. It 280 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: kind of put you on a blind like you don't 281 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: see nothing else but your goal because you know, like 282 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: this my. 283 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: One way out, Like this, there's no plan B, there's 284 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: no backup, there's no backup plan. This is it I'm 285 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: putting I'm putting it all on the line for this, 286 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: like it has to be my ticket out. Right. So 287 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: so with that the podcast, as you know, it's called 288 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Wide Open. And I always ask this question to all 289 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: the guests because it has to do with life and sport. 290 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: What moment in your life really split you wide open? 291 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: And it could be in sports, it could be in 292 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: real life, like what was that one moment that that 293 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: literally flage changed it all for you? 294 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 2: M me, I've seen it was one time, Like I 295 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: don't know my mom, she might get. 296 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: Mad at this, but she'd be like, like, my mom, 297 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: we had just moved to Atlanta and. 298 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: This is I think this about the. 299 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: Time she tried to move just for like the rap 300 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: game and stuff like that, and like and my mama 301 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: don't ask anybody for anything. So the fact that she 302 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: was asking somebody for something, like I was like, DANMG, 303 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: like she really need this, like. 304 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 305 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: And I just seen her like kind of just in 306 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: a moment of helplessness and it's like damn, Like it 307 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: was just so sad because her mama can't afford to 308 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: give her no money, Like she don't. 309 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: Come from money, We don't come from generational world. 310 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: My dad is dead, my brother dad is in jail. 311 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, like we're really living 312 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: there stereotypical black family life. And and like we we 313 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: we used to live in these houses were like they 314 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: was called like show houses, so like you live in them, 315 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: they cheaper because you get to live in them until 316 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: they sell somebody buy me. 317 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: So it was like show houses. 318 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: And one time one sould and then we didn't have 319 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: another house to go to, you see what I'm saying. 320 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: And that's the first time I kind of seen my 321 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: mom break down, like you know what I'm saying, and. 322 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: That it just it just really just was like a 323 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: wake up call for me. 324 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: It was like we will never be in this position 325 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: to get as lung as I can help it, Like 326 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 327 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: Eventually, my mama hustle, so she had us in the 328 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: house real quick. 329 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: But that moment right there was just like nobody it 330 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: was like it was like nobody to go to. 331 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 332 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: And my mom, she she just sacrificed everything and in 333 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: that moment kind of just showed me like like man, like, 334 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: first of all, that taught me nobody gonna come save you. 335 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: So you gotta get up early in the morning and 336 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: go get you know what I'm saying. 337 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: And the second thing was like all I got is 338 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: my mom and you know what I'm saying in my family, Yeah, 339 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: because nobody was there and nobody you don't want it 340 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: to help nobody. 341 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: Even though my mama. 342 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: Looked pride for she probably you know after that, probably 343 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: she probably asked nobody, but nothing else. But you know, 344 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: nobody was there, and so I was like, you got 345 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: to catch yourself while you falling, And so that kind 346 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: of just locked me in. It was like, damn, like 347 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: it's this my time. So that was when I say 348 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: I was really wide opening. 349 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I think you know, that's what probably 350 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: drives you and makes you such a great performer and 351 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: such a great athlete is being able to bear witness 352 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: the hard work and sacrifices your family had to make 353 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: but also had to find a way. And you and 354 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: I know in sports, like you're never going to be 355 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: the fastest, you're never going to always be the best, 356 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: You're never going to always have the best day. But 357 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: like the greatest athletes of all time, find a way 358 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: to win, period. They find a way to win even 359 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: on their worst fucking days. They figure it out and 360 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: they find a way to win. And I really think 361 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: that you learn about that through life experiences that either 362 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: make you or break you. And I really appreciate and 363 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: I love that you said that, and you're vulnerable and 364 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: sharing that because some kids choose to do things very 365 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: differently and you put you made that your superpower. Yeah, 366 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 1: And I think that'll really carry with you through your 367 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: whole career. We'll be right back after this. Where did basketball? Like? 368 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: Clearly your father was a rapper and he didn't get 369 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: to finish the career he's set to have. And you know, 370 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: when you were young, you started going on you know, 371 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: different reality shows. You really started taking off on the scene. 372 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: You know, by what fourteen, you were already on America's 373 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: Got Talent like that. All of these things you're doing 374 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: were so incredible. Where the where was basket? Where did 375 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: basketball come in? 376 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: Basketball? 377 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: I always played basketball. I played basketball before I did music. 378 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 3: I was always into sports. 379 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: It's just I never Savannah so small. 380 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: It was never like a real AAU team like or 381 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: real anything on the circuit. And then when I moved 382 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 3: to Atlanta, I was just playing on my best friend 383 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: dad team and we was going to tournaments, but it 384 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 3: was the tournaments when we were just getting. 385 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: The last pool, no coaches watching and nothing like this. 386 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 3: So I was at a point I was just like, man, 387 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: I ain't I'm not doing this no more like it 388 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: was just fun. Like I was like, I read to 389 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: go to La Fitness and play the guys like that's 390 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: that's the point I got and I started going to 391 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: La Fitnis every day, playing against the guys. 392 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: I didn't train, I didn't do nothing. Then when I 393 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: got the high. 394 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: School, I went to go see my best friend game 395 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: and they was playing. I was like, man, they sucked 396 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 3: like that. And I was in high school, but I 397 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: wasn't in school because I did America's Got Talent. 398 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: I did the rap game and they had me homeschool. 399 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: So I'm like, bro, I want to play basketball, like 400 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: I want to play these girls like they sucked, Like 401 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying that. I posted it on 402 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 3: my snapchat. I was like, our garbage, Like if I 403 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: was playing, that would be nothing like that. But it's like, dang, 404 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: you're not playing. So I told my mom said I 405 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: don't want to rap no more like I just. 406 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: Want to play basketball. And I don't know what. 407 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: Light bulb went off in her head. But she was like, 408 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: you're not just gonna quiit rap, like you done built 409 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: up a name. You don't you're gonna got fans, Like 410 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: you're gonna do both, And I didn't think it was possible. 411 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 3: I'm just like, yo, okay, I'm gonna do both, just 412 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: like my mom is still like, I can't do I 413 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: gotta focus on one. 414 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: So my mom was really the genius. 415 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: And behind this whole thing because she's like, you're gonna 416 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: do both, and I'm sitting here, I'm just saying, Ya'm 417 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 3: gonna be both, just so I can play basketball, okay, ma, 418 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: y'all round? 419 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: Just so I played basketball. 420 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: But I ended up getting into a routine where I 421 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: would train all day, didn't go to the studio at night, 422 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: and I just start doing that every day. 423 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: I try and go to La Fitness play studio and 424 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: that train let's play. Okay. 425 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: Boe finally got into you know, school in high school, 426 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: and then that's when everything took off. My stepdad started 427 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: calling me big Foe and then everything to start, you know, 428 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: making his own. You know, once you get on the path, 429 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: you post to the universe and all the magic to 430 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: start conspiring and helping everything come together. But my mom 431 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: was the genius behind the doing both because I was 432 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: still thinking, like I'm not that's not that's impossible. 433 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: Well, it's just there's not enough hours in the day 434 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: to do what you do. So I still don't know 435 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: how you do it. But thank god youth is on 436 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: your side, girl, because I'm almost forty. I'm like, I'm 437 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: flowing down a little bit. 438 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: Man. 439 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 3: I've been feeling it though, Like I could tell the 440 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: energy that I had when I was younger, it's not 441 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: the same energy that I have right now, especially being 442 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: in college and doing all that. So I'm learning now 443 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: that less is more, that you got to rest, that 444 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: you gotta let your body regenerate. That you can't just 445 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 3: go honey, miles, power power power, You're gonna burn out, 446 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I kind of learned that 447 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: and can too, Like you ain't sleep, like you know 448 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like those four or five days, but 449 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 3: you got to gotta find some naptop or something. But no, 450 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: I'm starting to learn my body and understand what I 451 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: can and cannot do. 452 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: Because I like to do everything. I feel like I'm superwoman. 453 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day. 454 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 3: I'm still human, but I still like to operate at 455 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 3: a higher level than most people. 456 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So that's just my drive, 457 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 2: like do something nobody else doing. 458 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I truly believe this. You don't get to 459 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: the level that you like. I mean, I like to 460 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: call people like yourself one percenters, Like you choose to 461 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: be exceptional every single day at everything you do. Like 462 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: I truly believe this, when you become great, exceptional, extraordinary. 463 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: How you do anything is how you do. 464 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: How you do everything. I say that, I'm saying that 465 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: in my hand, but oh my god, you're riad in 466 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: my mind. 467 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. 468 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: My coach Bob Starkey told me that how you do anything, 469 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 3: it's how you do everything. 470 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: And I just started living it like that. 471 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 3: Like even when I go to Target, like I don't 472 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: feel like pushing the buggy back, I'm gonna go put 473 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: the buggy back, like, because you. 474 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 2: Know, how you do anything? Yeah, do everything. So it's 475 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: like those small things, but it's really true on for sure. 476 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it could be the smallest things. 477 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: I tell you, what, if I'm cleaning the floor, I'm 478 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: in a I got a toothbrush. I'm in that grout 479 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: like I'm it's great. Like some of my friends come 480 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: in they're like, are you good, and I'm like, I 481 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: just this is how I operate, Like I this is 482 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: me so as an athlete an artist. I mean, you've 483 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: got this celebrity stat like how how are you figuring 484 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: everything out at your age? And you're in this new relationship. 485 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: By the way your man's is, I mean, I'm a 486 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: gay woman, but he's fine. Honey, you did your you 487 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: did He's so yummy. I mean, following y'all on Instagram, 488 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is this is cute, your Christmas pictures, 489 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: like all of it, the way you support each other 490 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: because he's really successful at football. So I'm like, okay, 491 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: So you're you're juggling being an athlete, a fucking incredible 492 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: one incredible artist. You know, you now have to go 493 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: all over the world because of this celebrity status that 494 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: you have. You're in a relationship, you you are arguably well, 495 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: you are the highest paid NIL player, which means every 496 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: day off you have is work. I'm not an idiot, 497 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: I've lived it. Like, how how are you breathing? 498 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just just balance. You try to balance, 499 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: and I tried. I had to learn that I can't 500 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: do everything in one day. Like I had to learn 501 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: to first of all, get a team and delegate. My 502 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: team is very good and just communicating with them about 503 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 3: everything they need to get done. But just like everything 504 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 3: can happen one day, and I have to learn that, 505 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: Like I was the type of person I want to 506 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 3: do this, this, this, this, this, can we do it 507 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: to day tomorrow to like you. 508 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, It's like, you can't do that, 509 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: Like you see what I'm saying. So I had to 510 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: learn that. 511 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: And then really just like I said earlier, like I 512 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: have to rest and just spend my downtime with do 513 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, with the people that I 514 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: want to be with, and then you know, off days 515 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 3: our work. But you know, I try to keep the nil, 516 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: especially in the season, to a minimum, but not at 517 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 3: the end of the day. It's just like you you 518 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 3: make time for what you want, you know what I'm saying, 519 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: like and you you prioritize what you want. So that's 520 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: kind of where I am with everything, you know what 521 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm saying, with school, basketball work and I yeo my 522 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: relationship with my family. 523 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: You know, I'll be slacking on some stuff because you 524 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: can't really do it all, no, intentionally do it all. 525 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: Like you don't intentionally like I have to put have 526 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: sticky notes everywhere. I have sticky notes everywhere. I'm just like, 527 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 3: do that, like you know what I'm saying. So you 528 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: gotta be intentional about wanting to do it. And this 529 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: is what you're gonna give your energy to. 530 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: Ye. 531 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: It's interesting you you say that because I just was 532 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: watching and I love watching this. Shonda Rhymes did a 533 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: graduation like keynote speech and she's she's she's incredible and entertainment. She's, yeah, 534 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: she's great. 535 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: Great. 536 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: Yes, she said something really powerful. And I think a 537 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: lot of times we need to remind ourselves about this, 538 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: especially as women, because we're always told we're failing. We're 539 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: always told we're enough since we were kids, and I 540 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: think we inherently we embody those cultural perspectives that we're 541 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: not pretty enough, we're not smart enough, we're not fast enough, 542 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: we're not enough enough, enough, enough enough. And she said this, 543 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: she was like, people always ask how do I do 544 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: it all? And immediately she said, I don't because I'm 545 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: if I'm being the best mom to my kids, that 546 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: means I'm not writing what I need to be writing. 547 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: But if I'm writing for Grey's Anatomy after twenty one 548 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: years and I'm focused in a room writing for fifteen 549 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: to seventeen hours a day, I'm not at home. 550 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: I'm not mom. 551 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm not the best mom. So will it? Would I 552 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: ever change it? No? No, because my kids know what 553 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: it is. It is like to see a mom work 554 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: her fucking ass off, who chooses, like you said, every 555 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: single day to be exceptional. But I don't do it all. 556 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm always failing at something. It's it's because we don't 557 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: have enough time in the day to be the best 558 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: at everything. Because if we're focusing on greatness in this area, 559 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: that means we're not focusing on this other are. You know, 560 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: I've got two very very young kids, and I want 561 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: to be there to pick them up from school. I want, 562 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: you know, I value nighttime routine and telling stories and 563 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: reading books. But I also have to provide for them, 564 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: which means it will take me away from them at times, 565 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: and I don't like it. So it's like the like 566 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: what the fuck is balance? Like everyone talks about balance. 567 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know what that means, but 568 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: what I will say is they're learning valuable lessons about 569 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: just what you said about your mom, Like I'm real, 570 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm honest, I don't sugarcoat it. Then I'm sad and 571 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: I'm in pain. I don't pretend i'm not, but I 572 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: explain how like life works, and there's happy days, and 573 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: there's hard days, and there's sad days, and there's long days, 574 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: there's short like all of these things. But I think 575 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: you mold your kids into understanding, Like that's fucking respect. 576 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: I respect my mom because she did do all of 577 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: this when all odds were against it, and I think 578 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: that's such a beautiful thing. And what we have to 579 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: continue normalizing as women is, yeah, we we don't do 580 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: it all. We try to do it all, but we 581 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: fail at it, I mean truthfully, Like you put too 582 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: much energy into this, and then your partner's like, hello, 583 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: can we go on date night? I'm like, like, I 584 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: don't know if I have time for that, right right, 585 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: So that's so true. It's really interesting, and we have 586 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: to normalize that as women and not be so sad 587 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: about like maybe not being able to do it all 588 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: and failing and saying, oh, that's gonna have to wait, 589 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: or I'm going to have to prioritize this, and next 590 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: week it's gonna flip and that's okay, right. 591 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: So literally, literally, when I go home to Atlanta and 592 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: I'm on break, it's when I do like a lot 593 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 3: of my music and it's like, dang, I want to 594 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: spend time with a little brothers bobbing in the studio 595 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 3: from like ten to four in the morning. That and 596 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: I didn't want to play at five or six, and 597 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: I'm like dang, like I'm tired, like so, and it's 598 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 3: like like I want to spend that quality time. So 599 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 3: I definitely get it. Man, It's definitely a balance. But 600 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 3: I think balance is kind of what you're making your balance, 601 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm. 602 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: Saying, And your balance is not going to be the 603 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: same as my balance, and I think that's what makes 604 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: us smart and figuring it out. So so with college, 605 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, you're playing at LSU, you won, you came 606 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: in as a freshman and you won the national national championship, 607 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: and you've come into college at such a beautiful time 608 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: when nil is literally starting like this is very new. 609 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: No one really knows what to make of it. I 610 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: mean truthfully at the beginning, and everyone was like this 611 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: is such bullshit, Like they're just trying to stop they're 612 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: trying to stop players from leaving college early to go 613 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: professionally because you don't want to lose like I did 614 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: a fifth year and by the time I entered into 615 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: the pro draft, I was like, oh, I just fucking 616 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: wasted five years of making money. And like, no one 617 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: knows how long in their career is Like I I 618 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: don't know how, Like no one can predict longevity when 619 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: it comes to sports. You could have one injury and 620 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: like that's it. So it's it's now that you don't 621 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: have like you can prioritize playing, you can prioritize education 622 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: all while making money. Like I said, with all the love, 623 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: I would never leave, like I would go right back. 624 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: I would go right back to college. That was best 625 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: time of my life. But how different has that been, 626 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: because has it? Like I know, you don't know the difference, 627 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: but I'm just wondering if it takes the fun out 628 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: of college. Because you're a business woman, Flage, You're like 629 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: your business like you make a lot of money and 630 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: you're twenty one years old, so how has that changed 631 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: or is this just all you know? Like you don't know, 632 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: no difference, I'm no different. 633 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: It's it's different for me because I'm more confined. Like 634 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: you said earlier, I gotta watch what I do. 635 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: So it's more so like I said, I'm aware of everything. 636 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: I think I had to pay. People always say college 637 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: the best year of your life. I had the best 638 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 3: time of my life in high school was kind of fame. 639 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: I kind of know. 640 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: I wasn't famous though I was known, So I still 641 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: have fun. I could go to parties, I could go this, 642 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: I can. They're like, no, I can't really go nowhere 643 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: without security or something like that. So it's not the 644 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: same for me as it would be for other college 645 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: students life and I don't go out and I don't 646 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: party really like things like that, Like I can only 647 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: do that when I'm home for real. 648 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: So for me, it's our business. It's our business is 649 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: basketball is music. So you know, I say my fun 650 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: for the summer, but then again, in the summer, I'm still. 651 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: Working or or can and can. 652 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: For the show and show. 653 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: But even you know what I'm saying, I'm still working 654 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: so it's like for me, it's different, like I'm more 655 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: I would say, I'm more confined, and. 656 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: That's because of me. That's my choice. 657 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: That's my choice one thousand percent, because I know that 658 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: just it's just such a short window. 659 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: For me to accomplish everything that I want to accomplish. 660 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: So I just kind of just dial in and was like, 661 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna enjoy I'm I'm 662 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: gonna enjoy it, but I still gotta work, like I 663 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: still gotta make. 664 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: Cause I ain't gonna get this opportunity again. 665 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: So I now it's kind of like you look at 666 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 3: college different like some people they look at college like 667 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: I had the best time in my life, but that 668 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: was your time, Like y'all didn't have you know, yo, 669 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: y'alln't have brands of obligations that y'all had to you 670 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So now for me, it's just 671 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 3: like I'm just trying to make sure that I stay 672 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 3: on my p's and q's and I'm exploiting this thing 673 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: at the best of my ability. 674 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do it so gracefully, and I think 675 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: that that's what makes like it's not you're not that 676 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: kind of like person that's really in your face, like 677 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: roll out the red carpet for me, Like, You're not 678 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: like that at all, which I appreciate. What I'm so 679 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: interested is you you come in as a freshman. You know, 680 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: you win the national championship, you win what was it, 681 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: Freshman of the Year, You're you're playing Angel Reese? Is 682 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: she a senior? I think she's a senior? Right, so 683 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: she she leaves? And I want to know truthfully, like, 684 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: because I know what women's sports is, like, I know 685 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: the cat cattiness, I know the competitive drive, I know 686 00:32:53,800 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: the comparison constantly. How hard is it for you to 687 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: walk into a locker room of a bunch of women 688 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: trying to change their life just like you, who probably 689 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: aren't getting these nil deals but putting in the same 690 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: amount of time, you know, showing up for practice, having 691 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: the same kind of story like is flage? Is it hard? 692 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: And what I love about you is you always are 693 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: about the team. So I don't want to answer for you, 694 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: but I know exactly who you are. But I can 695 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: imagine that's fucking hard in a locker room because at 696 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: my age, when I'm not intelligently and emotionally evolved at 697 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen years old, and Flage's walking in and I 698 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: know the money she's making and I'm not, and you're 699 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: on the same team, Like, do you experience that? Do 700 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: you ever feel that? Does it ever weigh on you? 701 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: Or is it never a problem? Which I find hard 702 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: to believe in women sports period, because we're always comparing 703 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: ourself to everyone. 704 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I probably say keep it pushing in my 705 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: own business because you know, I'm human, So I definitely 706 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: feel it or like the energy or something like that. 707 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: Like most people, they won't come up to you and 708 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: be like, hey, bro, I. 709 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: Don't like you kaboo like that have some weird energy 710 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 3: to it. I don't get that, Like you know what 711 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying. But me, like, I know the type of 712 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 3: person I am, and it ain't like I'm coming here 713 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 3: and I'm like I'm flashing my AMG and my you 714 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I'm saying I got this million 715 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: dollar deal and I'm and I'm this, and I'm got 716 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 3: no like I really look at myself as you know, 717 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 3: a regular person, cause I am and I'm looking at 718 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 3: like I come here and work hard, like I come 719 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 3: and here day in, day out, two three times a day, 720 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 3: and when I earned this, and I feel like, if 721 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 3: you work for it, you gonna earn it. 722 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: Cause that's like the ball favors who the ball favors, you, see. 723 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 3: What I'm saying. So and I think like, if you 724 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 3: work for it, it's gonna favor you. And so I 725 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 3: try to, Like I have been through a situation that 726 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 3: I talk to my mom my stepdad about and just 727 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 3: be like, like, how do I navigate this? Like cause 728 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 3: like I ain't do nothing, like you know what I'm saying, 729 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 3: But it's just like its just come with it. 730 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: And my mom and my dad telling me any space 731 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: that you this is. 732 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 3: Just preparing you for when you go into you know, 733 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 3: the music space and you start dominating there. You're gonna 734 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: have people that don't like you for nor reason there. 735 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 3: So you kind of gotta just still be you. And 736 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 3: I just try to just stay humble because I know 737 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: that I work for this and I know I deserve you. 738 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 739 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: I know that I do right by people, So I 740 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: don't really think about it too much because I know 741 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: my heart, you know what I'm saying. 742 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 2: At the end of the day. 743 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 3: If you know how you are and how you treat 744 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 3: people and how they feel is a reflection of them, 745 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: you know. 746 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and anyone who spends enough time with you knows 747 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: that like it. It's very very clear, And I respect 748 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: that so so much. I respect you so much because 749 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: that is the way you carry yourself. Stick around. I'll 750 00:35:46,080 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: be back with more on Wide Open right after this. Now. 751 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: I love that you have the ability to really like 752 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: you and your mom are super close and the banter 753 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: between you, like you should have your own television show. 754 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know, like I don't know how that's 755 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: not in the works, But some of the banter like 756 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: kills me, Like it is so funny. How is it 757 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: working with your mom all the time on a professional level. 758 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, it need to be a show people don't want 759 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: to pay off. But nah, it's just very fun. 760 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 3: Like we had to figure out, like from when I 761 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 3: was younger, so when I got older, Like we had 762 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 3: to figure out that dynamic of being a mom and 763 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 3: being a manager. Like you know what I'm saying, And 764 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, you be a bomb right now, Like you 765 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, you don't need to be my 766 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 3: manager and telling me to do this, so I kind 767 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 3: of we just kind of had to go through that 768 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 3: phase of like really getting mad at each other and 769 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 3: not talking to each other for a long time and 770 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 3: really just like sucking it up and apologizing. But now, 771 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 3: you know, I don't look at her from what she 772 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 3: says as a mom. I kind of look at her 773 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 3: what she says like, you know, one of the best 774 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: managers or her profession, because the thing that she has 775 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 3: done for me, she got to be one of the best. 776 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 3: So you know, I kind of look at it from 777 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 3: that way and just don't get offenidhed like every kid 778 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 3: get offended when they mama say so late. 779 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 2: No, I'm won't bother to be right. 780 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,959 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I had started 781 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 3: learning like, yeah, sometimes I right, but most of the 782 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 3: time she right too. 783 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: So just kind of just putting the ego. 784 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: And pride to side and just getting a job done 785 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 3: because I know, at the end of the day, nobody 786 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 3: gonna go as hard for me as my mom gonna 787 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 3: go for me, you know what I'm saying. 788 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 2: So that's just the best person that I could have 789 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: on my side. 790 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear that. And the way your career has 791 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: really taken off, especially in twenty twenty four. I mean, 792 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: you're collaborating with Lil Wayne? Are you fucking kidding me? 793 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: That is in one weekend, you had your birthday, you 794 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: turned twenty one, you you were in it was at 795 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Were you on stage with Little Wayne? And 796 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: you had your home opening game? Right for this year, 797 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: for your season twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five season, 798 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: I was like, people, wait to fucking lifetime for your 799 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: one weekend all right? 800 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: Right? 801 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: Like I was like, she's on fire. What is it 802 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: like being you know, being flage at this but this 803 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: present moment where you're collaborating with such an icon in 804 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: the industry, Like did you fucking shit yourself? Or were you? 805 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: Like I'm I was meant for this, Let's go. I've 806 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: been doing this since I was twelve. 807 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 3: Both because you don't never get used to being with 808 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 3: Lil Wayne, you know what I'm saying, and him kind 809 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 3: of embracing you like that was crazy. 810 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 2: One of the greatest roubles of all time, if not 811 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 2: the greatest. So being like that's I still don't see. 812 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 3: That's the thing about me, Like I don't really basking 813 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: my accomplishments, and I don't know why I never get 814 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 3: a chance to really feel it, like you know what 815 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying, But probably because I'm always trying to like 816 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 3: focus on the next thing. But I never really just 817 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 3: sit and be like, wow, like what you did was great, 818 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 3: but I don't like the way. 819 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: You just explained it. 820 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 3: That do sound pretty crazy, but not man just performing 821 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 3: at the Espi's him being there shooting the video with 822 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 3: him there, like all of that was crazy, and he 823 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 3: still I got his numbrocer column anytime. 824 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: He just like hit me like that's crazy, Like you know. 825 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 3: That's Wayne, like d Wayne d Lil Wayne. And so 826 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: I don't know it's a blessing anything that I man. 827 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: Man like. 828 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: It just just goes to show the trajectory of the 829 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 3: path that I'm on because I did all that before 830 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 3: I turned twenty one, you know, and so I just 831 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 3: got to keep dominating, keep doing my thing. 832 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, And what I'll say is you just you just 833 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: said something really really interesting as someone who's retired and 834 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: struggles a lot with what you just said, and I 835 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: think it's important to like unpack that a little bit 836 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: for our puzzle. I went to do a panel on 837 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: Joy with Deepak and I was very honest and vulnerable 838 00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: and said, I have been so conditioned to suffer and 839 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: be excellent at my job for so long it has 840 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: altered what I feel joy is because as an athlete 841 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,479 Speaker 1: who is exceptional, you're unable to sit and enjoy any 842 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: moment because someone will pass you. So you as soon 843 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: as you win something, it's a mindset, inherent mindset as 844 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: an athlete to say, Okay, what's next, Like I could. 845 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: I won the World Cup and it was like I 846 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: enjoyed it for two point three seconds, and I was like, 847 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: what's next. We got the Olympics next year, let's fucking go. 848 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: I gotta make that roster, I gotta make that money, 849 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: I gotta make this bl blah bah blah blah blah. 850 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: And it's like, I like, think back to my career 851 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm like, did I fucking enjoy it? So 852 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: what I'll say is I hear you because I've lived it. 853 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: But at twenty one, you have done incredible things that 854 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: people do not experience in a lifetime. And I hope 855 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: you learn the value of joy because it goes by quick. 856 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: And I don't want you to be so conditioned to 857 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: suffer that you don't enjoy the ride. 858 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, and and and that's a thousand percent. 859 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 3: This is a thousand percent. That's just the mindset that 860 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: you have. And it's like you have to have that 861 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 3: so you don't get complacent, you know. But the day 862 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 3: it's like, I don't know, it. 863 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 2: Kind of kind of suppressed that other feeling, you know 864 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 865 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. It's a it's a it's a 866 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 1: grind doing what we do, and it's very lonely. It's 867 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: a very lonely road that people do not understand because 868 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: you have to be selfish, you have to have an ego, 869 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: you have to kind of like pull yourself away from 870 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 1: the pack to focus on the job at hand. It's 871 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: like you it's a very unique lonely life. I think 872 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: people don't understand you miss everything. I missed everything. I 873 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: didn't get to see all of my friend's weddings. I 874 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: didn't get to see birthdays, I didn't get to see 875 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: births we like anything, I was so selfish in my 876 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: entire career. I barely have a relationship with my brother 877 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: and my parents. And it's I'm having to repair that now, yeah, 878 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: which is going to take time. It's going to take time, 879 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 1: and I hope you're you know, you're doing things differently 880 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: and you bring your family along with you, And I 881 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: envy it because I did. I made mistakes. I made mistakes, 882 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: and I think sharing that and being vulnerable about it 883 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: is important. And I think you're showing people a different 884 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: way of doing it. And look how it's paying off. 885 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's been incredible to be a small 886 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: part of it, to watch your success over these last 887 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: few years. 888 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 2: Thank you ya. 889 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 3: I think for me while my little brothers, like that's 890 00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 3: the main thing. 891 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 2: Like I don't have no choice but to miss birthdays 892 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 2: and Halloween's and all that. I don't want to miss that, 893 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 2: Like you. 894 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, Like I'm not that's not you 895 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like I don't want to miss 896 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 3: that in it. That was the hardest part for me 897 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 3: to come to college and being a firstman, just being 898 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 3: away from my family because even when I was home, 899 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: I wasn't always home, but I was more there, like 900 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 3: seeing them grow up, eve know, working out three four 901 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 3: times a day, I still got the quality time with them. 902 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 3: And then when you going to college, it's like dangn 903 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 3: like you missing this and I don't want to be 904 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 3: eighteen years old and now they already grown and it's 905 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 3: stuck in their ways and I don't even really know 906 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 3: if I don't want to be like this. So that's 907 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 3: why I'm just I try to make sure they come 908 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 3: as much as they can and everything like that. 909 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think also, I'm gonna just keep sharing 910 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: little stories about you know, following you on social media. 911 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: There's one like image that's burned in my brain is 912 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: when you walk your little You have two little brothers, right, 913 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: I got four? Four? 914 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 2: Two? 915 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: Are they? What are the youngest two? The one that 916 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: always competing? 917 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 2: Oh, MJ and Aiden? 918 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 919 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? And I saw you walk them to the bus 920 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: stop for school and you see them their back you 921 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: know they're young, you know, their backpacks bigger than their body. 922 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 2: Right. 923 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: But for me, I had like this moment of she 924 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: has a million things going on in her life. She 925 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: probably was up all night doing god knows what music, 926 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: all the things to catch up, and then she still 927 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: wakes up at the ass kraka dawn to walk her 928 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: little brothers to the school bus because you know how 929 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: much that means to them. And I'm like, oh, she's 930 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: the real deal, Like that's who you are. 931 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I know, and I'm like, I know, 932 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 3: I don't get to see them, so when I am there, 933 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 3: I try to do as much as I can. 934 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 2: Like just taking them to school. 935 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 3: They don't remember, like you know, dang, I remember when 936 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 3: flight to take us to the bus stop. We used 937 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,959 Speaker 3: to race and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying, 938 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 3: Or to go up there, and I just. 939 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: Pick him up early, even if my Mama don't want 940 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 2: me to go places and stuff like that, because I 941 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 2: know that the time that I have with him. 942 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 3: Is so precious, is so limited, you know, And the 943 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 3: lifestyle that I want to live, I know I'll be 944 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 3: going more, especially when I get out of college, you 945 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 3: know what I'm. 946 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 2: Saying, doing music, all types of stuff like this. 947 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 3: So I've tried to kind of just cherish that time 948 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 3: because it goes so quick. Like I remember, I used 949 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 3: to change my brother Nixon diapers and now he's like 950 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 3: tallmost tall as me. So time goes by so fast. 951 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: It's so true. So what's next, like Flage, I mean, 952 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: you've checked so many boxes. I don't know. I mean, 953 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 1: your goals must be endless at this point, but what's 954 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: next for you? 955 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 2: Like? 956 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: What do you You're a junior at school right now? You 957 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: are you know, I know you're hunting another national championship. 958 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: You had a new album release, which I have all 959 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: the March work work, But what's next for you? 960 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 2: Like? 961 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: What? What is what? What's the biggest drive in this moment? 962 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: Are you interested in going to the w NBA in 963 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five? Are you? Like? What is it? 964 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 2: Like? 965 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: This is possibility? Abilities are endless for you. 966 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 3: I know the possibilities are endless, but I tell you 967 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 3: the real answers. I don't know, Like I've been in 968 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 3: a spot where I've kind of just like been trying 969 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 3: to just focus on like my mental health. I think 970 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 3: for me, I have to get back to a spot 971 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 3: of like joy, you know what I'm saying like that, 972 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 3: And I just really don't know what that looks like 973 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 3: right now. I know, like I just keep I know, 974 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 3: I wake up, go to the gym, do everything, because 975 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 3: that's my routine. But I want to find joy back 976 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 3: into the small things. So that's kind of like what 977 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 3: I'm working on and just letting things flow and not 978 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 3: kind of putting the pressure on it, like. 979 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 2: Like it's things that I want to do. 980 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 3: I know I want to do, especially pursuing, But I've 981 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 3: learned that those tasks, like those big things that we do, 982 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 3: that's not really the things that. 983 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 2: Keep us like going and happy and motivated. 984 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 3: Like those those are part of the story, but it's 985 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 3: the little stuff that you do every day that kind 986 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 3: of make you happy and that give you joy. So 987 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 3: that's the thing that I'm kind of working on right now. Like, 988 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 3: you know, the intangibles I like to call them, not 989 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 3: the stuff that I could touch or the things that 990 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 3: I could feel, but the things that I can't the 991 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 3: things that I'm trying to grasp but I can't, you 992 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I've really been in that 993 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 3: spot for real, like and I'm in a spot of 994 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 3: like reflection, a period of reflection. I think as the year, 995 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 3: the old year just went away, you know what I'm saying, 996 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 3: the new year came. I'm just in a spot reflecting 997 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 3: on how I can be better, how I can make 998 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 3: things better, and how I could just be understanding more 999 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 3: and take my mindset. 1000 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 2: Like that's where I'm at right now. 1001 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 1: Wow, powerful at your age too understand that, like is 1002 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: incredible and you have to take care of yourself through 1003 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: this process because so many people are gonna want so 1004 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 1: many things from you. And I have no doubt you 1005 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: have the best team around you and everyone rooting for you, 1006 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: but like you know, like yourself better than anyone else, 1007 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 1: and prioritizing your mental health is key because you potentially 1008 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: could be doing this for a very very long time. Yeah, 1009 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,280 Speaker 1: and if you don't have joy and this one chance 1010 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: and one shot we have and none of us know 1011 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: when our time's up. Finding and holding on to that 1012 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: is something like you're gonna have to do over and 1013 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,240 Speaker 1: over and over in your career, Like it's this isn't 1014 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: going to be the only time where you have to 1015 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: sit back and reflect and say what is my why? 1016 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 2: Why? 1017 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: Why do I do this? 1018 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 2: Like? 1019 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 1: Why am I doing this if I don't feel anything? 1020 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: So I'm happy to hear you are prioritizing your mental health. 1021 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: And I'm curious when you say that, like what does 1022 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 1: joy look like for you right now off the field, 1023 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: Like what things are you holding on to that that 1024 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: reminds you of your why? 1025 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1026 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 3: No, Me and my brother was kind of just talking 1027 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 3: about this, and he said, like he had these small off. 1028 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 2: Days where he just do all the things that he 1029 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:34,399 Speaker 2: loved to do. 1030 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 3: Like he'll go clean up and then he'll go, you 1031 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, see a movie, or he'll go 1032 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 3: to his favorite restaurant and grab a meal and just 1033 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 3: have a date with hisself and things like that. So 1034 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 3: I gotta really like find out like those small things. 1035 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 2: But it's crazy. 1036 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 3: The things that make me happy is the things that 1037 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 3: I really do, like music, Like I like to record music, 1038 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 3: and I haven't recorded a long time, and I just 1039 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 3: came to my. 1040 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 2: Studio and I'm like, dang, I got music, Like I 1041 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,479 Speaker 2: can record, like you know what I'm saying. 1042 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 3: So now I think it's just finding the small loving 1043 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 3: the things it is. 1044 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. 1045 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 3: Like That's why I say who you haven't like, who 1046 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 3: you have around is important because. 1047 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: Especially for people who are humble, they tend to forget. 1048 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 3: Who they are, you know what I'm saying, And that 1049 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 3: this and you it's like it's great to be humble, 1050 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but you still got to have 1051 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 3: people around you who can remind you who you are. 1052 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you can do this, 1053 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 3: like you capable of this, Like you know what I'm 1054 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 3: saying you are still that you are the same. 1055 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 2: Person, you know what I'm saying, in that type of realm. 1056 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,479 Speaker 3: So I think that's where I'm at right now, because 1057 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 3: I know I love That's why I love waking up 1058 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 3: in the morning and getting shots. So when it started 1059 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,399 Speaker 3: turning into just a routine for me and I wasn't 1060 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 3: being intentional about it, and I'm like, Okay, I have 1061 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 3: to figure out a different approach to this. 1062 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1063 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 3: And now that doing that, my outcome being better at 1064 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 3: my mindset being better than i've been, feeling more motivated. 1065 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 3: So it's just about now putting my pen to the pad, 1066 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 3: sitting at a desk and really just reflecting on what 1067 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 3: I want to do and what that looks like and 1068 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,320 Speaker 3: kind of visualizing that because I'm a visual person. 1069 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 2: So that's where I'm right now. 1070 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: Wow, Well you are wise beyond your years, I'll tell 1071 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: you that, and you've got such a great head on 1072 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: your shoulders. So I am so happy you chose to 1073 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: come on. I am really hopeful and I look forward 1074 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: to continue watching you through the twenty twenty five season. 1075 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: I want you to win this national championship. I want 1076 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 1: you to win in life period. I want you to 1077 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: enjoy it. At the same time. You got that big, 1078 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: beautiful smile and you bring it into every room. And 1079 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: I love that our paths continue to cross, and I'm 1080 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: grateful for you, know, the times that we get to 1081 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: spend together, because thank you and your family are the 1082 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 1: real deal. And I think you're going to really do 1083 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: some big things in your life and I can't wait 1084 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 1: to support that. So thank you for being so wide open. 1085 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 1: Thank you for being a guest on the podcast. And 1086 00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: I know you have your own podcast. I know you 1087 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,879 Speaker 1: have all these things going for you. Do you want 1088 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: to tell the viewers and the listeners where they can 1089 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: find you your new album, your podcasts? Like promote yourself 1090 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: honey man. 1091 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all can follow me on all of my social 1092 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 3: media's at flage A f L A U j A E. 1093 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,879 Speaker 3: I got music out right now. I just dropped the song. 1094 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 3: Of course, I got the song a little Wayne, but 1095 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 3: I just dropped best of both worlds. 1096 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: Y'all can buy my jerseys and support my Nio festivities 1097 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 2: that have going on. It's all in my bio on Instagram. 1098 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 3: But now I really want to say thank you and 1099 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 3: you know, I really genuinely you know, ever since we 1100 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 3: love Can just been following you and your family and 1101 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 3: I just love everything you do. So it was a 1102 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 3: blessing to be on the podcast. 1103 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,919 Speaker 1: Oh thanks Flage, and I account me count I will 1104 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: be at one of your games by the end of 1105 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: this season. So hold me to it, everyone, everyone, hold 1106 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: me to it. Sophia keeps talking about it. She wants 1107 00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 1: to you know, Sofia and your mom. I thought I 1108 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: had to pull them apart at one point. I'm like, yeah, 1109 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: like they are two peas in a pod, So you gotta. 1110 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: We're going to get the whole family out there supporting you, 1111 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,919 Speaker 1: and we really look forward to it. Best of luck 1112 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, and say hi to 1113 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: your mom for me. 1114 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 2: I got you, Thank you. 1115 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on for sure. Wide Open with Ashland 1116 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 1: Harris is an iHeart women's sports production. You can find 1117 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 1118 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 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