1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: I think that the Ravens would love one of the 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: top two corners to be there at number fourteen, and 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: the top two in your mind are I don't even 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: go up to the second floor. I stay in behind lane. 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear nothing. I don't want to 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: see nothing. I ain't gonna ever be accused of being 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: a snitch. You see a prospect in here on a visit, Nah, 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm taking my food to go. I don't know who 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: that is. I'm willing to give up a fourth round 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: pick to move up a few spots and get one 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: of those guys, to get a great player at a 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: position I think of very high need. I just spit. 13 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: That was huge. I'm gonna start wearing a poncho to 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: do the podcast one. Welcome into the Lounge presented by 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Draft Kings. We are ramping up into the draft. The 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Ravens just concluded their pre draft press conference on Tuesday 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: with Eric da Costa, Joe Ortiz, and John Harball, and 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a little bit about that in 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: our Biggest Takeaways as well as our latest thoughts on 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens draft prospects. As pro days to keep continuing 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: on they're they're wrapping up soon here. Yeah, visits are underway. 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on, you know. Lacy DaCosta sent 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: me a message on Twitter and said, I gotta get 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: up there before the padlock goes on the snacks. Oh 25 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: in the draft room. In the draft room. Do they 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: have a snacks out yet? Apparently they're in the draft 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: room and not under lock and key yet. Wow. But 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: I told her this is also the time of the 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: year that I don't go any I don't even go 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: up to the second floor. No, I stay in behind 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: the lane. I don't want to hear nothing. I don't 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: want to see nothing. I ain't gonna ever be accused 33 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: of being a snitch because I know nothing. Yeah, exactly, 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: if you don't want to like hear any like you know, 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: conversations that are taking place in the corner, you just 36 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: if you see that happening, If you see, like DaCosta 37 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: Harball having a conversation, you know, in the corner, you 38 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: turn around and you go the other way. Like, I 39 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: don't even want to be in the vicinity. Exactly. You 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: see a prospect in here on a visit, Nah, I'm 41 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: taking my food to go. I don't know who that 42 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: is exactly. I definitely didn't see Lamar Jackson eaton in 43 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: here a few years ago. I didn't see that. Uh huh. 44 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: That's definitely how it goes. But I mean I didn't 45 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: even realize because we don't go in the draft room, 46 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: but I didn't realize. I've heard the rumors of the 47 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: great snacks that are in there, but Draft day, we 48 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: know it's legendary. Well, Draft Day, that's the whole building. 49 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: That's the whole building. I mean, it's there. I'm sure 50 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: as I've checked it out, you've gone in. I haven't 51 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: gone in. It sounds like sounds like you're snooping around 52 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 1: for information. But on the outside sometimes you know, outside 53 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: the draft room, they can have the ice cream cart 54 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: kind of so yeah, you gotta mosee by it. At 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: least you got to check it out, partake, but checked 56 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: it out. Uh huh. Yeah, the whole building on draft weekend, 57 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: that'll be um when we do our full draft recap. Uh, 58 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be. We'll also recap snacks and give you 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: a full rundown on what's in the building. Draft stack snack, 60 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: draft snack draft. So h look, look, it is a 61 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: busy week. Um, pro days are continuing. Uh and then 62 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: obviously this week was a pre draft press conference. Yeah, 63 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's always funny every year, you know, 64 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: the media kind of calls that the liars lunch in, 65 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: and that's like a name that is stuck to some degree. 66 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know that that's always the case. Sometimes 67 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: you feel like it's always funny because sometimes you feel 68 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: like you look back and you're like, they told us 69 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: exactly what they were gonna do. Other times you look back, 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: like last year was wine, right, That's what I was 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: just to say last year, Like, how dare you you 72 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: assume that we need a wide receiver? Yeah, we don't 73 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: need any wide receivers. Yeah, we're great our whole wide 74 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: receivers corps. We stand pat you know. Then first round, 75 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: first pick for shot Bateman, yep. But and then followed 76 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 1: up with Toil and Walls fee picks later a few 77 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: rounds later. Exactly. I think we could all kind of 78 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: see through that one. I thought, I thought, let's just 79 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: dive into it here. Some of our biggest stakeaways are 80 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: my biggest stakeways at least center is a position that 81 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about with Bradley Boseman going to Carolina. 82 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: You know, what are they going to do at Center? 83 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: We've we've posed that question on this podcast multiple times. Well, 84 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: I think Eric Dicta, I mean he said he said 85 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: the word honestly. He said, we honestly look for big 86 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: guys at center. Yeah. Right, and to me, Tyler Linderbaum, 87 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: who we had it. We're trying to get Mel Kiper 88 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: on the pod. Not locked down yet, but I'm gonna 89 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: grill him on the Tyler linder Bomb being too small 90 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: for the Ravens. You know what they like at center? 91 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: Because Mel's sticking with this linder Bomb pick. He's holding 92 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: fast to it, and I just I just don't see it. 93 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: And I believe Eric cost when he says I want 94 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: bigger centers, like that's been the Ravens history. Matt Burke, 95 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Jensen, you know some of these bigger guys, Bradley Bozeman, 96 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: have you know the guys who have succeeded have been 97 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: bigger guys. I think that's what they want to continue 98 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: in linder bamb is like the smallest offensive linement in 99 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, just as a reference point on linder Bomb, 100 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: He's listed at six foot two, two hundred and ninety 101 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: six pounds, I'm pushing that same weight at this point, 102 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna play center, No, he is. He is an 103 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: undersized player at that possession. Now the draft analysts also 104 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: say on him is that from a true center prospect, 105 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: he's one of the best cleanest prospects that you're going 106 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: to find at the center position. And that's looking over 107 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: the past few years of the draft. He's one of 108 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: the best there. Sure, But I think they also are saying, like, 109 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: scheme dependent. If he's put in the right scheme, I 110 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: think he could be a multi year pro bowler. But 111 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: if he's not in the right scheme, he could still 112 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: be a very good player. I think like he's got 113 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: a lot of intangibles. He's got a lot going for him. 114 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: He's a great talented player. I'm just saying, like, if 115 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: I don't think a team that runs a scheme like 116 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens, necessarily he will thrive where as much as 117 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: he would somewhere else. Yeah, So let's just continue the 118 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: conversation on center, because I think it is interesting and 119 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: a point that I was just kind of intrigued by 120 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: the conversation during the pregat press conference was when you're 121 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: drafting offensive lineman and you're building that line, a lot 122 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: of the projection is involving like projecting guys at a 123 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: new position and centers. One of the key examples of that, 124 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: like Bozeman actually was the center in college, but then 125 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: they put him at guard and then he moved back 126 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: to center. Patrick McCarry was a tackle in college. Now 127 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: he's in line to be the starting center as of 128 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: right now. Ryan Jensen, who has become one of the 129 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: best centers in the league, was a tackle, small school college, 130 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: late round pick, so developmental there. But like, so when 131 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: you're making the projections, and da Costa said basically, like 132 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: we think in the second, third, fourth round of the draft, 133 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: there could be some center options that we really like. 134 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: But it sounded to me based on that that he's 135 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: talking about projections, like maybe it's not a guy who's 136 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: a center necessarily. I took it the wrong the other way. 137 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: I thought he was saying as opposed to other years 138 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: where there's really like one or two centers and maybe 139 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: a couple other that are draftable at all, Like this year, 140 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: we see that in the middle round, second third, fourth, 141 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: that there's some actual like college center center, true centers 142 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: who could step in and be good picks. I took 143 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: it as him saying, we like guys who we think 144 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: could play center in the second, third, fourth round, but 145 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: other teams may not necessarily see them as a center. 146 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: But but he was saying that a lot of teams 147 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: are doing that projection. Of course. Of course, that's like 148 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: more and more teams are doing that that game, right, 149 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: and so everyone's trying to make that I agree, everyone's 150 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: trying to make that projection, but it's sometimes difficult to know, 151 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: like other teams may have a different estimate as to 152 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: whether that guy can truly end up being a center. 153 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: But the question, like going back to the original point 154 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: on whether they're being truthful or not, is you say 155 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: all that we love these guys in the second, third, 156 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: fourth round. We're looking day two, day three at center, 157 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: we're looking at big centers. So you're like, okay, so 158 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: you're taking Tyler Linderbaum in the first round the smoke screen, 159 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, But I don't think that one's a smoke screen. 160 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: I think, like the Raven's history, to me, that one 161 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: is legit. Yeah, yeah, that's how I read that one. Well, 162 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: all it does, like to your point, if you just 163 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: look at the track record, right, the track record shows 164 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: one the Ravens scheme and just what they like to 165 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: do up front. Yeah, you know they like to be big. 166 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: How many times have you heard Daniel Jeremiah say, you 167 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: know what, the Ravens like, big people, big human beings 168 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: who are athletic and like you know, so they like 169 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: to bully people up front. That's what they want, ye 170 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: all right. So the other I thought one of the 171 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: other interesting takeaways was at cornerback, you know where where 172 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: he talked about the death really at three spots. I 173 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: thought that he said that there was good depth cornerback, 174 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: pass rusher, and tackle, you know, said we could take 175 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: one the first or we could take one in the 176 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: second or third or fourth round. I mean, how many 177 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: fourth round picks we have ten? Yeah, so you know, 178 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: I see those positions. As you know, he's obviously not 179 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: going to say, like we have to get a first 180 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: round corner or whatever. But I think the Ravens are 181 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: in a good position in that the draft is strong 182 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: at those spots, particularly at pass rusher, where they're obviously 183 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: big needs cornerback, pass rusher at the top of my 184 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: list of needs, and you don't necessarily have to be 185 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: locked in taking one in the first round. That was 186 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: music to your ears when you started talking about the quarterbacks, cornerbacks, 187 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: right corners. Oh yeah, I started clapping in the back 188 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: of the press conference. I'm all about drafting corners. Well, yeah, 189 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: you go on five of them. You want to use 190 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: those first three picks on corners, Well, I mean he 191 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: did say like they're concerned about their cornerback depth and 192 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: like it doesn't take a genius to look at the 193 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: roster say you're going to need some more corners on 194 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: the team. So I definitely I think they're gonna double 195 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: up a corner at some point, yep. Like, and I 196 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: think that they're gonna certainly take one in the first 197 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: three rounds, yep, oh for sure. If they don't, I'm 198 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to stand up and scream. If they don't 199 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: get one of the first three, if we're going to 200 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: that fourth round we still haven't picked a corner, we 201 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: got problem. Yeah. I think they'll take one in the 202 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: first three, and I think they'll probably then double up 203 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: with another one in the fourth. I think so. Yeah, 204 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a double up corner. 205 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: But the thing is too you know, do you double 206 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: up an offensive line? Do you you know? Pass rusher? 207 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: Probably not, you know, I mean you know me. I 208 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: have saw a spot for Dale Hayes. I think he 209 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: could be somebody. So um, but you need you need 210 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: another pass rusher for sure because justin Heuson still a 211 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: free agent, Tias Bowers is coming off in a Chilees. 212 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: You need one for sure, and you need one. I 213 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: think that can make an impact as a rookie, not necessarily, 214 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: not necessarily be a starter, but he's got to play 215 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: a pretty fairly sizeable role. Um, you know, depending on 216 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: Tias Bowser's health. So um, But back to corner. I 217 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: think now the Ravens would love one of the top 218 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: two corners to be there at number fourteen. And the 219 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: top two in your mind are Sauce Gardner and uh 220 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: and my guy Derek Stingley. That's who I well, I 221 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: like both those guys. Um, So I think the Ravens 222 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: would sprint to the podium if Stingley or Sauce is 223 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: there at fourteen. Yeah, and as we're taping this um 224 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: just about an hour ago, Derek Stingley had his pro 225 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: day at LSU, and I think he made it much 226 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: less likely that he's there at number fourteen because the 227 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: question on him was the foot coming back from that, Well, 228 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: he just got cleared originally. Then he went out there 229 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: and ran forty yard dash between four three three and 230 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: four three seven seconds. Four three three. Somebody had him, 231 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: Someone had him four three three. The Ravens scout was 232 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: the one that had him at fourty seven. Yeah, yeah, 233 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: you guys get one. Oh god, that guy slowed at 234 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: a four seven yeah, yeah, yeah, it's and it's the 235 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Chiefs at the back of the first round. They're like 236 00:10:54,600 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: four two yeah, don't let him go to Baltimore. So yeah, 237 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with you. It seems like those 238 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be just out of the Ravens reach. 239 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: And this is I just got done saying this to Garrett. 240 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm usually not a proponent of the trade up scenario. 241 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: Everybody always wants to trade up, right, and I'm like, 242 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, not that I'm so against it, it's 243 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: just that I don't think the Ravens will do it 244 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: right because they hate giving away draft picks. This year, 245 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: I'll know. I just feel like you have a lot 246 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: of fourth round picks. Eric de cos I asked him 247 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: the question of whether he feels like having so many 248 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: five fourth round picks, whether he has more flexibility than 249 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: years past. He said yes. He also gave you the 250 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, we could trade up get more picks, stamp 251 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: pet you can make it only one picks, um. But 252 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: I just I feel like if one of those guys 253 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: Stingley or Sauce is there, you know, most projections have 254 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: him somewhere between ten and fourteen, you know, eight and fourteen, 255 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: somewhere around there. You know, a lot to the vikings 256 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: at twelve, Like, if one of those two guys is there, 257 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: and you know whoever the eleventh team is number eleven 258 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: team is on the clock, I'm interested in moving up 259 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: and jumping the vikings because you don't have to move 260 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: up that far, and it would be to get a 261 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: really great player that you feel strongly about. Obviously the 262 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: Ravens have to feel very strongly about both of them. 263 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: Was Stingley. There's the injury questions to a degree, there's 264 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: you know, some inconsistencies and that's kind of knocking him down. 265 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,239 Speaker 1: But a very talented player who I think like checks 266 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: checks every box of what the Ravens would want to 267 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: be as a player. You know, good hands, good ball skills, 268 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: big fast, physical compress. Like, to me, he's what you 269 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: want in a Ravens corner. Yeah. Like he if you're 270 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: drawing up in the lab, like, he's got all the 271 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: tools to be an all pro corner in the NFL. Right, 272 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: And so the reason why he's even getting close to 273 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: you at fourteen is because of some of this injury 274 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: and inconsistency stuff. And then Sauce Gardner is a great 275 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: talent too, So to me, I'm willing to give up 276 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: a fourth round pick or some package to move up 277 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: a few spots and get one of those guys, to 278 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: get a great player and at a position I think 279 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: of very high need. Yeah, and you know DaCosta is 280 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: always looking for the potential of wheeling and dealing. So 281 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: let's just say you're moving up from fourteen to ten 282 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: or fourteen to eleven. Yeah, if it's going to take that, 283 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: just say it's going to take a third round pick. Well, 284 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: you have again the ammunition in that fourth round. If 285 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: you want to get back exactly, you could try to 286 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: do that package. A couple picks or something like that. Yeah, 287 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: and they have all of these picks, and so it's 288 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: just or you move back in the second and that 289 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: picks you know whatever. Yeah. Yeah, so then you still 290 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: end up getting four players in your top fifty exact. 291 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: You know, if that's a priority, you don't want to 292 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: give up one of those top fifty players, top seventy players, 293 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: whatever that threshold is for you, you you can still use 294 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: your capital to ensure that you get that done exactly now. Stingley, 295 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: I do think he could be potentially worthy of that. 296 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: The other guy who I talked about this in the 297 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: Final Drive earlier this week is Cavon Thibodeaux, which is 298 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: kind of interesting, interesting one if he starts sliding down 299 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: in that territory. I'm very also, very interested because it's like, 300 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: all right, so it's it's always funny at this time 301 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: of the year. And I've said this before on the podcast, 302 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: like right now, you've got fifty guys who everyone says 303 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna be first round picks, and obviously there's only 304 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: thirty two of them, and then in the first half 305 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: of the draft, that is there's twenty top ten picks. 306 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: There's twenty top ten picks of course, right, you know 307 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: everyone's saying that. So a couple of things. If you're 308 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: watching the draft, you're just cheering for the quarterbacks. You're low. 309 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: You love for the quarterbacks to go early. If that happens, 310 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: then like Stingley or Thibodeau or one of these guys 311 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: is gonna sauce. So with Thibodeaux, Yeah, like Tibodeaux going 312 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: into the season, people are like, yeah, he's the best player, 313 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: he's the number one overall pick. And then it's the 314 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: pre draft process and he's still it's hot five pick, 315 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: like at the combine. Now it's a month later and 316 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: it's like a bad interviews at the combine, inconsistency, play 317 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: to play effort questions. I don't know, maybe maybe ten. 318 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: He could be in the teens. It's like whoa, whoa, whoa, Okay, 319 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: all right, and then you look at the guy's production. 320 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: He was really good, Like could this be a case 321 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: where the Ravens get one of the best defensive players 322 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: in the draft And all of sudden he's there at 323 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: fourteen and everyone's saying, how did he get to Baltimore? 324 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: How did that guy get there? Like surprised if he 325 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: got to fourteen. But I mean if he gets into 326 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, the ten eleven, twelve range, you know, like 327 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm interested in I'm making a phone call, I'm picking 328 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: up the phone. If that happens, I'll tell you that much. Yeah, 329 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: because once again, great player at a huge position. Need 330 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: like if you can scratch both of those off, to me, 331 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. And then the other 332 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: one is that's falling for like reasons that you know, 333 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: not like football player or reasons you know what I mean. Yeah, 334 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: Like you're getting a bargain even though you have to 335 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: trade up. Yeah. Yeah. And again this is a guy 336 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: who the expectation was that he was gonna be a 337 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: top three pick. Speaking of top three picks, your guy, 338 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker Cinara. So you know, if you've been listening 339 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: to the draft talk over the past, you know, a 340 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: couple of months, Nike has talked about him, how he's 341 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: locked him in at number fourteen for the Ravens. Locked 342 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: in dude early. And I've never seen somebody's skyrocket up 343 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: the first round draft for Jecsons Fester than Treyvon Walker. Wholy. 344 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's my fault. I talked I talked him 345 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: up too much. Yeah, you let everybody know the secrets out. 346 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: And Charles Davis's mock draft that came out this week, 347 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: he had him number one overall. I'm not gonna numero 348 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that's gonna happen. But and 349 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: you've locked him in and your mom. A lot of 350 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: people have him number two to the Lions now, like 351 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: it's just it. Yeah, it's a bummer, Like this is 352 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: what happens. I feel like this time of years, you 353 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: always feel like your guys like, oh, now they're doing good. 354 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: You know, I was hoping Stingon was gonna pull up 355 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: lane with a little little calf, little hamstringing I eat, Oh, 356 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: I gotta call him for the rest of the day. 357 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: I can't run, you know, That's what I was hoping for. 358 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: But you know, then he blows it up and you're like, man, 359 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: all these guys that I like, now they're not gonna 360 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: make it to the Ravens. Sometimes though, you get there 361 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: and you're like wow. You know, it feels like every 362 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: year there's always somebody that slips through the cracks. But like, 363 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: right now I'm going through this exercise and I'm like, 364 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: all right, you know, if he's not there. If he's 365 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: not there, if he's not there, if these guys that 366 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't like aren't there, who are the Ravens gonna 367 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: be looking at a number fourteen? And here's what I got, Okay, 368 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, Trevor Penning, Devin Lloyd, Trump mcduffin. Okay, let's 369 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: say that's assuming that Jermaine Johnson, the pass rusher out 370 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: of Florida, state that he's also gone. Okay, if he's there, 371 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: like you know, again, I think I think that would 372 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: be a great pick. You know, the Ravens needed past rush. 373 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: He was highly productive after after the transfer, really good player. 374 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: A lot of scouts talk really glowingly about his effort. 375 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: Plays like raven fast, all this stuff, plays run really strong, 376 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: all that. I think that would be a great pick. 377 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: But let's just say he's not there also, Okay, So, 378 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: like I said, Davis, Penning, Devin Lloyd, and McDuffie, who 379 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: you're taking him? That's what you're looking at? Eric to Costa, right, 380 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: And let's just say they're making the pick there, you know, sure, 381 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: let's say they're picking a fourteen. I probably and this 382 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: won't surprise you at all. I'd probably go with Trevor Penning. See, 383 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: I like Trevor Penning. I love seeing a guy just 384 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: embarrass his opponents, just bury him. Right. But like the 385 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: debate that you get into now is if they take 386 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: Trevor Penning with the first round pick number fourteen, they're 387 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: their highest first round pick in a long time, right, 388 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: and then Ronnie Stanley is ready to go week one, right, 389 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: which is the hope. Obviously where's he playing? Like, like 390 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: maybe you can kick him in the guard, but like 391 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: you just spent the fourteenth overall pick on a guy 392 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: who's playing out a position and like has I don't 393 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: even has he played any guard? Right? Right? And like 394 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: so if he's doing a position switch, his body isn't 395 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: really like a traditional Ravens guard. Like he's not like 396 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: this thick, broad, necessarily guy right, Like I mean he's big, 397 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: big dude, big human being. I'm sure when I see him, 398 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: if I see him as say, you're a big human 399 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: he is very bad. But he doesn't fit the like 400 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: ko right like this like wide base like the Ravens, 401 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: I feel like like at guard and so like how 402 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: much of an upgrade would he be at left guard? 403 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: Let's say over a Bend Cleveland or or you know whoever, right, 404 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: ben Ben Powers or Tyree Phillips, right, Like, if him 405 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: playing out a position, how much of an upgrade that 406 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: is that? And I don't want my first round if 407 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: that's not that much of an upgrade, Like you're forcing 408 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: him onto the field probably right? If if Stanley is 409 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: going and you have Morgan Moses at right tackle, like, 410 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to be forcing my first round pick 411 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: out of position well or benching him like you certainly 412 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: don't want him on the bench. You gotta put him 413 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, I think a couple of things. 414 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: One is, first of all, we all hope that Ronnie 415 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: Stanley is ready to go full, full speed ahead, right, 416 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: but Da Costa has said on number on multiple occasions 417 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: that there's got to be contingency plants in place. Now, 418 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: that's right, exactly, You're using the fourteenth overall pick on 419 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: a contingency plan. Well, so, so if if the Ravens 420 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: don't draft Penning and Ronnie Stanley is not ready Week one, 421 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: who's playing left tackle, well it would probably be Jown 422 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: James or Morgan Moses right now, or Tyree Phillips or 423 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: Tyree Phillips Okay, so I would rather. I mean, you 424 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: have two veteran tackles, Like they just signed Morega Moses 425 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: to a three year deal. Okay, he's gonna be playing 426 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: tackle for a few years, right, So like that's locked down. 427 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: Now you have Juan James, Like, but you want to 428 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: you need to upgrade the offensive line. I mean, Ronnie 429 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: Stanley isn't ready to go week one. I'm sorry, but 430 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: up the offensive line is just not gonna be upgraded. 431 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: It's just not. Yeah, but it could. It will be 432 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: more upgraded if you have Trevor Penning on it. If yes, 433 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: but like what the the cost sunk there? The sunken 434 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: costs is a lot. If Ronnie is able to go, Yeah, 435 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: but then you just build up this beast of an 436 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: offensive line. If you can kick Penning inside and then 437 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: you have him and Robley's not going anywhere for two 438 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: years at least, that's fine. But I'm saying you got 439 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: and then there's Morga Moses. So like you're gonna put 440 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: Penning it left guard for two years and if you 441 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: have the best offensive line in football, sure, I'll take that. 442 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: I'll take the best offensive line in football. Who's covering 443 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: the wide receivers on the other team, Well, it's not there. 444 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to run that. You're gonna run 445 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: it down team's throats. Just control the game, just like 446 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this whole quarter, for this offense and for 447 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson to be at their best like they were 448 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. They had a dominant offensive line, and 449 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: they all said that improving the offensive line, and part 450 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: of that is getting Ronnie healthy. Part of that is 451 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: adding Morgan Moses. But I still think there's work to 452 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: be done there. You also would, I agree, I just 453 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: would not use a first round pick on it. I 454 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: would not use a first round pick on tackle. So 455 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: you would use the first round pick on a defensive lineman. 456 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I would trade back if I trade it 457 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: back into the mid twenties and could still get Penning, 458 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: which you might be able you might maybe you do. 459 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: I honestly don't hate that, right, Okay, I don't. I 460 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: don't hate that, But like fourteen, it's steep. It is steep, 461 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: and I do think there could be the possibility of 462 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: moving back and still getting him, and but I like, 463 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: so if you're it's not a perfect scenario basically right now, 464 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: like I'm taking Penning, I'm taking Jordan Davis. Okay, So 465 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: for all the reasons that you're criticizing the Penning pick there, 466 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean the knock on. I mean, Jordan Davis is 467 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: a is a dominant player. I mean the guy blew 468 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: up the combine and you're like, this guy is an 469 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: athletic freak. So he is a stud, but he also 470 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: plays you want to talk about position, like he plays 471 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: a position that's not as highly valued. I mean, he 472 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: is an interior defensive lineman who's not like Aaron Donald 473 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: putting up twenty sacks season, right, He's probably getting three right, right, 474 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: So like that's that's a fourteen. I understand that. I 475 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: think I think that Jordan Davis is like such a 476 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: unique player that like whatever whatever he does could be 477 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: at such a special level that it's worth it there, right, 478 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: Like that he just like changes your defense potentially. I mean, 479 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: nobody's running on you. I mean in the AFC North, like, 480 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: they run the ball, right, The Browns run the ball, 481 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals run the ball, Steelers run the ball. Have 482 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: all used high draft picks on running backs. Like. It 483 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: is a physical black and blue division where our opponents 484 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: want to run the ball. You did just add Michael 485 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: Pierce shouldn't equation. I agree, I agree, but you don't 486 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: have You don't know what you're gonna get from Derek 487 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: Wolf if he's gonna play, he's coming off the hip surgery, whatever. 488 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: You don't know. He's a big question mark. Yeah, you 489 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: haven't resigned class Campbell yet. Right, So same ghost for 490 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: Brandon Williams. Exactly, same ghost for Brandon Williams. So you know, 491 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: right now you're looking at Justin Matdibeka and Michael Pierce, 492 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: give me Jordan Davis and that that trio, and you're 493 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: looking pretty set. Yeah, I just spit. That was huge. 494 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're welcome for the shower. I'm gonna 495 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: start wearing a Paco to do the podcast, some big one. 496 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: All right, I don't know who edit that. Wow, I'm 497 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: gonna getta froll think in the mouth thinking about Jordan Davis. 498 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: Literally all right, it's real, du I gotta control I'm 499 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: gonna step back, slide my chair back a little bit here. Um. Yeah, no, 500 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: so I get it. I get it in Davis. Like 501 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: when you see him at the combine, you're like, wow, 502 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: Like this guy is an absolute monster like he would be, 503 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: he would add well, and that's kind of to me. 504 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: Like with the Ravenz right, hey, like we got done 505 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: talking about Daniel Jeremiah. They want big human beings. It 506 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: ain't there ain't anyway bigger than Jordan Davis. Got the biggest. 507 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: I got someone for you, Trevor Penny pretty darn big. 508 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: He's big too, but crazy big, not like Jordan Davis, 509 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: freakish big. Jordan Davis is athleticism in common combined with 510 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: his size. He's like he's a corn with his size 511 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: speed combination. But Penny is massive. He's a big dude. 512 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: He is a very big dude. Um. I just kind 513 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: of feel like I also, I also don't hate the 514 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd pick, especially if the Ravens were to tray 515 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: back get a little value there. I don't hate the 516 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: idea of having he and Queen next to each other 517 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 1: in the middle of the defense as just blowing stuff up. 518 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: Like our guy. Cliffton loves devn Lloyd from the combine. 519 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: That was one of his like big takeaways when I 520 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: talked to him, was like, this kid just has a 521 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: great head on his shoulders. Like the leadership the football intelligence. 522 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, he just seems like a really solid kid 523 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: and solid player, like big bodied, He's made for today's 524 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: NFL thumper. Like I think he would pair really well 525 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: with Patrick Queen. Yeah, and you know, based on all reports, 526 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens were very much in on Bobby Wagner exactly. So, 527 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: like they're willing to spend some capital, whether it be 528 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: free agency dollars or draft capital in my opinion, you know, 529 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: to address the position. Yeah, the other guy that I 530 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: just want to throw out, I don't. I would be 531 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: surprised if he makes it to fourteen. But if all 532 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, these these corners, you know, 533 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: if Stanley is not there, it's the other guys were 534 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: then fallowing man, could Charles Cross right from this side safe, 535 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, like Charles Cross at fourteen. I actually would 536 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: put him ahead of Penning. I mean I think that 537 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: he's like it's just too good to give up, to 538 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: pass up. Yeah, I think that he's great. The other 539 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: one I just would throw out there. And this was 540 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: actually a question a mailbag this week, But Penning feels 541 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: like if you're gonna have to kick somebody in the guard, 542 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: it almost feels like Penning the mall or would be 543 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: a better fit than Charles Cross, who's like the technically sound, 544 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: excellent pass blocker, pass protective you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, 545 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: like not known for his run blocking prowess. How do 546 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: you feel about kicking that to guard? Yeah, yeah, that's fair, 547 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: that's fair. Um. The other one, you know, the question 548 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: of could there be a surprise anyway? Is Kyle Hamilton, 549 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: the safety from Notre Dame, you know, like so he 550 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: was another one or a lot of top five projections 551 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, but but a position that is undervalued 552 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: and comparison, safety is not up there with offensive tackle 553 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: and cornerback, wide receiver. So is there a way that 554 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton ends up being there at fourteen? That to 555 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: me is but for sure, That to me is the 556 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: Derwin James scenario, like from from back in twenty eighteen, 557 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: and like the Ravens passed on Derwin James, they traded 558 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: back and ended up taking Herston. Obviously, then the maar, 559 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: But would would Kyle Hamilton be so good that you say, look, 560 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: I don't know where exactly, Like this is what's what 561 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: help our secondary as a whole, right, And you say, okay, 562 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: we can play Brandon Stevens as more of a nickel 563 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: role along with Marlon and Marcus. And you can put 564 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton out there on the field in some capacity, right, 565 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: kick chuck in some other kind of hybrid role, right, 566 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: something like that. I mean, I think we know where 567 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams is going to be lining up, right, And 568 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton seems like a Marcus Williams type player, right, 569 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of like that rate ball hucking. 570 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: He can also play. He's he's bigger, he can get 571 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: down to the box, yeah, you know, and be a 572 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: strong safety type. Yes, So I don't know. That to 573 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: me is just like if he's the air at fourteen, again, 574 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: like that would kind of fall into the category of like, wow, 575 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: Raves just got a stud defensive player at fourteen, not 576 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: a huge need, and that would be surprising. But again, 577 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: if all these guys should now going into the top ten, 578 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: somebody's not, and so who is the guy that's not 579 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: And then maybe it's Thibadeau, maybe it's Hamilton, right, maybe 580 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: it's Charles Cross, Like who's falling exactly? Yeah, No, I 581 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: think that's very legit. And the other player I had 582 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: on my original list here is Trent McDuffie, the cornerback 583 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: from Washington, and you know, you obviously we know the 584 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: need at cornerback after you get past those top two 585 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: guys of Sauce and Stingley, you know, how do you 586 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: feel about the prospect of drafting Trent McDuffie. Well, McDuffie 587 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: is you know, he was a really good player at Washington. 588 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: I think the question on him he's a smaller guy, right, 589 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, like Sauce. Sauce is the biggest, right, you know, 590 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: he's six foot three, Stingley's six foot one. You know, 591 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: he's in the middle, and then McDuffie is the smallest. 592 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: So that to me is the question, like at fourteen, 593 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: do you take a guy who is somewhat undersized at 594 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: the position? Right? It's not the ravens mL I mean 595 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: you go back to Dwayne Starks. Was the last guy 596 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: really that they took in the first round that was 597 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: a little bit smaller in stature. Not long after they 598 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: took Christma Calliser. I think the next year they took 599 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: Christma Calliser, the like prototype cornerback who was very good. 600 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: I know, there's no way chris Ma Calliser was the 601 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: next year Christma Calliser was two thousand or two thousand, 602 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: I think right the next year. Maybe he wasn't next 603 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: year anyway, Yeah, and then since then, you know, Marlin 604 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: Humphrey obviously, Jimmy Smith obviously, these are like prototype size 605 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: strength press corners, you know. And and so the question 606 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: I think Duffy is like how good is I think 607 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: he's a very strong player, and everybody says he's like 608 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: so clean, great feet, like just checks every box, just 609 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: really really good except for the size box obviously, But 610 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: it does he fit the Ravens style. You know. John 611 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: Harball was pretty clear in what he likes in corners. 612 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: You know. He likes the guy that can come up 613 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: and challenge you and press you and and tackle and 614 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, be that kind of physical corner like Marlin 615 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: Humphrey is. Yeah, right, um, but you know he also 616 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: said you have to give something up sometimes, you know, 617 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: so like if you like this ball hawking guy, guy 618 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: with great ball skills like and Marcus Peters isn't known 619 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: as necessarily like this huge tackling physical force out there, 620 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: but okay, you'll get me a ton of interceptions. I'll 621 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: take that. Yeah, I'll trade that off. You know. So 622 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: the question with McDuffie is are the things that you're 623 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: gaining by drafting him so valuable, so great that you're 624 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: willing to compromise on the size a little bit? For sure. 625 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: All let's take a quick break and we come back. 626 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: We'll answer your questions. All right, Ravens fans, A sports 627 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: landscape is always changing, and this week is no different. 628 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: Draft Kings is the leader in daily fantasy sports, and 629 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: there's still daily fantasy contest running for those who are 630 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: looking to have some skin in the game. So what 631 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: you can do each player has a salary associated with drafting. 632 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: Man assemble a lineup of players and then you work 633 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: to stay under the salary cap and you sit back 634 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: and you watch a points pile up. So what you 635 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: need to do is you get on Draft Games, download 636 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: the app today, sign up using the code flock. New 637 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: users will get a free entry with their first deposit. Again, 638 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: the code on that is flock, and you can sign 639 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: up today at draft Kings dot com. All right, so 640 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: let's read an email. As always, you can reach us 641 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. This 642 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: one comes from Thomas O says, greetings from sunny California 643 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: as a longtime listener. I want you guys to know 644 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: that you two are dynamic duos. Wow, thank you, Thomas. Yeah, 645 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Uh says he enjoys listening to Lounge 646 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: and I'm rooting for more good stuff to come. Said, So, 647 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: I know that the draft is nearing, and I want 648 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: to give you my big take on who the Ravens 649 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: will pick in the first two rounds. Here we go, 650 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna get that. We're gonna get the answer. Right, 651 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: You got your pen ready because I know you're a copycat. 652 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 1: I know you're always looking over my shoulder this time 653 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: of year, I'm looking over Thomas's shoulder now, he says. 654 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: I like the value of mcduffee. All right, fourteenth and 655 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: he would feel, he says, he would feel a hole 656 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: that was left by Tavon Young's departure, Marlow, MP Chuck, 657 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams and mcduffee. That just might make Mike McDonald 658 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: pick up e DC and spin them. Uh, he says. 659 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: Also it b eb Kete, Yeah, Bikte, I think it's Ebbie. 660 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: Uh is explosive and plays like a Raven. So he's 661 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: a pass rusher out of Penn State yep, kind of 662 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: took over for adafe Yeah. Uh and had a breakouts 663 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: final season there. He's also a silver spring guy from 664 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: my next would down Montgomery County. Yes, um, so what 665 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: do you think of those two picks? I actually like that. 666 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: I said to you today actually in the cafeteria, has said, Uhikite, 667 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: I thought he might be the second round pick, you know, 668 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: I said, I might be barking him down as my 669 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: second round pick. He did take over for dafe um 670 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: and he was a good player there, and then we 671 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: just spent time talking about mcduffy. So that would that 672 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: that to those two picks give you your need and 673 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: good players? Yeah, like they say, okay, you get a 674 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: pass rusher and a corner, which might be the two 675 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: biggest needs in the draft that the team has. That 676 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: would be a pretty good way to start things off. Yeah, 677 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: their doubt, their doubt. I mean I think that, Uh 678 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 1: what the thing, you know, fill a hole up by 679 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: Tavon Young's departure. Like, let's not forget the Tavon Young 680 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick, right, So like I want 681 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: to find a slot corner two, but I want if 682 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm drafting somebody at fourteen, he'd better be able to 683 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: bounce outside too. He better be like they better be 684 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: able to play both ways, because I'm not drafting a 685 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: slot corner necessarily at fourteen. You might play slot as 686 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: a rookie, yeah, or might bounce Marlin into the slot 687 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, but this guy better be like capable, 688 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, if he has to take over down the 689 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: line for Marcus Peters or whatever, like, he better be 690 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: capable of that. Sure. And I do think that I, 691 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: you know, going back to the fourth round thing, the 692 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: Ravens have sound found some pretty good corners in that 693 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: fourth round. You mentioned Tavon Young, Anthony Anthony Aver also 694 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: both fourth round picks, So I think that they could. 695 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: I think that they've got a great track record of 696 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: drafting an assessant cornerback, and I think that they'll be 697 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: able to find some some value there. Yep, We'll appreciate 698 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: the email, Thomas um As always. Like I said, you 699 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: can reach it said the lounge at Ravens NFL dot 700 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: net you to hear your other draft opinions. That's the 701 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: other fun thing that I like to see on Twitter 702 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: is when people send their mock drafts yes, I get 703 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: a lot of that. And then I saw I like that. 704 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: They also sent him the Lacey to Costa. Yeah, you 705 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: know she's gonna print them out and give him to Eric, 706 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: you know, put it on his pillow at night. Yeah, 707 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: here you go, Eric, there's the fresh batch. Here's a dozen. 708 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that one. Thank you so much. 709 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: I appreciate exactly exactly. But uh, all right, so one 710 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: of the things, what's the other email? Well, yeah, we'll 711 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: get to that. Okay, we'll get to that one. Um. 712 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: One other thing I want to talk about before we 713 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: get to that was pass rusher and and that was 714 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: another position talked about it during the pre draft press conference, 715 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: where you know, people say that this is the best 716 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 1: pass rusher edge class. Uh, you know, that's the strongest 717 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: position in this year's draft, right. I kind of get 718 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: the feeling. Now, maybe Jermaine Johnson's the pick in the 719 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: first round. You know, I don't really know another pass 720 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: rusher that is projected to be right around that. Well, 721 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: while someone who might have been was David Jabo out 722 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: of Michigan exactly who towards achilias the Costa said, you know, 723 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: that was bad for him. And bad for the Ravens 724 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: might have been a pick exactly. So if Tibodeau or 725 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: a trade back posts. If Thibodeau isn't let's say he 726 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: goes number three or whatever, Like who's the other pass rusher, right, yeah, right, 727 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: I think it's Jermaine Johnson. Yeah, and so you know 728 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: if he doesn't get there, Like to me, I think 729 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: second or third round pass rusher. I mean, if we're 730 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: talking like the death year, like you know, Daniel Jeremiah 731 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: think tweeted something he likes twenty of these these pass 732 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: rushers like loves them. Yeah, you know, to me, it's 733 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: like right for a third round pick and maybe you 734 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: go fourth round pick two whatever, you know what I mean. Well, 735 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: and the other thing a pass rusher like George Jess 736 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: has kind of compared it to the wide receivers. You know, 737 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: there's all these wide receivers because such a passing game 738 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: of college and you can get these wide receivers in 739 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: the third round or the later round, second round who 740 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: end up being really good players, says the team that 741 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: drafted one in twenty first round in twenty nineteen. In 742 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: the game last year. Yeah, but the draft drafton Duverna 743 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: in the third they take, and I think that like 744 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: that just becomes a deep class. A wide receiver, I 745 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: think too, is even like, you know, even going back 746 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: to that nineteen class, you know, there was really good 747 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: players all the way through the third round at the 748 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver position. Yep. So I just think that the 749 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: same thing is kind of happening at pass rusher in 750 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: the Raven's mind, and this could be a year where 751 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: you get one, you know, in the third yep. I agree. 752 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: I think that it's going to be cornerback and pass 753 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: rusher are going to be taken in the first three 754 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: rounds for the Ravens. The question is what's that other position? 755 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: Is an offensive line is it a defensive lineman, you know, 756 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: is it something an inside linebacker? Some but I think 757 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: I would be surprised with the Ravens, out of their 758 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: first three picks didn't come away with a cornerback and 759 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: a pass rusher. All right. I think that you I 760 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: would probably agree with it. I would probably agree with it, 761 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: all right. Last email here comes from Allegra Kalen like 762 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: this that reminds me to take my allergy medicine. Appreciate that. 763 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: Um all right, says frequent listener and returning emailer in Arizona, 764 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: Mink mentioned quote, what if Lamar starts his own company? 765 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: She says, he has Era apparel, he has a fragrance, 766 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: and just published a children's book. Yeah, come on, he's 767 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: already got his own company. It's a great reminder. It's 768 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: a great reminder. I appreciate that, Allegro. I You're absolutely right. 769 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: That's kind of to my point is like maybe he's 770 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: like just has plans to turn Era eight Apparel into 771 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: the next Nike, you know what I mean? Like that 772 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: was kind of what I was getting at, is like 773 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: he could whatever have like a big sponsorship deal with 774 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: one of these big companies, but he's saying, no, I've 775 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my own thing. And that's what I 776 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: think is so unique. Yeah, it is. He's got all 777 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: these different things too. That got the cologne. Yeah, did 778 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: you ever have when you were a kid the Michael 779 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: Jordan cologne? You remember that, I've never worn cologne a 780 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: day in my life. When I was like in I'm lucky. 781 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: If I were a deodor you should maybe try we 782 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: should get that part of your routine. But you know, 783 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: like I remember what I said in like elementary school, 784 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: middle school, there's like it is Michael Jordan cologne. It 785 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: was cool. I did get some Michael Jordan cologne and 786 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: it was like, this is awesome. Out of that. I 787 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: don't yes, of course, lots of dates when I was 788 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: in third grade and I was very sad middle school. 789 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't remember exactly when it was middle school or 790 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: elementary scho I mean Michael Jordan. It was probably like 791 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: probably elementary school anyway, but like the Michael Jordan cologne 792 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: and elementary school Michael Michael Jordan cologne was so cool. 793 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean that was that was peak coolness. I could jump, 794 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: you could dunk after you had the Michael Jordan cologne. 795 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about that. Look it up, all right, 796 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: I bet it was really cool. I bet it's. Yes, 797 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: that's correct, that's what I'm alluding to. I For me, 798 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: the cool thing was starter jackets. Well of the big 799 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: one with the big pouch in the front of course, 800 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: put all your snacks in there. Yea great? Yeah, yeah, 801 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: I had five of them. That's great. None of None 802 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: of my startery jackets were of teams I actually supported. 803 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: They were all knockoffs that my dad got second hand. 804 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: I swear I never got a Baltimore starter jacket. I 805 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: still I hold a grudge. We got you. Gotta talk 806 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: about this on the pot. Dad never Kansas City Royal 807 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: starter jacket. I didn't have a Ravens one. I had 808 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: a Colorado Rockets starter jacket. I didn't care about the 809 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: Rockies kidney anyway. Such a hard childhood. Yeah, thank you 810 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: for listening. We are as we talked about trying to 811 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: get Daniel Jeremiah on the lounge, trying to get melkype 812 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: R on the lounge. We're gonna have Joe Ortis on 813 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: the lounge. So we got some all star guests coming up. 814 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening and stick with us.