1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: All right. Coming up, we'll talk to John Langston, new 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: artist on Luke Bryant's label who has a song on 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: the top forty right now. So we'll talk to him, 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: kind of get to know him. Until this podcast. I've 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: never met him before, um, but some of my people 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: that I'm super close to love him, so we'll talk 7 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: to him. Also, Eddie and I will get together and 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: talk about bands, very famous bands that are members that 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: hate each other and how they either kept going or didn't. 10 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: But we'll do that too. I mentioned the A c 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: m S because they were just announced. There are two 12 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: major country organizations. The A c m S that award 13 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: happens in April May always, I think April this year, 14 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: and the c m AS that one happens in November. 15 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Um A c MS in Las Vegas, a c m's 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: main offices in California. It was kind of started as 17 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: a West coast country establishment. Really big deal, but the 18 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: offices in California. The awards show is in Las Vegas. 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: C m AS Nashville, And you know, the c m 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: A is a bigger organization because of you know, they 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: have CMAM Music Fest, they have the CMA Awards. The 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: c M A is here in Nashville, it's closer. Both 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: are massive. I would say the A c M is 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: a little more progressive and new like newer and a 25 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: little more realistic with what people really like. But the 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: CMAS are a bit more prestigious, and you can sometimes 27 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: want to c M A a year after you blew up. 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: But I would say the CMAS have a little bit 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: more mm in the show and the award. Both have 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: their strengths, for sure, but people, I say, what's the difference. 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: Just that's the two biggest bodies and country music. The 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: A c M s and c m as bought their 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: massive awards, just a bit different ones, a little more progressive. Um, 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: it can take a little more chances, which is really cool, 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: a little younger, and then one the CMA is a 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: little more prestigious, a little a little, a little more 37 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: in it. I've made two sound effects and like four sentences. 38 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: The A c M s are now, though the award 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: show will be in Las Vegas. I wanted to read 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: some of the awards. The big one is always Entertainer 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: of the Year. You have Luke Brian, Eric Church, Luke Combs, 42 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: Thomas Rhett and Carrie Underwood, which is interesting because this 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: is the first time Luke Combs has ever been up 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: for an Entertainer of the Year and he could actually 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: win it. He could win it. My my prediction was 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: that he would be up for this c M A 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: but but you know, A c ms are a little 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: more progressive, so they were the first to put Luke in. Um, 49 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: so congrats to those guys. At this point, I don't 50 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: want to guess. Okay, not because I'm scared to guess. 51 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't hear me to guests. I would 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: like you to guess. All right, M Entertainer of the Year? 53 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: Do you want me to do? Who I would vote for, 54 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: but who I think will win? Yeah, I think that's 55 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: a good way because who I think will win wouldn't 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: always be I vote for Luke Brian because of the 57 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: massive shows, the Farm Tour, which we'll talk about with John, 58 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: which he just sets up a stage and then thousands 59 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: people come. American idol like, Entertainer of the Year means 60 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: more to me than just putting out hits because what 61 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: Luke's done. I would vote. I would vote Luke Brian, 62 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: and one of the Lukes will win it. Yeah, I 63 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: think so and I'm coughing out there, but I think 64 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: Luke Holmes could win it. Luke Bryant could win it. 65 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: So I would vote Luke Bryan, who I think will 66 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: win will be one of the Lukes Male Artists of 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: the Year. Luke Hombs wins this walking Away because it's 68 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: Dirk's Luke Combs, Thomas Rhet, Chris sta Bolton, Keith Urban 69 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: all Worthy. Dirk's does not get the appreciation that he deserves. 70 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: Thomas Rhett is oddly so successful, and they're they're like 71 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: three artists that don't get the real credit and they're 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: not asking for the credit. But there are three artists 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: that don't really get the notoriety because of the time 74 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: and environment they came up in. I think one of 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: them is Thomas Rhett. One of them is Dan and 76 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: Shay because they've kind of been overshadowed by Luke Holmes 77 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: and Kane Brown even though they're breaking all these barriers. 78 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: I think there there pop sensibility to hurting them a 79 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: little bit in the hardcore voters of country. But I 80 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: think Thomas Rhett, Dan and Shay and the other one 81 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: who kind of gets looked at weirdly and who shouldn't 82 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: it is Kelsey Ballerini interesting because Marin kind of showed 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: up and seemed a little more traditional. And to look again, 84 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: they're their own artists. Everybody's different and an art it's 85 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: hard to quantify. You can look at data, but I 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: think that Kelsey and the feeling of voters kind of 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: got jumped by Maren. So she's not looked at in 88 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: the way that I would feel she's deserving to be 89 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: looked at. So because I think Kelsey has far more 90 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: number ones than Marin does, but Kelsey does. All three 91 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: of them kind of have a pop lean to them, 92 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: So it's not cool to vote for the pop lean, 93 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: except when you look back in history and Johnny Cash 94 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: also the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and was 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: all over but you get it. Um. I think Luke 96 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Holmbs wins that though my prediction to about Luke Combs 97 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: is this year, maybe next year he has all that 98 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: crosses over into pop as well, just because he's gonna 99 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: be so big that it's just naturally gonna roll over 100 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: into it more so than they're gonna chase it. I 101 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: saw a couple of NBA players on a boat singing 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: Luke Holmbs on TikTok. I see him a lot on 103 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: tick lukems Um, Female Artist of the Year Kelsey, Miranda, Maron, 104 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: Casey and Carry tough. One to pick Carries out for 105 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: Entertainer of the Year, be weird if she didn't win 106 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: Female of the Year. I'm gonna go with Carrie. I 107 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: think I picked Carrie m I picked Carrie and Carrie 108 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: wins both double Yeah, Duo with the Year, Brooks and 109 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: Dunne Brothers, Osborne, Dan and Shay, Florida, Georgia, Line, Maddie 110 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: and Tay. I picked Dan and Shay, Dan and Sha win. 111 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: Not even close walking away. Dan. She win twice. She 112 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: needs to get too awards. Uh. They just are breaking 113 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: every record. Um, I'll say this to f gl's kind 114 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: of being. They haven't had a ton of success. Their 115 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: last record, their last record and sell that well in comparison, 116 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: but there was massive. They don't get the credit that 117 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: I feel they deserve because they don't fit that exact 118 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: mold of what people feel like a country artist should be. 119 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: They have a song now with a pop girl who 120 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: I heard on a pop station the other day. I 121 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. It feels like the b 122 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: REXI song again. But hey man, whatever works, and they 123 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: did justin Bieber. Yummy. I don't know that I love that, 124 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: but I like to say try stuff. I like that 125 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: they're out just doing their own thing. Um so, but 126 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: Dan and Jay win this award. Group of the Year Lady, 127 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: a little big town Midland, Old Dominion, the High Women. 128 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: Old Dominion wins that one, no problem, they should, they will. 129 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: That's a that's just that's just a one person race 130 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: because you have Old Dominion, who's that top tier from 131 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: last year, follow up closely in the second tiers Lady 132 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: and a little big town around the same and then 133 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 1: they kind of that third tiers Midland and High Women, 134 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: and that that voting. So I think Old Dominion wins 135 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: that that pretty easily. New Male Artist of the Year 136 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, Russell Dickerson, Riley Green, Cody Johnson, and Morgan Wallen. 137 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: Morgan Wallan wins, he wins, and I think you should win. 138 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: New Female Artists of the Year Ingered Andress, Gabby Barrett, 139 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Lindsay l Kaylee Hammock, Tenniel Towns. It's interesting, you know, 140 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: I think with the discrepancy ease in hearing people's philosophies 141 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: about women on the radio and what they do versus 142 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: what they say they do. A lot of stuff happened 143 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: in there. There weren't there wasn't that the success on 144 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: radio with these five female artists there were with the 145 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: dude artists. A little harder to cap this one. Gabby 146 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Barrett so new, Lindsay did have a number one with 147 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: Brantley has a new song, um Kaylee hit the twenties, 148 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: I think before song fell out to you. That's a 149 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: tough one. I think that probably And again the record 150 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: label voting, the block voting is gonna get this one 151 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: is what's gonna affect this one. I think the person 152 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: with the highest song is Ingrid, except for Lindsay's do 153 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: It with Brantley, but that wasn't her song. It was 154 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: Brantley song that she was on. I think that Ingrid 155 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: wins this one. She's so new, though, I think Ingrid. 156 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: I'd probably give it to Lindsay, but I think Ingrid 157 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: wins it. Also, I'm a bit biased because I know 158 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Lindsay super well, obviously, but I'd be cool Lindsey one 159 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: that that that's a tough one. That's a tough one. 160 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: That's a tough one to pick. Um. I think that's 161 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: all I'm gonna do as far as the awards, right, 162 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to do the Song of the Year 163 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: ten tho hours Dan and Shaint Bieber. I don't think 164 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: it wins because Bieber's on it. I think that keeps 165 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: some people from voting for it, even though it broke 166 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: every record. But to be fair, you have a bunch 167 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: of Biber people streaming the song too, not just Dan 168 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: and Shay fans, which does taint the numbers a bit. 169 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: It's been the number one song Country Billboard for like 170 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: ten million weeks. That's because mostly or somewhat the Justin 171 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: Bieber people tracking that, and it got to go to 172 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: pop because Bieber was on it earlier. Uh. You have 173 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: Gar going nowhere, Ashton McBride, God's Country, Blake Shelton, One 174 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: Man Band, Old Dominion some of it, Eric Church. What 175 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: Church gets the cool vote? Um, I'm gonna go Old Dominion, 176 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: One Man Band wins and they should win. There you 177 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: go at the end. Songwriter of the Year. I'm gonna 178 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: read these. Ashley Gorley, we have a podcast with him. 179 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Check that out. Shane mcinally, we have a podcast with him. 180 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: On this Bobbycast. Check that out. Josh Osborne, we have 181 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: one with him. So three of the five we have 182 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: we have podcasts with you can hear about great songwriters. 183 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: Hardy and Hillary Lindsay we do not. They're the other 184 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: two out for it. So congrats to everybody. For get 185 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: the nomination. It's a cool thing and you get to 186 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: go on Instagram be like how was nominated, and that's 187 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: really cool. Sometimes it's more about just getting the nomination 188 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: to be able to talk about it for three months 189 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: more so than the actual award, because two days after 190 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: the award, nobody cares. Then we've moved on to the 191 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: c m A or the CMT or the BBL or 192 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: the guy come from. So listen. It's really cool for everybody. 193 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: The goal is make music and be able to live 194 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: your life doing something you love. The goal is just 195 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: that anyway, for anyone doing their job period, like, find 196 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: a job you'd like, be able to do it and 197 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: love it, and be able to pay the bill. So 198 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: congratulations to everybody. Super cool. Um, all right, I think 199 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into this show now. Thank you guys 200 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: for checking out the podcast and share it with your 201 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: friends who love music. You know, we um we do 202 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: this show at least once a week. We try to 203 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: mix it up. It is mostly music based. You can 204 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: check out Amy's podcast Four Things with Amy Brown, Faith, Health, Lifestyle. 205 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: It's super cool. Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson. Now me, 206 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm not super into the like she has a chakra 207 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: guy on, like the chakras. I know some people that 208 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: are into that stuff, like yoga, parts of the body 209 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: that react the spiritual part. That's not my jam, but 210 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: some people love it. If that's your jam, because she's 211 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: very into that. Check that out. It's called The Velvet's 212 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Edge with Kelly Henderson. The Velvet's Edge. And then Caroline 213 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: Hobby just did a live podcast and you know, she 214 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: talks to a lot of really strong women and does 215 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the wives and even girlfriends of country stars, 216 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: and she did a lot of podcast with Kane Brown's 217 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: wife and Jason Aldan's wife, Brittany Aldan and Caitlin Brown. 218 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: Check that out too. I don't know if it's up yet, 219 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: but it'll be up soon. It's a Caroline Hobby Get 220 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: Real with Caroline Hoy. Thank you, UM, that's the deal. 221 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Enjoyed the podcast. Give us good reviews. 222 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: If you don't mind it moves us on up. We 223 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Tell your friends goodbye, everybody, Welcome to episode 224 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: to nine with John Langston, who I'll tell you how 225 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: you kind of popped up into my world is I was, 226 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: by the way, hello, we were just talking beforehand. I 227 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: just forget I need to reintroduce everybody on this. Um. 228 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: This was when iTunes was still a big thing. That's 229 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: even a year and a half. It's I mean, now, 230 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: there's every service has their own strength. But you would 231 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: put out a song a year, year and a half 232 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: or so ago, and I didn't know who you were 233 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: at the time, and I was like, first of all, 234 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: I went to Number one Country, which I was watching 235 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: because I like to watch and see not just what 236 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: people are playing on the radio, because I kind of 237 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: consider myself one foot in radio one foot out, because 238 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: I can bring things from outer radio and put it 239 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: on radio. And I saw your number one on the 240 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: country chart, and I was like, all right, I'm not 241 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: sure this guy is. But then it went number one 242 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: on the freaking pop chart, and I was like, all 243 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: I should know who this guy is. And that's how 244 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: it was introduced to you. So but I haven't met 245 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: you until today, so it's nice to me. So let's 246 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: talk about that for a second. What what what song 247 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: was that when it comes to loving you? Okay, this 248 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: song comes out, so explain to me as someone who 249 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: at the time wasn't keen on John Langston. How does 250 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: this song blow up like it did? What do you 251 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: credit that too? Man? I think it was over the years, 252 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, just hitting the road hard and just creating 253 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: a really you know, a fan base from my college 254 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: days and stuff, people coming out these small bars and 255 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: stuff and spreading the word in that way. And I've 256 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: been sticking with me since those years. And uh my 257 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: team did an incredible job getting the getting the word 258 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: out that weekend release. I think we hit our emails 259 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: and and every single social media. I think we sent 260 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: out thousands and thousands of d ms just like hey 261 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: the songs here, go get it, you know, go buy 262 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: it whatever, and uh man, it was just it was crazy. 263 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: It was I mean, I remember just waking up and 264 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: seeing it hit that it hit number one on all genre, 265 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: and I was just like, is this real? Like this 266 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: is crazy? Did you have it crazy? Because I'll just 267 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: use political polls. An example, sometimes under these polls don't 268 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 1: go what we expect this person to win, and or 269 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: a movie number before a weekend, we expect this movie 270 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: to do this. Well, did you have any idea when 271 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: that song would come out that it would actually do that. 272 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: I honestly did not think it would do anything like that. 273 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: Like it was. I was so dumbfound is so surprised, 274 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: So just like this is crazy, like I was just 275 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to react at the time. But 276 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: I knew the song was special. I knew it was 277 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: something very different from what I was doing. It was 278 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: very different songwriting wise, and the sound was different, and 279 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, it was very bluesy and very just a 280 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: different take and who I am as an artist, and 281 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: it was just it was a big reach, you know, 282 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: to get out there and put this song out. And 283 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna cause some kind of you know, 284 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: people go oh man, what is this? I like this 285 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: song or whatever, But I didn't know it was gonna 286 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: create that much of a splash. It's such a splash 287 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: that again people were hitting me up, going, hey, you 288 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: know much about John Linkston because again, it just kind 289 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: of ripped through everything which is and I think giving 290 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: your team credits cool, But you can have the greatest 291 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: team in the world if you don't have the people 292 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: don't have anything, right, Like, it seems like you have 293 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: a very dedicated bas and I kind of want to 294 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: walk back from that because your story is you have 295 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: been rinding it so hard on the road and being 296 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: the guy who built fans by really one small club 297 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: and bar ad time. Yeah you So let's go back 298 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: to college. We went to school where Gardner Webb University. 299 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: It's a little small, little D one double a school 300 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Did you go to school and plan 301 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: to do music the whole time or were you Were 302 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: you playing ball? I was playing ball. I went up 303 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: there on a scholarship to play football, and I got hurt. 304 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: You know, I had too many concussions and uh uh, 305 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: they said I couldn't fight anymore. So you have too 306 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: many concussions. Yeah, had six of them. What position do 307 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: you play? Fullback? In linebacker? Oh, that's a that's a 308 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: spot to get the concussion. It was. It was rough, 309 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: and my last concussion, it was the scariest day of 310 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: my life. Like I literally went blind for like twenty 311 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: minutes and you remember it like I I remember getting 312 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: hit and like pice. It was like coming off my 313 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: fifth one and did all the protocols. You know, it's 314 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: like two months since I practiced, and it was the 315 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: middle of the season. I was ready to get back 316 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: out there and trying to finish out this junior year. 317 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: And uh, first drill back, first one inside drill, just bad. 318 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: I was all excited. So I was the first one 319 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: up to go and then bam. I just felt on 320 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: my knees. I could feel my eyes were open. I 321 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: couldn't but you could feel your eyes were open, but 322 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: I could just you know, when like you close your 323 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: eyes and you can see like shapes and stuff. That's 324 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: what it felt like. That's what I all I could. 325 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: That's all I could see. And I was just screaming 326 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: and just like crying because I thought I just hit 327 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: myself blind forever And you remember this vividly. Oh yeah, 328 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't because I've been had my concussion before that. 329 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: I was like knocked out and like I like came 330 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: to and like was calling the quarterback a different name 331 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: and he's like, my name is Chandler. I was like, 332 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: oh it was this it's a scary thing, man, like 333 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: those concussions, those head head trauma injuries or nothing. Played 334 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: around with six of them. Why after like three, John, 335 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: do you go back? Because I'm gonna tell you're you're right, 336 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm going to give you a 337 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: real weenie story about me. So I played high school 338 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: football only and and I took a knee, and I 339 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: played wide receiver a little bit of slot, but even 340 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: the slot was too inside for me. I was like, 341 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be I'm not trying to go 342 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: across the middle. I'm not trying to do anything, just 343 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: down the on the edges because I don't want to 344 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: get hit. I hate to get a hit. I had 345 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: no interest. I would only play defense when it was 346 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: nickel or dime package only, and I played in the 347 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: very bag. I was the safety safety, no interest and 348 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: get it. Hit didn't like it, and so I just 349 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: no no interest whatsoever. I had decent hands and adequate speed, 350 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: so I could catch the but I didn't want to 351 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: play on the inside. So I plan on the outside. 352 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: And I um coaches like, all right, since you can catch, 353 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna return points. Because our punt returning went down 354 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: and at the time, it was just catch the point 355 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: and get a few yards and that's it. Just just 356 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: just don't bobble the point. Just don't lose the point. 357 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: So that's all right. So balls up in the air, 358 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, only corrapt here it comes and and 359 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of time do you return to point. 360 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: There's a lot of time to think. There's a lot 361 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: of time to think, yeah, people are just you can't 362 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: really look at the people, but you can feel them coming. 363 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: So the balls up in there and I'm like, oh 364 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: how about this? Oh my god. And so I go 365 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: put my hands out and I remember the ball bounced 366 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: off my hands, just like it's not supposed to under 367 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: the ground. So I'm like, all right, well i gotta 368 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: jump on it now. And I jump into the pile 369 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: and I take a knee to the head, only just 370 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: a knee of the head. And I remember getting up 371 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: and seeing the yard marker turn it from one to three, 372 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: and I went right then I went, I'm not doing 373 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: this again, like I want to keep playing ball. But 374 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: there's I'm not getting my head. No, I get it. 375 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: That wasn't even concussion. That's probably just getting hit after 376 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: like your second or third one, like like what are 377 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: your folks saying? I mean, I mean it was it 378 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: wasn't all in like a year, you know, so that 379 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: it was like I had one in eighth grade, one 380 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: in like tenth grade and won my senior year, and 381 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: then it was like, you know, three in college. So 382 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: it was like a total of six and banner of 383 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: like ten years. And did you have a you have 384 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: a football scholar show. I can understand a little bit too, 385 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: because again scary because you want to finish out school 386 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: and you want to do all that so and you 387 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: want to have school paid for. Like I grew up broke. 388 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: If someone was like, take a few concussions and you'd 389 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: be a good football player, I'd probably done it. So 390 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: I retracted about thirty percent of I hate towards keep 391 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: playing with concussions, but not all of it. But yeah, 392 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: that's your sixth one. You open your eyes, you can't see. 393 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: You thought maybe you were blind? I thought I was 394 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: at that time. I was scary, and so what do 395 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: they what do they take you? So I wonder the er, like, 396 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, I finally came back like twenty minutes later. 397 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: Is it a slow comeback or yeah? It was like, really, 398 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 1: it was like really slow and I just gradually, you know, 399 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: I felt like it was like came out of like 400 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, the pool or something waters in my eye, 401 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: Like that's how it felt, and slowly came back and 402 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, but I knew right then. 403 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I looked at Kevin. My trainer said, 404 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm done. That's You're like, it's only been six I 405 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: think wish would be we should be conservative and colity 406 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: here before. So we had a meeting with the doctors, 407 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: my coaches, and trainer, and we all were like, yeah, 408 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: this is it. So were you playing music at the time, 409 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: even somewhat? I mean, I've always loved, you know, just 410 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: getting out my guitar, playing the two three chords that 411 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: I knew and like the one song that I knew 412 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: and I had like guitar lessons when I was like 413 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: eight grade. But it wasn't nothing you want playing bars. 414 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: He wasn't playing bars. I wasn't like writing songs yet. 415 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: So so then what do you do, because you go, 416 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: all right, if football is not my thing, because you're 417 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: a guy that needs a thing. Yeah, if football is 418 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: not your thing, how do you decide it's music and 419 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: not like archery or like really, how do you decide that? 420 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: Always was a fan of songwriting really and like Red 421 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: Akins was a huge like like I loved his songs 422 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: and you know followed him for years and what he 423 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: was doing and and so excuse me, and uh man, 424 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: I just you know, I needed, like you said, I 425 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: need a new passion like and and I played every 426 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: year football since I was six years old. I needed 427 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: something else to go chase a new a new dream, 428 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: a new goal to chase a because that's what my 429 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: whole life has been, just chasing goals that I've set 430 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: out and um, and when I started writing songs, it 431 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: felt that void of you know, chasing a new dream, 432 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: chasing a new goal. And when I was, you know, 433 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: trying to learn how to play songs and trying to 434 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: learn how to do covers and posting them on the internet, 435 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: and it was just for fun. It was just something 436 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: to get me through that tough time where I didn't 437 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: know what I was gonna do in my life. So 438 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: that's how it started. Then for you is that your 439 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: home or in the dorm or wherever you are, and 440 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: you just put them on the internet. Yeah, and so 441 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: Were you getting positive feedback from this? Yeah, it was. 442 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: It was getting like, hey, but that's pretty good. I 443 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: like that song and a song called Forever Girl that 444 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: I posted. This is John Langston Forever Girl from two 445 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen. Look how good we are these notes? Man? 446 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: This was thirteen. Was it? Look how bad we are 447 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: with these notes? No? It's good. No, we know. Two 448 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen, I re released it as a steak. 449 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: Here's forever Girl girl. So you put this up on YouTube? 450 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 1: So I put it up as a just acoustic, just 451 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: me and a guitar in my room and uh. I 452 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: hit up my buddy Josh Manuel, who's uh had a 453 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: basement studio in Atlanta and he was like doing like 454 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: demo sessions and stuff. I was like, hey, man, I 455 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: got a song I want to come record. It's like sure, 456 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: So over Christmas break went there recorded the song. I 457 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: literally had to google how to put a song up 458 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: on iTunes and stuff, and you know, that's how it happened. 459 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: And I just put it up, put it on YouTube, 460 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: and they started creating a buzz in the Southeast and 461 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: Georgia and like the you know where I would go. 462 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: And then I started playing gigs, and what does that mean? 463 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: Created a buzz? I think if for everybody it's a 464 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: different definition. So what does it mean for you? You 465 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: post a show on YouTube? Does it just organically get 466 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: I just remember it's seeing getting shared all over Facebook. 467 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: So the sharing was was what was happening on Facebook? 468 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. So you upload the video of you 469 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: in the studio or playing in your room with no 470 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: sort of microphone. They're trying to picture this, so you're 471 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: just in your room playing it into the computer, computer 472 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: recording you. So it's getting shared all over and you go, 473 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: maybe something to this, Maybe I should go out. And 474 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: then my buddy who I wanted to UM high school. 475 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: He was a friend with a bartender and Athens Georgia 476 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: bar Kaaljenko. He said, hey, you know they want you 477 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: to come play like twenty minutes before this other acoustic set. 478 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: I said, I never played before, So sure and played 479 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: that and fifteen and my buddies showed up. We had 480 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: a blast, and you know, we got a free bar tab. 481 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: It was cool. It's fun. That was your pay for 482 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: your person free bar tab. Yeah, it was awesome, And 483 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: I just remember my parents were there, like everyone like 484 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: my uncle was there. You know. It was cool. It 485 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: was just like people were singing the song, you know. 486 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: But it wasn't until about a month later after I 487 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: released a song on iTunes that Uh, I get a 488 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: call from my buddy at Kennesaw State and he's like, hey, man, 489 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: we got a frat party. Uh, Chase Rice is playing. 490 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: We want you to open full band. Here's your time. 491 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: We can't pay you nothing, but we got plenty of 492 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: beer for you. I said, I've never played a full 493 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: band in my life. Like, so I called up my 494 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: buddy Josh in the studio and I said, hey, you 495 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: wanna do you want to put a band together? We 496 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: gotta play a gig like to my are. So we 497 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: stayed up all night put a band together. Literally just 498 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: practiced a bunch of cover songs, and when the next 499 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: day played it, we were terrible, but it was awesome. 500 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: We had a great time. You played a bunch of 501 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: covers and you played Forever Girl. So the last song 502 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: we played Forever Girl, did anybody sing it back? They know? 503 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: So this is when this was like my moment where 504 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: I just knew this is what I want to do 505 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: for the rest of my life, Like there's eight hundred 506 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: college kids. They're just like party and have good time, 507 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: you know. But when I started playing Forever Girl, they 508 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: knew every single word and they were screaming as loud 509 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: as I can. I was just like blown away, and 510 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: I was just like this, okay, this is what I 511 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: want to do for the rest of my life. I 512 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: just I'll never forget that feelings sitting there here and 513 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: did you to finish the school? Okay, so you're moved music. 514 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: You're like, I know what I want to do and 515 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't involve whever I'm studying. What were you studying? 516 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: I was doing criminology and sociology. Who needs that? Yeah? 517 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: That trying to do music over here? So you were 518 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: inside your junior year or so you were, So you 519 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: decide you're gonna do music. Now. Are your parents still around? Yeah? Okay, 520 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 1: so did you have to have the conversation with them. 521 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out of school. And I remember telling 522 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: my mom, you know, when I got off stage, and 523 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, I know what I'm gonna do. 524 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna move to Nashville'm gonna write songs. She's like, okay, 525 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: like hopefully you'll finished school and that didn't happen. So 526 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: but they were so supportive. And when I said, you know, 527 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna finish school right now, I'm gonna go 528 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: to chase this thing, I thought they were gonna do 529 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: the typical parent thing. No, you're gonna finish, You're gonna 530 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: do this. But so I wasn't gonna go home and 531 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna do anymore school. So I've never even 532 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: been in Nashville before. Scariest day and I just like 533 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: looked up at cheap, you know, place in Bellevue to 534 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: go rent out a little apartment and started out and 535 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: packed up the dog and came home. That's almost what 536 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: I did too. When I moved here, I don't know 537 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: that I had ever been here. I had a job 538 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: that was waiting. They were like, hey, moved, you know, 539 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: do this job. I wanted to move here, but I've 540 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: never been here, And I moved to Bellevue with the 541 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: dog in a in a tiny rent apartment that was 542 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: I lived there for like two months or so. It 543 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: was cold, and I went to mos every day because 544 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: it was a mose right over where I was living. 545 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: And my first memory of Nashville was every day. After 546 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: I would go to work, I would come in and 547 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: here we'll go to Mose. You ever go to Mose 548 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: and they had that machine of Mose with all the 549 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 1: different drinks on it, so you just put your cup down. 550 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: You have like nineteen drinks. And although I'm well into 551 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: my thirties now, I still I think I made a suicide. 552 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: What you got? Just every time my eight year old self. Yeah, 553 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: so you moved to Nashville. How many years ago you 554 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: come to town? This was two? So may you have 555 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: you played a bunch of shows before you moved or 556 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: you had to move here and then try it? Was? Well? 557 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: I was, so I was while I was in college 558 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: that whole year. You know, I was contemplating finishing or 559 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: gonna move and I was still doing school. But that's 560 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: why I didn't finish because I miss so much class. Um, 561 00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: So you move here, you decide you're you missed so 562 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 1: much school, so you just like, might as well not 563 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: go back to school. All the kids listening, that's the dream, right, 564 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: that's the dream. That's the dream. And then did you 565 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: move to Nashville to be a songwriter or to be 566 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: an artist? In your mind? When I felt what on 567 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: stage during that show, I knew I wanted to perform 568 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: my songs that I was writing. So I knew I 569 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: was like, there was no better feeling than that, and 570 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: and I knew right then that I wanted to be 571 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: an artist as well too. I'm gonna play some of 572 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: this time. So this music here by the bed, see 573 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: how the chat right on the rocks that sky wan 574 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: to burn? Right girl, Wrong Time from right Girl. Yes, 575 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: she was a man about a wrong day. We spend 576 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: this a personal song, Right Girl, Wrong Time about you? 577 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: Did that girl know you're long about her? Yeah? She 578 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: did a little while later. He didn't tell her immediately, 579 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: He didn't send to the work tape. What happened with that? 580 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: She didn't work out? Didn't work out because I mean 581 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: it was you just being up here and just doing it, 582 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: and uh, just I just didn't work out. Here is 583 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: probably at a bar. I'm probably at a bar contraying 584 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: Mary Traving this song My god I got anyway when 585 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: it comes to loving you, Because when it comes to 586 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: loving you, yeah, my walls phones and touch The single 587 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: right now currently the top forty number thirty seven, Look 588 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: before you came in. Congrats on that. That's thank you 589 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: first of all, to get a chart, to get a 590 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: song even worked by a record level, they only have 591 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: so many spots. It's it's money that all that. But 592 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: then to break out that sixties and fifties mush that 593 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: everybody sits in for a while, it's a big deal. 594 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: This is currently number thirty seven. This is now, you know, 595 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: be drinking every Friday. Your new sounds about the small 596 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: town in that sundown town sound school from logan Bill, Georgia. 597 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: What's what's Loganville like? And it's blown up? Now, it's 598 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: blown up. It's blown up. I went, I was there. 599 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: I drove through there the other day and it's just 600 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: like new restaurants everywhere, new neighborhoods everywhere. It's crazy how 601 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: many people live in Loganville. And I think eight thousand now, 602 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: so still a small town. It's still small town. But 603 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: like I mean, it was like back in the day. 604 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: Do they have an applebee though? Oh yeah, because when 605 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: we got an apple I'm from a town of seven hundred, 606 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: but Hot Springs was town. Like when you go to town, 607 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: you drive to Hot Springs. That's where Walmart was. Sore. 608 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: I think that's for a lot of people to grow 609 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: up in small towns in the country. Walmart is the 610 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: is the edge just when you no you're getting to 611 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: town and outside. When they built Applebee's on the edge 612 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: of Walmart, I was like, now we're living when they 613 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: built that applebee that was pretty pumped about that. Loganville, Georgia. 614 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: Did you go to like the school in Loganville? I 615 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: went to Grayson High School, so you know, like you're 616 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: talking about, I grow up like in the Grayson area, 617 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: which is like and then Loganville was like the bigger town. 618 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: You know. It was Luke. I tell you why I 619 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: reached out to you to bring you up was I 620 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: was having dinner with Luke and Luke and I never 621 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: talked business ever, but I asked him. I was like, hey, 622 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: I know John, like you're part of John's dealing. So 623 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: what do you like about John. It wasn't like is 624 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: he any good? Obviously, Luke Brian thinks you're good if 625 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: he is invested in you, and he goes he said, 626 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: I won't do the impression. But he was like, you know, 627 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: he said, there's a lot of people in Nashville that 628 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: are good, he goes, but there are only a few 629 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: that work really hard that just grind it out. And 630 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Luke was a grinder back in the day. And so 631 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: when he said that, he was like, you know, I 632 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: just haven't seen like people with the hustle like John hustles. 633 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: And so I was like, you know, that's the kind 634 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: of guy I want to bring up here. And that's 635 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: that was what made this connection, was just sitting eat 636 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: dinner with Luke and him going, you know, John works 637 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: really hard. Because I'm somebody was like, I don't have 638 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: a lot of talent, but nobody's gonna outwork me, exactly, 639 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: and so and and even Carrie, your manager, was saying 640 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: the same thing. She was like, I just am so 641 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: invested in the guy that puts his heart and just 642 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: there's so many clubs and so many bars and just 643 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: shows up night after night, which made that song when 644 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: it popped so big, which made that a think where 645 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: it is the people, you know, it is the people 646 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: that you're seeing all the time out there that no 647 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like, you know, going back to 648 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: the football thing, you know, I was I was not 649 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: the tallest, you know, I wasn't the the fastest, strongest guy, 650 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: but like I wanted what I wanted to go get 651 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: setting those goals. And I wanted to go get a 652 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: scholarship to go play football in college. And I set 653 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: out on it, and you know, a lot of people 654 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: doubted me. A lot of people, you know, you know, 655 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: you know on paper, you know I should you know, 656 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't go play it? Do you want in school? But 657 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: like I just you know the things I learned from football, 658 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, working hard, waking up, go to practice, uh 659 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: discipline and you know, going to weight room when the 660 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: others weren't going. It's the same thing. And you know 661 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: music like are you gonna wake up and and go 662 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: write that song when you know when someone else is 663 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: in or you're gonna write the song that someone else? 664 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's the same type of mentality. And I 665 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: feel I feel like that's helped me in in this grind. 666 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: Whenever you move here, do you ever reach out to Rhet? 667 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: You said, Rhet? Was that so? Two months after I moved, 668 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: I can still show you the d M on Twitter 669 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: and said, hall at me, Rhett. And I'm sitting there 670 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: in tin roof, had a few beers. I'm like, oh 671 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: my god, but they have a winder in the picture 672 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: or is it just it was no. It was like 673 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: at first, I think it's like, you know, one of 674 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: those fake accounts, and I see the blue check and 675 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: I see just how lapped me in his number, and 676 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, look look at my buddies. 677 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, what do I do. They're like, don't call 678 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: him right now? And so I called him next day 679 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 1: and we talked forever and uh, you know when over 680 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: his house, we had a beer and just told him 681 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: my goals and told him, you know, my story, play 682 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: him a few songs I was working on. And he's like, man, 683 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: I want to help you, you know, I want to 684 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: show you how this works and everything, but I'm not 685 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: gonna help you if you don't you know, you're not 686 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: gonna put into this, if you're gonna half asked this, 687 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna help you like I want you. 688 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's what instilled to me when I 689 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: moved to town, like Okay, this is real. This is 690 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: what I It's either balls of the walls or I'm 691 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: this ain't gonna happen. So um. I feel like that 692 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: meeting really helped set the tone when I move to 693 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: town because I knew right then I was like man, 694 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: I got somebody who's gonna take a chance on me, 695 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: and I cannot let them down. And he vousked me 696 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: to get a publishing deal. Yeah, and so then you 697 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: start to get paid right songs, which great, pay your 698 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: rent right eat for working on your crash, yeah, like 699 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: which is which is a real thing. Um. The story 700 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: that I heard about you as you opened for Luke 701 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: Brian on the farm tours seen which was a bit 702 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: of a full circle moment because I guess you had 703 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: been to one of Luke's farm tour shows and and 704 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: and watched it from the crowd a few years earlier. Yeah, 705 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: I was in the crowd and hanging out and with 706 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: my buddies and Athens, and I was like, man, I 707 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: would love to be on that stage one day, Like 708 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: this is such a cool environment. And I got the 709 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: opportunity and I was out there and it was a 710 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: full circle moment. It was really cool. And Luke's kind 711 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: of been a mentor to you a bit, huh. Definitely. 712 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: I saw the video where he came and surprised you. 713 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: I guess you were in the recording studio and he 714 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we're at a music row and my 715 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: producers office writing and the door opens up. He's got 716 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: a ball of champagne carries like we gotta celebrating to do, 717 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: and he's like, you got a record deal, you know. 718 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, you know because a week before, 719 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, we had a meeting and and 720 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: Luke brought me into Universal to me to see Dugan 721 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: all those eyes, and they said, and Luke said, go 722 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: down and see the show. Just go see it, just 723 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: go see it. So he's like, go take my plane 724 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: and go see it. Like whatever it takes, just go 725 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: see it. So they came down and saw the show, 726 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: and I didn't hear nothing for a week. So I'm 727 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: like I blew it. I blew it, Like I was like, 728 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: this was my chance. And so I'm devastated for like 729 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: a week, texting Carry every day, like calling her like hey, 730 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: do you hear anything Universal reach out yet? And no, no, 731 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: no you're not yet. And then when that door opened up, 732 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: but I saw them, I was like like it was like, man, 733 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: it was such a rewarding moment, man, because like I 734 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: worked so hard and and me and my guys, my 735 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: team and everyone just like have been the years and 736 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: just getting in that van and just going and and 737 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: riding every every single day and just trying to do 738 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: the best. We Cannon and to see that loocal Brian 739 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: with a balls champagne and face saying you got a 740 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: record deal. It was like the greatest day fun fact 741 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: of your grandma being related to Johnny Cash true or false? 742 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: That's true. Your grandma was ranted to Johnny Cash house, 743 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: so so it was her second or third cousin ors thing. 744 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: I had to look at what we my uncle and 745 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: my mom they literally hired a yeah, and she did 746 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 1: like this whole family book history of like the past 747 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: like two d years or something, and it was crazy 748 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: and there was like playing a think you know right there, 749 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: your grandma Johnny Cash, second cousin. Yeah. Yeah. It was 750 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: like because it was a rumor in our family forever 751 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: and ever. You know, of course I'm like, yeah, right, 752 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna be like, oh, yeah, I'm related 753 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: to Johnny Cash, you know, like I'm not gonna until 754 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: I had proof. And there there was that's still a 755 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: far enough distance stuff that if you wanted to date 756 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: Johnny Cash you could. When you say yeah, like that's 757 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: that's far enough for have you guys hit it off? 758 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: You can still date and I don't think the light 759 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: So you know, probably tough now, yeah, probably tough. Probably tough. 760 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: A lot of you Georgia, A lot of you Georgia 761 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: guys are you know, obnoxiously passionate about the bulldogs. And 762 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: I'm an sec guy. I'm a rockinsall guy. But but 763 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, it comes to mind it's Cole Swindel your 764 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: friends with Cale. Yeah, because you're from Georgia. Do you 765 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: bind on that? Or where you guys? Boys at all? 766 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: So he actually saw back when I was doing like 767 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: covers on YouTube, he saw him. He saw my Beer 768 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: in the Headlights cover that he wrote that Luke recorded, 769 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: and so that how was it? In call? This was 770 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and thirteen. He was doing a 771 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: show at Cowdi Jose in Chlotte, North Carolina. That week. 772 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, man, I love to meet you. He 773 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: gave me take us to his show. You got to 774 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: meet him hung out. It was awesome, like we were 775 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: been friends and ever since then. The other annoying Georgia guys, 776 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,479 Speaker 1: And by the way I say it in a loving 777 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: way is Travis Denning. Oh my gosh, who's super FoST 778 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: I love it Trapp is like one of my best 779 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: friends and you know, but yeah, he's one of them 780 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: Georgia Bulldog fans like Traps. Shut up, like, come on, 781 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: make us a little bit. Travis. Travis sawesome because Travis 782 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: is Uh. We had a Christmas party and I just 783 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: called Trivis, like, dude, I'll give you like three hundred bucks, 784 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: come up here and play for thirty And he shows 785 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: up with a guitar hard and set up on the 786 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: thing down in the living room and it was me, 787 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: you know, our show, and nobody you played too. Yeah, 788 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: And then we had guest hosts this last weekend this 789 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: week on the radio show, so I had Travis come 790 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: in and just be a guest like I guess, not 791 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: even an interview, just be a guest host for a while. Um. Yeah, 792 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: Travis a good dude. He's a lot. He's a good 793 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 1: dude though. He's awesome and I love to drink beer 794 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: with him. He's a man. On Instagram John Lankston followers 795 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: for someone that doesn't have a smash yet, that's substantial 796 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: Like that just shows the grassroots movement happening there. So 797 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: you're going to Detroit, What's what's happening in the next 798 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: few months, any think kind of on the horizon you're 799 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: looking forward to. Yeah, we're getting back in the studio 800 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: doing another session hopefully cut five or six. Yeah, yeah, 801 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: and touring wise, you just out all the time that 802 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: the goals. What man, this was? You know, we're not 803 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: stopping the train, you know, just keep feeding it. My 804 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: grandma said, dance with the girl that brought you so exactly, 805 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: keep you here. They're keeping us busy and we ain't stopping, 806 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: you know. We We're out with Morgan Wallen right now. Um, 807 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: having a blast doing that. Um uh. We had a 808 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: little break. We staw it out January second, so it 809 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 1: was like Chris break bamn, back to it real quick. 810 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: So it's been awesome, you know, doing our own little 811 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: headline thing until we're back out with more than in 812 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: the middle of March, and then do that in April 813 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: beginning by and then festival season maybe yeah, festival seasons. 814 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: It's fun. It's fun there because we're I'm doing a 815 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: bunch of fairs, a couple of festivals. The good thing 816 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: is they pay well more than they probably should, right 817 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: because they're just paying you to come out and entertain 818 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: of who knows how many people are gonna show up. 819 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: That's if it's fair. We're having a fair. They need 820 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: to say we have all these people playing. The bad 821 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: news about it is a lot of times stage is 822 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: crappy and the sound is crappy, and so you just 823 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: kind of go. You just gotta g do you do? 824 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: You just go listen? And I'm not winning any awards 825 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: from my musicality anyway. But the festival season is fine 826 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: because you get to also hang out with a bunch 827 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: of your friends who you don't normally get to hang 828 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: out with when when it's professional time. So you get 829 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: to do your music and have your fun while also 830 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: there's nine busses in the back of faster horses and 831 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: you're back there with everybody just hanging. That's one of 832 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: my favorite festivals ever. Have you played it? Yeah? It's great, 833 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: huh awesome. Yeah. Um. He does those festivals so wonderfully 834 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: that and we have a podcast with with Yeah we 835 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: do um that he you like to play those for? 836 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't. He knows what he's doing and he's a 837 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: great friend. Brian O'Connell is just the man when he 838 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: comes to put a festival together. Well, listen, man, I've 839 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: enjoyed talking with you. I admire that you are someone 840 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: who just puts his head down and go not to 841 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: get head down and get concussions, but puts his head 842 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: down and just goes to work. And you know it eventually, 843 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: for people that don't stop working, you see the rewards. 844 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes like I get irritated because I'm busting 845 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: my tail and I'm like, what's what? Where? Where is it? 846 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: The one thing that I've learned is that people can't 847 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: stop you from working hard. They make it stop you 848 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: from other things. They make it tell you're not good 849 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: at this now, they make it tell you the door 850 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: is not open now. But they can't stop you from 851 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: banging your head against it and keep working. So you 852 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: don't need my encouragement, but I encourage you. Just keep 853 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: doing what you're doing that got you here. With me, 854 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I love someone that'll just show up 855 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: and do the work. And so yeah, do the deal man. 856 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: Congratulations on everything. I hope when I look at the 857 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: chart in a few weeks at thirty sevens at thirty 858 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: one and three, and let's go songs about how small 859 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: John Langston, all right, we're now I gonna talk about 860 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: famous bandmates who hated each other with my bandmate from 861 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: The Raging Idiots, Eddie, You sure, I don't think. I 862 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: don't know that we could have even moderately been annoyed 863 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: with each other and kept doing it. Because there's only 864 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: two of us. We're really not making that much money. 865 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 1: I feel like we just love doing it, so that's 866 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: why we do it. But yeah, if if we hated 867 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: each other, we would just stop. Yeah. I feel like 868 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: if we weren't really good friends, I would have just 869 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: went solo. Oh wow, nice, thank you. So you just 870 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: kept me on because I'm a friend. No, I would 871 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: have just done a stand up comedy the guitar on. 872 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's something about the music stuff that 873 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: we do that people just love. And it's weird how 874 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: we were what were received really well, Like when we 875 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: play together, people will love us and we love them 876 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: no matter what we do with each other. You mean, 877 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: we can just go up there and I mean look 878 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: at what we Look what we used to do. We 879 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: used to play in restaurants for thirty people, bad parodies. Yeah, Mike, 880 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: they would they would we walk into a rib joint, 881 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, and they would just move all the tables 882 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: and like, all right, this is where you play. Sometimes 883 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: people would come, some say wouldn't and then smash cut. 884 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: We play for two people of night now or festivals. Um, 885 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: and we're not that good. Our band is really good. 886 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: I should say I'm not that good of a singer, 887 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: but our songs are really funny. Now we've definitely gotten 888 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: a lot better in our content is super funny. It's 889 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: a really fun. I would be proud of people to 890 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: come to the show now. At one point I'd be like, no, 891 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: we're just having fun with people, And now I think 892 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: we're really entertaining people. Um, like the of the Target 893 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: song Mike on our latest shopping and Target we khaki 894 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: pantsing a red shirt on, don't go shopping and Target 895 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: we khaki pansing a red polo shirt on. So it's 896 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: fun and we've gotten good and we're getting way funnier. 897 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: Did you ever get annoyed with me or anything? Like, 898 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: just while we've been doing late that was trying to leave, 899 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: he must be late, let's just go. That was New Orleans. Yeah, 900 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: it was like he wants to be late, be dispectful, 901 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: just go, I tell the driver and dropps. I don't 902 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 1: know what to dude. It was just in the suit. 903 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: He's like, dude, her was get down here right now. 904 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna leave. Famous bandmates who hated each other pump up. 905 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: Some of the biggest bands and people in the band 906 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: could not stand each other. Some of them were able 907 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: to stay together, some weren't. And so every band on here, 908 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: from Oasis to CCR, all great music, at some point, 909 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: all hated each other. Some stay together, some didn't. And 910 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I will say, if you're in a 911 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: band with someone for so long, just the natural human 912 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: of people, you grow apart. You grow, you have different interests, 913 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: you have different reasons for staying in the band or 914 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: or not staying in the band, or different friend group. 915 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: It just as the natural evolution of human beings. You 916 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: have different friends that you're twenty that you do. So 917 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: that being said, we'll start with Aerosmith. Who hated who? 918 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: What two people in arrows with hitted each other? I 919 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: mean it would be Joe Perry and Steve Steve lead 920 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: singer and guitar player. Here's the clip of Aerosmith. If 921 00:44:54,680 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: you want to and do they still hit each other? 922 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 1: I think they they They're back to let's just do music. 923 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: But the basic issue was that Joe Perry was in 924 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: it for the music and Steven Tyler was in it 925 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 1: for the fame and the women. I don't know, it 926 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: didn't matter to me. It's like, guys, you're making good 927 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: music either way, right, I mean, it's just don't don't 928 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: worry what whatever everyone's in in it for, Like, just 929 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: do it. Joe Perry once told him just because we're 930 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: a band together doesn't mean we have to be friends. 931 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: Who that's tough though, told be that close all the 932 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,439 Speaker 1: time and not be friends. Well, and I did see 933 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: even when they played the Grammys. You can kind of tell, 934 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 1: like like Joe Perry would be annoyed with Steven Tyler 935 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: just their demeanor on stage. And I didn't really forgot 936 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: about this. I remember reading about it a long time ago, 937 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: but I forgot that they hate each other. And I 938 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: saw it when I saw the Grammys. Well, now the 939 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: keyboard is like once in the band and they wouldn't 940 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: let him in it anymore. But again, they're like a 941 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: hundred Oasis. Here's a clup of Oasis. I played this 942 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: c D until my CD player smoked, really of exhaustion. 943 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: What's the story Morning Glory. Yeah, it's good stuff. Man. 944 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: Man who hated to Oh I think Noel hated Liam 945 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: because Liam was a slacker or something. Well they're only 946 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: two of them, so they hated each other. Um, but 947 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: they always fought since I remember them. Yeah, I mean 948 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: it's it's a brother's thing, you know, Like me and 949 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: my brother fought all the time. I have four boys 950 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 1: at the house right now, three of them fighting NonStop, 951 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: and the other one is a baby. So so if 952 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: he's old enough, he'll fight too. That's just what brothers do. Yeah, 953 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: but do you get in a band, it isn't an 954 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: overarching love over the fighting, and if you're gonna it 955 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: just seems I think it's easier to fight if you're 956 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: in a band together as brothers because but then you 957 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: start making money, and yet you have to get along 958 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: for your lengevitdy, your career, your finances. They didn't give 959 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: an f They really didn't know. They used lots of 960 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: controlled substances, had lots of bad shows, and one show 961 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: Liam hitt Noel with a tambour. Noel quit the next 962 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: day You're re going rejoined the group. Um, they were 963 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: gonna ump record of empty emptb on plug. Excuse me. 964 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: Liam claimed to have laryngitis, so no one had to 965 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: sing all the solos, which wasn't what I'm saying. Just 966 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: annoyed with the dude, like you're just messing us up. 967 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,439 Speaker 1: Rather than head to home to rest his voice, Liam 968 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 1: said in the balcony where he drank and heckled the 969 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: band through the whole set. I remember this. Liam refused 970 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: to America with the band, once again, forcing Noel to 971 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: sing something that he believes ruin the band's chances for 972 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: stardom in America. In two thousand, Liam allegedly question whether 973 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 1: Noel was actually the father of his oldest daughter. No 974 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: quick the band, So it's Noel quit in the band 975 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: all the time? You noticed that. I think you just 976 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: gets tired of Liam's crap every single time, and they're like, 977 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: all right, fine, let's get back together. Guns and Roses 978 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: Actel hated all the guys. Wow. Really, Guns and Roses 979 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: problems beginning the early nineties. Now again, this is later 980 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: on for Guns and Roses because they were an eighties 981 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:03,240 Speaker 1: band for the most this would be um illusion, illusion, 982 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 1: lose or use? Did you say maybe you lose? I 983 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Um, nobody knew why Axel 984 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: and Slash hatted each other. It seemed like they were 985 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: just having creative differences. According to Guns and Roses, old 986 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: Road manager, the feud can be boiled down to Michael Jackson. 987 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: In an interview with Rolling Stone, Doug gold Scene revealed 988 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 1: that after Slash agreed to play guitar on Michael Jackson's 989 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: Black or White actually got piste. Axel was allegedly molested 990 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: by his father as a child, and even though Jackson 991 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: had yet to be investigative for child molestation, rumors were flying, 992 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 1: and Axel believe the rumors. Then, when Slash reportedly admitted 993 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: he was getting paid with a flat screen TV, the 994 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: devastated rose the relationship went bad. They shut it down. 995 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: It was the college football You got paid with a TV? 996 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, dude. Yeah, but the payola scandal of 997 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: radio of two thousand one, I never heard that story. Excellent, 998 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: slash Bury the hatchet recently or the reunion toryly kicked 999 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: off in and they're playing now again. They're probably just 1000 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: like we can use the money. The Eagles they're not 1001 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 1: on this list, I don't think. Then the list they 1002 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: don't talk. They just come out before the John walk 1003 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: out together. That's just unbelievable to me. Um, you guys 1004 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: are just like that though. Van Halen, oh, big time. 1005 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 1: They they hate all their singers. It was it was 1006 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: brothers versus everyone else because Eddie van Halen and Alex 1007 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 1: van Halen they were they were the brothers of the 1008 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: van and they just hated everyone else and if it 1009 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: wasn't their way, it would be like, sorry, you're out. 1010 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: But they think The weird thing was they weren't the 1011 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 1: stars of the group. No, they weren't, And so you 1012 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: don't get your way if you're not the star of 1013 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: the group of whatever the situation. There's a star, the 1014 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: star gets away, the star leaves the David Lee Roth 1015 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 1: and Sammy Hagar eras the two lead singers, by the way, 1016 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: they were more there was the guy from the Extreme 1017 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: I forgot about that time. Um, so you know they 1018 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: both got into a big time that massive, massive hits. Yeah, 1019 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: and you know it's probably always awkward for the basis, 1020 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: who's all just like all right, whatever, guys, let's just play. 1021 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: Nobody showed up for the Rock and Roll Hall of 1022 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:11,320 Speaker 1: Fame induction ceremony, but Sammy Hagar and um Anthony is 1023 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,320 Speaker 1: he the keys player, He's the basis. He's the basis 1024 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: bass player m who later went on to found Chicken 1025 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 1: Foot Together, which is Sammy Hagar's man. I only know 1026 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 1: that because Howard Starne show and they want to play 1027 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 1: chicken fot so here we go. Eddie Van Halen heavily 1028 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: criticized Anthony after firing later the same year. Something Hagar 1029 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: never got over anyway, Who cares? Do you like their music? 1030 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: Before me? Oh? I love Van Helen. This is my 1031 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: brother listened to it all the time. I never never 1032 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: got into it here on classic rock, never in pop 1033 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: because a little ahead of me, do not have anybody 1034 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 1: giving it to me. Uh. Simon and Garfuncle, they hit 1035 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: at each other. That's tough, man. You're a duo like 1036 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,919 Speaker 1: you know bands. I get it whatever, but they're duo. 1037 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: They create, and gosh, it's gonna be tough. Paul Simon 1038 00:50:55,239 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: wrote songs. Garfuncle was the front guy because Paul Simon 1039 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: was too shy to sing and they did not like 1040 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: each other. After a while, Simon and Garfuncle bridge over 1041 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: trouble Water the Boxer at the Rock and Roll Induction 1042 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: but they still got at each other. Garfuncle said he'd 1043 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: created a monster, while Simon took credit for having quote 1044 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 1: enriched garf Funcle's life quite a bit. Wow, Man's two. 1045 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: There's that power struggle. Here's a hate quote. I regret 1046 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: at the ending of our friendship, and I hope that 1047 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: one day before we die well able to make peace 1048 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 1: with each other. Then he added, no, rush who said that, 1049 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 1: garlf uncle? That is Paul Simon. Here's a clip of 1050 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:55,919 Speaker 1: Simon and Garfuncle. Go right, let's move over to kiss 1051 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 1: Geene Simon and Paul Stanley hate Ace Freely and Peter 1052 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 1: Chris Jean Simmons. What would I say, Simon, I don't know, dude. Yes, yeah, 1053 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: this is the one time I get to correct you 1054 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: at this point. Yes. Stanley and Simmons took a part 1055 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: in a very public dispute over which contributors would go 1056 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 1: into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame power struggle. 1057 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: They had already had a bunch of controversy because they 1058 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: allowed people to dress up like Chris and Ace and 1059 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: they really weren't them. Because you put the paint on 1060 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: the people, you would never know. Simmons pointly thanked every 1061 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: other Kiss member passed and present. Meanwhile, Chris took his 1062 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: own shot. I want to say, in and out of makeup, 1063 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: I'll always be the catman. It's never a kiss guy 1064 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: for me. I like rock and roll all night and 1065 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 1: then I like that song from They have a slow 1066 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: song about it with a girl's name. They sang it 1067 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: in that Paul rud movie. Uh I Love you man? No? Yeah, 1068 00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 1: maybe what's the pull up a role model? Maybe their 1069 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: music where they use all kiss music. Yeah, play, look 1070 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: at the playlist and kiss. So it's a girl's name. Yeah, 1071 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 1: it's like a Manda or roset bath. That's it. Yeah. 1072 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 1: I like this one here you calling? Yeah, but I 1073 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,359 Speaker 1: can't come home. I think he sings us to her 1074 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: in the movie Me and the Bars are playing um 1075 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: to Creatence, clear Water Revival, everything. But he hates John Fogarty. 1076 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: Oh he was the dude. Here is that clep the CCR. 1077 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: Imagine it's hard when you're a band and your lead 1078 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: singer just starts getting more famous than everyone else. Don't 1079 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: be hard for the band, John, focus on my first 1080 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: concerts ever. Play Please put me in coach. I'm ready 1081 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: to play. That's so good, Damn. I love CCR. We 1082 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: did uh in high school our band we played CCR 1083 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: songs at the high school talent show. This is the 1084 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: Concubine Kings. Well it moved around it. Yeah, what was 1085 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: this the early Raging, Well, it was all that was 1086 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: the same people, different names. We tried once to go 1087 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: be there as we were the Concubine Kings, which concubine 1088 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: is prostitute the Bible days. Yeah, and so we went 1089 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: to church as and played at church as the Concubine Kings, 1090 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: not really know, probably wasn't the thing to do. No 1091 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: one looked up the definition. Not really. They were like 1092 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 1: the talking about concubines in the Bible. We're like the 1093 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: concubine Kings. Come on. And then we did a song, 1094 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, because I'm bad at the bone. We did 1095 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: but there's golden above, Pardy put your hands out. Yeah 1096 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: we did. The Beach Boys, Oh yeah. Brian Wilson and 1097 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: Mike Love hated each other, and Mike Love is basically 1098 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: the leader of it now. Brian Wilson even the Beach 1099 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 1: Boys anymore, and an and I read recently that he 1100 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: was I think Brian Wilson was trying to get everyone 1101 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: to boycott. Yeah, because they they're playing in the hunting 1102 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: log that's right, that's right, Yes, like a big hunting lodge, 1103 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 1: which you always think Brian Wilson doesn't care about anything 1104 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: and never hear from Brian Wilson other than just music stuff. 1105 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,280 Speaker 1: But he's just like, no, do not go. He agreed 1106 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: to play this show. One he's not the Beach Boys, 1107 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: and two don't go support that Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, I 1108 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, it's kind of annoying. Yeah. The Ramons, Oh, 1109 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 1: they all hate each other. Joey and Johnny hated each other. 1110 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: Do you wanna something dumb? I never knew their last 1111 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: names weren't romans. I thought they were all brothers. I 1112 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: don't think that's dumb. Though they look the same. Yeah, 1113 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: I thought so their name is right. I was like, 1114 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 1: cool man, what did you think when they started swapping 1115 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,800 Speaker 1: out members and you got more family and didn't realize 1116 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 1: they swapped out members? Kings of Leon? Oh yeah, that 1117 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 1: documentary is crazy. Have you seen that one? They all 1118 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 1: hitted each other. Yeah, that one's nuts because the documentary 1119 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: starts with the lead singer just sitting on a front 1120 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: porch starting opening up a bottle of liquor opening up 1121 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: and at the end of the towards the end of 1122 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: the documentary, he's just wasted, and that's what a lot 1123 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,479 Speaker 1: of this has gout, alcohol issues and soide. He starts crying, 1124 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: talking about the band and getting really emotional, and they're like, yeah, 1125 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: well there you go. Well bands are humans, Yeah, no, absolutely, 1126 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: and you keep them together and force them together and 1127 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: make them work together in a supposed to be a 1128 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: creative space and some person's gotta take the lead and 1129 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: other people are gonna agree with it. They're money and creativity. 1130 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: It's just a lot you imagine too, like the cheating 1131 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: going on, especially if there's not a defined leader. Yes, 1132 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: if there's not an a salute defined leader, this is 1133 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: the person, then there's a lot of that because right 1134 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: or wrong, the leader's leader until he's not good enough 1135 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 1: be the leader anymore and gets replaced, dies, the band 1136 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: goes away. You know, if there's not a defined this 1137 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: person is making the decisions, you start to see if 1138 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: people are all equals, you can start to fight over 1139 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: whose ideas what? And wouldn't you agree that every band fights. 1140 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: Any group people fight, they start together, Yeah, not just 1141 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 1: every band, Yes, yes, I agree to that. Yes, but 1142 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: if you just took us through you met you, Mike, 1143 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: D and Joe who's doing a video over there, fight, 1144 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: and you put us together every day and made us 1145 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: travel the world and actually we're gonna be together. So 1146 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 1: like my D and I've got into it before and 1147 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: he's the nicest guy in the world. Well, we just 1148 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: don't talk. Don't talk, No, we don't talk anyway. It's 1149 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: just like it happens and then the end um. But yeah, 1150 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: all right, that is uh that that was an interesting segment.