Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News Headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This
Speaker 1: is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan cow Calahan. Here's
Speaker 1: cal Scientists just can't stop giving drugs to fish lately.
Speaker 1: A couple weeks ago, we brought you the story of
Speaker 1: researchers dosing salmon with cocaine and observing them unsurprisingly going
Speaker 1: into beast mode. Beast mode, of course, being the technical
Speaker 1: scientific term for swimming faster and farther than other fish,
Speaker 1: as well as wearing blazers with the sleeves rolled up.
Speaker 1: This week, we learned of a group of much groovy
Speaker 1: er scientists who administered the active ingredient in psychedelic mushrooms
Speaker 1: to several mangrove rivolus, a fish species known for its aggression,
Speaker 1: to study the effects of the compound on social behavior.
Speaker 1: The makes a good test subject because it can reproduce asexually,
Speaker 1: resulting in multiple fish with the exact same genetics, which
Speaker 1: allows researchers to rule out gene variations as a cause
Speaker 1: of the experiment's outcome. Mangrove rivulus are also extremely cool
Speaker 1: because they can survive out of water for more than
Speaker 1: two months straight, breathing air through their skin while eating
Speaker 1: mosquitos and other flying insects. They travel across land by
Speaker 1: curling their front halves upward and then flapping their tails
Speaker 1: down backflipping several times the length of their own bodies.
Speaker 1: If you're confused by this, you know, watch somebody do
Speaker 1: the worm on the old YouTube. It's dance move that
Speaker 1: the kids used to do. Not surprisingly, the psilocybin really
Speaker 1: enhanced the fish's mellow, making them react more peacefully to
Speaker 1: other fish they interacted with. The rivulus are also listening
Speaker 1: to a lot of Jimi Hendrix and really getting into
Speaker 1: macrome these days. The scientists say the results show the therapeutic
Speaker 1: possibilities of psychedelic therapy for people. Which, sure, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how similar the nervous systems of one inch long
Speaker 1: brackish water dwelling fish and a human being might be,
Speaker 1: but it seems like everyone could use a little bit
Speaker 1: of mental reset in twenty twenty six. Plus, listening to
Speaker 1: more Jimmy is always the right choice. This week we've
Speaker 1: got Conservation Landscape, the Crime Desk, Cutlery, and so much more.
Speaker 1: But first I'm going to tell you about my week
Speaker 1: and my week Well, she's been busy the baby boy
Speaker 1: is nearly fully baked. The last ultrasound is very human.
Speaker 1: Mama is doing great. And we've been eating turkey legs
Speaker 1: and wings. Now I put turkey legs and wings, and
Speaker 1: this is a very complicated recipe, So stay with me
Speaker 1: in the crock pot with water, skin on. That's it.
Speaker 1: Turn your crockpot on low for like eight hours or more.
Speaker 1: You can put it on high for six hours something
Speaker 1: like that. Typically I'll run two at a time so
Speaker 1: I can get everything in while I'm doing stock or
Speaker 1: just like processing in general. If I have some bits
Speaker 1: and pieces that I want to like make for pre
Speaker 1: made meals, which are making a lot of premade meals
Speaker 1: right now waiting on this kid to come. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's right, all of you who just can't
Speaker 1: or won't imagine eating turkey legs and wings if you
Speaker 1: put them in a crock pot with the skin on
Speaker 1: and cover with water for eight hours or so, then
Speaker 1: shred the meat you have regular old turkey, but it's moist.
Speaker 1: I'll do this while I'm also making turkey stock. And
Speaker 1: if you want like a little little extra little trick,
Speaker 1: when your turkey stock gets nice and cool and all that,
Speaker 1: fat and oil comes up to the surface. You can
Speaker 1: dip a ladle in there gently, just breaking the surface tension,
Speaker 1: and all that fat will fill in the ladle. And
Speaker 1: you do this three four, five times, depending on how
Speaker 1: big your stock pot is, and dump that fat back
Speaker 1: into the shredded leg meat. Anybody who has ever worked
Speaker 1: with wild game understands that it can dry very quickly,
Speaker 1: and if you do this, it will just suck up
Speaker 1: all that moisture and fat. And I swear to God,
Speaker 1: you don't even need to put salt on this stuff.
Speaker 1: It is good. You can fry it for carnitas, you
Speaker 1: can make barbecue sandwiches, you can make a quick vegetable
Speaker 1: soup this summer out of the garden and drop in
Speaker 1: a frozen bag of this stuff. At the very end.
Speaker 1: The sky is the limit with this stuff. I put
Speaker 1: it in pint bags, vacuum seal it, and throw it
Speaker 1: in the freezer for later use enchiladas, burritos, you'd have
Speaker 1: a turkey salad, sandwich, whatever. But it is good. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be shocked at how much meat comes off of
Speaker 1: that stuff and how tasty it really is. And the
Speaker 1: reason I leave the skin on is because that's like
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of fat in there. It breaks
Speaker 1: down completely in the slow cooker and I'll just when
Speaker 1: I'm shredding it, lay all the meat out and kind
Speaker 1: of just rough chop it all into uniform pieces. You
Speaker 1: won't even know the fats in there. It's great, And
Speaker 1: if for some reason it's still like a little tough,
Speaker 1: you can just put that stuff in the pressure cooker
Speaker 1: for another eight hours. Doesn't cost you nothing, but what
Speaker 1: you will gain is the feeling of pride and responsibility,
Speaker 1: knowing that you have used every bit of your turkey.
Speaker 1: Once you start doing this stuff, it's going to be
Speaker 1: really hard to pass up those jakes on public land
Speaker 1: because you're just like, oh my gosh, this stuff is
Speaker 1: so valuable. Another piece of news on the backcountry hunters
Speaker 1: and anglers front, this is not something I take lightly.
Speaker 1: We have filed a lawsuit asking for declaratory judgment against
Speaker 1: the State Game Agency Montana, Fish, WILDLFE and Parks. The
Speaker 1: state has been increasing the language around accessing public land
Speaker 1: through corners or corner crossing over the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: which from a state perspective, has always been a gray area,
Speaker 1: and most typically the agency has recommended that hunters get
Speaker 1: adjacent landowner permission before walking from public land to public land,
Speaker 1: and in the case that a landowner would want to
Speaker 1: see that person ticketed, it would be referred to the
Speaker 1: county attorney's office, and throughout state history, that's essentially where
Speaker 1: it enns. Cases that actually go beyond that are thrown out.
Speaker 1: Most just do not go anywhere, and there's no ticket
Speaker 1: if you're truly corner crossing, which is walking from public
Speaker 1: land to public land without making contact to private land
Speaker 1: that is adjacent, which means you're not causing damage, you're
Speaker 1: not loitering or lingering on private property, there is no trespass,
Speaker 1: or it would be considered what is known as deminimus truspass,
Speaker 1: which is how we as a society function in every state.
Speaker 1: For instance, I live in a cookie cutter neighborhood. I
Speaker 1: have to take care of the sidewalk in front of
Speaker 1: the house and the little sliver of lawn beyond it
Speaker 1: which the public uses. Now, we are also a castle
Speaker 1: doctrine state, so if I feel threatened, I could theoretically
Speaker 1: shoot someone on my property. But if that person is
Speaker 1: on the sidewalk and we're to gesture over the lawn,
Speaker 1: thusly invading my airspace right. And private property law in
Speaker 1: this country comes from the Romans and the English right.
Speaker 1: It's called the heaven to Hell doctrine. Whereas my little
Speaker 1: sliver runs to the center of the earth and to
Speaker 1: the heavens, And if somebody were to felt threatened, I
Speaker 1: could shoot them right well, kinda, it is trustpass, but
Speaker 1: it is deminimous trustpass. And if you were to shoot
Speaker 1: that person, your butt would be in jail. That's also
Speaker 1: how like stream access laws work. This is not an
Speaker 1: agree just taking of private property rights doesn't inhibit a
Speaker 1: landowner in any way. Currently, there's about eight hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy one thousand acres of public ground in Montana, so
Speaker 1: called corner locked or corner accessible, and those acres. For
Speaker 1: everyone who has come to this state and said, holy cow,
Speaker 1: public lands are crowded during hunting season and at certain
Speaker 1: times and in certain areas, you are absolutely right. Those
Speaker 1: eight hundred and seventy one thousand acres are already in play.
Speaker 1: They're being used. So what happens if we allow the
Speaker 1: state to remove those acres from play? That's where we're
Speaker 1: at the value of a hunting season is so great
Speaker 1: we cannot allow opinion to remove access and the opportunity
Speaker 1: that goes with it. As I like to say, every
Speaker 1: season is some kids very first and an old dog's last.
Speaker 1: In other words, it's invaluable moving on for kind of
Speaker 1: a solemn situation. Over there in the Great La States,
Speaker 1: the end of the Michigan United Conservation Clubs called it
Speaker 1: quits after ninety years. Back in nineteen thirty seven, hunters
Speaker 1: and anglers from across the state joined together to speak
Speaker 1: with one voice on conservation issues, instead of focusing only
Speaker 1: on trout or deer or one particular watershed. They recognize
Speaker 1: the need to join all those interests together when advocating
Speaker 1: for or against certain game laws in lansing. A huge
Speaker 1: amount of wildlife policy happens in the States, and that's
Speaker 1: a critical level of power to advance agendas that benefit everyone.
Speaker 1: MUCC was extremely effective for decades, drawing funding both from
Speaker 1: individual members and from affiliate clubs. MUCC was instrumental in
Speaker 1: some of Michigan's signature environmental victories, including establishing the Michigan
Speaker 1: Natural Resources Trust Fund, which dedicates resources from oil, gas
Speaker 1: and mineral extraction to acquiring and maintaining publicly accessible land.
Speaker 1: Since nineteen eighty four, the fund has granted one point
Speaker 1: four billion dollars to state and local governments for land
Speaker 1: in every single county in the state. In large part
Speaker 1: because of mucc's work, Michigan is one of the best
Speaker 1: places in the nation to get outside, even though it
Speaker 1: has so many people. They were a key part of
Speaker 1: passing the nineteen seventy six Bottle Bill, establishing a ten
Speaker 1: cent deposit on bottles and cans. After just four years,
Speaker 1: a study showed that the law had reduced litter by
Speaker 1: forty percent and was saving fifteen thousand tons of aluminum
Speaker 1: and sixty five thousand tons of glass every year. MUCC
Speaker 1: was also an important educator, publishing magazines, holding instructional events,
Speaker 1: and running summer camps for kids, bringing younger generations into hunting, angling,
Speaker 1: and advocating for animal species in wild places. They also
Speaker 1: helped to educate me a whole bunch if you listen
Speaker 1: back to episode two sixty three, where they take me
Speaker 1: through all the issues involved with coyote hunting and scientific
Speaker 1: management in Michigan. Despite all these strengths, the organization ran
Speaker 1: into funding problems over the past several years and recognized
Speaker 1: that they couldn't keep the lights. But we need organizations
Speaker 1: like MUCC, and maybe there's some Michiganders out there who
Speaker 1: want to start something new that can speak for all hunters,
Speaker 1: anglers and trappers in the state and bring in new
Speaker 1: people who want to get involved. There's tons of great
Speaker 1: organizations that were a part of MUCC, Michigan Backhountry, Hunters
Speaker 1: and Anglers being one. There's some butt kickers on that crew.
Speaker 1: I'd strongly suggest you look into our organization there in Michigan.
Speaker 1: I know Professes Forever is very active in the state,
Speaker 1: as is DU. We've got to make sure good things
Speaker 1: fill the void that MUCC is leaving. Moving on to
Speaker 1: New Jersey, we're issuing another call to our New Jersey
Speaker 1: listeners to stay on top of an issue we've covered before.
Speaker 1: Two bills are working their way through the legislature that
Speaker 1: would change the makeup of the state's Fish and Game Council,
Speaker 1: requiring three of the seats on the council to be
Speaker 1: filled by animal rights activists. The council is the body
Speaker 1: overseeing the New Jersey Fishing Game Code to protect and
Speaker 1: develop on wildlife for hunting and fishing, and they help
Speaker 1: decide which animals and how many can be taken. Currently,
Speaker 1: the Council is made up of three farmer representatives, six
Speaker 1: hunting and angling representatives, the chair of the States Endangered
Speaker 1: in Non Game Species Advisory Committee, and one expert in
Speaker 1: land use in soil conservation issues. The proposed bills would
Speaker 1: keep the same number of total seats on the Council,
Speaker 1: but would replace three of the hunter angler seats with
Speaker 1: three members recommended by animal welfare organizations in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: These new bills are the same ones carried from last
Speaker 1: year and given new titles. We've seen what this kind
Speaker 1: of takeover can look like in Colorado, for example, when
Speaker 1: animal rights appointees on the Parks and Wildlife Commission recently
Speaker 1: approved the petition to outlaw for trapping there, not only
Speaker 1: would animal rights activists oppose all hunting policy in New Jersey,
Speaker 1: they're also focused specifically on the state's black bear hunt.
Speaker 1: The New Jersey bear season is currently authorized through twenty
Speaker 1: twenty seven, but the Fishing Game Council still has to
Speaker 1: reauthorize the hunt before the twenty twenty eight season can
Speaker 1: go ahead. If anti hunters can get onto the Council.
Speaker 1: They can simply delay the whole process until the hunt
Speaker 1: authorization expires on its own, which would be disastrous, especially
Speaker 1: for the bears of the Garden State. Nowhere else in
Speaker 1: the country has such dense populations of both bears and
Speaker 1: people lived right on top of each other. In parts
Speaker 1: of New Jersey, there are two point six bears per
Speaker 1: square mile. Most biologists agree that a stable carrying capacity
Speaker 1: for bears is only about one per square mile. Sure,
Speaker 1: a place like Klamath, California has more black bears than that,
Speaker 1: but New Jersey has almost forty times as many people
Speaker 1: per square mile. That means bears getting hit by cars
Speaker 1: and getting shot after eating from dumpsters and raiding convenience stores.
Speaker 1: So New Jersey listeners call your reps to vote these
Speaker 1: bills down in the state Assembly it's built two thousand
Speaker 1: and five and in the Senate it's built four to
Speaker 1: seventy one. And will repost these on the cal To
Speaker 1: action site. Public opinion has really shifted on this and
Speaker 1: more people in the Garden State are on board with
Speaker 1: the bear hunt, but it's never a sure thing, and
Speaker 1: the antis are working hard on this one. An important
Speaker 1: thing to remember when we're advocating on these issues, is
Speaker 1: you got to start from the from the beginning and
Speaker 1: give people the whole enchilada, the whole context, the whole
Speaker 1: Turkey leg enchilada. The reason being is there's been multiple
Speaker 1: studies out there, and the person who is adjacent to
Speaker 1: hunting but does not hunt, has a much lower understanding
Speaker 1: of how regulated hunting actually works in this country. So
Speaker 1: they don't know that there's biological surveys and there's an
Speaker 1: understanding of population health and density, whether it's on the
Speaker 1: growth or the decline, and then our tags are issued
Speaker 1: in accordance with those numbers. They furthermore don't understand that
Speaker 1: tags represent opportunity and they don't just represent a dead animal.
Speaker 1: So ask people where they're at, what their knowledge level
Speaker 1: is is. Don't call them stupid for not knowing. You know,
Speaker 1: I am adjacent to the game of golf. I know
Speaker 1: people who do it, I have done it on occasion.
Speaker 1: There are golf courses around here. I don't truly understand
Speaker 1: the rules and regulations of golf. Okay, just an example.
Speaker 1: Moving on to the cutlery desk, Chinese scientists have uncovered
Speaker 1: stone cutting tools that significantly revise our understanding of what
Speaker 1: our early human ancestors were capable of. The particular hominin
Speaker 1: in question here is Homo juliensis a species that existed
Speaker 1: from about three hundred thousand years ago to about fifty
Speaker 1: thousand years ago, primarily in Asia. This is the same
Speaker 1: approximate timeframe as Neanderthals, but scientists had until now assumed
Speaker 1: that life was much more basic for these relatives of ours,
Speaker 1: and that they hadn't developed sophisticated tool making. This is
Speaker 1: like a typical human thing where we always like to
Speaker 1: assume we are so much more advanced than anybody who
Speaker 1: came before us. Recent discoveries of napped cutting tools right
Speaker 1: napping is where you're whacking rocks against each other to
Speaker 1: get a shape and surface to perform the job that
Speaker 1: you want. Napped cutting tools seemed to disprove this theory,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately, you can't carbon date stone, and so scientists
Speaker 1: didn't know exactly when the tools had been made. However,
Speaker 1: there's more than one way to skin a cat or
Speaker 1: a Pleistocene cat to tell how old those tool is
Speaker 1: that may have been used for skin and cats. Alongside
Speaker 1: the cutting tools, archaeologists found butchered rib bones from an
Speaker 1: ungulate species. Inside those bones, calcite crystals had grown, and
Speaker 1: those crystals contain radioactive elements that degrade on a very
Speaker 1: precise schedule. By measuring the distinct isotopes remaining in those crystals,
Speaker 1: scientists were able to date the cuts in the bones
Speaker 1: back to one hundred and forty six thousand years ago.
Speaker 1: This was the middle of a severe ice age in
Speaker 1: what's now China, and so along with preparing food to eat,
Speaker 1: it's possible that these tools were used to make warm
Speaker 1: clothing out of animal skins even that far back in
Speaker 1: the place to scene, even for humans other than Homo sapiens,
Speaker 1: necessity was very much the mother of invention and still is.
Speaker 1: Moving on to the crime desk, we've been coming across
Speaker 1: quite a few mind numbing poaching cases in recent weeks.
Speaker 1: Here's a lineup of what wildlife crooks have been up
Speaker 1: to around the country. In Montana, Tennessee, resident Jerry tray
Speaker 1: true At the third received a lifetime hunting and fishing
Speaker 1: ban after multiple incidents of blatantly breaking wildlife laws in
Speaker 1: the Treasure State. He pled guilty to the obstruction of
Speaker 1: justice using someone else's hunting license poaching waterfowl, the unlawful
Speaker 1: possession of wildlife a turkey and a sand hill crane,
Speaker 1: poaching a cow, elk and a white tailed dough and more.
Speaker 1: Lifetime hunting and fishing bands are rare, but in this
Speaker 1: case it certainly seems well deserved. Not that old Jerry
Speaker 1: tray true at the third seems to give damn about
Speaker 1: having a license or not. Hopefully this is a deterrent.
Speaker 1: Sticking with waterfowl poaching, two endangered whooping cranes were illegally
Speaker 1: shot and killed by crawfish farmers in Louisiana. If you
Speaker 1: didn't know, Louisiana is the site of a serious whooping
Speaker 1: crane reintroduction effort, as the super cool birds are otherwise
Speaker 1: extremely rare in the wild. The recent incidents put a
Speaker 1: dent in that effort. However, Considering the poached cranes, which
Speaker 1: were born in the wild represent two and a half
Speaker 1: percent of the state's whooping crane population, which is around
Speaker 1: eighty birds in total, it's a really big deal. This
Speaker 1: is an ongoing thing in Louisiana. I dug into the
Speaker 1: let's call it the socio economics of this. The poaching
Speaker 1: takes place in like extremely extremely economically depressed areas to
Speaker 1: where there is a real idea of I don't know,
Speaker 1: admonition adversarial circumstances here, okay, where you have folks who
Speaker 1: are making a living picking crawfish and that whooping crane
Speaker 1: is out there picking crawfish that you could be selling,
Speaker 1: which is pretty trivial, I think it is, for sure.
Speaker 1: But it's also pretty widespread knowledge that that bird is
Speaker 1: getting millions of dollars pumped into it to try to
Speaker 1: make it prolific once again. And I think that just
Speaker 1: socially really rubs people the wrong way. What they're doing
Speaker 1: is not right, not justifiable in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 1: But it's always important to understand where people are coming from,
Speaker 1: no matter if you're on their side of the issue
Speaker 1: or not. What has been done in many, many places,
Speaker 1: because this story is not new. You can take the
Speaker 1: snow leopard or species like that in pov rister or
Speaker 1: hard living spots, and it's easy to see why somebody
Speaker 1: would poach them and try to sell their pelt or
Speaker 1: meat or whatever it is. The thing that has worked
Speaker 1: right is finding ways mechanisms to put money in the
Speaker 1: pockets the of people who are adversarial with this species,
Speaker 1: and that can be through tourism or providing information on
Speaker 1: how the species is doing. Little citizen science work, all
Speaker 1: sorts of things to inject a little bit of humor
Speaker 1: back in here. There's a great bar or used to
Speaker 1: be a got swept away by a hurricane. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it was the lazy flamingo or the lazy pelican.
Speaker 1: But it works here. For storks and cranes. You know
Speaker 1: how they like to stand on one foot, lazy one
Speaker 1: stand on two feet. The US Department of Justice announced
Speaker 1: charges for a Louisiana man who poached and sold over
Speaker 1: seventeen hundred loggerhead musk turtles, one hundred striped neck musk turtles,
Speaker 1: and fifteen striped mud turtles. The outlaw took the turtles
Speaker 1: from the wild in Florida and then quote aided and
Speaker 1: embedded a co conspirator who exported the turtles to Taiwan,
Speaker 1: falsely claiming they were captive bred to obtain export permits.
Speaker 1: In some the totals were estimated to be worth over
Speaker 1: half a million bucks in the Asian pet trade. The
Speaker 1: suspect was charged with violating the Lacy Act, which criminalizes
Speaker 1: the trade and sale of wildlife across state lines. He
Speaker 1: faces up to five years in jail and two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars in fines for each charge. For
Speaker 1: those who question whether the Lacy Act is valid, great
Speaker 1: history lesson here, right. This is a fantastic example of
Speaker 1: why monetizing wildlife is not good. Yeah, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: transferable landowner tags on the open market. It's not a
Speaker 1: jump over. In California, wardens thought something was crabby, and
Speaker 1: they were right. They cited two poachers for harvesting three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one striped shore crabs two hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty one crabs over the limit from a beach in
Speaker 1: San Luis Obispo. Neither criminal had a valid fishing license either.
Speaker 1: They reportedly attempted to hide one of their bags of
Speaker 1: crabs by wrapping a sweatshirt around it. Suffice it to
Speaker 1: say that didn't work. Apparently, the word poaching doesn't just
Speaker 1: apply to fish in animals, but vegetation too. This one
Speaker 1: comes to us from the San Francisco Chronicle, which reports
Speaker 1: that park rangers in Humboldt Redwood State Park have made
Speaker 1: several arrests in recent months of folks illicitly chopping up
Speaker 1: and removing dead redwood trees from the public's land. A
Speaker 1: recent case involved a Dodge Ram pickup truck and hasn't
Speaker 1: been solved, according to the California Department of Fish and Wildlife. Quote,
Speaker 1: in addition to the removal of a log that would
Speaker 1: provide hundreds of years of crucial nutrients to the forest,
Speaker 1: the suspects are driving off road to get to the log,
Speaker 1: causing deep ruts and significant damage to the forest floor.
Speaker 1: Old growth redwood is extremely valuable and can garner five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for a twenty two pound slab. When I
Speaker 1: was over in Tennessee, I spoke with the landowner who
Speaker 1: ran into some tree poachers on his property. It's extremely lucrative,
Speaker 1: causes a lot of damage, and it's a real crime.
Speaker 1: There are also a couple of other unsolved cases that
Speaker 1: authorities are asking the public for help identifying the culprits.
Speaker 1: In in Michigan, five bald eagles were found dead on
Speaker 1: the Upper Peninsula and officials say that they were not
Speaker 1: killed by natural factors, predators, or vehicle strikes. Meanwhile, conservation
Speaker 1: offers in Saskatchewan are investigating the illegal killing of a
Speaker 1: black barsow and her cubs, which were all shot and
Speaker 1: left waste near Lorenzo, which about sixty miles northwest of Saskatoon.
Speaker 1: A committee in South Dakota recently shook up the state's
Speaker 1: elk hunting regulations. One of the changes might shock some folks.
Speaker 1: They decided to issue unlimited elk tags in the entire
Speaker 1: section of the state east of the Missouri River. If
Speaker 1: you're worried this would wipe out the entire wapity population there,
Speaker 1: well that's exactly what the committee is hoping for. The
Speaker 1: eastern part of the state is almost entirely private land,
Speaker 1: which is heavily used for agg Officials say that they
Speaker 1: don't want to have any crop damage from elk there.
Speaker 1: As a South Dakota Gamefish and Parks spokesperson told their
Speaker 1: friends over at Outdoor Life, quote, we're issuing the tags
Speaker 1: to try and nip a potential problem in the bud.
Speaker 1: Elk or a fantastic big game animal that are welcome
Speaker 1: in every other part of the state, but the fact
Speaker 1: is we just can't tolerate having them in eastern South Dakota.
Speaker 1: As per usual for any of this tickles your fancy
Speaker 1: and I hope it does right into askcal that's ascaltemeateater
Speaker 1: dot com. We'd love to hear what you think. Last
Speaker 1: on today's docket, the New York Times reported on a
Speaker 1: document that was leaked from the Department of the Interior
Speaker 1: that showed some potential changes to liberalize hunting rules on
Speaker 1: some public lands, such as reducing or eliminating prohibitions such
Speaker 1: as firing guns across trails and cleaning game in public restrooms.
Speaker 1: The changes were the result of Secretary Bergram's Order three
Speaker 1: four four seven, which sought to expand hunting and fishing
Speaker 1: access across public lands. Thinking about how to reduce red
Speaker 1: tape for hunters and anglers is a good thing, though
Speaker 1: we also shouldn't rush to eliminate important safety regulations, which
Speaker 1: you know, there's state regulations in place. There's also the
Speaker 1: Code of Hunter Ethics and Conduct, right. We cover this
Speaker 1: all the time just because it's legal domain, right, And
Speaker 1: this secretarial order typically comes with some language that says
Speaker 1: you don't like where appropriate. So I know a lot
Speaker 1: of news outlets are going crazy on this one. Not us,
Speaker 1: By god. There's a lot of things happening on the
Speaker 1: federal level. There was the rescinding of the Public Lands Rule,
Speaker 1: which is a super bummer for everybody out on the landscape, grazers, hunters, anglers,
Speaker 1: people who just want to know the value of an
Speaker 1: acre of public land. The Public Lands Rule would have brought.
Speaker 1: Those conservation values are ecosystem services that are not recognized
Speaker 1: in the same fashion as oil, gas, mineral extraction are.
Speaker 1: This is something that's needed, quite honestly, it's a very bipartisan,
Speaker 1: non partisan ask to properly be able to understand the
Speaker 1: value of an acre of America's public ground. This is
Speaker 1: a highly politicized thing that came in under the Biden
Speaker 1: era and great example of a political football not in
Speaker 1: our best interest. Additionally, we are getting closer to the
Speaker 1: public comment period that will allow us to weigh in
Speaker 1: on the roadless Rule. We've covered the roadless rule many,
Speaker 1: many times. There's a great interview episode with Chris Wood
Speaker 1: from tu right here on this year podcast that you
Speaker 1: should definitely look up. Roadless rule is a fantastic protection
Speaker 1: mechanism that has not a damn thing to do with
Speaker 1: lumber or really nothing to do with fire suppression. As
Speaker 1: long as it works the way it should, I think
Speaker 1: Montana is a great example of the roadless rule working
Speaker 1: as it's written, because we do a lot of fire
Speaker 1: mitigation and habitat work within roadless areas. And the reason
Speaker 1: that I say like it's not dealing with timber is
Speaker 1: because a lot of our inventory roadless areas do not
Speaker 1: contain marketable timber, and a lot of our inventoried roadless
Speaker 1: areas are in areas that do not have timber. They're
Speaker 1: above tree line. They also protect typically like those spawning areas,
Speaker 1: are cool water reserves and areas of rest for a
Speaker 1: big game species. They do like to bed and chill
Speaker 1: out away from road and trail traffic. That is an
Speaker 1: absolute fact and something that we know. So if you're
Speaker 1: one of these folks who's like, ah, I need more
Speaker 1: roads for access so I can get to the big critters,
Speaker 1: I'm putting on my hal herring voice. That's a fun thought,
Speaker 1: it's just not a practical one. The more roads we punch,
Speaker 1: the less critters there will be where they'll be moving
Speaker 1: on to big chunks of private land where they don't
Speaker 1: get hassled. That's all I got for you this week.
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Speaker 1: me know what's going on in your next the woods.
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Speaker 1: your voice. Membership is what allows conservation groups to be
Speaker 1: independent regardless of politics. We focus on the policy attacking
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Speaker 1: Thanks again, we'll talk to you next week.