WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show: Empowering Parents with Tiffany Justice 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:09.440 Hi, and welcome back to Carol Markowitz show on iHeartRadio. 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:13.280 I opened a can of worms with my last monologue, 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.440 got so many notes about it. I talked about how, 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.560 while I think you should do everything you can to 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:26.040 make your close friendships and family relationships, of course transcend 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:31.320 political differences, I nevertheless think it makes sense to consider 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:36.440 political leanings when making new friends. Friendships made in adulthood 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:42.280 are already harder to make and maintain, just like romantic relationships. 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.320 In a lot of ways, it makes sense to have 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:50.080 values in common. Again, I have lots of liberal friends 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:51.520 that I would never discard. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.560 But would I run out to make more liberal friends 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:56.400 in my forties. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:02.240 I wouldn't. I got so many sad emails from people 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:06.200 all over the country who have had falling out with 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:11.560 friends and with family over political disagreements. To me, that 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:15.320 is a very different consideration. If you've had a lifelong 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.920 best friend, don't let that friendship end because you disagree 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:23.560 on politics. Clearly, you do share values, Clearly. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:24.760 You do have things in common. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:29.600 Don't let political fights tear you apart. This goes doubly. 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:30.280 So for family. 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.200 I heard from one mom who doesn't speak to her 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:38.440 daughter over political disagreement, it's just crushing. The thing is 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.520 that I do think the political realm matters, and I 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.399 think a lot of politics is very important. We have 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.480 a civilization to preserve. We've built an amazing country here 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.600 and we want to keep it. It's all pretty major, 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:56.280 but it's important to step back sometimes and see that 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.400 fighting with your mom, or your child or your best 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.559 friend won't actually move the needle to get to the. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.440 Country you want. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:09.440 Causing problems with your friends and family doesn't change the 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:14.600 results of elections. Convince people to your perspective, sure, but 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:19.320 be civil, insane about it, and put preserving the relationship 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.760 at the top of your priority list, even over winning arguments. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.160 If you've got thoughts, drop me an email Carol Maarcoit 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.880 Show at gmail dot com. It's Ka R O L 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.639 M A. R. Kowi CS and Charlie ZS and Zebra 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:39.760 Show at gmail dot com. Also, if you're looking for 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:45.080 a more political podcast, as this one is largely non political, 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.440 I have a new show I co host with my 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:52.239 good friend Mary Katherine Ham. It's called Normally and it 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.280 airs every Tuesday and Thursday. You could subscribe anywhere you 0:02:56.320 --> 0:03:00.560 get your podcasts. Coming up next and interview with Tiffany Justice. 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:02.320 Join us after the break. 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.640 Welcome back to the Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.760 guest today is Tiffany Justice, co founder of Moms for Liberty. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:15.960 Hi, Tiffany, so nice to have you on. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.800 Carol's so nice to see you. I'm in New York 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.639 and you're probably in my home state of Florida right now. 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.920 I am. I'm in Florida. How's New York going? 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.720 I got to speak at the Trump rally and Madison 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.440 Square Garden. I said the opening prayer, and Carol, there 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.280 were so many people there. There were like seventy thousand 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:38.280 people outside over twenty thousand inside the arena. It was 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:40.520 pretty awesome, amazing. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.720 I saw your invocation. It was beautiful. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:43.960 Are you all done? So? 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.360 It wasn't a Nazi rally. 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.560 In fact, was not a Nazi rally. There were many 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.720 Israeli flags actually being thrown in Madison Square Garden. It 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:53.480 was really beautiful. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.600 Yeah, it's funny because I think about that. I mean, 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.920 I think about it in two ways. One, obviously, a 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:05.280 Nazi rally probably wouldn't have Jews being open about their Judaism, 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.800 which to be real, the Democrats did not allow Jews 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:13.360 to be flaunting Israeli flags that they are rallies. But 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.159 the second thing is is how insulting it is to 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:18.040 non Jews also, I. 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.960 Mean just the fact that calling people who. 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.719 Go to a political rally Nazis is so below the belt. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.000 I mean, obviously right, but it's amazing. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.920 That it still goes on because you know it can't 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.560 be effective, and yet here we are. So how does 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.480 that How does it feel to be called a Nazi? 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.160 It's awful, actually, it's I think it's really an awful thing. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.680 And I think it's just the iron law of woke projection. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.040 As you said, you know, I mean, there are no 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.240 Israeli flags that I see flying in any of the 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.800 Democrat rallies that are happening. In fact, Kamala Harris said 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.800 to someone who you know, was talking about religion, you 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.200 must be at the wrong rally. So it was just 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.680 lovely to be able to say this invocation that really 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.880 was a beautiful message of unity and hope for the future. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.880 And that's what I saw in that room. I know 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.440 that the media wants to make you think that, you know, 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.479 it's all one type of person that's supporting President Trump, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.000 or even that all of President Trump's supporters are just 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.800 like him, but they're not. It's a really diverse group 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.800 of people that are coming together and Carol. When Elon 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:23.560 hit the stage, it was electric. The whole crowd was 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.719 roaring for him, and you could just tell how pratty 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:27.160 was to be up there. He had his son with 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.839 him and his mom to see his son watching him. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.000 It was pretty remarkable. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.000 I'm an aliens, Dan, I really am. 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:38.640 I feel like he's just such an interesting figure in 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:42.039 our current political moment. I think he doesn't have to 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.159 be doing what he's doing, and the fact that he 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.120 feels like he does have to is very interesting to me. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.280 But that brings me to you and the fact that 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:54.600 you get so much hate, so much animosity, so much 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.880 anger directed at you, and you don't have to be 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:58.360 doing this. 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:00.000 Why do you do it? 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.479 Yeah, we'd say to the haters, they can just take 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.040 a hike, you just brush it off. I do it 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.400 for my kids. I mean, I think it's for so 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.680 many moms. It's all of the moms for liberty that 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.080 are across the country. You know, we're watching what's happening 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:17.000 in America right now, and we're really concerned. We're worried 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.320 that our kids aren't going to have a bright future. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.360 In fact, Carol, sometimes I actually find myself not talking 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.360 about what it was like for me to grow up 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.880 and be a teenager in America going to college, because 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.760 it's so different now for kids. You know, I have 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:34.520 four children, nineteen, I'm almost seventeen, almost fifteen, and then thirteen. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.800 And you know, watching my nineteen year old daughter be 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.000 concerned about where is she going to live, well, you know, 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.640 she hears friends or graduating from college. They can't find 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.520 anywhere to live that they can afford. People are having 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.080 trouble finding jobs. So yeah, I mean, I do this 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.480 for my kids. I ran for school board in twenty sixteen. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.760 I had never been involved in politics. I had voted, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.800 but I wasn't even I wasn't a registered Republican at 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:00.039 the time. I had no party affiliation in Florida, and 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.279 I just felt like, okay, you know, it's somebody needs 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.200 to help to fix these schools. And then people were like, oh, 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.960 you should run for school board, And eventually I think 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:10.320 the question becomes why not you? 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:11.240 Right? 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.480 So I stepped up and ran and won and served 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.480 for four years on school board in my county. 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:20.360 So when I think about, like, why not you, I 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:21.560 get that, I really do. 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:22.160 But then I. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:26.720 Think it's just there's so much anger and just you know, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.480 hatred directed at you, and you could have picked an 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.240 easier path than you didn't. So I'm wondering, what do 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:38.400 you worry about most? What is your top concern and 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:40.080 that forced you into this. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.840 Life not doing something that was my top concern, not 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.160 doing something not you know, people sometimes say, oh, my gosh, 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.520 how do you sleep at night, And I'm like, well, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.080 I'm very tired because I work all the time, but 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.720 I'm not I sleep because I know that I'm doing 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.560 what I can do in this moment right now. I 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.720 really feel, Carol, that if we don't take a stand 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.760 and fight for America today, a children are going to 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:02.560 live on their knees for the rest of their life. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.240 And I will never look at my children and have 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.360 to say that I didn't do everything I could. So 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.040 moms are leaving it all out on the field. But 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.680 we are very much involved in this election cycle, from 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.280 school board all the way to the Oval office, and 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.640 we're going to make sure that every single person that's 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.400 getting elected is a liberty minded individual that is going 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.840 to stand in defense of our fundamental parental rights. And 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.120 those are rights the government doesn't give you. It is 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.160 a god given right. You know. The government doesn't grant 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.400 you your parental rights, and they certainly can't just take 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.880 them away. You don't have the right to abuse your kids, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.000 like you can't cut off their healthy body parts for example, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.440 normally right, right, But you know, the government needs to 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.960 respect the American parent and it's our job to draw 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.440 that boundary and to push the government out of our homes. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.680 Are you still optimistic about America's future? 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.520 I am very optimistic. I have four kids. I have 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.000 to be, you know. But I am optimistic because I 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.679 saw so many people coming together at Medicine Square Garden 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.880 and all over the country, and the age range is 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.080 really interesting. There are a lot of young people that 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:11.120 are really getting energized. And I'll always be optimistic because 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.360 I brought four children into this world and they deserve 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.839 for me to fight like health right. 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.319 I was feeling pessimistic in New York, and I'm generally 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:23.680 an optimistic person. I'm super bullish on America always. But 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.439 that's partly why we had to move is because I 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.520 lost that optimism. But I wasn't feeling like my kid's 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.600 future was in a good place in New York. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.319 And I feel much better in Florida. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.160 But I do still think about all those people who 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.160 live in, you know, places like New York, where I 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.880 don't know that that optimism is so easy to find. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:46.920 I think COVID was horrible. I mean, I read your columns. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.040 You and I are both moms. We went through that. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.080 I watched my own children's stagnate when schools were closed 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.360 in Florida, and then I was on school board and 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.839 we fought really, really hard to get schools back open. 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.680 And I think Florida really led, you know, Ronda Santis 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.559 led in that moment and showed the rest of the 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.880 country that it didn't have to be like it was 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:05.920 in New York. You know. I think New York masked 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.959 toddlers the longest of any place in the entire United States. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.720 And the thing is, Carol, never again, I will never 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.800 again allow children to be treated like that. I will 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.280 fight until my death before I will ever again allow 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.840 adults to put themselves before what our kids need. 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.880 Right, we learned some important lessons during that time. 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.840 So what's interesting is this election season has been a 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:34.079 gender battle, right. The media is constantly pushing this idea 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.439 that Donald Trump appeals to men and Kamala Harris appeals 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:41.280 to women, and it's a real divide. But you represent women, right, 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.400 Moms for liberty, moms are women still? 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:44.880 I think? 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.480 So, do you see that divide or is that just 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.280 something that's kind of overblown. 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.680 I think it's manufactured to a certain degree. I do 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.959 think there's a large amount of women that were sold 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.080 a lie. I think there were sold a lie that 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.719 said that somehow freedom and liberty equated to being able 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.000 to your baby, and I think that's a lie. Being 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.240 a mother and a wife is a wonderful thing. We 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.600 see young girls not wanting to grow up to be women, 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.120 deciding that maybe they were born in the wrong body. 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.800 Seeing these girls cut off healthy body parts or sterilize themselves. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.160 So I think as women, we have to take a 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.160 really hard look in the mirror and see if we're 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.439 being positive role models and we're showing and talking about 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.760 how wonderful it is to be a mom, to be 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.280 a wife. Yeah, it's hard, you know, There's no doubt 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.400 there were times when I had, you know, four kids 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.280 under the age of ten and probably babies split up 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.840 in my hair that try to get dinner on the table. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.320 That it was hard, but it's the joy of my life. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.720 And I just think we need to start investing in 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.040 our marriages, in our relationships, talking more about what you know, 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.760 how wonderful it is to be married again, that's a 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.680 I've been married twenty years. It's not always the easiest, really, 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.400 you know, relationship you bring two people together and you 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.880 have children, and you know, we're two different people, right, 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.960 we have different opinions about things, but we work on 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:59.520 our marriage and being a mom is so rewarding. So 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.040 I think that we just need to stand together and 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.839 we need to give each other grace, but also create 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:07.959 the space for people to change their minds, because I 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.000 think there were a lot of people within the Democrat 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.800 Party who are finding that the Democrat Party really doesn't 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.520 represent them anymore. You know, they think, well, I want 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.760 everyone to feel safe and included. Of course we all do, right, 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.440 But you know, I was fine with abortion when it 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.760 was safe, legal and rare, and now all of a sudden, 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.320 I think Democrats see people celebrating an abortion, They're like 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.480 wait a second, that's not That's not the party that 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:31.319 I'm a part of. It. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:32.800 I think that's not what I signed up for. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.599 That's not what I said for. So yeah, so I 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.720 think we just need to create this space for people 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.800 to change their minds. I also think what I saw 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.080 at Madison Square Garden, which was interesting, was the fact 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:46.360 that not everyone agreed with everything that every single speaker 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.559 on stage said. I don't think that there were things 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.480 that were said that you know, obviously there were jokes 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.079 that were made, but jokes are supposed to be funny, right, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.720 you know, people at the jokes. There was a lot 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.840 of laughter. But I also think that people got up 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.560 and spoke and there wasn't anything that was offensive to 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.040 anyone in the room that they said, Okay, this is 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.000 a deal breaker for me. But I think there are 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.559 different ideas about the way that the Republican Party moves forward. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.400 For example, President Trump was on Joe Rogan and he 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.319 was talking about RFK, and he was like, he's got 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.120 a lot of great ideas. I want to make America 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.760 healthy again, but he's not so good on the liquid gold. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:17.079 Right. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:18.840 We're not going to let him touch the oil and 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.800 gas and I think that that's kind of the way 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.600 the Republican Party is going to move forward. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.120 It's interesting that he does kind of call people out, 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.280 even in his own circle, and say I don't like 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:28.800 them on that. 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.199 I appreciate that because I don't like RFK on that either. 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.160 So we'll see if that, you know, what he ends 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:36.840 up doing with that. 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.679 What do you say to women who are Trump curious 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.200 but feel a lot of pressure to line up with 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:43.920 the Democrats. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:45.720 I think they need to go look at the platform. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.360 I think they need to go look at their Republican 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.199 Party platform. It was sixteen pages, it was bullet point, 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.120 very easy to look at. Go through, bring a red 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.720 pen out and circle everything that you have a problem with, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.280 and I think you're going to find that you agree 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.480 with more than you disagree with. Go look up Agenda 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.320 forty seven and on the president's website and see what 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.040 he stands for, and then really ask yourself, is am 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.840 I against President Trump? Or am I against this person 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.920 that the media has wanted me to hate. So that's 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.360 really my message to women. Don't listen to the hype, 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.600 take the time to do the research, make up your 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.960 own mind, ask questions, watch interviews, that he's done. I 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.680 mean three hours on Joe Rogan. He did not hold back. 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.560 You know, it's very hard to fake your fake being 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.640 someone that you're not for three hours, right, maybe fifteen minutes, 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.200 but three hours is a long interview. And so I 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.920 just ask people to take a step back and watch 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.520 and listen and check out the bullet points and see 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.480 what they disagree with. And if they disagree with stuff, 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:42.960 then let's have a conversation about it. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.360 We'll be right back with more from Tiffany Justice, but first, 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:51.400 in today's world, where rising crime threatens families, violent crimes 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:55.800 are now taking place every twenty six seconds. 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He really does 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.480 not like windmills and it's not a put on and 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.280 it's not a political point for him. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.120 He has, you know, aesthetic problems with them, but he also. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.760 Thinks that they're damaging to animals and you could just 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:20.760 feel it and see it in the way that he 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:24.160 talks about it. I was really hoping that Kamala Harris 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.880 would do a Joe Rogan interview too, because I'd love 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:28.520 to hear who is she? 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:29.840 Who is she? 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.560 She got to skip a primary and got to not 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:33.320 do any of that. 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.360 We never really find out. 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.760 Who is Kamala Harris, And if she's elected on Tuesday, 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.040 it's worrisome that we don't really know her. 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.640 She's a vessel for a lot of woke ideology. And 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.880 I think this progressive far left ideology that we're seeing 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.120 all across America, these progressive far left ideas, and so 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.600 I when you say who is she, I think she's 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.360 been manufactured. I think she said she agreed to do 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.480 Joe Rogan, but she would only do it for an hour, 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.160 and she didn't want to do it in Austin. He 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.000 had to come to her. And you know, I mean, 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.960 just you want to be the president of the United States. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.320 I want to be the leader of the free world. 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.960 The rest of the world is looking at America. You know, 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:14.879 Tina and I do a lot of interviews, and we 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.439 do international interviews as well, and there's been a lot 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.320 of interest from Japan, and we were wondering. I said, 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.600 you know, why is Japan so interested in Moms for Liberty. 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.200 You've come over here and visited our chapters and you've 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.280 spent a lot of time with us. And the reporter 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.359 said that Japan is very worried because they're watching America's 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.000 light dim And so I think we need to remember 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.800 is the fact that you know, America is important for Americans, 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.080 but American leadership is important for the rest of the 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.800 world as we move forward, and Kamala Harris wants to 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.160 represent us on the world stage, and I don't think 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.720 she's doing a very good job convincing Americans to vote 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:48.879 for her. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:50.280 Right. 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:51.120 I hear all the. 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.480 Time from people in other countries that they're worried that 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.679 they're like a decade or so behind America with the 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.400 woke nonsense, Like they're seeing it develop in their schools. 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.879 They're seeing, you know, the trans thing blow up in 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.520 their elementary schools, for example, and they're like, whoa, We're 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.399 heading in the same direction as them, Like, how do 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:08.240 we cut this off? 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.680 Sometimes they can, sometimes I'm not so sure that they'll 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:12.159 be able to. 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.879 Yeah, it's a global movement, and I think that's what 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.119 people in America need to understand as well. There's a 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.880 lot of outside pressure from the World Economic Forum, from 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.040 the United Nations and UNESCO, you know, the World Health 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:28.160 Organization underneath the United Nations. There's a lot of pressure 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.000 on the United States to conform and to really lose 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.440 our sovereignty as a nation, and that is very concerning. 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:39.040 We see that in our American public schools. UNESCO and 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.560 the United Nations are really brought into our schools by 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.280 the teachers' unions in America. And that's why I feel 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.399 so adamant about the fact that we do need to 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.480 dismantle and abolish the Department of Education, because the teachers' 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:55.360 unions have such a firm hold on education in America 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.399 and they use the federal government to do that. And 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.720 so we need to be very clear about the fact 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.240 that America needs to lead in the world, that we 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.840 don't need to take our direction on pandemic response or 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.960 education from YONESCO or the WHO. And I'm confident that 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.160 President Trump will do that unapologetically. 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:14.520 Do you think he really gets rid of the Department 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.240 of Education. I mean, I obviously would love that. 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.320 I just I don't have faith that it's possible. 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.240 I just think our government is too big and no 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.480 one person can can make that kind of change. 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.880 I think there are absolutely things that we can do. 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:30.600 I think that there are parts of the Department of 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.800 Education that need to stop. I think there are parts 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:34.800 of the Department of Education that need to be brought 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.000 down and go back into the States. And then I 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:38.800 think there are parts of the Department of Education that 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.800