WEBVTT - Coping, Doping and Divorcing 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:06.320 Hi, Welcome to Desperately Devoted, the Ultimate Desperate Housewives rewatch 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:10.360 hosted by me, Terry Hatcher, my on screen daughter Andrea Bowen, 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:12.760 and my real life daughter Emerson Tenney. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.520 Welcome back to Desperately Devoted. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:20.080 Our conversation about season one, episode seven, Anything you Can Do. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.560 We are jumping back in at an incredible place in 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.239 the story seeing of redeeming themselves while Lynette in the 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.600 park trying, is strung out in the park like and 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.640 she looks awful. 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:39.000 Yeah, that is true. 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:42.800 Felicity is committed to and playing this character would be 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.560 so well. And it is hilarious to see the kids 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:49.960 running around on the jungle gym and she is giving 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.320 I kept thinking of Timothy Shalome and a beautiful boy 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.240 where he is like heroin addict. But of course it's 0:00:58.280 --> 0:00:59.520 about kids, Ady d. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.320 But she is she's needing her fixed. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.360 Yeah, she is jones ing, yes, and she shot down. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.000 The threat at the end. Yeah. Well, when girl scouts come, 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.640 when girl Scout Clickie comes, just don't come to my door, 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:11.920 you know, I know, it's. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:17.200 Like such a week week she could possibly leverage any 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:18.080 amount of power. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.480 But it leads her into scheduling a play eight with 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:25.959 another neighborhood boy basically to essentially try and get some 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.040 of that child's add medication. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:29.520 That's a pretty big low. 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.640 Which I have to say in this scene. 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.720 The second the scene popped up, I screamed out loud 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:41.120 because the boy's mom in this guest star character is 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:45.000 Terry Walters, who is my dad's sister in law. Oh 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:49.360 my gosh, I know what I obviously. I mean, I've 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.160 known her for many many years in my life and 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.200 love her. And this was in two thousand and four. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:58.520 I was like, what a small world overlap. I never 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.960 knew that she was an actress, or I knew she 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.120 was an actress, but I just never knew that she 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.240 was in Desperate Housewives. And I has never come up. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.080 And I don't even know she remembers it. It's such 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:13.280 a small moment. I imagine she would remember it. But I 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.200 was I was laughing out loud that this is who 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.080 is playing the character of the mom that Lenna steals 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:27.440 the pills gry wool. 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.120 That wild, wild, small world. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:30.000 Okay, So I had a moment that I thought was 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.480 really like stop. You talk about being like stopped by 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.440 a surprise. I was stopped because I thought this might 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.480 I don't know if this is going to be relevant 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.560 to you guys, But okay, So when Rex and Bury 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:46.600 are in this dinner scene and they're telling the kids 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:51.040 that they're getting divorced, and you know, sort of talking 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:55.280 about what that might be like, and the Sun says, 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:57.720 can I live with dad? 0:02:58.480 --> 0:02:59.120 So quickly? 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:06.720 And I mean you just see the world fall out 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:13.880 from underneath Breeth like it. It just wasn't ever a 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:18.200 consideration that she somehow wasn't a good enough mother or 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:25.840 to be able to hold her son's affection, and so 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.920 that not only is her marriage falling away, but her 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.519 children are falling away too. It's really I mean really 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.560 I had to stop the TV there too because it 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.920 was and I'm really grateful. I don't I don't have 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.520 that experience with you. I think, you know, we're really close, 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.400 and but I think a lot of people do. Yeah. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:48.200 I think I think a lot of people have. I mean, 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.200 I have a pretty distant relationship, even though I spend 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.320 a lot of my life taking care of my parents. 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.720 Do I think emotionally there is a lot of distance there. 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.120 You know. It's not that there's not a it's not 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.320 a loving support system. It's a it's a well, not 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.520 reciprocally reciprocally any I guess. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.240 I mean, And I think that's the interesting thing also 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:13.000 about the idea of divorce when kids are teenagers or 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.440 starting you know, older in middle school and high school, 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.200 that you don't really consider when parents get divorced, Like 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.040 the age that I was when you got divorced. 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:22.480 You know, I was five and a half. 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.240 Of course, you know you both you and my dad 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.559 were great parents, and there was never a question about 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.599 I was going to spend time with both of you, 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:33.080 equal time with both of you. But when your kids 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:39.480 are autonomous ish teenagers, they have their own perceptions about 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.479 who they think is to blame or who, and you know, 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:42.799 they're obviously I think. 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:46.039 And there's a child in their schools or maybe certain programs, 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:50.640 or certainly for a young boy who's getting into his 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.440 going to strip clubs, he's getting into his sexual kind 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.640 of awakening. Maybe he wants to be around more masculinity 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:01.600 and wants to be around his dad, all super legit things. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:03.919 But I just know I do have some friends that 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.120 are still having their kids go off to college for 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.120 the first time. Oh and even though it's not in 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.520 a sad way the way this this particular family a 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:17.200 Breon Rex dynamic is. But it's still it's a it's 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.160 a loss, it's a it's a it's a grief. It's 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.920 an empty nesting thing. Yeah, and I don't know. So 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:24.919 this scene really got me. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:26.320 Yeah, and it is hard. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.599 It's hard to see how how as Emerson mentioned that 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.480 line is at the kind of at the beginning of 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.280 the scene. And you can imagine knowing Breeze character by 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.919 now that she's given this conversation a lot of thought 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.240 and consideration of how she's going to handle it, how 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.880 it's going to go, what's the best way of presenting 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.359 this news to them, and then she is sidelined so 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:50.039 quickly with that level of hurt of heart pain, direct 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:53.279 heart pain. And then it kind of builds because she 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.560 asks Danielle shout out to Joy, who I'm very close 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.240 with still and absolutely adore. 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:01.840 But but she yeah, she's. 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.240 So great and and you know, then she says to Danielle, 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.960 do you feel that way? And Danielle says, I don't 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.040 really care as long as I have my own bathroom. 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.680 And it's it's like a doubling up of we. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:17.440 Not only don't you know, are not choosing you, but 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.719 we don't even you know, in this case, Danielle doesn't 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:23.200 even care. And oh gosh, yeah, my heart really hurt 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:24.640 for Brion that scene as well. 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.240 I just yeah, and it made me wonder about I mean, 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.119 especially about her daughter, because we've seen all of Bree's 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.880 conflict with her son and obvious maybe reasons why he 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.440 would not want to be living with her, but the 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:40.680 level of kind of apathy that her daughter seems to 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.240 have about where she's going to be living made me 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.640 just think a lot about how what are the ways 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:50.080 that we guard ourselves against painful scenarios? You know, it 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.320 seems like her daughter has put up such a huge 0:06:53.800 --> 0:07:00.159 dissociative wall around even addressing the fact that there's a 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.400 lot of hurt and pain and confusion in her relationship 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.440 with her mom, to the point where instead of being 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.960 able to respond with any level of emotion, she goes, well, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.720 I just want to make sure I'm own the bathroom, which. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.560 Feels really honest, but you're right about the psychology that 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.520 comes behind it. I mean, I don't know, what do 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:22.760 you do? I think I'm i error in deep hurt 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.520 in putting up walls. Yeah, and I and I say 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.320 that it's I say that it's I wish I had 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.160 a different tool like I wish I was when I'm 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.600 very hurt, which I think it takes actually kind of 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.360 a lot to get me really hurt. But I think 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:42.480 once you do, I think it's I think that's my 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.920 protective thing is like a wall, and it's I don't 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.920 it's not great because it because it means that I 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.840 just can't communicate anymore. But it's just too much pain, 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:52.400 I think. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.800 I think, Yeah, it's interesting how separation seems to be 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.560 a common coping mechanism and whether that's defensiveness, whether that's 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.520 just going inside oneself or whatever it is. 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.240 I had an illuminating moment in. 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.720 My life when my sister Gillian pointed out to me 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:12.080 that when I'm confronted with big feelings, whether that be 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.880 anger or sadness or overwhelm. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.160 That I go to sleep. Oh wow, And she. 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:19.760 That seems like a positive tool. 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:20.400 Maybe it is. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.760 I mean, it's positive for my under eyeback opposite. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:27.080 Right now. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.200 Yeah, And I think it's a combination of things. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.120 I think it allows my brain, which gets really crowded 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.320 to just shut off for a few hours, and it 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.320 also is a time passer inherently, you know. And then 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.800 it gives some space because when I wake up, I've 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:41.319 had built in space. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:43.679 And I also think maybe the surge of. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.840 Emotions I feel does make me exhausted, and then I 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:48.960 just decide to turn turn off and tune out by 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:49.520 going to sleep. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.320 That's so interesting. Do you have what's your Do you 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:53.400 think you have a pattern? 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:54.080 I love that. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:54.440 Yeah. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:59.080 I mean I think I go to like I like 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.200 a like a If I'm really really frustrated about something, 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.679 I will I will scream along to Meg the Stallion's 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:11.520 hiss no, and then maybe like go for a run. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.280 I like to have some sort of physical release. I'm 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:19.040 also really big on I think I maybe if I 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:23.680 shut down, I just sit on top of the feelings 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.679 that I'm feeling. But I also don't believe in being reactive. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.959 Like I recognize I can be hurt and that's not 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.240 always the best time to respond immediately to the person 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.880 that's hurt you. So I am a big proponent of 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.600 when I'm really upset about something, write a letter, which 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.840 actually Meg the Stallion says at the end of Hiss 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.719 but that's not where I got the idea from. 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:53.440 I writing a letter. I write, don't you the person? 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.480 I write a letter to the person, and sometimes it 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.840 can go on for pages, and I use every every 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:03.000 explicit word, like every way. Would never actually talk to someone, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.640 but all of the feelings that I'm feeling, get them 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:12.280 out onto paper, set it aside, do nothing about. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.720 It for the day, and then the next day, after 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:20.679 you've slept, you know, maybe reapproach it. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.319 What part of these emotions do I actually need to 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:28.559 communicate to get something out of this exchange? Which of 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.360 these emotions are just reactive? And it's good that they're 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:32.840 in the letter and I got them out, but I'm 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.160 certainly not going to share them. Or is there actually 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.040 nothing that I'm gonna get from confronting this person? That's 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.640 great because sometimes there isn't. Sometimes as much as you 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.240 maybe want to make someone know that they were wrong 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:50.719 or they hurt you, there's not actually an objective to 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:51.160 be gained. 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.320 Yeah, yeah, that's pretty wise. Emerson. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:07.120 We've been building to the iconic scene that is now 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.800 a gift? Is it gift for Jiff? 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:11.720 I think it is Giff. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:16.040 It's it's Giff. We're getting we're getting feedback from the room. 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.800 Is the peanut butter gift? Is the imaging? 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:27.080 Yes? Okay, well, okay, so things culminate at Saddle Ranch, 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.160 and I think it's hilarious that it's at Saddle Ranch 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:34.839 and it's called Saddle Ranch, which is because Westeria Lane 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.280 exists in a place that is nowhere, you know, it 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:42.080 is like in America until they're calling out an iconic 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.960 place in West Hollywood in Los Angeles by its own 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:45.920 actual name. 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:47.000 Okay, so let's set this up. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:47.640 Let's set this up. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.400 So we have we know that we've got Kendra, the 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.959 mysterious new hot chick who's checking up with Mike. We 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.360 have the first date that didn't happen with Susan. 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:02.680 And he makes mince meat out of susan humiliation. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:07.679 Then Edie tips Susan off that Mike is headed to 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.439 Saddle Ranch with this mysterious Kendra. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.640 And she kind of and invites Susan. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.679 They go together, which is leading me to a comment 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.960 we've gotten from a listener. Okay, it was on Spotify. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.679 They didn't even write directly in Camilla I believe is 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:31.280 her name. Hi, Camilla, I loved your Spotify comment, and 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.199 now I will talk about it. I'm gonna paraphrase it. 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.000 But she said that she is rewatching the show for 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:41.199 the upteenth time, and she always thought that Susan and 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:46.319 Edie had romantic tension and would make a really good 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:51.160 romantic storyline. And then another woman responded to the comment 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:52.560 totally agree. 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.680 Oh wow, I just thought. 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.920 I mean, I know, this is obviously not where the 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.160 show goes, and maybe Hunting Wives picked up all the 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:08.000 missed lesbian opportunities from But I kind of love the 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.800 alternate universe we could live in where Susan and Edie 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.560 could go from rivals to lovers. 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.240 I love a rivals to lovers narrative. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:22.720 And everybody's been begging for a reboot. I haven't heard 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:27.560 a better suggestion than mad in twenty years. So yeah, 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.360 you know, are you out there? Oh my god, Lives 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:36.040 is leading the way Susan, And you know, I do know, 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.679 I mean, this is sidebar. I don't know anything about science, 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:45.480 but I do know quite a few women who after 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:50.319 fifty and after being married and after having children, have 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:51.720 fallen in love with women. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:14:01.200 Because it's great. As the resident, you know. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.760 You do seem awfully happy, which I'm very happy for you, 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.559 but don't you. But it is interesting, right that, like 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.839 at this point where maybe your postmenopausal. I don't know 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.480 if it's a hormonal thing. I don't know if these 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.080 friends of mine who've made these kinds of transitions, like 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.120 if they always felt that win they didn't know it, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.080 or or then it just a light bulb went off. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.640 But I'm just saying it is kind of a thing. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.240 Maybe it's enough that, like it's not just one person. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.600 I mean there, I guarantee you that some of our 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.360 audience you're laughing at me. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.160 Not some person. There are many there. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:42.840 I think could be. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.880 You know, you trust yourself more and more and more 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.480 as you get older, you you are more fearless, you're 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.320 more self accepting, your braver, You're I mean hopefully right, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.520 that's hopefully the trajectory we all follow as as humans 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.600 and as women, and so so maybe it's that and 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.520 and maybe there's a world in which somewhere out there, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.520 Susan and d are together now in the multiverse in 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:08.680 an alternate Timeline's. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.640 First of all, I love that listeners are writing in 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.400 on Spotify or anyway. I just I just over that, 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:20.080 and I love that I love you, and it kind 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.240 of goes off of what I was saying earlier without 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.320 the gay bent on it. But I I really think 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.280 I mean, and I don't know that it's like underestimated, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.080 because I do feel like Edie and Susan get into 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:38.000 some pretty fantastic uh adventures and antics over the next 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:42.120 number of episodes. But we probably could have leaned into 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.320 it more like I do think. I do think that 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:45.800 they could carry their own show. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.840 Yeah, the dynamic is so entertaining. 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.520 It's such an entertaining it's a little bit like ab fab. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:56.720 I could see it being like British. Yeah, I could 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.400 see it being like that total I mean, with different 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.320 but like that I've made my pitch mark and anybody 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.960 else listening to this we have on the show. We 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:09.640 love it. We have to go therapy first. We have 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:13.240 it'll be worth it anything for a job we have. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.720 We have Susan and Edie our favorite frenemies in Saddle Ranch, 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.920 where Mike is in fact there with Kendra and Susan 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.960 is immediately ten minutes into being there, she's like, I 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:24.520 should leave. 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.160 I'm embarrassed. I can't believe it. You talked me into this. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.920 We also over here, which obviously Susan does not yet 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.880 that Mike is with Kendra. They know each other because 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.760 he is looking for Kendra's sister, who was the last 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:39.800 seen at Saddle Ram. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.280 And Kendra is the daughter of the man that we've 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.800 met in prior episodes that clearly is a part Floyd. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.640 Mike too, yes to dig up why neighborhood? 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:48.880 Yeah? 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.920 Why is he really on Mysteria Lane? And then Mike 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:58.280 spots Susan and I Love. They have a moment where, 0:16:58.360 --> 0:16:59.880 you know, he calls her out on being there, and 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.200 she tries to say she's just casually there, but he's 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.760 already found Edie and he's onto them. But while this 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:10.000 conversation is happening, and I need to know because a 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:11.560 part of me feels like this was. 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.240 Nicolette and this was not a stunt. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:18.640 Double Edi is in the background of the scene riding 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:23.560 this bull in the craziest, most sexual no hands. She 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:27.840 is riding the bull and I rode horses in the 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:32.960 same barn as Nicolette in Hidden Hills, and so I 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:37.800 know she's a great equestrian and great rider, and I thought, 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.399 I bet she's doing her own stuff. 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.600 She absolutely did that I mean again, I'm not sure 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.800 I remember it, but from looking at it, it looks 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:54.120 it's her. She is a great horseman, ship horsemen rider. Okay, yeah, 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.119 and so I'm and I'm and she loves that. I mean, 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.119 it's like in her bones. So I'm sure that that 0:17:59.320 --> 0:17:59.560 was her. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:00.800 She was great at it. 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:02.359 But I count I'm just going to go back to, 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.680 like even I'm going I go back to the real 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:10.400 Estate scene that Edie with Paul. She is portraying Edie 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:15.800 with such power and it stands out because it is 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:21.800 it is a a cog in the wheel of these 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.600 women that no one else has. You know, It's it's 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.920 not the way bri is playing it. It's not the 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.080 way Lynette is playing it. It's not the way Gabby 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:37.680 or Susan. It's a called for finishing kind of quintuplet quin. 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:42.240 Of of like like like she's needed, she's needed. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:43.879 She has such agency to. 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:48.520 Tell the story of the archetypes of women. And it 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.160 is why I will say I, you know, I don't 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.040 really get credited, but in the early days I was 0:18:55.359 --> 0:19:00.600 super championing her as the fifth housewife, and it really 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.280 did go back and forth, like on the posters, initially 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:05.680 it was the four of us, and like Mark Cherry 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.040 would sometimes be very much like, nope, it's four housewives. 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.800 It's definitely four housewives, only four housewives. And I think 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.520 that probably was hurtful, you know, like because but so 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.080 it is. It was like this flexing thing, and I 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.600 just felt like, this is an example of a scene 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.240 where she comes she just screams off the screen. 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.960 Oh my god, she's so just standing in her power 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.880 in every and not just because her thighs are so powerful. 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.200 Clearly they go the musody. 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:33.760 They are okay. 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.399 So, but have either of you ridden a bull one 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:37.280 of those types of bulls? 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.479 I haven't, And I have this weird sometimes I get 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.760 this incredibly strange overconfidence where I believe I will be 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.680 really good at something I've never done before and I'm not. 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:49.720 And I feel like bull riding falls into the category 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:51.880 of one of those things that I just in my body. 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:53.800 I'm like, yeah, it'd be great at that, And I am. 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:58.320 Sure if I ever even for one moment sat on 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.400 a mechanical ball, I would go lying across the room 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:03.359 and there's no way I would be good at it. 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.680 But I'm personally over confident about. 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.680 Thinking why you haven't done it, I think because you're like, 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:10.960 you know what, let me live with that fantas head 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:11.600 that that is. 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:12.960 I have also never done. 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:14.479 I have never been a bowl, but I have now 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.960 been a time for ranch a lot over over the area, 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.360 and now I can't. Yes, I have, and I think 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:24.880 I've canout this food that yes, okay, So this week, yeah, 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:28.639 so this week I took up the task of bringing 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:29.639 in that white element. 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:31.960 Okay, great, thanks thanks TV mom. 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.800 Yeah, I I took up the torch of of bringing 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.119 in an item inspired by this week's episode, and I 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:44.359 decided to make buffalo cauliflower in the style of buffalo wings, 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.359 which I feel like would have been served at a 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.200 place like Saddle Ranch, or is served in a place 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.880 like certainly is now, yes, certainly something I would have ordered. 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.280 And and so this is just, uh, you know, a 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:01.520 vegan or vegetarian or gluten free kind of spin on 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:05.960 chicken wings buffalo wings. This particular recipe is neither none 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:06.680 of those things. 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:07.720 Because it does have. 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.080 It's cauliflower, but it does have breadcrumbs, so there goes 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:14.840 the gluten free thing, and there's some butter in there, 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.440 so it does you know whatever but that's really good. 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:19.240 Yeah, is it good? Okay, I'm excited. 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.840 I also made a Greek yogurt style ranch dipping sauce 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.040 to go with it, as ranch would be. 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.399 It's it's really spicy. But I love this. 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:33.200 Okay, Yeah, I cannot morning. I'm just I'm still living 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.760 in saddle Ranch. Where Eadie gets. 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:41.800 Off of the bowl and then Susan says she commits 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.680 to the bit with Mike. She goes, no, I am here, 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.840 I'm here to ride the ball and she hops in 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.200 and she is so cute. She's oh, she's a tieing 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.840 up her little shirt and she gets over and she's 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:56.800