Speaker 1: What's that at the bullet back bed. It's spooky and
Speaker 1: joy I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm ghosted.
Speaker 1: As Mandas. Hey boo, it's me Roz Ooh you know,
Speaker 1: it's my favorite time of the month. It's time for
Speaker 1: a listener phone call extravaganza. So you know what to
Speaker 1: do if you want to be on one of these episodes,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure you're gonna listen today You're gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. I want to do that. Well, it's
Speaker 1: super easy. You just email ghosted by Roz at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com, put in the subject line listener episode, and
Speaker 1: then just give me some brief bullet points, like a
Speaker 1: sentence or two of the kinds of stories that you'd
Speaker 1: want to tell, and then we'll talk a little more. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well that's about it for me, because we have got
Speaker 1: an action packed episode this week filled with stories. So
Speaker 1: here we go, it's time for another listener phone call extravaganza.
Speaker 1: On with the show. Oh My God. Co from around
Speaker 1: the Pennsylvania Philadelphia area.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, how are you well? Thank you?
Speaker 1: You you know what, I'm great, CO. I am really
Speaker 1: excited to hear the oodles of stories that you have
Speaker 1: for me. What is this story about a woman without
Speaker 1: a face?
Speaker 3: Eyes without a face, no, just no face whatsoever. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's a story. I share this a lot, and
Speaker 3: I also kind of want to keep it a little
Speaker 3: bit vague, so I'm not going to give you a location.
Speaker 3: It happened around like twenty fifteen, but you know, just
Speaker 3: for like privacy reasons and things, don't. I don't want
Speaker 3: the space to be like known. So yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: to start out, it was an interesting situation that I
Speaker 3: found myself in. My roommate was moving into a new
Speaker 3: place with his boyfriend. I needed a new place, kind
Speaker 3: of like stat I couldn't get somebody else to like
Speaker 3: move in to take over his part of the lease
Speaker 3: because he was the major lease holder, And so I
Speaker 3: randomly asked a friend. I was like, I'm kind of
Speaker 3: an emergency. Do you know anywhere that I could, you know,
Speaker 3: for a room or something. They were like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: you know, can move in with us, And I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 3: never seen inside of the place, but you know, when
Speaker 3: you're kind of desperate, three hundred bucks for a giant
Speaker 3: room is not a bad deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but sounds like there might be a cat.
Speaker 3: No, there really wasn't a catch. I knew the place
Speaker 3: was haunted, oh okay, even though I had never been
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 1: So did that scare you at that point? Or how
Speaker 1: did you feel about.
Speaker 3: That this wouldn't be my first haunted place that I
Speaker 3: lived in.
Speaker 1: Oh my, So okay.
Speaker 3: It was totally fine with me. So yeah, I moved
Speaker 3: in and it was really great experience of living there.
Speaker 3: It was, you know, just wonderful, awesome. It was this
Speaker 3: giant house, like just massive, and it had been in
Speaker 3: a part of in the area where the only thing
Speaker 3: that really saved it from losing any of its like
Speaker 3: architectural features and just wonders of like it's like eighteen
Speaker 3: fifties beauty, was because the neighborhood had gone so far
Speaker 3: downhill that it was never really broken up into apartments
Speaker 3: or anything. It's sort of was but nothing formal anyway.
Speaker 3: So you know, big place, vestibule, huge like grand foyer,
Speaker 3: double parlors, mantle pieces, everything. But it was also very creaky.
Speaker 3: It was also kind of in this really interesting state
Speaker 3: of like kind of decay but like not really, so
Speaker 3: there was like plaster missing and peeling, the wallpaper and things.
Speaker 3: It was kind of in the process of being restored
Speaker 3: and that not, and it was it was beautiful.
Speaker 4: I loved it.
Speaker 3: I called Miss Havisham's house, so I moved in there.
Speaker 3: You know, knew it had a couple of.
Speaker 1: So when you knew that it was haunted, did you
Speaker 1: know that, like the room specifically that you're staying in
Speaker 1: was haunted or what was What were the stories you knew?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I did.
Speaker 3: A friend of mine had actually rented the room several
Speaker 3: years prior to me moving in, and he was all like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're moving in the haunted room. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I guess I am.
Speaker 1: So okay, Well what did your friends say happens?
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't really go too into it. He
Speaker 3: was just kind of like, you know, man, that room
Speaker 3: is haunted as fuck.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: He's all like he's like, but nothing, nothing bothered him.
Speaker 3: And he's like, it's fine, it's fine, it's just haunted.
Speaker 1: You're so different than me. I would have been like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what specifically happens and at what time and what like.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to know everything to be on the
Speaker 1: lookout for because I don't know. I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: I'm so strict about when I sleep and I don't
Speaker 1: want somebody interrupting me.
Speaker 3: I was warned about, well, I think four of the ghosts.
Speaker 3: I think I was warned about four of them. There
Speaker 3: was one that hung out in the bathroom there in
Speaker 3: the dining room, and then there was two children, and
Speaker 3: then there was a man on the third floor that
Speaker 3: had at one point decades before, had committed suicide up there,
Speaker 3: and that was like directly above my bedroom.
Speaker 1: So I was born, all right, But what's the first
Speaker 1: thing that happened?
Speaker 3: Just noises and feeling presence around you, Like you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes you feel that there might be somebody standing in
Speaker 3: the bathroom while you're in the shower.
Speaker 4: I hate that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But to get you to my story, which is
Speaker 3: the one that I think creeps most people out, is
Speaker 3: that so I rented this bedroom and it was big.
Speaker 3: So you know, if the house itself had like, you know,
Speaker 3: ground floor, like fourteen foot ceilings, so the bedrooms on
Speaker 3: the second floor had like twelve foot ceilings and the
Speaker 3: bedroom was about I'm going to say about like ten
Speaker 3: by twelve feet, So you have one hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: square feet to work with, and I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: I had like decent sizes, you know, like full sized bed.
Speaker 3: I had like a set tee, you know, armchair. There
Speaker 3: was a bureau with a mirror and everything, and then
Speaker 3: all of my stuff like in boxes, just piled on
Speaker 3: this one end of the room, and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I I chilled. It was great, you know. I I
Speaker 3: was in marketing at the time, so you know, it
Speaker 3: was busy with my job and wasn't really home much
Speaker 3: because you know, at that time, I was younger and
Speaker 3: partied a lot more. So I think it was like
Speaker 3: in the late spring. I you know, it was just
Speaker 3: hadn't done anything crazy, and I made it an early
Speaker 3: night and I was home and I read my book
Speaker 3: and I was falling asleep. And the way the bed
Speaker 3: was positioned on the wall is that you know, long
Speaker 3: wall bed, two side tables, and then there was this
Speaker 3: really large window, like the only window in the room
Speaker 3: was probably eight feet tall, so it went from like
Speaker 3: about a foot off the floor almost all the way
Speaker 3: to the ceiling and about probably like four feet wide.
Speaker 3: So it allowed a lot of light to come in
Speaker 3: even with all the lights off. And I didn't have
Speaker 3: blinds or curtains or anything. I mean this bare bones
Speaker 3: kind of living.
Speaker 1: Okay, so, you know.
Speaker 3: Sleeping, and I woke up and I'm just on my side.
Speaker 3: Didn't feel anything strange. But when I opened up my eyes,
Speaker 3: I see this woman is kind of bent over by
Speaker 3: the side table, like right like within two feet of me,
Speaker 3: like leaned over this side table, and I could see
Speaker 3: her silhouette and some of the light from the window
Speaker 3: coming in, and she's doing her thing. I'm observing her.
Speaker 3: I don't feel any fear or anything. I'm just kind
Speaker 3: of like what is going on. She's wearing a dress
Speaker 3: kind of like a that almost like iridescent silk that's
Speaker 3: very heavy and it's kind of like a coppery rust color,
Speaker 3: and then at her throat and on the shoulders was
Speaker 3: like black lace and jet beads so kind of like sparkled,
Speaker 3: and her hair was up. I'm just kind of looking
Speaker 3: at her and I'm thinking, okay, what, you know whatever,
Speaker 3: I'm still tired. And then she's, you know, two feet
Speaker 3: from my face, and she just turns her head and
Speaker 3: looks me right in the face, but she has no face,
Speaker 3: and I'm all like, I'm just like okay, and I
Speaker 3: rolled over and went back to sleep.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't afraid.
Speaker 1: I would have jumped out that eight feet window.
Speaker 3: Well, you would have had to go on past her first,
Speaker 3: knock her over or something.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was in move bit, and then
Speaker 1: jump out. Wait a second, okay. So she was like
Speaker 1: crouched over. Okay, new role forgoes. You can only be
Speaker 1: upright because there's something to me about that that really
Speaker 1: creeps me out. So she's crouched over, she does it
Speaker 1: a little slow turned, she was more and she is
Speaker 1: doing the opposite.
Speaker 3: She was more bent over, not like crouched like she
Speaker 3: was about to pounce. It was bent over like she
Speaker 3: was looking at something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now what was she looking at?
Speaker 3: So I had a theory, and you know, I did
Speaker 3: go down and tell my housemate about this, and I
Speaker 3: was like side of theory that came a little bit
Speaker 3: later after the experience that I was all like, So
Speaker 3: this house would have been owned by quite wealthy people
Speaker 3: at one point or another. And my bedroom was situated
Speaker 3: like in the center of the front part of the house.
Speaker 3: There were like the master bedroom, then my bedroom, and
Speaker 3: then went down a hall and there was more house
Speaker 3: but it actually had a door that was blocked with
Speaker 3: boxes that connected into the master bedroom, and then in
Speaker 3: the hall there was a door that opened into my room,
Speaker 3: and if you looked at the woodwork, there were these
Speaker 3: slats about three and a half feet on the door frame,
Speaker 3: so that if you opened up the door, there were
Speaker 3: these these slats like in the doorframe, and they were
Speaker 3: on the door into the room coming from the hall,
Speaker 3: and they were on the door that opened into the
Speaker 3: master bedroom. So at the time period that it was built,
Speaker 3: since I'm kind of a history nerd, you know, it
Speaker 3: wouldn't it would have been a room that would have
Speaker 3: been used as a nursery at one point. It would
Speaker 3: have been like, you know, a young l ladies room.
Speaker 3: I believe the original owners and stuff did have joggers,
Speaker 3: so that kind of built the place as a showplace.
Speaker 3: So my theory was was that that room had at
Speaker 3: one time been a nursery and that those slats in
Speaker 3: the door were to put a baby gate in, like
Speaker 3: a wooden babygate could slide into the slats, so you
Speaker 3: could leave the doors open and have a toddler in
Speaker 3: there or what not running around causing havoc, but still
Speaker 3: penned in and what I think was the possibility that
Speaker 3: what she was doing was maybe leaned over looking at
Speaker 3: the child's bed that was no longer there, or maybe
Speaker 3: a cradle or a pen of some sort that would
Speaker 3: have been in that room. So I think it might
Speaker 3: have been partially like stone taped theory meets also what
Speaker 3: is the word for when you interact with.
Speaker 1: The gifts intelligence haunting?
Speaker 3: I think it's I think there was a little bit
Speaker 3: of stone tape and intelligent haunting going on.
Speaker 1: Oh why didn't she have a face?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe she wasn't made up, Maybe she just wasn't ready
Speaker 3: to see me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she just like didn't My mom used to say
Speaker 1: when I was younger, she'd be like, I need to
Speaker 1: put my face on. Like she would always say that,
Speaker 1: like she didn't literally mean it, but oh god, or
Speaker 1: maybe she was like to her like the baby in
Speaker 1: her mind she was doing the like I got your
Speaker 1: nose like kind of a thing or peek a boo
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 3: When the baby's like, I've got your face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ooh, okay, So was that the only time you
Speaker 1: ever saw her?
Speaker 3: That was the only time I saw her. They're the
Speaker 3: only other issue with the room was that there was
Speaker 3: the After talking to the friend that had rented it
Speaker 3: before then we actually did get together later and discuss
Speaker 3: a little bit was in the room, and we both
Speaker 3: corroborated that it was just this thing. It was kind
Speaker 3: of like a a kind of like a shadowyat just presence,
Speaker 3: and it just manifested itself in the corner by the
Speaker 3: door that would have led into the master bedroom and
Speaker 3: the closet door, and you just never wanted to be
Speaker 3: like very much in that space. And it was fine
Speaker 3: because that's actually where I had all the boxes and
Speaker 3: my stuff stacked up. So it was kind of like
Speaker 3: maybe I imprisoned this presence. I could feel it in
Speaker 3: there sometimes, but not not like, Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 3: any of the ghosts really bothered me because I think
Speaker 3: they just knew that I that I knew they were there,
Speaker 3: and I wasn't there to like cause any problems or anything.
Speaker 3: It was just okay, you're here. He just like not
Speaker 3: watched me in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Seriously, Well, if it was that lady, she didn't
Speaker 1: have a face, maybe she couldn't see you. Hopefully, Okay,
Speaker 1: tell me more. It seems like you've lived in some
Speaker 1: other haunted places. Where do we go from here?
Speaker 3: I think I think the only this is an interesting one.
Speaker 3: I'll try to keep this one short. Back in college,
Speaker 3: been like my senior year or so, two thousand and
Speaker 3: four ish, I shared another apartment with self described butch lesbian.
Speaker 3: We had a great little thing going. She worked at
Speaker 3: like a factory and I was going to art school,
Speaker 3: and our schedules were like different. She worked a weird shift,
Speaker 3: but we did get together and we could like go
Speaker 3: out and watch each other's backs, you know, like she'd
Speaker 3: come to the gay bar with me, I'd go to
Speaker 3: her with like the lesbian bar, and we just like chill.
Speaker 3: So we had a pretty good situation love. And she
Speaker 3: had this apartment and you know, it was just all
Speaker 3: like I've got this extra room, do you want to
Speaker 3: rent it? And I was like, yeah, totally, you know cool,
Speaker 3: another giant room. You know, actually I actually had like
Speaker 3: more than a giant room. It was the third floor,
Speaker 3: so a big room, and then there was this little
Speaker 3: office and it all had like a central staircase that
Speaker 3: went up through it. And place was built probably around
Speaker 3: like nineteen hundred, so it had this kind of squared
Speaker 3: almost like a tower that went up to the third floor.
Speaker 3: And again I was warned the place was haunted before
Speaker 3: I moved in, and it sometimes had creepy things happen.
Speaker 3: And the roommate had told me also. She was just
Speaker 3: so like, you know, he stays kind of in the stairs,
Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, okay, as long as he
Speaker 3: stays there, and sometimes you'd feel him around. And so
Speaker 3: this one evening, ah, I was alone in the apartment
Speaker 3: and I I went to use the restroom, which was
Speaker 3: like in the hall where the staircase came up through,
Speaker 3: and I went through the living room. I'm gonna hang
Speaker 3: her right into the bathroom, and I looked over and
Speaker 3: across on the landing, so there was like stairs go up,
Speaker 3: two more steps up landing, then like steps up and
Speaker 3: then again there was just this black figure, like a
Speaker 3: three dimensional shadow, just sitting there behind the brailing. And
Speaker 3: I was kind of like, oh, nope, and I like
Speaker 3: went into the bathroom and closed the door, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, fuck, you know this is you know,
Speaker 3: I'm up on the second floor. I'm you know, don't
Speaker 3: have a cell phone, like you know, So I just
Speaker 3: did what she told me to do. And she's like,
Speaker 3: you know, if you feel them or anything, just say
Speaker 3: I don't feel like seeing you, Like I just don't
Speaker 3: feel like seeing you. So I stood there at the
Speaker 3: door and I said it said a loud like I
Speaker 3: just don't feel like seeing you, and uh, you know. Eventually,
Speaker 3: I'm like, like, you can't stay in here. So I
Speaker 3: open up the door and beling it into the kitchen,
Speaker 3: grab the phone, call my house Nate, and like leave
Speaker 3: a message on her phone, and I'm like, Hey, I'm
Speaker 3: going down to the bar. Can you meet me there
Speaker 3: because I'm too freaked out to be at home like
Speaker 3: the ghost that was like it. So she meets me
Speaker 3: and we talked about it and we're just kind of like, wow,
Speaker 3: that's crazy, and nothing like that it happened to either
Speaker 3: of us, except for this one time where I just
Speaker 3: happened to be in the right place at the wrong time. Sawn.
Speaker 3: It gets a little weird when you live in.
Speaker 1: A place like that. Are you constantly like on guard
Speaker 1: that you're going to see something or do you just
Speaker 1: get over it and then it catches.
Speaker 4: You off guard.
Speaker 3: For me, you get over it, and then sometimes you're
Speaker 3: caught off guard. I feel like that was like my
Speaker 3: first big experience, and then after that I just became
Speaker 3: more and more desensitized to these things happening. I'm just like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I get it, you're around and yeah there was that,
Speaker 3: but that this story does actually get a little bit weirder.
Speaker 3: So we knew who this ghost was, not that we
Speaker 3: knew him, we knew of him several years before the
Speaker 3: roommate had moved into this apartment, there had been something
Speaker 3: that had gone wrong, and what had happened was the
Speaker 3: guy that had lived in the apartment. He had ended
Speaker 3: up being shot and killed outside of the apartment, And
Speaker 3: so we kind of knew it was it was him
Speaker 3: because you kind of feel it like it was this
Speaker 3: younger person. You know, it wasn't. I don't know how
Speaker 3: to describe how you would feel that it was a
Speaker 3: younger person, but you could tell it was a younger person,
Speaker 3: And so we knew who it was. And it's also
Speaker 3: why I don't want to give the location, because you know,
Speaker 3: this person is still his family struggle. But later on
Speaker 3: down the line, I'm living in San Francisco and I
Speaker 3: get this random call and it's my old roommate and
Speaker 3: we kind of fell out of touch, and she was
Speaker 3: just still like, hey, I have something to tell you,
Speaker 3: and I'm all like what, and she's like, I went,
Speaker 3: I've been going out with this chick and you know
Speaker 3: the other night. I this roommate was also kind of
Speaker 3: standoffish personally, where it was like, you're we're going to
Speaker 3: meet out in public, You're not going to see my
Speaker 3: home for like a while, and okay. So she was
Speaker 3: like I finally brought her back to the place and
Speaker 3: at this point she was living alone again and they
Speaker 3: pull up. They start walking to the apartment, and this
Speaker 3: her date starts getting a little bit uncomfortable and she's
Speaker 3: all like, this is where you live and she's like yeah,
Speaker 3: and so they go up. They like, you know, they're
Speaker 3: hanging out and she's like, I was friends with the
Speaker 3: guy that was killed outside and she's like I can
Speaker 3: still feel him in this apartment and my old roommate
Speaker 3: is like, oh, okay, yeah, I feel him around too,
Speaker 3: and she uh, She's like, do you mind if I
Speaker 3: just walk around and she's like yeah, whatever, you know,
Speaker 3: And I guess she walked around and kind of like
Speaker 3: did her thing and told this guy it was okay,
Speaker 3: like move on, whatever. You know, and apparently after that,
Speaker 3: this was like several months after this occurrence with the date,
Speaker 3: she had called me and she was like, yeah, like
Speaker 3: I just don't feel that like pressure anymore, like in
Speaker 3: the staircase, Like I walk in and I don't feel
Speaker 3: like somebody staring down at me from the third floor.
Speaker 3: So wow, So that was that was an interesting one.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel bad for him.
Speaker 3: Why that's you know, terrible tragedy. But hopefully he moved on.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what makes the other one stick around,
Speaker 3: especially that that last place that I was that I
Speaker 3: was in, so yeah, it was those are the two
Speaker 3: creepy ones.
Speaker 1: Wow, Well, thank you so much. I'm gonna go hop
Speaker 1: on another call. But this, see, I've never lived in
Speaker 1: like a haunted, haunted place like this, like these places
Speaker 1: that you're describing. That's why I'm wondering about, like do
Speaker 1: you just get used to it? Like, because every time
Speaker 1: I go to haunted places like haunted hotel or whatever, like,
Speaker 1: it never I never get over the fact that it's haunted.
Speaker 1: I never like can chill for two seconds because I'm
Speaker 1: constantly thinking about the fact that this place is haunted.
Speaker 1: But if you're living a place long term, I feel
Speaker 1: like you just get over it, right, I think so.
Speaker 3: I mean I grew I grew up not far from
Speaker 3: where I live now, and so it's a pretty old,
Speaker 3: considered old part of the country. You know, Philadelphia Southeast
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania region as a very rich history of like historic
Speaker 3: places in a old buildings. So you know, growing up,
Speaker 3: a lot of my friends lived in Olderham's. I myself
Speaker 3: grew up in a house that was built in seventeen
Speaker 3: ninety one. So I do think you get used to it,
Speaker 3: like it's end up just always being interested in the
Speaker 3: supernatural and ghosts and stuff. I just think maybe I'm
Speaker 3: not as freak out by it as others might be.
Speaker 1: Well, good for you. I hope you call me again
Speaker 1: next time you have a spooky story.
Speaker 3: Oh I will.
Speaker 1: I've been ghosted too. I am now joined by Fay
Speaker 1: in Western Pennsylvania. Hello, Fay, how are you?
Speaker 4: Hello? Hi? It's me.
Speaker 1: What is going on in Pennsylvania? This is like sounds
Speaker 1: like the most haunted state. It's gonna be up there.
Speaker 5: But I do have I have stories for you from
Speaker 5: multiple states. But yeah, Pennsylvania has assorted past with a
Speaker 5: lot of ghosts. Lingering in all the nooks and crannies.
Speaker 1: Well, tell me about every nook and cranny you got
Speaker 1: from me. Where do we start?
Speaker 5: Well, actually, I was thinking think I might tell you
Speaker 5: because you always ask people about sleep paralysis, which I
Speaker 5: have had only one time. But it was actually in Connecticut.
Speaker 5: Can I tell you that story?
Speaker 1: Sounds good to me?
Speaker 5: So I was staying at a friend's house in Sherman, Connecticut,
Speaker 5: and her father actually had built this house, which was
Speaker 5: odd because you would think a haunting would happen in
Speaker 5: a house that was, you know, hundreds of years old
Speaker 5: or something like that. But I was staying at her house,
Speaker 5: and I was sleeping in her sister's room, and she
Speaker 5: had pictures of her friends on the wall, and I
Speaker 5: came to find out that some of those friends had
Speaker 5: died in horrible fiery car accidents, and so I was, well,
Speaker 5: I didn't know that until after this happened. So I'm
Speaker 5: sleeping in the room and all of a sudden, I'm
Speaker 5: in dreamland, and I am the ground, I'm the turf,
Speaker 5: and these boys are playing catch with a football, and
Speaker 5: they're throwing the ball back and forth to each other,
Speaker 5: and one of them, the farthest one away from me
Speaker 5: throws the ball, and this other boy jumps through the
Speaker 5: air outstretched hands to catch this football, lands on me
Speaker 5: the ground and I wake up, eyes open, cannot move,
Speaker 5: completely frozen like. I tried to move my arms, I
Speaker 5: tried to move my head, I tried to move any
Speaker 5: body part and I couldn't move at all. It was
Speaker 5: wild and so I just had to lie there, completely frozen.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 5: The other part of this is it felt like this
Speaker 5: person was on top of me when he dove to
Speaker 5: catch this football and landed on top of me.
Speaker 4: I felt it.
Speaker 5: So I was compressed and frozen and just lying there
Speaker 5: completely terrified.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: I was like, what is going on? But I couldn't
Speaker 5: say that because my mouth was frozen. Everything was frozen.
Speaker 5: I couldn't make any noise, I couldn't move. Finally I
Speaker 5: was released from this paralysis. This person whatever entity, gets
Speaker 5: off of me, and I ran into my friend's room
Speaker 5: and climbed into bed with her, and I was like, I.
Speaker 4: Just got ghosts, like squished. I don't know how to
Speaker 4: explain it. I'm completely terrified. She's like, that's weird.
Speaker 1: Was it one of the weirdest house.
Speaker 4: So that's what it was.
Speaker 5: So I so I went into the room in the
Speaker 5: daylight in the morning, and I was like, Nora, who
Speaker 5: are these people on this wall? Like, I can't figure
Speaker 5: out who this ghost was. And she was like, oh,
Speaker 5: those were boys in my sister's class who died in
Speaker 5: a car accident, and it was a picture of them
Speaker 5: on the wall and these were the two boys playing
Speaker 5: football in my dream landing on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that sounds like one of these examples of
Speaker 1: sleep paralysis being something more than just your body freezing
Speaker 1: and like, oh, this scientific thing that happens when you like, no,
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes it's like something ghosty.
Speaker 5: For sure, this ghost full on landed on me like
Speaker 5: it was. There was no other explicition. It's never happened
Speaker 5: since you know. It was just it was like, Hi,
Speaker 5: I'm here, just letting you know. And there was no exchange. Actually,
Speaker 5: it was just the full body pressure of a human
Speaker 5: on me and I couldn't move.
Speaker 4: It was wild.
Speaker 1: You literally got to feel what it's like to be
Speaker 1: pavement for like a minute.
Speaker 4: I was the grass.
Speaker 1: It was okay, tell me more, tell me more.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: So the other one I have is the shaky bed ghost.
Speaker 5: So this was in Pennsylvania, now the house I live
Speaker 5: and so I'm my brother and I are the eighth
Speaker 5: generation on this farm. Eight so back like George Washington times.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: But I went to let everyone know there were no slaves,
Speaker 5: no slaves, no owning slaves, none of that crap on
Speaker 5: this farm.
Speaker 4: So how wow. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But so this house that my parents currently live in,
Speaker 5: it was one of the original houses on this farm,
Speaker 5: was like, you know, the basement was dug out by
Speaker 5: hand by humans and you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 5: So it was like late eighteen hundreds kind of a house.
Speaker 5: But I've never really had that much of a haunted
Speaker 5: feeling in it, except for the doll that lived in
Speaker 5: in the living room, which I can tell.
Speaker 4: You about later.
Speaker 5: So not a lot of haunting happening. But one night,
Speaker 5: this was like ten or so years ago, I was sleeping,
Speaker 5: I was living at my parents' house, and I was
Speaker 5: sleeping in my bedroom and I had this at the time,
Speaker 5: a gigantic, gorgeous German shepherd, Jack Deuce, and he usually
Speaker 5: slept at the foot of the bed.
Speaker 4: So I was lying in bed.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't remember what time it was, regular bedtime,
Speaker 5: ten or eleven, and the bed just started shaking and
Speaker 5: shaking and shaking and shaking, and then it still. I
Speaker 5: was like, going on, why is this bed shaking? So
Speaker 5: we don't live in California, there are no you know,
Speaker 5: earthquakes at the time, there was no fracking going on.
Speaker 5: So I just kept my eyes very tightly shut because
Speaker 5: I was worried if I opened them something would be
Speaker 5: standing there. And I'm not sure, you know, it was
Speaker 5: going to be a ghost, if it was going to
Speaker 5: be an alien, I don't know. But at first I thought, Oh,
Speaker 5: it's probably just my dog scratching himself and that's probably
Speaker 5: what was shaking. So when I finally got the courage
Speaker 5: to open my eyes and no one was there, I
Speaker 5: climbed down to the bottom of the bed and looked
Speaker 5: down there, and there was no dog in the bedroom.
Speaker 4: I don't know what was shaking this bed.
Speaker 5: To this day, the house this isn't the type of
Speaker 5: house that was settling that none of these things had
Speaker 5: ever occurred before in time or history.
Speaker 4: Of me living in that house.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but it felt like but he was
Speaker 5: shaking the bed for like a good few seconds, let's
Speaker 5: say at least five to ten seconds that it felt
Speaker 5: like what would happen if a dog were scratching is
Speaker 5: kind of jarring, a little bit jarring shaky, But no
Speaker 5: dog was in there, and no other people were in
Speaker 5: there with me, and yeah, that weird.
Speaker 1: Really, It's like there used to be in like motels
Speaker 1: and stuff. You would like put a coin out and
Speaker 1: the bed would shake.
Speaker 4: That's what it was like.
Speaker 1: It was like the ghost of one of those beds.
Speaker 1: Maybe at one point when your ancestors had one of
Speaker 1: those beds in there and the bed was making like
Speaker 1: a ghost, a ghostly comeback gar.
Speaker 5: They had one of those like you know, weight loss belts,
Speaker 5: you know, shaky.
Speaker 1: Things just like shake you. Oh my god. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so do you have alien stories?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, what is that? I so? Okay.
Speaker 5: So when I was fifteen or sixteen and I actually
Speaker 5: wrote it, I had a zine back in high school
Speaker 5: and I was like, anybody, give me your poetry and
Speaker 5: your story.
Speaker 4: So I wrote for the.
Speaker 5: Story and then I read it and I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: this is a full on sixteen year old story. So
Speaker 5: I'm not going to read it to you, but I
Speaker 5: will give you the cliffs notes. So I after activities
Speaker 5: at the school, you would ride the activity bus home.
Speaker 5: And this was in the winter time, so I think
Speaker 5: it was like basketball season or something. And when you
Speaker 5: would get off the activity bus at this time, it
Speaker 5: was dark, so it was like maybe five or six pm.
Speaker 5: It was dark, but it was the strangest clouds. And
Speaker 5: I've never seen any clouds like this since anywhere I've
Speaker 5: lived in the country. They were thick, like pee soup
Speaker 5: blanket thick, and it was as if you could touch
Speaker 5: them when you put your hand up.
Speaker 4: They were so low and it was not missed. It
Speaker 4: was not fog. These were regular clouds.
Speaker 5: Well not regular, they were irregular, and they were very
Speaker 5: irregular and super creepy. So I was fully freaked when
Speaker 5: I got off this bus, and I think, you're just.
Speaker 4: Gonna leave me here these clouds looking like this. So
Speaker 4: it was like.
Speaker 1: Out in farm, coming.
Speaker 5: Out in the middle of nowhere, like aliens love that.
Speaker 5: Oh God, the cornfields, the woods. I mean, it's so freaky.
Speaker 5: It's so freaking out here. I mean, a bear could
Speaker 5: just come out and grab you and eat if it
Speaker 5: wanted to. I mean, not the good kind of bear,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So, yes, soe a coin bear.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I would I would have preferred a
Speaker 5: cocaine bear to this freakiness. And so I had to
Speaker 5: walk home like a mile in this craziness. So as
Speaker 5: I'm walking, so it was a full full moon that
Speaker 5: night as well, so you could kind of see the
Speaker 5: essence of the light. It was very bright, but because
Speaker 5: these these these clouds were so thick, you know, you
Speaker 5: just got a little bit of that iridescence. And then
Speaker 5: I looked up and a whole kind of formed in
Speaker 5: the cloud. It floated over the moon. The moon shone
Speaker 5: through this hole, full, bright, beautiful, and then the cloud
Speaker 5: just slowly closed back up again. And then the clouds
Speaker 5: were slowly moving. I was like, what in the what?
Speaker 5: So I was like, no, no, no, you're just making
Speaker 5: You're just creating stories around these natural occurrences. We're going
Speaker 5: to keep walking home. So I'm shuffling. I'm like race walking.
Speaker 5: I didn't want to run because I didn't want to
Speaker 5: draw attention to myself for whatever would be watching me.
Speaker 5: So I'm terrified, and I'm walking home and I get
Speaker 5: to the crest of the hill so I could see
Speaker 5: my farm, I could see the barn. I could see
Speaker 5: the house. I could see it, and as I'm at
Speaker 5: the top of this hill, I see behind these big,
Speaker 5: thick clouds, these slow throbs of light and I thought
Speaker 5: it was three, but when I read my story this morning,
Speaker 5: it was four. But it was like throbs. It wasn't
Speaker 5: a lightning, it was a There was no sound, but
Speaker 5: I imagined that that was the sound, and it was
Speaker 5: like these like little blops. I can't So then there
Speaker 5: was no thunder, there was no other lightning activity, there
Speaker 5: was no storm that was happening around me or on
Speaker 5: the weather forecast.
Speaker 4: There were just these.
Speaker 5: Four really weird orbs blobs of light up above these clouds.
Speaker 5: So then I was fully beyond freaked, the most freaked
Speaker 5: I've ever been in my entire life. And I just
Speaker 5: booked at home. I hit underneath the covers with a flashlight.
Speaker 5: My parents were not home from work yet. I don't
Speaker 5: know where my brother was, but I was alone in
Speaker 5: the in a farmhouse in the middle of the.
Speaker 4: Woods, by myself, and I was scared.
Speaker 5: I've ever been in higher life, and yeah, I don't
Speaker 5: know what, so I jokingly say I was abducted.
Speaker 4: I could have been.
Speaker 5: I don't have any like latent abduction memories. Although I'm
Speaker 5: a trans man and this is back pre transition, so
Speaker 5: I got I started having ovari insists after this occurrence.
Speaker 5: So I you know, I of course look like, well
Speaker 5: that's aliens.
Speaker 4: Aliens.
Speaker 1: Who knows how high up were they? I mean I'm
Speaker 1: really bad at like feet in yards and whatever, but
Speaker 1: like high up or like.
Speaker 5: Imagine like, okay, whatever, the lowest clouds you've ever seen,
Speaker 5: the lowest cloud cover you've seen where you've been, maybe
Speaker 5: you've been like wow, that's those are really low, like
Speaker 5: directly above them, so you know, close enough to not
Speaker 5: have been an airplane, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 5: we're talking like boom right there, maybe like the top
Speaker 5: of a redwood, like a couple hundred feet in the air,
Speaker 5: you know, like it was it was like a close
Speaker 5: enough to have been a skyscraper, do you know what
Speaker 5: I mean? Like it was close to the closer to
Speaker 5: me than it was to.
Speaker 4: The space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, spooky. It was a creepy Okay, tell me another one.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, so just the other night I saw what
Speaker 5: I call a celestial gash in the sky. Now people
Speaker 5: try to are trying to tell me that it was
Speaker 5: the Starlink satellites, but it looked like someone just painted
Speaker 5: like stardust straight down the sky and it looked like
Speaker 5: it looked like a rip in time space space time,
Speaker 5: and it was like sprinkly little stars in this paintbrush
Speaker 5: stroke that was vertical above the trees.
Speaker 4: And I was like wow.
Speaker 5: So I tried to take pictures and video and it
Speaker 5: did not work. So I was I'm just going to
Speaker 5: focus on this, and it just kind of slowly hovered there,
Speaker 5: sort of kind of very slightly moving up into the sky,
Speaker 5: and then it just slowly dissolved and I was just
Speaker 5: completely enamored with it. It was just so sparkly and
Speaker 5: lovely and it just looked like a little rip in
Speaker 5: the sky. And I've never seen anything like that before.
Speaker 1: I've never seen that.
Speaker 5: So that's the you know, celestial goddess just you know,
Speaker 5: showing some some gorgeousness. So that was the only other
Speaker 5: like alieny kind of situation. Although my brother saw said
Speaker 5: he saw on fat We were sitting in my backyard
Speaker 5: and he said he saw one over my head.
Speaker 4: But I don't have any like a good story to
Speaker 4: go with it.
Speaker 5: It was just him going, WHOA, I do I do,
Speaker 5: so let's see. Oh yeah, the Pittsburgh basement ghost.
Speaker 4: That was okay.
Speaker 5: So I had a friend that lived in a Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: apartment and I would stay overnight at her house while
Speaker 5: I was going to school. And one night I was
Speaker 5: sleeping in her basement and my phone alarm went off
Speaker 5: at like two thirty two in the morning, and I
Speaker 5: was like, what is going on? And I didn't think
Speaker 5: much of it. I checked my phone, but it was
Speaker 5: set for eight thirty or something like that. So I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, I checked and there were no other
Speaker 5: alarm set.
Speaker 4: Well that's odd.
Speaker 5: So another week went by and I was sleeping there
Speaker 5: and the alarm went off at that same time again
Speaker 5: to thirty two, and I checked my phone and it
Speaker 5: made sure, you know, all the technology was working properly.
Speaker 5: And I said, Abby, what's is there? Have you ever
Speaker 5: had any stings strange happen here? And she was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: there's definitely a ghost in here. I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 5: thanks for telling me. So I think it just went
Speaker 5: off twice. But one night we were sitting we were
Speaker 5: sitting in her basement watching like braising out of me
Speaker 5: or something, and her light started to flicker, and I
Speaker 5: was like, every do you think that's the ghost? And
Speaker 5: she was like, I don't know. Let's ask it questions.
Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, well, if you're the ghost,
Speaker 5: blink twice, because I was like, it's more it's weirder
Speaker 5: to have something blink twice than once, right, because I
Speaker 5: feel like I.
Speaker 4: Had to put more effort into it.
Speaker 5: And so we think there was if this is the ghost,
Speaker 5: blink twice and I shit you not, that light blinked twice,
Speaker 5: and of course we were really freaked out, like screaming
Speaker 5: and like ran into her bedroom and like huddled under
Speaker 5: her covers. But yeah, but that's not the only occurrence
Speaker 5: where this phone weird phone alarm situation happened.
Speaker 4: And I don't think it was the same phone.
Speaker 5: And because so that Pittsburgh basement apartment definitely had some
Speaker 5: weird vibes. Not malevolent, but definitely something was hanging out
Speaker 5: in there, and I mean it talked to.
Speaker 4: Us, so it was there. I think we asked it some.
Speaker 5: More questions, but you know, we didn't get any more
Speaker 5: super definitive answers, but definitely flickered.
Speaker 4: It flickered more.
Speaker 5: So that was pretty neat but the phone, but the
Speaker 5: phone alarm going off at weird times in the middle
Speaker 5: of the night was very, very odd. And then that
Speaker 5: happened again when I was visiting a friend at Smith
Speaker 5: College in Northampton, Massachusetts. Though that place was hot, was
Speaker 5: super haunted. And I don't like see apparitions or anything.
Speaker 5: Some of your listeners have such great apparition stories. I
Speaker 5: just love them, but I just get like the uky,
Speaker 5: spooky chills, you know, goosebump situation. And I went into
Speaker 5: this dorm where my friend was staying, and I was
Speaker 5: sleeping on his couch and it was just so creepy, and.
Speaker 4: I had my phone.
Speaker 5: On a coffee table, and so I was sleeping on
Speaker 5: the couch and this phone alarm started going off at
Speaker 5: a weird time in the middle of night.
Speaker 4: I think it was just after midnight.
Speaker 5: And I all of a sudden, it got so ridiculously
Speaker 5: cold in there. I mean we're talking like thirty two
Speaker 5: degrees like like immediately, and.
Speaker 4: I was so scared.
Speaker 5: I didn't even want to stick my hand out to
Speaker 5: stop this phone from going off. Think I was so terrified,
Speaker 5: and I didn't even want to open my eyes because
Speaker 5: the temperature drop was so significant, and it was, Oh,
Speaker 5: it's one of the scaredest I've ever.
Speaker 1: That could have been your moment to see an apparition.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm too wimpy. I just don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I have it in me. But
Speaker 5: we'll see. I mean, I've got hopefully some more life
Speaker 5: to live. Him who knows these goats to pop out
Speaker 5: of him.
Speaker 1: I'm in the same way. I mean, I think I
Speaker 1: saw an aperition once when I was a kid, but like,
Speaker 1: I don't really see that's kind of the holy Grail
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I haven't. I haven't seen one, and
Speaker 1: I I like I want to, but I most these
Speaker 1: stories are like you wake up and there's someone standing
Speaker 1: there and like, I don't want that.
Speaker 5: I think because I say that, Oh, that's the other thing.
Speaker 5: In the Pittsburgh apartment, I said, you know what, I
Speaker 5: don't need to see you. And then so then I
Speaker 5: started saying that. Whenever I felt that feeling, I would say,
Speaker 5: I'm cool, You're cool, I don't need to see you,
Speaker 5: and we're just.
Speaker 4: Gonna go about our day.
Speaker 5: And so that is kind of how I would deter
Speaker 5: anything from I guess manifesting in a visual way.
Speaker 1: Which is so interesting because it's like can they control that.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm hoping that they can, I know.
Speaker 1: Because I don't know either, but like it seems like
Speaker 1: that works. But you know, you can't really be like
Speaker 1: hey appear right now and then they appear like I
Speaker 1: don't ever hear those stories. But like, are you are
Speaker 1: you able to be like turn off that mode that
Speaker 1: makes you appear like I don't want to see you,
Speaker 1: like I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I'm disillusional, but I am going to continue to.
Speaker 4: Tell them not to visit.
Speaker 5: But maybe maybe I'll go ahead. You can show me,
Speaker 5: show me a little leg, show.
Speaker 4: Me a little something, you know, just give me.
Speaker 1: A little to sell it.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, come on, but sho your pants.
Speaker 5: If a ghost just poked its head out from behind
Speaker 5: the wall, hell no, thank you.
Speaker 1: I think seeing the face and seeing like the emotions
Speaker 1: and the eyes like that would creep me out. I
Speaker 1: would be fine with, like, Okay, you can like stick
Speaker 1: your leg out from behind the door and like sort
Speaker 1: of like kick it out and like show off your legs,
Speaker 1: but like, don't I don't want the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, give it to me in pieces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like a little like it's kind of like
Speaker 1: a little burlesque number, you know, like tease me, don't
Speaker 1: like show me, like I don't want to just like
Speaker 1: see you too much to take in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm hoping that because I put that out
Speaker 5: there that they're like, I don't think he wants to
Speaker 5: see me right now, we can.
Speaker 1: Take a hint.
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, Fay, this has been glorious. I have to wrap
Speaker 1: it up, but thank you so much for sharing these
Speaker 1: and please hit me up another time. Let's talk some
Speaker 1: more my pleasure.
Speaker 4: Well, I just real quick.
Speaker 5: Synchronicity is my bestie Jodie, who's got a little touch
Speaker 5: of the medium ship. She said yesterday just about the
Speaker 5: time when you emailed me, Hey, I think you should
Speaker 5: send some stories in to OZ And I was like, no, lie,
Speaker 5: she just emailed me asked me to do it.
Speaker 1: WOA.
Speaker 5: So I thought it went well hand in hand with that.
Speaker 5: It worked out to this has been a blast, And
Speaker 5: I just love your podcast and I love all the stories,
Speaker 5: and I love all your guests and you're my people.
Speaker 4: This was it.
Speaker 5: Like I said, I listened to this for twelve hours
Speaker 5: coming home from Salem.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, thank you. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. Keep the fabulousness coming.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 4: I will don't worry, Okay, I believe you.
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house. Oh my god. I'm
Speaker 1: joined by Cass in northwestern Wisconsin. How are you, Cavs.
Speaker 6: I am fantastic, how are you?
Speaker 1: Honestly so good? I love these episodes because these emails
Speaker 1: that come through. What the hell? What is going on
Speaker 1: with you? I'm I'm looking at this. So you live
Speaker 1: in a haunted house currently? Is that correct? Yes?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we live in a townhouse.
Speaker 2: And I think it's just followed me, honestly, because like
Speaker 2: every place I've gone there's been activity. So I think
Speaker 2: it's just something with me, because there's always been activity
Speaker 2: wherever I go.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's the same, Like, does it appear
Speaker 1: the same as the other places you've lived.
Speaker 2: The last place that I lived with my ex was
Speaker 2: a lot more violent, Like I was.
Speaker 6: Dragged out of my bed, My.
Speaker 2: Daughter was dragged out of her bed, So it's not
Speaker 2: as Yeah, yes, yes, something grabbed her foot and like
Speaker 2: yanked her off the bed and she was only like
Speaker 2: eight or nine years old, and so like we've always
Speaker 2: had activity our whole life.
Speaker 1: When that happened to you, how far did you get dragged?
Speaker 2: I was thrown at least two or three feet off
Speaker 2: the bed so like, and it woke me up and
Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell like and there's nobody around,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, not sure what happens, but like
Speaker 2: I could feel a cold hand around my ankle like
Speaker 2: when it happened.
Speaker 6: So it was very very scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not the kind of drag we like around here.
Speaker 6: No, no, definitely not.
Speaker 1: Okay that that might be the biggest fear. That might
Speaker 1: be the scariest thing that could happen with a ghost
Speaker 1: is getting dragged by your foot out of a bed.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that's happened to you.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, And we we have like this half
Speaker 2: staircase at our house now and we I was sitting
Speaker 2: at home by myself, and I like love paranormal shows,
Speaker 2: so watching paranormal shows, and.
Speaker 6: I get the feeling that somebody is watching me.
Speaker 2: So I look over in this little half wall, I
Speaker 2: see a face staring at me. Now keep in mind,
Speaker 2: you need to be eight feet tall for your face
Speaker 2: to go over this wall, so it is just hovering
Speaker 2: their staring at me, and I could kind of make
Speaker 2: out facial features, but it was like dark, so I
Speaker 2: wasn't sure, Like I couldn't tell who it was.
Speaker 6: But I just instant like chills down my.
Speaker 2: Spine, goose bumps, like felt very uncomfortable. Just it's very creepy,
Speaker 2: and we get that all the time. I've actually seen
Speaker 2: a face in the upper left hand corner like looking
Speaker 2: upside down, like facing upside down, so it's staring into
Speaker 2: the room, watching us, and it's like.
Speaker 6: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: So do you think that it was something floating? Do
Speaker 1: you think it was something that was actually eight feet tall?
Speaker 1: Or do you think it was a couple of ghosts
Speaker 1: doing like what the muppets used to do where they
Speaker 1: would get on top of each other.
Speaker 6: It could have been any of it.
Speaker 2: I could have been any of those because I know
Speaker 2: my husband's father passed right before we met, so I
Speaker 2: never got to meet him. And I know he's active
Speaker 2: in the house. He likes to hide stuff and mess
Speaker 2: with us all the time. But there's something in our
Speaker 2: house that isn't super nice. Like I don't think it's malevet.
Speaker 2: It a malevet or whatever, but like I can't talk today.
Speaker 2: But yes, my husband just told me this morning. Last
Speaker 2: night he always sees shadows in our doorway, like when
Speaker 2: he's playing video games at night, and he always thinks
Speaker 2: somebody's there. But last night he saw a bright light
Speaker 2: and he actually thought somebody was.
Speaker 6: In our hallway with a flashlight.
Speaker 2: So he got up and nobody was out there, Like
Speaker 2: it was like a bright light walking.
Speaker 6: Past our door.
Speaker 1: What the hell?
Speaker 6: I know, super active home.
Speaker 1: But Okay, now, when you've already been dragged out of
Speaker 1: a bed, is this just like, oh it's nothing, or I've.
Speaker 2: I've kind of just gotten used to the activities so
Speaker 2: like you can, I can almost feel if it's going
Speaker 2: to be negative, because like the hairs will stand up
Speaker 2: on my on the on the arm, on my arm
Speaker 2: and stuff, and I'll just be like, oh, I don't
Speaker 2: like this because I've always been like empathic, so I've
Speaker 2: always been kind of like in touch with other people's feelings,
Speaker 2: so I can just kind of feel it.
Speaker 6: But it's not all the time really bad.
Speaker 1: So okay, So the thing that we have for this
Speaker 1: current place, your husband's father, Yes, you, maybe something has
Speaker 1: followed you.
Speaker 2: Do we think I've lost Yeah, I've lost all of
Speaker 2: my grandparents and then my best friend was killed by
Speaker 2: a drunk driver on my daughter's birthday. So I don't
Speaker 2: know if that some of it could be him, but
Speaker 2: he was not like a bad person at all, so
Speaker 2: I don't think he would be messing with us.
Speaker 1: So then maybe there's also something going on with the
Speaker 1: land or the previous owner or something like that.
Speaker 2: Maybe one of my ex boyfriends was like really really
Speaker 2: really big into ouiji boards and he used to like
Speaker 2: to provoke demons and call them out and like talk
Speaker 2: shit to them.
Speaker 6: Oh sorry, I don't know if I could swear.
Speaker 2: No, he literally would be like, you're such a little pussy,
Speaker 2: like literally talking shit to these deep and then calling
Speaker 2: them out by name and everything. And I think the
Speaker 2: activity in my life spiked around them. Like I'm not
Speaker 2: with him, I don't even talk to him anymore, but
Speaker 2: it definitely got a little bit dark during that time
Speaker 2: and very scary. So I don't know if that's something
Speaker 2: that followed me from him. But we have staged and
Speaker 2: we were hoping that would work, but we've even used
Speaker 2: like Polo Santo and everything, but so far just still
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I think you need something stronger they need
Speaker 1: the strong shit. You know. They're like right exactly, But okay,
Speaker 1: so your ex used to talk shit to demons, which
Speaker 1: is not necessarily like uh it was.
Speaker 2: I was not okay with it, Like I never wanted
Speaker 2: to be a part of it. He would always like
Speaker 2: play with the Ouiji board like this isn't real, like
Speaker 2: prove it.
Speaker 6: He'd be like, scratch me, push me, do whatever to me.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's just not okay, Like, don't provoke
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 6: Why would you want that? Number one?
Speaker 1: God, he sounds so cool. I can't believe he's your X.
Speaker 6: I know what was I thinking?
Speaker 1: So did anything happen to him when he would do that?
Speaker 2: Not then, but stuff would happen to his kids, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's like you're inviting this entity into your home
Speaker 2: and you live with young children, and now like they
Speaker 2: are prone to whatever happens because I think I don't
Speaker 2: think it, like responded right away, like you said on
Speaker 2: one of your episodes that like they could be in
Speaker 2: the bathroom or something, you never know, and then they'll
Speaker 2: get back to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they check out their miss calls and.
Speaker 6: Then go exactly and oh I have a message from you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's scary one when you think about it, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I still have my theory that I believe that
Speaker 1: these dark energies are looking for vulnerable targets. And yeah,
Speaker 1: they might like if someone truly isn't scared of them
Speaker 1: and they don't think that they're real, you would want
Speaker 1: that person to be the one that gets attacked. But
Speaker 1: it seems like a demon wouldn't want that as much
Speaker 1: because they're just like, like, you're not scared of me,
Speaker 1: I need fear, Like I'm hungry for fear. I'm hungry
Speaker 1: for vulnerability. I'm hungry for like I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1: But so that's why, Yeah, I could see the people
Speaker 1: around like children or your animals or like whatever could
Speaker 1: be targets at that point.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy because well I watch destination fear and
Speaker 2: that's what they basically do is prove that fear like
Speaker 2: heightens activity. And it's kind of crazy, like you think
Speaker 2: about it as you're vulnerable, and especially if you're getting
Speaker 2: more scared, like they are definitely going to especially negative
Speaker 2: stuff like why wouldn't they like I mean, or they
Speaker 2: could just be an asshole in life and they're an
Speaker 2: asshole on death you never know.
Speaker 1: I know, I know because I keep asking myself what
Speaker 1: am I more afraid of, like demons or just like
Speaker 1: an asshole ghost.
Speaker 6: Or asshole people?
Speaker 1: Well, right, but like because I'm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I think they're both the same, honestly,
Speaker 2: because you never know, Like an asshole person in life
Speaker 2: could just pretend to be playing as a demon because
Speaker 2: they want you scared, right, because if they were like
Speaker 2: bullying in life, they could be bullying in death.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: But because the reason I am not sure because I
Speaker 1: feel convinced that I don't have anything that a demon wants,
Speaker 1: like I'm not I'm not going to give them that.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, uh, that bitch if a
Speaker 1: demon comes into my life, like you won't want any
Speaker 1: of this because I'm not scared of you. But like
Speaker 1: a ghost, there could be some ghosts that are just
Speaker 1: like I don't care, like you're in my house, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do whatever I want to, right, I think that
Speaker 1: might be scarier.
Speaker 6: I know, you're pretty fabulous. They might want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but demons want nasty like demons want like that's true,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, maybe not nasty like they want
Speaker 1: like something's someone that's lower vibration at the moment or
Speaker 1: whatever it is living in fear or I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. It seems to me like they don't
Speaker 1: want like fabulous.
Speaker 6: I don't know, definitely, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to find out. How about that.
Speaker 6: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Wait, tell me more stories. So you also work at
Speaker 1: a haunted place.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I work in a mall and stuff happens all
Speaker 6: the time.
Speaker 2: Like I have seen an actual full body operation go
Speaker 2: into the wall like I thought it was a customer,
Speaker 2: so I went to go grab like say hi, and
Speaker 2: the next thing I know, like there's no other exit,
Speaker 2: and they didn't go in my back room, so they
Speaker 2: had went into the wall of the the next door,
Speaker 2: and I'm like that's totally normal.
Speaker 4: Whoa.
Speaker 2: And every night like I will close and then I'll
Speaker 2: open the next day and there, you know, you cleaned
Speaker 2: stuff up, but then you come in and there's stuff
Speaker 2: all over the place. Like I constantly talk to our ghosts,
Speaker 2: like I say hi and stuff. And I notice like
Speaker 2: when I'm gone, because I've been here for ten years,
Speaker 2: if I'm gone too long, the activity picks up, like
Speaker 2: it misses me.
Speaker 6: So because I do I say hi to it. Every morning,
Speaker 6: I'm like, how's my favorite ghost? This with the mostes
Speaker 6: and the like.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I try to be like nice to it.
Speaker 2: I do yell at it sometimes if like I need
Speaker 2: to get stuff done, I'm like, Okay, you've been here
Speaker 2: this long, why can't you help me out?
Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Who do you think the ghost is?
Speaker 6: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: We had a paranormal team come investigate and they use
Speaker 2: like some tools, but they didn't get really any answers.
Speaker 2: They just like they got readings and stuff. But at
Speaker 2: that time, they were trying to like poke because I
Speaker 2: was dating that really nasty X of mine. They were
Speaker 2: trying to poke into that and like make bad stuff happen.
Speaker 2: And I was like, could you not do that at
Speaker 2: my place of work because I don't want that here.
Speaker 2: So I stopped working with them after that because it
Speaker 2: just felt like they wanted bad stuff to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately, that's common. A lot of people just want
Speaker 1: stuff to happen.
Speaker 2: Right, And I mean the activity is kind of fun,
Speaker 2: like balloons will pop out of nowhere like nobody's around them,
Speaker 2: and like it's not like super hot or super cold
Speaker 2: and you'll just be standing there and a balloon will
Speaker 2: pop and you're like, oh, well, I guess you got
Speaker 2: my attention. It scares the crap out of all my employees.
Speaker 2: Like it's really funny because like stuff will fly off
Speaker 2: the shelves in the back room.
Speaker 6: No one's near it.
Speaker 2: Like we've tried debunking a lot of stuff too, and
Speaker 2: it's like some of the stuff you can't debunk, and
Speaker 2: like you come and you're like, well, you apparently were
Speaker 2: having a bad day because my store is a mess
Speaker 2: and sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh the balloon popping that's given penny wise, that's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh I hate that because it's so long, it's.
Speaker 2: So exactly and like if you're standing right next to
Speaker 2: it and all of a sudden, like it just pops
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, you're like, so that just happens.
Speaker 1: The person that you saw walking into a wall, what
Speaker 1: did they look like?
Speaker 6: It was a gentleman.
Speaker 2: I think he was like about six feet tall. He
Speaker 2: had like jeans and like a striped.
Speaker 4: T shirt on.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was an old employee. This
Speaker 2: mall was built in the seventies, but I can't find
Speaker 2: any record of any deaths happening here. But it's a
Speaker 2: small town, so I doubt anybody's gonna like dig into that,
Speaker 2: so like not broadcast it. But I mean it could
Speaker 2: have just have been somebody that like like hanging out
Speaker 2: at the mall. Or I mean I joke that I'm
Speaker 2: going to haunt this mall when i leave because I've
Speaker 2: been here for so long, and I tell my employees,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna mess stuff up all the time,
Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna move stuff on you.
Speaker 6: Like just because I can.
Speaker 2: Oh, it could be an old employee, So that's very possible.
Speaker 1: Do you think that other stores in the mall are
Speaker 1: haunted or is it just yours?
Speaker 2: Oh definitely. I have talked to numerous store managers. We
Speaker 2: used to have a Christopher in Banks and they have
Speaker 2: a little old lady that they saw.
Speaker 6: They even named her. I mean, like she shows up
Speaker 6: all the time.
Speaker 2: And I've been in the mall because I have keys
Speaker 2: overnight and You'll come in and you could hear people
Speaker 2: moving around and I'll go down to see who it is,
Speaker 2: and nobody's around. So it's like, okay, like definitely haunted mall.
Speaker 2: Like there's numerous stores and we're like a very like
Speaker 2: tiny mall, but there's definitely activity in almost.
Speaker 1: Every store to haunt.
Speaker 6: I mean, who wouldn't want to hang out and like
Speaker 6: go shopping all day?
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me more stories. Do you have any more?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So my husband was showering.
Speaker 2: I was out of town and so were my kids,
Speaker 2: and he always locks the door, just out of habit.
Speaker 2: So he's like gets out of the shower and the
Speaker 2: door is unlocked and it's open, and he just like
Speaker 2: got the feeling the whole time that somebody was in
Speaker 2: there with him and watching and nobody was in there,
Speaker 2: and like my cats can't obviously open the door, like
Speaker 2: they don't have hands, but he just felt like somebody
Speaker 2: was watching him the whole time. And I feel that
Speaker 2: all the time whenever I go in the shower, like
Speaker 2: I've gone in the shower and think my husband walked in,
Speaker 2: because I'll see a shadow moving and I'll open the
Speaker 2: curtain to say hi, and there's nobody there. I'm just
Speaker 2: like I've got a pervy ghost that like's watching me showers.
Speaker 1: You know, that's one of my rules. Bathrooms, bathrooms and
Speaker 1: sleeping I believe are off limits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my husband just recently got pulled out of bed,
Speaker 2: like at our new house, Like he was sitting in
Speaker 2: her playing video games and as just as he's falling asleep,
Speaker 2: something yanked him like off the side of the bed,
Speaker 2: and he like woke It startled him, and he woke up,
Speaker 2: and he looked around and because he thought maybe I
Speaker 2: accidentally pushed it or something. And he looked around and like,
Speaker 2: I'm past out facing the other way, and nobody's in there.
Speaker 6: So we have stuff going on, for sure.
Speaker 2: It's very interesting, and I mean I kind of laugh
Speaker 2: about it sometimes because I'm like, what are you going
Speaker 2: to do? Drive yourself crazy over the activity? No, you're
Speaker 2: gonna We kind of just coexist with them. So yeah,
Speaker 2: as long as they don't hurt us.
Speaker 1: But yanking you out of bed, first of all, I
Speaker 1: feel like you need a break from the ghosts. You
Speaker 1: go to work, you got ghosts, You go home, you
Speaker 1: got ghosts. I don't want anyone being yanked out of bed.
Speaker 1: That is too scary to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I mean I love the pair of normal, but apparently
Speaker 2: I love it so much, I just get activity all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 4: So I just.
Speaker 1: Wonder if that's the same spirit or energy or whatever
Speaker 1: that was at your other place that yanked you out
Speaker 1: of bed.
Speaker 2: I am wondering too, because I know there was one
Speaker 2: time we had to get rid of one of my
Speaker 2: cats because my daughter's closet, which she is terrified. She
Speaker 2: is sixteen. She is terrified of her closet because she
Speaker 2: has heard growling coming from there, and my cats were
Speaker 2: not in the bedroom with her. And my one cat
Speaker 2: that we had to get rid of actually like reacted
Speaker 2: to something in the closet and attacked my daughter. So
Speaker 2: that's why we had to get rid of her, because
Speaker 2: she'd never attacked her before, but something in that closet
Speaker 2: caused her to like freak out and attack my daughter.
Speaker 2: And so we actually have a dresser up against the
Speaker 2: closet now so nothing can get in and out. And
Speaker 2: there was one time I was sleeping in there because
Speaker 2: my husband was sick, and we were just like segregating ourselves,
Speaker 2: but I could hear the closet door trying to open
Speaker 2: against the the dresser, and I'm like.
Speaker 6: No, thank you, just stay in there.
Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of like I don't want to
Speaker 2: upset them because I know, like I don't want them
Speaker 2: to get like angry we've had scratches and bruises before,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what it's from. Like I would
Speaker 2: love to get anybody else's perspective. Like I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna talk to Tenny about it and see what he thinks,
Speaker 2: because he's like an expert.
Speaker 1: So yes, you should absolutely talk to John E. L. Tenney.
Speaker 1: He he knows way more about that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: than me. Because all I have to say is move.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's going to follow us because, like
Speaker 2: I said, I've had activity everywhere.
Speaker 6: And just like if you're nice, you can stay right.
Speaker 6: Also give us a little bit of a break.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's scratching the bed yankin like that stuff
Speaker 1: is like crossing a line. Like to me, that's no
Speaker 1: longer fun. But that's just me.
Speaker 6: No, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: My husband was like a skeptic at first, and now
Speaker 2: it's gotten to the point where he can't be because
Speaker 2: you see shadows every single night. So he's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not going crazy. I see these things and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: you're not going crazy. I saw the face, I've seen,
Speaker 2: I've felt things like, you're not crazy.
Speaker 6: I can you can feel it.
Speaker 1: Well, keep me updated. This is very interesting. To me,
Speaker 1: but I find it a little scary.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely.
Speaker 2: I mean, I like, I tell my husband, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I have to laugh about it because if you sit
Speaker 2: there and dwell on it, you might go a little crazy,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to go crazy.
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