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Speaker 1: joy I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm ghosted.

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Speaker 1: As Mandas. Hey boo, it's me Roz Ooh you know,

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Speaker 1: it's my favorite time of the month. It's time for

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Speaker 1: a listener phone call extravaganza. So you know what to

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure you're gonna listen today You're gonna be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. I want to do that. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: super easy. You just email ghosted by Roz at gmail

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Speaker 1: then just give me some brief bullet points, like a

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Speaker 1: Well that's about it for me, because we have got

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Speaker 1: an action packed episode this week filled with stories. So

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Speaker 1: here we go, it's time for another listener phone call extravaganza.

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Speaker 1: On with the show. Oh My God. Co from around

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Speaker 1: the Pennsylvania Philadelphia area.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, how are you well? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: You you know what, I'm great, CO. I am really

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Speaker 1: excited to hear the oodles of stories that you have

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Speaker 1: for me. What is this story about a woman without

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Speaker 1: a face?

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Speaker 3: Eyes without a face, no, just no face whatsoever. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's it's a story. I share this a lot, and

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Speaker 3: I also kind of want to keep it a little

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Speaker 3: bit vague, so I'm not going to give you a location.

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Speaker 3: It happened around like twenty fifteen, but you know, just

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Speaker 3: for like privacy reasons and things, don't. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to start out, it was an interesting situation that I

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Speaker 3: found myself in. My roommate was moving into a new

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Speaker 3: for a room or something. They were like, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 3: you know, can move in with us, And I was like, okay, cool,

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Speaker 3: never seen inside of the place, but you know, when

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Speaker 3: you're kind of desperate, three hundred bucks for a giant

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but sounds like there might be a cat.

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Speaker 3: No, there really wasn't a catch. I knew the place

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Speaker 1: So did that scare you at that point? Or how

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Speaker 3: That this wouldn't be my first haunted place that I

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Speaker 3: It was totally fine with me. So yeah, I moved

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Speaker 3: I called Miss Havisham's house, so I moved in there.

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Speaker 1: So when you knew that it was haunted, did you

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Speaker 3: A friend of mine had actually rented the room several

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Speaker 3: I was warned about, well, I think four of the ghosts.

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Speaker 1: So I was born, all right, But what's the first

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Speaker 3: Just noises and feeling presence around you, Like you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But to get you to my story, which is

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Speaker 3: I I chilled. It was great, you know. I I

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Speaker 1: Okay, so, you know.

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Speaker 3: Sleeping, and I woke up and I'm just on my side.

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Speaker 3: Didn't feel anything strange. But when I opened up my eyes,

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Speaker 1: What.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't afraid.

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Speaker 1: I would have jumped out that eight feet window.

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Speaker 3: Well, you would have had to go on past her first,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was in move bit, and then

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Speaker 3: She was more bent over, not like crouched like she

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Speaker 3: was about to pounce. It was bent over like she

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Speaker 3: So I had a theory, and you know, I did

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Speaker 3: this house would have been owned by quite wealthy people

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Speaker 3: wouldn't it would have been a room that would have

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Speaker 3: I believe the original owners and stuff did have joggers,

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Speaker 3: the child's bed that was no longer there, or maybe

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Speaker 1: The gifts intelligence haunting?

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think there was a little bit

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Speaker 3: Maybe she wasn't made up, Maybe she just wasn't ready

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she just like didn't My mom used to say

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Speaker 3: When the baby's like, I've got your face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ooh, okay, So was that the only time you

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Speaker 3: That was the only time I saw her. They're the

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Speaker 3: because that's actually where I had all the boxes and

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Speaker 3: maybe I imprisoned this presence. I could feel it in

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Speaker 3: there sometimes, but not not like, Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 3: and I wasn't there to like cause any problems or anything.

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Speaker 3: It was just okay, you're here. He just like not

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Seriously, Well, if it was that lady, she didn't

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Speaker 1: tell me more. It seems like you've lived in some

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Speaker 3: I think I think the only this is an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: I'll try to keep this one short. Back in college,

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Speaker 3: We had a great little thing going. She worked at

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Speaker 3: So we had a pretty good situation love. And she

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Speaker 3: another giant room. You know, actually I actually had like

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Speaker 3: And again I was warned the place was haunted before

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Speaker 3: And the roommate had told me also. She was just

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Speaker 3: so like, you know, he stays kind of in the stairs,

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Speaker 3: this one evening, ah, I was alone in the apartment

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Speaker 3: then again there was just this black figure, like a

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like seeing you, Like I just don't

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Speaker 3: I'm like, like, you can't stay in here. So I

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Speaker 3: a message on her phone, and I'm like, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 3: going down to the bar. Can you meet me there

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Speaker 3: because I'm too freaked out to be at home like

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Speaker 3: the ghost that was like it. So she meets me

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Speaker 3: and we talked about it and we're just kind of like, wow,

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Speaker 3: that's crazy, and nothing like that it happened to either

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Speaker 3: It gets a little weird when you live in.

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Speaker 1: A place like that. Are you constantly like on guard

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Speaker 3: For me, you get over it, and then sometimes you're

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Speaker 3: more and more desensitized to these things happening. I'm just like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I get it, you're around and yeah there was that,

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Speaker 3: So we knew who this ghost was, not that we

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Speaker 3: knew him, we knew of him several years before the

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Speaker 3: guy that had lived in the apartment. He had ended

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Speaker 3: And so we knew who it was. And it's also

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Speaker 3: why I don't want to give the location, because you know,

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Speaker 3: get this random call and it's my old roommate and

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Speaker 3: we kind of fell out of touch, and she was

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Speaker 3: just still like, hey, I have something to tell you,

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Speaker 3: I've been going out with this chick and you know

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Speaker 3: home for like a while, and okay. So she was

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Speaker 3: all like, this is where you live and she's like yeah,

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Speaker 3: and so they go up. They like, you know, they're

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Speaker 3: is like, oh, okay, yeah, I feel him around too,

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Speaker 3: and she uh, She's like, do you mind if I

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Speaker 3: And I guess she walked around and kind of like

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Speaker 3: she had called me and she was like, yeah, like

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Speaker 3: I just don't feel that like pressure anymore, like in

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Speaker 3: So wow, So that was that was an interesting one.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel bad for him.

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Speaker 3: Why that's you know, terrible tragedy. But hopefully he moved on.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know what makes the other one stick around,

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Speaker 1: Wow, Well, thank you so much. I'm gonna go hop

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Speaker 1: on another call. But this, see, I've never lived in

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Speaker 1: it never I never get over the fact that it's haunted.

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Speaker 1: I never like can chill for two seconds because I'm

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Speaker 1: But if you're living a place long term, I feel

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Speaker 3: I mean I grew I grew up not far from

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Speaker 3: a lot of my friends lived in Olderham's. I myself

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Speaker 1: Well, good for you. I hope you call me again

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Speaker 1: next time you have a spooky story.

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Speaker 3: Oh I will.

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Speaker 1: I've been ghosted too. I am now joined by Fay

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Speaker 1: in Western Pennsylvania. Hello, Fay, how are you?

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Speaker 4: Hello? Hi? It's me.

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Speaker 1: What is going on in Pennsylvania? This is like sounds

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Speaker 1: like the most haunted state. It's gonna be up there.

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Speaker 5: But I do have I have stories for you from

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Speaker 5: multiple states. But yeah, Pennsylvania has assorted past with a

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Speaker 5: lot of ghosts. Lingering in all the nooks and crannies.

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Speaker 1: Well, tell me about every nook and cranny you got

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Speaker 1: from me. Where do we start?

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Speaker 5: Well, actually, I was thinking think I might tell you

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Speaker 5: because you always ask people about sleep paralysis, which I

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Speaker 5: Can I tell you that story?

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Speaker 1: Sounds good to me?

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Speaker 5: So I was staying at a friend's house in Sherman, Connecticut,

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Speaker 5: odd because you would think a haunting would happen in

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Speaker 5: and I was sleeping in her sister's room, and she

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Speaker 5: died in horrible fiery car accidents, and so I was, well,

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Speaker 5: I didn't know that until after this happened. So I'm

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Speaker 5: and these boys are playing catch with a football, and

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Speaker 5: the ground and I wake up, eyes open, cannot move,

437
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 5: completely frozen like. I tried to move my arms, I

438
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 5: tried to move my head, I tried to move any

439
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 5: body part and I couldn't move at all. It was

440
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 5: wild and so I just had to lie there, completely frozen.

441
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 4: Oh.

442
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 5: The other part of this is it felt like this

443
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: person was on top of me when he dove to

444
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 5: catch this football and landed on top of me.

445
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 4: I felt it.

446
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 5: So I was compressed and frozen and just lying there

447
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 5: completely terrified.

448
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

449
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 5: I was like, what is going on? But I couldn't

450
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 5: say that because my mouth was frozen. Everything was frozen.

451
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 5: I couldn't make any noise, I couldn't move. Finally I

452
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 5: was released from this paralysis. This person whatever entity, gets

453
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 5: off of me, and I ran into my friend's room

454
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 5: and climbed into bed with her, and I was like, I.

455
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 4: Just got ghosts, like squished. I don't know how to

456
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: explain it. I'm completely terrified. She's like, that's weird.

457
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: Was it one of the weirdest house.

458
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 4: So that's what it was.

459
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 5: So I so I went into the room in the

460
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 5: daylight in the morning, and I was like, Nora, who

461
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 5: are these people on this wall? Like, I can't figure

462
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 5: out who this ghost was. And she was like, oh,

463
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 5: those were boys in my sister's class who died in

464
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 5: a car accident, and it was a picture of them

465
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: on the wall and these were the two boys playing

466
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 5: football in my dream landing on me.

467
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that sounds like one of these examples of

468
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: sleep paralysis being something more than just your body freezing

469
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: and like, oh, this scientific thing that happens when you like, no,

470
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes it's like something ghosty.

471
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 5: For sure, this ghost full on landed on me like

472
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 5: it was. There was no other explicition. It's never happened

473
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 5: since you know. It was just it was like, Hi,

474
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 5: I'm here, just letting you know. And there was no exchange. Actually,

475
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 5: it was just the full body pressure of a human

476
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 5: on me and I couldn't move.

477
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: It was wild.

478
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: You literally got to feel what it's like to be

479
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: pavement for like a minute.

480
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 4: I was the grass.

481
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: It was okay, tell me more, tell me more.

482
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: Okay.

483
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 5: So the other one I have is the shaky bed ghost.

484
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 5: So this was in Pennsylvania, now the house I live

485
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 5: and so I'm my brother and I are the eighth

486
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 5: generation on this farm. Eight so back like George Washington times.

487
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 4: Wow.

488
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 5: But I went to let everyone know there were no slaves,

489
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 5: no slaves, no owning slaves, none of that crap on

490
00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 5: this farm.

491
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 4: So how wow. Yeah.

492
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 5: But so this house that my parents currently live in,

493
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 5: it was one of the original houses on this farm,

494
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 5: was like, you know, the basement was dug out by

495
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 5: hand by humans and you know that kind of thing.

496
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 5: So it was like late eighteen hundreds kind of a house.

497
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 5: But I've never really had that much of a haunted

498
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 5: feeling in it, except for the doll that lived in

499
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 5: in the living room, which I can tell.

500
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: You about later.

501
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 5: So not a lot of haunting happening. But one night,

502
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 5: this was like ten or so years ago, I was sleeping,

503
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 5: I was living at my parents' house, and I was

504
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 5: sleeping in my bedroom and I had this at the time,

505
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 5: a gigantic, gorgeous German shepherd, Jack Deuce, and he usually

506
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 5: slept at the foot of the bed.

507
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: So I was lying in bed.

508
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 5: You know, I don't remember what time it was, regular bedtime,

509
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 5: ten or eleven, and the bed just started shaking and

510
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 5: shaking and shaking and shaking, and then it still. I

511
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: was like, going on, why is this bed shaking? So

512
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 5: we don't live in California, there are no you know,

513
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 5: earthquakes at the time, there was no fracking going on.

514
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 5: So I just kept my eyes very tightly shut because

515
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 5: I was worried if I opened them something would be

516
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 5: standing there. And I'm not sure, you know, it was

517
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 5: going to be a ghost, if it was going to

518
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 5: be an alien, I don't know. But at first I thought, Oh,

519
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 5: it's probably just my dog scratching himself and that's probably

520
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 5: what was shaking. So when I finally got the courage

521
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 5: to open my eyes and no one was there, I

522
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: climbed down to the bottom of the bed and looked

523
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 5: down there, and there was no dog in the bedroom.

524
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 4: I don't know what was shaking this bed.

525
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 5: To this day, the house this isn't the type of

526
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 5: house that was settling that none of these things had

527
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 5: ever occurred before in time or history.

528
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 4: Of me living in that house.

529
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 5: I don't know, but it felt like but he was

530
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 5: shaking the bed for like a good few seconds, let's

531
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 5: say at least five to ten seconds that it felt

532
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 5: like what would happen if a dog were scratching is

533
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 5: kind of jarring, a little bit jarring shaky, But no

534
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: dog was in there, and no other people were in

535
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 5: there with me, and yeah, that weird.

536
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: Really, It's like there used to be in like motels

537
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: and stuff. You would like put a coin out and

538
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: the bed would shake.

539
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: That's what it was like.

540
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: It was like the ghost of one of those beds.

541
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: Maybe at one point when your ancestors had one of

542
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: those beds in there and the bed was making like

543
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: a ghost, a ghostly comeback gar.

544
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 5: They had one of those like you know, weight loss belts,

545
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 5: you know, shaky.

546
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: Things just like shake you. Oh my god. Okay, wait,

547
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: so do you have alien stories?

548
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, what is that? I so? Okay.

549
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 5: So when I was fifteen or sixteen and I actually

550
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 5: wrote it, I had a zine back in high school

551
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: and I was like, anybody, give me your poetry and

552
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: your story.

553
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: So I wrote for the.

554
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 5: Story and then I read it and I was like, oh,

555
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 5: this is a full on sixteen year old story. So

556
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 5: I'm not going to read it to you, but I

557
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 5: will give you the cliffs notes. So I after activities

558
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 5: at the school, you would ride the activity bus home.

559
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 5: And this was in the winter time, so I think

560
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 5: it was like basketball season or something. And when you

561
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 5: would get off the activity bus at this time, it

562
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 5: was dark, so it was like maybe five or six pm.

563
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 5: It was dark, but it was the strangest clouds. And

564
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 5: I've never seen any clouds like this since anywhere I've

565
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 5: lived in the country. They were thick, like pee soup

566
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 5: blanket thick, and it was as if you could touch

567
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 5: them when you put your hand up.

568
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: They were so low and it was not missed. It

569
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 4: was not fog. These were regular clouds.

570
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 5: Well not regular, they were irregular, and they were very

571
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 5: irregular and super creepy. So I was fully freaked when

572
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 5: I got off this bus, and I think, you're just.

573
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: Gonna leave me here these clouds looking like this. So

574
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: it was like.

575
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Out in farm, coming.

576
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 5: Out in the middle of nowhere, like aliens love that.

577
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 5: Oh God, the cornfields, the woods. I mean, it's so freaky.

578
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 5: It's so freaking out here. I mean, a bear could

579
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 5: just come out and grab you and eat if it

580
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 5: wanted to. I mean, not the good kind of bear,

581
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

582
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: So, yes, soe a coin bear.

583
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I would I would have preferred a

584
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: cocaine bear to this freakiness. And so I had to

585
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 5: walk home like a mile in this craziness. So as

586
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 5: I'm walking, so it was a full full moon that

587
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 5: night as well, so you could kind of see the

588
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 5: essence of the light. It was very bright, but because

589
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 5: these these these clouds were so thick, you know, you

590
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 5: just got a little bit of that iridescence. And then

591
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 5: I looked up and a whole kind of formed in

592
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 5: the cloud. It floated over the moon. The moon shone

593
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 5: through this hole, full, bright, beautiful, and then the cloud

594
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 5: just slowly closed back up again. And then the clouds

595
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 5: were slowly moving. I was like, what in the what?

596
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 5: So I was like, no, no, no, you're just making

597
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 5: You're just creating stories around these natural occurrences. We're going

598
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 5: to keep walking home. So I'm shuffling. I'm like race walking.

599
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 5: I didn't want to run because I didn't want to

600
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 5: draw attention to myself for whatever would be watching me.

601
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 5: So I'm terrified, and I'm walking home and I get

602
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 5: to the crest of the hill so I could see

603
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 5: my farm, I could see the barn. I could see

604
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 5: the house. I could see it, and as I'm at

605
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 5: the top of this hill, I see behind these big,

606
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 5: thick clouds, these slow throbs of light and I thought

607
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 5: it was three, but when I read my story this morning,

608
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 5: it was four. But it was like throbs. It wasn't

609
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: a lightning, it was a There was no sound, but

610
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 5: I imagined that that was the sound, and it was

611
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 5: like these like little blops. I can't So then there

612
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 5: was no thunder, there was no other lightning activity, there

613
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 5: was no storm that was happening around me or on

614
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 5: the weather forecast.

615
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 4: There were just these.

616
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 5: Four really weird orbs blobs of light up above these clouds.

617
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 5: So then I was fully beyond freaked, the most freaked

618
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 5: I've ever been in my entire life. And I just

619
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 5: booked at home. I hit underneath the covers with a flashlight.

620
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: My parents were not home from work yet. I don't

621
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 5: know where my brother was, but I was alone in

622
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 5: the in a farmhouse in the middle of the.

623
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: Woods, by myself, and I was scared.

624
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 5: I've ever been in higher life, and yeah, I don't

625
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 5: know what, so I jokingly say I was abducted.

626
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: I could have been.

627
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 5: I don't have any like latent abduction memories. Although I'm

628
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 5: a trans man and this is back pre transition, so

629
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 5: I got I started having ovari insists after this occurrence.

630
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 5: So I you know, I of course look like, well

631
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 5: that's aliens.

632
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 4: Aliens.

633
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: Who knows how high up were they? I mean I'm

634
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: really bad at like feet in yards and whatever, but

635
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: like high up or like.

636
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 5: Imagine like, okay, whatever, the lowest clouds you've ever seen,

637
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 5: the lowest cloud cover you've seen where you've been, maybe

638
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 5: you've been like wow, that's those are really low, like

639
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 5: directly above them, so you know, close enough to not

640
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 5: have been an airplane, you know what I mean, Like

641
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 5: we're talking like boom right there, maybe like the top

642
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 5: of a redwood, like a couple hundred feet in the air,

643
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 5: you know, like it was it was like a close

644
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 5: enough to have been a skyscraper, do you know what

645
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 5: I mean? Like it was close to the closer to

646
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 5: me than it was to.

647
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: The space.

648
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, spooky. It was a creepy Okay, tell me another one.

649
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, so just the other night I saw what

650
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: I call a celestial gash in the sky. Now people

651
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 5: try to are trying to tell me that it was

652
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 5: the Starlink satellites, but it looked like someone just painted

653
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 5: like stardust straight down the sky and it looked like

654
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 5: it looked like a rip in time space space time,

655
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 5: and it was like sprinkly little stars in this paintbrush

656
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 5: stroke that was vertical above the trees.

657
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: And I was like wow.

658
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 5: So I tried to take pictures and video and it

659
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 5: did not work. So I was I'm just going to

660
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 5: focus on this, and it just kind of slowly hovered there,

661
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 5: sort of kind of very slightly moving up into the sky,

662
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 5: and then it just slowly dissolved and I was just

663
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 5: completely enamored with it. It was just so sparkly and

664
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: lovely and it just looked like a little rip in

665
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 5: the sky. And I've never seen anything like that before.

666
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: I've never seen that.

667
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 5: So that's the you know, celestial goddess just you know,

668
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 5: showing some some gorgeousness. So that was the only other

669
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 5: like alieny kind of situation. Although my brother saw said

670
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 5: he saw on fat We were sitting in my backyard

671
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 5: and he said he saw one over my head.

672
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: But I don't have any like a good story to

673
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 4: go with it.

674
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 5: It was just him going, WHOA, I do I do,

675
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 5: so let's see. Oh yeah, the Pittsburgh basement ghost.

676
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 4: That was okay.

677
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 5: So I had a friend that lived in a Pittsburgh

678
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: apartment and I would stay overnight at her house while

679
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 5: I was going to school. And one night I was

680
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 5: sleeping in her basement and my phone alarm went off

681
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 5: at like two thirty two in the morning, and I

682
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 5: was like, what is going on? And I didn't think

683
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 5: much of it. I checked my phone, but it was

684
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 5: set for eight thirty or something like that. So I

685
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 5: was like, oh, I checked and there were no other

686
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 5: alarm set.

687
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 4: Well that's odd.

688
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 5: So another week went by and I was sleeping there

689
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 5: and the alarm went off at that same time again

690
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 5: to thirty two, and I checked my phone and it

691
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 5: made sure, you know, all the technology was working properly.

692
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 5: And I said, Abby, what's is there? Have you ever

693
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 5: had any stings strange happen here? And she was like, oh, yeah,

694
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 5: there's definitely a ghost in here. I was like, oh, okay,

695
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 5: thanks for telling me. So I think it just went

696
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 5: off twice. But one night we were sitting we were

697
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 5: sitting in her basement watching like braising out of me

698
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 5: or something, and her light started to flicker, and I

699
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: was like, every do you think that's the ghost? And

700
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 5: she was like, I don't know. Let's ask it questions.

701
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, well, if you're the ghost,

702
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 5: blink twice, because I was like, it's more it's weirder

703
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 5: to have something blink twice than once, right, because I

704
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 5: feel like I.

705
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: Had to put more effort into it.

706
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: And so we think there was if this is the ghost,

707
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 5: blink twice and I shit you not, that light blinked twice,

708
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 5: and of course we were really freaked out, like screaming

709
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 5: and like ran into her bedroom and like huddled under

710
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: her covers. But yeah, but that's not the only occurrence

711
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 5: where this phone weird phone alarm situation happened.

712
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 4: And I don't think it was the same phone.

713
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 5: And because so that Pittsburgh basement apartment definitely had some

714
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 5: weird vibes. Not malevolent, but definitely something was hanging out

715
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 5: in there, and I mean it talked to.

716
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 4: Us, so it was there. I think we asked it some.

717
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 5: More questions, but you know, we didn't get any more

718
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 5: super definitive answers, but definitely flickered.

719
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: It flickered more.

720
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: So that was pretty neat but the phone, but the

721
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 5: phone alarm going off at weird times in the middle

722
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 5: of the night was very, very odd. And then that

723
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 5: happened again when I was visiting a friend at Smith

724
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 5: College in Northampton, Massachusetts. Though that place was hot, was

725
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 5: super haunted. And I don't like see apparitions or anything.

726
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 5: Some of your listeners have such great apparition stories. I

727
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 5: just love them, but I just get like the uky,

728
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 5: spooky chills, you know, goosebump situation. And I went into

729
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 5: this dorm where my friend was staying, and I was

730
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 5: sleeping on his couch and it was just so creepy, and.

731
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: I had my phone.

732
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 5: On a coffee table, and so I was sleeping on

733
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 5: the couch and this phone alarm started going off at

734
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 5: a weird time in the middle of night.

735
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 4: I think it was just after midnight.

736
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 5: And I all of a sudden, it got so ridiculously

737
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 5: cold in there. I mean we're talking like thirty two

738
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 5: degrees like like immediately, and.

739
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: I was so scared.

740
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 5: I didn't even want to stick my hand out to

741
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 5: stop this phone from going off. Think I was so terrified,

742
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 5: and I didn't even want to open my eyes because

743
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 5: the temperature drop was so significant, and it was, Oh,

744
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 5: it's one of the scaredest I've ever.

745
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: That could have been your moment to see an apparition.

746
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm too wimpy. I just don't know.

747
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 5: I don't know if I have it in me. But

748
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 5: we'll see. I mean, I've got hopefully some more life

749
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: to live. Him who knows these goats to pop out

750
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 5: of him.

751
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: I'm in the same way. I mean, I think I

752
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: saw an aperition once when I was a kid, but like,

753
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't really see that's kind of the holy Grail

754
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I haven't. I haven't seen one, and

755
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: I I like I want to, but I most these

756
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: stories are like you wake up and there's someone standing

757
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: there and like, I don't want that.

758
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: I think because I say that, Oh, that's the other thing.

759
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 5: In the Pittsburgh apartment, I said, you know what, I

760
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 5: don't need to see you. And then so then I

761
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: started saying that. Whenever I felt that feeling, I would say,

762
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: I'm cool, You're cool, I don't need to see you,

763
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: and we're just.

764
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: Gonna go about our day.

765
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 5: And so that is kind of how I would deter

766
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 5: anything from I guess manifesting in a visual way.

767
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: Which is so interesting because it's like can they control that.

768
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm hoping that they can, I know.

769
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: Because I don't know either, but like it seems like

770
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: that works. But you know, you can't really be like

771
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: hey appear right now and then they appear like I

772
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: don't ever hear those stories. But like, are you are

773
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: you able to be like turn off that mode that

774
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: makes you appear like I don't want to see you,

775
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: like I don't.

776
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 4: I don't.

777
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I'm disillusional, but I am going to continue to.

778
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 4: Tell them not to visit.

779
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 5: But maybe maybe I'll go ahead. You can show me,

780
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 5: show me a little leg, show.

781
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 4: Me a little something, you know, just give me.

782
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: A little to sell it.

783
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god, come on, but sho your pants.

784
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 5: If a ghost just poked its head out from behind

785
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 5: the wall, hell no, thank you.

786
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: I think seeing the face and seeing like the emotions

787
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: and the eyes like that would creep me out. I

788
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: would be fine with, like, Okay, you can like stick

789
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: your leg out from behind the door and like sort

790
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 1: of like kick it out and like show off your legs,

791
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 1: but like, don't I don't want the whole thing.

792
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, give it to me in pieces.

793
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like a little like it's kind of like

794
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: a little burlesque number, you know, like tease me, don't

795
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: like show me, like I don't want to just like

796
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: see you too much to take in.

797
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm hoping that because I put that out

798
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 5: there that they're like, I don't think he wants to

799
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: see me right now, we can.

800
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: Take a hint.

801
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.

802
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: Well, Fay, this has been glorious. I have to wrap

803
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: it up, but thank you so much for sharing these

804
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: and please hit me up another time. Let's talk some

805
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: more my pleasure.

806
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: Well, I just real quick.

807
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 5: Synchronicity is my bestie Jodie, who's got a little touch

808
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 5: of the medium ship. She said yesterday just about the

809
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 5: time when you emailed me, Hey, I think you should

810
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: send some stories in to OZ And I was like, no, lie,

811
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 5: she just emailed me asked me to do it.

812
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: WOA.

813
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 5: So I thought it went well hand in hand with that.

814
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 5: It worked out to this has been a blast, And

815
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 5: I just love your podcast and I love all the stories,

816
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 5: and I love all your guests and you're my people.

817
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 4: This was it.

818
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 5: Like I said, I listened to this for twelve hours

819
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 5: coming home from Salem.

820
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, thank you. I really appreciate that.

821
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. Keep the fabulousness coming.

822
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: Thanks.

823
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: I will don't worry, Okay, I believe you.

824
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house. Oh my god. I'm

825
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: joined by Cass in northwestern Wisconsin. How are you, Cavs.

826
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 6: I am fantastic, how are you?

827
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: Honestly so good? I love these episodes because these emails

828
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: that come through. What the hell? What is going on

829
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: with you? I'm I'm looking at this. So you live

830
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: in a haunted house currently? Is that correct? Yes?

831
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, we live in a townhouse.

832
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: And I think it's just followed me, honestly, because like

833
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: every place I've gone there's been activity. So I think

834
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: it's just something with me, because there's always been activity

835
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: wherever I go.

836
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: Do you think it's the same, Like, does it appear

837
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: the same as the other places you've lived.

838
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: The last place that I lived with my ex was

839
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: a lot more violent, Like I was.

840
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 6: Dragged out of my bed, My.

841
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: Daughter was dragged out of her bed, So it's not

842
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: as Yeah, yes, yes, something grabbed her foot and like

843
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: yanked her off the bed and she was only like

844
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: eight or nine years old, and so like we've always

845
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: had activity our whole life.

846
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: When that happened to you, how far did you get dragged?

847
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: I was thrown at least two or three feet off

848
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: the bed so like, and it woke me up and

849
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell like and there's nobody around,

850
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, not sure what happens, but like

851
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: I could feel a cold hand around my ankle like

852
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: when it happened.

853
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 6: So it was very very scary.

854
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not the kind of drag we like around here.

855
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 6: No, no, definitely not.

856
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: Okay that that might be the biggest fear. That might

857
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: be the scariest thing that could happen with a ghost

858
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: is getting dragged by your foot out of a bed.

859
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe that's happened to you.

860
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, And we we have like this half

861
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: staircase at our house now and we I was sitting

862
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: at home by myself, and I like love paranormal shows,

863
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: so watching paranormal shows, and.

864
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 6: I get the feeling that somebody is watching me.

865
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: So I look over in this little half wall, I

866
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: see a face staring at me. Now keep in mind,

867
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: you need to be eight feet tall for your face

868
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: to go over this wall, so it is just hovering

869
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: their staring at me, and I could kind of make

870
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: out facial features, but it was like dark, so I

871
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: wasn't sure, Like I couldn't tell who it was.

872
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 6: But I just instant like chills down my.

873
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: Spine, goose bumps, like felt very uncomfortable. Just it's very creepy,

874
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 2: and we get that all the time. I've actually seen

875
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: a face in the upper left hand corner like looking

876
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 2: upside down, like facing upside down, so it's staring into

877
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 2: the room, watching us, and it's like.

878
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 6: What are you doing?

879
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: So do you think that it was something floating? Do

880
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: you think it was something that was actually eight feet tall?

881
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: Or do you think it was a couple of ghosts

882
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: doing like what the muppets used to do where they

883
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: would get on top of each other.

884
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 6: It could have been any of it.

885
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: I could have been any of those because I know

886
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: my husband's father passed right before we met, so I

887
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: never got to meet him. And I know he's active

888
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 2: in the house. He likes to hide stuff and mess

889
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: with us all the time. But there's something in our

890
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: house that isn't super nice. Like I don't think it's malevet.

891
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: It a malevet or whatever, but like I can't talk today.

892
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: But yes, my husband just told me this morning. Last

893
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: night he always sees shadows in our doorway, like when

894
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: he's playing video games at night, and he always thinks

895
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: somebody's there. But last night he saw a bright light

896
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: and he actually thought somebody was.

897
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 6: In our hallway with a flashlight.

898
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: So he got up and nobody was out there, Like

899
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: it was like a bright light walking.

900
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 6: Past our door.

901
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: What the hell?

902
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 6: I know, super active home.

903
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: But Okay, now, when you've already been dragged out of

904
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: a bed, is this just like, oh it's nothing, or I've.

905
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: I've kind of just gotten used to the activities so

906
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: like you can, I can almost feel if it's going

907
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: to be negative, because like the hairs will stand up

908
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: on my on the on the arm, on my arm

909
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 2: and stuff, and I'll just be like, oh, I don't

910
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: like this because I've always been like empathic, so I've

911
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: always been kind of like in touch with other people's feelings,

912
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: so I can just kind of feel it.

913
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 6: But it's not all the time really bad.

914
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: So okay, So the thing that we have for this

915
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: current place, your husband's father, Yes, you, maybe something has

916
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: followed you.

917
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: Do we think I've lost Yeah, I've lost all of

918
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: my grandparents and then my best friend was killed by

919
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: a drunk driver on my daughter's birthday. So I don't

920
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: know if that some of it could be him, but

921
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: he was not like a bad person at all, so

922
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: I don't think he would be messing with us.

923
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: So then maybe there's also something going on with the

924
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: land or the previous owner or something like that.

925
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: Maybe one of my ex boyfriends was like really really

926
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: really big into ouiji boards and he used to like

927
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: to provoke demons and call them out and like talk

928
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 2: shit to them.

929
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 6: Oh sorry, I don't know if I could swear.

930
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: No, he literally would be like, you're such a little pussy,

931
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: like literally talking shit to these deep and then calling

932
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: them out by name and everything. And I think the

933
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: activity in my life spiked around them. Like I'm not

934
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: with him, I don't even talk to him anymore, but

935
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: it definitely got a little bit dark during that time

936
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: and very scary. So I don't know if that's something

937
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: that followed me from him. But we have staged and

938
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: we were hoping that would work, but we've even used

939
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: like Polo Santo and everything, but so far just still

940
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: the same.

941
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I think you need something stronger they need

942
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: the strong shit. You know. They're like right exactly, But okay,

943
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: so your ex used to talk shit to demons, which

944
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: is not necessarily like uh it was.

945
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: I was not okay with it, Like I never wanted

946
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: to be a part of it. He would always like

947
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: play with the Ouiji board like this isn't real, like

948
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: prove it.

949
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 6: He'd be like, scratch me, push me, do whatever to me.

950
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's just not okay, Like, don't provoke

951
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 2: like that.

952
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 6: Why would you want that? Number one?

953
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: God, he sounds so cool. I can't believe he's your X.

954
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 6: I know what was I thinking?

955
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: So did anything happen to him when he would do that?

956
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: Not then, but stuff would happen to his kids, Like yeah,

957
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: so it's like you're inviting this entity into your home

958
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: and you live with young children, and now like they

959
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: are prone to whatever happens because I think I don't

960
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: think it, like responded right away, like you said on

961
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: one of your episodes that like they could be in

962
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: the bathroom or something, you never know, and then they'll

963
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: get back to you.

964
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, they check out their miss calls and.

965
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 6: Then go exactly and oh I have a message from you.

966
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's scary one when you think about it, like, Okay,

967
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: so I still have my theory that I believe that

968
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: these dark energies are looking for vulnerable targets. And yeah,

969
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 1: they might like if someone truly isn't scared of them

970
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: and they don't think that they're real, you would want

971
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: that person to be the one that gets attacked. But

972
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: it seems like a demon wouldn't want that as much

973
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: because they're just like, like, you're not scared of me,

974
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: I need fear, Like I'm hungry for fear. I'm hungry

975
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: for vulnerability. I'm hungry for like I don't know whatever.

976
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: But so that's why, Yeah, I could see the people

977
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 1: around like children or your animals or like whatever could

978
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: be targets at that point.

979
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 2: It's so crazy because well I watch destination fear and

980
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: that's what they basically do is prove that fear like

981
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: heightens activity. And it's kind of crazy, like you think

982
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: about it as you're vulnerable, and especially if you're getting

983
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: more scared, like they are definitely going to especially negative

984
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: stuff like why wouldn't they like I mean, or they

985
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: could just be an asshole in life and they're an

986
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: asshole on death you never know.

987
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: I know, I know because I keep asking myself what

988
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: am I more afraid of, like demons or just like

989
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: an asshole ghost.

990
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 6: Or asshole people?

991
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 1: Well, right, but like because I'm.

992
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I think they're both the same, honestly,

993
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: because you never know, Like an asshole person in life

994
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: could just pretend to be playing as a demon because

995
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 2: they want you scared, right, because if they were like

996
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: bullying in life, they could be bullying in death.

997
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 4: I know.

998
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: But because the reason I am not sure because I

999
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: feel convinced that I don't have anything that a demon wants,

1000
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: like I'm not I'm not going to give them that.

1001
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, uh, that bitch if a

1002
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: demon comes into my life, like you won't want any

1003
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: of this because I'm not scared of you. But like

1004
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: a ghost, there could be some ghosts that are just

1005
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: like I don't care, like you're in my house, I'm

1006
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: gonna do whatever I want to, right, I think that

1007
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: might be scarier.

1008
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 6: I know, you're pretty fabulous. They might want to.

1009
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but demons want nasty like demons want like that's true,

1010
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, maybe not nasty like they want

1011
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: like something's someone that's lower vibration at the moment or

1012
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: whatever it is living in fear or I don't know

1013
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: what it is. It seems to me like they don't

1014
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: want like fabulous.

1015
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 6: I don't know, definitely, I don't know.

1016
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 1: I don't want to find out. How about that.

1017
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 6: Exactly?

1018
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: Wait, tell me more stories. So you also work at

1019
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: a haunted place.

1020
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, I work in a mall and stuff happens all

1021
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 6: the time.

1022
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: Like I have seen an actual full body operation go

1023
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 2: into the wall like I thought it was a customer,

1024
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 2: so I went to go grab like say hi, and

1025
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: the next thing I know, like there's no other exit,

1026
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: and they didn't go in my back room, so they

1027
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 2: had went into the wall of the the next door,

1028
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like that's totally normal.

1029
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 4: Whoa.

1030
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: And every night like I will close and then I'll

1031
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: open the next day and there, you know, you cleaned

1032
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: stuff up, but then you come in and there's stuff

1033
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: all over the place. Like I constantly talk to our ghosts,

1034
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: like I say hi and stuff. And I notice like

1035
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: when I'm gone, because I've been here for ten years,

1036
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: if I'm gone too long, the activity picks up, like

1037
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: it misses me.

1038
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,479
Speaker 6: So because I do I say hi to it. Every morning,

1039
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 6: I'm like, how's my favorite ghost? This with the mostes

1040
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 6: and the like.

1041
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1042
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 6: I try to be like nice to it.

1043
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: I do yell at it sometimes if like I need

1044
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: to get stuff done, I'm like, Okay, you've been here

1045
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: this long, why can't you help me out?

1046
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm doing.

1047
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: Who do you think the ghost is?

1048
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 6: I'm not sure.

1049
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: We had a paranormal team come investigate and they use

1050
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: like some tools, but they didn't get really any answers.

1051
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 2: They just like they got readings and stuff. But at

1052
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 2: that time, they were trying to like poke because I

1053
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: was dating that really nasty X of mine. They were

1054
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: trying to poke into that and like make bad stuff happen.

1055
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: And I was like, could you not do that at

1056
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: my place of work because I don't want that here.

1057
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: So I stopped working with them after that because it

1058
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: just felt like they wanted bad stuff to happen.

1059
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately, that's common. A lot of people just want

1060
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: stuff to happen.

1061
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: Right, And I mean the activity is kind of fun,

1062
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 2: like balloons will pop out of nowhere like nobody's around them,

1063
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 2: and like it's not like super hot or super cold

1064
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: and you'll just be standing there and a balloon will

1065
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: pop and you're like, oh, well, I guess you got

1066
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: my attention. It scares the crap out of all my employees.

1067
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: Like it's really funny because like stuff will fly off

1068
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,479
Speaker 2: the shelves in the back room.

1069
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 6: No one's near it.

1070
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: Like we've tried debunking a lot of stuff too, and

1071
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: it's like some of the stuff you can't debunk, and

1072
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: like you come and you're like, well, you apparently were

1073
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: having a bad day because my store is a mess

1074
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: and sorry.

1075
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: Oh the balloon popping that's given penny wise, that's like, yeah,

1076
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: oh I hate that because it's so long, it's.

1077
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: So exactly and like if you're standing right next to

1078
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: it and all of a sudden, like it just pops

1079
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, you're like, so that just happens.

1080
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: The person that you saw walking into a wall, what

1081
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: did they look like?

1082
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 6: It was a gentleman.

1083
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: I think he was like about six feet tall. He

1084
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: had like jeans and like a striped.

1085
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 4: T shirt on.

1086
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was an old employee. This

1087
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: mall was built in the seventies, but I can't find

1088
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: any record of any deaths happening here. But it's a

1089
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: small town, so I doubt anybody's gonna like dig into that,

1090
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: so like not broadcast it. But I mean it could

1091
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: have just have been somebody that like like hanging out

1092
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: at the mall. Or I mean I joke that I'm

1093
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: going to haunt this mall when i leave because I've

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00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: been here for so long, and I tell my employees,

1095
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna mess stuff up all the time,

1096
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna move stuff on you.

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Speaker 6: Like just because I can.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it could be an old employee, So that's very possible.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that other stores in the mall are

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01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: haunted or is it just yours?

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Speaker 2: Oh definitely. I have talked to numerous store managers. We

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01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 2: used to have a Christopher in Banks and they have

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01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: a little old lady that they saw.

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Speaker 6: They even named her. I mean, like she shows up

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01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 6: all the time.

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01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: And I've been in the mall because I have keys

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01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: overnight and You'll come in and you could hear people

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01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: moving around and I'll go down to see who it is,

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01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: and nobody's around. So it's like, okay, like definitely haunted mall.

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01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: Like there's numerous stores and we're like a very like

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01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: tiny mall, but there's definitely activity in almost.

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Speaker 1: Every store to haunt.

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Speaker 6: I mean, who wouldn't want to hang out and like

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01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 6: go shopping all day?

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Speaker 1: Okay, tell me more stories. Do you have any more?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So my husband was showering.

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01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: I was out of town and so were my kids,

1118
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: and he always locks the door, just out of habit.

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01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: So he's like gets out of the shower and the

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01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: door is unlocked and it's open, and he just like

1121
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: got the feeling the whole time that somebody was in

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01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: there with him and watching and nobody was in there,

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01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 2: and like my cats can't obviously open the door, like

1124
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: they don't have hands, but he just felt like somebody

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01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: was watching him the whole time. And I feel that

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01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: all the time whenever I go in the shower, like

1127
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: I've gone in the shower and think my husband walked in,

1128
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: because I'll see a shadow moving and I'll open the

1129
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: curtain to say hi, and there's nobody there. I'm just

1130
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: like I've got a pervy ghost that like's watching me showers.

1131
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: You know, that's one of my rules. Bathrooms, bathrooms and

1132
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: sleeping I believe are off limits.

1133
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my husband just recently got pulled out of bed,

1134
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 2: like at our new house, Like he was sitting in

1135
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: her playing video games and as just as he's falling asleep,

1136
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 2: something yanked him like off the side of the bed,

1137
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: and he like woke It startled him, and he woke up,

1138
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: and he looked around and because he thought maybe I

1139
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: accidentally pushed it or something. And he looked around and like,

1140
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm past out facing the other way, and nobody's in there.

1141
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 6: So we have stuff going on, for sure.

1142
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,959
Speaker 2: It's very interesting, and I mean I kind of laugh

1143
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: about it sometimes because I'm like, what are you going

1144
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: to do? Drive yourself crazy over the activity? No, you're

1145
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: gonna We kind of just coexist with them. So yeah,

1146
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: as long as they don't hurt us.

1147
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: But yanking you out of bed, first of all, I

1148
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: feel like you need a break from the ghosts. You

1149
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: go to work, you got ghosts, You go home, you

1150
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: got ghosts. I don't want anyone being yanked out of bed.

1151
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: That is too scary to me.

1152
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.

1153
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean I love the pair of normal, but apparently

1154
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: I love it so much, I just get activity all

1155
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: the time.

1156
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 4: So I just.

1157
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: Wonder if that's the same spirit or energy or whatever

1158
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: that was at your other place that yanked you out

1159
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: of bed.

1160
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: I am wondering too, because I know there was one

1161
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: time we had to get rid of one of my

1162
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: cats because my daughter's closet, which she is terrified. She

1163
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: is sixteen. She is terrified of her closet because she

1164
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: has heard growling coming from there, and my cats were

1165
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: not in the bedroom with her. And my one cat

1166
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: that we had to get rid of actually like reacted

1167
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: to something in the closet and attacked my daughter. So

1168
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: that's why we had to get rid of her, because

1169
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: she'd never attacked her before, but something in that closet

1170
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: caused her to like freak out and attack my daughter.

1171
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: And so we actually have a dresser up against the

1172
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: closet now so nothing can get in and out. And

1173
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: there was one time I was sleeping in there because

1174
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 2: my husband was sick, and we were just like segregating ourselves,

1175
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: but I could hear the closet door trying to open

1176
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: against the the dresser, and I'm like.

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01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 6: No, thank you, just stay in there.

1178
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of like I don't want to

1179
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: upset them because I know, like I don't want them

1180
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 2: to get like angry we've had scratches and bruises before,

1181
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: and I don't know what it's from. Like I would

1182
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: love to get anybody else's perspective. Like I think I'm

1183
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: gonna talk to Tenny about it and see what he thinks,

1184
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: because he's like an expert.

1185
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: So yes, you should absolutely talk to John E. L. Tenney.

1186
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: He he knows way more about that kind of stuff

1187
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: than me. Because all I have to say is move.

1188
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 2: I feel like it's going to follow us because, like

1189
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: I said, I've had activity everywhere.

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01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 6: And just like if you're nice, you can stay right.

1191
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 6: Also give us a little bit of a break.

1192
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's scratching the bed yankin like that stuff

1193
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: is like crossing a line. Like to me, that's no

1194
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: longer fun. But that's just me.

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01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 6: No, Yeah, I know.

1196
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: My husband was like a skeptic at first, and now

1197
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: it's gotten to the point where he can't be because

1198
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: you see shadows every single night. So he's like, I'm

1199
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: not going crazy. I see these things and I'm like, no,

1200
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 2: you're not going crazy. I saw the face, I've seen,

1201
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: I've felt things like, you're not crazy.

1202
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 6: I can you can feel it.

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01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: Well, keep me updated. This is very interesting. To me,

1204
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: but I find it a little scary.

1205
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely.

1206
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I like, I tell my husband, I'm like,

1207
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 2: I have to laugh about it because if you sit

1208
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 2: there and dwell on it, you might go a little crazy,

1209
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: and I don't want to go crazy.

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01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, oh loved it so much. Thank you to

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01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: everyone that participated this month. Again, that could be you.

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01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: Email ghosted by rosatgmail dot com, subject line listener episode

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01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,880
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01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,320
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01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: to leave a five star review. You could say nice

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01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: things about me. You could also leave me a ghost

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01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: story to read on the show. That's a great place

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01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: to do that. You could also email it to me,

1221
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: or you could put it in a Facebook group. Not

1222
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: a great place to send me stuff would be like Instagram, Twitter.

1223
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Speaker 1: I don't know, things get lost in there. You can

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01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: follow me though, I'm on Instagram at raz Hernandez. My

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Speaker 1: TikTok and Twitter are at It's raz Hernandez. I love

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Speaker 1: you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't

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01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: ask you to haunt me, Don't haunt me. Came Back.

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