1 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of Real 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: Time Crime. I'm one of your hosts, Leah Lamar, and 3 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: today I have with me my wonderful co host. Excuse 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: me why I take a sip of water, have some nuts. 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm not looking at the zoom. Otherwise I would have 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: just kept talking. But wow, that happened, and that was 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: sometimes Dmitri. Hello, social suits, welcome back. We're happy to 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: be here. Today. We're gonna be discussing the Drako the 9 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Ruler murder. Ali Ga, why did I do that? I'm 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: We're you know, Teddy. I gotta be honest. You really 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: set the bar high today. I like to really come 12 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: in hot. Yeah. We'll also be discussing allegations against Chris 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: No and then a truck driver receiving a d and 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: ten years in prison because a hundred wasn't enough. So 15 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: beyond it's it's unbelievable. All right, Well, let's dig in. 16 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: I think we should start with Chris. Know we're about 17 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: to talk about something that is potentially very triggering for 18 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: a large group of people. So if the R word 19 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: is triggering to you, I would skip ahead probably twenty 20 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: minutes and anything having to do with sexual assault or abuse. 21 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: So this is an pending crime. No criminal activity has 22 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: been uh stated yet per se that is correct. Nothing 23 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: nothing has there's no UM. I don't know what am 24 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: I saying. I don't know, but I do know that 25 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: he used to live in my building, my old apartment building. Yeah, 26 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: and it was like in the height of him, you know, 27 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: being on sex in the city and when like would 28 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: have screening parties and we would all drink and called 29 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: down to the front desk and asked to be connected 30 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: to his apartment and he um, he never never, he didn't. 31 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: He didn't want to come and pick up some babes. 32 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: That's so odd. We'd be like, hey, it's take from 33 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: blot o to house. No, yep, that's my experience. So 34 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: did you ever witness him bringing lots of different women 35 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: into his apartment? I actually never saw him was another 36 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: human my entire time living there. Like he was always 37 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: by himself. This is you know, obviously way pre pandemic. 38 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: But we'd see him at the pool, we'd see him whatever, 39 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: and he was always by himself. However, now, what are 40 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: they up to? Three slash four women? It's three slash 41 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: four And for everyone who's unaware of Christnas. He's a 42 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: actor known for his roles in NYPD Detective Mike Logan 43 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: on Lawn or Order for five years. He was big 44 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: on Sex in the City. I think that's his most 45 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: notable role for six years, and Peter Floric on The 46 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: Good Wife for seven years. So as of North stars 47 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: in the revival of The Equalizer which was on CBS, 48 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: and he appears and just like that, which is the 49 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,279 Speaker 1: revival of Sex in the City on HBO. And obviously 50 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give any spoilers, but I'm sure a 51 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: lot of you already know what has happened in that 52 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: show thus far with him. And we do know that 53 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: the ladies of Sex in the City have come forward 54 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: to stand with anyone who may have been assaulted. We 55 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: don't know whether or not the assaults are true, yet 56 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: I tend to believe women. And so before I put 57 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: my two cents on it, does anyone have anything else 58 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: they want to say? No? I mean I think that 59 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: even though these alleged crimes happened so long ago, people 60 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: were swift to act on this afterwards. I mean, Peloton 61 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: did an ad that was maybe up what was it 62 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: a day m hm? With him and Ryan Reynolds that 63 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: they pulled immediately. UM, And I know all the allegations 64 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: came out pretty much right after the premiere of and 65 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: just like that on HBO. Correct. So two women came 66 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: forward and then a third woman just came forward. Go on, Teddy, sorry, 67 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: now you go ahead. I was gonna say. One of 68 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: the alleged victims, who a lot of them are using 69 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: monikers at the moment, Her name is Zoe. She did 70 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: a Hollywood Reporter profile and it said that Um, the actor, 71 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: allegedly raped her from behind in two four after they 72 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: met at a high profile l A event. And then 73 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: a second woman, also a moniker, named Lily, accused him 74 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: of misconduct as well. She said that they met in 75 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: the New York City nightclub in and then she said 76 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: that the actor invited her back to his apartment after 77 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: a night of drinking and allegedly also Um had sexual 78 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: conduct that was non consensual. And then one day later, 79 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: a third alleged victim came forward, telling The Daily Beast 80 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: that she was sexually assaulted by him while working as 81 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: a hostess and lounge singer in New York's at De 82 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: Marino Restaurant when she was just eighteen. Sonath has been 83 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: denying all the claims, saying that everything against him is 84 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: completely false and that the stories are all untrue, and 85 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: he is restating that no always means Now, I think 86 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: he said that all the the all those things were 87 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: consensual except one. He's I think he even said he 88 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: doesn't know who that person is. Yeah, he said he's 89 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: he's never even heard of his third accuser. And do 90 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: we believe that, Well, there are people that definitely do. 91 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he's already been dropped by a three arts agency. 92 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: His twelve million dollar deal to buy his tequila brand 93 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: was also canceled. Um, which is fine because I don't 94 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: need a Chris No tequila is enough. I mean that 95 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: would be that would be like Cosby coming out with 96 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: a sleeping peel like we're good. Yeah, well now that 97 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: you do say that, um, Cosby, there is a tie 98 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: in because Chris Not used to be tied to Beverly Johnson. 99 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: And since all of these allegations came out, then all 100 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: these national enquir and old reports came forward from Beverly Johnson, 101 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: who also was one of the first people to come 102 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: out against Cosby. And then there was even another person. 103 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to involve just another person that I 104 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: don't know, but there was another person involved that she 105 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: also accused uh trying to kill her, like she said 106 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: with Chris Oath, which this is a lot. It was 107 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: interesting because apparently the first two women both tried to 108 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: um bring the story to light at separate times before this, 109 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: and both of them also said, well, they were like, 110 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: we don't know how or where to connect with other survivors. 111 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because it's usually what we've seen in 112 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: the Me Too movement is that it's usually never just 113 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: one person is sexually assaulted by someone. It's usually that 114 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: they have assaulted many people, and and then and then 115 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: how do you connect with each other unless the story breaks? 116 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: And how do you exactly like, how do you get 117 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: the attention? I mean because I was I was on 118 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: a group chext with my girlfriends. We just because we 119 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: all watched sex in the City together, you know, and 120 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: we're like we want you know, as your childhood, like 121 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: watch as a and you want to believe that big 122 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: is innocent, but then you also want to believe women 123 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: Like one of the questions that I had for them 124 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: is like, I I'm confused why somebody would go to 125 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Reporter to share this and somebody's like, teddy dah, 126 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 1: it's because they've already tried other avenues and it hasn't 127 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: gone anywhere for them to get that. I thought it 128 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: was interesting that both women said that they were raped 129 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: from behind by him, and that they didn't speak with 130 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: each other about it, and that two different people went 131 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: to the Hollywood Reporter without knowing about the other about 132 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: the other. My philosophy is too in this sense, like 133 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: you said, is to always believe the women and um, 134 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's just the way you I 135 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: think you have to start. And if, by chance, if 136 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: something comes down the pike that shows that that was 137 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: false where they were innocent, then an apologies due. But 138 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't think you can come out and just defend 139 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: a guy because he was on a show or whatever 140 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: it is. And that's why I thought you guys you 141 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: mentioned it. But I thought the three girls from in 142 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: the City releasing a joint statement was was kind of 143 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: a big deal because I'm sure people wanted to know 144 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: what they thought, and they seemed to have taken that 145 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: that same thing. Did you guys have it? Do you 146 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: want to read it or I have it here if 147 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: you want, but go ahead to Cynthia next and Sarah, 148 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: Jessica Parker and Chris and David said, we are deeply 149 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: saddened to hear the allegations against Chris Knows. We support 150 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: the women who have come forward and shared their painful experiences. 151 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: We know it must be a very difficult thing to do, 152 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: and we commend them for it. So it seems they're 153 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: taking that path as well. It's interesting because I was 154 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: reading about the second woman who came forward and she 155 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: said that she said no repeatedly, it was very painful, 156 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: and there was blood on her shirt. There was blood 157 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: on her shirt, and she said, you have a wife 158 00:09:51,600 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: and a daughter, and that Chris allegedly said monogamy isn't real. Uh, 159 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: I mean, and I mean a rumor has I mean, 160 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: who knows, but that his wife has moved out. So 161 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: if that's the case, or they've split up or whatever 162 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: it may be. But if that is the case, she 163 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: is Also It's interesting because I I can't imagine sticking 164 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: by someone who's being accused of sexual assault. Yeah, but 165 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: I also know relationships are complicated. I don't know. I 166 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: mean this has just been happening in Hollywood over the 167 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: last four years, and it's very interesting to see the 168 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: relationship dynamic that come after someone has been accused of 169 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: sexual assaults. I don't know. I mean, I think even 170 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: when Beverly Johnson when the when the cops were called 171 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: and he was brought in and she decided not to 172 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: press charges with what was written up was that she 173 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: didn't press charges because she saw the good side in him, 174 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: which I think is you know, can be common and 175 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: what happens when you're being abused or raped or in 176 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: some sort of domestic violent situation, and it's just scary. 177 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: And it also it makes me think about some of 178 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: the situation the decisions that I made when I was 179 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: younger that weren't the smartest decisions and that could have 180 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: ended much worse. I mean, I there was a time, 181 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: like I mean, not to make this ever about me, 182 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: but like that was, you know, twenty years old, went 183 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: to a nightclub met an actor was in awe by 184 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: the whole situation. He was with another actor. They were 185 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: both you know, names that we were aware of, and 186 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: they were like, you want to come to an after 187 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: party at our house and get there and after parties, 188 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: just me and my friend, and they never forced us 189 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: to do anything, but they made it very clear why 190 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: we were there. And you have all these things like 191 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: the next day waking up and being like, I really 192 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: put myself in a dangerous situation. Why because I thought 193 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: this guy was cool or he was famous or what 194 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, Like yeah, and luckily they weren't the type 195 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: that that forced anything. But that same situation happens to people, 196 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: and and it doesn't end like that. I do think that, 197 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to abuse, if you're in 198 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: a cycle of abuse, you tend to try to make 199 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: yourself feel better about it. It's like, oh, well, it 200 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: could be worse. He could have X, Y Z. At 201 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: least I don't have any bruises on my body, you know, 202 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: at least he didn't hit me. At least he didn't. 203 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: And it's like that becomes a very slippery slope. But yeah, 204 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: I think I think I always tend to believe women. 205 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: Of course, in a lot of me two cases, I 206 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: think there were some where the line isn't as clear, 207 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: and these seem like very clear allegations. But again it's 208 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: not a crime yet. There has been no um at 209 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: court date, there's no charges. So right now all we 210 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: have our allegations and I guess we'll see how it 211 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: all plays out. And you know, we're thinking about all 212 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: the people that have been affected in this, from the 213 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: women that potentially are allegedly were affected to also his kid, 214 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: his child, his wife. You know, it's interesting because a 215 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of the women also discussed how they were enamored 216 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: because it was the height of sex in the city 217 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: and it it oh my god, it's Mr Big, you know. 218 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: And he used to leave voicemails on one of the 219 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: women's phones and even her boss would listen to them, 220 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: and I could see that being very intoxicating. And and 221 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: I don't mean this in a negative way, but you know, 222 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: I think some people do get really star struck. Yeah, 223 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: no one's to blame for that, you know, it's it 224 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: just happens. Um. I just think that, you know, when 225 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: you're a man in a position of power, when you 226 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: take advantage of women knowingly because of that, that's this 227 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: is what ultimately is allegedly a predator, which is which 228 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: is obviously it's not this is not good that any 229 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: of us happened, but if there's something good to come 230 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: from it, is to that we would like we said, 231 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: we don't know that this is this is supposedly like 232 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: it's a crime yet, right, It's still evolving. But the 233 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is it's still stuff that people 234 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: can learn from and they can say. People can hear 235 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: this story and think, Okay, well, I shouldn't just trust 236 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: someone because they're on my TV. Yeah, I shouldn't just 237 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: go to somebody's apartment because I recognize them from a 238 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: show or because I'm enamored by the fact that they're famous. 239 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't make them good people. Can we tack on 240 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: executive producers and agents and managers and studio network and 241 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: and any CEO and presidents. I just wanted to add 242 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: a couple other names the list. Ah wow, this is 243 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: this is nice and depressing to start well, I also 244 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: do want to say for any ladies who might have 245 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: the question of, well, how am I supposed to safely 246 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: meet up with people? How do I weed people out? 247 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: Something that I've learned through trial and error is I 248 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: always make it clear that it's not a date ahead 249 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: of time, so if anything gets uncomfortable, Um, it was 250 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: already clear in text that I'm just there for business, 251 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: and I leave when I get uncomfortable. And then the 252 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: other thing is I usually ask ahead of time when 253 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: someone asks to meet me what's the agenda? I want 254 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: to know why they want to meet up with me. 255 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: And I learned that from Barbara Corkran, who is incredible. Um, 256 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: if you guys ever watched Shark Tank, Barbara's so sharp 257 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: and she really has a shark. She's incredible, and she's 258 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: always ask what's the agenda? Because my time is too 259 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: valuable and too precious to just meet up with a 260 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: random guy because he has a crush on me and 261 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: he was too insecure to actually ask him on a 262 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: date because he thought I would say no. So, ladies, 263 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: never get yourself in the situation where you've got a 264 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: bait and switch where you think you're going to talk 265 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: about business, but it turns out to be a date 266 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: and never fun. Never fun, So always ask what's on 267 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: the agenda? Very good advice. Uh, And shall we take 268 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: a break and come back with the other stuffy, Let's 269 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: take a little break. I love a break for us 270 00:16:45,520 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: the RB and we're back from our real time crime. 271 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: Hello crime heads. We still never really figured out a 272 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: name for everyone? Did we think social sluts was fun. 273 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: I like sexy sluts. I don't know after what topic 274 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: we just discussed that sexy sluts is an appropriate name 275 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: for I'm gonna I'm gonna backtrack. I'm gonna backtrack. Let's go. Yeah, 276 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: crime heads, I don't know, Okay, moving on. So I 277 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: think it's time to discuss our truck driver who killed 278 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: four people and was sentenced to a hundred and ten 279 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: years in prison. Do you want to take this one? Okay? 280 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: First pronounced the name for me, so I don't mess 281 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: it up. Is it? Ro Hell Aguilera Maderas is the 282 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: driver who crashed an out of control semi truck and 283 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: just stop traffic in two thousand nineteen. He was He 284 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: was twenty three years old at the time, past one 285 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: of Colorado's runway truck ramp after losing the brakes on 286 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: his commercial via goal as he descended onto this I seventy. 287 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: He killed four people and injured several others. The crash 288 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: damaged or destroyed twenty eight vehicles. He was convicted of 289 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: twenty seven counts, including vehicular homicide. A judge in Jefferson 290 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: County sentenced him to one and ten years in prisons. 291 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: Four counts of vehicular homicides, six counts of assault in 292 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: the first degree extreme indifference, ten counts of attempt to 293 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: commit assault in the first degree, two counts of vehicle 294 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: two counts of vehicular assault reckless one count of reckless driving, 295 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: four counts of careless driving causing death. Since this happened, 296 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: since he was sentenced to the hundred and ten years, 297 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: more than four million people have signed a petition on 298 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: change dot org asking the governor Jared Paulis to grant 299 00:18:53,080 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: clemency or commute truck driver rogals prison, sitnals so and 300 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: o J walks free it. Here's the thing. Obviously there 301 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: were mistakes made. However, he wasn't texting, he wasn't drinking, 302 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't on drugs. This is all confirmed. A hundred 303 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: and a hundred and ten years for a twenty three 304 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: year old man who has a child, who was not 305 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: doing anything to like alter his driving ability. It is 306 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: obscene to me. I think also the fact that both 307 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: sides agree that his breaks went out. It's like this 308 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: person is not at fault. He did make some mistakes, 309 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: which is which is why they gave him a hundred 310 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: and ten years, and apparently in Colorado, you can't do 311 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: concurrent sentences. They have to be consecutive, which is why 312 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: it's a hundred and ten years. And I guess the 313 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: question is how long is one person's life worth? And 314 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: so they did four life sentences back to back to 315 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: back to back essentially. But so he missed he missed 316 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: one of the runaway truck ramps, and that would have 317 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: been a way to help him prevent hitting anyone else. 318 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: But in his testimony, he was saying, it's like if 319 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: you're in a panic and you've never been in this 320 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: situation before, you're probably in tunnel vision. Yeah, it's not 321 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: like he was malicious. No, he was busy swerving in 322 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: and out of cars, trying not to hit anyone. And 323 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: then he said that he saw another truck in the shoulder, 324 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: which is that's where he wanted to stay. He said 325 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: he was just going to try to stay in the 326 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: shoulder and that there was a truck up ahead, so 327 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: he thought maybe if he smashed into it, it would 328 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: slow down his vehicle. But then I guess that is 329 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: another point of contention because they realized if he smashed 330 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: into that larger truck, he probably would have died and 331 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: killed himself, and so because he was not willing to 332 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: commit suicide, that's why they're saying that he had malicious 333 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: intent because he was willing to put other people in 334 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: danger before himself. But I don't know that he knew 335 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: how it was going to end. Like I mean, I agree, 336 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: I don't want to kill myself either, but it doesn't 337 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: mean that all of a sudden I want to hurt 338 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: other people or kill other people. Know, And they're saying 339 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: that there are a couple of maneuvers you can do 340 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: if your truck uh loses breaks or there's an incident. 341 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: You can try to lay the truck down on its side, 342 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: which apparently is a very difficult move to do. I 343 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: think that would I mean, making like a very sharp 344 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: turn and then just having it fall over. Um, you 345 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: could also run it into the guardrail. I mean, these 346 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: are all right, and and let's be honest, these don't 347 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: really seem like tactics you learn how to do by 348 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: actually practicing them. You probably just read them in a textbook. 349 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: So if you've never done it before and your brain 350 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: goes blank, this is a lot. This is exactly why 351 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: when a lot of people hydroplane, they get into accidents 352 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: because they've never experienced hydroplaning. They've just read about it. 353 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: For those people who don't know what hydroplanning is, it's 354 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: when there's water on the road and your car skids 355 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: and you lose complete um a steering ability. So everyone 356 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles when it drizzles, which is which is? 357 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: Which is funny? That for when you get a driver's license, right, 358 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: they take you on some back road where there's park 359 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: cars and they have you parallel park. That's not where 360 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: the accidents happen. The accidents happen when you drive it. 361 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: So maybe people should be a little more versed in 362 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: the situations that they may have to handle. Yeah, these 363 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: boulevard I mean also the fact that there's now a 364 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: hashtag no trucks to Colorado, like all everybody refusing to 365 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: drive in Colorado to stand by him, show how over 366 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: the top this sentences for what happened. Apparently there are 367 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: a ton of truck drivers blocking off the roads to Colorado. 368 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: They've all just complete there. They're they're basically not rioting, protesting. 369 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: And the little the little girl, one of the little girls, 370 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: one of the people who was killed. Unfortunately, she said, 371 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: I won't have my dad, but hopefully this is the 372 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: person who killed my father will have his son. And 373 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: even then the judge said he it was completely out 374 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: of his hands and he was mandatory to give this sentence. 375 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: But now there's a petition that has over four million 376 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: people on change dot org and apparently changed dot org 377 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: said it was their largest petition this year, and it's 378 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: asking Colorado Governor Jared Polis to grant clemency for Rohell 379 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: and his prison sentence. I think that you know this. 380 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: This has been going on for a while because the 381 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: petition was created three years ago, but the trial just 382 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: came to a head. Apparently he didn't accept a plea deal. 383 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: There was a plea bargain on the table and he 384 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: didn't take it, and then the worst thing imagina will happen. 385 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: He got a hue years and you can see in 386 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: his testimony he's sobbing. He's like, I wish it was me. 387 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: I wish every day it was me. I can't believe 388 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: why why did they die and I lived? You know, 389 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: he has survivors guilt. It's clear that it was an 390 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: accident and he panicked and made some poor choices that 391 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: could happen to anyone, Well, you said it yourself. He's 392 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: twenty three years old and he made mistakes. He wasn't 393 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: on drugs, he wasn't drunk, he wasn't being reckless. It's 394 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: like years for for somebody that a young kid that 395 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: made a mistake, like and not even like other people say, 396 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: like I made mistakes, I went drinking driving. That's not 397 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: even this. And to that judge, I say, if if 398 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: this the the last few years have taught us anything, 399 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: don't give me the it's I'm unfortunately my hands of time. 400 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: It's mandatory that I do this. Nobody does anything that 401 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: they have to do anymore. And I don't mean that 402 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: like in a shitty way, but there are ways around stuff. 403 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: Your job is to is to make the decision based 404 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: on all factors. Yes, and I mean Kyle Rittenhouse killed 405 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: three people intentionally, almost allegedly, not intentionally, and it's completely 406 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: free and this person giving motivational speeches m hm and 407 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: and okay. So apparently though there is a little bit 408 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: of hope, the tiniest bit a glimmer, because apparently, in 409 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: Colorado judges are allowed to revisit sentences after a hundred 410 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: nineteen days in jail. And that's a mandatory minimum sentencing long. 411 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see if the public really pulls 412 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: together and protests us, and maybe they will diminish his sentence. 413 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm on December, so hundred and nineteen days post. That's 414 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: not that far out. No, it's a third of a year, yeah, 415 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: which in these days goes by very quickly, very quickly. Yeah, 416 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not missing much out here. I love 417 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: the way you always, no matter how tense we are 418 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: with the topic, you always have a way of just 419 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: just bringing it back, making it trying to give us 420 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: a joke. And speaking of jokes, you know, we don't 421 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: know how to make the transition to why don't we 422 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: take a break then? Because I feel like all these 423 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: things could use a little breather in between, at least 424 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: for us. It's just like sex, I mean breaks. Yeah, 425 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: I have sex like a nine year old man, you know. 426 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm one minute on, one minute off. Hello, everyone, we're 427 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: back to real time crime and we've got our final 428 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: segment for you today. Dmitri has been talking a lot today, 429 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: even though we didn't really give him permission. Sometimes sometimes 430 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: in one wow, I know you're very topics. We can't 431 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: it's you take this one, Leah. All right, Teddy, I'm ready. 432 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: So many of you have probably heard about this already 433 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: from Snoop Dogg's Instagram, but we are going to be 434 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: discussing Drakio the Ruler. So Darryl Wayne Calledwell professionally known 435 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: as Drakio the Ruler, He was a twenty year old 436 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: American rapper and songwriter. He was known for his unique 437 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: flow with people said was like oddly expressive, and he's 438 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: very poetic word choices. And he was um facing a 439 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: lot of legal issues in the past. So in seventeen 440 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: he was arrested by l a p D. They rated 441 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: his condo, a place where he regularly shot music videos, 442 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: and he was held in jail when he was charged 443 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: with unlawful possession of a firearm by felony. Then he 444 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: was released shortly after, and in ten he was arrested again. 445 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: This time he was charged with first degree murder, attempted murder, 446 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: and conspiracy to commit murder. The charges stemmed from twenty 447 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: sixteen shooting in Carson, California, where one person was killed 448 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: and two were injured. He was facing life in prison, 449 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: and then in July nineteen he was acquitted of his 450 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: murder and attempted murder charges. However, the district attorney decided 451 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: to refile charges of criminal gang conspiracy and shooting from 452 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: a motor vehicle in August, two counts that resulted in 453 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: a hung jury during his trial. He was released from 454 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: jail in November after the District attorney office offered him 455 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: a plea deal following three years incarceration. This a little backstory. UM, 456 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: I just want to let you guys know that if 457 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: you have watched my Instagram stories and you know how 458 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: mentally ill I am. I got real caught up on 459 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: the words hung jury last night. My face when you did, 460 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: I was like, uh, she was still excited. She's like, Hans, 461 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: tell me you haven't had sex without telling me you 462 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: haven't had sex. Um, I am so okay, I'm fine. Okay. 463 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: So so let's get to what occurred. He was stabbed 464 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: backstage at around eight thirty pm on December during the 465 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: Once Upon a Time in l A concert, and Snoop 466 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: Dogg and were set to headline never performed. They basically 467 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: left immediately after they heard about the incident, which was 468 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: at the Bank of Cali Fornia Stadium. There were some 469 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: eyewitness reports saying that he was stabbed in the neck, 470 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: others saying he was stabbed in the head. It is 471 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: still unclear where he was stabbed. Paramedics came ort around 472 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: eight forty and transported him to the hospital and critical condition, 473 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: where he was later pronounced dead of his wounds at 474 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: the hospital. There has been no arrest made. No one 475 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: is in custody yet. Snoop Dogg made an announcement on 476 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: Instagram and saying that you know, he was deeply sorry 477 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: that um about what occurred into all the families, and 478 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the show had to be canceled. The 479 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: show could not go on after that. Okay, how has 480 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: there not been any arrests or anything. I don't understand. 481 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: Like I've been, I've been. I was about to be like, 482 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: but I've been backstage a million times. There are so 483 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: many people bustling around back there. This is not something 484 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: that it's like. And cameras, I mean, I don't know that. 485 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: There's always cameras. I don't know. Never mind, I mean, 486 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, but even no matter where 487 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: you go, if you're walking around backstage, normally everybody performing 488 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: has a handler with them. Of some sort. Then there's publicity, 489 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: then there's security, then that like, so, how is this happening? 490 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: My other question is if a few different people have 491 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: different accounts of how it went down. They saw him 492 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: get stabbed in the head, they saw him get stabbed 493 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: in the throat, that means that they saw the person 494 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: or people who were part of this altercation. So why 495 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: is no one talking. Or Leah's theory, I think that 496 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: he because of his prior trouble with the law, there 497 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: may have been a larger play for the police, and 498 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: maybe they are looping this into a larger crime that 499 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: or I mean, maybe he started it. He still did 500 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: get murdered. He did. We just don't know any information, 501 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: and our job as social crime sluits are to give 502 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: all of the things. Maybe nobody's been arrested because somebody 503 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: was questioned because it was in self defense. Oh that's interesting. 504 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: Oh what if it was self defense? I mean, that's 505 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: a pretty good Kyle Rittenhouse argument if I ever heard one. 506 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't know. Obviously, there's not there's 507 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 1: not very much information on this case. There's not very 508 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: much information. We don't know who was present, we don't 509 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: know We don't have any footage, we don't have any photos. 510 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: All we know is that Snoop Dogg I mean announcement 511 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: and that Drako is no longer with us. That's basically 512 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: the extent to which we know. We also know that 513 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: this is different than Astro World because somebody found out 514 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: that there was a death, they canceled the rest of 515 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: the uh concert. I mean, this is something also that 516 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: makes me a little bit confused when we go back 517 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: to some of the earlier cases that we talked about, 518 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: Like all the cases that we've talked about, why are 519 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: some things that you're involved in mean that you're done working, 520 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: you're canceled from everything, and then some things you can 521 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: have a huge list of things you've almost gotten life 522 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: sentenced for and then still be showing up and booking 523 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: a big job like that. It's a good question. I 524 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: don't have any answer to that. And we see this 525 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: along though, you know, I mean, uh, it's interesting because 526 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: I was going to say, if those crimes had been committed, 527 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, seven years ago. People change, and all the 528 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: cells in your bodies change every seven years, so but 529 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: these were pretty recent times. Two thousand seventeen, two thousand eighteen, 530 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. I've got no excuse, and then we 531 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: were inside for two years, so what's to say that 532 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: crimes would still have continued? He committed those crimes during Yeah, 533 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, there's a lot going on, 534 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: but I don't know. All of these conversations is starting 535 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: to make me worried about going to concerts. Interesting or 536 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: you know what, You're right? You want to believe that 537 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: it's like because everything I go to my kids, like, 538 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: let when they're fifteen years old, the like our sixteen 539 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: years old, the likelihood that they're gonna want to go 540 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: with their mom to a concert is probably not high. 541 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: So you want to assume that you are sending them 542 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: to a safe place that's very secure. So what precautions 543 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: are being taken at these events? I wouldn't say a 544 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: concert festival, you know, bigger festivals where more people are 545 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: going to attend because there's more headliners. What are the 546 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: security precautions? I can I can say from personal experience 547 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: from going to I don't even know. I mean, I 548 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but from 549 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: going to jingle Ball, there are people on every single door. 550 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: There are people I mean there's someone checking before you 551 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: go in the bathroom, like there is no place that 552 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: you can go and there's nothing that you can do undetected. Yeah, 553 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: same thing with I heard festival is I felt I've 554 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: never felt safer. So what ball is being dropped in 555 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: these situations that it's so easy for these crimes? Cherker, 556 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe people just need to go to concerts 557 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: in the metaverse where it's safe. And what I'll never understand. 558 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: Remember how I texted you the other day ask me 559 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: about n f T s and then I got I 560 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: got sidetracked and realized I'll never be able to understand, 561 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: so I have to continue on not knowing. Yeah, and 562 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: then I was. And then I was awarded Entertainer of 563 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: the Year by Time magazine and an n f T. 564 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: I would have congratulated you, but I have no idea 565 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: what it means. But congratulations now that we're face to face, 566 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: that is. It was honestly pretty cool. I did cry, 567 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: but I'll cry over everything if you guys can imagine that. 568 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: And we haven't seen you cry yet. Goals for next week? Really, 569 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: I think I cried when I said Joan Rivers his 570 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: name too many times, said Babs. Yeah, also Babs the 571 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: same effect, don't okay? Um, But but I also think, 572 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, having very conservative parents growing up, I had 573 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: the fear of God instilled in me, and UM never 574 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: did anything. So I suggest living in a bubble and 575 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: living in fear of your life and you'll nothing bad 576 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: will ever happen to you, because nothing will ever happen. Well, 577 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: I broke my teeth out at a concert. Actually I was. 578 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: I was either in the eighth or the ninth grade, 579 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: and I was at a widespread panic concert. Wow, go on, 580 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean I was probably like 581 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: drinking Boone's farm, let's be honest, um, And I put 582 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: somebody on my back as if I was a horse 583 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: and was cantering and trying to jump the railroad track 584 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: outside of the widespread Panic show and tripped and broke 585 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: my teeth out. And when I got back to the house, 586 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: my mom was like, well, you're just gonna have to 587 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,479 Speaker 1: wait it out, because like when I remember like having 588 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: to put candle wax on these two, like these three 589 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: broken teeth right here. Like I mean, who would have 590 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: thought drinking Boone's farm and taking someone on your back 591 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: and pretending to be a horse could end badly. Wait, 592 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: I'm stuck on the candle wax on your teeth part 593 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: George Washington. Well, no, because my roots were all exposed 594 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: and it was hurting every time I breathed. So I 595 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: came home and I was like, why d it was 596 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. I just got home. 597 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? Go to the e R 598 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: made it sounds like, well, if it hurts, you made 599 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: it sound like you like, this is what you had 600 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: to do until they grew in my grow and apparently 601 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: you thought so oh yeah, um yeah, So don't you know, 602 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: maybe don't drink Boone's farm and pretend you're an animal 603 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: and try to jump around on tracks. Also pot tips 604 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: by Cheddy we can do another day. Wow, thank you 605 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, I mean my only on my one 606 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: thing I did was I lied to my mom said 607 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: I was sleeping at my friend's house. And we went 608 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: to New Jersey to see Avril Levine in concert, and 609 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: I wore black and wife beater with a black tie 610 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: and we were like, oh, we're gonna be so cool, 611 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna look like ABRI's gonna be so punk, and 612 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: I just want, let you know, nothing about me was 613 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: punk at the stage of my life. I was wearing 614 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: like pink juicy sweatpants and we show up and we y, 615 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: we think everyone's going to look like that, And everyone 616 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: was just dressed like cute little girls from Jersey and 617 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: like jeans and cute tops. And I hate trying to Yeah, 618 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: it was your shot. She could have brought you on 619 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 1: stage as a double things. You never know what's happening. Yeah, 620 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: So anyway, um, listen to your parents, listen to your parents. 621 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: Don't do any of the things that Lee and I do. 622 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't really. I mean, who knows what Dmitri does. 623 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: He's he's a wild one. Now, I was a good kid. 624 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: I feel like Dmitri was born this age never age. 625 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: Can't you submit a photo of what you looked like 626 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: as a child. I need to know I face, Yes, 627 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: I had no beard. I had hair on top. The 628 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: hair just slid down over the years. So, Dmitri, I 629 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: still think you're AI. Like, I'm not convinced your person 630 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: intelligence is easily artificial. Yes, you're compared to us. He's 631 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: a genius. Okay, So anyways, you guys, can we take 632 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: one more break? Let's take one more Just a little 633 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: bit of something if it's a little business to take 634 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: care of. Oh yes, yes we can. All right back, 635 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: We'll just take one last break and we're back, and 636 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: we're back to tell you about something incredible. You guys, 637 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of ghost Town, but 638 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: the ghost Town Pod is amazing. Ghost Town is a comedic, 639 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: strange history podcast that covers true crime, paranormal mysteries, satanism, 640 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: underground cultural phenomena, and everything in between. Co host Rebecca 641 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: is a true crime paranormal TV producer, inside look cases 642 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: and events not often covered on podcasts. Co host Jason 643 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: as an author and expert in underground culture. Ghost Town 644 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: episodes released twice a week Wednesday and Friday, so go 645 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: check them out. Check out ghost Town on Apple Podcasts 646 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to podcasts, and of course, remember 647 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: to send people this episode. Tell your friends about us. 648 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to actually try something. I would like for 649 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: everyone to go to my most recent Instagram real It's 650 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: a real with me, Teddy and Dmitri, and I would 651 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: like for you to just write sleuth on it. I 652 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: want to see who's listening and paying attention. Well, obviously 653 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: not me. I'm not. I'm I didn't even know there 654 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: was one. I posted it like an hour ago. I 655 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: was like, I'm the worst. The cover Just so people 656 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: are clear, the cover of the real is uh Me 657 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: on Business Insider, so it's not Teddy and Dmitri. But 658 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm gonna plug us all but really, I'm 659 00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: just plugging myself that I anyways, don't worry about Dremitri 660 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: and I follow Leah like her post Tama how great 661 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: she is, and we'll just go kick rocks outside. No, guys, 662 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: I just want to also remind you you gotta call 663 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: us calling live, okay, leave us a voicemail eight six 664 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: six one crime. That's eight six six twenty one crime 665 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 1: eight six six twenty one crime eight six six two 666 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: one two seven four six three. If you see something, 667 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: say something to us. No. Look, everyone, have a great Christmas. 668 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: Happy harnakah to alma Jews out there. I know it's 669 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: already over, but just I was like, hold on, I'm 670 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: not sure if I'm pretty sure that those days are gone. 671 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Oh my god, happy to hear you guys. 672 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: Happy New Year. But two, I feel like it's gonna 673 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: be twenty again I know, but thrilled. Well, I'll see 674 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: you guys. What is it the people say on the 675 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: flip side? Are you dying? Guys? Stay safe? Okay, stay 676 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: safe over the holidays. By love you guys. Bye. It's 677 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: real time grad. It real time grad. I mean, is 678 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: it actually real time crime? I'm solving anything? Or is 679 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: that just the thing we say, It's a thing we say, 680 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: got it? Okay, see you next week for more real 681 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: time crime, only on I Horror Radio.