1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: From Isadara, Nola and welcome to The Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Good morning everybody, The Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: Todd z Alecki. It's Wednesday. What is the day, April sixteenth, 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: twenty five. Yes, thank you Ruben for the assists. I mean, 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: we get up early to record The Philly Show. So 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: we've got I've got my morning coffee. Everybody's had their coffee. Jimmy, 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: have you had your coffee. 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: I'm working on my brother. 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: There we go, Buddy, there we go. Philly's with the 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: win last night they beat the San Francisco Giants. And 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: what happens in that game, gentlemen, You see Alec Bohm 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: with a big hit. You see Brandon Marsh with a 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: sack fly to give them a two nothing lead early 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: in the game. Alec Bohm's head, of course, gave them 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: the lead late in the game. And and in Casey's 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: been missing it, both of those guys have been struggling 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: a little bit. They've been a hot topic in the 18 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: in the Delaware Valley and contributed to a win. 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: And they strung some hits together. Everything doesn't have to 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: fly over the wall. You know, you don't have to. 21 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: You don't have to try to drive everything over the wall. 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Though it was a big home run by Bryce Harper, 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: certainly nice to see. 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: But they strung some hits together. 25 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: They got a nice assist from the Giants left fielder. 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get to that ball if I 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: was er Lander, very learned. It didn't look very happy, 28 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: but nonetheless much needed win and contributions from Bom and 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: Marsh were nice to see. I really was taken with 30 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: Baum's postgame interview with the TV crew with you and 31 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: Tom Rubin. I thought I just saw some I just 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: saw some human side. He smiled, he brought up his struggles. 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: He was very self aware and like accountable, and he 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: showed his personality. He showed that he's a really good guy. 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: He is a good guy. He showed some humility and 36 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: seemed to exhale a little bit. So hopefully that helps 37 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: him going forward because he's such an important bat in 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: that lineup. 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt a lot to him. Pack Let's stay 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 4: on bone for now. Great interview. I think that was 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: a great observation, Jim. I think that you know, he 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: talked about him being horrible, drew a lot kind of 43 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: laughed about it and such. 44 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 5: I think that's what you have to do, and. 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 4: It's really hard to do when you haven't you've never 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 4: been through it. He's never really been through anything like 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 4: that in his career. 48 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 5: I'm certain of it. 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm talking about miners, I'm talking about high school, 50 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 4: I'm talking whatever. And so it's it's difficult when the 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 4: expectation is super super high. 52 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 5: I've been through it as a player who was didn't. 53 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: Have as high an expectation, and it's I mean, you 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: go home. It's like you want to kick your dog. 55 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: It's serious. It's difficult. I've gone through the two for 56 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 4: you know, two for fifty two. It's awful and it's 57 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: hard to dig out of that. 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 5: But he has a. 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: Ton of talent, and you know, we talk about it 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 4: all the time. Back of the baseball card, I know 61 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: that there was you know, there's so many different narratives 62 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: because he got benched in the playoffs and all this stuff, 63 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 4: and you know, he tends to be emotional and he's 64 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: got to grow through that. 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 5: But but these are human beings, don't forget not widgets. 66 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 5: There's still human beings. And the fact that he you know, 67 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 5: got a big base. 68 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: It probably lifted a little lot. I'll atross off his 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: shoulder a little bit. I think that's a huge thing. 70 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: There's also some tons of things to unpack about the 71 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: game yesterday. I thought Max Kepler had tremendous at bats. 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: He hit four bullets. He looked very sharp, excellent on defense. 73 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: The man can play some left field now right out 74 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: of the shoe, makes a great diving play that sort 75 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: of lets lose art to exhale. 76 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 5: A lot of stuff going on. 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: That will probably hit a little bit later on once 78 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: we get to a commercial break here. 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: But while he got you on Kepler, if they can 80 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: come up with a legitimate right handed. 81 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: Bat out there in left field, would. 82 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: You look at a pure platoon there. It might really 83 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: be beneficial to the team. If they could find the 84 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: right right handed bat. 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 5: You might find it in West and Wilson maybe, but I. 86 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 4: Think that they I honestly think that Kepler has some 87 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: pretty decent I know he hasn't had greater at bats against. 88 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 5: Him yet, but he's not bad against left handers. Man, 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 5: And when he gets right. I like this guy. I 90 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 5: like the way he swings the bat. I like his approach. 91 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 4: He's looked like a lot more like he was in 92 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: spring training yesterday than he was than he has been 93 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: all year. 94 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 3: So yeah, I definitely swung it. 95 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 5: Well, you got to get these guys some at bats. 96 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: Hit three balls last night, rubyen over one hundred miles 97 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: an hour. 98 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: Thank you. 99 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: You go, line out, line out double Yeah. Yeah. 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: Two bullets to the infield that could have been hits. Yeah, 101 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 4: one to Stuart and one do just that. I mean 102 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 4: that when you're doing that, that means you're on it. 103 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: You're on it, and I like it. And it's you know, 104 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: obviously big that Harper hit the home run, because he 105 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: always sort of seems to come through somehow, some way. 106 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: But going back to Boem, it's so important for him 107 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: to realize. 108 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 5: How good he is. 109 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 4: The reality of it is this, the man is a 110 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: really good hitter. He's probably their best pure hitter other 111 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: than Harper in the lineup as far as just being 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 4: able to manage the strike zone and hit the balls, 113 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 4: hit balls through the middle of. 114 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 5: The field and to produce runs. And so they need him. 115 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 4: It's nice to see Castiano's doing his thing because he's 116 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: sort of picking up where Boem was left off. But 117 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: they need him in the lineup because they need the 118 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: length and they need him to have success. 119 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: That's kind of the thing that I understand why he 120 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: got frustrated. I hit it because you know, he sees 121 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: the batting average up there and it's terrible. He sees 122 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: the ops, it's terrible, embarrassing. Yeah, I mean, so I 123 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: get that frustration. But the one thing I kind of 124 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, confused me. But he was hitting the 125 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: ball legitimately hard those first few weeks of the season. 126 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: So the way so as hard as he took it, 127 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: that part I was like, you know, you aren't hitting 128 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: the ball. Well, it's not like you're swinging and missing 129 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: and everything and rolling over everything. He you know, So 130 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: that part, you know, maybe this will kind of get 131 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: him out of it and get him in the right 132 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: frame of mind, because clearly he's somebody that needs to 133 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: be in the right frame of mind and and to 134 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: get that hit. After he hit that inning ending double play, 135 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: I think it was in the in the fourth inning, 136 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: I think was big for me. Heard he heard a 137 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: lot of booze after that inning ending double play. Yeah, 138 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: and so you know, this is Philly man, so he 139 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: heard some booze. You know early in the game, and 140 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: and uh certainly after that ground that that that double play, 141 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: and then boom he hit the big hit and everybody 142 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: loves you again. 143 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: This is Philly where the frowns can be turned upside 144 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: down with one swing of the bat. 145 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 5: Hey, I will tell you, Hey, listen, Dave, you're right. 146 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: Dave Hollins once had like a three for three day, 147 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: had a couple of home runs, came up with the 148 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: bases loaded, had like six or seven RBIs already and 149 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: the game was won. He comes up and the bases 150 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: loaded again, you know, and the crowd's fired up for him. 151 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 5: He's gonna have ten you know, RBIs you know, grounds 152 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: out or something. They bow his ass. I mean, come on, 153 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 5: I like it, you know, going going way back to 154 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 5: Scott Rowling. 155 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: I mean they boot him all home stand he hits 156 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: a big bomb. He doesn't want to come out for 157 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: a curtain call because he's like, you know, stick. 158 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: To your boo. 159 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: That's right. I do remember reading about that and hear 160 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: about that. 161 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: We will be right back. 162 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 5: AJ. 163 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 6: It is time for people to get some new clubs, 164 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 6: and to do that, they need to go to their 165 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 6: local p XCHI for a fitting, right no doubt. 166 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 7: I was there today. I've been there before. Last time 167 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 7: I was there, they gave me this killer gap. I 168 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 7: just look at that sweet spot, Scott. It is worn out. 169 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 7: That is right in the sweet spot right there. So 170 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 7: I went and got new club today, new irons. But 171 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 7: more importantly, I got this bad boy. I got me 172 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 7: a new putter. This is my old putter. It's on order. Yes, 173 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 7: that's my putter cover PXG Mustang putter. Now I'm going 174 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 7: to the Allen putter. They talked me into it because 175 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 7: I was draining some putts today. Bob, the guy who 176 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 7: helped me out, he helped me with my irons. He 177 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 7: got him ted up perfectly. But then we went to 178 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 7: the putt and green. I was draining them putts because 179 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 7: that's the most important part of golf. 180 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 6: PXG fittings are fun. 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And 191 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: we also talked to Bryce Harper after the game and 192 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: I thought he said something interesting talking about Bom and 193 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: also Marsh. And I would kind of read a little 194 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: bit at this to you said, I just want him 195 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: to enjoy the game. He's talking about Brandon Marsh. He 196 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: says life could be a lot harder, life can be 197 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: a lot tougher. We get to play this beautiful game 198 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: every day. I was standing in the on deck circle 199 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: in the third inning and I was thinking about it. Man, 200 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: it's a great game we get to play. Obviously, life's 201 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: he get ups and downs. It's a hard thing to do. 202 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: It is, but the end of the day, we're all healthy, 203 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: we're all strong. Just go out there and enjoy it 204 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: because it'll go quick and you'll start thinking yourself, why 205 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: did I take it so serious? And it's gone now? 206 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: And I thought that was very philosophical. 207 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: Very philosophical. It was Matt Gelb goes why are you 208 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: thinking about this? In the on deck circle in the 209 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: third inning, he said, I don't know, just thinking about 210 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: I was just thinking about it during the game. But uh, 211 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: it made so much sense because I hear players talk 212 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: about that all the time. I remember when I was 213 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: working on my on the Roy Halliday book and I 214 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: was talking with Kyle Kendrick and he said something almost 215 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: exactly like this. He was talking about when he was 216 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: a player, he had so many things running through his head. 217 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: He wishes he could kind of go back and like 218 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: not have a due over, but just you know, not 219 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: a complete do over. But he said, I just remember 220 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 2: worrying about making the manager happy, making the coaches happy. 221 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: You know, does the media think I suck? Do the 222 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: fans think I suck? You know, do my teammates think 223 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: I suck? You know? What do I need to do 224 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: to make these guys happy? 225 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: You know? 226 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: Am I doing what I need to do for these 227 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: people instead of just like going out and focusing and 228 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: pitching and you know, just just having more fun and 229 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: like being in the moment more and me I think 230 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: that I think that is a lot of what has 231 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: been going on with Bowman marsh. 232 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: Jamie Moore er Jamie Moore used to say the same 233 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: thing about early in his career. I mean, he'd established 234 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: himself till he was like thirty thirty one, and he 235 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: had been you know, up and down on the miners, 236 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: had been traded, he'd been released. And I remember talking 237 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: to him about him turning around his career and he 238 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: just said, I stopped stressing about everything. 239 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: I stopped stressing about everything. 240 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: And when I see those Harper quotes in your story 241 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: this morning there, it was a great story, and you 242 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: know the quotes were to me were really telling. It 243 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: was Bryce Harper's basically saying this team is stressing and pressing, 244 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: like you know what, and he needs to stop. 245 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: And you know, I agree. 246 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: I think pressing has knocked him out of the last 247 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: two playoffs. I think that's the reason they expand the 248 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: strikestone and they chase it. Everything they're swinging out of 249 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: the hand. And because of the expectations and the stress 250 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: and the pressing, and it's a big town with big expectations, 251 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: pressure pack, it's tough place to play. But you know, 252 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: you need to come back and you need to bring 253 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: out the boy in you and just kind of love 254 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: the game. And not worry about all the outside noise 255 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: and then you'll get your best performance. And I think 256 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: that's kind of what Harper was saying. This team that 257 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: presses a lot, and you know, you want to play 258 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: in a place like this with big expectations and big attention. 259 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: This is what you grow up dreaming about. You know, 260 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: you don't dream about. You don't grow up dreaming about 261 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: playing in front of empty stadiums in front of three 262 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: thousand people. You grow up dreaming about playing in front 263 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: of forty five thousand people that want to win a 264 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: World Series and everybody wants it so bad. 265 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: But the performers are human beings too. 266 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: And they stress and they press, and I think we've 267 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: seen a lot of that, Like I said, this year 268 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: and in a lot of the last two Octobers. 269 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: This is Harper's way of saying, you. 270 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: Gotta flush it and deal with it, and even admitted 271 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: that he deals with it, which was good too. 272 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a living, breathing example of that. 273 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: And even in fact, I bet you know Bryce Harper 274 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 4: went in the early part of his career. I mean, 275 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: if you watched him and watched his emotion in the game, 276 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: like like when he did not get a hit. He 277 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 4: would drag that bat or he struck, he dragged that 278 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 4: bat back to that dougout because he never did not 279 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 4: have success. I mean, he was Bryce Harper and so 280 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 4: I know what it feels like. It's a difficult thing 281 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: to deal with. You go home embarrassed. 282 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 283 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: You know, those opers really take a serious toll on 284 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: you unless you stop for a minute. And it's hard 285 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: to do it in the moment and say take a 286 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: breather and go. You know what, One, I'm a great 287 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: player still. And two, this is a game, man, This 288 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: is not life. 289 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: It's a game. It was it was it was interesting, 290 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: interesting comments. And Brandon Marsh last night as well, talking 291 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: about about his struggles and he seems to be on 292 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: the right track. I want to ask you, guys, what'd 293 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: you think of that that three day respite that he got. So, yeah, 294 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: that's what I was gonna ask you, Jim, because so 295 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: Monday before the game, you know, Marsh's not in the lineup. 296 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: It's Johann Rojas And by all accounts, you know, we 297 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: always try to read between you know, read the tea 298 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: leaves there, and man, I'm telling you, I thought Brandon 299 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: Marsh was sitting three days because yeah, right, Rob Thompson 300 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: said he's gonna rest a day or two, and then 301 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: then he's like and then there's a lefty on Wednesday. 302 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, he's gonna sit the next three days. 303 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: And I totally got it. And then Johann Rojas on 304 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: Monday night goes zero for three with three strikeouts, two 305 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: of them with runners in scoring position, did not have 306 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: good at bats, and then get to the ballpark on 307 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: Tuesday and boom, Brandon marsh is back in the lineup. 308 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: And so Rob Thompson tells us that it's because Brandon 309 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: marsh had a great day of work on Monday and 310 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: he seemed to clear his head. And I'm sitting there going, 311 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: I wonder if Johan Rojas had a better day on Monday, if. 312 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: Johan Rojas didn't have a great day of work. 313 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, Jim, what was your reaction to, uh, 314 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: seeing Brandon Marshall, You're as surprised as I was, Rubens 315 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: surprise as I was. 316 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: I was stunned because you know, I've seen manager's employee, 317 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: a multi day break for a guy, and he was 318 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: pretty firm in that he needed a mental and physical break. 319 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: And getting two days and then with the lefty maybe 320 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: three days kind of a reset, and then all of 321 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, he you know, Rojas is out of the lineup. 322 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't blame him there. Those were too 323 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: horrible at bats with you know, the game on the line. 324 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: Jim, do you think if the Ross got two knocks, 325 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: if he would have gotten that extra That's that's. 326 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: A great question. 327 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: If Rojas gets two hits there, yes, I do. I 328 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: think he's in the lineup. If he has good at 329 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: bats there, I think he's probably still in the lineup. 330 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: I think his good day of work supersedes March is 331 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: good day of work in the batting cage. So if so, 332 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: because are you telling me if if if Rojas was 333 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: four for four in that game, you're gonna sit him? 334 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: No way, no way. I I just thought, hey, look, 335 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: you know. 336 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 5: That was a. 337 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: To me, it's a strong vote. 338 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: Of no confidence in Rojas that that you you sit them, 339 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: you know that quick? 340 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: You put marsh in back that that quick. 341 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: And I'm fine with it because those are those were 342 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: you gotta win ball games, and you're not gonna win 343 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: ball games when you can't pick up spin and and 344 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: you can't give better at bats with runners of the 345 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: scoring position. But I I personally think it had more 346 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: to do with Rojas's I mean, I like your choice 347 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: of words, Marsh had a great work day. I think 348 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: I had more to do that that Rojas had a 349 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: bad work day. 350 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: Okay, you no, I mean I listen, I sort of 351 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 4: take Rob Thompson a face value that that that he 352 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 4: felt confident in Marsh. But listen, there's a human element 353 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 4: to those managers too. He wants to win baseball games, 354 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: and so maybe there is a little bit of that. 355 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 5: Who knows, the only God knows. 356 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: Do you think is back in there if he goes 357 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: two for two in those situations? 358 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: I think he probably is. 359 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 360 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just think this had more to do 361 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: with row Host than Marsh. 362 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 3: And you know that's fine. 363 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean, managers allowed to change their course when they 364 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: feel it's the right thing for their ball club, and 365 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: I'm just not sure sending Rojas back out there was 366 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 1: after that game the night before was the right thing 367 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: to do for the ball club. But to me, it 368 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: could have longer range impact. I mean, like you're basically 369 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: just saying this guy is an extra outfielder and I 370 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: still think center field is in a lot of ways, 371 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: not even in a lot of ways. I think it's 372 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: a sinkhole that they're gonna have to address. 373 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: Just staying on Rojas, it was such a disappointing at 374 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 4: that just because if you watch the other side, and 375 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: I talked to Pat Burrow a lot about this before 376 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 4: the series started, because he's. 377 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 5: The hitting coach over there with San Francisco, and you. 378 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 4: See these guys with two strikes, even before two strikes, 379 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 4: choking up, just trying to put the ball in play. 380 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 4: He said to them, listen, guys, because he knows that 381 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 4: his team. We don't have a lot of power on 382 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 4: this team. We got to go gap to gap in 383 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 4: this big ballpark there at Oracle Park. It's a big ballpark. 384 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 4: You're not gott a lot of home runs there unless 385 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 4: you're Barry Bonds. And there's no Arry Bonds is on 386 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 4: that team. And I think that their approach has been 387 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 4: pretty good. They slug it because they use gap to 388 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: gap and they hit balls. They've got a ton of doubles, 389 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 4: and I think that's one of the things that a 390 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 4: guy like Johann Rojas has to do to be a 391 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: more complete player. 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The reading through a lot of the 429 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 2: questions last night, you can kind of tell what's on 430 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: the mind of the fan base for sure, right and 431 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: and a lot a lot of questions on centerfield. Got 432 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 2: a lot of questions on Justin Crawford and what they're 433 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 2: gonna do in centerfield, either internally or externally. So let's 434 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: start with this, does the centerfield situation accelerate? Justin Crawford 435 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: coming up one way or another? If so? When that's 436 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: from Xander Hunt forty four on Instagram, I you know. 437 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: I asked around about this the other day and they're 438 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: not ready to do anything on Crawford. It's not they're 439 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: not there yet, but he is on the radar for 440 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five at some point in this season, depending 441 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: on his performance. But I just the way I see 442 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: center field shaping up what you've gotten out of it 443 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: now for over a year, over a season, I think 444 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna need to be addressed at some point. Whether 445 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: it's whether Crawford is the answer later in the season, 446 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Like I said, they're not there yet, whether some type 447 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: of an upgrade comes from from outside. I don't know 448 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: whether you know, marsh finally gets together against right handers 449 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: and there's some type of platoon situation in or out, 450 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: but it's definitely something that they're watching. And you know, 451 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: I don't rule out a guy like I would keep 452 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: an eye on that auto camp to see if he 453 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: plays any left field in Triple A, any left field, 454 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna play center field. He's not a really good defender. 455 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: That's he's not a it's not a strong suit. He's 456 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: more of a corner infield. It has played a little 457 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: bit of left field. I keep an eye on Wilson, 458 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: West and Wilson those could be those guys I was 459 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: alluding to if Kepler doesn't hit lefties consistently, I think 460 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: it might be an attractive platoon. Kepitla is still going 461 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: to get the majority of that bats if they did 462 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: something like that, and if they needed a left handed 463 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: corner bat Ringconas who is on the forty I believe 464 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: would be ahead of. 465 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: Would be, you know, on the pecking order. 466 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: But Crawford's more down the line, very much on the radar, 467 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: but more down the line. 468 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 5: I don't see these guys. 469 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: Wes Wes Wilson had a play to rehab game, go. 470 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 5: Ahead, go ahead it. 471 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: I was gonna say. 472 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: West Wilson last night or yesterday afternoon played his first 473 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: rehab game with with Lehigh Valley, had a couple of hits. 474 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: I think it was a double in the tri So 475 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: he's getting closer. He is getting closer. 476 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Weston Wilson is an option at some 477 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: point when he's ready to go. He needs some at bats, 478 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 4: he needs a full spring training. Talk to Rob Thompson 479 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: about that. So I don't think they're gonna necessarily push 480 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: him forward. I mean he might play some centerfield. Who 481 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 4: knows he's got the athleticism. Listen, here's here's the thing. 482 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: They got to give Justin Crawford, and they got to 483 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: give Brandon Marsh some time to iron some things out. 484 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 4: Crawford's got to develop, and Marsh has to prove to 485 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: them that he can be a center fielder every day 486 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 4: in center in the major leagues. He's going to get 487 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 4: that opportunity. He's going to have to brush off this 488 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 4: this past start that he's had, which has been terrible 489 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 4: after a really good spring, and he's going to have 490 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: to take it to the big leagues and he's got 491 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 4: to play with it in the big leagues and perform, 492 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 4: because guess what, it's a performance based deal. One of 493 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 4: the reasons why he's such a lightning rod right now 494 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: is because and Boehm's well one, Boem is different because 495 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: the expectations higher on the guy. But with Marsh, he's 496 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: sort of under the microscope because he hasn't really done it. 497 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: He's had some levels of success, but he has you know, 498 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: he hasn't done it. And the other the other you know, 499 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: players on the team have not really started swinging the 500 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 4: bat either, So so the lightning rods on him and 501 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 4: he's gonna have to perform, and if he doesn't day, 502 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 4: Dombrowski's gonna make a change. 503 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 5: He's not gonna sit on his hands. 504 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you that now that their hell bent 505 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 4: on winning. And if these guys don't perform and he 506 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 4: doesn't start enjoying the game again and playing the way 507 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: he can because he's got a lot of ability, then 508 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: they're make a change. 509 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: You know who else would make a change? You when 510 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 3: you were the GM. 511 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: When you were the GM, you and Scott Profrock and 512 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: you're in Mike Condo would be upstairs right now mid April, 513 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: looking forward saying we might have an issue here. 514 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: How are we going to address this? 515 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: If it doesn't straight now, you would be all already 516 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: having plans and work in the works. 517 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: You and Pat Gillick would have plans in the work. 518 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: You guys would have the foresight to be looking long 519 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: range to say, if this doesn't straighten out, it's been 520 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: it's been a while here. If this doesn't straighten out, 521 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: what's our plan? 522 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: ABC? And I'm sure those. 523 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: Those conversations are taking place upstairs at Citizens Bank Park, 524 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: And you know it's up to Brandon Marsh to make 525 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: those conversations moot. 526 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: Amen, let's let's do one more and this let's do 527 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: eight more. Well, let's do let's let's do one more 528 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: and then we'll try to get to a few more. 529 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 2: Uh maybe later this week. But a lot of people 530 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: upset with Rob Thompson right now because the team is 531 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: in a in a rough week three weeks in because 532 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: he didn't go out. 533 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: And punch Tony round Dozo in the face. 534 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 5: Yes, right, So here's the question. 535 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: But I want you, I want you to to address 536 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: that that that criticism. 537 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: Here's a question. 538 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: This is from keV Peteleu on Instagram. Will Topper be 539 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 2: fired at some point this season? 540 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: No? 541 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: Okay, but the only way he'll. 542 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: Be fired is if they feel like he's not getting 543 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: the most out of his team. 544 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 3: And I I I don't feel that way. 545 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't think Dave Dombrowski's up there looking like this 546 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: guy ain't getting the most out of his team. 547 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 548 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: Monday night, a lot of people wanted him to run 549 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: out there because J t Rea moved that that it 550 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: was a terrible call, thurstrike, no doubt about it. Rob 551 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: Thompson did not go out there and and uh, you know, 552 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: rip first base out and second base out of the 553 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: out of the ground and you know, kick dirt on 554 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: on Tony Randaz. So what were you guys? Uh, I 555 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: he didn't do that. 556 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: That call was awful. 557 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 5: I think he needed to do Carl was horrible. 558 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 4: It was a big call and was uh you know, 559 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 4: it was a miss and uh we've seen and there 560 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 4: was a ton of them yesterday too. 561 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 5: There was a strike right. 562 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 4: Down the middle of that Albul through the league that 563 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 4: would have ended his at bat late in the game, 564 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 4: and then Lee ended up getting a base hit. You 565 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 4: just can't miss those pitches as an umpire, but they 566 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 4: miss them all the time. And they got to start 567 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: bearing down even without the ABS system because they're not 568 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 4: bearing down the way they were bearing down in spring 569 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: training for me, and that that needs to happen all 570 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: the time. 571 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 5: Anyway, those were egregious calls. 572 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 4: Now what I will say is the team has to 573 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 4: fire themselves up. I mean, these are professionals. I mean, 574 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 4: you know, every once in a while, it's not a 575 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: bad thing for Rob to go off the handle, but 576 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: I mean that's you know, that's not his job. 577 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 5: The team has to do it themselves. 578 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: I mean Rob's got some you know, he's got a 579 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 4: lot of respect for the umpires, he knows how difficult 580 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 4: that job is, and I mean there's a time and 581 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 4: place maybe to do it, but that's not gonna I 582 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 4: mean it's we're, what sixteen seventeen games into the season, guys, 583 00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: they got to fire them. 584 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 5: They got to get themselves going themselves. 585 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 4: And yes, I know he is part of the motivation factor, 586 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: but part of it is being steady and being confident 587 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 4: in as players, which he certainly is. 588 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: And if he really wanted to get thrown out of 589 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: that game, he could have done it from writing the 590 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: dugout by just yelling, you know, a couple expectives about 591 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: how bad the call was, and he would have gotten 592 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: it the call was. He wouldn't even have to expended 593 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: any energy of walking. 594 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: Up the stairs. 595 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: He could have just honestly, four words could have could 596 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: have gotten them booted. So I mean it was late 597 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: in the game, and to me, it has to kind 598 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: of be organic and uh, something more from the gut, 599 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: more visceral like like like I said, shout forwards at 600 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: him with a couple of nice f bombs and you 601 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: could have gotten. 602 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 5: And he probably did do that, Jim, Yeah, he probably did. 603 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 5: I would assume he did, you know, But. 604 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: I wonder how the conversation between JT and and Randazzo 605 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: was when he came back out. 606 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 5: I wanted to. 607 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 4: Ask that question if we got JT on yesterday at 608 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: a BOMB because we were it was a possibility because 609 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 4: JT had such a good game that he was going 610 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 4: to be the guy he ended up being I think started. 611 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 5: A game, but we ended up getting BOM. 612 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 4: In the interview, I was gonna ask him, but I 613 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 4: didn't get a chance to ask him today. 614 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: And here's how you handle it. 615 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: You know, you go out and you kind of look 616 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: at him, and you know, Manda Man Mando Man, Rendezeo 617 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: knows he blows. 618 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: He knows he blew the of course. 619 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: And Rendeze if he's a man, said he you know 620 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: j T should just look at him and say, come on, man, 621 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: you owe me one. And the Empires has said should 622 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: say you're right that that I owe you one. So 623 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: it's like working an official in basketball. 624 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 4: You know, you get to I will I will say 625 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 4: this that I love the I love the umpires back 626 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 4: in the day when they when they and they would 627 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 4: tell you and then it sort of diffuses. It like 628 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 4: if you're at the plate and the guy guy calls 629 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 4: a strike and you look at him, you're like and 630 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: then in the interim he says, I might have missed 631 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 4: that one, Reuben. 632 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 5: What are you gonna say? 633 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: Right? 634 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 4: That diffuses the hole situ and it humanizes the empire 635 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 4: as well. 636 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 5: What are you gonna do? 637 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: Right? 638 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: I love that stuff. 639 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 5: Not a perfect it's not a perfect sigence, but the idea. 640 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: Of you know, you know, you got to flip the 641 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, tem team meetings and manager getting ejected and 642 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: every time a team is in a little bit of 643 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: a slump. You know, Charlie Manuels used to say, you know, 644 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: you do that too many times. You start getting laughed 645 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: at by your plays because you're like, oh, here he 646 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: goes again. You know. 647 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 4: So Jim's right about you know, it's got to be visceral. 648 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 4: It's got to come from the heart. It can't be contrived. 649 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: It's like Joe West told me a great story once. 650 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: I'll try to make it quick. So he's bat in third, 651 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: Steve Garvey's bet in third. Steve Garvey's betting third in 652 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: the game, and I forgot who the picture was. But 653 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, the first two outs of the game were 654 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: on first pitches, so the game just starts like that. Now, 655 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: Steve Garvey comes in and the first pitch is up here, 656 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: out of the strike zone, and Joe West goes strike one. 657 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: And the second pitch is up here out the strikes 658 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: on it. Joe West goes strike too. They're both balls. 659 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: Garvey backs out of the out of the battlest Box 660 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: pixels and Dirt wipes it off, puts his bat on 661 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: his shoulder, turns to Joe West and says, are we 662 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: ready yet? And Joe just busts out laughing because he 663 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: knows he blew these two calls because the game just started, like, 664 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, with a bang. 665 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: You know, He's like, are we ready yet? 666 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: And that shows the relationship when a good there's a 667 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: good relationship between. 668 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: The player and the umpire. 669 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: But I'm sure j T, because knowing him as a man, 670 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: I bet after a little cooling off, maybe him and 671 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: rend Dozza would have a little laugh about it. 672 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 3: At least I hope hope they will. 673 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 4: Hope I bet that Rendz went tom because they see 674 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: the pitches on their you know, afterwards, and I'm sure 675 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: they had a chat and. 676 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: I think and JT is sneaky funny too, so I'm 677 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: sure he said, might have tried to diffuse the situation. 678 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: Maybe not, but he is sneaky funny, so maybe he did. Well. Guys, 679 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: that was fun. We'll be back later this week to 680 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: wrap up the Giant series and to look ahead at 681 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: this weekend's series against the Marlins. Talk to you guys later. 682 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: Smell you later, Spell you Jim. 683 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 8: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 684 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 8: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 685 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 8: wherever you get your podcasts. If you like us, give 686 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 8: us a review, Follow us on Instagram, TikTok x, Facebook, 687 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 8: and threads. 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