1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of I Heart Radio. Hey, 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: brain Stuff lurin bog O Bomb here. Create motors and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: conversion kits are becoming popular options for breathing new life 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: into classic cars, and the latest options are a little 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: different as in their now available in electric That means 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: that if you have a classic car you'd like to 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: convert to an electric vehicle, you now have choices. In 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: the United States, such an idea might be a novelty 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: only for the most serious car collectors, but in Europe 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: several cities are discussing or implementing plans to reduce or 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: prevent gas and diesel powered cars from entering their city centers, 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: So converting a classic diesel to electric power could be 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: justified as a practical move rather than an indulgence. But 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: before we get to that first, let's back up and 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: take a look at exactly what a crate motor is. 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: A crate motor or a crate engine gets its name 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: because it's complete, brand new engine delivered in a crate. 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: It's designed to make swapping out or upgrade geting an 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: old engine relatively easy. You still need the mechanical skills 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: to perform the work, or the money to pay someone, 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: but you don't need to worry about salvaging the engine 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: from another car, and you won't discover broken or missing 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: parts while you're in the middle of the installation job. 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: Create motors are especially popular for race cars and hot rods. 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: If you have a classic or vintage car that you'd 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: like to actually get running so you can drive it, 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: and you have some cash to spare, an electric vehicle 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: conversion might be the way to go. Electric motors and 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: power trains have simpler designs than gas and diesel powered engines, 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: which means installation and maintenance is easier too, as long 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: as you are a shop in your area is familiar 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: with the work. Electric drive trains can also offer advantages 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: in torque and power, and in the end the car 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: will run much cleaner. Some auto manufacturers are so enthusiastic 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: about the possibility of converting their classic cars to electric 36 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: they're offering ways to upgrade them. In fall of twenty nineteen, 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: for instance, Volkswagen unveiled its factory conversion program and showed 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: off its own project converted nine super Beetle to generate interest. 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: The super Beetle was displayed at the twenty nineteen Frankfurt 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: Motor Show and sported some exterior modifications as well, including 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: a tailight design from older Beetles specially fitted to conceal 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: the car's electric charging port. The standard cooling vents were 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: also removed as they're no longer needed. The conversion used 44 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: an electric drive, one speed gearbox and battery system based 45 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: on the new VW E up electric car and was 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: completed by the German specialist company E Classics. Thomas Schmall, 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: member of the board of management of Volkswagen Group Components, 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: said in a press release, the electrified Beetle combines the 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: charm of our classic car with the mobility of the future. 50 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Innovative E Components from Volkswagen Group Components are under the bonnet. 51 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: We work with them to electrify historically important vehicles in 52 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: what is an emotional process. We are also providing Beetle 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: owners with a professional conversion solution using production parts of 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: the highest quality for now, though that's only available in 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Germany as the conversion is completed by E Classics near Stupgart. 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: Aston Martin and Jaguar both announced similar programs in and 57 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: the Porsche three fifty six is also a possibility, but 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: VWS program probably has the most mainstream appeal, simply because 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: so many Beatles were built over the car's lifetime. Volkswagen 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: also says that electric microbus conversions are in the works. 61 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Prices vary widely, and few suppliers of electric vehicle conversions 62 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: are openly willing to disclose those prices because it will 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: often vary by vehicle and complexity of the project. As 64 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: reported by The Verge, California based companies can charge as 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: much as a hundred thousand dollars for a conversion, and 66 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: people who join the waiting list now may wait at 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: least a couple of years before their car is completed. 68 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: As with anything that affects automotive culture, there are always dissenters. 69 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: The International Federation of Historic Vehicles or FEVA, weighed in 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: on the trend and said that any gas or diesel 71 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: powered vehicle refitted with electric is no longer consider historic 72 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: because it's been significantly altered. I FIVA prefers vehicles as 73 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: original as possible. Though this stance makes sense on the surface, 74 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: there are some well reasoned counterpoints. For example, if a 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: classic Beetle is reworked as an e V using a 76 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: kit designed and supplied by Volkswagen. Shouldn't the fact that 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: the original automaker had a hand in the project count 78 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: for something? What about cases in which an EV conversion 79 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: is the only possible or practical way to get a 80 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: car back on the road. Isn't that better for car 81 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: culture than letting it rotten the field? We spoke via 82 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: email with Eric Hutchinson, a founding partner of Electric gt, 83 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: a California based provider of e V crate motors. He said, 84 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: certainly there are collectibles that should remain preserved, collectible and untouched, 85 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: but of all the vehicles produced from the nineteen twenties 86 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: to nineteen eighties, there is ample opportunity to honor the 87 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: heritage and keep more on the road well into the 88 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: future with modern drive ability. Hutchinson says many of Electric 89 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: GTS customers own modern EV alongside their classic projects and 90 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: aren't typically worried about the effect on their cars collector value. 91 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: He explained, they're investing more into the actual restoration and 92 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: upgrades to complement the investment of the EV conversion. There's 93 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: a big value on usability and drive ability. Today's episode 94 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: was written by Sris three Wit and produced by Tyler clang. 95 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: Brain Stuff is a production of I Heart Radios, How 96 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: stuff Works. 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