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Speaker 1: It is a Football Friday Week four edition, and maybe

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Speaker 1: the best team in the league is the assignment Welcome

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Speaker 1: Bird Gang. On today's show, Zach Kershman joins me we

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Speaker 1: preview Sunday's game against the undefeated forty nine Ers. That

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Speaker 1: includes heading into enemy territory for a deeper look at

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Speaker 1: the opponent. Also injury concerns at wide receiver and once

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Speaker 1: again at defensive line. Plus what does Zach know about

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Speaker 1: an emotional support alligator? Yeah? You heard me right. It's

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, episode six seventy nine, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two?

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Speaker 1: Who to Baker?

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Speaker 3: What Heart?

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Speaker 2: What rent?

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Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five.

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Speaker 1: He's in again, so more urry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow here's Craig griolud.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Philly guy, can you please explain this? Some Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Phillies fan try to enter a game this week at

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Speaker 1: Citizens Bank Park with an alligator, An emotional support alligator named.

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Speaker 3: Wally that's not normal here. It has to be only

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Speaker 3: in Philadelphia, right, only in Philadelphia. I mean, listen, Thankfully

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Speaker 3: the alligator was left on the outside. I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of people would have been scared and would have

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Speaker 3: ran away. But the Phillies clinched and they're likely going

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Speaker 3: to be playing the Arizona Diamondbacks. So I already put

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Speaker 3: it out on my personal Twitter account at Zach Gershman,

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Speaker 3: even though everybody here should follow at zach asy Cards

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Speaker 3: for the Cardinals information, but I already said that I

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Speaker 3: don't care. I'm sticking with the hometown squad. I love

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals, don't get me wrong, But the Diamondbacks still

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Speaker 3: go Phils.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I can appreciate that. Now, the better question is

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Speaker 1: do I during media availability post practice on Friday, do

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Speaker 1: I ask Kaiser White about this.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, listen, I'm sure he's this. I'm sure he's

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Speaker 3: gone to a couple of there's a name, there's.

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Speaker 1: A there's an emotional support alligator named Wally. This is

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Speaker 1: this is a thing in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Listen. They would have asked where was he during the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl run? And maybe that's why I would have

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Speaker 3: pushed the Philadelphia Eagles to the Super Bowl Championship. I

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Speaker 3: don't know, but I I you know, what you mentioned

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Speaker 3: to me when we were walking down about Wally, and

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know that the alligator's name was.

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Speaker 1: Wally has its own in social media account?

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Speaker 3: Is it really like plural?

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Speaker 1: This is a thing? Yes, accounts plural?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: All right, now I gotta go follow it. Only if

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Speaker 3: it follows me back. That's what I'm gonna look for.

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Speaker 3: But no, I mean, I thought it was. I saw

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Speaker 3: it on social media. I acknowledged it, and I continued

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Speaker 3: on scrolling. It's normal in Philadelphia. I mean, I'm surprised

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Speaker 3: it's only been twenty twenty three. We're about to wrap

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Speaker 1: I gotta wonder what Eagles fans will try to sneak

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Speaker 3: A lot more than just an alligator. I'm sure. Yeah's

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Speaker 3: affirmation and their love for Jonathan Gannon is not the strongest,

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Speaker 3: to say the least, something that JG has acknowledged himself.

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Speaker 3: So what are they going to bring in? I don't know,

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Speaker 3: it's New Year's Eve. Maybe it's Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Good thing is it's an afternoon game and not a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I would that'd be cool though, speaking, I'll

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Speaker 3: be there for that one. Are you're traveling off that one?

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Speaker 3: So that that's going to be exciting.

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Speaker 1: Good to know. Now, speaking of Jonathan Gannon, I thought

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Speaker 1: a tremendous exchange on Friday during Gannon's pre practice presser

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Speaker 1: the season. They're at the forty nine Ers on October first.

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Speaker 1: This Sunday one, twenty five is the kickoff. That means

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Speaker 1: pregame coverage begin at eight thirty am on the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio network, and division games just kind of hit

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Speaker 3: I asked him straight up. I said, JG, do you

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Speaker 3: And next question, literally, burg Gang, that was it.

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Speaker 1: That was the only thing that was said and the

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Speaker 3: At home they can't see. But he gave a little

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Speaker 1: I'm done with you, I'm done, gonna live.

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Speaker 3: Next question, next question?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 3: Last week on Wednesday I got a great question, Zach

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Speaker 3: And I asked him, as a head coach, how much

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Speaker 3: win some, you'll lose some. I guess that's the beauty

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Speaker 1: But it does show you, like postgame Sunday after beating

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Speaker 1: it's this week's opponent in the undefeated forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 3: The one that you're preparing for is the one that's

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys were in the conversation with the forty nine

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Speaker 3: The Cardinals shut down that noise and they came away

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Speaker 1: And I can't say we won't look at it any differently,

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Speaker 1: bit later on here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals will be joined by

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. Team reporter Lindsay Palais had a conversation

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Speaker 1: with her earlier in the week. But first things first,

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Speaker 1: injury front. So let's start with the bad news. What

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Speaker 1: we know. Jonathan Ledbetter, who has not practiced at all

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say that's so wrong for the fingers

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Speaker 3: when it comes down to it, Jonathan Ledbetter, that's that's

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Speaker 1: Strong earned high praise from Gannon on Friday. Playing well versatile,

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Speaker 3: But you cannot replace a Jonathan Ledbetter who's been taking

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Speaker 1: uncertain news is Hollywood Brown never good when a player

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that now leading the offense, Brock Party familiar to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, career high three hundred and ten yards through the

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Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you have one of

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Speaker 4: picked up a stack in week two. I think they're

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Speaker 4: really enjoying that part of that sort of Steve Wilkes wrinkle.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think the goal with the Steve

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Speaker 4: Wolves hire was to bring in someone that believes in

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Speaker 4: a very similar defensive philosophy as the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 4: that you start with the defensive line and build your

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Speaker 4: way back. I think it's very helpful that he is

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Speaker 4: a secondary guy, so We've heard several of the defensive

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Speaker 4: backs just mention how tactical he is and just the

445
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Speaker 4: incredible attention to detail that he brings to the practice

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Speaker 4: field and you see that day to day he makes

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Speaker 4: on the field corrections we saw during training camp, and

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Speaker 4: I think he's just created, you know, continued, I should say,

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Speaker 4: a very good culture. That unit is very much thriving.

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Nick Bosa is back and looking much like Nick Bosa.

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Speaker 1: I read some of his comments after the game against

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Speaker 1: the Giants and how he pretty much feels like he's

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Speaker 1: back in the flow after missing all of training camp

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Speaker 1: and preseason. And then the new addition someone that the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals head coach and defensive coordinator Jonathan Gannon and Nick

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Speaker 1: Raulis respectively have familiarity with, and that is Javon Hargrave

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Speaker 1: and all he has done. The former Eagle is lead

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Speaker 1: all defensive tackles with eighteen quarterback pressures. My guess is

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Speaker 1: that his transition has been pretty seamless.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, I think when you think of somebody

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Speaker 4: that can just jump in and fit in right away,

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Speaker 4: I automatically think of Javon Hargrave and he's just made

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Speaker 4: comments as well of just feeling very in sync and

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Speaker 4: in tune with this defensive front very quickly. You know,

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Speaker 4: he's been incredibly disruptive through these first three weeks, like

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Speaker 4: you mentioned, just all defensive tackles in pressures and obviously

468
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Speaker 4: just gelling very well on the interior of that defensive

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Speaker 4: line with veteran Eric Arms that. I think it's something

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Speaker 4: that the forty nine ers were really looking to fortify

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Speaker 4: in the offseason, and they made that investment and are

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Speaker 4: seeing the early returns on Javon Hargrave.

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Speaker 1: Number three in the league, number three against the run,

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Speaker 1: number two as far as passing yards allowed per play,

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Speaker 1: fifth in points allowed. Yeah, the defense, much like the offense,

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Speaker 1: looking very good. But what are they saying specifically about

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense three games into this season with quarterback

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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs and James Connor leaving the charge Hollywood Brown

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Speaker 1: one wide receiver Michael Wilson familiar to Bay Area fans

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Speaker 1: to Stanford Rondell Moore, and what perhaps the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers are looking at with the Cardinals on offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think most importantly, the forty nine ers have

483
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Speaker 4: never underestimated the Arizona Cardinals, and they are never one

484
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Speaker 4: to underestimate any NFC West opponent. Obviously very impressed with

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Speaker 4: the win against Dallas in Week three and that a

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Speaker 4: lot of them had the luxury of actually staying home

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Speaker 4: as fans this weekend and enjoying that game just from

488
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Speaker 4: the comfort of their own homes and taking that in

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Speaker 4: like the rest of us do on Sundays. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think one big point of Empsis is just going

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Speaker 4: to be that run defense, simply because the amount of

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Speaker 4: yardage that the Cardinals were able to put up against

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys. So there's gonna be a lot of pressure

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Speaker 4: on that defensive front to make sure that you know,

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Speaker 4: Nick Bosa and Cleveland Farrell were set in the edge

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Speaker 4: and those interior guys are being as disruptive as they've

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Speaker 4: been through these first three games. But yeah, it's certainly

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Speaker 4: I think especially with Josh Dobbs, there has been mentioned

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Speaker 4: that he's a lot more mobile than anyone you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe initially accounted for, and I think they've just been

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Speaker 4: very impressed with how he's been playing, particularly against the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: you know, connected on most of his passes, and then

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Speaker 4: also I think accounted for almost quarter of those two

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Speaker 4: hundred plus rushing yards, so certainly not a guy to

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Speaker 4: be underestimated and overlooked in any way. So they know

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Speaker 4: that they're going to have to bring a stout defensive

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Speaker 4: performance in Week four on that topic.

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Speaker 1: As far as the forty nine ers against the run

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Speaker 1: fifty three yards per game, which is outstanding, but how

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Speaker 1: much have they seen as far as a rushing attack

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Speaker 1: because the offense has been putting up points playing with

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Speaker 1: the lead, forcing the opponent to throw the ball as

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Speaker 1: opposed to run it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think that it's going to be

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Speaker 4: probably one of the bigger challenges a week four, especially

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Speaker 4: with the guy that you mentioned, running back James Connor.

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Speaker 4: He's a, you know, one of the sturdier running backs,

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Speaker 4: I would say in the league and also had just

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Speaker 4: a tremendous performance against against the Cowboys on Sunday. So

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, one of the bigger rushing attacks

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Speaker 4: is going to come this week. But I think in

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Speaker 4: terms of the New York Giants, they did a really

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Speaker 4: good job of shutting down a very mobile quarterback. You know,

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones is somebody that they expect to put up

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Speaker 4: a lot of rushing yards and were able to limit him,

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Speaker 4: I believe to just five on two carries. So I

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Speaker 4: think teams are knowing maybe not to try too hard

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Speaker 4: on the run game. But like you said, they've also

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Speaker 4: had to just force teams into throwing the ball in

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Speaker 4: order to beat them. So we'll see how it all

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Speaker 4: pens out on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Always comes down to the line of scrimmage. Lindsey, appreciate

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Speaker 1: the information. I'd say, best of luck, but how about

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Speaker 1: post Sunday, best of luck the rest.

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Speaker 2: Of the way.

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Speaker 4: Oh that sounds good. I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate Lindsey taking the time to join us here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai, probably partner of the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. We bring Zach back into the fold, and

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Speaker 1: you heard it's part of that conversation. The injuries at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver for the forty nine ers Deebo, Samuel Ribs

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Speaker 1: and a knee did not practice Wednesday or Thursday. Brandon Ayuk,

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Speaker 1: who did not play last week because of a shoulder injury,

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Speaker 1: limited this week in practice. Again as we speak here

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Speaker 1: Friday uncertainty not only with Hollywood Brown, but two major

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Speaker 1: weapons for the forty nine ers on offense, which you

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Speaker 1: never like injuries to play a factor in a game.

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Speaker 1: But this week, Hey, you got Christian McCaffer, you've got

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Speaker 1: George Kittle. I can handle a forty nine ers team

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Speaker 1: that doesn't have all of its weapons at their disposal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Listen, you never want any sorts of injuries, and you

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Speaker 3: never wanted to be serious, but if you know you

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Speaker 3: have the ability to take advantage of whatever the opportunity

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Speaker 3: presents themselves. Case in point last week, you never want

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Speaker 3: Trayvon Dix to go down with an ACL injury, but

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Speaker 3: that definitely did help the Cardinals offense with Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 3: depending on if his availability, depending on if he's available

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Speaker 3: or not, that's a big that's a big area you

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Speaker 3: don't have to focus on as much.

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Speaker 4: You don't.

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Speaker 3: You know that that's not going to hurt you. If

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Speaker 3: Debo is not playing his versatility, whether it's in the

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Speaker 3: backfield and running back or out at or out wide

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Speaker 3: as a wide receiver, he's able to hurt you in

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Speaker 3: many different ways. And this is a defense that has

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Speaker 3: been very strong, has been very dominant for the Cardinals,

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Speaker 3: but they've also been facing some injuries as we As

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Speaker 3: we spoke about in the beginning half of Cover two

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Speaker 3: now that you don't have to focus as much on that.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Aiyuk also a really good wide receiver, but Greg,

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Speaker 3: you mentioned it, George Kittle, Christian McCaffrey, the NFC Offensive

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Speaker 3: Player of the Month, and Brock Purdy who has been

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Speaker 3: playing whites out football lately, and I've seen even sometimes

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Speaker 3: people are saying he could be in the conversation for

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Speaker 3: the MVP if he continues this race. That's a seventh

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Speaker 3: round pick that they're talking about. So, knowing that what

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals have, knowing what the forty nine ers have

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Speaker 3: on offense, and as I mentioned earlier JG saying that

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Speaker 3: their scheme is the best in the world, it's a

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Speaker 3: big challenge that they have ahead of them.

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Speaker 1: The third best scoring offense in the league, the third

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Speaker 1: best rushing offense in the league, led by Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 1: who is number one in rushing yards, number two in

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Speaker 1: rushing attempts, averages almost five point nine yards a carry.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he has been very, very good. Although I'll

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Speaker 1: say this act the Cardinals last season faced McCaffrey three times,

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Speaker 1: once in Carolina when he was with the Panthers, and

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Speaker 1: then twice with the forty nine ers, just kind of

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Speaker 1: one of those weird things after the trade and the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers McCaffrey specifically did not play well against

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. In fact, you look at the McCaffrey's game

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Speaker 1: log from last season and McCaffrey against the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers twenty seven rushing yards, thirty nine rushing yards, forty

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Speaker 1: five rushing yards. For whatever reason, Cardinals had McCaffrey's number. Now,

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Speaker 1: they lost both those games to the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: last season, but and again, this is a brand new

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Speaker 1: defensive staff, different pieces along that defense. But if you're

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Speaker 1: looking at what the forty nine ers or what the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals did well last year against McCaffrey, maybe that's something

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Speaker 1: that Gannon nick Ralis can gleanm and try to move

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Speaker 1: towards this year's meeting.

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Speaker 3: And I think that that's definitely a possibility because you

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Speaker 3: have players the roster that are familiar with Christian McCaffrey's

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Speaker 3: game and they've seen him more than twice, which is

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Speaker 3: pretty odd in an NFL season. I also think that

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Speaker 3: it's important with johnath A, Gannon and Nick Rowles having

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Speaker 3: limited him during the NFC Championship game, and when they

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Speaker 3: were back in Philadelphia, Christian McCaffrey was the workhorse for

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Speaker 3: that offense. Once Prockberdy went out with the injury, Christian

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Speaker 3: McCaffrey was also not as dominated. Wasn't as much of

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Speaker 3: a Christian McCaffrey game as you're accustomed to seeing. That

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Speaker 3: normally leads into an NFC Offensive Player of the Month,

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Speaker 3: So they know what they need to do to stop him.

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Speaker 3: But stopping him is exactly that. It's stopping him. But

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Speaker 3: you can't stop the entire offense as a whole, because

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Speaker 3: you have a George Kittle, you have a rock party

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Speaker 3: that now JG's gonna have to see for more than

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Speaker 3: just a handful of snaps like unlike that they saw

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Speaker 3: in Philadelphia because he went out early in the first

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Speaker 3: quarter with that elbow injury. This is gonna be one

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Speaker 3: of those games where the Cardinals going into it, they're saying,

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Speaker 3: we've heard all the noise. We heard all the noise

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Speaker 3: last week with the cowb we hear all the noise

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Speaker 3: this week with the forty nine ers. We know what

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Speaker 3: we're able to do.

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Speaker 1: Brock Purdy is a much different, much better quarterback than

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Speaker 1: what the Cardinals and what Gannon saw last season, he

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Speaker 1: looks nothing like a seventh round draft pick. He looks

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Speaker 1: like a first round draft pick with how well he

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Speaker 1: is distributing the ball and how quickly he is distributing

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Speaker 1: the ball and getting the ball. What we heard this

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Speaker 1: week was not only is Perty getting rid of the

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Speaker 1: ball on time, but he's getting rid of the ball

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Speaker 1: as wide. Receivers are in stride, so they're catching that

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Speaker 1: football on the run yards after catch, which the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers are very good at. Deebo Samuel third best

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Speaker 1: in the league as far as receiving yards after the catch.

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Speaker 1: It's not just a throw and a catch and then turn.

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Speaker 1: It's a throw a catch on the run, which makes

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Speaker 1: it real difficult for defenders, i e. In this case,

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Speaker 1: Marco Wilson, Keith trew Clark Jalen Thompson in the slot.

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Speaker 1: So that's going to be real key for this Cardinals

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Speaker 1: defense if they helped to again surprise in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League.

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Speaker 3: It's not a bang bang play as Jonathan Ganna referred

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Speaker 3: to it, because he's hitting them in stride and they're

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Speaker 3: able to get those yards after catch. And you mentioned

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Speaker 3: Craig Marco and keetro Clark and Jalen Thompson and Kevon Wallace.

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Speaker 3: And this is the defense that while they've been strong

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Speaker 3: and they've been able to wrap up wide receivers at

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Speaker 3: some points, they've also had a lot of mistackles as well.

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Speaker 3: Those tackling woves have really hurt them because when you

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Speaker 3: have a doubtle like the Cowboys did where he was

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Speaker 3: three yards in the backfield and you have two Cardinals

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Speaker 3: around him and you're not able to wrap him up

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Speaker 3: and he goes seven yards down the field, that is

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Speaker 3: what's going to ultimately hurt you when you're able to

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Speaker 3: wrap up. And I hope that an emphasis this week

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Speaker 3: has been on tackling, because the Cardinals did struggle with that.

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Speaker 3: Kay Zier White had fourteen tackles and while that's impressive,

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Speaker 3: the fact that he had fourteen and the next was

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Speaker 3: key trial at ten, but after that the tackling there

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Speaker 3: could have been so many more. Jesse Luketo I like

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Speaker 3: to talk about missed a handful of tackles, mars So

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Speaker 3: Marco Wilson missed a handful of tackles. It's those players

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Speaker 3: where you're able to wrap them up and get them

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Speaker 3: down right away that if you don't execute that, that's

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Speaker 3: where the forty nine ers, that's their bread and butter

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Speaker 3: on the yards after catch.

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Speaker 1: It did not look good at times, but if you

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Speaker 1: look at Pro Football Reference, they recorded five official miss tackles,

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Speaker 1: three though by Kavon Wallace, and the Cardinals cannot afford

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Speaker 1: that to happen this Sunday against the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 1: What they would also like to see on the full

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Speaker 1: Cardinals side is James Connor, Joshua Dobbs, maybe a little

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Speaker 1: Rondell More in that running game to keep that forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers defense honest. Now, let's say strong front, maybe

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Speaker 1: the strongest in the league. But if the Cardinals can

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Speaker 1: get somewhat of a running game, as they've had each

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Speaker 1: of the last couple of weeks, that certainly opens up

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Speaker 1: things and puts less pressure on the shoulders of josh.

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Speaker 3: I think if there's one area that the Cardinals could

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Speaker 3: take advantage that forty nine Ers defense is with Javon

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Speaker 3: Hargrave on that defensive line because he played with Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Gannon in Philadelphia on that defensive side of the ball

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Speaker 3: and JG and him, obviously they had a good relationship

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Speaker 3: back in Philadelphia, Jovon Hargrave was part of the team

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Speaker 3: that took him to the Super Bowl. Knowing what you

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Speaker 3: know and having watched Javon Hargrave for two seasons in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 3: the same two seasons that Jonathan Gannon was there, you

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Speaker 3: know his game, you know his skills, you know his

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Speaker 3: with the areas he needs improvement on. Taking advantage of

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Speaker 3: that is key. You have an all world defensive end,

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Speaker 3: then Nick Bosa, a lot of the detention is going

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Speaker 3: to be on him. If you're able to get up

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Speaker 3: the middle and try to get by a Javon Hargrave

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Speaker 3: who's leading the team in quarterback pressures right now, you're

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Speaker 3: able to do that, the running game is going to

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Speaker 3: be able to start flowing a little bit. It makes

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers more focus on that, and that's

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Speaker 3: when you're able to have a big time played till

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Speaker 3: Michael Wilson where he's able to get through in coverage

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Speaker 3: like he did against the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Hargrave not only leads the forty nine ers in pressures,

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Speaker 1: he leads all defensive tax in quarterback pressures and a

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Speaker 1: scary thought. Bird Gang this week is listening to the

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Speaker 1: comments of Nick Bosa after beating the Giants and getting

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Speaker 1: a little bit more rest that Thursday game, but Bosa

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Speaker 1: telling reporters in San Francisco that he's feeling much better

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Speaker 1: and that rust has kind of been knocked off because

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Speaker 1: remember another week, he did not play, did not participate

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Speaker 1: in training camp or preseason. He was a holdout waiting

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Speaker 1: for that contract, which you got, which was deserved, and

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Speaker 1: now three games in he's starting to feel like himself, which,

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Speaker 1: to your point, Zach, is not good news for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's not good news. But he is

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Speaker 3: going to have to go against a Paris Johnson junior

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Speaker 3: and a DJ Humphries, and I think Paris Johnson hit

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Speaker 3: on something that not many rookie offensive tackles would have

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Speaker 3: hit on. And he said that during both of them

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Speaker 3: are Ohio State guys, and their times just missed each

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Speaker 3: other while they were at school. Nick Bosa just went

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Speaker 3: into the draft. The next seasons, Johnson comes in for

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Speaker 3: his freshman season and the defensive coordinator right there, Coach

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Speaker 3: Johnson would highlight all the different tendencies from the Ohio

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Speaker 3: State's best pass rushers over the years, and obviously Nick

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Speaker 3: Bosa is in that conversation, and Paris Johnson said that

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Speaker 3: a lot of the Ohio State guys have the similar

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Speaker 3: tendencies that he was able to pick up during practices

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Speaker 3: and whatnot during film sessions. And he said that going

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Speaker 3: into this he has familiarity with Nick Bosa from even

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Speaker 3: before just studying film heading into this week because he's

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Speaker 3: watched his game from Afar, and he's also start to

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Speaker 3: pick up against guys who have had similar coaching to

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Speaker 3: Nick Bosa up until this point in the NFL. So

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Speaker 3: that's something I think will be a very interesting matchup.

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Speaker 3: It's the Buck guye battle in the Bay. I like

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Speaker 3: what you did, then, thank you nice, thank you. I

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Speaker 3: added the end the bay. I have put in the

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Speaker 3: three things and my three things on Azcardinals dot com

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Speaker 3: that sure will be out later today. I put a

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Speaker 3: Buckeye battle, but now it just came to me a

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Speaker 3: Buckeye battle in the Bay.

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Speaker 1: Very well done. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paris held his own against Michael Parsons. Now a

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a much bigger test, but Bosa is

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Speaker 1: more experienced than Michaeh Parsons and pay attention to where

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Speaker 1: Bosa lines up, whether that's against Paris or against DJ.

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Speaker 3: I also think that a big part of the reason

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Speaker 3: why Michael Parsons will get a lot more attention than

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Speaker 3: Nick Bosa is because Michael Parsons place for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: That's America's team. They're there when the Dallas Cowboys are

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Speaker 3: doing good. They're going to be in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: every single year according to the national media. So that's

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Speaker 3: why a lot of the conversation surrounds Michaeh Parsons. But

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Speaker 3: Nick Bosa set the market for for rushers and defensive ends.

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Speaker 3: It's well deserved. And now that this task with Nick

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Speaker 3: Bosa that Paris Johnson and DJ Humphreys are going to

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Speaker 3: have to go through, I think it's helpful that they

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Speaker 3: did just go against the Michaeh Parsons because they know

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Speaker 3: what a fast pass rusher is going to do. An

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Speaker 3: agile pass rusher one of the NFL's best. It's not

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Speaker 3: going to be a drop off. It's not going to

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Speaker 3: be as Paris had a Western Kentucky to the number

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Speaker 3: one team in the country. Now it's the top town

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Speaker 3: week after week after week.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers, Eagles and Dolphins all three and oh,

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Speaker 1: can the Cardinals put a dnse in that forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers unblemished record. They did so last week against the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys one of that game twenty eight to sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Can the Cardinals do it again? Do it on the

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Speaker 1: road though this time again? Sunday's game kicks off at

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Speaker 1: one twenty five. Pregame covers begins at eight thirty on

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 3: Good job, Zach, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna go get an emotional support alligator?

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Speaker 3: Now look into listen. I would say it's in the mail,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think that the male delivery guy, I

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Speaker 3: don't think he would might have to pick one up

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Speaker 3: where I'm still here. Can you tell me where I

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Speaker 3: could be the first in Arizona with an emotional support alligator.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna name him Malli instead of Wali. Okay, that

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Speaker 3: be a her. I'm gonna name her Malli.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: I think this has gotten out a hand.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: You on that note, yeah, I did. On that note.

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Speaker 1: We'll put all it on. This edition of Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: As always special thanks to our executive producer Joe Mamahunro,

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Speaker 1: our associate producer Cody Fincher for Zach Kershman, and perhaps

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Speaker 1: an emotional alligator soon to be purchased Molly. I'm Craig Rayllu.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two,