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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven

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Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: If you're your hosts Michael Bumpis and.

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Speaker 3: Paul Moyer, Welcome to Hawks Live.

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Speaker 4: I'm Michael Bumpus with my guy Paul Moyer.

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Speaker 3: Every Thursday.

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Speaker 4: We are right here on sevent ten live from Bellevy

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Speaker 4: Square Center Court.

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Speaker 3: Hi, guys, feeling got a live crowd here.

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Speaker 4: We got about a thousand people here right now that

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at and they are ready to go. Moyer,

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Speaker 4: It's it's been a while. You and I have missed

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Speaker 4: each other for a few weeks. The show just ain't

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Speaker 4: the same without you.

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Speaker 5: Man, I gotta turn my mic on.

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Speaker 6: I'm back, yes, so as you know me, I got

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Speaker 6: my second granddaughter, so I'm had had to miss you

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Speaker 6: guys last week.

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Speaker 5: But good to see everybody.

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Speaker 6: And obviously disappointing loss last week as well as we played,

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Speaker 6: and but it good to be back with you. Bump

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Speaker 6: and Miss I mean you you missed a little bit

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Speaker 6: with us a couple.

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Speaker 5: Of weeks ago because you were coaching, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I've been out of town. Now we're back the squads.

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Speaker 4: But we both took a W. You got a W

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Speaker 4: with a grandchild. I got a W on the football field.

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Speaker 3: Can I tell that story in town?

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Speaker 5: Can I tell that story?

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Speaker 1: Go?

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Speaker 5: Do it?

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Speaker 6: So about two or three weeks ago, which he never misses.

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Speaker 6: This guy is the hardest working guy in this business.

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Speaker 6: He does PAC twelve on Saturday nights, and he's got

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Speaker 6: a we can have a seven.

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Speaker 5: Am game and he's got to catch either.

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Speaker 6: A late flight or sometimes a six am flight if

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Speaker 6: it's a home game.

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Speaker 5: So he's all over the country.

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Speaker 6: So it's a Thursday night that we're gonna do Hawks

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Speaker 6: Live and I get a call from our producer now saying,

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Speaker 6: he goes, hey, do you mind hosting the show? I go, man,

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Speaker 6: what's going on? He goes, you know, Bump's got a

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Speaker 6: Thursday night football game with Roosevelt, and he really feels

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Speaker 6: like he's got to be there for them to win.

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Speaker 6: They win seventy to seven.

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Speaker 3: I go, no, twenty, it was twenty seventy to twenty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was seventy to seven at the time.

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Speaker 6: You guys gave up. I go you needed to be

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Speaker 6: there for them to win? And he goes, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 6: I may have overplayed that hand, but but glad we're together.

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Speaker 4: I just you respect the opponent, just like every opponent

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Speaker 4: has to respect the Seattle Seahawks. Just like the Seahawks

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Speaker 4: have to respect the Bengals. Last week, right seventeen to thirteen,

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Speaker 4: they take an l.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm I think you and I are on the

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Speaker 4: same page when it comes to losses. We're not okay

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Speaker 4: with losses. We don't take a loss and say, oh,

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Speaker 4: it's okay, but we tried hard. You look at the

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Speaker 4: loss and say, man, they were so close. Man if

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Speaker 4: they did this, if this happened, and you replayed in

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Speaker 4: your mind, and you say, there's an avenue to where

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Speaker 4: these guys win.

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Speaker 3: This ball game.

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Speaker 4: When I look at this game, oiler, I think the

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Speaker 4: obvious is right.

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Speaker 3: You get into the.

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Speaker 4: Red zone, you don't score one for five in the

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Speaker 4: red zone, you say goal to goal.

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Speaker 3: They were what are you say that?

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Speaker 5: One for four?

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Speaker 6: It's all so you know, if you're inside the ten

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Speaker 6: yard line, it's or whatever it may be. Sometimes you

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Speaker 6: get a penalty and it's first and goal from the twenty,

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Speaker 6: but it's it's goal to go.

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Speaker 5: So there's no way.

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Speaker 6: To get a first down other than a penalty, and

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Speaker 6: we were one for four in that situation and basically

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Speaker 6: inside the ten yard line. You know, I look at

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Speaker 6: this game and there's many games that we've been on

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Speaker 6: the road where you go.

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Speaker 5: Ah, we could have won that game. This is one

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Speaker 5: we should have won. This game. We were better than Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: We played really well on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 6: particularly defensively. I mean we're starting to play lights out

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Speaker 6: and particularly our front seven is really becoming chaotic for teams.

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Speaker 6: I think our secondary secondary is really locked in and coverage.

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Speaker 6: We've got playmakers all over the board, and outside of

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Speaker 6: their first two drives, we completely shut them down. It

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Speaker 6: was a game that you look back and you go,

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Speaker 6: Gino played well.

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Speaker 5: He's kind of taken.

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Speaker 3: Some heat heat.

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Speaker 6: Which is crazy because he played well other than five plays.

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Speaker 6: You know, you'd always have your your best game, but

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Speaker 6: when you the quarterback in key moments, you know, we

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Speaker 6: had two fourth down plays, you know, inside the red

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Speaker 6: on one play that I know he's kicking himself, and

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Speaker 6: the team was like, we designed this play and JSM

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Speaker 6: was wide open. I think it was the second to

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Speaker 6: we end up getting it first. He ended up scrambling

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Speaker 6: and getting a first down. But it's a play that

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Speaker 6: we were struggling inside the red zone. We needed to

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Speaker 6: make a big play outside the red zone for a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: But I thought it was We actually might have been

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Speaker 6: our best game we played on both sides of the

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Speaker 6: football statistically, how we dominated that game after the first

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Speaker 6: couple of drives, we just couldn't get it in the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that I do was show a daily show bumping

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Speaker 4: Stacey Tennant too.

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Speaker 3: You guys got nothing to do a lunch time, come

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Speaker 3: holler at me.

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Speaker 4: And for a week I've been kind of defending Gino,

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Speaker 4: and I've gotten so much heat from people.

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Speaker 3: And I ask these people, I.

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Speaker 4: Go, all right, well, when you watch the football game right,

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Speaker 4: you're watching it from the TV perspective to where all

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Speaker 4: you see is the quarterback, the lineman, and maybe some

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Speaker 4: backers depending on their drops. And I always tell people,

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Speaker 4: I go, well, if you have the means, it's not free,

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Speaker 4: go and get the NFL game pass and watch the

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Speaker 4: all twenty two because then you're able to see what's

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Speaker 4: going on on the back end? Our receivers open or

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Speaker 4: they covered what's going on. I'm not saying Gino played

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Speaker 4: a perfect game. There were a couple of times where

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Speaker 4: two and guys are locked up, and then you look

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Speaker 3: There were some protection problems.

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Speaker 4: Gino did make some bad decisions and l is and

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Speaker 4: l But what I do like about Geno is that

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Speaker 4: say the right thing nine out of ten times, even

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Speaker 4: if it's not the true thing. He's gonna say the

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Speaker 4: right thing nine out of ten times. And was yoas say,

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Speaker 4: I'm a thumb guy, I'm a pointed to me, and

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Speaker 4: you should as the quarterback because most of the time,

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Speaker 4: as a quarterback, you are the highest paid.

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Speaker 3: Guy on the team.

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Speaker 4: You are the guy I was going to get most

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Speaker 4: of the glory. So when things go bad, you got

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Speaker 4: to take it on the chin. And that's what I appreciate.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate about Geno is that you take it on

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Speaker 4: the chin. But there are some things that this offense

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Speaker 4: needs to do to get right. When you look at

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Speaker 4: this offense, and you look at that game last week,

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Speaker 4: what sticks out to the most.

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Speaker 6: Well, again, I'm gonna just stay on the defensive side.

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Speaker 6: One of the best games we've played in a couple

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Speaker 6: of years. Draymond Jones played unbelievable, Jaron Reid played unbelievable,

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Speaker 6: Mario Edwards incredible. Our front seven has been disruptive and

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Speaker 6: it's something we haven't seen in a few years.

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Speaker 5: And we've gotten a little.

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Speaker 6: Smaller on the front with our front our defensive lineman,

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Speaker 6: but we're so quick now that they have to account

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Speaker 6: for us, and they got to double team us. And again,

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Speaker 6: sometimes Draymond Jones on the nose just off shaded to

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Speaker 6: lock up Witherspoon. Witherspoon was on Chase all day. Matter

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Speaker 6: of fact, it really wasn't that close. I mean Chase

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Speaker 6: Witherspoon can cover. He matched up extremely well. So defensively

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Speaker 6: we got game. Offensively, it really just came down to

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Speaker 6: about four or five plays and Gino played well. Other

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Speaker 6: than two or three decisions. The two interceptions, the first

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Speaker 6: one at JSN. You know, It's just it was one

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Speaker 6: of those I just felt like when he forced it,

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Speaker 6: he was covered, and two wasn't a great throw. We

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Speaker 6: had a kind of a wheel route by our tight

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Speaker 6: to DK, I'm putting this on DK two Now, that

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Speaker 5: It was lazy, and I'm not you know, DK.

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Speaker 6: I know everybody's on him like he's an aggressive guy,

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Speaker 6: but he's also the second highest or third highest paid

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Speaker 6: player on the team. Man, there's no plays off in

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Speaker 6: this game, and you got to protect your quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Now, when I didn't feel like he did.

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Speaker 6: Protect his quarterback, I agree, but I'm here the real

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Speaker 6: he was.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati's pass defense is one of the best ones I've seen,

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Speaker 6: the way that they matched up in the zone defense

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Speaker 6: and then they locked it into man demand. So they

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Speaker 6: immediately took away our short stuff. The safeties knew our

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Speaker 6: some mismatches with our wide receivers downfield, on their safeties,

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Speaker 6: they ran the route for us. So this is the

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Speaker 6: NFL is about adjustments. Shane Waldron in the offense. They

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Speaker 6: knew your routes and you're gonna have to make some

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Speaker 5: It wasn't every time. It's just the.

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Speaker 6: Times when we did break down and coverage where we

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Speaker 6: had a really good route combination, it didn't allow to develop.

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Speaker 6: Other times when we had time, they weren't great route

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Speaker 5: I thought we.

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Speaker 6: Dominated this game. We played Cincinnati ten times. I think

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Speaker 6: we win eight of them. We win every one of

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Speaker 6: them at home. We should have won that game. Really

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Speaker 6: came down to us just not scoring in the red zone. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I would love to have kicked two field goals on

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Speaker 6: fourth down. Hindsight is twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: We know that.

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Speaker 6: At the time, I got why we went for it.

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Speaker 6: You look back now how well our defense was playing.

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Speaker 6: Maybe just get within a field goal because it was

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Speaker 6: getting so hard. But I think we're playing really good football.

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Speaker 6: We out to win our next two games, and we

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Speaker 6: never mind. We had to win our next game and

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Speaker 6: then we got a hunker down the week after. But

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Speaker 6: we got two games at home. We need the twelves

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Speaker 6: to show up and get to what five and two.

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Speaker 3: Now. Late in the game he was used.

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Speaker 6: NFL is a tough game, man, and they're smart guys,

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll get the win this week.

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Speaker 4: here today. Man, it's time to break down the Arizona Cardinals. Now,

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Speaker 5: Well, look, you know me, he's a Bellevue kid.

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Speaker 5: Man, he's one of the best safety.

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Speaker 4: Here's one thing I've known more for about seven years now.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: They're one in five right now.

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Speaker 4: They have the fifteenth ring offense in the league, but

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Speaker 4: Kyler Murray is gone. He's he tours ACL last year.

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Speaker 4: I think they're assuming you got Josh Dobbs over there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean his numbers are good.

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Speaker 6: You know, look, just a game that we should win.

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Speaker 6: But it's a defense that gets after you. They do

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Speaker 3: They still do some things that you got to prepare for. Now.

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Speaker 4: I look at this offense, and we mentioned Josh Dobbs

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Speaker 4: There's always something a team does to try to exploit you.

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Speaker 5: Oh, he had a box.

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Speaker 3: He had him in a box.

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Speaker 6: You got Marquis Brown, Michael Wilson, Michael Wilson's average and

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Speaker 5: I just look, we that is our game now.

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Speaker 6: We've got speed on the outside edges and we've got

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Speaker 5: Much for Arizona, I don't think they're going to score much.

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Speaker 6: No, there's a good chance. We just gotta we gotta

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Speaker 6: Gino's taken a little bit of adversity, we hadn't played

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Speaker 5: They weren't.

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Speaker 6: He's always bounced back, always bounced back.

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Speaker 3: Well, all right, real quick.

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Speaker 4: The Cardinals have lost to the Commanders twenty to sixteen,

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Speaker 3: To the Bengals thirty to forty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Last week they lost to the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 3: Twenty six to nine. A weird type of team.

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Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs turned the football.

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Speaker 3: Over in the fourth.

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Speaker 4: All I'm saying is that, look, you can't win it

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Speaker 4: tall doing what we do. And now we get to

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Speaker 4: talk to a guy who's good at talking at talk man,

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Speaker 4: he is really good at it.

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Speaker 3: Nick Bloor. What's up man?

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Speaker 5: A fan favorite here? Now you can give it out

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Speaker 5: for you guys.

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Speaker 2: Were good good?

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Speaker 4: I love hey man, what are your Thursday nights like?

464
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Speaker 4: I mean, you've been in the league a long time, man,

465
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 4: you know you're you're ancient when it comes to NFL guys.

466
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 4: Thankfully Peters is on the team now to kind of

467
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 4: take that title from you, but a Thursday nights like

468
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Speaker 4: for you when you're not talking to us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank god we got a forty one year old

470
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 2: on the team. Now, well things are a little different.

471
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Speaker 2: I just said to hand the baby off to my wife.

472
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 2: I was holding her for a little bit. So you

473
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Speaker 2: guys caught me probably. Well, I'm thirty four now, so

474
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Speaker 2: I got about thirty minutes and then I'm going to bed.

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Speaker 2: So I'd say that's the thing that changed, you know,

476
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 2: from my rookie year. I always laughed though, thinking back,

477
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 2: because it never really changes, because you know, the season

478
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 2: gets long, you have the long days, you're tired, and

479
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 2: as you get older you feel the aches and everything.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you get in your routine. And for me,

481
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 2: I've got two kids now, so I try to help

482
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Speaker 2: as much as I can when I get home, and

483
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Speaker 2: then you know, by the time about eight o'clock rolls around, uh,

484
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 2: you know you're ready for bed. So it's it's not

485
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Speaker 2: quite the glamorous NFL life you know you see on

486
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Speaker 2: TV or something.

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Speaker 5: So pretty pretty glamorous.

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Speaker 6: First of all, congratulations on your new child there, man,

489
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Speaker 6: that's that's exciting. Yes, my son had a he's thirty two.

490
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 6: He had his child last week and he's a week

491
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Speaker 6: into it. He's he's crying, how much sleepy he's not

492
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Speaker 6: getting and he doesn't have to get up and go

493
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Speaker 6: to practice. But the question I want to ask you, Nick,

494
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Speaker 6: is you were in New York at the time, and

495
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Speaker 6: your your wife goes into labor. And my guess is

496
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Speaker 6: that was a I don't know if it was a

497
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Speaker 6: tough decision, but my conflicting for you is, you know,

498
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Speaker 6: you want to play for the team and your guys

499
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Speaker 6: and also be home for the delivery of your baby.

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Speaker 6: Can you just share how that whole decision went down

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Speaker 6: for you?

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Speaker 2: Well, it was a little weird because so I wake

503
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Speaker 2: up on Monday morning to a knock at the door.

504
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: So I assume I'd slept through like a walk through

505
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: or something, and I kind of wake up and the

506
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: door opens, and uh, you know, I hear a voice

507
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: that says, hey, Nick, your wife's water broke. Uh, and

508
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 2: then the door shuts and I'm thinking of myself, I'm like,

509
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Speaker 2: what the hell is going on? So I look at

510
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Speaker 2: my phone. I've got miss calls and everything, and then,

511
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Speaker 2: you know, I call my wife, Rachel, and she was

512
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Speaker 2: due two weeks. She was due two days after the

513
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 2: Bengals game here, so luckily my mom was in town.

514
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Speaker 2: But we weren't really prepared for, you know, that to

515
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 2: go down like that. You know, the baby comes when

516
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Speaker 2: I wants to. So we were talking and then you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously I go downstairs It's kind of weird because you

518
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: have your game day routine and everything, and you know,

519
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: talk to the coaches and they were, you know, super

520
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 2: supportive and they're like, yeah, we got to find a

521
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Speaker 2: way for you to get home in time, so which

522
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Speaker 2: I appreciated because that's kind of a weird thing is

523
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Speaker 2: there's no hard and fast rule with that stuff. So

524
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: and you know, it's one of those things you feel

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00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 2: weird leaving, but also you know, yeah, you know, I'd

526
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: like to think I have a bearing on the game,

527
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: but I don't want to feel that self important that,

528
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: you know, oh if I'm not there, you know, we're

529
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 2: not going to win or whatever. So they got the flight.

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Speaker 2: I got on the plane. It was kind of surreal

531
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Speaker 2: just leaving, you know, before the game like that, got

532
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Speaker 2: home right to the hospital, and then our baby was born,

533
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Speaker 2: you know, probably right as the game was ending. So

534
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Speaker 2: it was kind of a crazy situation. And of course

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Speaker 2: we're in New York, so it was about as far

536
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Speaker 2: as can be. But I was just very lucky to

537
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Speaker 2: get home in time and to be there for it,

538
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: and you know, lucky, I'm you know, part of a

539
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: franchise and a team that would you know, support a

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Speaker 2: guy doing that.

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Speaker 6: Now, that's awesome and again congratulations. So I'm going to

542
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Speaker 6: ask you a follow up question, is we've had these

543
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 6: conversations the old days when we played, is like, look

544
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Speaker 6: your old school, Yeah you know what, you know, I'll

545
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Speaker 6: the child won't know I wasn't there for the delivery.

546
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 6: I'm playing right, and then the world the game's changed now.

547
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 6: But but a bunch of guys said, I said, well,

548
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Speaker 6: what if it was a super Bowl? And I remember

549
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Speaker 6: Max Strong said, well that's different. I'm gonna throw it

550
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Speaker 6: at you. I go, what if it was the Super Bowl?

551
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 6: Would that have changed you at all? Or you still

552
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Speaker 6: that no matter what, Hey, I'm going to be there

553
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Speaker 6: for the delivery.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to gauge how I'm in. I'm in our

555
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: bedroom with the door clothes. I'm trying to get my

556
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Speaker 2: wife here.

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Speaker 3: But they're always listening, Nick, you know that, they always listening.

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Speaker 2: Now I know I'm gonna I'm probably gonna have to

559
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Speaker 2: miss the birth for that one, I think, but it

560
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: would be it would be tough. But yeah, the super Bowl,

561
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Speaker 2: you get to you know, you can you figure it out.

562
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 2: I suppose, but you tell your.

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Speaker 6: Wife we're introducing we're inducing a week before the Super Bowl.

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00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 5: Honey, we can't take a chance on that one.

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00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Hey, I.

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Speaker 4: Got I got a couple questions for you, maybe three,

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Speaker 4: depending on how your answer these right.

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Speaker 3: One when they flew you back, was it first class?

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Speaker 3: Was it economy or was it a private jet?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of middle of the plane, middle seats,

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Speaker 2: so it was uh. I had to fight for elbows

574
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: on both sides. So uh, you guys, the two guys

575
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: I sat with were a little stingy with the elbow room.

576
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Speaker 2: But I'd like to but you know, I had some

577
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Speaker 2: uh you know, I was ready for the game that night,

578
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Speaker 2: so I was I think I had a little caffeine

579
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Speaker 2: in my system, and I was kind of bumping them

580
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Speaker 2: off of them. But it's a yeah, that's a that's

581
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: a long flight. But I was, you know, I was

582
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Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to get the game on

583
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: my phone the whole way home because it started probably

584
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: halfway through the flight, but couldn't get it. So I

585
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: had about three different people texting me updates of what

586
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: was going on and stuff. So it was kind of

587
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Speaker 2: kind of a surreal experience.

588
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Speaker 4: There you go, a certain dominance. That's what you got

589
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 4: to do in those situations. My next question is are

590
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Speaker 4: you a girl dad or you got two boys.

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Speaker 2: Recently? A girl dad? So May was just born here

592
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 2: and then my son Luke turns three in a week

593
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Speaker 2: here or no, not on Sunday. Actually, so I got

594
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Speaker 2: one of each. So I would like to think that

595
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Speaker 2: we are probably done because I see some of my

596
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: buddies that have three, four or five kids that I

597
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: can't even fathom it.

598
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Speaker 3: Well, I got three.

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Speaker 4: There's no man coverage with three kids. Man, you got

600
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Speaker 4: to play that zone and keep a hand on the swovel.

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Speaker 4: The one thing I can I can tell you, Nick,

602
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Speaker 4: is that I don't know if this is who you

603
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 4: are already, but once you have that girl, man, we

604
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: just get soft.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm so soft now. Well, my boy, I'm rub

606
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Speaker 3: some dirt on it. Get out there and keep playing

607
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: my daught.

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Speaker 1: I go.

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Speaker 4: Look, if anybody messages with you at school today, I

610
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: will come pick you up and we will make this right.

611
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got some good things look forward to.

612
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah that's what I hear. So it's still early, but

613
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: I can kind of feel, you know, I need the

614
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: least amount of softening I can get while I'm still playing.

615
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's you can definitely tell it's different.

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Speaker 6: Nick, what a career. I mean, you're at Central Michigan, Mat.

617
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 6: I was reading up some of your stats there, second

618
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 6: longest start streaking Central Michigan University history at fifty one games.

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Speaker 6: You played linebacker, you know, you're all conference, and then

620
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 6: you end up you've played a bunch of things. You

621
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 6: played fullback, you've played linebacker, your special teams captain man.

622
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 6: Just from when you were done to be thirty four

623
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Speaker 6: years old still playing in the NFL. Any dream of that,

624
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 6: I mean, is this beyond your wildest dream?

625
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I don't think it. I think it would

626
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: be weird if I ever thought that I would get

627
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: to this point. You know, I think, you know, I

628
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: was just concerned about getting a scholarship, and then once

629
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: I was in college, I just wanted to play, and

630
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: then once I was playing, I just wanted a chance

631
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: to play in the NFL, and you know, it's kind

632
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: of gone from there. But one of the young guys

633
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: was actually asking me, like, you know, before a game,

634
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: if it if it ever changes, and it really doesn't.

635
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: You know, you get nervous. You feel the same at

636
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 2: before every game, and it really doesn't change from you know,

637
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: your first one to whatever game this is for me now.

638
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: So you know it's good and bad because sometimes you

639
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: wish it would get you know easier, and you know,

640
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: you learn things that make things a little bit easier.

641
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you know, week

642
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: to week, you know, month to month, season of the season,

643
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: you have to you know, continually like try to improve

644
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: and and you know you're always focusing on like your

645
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: routine of things, and you know, kind of keep your

646
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: head down. And then you know that day where they

647
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: I say it, where they say it's enough, then I'll

648
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: kind of pick my head up and be like, oh,

649
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: that was pretty cool that I did that. But you know,

650
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: as of right now, you know we're in the thick

651
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: of it, so you don't really have time to kind

652
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: of reflect on stuff like that.

653
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Speaker 6: I suppose Well, let me take you back twelve years ago.

654
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 6: This is your pre draft measurables. You come out, you're

655
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 6: six foot one two and forty five pounds. You run

656
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 6: a forty yard dash at four to nine. You run

657
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 6: you got a vertical leap of thirty two and a

658
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Speaker 6: half inches, you got a bench press, you benched twenty

659
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 6: three reps. Where are you today with some of those

660
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 6: measurables and how has sports science helped you along the way?

661
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not even science can really help me

662
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: with some of that stuff. But I would say I

663
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: was pretty happy with this thirty two inch vertical back

664
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: in the day because I tend to play below the rim,

665
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: so that was that was what it was going to be.

666
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: As far as forty and that stuff. I was pretty

667
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: much terrified to run that when I was, you know,

668
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: at the combine, because you know, I was never like

669
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: the fast guy. All the fast guys love running the forty.

670
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: But if you're like, you're not really into that, you

671
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: never ran track and you just you know, tried to

672
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: play fast on the field, you get out there and

673
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm out of my element. And then

674
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: it's funny too, because you see, you see the fast

675
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: guys before they run a forty, they they do like

676
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: the big hops up in the air to get you know,

677
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 2: whatever that does. And I always wanted to do that

678
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: because I'm I was slow as hell, So I was like,

679
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: I know I should do that. It'll make me faster,

680
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: but then you feel stupid because I'm like, I'm gonna

681
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 2: be that guy jumping up in the air and then

682
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: running a four to nine. You know, I don't want

683
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: to do that. So you know, I just put my

684
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: hand down, ran my slow time, and got off the

685
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: field as fast as I could. But I'd like to

686
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: think I kind of trimmed up a little bit over

687
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: the years, So I'd like to say I'm I run

688
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: a little bit faster than that now, if that's possible. Maybe,

689
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: But you know, some of my teammates might disagree, but

690
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: you know, it worked, and I guess fast enough to

691
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 2: keep doing it. So I think just kind of like

692
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: working out over the years, and you know, you can

693
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: only do so much. So and then I see the

694
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: young guys coming in the league. Now, I'm like, you know,

695
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: my days are numbered. Every new crop of rookies, You're like,

696
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: holy hell, where do these kids come from?

697
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, well, mentally you're running a four two. They can't.

698
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 6: You know, experience is speed, and the nice thing when

699
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 6: you're a veteran at that age, they don't tie me anymore.

700
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, if I had to start running forties, it's

701
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: time to retire. So it's that's what I always say.

702
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: Hey, Nick, well, we appreciate you and your time on

703
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: a Thursday. Now you think the wife as well. Where

704
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: I just had a baby. I know the house is hectic.

705
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 4: You are one of our favorite players and personalities out

706
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: here in the Northwest.

707
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: Man, the people really appreciate you.

708
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: Have a good night, man, I appreciate it. Back to

709
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: diaper duty for me.

710
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: There you go. All right.

711
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: That was Nick blore Man, the linebacker, the full back.

712
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 4: Whatever you need him to do, he will do it

713
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: for you. He's a he's a blue collar type of guy.

714
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: Man.

715
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 5: I love players, player man.

716
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: All right, when we come back, we'll go around the NFL.

717
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: That is next right on Hawks Live.

718
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: Hawks Slid presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

719
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, Live on air on

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00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

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00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: Welcome to Hawks Live every Thursday right here on sevent

722
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 4: ten Seattle Sports on Michael Bumpas with Paul Moyer. We

723
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: call him Paul Moyer every now and then.

724
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: You know, he got a.

725
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: Little swagged, so go check out his his pictures back

726
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: when he was playing. I mean, you still got swag now,

727
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: but you'll swag back.

728
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 6: You guys, commented on my gate walking back from the Uh.

729
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: Good, you look good.

730
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 6: You know, you know healthy. Look, last year was rough.

731
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 6: It was a rough back here, man, I was. I

732
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 6: was struggling all through the season.

733
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: I couldn't even invite you to play golf. You said

734
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: you have to take a few months off.

735
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 5: But I'm ready.

736
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: Now you're ready.

737
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: You're gonna give me how many strokes I get four

738
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: or five?

739
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 5: How many I get, how many you need? How many

740
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 5: do you want? Give you whatever you want?

741
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: Give me ten. And we're betting too, so we'll do that.

742
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: All right.

743
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: Hey, it's time to go around the NFL. What is

744
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: going on in the NFL. But let's start at home. Though, Man,

745
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: there's a the game has been has changed a lot,

746
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 4: especially back in our day when I played, When you played,

747
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 4: I used to go across the middle and have to

748
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 4: worry about getting my clock knocked off right, keep your

749
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: head on a swivel. Catch get down.

750
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: Now. You can't hit me.

751
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: If I played in the league today, man, I might

752
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: still be playing Belower's thirty four thirty seven. I might

753
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 4: have stretched it out a couple more years. But you

754
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: can't hit defensive receivers, it's no targeting, launching, got to

755
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: hit the quarterback at a certain area on their body.

756
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: And as of late, we had a guy in our quarterback,

757
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: Gino Smith go through something and it's called a hip

758
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: drop tackle, right, So that's when a guy is being

759
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: tackled and you just drop your weight pretty much and

760
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: you make the tackle.

761
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: One.

762
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 4: This is my opinion, and then you tell me yours, Moyer.

763
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 4: I think that football is a violent sport, and I

764
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: understand people trying to keep players as safe as possible.

765
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: But the object of the game is to get that

766
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 4: man on the ground, and especially when they are a runner.

767
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: At that point they have the football in their hands,

768
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 4: it's like, you just get them down. I'm good with

769
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: the horse caller, not doing the horse caller, you can

770
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 4: control that, But the hip drop is one that I

771
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: feel like is really.

772
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: Tough to try and control.

773
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on the hip drop and what

774
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 4: are your thoughts on just playing defense in this league

775
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: in general?

776
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 5: Wow, it would be hard, uh you know. Yeah.

777
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 6: You used to defend the middle of the field by

778
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 6: saying come across from I'm gona knock your head off.

779
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 6: And the quarterbacks used to protect wide receiver. That's not

780
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 6: the case anymore. That hip drop and it goes back

781
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 6: to the Geno Smith one where he was running out

782
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 6: of bounds and the guy just that he grabs him

783
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 6: by the waist and then he just drops down on him.

784
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 6: I don't love the tackle in the open field. I

785
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 6: really don't. There's some things that aren't natural. I'll tell

786
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 6: you what's not natural. You come across the middle and

787
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 6: it's his own defense. Right the old days, what were

788
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 6: you taught to do if it was his own defense

789
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 6: on a crossing route?

790
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: Me as a receiver, yep, you set in space.

791
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 6: Set it down, Set it down. Why because you're about

792
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 6: to run into a collision. Today they don't care about

793
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 6: that anymore. As matter of fact, they want to clear

794
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 6: you out because they can work some routes behind you, right,

795
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 6: because they don't care about your safety. They say that

796
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 6: the safety is on the defense to protect you.

797
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 5: That's just weird nowadays.

798
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 6: So what's not natural for me, if you're not looking,

799
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 6: is to hit you at the knee. That is not natural.

800
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 6: I don't want to blow your knee out. I'm going

801
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 6: to have to. I gotta hit you high. It protects

802
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 6: me and it protects you. But now it's a penalty.

803
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 6: But the hip drop is one of those if a

804
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 6: guy is running downfields, kind of like the horse collar tackle.

805
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 5: It's a dangerous play.

806
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 6: The only thing I didn't like about that play on

807
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 6: Gino is as a defensive player, he was running out

808
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 6: of bounds. I could have ran him out of bounds,

809
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 6: and so there's kind of a play where I go,

810
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 6: it's just an unnecessary tackle a defense, I'd run him

811
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 6: out of bounds. As a matter of fact, for me

812
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 6: to do this hip drop, it puts me in a

813
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 6: little bit of danger too, right, May I hurt my knee,

814
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 6: I sprain my ankle, I just ride you out of bounds. Now,

815
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 6: if it's third, fourth and one and I'm trying to

816
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 6: beat you to that thing, I gotta get you down.

817
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 6: So now you're telling me, oh no, you can't really

818
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 6: do that. So it's just it's the old days. They

819
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 6: used to have a rules book or it's probably about

820
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 6: a quarter inch stick. Today it's a bible, you know,

821
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 6: maybe multiple bibles. Just they're constantly adding more and more

822
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 6: onto So I don't love it. We can't protect everything.

823
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 6: I think part of the allure of this game is

824
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 6: it's a dangerous game. These guys get paid a lot

825
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 6: of money. They know what they sign up for. You

826
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 6: can't protect them on everything. And you know, there's just

827
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 6: a point where I always think they overreact.

828
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think I think you're right. I agree

829
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: with you one hundred percent.

830
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 3: Right.

831
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: If a guy's going out of balance, it's easier just

832
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: to corral them like a like some herd, like a

833
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: herd of cow. Right, And just okay, you're at a bounce,

834
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 4: when you're in the middle of the field, you gotta

835
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 4: do what you got to do to get the guys

836
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: to the ground because he's going to advance the football.

837
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 4: So no, I'm with you one hundred percent on that.

838
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 4: And this is a receiver talking too. Man, I'm going

839
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: across the middle. Hit me high, don't hit me.

840
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 6: Love, Let me ask you this so here And I

841
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 6: kind of said this jokingly to somebody, I go, look,

842
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 6: if you're slower than me, they go down.

843
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 5: Can you not feel me coming? Serious?

844
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 6: Can you not feel me from I can't say I

845
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 6: feel like I'm the Iowa quarterback right now about to

846
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 6: say something that doesn't sound right.

847
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 5: Can you not sense that I'm about to catch you?

848
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 6: And so if that's the case, can I not put

849
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 6: a little bit of accountability on you too that you're

850
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 6: not in a position for that? I mean, lean more forward,

851
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 6: I die, make a move, do something. Don't put it

852
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 6: always on me and I And I asked that because

853
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 6: I was kind of kidding, but I'm also serious about it.

854
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 6: I go, when does the offense take some accountability for

855
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 6: the dangerous throws? You know, the intersect points? Why does

856
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 6: it have to be on the defender for everything?

857
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 5: And that's the only thing. I think?

858
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: How many points the game? Not many?

859
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 4: That's why because we put up the points, Moyer, no

860
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: one cares that we are the reason why people pack

861
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: the stadiums to watch touchdowns.

862
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, if the Seahawks won three

863
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 6: to nothing every single game, do you all care?

864
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 5: Yes, they they don't.

865
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: Y'all don't want to see a three zero game?

866
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: Eventeen and O you want to see twenty four.

867
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 7: Here?

868
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 5: I get it.

869
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: No, I'm just I'm I agree. I'm just Devil's advocate.

870
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 4: I got I gotta poke. I gotta poke at you

871
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 4: a little bit.

872
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 6: It drives me crazy, a little bit, just just a

873
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 6: little bit. Let me ask you a question, all right,

874
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 6: man last week. Boy, how the league changed quickly two

875
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 6: weeks ago? Who was invincible?

876
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 7: Uh?

877
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 3: The Niners in Philly, Philadelphia?

878
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 6: You know, I think you know, you could throw Kansas City.

879
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 6: I don't think they're invincible, but they're five and one,

880
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 6: you know, Philadelphia for sure.

881
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 5: Who's the best team in the league right now?

882
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 6: And by the way, there's one team that has one

883
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 6: loss and it only came from the Seahawks Troy lines.

884
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 3: Do you think they're the best in the game.

885
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 5: I'm asking you.

886
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: I go with three teams, I go Niners Philly Miami.

887
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 6: So Niners Philly Miami. But I so wanted to do

888
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 6: the Stacey question. Are any of those elite quarterbacks there?

889
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: Nope?

890
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 5: Not a one?

891
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: Well two is a leading in Uh. I know, but

892
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: v for a pick name.

893
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 5: But could he win with an average team?

894
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 4: No?

895
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 6: Okay, it's weird, weird time, it's crazy, right, I'm there

896
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 6: for it, all right, all right?

897
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Speaker 1: If you're your host, Michael Buffis, that's Paul Moyer.

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Speaker 3: Right now, we're.

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Speaker 4: Joined by guy who has taken the region by storm.

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Speaker 4: It's Jake Bobo. One more time for Jay. Now, Jake,

917
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 4: there are a lot of people who are jumping on

918
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 4: your bandwagon. Man, But I'm gonna say, all right, I've

919
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: watched you.

920
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: I worked for the Pac twelve network.

921
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 4: You came over to Dude, I'm like, who's this big

922
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 4: you know what receiver going across the middle making plays.

923
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, dtr who is this guy? He goes Man,

924
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 4: that's my boy, Jake. So once they drafted you, I

925
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: knew that you were a true receiver, right. I saw

926
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 4: the things that you were doing and understanding leverage and

927
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: spacing and all that.

928
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 3: So I was really excited to see what you do.

929
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 4: So thank you for making me look like a genius sometimes, man,

930
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: because I told.

931
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Speaker 3: Everybody about you. I told everybody about you, man.

932
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 4: But but for real, man, it's been a pleasure to

933
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: watch you play. You made it play last week where

934
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 4: it was a big hit, and then I saw you

935
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Speaker 4: get up.

936
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: Your pointing and you're smiling. The New York calls and

937
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 3: they say, hey, you gotta take nineteen off the field.

938
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: What's that whole process? Like?

939
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: Did this tap you on the shoulder and be like,

940
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: hey man, you got to.

941
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Speaker 3: Go to the tent real quick.

942
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

943
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 8: I made the mistake of kind of shaking my head

944
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 8: at the sideline to kind of say, you know, I

945
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 8: brush it off.

946
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Speaker 9: I'll be all right.

947
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 8: But I think the folks upstairs kind of took that

948
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Speaker 8: as you know, it might be a little wobbly down there,

949
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 8: so I guess they buzzed down to the ref. They stopped,

950
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 8: the game, had to come out. It was a little frustrating,

951
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 8: but you know, I appreciate the caution. I wish to

952
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 8: hit one as big, but what it is.

953
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 6: Well, what I was just chatting with you. I'm gonna

954
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Speaker 6: share one of my favorite plays. And look, today the

955
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 6: game has changed so much. I mean it's almost Look

956
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 6: wide receivers are now taught to be like soccer players

957
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 6: and flop.

958
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: You're all, we're not taught to flop more.

959
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 6: Not you, but the new one, the one you're an

960
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 6: old No it is. But you got up, and I

961
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 6: think this is what makes you so endearing. The love

962
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 6: of the game just comes out of you.

963
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Speaker 3: Man.

964
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Speaker 6: You you got up, you were smiling, you didn't care

965
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 6: about the big hit, and I think that's what makes

966
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 6: you and what look you also, you know you're a

967
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 6: lead blocker for the first touchdown. I mean you go down,

968
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Speaker 6: You're on spell teams, You're you make touchdowns and red zones.

969
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 5: I mean you just I think.

970
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 6: It's just the love of the game and just talking

971
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 6: with your But I mean it's not an act, man,

972
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 6: This truly is you.

973
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

974
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's the whole happy to be here.

975
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 9: Thing is kind of cliche.

976
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 8: But you know, I didn't really have any expectations coming

977
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 8: into this, right, so it's what can I do to

978
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 8: to you know, improve this team? How can I impact

979
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 8: this team? How can I make plays to move this

980
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 8: team forward? And you know, at the end of the day,

981
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Speaker 8: it is what it is.

982
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 9: I'm kind of just happy to be out there doing that.

983
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 5: You're more You're more than that, though.

984
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I hear Gino talk about you and look

985
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 6: they're they're pulling for you.

986
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: But so I'm going to take you back to this part. Look,

987
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 5: you've been he was.

988
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 6: At Duke for four years, his dad was, and mom

989
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 6: and dad both went to Dartmouth, So he's got some

990
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 6: pretty smart jeans. Your dad was a wide receiver at Dartmouth.

991
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 6: Is he finally giving up the mantle to you that

992
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 6: you are better wide receiver?

993
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: Yet? Yet?

994
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: Not yet?

995
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 5: Pretty good?

996
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 6: But one thing that gets you from being a drafted

997
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 6: player is here forty times by the way, happened to me,

998
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 6: am my senior here too.

999
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 5: Are you really a four?

1000
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 3: Are you really?

1001
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 5: Can you compat that?

1002
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: Well?

1003
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 9: So here's the thing, right, It's like.

1004
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 8: It first comes out, all right, who's the guy runs

1005
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 8: four nine nine playing for UCLA?

1006
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 9: Absurd?

1007
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 8: And you kind of are you know, it's embarrassing, you know,

1008
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 8: it is what it is. But at this point, I mean,

1009
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 8: do you kind of just have to embrace it? Right,

1010
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 8: you know what I mean Like this, I kind of

1011
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 8: enjoy being the probably the slowest wide receiver at least

1012
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 8: forty time wise in in NFL history, right, Like that's

1013
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 8: got to be up there in the ranks.

1014
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 9: So for me, is you know, embrace that. That's who

1015
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 9: I am.

1016
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: You know.

1017
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 8: I think it kind of complements some of my other

1018
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 8: skill sets which you you touched on earlier.

1019
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 9: But at this point it is what it is.

1020
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 5: Man.

1021
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, quite fault sure than that obviously, And there's there's

1022
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 6: something about being smart and understanding defenses and separation getting Yeah.

1023
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 4: Man, I'm a receiver, so I know a route runner,

1024
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 4: and I know a guy who understands what he's doing

1025
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 4: when I see it, And I think that's that's different.

1026
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 4: There are guys who are running who can run here

1027
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: or there faster than anybody, But can you do it

1028
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 4: with eleven other bodies out there and a coverage?

1029
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: Is there a route that you like the most?

1030
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: Because I know I was a slot guy, so whenever

1031
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 4: I had my option route at five, I can stretch

1032
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: to eight depending on what the defense is doing, and

1033
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: I could I can manipulate what's going on. That was

1034
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: my favorite route. Is there a route that you enjoy

1035
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: the most.

1036
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 8: I'm a big option route guy, just being able to

1037
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 8: you know, like you said, diagnose.

1038
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 9: Coverage, use leverage and stuff like that.

1039
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 8: But also any double moves right right, So I don't

1040
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 8: want to just run a straight line down the field.

1041
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 8: I want to try to manipulate, you know, get him

1042
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 8: go one way so I can go the other, make

1043
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 8: it look like I ran right by him, when in reality,

1044
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 8: probably just put a move on him.

1045
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 9: Get down the field.

1046
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, but any double move option routes anything where I'm

1047
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 8: not running a straight.

1048
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 6: Line, which you know in today's game. Yeah, you can't

1049
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 6: just run a straight line. I mean, you got you

1050
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 6: gotta change up speech. Let me let me take you

1051
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 6: back to high school. You grew up in Massachusetts. You're

1052
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 6: recruited by wake Forest. And by the way, here's what

1053
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 6: was really funny. I pulled up his Wikipedia page or

1054
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 6: Wikipedia however you want to say it, and he goes,

1055
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 6: I have a Wikipedia page, and so I show him.

1056
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 5: I go, yes, you do, which is pretty cool.

1057
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 6: So you're recruited by wake Forest, Boston College Army. You

1058
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 6: end up going to do talk about that and was army?

1059
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 6: Was that a serious thing you were doing obviously be

1060
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 6: pretty cool school to go to academic.

1061
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was honored to even be kind of considered

1062
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 8: for a spot at that at that institution. Obviously Ratigan

1063
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 8: is a guy that that went to Army and he's

1064
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 8: a stand up guy, so you know, that was cool

1065
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 8: to be in that position. But going back to the

1066
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 8: whole recruiting thing, you know, I was I was an

1067
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 8: underrecruited guy, kind of mirrored my pre draft process or

1068
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 8: kind of a guy that kind of you know, flew

1069
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 8: under the radar, and you know, I embraced that, happy

1070
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 8: to land where I landed in Durham. Obviously made my

1071
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 8: way out to LA by the end of by the

1072
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 8: end of it, but it was I mean, it was

1073
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 8: cool process.

1074
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 5: Why why why that?

1075
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 6: By the way, I mean, you have four good years

1076
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 6: in Duke, I mean that programs turned around. I get

1077
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 6: you know, you got a standing ovation here.

1078
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 5: You're a hero as a twelve.

1079
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 6: Other than being a basketball player, you probably not as

1080
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 6: loved at Duke. But how do how do you your

1081
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 6: fourth year? Obviously you graduate and why U c l.

1082
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 9: A Yeah, you know, it's it's weird.

1083
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 8: I still probably consider you know, Duke is is my

1084
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 8: school where I went to school obviously, graduated, was there

1085
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 8: for four years. I love Durham, North Carolina, but wanted,

1086
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 8: you know, I had one year left, got the COVID year,

1087
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 8: had one year left of eligibility, and and figured I'd

1088
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 8: take a shot.

1089
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 9: You know, my it's weird.

1090
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 8: My my dream growing up was always is I want

1091
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 8: to play college ball.

1092
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 9: It wasn't necessarily I want to go play in the league.

1093
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 8: And so I kind of took that year and saw

1094
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 8: that year as an opportunity to kind of live out

1095
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 8: a kid's dream and and go take a shot at

1096
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 8: you know, went in a conference championship, competing for a

1097
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 8: national championship, which we'd have had the chance to do

1098
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 8: if we didn't squander it. But you know, it was

1099
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 8: just taking a shot. Figure I'd go out to La Chip.

1100
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 8: Kelly's a Northeast guy, so connected with him, and it

1101
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 8: was it was an awesome, awesome experience.

1102
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 4: Now, I was an undrafted guy myself, and when you

1103
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 4: get into the locker room, I don't know if if

1104
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: this was the case, I know exactly whe you're gonna say,

1105
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: you got these bs lockers in the middle roly lockers

1106
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 4: were like, look, you're seeing guys getting peeled back every

1107
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 4: single day. So the realization of the situation that you're in,

1108
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 4: like it's it's really as soon as you get in there.

1109
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 4: And I made a connection with our backup quarterback, immediately

1110
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 4: I go, this is the guy that's going to make

1111
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 4: or help me make this team. I would assume it

1112
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: was Drew Locke for you or was it someone I said?

1113
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: And then once he made that connection, did you guys

1114
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 4: have the conversations like, all right, man, it's me and

1115
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 4: you or was this an unspoken type thing to where

1116
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just do my.

1117
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: Thing, you know.

1118
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 8: I don't know if I necessarily had a guy like

1119
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 8: that to where it was okay, you know, you know,

1120
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 8: we're gonna do this together. But I think kind of

1121
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 8: the there's an easy connection to make between QBS and

1122
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 8: white House, and for me, that guy was Drew in

1123
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 8: the preseason, obviously starting out in OTAs and in camp,

1124
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 8: just just being on the same page with him because

1125
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 8: that's who I was on the field with, Like I

1126
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 8: wouldn't you know, I hadn't made enough plays yet to

1127
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 8: be on the field of seven, and so being out

1128
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 8: there with Drew and he definitely took me under his wing,

1129
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 8: talking about scheme stuff, you know, the culture of that organization,

1130
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 8: and then obviously on the field, I felt like we

1131
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 8: made a pretty pretty quick connection. So that was cool

1132
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 8: and I'm, you know, very thankful that he took the

1133
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 8: time to do that.

1134
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 6: You know, what's been fun is just to watch how

1135
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 6: excited your teammates are for you when you scored that touchdown.

1136
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 5: And I mean that's I mean.

1137
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 6: Do you feel I don't even know how I want

1138
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 6: to say, do you are you in awe of that?

1139
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 6: I mean, look, you got dk metcal If, you got

1140
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 6: Tyler Lockett, and these guys genuinely like you as a

1141
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 6: human being, And about that, I mean.

1142
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's stuff like Locke run out there and grabbing

1143
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 8: the you know, I'm a I made the wrong decision

1144
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 8: to lose the football after the after the touchdown, he

1145
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 8: ran out there, no helmet on, grab the ball, make

1146
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 8: sure I got it.

1147
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 9: And it's just stuff stuff like that.

1148
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 8: Not only that shows you kind of the composition of

1149
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 8: that receiver room, but also that that organization And so

1150
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 8: it's cool to be embraced by those guys, But what

1151
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 8: you don't see is how they are with with the

1152
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 8: other rookies, they're the same way. And so if you know,

1153
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 8: if guys like you know Ty John Lindsay, you know

1154
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 8: Lance Lance boy kid in the corner, if they make

1155
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 8: a big play, you.

1156
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 9: Know the sideline of roughs.

1157
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 8: And it's so cool to see that because you know,

1158
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 8: I don't know if that happens at other places. I'm

1159
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 8: assuming it's not the same. So I'm very thankful to

1160
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 8: landed at the spot.

1161
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 9: For sure.

1162
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: You give me the feel of a guy who's not

1163
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 4: afraid to have conversations on the football field while you're playing.

1164
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 4: There's some guys who are really uptight and I don't

1165
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: say nothing. There's some guys who are talking trash, some

1166
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 4: guys who having fun.

1167
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: You give me the field.

1168
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: That you'll have some conversation and last some things off

1169
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 4: like what is what is a a a seventh place stretch?

1170
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: Like for Jake Bobbo out there, when it comes to

1171
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 4: interacting with the.

1172
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: Other team, with the other team, let's go both teams.

1173
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 8: Okay, your team, yeah, with the other team, it's it's

1174
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 8: very I'm a I'm reactionary. So if you know, if

1175
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 8: there's a little trash talking going on, okay, I'll dig

1176
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 8: into that.

1177
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: A little bit.

1178
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 9: But if it's not, you know, I'll kind of stand

1179
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 9: my own lane.

1180
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 8: But when I'm out there, dude, it's it's for anybody.

1181
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 9: It's survival.

1182
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 8: And yeah, right now the game is flying. And the

1183
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 8: good part is is I've seen you know, it's become

1184
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 8: easier since some of the camp stuff, since early in

1185
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 8: the preseason. But yeah, man, I'm just out there, yeah, looking.

1186
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 9: To make plays.

1187
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 8: If I do, maybe I'll let you know that I did,

1188
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 8: so maybe I won't, but yeah, yeah, I'm definitely a

1189
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 8: vocal guy.

1190
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: You say anything to the guy that gave you that

1191
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: big hit or did you just kind of shake it off?

1192
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 9: You can't say anything after that one?

1193
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: After yeah, yeah, you're.

1194
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 8: Lying face down on the ground. It's hard to get

1195
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 8: up and talk trash after that.

1196
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 5: What did well?

1197
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 6: I know we only got a bad man. What other

1198
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 6: sports did you play? Other sports?

1199
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 5: In high school?

1200
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: Basketball?

1201
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 5: Basketball?

1202
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 9: Miss those days?

1203
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 5: You got got a little bit of hyke there. Last

1204
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 5: question for you that I got asked, flea flicker? Was

1205
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 5: that designed for you? Yeah?

1206
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 3: I was open.

1207
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 8: But it's the it's that's what a lot of people

1208
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 8: don't understand, Like you guys get it because you played

1209
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 8: is there's you know, a quarterback's got he's got his read.

1210
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 9: It's one to two to three, and on that I

1211
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 9: think I'm the third.

1212
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 8: So it's the back to I think Disley was running

1213
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 8: a corner and I was over the top. He just

1214
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 8: didn't have time to get there. And so you know,

1215
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 8: social media is going out saying bubble is open wide

1216
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 8: in gc M. But you know, folks just don't understand,

1217
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 8: like he's not looking there.

1218
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 9: If he had time, he got there.

1219
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was little, I was.

1220
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 4: Too, But I'm glad you pointed that out because people just.

1221
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 3: You know, throw the ball. I go.

1222
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 4: There's a progression that's going through. If you can't get there,

1223
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 4: you don't get there. Special teams, But what what's that

1224
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: like for you?

1225
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 3: Running down?

1226
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 4: I remember the first time they asked me to make

1227
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 4: a tackle special teams, Like, i'ven't done this since.

1228
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: I was a freshman in high school.

1229
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 9: High school.

1230
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was that like for you?

1231
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been tackling anybody since yeah, my senior year

1232
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 8: of high school. So that's you know, that's and I

1233
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 8: didn't play a ton of special teams in college, especially

1234
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 8: later in my career. But like you know, it's like

1235
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 8: some of the run game stuff. I you know, that's

1236
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 8: something I enjoy, right, So you know I'll dig into

1237
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 8: running down and covering kicks, for blocking on kickoff return,

1238
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 8: making plays on the punt team is you know, like

1239
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 8: I touched on earlier. I'm just I'm really just trying

1240
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 8: to find ways to contribute to to what this team

1241
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 8: is doing, because you know, I get this feeling. People

1242
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 8: in that building get this feeling. I don't know if

1243
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 8: the fan base quite gets this yet, but this it

1244
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 8: feels like a special squad a you know, I'm just

1245
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 8: looking to move us forward.

1246
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate you taking time out of your day.

1247
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 9: I appreciate you.

1248
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 3: You don't live close, so thanks for making the drive.

1249
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 9: Man appreciate it.

1250
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: Jake Bobo.

1251
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 7: Man.

1252
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 4: When we come back bu one side the film room,

1253
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 4: we'll look at Trey Brown's interception, Jake Bubbo's twenty yard reception,

1254
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 4: and then the final play of the game that is

1255
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 4: next right here on Hawk's Line.

1256
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue

1257
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on

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00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

1259
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Hawks Live. I'm Michael Bumbas with Paul Moyer.

1260
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 4: We are here every Thursday at seven pm at Bellby

1261
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,040
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1262
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 4: Bellvy Square Dining District.

1263
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 3: We just spoke to Jake Bubble.

1264
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 4: He's taking pictures kissing babies and shaking hands just like

1265
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 4: the man.

1266
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 5: How good he get it?

1267
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 3: Man, great dude.

1268
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 7: Man.

1269
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 6: You know it's one of those where, man, you just

1270
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 6: love guys who just appreciate the opportunity and the moment today.

1271
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 6: And it's you know, it gets tougher as you get

1272
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 6: older and become more of a superstar. If every guy

1273
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 6: had that attitude, my goodness, man, they would be off

1274
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 6: the charts.

1275
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 4: Hey, that's too easy. We keep it complicated over all. Right, man,

1276
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: let's get inside the film room. The first play, We're

1277
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 4: gonna look at it. Man Trey Brown. He goes, look,

1278
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 4: you missed me for a week.

1279
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 3: I am back.

1280
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 4: You get last time you saw me had the interception.

1281
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 4: This time I got another interception. This time this past

1282
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 4: was intendant for Jamar Chase.

1283
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 7: Jamar Chase slide to the near side and Brown is

1284
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 7: on him. Burrow from the shotgun on second down and

1285
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 7: five takes the snap three step drop. He's gonna lay

1286
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 7: it up over the top. He's got check, get down, accepting, accepting.

1287
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 3: Got Trey Brown.

1288
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 7: The ball is thrown deep by Burrow down the near sidelines.

1289
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 7: It was intended for Chase, and Trey Brown turned at

1290
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 7: the last second, gun his hands up, makes the interception.

1291
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 5: What look they're they're doing this a little bit.

1292
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 6: I really like what we're doing too, which we're dropping

1293
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 6: down digs our free safe looked more like a cover

1294
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 6: two look at times. And then they dropped digs down

1295
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 6: and they put Jamal Moore not completely in the middle

1296
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 6: of the field. And in this case they're maybe trying

1297
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 6: to help over the top with tray. It's just, you know,

1298
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 6: everybody singled up. Burrow goes, all right, wo one's on

1299
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 6: the right side. I got one on the right side.

1300
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go to Trey Brown because he doesn't run

1301
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 6: a four to three.

1302
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 5: He runs a four to four.

1303
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 6: But I would say this, I go Trey Brown might

1304
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 6: be technically our best corner. He yeah, I mean with

1305
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 6: his footwork, his hand position. I'm not saying his length,

1306
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 6: his speed, you know, quickness, you know. But we loved

1307
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 6: him when we got him in the draft. He was

1308
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,959
Speaker 6: a legit corner, which we haven't had in a while

1309
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 6: at Oklahoma, and before he got injured with his knee injury,

1310
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 6: we thought he was, you know, potentially gonna be our

1311
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 6: best corner, you know. Wooe pops up and then we

1312
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 6: obviously we get Witherspoon, but he's just in man demand.

1313
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 6: He's all by himself out to the left of the

1314
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 6: defense's left, perfect position, gets his hand on the chest,

1315
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 6: he is right in the guy's hip pocket. He turns

1316
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 6: perfect he becomes a wide receiver on it. He makes

1317
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 6: an interception and all this guy's starting to do is

1318
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 6: make place.

1319
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I look at that situation. I think Joe Burrow

1320
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 4: looks over to his right.

1321
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 3: He goes, oh, I got Jamar Chase against who's this

1322
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: guy getting? Oh, twenty two? Yeah, twenty two.

1323
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take my chances against twenty two.

1324
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 3: And he just plays it perfectly.

1325
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 4: Squeezes him to the sideline, handle the hip, make sure

1326
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 4: he's in good position low case the football goes up

1327
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: and gets it. The composure in that moment was impressive

1328
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 4: to me.

1329
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 3: And who is he covering Jamal Chase?

1330
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 5: And how was he covering him?

1331
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: Man oh man? And it was easy like White own right.

1332
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 6: It was easy for him, and Burrow does look left briefly.

1333
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 6: I didn't know if they what he saw. Maybe he thought, okay,

1334
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 6: this is purely one on one in this situation. I

1335
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 6: got my best wide receiver and maybe their third best corner.

1336
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 4: I think he's trying to move a safety like I

1337
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 4: know where I'm going and I'm look here.

1338
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 6: And that's where Jim Adams actually stayed more than a

1339
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 6: half position on that. Just great coverage and again he's

1340
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 6: making places. We got three four legit pin Yeah.

1341
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'm with you there all right.

1342
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 4: This next play, Gino Smith finds Jake Bobo for a

1343
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 4: twenty yard game and takes a big hit, setting first

1344
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 4: and goal.

1345
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 7: Here we go second down and ten. Smith empties the backfield.

1346
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 7: Send Smith and Jig Bow.

1347
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: Wide to the far side.

1348
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 7: Walker wide to the near side, empty backfield for Gino

1349
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 7: takes five step drop, looks, throws, reaching up, making a

1350
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 7: catches Bobo.

1351
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 3: He is slammed to the ground.

1352
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 7: Three flags come in as the defensive back hit Bobo.

1353
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 7: Hill hit him right in the face mask. Bobo held

1354
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 7: on to the ball. How I have no idea?

1355
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 4: I love this right here and the reason why I

1356
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 4: love this one is because the understanding that I have

1357
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 4: to take this side release because if I go outside,

1358
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bump up against my guy, and I'm gonna

1359
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 4: make this play easier for the safety. That inside release

1360
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 4: makes that safety have to stay vertical in the middle

1361
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 4: field just a little bit longer. And then you snap

1362
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 4: it off around ten to twelve yards. You toss it

1363
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 4: up and you know you're gonna get hit him this play.

1364
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 4: Moyer as a receiver, you know you're going to get hit,

1365
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 4: but he concentrates, catches the football possession as everything comes

1366
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 4: down with it.

1367
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jake's still here. We should bring him over here

1368
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 6: and tell him that coach this thing up.

1369
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 5: But you're right.

1370
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 6: The one thing he does not only just get an

1371
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 6: inside release, he doesn't get rerouted or jammed right, so

1372
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 6: he still got his speed moving forward. He now knows

1373
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 6: he's passed the underneath coverage and I've got a safety,

1374
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 6: so I can't keep.

1375
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 5: Running to him. I gotta snap this off now.

1376
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 6: Gino doesn't throw maybe the best throw here for him

1377
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 6: because it kind of throws it behind him. I would

1378
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 6: like him to let him more a little more to

1379
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 6: the sideline than give him a chance on that. It's

1380
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 6: a great catch, it's a great route. It just shows

1381
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 6: how smart he is in his in.

1382
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 5: His pattern read and not reading, but development against coverage.

1383
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: Right.

1384
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 5: But the part I love the best.

1385
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 6: He gets smacked and he gets up and he's smiling,

1386
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 6: like I love this game.

1387
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 5: Man. Wide receivers don't do that anymore. They want to.

1388
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 6: Fight, right, I mean I got hit in the head. Now,

1389
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 6: I want to fight because he didn't. There's a fifteen

1390
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 6: yard penel. There's three flags thrown, like you know, somebody

1391
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 6: just committed murder here. I look after this play, I

1392
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 6: was like, why aren't we using him in the red zone?

1393
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 5: Because I thought they pulled him out in the rest

1394
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 5: of the game. He actually went.

1395
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 4: Back in all on that last but.

1396
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 6: We had Parkinson, which look I like, you know Parkinson

1397
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 6: a lot. He's a tall receiver, but his recognition of

1398
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,479
Speaker 6: what the defense is to get that quick.

1399
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna I don't want to hurt him too much.

1400
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 6: It's that Larry Bird first step, right, I know where

1401
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 6: to go. It's it's a quick first step. I'm open,

1402
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 6: I have separation hitting me now, and I tell you what,

1403
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 6: he's dangerous in the red zone. Coach Walter, you gotta

1404
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 6: use them more down here in the red zone.

1405
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 3: All right, this last one, we'll be quit.

1406
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 4: We got Geno smith Man he last play of the

1407
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 4: game pass falls incomplete, fourteen goal game over.

1408
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 7: You got all three of the receivers coming near side,

1409
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 7: DK Lockett and JSM Parkinson is winged on the left

1410
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 7: side walker in the backfield. Gino gonna take a shot,

1411
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 7: gets hit as he flows and the ball just flutters

1412
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 7: to the ground. And once again the pass rush hammer's

1413
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 7: Gino smith and once again the Seahawks offense cannot get

1414
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 7: a shot to the end zone because the protection just

1415
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 7: can't hold up against this Bengal defense.

1416
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 5: Talk to me, uh, you know, it's funny.

1417
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 6: We had Anthony Bradford on a few weeks ago and

1418
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 6: I had told him, I said, one of the cool

1419
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 6: things about you, I go, is you really understand stunts.

1420
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 6: And so they run basically a tech stunt and where

1421
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 6: they bring the they bring the tackle and he tries

1422
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 6: to get wide on our right guard at the time,

1423
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 6: which was Bradford. Bradford sees the stunt, the defensive end

1424
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 6: slows down and tries to stunt back underneath. They've got

1425
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 6: to pass this off and Bradford is kind of looking

1426
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 6: for curehand, where are you? And because he didn't come

1427
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 6: off his guy quick enough, Bradford had to stay with

1428
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 6: his guy.

1429
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 5: So look, Gino had no shot. I'm not sure he

1430
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 5: looked to his left.

1431
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 6: I think if we pick up that stunt, he comes

1432
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 6: back right and he finds locket open. But that's a

1433
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 6: long developing play. Protection broke down. I wouldn't even call

1434
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 6: it an incomplete pass. I mean it was just probably

1435
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 6: even a fumble at that point.

1436
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it didn't stand a chance there. Man, got a

1437
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 4: young offensive line trying to figure things out.

1438
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: What do you do?

1439
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 4: You provide some pressure? You thought them stunts at them? Man, Hey,

1440
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 4: make sure you get out to the WV collection. Dining districts,

1441
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 4: so many great restaurants to choose from. Today we had

1442
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 4: our pre show meal at one of our favorite places, Sweet.

1443
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: Restaurant in Lambs. Man.

1444
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 4: I had what I have had the sliders, We had

1445
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 4: some tacos, We had the Collis flower, we had the

1446
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 4: orange chicken.

1447
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you have some seafood too, didn't I?

1448
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 5: When did? I? Oh? Yeah I had some? Ah he

1449
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 5: turned it was.

1450
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 6: It was awesome and then I got my uh bringing

1451
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 6: some black and chicken poster or something back. And I

1452
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 6: will tell you this, Honestly, their customer service there is

1453
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 6: off the chart. I mean they we walked in, they

1454
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 6: knew our names. We hadn't been there in a year.

1455
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: No, they knew Moyer's name. I shut up, Blake, I

1456
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 3: shouted up Blake. The knew they knew Moyers.

1457
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 5: They said Paul and team. But you know what I mean.

1458
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 6: No, but really they knew each of our names, what

1459
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 6: we did, and again they're just great customer service.

1460
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 5: At the suite over by the height, go there and

1461
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 5: check them out.

1462
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 3: Yep, go check them out? All right?

1463
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 4: When we returned, we will talk that talk. That's when

1464
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 4: we pick a few topics. I tell Moyer he's wrong,

1465
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 4: he agrees with me like he always does, and we.

1466
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: Make things right. That is next right here on Hawks Live.

1467
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: It's time to talk that talk with Michael Buffis and

1468
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,959
Speaker 1: Paul Moyer on Hawks Live.

1469
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hawks Live. The real ones are still here.

1470
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 3: Those are people's right here at w Square Center Court.

1471
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 4: I know Jake Bobo bought like five hundred to six

1472
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 4: hundred on his own, but you know what.

1473
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 3: We got our family right here. And you know what

1474
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 3: family does.

1475
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 4: From time to time, We get in arguments, we getting debates.

1476
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 4: We talk that talk, and that's what we're gonna do

1477
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 4: right now.

1478
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 5: So Molly, as long as we are we love each

1479
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 5: other at the end.

1480
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 3: At the end, I saw that matters, Yes, and that's

1481
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: what we do, all right. So it's time to talk

1482
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 3: that talk. This is what happens.

1483
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask a question or make a statement. More

1484
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 4: is gonna tell me if that statement is correct or false.

1485
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 4: If I agree, I will agree. If not, I will

1486
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 4: tell him why he's wrong. And what is do what

1487
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 4: we do. We do this a long time now, this

1488
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 4: is four or five years now.

1489
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, and look, tonight may be the time you get

1490
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 6: a win. There's always a first.

1491
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm from Cali, La.

1492
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 4: We respect the OG, so you know what, Hey respect

1493
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 4: the O G.

1494
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 5: O g Oh.

1495
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let him know when he's wrong. Nough, all right,

1496
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 3: you're ready to do it, all right.

1497
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 4: First one, when the season is over, the Seahawks defense

1498
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 4: will be the strength of this team over the offense.

1499
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 6: Which is interesting because I think we all thought our

1500
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 6: offense was definitely gonna be the strength, right Well, I

1501
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 6: from a trend standpoint where we're going. Yeah, I think

1502
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 6: the man, that's gonna be close. I think they're both

1503
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 6: gonna be finished in the top fifteen, which you know

1504
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 6: where we started. You know, defensively, that's that's gonna be

1505
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 6: a jump. But I love what our front Stevens doing.

1506
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 6: Teams can't run on us, right and I love now

1507
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 6: with Trey Brown and Woolen and Witherspoon and we got

1508
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 6: Digs and Jamal Adams and.

1509
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 5: We got love.

1510
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 7: Man.

1511
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 5: I like what we're doing.

1512
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 6: I think the defense, I think they're gonna edge them,

1513
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 6: and particularly we got to get Lucas back and we

1514
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 6: got to have a complete offensive line.

1515
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

1516
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 4: I think that the team goes further if the defense

1517
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 4: is better than the offense.

1518
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 3: I really think that.

1519
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 4: But I also think that with the weapons on offense,

1520
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 4: the potential is greater. Right now, I think we're kind

1521
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 4: of seeing what this defense could be. I think that

1522
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 4: DK is proven. I think Lockett is proven. I think

1523
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 4: Gino has shown that he can do it. But that

1524
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 4: offensive line is a little bit suspect. I say all

1525
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 4: that it's a contradict everything I just said, and agree

1526
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 4: with you and say that, Yeah, I think the defense

1527
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 4: is going to be mo better.

1528
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Speaker 6: All right, that kind of ties into my question right now.

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01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 6: All right, in the past, when we get towards a

1530
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 6: trade deadline, you're always looking at what could make us better,

1531
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 6: what could put us over the top.

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Speaker 5: So let's just say we're mirroring that trade deadline.

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01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 6: What position would you want to trade for that could

1534
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 6: really put us over the top, And that means we

1535
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 6: got to take a starter out right of that equation.

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01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 3: Right, here's the thing. I look at the starting secondary.

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01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 3: I ain't getting rid of nobody.

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01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 4: I look at the starting Linebackers, I ain't get rid

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01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 4: of nobody. I look at the starting D line. I'm

1540
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 4: not getting rid of anybody. Quarterback I'm good, receivers, I'm good,

1541
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 4: running backs, I'm good. I'm looking at that old line,

1542
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 4: and I'm saying, all right, if there's anywhere you could

1543
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 4: take a starter out and put someone else in, I

1544
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 4: would go with the offensive line. Not to I'm not

1545
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 4: saying that this line is not capable. I think maybe

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01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 4: when they're healthy with Abe Lucas and Charles Cross and

1547
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 4: Damien Lewis and Devin Brown, Phil Haynes or Anthony Bradford,

1548
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 4: you got Olu. There are guys who are capable, but

1549
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 4: I also think that there might be somebody out there

1550
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 4: who's a bit more ready to lead the charge on

1551
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 4: that offensive line. So I look at the old line

1552
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 4: and I'm saying, if there's a move I would make

1553
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 4: to bring a starter out, it'd be the big boys.

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01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 3: What's say you?

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01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 6: And the way I'm looking at this is also it's

1557
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 6: a cautious draft. Capital We're not going to trade a

1558
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,479
Speaker 6: player for a player. It means we're giving up a second, third,

1559
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 6: fourth round pick next year, and I would not trade.

1560
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 6: I don't know who would be out there that would

1561
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,799
Speaker 6: really improve us, because I feel like our edge rushers

1562
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 6: are there. I mean, Mafe is just getting better. A

1563
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 6: China has been really consistent, Bobby Wagner and Brooks Inside,

1564
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 6: I mean we got Devin Bush, who was a healthy

1565
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 6: scratch last year, who can play. You got Jamal Adams healthy.

1566
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 6: I mean it's it's it's pretty strong. And the same

1567
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 6: thing running back. Canine Canine is running so well, and

1568
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 6: I know we want to get sharbon A in there,

1569
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 6: but you know Canine can run hard too. Receivers Jsm's

1570
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 6: really starting to come into us play. We just had

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01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 6: Jake Bobo, who's a threat, particularly in that red zone.

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01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 5: Actually not even a resident. I'm playing the guy more.

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 6: We're gonna have d escorts back in two weeks, you know,

1574
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 6: after the sixth game, and he was playing well, but

1575
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 6: offensive line.

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 5: I just feel like.

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01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 6: We're banged up right now, and if Lucas is out

1578
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 6: more than another week or two, that would be a

1579
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 6: position I would say all right for us to be

1580
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 6: truly at our best.

1581
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 5: Again.

1582
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 6: That last play, fourth down, we broke down on the

1583
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 6: right side with Jake Kerrhan and Anthony Braffer.

1584
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 5: I think Anthony Braffer is going to be a stud.

1585
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 5: I would I would.

1586
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 6: Maybe make a move for tackle, even though I got

1587
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 6: two young tackles, but with the potential that guy could

1588
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 6: slide inside at some point. But this is the first

1589
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 6: time in years where I go, I'm not really looking

1590
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 6: at the trade deadline, you know, I don't know if

1591
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 6: there's that one guy is just going to put us

1592
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 6: over the.

1593
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 3: Top, which tackle would you slide inside?

1594
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't do that.

1595
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 6: I would if I was to trade for somebody where

1596
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 6: I said, hey, look, Lucas is still banged up, and

1597
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 6: it's it's extending longer than we thought. Then I need

1598
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 6: to shore that up right and then I can move.

1599
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 6: I think Kerrhan is better inside anyone. But I would

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 6: say for that tackle if he's older, Hey, look, you're

1601
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 6: going to compete in the guard position in the future

1602
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 6: when we get Lucas back, because I got my true tack.

1603
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,879
Speaker 6: But I wouldn't have a problem moving Lucas inside the guard.

1604
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 5: Someday, you know. So that's my only thing.

1605
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 6: And that's such a it's not even a wish.

1606
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:20,799
Speaker 5: It's just if that played out.

1607
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 3: You know.

1608
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 4: What's wild is that we might see a forty one

1609
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 4: year old on the football field for the Seahawks this

1610
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 4: week because of what's going on on that offensive line,

1611
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 4: and that is mister Jason Peters. Now, typically we see

1612
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 4: him at the tackle spot. Maybe you move him inside

1613
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 4: to protect them from going up against the most athletic football.

1614
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 3: Players on the field.

1615
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 4: In my opinion of wars of those big and rush

1616
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 4: of those d ns of what I don't expect a

1617
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 4: lot from him, but just stability, right, I mean, if.

1618
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 5: We need him.

1619
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 6: I look, I like Bradford Tolae, you know, I like Lewis.

1620
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 6: If Phil Haynes is healthy, he I've made the case.

1621
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 6: I thought last year, maybe last year the year before,

1622
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 6: he was playing as well as any offensive linemen are.

1623
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 5: Better on our team. I don't have a problem with Peters.

1624
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 6: I don't know if i'd love him outside because I

1625
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 6: think he's lost some of that quickness, but he's a

1626
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 6: big mountain of a man inside. That would that would

1627
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 6: be good. I just look, we got to get Lucas healthy.

1628
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 6: Right That's that's number. All five of our starting offensive

1629
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 6: linemen are questionable right now.

1630
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 5: I think they're all play, but they're all questionable.

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01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, Lucas bag go Kug's, but go Kug's.

1632
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 5: Look, they need a rebound this week.

1634
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 3: What is Arizona stayed done at all this year?

1635
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 5: Did you?

1636
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 4: I ain't even talking about Arizona State, but you're talking

1637
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 4: about my coups that.

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01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 6: I might be on the sideline this week and get

1639
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 6: a little humble pie, okay, and I may have to

1640
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 6: wear my maroon and gold.

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 3: I hope you do. I will all right, what you got?

1642
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 5: Am I doing this with me? I'll throw it at you.

1643
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: All right.

1644
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 6: Look, there's been we're talking about Kleeb Williams. Who's agent?

1645
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 6: I guess agent. They're saying that part of his contract

1646
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,799
Speaker 6: that they want ownership is part of that contract.

1647
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 3: Would you have to see quarterback?

1648
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, usc quarterback, He'll be the number one pick for sure.

1649
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 6: That ain't happening. You cannot play in the NFL and

1650
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 6: be an owner. As a matter of fact, Tom Brady, they

1651
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 6: always say, oh, he's coming back. Well he's part owner

1652
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 6: a minority order with the Las Vegas Raiders.

1653
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 5: That ain't happen.

1654
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 6: He's going to have to give up that ownership to play.

1655
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 6: But you know, these guys are making a lot of

1656
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 6: money now. So I guess my question is in our

1657
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 6: lifetime when we see a current player have ownership stake

1658
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 6: in the NFL or a former NFL player as a

1659
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 6: majority owner.

1660
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 4: If you're a majority owner, you are a billionaire upon billionaire, right,

1661
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 4: And I think that players are getting there because they're

1662
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 4: able to diversify their portfolio, right, you're not as a

1663
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 4: football player. You own this, you own that, you invest

1664
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 4: in this company that grows. But I think, man, there's

1665
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 4: just a conflict of interest for a current player now

1666
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 4: for a former player, I think there needs to be

1667
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 4: a span of time, maybe twenty years is after they're

1668
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 4: done playing to where your influence on the game isn't

1669
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 4: as great. I say, someone like Tom Brady were to

1670
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 4: be a majority owner right now, Man, we'd be yelling

1671
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 4: collusion all day if anything suspect were to happen. The

1672
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 4: owners now have been owners for such a long time.

1673
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 4: They collude in other ways. It's not not gonna twist it.

1674
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 4: That's what they do. But the integrity of the game

1675
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 4: is not in jeopardy. So I don't think. I don't

1676
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 4: think we're gonna see it.

1677
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, Michael Jordan owned obviously a basketball team, and he's

1678
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 6: the richest, you know, former athlete of all time, and

1679
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 6: I think, you know, maybe Tiger Woods, you know, it's

1680
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 6: got to be up there.

1681
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 5: But I don't see it happening.

1682
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 6: It's such a mega you know, these these franchise are

1683
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 6: four or five billion dollars.

1684
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 5: I just don't think they can make that kind of money.

1685
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 6: Even though money makes money, they're not making that kind

1686
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 6: of money. Not in my lifetime, maybe in my grand

1687
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 6: children's lifetime.

1688
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 3: I second beat. Yeah, all right, when we return, we'll

1689
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 3: put a bowl all this thing.

1690
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 4: Show recap and final thoughts are next right here on

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Speaker 4: Hawk's Lot.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Hawks Live. I'm Michael Bonas with Paul Mary.

1696
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Speaker 4: This is the last segment of the show. My producer

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01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 4: gives me a card to read at the end of

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01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 4: the show, and I dropped it somewhere, but I found it,

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Speaker 4: did you?

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Speaker 3: And my producer.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to buy him a drink after this

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01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 4: because he's gonna be angry at me. But I gotta

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01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 4: I gotta get him mad at least once a year.

1704
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 3: Once a year, I get him mad. I heard it?

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Speaker 5: Did you find it?

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Speaker 3: It's my one time? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Got okay?

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01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 3: I got it right here, all right, man. So uh

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Speaker 3: it's good radio. It's great radio.

1710
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 4: It's time to put a bone this sing and look

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01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 4: forward to our opponents this week in the Arizona Cardinals.

1712
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 4: We had opponent preview earlier during the show, and I

1713
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 4: think we both obviously, I think we always come into

1714
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 4: the week respecting the opponent.

1715
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1716
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 4: I guess you have a backup quarterback. Okay, You're running

1717
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 4: back is banged a. I think you're getting uh back.

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01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 4: It sounds like you're getting booda back.

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01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 7: Uh.

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01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 4: But this defense has been really good as far as

1721
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 4: getting after the quarterback, and not even from the d

1722
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 4: Linean's more from the second level, which are linebackers. So

1723
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 4: we talked about the stunts that we saw against the Bengals.

1724
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 4: When it comes to the defensive lineman, they're gonna run

1725
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 4: some stunts with those linebackers as well. So if I'm

1726
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 4: watching the film, this is a copycat.

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01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 3: Leave right, what are you gonna do?

1728
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 4: You're gonna throw something at these uh, these offensive lineman

1729
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 4: to see what they can handle.

1730
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, when when you watch the Cincinnati game

1732
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 6: and Arizona game, they ran a ton of stunts up

1733
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 6: the middle. Uh, they found something in Cincinnati's protection.

1734
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 5: Look, it's a visional game.

1735
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 7: Man.

1736
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 6: They know us, We know them. It's we don't like them.

1737
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 6: They don't like us. We're a better football team. But

1738
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 6: you know, we gotta go play well. I just think

1739
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 6: kind of get back to the basics again. You know,

1740
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 6: let's let's run the football. We're gonna have to make

1741
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 6: some adjustments. So and particularly in our routes. They're gonna

1742
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 6: give us some these highbred things like you said, you know,

1743
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 6: They're gonna have seven guys standing around the line of

1744
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 6: scrimmage and you got to figure out who's gonna blitz.

1745
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,520
Speaker 6: And sometimes they blitz, sometimes they don't. They're really aggressive.

1746
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 6: You watch them on film, you go wow, I like

1747
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 6: the way they play. They're just not there yet. They

1748
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 6: don't have that quarterback, though he's very mobile. They have

1749
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 6: some speed outside, they got a veteran tight end.

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01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 5: I just we should be four and two after Sunday, man.

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01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 4: I feel you and I look at the challenges that

1752
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 4: they present, and I think that in certain areas it's

1753
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 4: good for them when it comes to the matchup, but

1754
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 4: everywhere else, the only thing I look at them and

1755
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 4: I go, okay, you can give us problems. There is

1756
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 4: blitzings and stunts and all that stuff, But everywhere else,

1757
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 4: I think I'm with you. You mentioned they've been outscored

1758
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 4: the Arizona Carna's forty sixty seven.

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01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 3: In the fourth quarter.

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01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 4: You got Josh Dobbs who's turned the football over frequently

1761
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 4: as of late in the fourth quarter. Ye has six

1762
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 4: fumbles on the year, which is wild. It's like top

1763
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 4: three in the NFL right now. So they're gonna present

1764
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 4: some opportunities, and I like what you said, getting back

1765
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 4: to the basics right b where you're supposed to be

1766
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 4: gap integrity, offensively, getting to the right protection, slide the

1767
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 4: protection when you need to use your running back and

1768
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 4: on the outside. You just gotta win. Because the Bengals

1769
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 4: when it came down to winning time, they manned us up,

1770
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 4: but we were not able to get loose.

1771
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 6: Look, we got superstar wide receivers time to play like

1772
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 6: a superstar every play, and they're capable of it, and

1773
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 6: I mean every play, and that means the plays that

1774
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 6: you're not getting the ball once you're not the target.

1775
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 4: Four.

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01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 6: Look, Gino, man, he don't care who's out there. I'm

1777
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 6: gonna throw it to the guy who's open. So get

1778
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 6: open and then let's not be forcing the ball. We're

1779
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 6: best when Gino says, I'm gonna get take what the

1780
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 6: defense gives us. But we're not playing since Cincinnati Turly,

1781
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 6: it's one of the best coverage teams I've seen in

1782
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 6: the secondary. This one will be different. Now they're gonna

1783
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 6: give us heat. So we got to get open quick.

1784
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 6: Against Cincinnati.

1785
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 5: We needed to protect to get open late, and so

1786
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 5: it'll be a very different game. From a game plan standpoint.

1787
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 4: U, let's just get in the red zone it and

1788
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:18,919
Speaker 4: put us some points. Touchdowns.

1789
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 5: Oh, let's let's score from forty yards out or that.

1790
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 5: You know in.

1791
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 6: Basketball, sometimes you just gotta get easy buckets, right, I

1792
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 6: mean the old fast break. Let's get some easy buckets.

1793
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 6: If we got to get the rebound and set our

1794
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 6: offense every single play, man, you were't working really hard.

1795
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 6: And look, some teams say we we're gonna shell you

1796
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 6: to death and force that down.

1797
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 5: Make you work hard. That works for a little bit.

1798
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 6: You know, when you start hitting things in the middle

1799
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 6: of the field and they start tightening, tightening up on

1800
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 6: anything you've got to you gotta go over the top.

1801
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 3: I like that.

1802
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 4: I like that because as soon as you said it,

1803
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,799
Speaker 4: you know what I thought of. I thought of, Okay,

1804
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 4: grabbing a rebound, setting it up, walking in the ball

1805
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 4: up to half court and running your off that's a

1806
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,759
Speaker 4: fifteen play drive right now, fast breaking it boom, grabbing

1807
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 4: a board dished out, hitting the outlet and going that's

1808
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,520
Speaker 4: a six seven play drive, which means you're getting explosive

1809
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 4: plays over twenty five and thirty yards. And we haven't

1810
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 4: had a lot of those by this time of the year.

1811
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 4: Last year, kinn Walker had so far his longest runs.

1812
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 4: This year, i've been thirty six and thirty one. I

1813
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 4: believe by this time last year he had already had

1814
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 4: a sixty yard run and on the outside of DK

1815
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 4: already had a forty fifty yard reception. He hasn't had

1816
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 4: that yet. So I love the way you described that

1817
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 4: because it made me envision exactly what this offense needs

1818
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 4: to do.

1819
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 6: It's very hard to go twelve fourteen plays because there's

1820
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 6: a turn there's a penalty, right, you don't convert on

1821
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 6: a third down, all that stuff. And look, every once

1822
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 6: in a while, I think for Gino, I don't want

1823
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 6: him to force the ball.

1824
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 5: Last week, I thought, you.

1825
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,799
Speaker 6: Know, when he was conservative, maybe he could have taken

1826
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,759
Speaker 6: that shot. And at times when he took that shot,

1827
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, not that time, and he's bound back

1828
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 6: every time he hasn't played well for us.

1829
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 5: I expect the same thing Sunday.

1830
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 4: Okay, Devin with his spoon, he's put together three four

1831
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 4: games now.

1832
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 3: Yes, one more, be nice.

1833
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 6: He's capable, and again I'm excited to see what we do.

1834
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 6: We have more turnovers to we didn't get it. We

1835
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 6: only had one turnover last.

1836
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 3: Week, all right.

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01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 4: A special thanks to Nick but Lauren, Jake Bobbo for

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01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,520
Speaker 4: joining the show, our board operators, Back Strobel, on site engineers,

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01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 4: the lovely Brennon Rodgers Production of Cincius, Chauncey Sanders, and

1840
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 4: our executive producers Nasa Troby. The Seahawks pregame show was

1841
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 4: live this Sunday, started at ten am. Until next time.

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, Michael Bamas with Paul Moyer. We'll be

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Speaker 4: back next week right here on Hawk's Live