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Speaker 2: What is a baym It's me Jason McIntire, straight four

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Speaker 2: year for Monday, December the eighth. Though it was a

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Speaker 2: phenomenal football weekend, I actually didn't play any basketball, didn't

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Speaker 2: of football. The football Saturday did not go great on

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Speaker 2: the bets, I mean, Ohios Date didn't get there, Texas

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Speaker 2: Tech did what was the oh Alabama got their doors

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Speaker 2: blown off, embarrassed. We'll obviously touch on that. And then

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Speaker 2: Sunday NFL was chaotic. Some big wins did lose survivor

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Speaker 2: I don't really want to talk about it. We had Tampa.

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Speaker 2: Tampa pooped their pants two for seven on fourth down.

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Speaker 2: I mean, give me break. And the big drawback is

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Speaker 2: Browns of course also lose that. There's no way I

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Speaker 2: get the pot? Can I mention the pot now? I

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Speaker 2: hope my buddy doesn't mind. The pot was one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty thousand dollars and we're now under one hundred people.

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Speaker 2: I loved our chances, I loved our teams. We were

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Speaker 2: in great shape. But onward we go. I actually think

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Speaker 2: the biggest story in the NFL is Trump. Well, what

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Speaker 2: is the biggest story in the NFL? Is it the

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the biggest story is in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: But I won't know what the biggest story in sports is,

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Speaker 2: and that is Notre Dame getting absolutely hosed by the

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Speaker 2: kangaroo court that was the NCAA selection committee for the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just an absolute joke of a decision by

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Speaker 2: They had Notre Dame ahead of Miami. Throughout this entire process,

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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing changes this weekend from Miami. The acc result

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, poof Notre Dame finds

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Speaker 2: himself on the outside looking in and Miami leapfrogs them.

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Speaker 2: Like what, It's just absolutely hysterical. Unless you're a Notre

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Speaker 2: the best stats, and there's many, this one was so

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Speaker 2: eye popping. So in the last three years, there's been

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Speaker 2: sixteen conference championship game losers and they were all ranked

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Speaker 2: in the top twenty five going into the game. Right

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Speaker 2: sixteen of them fifteen dropped after the loss. The only

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Speaker 2: penalized for losing a conference championship game except Alabama, and

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Speaker 2: Alabama was humiliated by Georgia. This is another insane stat.

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Speaker 2: So the big Alabama what was that they say the

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Speaker 2: so then people started to look closer at that game

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Speaker 2: and like, okay, so Alabama Georgia played one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes of football two games sixty plus sixty one

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Speaker 2: to twenty math. The first thirty minutes, Alabama outscored Georgia

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Speaker 2: remember is the second half they got outplayed, and what

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Speaker 2: doesn't the season opener count? The head to head? Well,

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Speaker 2: first week of the season. It doesn't matter. Nobody cares.

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Speaker 2: In the NBA, nobody cares in the NFL. What happened

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Speaker 2: to the first It does not matter. It is irrelevant,

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Speaker 2: none of it made sense. But I'm gonna go a

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Speaker 2: all of them in lockstep because of a Week one victory.

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Speaker 2: It's almost as if the losses to SMU as a

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Speaker 2: the head to head matters, Okay, well what else matters?

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Speaker 2: all the analytics had Notre Dame as the better team,

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Speaker 2: you know, I have nothing to gain here. Obviously, I

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Speaker 2: interesting is some people were like, oh, you're a big

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Speaker 2: And Notre Dame came out and said, you know, the

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Speaker 2: And they went as far to say, we're not playing

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Speaker 2: And it's weird because you know, I've been saying for

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Speaker 2: to Oregon. They're twenty one point dogs to the Ducks.

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Speaker 2: That was Listen, it was funny. There were nine conference

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Speaker 2: Live and where else to start in the NFL besides

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Frauds sorry, Kansas City Chiefs jagging at

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans. It's over. The dynasty's done. Texans twenty Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: First time. Now, it did happen in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: It happened in the ANFC title game against Brady, but this

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Speaker 2: it's understandable because Petree, who's just such a player back

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Speaker 2: the poofy helmet, so you don't think he's like serious. No,

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Speaker 2: to take it seriously. It's safe. I would probably wear

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Speaker 2: one if I was in the NFL, but he lit

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Speaker 2: of the Mahomes era. This was the I was point

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Speaker 2: total for the Chiefs with Mahomes under center at home,

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Speaker 2: they only scored ten points. Now, I thought I heard this,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes was three of ten for two yards. Then

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Speaker 2: that can't be right. Two yards with one pick and

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Speaker 2: one sack. Listen, will Anderson was a terror off the edge,

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Speaker 2: but Mahomes you could tell he was hearing the footsteps.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen of thirty three, another sub fifty percent completion debate.

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Speaker 2: Game three interceptions down two were not on him at all.

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Speaker 2: Kelsey's gotta catch it. The other Peatree made a ridiculous play,

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Speaker 2: but essentially the offense just can do nothing. They can't

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Speaker 2: with fifty nine yards. The immortal Xavier Worthy, remember all

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Speaker 2: we kept here, Wait till we get Worthy back, rob Ge.

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Speaker 2: It's all about Worthy in Receid rice. Now, those were

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Speaker 2: They're just not good. It's okay to say that they're

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Speaker 2: gotta be honest with you guys. Ten ten, eleven minutes,

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Speaker 2: can handle that. Well, I don't know. They turn it

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Speaker 2: Who cares? This season ends? You forget, I forget. We

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Speaker 2: the losses, Bills, playoff team, Broncos, playoff team Cowboys that

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Speaker 4: I'm already right on that one. The problem is that

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Speaker 4: saying they're gonna miss the put most season entirely that

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Speaker 4: they're not good and at this point they're living off

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Speaker 4: fifty touchdowns his first year's starter. This is a guy

427
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Speaker 4: who was, you know, breaking every single record known to

428
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Speaker 4: man through his verse four or five years as a starter,

429
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Speaker 4: and not the guy that we've seen in the last

430
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Speaker 4: two or three years who was a very good quarterback.

431
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 4: He's more mature as a quarterback. He's less of a

432
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 4: gun slinger, but he just has not been what I

433
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Speaker 4: would call an elite quarterback.

434
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Speaker 3: And you're seeing that play.

435
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 4: Out before our eyes last night against a very good

436
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 4: Texas defense. Mahomes first game of his NFL career, zero

437
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 4: passing touchdowns, multiple picks, less than fifty percent completions. Now

438
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 4: that happens to a lot of people. I mean, like

439
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 4: pick your favorite quarterback. They've had a game like that

440
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 4: once or twice, you know, probably a season. But when

441
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes has it, the talk is, well Kelsey dropped

442
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 4: the passage. It had been interset, like the offensive lines

443
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 4: banged up. But it's like, well, Patrick Mahomes also had

444
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 4: it what should have been a touchdown to Hollywood Brown

445
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 4: on a deep crossing route and he floats it in

446
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 4: the air so he has to come back and catch

447
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 4: it and then gets tacked down at the fifteen yard line.

448
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 4: He said a for a field goal, which they miss.

449
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 4: Like that's what's going on now with Patrick Mahomes.

450
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: And this team.

451
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 4: In the second half, when you thought that the Chiefs

452
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 4: actually played better than they did in the first time,

453
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Speaker 4: you mentioned they were shut out two picks by Mahomes

454
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 4: twenty eight percent completion percentage and he was under pressure

455
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 4: about forty percent of the time because they were winning

456
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Speaker 4: at the bat.

457
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Speaker 3: Like, he hasn't been good. This team hasn't been good.

458
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 4: And anybody who is surprised that they're in this position

459
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 4: that they're right now has not been paying attention and

460
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 4: they've just been hoping and wishing that we're gonna get

461
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 4: the old Chiefs and that's not happening.

462
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: That's not happening. So I wonder if you know, obviously

463
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: there's plenty of time in the offseason, like does Andy

464
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: Reid go out like this? Does Kelsey Kelsey just go

465
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 2: get married and become a family guy transitioned to TV podcaster.

466
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Frankly, I don't give a shit at

467
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 2: this point, honestly. I mean, they had a great run.

468
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 2: They were in a bunch of Super Bowls. It's over.

469
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll get back there. I'll just say that

470
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Speaker 2: this for all this goadedness that we talk about with Mahomes,

471
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Speaker 2: Rob g how many times Tom Brady missed the playoffs

472
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Speaker 2: when he was with the Patriots.

473
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Speaker 3: And that would be zero, Bob.

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we'll leave it at that. You see what

475
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Speaker 2: I did there. Let me quickly touch on the shadure standards.

476
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I watched it. I thought Shader

477
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: made three, three or four amazing throws. The touch pass

478
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: to Djoku in the end end zone was incredible. He

479
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: had a nice deep ball to Judy like Chador was dealing.

480
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: He had a really good game. They lost thirty one

481
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: to twenty nine. She drew a three hundred and sixty

482
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: four yards passing three tuddies. He did take two sacks.

483
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: I thought he had the second longest time to throw

484
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: out any quarterback this season. Clean pocket was doing well.

485
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: Did throw a bad pick. But here's the weird part.

486
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: I believe that there is a segment of the football

487
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: viewing audience that wants Kevin Stefanski fired over house. Shador

488
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: is being handled because yes, Stefanski called for a They

489
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: needed a two point conversion in the final minutes, down

490
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: by two, they pulled Shador off the field and went

491
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Speaker 2: for a gadget play. It was supposed to be a

492
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: Jutkins like direct snap and he would sweep and then

493
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: I forget who the run of the receiver was. He

494
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: was supposed to pitch it to the receiver. It felt

495
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: like an I don't want to say, a bastardized version

496
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: of a Philly Special without the quarterback. But it felt

497
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: like there was some sort of Philly Special esque miss

498
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: to it, and Judkins, in his excitement forgets to pitch

499
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: the ball. Then after the guy runs it's kind of

500
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: a comedy verse. After the guy runs by him, he's like, oh, snap,

501
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: and then he turns it and like throws it and

502
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: it was a disaster. But bottom line is like they

503
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: lost the game because they went for two and didn't

504
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: get it. But afterward everything is like, why did you

505
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: poll Shaduer off the field and try that nonsense? And

506
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, all right, I didn't love

507
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: the play call, but it was just an aggressive tone.

508
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: And then I saw some medium members were like, listen,

509
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 2: this could be the last straw for Stefanski. I'm like,

510
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: what a two point conversion gone wrong? What are we

511
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: doing here? And I just wonder when you watch Stefanski

512
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: do these he's I feel like he's doing zooms. He's

513
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: not meeting with the media. Can you tell Rob if

514
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: that's what's going on.

515
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: I think it's split. Yeah.

516
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: When you're watching him on the zoom, he looks so

517
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: exasperated by the Shaduur questions that he's almost like, this

518
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: is why I didn't want this guy. I didn't want

519
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: to have to deal with this. That's the read I

520
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: get from his look on his face, Like if Dylan

521
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 2: Gabriel got that last touchdown and you needed to when

522
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: you pull him off, nobody's saying, why would you pull

523
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel off the field because nobody cares about him.

524
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: And again, I think it would be asenhine for the

525
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: Browns to fire Kevin Stefanski. I think it would be

526
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: truly asinine. But I just I don't know what the

527
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: owners thinking. The ownership there is very wonky. Currently with

528
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: one game left, Chargers Eagles won't impact this. The current

529
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: draft order is Giants, Raiders, Titans, Browns. Mendoza. I think

530
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: he looks like a first round pick. It was third

531
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 2: and ballgame against the Buckeyes, other worldly defense and he

532
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: makes a perfect gotta have it throw down the sideline

533
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: to some kid named and I was like, whoa and

534
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 2: Mendoza mobile in the pocket, live arm. I like him

535
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: a lot. I think there's no doubt he's gonna be

536
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: the first quarterback off the board. And I'm looking at like, well, Giants,

537
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: you know Jackson Dart. I feel like they're going to

538
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: give that a go. Probably, we'll see what the new

539
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: coach says. Raiders badly need a quarterback. Titans got their

540
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: guy Browns three and ten. They need a quarterback. So

541
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: if they get the number one pick, are they taking Mendoza?

542
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: And the real question is like, are people getting delusional

543
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: about Shdor? Have we seen improvement? Oh? Without a doubt,

544
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: he looked good today. Reality check, Rob, This was the Titans.

545
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: Everybody looks good against them. They are a terrible football team.

546
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: Their defense is rotten. Shador cooked nearly brought them all

547
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: the way back. I think people are losing the plot

548
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: here with Kevin Stefanski and Cleveland. This idea that you're

549
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: gonna fire him get someone better? Is it because Savanski

550
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: you a two time coach of the Year rop He's

551
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: really good.

552
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: I could not disagree with you more.

553
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: James, Oh wow.

554
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: I'm not not quite Josina Anderson gonna defend Shador Sanders.

555
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 4: But the way that Kevin Stefanski has handled this kid

556
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: throughout the season has been coaching malpractice and nothing worse

557
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: than what we saw on Sunday. He closes the game

558
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: on the last two drives when they're down by two scores,

559
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 4: gotta have it eight for ten with a touchdown including

560
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 4: a touchdown run. So the kid was starting to really

561
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: really find a groove against that. And now again it

562
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: is the Titans.

563
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: You mentioned it. Titans are not.

564
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: Any good at all. This was described as the toilet Bowl,

565
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 4: if you will, between cam Ward and Shadoor Sanders, but

566
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: he was doing everything that you would ask of him

567
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: to do. Yesterday on Sunday, Shadoor Sanders became the first

568
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: Browns quarterback ever, not in the last five years, not

569
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 4: the last ten or twenty or thirty, first Browns quarterback

570
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 4: ever to go for three p fifty plus three passing

571
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: touchdowns and a rushing touchdown in the same game. He

572
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 4: was as good as anybody could hope from a rookie

573
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: quarterback making what was that his third start of his

574
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: NFL career, and they did what they've done to him

575
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: throughout this time, and honestly what they did to Dylan

576
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: Gabriel as well. Kevin Stefanski decides he is going to

577
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 4: put his own self interest ahead of the interest of

578
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 4: the franchise because them finishing up with a win or

579
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 4: getting a w and finishing the season at five and

580
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: twelve as opposed to four and thirteen is immaterial. It

581
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 4: does nothing to them, does nothing to help them moving forward.

582
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: It is nothing to help them this season. Shador standers,

583
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 4: and we talked about this before. Not getting him reps

584
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 4: in practice is coaching out because you know that Kenny

585
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: Pickett and Joe.

586
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: Flack were not the answer long term. That's number one.

587
00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: Number two.

588
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: When he did get they practice, are he starting to

589
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: a player in the season. They take him out in

590
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: the preseason during the two minute drill like, no, we

591
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: need to get somebody else, and the guy who knows you,

592
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: it's like, well, why don't you want to see what

593
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: you have in this young quarterback? And last, but not least,

594
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: this is something that they've done throughout the season. It's

595
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 4: going for two in the wildcat situation with Jenigings. This

596
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 4: is not new. It's not something they just did on Sunday.

597
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: Throughout the season, they get in close, they pull the quarterback.

598
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 4: They've run a wildcat and it's been reasonably success. Gonna

599
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 4: say it's one hundred percent or zero percent, but it's

600
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: been okay. The problem is you have a quarterback who's

601
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: playing with a lot of confidence. He's showing that the

602
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: team around him is galvanized. For whatever it's worth, they're

603
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: enjoying what they're seeing from him. If you win the game,

604
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 4: if you lose the game, it doesn't matter. What you

605
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 4: want to do is put the ball in his hands.

606
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: Put him in these situations and see what he's got.

607
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: And if you continue to pull the rug out from

608
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: under him because you have this frustration with the media,

609
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: or you just don't like this kid, or you don't

610
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: like you know, whatever he's about. Whatever, the answer is,

611
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: it's not about you. It's about the Cleveland Browns. And

612
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: right now we don't know whether or not Shador Sanders

613
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: can be good in a two point conversion. We don't

614
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: know up until yesterday how good he is in a

615
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 4: two minute drill because you kept taking those opportunities away

616
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 4: from him. And that's why I believe Kevin Stefanski is

617
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: gonna be on the hot seat. And that's why I

618
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 4: would not be surprised if this offseason, depending who's available,

619
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: he could be looking for a new job.

620
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

621
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Speaker 2: So one of the big things about firing coaches is

622
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: you've got to have like a game plan. I'm like, okay, listen,

623
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't fire. But if you articulate the game plan,

624
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: if you're the GM and you go to the owner

625
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: and say, hey, listen, I don't like what Sefanski's doing

626
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: with this kid, we gotta do something. Okay, well, what

627
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: do you think about doing? Well, I'm not firing him

628
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: unless you're gonna tell me your plan who you got,

629
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: Like Penn State that situation when James Frandsly the ran

630
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: him off the middle of the season and they were like,

631
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: we're gonna get somebody were good, They got nobody. They

632
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: whiffed on Signetty and a bunch of people. Then they

633
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: fall asked backwards into Matt Campbell.

634
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

635
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: Higher I believe Matt Campbell was well regarded at Iowa State,

636
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 2: excellent coach, wanted by the pros, delivered players to the pros.

637
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: And it's like, wait, why didn't anybody think of Matt

638
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: Campbell before? Great get Now they fell backwards into him.

639
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: I don't know that the NFL is gonna work like that,

640
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: because I mean, rob this is kind of a barren market.

641
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: Like I saw what's her name? She writes at the athletics.

642
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: She's an NFL Rusini. She's like, here are a list

643
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: of the coaches and it's like, okay, what agent gave

644
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: you that. It's like seven defensive coordinators and one of

645
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: them is like Matt Nagy and I'm like, what nobody's

646
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: bringing in? Nakey, Okay, it's not happening, Like a lot

647
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: of I'm like, you can't fire in my opinion, Stefanski

648
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: and bringing a guy like Naggy, you can't. So if

649
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: you could say, hey, we're gonna steal you know, this

650
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: guy or this coordinator or this guy Marcus Freeman, We're

651
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: gonna get him, notre Dame, Like, come on, it's not happening.

652
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: So I don't know where the great candidates are. It's

653
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: just not a great year. I don't know if Dable qualifies.

654
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: But this also dovetails into the New York Giants situation

655
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of rumors that they want Mike

656
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: Tomlin or they want John Harbaugh, and I'm like, what

657
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: the Tomlin stuff I didn't get last week? Now it's

658
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: gonna be silenced because Aaron Rodgers had his best game

659
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: in years and the Steelers stunned the Ravens. One of

660
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: the picks I was way, way wrong about Ravens, just

661
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: they are on the struggle bus Lamar Jackson's just not

662
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: the same guy. But the thing I noticed watching the

663
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 2: Ravens is I saw zero energy, zero juice. Like Aaron

664
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: Rodgers is immobile. He can't go anywhere. We watched him

665
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: get bodied by the Buffalo bills. Okay, the Ravens didn't

666
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: sack him once or turn him over once this week,

667
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: like really could. There was like no pressure. They were

668
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: sitting back and the secondary is getting cooked. DK met

669
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: half at his best day by a mile. I mean,

670
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: the Steelers didn't have an air pass over twenty yards

671
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: completed in over a month. I think the exact date

672
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: was October twenty sixth. They had multiple on Sunday. It's like,

673
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: what are the Ravens doing? And I just wonder are

674
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 2: the Ravens kind of quiet quitting on Harball? I don't

675
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: know what's happening. I mean, Lamar is not the same guy.

676
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: You almost wonder like Lamar's been back for a minute.

677
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, Rob, have we seen the best Lamar

678
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: Jackson that we're gonna see. He's a two time MVP,

679
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: he's not even thirty, he's not even twenty nine. He

680
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: just doesn't look like the same guy, doesn't look certain.

681
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to see say teams have figured him out,

682
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: but I'm not seeing anything. So it's weird. If you

683
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: want to run off John Harbaugh and Ravens fans today

684
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: are pissed because that's the problem. When you can't when

685
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: you can't definitely blame, like you're not gonna run off Lamar. Okay,

686
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: he just not. You look to blame someone else, and

687
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 2: Harball is getting to blame.

688
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 3: Now.

689
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: It's weird because the blame was on Tomlin last week

690
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: and I'm like, uh, okay, what's your game plan? Who

691
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: are you bringing in? And I don't want to hear Oh,

692
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: we'll go get Brian Dabole because I will remind you

693
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: he did nothing new. Your did want a playoff game

694
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: with Daniel Jones. He did, and outside of that, he

695
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: did like nothing, and he couldn't control the locker room.

696
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: And abdual Carter was just sleeping meetings and he wouldn't

697
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: do a damn thing. Okay, And he decided he wanted

698
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: to start Russell Wilson this season. Okay, so like I

699
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's not like the third quarterback. I think he

700
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: was announcing a game over the week. I don't know,

701
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: but like this whole fire Tomlin fire Harbor, I don't

702
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen, but Rob, it is interesting that

703
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: so many people are so angry. I just want to

704
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: remind you, you run off a good coach. You don't

705
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: know when you're gonna find another good one. Okay, you

706
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: gotta cycle through him. Trust me, I know coaches a

707
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: quarterbacks because I know my Jets and it's been a

708
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: long thirty years.

709
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: Okay, guys, that is a very good point in case

710
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: in point.

711
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: Look at my Vegas Raiders.

712
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: You know, we thought Carol's gonna be done right.

713
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 4: We're gonna get a coach who's gonna stabilize the franchise.

714
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: He's gonna be a culture setter. And you know, we're

715
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 4: maybe not building for the long term, but in the

716
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: short term, we're gonna be respectable. We're gonna go from

717
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: five wins to eight to nine wins right off the bat. No,

718
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: we're going the exact oppice direction. So yes, I could

719
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 4: totally see that happening. And it's funny that you mentioned

720
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 4: these two guys in this Baltimore Pittsburgh game, because it

721
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: looks like both of their fan bases are really fed

722
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: up with each guy. And I know that Mike Tomlin

723
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers kind of quieted the Boo Birds at least

724
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: for one week. Let's see what happens next week, right,

725
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 4: Like this offense got right for one game. I don't

726
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 4: trust them to be right for the rest of the season.

727
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: And I picked Baltimore to win this game, full disclosure,

728
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: and obviously I was wrong, but I didn't pick them

729
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 4: because I was like, hey, Baltimore is looking really good

730
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: right now, and you know, I think Baltimore is the

731
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: better No, it's just more about the Pittsburgh Steelers look

732
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: like a dumpster fire for the last six weeks and

733
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 4: nothing to do with how good. I think Baltimore has

734
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 4: been playing horribly and you touched on it. Lamar Jackson,

735
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 4: since he's come back from that damstring injury, is either

736
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: more hurt than he's willing to let on or it's

737
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: in his head at this point because he's not really running.

738
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 4: I know he ran a little bit on Sunday, but

739
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: he's not running like he usually does. When he does run,

740
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: he's not running away from people like he normally does.

741
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 4: And when he throws the football, he's I want to say,

742
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: he's like floating it, like kind of Tua throwing these

743
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: balls a little bit where it's a lot of air,

744
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 4: and it like he's kind of tossing them as opposed

745
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 4: to stepping into it and firing the ways.

746
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: Look, yeah, the way he used to.

747
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: Like, if you look at the Lamar Jackson we saw

748
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 4: in the first month of the season when they were losing,

749
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 4: he looked light years better than what we've seen in

750
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 4: the last six weeks of the season. So it's interesting

751
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: that you mentioned these two guys again, because even with

752
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: the win, I could totally see Mike Tomlin getting bounced

753
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 4: out this end of the season. I could see a

754
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: team like I don't know, Cincinnati saying, hey, what we

755
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 4: need is a stabilizing force. Let's bring Mike Tomlin and

756
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 4: we already have an offensive plays, let him work on

757
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 4: the defense, and we'll.

758
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: Just go that route.

759
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: I could totally see a situation where the Baltimore Ravens say,

760
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 4: you know what, We've had a lot of success with Harball.

761
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: He's been really good for us, but maybe it's just

762
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 4: kind of run its course. We thought it ran its course,

763
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: you know, seven eight years ago, and then Lamar Jackson

764
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 4: came in and totally changed their fortunes.

765
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: So maybe we'll be proactive here. We'll get rid of him.

766
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: We'll promote either the defense or aston accordion.

767
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 4: I don't think they be the kinds he would bring

768
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: people from the outside, but just say, hey, we need

769
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: a new voice with this team, and that's kind of

770
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 4: run its course.

771
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the new voice angle is interesting, but I would

772
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: just hope that that voice has been a head coaching

773
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: voice before, like a Tom Coughlin or you know, I

774
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: don't know that that voice can be like a twenty

775
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: of twenty, like a thirty five forty forty five year

776
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: old guy like Sean McVeigh. Everybody's like, well, look at McVeigh.

777
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 2: He ends up with the with the rams. He came

778
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: out of nowhere. Dude, mcvhay's won and a million. I mean,

779
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: that guy's really freaking good. You think mcvay's grow on trees,

780
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: go pluck from the McVeigh tree. Let's let me know

781
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: how that works out.

782
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 4: All NFL tree If we're being honest, though, half the

783
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: NFL is the mcveag tree.

784
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was.

785
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 4: Like a five year run with Oh you worked with

786
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 4: John McVeigh for six weeks. Yeah, you're a new offensive coordinator.

787
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: You had dinner with him last week?

788
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: Oh? Done? Deal.

789
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah it's interesting because I mean, again, if you're hiring,

790
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: you want someone coming from like a good culture. But like,

791
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: let's just look at the playoff teams like Vray Bowl

792
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: was a head coach, Slam Dunk, Sean Payton was a

793
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 2: head coach. That's easy. Now Liam Cohen is interesting. He's

794
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: with the Jags. They've caught some breaks. The Jags, by

795
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: the way, I don't know if we're going to talk

796
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: about them really here. They're nine and four. I think

797
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: they've won five of six. They look like they're gonna

798
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: be the three seed and the host a playoff game.

799
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: I don't see them catching Denver in New England. I

800
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: don't see anyone from the Steelers Ravens catching Jacksonville. That's

801
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: kind of crazy. But yeah, again, Liam Cohen has been

802
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: amazing this year. Mike Tomlin's a longtime coach. Mcdermot's a

803
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: long time coach, Jim Harbaugh and then Dimico Ryans has

804
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: has a really good quarterback in the NFC. Peyton Lafleur was.

805
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: Wasn't he the o C? I think he's in the

806
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: Shanahan McVeigh tree.

807
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 4: I think he was from He was an o C

808
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 4: for McVeigh. Same thing with Zach Taylor. Yes, one of

809
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: them was a quarterback coach and one.

810
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: Of them was the OC. Yeah.

811
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni I don't know. I don't know where he

812
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: came from.

813
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 3: But he was OC for the Colts.

814
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: Who was the head coach? Was that?

815
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 4: I'm not even remembering to the Colts Tampa Bay. No,

816
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 4: he was a side coach now, No, but I know

817
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 4: he came from. He came from the Colts, Okay, Seahawks,

818
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 4: from McDonald. I like what he's done.

819
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: He's a harball guy. He was with HARBAUGHDT Michigan, Todd,

820
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: Todd Bowles and Tampa.

821
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: Where was he He was a defensive coordinator.

822
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been around for a little while, all of

823
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: us in Tampa. I'm just so pissed at them. I

824
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: kn't even talk about those bastards. All right, you know

825
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 2: we could wrap up with there was one other topic. Yeah,

826
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: let do Let's do Packers Bears real quick. So did

827
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: hit this game? Six and a half Packers, They get

828
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: the touchdown late cover. When that being said, I thought

829
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: it would be much easier than this. I gotta be real,

830
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: guys keeping it one hundred. I was impressed with Kleb Williams.

831
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 2: I was impressed. They were down fourteen to three, they

832
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: came back. They were down twenty one eleven, they came

833
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: back and it wasn't lucky stuff. Was it turnovers? It

834
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: was Caleb Williams. The run game wasn't really working. They

835
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: end up with one hundred and thirty eight rushing yards

836
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: but no carry longer than nine yards. So it wasn't

837
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: in a bunch of explosives. Third down the money down

838
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: in the NFL, Caleb Williams eight of sixteen conversions. Now

839
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm sorry they were not that. He was eight of

840
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: sixteen passing, but the Bears were eight of sixteen on

841
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: third down. Your quarterback making plays on third down, he

842
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 2: was good and you know what he so. Sam Darnold

843
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: doesn't like when you force him to his left. He

844
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: does not roll out to his left well at all.

845
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: The Vikings showed that anytime he rolled left, man it

846
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: was ugly. Falcons obviously didn't do that this week, as

847
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: they're idiots. Every time Caleb Williams rolled to the right,

848
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, oh, he's gonna throw it away, always going

849
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: out of bounce, and he was dropping dimes. I was like, Holy,

850
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: he's throwing lasers down the field on the run. That

851
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: impressed the hell out of me, even in defeat. I

852
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: thought that was one of his best games.

853
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: Of the season.

854
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: I was thoroughly impressed because they needed him. They were trailing,

855
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, you wait to Caleb Williams's trailing.

856
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: Let's see what he's got. He looked pretty freaking good.

857
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: I was very impressed, borderline blown away by how good

858
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: he was. Red zone A bit of a buggaboo two

859
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: a four in the red zone. How about this stat,

860
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: rob Gie. The Packers got to the red zone once

861
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: in the final five minutes.

862
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 3: That's it.

863
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: The other touchdowns were all splash plays, big plays. The Bears.

864
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: Bad decision, let's bloot Jordan Love, don't do that. They

865
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: left Christian Watson on an island twice and he just

866
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: absolutely roasted the defender. You can't guard him one on

867
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: one unless you've got any lead. He's too fast, too big,

868
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: his hands are great. I mean Watson, I started him

869
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: in fantasy, so I'm excited. But the Bears just had

870
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: some defensive like breakdowns on the back end. But I'm

871
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: just telling you, I was stunned. Now it stinks for

872
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: the Bears. Everybody's kind of clowning them. You guys were first,

873
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: now you're seventh. I think they're gonna make the playoffs,

874
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: but I'm not certain they don't have the tie break

875
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: as of now with the Niners. The Lions are coming

876
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 2: and already have a win over the Bears. The Bears

877
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: get him at home, though I don't know. Rob Bears

878
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: are a scary, interesting team because Ben Johnson is really

879
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: he's just good. I was impressed by the Bears. I

880
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: don't know how much of that you saw.

881
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 4: I watched a lot of the Bears actually, because I

882
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 4: you know, I had two fulls culture. I did not

883
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: have the Raiders on any of my bigger TVs. I

884
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 4: had that on the smallest phone possible. I had the

885
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: two big TVs Shoeing Rams, which was a blowout, so

886
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: I kind of had that, just kind of in the periphery.

887
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 4: But I was locked in the Packers Bears. And it's

888
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: funny you say you can't wait impressed with Kayler Williams,

889
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 4: because it felt very JJ McCarthy ish to me on Sunday.

890
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 3: The first half was horrible.

891
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: I think he finished the first half the numbers here

892
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: six of fourteen for thirty two yards. He was just bad,

893
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: just flat out bad. And then in the second half

894
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 4: something happened.

895
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 3: Then he goes.

896
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: Thirteen to twenty one two touchdowns one hundred and fifty

897
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: plus yards, and of course the game's only picked and

898
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 4: he made some throws where you're just like wow, like

899
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: there's three or four guys tops in the NFL who

900
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 4: gonna make that throw rolling, so you're right, you know,

901
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 4: dropping it in a bucket like that kind of stuff.

902
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 4: But he was incredible avoiding pressure all the way up

903
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 4: down the field. But at the same time, he'd have

904
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: these layup passes that he would just miss by two feet.

905
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 4: And then in the game ceiling interception they bust coverage,

906
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: should have been a touchdown. He doesn't see him, he

907
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 4: throws it short, drifts it interception Like, that's not I'm

908
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 4: not gonna jump down his throat about that because it happens,

909
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 4: especially as a young guy, it's only his second season,

910
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 4: first season with a new system. But he does just

911
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 4: enough of those kind of plays a game where he's

912
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 4: like really inconsistent. And the problem with that is, and again,

913
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 4: he's gonna get better as he keeps playing, and he's

914
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 4: gonna be better yet next year he be better. In

915
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 4: your four is that I believe that this Bears team,

916
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: with this coaching staff, is ready to win right now,

917
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 4: hence why they were nine to three coming into Sunday.

918
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 4: The problem is, I don't think Caleb Williams is ready

919
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 4: to win right now. I don't think he's in his

920
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 4: stage into development where they can be expected to win

921
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 4: a playoff game or to advance deep in a postseason.

922
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: And so it sucks that this, to me, is gonna

923
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: be like a gap year for them, because I believe

924
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 4: that that running game is really good, the offensive line

925
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 4: is great, the defense is really good, and Ben Johnson

926
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 4: is drawing up a lot of guys wide open that

927
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 4: Caleb will miss the first time flat out throwing in completion,

928
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: or he'll miss the first window, make something incredible happen

929
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: and make like a wild throw that should have been

930
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 4: done four seconds ago, you know. So it's it's a

931
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 4: lot of up and down roller coaster type stuff that

932
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to just deal with it and hope

933
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: that come this time next year that they're a better

934
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 4: team because of it.

935
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's I think you're probably right there

936
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: a year away, But I I a lot of it's

937
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: gonna come down to Caleb because other than like some

938
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: help on the back end of the secondary in the

939
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: draft or free agency. There's not a lot of needs

940
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: on this team. They got the receivers. They were missing

941
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: their number one receiver, Roalmadenze. They got tight ends like

942
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: they're good.

943
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 3: They got players, They got a lot of players.

944
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a good squad.

945
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,840
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Speaker 2: All right, So Monday Night football, Eagles, Chargers. I did

952
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: hit Eagles minus two and a half, mostly rob It's

953
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: because I don't know what we have from Justin Herbert,

954
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: and I do think the Eagles bounce back. You know,

955
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: they haven't looked great at home this season, but you

956
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: go on the road and they're like, oh, we'll go

957
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: to Kansas City beat the Chiefs. Although that doesn't look

958
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: as good now. They went to Tampa beat the Bucks.

959
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: That's solid win. They let I think they let the

960
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: Cowboys twenty one nothing on the road like they away

961
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: from home. They had a nice win at Minnesota before

962
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: the Vikings fell off. Like you know, the pressure of

963
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: Philly maybe gets to them at home. I don't know

964
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: the noise, but I do think going on road so far,

965
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 2: probably sixty five sixty eight percent Eagles fans, that's my guest.

966
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: I do think they're gonna be fine. And yeah, like

967
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know what Herbert gives you. No

968
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter for the Eagles, so that won't be great.

969
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 2: Omar on Hamptown is back for the Chargers. Chargers will

970
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: run the ball thirty or more times. I think the

971
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: real question is what does Jesse Minter do? Does he

972
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: stay in his quarter zone because we know that you know,

973
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts has some issues against zone. He much prefers

974
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: man throwing his guys open like AJ Brown. This should

975
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: be a big DeVante Smith game, just going and sitting

976
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: in the pockets. Eagles offensive line hasn't been great. You know,

977
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: a Saquan have a big one. I doubt it, so

978
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: I'll go, but you give me less than a field

979
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: goal for the Eagles, and I do think remember the

980
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 2: Chargers have their season next week against the Chiefs, and

981
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a little looking at no. Divisional

982
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: matchup doesn't mean as much in the division. Next week

983
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 2: is huge. You win that and you could just eliminate

984
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. You could, you could bury them. So, you know,

985
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of effor we get, especially

986
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: with the with the whole, Like if it's Trey Lance,

987
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: this is probably what seven and a half. So I'll

988
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 2: go Eagles Eagles twenty one, Charger seventeen. Yeah.

989
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 4: I could not agree with you more. And again, this

990
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 4: has less to do with the Eagles everything to do

991
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 4: with the Chargers. Until we see how Justin Herbert can

992
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 4: function with that hand injury, it's hard to bet on him.

993
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 4: And the other thing is you would say, okay, well,

994
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 4: if he's compromised, we're gonna lean on the running game.

995
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: Unte what we can do. I believe is it Jordan,

996
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 4: is it Carter or Davis? Who's out with the d

997
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: Jalen Carter is out right, So you're like, hey, we're

998
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: gonna try to run the ball down their throats. Well,

999
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 4: the problem is Marion haf is making his first return

1000
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 4: from the IR We don't know what he's gonna look

1001
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 4: like after missing the last what six weeks? Yeah, you

1002
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 4: know that offensive line is not great, and that's an understatement.

1003
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: So you know, you don't think that they can really

1004
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 4: take the pressure off of Justin Herbert the way you

1005
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 4: would like to. So with that in mind, even though

1006
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: I don't think the Eagles are a great team, and

1007
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 4: if all things a regal, I would probably pick the Chargers,

1008
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: But in this specific situation, I think you gotta take Philadelphia.

1009
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, a long Monday Pod. We are back tomorrow.

1010
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: You see that Lakers win, rob g Hell, yeah, we back.

1011
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: Nice to have King James back. They lost Friday to

1012
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: the Celtics and they get the nice bounce back. I

1013
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: still can't I mean, Thunder won't lose. Gonna make the

1014
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: tough for the Lakers to catch him to Thunder, I mean,

1015
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: and do you think at any point they people start

1016
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: caring about them or no?

1017
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 4: When they get to sixty five wins are sixty five

1018
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 4: and six, then.

1019
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: I know you can see sixty one all right, nobody

1020
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: cares about Yeah, sorry, guys, I had to get that.

1021
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: And they've won fifteen straight. Lakers are now tied with

1022
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: the Nugs for the second in the West. How about them? Lakers,

1023
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: rob g Gee Tomorrow