WEBVTT - Behind the Insurrections - Hitler's Munich Beer Hall Putsch, Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler, Sophie, Sophie, Sophie. But we did it. I always

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<v Speaker 1>promised we do it again. That's our That's everyone's favorite

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<v Speaker 1>intro is when I just a totally shouted Hitler. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Hitler today. This is Behind the Bastards podcast

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<v Speaker 1>about the worst people in all of history. I'm Robert Evans,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is actually a special mini series of Behind

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<v Speaker 1>the Bastards called Behind the Insurrections. Uh. Last episode we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Benito Mussolini's March on Rome. This episode, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about another fascist insurrection directly inspired by the March

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<v Speaker 1>on Rome and carried out by Bastard's pod side character

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<v Speaker 1>and main character, Adolf Hitler. We're talking about the Munich

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<v Speaker 1>beer Hall push today. Yeah, lighted a fire, baby lighted

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<v Speaker 1>on so awful insurrection. I realized I should probably reference

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<v Speaker 1>where I got that from. It's okay, so Common the

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<v Speaker 1>actor and I call him the actor. I'm finishing. That

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<v Speaker 1>is an interesting since the rapper. Okay and yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>one could argue of the top ten list of greatest

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<v Speaker 1>rap albums of all time, Common may hold two of

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<v Speaker 1>those slots, one of which is an album called Resurrection

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<v Speaker 1>and That's where I got that from, was because he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying Ris Rick should so I was just saying insurrection,

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<v Speaker 1>deep cut, unnecessary piece of information. But you can pull

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<v Speaker 1>that out next time somebody tried to judge you about

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<v Speaker 1>your pop culture stuff. Beautiful, thank you. I'm more excited

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that he was common sense. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he got into Hollywood and decided to drop the sense,

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<v Speaker 1>which no com There was a there's a band out

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<v Speaker 1>here in l A, like a local band who sued

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<v Speaker 1>him whose name was common said, and they were like

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<v Speaker 1>almost like a three eleven sublime, like white Boy Raggai band,

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<v Speaker 1>and they sued him for the name. They were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we were common sense first, and I mean I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you can't copyright the word or name

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<v Speaker 1>common sense, but they wont. So he was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever comment and then became a list celebrity. I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, speaking of people who won, we should

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<v Speaker 1>talk about hitler Um at least for a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>not in this particular story, although eventually, at least when

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<v Speaker 1>this particular story ends, it's not the end of the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This particular story is with Nazi defeat. But the broader

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<v Speaker 1>story of the Nazis is more complicated than that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna start here by talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Munich, because generally when people talk Nazis, they

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<v Speaker 1>wind up kind of focusing on Berlin Um. But Munich

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<v Speaker 1>is where the National Sohalist Germans Workers Party, the n

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<v Speaker 1>s d a P, the Nazis, That's where they came from.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the birthplace of the Nazi movement is Munich. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you look a little bit into Munich's history it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Um. Munich is a city in the German

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<v Speaker 1>state of Bavaria Um and Bavaria is historically the most

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<v Speaker 1>conservative part of Germany. It's kind of like Texas, uh

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<v Speaker 1>in that even after German unification in eighteen seventy, Bavarians

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<v Speaker 1>tended to see themselves as different and other from like

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of Germany, right like we're Germans, sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're more Bavarian, right Like it's it's this this the

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<v Speaker 1>attitude that you do kind of see like Texans have

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of this, right like where we're our own thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's always big in Bavaria and there's this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like traditionalism. They have their own monarchy that's separate

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<v Speaker 1>from the Kaiser right, like the Kaiser's in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>Bavaria still, but they also have their own king UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of Bavarians who aren't super into

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of being part of Germany right because they

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<v Speaker 1>they they are more Bavarian than anything. Now. Adolf Hitler,

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<v Speaker 1>who was again in Austrian so he's not really a

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<v Speaker 1>German by the consideration of a lot of Germans. He

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<v Speaker 1>moves to Munich in nineteen thirteen mainly because he was

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<v Speaker 1>getting drafted to go join the Austrian Army and he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to join the Austrian army. So he's a

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<v Speaker 1>draft dodger and he moves to Munich to avoid serving

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<v Speaker 1>his time in the military. UM and just based on

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<v Speaker 1>what happens lest this is less because Hitler was Hitler

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<v Speaker 1>was not scared of being in the military. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like Austria. He thought it was like racially polluted UM

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<v Speaker 1>and so he moved to Munich because it was more

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<v Speaker 1>in line with his right wing sensibilities. UM. So he

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<v Speaker 1>rented a cheap room and he made a poverty level

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<v Speaker 1>income in Munich painting pictures of like famous buildings in

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<v Speaker 1>town because the beautiful city and selling them to tourists.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was like a whole industry in Munich. A

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of of little artists would paint pictures of local

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<v Speaker 1>buildings and sell them as like keepsakes to tourists. Hitler

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of unique among these artists because while most

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<v Speaker 1>of them would actually go out to where those buildings

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<v Speaker 1>were with like an easel and paint the buildings and

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<v Speaker 1>then sell their pictures and stuff, Hitler would buy cheap

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<v Speaker 1>postcards of those buildings and paint alone in his room

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<v Speaker 1>where he spent most of his time reading fringe political

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<v Speaker 1>tracts and one presumes masturbating furiously. We have to Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just unbelievable. Yeah, yeah he was. I mean he was

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty right wing guy. But yeah, he's he's pounding

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<v Speaker 1>it in his little office um and painting from postcards. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's not a very good artist, which is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the key little because he lived in like a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny little real he was renting from a lady. He

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<v Speaker 1>was he was very little. Yeah, when Hitler, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>we were just putting him down for no reason. But no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he was extremely poor. So when Hitler moved to Munich,

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<v Speaker 1>he had just finished being like a homeless person in

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<v Speaker 1>in Vienna, Like he lived in like a men's home

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff for like people who couldn't afford um to

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<v Speaker 1>stay off the street and whatnot. So he had just

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<v Speaker 1>gotten out of like a really dire financial situation. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually part of why he was in a dire

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<v Speaker 1>financial situation is he inherited money from his mom, but

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<v Speaker 1>then his sister needed it for her kids, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he gave up his inheritance to her. Um, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of his evidence that, like everyone who turns out terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a period of time in which Hitler might

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<v Speaker 1>not have wound up being Hitler. Um. So anyway, important

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<v Speaker 1>to keep in mind. So Hitler's living in Munich, He's

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<v Speaker 1>painting shitty paintings, tugging it all the time, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>reading a bunch of like reactionary right wing zines, like

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<v Speaker 1>poorly mimiographed newsletters about the dangers of the Jews. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like a huge thing Hitler's doing in this period. Some

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<v Speaker 1>things never changed, man. Yeah, Yeah, It's like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>he's like hanging out on the day's equivalent of eight Chan,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like these tracts that are being passed out

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<v Speaker 1>on the street. So when World War One kicks off,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, in this period, right the Archduke's assassinated,

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<v Speaker 1>as we talked about last time, but in the run

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<v Speaker 1>up to World of One, Benito Mussolini's furiously trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get his country Italy involved in the war. UM. Germany

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<v Speaker 1>goes to war with the World UM, and Hitler immediately

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<v Speaker 1>joins up and become as an infantry man. UH. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's almost immediately thrown into one of the most horrifying

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<v Speaker 1>battles in not just like the whole war, but like

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<v Speaker 1>ever it's known colloquially as the Slaughter of the Innocence

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<v Speaker 1>because the Germans sent tens of thousands of basically children

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<v Speaker 1>to die to like Allied machine guns, a horrible battle. UM. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time as Hitler's watching his friends getting

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<v Speaker 1>mowed down in the trenches, Herman Gerring, who would become

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<v Speaker 1>his future second in command, is becoming one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first fighter pilots in history. Gering flew with Manfred ron

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<v Speaker 1>Richtoven the Red Baron's Flying Circus. He took command of

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<v Speaker 1>the squadron after Ricktoven got killed in nineteen eighteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>he got something. He shot down like twenty nine planes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an extremely good fighter pilot, and it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>dad becomes like a dashing national hero. Now another big

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi you might know, Heinrich Himler was too young to

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<v Speaker 1>serve during World War One. He came from that awkward

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<v Speaker 1>generation where you were too young to fight in the

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<v Speaker 1>First World War, and he would have been too old

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<v Speaker 1>to fight in the second, and so his entire youth

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<v Speaker 1>was spent like idolizing these soldiers go off to die

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<v Speaker 1>in France who he was unable to join. Now, another

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<v Speaker 1>fellow who went to war in nineteen fourteen was Ernst Pohner.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Powner was a middle aged I know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>rough name. You gotta give the guy some credit for

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<v Speaker 1>it the real cross to bear. So Powner grew up

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<v Speaker 1>or Powner was like a middle aged, conservative educated Bavarian,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty right wing guy. When the war starts and he

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<v Speaker 1>was commissioned as an infantry officer and eventually rose to

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<v Speaker 1>regimental command. Now, despite being a Bavarian to his soul

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<v Speaker 1>and thus being kind of like separate from the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of Germans, fighting in the war gives him this sense

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<v Speaker 1>of like unity with the rest of Germany and he

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<v Speaker 1>starts to feel like a member of this, like this

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<v Speaker 1>unified nation for the first time in his life. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, all of Bavaria was brought closer in step

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<v Speaker 1>to the rest of Germany. As a result of the war.

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<v Speaker 1>The region industrialized rapidly to provide armaments, and as the

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<v Speaker 1>German state devoted itself increasingly to becoming an engine of

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<v Speaker 1>arms production. Um, Bavaria becomes like a big part of that,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly Nuremberg or not, I think I think it might

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<v Speaker 1>have been. It was it was Narremberg. I'm not great

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<v Speaker 1>on all the other German cities, but like Bavarius starts

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<v Speaker 1>industrializing heavily, and their military was like just the best

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, incredibly good. Yeah yeah, like like Germany

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<v Speaker 1>actively amazing goes up against the entire rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>world in World War One and comes pretty close to winning.

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<v Speaker 1>They yeah, they like it's not like World War Two

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<v Speaker 1>where after a while, like they're almost they almost pulled

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<v Speaker 1>it off almost one yeah yeah, um, so the Kaiser's

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<v Speaker 1>propaganda had forbidden so like and that that's actually part

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<v Speaker 1>of the problem is that right up until the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the war, Germany could win it. It's not again,

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<v Speaker 1>not like World War Two. We're after nineteen forty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone can see the writing on the wall up until

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<v Speaker 1>like late nineteen eighteen, Germany could pull that ship off.

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<v Speaker 1>Um And this is sort of compounded in the minds

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<v Speaker 1>of German people who see their soldiers winning by the

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<v Speaker 1>Kaisers propaganda, because the Kaiser had forbidden journalists from reporting

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<v Speaker 1>on the dire situation in the West. Um. So number one,

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<v Speaker 1>Germany is in a pretty good position most of the war.

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<v Speaker 1>They knock Romania and Russia out of the fight, so

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<v Speaker 1>they beat like two powers, including Russia, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>a fifth of the world's land masks which they heard

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<v Speaker 1>of at the time. They conquer Ukraine, um like get

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<v Speaker 1>it in a treaty basically, and they spend most of

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<v Speaker 1>the war within spitting distance of Paris. So on a map,

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<v Speaker 1>Germans spend most of that war thinking like we're winning.

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<v Speaker 1>This is tough, we're losing a lot of men, but

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<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna win this thing now. The situation on

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<v Speaker 1>the map belied some crucial realities, including the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>as the war went on, Germany was completely hollowed out

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<v Speaker 1>of soldiers, of supplies, and of food. Three quarters of

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<v Speaker 1>a million German civilian starved to death as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of the Allied blockade. UM. By the time Germany surrenders

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<v Speaker 1>in the winter of nineteen eighteen, it's army is on

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<v Speaker 1>the very brink of collapse. The generals who are in

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<v Speaker 1>charge at the end a guy named Eric Lundor for

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<v Speaker 1>you might remember from the Wonder Woman movie. Yes, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the bad guy and Wonder Woman um, but was a

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<v Speaker 1>real dude. UM. And Paul von Hindenberg, who was his

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<v Speaker 1>his co general. We're not the ones to accept failure gracefully, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like both of them had some victories to their name,

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<v Speaker 1>both of them made some major strategic errors at the

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<v Speaker 1>end that we're a big factor in German defeat. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the Germans lose, they don't stay on deck

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, hey, guys, we tried our best, we

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<v Speaker 1>fought as hard as anyone could fight, and we got

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<v Speaker 1>our We we just lost. They fucking bounce like as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as it becomes clear they're going to surrender, they're

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<v Speaker 1>fucking out of there. Yeah yeah, so back yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>they they hand over responsibility for negotiating Germany's surrender because

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<v Speaker 1>the Kaiser also bounces like that motherfucker's off the Belgium

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<v Speaker 1>on a trade like um. So all of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who had gotten Germany into war and had like pushed

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<v Speaker 1>the war the whole time leave and put the responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>for negotiating the surrender on the social democrat dominated Reichstag.

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<v Speaker 1>So Germany overnight is a social democracy. And also the

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<v Speaker 1>liberals who had been most a lot of them anti

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<v Speaker 1>war up to that point, now have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>negotiating germany surrender. Meanwhile, the guys who were responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>losing the war start concocting a narrative that the left

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<v Speaker 1>had stabbed the German army in the back, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they lost. And when I say the left,

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<v Speaker 1>I also mean the Jews, because that's what they mean, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're not, yeah, the left. And it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing people talk about cultural Marxism today, right the turn

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<v Speaker 1>back then was Judeo Bolshevism. But it's the same idea, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first days and weeks after Germany's defeat, there

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<v Speaker 1>were just a bunch of revolutions all throughout these different

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<v Speaker 1>cities in Germany, and a lot of them were left wing.

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<v Speaker 1>But Verry was not spared in this wave of unrest.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, there was a strong While Bavaria is

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<v Speaker 1>very conservative, in Munich in particular, there's a very vibrant

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<v Speaker 1>left wing. And several days before Germany signs the armistice

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<v Speaker 1>on November eleven, on November seven, this huge crowd as

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<v Speaker 1>symbols in Munich and they forced the Bavarian king to

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<v Speaker 1>leave his throne. Now, the guy who orchestrate did this

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<v Speaker 1>was a dude named Kurt Eisner, and he's the head

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bavarian Social Democratic Party and his goal was

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<v Speaker 1>to you know what he did. He wanted to kick

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<v Speaker 1>out the king and establish a Bavarian republic. Now, that

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<v Speaker 1>worked for a little while. The unfortunately Eisner, the coalition

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<v Speaker 1>that Eisener used to kind of kick the king out

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<v Speaker 1>and establish a republic was only united in their desire

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it into the war and get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the king. And once that war ended and the king

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<v Speaker 1>was gone, they didn't agree on anything else because it

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<v Speaker 1>was a coalition of like the far left, but also

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like center left people and even centrists

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<v Speaker 1>were just like this World War One thing doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be working out for anybody. All of us sucks

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us. And when that ends, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these centrists are like, well, we don't really agree

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<v Speaker 1>with the left on anything else, you know, And there's

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<v Speaker 1>this huge desire to We've got the king out, the

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<v Speaker 1>war has gone. Let's go back to business as usual.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to the way things were before the war.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people Americans can understand. People. Yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back to branch man. Yeah, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to brunch. And a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>centrists wanted to go back to the center right and

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<v Speaker 1>the center left, arguing because both the extreme right and

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<v Speaker 1>the extreme left had been empowered by the war and

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<v Speaker 1>the economic collapse that came with it, and these these

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<v Speaker 1>folks in the middle were scared by that. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is before like Proust, and like the new like the

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<v Speaker 1>new Democrats or the new like Constitution. They right, like this,

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<v Speaker 1>this is right, this is before the Weimar Constitution. Istion

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<v Speaker 1>Eisner over Eisner leads his sort of revolution like five

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<v Speaker 1>days before Germany surrenders. Um. So this is contemporary, like

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<v Speaker 1>the Weimar Constitution starts being written during the period where

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this is happening. But this starts before.

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<v Speaker 1>This starts while the Kaiser is still on the throat, right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fairly sure while the Kaiser is still on the front.

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<v Speaker 1>It starts before the official German surrender. So things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the center right or the center left decides like, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really want to work with Eisener. Eisner's support dissolves,

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<v Speaker 1>and he kind of winds up unable to govern because

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't really have a lot of people backing him. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>There's new elections, uh in January of nineteen nineteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of center left dominates as opposed to Eisner's

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<v Speaker 1>far left. So on the morning of February one, nineteen nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Eisner starts walking to the lawn Tag, the land Tag,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like they're, you know, kind of their Congress

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing, to resign his position as head of

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<v Speaker 1>the local government. Now, while he's on his way, this

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<v Speaker 1>German noble count Anton Arco Valley, which is a fucking badass.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Arco Valley, it's like he's like a Spiderman victim right, Billy, Yeah, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a he's a rich Bavarian nobleman. So Arco Valley

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<v Speaker 1>like comes up and shoots him dead. Eisner. Um so

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<v Speaker 1>because he's you know, Arco Valley is a monarchist and

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<v Speaker 1>a and a far right kind of guy, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to murder this left wing dude, even though the

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<v Speaker 1>guy is about to leave power willingly. So one of

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<v Speaker 1>Eisner's Eisner does have some very loyal followers, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of them responds to Eisner being killed by gunning down

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<v Speaker 1>another politician. And for reasons unknown to history, this like

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<v Speaker 1>leftist supporter of Eisner, instead of going after one of

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<v Speaker 1>arco Valley's allies, picks a moderate liberal um, a guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Ernard our Um and shoots him. Now, our survives

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<v Speaker 1>an hour at the time is kind of the head

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<v Speaker 1>of the Social Democrats and Munich. So he's like, he's

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of the Joe Biden right, Like he's like

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<v Speaker 1>a moderate liberal. Um. Yeah uh. And this leftist shoots

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<v Speaker 1>him instead of one of arco valleys allies for a

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<v Speaker 1>good reasons that aren't really well known. Um, but our survived.

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<v Speaker 1>What theories you know, I I haven't really heard a

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<v Speaker 1>good one. It might just be that, as a rule,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks on the far left will always

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<v Speaker 1>hate liberals more than they hate the right. Um. It

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<v Speaker 1>might have been it's like it was just like personal

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that fool hit on my girl. Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been personally. He might have been a man. I took

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<v Speaker 1>my chance. He might have just fucked up right, like

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<v Speaker 1>guns are at the wrong rate back then, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I don't really know. Um Ours survived

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<v Speaker 1>though he doesn't get killed, but his injuries keep him

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<v Speaker 1>out of politics for two years. And while our was

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of a centrist, he was an effective leader

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<v Speaker 1>of the Social Democratic Party. He was good at getting

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<v Speaker 1>people in line. Um And the fact that he's out

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<v Speaker 1>of the picture for a couple of years means that

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<v Speaker 1>his party is effectively rudderless right at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>that the far left is energized by Eisner's martyrdom. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>our successor, a guy named Johann Hoffman, was weak and

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<v Speaker 1>not very competent um. So you've got this position where

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<v Speaker 1>the dominant center left party loses its effective leader at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time as the radical left gets energized by

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<v Speaker 1>the assassination of like one of their big dudes. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna read a quote now from a

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<v Speaker 1>graduate dissertation by James McGee titled the Political Police in

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<v Speaker 1>Bavaria nineteen nineteen to nineteen thirty six. To explain what

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<v Speaker 1>happens next. The assassination of Eisner had worked as a

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<v Speaker 1>solvent upon political consensus such as it was in Bavaria.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hoffman government found itself caught between the advance of

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<v Speaker 1>radicalism on both the right and the left the first round,

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<v Speaker 1>and the struggle went to the radical left. No longer

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<v Speaker 1>able to maintain itself in Munich, the Hoffman government decamped

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<v Speaker 1>on April seven, eventually coming to rest in the northern

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<v Speaker 1>Bavarian city of Bomberg. Authority in Munich was assumed successively

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<v Speaker 1>by two councils, the first led by an ill assorted

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<v Speaker 1>collection of independent socialists and anarchists, and the second by

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<v Speaker 1>the communists. So two different successive kind of far left

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<v Speaker 1>governments take over through like a revolution basically, but neither

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<v Speaker 1>of them are very good at it right. Neither of

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<v Speaker 1>them really have like the anarchists are way more focused

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<v Speaker 1>on creating public art and stuff um and don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have a great, uh cohesive set of plan to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the needs of a lot of like uh Moonstionaris,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is like people of the people of Munich,

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<v Speaker 1>um whereas the communists are kind of they're not really

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<v Speaker 1>that good at building support outside of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are already involved in their movement. Uh there there spent

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time going after their political enemies, um

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<v Speaker 1>and again aren't very good at consolidating power. Meanwhile, outside

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<v Speaker 1>the city, conservative forces start regrouping and preparing to invade

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<v Speaker 1>Munich because there's been a left wing revolution. What is

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<v Speaker 1>the right going to do? They're gonna murder everyone they can.

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<v Speaker 1>So the core of this right wing movement where the

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<v Speaker 1>Free Corps um, and that's an organization of right wing

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<v Speaker 1>veterans that you could see is broadly similar to groups

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<v Speaker 1>like the Oath Keepers or the three Percenters today. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the main difference between these two is the oath Keepers

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<v Speaker 1>and the three Percenters are mostly people dressing up like

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers who if they were in the military, never heard

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<v Speaker 1>a shot fired in anger. The men of the Free

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<v Speaker 1>Corps are hard sons of bitches, like they have They

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<v Speaker 1>have done a ton of killing. They have seen thousands

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<v Speaker 1>die before their eyes, Like a lot of these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys are like veterans of the trenches. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>not they're not playing, you know, like they're not dressing

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<v Speaker 1>up because soldiers look cool. They've they they have been

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<v Speaker 1>so broken by war that it's the only thing they

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<v Speaker 1>can really do, you know, Larkin over here. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>called the Free Corps, the Free Corp, the Free Corps

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<v Speaker 1>right like where, Yeah so, and the Free Corps. Not

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys. A number of like free core dudes

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<v Speaker 1>actually become anti Nazis later, but a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>Free Corps are the genesis of what becomes some of

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<v Speaker 1>the Nazi street movements too. And it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>we saw with the r d T in Italy right

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<v Speaker 1>where you've got all these veterans. Some of them do

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<v Speaker 1>become some of them just one order and they're more

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<v Speaker 1>Republican than anything. But they'll fight the radical left and

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<v Speaker 1>then they wind up being anti Nazi. Most of them

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<v Speaker 1>go more in a Nazi direction. Some of them wind

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<v Speaker 1>up being kind of more on the left after a

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<v Speaker 1>while because they get, you know, disillusioned by right wing politics.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have this melting pot of soldiers who are

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<v Speaker 1>angry at things, and the bulk of them do go

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<v Speaker 1>to the right. Now. Yeah, so these guys invade and

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<v Speaker 1>they make quick work of the Red forces of the

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<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary Government. I'm gonna quote from macgee's article again. By

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<v Speaker 1>the end of April, the feeble Red forces had been

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<v Speaker 1>pressed back into the environs of Munich itself. At this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>with their backs to the wall, elements of the Red

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<v Speaker 1>Army executed tin hostages. Some of the hostages were members

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<v Speaker 1>of the right radic called Tula Society. Others appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>have been selected almost at random. None of the ten, however,

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<v Speaker 1>had done anything to earn so terrible a retribution with run.

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<v Speaker 1>With one gratuitous act, the leftist defenders of Munich had

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<v Speaker 1>opened the floodgates of violence. The aroused White forces poured

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<v Speaker 1>into the city on May first, bent upon the eradication

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bavarian Soviet Republic and its supporters in the

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<v Speaker 1>most literal sense imaginable. The hardened Free Corps and Army

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<v Speaker 1>troops coursed through the streets of the city, shooting anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who appeared even remotely suspicious. The orgy of execution did

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<v Speaker 1>not stop until May seven, when it was discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>the White forces had mistakenly murdered a group of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one Catholic school boys. These school boys were by no

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<v Speaker 1>means the only innocence who fell before the guns. Before

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<v Speaker 1>this first wave of killing had come to an end,

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<v Speaker 1>over six hundred individuals had been slain, many of them

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<v Speaker 1>individuals with no connection to the Red Army or the

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet Republic. The revolution, which had begun so peacefully six

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<v Speaker 1>months before, had ended in a blood bath. Order had

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<v Speaker 1>returned to Bavaria. And that's kind of the story of

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<v Speaker 1>the radical left in the rat right, right, you get

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<v Speaker 1>the radical left, some of them go a little bit far.

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<v Speaker 1>They killed ten people, and the right murder six hundred people,

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<v Speaker 1>including several dozen schoolboys. Yeah, got dog man, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about this just this time in the world and

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<v Speaker 1>being a you know, albeit African American male, But the

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<v Speaker 1>reality is I live in America, you know that like

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<v Speaker 1>in this in this era that like the type of

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<v Speaker 1>violence these people endured all the time, you know, and instability,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just we really can't get our brain around

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<v Speaker 1>that six hundred Yeah, you know, it was six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>people at least, like they murder a whole school of

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic children, you know, famous leftists the Catholic school. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to be actually, if we're being honest, like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the in Germany, the anti fascists were a

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<v Speaker 1>mix of anarchists, communists, social Democrats, and Catholics. A lot

0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:12.280
<v Speaker 1>of very traditional conservative Catholics were anti fascists because they

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<v Speaker 1>were against the Nazis, right, and they still believed some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty messed up stuff. You're talking about Catholics in the

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<v Speaker 1>thirties and forties. But um, we're not Nazis, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And you get a lot of credit in my book

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<v Speaker 1>if you're anti Nazi, regardless of what you believe in

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<v Speaker 1>that all the other stuff I can say this about you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, this does kind of everything that's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in Germany in this period makes it clear what I

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<v Speaker 1>what I kind of consistently think is the most the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we have going for us the most in

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<v Speaker 1>our present struggle against fascism, which is that our fascists

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>are they're fucking whimps for the most part, right, most

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:52.119
<v Speaker 1>of them have never seen heavy combat. They have not

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 1>seen people shot to death. They haven't shot anyone to death,

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>they have not been in like That's why a lot

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:00.879
<v Speaker 1>of them started to run as soon as like the

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>police started really using force the fascists, the Nazis, the

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>O G Nazis. Most of them are hard, hard people.

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Hitler is an incredibly physically tough man. Like Hitler is

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 1>a guy who got into street fights with a whip,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like, these are these are rough people, um

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<v Speaker 1>and I that's one of the things we have going

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<v Speaker 1>for us is that most of ours just aren't that tough,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Um. Yeah. There's like this weird like combo

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.719
<v Speaker 1>of like there's you're not that tough, but you have

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 1>something to prove, so you're gonna be so you're dangerous

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.920
<v Speaker 1>because you have something to prove, right, But then there's

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 1>you are tough and you have something to prove and

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you ain't scared, you know. I'm like, yeah, that's a

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:50.719
<v Speaker 1>toll that. That's a totally different situation. Yeah. Yeah. Like

0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>you'll see a lot of folks in our far right

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.200
<v Speaker 1>dress up in you know, plate carriers and carry guns

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and look like soldiers. The Nazis did that too, They

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>war military. They dressed like German stormtroopers, and most of

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>them had been right when they dressed like the guys

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 1>who charged through trenches with an axe in one hand

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and a handgun in another. It's because they charged through

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>trenches with an axe in one hand and a handgun

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.880
<v Speaker 1>in another. You know, Yeah, and I know you've seen

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that look, bro as a tangent, but like as much

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 1>as you've trapped as any war zones you've been in,

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>and then even here, like you can see it in

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 1>a person's eyes to where you're like, oh, yeah, you'll

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>cut me, you will cut my throat. You're not, you

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:31.479
<v Speaker 1>won't think twice, You'll cut my throat, Like you can

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 1>see it in a person's eyes. Yeah, it's the willingness,

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the people, and you can really see it

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of folks eyes, the folks for whom

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>doing violence is the same as like turning the page

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.159
<v Speaker 1>in a book, right, Like it doesn't require a switch

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>in their mental circuitry. Yeah, they're just ready, you know,

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.640
<v Speaker 1>and most of them aren't that. Most of the far

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>right in Munich in this period are that kind of person.

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, You've got folks like Heinrich Hemler who were

0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>too young and who want to be that and are

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>playing at it. But a lot of them are really

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:05.919
<v Speaker 1>tough people. So mainstream Munich, which you know, after the

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>right comes in and massacres everybody, it's still like kind

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>of the liberals who are in charge of the government

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 1>for about a year after this point, you know, kind

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>of the mainstream center left, and they blamed the far

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>left for everything, even though the vast majority of the

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 1>killing had been done by folks that were basically proto

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>fascists um and among other things, the fact that the

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>left had taken over the city briefly helped to incite

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and fuel an extremely active right wing malicious scenes. So

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>all of these different street militias of armed young men

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 1>start to form up during this period of time. So

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>different groups of angry young men, many of them veterans,

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>got together to fight the reds and then share their

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.479
<v Speaker 1>city would never fall to the left again again. A

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>liberal government is in charge for the next year, but

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.919
<v Speaker 1>after the Free Corps and the army come in, the

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>real power in Munich is with the military and the police,

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and the dominant political ideology in the city among both

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the center left and center right comes a thirst for

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>order above all else, right, which you can understand, like

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>these people aren't just going through like a lot of

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Americans just want order at this point after the last

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>four years, and we didn't go through a war that

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>killed like what one out of every ten of our

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 1>young men something like that. Yeah, their calls for law

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and order are understandable. Yeah, I think they're you know,

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>the history will show it was the wrong way to

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>go about it, But you have to be more sympathetic

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to them than the people calling for now like well,

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>you can't even imagine. No one in in America can

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 1>imagine we have no Yeah, exactly. Um. So, Ernest Pohner

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>was one of the first men who stepped in to

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>fill this need for order. And he'd been enraged by

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Eisner and you know, even more enraged by the Soviet

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Republic that briefly took charge of Munich. Um and so

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.439
<v Speaker 1>he gets promoted to be the head of the Munich

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Police Force in May of nineteen nineteen. And he's fresh

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.719
<v Speaker 1>back from commanding a regiment in World War One at

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>this point, and as soon as he's put in, you know,

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>in charge of the police force, he sets to work

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>not just crushing Marxism but doing everything he can to

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>encourage the growth of the radical right in Munich. Now,

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the radical right there were a number of different parties

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>at this period, but the one that would come to

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>dominate the Munich far right scene was of course, the

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>National Socialist German Workers Party the n s d a P.

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>They were founded in February of nineteen twenty by a

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>fellow named Anton Drexler. A lot of people don't know this.

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Hitler didn't start the Nazi Party. He wasn't involved at

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the very beginning. It was a locksmith named Drexler who

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>had been involved previously in a bunch of other fanatical

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>nationalist parties. Now, from the beginning, the n s d

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a P. And they're not the Nazis at this point,

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.439
<v Speaker 1>nobody calls them that yet. That that that takes for

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>a while later, So at this point called him the

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>National Socialists or the n s d AP. Their goal

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>initially was to be the party of the German middle class.

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think you'll remember that from our episode on Italy. YEP.

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Drexler sought robust social aid programs for arians. So he

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted socialism four arians, right, and he wanted anyone who

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>was not to not be in his fucking country. That

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that yeah. Now, at the onset, the National Socialists were

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>a small and secretive group of about sixty people. Now,

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>the reichs Wear, which is Germany's post war army becomes

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>immediately concerned with this small party, namely because they were

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>afraid that it might have subversive or revolutionary goals. Right,

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the Army is definitely more anti left than right, but

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>they're concerned about anyone who might be a threat to

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>order in this period, So they decided to send in

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>a spy to look at this young starting party and

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>figure out if it's a threat. And the spy they

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>send is a young German corporal named Adolf Hitler. Like

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>of of all the times, I mean like of So

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>there's so much of world history that fascinates me, but

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>this moment, this time, this time, the in between wars,

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>this time is so interesting to me. U is it

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>so interesting that we should take an ad break for

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 1>a suspect. Yeah, you know who won't send Hitler and

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to infiltrate a radical political party and then become its head.

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Our sponsors, They will not, our sponsors have never ordered

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Adolf Hitler to infiltrate right wing politics. That for a fact,

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely certain. Yes, I'm a bastard for that transition. By

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the way, that was a great transition. Oh my gosh,

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>we have returned and I am just loving talking about

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>some old h bomb hittie hits h bombay. Uh here

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>here's what you could do. Here's what you can do

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>for these people, which is some of the Uh well,

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't get into these Gussies anymore because they're ridiculous.

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>But um, help these people understand this party having to

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>term socialists in it, but they're not socialists, like yeah, yeah,

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>help them understand net. It's just they're they're national socialists,

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>which means which means they're they're kind of and in

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>their conception that means that, like, we seek a socialist

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>state for members of our race, so we want to

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and and some of that was just was just lies

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>because the Germans, a lot of stuff is happening here.

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>For one thing, the left is very powerful in Germany

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>during this point. The Communists are beating the Nazis for

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.959
<v Speaker 1>the most part in elections through most of this history.

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>So and they're both competing for people who have been radicalized,

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about last time, people who have accepted

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.719
<v Speaker 1>that the system is fucked. A lot of them can

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>go left or right. So the Nazis have to be

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>reaching out to the workers, have to be trying to

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>recruit from that. And there's also you know, you are

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about a period of time in which the German

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>economy is it's like five point seven billion marks to

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the dollar. Like Germany is a nation of trillionaires who

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>can't afford food. So you have to be able to

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>speak to these people and promise them some sort of aid.

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>And that was a big part. And and the way

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>basically the left is like everybody deserves to be taken

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>care of. We need to take money away from these

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>We need to nationalize industries, we need to nationalize corporations,

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>we need to give the means of production to workers.

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>The Germans are basically like we need to take money

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>away from the Jews and businesses away from the Jews

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and give it to arians, right because of them. Yeah,

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the idea of like accepting the fact that, like you

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>lost this war. I feel like that's what's so that

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.479
<v Speaker 1>this is part of what's interesting me about this season

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>to this time in history, because it's like you couldn't

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>get your brain around the fact that y'all just lost,

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it just you lost. You drained your economy on

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>a war that you shouldn't have been in the first place. Again,

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>nothing that sounds similar to this country today exactly. Just hey, bro,

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you take it on a chint. You lost, you know

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Let's figure this out. Were you looking for? Like, well,

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>we just lost because of them? Like well anyway, Yeah,

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>none of this is familiar. And it's also when we're

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about sort of socialism within the Nazis. One thing

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>people do need to understand is that in the early

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>period and this hasn't even really evolved yet in the

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>episode we're talking about. This is more in like the

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>later twenties, there's a left wing and a right wing

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>of the Nazi Party. There are Nazis who are anti capitalist.

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>The Night of Long Knives is the right wing of

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the Nazi Party, which is the dominant chunk of the party,

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>murdering all of those ps. Which is not to say

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the left wing of the Nazi Party weren't a bunch

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>of hideous racist monsters. They were, Um, they just believed

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>slightly different things and were then murdered, right Like. That's

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that's what the Knight of Long Knives was, was a

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>purging of the kind of more socialist elements within the

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Nazi Party that they needed to kind of get into

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>power and get enough workers behind them that they could,

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, um take the streets. Um so. Again, a

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of Chairman, his political history is incredibly complicated in

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>this period, so much is going on, um and again,

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>like people who are convinced that the system needs to

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>be destroyed will often have some stuff in common with

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>each other, which is what you do see Nazis and

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>communists on a couple of occasions, like fight together against

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 1>police in the state, not because they agree with each other,

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>but because they agree on the fact that the state

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>is ship. Um you know, it's it's a very messy

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 1>time because everything is falling apart. Again, I'm sure Americans

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>can identify with that. Um so. Yeah. This Hitler's you know,

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>commanding officer sends him to infiltrate this far right group

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and learn if it's like a threat to the German government,

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>which I think you have to count as like one

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>of the worst decisions ever made, like calculation and I

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know if anything's ever backfired more than be like, oh,

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to we we want to make sure

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>these guys don't overthrow the government. Send Hitler in the

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>checkout him yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Mostly underestimated big so Hitler at the time was an

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 1>angry young man, still suffering from his war injuries. He'd

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>been pretty badly messed up at the front, and he'd

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>been at the front for about four straight years. So

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>he's he's riddled with PTSD and physically injured, and he's

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>adrift in a nation on the verge of collapse. The

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>economy is in free fall. People don't have jobs, and

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Hitler's kind of One of the reasons he does this

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>is he's desperate to not get kicked out of the military.

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Most soldiers are released from the military after the war.

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>He hangs onto his job for a while, and this

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>is how and he needs the fucking money, right, so

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 1>he takes this gig. He goes in and shows up

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 1>at a meeting or two of the Nazi Party, and

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:40.399
<v Speaker 1>he finds himself kind of enthralled by the group's discussions. Now,

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>one of the party's early members was a fellow named

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Dietrich Eckert. Now Eckert was an anti Semitic poet, and

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>most historians consider him to be the spiritual founder of

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the Nazi Party. Hitler himself, in some private writings, described

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Eckert as the spiritual founder of Nazism. Now, Eckert was

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>all about nationalism and saving Germany from the Jewish menace

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>that he believed had lost the war for her bereft

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>of a Kaiser. Dietrich became convinced that an Aryan hero

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.479
<v Speaker 1>was needed to save the German race, and he spent

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:12.479
<v Speaker 1>a lot of his time thinking about who that hero

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>might be. And I'm gonna quote Dietrich here. This is

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 1>talking about like what he believes is necessary to save Germany. Yeah,

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the rabble has to be scared shitless. I can't use

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>an officer, by which he means a military officer. The

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>people no longer have any respect for them. Best of

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>all would be a worker who's got his mouth in

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 1>the right place. He doesn't need much intelligence. Politics is

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 1>the stupidest business in the world, right, I mean, politics

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>is the stupidest. Yeah, you have to see Eckard is

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways one of the most effective

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and like political thinkers of all time. He's absolutely right

0:36:55.600 --> 0:37:00.040
<v Speaker 1>about how to take over German democracy. It succeeds, a

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>plan works. Yeah, he turns out he was right. Yeah. Now,

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>during one early Nazi party meeting, a professor got up

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and made an impassioned argument about why Bavaria needed to

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>seceed from Germany. Hitler got enraged by this, and he

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>starts screaming at this professor and he's so eloquent in

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>his arguments about like why Germany needs to stay together,

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>that like everyone who's there is just struck by his

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>his skill as a speaker. Um, And this professor actually

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like flees the room in in shame because he can't

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:31.319
<v Speaker 1>like argue against Hitler. And yeah, this convinces all of

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>the party leaders at the time that Hitler had a

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 1>future as an orator, that he could be like a

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 1>big voice for spreading the party's propaganda. So they start

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>having Hitler gift speeches and they're right, Like he's able

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>to draw a crowd. That guy is a good public speaker.

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>He gets better and better about it over time, and

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>in short order he's the most prominent member of the

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>National Socialist Party and the soon it's figurehead. Now the

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Nazis grew quickly at this point, drawing in other disaffected

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>veterans like Herman Gearing and Ernst Rome. Him. Now, Rome

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>had been a stormtrooper and he's a really interesting guy.

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>He's one of the members who's purged in the Night

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>of Long Knives. So he had in World War One

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>been like a Special Forces guy, an elite assault trooper.

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>He's covered head to toe in scars. His nickname because

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 1>he has so many connections in the military. He's able

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to get like heavy machine guns for these militias and

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 1>stuff like have them smuggled out illegally from the army

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>to these right wing groups. They call him the machine

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Gun King, which is an objectively cool nickname. No, Rome

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>is a terrifying person um and and it's just like

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a like and if you want to think about his

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the way he's seen by a lot of the radical

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.479
<v Speaker 1>right at this point point in Germany. You think about

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Chris Kyle, right, the American Sniper, how

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Republicans talk about him. Rome was that sort of legend.

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>He's just this absolute legendary brawler, a warrior. He's also

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>very almost openly gay, which is why he's murdered in

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the light Night of Long Knives, right, is because like

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Hitler doesn't want that kind of ad pr He's a

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>very interesting guy. Um. Yeah, he's a tough He's a

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>tough and that's like a huge factor in you know

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>there there again we talked about all these kind of

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>countercultural movements coming together. You see versions of this within

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>the Proud Boys too, right like where and that's a

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 1>big part of Like at the time, what you know,

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Romes sexuality wasn't something that they advertised. Now it is

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of an advertising point where it's like, hey, we're

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>not white nationalists, like look, you know our leaders, this

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>our leader is like a black guy. We've got all

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>these gay people, like, we couldn't possibly be fascists. And

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like, no, no, no, The fascists have had always

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 1>at the start a lot of different people represented as

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>long as they're violent. Now, once they get into power,

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>they murder those people. Yeah, Rome doesn't last after Hitler

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>gets into power. No no, no, no. But Hitler's happy

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 1>to be his friend when he needs to be up.

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>The finesse on that kid, Hitler, Man, it's just that

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the finesse is ridiculous, Like yeah, yeah, any you can't

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>finesse is ridiculous. Anyway, Hitler starts attracting these war heres

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.720
<v Speaker 1>because Garing is also herman. Garring is like a fighter

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>ace and he's very handsome as a young man. Like

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone knows like the obese heroin addicted garing that like,

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, gets caricatured when he's a young man. He's

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>this like very handsome, prominent look like he looks like

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.399
<v Speaker 1>a movie star, and he's a legendary fighter pilot. You've

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>got Ernst Rome, who's just like tough as nails, and

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 1>all of these like war heroes start joining the Nazi ranks,

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>which of course brings in more guys from the far

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:33.359
<v Speaker 1>right because you've got all as a young man. Yeah,

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you need a young one. Now I'm looking at young one.

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:42.360
<v Speaker 1>This dude's handsome, young herman Gary, drop the leak. Yeah,

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll show you a picture of him. I'll show you

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a picture of him. Drop that into chet. You know what,

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna agree to disagree on this one. This is

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 1>a point to motherfucker looking like no, no, no, no, no, no,

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw I'm gonna like an ugly lego loss

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 1>from one of the rings. Well you got it. Well

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 1>you gotta type those in there, so I mean no,

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't ugly. Okay, chat chat picture of them. Okay,

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>hold up this the same picture I was looking at. Yes,

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 1>this is not an attractive man. He looks like he

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.399
<v Speaker 1>looks like a young bing Crosby. Yo. That's a little

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>bit of you know what I'm saying, a little Matthew McConaughey, jaw, Yeah,

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. It's traditionally, I I don't

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 1>want to get caught into the talking about how hot

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Herman Garring used to be. Discuss he's still a monster.

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>He is, he's he is seen as being an attractive

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>young war here traditionally attractive recording to Western standards. Also,

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>half of the men in Germany in this period have

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 1>had their faces blown off, So it's the bar is

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 1>not as hot. Um, it's like Ricketts chip, it's a

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:54.280
<v Speaker 1>no for me dog. Okay, well good does not think

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Herman Garring is hot. Well, that's a T shirt right

0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>there on the motherfucking record. We need to we need

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a let's get two sets of T shirts out Team

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Herman Garring was fuckable and Team Herman Garring wasn't fuckable yet, Sophie,

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>can we get can we get t public on? That?

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Is that a good idea? I'm sure, but I don't know.

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just just a picture of Hermann Garring and DTF

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>The question, right under uh, that might not go over

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>well for us. It's all bad, so uh yeah, they

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 1>start to draw in a lot of like because they've

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>got all these war heroes, they start to draw in

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people on the right who had

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>idolized these men's soldiers who you know, these guys have

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 1>been their heroes in the trenches, and also younger men

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>who hadn't been old enough to fight in the war.

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>But we're drawn to wanting to be in the company

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of these legends, guys like Heinrich Hemler, right, he sees

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>all these heroes joining the Nazis. He never got to

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>fight in the war, so he joins the Nazis. Now

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Hitler's give speech after speech after speech, and while he's

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>doing this, Dietrich Ekort is helping Hitler mold his public

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>appearance and create what came to be known as the

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Hitler myth. And this is the idea that Hitler was

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>not just a politician, but he kind of supernaturally embodied

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the spirit of the German people and was their defender

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>against their racial enemies. Eckert is the architect of this idea,

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 1>which is the core of like what became It comes

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:20.839
<v Speaker 1>like the fewer principle like the center of Nazism. Now,

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>one of Eckert's main points was that a new German

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 1>revolution was necessary. The nineteen eighteen revolution, he felt, which

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.359
<v Speaker 1>is like the socialist revolution that takes O Remunich, had

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>failed because it was soulless and Jewish. Eckert wanted a revolution,

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.320
<v Speaker 1>but he wanted a revolution that was led by someone

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:41.240
<v Speaker 1>he crafted, namely hitler Um, that could lead the German

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>people into freedom and wipe away the stain of defeat

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 1>in World War One. Now, of course, the Nazis were

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>opposed even from an early period, as they always are

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>by the left, namely socialists and communists. In this period,

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and this is before the birth of German anti fascismism

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 1>as a movement, there are people fighting fascism, but like

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the idea of like Antifa as we know it like

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 1>comes out of Germany like a decade later than this

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>or so um, that hasn't really evolved yet. And there

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>anti fascism in Germany in this period is at a

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 1>more primitive level than it is in say Italy. Right, um,

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.800
<v Speaker 1>so there are but they are still opposing the Nazis,

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and there are frequent fights at Nazi party rallies. Communists

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and socialists will show up at beer halls where Nazis

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:24.879
<v Speaker 1>are meeting and like try to beat the ship out

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>of these guys, and the Nazis will do the same

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.799
<v Speaker 1>thing at left wing gatherings. All everything, every political thing

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>in Munich happens at a beer hall. And you do

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.360
<v Speaker 1>have to assume that everyone but Hitler has wasted it

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty much all the time. Hitler is not much of

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>a drinker. Everybody else is just fucking man. How come

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:44.280
<v Speaker 1>like as unstable as the world is like at this time, Matt,

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wonder if we would have much more

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>people entering into political discourse if they fought the way

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>that these people fight. Y'all just drinking scrap, Like could

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>you imagine that that? Like our party, I know, our

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>parliament in the seventeen d was like this, you know

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, eight hunts, We used to actually scrap,

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. But like these dudes like

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>like you you talking. It's so funny because it's like

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it's this is hood ship. This sounds like gangbanging, Like

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 1>y'all pulling up. It's like, yo, you left this Yeah,

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm left this what's what's What's what I'm saying.

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:18.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like you flashing signs at each other, y'all, y'are politicians.

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Y'are politicians. You know what I'm saying? Like what that's

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>so that's what I think Again, that's going back to

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:28.879
<v Speaker 1>what I mean by like, we don't have we don't

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:34.800
<v Speaker 1>have categories for it is their officials fight. Yeah, that's

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 1>crazy to me. M Yeah, they are like like and

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>this is a lot of these guys are like kind

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 1>of not elected, like elected leaders do get into fights

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. This. Yeah, a lot of these guys are

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>just sort of like campaigning, and a lot of it

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>happens via street fighting, and it's it's ugly. Ship people

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 1>are being gunned down and stabbed and beating um like

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:59.720
<v Speaker 1>it's nasty stuff. And in fact, it gets so nasty

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that now only does like Hitler start carrying a whip

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and a handgun so that he can like slash people's

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 1>faces open during barbawlls. But the Nazis, in order to

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>like defend their meetings, develop a powerful and organized street

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:14.280
<v Speaker 1>fighting arm. Uh. These guys are called the Storm Abtai

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Lung or the Storm Division and they were created an

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 1>early nineteen twenty as a hall protection force, like a

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 1>beer hall protection force for like the meetings that the

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 1>party would hold in Munich. Now, in addition to having

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of guys who would show up to

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 1>like crackheads and fight communists, they also opened a sports

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:34.720
<v Speaker 1>and gymnastics wing which started training their men in boxing,

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>jiu jitsu, and exercise. And you see the same thing

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:40.359
<v Speaker 1>with modern fascist. There's a lot of fascist and neo

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Nazi m M A. Jim's a strong like lifting culture

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 1>among like the Rise Against movement, who are a big

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>part of Charlottesville Unite the Right in Charlottessville. Like you

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 1>know that that the idea of like nazis loving to

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 1>get into jiu jitsu. Nothing against jiu jitsu, it's rad

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 1>as hell, but like the fact that they've been into

0:46:56.719 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 1>it that goes back a century. Man, I'd say, bro, like, yeah,

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 1>it's been playing its eyes where I'm like I just

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 1>may I just do some like somebody like catasthenics like

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>plan metrics stuff. Man, I'm not going to these gyms

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.799
<v Speaker 1>just just like you just feel like it's just full

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 1>of these like buck boys. You know what I'm saying,

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and now it makes sense. It's like, yeah, there's a

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 1>history of this. Yeah, there's a history which is like

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>there's also some pretty rad you know, anti fascist like

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 1>m m A gyms and stuff out there. Yeah, because

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to train people who aren't Nazis

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and how to defend themselves against But there's a long

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 1>history of like there's a there's a huge like fascist

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:39.360
<v Speaker 1>m m A fighting like network in Eastern Europe, particularly

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:42.359
<v Speaker 1>in Ukraine. Like they'll have these big conventions and and

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 1>competitions and stuff like. It's a big part of that

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:49.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of culture. Um. Yeah, so that you know that

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 1>starts with the Nazis in this period. Um, they're doing

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 1>jiu jitsu in nineteen fucking twenty, so that's kind of

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.399
<v Speaker 1>And the Stormtrooper catchphrase in this period was a very

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>subtle death to the Jews. So not great at keeping

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:08.279
<v Speaker 1>a lid on what they're about, you know. Now. In

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 1>nineteen two, Herman Gearing was promoted to lead the Sturm

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 1>up Tailung, hereafter known as the Essay These are the

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 1>guys that come to be known as the brown Shirts. Now,

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>by that point, his men had spent much of the

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>last two years and by being a steady diet of

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>race hatred and revolutionary fascist propaganda. Wilhelm Bruckner, who was

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the head of the Munich Stormtroopers, told Hitler that year

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that very soon Hitler would be unable to restrain his

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 1>men from doing something. And what Bruckner was warning about

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>is the same thing we saw in Washington, d C.

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.439
<v Speaker 1>On the sixth. If you have this movement of young

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 1>men that you gin up with conspiracies about child eating

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:44.760
<v Speaker 1>pedophiles and the globalist destruction of their race and nation,

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 1>which is exactly the kind of a lot of the

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 1>ship the Nazis are learning hearing this period is like

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>q and on ship right, very similar. If you if

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you get a bunch of angry, violent young men obsessed

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.919
<v Speaker 1>with weaponry focused on that ship for years, they will

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 1>demand to go shed blood to stop it at some

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 1>point and you won't be able to stop them. And

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:07.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of one of the areas where you know Trump

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 1>fucked up is he didn't do anything with them cohesive,

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:13.360
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think he ever had much of a

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 1>cohesive plan. So they raided the capital and caused a

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 1>crackdown on themselves. It's beyond him. Now, yeah, it's beyond him.

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Now Hitler doesn't let it get beyond him. He realizes

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:27.279
<v Speaker 1>this is happening and that action needs to be taken now.

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>For a while he was able to kind of burn

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:32.640
<v Speaker 1>out this excess energy among his street fighters by having

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.879
<v Speaker 1>them go after journalists and newspaper offices, having them tear

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 1>down political propaganda and beat up left wing canvassers in

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the streets. So he has them assaulting his enemies and

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 1>part to just try to get off this excess energy

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 1>so they don't blow up and like tip their hand

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>too early. And of course all of the fighting and

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 1>violence in the street they're doing is very illegal under

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:55.240
<v Speaker 1>under German law at the time. But the Police President Powner,

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 1>who we've talked about earlier, ensured the Nazis faced few consequences.

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna quote from McGee's article on the Munich

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:04.800
<v Speaker 1>political police. At this point, the debt with which the

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Nazi movement owed Powner was real. As Police President Powner

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>extended a sheltering hand to protect the activities of the

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.320
<v Speaker 1>nascent Nazi movement. In doing so, he ensured its survival

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and gave it an opportunity for future growth. This passive image, however,

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.560
<v Speaker 1>does little to convey the full dimensions of Powner's commitment

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 1>to both the radical right in general and Nazis in particular.

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 1>As a key figure in Bavarian politics during the post

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 1>war period, Powner actively aided the Volcush movement and occupied

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:33.360
<v Speaker 1>a central position in its highest councils. And the Vocish

0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>movement is like all these ideas about the Aryan race

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:38.359
<v Speaker 1>and the German people that kind of feed into Nazism.

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean they had like that judges. Yeah, we'll be

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:47.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about the judges. Becomes a judge. He's becomes a judge.

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. These scholl was sitting in court with their

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:52.239
<v Speaker 1>legs all the way up the cross like yeah, yeah,

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.760
<v Speaker 1>go ahead. Yeah. And for an example of how biased

0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 1>he was, at one point during his time as the

0:50:57.640 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 1>chief of police in Munich, Powner is asked if he

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:03.120
<v Speaker 1>realizes the Nazis are murdering people in the streets of Bavaria,

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and he replies, yes, but far too few of them.

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:12.280
<v Speaker 1>So now, as an aside, unrelated to anything we're talking

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 1>about at present, we now know that at least twenty

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:16.799
<v Speaker 1>eight police officers were present for the storming of the

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>capital on January six. Um. I should note that in

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand eighteen, after a series of dueling protests in

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Portland between left and right wing demonstrators that ended with

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 1>police assaulting and hospitalizing a left wing activist, internal planning

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:33.240
<v Speaker 1>documents from the police revealed that they viewed the fascist

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:37.440
<v Speaker 1>activists as quote much more mainstream than the anti fascists.

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>There's a long through line, you know. Yeah, yeah, that

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:46.359
<v Speaker 1>mainstream has quite a subtext. It sure does, sure does. Probably. Yeah,

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 1>So by nine the thrill of beating the ship out

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of their enemies in the streets was wearing thin for

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the storm Abtai Lung. Now, roughly two thirds of the

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Nazi Party membership was under the age of thirty one

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.360
<v Speaker 1>at this point. These are young men who want to

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 1>drink and fight and revolt against the liberals and Jews

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 1>they see is ruining their country, right. Um, they look

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot like the Proud Boys. It's a group of

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 1>like macho, like, testosterone loaded young men who drink and

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 1>probably do a lot of like the Proud Boys do

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:18.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of cocaine. I'm guessing a lot of these

0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 1>guys are on blow too, you know, not uncommon in

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Germany in that period. So Hitler was super on board

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 1>with getting these guys into the fight do largely to

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 1>what he and the rest of the world had watched

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Benito Mussolini's Black Shirts do in Italy the year before,

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Because again, the March on Rome is the year before

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Hitler does his beer hall punch. Twenty three is the

0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 1>beer hall punch. And I'm gonna quote now from a

0:52:41.320 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>book called The Trial of Adolf Hitler by David King,

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and that he's this is Hitler talking at first. If

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 1>a German Mussolini is given to Germany, Hitler said to

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:52.320
<v Speaker 1>a journalist for London's Daily Mail on the eve of

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the push, people would fall down on their knees and

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 1>worship him more than Mussolini has ever been worshiped. This

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 1>journalist was unim rest In private, he dismissed Hitler as

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>another hot air merchant. But Hitler had in fact decided

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to follow in the Fascist footsteps and march on Berlin.

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.719
<v Speaker 1>The original plan had been to strike on Saturday night,

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>November ten. This was, after all, the weekend, which Hitler

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:17.879
<v Speaker 1>believed was the best time for a revolution. Authorities would

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 1>be away from their desks, police would be reduced to

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a minimal staff, and the lighter traffic would not impede

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 1>on the movement of his trucks and troops. So Hitler

0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 1>becomes convinced after seeing Mussolini that like, not only did

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Missolini have some great ideas, but this will work even

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>better in Germany, um, because we kind of have more

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 1>of an authoritarian culture. Italy when Mussolini took over, had

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a much longer democratic Germany a lot more authoritarianism. Hitler's like,

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 1>if I present myself the way Mussolini did, I'll be

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:49.160
<v Speaker 1>even more powerful. People will join me on the road

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to Berlin and we'll take over the whole country. Now

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, h Yeah he's not. I mean, he's

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 1>wrong in this instance, but not overall. There's an interesting

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:05.400
<v Speaker 1>light um even with that like Germans like at the

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:10.800
<v Speaker 1>time propensity towards like authoritarian like I still think even

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.879
<v Speaker 1>and and then their their assaulted is towards Catholicism. When

0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I think about their like Protestant movement um being so

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:24.719
<v Speaker 1>informed by sort of like reform Calvinist thought like this

0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:28.759
<v Speaker 1>this idea that like humans are so depraved at their

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:32.480
<v Speaker 1>core because of sin. You know what I'm saying like,

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:38.439
<v Speaker 1>you can't trust them to make good choices for themselves,

0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 1>So you need a strong man in the same way

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 1>that Jesus was your strong man. You know what I'm saying,

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:48.800
<v Speaker 1>to make to make these answers, to choose these for you,

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:51.160
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, you're full of sin nature, So why

0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:53.040
<v Speaker 1>would we trust what you would vote for yourselves. No,

0:54:53.160 --> 0:54:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you need a guy. You need a guy, a dude

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 1>in charge that can tell you what's better for you

0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:02.200
<v Speaker 1>because you can't us your own instincts. And and that

0:55:03.400 --> 0:55:07.440
<v Speaker 1>that theological twist to me, it's like it adds to

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the mythos of how somebody like a good, smooth talking

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Hitler could convince this nation who already got got authoritarian tendencies.

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Now you add in this like this like theological worldview

0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to it, it's just like it's just gonna work. And

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 1>it does. What else is gonna work? The products and

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 1>services that support this podcast? Oh yeah, that is going

0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to totally deprave my wallet. They are absolutely going to

0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 1>march on Berlin and overthrow the Reichstag. Yes, I I

0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 1>think that's been t public school from the beginning. We're back.

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:57.800
<v Speaker 1>So now Hitler knows he wants to march on Berlin.

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:00.319
<v Speaker 1>He wants to do a Mussolini but better. But he's

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.840
<v Speaker 1>he's not a dumb guy. He realizes that he alone

0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a big enough name to successfully push Bavaria.

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:09.439
<v Speaker 1>He's very popular within Munich and the Munich right. He's

0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:11.680
<v Speaker 1>not a national figure at this point, so he has

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to enlist the help of a national figure, and he

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>picked someone he had idolized, General Eric Ludendorff. Now, the

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:21.160
<v Speaker 1>old General had already tried to take over the government

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 1>once before, right after World War One, um, and had

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:26.240
<v Speaker 1>failed at that, but he hadn't really been punished because

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was the war hero. He's Ludendorf, he

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.719
<v Speaker 1>was the architect of the victory over Russia. Uh. He

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:34.840
<v Speaker 1>was just very beloved and he was a massive figure

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 1>for the right wing, revered and respected for his part.

0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:41.200
<v Speaker 1>The old Field Marshal had spent his declining years becoming

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.880
<v Speaker 1>an increasingly massive racist and conspiracy theorist and mostly pushing

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.759
<v Speaker 1>the stab in the back narrative, blaming the loss in

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>World War One on the Jews, all that stuff. You

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 1>could see him as like a General Flynn figure. Um.

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:57.280
<v Speaker 1>He's he's this very popular among the far right general

0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:00.920
<v Speaker 1>who shacks up with this far right political character. Now,

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the big difference is that General Flynn has been like

0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:07.120
<v Speaker 1>profoundly loyal to Donald Trump, and Ludendorff just kind of

0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:10.040
<v Speaker 1>saw Hitler as a vector for which he could, you know,

0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 1>push his kind of fringe right wing politics to get

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 1>more storm and Norman sports cough head ass, yeah a little, yeah,

0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's not that. Yeah, yeah, he's not like

0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 1>he's not like, um, loyal to Hitler, but he sees

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Hitler as a guy he can use, and Hitler sees

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Ludendorff as a guy he can use. I feel like

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:31.840
<v Speaker 1>in that that exact sentence is like was the dagger

0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:34.280
<v Speaker 1>for almost all the political parties, y'a thought I could

0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:37.920
<v Speaker 1>uses man like he wasn't. Yeah anyway, yeah, I mean.

0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And so Hitler goes to Ludendorf and is like, hey,

0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to overthrow the government. I want to be

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the dictator, and I want to have you be basically

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 1>like running the country with me. You'll be in charge

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of the army and together will bring Germany back to greatness.

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 1>And Ludendorf gives a soft yes, the kind of yes

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that could mean to know if like the police came

0:57:57.240 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>to his door and he could say like, but he's like, yeah,

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:01.880
<v Speaker 1>if do it, like, I'm on board. I'll take over

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the army if you win, you know, like that's the

0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of yes Ludendorf gives him um, but he's he's

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:10.520
<v Speaker 1>he's on board as long as he doesn't have to

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 1>stick his neck out too much. Is kind of like

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Ludendorff's attitude towards this. So the initial plan for the

0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:19.280
<v Speaker 1>pusch is November ten, but they wound up pushing it

0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 1>up by two days kind of at the last minute,

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the Thursday, November eight, because Gustav von Kar, who's basically's

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:28.240
<v Speaker 1>the General Commissar, he's basically like the governor of of

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of of Munich. Um. He's giving a speech at the

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Burger brow Keller beer Hall, which is one of Munich's

0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:37.080
<v Speaker 1>most prestigious places for people to drink heavily and do politics.

0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Burger Carl Burger, the Burger Browbeer beer Hall. Yeah, man,

0:58:42.320 --> 0:58:44.439
<v Speaker 1>we need to rename something like that because that's yeah,

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I would still around today, I think, yeah. Yeah. So

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 1>this is where the putsch actually starts. So Car is

0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:54.439
<v Speaker 1>in charge in Munich and he is he's been brought

0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:57.760
<v Speaker 1>to power and what some would call a military coup um.

0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:00.240
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of a soft coupe, but basically, after

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the liberals had let the left seize the city and revolt,

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the military made sure that a strongman like Car wound

0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 1>up in charge after the you know a year or

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<v Speaker 1>so later, and Carr had vowed during his campaign to

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.680
<v Speaker 1>turn the city into a cell of law and order.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, they keep saying that, keep saying that, which

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>just keep saying law and order, but just you don't

0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:28.560
<v Speaker 1>never happens never. Yeah yeah. So I'm gonna quote from

0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:33.200
<v Speaker 1>author David King describing cars politics here. He welcomed right

0:59:33.240 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 1>wing extremists to settle in the region, and many of

0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:39.040
<v Speaker 1>them in turn joined the paramilitary societies emerging in the

0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:42.320
<v Speaker 1>aftermath of the war and revolution. Car also organized many

0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 1>of these bands into a loose coalition called the Iron

0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 1>waterwaven or Citizens Militia, that would soon surpass three hundred

0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:51.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand men. Car would use this volunteer home guard and

0:59:52.040 --> 0:59:55.360
<v Speaker 1>everything from law enforcement to border patrol. They were necessary,

0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:59.840
<v Speaker 1>he said, like a fire brigade. So Car builds this

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<v Speaker 1>Citizens Militia basically a private army of himself for his

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<v Speaker 1>own to crack down on the left, and Germany at

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<v Speaker 1>this point is forbidden from having much of a real military.

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<v Speaker 1>They're captive about a hundred thousand soldiers in the reichs

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<v Speaker 1>Fair um. And this is a part of the Treaty

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<v Speaker 1>of Versailles. And France realizes that Car is raising up

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<v Speaker 1>thousands and thousands of private soldiers, and they complained that

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<v Speaker 1>he's building a new German army, and he's forced to

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<v Speaker 1>disband his militia. UM. Now this pisses off the far right,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Car caves and cancels his militia and

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<v Speaker 1>tells his guys to go home. Um. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them consider him like the fascist equivalent of a

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<v Speaker 1>rhino at this point, you know, a Republican and name

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<v Speaker 1>only like they're like a cars not really on the right.

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<v Speaker 1>He got cooked by the French, yea. UM, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>still very popular with the center right, and he's seen

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<v Speaker 1>as something of like a a resistance hero um among

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<v Speaker 1>like the center right. So he's you know, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>like popular on the fringe right, but he's popular on

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<v Speaker 1>the middle right. So in October. Now, another thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening at this period of time is. In August of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty three, Gustav Stresseman is elected Chancellor of Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and right before he comes to power, the Germans

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<v Speaker 1>had begged the Allies for a moratorium on reparations payments

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<v Speaker 1>because the German economy is collapsing in this period, they

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<v Speaker 1>just can't afford it. The French had refused to put

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<v Speaker 1>in a moratorium on payments, and then in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get money out of Germany that Germany wasn't sending, they

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<v Speaker 1>invaded and occupied the Ruhr, which is Germany's industrial heartland.

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<v Speaker 1>So Germany defaults on their payments after, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before they invade the rule and like the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the French invade pisses off all of Germany and particularly

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<v Speaker 1>the German right wing. Yeah so is this this again? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a little little little human in his story here

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<v Speaker 1>is like, yeah, so you guys a new chancellor because

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<v Speaker 1>they had to write a whole new constitution, the Roho

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<v Speaker 1>new Constitution, got a new chancellor. They gotta payback Audisty

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<v Speaker 1>they destroyed for his war. They already feel salty about that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like damn, I gotta I gotta clean it. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>pay for artists, you know what I'm saying. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they like, literally, we're broke, Like God, damn it, we're broke,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So then and then for

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<v Speaker 1>France to be like, oh, you're gonna give me my

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<v Speaker 1>money and they're like what money, Well, they don't have anything.

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<v Speaker 1>What money? We don't have it. Yeah, we starve to

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<v Speaker 1>death on turnips last winter, like we have nothing, like

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<v Speaker 1>you saw it. We lost. Damn man, we lost, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we are like we got it. Yeah. And this

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot of the anger at the Treaty of

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<v Speaker 1>Versailles and the way the French are behaving gets pushed

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<v Speaker 1>onto the German liberals, who like because their internationalists kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like try to engage with the French and g

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<v Speaker 1>stop stress him and gets elected and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first things he does is he orders the end of

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<v Speaker 1>a general strike against the French and the RU and

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<v Speaker 1>he starts resuming reparations payments, and this enrages the right

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<v Speaker 1>wing and so and stress him and knows it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to so he has the President of the Reich declare

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<v Speaker 1>an emergency. The Bavarian government gets pissed by this because

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<v Speaker 1>they hate Stressman. They're all very conservative, he's a liberal,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, basically, this guy has been cucked by

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<v Speaker 1>the French, and they declare Bavaria to close its own

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<v Speaker 1>state of emergency. Now, the decision to do that was

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<v Speaker 1>made by the Triumvirate that ruled Bavaria, which consisted of

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<v Speaker 1>von Kar General von Lasso, who's in charge of the

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<v Speaker 1>army in Bavaria, and the commander of the state police,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Ciser I think. Now, this triumvirate had

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<v Speaker 1>publicly refused a number of orders from Berlin as a

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<v Speaker 1>show of protest and his red meat to their right

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<v Speaker 1>wing base. So basically it's like a state in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States refusing orders from the federal government because it's

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<v Speaker 1>against what their political base wants. Um. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>mostly for show, because yeah, this is mostly for show

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<v Speaker 1>um because like the federal government has the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>deny funds to Bavaria, right, which kind of fox them over.

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<v Speaker 1>And so by early November, the Triumvirate is losing heart

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<v Speaker 1>because they wanted to get red meat to their base

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<v Speaker 1>and like improve their own personal popularity by saying fuck

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<v Speaker 1>you to the central government. But they did want to

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<v Speaker 1>pay consequences, so they're starting to cave by November, but

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<v Speaker 1>most voters don't know that. And so when von Kar

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<v Speaker 1>takes the stage at the burger Brow beer Hall on

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<v Speaker 1>November eight, the really like a lot of people show

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<v Speaker 1>up because they think he's about to announce that Bavaria

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<v Speaker 1>is seceding from Germany. Um. Now, Hitler knows that's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. He knows that's very unlikely because Hitler sees

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<v Speaker 1>von Kar is basically a moderate. But he also knows

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<v Speaker 1>that a huge crowd, including all of the people running Bavaria,

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be in the beer hall that night,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes it a great place to occupy with armed men.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going to do a push, if you're pushing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's where you want to put this where

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<v Speaker 1>you push the put. Yeah, this is the beer hall.

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<v Speaker 1>The burger Brow beer Hall is the equivalent of the

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<v Speaker 1>capital on January six. Here, it's like where all these

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<v Speaker 1>elected leaders are. If you want to actually capture these people,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where you do it. Um. So he gets

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<v Speaker 1>together his stormtrooper leaders and his key advisors and they

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<v Speaker 1>work with their police insider, who's a fellow named Frick.

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<v Speaker 1>Because a lot of cops are Nazis. I'm not to

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<v Speaker 1>get a put like a timeline on that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cops. Let's just for a little okay, cool, so

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<v Speaker 1>frick this cop ensures that the police presence outside the

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<v Speaker 1>beer hall is minimal. Like all of the guys running

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<v Speaker 1>Bavaria are there, but they don't have very many cops

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<v Speaker 1>protecting them, and that's by design to make it easier

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<v Speaker 1>for the storm trippers. So Hitler sets Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that has never happened again, yea. So Hitler's

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<v Speaker 1>other lackeys, the guys who aren't like fighters, get set

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<v Speaker 1>to the organizing propaganda. One man was set was like

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<v Speaker 1>put to the job of organizing the distribution of posters

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<v Speaker 1>and newspapers announcing the Nazi overthrow of the government. Hitler's

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<v Speaker 1>half American friend, a guy named Hunt Stengele that are

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<v Speaker 1>known as Putsy, who's like a Harvard graduate um was

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of making stir. The foreign press was there

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<v Speaker 1>without knowing why they were there, because Puts a charmer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a he's a like an aristocrat guy. He's good

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<v Speaker 1>at talking to people. He's good talking to like American media,

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<v Speaker 1>so like the New York Times has a guy there

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<v Speaker 1>on this night. Now, Hitler and his entourage show up

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<v Speaker 1>at the beer hole uh that night, like as thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of people are gathered up outside to get in to

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<v Speaker 1>watch von Kar speak, and Hitler's immediately gets out of

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<v Speaker 1>his I think it's a Mercedes, and he's immediately greeted

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<v Speaker 1>by a crowd of three thousand people outside the hall.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Hitler is very popular in with the right in Munich,

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<v Speaker 1>so he gets mobbed by this crowd who wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know if, like he knew what von Kar was going

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<v Speaker 1>to speak about, is you know, are we going to succeed?

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening? And Hitler's like, I'm just a guest. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here like the rest of you. And he goes inside

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<v Speaker 1>to get a beer, and he doesn't get a beer

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<v Speaker 1>because he wants to drink it. Hitler's not really a drinker.

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<v Speaker 1>Every now and then he'll he'll like down like um,

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<v Speaker 1>some champagne or something. He's not much of a drinker.

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<v Speaker 1>He has the beer because Garing has warned him like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to try to overthrow the government. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>want people to realize we're onto something early. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in a beer hole in Munich with a beer.

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<v Speaker 1>No one will suspect that you're planning to break the

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<v Speaker 1>law because it's Munich. Um. So Hitler gets a beer

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like kind of nurse sing it um, and

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<v Speaker 1>Car takes the podium. Now, car speech is boring and pointless,

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<v Speaker 1>in a big bummer to everybody. He just starts like

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<v Speaker 1>he's not succeeding. He starts a standard harangue about the

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<v Speaker 1>evils of Marxism, about how Munich was going to fight

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<v Speaker 1>the contagion and quintessential evil of socialism. Pretty normal right

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<v Speaker 1>wing stuff. Um. And Hitler is reported to have asked

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<v Speaker 1>his men during cars speech, does anyone understand what he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? Like? What the fund is this guy doing

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<v Speaker 1>up there? Started trolling him. Yeah, well this is going

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<v Speaker 1>on while you know, Hitler and his kind of inner

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<v Speaker 1>circle or watching Car speak, and this beer halls got

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of people in it. Hitler's stormtroopers are assembling nearby.

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<v Speaker 1>Now twenty six year old Cigar a dealer named Josef

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<v Speaker 1>was the quartermaster, and so he basically like as the

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<v Speaker 1>troops assembled, he starts handing out rifles and machine guns

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<v Speaker 1>and grenades to several dozen of the Nazi Party's best fighters,

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<v Speaker 1>the men of Stostrip Hitler or the Hitler Assault Squad. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys wore a gray military a uniform with a

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<v Speaker 1>silver Death's Head badge on their caps. The star Strup

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<v Speaker 1>would wind up evolving into the shoot Staffle, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the infamous SS right, Like, that's the the guys who,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things, man the concentration camps. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>they're Hitler street fighters, um, and are responsible for protecting

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<v Speaker 1>him and stuff. And these are the guys he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to use to be the the armed fist of his push. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>before the putch, Hitler had given his fighters a few

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<v Speaker 1>suggestions for how to behave. He had told them cruelty impresses,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't leave a fight unless you're being carried out dead. God,

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<v Speaker 1>these are disorders screen light. Yeah, look you the only

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<v Speaker 1>the only way you leave is in a bagh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are sucking. Um. You know, he's a gangster.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a gangster regime. A lot of people at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, actually, like a lot of American newspaperman in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenties and thirties will say this about the Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>These people are working gangsters. Yeah. Now, a little before

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<v Speaker 1>eight thirty pm, a hundred stormtroopers swarmed the premises of

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<v Speaker 1>the Burger Brow and entered the beer hall, shouting Heil

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler and waving guns. Herman Gering, who led the assault team,

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<v Speaker 1>told the police officers outside that the government was being overthrown.

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<v Speaker 1>The dozen or so cops there were easily overpowered. Garing

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<v Speaker 1>and his men secured the building, and as he entered,

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<v Speaker 1>he called for quiet. Now everybody's drunk at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>so they don't get quiet. So he has to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>into the roof with his handgun. Then he like basically

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<v Speaker 1>hands things over to Hitler, who pulls off his trench

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<v Speaker 1>coat to reveal a black suit with two iron crosses

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<v Speaker 1>pinned to his lapel. And I'm gonna quote next from

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<v Speaker 1>a rite up by Douglas oh Linder. He jumped up

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<v Speaker 1>on a table, pulled out a pistol, and fired two

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<v Speaker 1>shots into the ceilings. The second guy who's fired into

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<v Speaker 1>the ceiling that night, it keeps happening. It happened several

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<v Speaker 1>more drinking guys and fired two shots into the ceiling. Silence,

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<v Speaker 1>he yelled. Then Hitler and several supporters pushed their way

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<v Speaker 1>to the front of the room and confronted speaker Car

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<v Speaker 1>at the podium. Stormtroopers pointed a machine gun at the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>Many who were in the audience leader said that they

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<v Speaker 1>suspected they were about to witness an assassination. Hitler shouted

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<v Speaker 1>to the crowd out, the national revolution has begun. Six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred armed men are occupying this hall. No one may leave.

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<v Speaker 1>The governments of Bavaria and in Berlin have been overthrown.

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<v Speaker 1>Army barracks and police headquarters are now under the control

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<v Speaker 1>of this party. None of this was true, but Hitler

1:10:14.040 --> 1:10:16.799
<v Speaker 1>hoped and suspected that it would be soon enough. Hitler

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<v Speaker 1>then told car and two other important political leaders, General

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<v Speaker 1>von Lasso and Colonel von Seiser, that they should join

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<v Speaker 1>him in a side room for a conversation about Bavaria's future.

1:10:25.640 --> 1:10:28.479
<v Speaker 1>After the men leave, Garing told the crowd, you all

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<v Speaker 1>have your beer, keep drinking. You have nothing to worry about.

1:10:32.080 --> 1:10:34.679
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be fine. It's just a punch. Chill out, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody has to die. Man, keep drinking. Just that's it. Yeah,

1:10:40.240 --> 1:10:43.719
<v Speaker 1>we're in charge where the Nazis. It's fine, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So Hitler's goal was to convince the triumvirate to back

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<v Speaker 1>his plan. He wanted Bavaria's army units and police on

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<v Speaker 1>his side. He doesn't want to fight these guys. His

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<v Speaker 1>plan is to do a grander version of what Mussolini

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<v Speaker 1>had done and start marching with Ten's basically all of

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<v Speaker 1>the right wingers in the military of Bavaria and start

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<v Speaker 1>marching up to Berlin. And he imagines thousands of people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to join him on the way, and once

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<v Speaker 1>they reach Berlin, they're going to overthrow the liberal government

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<v Speaker 1>easily in institute of fascist state run by Hitler and Ludendorff.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course for that to happen, they can't get

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<v Speaker 1>bogged down fighting the Bavarian state right now. Seisser, loss

1:11:21.160 --> 1:11:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Out and car were all pretty close to being fascists themselves.

1:11:25.360 --> 1:11:28.560
<v Speaker 1>But these guys are all state loyal right, they're not revolutionaries.

1:11:28.560 --> 1:11:30.800
<v Speaker 1>They don't want to overthrow the government. They want the

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<v Speaker 1>government to change into a more right wing government. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're not like bomb throwers like Hitler is um. So

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to follow his weird little Nazi guy

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<v Speaker 1>in open rebellion against the state. Now, Hitler tried to

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<v Speaker 1>smooth talk them. He promised them cushy positions in the

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<v Speaker 1>new regime. Car is a monarchist and Hitler tells him like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna bring back the King of Bavaria and you

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<v Speaker 1>can be his envoy to the government. Isn't that like

1:11:54.000 --> 1:12:01.920
<v Speaker 1>your dream? Um? Right? Yeah? So they resist um Car

1:12:02.040 --> 1:12:04.280
<v Speaker 1>and Lasso and everyone like they're not they're not on

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<v Speaker 1>board with this, And before very long, Hitler did what

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler's do and he starts threatening to murder them at gunpoint. Now, Ludendorff,

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<v Speaker 1>who like when the occupation of the beer Hall starts,

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<v Speaker 1>Ludendorff like some Nazis show up at his house and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, hey, you know that thing you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to, we're doing it. Ludendorff like shows up and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, I guess we'll see if this works.

1:12:23.600 --> 1:12:26.320
<v Speaker 1>And he's kind of horrified by Hitler's behavior because Ludendorff

1:12:26.439 --> 1:12:30.519
<v Speaker 1>is a he's like a classic imperial German manners dude, Right,

1:12:30.560 --> 1:12:33.639
<v Speaker 1>there are ways in which you, especially these people are nobles.

1:12:34.600 --> 1:12:37.040
<v Speaker 1>You don't you don't point a gun in their face, right,

1:12:37.200 --> 1:12:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Like that's very ghost and he's not. He doesn't like

1:12:40.600 --> 1:12:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Hitler in a lot of ways because Hitler's a fucking,

1:12:43.080 --> 1:12:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of a peon to him, but he's not,

1:12:48.280 --> 1:12:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's he's he's gotten acclimatized to being in

1:12:51.040 --> 1:12:55.439
<v Speaker 1>high society. Hitler is very much crude, um damn and

1:12:55.520 --> 1:12:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Ludendorff is kind of like horrified by this, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's still on board with the Jim Rule plan because

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to take over the government and institute right

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<v Speaker 1>wing military dictatorship. And eventually, now that once Ludendorf shows

1:13:07.520 --> 1:13:11.400
<v Speaker 1>up to these guys, car And and Lasso and Sisser

1:13:11.840 --> 1:13:14.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of agree to help the putsch and agree to

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<v Speaker 1>like basically put the powers of the Bavarian state behind

1:13:18.800 --> 1:13:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Hitler's push attempt. And they didn't really mean it, but

1:13:22.400 --> 1:13:24.280
<v Speaker 1>a guy was threatening to murder them, so they're like

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<v Speaker 1>all right, yeah, yeah. Now, while this was happening, different

1:13:31.320 --> 1:13:34.080
<v Speaker 1>armed groups of Nazis were out capturing key parts of

1:13:34.120 --> 1:13:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the city. The Bavarian War Ministry was taken by Ernst

1:13:37.439 --> 1:13:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Rome and his men, including young Heinrich Himler, and they

1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:43.920
<v Speaker 1>proceeded to fortify it. Another group of four hundred stormtroopers

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<v Speaker 1>was sent to take guns and equipment from the army

1:13:46.200 --> 1:13:48.840
<v Speaker 1>engineer barracks. Now this is a very fun story because

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<v Speaker 1>these Nazis all show up and the captain on duty

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<v Speaker 1>who's like in charge of handing out guns and stuff.

1:13:53.880 --> 1:13:56.200
<v Speaker 1>They're like, hey, we're here to do maneuvers. Can we

1:13:56.360 --> 1:14:00.160
<v Speaker 1>borrow the guns? Um? And the captain realizes something is

1:14:00.280 --> 1:14:03.000
<v Speaker 1>very fishy, and it's like, you can use the guns,

1:14:03.040 --> 1:14:04.720
<v Speaker 1>but you can't go on maneuvers outside. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>show up inside and like the big gymnasium and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'll hand you the guns there and you can do

1:14:08.800 --> 1:14:12.160
<v Speaker 1>your maneuvers inside. And so all four hundred Nazis go

1:14:12.280 --> 1:14:15.360
<v Speaker 1>into the gymnasium and he locks it from the outside. Brilliant.

1:14:20.560 --> 1:14:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah here, he bro yeah, yeah, I got you us

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<v Speaker 1>right here there, Yeah, right inside the door. I got you.

1:14:28.560 --> 1:14:30.839
<v Speaker 1>This guy's name should be remembered. His name is Captain

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar Canceler, and he ruled. He he saves the German

1:14:34.000 --> 1:14:36.880
<v Speaker 1>state that night. He definitely stays at least for a

1:14:37.000 --> 1:14:38.920
<v Speaker 1>little while. You know, it didn't last, but he did

1:14:39.000 --> 1:14:41.759
<v Speaker 1>his bit um. So the Nazis who were locked inside

1:14:41.800 --> 1:14:44.040
<v Speaker 1>couldn't call Hitler to let him know they had the guns.

1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:46.160
<v Speaker 1>And we're ready to take part in the Putsch and

1:14:46.280 --> 1:14:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Hitler was waiting for that call. Right, He's got teams

1:14:48.520 --> 1:14:51.439
<v Speaker 1>going out and seizing places in the city, and he realizes, like,

1:14:51.479 --> 1:14:53.960
<v Speaker 1>these dudes haven't called in from the barracks yet, Right,

1:14:54.120 --> 1:14:56.360
<v Speaker 1>something must be wrong. And this was a key part

1:14:56.400 --> 1:14:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of his intricate plan. Uh and he knew. So this

1:14:59.760 --> 1:15:02.760
<v Speaker 1>kind put Hitler in a bind. Um. He knew that

1:15:03.120 --> 1:15:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the Triumvirate were not enthusiastic about this plan, and if

1:15:06.080 --> 1:15:08.240
<v Speaker 1>if he was going to keep them enthusiastic and like

1:15:08.400 --> 1:15:11.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of forced them to be enthusiastic his men, and

1:15:11.360 --> 1:15:13.040
<v Speaker 1>we're going to have to be in total control of

1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:15.639
<v Speaker 1>the city. Right if he could, if he could really

1:15:15.760 --> 1:15:18.200
<v Speaker 1>be in charge in Munich, they weren't going to fight him.

1:15:18.240 --> 1:15:20.160
<v Speaker 1>They give the army the orders to go along with it,

1:15:20.240 --> 1:15:22.800
<v Speaker 1>right because they don't want to die. But he's got

1:15:22.880 --> 1:15:26.559
<v Speaker 1>to actually be in charge. And making his first critical mistake,

1:15:26.800 --> 1:15:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Hitler desize it's necessary for him to leave the Burger

1:15:29.479 --> 1:15:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Brow beer hall late that night to see what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on at the Engineer barracks, and he leaves Ludendorff alone

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<v Speaker 1>with the Triumvirate. This is a bad call. Oh, So

1:15:39.840 --> 1:15:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Hitler and his Nazis know these guys are captives. He

1:15:42.960 --> 1:15:45.160
<v Speaker 1>knows that he's holding them against their will. He knows

1:15:45.200 --> 1:15:48.280
<v Speaker 1>that if they're agreeing, it's they're not really that on

1:15:48.439 --> 1:15:52.880
<v Speaker 1>board with the idea. Ludendorff again is kind of not

1:15:53.080 --> 1:15:55.760
<v Speaker 1>being told the entire truth about what's happening, and he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks these guys are fellow German patriots, right um. And

1:15:59.400 --> 1:16:01.680
<v Speaker 1>he also thought they looked tired, you know, it's been

1:16:01.720 --> 1:16:03.479
<v Speaker 1>a long night. And he's like, do you guys want

1:16:03.520 --> 1:16:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to go home and like take a nap or something,

1:16:05.720 --> 1:16:07.360
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, yeah, we would like to go home,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's likely, bro, yeah, man, you guys are German officers. I,

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<v Speaker 1>as a German officer, know that no German officer would

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<v Speaker 1>ever lie. Give me your word of honor that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back to help us finish the coup tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back. What's time we'll be yeah, they say,

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<v Speaker 1>of course we'll come back, of course, Bro. What's what's

1:16:25.040 --> 1:16:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I like, tan, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll see you in

1:16:29.160 --> 1:16:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the morning. Yeah. So some of the Nazis there are

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<v Speaker 1>Nazis in the room too, and they see Ludendorf doing this,

1:16:34.320 --> 1:16:37.200
<v Speaker 1>They're like dude, they're not gonna come back. And Ludendorff

1:16:37.280 --> 1:16:40.839
<v Speaker 1>gets pissed at them and he's like, I forbid anyone

1:16:40.960 --> 1:16:44.280
<v Speaker 1>in this room from doubting the word of a German officer.

1:16:44.439 --> 1:16:51.479
<v Speaker 1>How dare you? YEA? When I was a kid, uh,

1:16:52.000 --> 1:16:55.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, the like the clue you was about to

1:16:55.800 --> 1:16:59.360
<v Speaker 1>get knocked out but robbed by somebody like hey, hey, hey, hey,

1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:02.639
<v Speaker 1>your phone right quick? Let me use your phone? Yeah,

1:17:03.080 --> 1:17:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Well you would look and be like, don't get that

1:17:05.960 --> 1:17:08.800
<v Speaker 1>man your phone. Do not walk over there and get

1:17:08.840 --> 1:17:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that mean, what are you talking my many? You just

1:17:09.960 --> 1:17:12.840
<v Speaker 1>want to borrow my phone. Don't give him your phone?

1:17:14.160 --> 1:17:16.760
<v Speaker 1>What do you do? You keep walking? Bro? Like, hey, hey, man,

1:17:16.840 --> 1:17:19.200
<v Speaker 1>come on, let me just use it right quick? No,

1:17:19.720 --> 1:17:23.160
<v Speaker 1>man like like you know what do you what do you?

1:17:23.240 --> 1:17:24.920
<v Speaker 1>What do you? What are you doing? What are you doing? Well?

1:17:25.040 --> 1:17:28.519
<v Speaker 1>There it is now you're now you're sleeping. Hey, just

1:17:28.600 --> 1:17:30.760
<v Speaker 1>put you to sleep and your stare foot The guy

1:17:30.840 --> 1:17:33.519
<v Speaker 1>just stole your shoes. I told you not to. Yeah,

1:17:33.800 --> 1:17:36.000
<v Speaker 1>so that that's totally funny. Like the guys in room

1:17:36.120 --> 1:17:38.760
<v Speaker 1>saying yeah. The boss is like, yeah, let him go

1:17:38.840 --> 1:17:40.320
<v Speaker 1>take a nap, and the dudes are like, hey, I

1:17:40.360 --> 1:17:42.360
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's a good idea. Man, you really think

1:17:42.400 --> 1:17:44.280
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna come back, Like, I don't think they're gonna

1:17:44.320 --> 1:17:47.120
<v Speaker 1>come back. Hey boss, maybe you shouldn't let them leave

1:17:48.320 --> 1:17:52.120
<v Speaker 1>you kind of seeing this why Ludendorff didn't win the war, right, Yeah? Yeah,

1:17:52.640 --> 1:17:57.160
<v Speaker 1>like this good idea, coach, Yeah, hey boss, this this

1:17:57.320 --> 1:18:00.599
<v Speaker 1>might not be the plan. So that is where we're

1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:05.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna leave it in part one. General Ludendorff the genius

1:18:05.280 --> 1:18:08.880
<v Speaker 1>of German military tactics. It's just let everyone go that

1:18:09.000 --> 1:18:13.719
<v Speaker 1>he needs in order to make Germans don't lie, German

1:18:13.800 --> 1:18:18.200
<v Speaker 1>officers don't lie. Um, I swear to you, I'm coming back.

1:18:18.200 --> 1:18:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll bring back Yeah, absolutely tons of coffee. We're gonna

1:18:20.800 --> 1:18:23.400
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna push the hell out of this state. Give

1:18:23.439 --> 1:18:27.479
<v Speaker 1>me a minute, Yeah, let me get a nap um prop.

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