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Speaker 1: Joining us now is Jacob carriong. He's a student at UCF,

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Speaker 1: undefeated UCF, I might add, and a future firefighter, even

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Speaker 1: though I just learned that he was actually doing psychology before,

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Speaker 1: so you already know that I like him. He has

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Speaker 1: been a Marlins fan for fourteen years and is joining

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Speaker 1: us a chat about number one, where the Marlins farm

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Speaker 1: system currently stands, which I love as a conversation. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about is san Diez, maybe some Lewis

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Speaker 1: at the potential twenty twenty opening day lineup, because really

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Speaker 1: next year is when the excitement really starts kicking. So

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what he has in the framework there. Jacob,

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Speaker 1: Before we start, you know, I love the fish Army account.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and let people know where they could find

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Speaker 1: that account, because I think it's something that as Marlins

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Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely. The handle is at fish Army three or five,

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Speaker 2: and it's run by two of us me myself, Jacob

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Speaker 2: and one of my best friends Shane. We just one

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Speaker 2: day decided, hey, why don't we because we already tweeted

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Speaker 2: so much about the Marlins on our personal accounts, so

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Speaker 2: we were like, why not just make our own account

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Speaker 2: and do just focus on that. So that's what we did,

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Speaker 2: and it's so much fun. And the Marlins Twitter community

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Speaker 2: is very fun, very awesome group of guys and gals, very.

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Speaker 1: Diverse interacting with Yeah, absolutely awesome, awesome, A right, So

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Speaker 1: make sure you go follow him. My promise to you.

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Speaker 1: It's not empty endorsement. I love when he talks baseball.

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Speaker 1: It's why he's on the podcast right now. It's not

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Speaker 1: just because whether I agree or disagree with whatever the

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Speaker 1: listening for that purpose, make sure you follow that account,

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Speaker 1: all right, Jacob. So before we get into the real, good,

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Speaker 1: juicy stuff, I always want individuals to know who they're

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Speaker 1: listening to. So go ahead and take some time and

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Speaker 1: let us know how you became a Marlins fan, a

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Well. First off, I'm twenty one years old, so

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Speaker 2: I wasn't there from the beginning in ninety three, but

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Speaker 2: So I saw the likes of Mike Lowle, Luis Castillo, Beckett,

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Speaker 2: And never forget my first time going to the Mars

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Speaker 2: I remember because I don't know how much the wars were.

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't remember. What I remember is more just

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Speaker 2: I think this is the most excited I've been as

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because people from outside of the

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Speaker 1: And they don't believe it, right, because they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know how great Archbishop McCarthy's Yeah, I know how

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to get right to the three things

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. So before I get started into this, I'm going

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Speaker 1: I think we are definitely more balanced than we were,

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Speaker 1: But in Miami, I simply have more faith in the

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Speaker 3: But now the two two basketball swung on and hammered.

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Speaker 1: routine in center field, the angle to the balls that

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Speaker 1: he was taking, balls that were coming on the ground.

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Speaker 1: You could start seeing the frustration. And I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I was at the game last night, Saturday night, and

431
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Speaker 1: you're looking at him, and as soon as he gets

432
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Speaker 1: two strikes, it's like, well, that's it. I'm I don't

433
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Speaker 1: I don't know that the wheels turned quickly enough, and

434
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Speaker 1: maybe we have to go back a little bit and

435
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Speaker 1: start turning him that quickly at all. It has to

436
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Speaker 1: get to the point of seaball hit ball, which is

437
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Speaker 1: what he started doing going the other way when he

438
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Speaker 1: had that approach. Those were the little things that you

439
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Speaker 1: mentioned that you need to pick up on.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he goes two for four, he goes one for four,

442
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Speaker 1: and back to back games and it's like, all right, whatever,

443
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Speaker 1: he had three singles. No, the fact that he had

444
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Speaker 1: three singles that went opposite way is important, especially because

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Speaker 1: two of them, yeah, exactly, especially because two of them

446
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: were on two strikes, Like you're starting to see a

447
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: change in approach, and then that other part of it.

448
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Speaker 1: Look yesterday he hit a ball to deep left center

449
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,479
Speaker 1: that was just on a beautifully ran angle by endurance.

450
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Speaker 1: The RT I believe was out there and he caught it.

451
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Speaker 1: He hit another one that was a line drive. He's

452
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Speaker 1: had some tough luck. The problem is he can't let

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Speaker 1: that tough luck change his approach. Which before I get

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Speaker 1: you back on with our third point, because I want

455
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Speaker 1: to move on to the twenty twenty twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: I want to say something very quickly about Isan Diaz

457
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Speaker 1: for those that say, like you said, almost that PTSD

458
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Speaker 1: almost learned processing of Oh man, here's a buss who's

459
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Speaker 1: struggling to come up. Two things. The first one, Isan

460
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Speaker 1: Diaz has always had a learning curve. Every single promotion

461
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Speaker 1: in his career. Go look at his numbers. He gets

462
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Speaker 1: promoted to double A, he struggles. He then in a

463
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Speaker 1: month or two months or in the second year if

464
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Speaker 1: he repeats it dominates double A. He gets promoted to

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Speaker 1: triple A, he struggles two months a month or when

466
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Speaker 1: he repeats it dominates triple A. He has a learning

467
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Speaker 1: curve which is, you know, not exactly what everyone wants

468
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Speaker 1: to see, but it teaches you that he overcomes. Right,

469
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Speaker 1: He's always going to be one of the most people

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Speaker 1: at the level, but he makes the adjustment. So that's

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Speaker 1: the first thing. There's a pattern here of him struggling

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Speaker 1: out of the gate and then doing very well. The

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Speaker 1: second thing is for those that say, oh no, here's

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Speaker 1: Lewis Brinston again, absolutely not. The played appearances are completely different.

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Speaker 1: Eason Diaz is going deep into counts Eastondiaz is still

476
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Speaker 1: making solid contact. Easondias has drawn a walk like I mean,

477
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Speaker 1: you know, things like that which we did not see

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Speaker 1: with Lewis the first time that he got promoted. We're

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Speaker 1: seeing with Esan right off of the bats. So for

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Speaker 1: those of you that panicked a bit, you know, I

481
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Speaker 1: would say, breathe, okay, I would say that September and August,

482
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Speaker 1: August and September of year two of a rebuilds is

483
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Speaker 1: the time for you. Sunda Is to come up and

484
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Speaker 1: get his strikeouts and get his shortcomings out of the way.

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Speaker 1: Let him adjust' he's already shown you good at bat

486
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Speaker 1: and good approach. He is going to be okay, and

487
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Speaker 1: we'll see what Lewis can do, what adjustments he could

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Speaker 1: make moving forward, because I believe that he just has

489
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Speaker 1: too many tools for this to be something about his

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Speaker 1: baseball skills. This is the mental part of the game.

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Speaker 1: This is the approach a part of the game. There's

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Speaker 1: too much talent there for him to not be able

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Speaker 1: to generalize some of the success in the minor leagues

494
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Speaker 1: to the major leagues. Now, will he be in the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty one core. I'm going to leave that

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Speaker 1: up to you. The third thing that I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about with you before we head out and enjoy

498
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Speaker 1: our Sundays is the twenty twenty twenty twenty one potential

499
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Speaker 1: opening a lineup, right, you said you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about that. I always love having this conversation because I'd

501
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Speaker 1: like to see where a person's mindset is at and

502
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Speaker 1: what they expect. So you you tell me what do

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Speaker 1: you think the future lineup and and kind of roster

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Speaker 1: this team looks like.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and let me be perfectly honest with you. Last night,

506
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Speaker 2: my plan was to do the twenty twenty one lineup,

507
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Speaker 2: but I got so caught up in that game. I

508
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Speaker 2: don't think I kind of missed. I kind of missed

509
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Speaker 2: that whole part. But I got the twenty twenty lineup.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it for you. My lineup is youth, youth, youth, youth.

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Speaker 2: So I got batting lead off in centerfield, Monte Harrison.

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Speaker 2: I know this might be a surprise to some people,

513
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Speaker 2: but since he just got injured, I personally think I

514
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Speaker 2: don't think he needs to repeat your polity. To be

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Speaker 2: honest with you, I think if he has a solid

516
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Speaker 2: spring next next year, I think he deserves an opening

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Speaker 2: day invitation, like an opening day nod, because I think

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Speaker 2: he's earned it, and I I personally I might be

519
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Speaker 2: a little impatient. I just want to see him in

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Speaker 2: center field already and Marlin's right, and then batting behind

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Speaker 2: him second base. You know it, love it. You know

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Speaker 2: I gotta keep him in there, and then batting third

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Speaker 2: process Daddy Brian Anderson at third base, not at right field.

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Speaker 2: At third base, I got Garrett Yeah, batting four. I

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Speaker 2: got Garrett Cooper. Some struggles right now, but I think

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Speaker 2: I think he's too good of a hitter to not

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Speaker 2: make some adjustments and you know, finish out the season

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Speaker 2: strong and start off next year strong if you can

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Speaker 2: stay healthy. Then batting fifth, I got hit in Harold

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Speaker 2: Harold rmire is in left field. Then batting sixth, I

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Speaker 2: might get some heat on this. Lewis right field, Lewis

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Speaker 2: person and right field. Like I listen, he's a hometown kid.

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Speaker 2: And I see so much of him in my so

534
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Speaker 2: much of myself and him because when I was playing,

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Speaker 2: I was very I was very weak in the mental game.

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Speaker 2: Also going up to the play, I know exactly what

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Speaker 2: he's probably going through his head. Obviously he probably might

538
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Speaker 2: be a little different than mine because he's playing in

539
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Speaker 2: the big leagues, but I know the struggles and I

540
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Speaker 2: really want to see him succeed. And I'm gonna speak

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Speaker 2: it into existence absolutely. Batting batting seventh, mcgaal vera Haas

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Speaker 2: you know, he's he's my team captain's he is the

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Speaker 2: captain of this team. He's not he's not an old player,

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Speaker 2: Like how old is he? Like twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Twenty, he's in his late twenties. I think twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's no young, young youngling right now. But he's

547
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Speaker 2: no old man either, So I still have him at

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Speaker 2: shortstop in twenty twenty, and I would, I honestly would

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Speaker 2: name him official captain. He'll actually be.

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Speaker 1: He'll be He'll be thirty opening day next year. But still, yeah,

551
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Speaker 1: he's he's here on his last year of his contract.

552
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Speaker 1: Maybe they even extend to make a utility guy. But

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think he's opening day shortstop.

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Speaker 2: Yep, and then batting eighth. Jorgel Farro catching what can

555
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Speaker 2: be said about far although he had poled off tremendously

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Speaker 2: in the last few weeks. I think he got a

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Speaker 2: couple of hits though the other day, which is nice

558
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Speaker 2: to see. He's another guy. He's going to swing and miss,

559
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Speaker 2: He's going to strike out. That's just going to be

560
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Speaker 2: part of his game. But if he can, if he

561
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Speaker 2: can pump up his home run numbers that I know

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Speaker 2: he's capable of, because I have him as a at

563
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Speaker 2: least a twenty homer guy like that's at least for

564
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Speaker 2: all his strikeouts, though, but I was kind of disappointed

565
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Speaker 2: in his power numbers this year. You know, he was

566
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Speaker 2: very streaky. He's been very streaky this year. He'll go

567
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Speaker 2: on a hot streak. And then what will happen is

568
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: he'll get injured or he'll tweak something, he'll sit out

569
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Speaker 2: for a few games. And now his mojo's gone. Now

570
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Speaker 2: he's trying to He's been fighting an uphill battle almost

571
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Speaker 2: this whole year, and that's been kind of hard, tough

572
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Speaker 2: to see for him. But I hope next year is

573
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Speaker 2: a more healthy year, you know, not as many injuries,

574
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Speaker 2: not as many you know, you know, struggles for him.

575
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Speaker 2: I think he'll be better next year, you know, one year,

576
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Speaker 2: more year under his belt as a starting catcher, and

577
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Speaker 2: I and nothing hit in I'm struggling. His defense, I

578
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Speaker 2: think is second and none. Honestly, his pitch framing is

579
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Speaker 2: almost on par with JT, I think. Now. I think

580
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Speaker 2: JT is obviously better framing, I think, but I think

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Speaker 2: Alfaro is not too far behind him. And of course

582
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Speaker 2: that cannon he's got behind.

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Speaker 1: The plate absolutely, And the thing you remember with al

584
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Speaker 1: far Row, who is at the age that he's at

585
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Speaker 1: where JT was at that age, so where we can't

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Speaker 1: really compare, Like you say, well, you know JT's ahead. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: JT's the best or if not one of the best

588
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Speaker 1: catchers in baseball. But at the age of alfar Row,

589
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Speaker 1: they were very similar. They were very similar defensively, and

590
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Speaker 1: if anything, alf Ro had more power at this age,

591
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Speaker 1: but he also has much swing and miss. So so

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you, especially when we consider

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Speaker 1: the age factor and.

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Speaker 2: My twenty twenty rotation. I got Caalede Smith opening day

595
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: starter as the first starter, and then number two Pablo Lopez.

596
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Speaker 2: He struggle is kind of battling an injury right now.

597
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Speaker 2: I don't know when is he slated to make his

598
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Speaker 2: next start or is he still kind of.

599
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Speaker 1: Like, I don't think they've actually made it. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they've made an official decision if he's going to

601
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Speaker 1: have another rehab or if he's just going to come up.

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Speaker 1: I would say this. People are worried about how he's

603
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Speaker 1: performing down there. You know, I know I'm mister positive,

604
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Speaker 1: whatever I'm not. I've seen million of veterans, and I

605
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Speaker 1: know Pablo's still a little younger, okay, but I've seen

606
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Speaker 1: millions of veterans go down and focus on something in

607
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Speaker 1: their rehab, and the numbers don't look pretty because they

608
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Speaker 1: are focusing on something. They're focusing on their off speed

609
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: because it didn't feel right or on a certain particular

610
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Speaker 1: thing and then they come up and boom, they're right

611
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Speaker 1: back to where they were. So Pablo Lopez is not

612
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Speaker 1: someone I'm necessarily worried about at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Pitching is like as a very similar to hitting

614
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Speaker 2: in the sense that if one thing is off, everything

615
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: is off right. Like so as far as pitching, if

616
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Speaker 2: if he's not feeling comfortable with his grips or as

617
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Speaker 2: far as I was, arm feels like like the numbers

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, in double A. I think he

619
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Speaker 2: went like less than three innings and he gave up

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Speaker 2: like six or seven runs. A lot of fantasy that

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Speaker 2: didn't like go, oh my gosh, you know what's wrong

622
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Speaker 2: with Pablo. And like you said, it's like a lot

623
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Speaker 2: of times they go down, they're just focusing on one thing,

624
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: whether it's just their breaking balls or maybe just their

625
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: you know, just their pitch sequences, and they try to

626
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: go out of their comfort zone just so they can

627
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: like you know, test to see how far they can go.

628
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: And sometimes the numbers aren't.

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Speaker 1: Pretty, and especially when you're rehabbing.

630
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Speaker 2: Especially when you're rehabbing. But so people shouldn't fan shouldn't

631
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: be too worried about Pablo struggles in his rehab starts.

632
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Speaker 2: I think he'll be back. If he doesn't make a

633
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: start this year, which I'd be very surprised if he didn't.

634
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Speaker 2: He will be back next season. And then third, we

635
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: got our All star Sandy Out. What a gem he

636
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: pitched last night. I was honestly, if you would have

637
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: gone through that eighth inning like unscathed, if that ball

638
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: didn't hit him, I would say that was his best game. Yeah,

639
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: better than the than the complete game.

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00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: Yep, it was. It was. It was incredible to see

641
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Speaker 1: and it was coming off of back to back to

642
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: back to back poor starts. Yeah, so, I mean, it

643
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: was nice to see him against the second best team

644
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: in the National League, against a potent offense that hits

645
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: the fastball very well, and he commanded well, he was aggressive.

646
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: Like you said, if that ball had just gone a

647
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: little bit to the left, it would have been right

648
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: in Nissan's glove, or a little bit to the right,

649
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: it would have been right in Nissan's glove and he

650
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: would have gotten unscathed. So it was really great to.

651
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: See a swing and a miss the slider gets Duvall

652
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: a brilliant seven innings would work for Sandy.

653
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I'm a fourth starter. People are gonna be

654
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: surprised by this, but I'm gonna explain why I have

655
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: him at fourth, and honestly, in reality, I don't even

656
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: know if he'll make the opening their roster. But this

657
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: isn't a perfect world. Fourth I have six dos Sanchez

658
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: believing I have him at and I have him at

659
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: fourth just because I don't want so. I don't want

660
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: to put so much pressure on a rookie on it,

661
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 2: put it in making him a top rotation guy right

662
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: off the bat. I kind of want to see if

663
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: he can just get his Just see how he does

664
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Speaker 2: the first you know, five or six starts or so

665
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, and then I think we can evaluate.

666
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: I think he's advanced enough, I think he's talented enough,

667
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: and I think he honestly has the the the dedication

668
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: to be able to make the opening day roster. I

669
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: think he can. He has the work ethic to make

670
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: it to the open day roster next year. It'll be

671
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: a big jump to go from double A to the majors.

672
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: But if if Yamamoto can do it, even though he's

673
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: not absolutely lately, if he can do it, I think

674
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: a guy like six dos Sanchez.

675
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: Can and it's been done, it's been done in six

676
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: to us, it's been on fire lately and that type

677
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: of talent. The only question would be the durability. But

678
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: if that's a that's an internal Marlins question, you know

679
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: it's internally they feel that he's ready, then he's ready.

680
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And again, all all this really depends on their springs,

681
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: Like all these young guys, like if they come out

682
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: of spring and they are showing really good signs and

683
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: you know, like you said, the inside, you know, the

684
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: inside of the Martins, Like if they feel like they're ready,

685
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: then they'll be ready. And then last guy at number five,

686
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: mto I have him still on the opening roster. I

687
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: think his struggles lately I have just been more about

688
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: confidence level like UH and location issues. But those are

689
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: things that you can be fixed. Those are things that

690
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: can be worked on in the off season the next spring.

691
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: And I think worst case scenario for Yams is if

692
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: he doesn't pan out as a starter. I think he

693
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: could be a really solid, you know, seventh or eighth

694
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 2: inning guy in the bullpen.

695
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree, man, I really love that.

696
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: I love number one absolutely it's aggressive, right, and I

697
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: like it. Number two, I love the fact that it's youth.

698
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: And I think that from a marketing standpoint, if the

699
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: Marlins came up with the opening day lineup like you

700
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: constructed and an opening staff like you constructed, it would

701
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: go a long way to those that are saying, oh,

702
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: they don't really want to compete, right, Oh, well they don't.

703
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: You know, they're not. They're gonna They're gonna do service

704
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: time manipulation with Monte and with six done with other individuals.

705
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: If they internally feel that they're ready and that's what

706
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: they put forward. I'm not say think that's a playoff team,

707
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: but there is a lot of talent there where. Suddenly

708
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: fun baseball is back in Miami. Now we have a

709
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: few minutes and I want to talk about some of

710
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: the things. I want to get your opinion on it. So,

711
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: Hissu Sanchez is in triple A right now. Do you

712
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: think there's any chance he carves his way into the

713
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: opening day lineup U outfield?

714
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: Right?

715
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Yep? Because he was. I mean, if there's one, if

716
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: there's one safe bat, in my eyes, it's Hissu Sanchez.

717
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: He's the one that we just got from Tampa Bay Ray's.

718
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: He's consensus top fifty prospect in baseball. You know, if

719
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: Lewis doesn't perform the way he want him to, I

720
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: could see him being the guy that they put in

721
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: right field. I'm not sure he would open it, but

722
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: that he would get most most of the at bats there.

723
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: But what what do you think?

724
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like I said, it depends on the spring, if

725
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: they if Lewis doesn't have a good spring, which is

726
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: rare because he always rakees in spring, and Hesus has

727
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: a good spring, and it all really depends. It all

728
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: depends on just where they are. Like I think, if

729
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: I think, if Hesus has a good, strong finish to

730
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and then show some really good signs of

731
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty spring, I think he could very He most

732
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: likely will be up in the major league roster in

733
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty opening day. We'll see. I couldn't. I couldn't

734
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: give you that answer, but he is definitely one of

735
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: the safer bats. He's one of those guys that will

736
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: likely make an impact very soon. And it's gonna be

737
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: interesting the next couple of years with our very crowded

738
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: outfield in the farms, guys like the Mesa Brothers, Brentson, Monte,

739
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: you know, Bledet, Meisner and Carnacion. It's gonna be interesting

740
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: how this all plays out. You know, There's there's one

741
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: thing I learned at the Archbishal McCarthy baseball system is

742
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: that competition is good, and competition brings out the best

743
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 2: out of every player.

744
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And what's fun about what's fun about next season? Okay,

745
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: so we started this season with understanding that it's rebuilding,

746
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: you two, with the understanding that we're gonna have a

747
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: lot of veterans in the first half of the year

748
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: and that then possibly, hopefully we're gonna start seeing some

749
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: debuts like we have seen from me San and then

750
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: Lewis came back up, and yeah, Mamoto came up. Whatever

751
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: the case is. Next year is this second half like

752
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: the entire year, you know it? It is youth installation

753
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: into this lineup, into the rotation and then the real

754
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: top hanchos, the real guys that a lot of individuals love.

755
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: The hissue Sanchez is the six oh Sanchez. If he

756
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: doesn't break opening day, we start to see their progression

757
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: come in. I still think maybe Jazz Chisholm is another

758
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: year away. From making his debut maybe late next year hopefully,

759
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: but still this elite which now has you know, the Marlins,

760
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: what number four on fan grabs, number four or five

761
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: on pipeline, that is, we're gonna start seeing that and

762
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: hopefully there will be more Saturday night games like we

763
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: had this weekend in the future next year where they're

764
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: competing and that top talent is coming together. All right,

765
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: So is there anything else on the roster you want

766
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: to hit? What we have time? So you let me know.

767
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: One thing, I think we have a really big hole

768
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: in and because personally I was a catcher growing up,

769
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: so I'm very like interested in in that position and

770
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: what we have in there. Other than I'll forrow, there's

771
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: only Banfield. He's the He's the only catcher in our

772
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: top thirty acornalvie dot com. And in reality, he's struggling

773
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: very much at the plate. His defense is unquestionable. It's

774
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: major league ready, I think within a year. But as

775
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: far as him at the plate, as far as him

776
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: at the plate, you know, he's there's a lot of

777
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: question marks in there. And one thing I wanted to

778
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: ask you in next year's draft, who do you think

779
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: we should target. Personally, I think getting a good maybe

780
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: not a high pick for a catcher, maybe a good

781
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: college bat catching later on in the rounds. But as

782
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: far as the top rounds are, first round, the first

783
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: few rounds, who do you think we should target?

784
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: So that's a good question. Here's my thing with catching position.

785
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm always going to value the catcher. I don't know,

786
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: maybe if I could say more than the regular fan,

787
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: and especially not if I'm talking to you, but I'm

788
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: always going to value the catcher at a very high level.

789
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: I think that a good way, especially when you have

790
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: young pitching, and especially when you are trying to produce

791
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: a farm system that yields significantly pitching. You want that

792
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: pitching staff to be in the hands of good defensive

793
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: and then game calling catchers. Which is why I love

794
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: that Will Bamfield is in the system.

795
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: I love it.

796
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: You're right, we're talking about a bat. I mean, he's

797
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: still very young, but we're talking out about a bat

798
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: that's not there, that is probably playing below level expectations.

799
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: And yet I love the fact that our top arms

800
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: are throwing to him. In particular, I love the fact

801
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: that the Marlins staff at the major league level throwing

802
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: to al Farrow in particular, even a guy like Nick Forte,

803
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: who's under the catcher in the system high IQ baseball guys.

804
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: So if there's a catcher who you really go after

805
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: in the top rounds, I am okay with that. There

806
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: are some that will say, no, you don't ever go

807
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: catch very high. I disagree. I'm okay with getting a

808
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: high talent, high ceiling type of catcher up up as

809
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: high as you want to go. How I would take

810
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: the draft next year, This is very early, but I

811
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: would take the draft next year is with the same

812
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: kind of mentality that they took this year, which was

813
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: safer bats. Now can they get arms, absolutely because now

814
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: the disbalance isn't there anymore. There's more balance in the system.

815
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: So if they go after a Handcock, if they go

816
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: after a Wilcox, which it's funny that buff of their

817
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: names and like that. But if they go after names

818
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: like that, I'm okay with that next year. But if

819
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: not give me the safe bats, give me the Martins

820
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: of the world. Give me Obviously Torquosen would be amazing

821
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: if they had someone to that, except that if they

822
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: could get at the two or the three or the four,

823
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: the which I don't think he'd fall that that far, but.

824
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: Nonetheless he's probably number one.

825
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think he goes one or two, depending

826
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: on whatever either the Royals or the Orioles made. You know,

827
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Hancock goes first, just because he's supposed to

828
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: be this elite of the leap pitching prospect, so maybe

829
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: he goes first. But honestly, Torkosen, Austin Martin from Vanderbilt

830
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: is a favorite of mine. I would love if they

831
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: want with him, even with Jazz Chisholm in our system.

832
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, you get a bat and you get a

833
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: defensive ability like Martin, and you go with it. You

834
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: play him somewhere else. He would be possibly two three

835
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: years away from the from making his debut. Anyway, the

836
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: only real catchers that I think his name is Bailey

837
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: coming off of my mind, I think his name is

838
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: Patrick Bailey. He's really the only top catching talent that

839
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: at least scouts are talking about right now. If somehow

840
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: they get him in the second I don't think he

841
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: falled to the second, that would be that would be phenomenal.

842
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: I believe there's a high school catcher named Romo or Romeo.

843
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: I believe it's Romo. That would be someone else that

844
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: you could look at in the second round, because I

845
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: do believe there's a hole in our system at the

846
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: catching position. And Al Farrot, for as good as he is,

847
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: does have his weaknesses. I think he's the guy moving forward,

848
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: but he high for the immediate future exactly exactly. But

849
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: behind him there are holes. If Banfield doesn't hit, or

850
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: if Forte doesn't hit, I think they should address that.

851
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: But I'm excited. I'm excited because then all of a sudden,

852
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: you're going into a draft with the number four UH

853
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: system already in baseball, so you can't say there's too

854
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: many holes. It's just about best player available, and if

855
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: it fills that need, then that's perfect.

856
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Personally for me, I would love obviously if they

857
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: got you know, a good defensive catcher, because to me,

858
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: I think catching as far as catchers, I think defense

859
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: always comes first. If they hit, that's just a bonus

860
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: personally for me. By think, you know, defense and game

861
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: calling is always priority as far as other than catching,

862
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 2: I would I would. I wouldn't mind if we drafted

863
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: you know, a really good college pitcher just because we

864
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: kind of we kind of dipped into our pitching surplus

865
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: for these creative trades and Lewin Diaz and Jazz Chism

866
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: and the guys like them, like, so I think it

867
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: would be a good idea to replenish our pitching surplus

868
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: just because you know, whenever you want to get get

869
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: creative with trades, as far as the deadline goes, pitching

870
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: is always the number one, you know, item, because the

871
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: number one asset, that's the one thing that's so hard

872
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: to build, and it's so hard to like you know,

873
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: like you said, it's a volatile like you don't know

874
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: what's going to happen, So it's never it's always a

875
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: good idea to have plus pitching surplus pitching, and I

876
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: think we should follow that trend next year. As far

877
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: as the high rounds, I don't know about that, but

878
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: definitely I think getting some good college pitchers and the

879
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: maybe like the second, third, or fourth round wouldn't be

880
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: the worst idea in the world. But I'll leave that

881
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: up to you know, Den BeO and Jeter and you

882
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: know what the guys upstairs think, because they're obviously much

883
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: more smarter than me.

884
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: Right now, no, then all of us trust me, and

885
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: that's actually going to connect right with what I was

886
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: going to say, which was the other thing, is that yes,

887
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: we're hopeful for the first time in our franchise. We're excited,

888
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: not necessarily for the first time, but excited like we

889
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: haven't been in a while. I'm also trusting like I

890
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: haven't been in a while. You know, I could go

891
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: into this Yeah, I could go into this draft. And

892
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: now they've shown us stuff. You know. Glenn Geffner came

893
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: on and he said something that was very interesting. He said,

894
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: you know, everyone thinks that I'm a shill. He's talking

895
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: about himself. You know, I'm sure people will say that

896
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: about me, but he's talking about himself. And he said,

897
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: everyone thinks I'm a shill for the organization. I didn't

898
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: say anything for a whole year. Those are his words.

899
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: He said. I wanted to look and I make an

900
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: assessment for a whole year to see if these people

901
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: really cared, if Sherman really came to every game, if

902
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: Jada was always in the press box or in the

903
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: in the suite, if they really did stick to their plan,

904
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: if they didn't devate. His interview was great because he

905
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: came from the perspective of you know, sue me. If

906
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: you think I'm a show for the company, I'm not.

907
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: I've been waiting to make an assessment and my assessment

908
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: is X, Y, and Z. And if you don't like it,

909
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: shove it, because at the end of the day, they

910
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: have started to show that we should be able to

911
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: trust them a little. But and it is still a

912
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: wait and see for a lot of things. They have

913
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: a lot of money, they used it. You know, they

914
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: have this beautiful plan. Will they stick with it?

915
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 2: Lauri?

916
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, at times look like he had a plan, but

917
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: then he put his foot in his mouth, or he

918
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: went too quickly, or he didn't allow the plan to develop.

919
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: Let's see if these this regime is different. So I'm

920
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: with you. You know, I'm excited. Obviously, everyone knows that

921
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: I have a certain amount of faith that this plan

922
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: is actually going to work because of who is conducting it.

923
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: And last night listening to Martin Products is nothing but

924
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: Whin I'm telling you, Apparently right, he's gonna win, and

925
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna win here and hopefully hopefully and this I

926
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: guess one of the last things I'll say is they

927
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: deserve it. Like the Marlins fans, right, the ones that

928
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: have us, that have been here, just deserve it. This

929
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: is a scorn fan base. The people like you, we

930
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: deserve that.

931
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: May I interrupt you for one second. I hope waited

932
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: this one time, and I still firmly believe this. I

933
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: believe that the Marlins, the ones who are still here

934
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: like you and I, the ones who are still doing,

935
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: still care, who give an f those are the best

936
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: fans in all sports. Because we have been kicked, we

937
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: have been spat on, we have been we've been told

938
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: the f off. If you live in Miami and you're

939
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 2: a tax player, you've been I don't want to say

940
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: golling from, but like you've been, you've been, you've been getting,

941
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: You've been used the short end of the stick forever.

942
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 2: And if there's one fan base that deserves a winning

943
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: team for many years, it's Miami Marlins fans.

944
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. I wrote something similar, Yeah, we are the

945
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: best fans in baseball. I don't care who laughs at that.

946
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 1: It just it's really easy to be a Yankee fan.

947
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: It's easy to be a Dodgers fan. And and you

948
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: know what, there are diehards there that don't deserve to

949
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: be minimized. So I'm not minimizing them. I'm just saying,

950
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: when you're a diehard of the Marlins, you are a

951
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: real die hard. There's no secondary.

952
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: It's like people who are still die hard. It's like

953
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: the people who are still die hard during the Cubs rebuild. Yeah,

954
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: like just still packed Wrigley Field every.

955
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: Night, the ones that probably the ones that you and

956
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: I were probably happy for when they won. Like I

957
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: was happy for the players, but I was happy for

958
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: the guy who's ninety years old who never saw a

959
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: ring and and now finally got to see one. I mean,

960
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: I hope that we're not ninety the next time that

961
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: we see a ring. But at the end of the day,

962
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: we're here because we love the sport, because you know,

963
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: either we love the city or we love the team

964
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: or the culture, whatever the case is. And finally we've

965
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: felt validated. That's why people are allowed about the rebuild.

966
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: That's why people are allowed about the criticism, because we're

967
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: finally getting something we appreciate. Hopefully it finally yields success,

968
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: but it's looking promising for the first time in a

969
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: long time. And and and that's something that we should

970
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: all be prideful of.

971
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: Derek Jeter Derek years first move in the off season

972
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: should be to extend Brian Anderson.

973
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, I just you just you're just my best

974
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: promoter for all all all the stuff. Yes, for the

975
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: love of everything that has to be and Brian Anderson.

976
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: That has to be the first thing on Drek Years

977
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: to do list. Et Brian Anderson first off.

978
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: It makes sense absolutely, and it would look so good

979
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: for the Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think someone said he's, uh,

980
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: he's like our Anthony Rizzo too. I don't know if

981
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: they're the same type of player, but you know it's

982
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: the same mentality. The guy that survived here while they

983
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: were rebuilding. He deserves it. It makes sense from a

984
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: baseball perspective, it makes sense from an optics perspective in

985
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: business and marketing. The fan base will appreciate it. And

986
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: quite frankly, the money that they're saving off of all

987
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: the contracts that are expiring this year, uh, you know,

988
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: you don't even have to use that anymore on a

989
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: hose bray you And if they do go for it,

990
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: but they have a Garret Cooper, now, they have a

991
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: Lewin Diaz. Use that money on extend Brian Anderson. It'll

992
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: go a long way with the fan base, and it's

993
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: something that from a baseball perspective makes a ton of

994
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: sense as well. All right, so we have gone over,

995
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: but I don't care. I'm so happy that we went over.

996
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: Before we go, let them know one more time where

997
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: they can find you. I'm sure you're going to be

998
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: back on. Trust me, I'm going to force you to

999
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: be back on. But let them know where they can

1000
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: find you on Twitter so that they can engage with you.

1001
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely find me on Twitter at fish Army three h five. Yeah,

1002
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: we're growing, you know. We just reached two hundred and

1003
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: ten followers and I couldn't be happy about that. I

1004
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: started this account in May and it's been a blast

1005
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: and I can't wait to keep doing it.

1006
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, fish Army three oh five. Aur brother, I appreciate you.

1007
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on, Thank you for the conversation.

1008
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm gonna force you to come back

1009
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: pack on at some point. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.

1010
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you too, Danny, have a go one