1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Ori and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a paranormal podcast network. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and share us 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: with everyone. This is an exciting new network that will 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: and opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: opinions only and do not reflect those of I Heart Media, 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: matter for yourself. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light 14 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: with Me, Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and 15 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. Welcome to my show. 16 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Remember each week this is the place you go to 17 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: when you want to get the answers or inside or 18 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: comments and research about the latest and what is happening 19 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: out there in the world when it comes to anything 20 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: out of the ordinary, from ghost to goblins, angels to aliens, 21 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: shadow people to hat man. I want you to go 22 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: to my main website, which is shadow Folks dot com 23 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: or Heidi Hollis dot com and just tell me what's 24 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: going on. Just be open and honest and express yourself, 25 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: express your research. If I can lend some inside, if 26 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: you have questions, that is what I am here for. 27 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: And you know, I've been in this ball game for 28 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: a long time talking about everything that I personally experienced 29 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: and all of the different aspects of things that I 30 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: bumped into as an experiencer or researcher as a human being, 31 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: going to various conferences from sci fi to the paranormal 32 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: to UFO conferences. I did it all because I had 33 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: experienced a lot of things that I just could not understand. 34 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: And uh, I'm growing up in on the house. I 35 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: had my siblings to bounce things off from and ask 36 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: questions and say, wow, what do you think about what 37 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: it is that we just went through? And not everybody 38 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: has that kind of support, And I want this to 39 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: be that kind of place for that kind of help 40 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: and support, because even if it's just event, at least 41 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: you feel you've been heard by one other person and uh, 42 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, I have a website called paranormal pledge dot 43 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: com and I was using that site and I still do. 44 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: I have a group on Facebook Paranormal Pledge, and I'll 45 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: will have shadow people in hat Mann Experience or group 46 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: and Faith the other F word group on Facebook. I 47 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: have a bunch of groups on there and pages anything 48 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: that could get people to come together and and just 49 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: talk about whatever it is, from faith to the shadowy, 50 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: to the paranormal to all of it. I mean it's 51 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: all connected. And uh, as confusing as it may be, 52 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: as a single person in the midst of something and 53 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: and not having that support, you can really really really 54 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: feel isolated and start questioning yourself because others are questioning you, 55 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: like why would that have happened? Why haven't I experienced that? 56 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, Um, that is something that I often would hear, 57 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: even as an experiencer of the Holy Angels, Jesus encounters, 58 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: And why you and not me? You know, it's like, look, 59 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: I I don't I don't put this stuff together. It 60 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: is what it is. And uh, I think it's really 61 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: important to not feel ashamed, not be apologetic even for 62 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: these things like sorry it's me and not you. I 63 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: think if we could just be like, hey, this is 64 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: attainable by everybody, and I really believe that. I really 65 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: believe if the mind and the soul work together, we 66 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: have potential that just is untapped. And we just can't 67 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: always question ourselves and question the next person. Have an 68 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: open mind. It doesn't hurt me to hear say, somebody 69 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: else's faith, you know, if you're not insulting, attacking, and 70 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: be rating and trying to oppress, what does it hurt 71 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: for me to hear your thoughts and your opinions about 72 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: things that's important? That's important? How else are we supposed 73 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: to grow and learn to get along with each other 74 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: if we're close minded where we can't even hear this stuff. 75 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it makes no sense, doesn't I mean, really, 76 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: it's a it's a already complicated the life as it is. 77 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: Do we have to make up rules and conversation too? 78 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: But getting back to paranormal pledge, so that group is 79 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: all about pretty much raising your right hand and saying, look, 80 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: I pledged to tell at least one other person that 81 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: I've experienced something out of the ordinary and just drop it. 82 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Be be friendly about it, beyond the level about it 83 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: and not necessarily having to be spooky always about it, 84 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: but just being honest. And if people around you know 85 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: you and know that you're an honest person, why wouldn't 86 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: that be believed? And you know what, it's not always 87 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: even that, like I mentioned, just having that chance to 88 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: get it out and to put it out there too, 89 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: because sitting alone in it is not healthy, it really isn't. 90 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: So I hope that you guys get encouraged listening to 91 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: this program, listening to the conversations that are being had, 92 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: and some of the emails that are being shared, and 93 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: some of the people that come on the show, Oh 94 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: that our experiences. They're not necessarily researchers or authors. It's 95 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: just regular folks. And I want you to feel that 96 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: you can come here and express yourself in that manner, 97 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: just like I had William del Morale last week. Unbelievable, 98 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: just a regular person. And uh, I know I know 99 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: his story will help others. I know it because that's 100 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: how we grow in this life. So remember, go to 101 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: shadow Folks dot com or Heidi Hollis dot com. They 102 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 1: both go to the same website. Write me an email, 103 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: tell me what is going on, and if you want 104 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: to come on this program. Say that too, because you 105 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: are more than welcome to do just that. You could 106 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: come on for a segment, or could come on for 107 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: several segments. I am open, and I know the listeners 108 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: appreciate you're taking the time, because hey, we're in this 109 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: world together, right. And guess what today's show is all about? 110 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: Your email? I love it. It's actually my favorite. I 111 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: love going through these emails. I love reading what it 112 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: is you guys are experiencing out there, and your questions 113 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: are are so interesting and so in depth. And and 114 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: I get a lot of people that send me messages 115 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: on Messenger or Twitter or Instagram, and and I welcome 116 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: that as well. It is harder for me to grab 117 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: those always and to place them here on the show, 118 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: So always go to the email. That makes it a 119 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: lot easier. And you know what, if you don't just 120 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: go to the website, just email Heidi Hollis at gmail 121 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: dot com. That works as well. So alright, let's dive 122 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: on in. And I don't read these usually beforehand. I 123 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: am just winging it. And sometimes the wording is a 124 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: little bit goofy, and I have to really wing it 125 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: and try to make sense of what people say, but 126 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: it's okay, we'll figure this out together, right, all right. 127 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: So this first email says, dear Hidie, that's me, Um. 128 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: I would like to know why it is that when 129 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: these strange things happen, it always seems to be between 130 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: three and four am in the early morning or at midnight. 131 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for your talk show. Nice to have a 132 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: place to ask questions. And I just want to tell 133 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: you that I too believe in Jesus, but do not 134 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: consider myself to be a Christian, and neither do my 135 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: few Christian friends. Thank you, Melody. Well, that's interesting, um, 136 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: you know it's it's fascinating to me about the witching hour, 137 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: which people often call three am, Um, But it does 138 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: seem to be like that's about the time when that 139 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: real deep rem sleep is going on, right, And I 140 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: think our guard is a lot more down than at 141 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: any other time in your sleep when you're in REM sleep, 142 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: because you're like in it, you're dreaming, your eyes are 143 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: doing the rapid eye movement which is rem r a M. 144 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: And uh, it seems to be that is the most 145 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: vulnerable time period for a lot of people. And you know, 146 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: when it comes to midnight, I mean Isn't that just 147 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: so cliche, Like it's in the horror movies, like, oh no, 148 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: it's midnight, what's gonna happened now? Oh? All heck is 149 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: going to break loose it? There is um some superstition 150 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: to that clicking over. You know, you're into the next 151 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: day midnight, so it's like a new beginning. Does it 152 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: strike a chord on the other side? Is it does 153 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: it open a portal? Um? Actually, that is kind of 154 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: the belief that there is a weakening between our world 155 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: and the next. So midnight and then the witching hour 156 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: three to four am. Uh yeah, it's it's a common pattern, 157 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: So there has to be something to it, right, there 158 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: has to be some kind of struggle with strength and 159 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: battle for power at that those hours. I mean, it's uh, 160 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: it is kind fascinating how it is. And you know, 161 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: when I think about the emails that I get to, 162 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: they really do kind of say, well, you know, I 163 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: I rolled over in bed and it was three am. 164 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: Three am seems to be the most popular time. Um. 165 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of night owls, especially during 166 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: the pandemic, because nobody is quite at their usual pace 167 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: of things, and so we were like late night people 168 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: as of late. It's not wild. It's like our whole 169 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: sleep schedule and everything is thrown off. People's jobs got 170 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: thrown off. People had a tend to things that they 171 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: didn't have to at home. So I think a lot 172 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: of people are up at midnight oftentimes now. And uh, 173 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: I think that the pattern of the emails they do 174 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: tend to be three am. But I think beforehand I 175 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: did get more emails saying midnight does happen at midnight? 176 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, so yeah, it's it's kind of interesting. 177 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: But I'm glad that you're enjoying the show and you 178 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: believe in Jesus, but you know, consider yourself to be 179 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: a Christian, and neither do your few Christian friends. Okay, 180 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm curious why, Um that popped up because a lot 181 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: of people they say, you know, I acknowledge he was 182 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: a real person. He did great things, he was nice, 183 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: he tried to help people. Um. I've even had Jewish 184 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: friends say I think he's kind of responsible for the 185 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: non orthodox Jewish ways, because I remember Jesus was Jewish 186 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: right and his practices were a lot more loosely held 187 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: than those of his time. When it came to being Jewish, right, 188 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: so he started a whole lot of different trends. So 189 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: it's okay to acknowledge and to appreciate that he was. 190 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: He did a lot of great things. And it's like, 191 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: what is the definition of Christian? It's like trying to 192 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: use his example to be christ like, right, be nice, 193 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: try to help people, look out for your fellow man, 194 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: and believe that you know, the Son of God came 195 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: to try to help people, and um yeah. So it's 196 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people have these interesting definitions on what 197 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: it is. Like I'm not personally somebody that goes to 198 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: church regularly or something, um so, I but I call 199 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: myself Christian because my beliefs are more aligned in that 200 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: direction with Christianity. I was raised in it. It kind 201 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: of stays with you. It's just kind of like how 202 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: some people say with politics, if your family's Republican or Democratic, 203 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: you do tend to follow your family's practices. It's kind 204 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: of instilled in you. And uh So, like when a 205 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: lot of people reach out to me here on this 206 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: show and they're like, well, I don't get into that 207 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: religious stuff, but I used to be, it's like, well, 208 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: and it's ingrained in you. Kind of you know you 209 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: know how to pull onto that and um, you know 210 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: it's okay to say I'm Christian, or I'm Christian based, 211 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: or I believe in the teachings of So I feel you, 212 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: and I hear you, and I appreciate your email melody. 213 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: So all right, we're gonna get to our first break. 214 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: You guys are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me 215 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 216 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: Coast AM Pernorval podcast network. Stick around, We'll be right back. 217 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: Hey the Coast to Coasting on YouTube General. Go to 218 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast am dot com for more information. 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I appreciate the confidence and let you 234 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: guys give to me to even send these my way. 235 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: So I really really appreciate it, and I think it's 236 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: very healthy for all of us, don't you. I mean, 237 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: my goodness? All right, So this email comes to us 238 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: from Valerie and it says, Hey, Heidi, glad to see 239 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: your back. Where was I thinking? You know what, I 240 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: have been doing talk radio for a long time, and 241 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: I do take breaks here and there between different networks. 242 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: And uh, I have really really enjoyed being part of 243 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast New Paranormal Podcast Network. It has been 244 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: really a blast and quite an honor and a dream 245 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: come true. So I'm glad that you're enjoying the show. Valerie. 246 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: I've read a couple of your books. Oh cool. Anyway, 247 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: there has definitely been some unusual UFO activity here in 248 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: Costa Rica. Who must be beautiful. Um. We have had 249 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: about four close encounters in the past two months or so. Wow. 250 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: My husband even was spoken to by these beings that 251 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: came on the UFO. They had come from a whortle 252 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: in a lake or body of water. Wow. Okay. And 253 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: they looked like they had an ant eater or elephant 254 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: like faces. Their trunks were not actually as long as 255 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: an elephants, and he only saw their faces. They were 256 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: friendly and helpful. He can't remember everything, but said the 257 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: sense he got was that they were offering help and protection. 258 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,359 Speaker 1: We do lots of spiritual ceremonies here and often interact 259 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: with interdimensional beings, but lately we have been seeing their 260 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: crafts pretty close up on non ceremonial nights. Seems they 261 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: are very interested in us, and I thought it would 262 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: share and also extend and an invitation if you should 263 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: want to come visit. Oh Valerie, Oh Valerie, do not 264 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: tempt me. That's sounds awesome. Oh my goodness. I've always 265 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: wanted to go over there. So, um, you know what, 266 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: I just might send you an email. Um my goodness. Okay, 267 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: So that's fascinating, this this being that you're speaking of 268 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: and for personal reasons. Actually I am curious. So in 269 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: my first book, The Secret War, there was a being 270 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: that myself and college roommate experienced, and she more than myself. 271 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: It's it's is such a weird thing to say, but hey, 272 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm on a paranormal show, right, um, and I'm hoasting it, 273 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: so it's get this all right. So, so being that 274 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: myself and my friend had a lot of interaction with um, 275 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: his name was Calf. That's c A F T h okay. 276 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: And uh, there was another being that they had, like 277 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: a hierarchy. There was like, um, like somebody who flew 278 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: the ship and the one that flew the ship it 279 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: had like this this bulbous like head but not like 280 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: not like a gray I mean, how can I say? Um, 281 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: it looked like the end of of a worm head. Okay, 282 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: looked like that, but it was on top of being. 283 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: And he was probably six ft tall and big, round 284 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: brown eyes, almost human looking but really large, and had 285 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: this nose like thing that was kind of like, um, 286 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: like what you're talking about here is like like almost 287 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: like a trunk, but it was hardly extended off of 288 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: his face much. And he had a name and it 289 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: was g A just God and very very spiritual, very 290 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: warm type of being. Now me personally, I didn't see him. 291 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: I didn't get to meet this this being, Okay, But 292 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: my college roommate did, Samantha, and uh, she drew an 293 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: extraordinary lifelike picture of this this creature, and I used 294 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: to have it on my website, um, alien advice dot com. 295 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: But it's very strange. You know, a lot of us 296 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: that are involved in these topics, we get the strangest 297 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: things happening to our electronics. And my website was wiped um. 298 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: And I used to have him plastered up there. And 299 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: with the abuse of my other drawings that I had online, 300 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: like Hatman just abused to death, I swear all over 301 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: the place. People they alter it a little bit and 302 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: try to make it their own. Um. I haven't had 303 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: those drawings up for years. UM, so maybe it's something 304 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: I'll show you at some point. But so yeah, this uh, 305 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: this creature was full wisdom and kind. Um. But so 306 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: when my friend okay, so she interacted with these beings, 307 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: like how can I say she she would like hate 308 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: the thought of calling it like channeling because it was 309 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: physical too, because they projected themselves. I'm sitting there, and 310 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: I see they had projected themselves. I saw these things, 311 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: but I didn't see this one. But when she was 312 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: talking to them and her her meditational state should call it, 313 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: I would get images like pop into my head, and uh, 314 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: I saw him. I saw what it looked like, and 315 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: I was like, ohh he's different. And then the drawing 316 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: that she made just just extraordinarily lifelike. I'm like, I 317 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: felt like I was literally experiencing him with her. So, um, 318 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: I I understand. And these are beings that surely are 319 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: not spoken of very often. And uh, because they're not invasive, 320 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: they're not invading. Those are the grays, Those are the reptilians. 321 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: Those are anything that's coming at you that's caused harm, 322 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: even if they apologize later and then cause your harm again. 323 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: I mean, think of an abusive husband. You know, he 324 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: harms you, Oh I'm so sorry, harms you again, harms 325 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: you again, harms you again. Oh, but then he gives 326 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: you flowers. Oh well everything was worth it. No, that's 327 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: not okay, guys. Um, So there is a conflict in 328 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: alien contact. And you know, there's some folks that think 329 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: it's all good out there, and it's it's not. Um, 330 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: it's we have to be on our on our p's 331 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: and ques. But you know, we also can't just put 332 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: a whole big tag on all these beings to say bad, 333 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: all bad. Uh. You know we're at war with them. 334 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's a reason behind every war and there's 335 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: a side to every conversation when it comes to war. Right, 336 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: So we can't just white wash it like that. So 337 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: just be aware and uh something that these beings myself, 338 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: of my college roommate experience, that the same beings that 339 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: helped me introduce these whole phenomena, two of them that 340 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: well it's suddenly believable, you know, because somebody else said it. Uh, 341 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: I've been trying to talk about this for twenty years now. Um. 342 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: So it's it's been the same beings are saying. You 343 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: can't trust with your eyes. You have to be able 344 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: to feel them out. You have to be able to 345 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: know what's in front of you without you know, being 346 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: entertained with your eyeballs all the time. You know. So 347 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: it it is a they're not gorgeous, they're not pretty always, um, 348 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: but they could be kind. And here you're talking about 349 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: something that has like an ant eater like face and 350 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: elephant like face, but you felt that kindness there and curiosity, 351 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: and I think it it's really interesting that you can 352 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: feel that while others would be like monster run. You know, 353 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: these are not the typical cartoon made gray beings dancing 354 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: and on the screen or something. Those ones are seeing 355 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: so often because it's like an infestation with some of 356 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: the things that they're doing and involved themselves in and 357 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: people's lives and whether invited or not, and then having 358 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: to convince them. If you heard last week's UM podcast 359 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: with William moorele they were trying to convince him. You agreed, 360 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: you agreed to this, It's okay, let us be here. 361 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: They need that permission. There's a reason for that. There's 362 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: a reason for that. So do not be fooled just 363 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: because it's commonplace to see a certain type of being. 364 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: To know that this one's kind because so and so 365 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: experienced something one way, even even if you saw these 366 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: elephant face looking ones. Who knows, maybe their brother is 367 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: a real jerk, you know, I mean, just keep it real. 368 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's like everybody's got one in their family too. 369 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: Write not the most pleasant person. But we can't just 370 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: put them in one group. And so I I appreciate 371 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: that you're writing in about something that's so very different 372 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 1: that a lot of people really couldn't relate to. But 373 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: I did, I did, I know what you're talking about, 374 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: and uh, I think that's really cool. And so you 375 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: have these these, uh, these sightings that are increasing, and 376 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: I can't help but to wonder if your spiritual ceremonies 377 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: are bringing their curiosity, which is cool because my understanding 378 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: is when we all have this this like light that's 379 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: above our heads, it was shown to me and um, 380 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: different circumstances, it's hard to explain all this stuff. And uh, 381 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: some people's light is so bright it looks like the 382 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: the World Trade Center light be just shooting up into 383 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: the sky, and these beings flying over see it and 384 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: they might zip down and say, hey, who's that shiny 385 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: bright light over there? So it's kind of kind of cool. 386 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: And speaking of World Trade Center, UM, so it's it's 387 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: been it's been a long time, in twenty years now, 388 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: and we're um, you know, memorializing something so tragic. Uh, 389 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: and uh, you know that pain gets shot out into 390 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: the universe as well. So I've heard of increases of 391 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: activity around that area because of what took place there. 392 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: So when you put out good, it does the same. 393 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: So these spiritual ceremonies are awesome, and uh apparently it's 394 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: attracting the positive one. So yeah, yeah for that. But 395 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: I think this is such a cool email. I really 396 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: dick this that you had this positive experience and the 397 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: UFOs are popping around and the portals and portals aren't 398 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: real people. I was told how to find where they 399 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: are at and it's like, whoa, they're everywhere. They're everywhere, 400 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: and uh that allows for good and bad to come through. 401 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: So it's like, what do you what do you say? 402 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: Or due to that, it's like, you know, keep your 403 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: space positive and sprinkles of Jesus on it, as I say, um, 404 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: keep it, keep it real, and keep it blessed. And wow, 405 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: I really appreciate the invitation here, Valerie. I'm going to 406 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: save this email for a trip to Coasta, Rica and 407 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: we'll safe out all that. But thank you so much. 408 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: You guys. 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That's Coast to Coast AM dot com. 428 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with 429 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 430 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Wow, Okay, I have 431 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: a huge email here and we're just gonna dissect this one, 432 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: and I have a feeling it's gonna go into the 433 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: next segment. But that's all good. I am telling you guys, 434 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: the bigger the email, the better because it really helps 435 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: to paint a picture about what's going on in a 436 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: person's life. So let's dive on in, all right. This 437 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: one says dear Heidi Um. This past summer, I would 438 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,959 Speaker 1: be sitting in our guest bedroom watching some Netflix day 439 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: and night, and I'd noticed shadowy movements out in the 440 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: hall just outside my son's room. It made me feel nervous, 441 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: but I did nothing about it. A few weeks later, 442 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: my husband's son and I booked a shalet in Quebec, 443 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: Canada for a week's getaway to do some trail biking. 444 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: My daughter was away at summer camp, so things were 445 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: a little quieter than usual. What are you saying? I 446 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: was kidding. I got a child that's a little bit 447 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: more chatty than the other one. I get it, all right. 448 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: But once we arrived at our rented shellet, we couldn't 449 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: wait to get out of the car and explore our 450 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: place for the week. The shelle itself looked only about 451 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: twenty years old. However, the home was filled with tons 452 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: of antiques. Okay, I'm feeling the vibe already. In fact, 453 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: there was an antique on every shelf, wall and in 454 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: the furniture. It was quite an assortment of odds and ends, 455 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: and some look like World War two items like a 456 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: pinball machine and farm equipment, et cetera. Okay, there's a 457 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: lot of attachments on these things. I just know what's 458 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: kind and I know it's coming. Okay, Okay, my thoughts 459 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: on the place started to change. Instead of feeling excited, 460 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: I felt nervous. I immediately wondered if any of these 461 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: items were wanted. Where my mind was going, Oh, you 462 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: know what happens. You know this happens. Okay. When darkness 463 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: fell that first night, things felt very creepy. My son 464 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: had acclaimed the main floor bedroom because of his disability, 465 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: and my husband and I were to sleep upstairs. While 466 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: watching TV that first night, I caught movements out of 467 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: the corner of my eye every few minutes. It really 468 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: bothered me, but I didn't want to say anything to anyone, 469 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: But I felt terrified and annoyed at the same time. 470 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: Why I feel you. I don't like when things intrude 471 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to have a good time. So 472 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: I feel you, and it's like I get a little bit, 473 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: I get a little bit angry, and it's like and 474 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of a defensive anger. It's like, get out. 475 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: You didn't pay for this shale. You can go now, 476 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: all right? And they continue. That first night, I didn't 477 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: sleep well and was awoken from a loud sound and 478 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: my husband awoke too, and we called out from my son. 479 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't him. My husband got up to explore to 480 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: find nothing. I could not wait for the morning light 481 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: to stream in the next night, my husband exclaimed, oh 482 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: my god, I asked, what hey. I first said, oh nothing. 483 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: That that is never a good sign. I hate what happens? What? 484 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: What do you gave him a heart attack? Just now? 485 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: What happened? Oh? Oh nothing, nothing? Who let me calm 486 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: my heart right down? Okay, all right? Continuing I'm trying 487 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: to brush off his reaction. I kept pastoring him, Oh yeah, 488 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: you got the same issue. Okay. I kept pastoring him 489 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: to tell me what happened, and he finally said I 490 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: saw a shadow move across the window. Oh nasty. At 491 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 1: that point I confided to him that I was also 492 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: seeing shadow figures moving between the walls. It gives me chills. 493 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: Later that week, I saw oh no, oh no, no, 494 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: I know, oh no, I knew, not like this. Okay. 495 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: Later that week, I saw the red eyes looking at 496 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: me through the bricks by the tv O. Okay, I 497 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: got chills. That's just starbing. That's so disturbing through the bricks. Okay. 498 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: I was so frightened. I couldn't move in the space 499 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: by myself, especially at night. So I don't blame you. 500 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: I felt eyes on me the entire time and the 501 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: duration of our stay. Oh my gosh. I would have 502 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: tried to cut loose early. A few times. I asked 503 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: my husband if we could pack it in and level 504 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: I spoke too soon. That's it's funny. But then it's 505 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: not because you went there for a break and no, no, 506 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: no evil has to take a look at you. Oh 507 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 1: my gosh. Okay, I just didn't want to sleep another night. 508 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: We changed bedrooms, and it's still didn't help. Hold on there, okay, one, two, three. 509 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: There are four exclamation points after that sentence. No. The 510 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: last night of our stay, my son was using the 511 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: bathroom and the fan and lights just shut off. H 512 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: The power was on and the rest of the home 513 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: the bathroom was where the shadow figures moved between. Of course, 514 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: that's where it was. I finally contacted the owners and 515 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: they gave us another method to turn them on. So weird, 516 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: so weird? Are you kidding me? These people knew they 517 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: had to know, like, oh oh, did the demons act 518 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: up lets? Let's show them the trick that we learned 519 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: and anointed with holy oil to work those lights. Oh 520 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: my gosh. The heck mm hmm okay continues On our 521 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: last day, I couldn't wait to leave the property. We 522 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: left at seven a m. Without looking back. Oh no, 523 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: oh wow. Upon arrival at home, I started researching shadow 524 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: people and found your website. Well, hallelujah, this experience has 525 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: really shaken me up. I'm sure I don't mean to 526 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: laugh at your expense. I totally get it, Okay. When 527 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: I contacted the owner, she played innocent yeah and said 528 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: she had never heard of such a thing. Oh my right. 529 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: My mother told me to take a couple of things 530 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: out of my son's room. We had gone on vacation 531 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: to the Dominican Republic, and I bought him a mask 532 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: and idle figurin. Hmm. They have been in his room 533 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: for about eight years. Could they be related to the shadows? 534 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: Last night? I took them out of the house. What 535 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: do you make of this experience? Any advice would be appreciated. 536 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kirsten m Okay, okay, alright, alright, so alright, 537 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: everybody's caught up to speed. This was a nice week's 538 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: getaway only to be met with a home full of antiques. 539 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: Apparently this is like an air It's a chalet or 540 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: B and B like type of thing. Um. So anyways, 541 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: you guys, I always tell people be leary, be careful 542 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 1: sometimes in getting antiques. It sounds silly, right, but people 543 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: are like, gosh, I just don't know why this huge 544 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: match and is haunted the spirits and energies of things 545 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: get trapped in or attached to items that another spirit 546 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: had touched. It's so weird. It's like, how can I say? 547 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: It's like portals? Okay, why why do portals exist? How 548 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: are they able to penetrate to reach through? And I 549 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: had heard of a house that was down and somebody 550 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: found a really cool door from this house that was 551 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 1: ripped down, and and so they put it in their house. 552 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: Boom haunted. I mean, so they had to think, Okay, 553 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: let me see what, gosh, what was it? Did I 554 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: what made my house that I've been living in for 555 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: fifteen years become haunted? Oh? I put that door in. 556 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: It seems so mundane, but it's so so wild to 557 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: me that people usually can figure out what might have 558 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: caused the problems to begin. And then you've got a 559 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: house with all of these gatherings of materials from another 560 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: home to make up your home. That's a that's a 561 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: crowded space, I would say, with potential reach ins from 562 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: the other side. I mean, it's like creations of little portals. Um, 563 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, I guess, I guess it's like you know 564 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: what makes a house at home? It's like, well, you know, 565 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: there's four walls, da da da. But then we put 566 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: our personal items in it and it kind of helps 567 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: to create that little hum of a home in there. Right. 568 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: So I can't help but to attribute it to being 569 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: just as important as a foundation sometimes and and like say, 570 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: that's a really beautiful, happy home and and you've got 571 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: like this wonderful dinnerware that just you know, you have 572 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: great meals there and all this positive energy is in 573 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: it the dinnerware, and then it gets given to somebody 574 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: and and all of a sudden their house feels a 575 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: little bit more cheery. You know, that's a positive energy. 576 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: And we aren't made up of energy. So if we're 577 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: made up of energy and it's good stuff, you know, 578 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: pour some in my ball, please, because the more the merrier. 579 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: It's just like the intentions for prayer. Okay, we pour 580 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: that into somebody and and it works. I mean, why 581 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: why do people continue with prayer groups if it wasn't working. 582 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's been scientific studies done to show that 583 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: one patient going through the same surgery as the other one, 584 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: and they'll have like prayer circles and prayer dedicated to 585 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: the one patient but not the other. Guess which one 586 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: does better. It's it's proven. So we're pouring all this 587 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 1: positive energy is building up and healing and making somebody 588 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: feel good. No imagine if there's something rotten going on 589 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: in the house, you know, every time and somebody sits 590 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: down for dinner with their family and they're having an argument, 591 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: they're getting abusive physically or not, and it gets poured 592 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: into that same dinner ware, and all of a sudden, 593 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: somebody takes that dinner were home and they're gonna have 594 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: dinner with it, and boy, everybody's in a bad funk. 595 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: All of a sudden it gets poured in. It's in 596 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: these items. It seems so odd, right, But if we 597 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: can pour the good, why can't we pour the bat right? 598 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get say this conversation after the break, 599 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: because it's juicy, everybody. You are listening to Dark Becomes 600 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: Light with me? Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio 601 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network stock around 602 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: exclusively right there before the art Belle Volt has classic 603 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: audio waiting for you. Now. Go to Coast to Coast 604 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: m dot com for details. The Internet is an extraordinary 605 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 1: resource that links our children to a world of information, experiences, 606 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: and ideas and also can expose them to risk. Teach 607 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 1: your children the basic safety rules of the virtual world. 608 00:40:50,640 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: Our children are everything. Do everything for them. Welcome back. 609 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi 610 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM. 611 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: Your normal podcast Network, and today's show is all about 612 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: your emails and your stories and what it is that 613 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: you're experiencing out of the ordinary. And I had a 614 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: fascinating and large email, very welcomed from Kirsten, and she 615 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: and her family rented a shalet and moved on in 616 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: there only to be met with a bunch of antiques 617 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: in there, and her intuition told her, I wonder if 618 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: any of these items are haunted. Lo and behold. They 619 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: were unfortunately met with some bad incidences with da da 620 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: da da, drum roll, rotten things, um, unfortunately. So I'm 621 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: not surprised if you have this converging as I was 622 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: talking about in the prior segment of energies, if there's 623 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: like a collection of everybody's goodies from the past, it 624 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: kind of gives the excuse for things to pour in 625 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 1: their energy through. And if somebody imagine there's a soul 626 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: wandering the planet, okay, and they are walking around and 627 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: like they could go through the home that they lived in, right, 628 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: But if a part of their home is in another home, 629 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: it's like this energy drip is in there and they 630 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: can reach in through that. Now, what Kirsten was talking 631 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: about in her experiences, they saw shadowy figures, right, And 632 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: now sometimes people see things in their periph revision and 633 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: it looks darker. They could be the energy of a person. 634 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: It really could be. And I know that my whole 635 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: thing is shadow people. Um. I shouldn't say all, but 636 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 1: being the person that put this out to the world 637 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: of shadow people and hat man, um, I kind of 638 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: do know what I'm talking about. Um, but so so 639 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: people their their peripheral vision is more sensitive to uh, 640 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: movement and darkness and um, so it's something that it 641 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: was kind of put in humankind. So we could see 642 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: a predator to our periphery vision if we aren't looking 643 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: necessarily in that direction, so we're more apt to respond. 644 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 1: So it could have been some of these shadowy figures 645 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: could have been a soul of somebody. I think there's 646 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: a likelihood. But then, but then Kirsten is watching television, 647 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 1: I'm assuming, only to see glowing red eyes peering from 648 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: the brick wall right next to the television. Now, guess what, 649 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: that's not a person. I call them shadow people, I know, 650 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: but they have never been a people. Okay, Uh, they 651 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: could shape shift into different things and having the glowing 652 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: red eyes that is so them. Um. Yeah, and hat 653 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: Man has those two, but not all the time. The 654 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: in shadow people don't always have the glowing red eyes either. 655 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 1: But you've got two things going on here. You've seen 656 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,439 Speaker 1: the shadow figure more than once, and then you saw 657 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: the glowing red eyes and you have that that feel, 658 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: that that gut that's telling you, oh, heck, no, this 659 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: is not a place I want to stay. And uh, 660 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry, but when there's shadow people activity people, 661 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: people know there's a problem. They really do. And you're saying, 662 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: this is privately owned place, and these people knew the 663 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: tricks to get around when the creatures of the night 664 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: would act up and take out the electricity, like, oh 665 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,240 Speaker 1: there's another way. Oh my gosh, I don't like that. 666 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,959 Speaker 1: You were, And and the future people that may rent 667 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: the place are open to experiencing these things because shadow 668 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: people do follow they can't attach themselves, and yeah, so 669 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: that that's not cool. And I'm trying to imagine, like 670 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: imagine you have this this the chalet and and got 671 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: this place and then oh my gosh, there's demons here. 672 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: Well we're not going to live here because other people 673 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: have instincts too, So those owners were like, oh, I 674 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: know how we could pay it off. We can just 675 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: airbnb it, right, And you wonder, gosh is a great 676 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: place to stay. Why wouldn't they want to be here? Well, 677 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: and there's demons. Um. You know what might have caused 678 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: this always is not clear, but there's a collection of 679 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: soul attachment to different items there. I think there's a 680 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: possibility that they may have attracted it. Now, you had 681 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: the question that you'd gone to the Dominican Republic and 682 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: you brought back a mask and an idol, figuring now 683 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: that's been in his room for eight years, and you're 684 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: asking could that be related to the shadows? Um, if 685 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,760 Speaker 1: you didn't have issues starting when you got these things, 686 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily say that. Um. But you just called 687 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: it a mask and an idol. But you don't. You 688 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: didn't mention any kind of distinguishing reason behind these masks 689 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: and idols. I mean, for all we know it's a 690 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: horrible mask used in some kind of ceremonial stuff. But 691 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: who knows. I mean we didn't look into a dead way. 692 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: But and an idol, I mean sometimes, uh, you know, 693 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: it's just like it's like a person could speak a 694 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: cool language and tell your recipe and they will tell you, oh, no, 695 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,439 Speaker 1: that was saying a good day, sir, how are you? 696 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: But they might have just told you something else. So 697 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: we have to research these things for ourselves too, because 698 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: sometimes there's rotten people in the world and they want 699 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: to expand their power through things that they might make 700 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: and curse and blast or whatever. And then you bought it. 701 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: Um so, But I'm guessing that this figuring and mask 702 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: may not have been the cause of it. I think 703 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: wherever you went may have been the cause of it. 704 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 1: That there was a collection of souls there, and shadow 705 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: people love to feed off from souls, and especially if 706 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these souls, you know, traveling the world, 707 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: see their items are there, go to take a peek 708 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: inside the chalet and the one behold there's a shadow 709 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: being there waiting and grabs them and holds them there 710 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: and just collecting, just collecting souls, that's all. So it's 711 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: something that is a practice of shadow beings. Have talked 712 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,280 Speaker 1: about it before. It's not something I always talk about, 713 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: but I do have it in my books, the Secret 714 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 1: War and the hat Man books. Um So, It's it's sad, 715 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 1: It's really sad. To think that a loved one from 716 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: a long time ago or recently whatever, got attached to 717 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: an item and stuck in a place because a demon 718 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: saw they came a little bit too close. That sucks. 719 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: That's horrible. So um, but again, be careful about buying MASS. 720 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: I had spoken to people who have had MASS. I mean, 721 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: what were they used for? I ask those questions. Google it, 722 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: look it up before you bring it into your home, 723 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 1: because I do know of people that have been slightly 724 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: and fully possessed by collecting such things. So it may 725 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 1: not have been a good thing to have in your 726 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: child's room that you didn't know the meaning behind. But 727 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: to say it brought these shadows, and I think that 728 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: Shelley has some answer and to do. That's what the 729 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: owners there don't. If the shalle spoke itself, then I'd 730 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: really run. But I'd say that the owners I knew 731 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: what was going on and are happy to be renting 732 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: this space out, because wow, there's no way they wouldn't know. 733 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: There's just no way. No. So yeah, So I'm I'm 734 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: sorry that you had that experience. I'm happy to hear 735 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: this has not followed you home. I don't think it's 736 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: a bad thing that you took those items out of 737 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: in your child's bedroom. UM, so mom knows best, right, 738 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: So it's good to be safe than sorry. And uh, 739 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: I can't help but to um it feel bad that 740 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: a child has to experience anything out of the ordinary 741 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: like that. So I hope that your child's sense of 742 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: what's real in this world and what can harm you 743 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,879 Speaker 1: in this world has been spoken of. I hope that 744 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: you've had open conversations with everybody involved, because it's it's 745 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: just as real as good. So acknowledging evil exists is 746 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 1: not a worshiping. I don't want you to put a 747 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: lot of energy into it, but just acknowledging we experienced this, 748 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: this was real. Um, we have to be more careful. 749 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: Bless our space, even if you're going to be in 750 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: a place for a week. Why not I keep a 751 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: blessed item with me that I blessed myself. I went 752 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: around and used it in blessing my living space and 753 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: my home, and then I wear it and that's called across. So, UM, 754 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: I keep my protection with me. So if you're not 755 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 1: um having something to protect you like that, I suggest 756 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: having something because how disturbing have a mental image burned 757 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: in my head of the red eyes looking back at you. 758 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's. Um, that's not a good feeling 759 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: I've had that. And uh, yeah, I'm glad that you 760 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: made a clean cut away from there. And yeah, no 761 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: residuals please ever, Okay, um, but yeah, so I'm I'm 762 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: happy to answer any more questions that you have in 763 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: regards to this, Kristen, And I want to thank you 764 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: so much for taking the time to write me about 765 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: this because I think, um, people get themselves into trouble 766 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 1: when they visit certain places. They go on these haunted 767 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: tours whose place house goose and there's said to be 768 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: a demon, And then they go home and their bit 769 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: starts popping up and down like there's a demon under it, 770 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 1: Like what what on earth? Wow? We were just out 771 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: and open to that. You're just exposed. It's neat and 772 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,919 Speaker 1: cool until somebody gets a demon in their house right 773 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: instead of sing an eye might be even easier sometimes. Um, 774 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: So yeah, be careful out there, guys, And again, thank 775 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: you so much for writing me. This has been a 776 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 1: really fascinating group of emails. And again, if anybody out 777 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: there has experienced anything out of the ordinary, I mean 778 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: sprinkle the positive too. I mean, I know there's a 779 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: lot of bad stuff going on out there in the world, 780 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: and it's it's pretty sad. It's pretty sad. But um, 781 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: let's focus on the good too. There's miracles happening all 782 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: the time, very rare do I get those emails. But 783 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: it's all good. It's all good. We will take the 784 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 1: bad too, it's all good. Um. But yeah, go to 785 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: my main website, which is a shadow Folks dot com 786 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: or Heidi Hollis dot com and write me, tell me 787 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: what's going on. And if you don't go to the website, 788 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: go and just send me a direct email at Heidi 789 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 1: Hollis at gmail dot com. Wow, this is this has 790 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: been fascinating. Well, you guys, we've come to the body 791 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: of another episode. You have been listening to Dark Becomes 792 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,720 Speaker 1: Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio 793 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast a m paranormal podcast network. We'll 794 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: catch you next time. Be safe, everybody. 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