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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with

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Speaker 2: Carmen Vitali. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with CARMEI.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we are so bad.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while since we've been able to say that.

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Speaker 2: I say, a lot has happened since our last show.

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Speaker 2: You've been to super Bowl, You've been to Rome, You've

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Speaker 2: been to Combine. Real quick rating of all three super

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Speaker 2: Bowl one to ten experience, the whole experience beating a.

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Speaker 4: Week week before, Yeah, week before that had to be

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Speaker 4: a that was probably a seven.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Rome.

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Speaker 3: I was sick the whole time.

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Speaker 4: But I got everything done that we needed to get done,

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Speaker 4: So that was more of a business trip.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I'm still going to give it an eight,

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Speaker 6: okay because it's Rome.

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Speaker 5: And even if I don't combine.

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Speaker 3: Uh, that's my favorite week of the year. Yeah, nine

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Speaker 3: out of time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna get to that in just

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Speaker 2: a minute, because that's kind of the consensus of every

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Speaker 2: single person in our industry, Like that is the best,

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Speaker 2: Like above, super Bowl is the best event of the

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Speaker 2: week for anyone involved in the NFL. So also the

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Speaker 2: new uh Luca Lakers or should I say Lidoncic Is

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Speaker 2: that a thing?

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Speaker 3: Boy?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Are red hot.

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Speaker 2: They just won their fifth straight game last night for

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have NBA insider Mark Medina joining us. In

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Speaker 2: about thirty minutes. We have the host of NFL and

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Speaker 2: Fox Podcast, Dave Hellman, an hour two executive producer Ian

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Speaker 5: But let's start with.

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Speaker 2: The NFL Combine, you guys, because the future of the

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Speaker 2: NFL is in Indie this week, and so was Carmen

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Speaker 2: Us And I've also heard as we said, this is

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Speaker 2: the best NFL event of the year because this is

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Speaker 2: really the one event where the entire NFL community is

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Speaker 2: in the same city. You have gms, you have coaches,

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Speaker 2: you have scouts, you have all the big execs from

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Speaker 2: each team, you have reporters, networks and the future of

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Speaker 2: the NFL. And it's different than Super Bowl because you

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Speaker 2: can really build those relationships. You can you can make

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Speaker 2: those connections, you can actually have one on one conversations

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Speaker 2: with coaches and teams and it's really where you make

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Speaker 2: your contacts for the rest of the season. So Carmen,

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Speaker 2: you were there this whole week leading up. Paint the

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Speaker 5: What's a day like?

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Speaker 2: Also like leading up to the Combine too, because everyone's

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Speaker 2: there the entire week before.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing is you see the Combine. It's currently

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Speaker 4: on TV right now. We got wide receivers running the forty. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that is less and less becoming the focus of Combine

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Speaker 4: these days, especially because there's so many players that are

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Speaker 4: now opting out of doing the workouts, those kind of

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Speaker 5: You saw what I did during the season.

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Speaker 6: I'm here for the interviews, and you'll hear every coach

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Speaker 6: and scout and personnel executive and GM say to you, Hey, honestly,

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Speaker 6: what you have to be kind of weary of is

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Speaker 6: falling in love with the guy at the combine because

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Speaker 4: They have spent weeks and weeks, if not months, training

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Speaker 4: for this. Oh yeah, that that is not necessarily the numbers.

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Speaker 4: He can't fall in love with the numbers. You have

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Speaker 4: years worth of tape, season's worth of tape on these

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Speaker 4: guys that you have your scouts combing through every every

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Speaker 4: kind of summarize that. That goes to the next level

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Speaker 4: of personnel departments and then up from there. What the

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Speaker 4: combine is really good for is what you alluded to, Alex,

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Speaker 4: which is the relationships. It's not just media relationships with coaches, scouts, GMS.

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Speaker 4: It is the relationships between these players and these.

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Speaker 5: Prospects and these teams.

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Speaker 4: Because this is just kind of a car wash interviews

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Speaker 4: also a whole kind of underbelly of free agency talk

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Speaker 4: that's not supposed to talk happen, but it does happen.

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Speaker 2: We already got breaking news yesterday, Rams and Stafford coming together.

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Speaker 3: And then Travis Kelsey said he was kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Going to get breaking news during this week too, And.

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Speaker 4: That's not a coincidence. No, Like all of these conversations

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Speaker 5: Like everyone's in the same place.

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Speaker 3: They're in the.

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Speaker 4: Same place and they are all talking with each other

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Speaker 4: at this point. So it's an incredible week leading up

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Speaker 4: to it. I got there on Monday, I left on Thursday,

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Speaker 4: and people are like, what did you lay before drills?

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Speaker 2: Everyone's like now like focusing paying attention the week before,

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Speaker 2: similar to Super Bowl. This is when everyone's out at

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Speaker 3: There are there is there is media row.

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Speaker 4: There is at Combine, which I was a part of,

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Speaker 4: and we interviewed a bunch of people including you know,

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Speaker 4: And so there's those formal interviews where you get to

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Speaker 3: One on one.

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Speaker 4: But yes, the biggest part of being able to go

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Speaker 3: Yes, it happens at the bars, at the bar, the

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Speaker 4: You go get coffee with people, you go to dinner,

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Speaker 4: Prime forty seven until four o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 5: So my voice.

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Speaker 3: You guys can probably hear it ever a good time.

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Speaker 2: That's sound great, you said, like, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: my voice is gonna sound fabulous.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm glad because I.

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Speaker 5: Haven't heard your voice in like two three weeks.

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Speaker 3: So I know, h it was.

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Speaker 4: It's a great time always, and then you also have

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Speaker 4: the Saint Elmos Steakhouse trip or trips. In my case,

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Speaker 4: I think I went there twice.

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Speaker 2: It's on my bucket list. I need to make out

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Speaker 2: to Combine. I can't say.

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Speaker 4: Well more than twenty five to thirty feet without running

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Speaker 4: It's it's a wonderful, wonderful week.

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Speaker 2: Cynthia Frielan has been like raving about this for years,

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Speaker 2: like just come in my suitcase, stay in my room,

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Speaker 5: It's like, okay, done, please. You were the perfect person.

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Speaker 3: I think is the busiest woman at the Combine.

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Speaker 2: She's on the field right now. I think she's the

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Speaker 4: I saw her on Tuesday or Wednesday when she got there,

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Speaker 4: this woman does not stop no, but we love her.

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Speaker 5: We love that.

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Speaker 2: So it's basically the weekend for the players is like

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Speaker 2: the longest running job interview possible and imaginable, as you

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Speaker 2: sprouted and it's insane. It's insane, like it's a lot,

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Speaker 2: but it's also the last opportunity for these players to

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Speaker 4: It's the people in the prospects that the combine is

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Speaker 4: the later round the day two, day three guys where

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Speaker 4: all right, maybe you know you could you could beef

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Speaker 4: in these informals and the formal meetings, or if your

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Speaker 4: medical evaluation shows that your arms are longer than most,

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Speaker 4: you can absolutely add to.

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Speaker 3: Your stock there.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's for those guys that are like top

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Speaker 3: But like I said, this was a like the combine

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Speaker 4: Really good area for you to kind of do the

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Speaker 4: preliminary talks and the preliminary conversations are saying.

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Speaker 3: Do we really need to bring him in? Maybe we don't.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a ten minute conversation with him is going to

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Speaker 5: A normal conversation, right, They ask a weird thing.

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Speaker 3: It depends on the questions.

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Speaker 4: I always like talking to prospects and asking them like

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Speaker 4: the weirdest questions.

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Speaker 3: That they get.

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Speaker 4: And like I mean, they'll get everything from sat prep

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Speaker 5: They're doing, like being out.

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Speaker 4: The wilderness, and they only have these things to survive, Like,

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Speaker 4: I will get really weird because different coaches feel like

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Speaker 4: like you've seen it now on these hard knocks off

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Speaker 4: and where they will tell them of play, say how

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Speaker 4: loves he loves Kayleb Williams.

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Speaker 5: He what's not to love.

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Speaker 3: It was tangible his.

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Speaker 4: Excitement about having a quarterback like Caleb, who he hasn't had,

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Speaker 4: by the way, as a coach in the NFL. If

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Speaker 4: you think about the mobile quarterback, the athleticism, the ability

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Speaker 4: to create inside and outside of the pocket in the

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Speaker 4: offensive backfield, that is something that Ben Johnson has ever had.

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Speaker 4: And when he was talking about Caleb at the podium

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Speaker 4: in Indy this this week, his eyes were sparkling.

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Speaker 3: Alex like that.

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Speaker 4: He was just like, I've never had this guy like

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Speaker 4: he is. He is a football guy through and through.

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Speaker 4: He is a total nerd.

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Speaker 2: But it also was fun, as we saw with his

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Speaker 2: like crazy trick plays is here.

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Speaker 4: He has fun. But that comes later. And that's the

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Speaker 4: biggest thing that I am going to again, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I always try to temper.

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Speaker 5: Expectations and we're like, no, right now, it needs to

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Speaker 5: be great.

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Speaker 4: The Bears fans are not easily temperable, but they're not.

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Speaker 3: They're not very temperate.

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Speaker 1: They don't have it.

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Speaker 5: They don't patience, No.

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Speaker 3: They will and they don't they shouldn't. But I'm like

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Speaker 3: my decade somehow, every single off season, they end up

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Speaker 3: with these sky high expectations and I'm like, can we.

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Speaker 2: Just well, I mean, when you get the number one

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Speaker 2: overall pick and there were such high expectations about Caleb

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Speaker 2: Williams and then now you got the best head coach

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Speaker 2: on the market in Ben Johnson, I get it.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of excitement. Now we just need to

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Speaker 5: live up to.

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Speaker 3: The I need.

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Speaker 4: I need people to understand though, that this isn't going

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Speaker 4: to happen right away, Like it's not you're not going

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Speaker 4: to get the fun ship plays whatever.

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson and Ryan Poles, when I got to talk.

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Speaker 4: To him, Yeah, both of them emphasize the first of all,

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Speaker 4: they emphasize emphasize the same things. So like it's very

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Speaker 4: clear that Ryan and Ben are on the same page.

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Speaker 4: I heard the same thing from Ryan when we were

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Speaker 4: talking to him one on one that I did from

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Speaker 4: Ben at the podium, Like same words, same kind of mentality.

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Speaker 4: But they're both of their mentalities is we're stripping this

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Speaker 4: down to the studs. We're starting from ground zero. We're

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Speaker 4: going to start building this foundation where it should be,

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Speaker 4: and a foundation, you know from building a house. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's not sexy, it's not a sexy.

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Speaker 3: Part of building the house. It's not the fun marble.

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Speaker 5: It's not the little contra vision what the future is

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Speaker 5: going to look like.

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 4: It's it's very much plain, simple, solid, and that is

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Speaker 4: what that is what Ben Johnson is going to bring

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Speaker 4: to this team. Okay, and he should have and does

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Speaker 4: have the full support of Ryan Poles and so it's

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Speaker 4: not going to look that fun yet. And the biggest

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Speaker 4: thing too, that's my biggest question mark going into this

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Speaker 4: is talking to players that have been coached by Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 4: talking to coaches that have coached with him, some of

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Speaker 4: which have gone over now to the Bears with him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, big, he's tough, he is intense. That's a good

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Speaker 5: thing he is not.

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Speaker 4: I found there had to be a buffer when when

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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson first took over as offensive coordinator in Detroit. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there had to be a buffer between him and Jared

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Speaker 4: Goff because they not that he couldn't handle it. It's

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Speaker 4: just that Ben is super intense and Jared has was

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Speaker 4: was a veteran even at that point. So you have

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Speaker 4: these guys that are kind of they have the way

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Speaker 4: that they do things, and because Ben is so intense,

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Speaker 4: he needed a buffer to kind of translate what he

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Speaker 4: was trying to say to Jared. Now that relationship blossomed

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Speaker 4: over time. Yeah, it became a really really good one

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Speaker 4: this last year. I mean, Jared would always tell him

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Speaker 4: to go, didn't want him to go, would always talk

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Speaker 4: about would always talk about how much Ben has done

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Speaker 4: for him as a player. I mean, Jared Goff has

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Speaker 4: been playing the best football. Like the reward of being

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Speaker 4: coached by Ben Johnson is playing the best football of

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Speaker 4: your career. It doesn't It doesn't mean it's easy. It

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean that it's fun. It's not necessarily fun, and

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Speaker 4: it's not gonna be fun right away. But if you

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Speaker 4: also take, you know, look back at to what Caleb

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Speaker 4: Williams himself has said verbatim with all of you know,

533
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Speaker 4: his offensive coordinator gets fired, Matt Eberflus gets fired. Caleb

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Speaker 4: Williams says, I want to be coached harder, I want

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Speaker 4: to be coached tough. And I'm like, all right, be

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Speaker 4: careful what you wish for, because Ben Johnson's going to

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Speaker 4: come in there and do that. And I really hope

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Speaker 4: that he responds in the way that he says he's

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Speaker 4: going to because Caleb is also very He's not shy

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Speaker 4: about saying like, not everybody can coach me, and to.

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Speaker 2: This feels like it's going to be a little spicy Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he's going to chow spicy.

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Speaker 5: Relationship, which if you welcome that, you're going to be

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Speaker 5: just fine.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the biggest question mark I have is are both.

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Speaker 5: Saying we should up our ex mouation.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, it's gonna baby might not look great.

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Speaker 4: Need I remind you first year under Dan Campbell, Granted

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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson wasn't the offensive coordinator yet, but first year

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Speaker 4: under Dan Campbell, the Lions went three thirteen and one.

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Speaker 5: That No, the Bear's got to be better. They have

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Speaker 5: more talent, any.

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Speaker 2: Better than a tenth overall pick. We'll save that for

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Speaker 2: another day. But now let's check in with Martin Wise

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Speaker 2: and see what's trending.

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Speaker 8: We've got two games going on in the NHL right now.

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Speaker 9: With fourteen twenty three left in the second period, Boston

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Speaker 9: has a two to nothing lead over Pittsburgh, and with

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Speaker 9: eleven minutes left in the second period, Florida.

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Speaker 8: Has a one nothing lead over Calgary the Flames.

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Speaker 9: In college basketball right now, number five Tennessee and I

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Speaker 9: was sixth Alabama going at it the Volunteers with an

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Speaker 9: eighteen to sixteen lead over the Crimson tie with eleven

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Speaker 9: minutes left in the first half.

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Speaker 8: At the half.

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Speaker 9: Number oh sorry, number twenty four, Missippi State is trailing

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Speaker 9: els thirty seven to thirty five. LSU is only three

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Speaker 9: and twelve in the SEU play. They're not They're terrible.

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Speaker 9: The women are got that almost always, almost always. Seventh

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Speaker 9: thranks Saint john right now with a sixty three to

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Speaker 9: fifty eight lead over at Seaton Hall. Saint John's sixteen

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Speaker 9: and two in conference play, twenty five and four overall,

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Speaker 9: three point fifteen left in the second half there against

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Speaker 9: sixty three.

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Speaker 8: To fifty eight to score.

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Speaker 9: Earlier today we saw Auburn clinch SEC title. They beat

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Speaker 9: Kentucky ninety four to seventy eight. Auburn twenty seven and two,

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Speaker 9: number one team in the nation. Tenth rank Texas Tech

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Speaker 9: beat Kansas seventy eight to seventy three. Thirteenth ran Clemson

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Speaker 9: over Virginia seventy one to fifty eight, and sixteenth rength

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Speaker 9: Maryland beat Penn State sixty eight to sixty four.

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Speaker 8: Ladies, back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Martin. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 2: Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the tark dot Com studios in Los Angeles. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. It is

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Speaker 2: time for our first guest, NBA insider Mark Diana. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for joining the show.

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Speaker 10: Alex Carmen, thanks for having me. Always fun talking MBA

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Speaker 10: with you.

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Speaker 2: Oh what a week for Luca and the Lakers. Five

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Speaker 2: straight wins is now one eleven of the last thirteen,

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Speaker 2: fourth in the West. Are the Lakers now true contenders

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Speaker 2: with Luca and Lebron?

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Speaker 10: I was actually just about to say that, Alex. I'm

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Speaker 10: not putting them as championship favorite, but I'm putting them

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Speaker 10: in the championship contending conversation. Yeah, and that's a huge step.

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Speaker 3: It's huge.

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Speaker 10: I thought prior to the Luca Dongons trade, their ceiling

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Speaker 10: was second round at best, Yeah, and at worst playing

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Speaker 10: elimination or losing the first round. And that's certainly something

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Speaker 10: the Lakers aren't about, because not only are they about

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Speaker 10: winning championships, when you look at the last season, you

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Speaker 10: know they get bounced to the Denver Nuggets in the

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Speaker 10: first round. This idea that they would just be content

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Speaker 10: with laying a playoff team and nothing else doesn't sit well.

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Speaker 10: But I think as of Bertains to Luca, this obviously

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Speaker 10: was a huge trade, obvious reasons why they did it,

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Speaker 10: but it was more of a long term play with

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Speaker 10: saying themselves up to have that next superstar, especially once

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Speaker 10: Lebron James retired, and they thought maybe short term they

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Speaker 10: take some lumps because they're struggling defensively, but as you mentioned,

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Speaker 10: they've been a really top defensive team and the Luca

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Speaker 10: magic and the chemistry is real in all front so

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Speaker 10: put them in that window.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that.

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Speaker 4: Was my biggest thing is it seems a little redundant

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Speaker 4: right now, but you're talking long term play, but.

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Speaker 3: For this short term I think I'm more.

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Speaker 4: Interested though, in how did two get along off the

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Speaker 4: court or who? You know? This is Lebron's team. It's

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Speaker 4: still Lebron's team as long as Lebron's on it. But

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Speaker 4: then you inject this superstar who that team in Dallas

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Speaker 4: belonged to Luca, So now you've got two superstars on

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Speaker 4: the same team. Who takes a backseat is that. Have

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Speaker 4: you seen any sort of friction there. I'm very curious

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Speaker 4: to see how these egos are clashing.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no friction yet I've seen nothing but positive signs.

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Speaker 10: I think the best example was before Luka Doncis's debut,

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Speaker 10: where Lebron James you know, told him to you know,

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Speaker 10: decide what he wants to do with starting lineup intros

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Speaker 10: and Luca you know uh said about, hey, I'd like

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Speaker 10: to be called last, but moving forward, Lebron will take

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Speaker 10: that mantle. And this might sound like a big deal.

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Speaker 10: Who cares? NBA players care about that stuff, you know,

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Speaker 10: it's one of many symbols on what they mean to

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Speaker 10: the team, their status, et cetera. But Lebron James's message

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Speaker 10: about don't worry about fitting in fitting out, this shows

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Speaker 10: that he obviously has respect for Luca and I think

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Speaker 10: unlike past years when Lebron would say, yeah, I want

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Speaker 10: to have a point guard that handles the offense, runs

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Speaker 10: the plays, I don't I can move off the ball,

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Speaker 10: and then he would decide to change his mind. Well,

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Speaker 10: the reason is the person Russell Westbrook, D'Angel Russell not

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Speaker 10: the same kyleiber players as Luka Donci jag. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: I'm not to say everything's going to be perfect, but

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Speaker 10: I think that when you're looking at all the potential

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Speaker 10: concerns Lebron Luca dynamic is of the least of them

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Speaker 10: because they're the best talent, and I think that from

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Speaker 10: a chemistry standpoint, they work really well. I think moving forward,

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Speaker 10: it's about to what degree can the rest of the

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Speaker 10: supporting task sustain their level of effort as well as

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Speaker 10: what they can do defensively, because the defense part it's

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Speaker 10: really hard to wrap my head around. They don't have

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Speaker 10: any size besides Jacks and Hayes, but they're going all

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Speaker 10: out with effort to make up for it, and so far,

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Speaker 10: so good, But you do wonder can you just keep

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Speaker 10: that up for the rest of the season in the playoffs.

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Speaker 10: Those are the question marks I have. But with Luca

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Speaker 10: and Lebron, it's going to be nothing but magic, I

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Speaker 10: think moving forward.

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Speaker 5: I agree.

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Speaker 2: It also helps that Lebron had shared previously that Luca

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Speaker 2: was his favorite player in the league and he kind

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Speaker 2: of looks like a little kid in a candy store.

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Speaker 2: But it was also a very emotional week for Luca

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Speaker 2: after that MAVs game on Tuesday, Lucas said he was

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Speaker 2: relieved to have kind of that first matchup behind him.

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Speaker 2: Does it feel, and I mean you're around the team daily,

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Speaker 2: does it feel like Luca is kind of over that

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Speaker 2: shock of the trade?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that he has gone through all this,

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Speaker 10: you know, the different stages of grief, and not to

675
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Speaker 10: say that it's ever going to be over. I think

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Speaker 10: that the most painful and emotionally charged moments are behind him,

677
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Speaker 10: of trying to come to grips with getting traded. You know,

678
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Speaker 10: even though he led them in the finals last year,

679
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Speaker 10: he was seen as that next generational star that would

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Speaker 10: stay with that franchise like Dirt Novitski did for twenty

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Speaker 10: one years.

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Speaker 3: They thought there was going up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in Dallas, they thought there was going to be

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Speaker 4: another statute next to Dirk's.

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Speaker 10: Yeah exactly. I mean they should still have that because

686
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Speaker 10: of what he meant, but I doubt that'll happen now.

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Speaker 10: But I think those are the two main pillars. Now,

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Speaker 10: let's look down the line. If the Wakers have his

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Speaker 10: face off in the playoffs, there's obviously going to be

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Speaker 10: a lot of motion here. But I think that the

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Speaker 10: emotion for the most parts, for the good because as Luca,

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Speaker 10: he's a competitor. You want that edginess, and so I

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Speaker 10: don't think the Lakers are saying, you know what, like

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Speaker 10: we don't want that emotion, because that's what makes him great. Now.

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Speaker 10: I think where the potential trouble could be is if

696
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Speaker 10: he's trying to make it all about himself and having

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Speaker 10: a good performance at the expense of the team. But

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Speaker 10: as we saw against Dallas, it was Lebron and Luca

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Speaker 10: running the show, and so they really did a good

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Speaker 10: job of playing off each other.

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Speaker 4: And I want to ask a little bit more about

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Speaker 4: thanneddy Gritty here. How is Luca recovering? He's still working

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Speaker 4: through that calf issue. Is he how close to one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent is he? And what have you seen from

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Speaker 4: him just kind of even outside of games with his

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Speaker 4: recovery process.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they don't put exact percentages, So what I say

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Speaker 10: that this is just my own assumption intuition. He's not

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Speaker 10: one hundred percent. I don't think he'll ever be one

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Speaker 10: hundred percent this season, but I think that the conditioning

711
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Speaker 10: concerns are behind him. He's no longer on minutes restrictions.

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Speaker 10: I think it was a telling sign that he did

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Speaker 10: play last night against the Clippers, because back to back.

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Speaker 10: They're originally holding him out on back to backs, but

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Speaker 10: you know, they're still a work in progress. His shooting,

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Speaker 10: especially from the outside, has still been up and down.

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Speaker 10: But I think that compared to everything else where, he

718
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Speaker 10: was trying to learn the playbook, trying to get acclamy

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Speaker 10: to the Lakers, get over the shock of the trade.

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Speaker 10: All the potential challenging parts are behind him. Now it's

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Speaker 10: about with the Lakers, how does everyone else around him adjust.

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Speaker 10: I think Lebron, you know, because of what we've said

723
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Speaker 10: and what we've seen, that's going to be fine. But

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Speaker 10: the next two questions are and role players sustain their

725
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Speaker 10: strong level play. Really hatcham More is out now with

726
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Speaker 10: an injury, and there's show projected timetable and again the defense.

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Speaker 10: They're playing an elite level right now because of their effort,

728
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Speaker 10: but at some point you can't help. But wonder does

729
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Speaker 10: the lack of size catch up to them? And I

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Speaker 10: say that with full support of what they did to

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Speaker 10: trade Anthony Davis to get Luca Dacis because of how

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Speaker 10: special a player he is. But there's no way around it.

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Speaker 10: Ad with the defensive Player of the Year candidate, and

734
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Speaker 10: they took a back seat because of his departure with

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Speaker 10: that on the defensive front.

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Speaker 2: Now you mentioned the conditioning, and there were so many

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Speaker 2: reports about the MAVs concerns about Luca leading up to

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Speaker 2: the trade, citing his love of beer and hookah as

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Speaker 2: well as his weight management, lack of professionalism. It feels

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Speaker 2: silly and it feels like that was like some sort

741
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Speaker 2: of like there's more to the story. Yeah, on the

742
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Speaker 2: MAVs side, But it doesn't seem like the Lakers have

743
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Speaker 2: any concerns with any of that with Luca, do they?

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Speaker 10: Well they I think they have concerns, but I think

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Speaker 10: it's all relative and put in perspective. When I asked

746
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Speaker 10: Luka Doncic about how he viewed that criticism on his

747
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 10: way out, he said it was a source of motivation,

748
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Speaker 10: but he mostly saw that it was not true. I

749
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Speaker 10: thought it was telling that. Rob Palinka then interjected and said,

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Speaker 10: you know, when you're talking about the great the all

751
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 10: time greats, so you know there's always ways to still,

752
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 10: you know, find ways to improve to make sure that

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Speaker 10: you're the best version of yourself. So what I'm paraphrasing

754
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 10: but his essential message was, yeah, he can improve in that,

755
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Speaker 10: but it's not enough of a concern because even if

756
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Speaker 10: he's not going to be seen as the same example

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Speaker 10: as how Lebron James is taking care of his body,

758
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Speaker 10: he still is performing at a high level. And he's

759
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Speaker 10: only twenty six, so a lot of these conditioning issues

760
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Speaker 10: they don't really become issues until you hit your early

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Speaker 10: mid thirties as a professional athlete. And I think in

762
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Speaker 10: the short term, the Lakers view it this way. He's

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Speaker 10: under their umbrella. They can instruct him. Lebron James is

764
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Speaker 10: a model they can ship away at some of those weaknesses.

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Speaker 10: And I think here's another example to tie it in

766
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Speaker 10: with the Lakers, even someone like Kobe who is a

767
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Speaker 10: model of work ethic and cared about his body. When

768
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Speaker 10: he scored eighty one points and it was the prime

769
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Speaker 10: of his career, his pregame diet that day was Pepperoni

770
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Speaker 10: pizza in great soda. And the reason why is it

771
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Speaker 10: didn't matter at that point, Yes, because and he's still

772
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Speaker 10: young that he can burn off those calories without issue.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean there were stories of Michael Jordan, like playing

775
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Speaker 2: two rounds of golf smoking right before his game like the.

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Speaker 3: Stars of our youth. Yeah, the lucky Stars.

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Speaker 2: That a thing like insane, Mark, thank you so much.

778
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Speaker 2: We appreciate all this insight real quick. Austin Reeves, how

779
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Speaker 2: long do you expect him to be out?

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Speaker 10: Uh that we don't know, Uh, stay tuned, same thing. Yeah,

781
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 10: but yeah, that's those are the concerns the Lakers have,

782
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 10: big ones. Haluca is a good fallback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great one. Okay, thank you so much.

784
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Speaker 2: Enjoy the game tomorrow night. All right, when we come back,

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Speaker 2: you guys, it's the dudes and the Dunton Sports. You're

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Speaker 2: listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

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Speaker 2: with Carmen Itally. We are broadcasting live from the tart

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending

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Speaker 2: your Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 4: I know, man, should I'd be staring at a cloud

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Speaker 4: and like, you know, wearing baggy jeans.

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Speaker 3: Good guy.

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Speaker 5: I went to two.

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Speaker 2: They did like a prime like a fire relief show

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Speaker 2: at the Palladium, which is like three thousand people.

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Speaker 11: It was.

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Speaker 2: They were like we usually sell out stadiums like they

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Speaker 2: sold out so fi They're like, so it's nice playing

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Speaker 2: this little shoe box with all of you guys.

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Speaker 5: So it was, Oh, that was so cool and like major.

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Speaker 4: From what I've heard, they have not changed as far

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Speaker 4: as they are show that they put off.

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Speaker 5: They are rawch I haven't.

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Speaker 2: That was my first time seeing them live and I

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Speaker 2: was like kept looking at my husband like.

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Speaker 5: Oh, okay, it's one of these. I love it. Don't

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Speaker 5: ever stop.

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Speaker 2: And that leads us to the dues and the don'ts

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Speaker 2: in sports highlight.

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Speaker 7: I love that putting a spotlight on the don't.

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Speaker 5: The subject brings me no joy.

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Speaker 3: Don't that's insane.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the dues and the dots in sports.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta do, okay, do take that shot and

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Speaker 2: make that shot. Recently, a college student, Blake, a Texas

818
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Speaker 2: Tech student, nailed the most insane ninety foot putt on

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Speaker 2: the hardwood at a recent basketball game. Now Patrick Mahomes

820
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Speaker 2: happened to be their court side his alma mater, and

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Speaker 2: celebrated with the fan like jumped up shoulder bump.

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Speaker 5: Blake has had quite the week.

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Speaker 2: He was on the Today Show talking about the shot,

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Speaker 2: where Patrick Mahomes sent in a video message to tell

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Speaker 2: him that Texas Tech Athletics was going to pay his

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Speaker 2: tuition next year. Absolutely insane, and Mahomes made the kid

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Speaker 2: a member of his NIL programs have sent him like

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Speaker 2: all this insane swag, but like a ninety.

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Speaker 3: That is on the hardwood quite the feet of athleticism.

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Speaker 6: So he's a student athlete, he is, they're paying their

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Speaker 6: pay for his stuition.

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Speaker 3: He's a student athlete. He's got an IL money.

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Speaker 5: It's like insane.

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Speaker 4: When I was working for Arizona's athletics in college, I

835
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Speaker 4: was technically labeled because I had a stipend a student athlete,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, nope.

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Speaker 3: But hey, I got priority on my class schedule and.

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Speaker 5: All that other stuffing.

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Speaker 4: Uh mine is do back your sources because we haven't

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Speaker 4: talked about this yet. Guys, Indy, there were some insider

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Speaker 4: wars in Indy. Jordan in Rappaport got into it. Got

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Speaker 4: into it at my hotel Starbucks. I'm so mad I

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Speaker 4: missed it. I literally padded would miss them by like

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Speaker 4: maybe an hour. They got into it after conflicting reports

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Speaker 4: about Tom Brady and Matthew Staffer potentially meeting up in

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Speaker 4: Montana at a private community like residential community when they

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Speaker 4: all belonged to.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 4: There was there was security was called, there were things

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Speaker 4: that were happening, But hey, I appreciate both these guys

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Speaker 4: going going to bat.

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Speaker 3: For their sources.

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Speaker 5: Hilarious.

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Speaker 4: It was it was the talk of the combine hilarious outside.

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Speaker 3: Of anything else. I think that was what people wanted

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Speaker 3: to hear about more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely was all right, don't ever stop being a

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Speaker 2: kid at home show. Hey, Otani and Dodger's manager Dave

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Speaker 2: Roberts have had the most hilarious back and forth pranks.

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Speaker 5: Going on since last year.

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Speaker 2: And it kind of started at Spring when Otani got

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Speaker 2: Joe Kelly a Porsche as.

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Speaker 5: A thank you for giving him number.

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Speaker 3: That's not a prank.

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Speaker 4: Someone is welcome to play that pran No, no, So this was.

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Speaker 5: Like how it started.

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Speaker 2: Got him a Porsche basically for his wife as like

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Speaker 2: a thank you for giving me number seventeen, and Dave

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Speaker 2: Roberts was like, hey, I want one too, so a

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Speaker 2: Tani started giving him these toy Porsches, and last year

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Speaker 2: it was like he would just kind of put him

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Speaker 2: all over the places for Dave.

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Speaker 3: This year, at.

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Speaker 2: Spring, Otani removed Dave's car from his parking spot, like

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Speaker 2: hid his car and put this like little kid Porsche

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Speaker 2: that you like sit, not even that when you sit

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Speaker 2: on your feet, not even that one yet. That's probably

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Speaker 2: the next one when that you sit and you have

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Speaker 2: to like move your legs. So Dave came back that

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Speaker 2: was a couple of weeks ago yesterday and filled Otani's

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Speaker 2: car like it was a ball pit and every ball

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Speaker 2: had a face of Dave Roberts on it.

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Speaker 5: So we opened his door and all the balls fell

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Speaker 5: out of.

885
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: His car and they've just been going back and forth

886
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: and it's beautiful.

887
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 5: Please don't stop.

888
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 4: That's hey, listen, Like I said, please, I won the

889
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 4: actual porch though, yeah, actual porch. Right, do under promise

890
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 4: and over deliver. Don't over promise then under deliver, Okay.

891
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: Wide Receiver Isaiah Bond this happened today. Earlier in the week,

892
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: was like, hey, I'm gonna run a four to one

893
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 4: forty yard dah, I'm gonna break break combine record.

894
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: You want to know what he ran it? He run

895
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: four point four one on this first run.

896
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 4: He got food, guys, you got food at Lucas Oil

897
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: running and like a four four one.

898
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 3: Is a great time.

899
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 5: It is. But when you like talk the talk, he

900
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 5: gotta walkta.

901
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: Walk a walk.

902
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Marcus Golden, I believe he ended up. He ran

903
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: slower than his teammate, so not he didn't even run

904
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 4: the fastest.

905
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 10: TV.

906
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: So that's guys.

907
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 5: Just don't say it.

908
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: Just don't say it. That's all.

909
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 5: Show up and deliver, Show up and deliver. All right,

910
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 5: when we come back.

911
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: How far can Luca and Lebron's Lakers go this season?

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to our two of Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex

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Speaker 2: Curry here with Common Batali. Thank you for spending your

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Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon with Carmeie and me. Welcome to the football

917
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Speaker 2: off season, which really isn't totally the off season yet

918
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: because there's so much happening. The quarterback dominoes are about

919
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: to fall since Rams and Stafford reached that agreement, and

920
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: now the rest of the quarterbacks on the market should

921
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Speaker 2: start to fall into place. We'll get into that a

922
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Speaker 2: little later this hour. And if yeah, we're also the

923
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Speaker 2: future of the NFL is in Indie and the entire

924
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Speaker 2: NFL family at the combine right now.

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Speaker 5: The draft is coming up.

926
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Speaker 2: We talked about that a lot in the first hour,

927
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Speaker 2: so if you miss that, you can listen to our

928
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Speaker 2: podcast once we get off the air. The other sports

929
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: are about to heat up to NBA back half. We're

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Speaker 2: going to dive into one of the most exciting teams

931
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Speaker 2: in just a moment.

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Speaker 5: Also, baseball is back.

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Speaker 2: You guys show how Tawny hit an opposite field home

934
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Speaker 2: run in his first at bat at spring training yesterday,

935
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Speaker 2: So he's picking up right where you left off.

936
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Speaker 5: La fans, you gotta be happy.

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Speaker 3: Just do it, do it.

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Speaker 5: Please, just do it?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 2: We also have the host of NFL and Fox podcast,

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Speaker 2: Dave Hellman, joining us in about thirty minutes.

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Speaker 4: He was also at the combine, sure, and then he

958
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 4: wrote a whole really well timed thing about how Matthew

959
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 4: Stafford shouldn't go anywhere.

960
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 5: Did he have insider information? Does he know?

961
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: All right, but let's start in the NBA with one

962
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: of the most exciting teams. I also maybe bias the

963
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: new Luca and Lebron Lakers or Ledoncic and the Lakers.

964
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I saw that somewhere or if

965
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: I made it up, but I'm rolling.

966
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 5: With it, and I kind of love it.

967
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: Luca to the Lakers is going to reignite the NBA ratings.

968
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: The league is better when your biggest franchises are great,

969
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: and they were having rating issues, not just this season,

970
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: seasons past, and everybody wants to watch this magic right now.

971
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: And Lakers are red hot. They've won eleven of the

972
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: last thirteen. Last night they made it five straight wins

973
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: on Luca's twenty sixth birthday, So happy belated birthday, Luca.

974
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 5: Lakers are now fourth in the West, inching closer to

975
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 5: that third spot you got.

976
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: Oksee at first, they've their own one against the Thunder

977
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: this year, they got Memphis at two. They're two and

978
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: one against the Grizzes this year, and they got Denver

979
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 2: at three and they're one and one against the Nuggets.

980
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: So this is matchup really fun. Like these are the

981
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: teams that now I'm confident the Lakers could be in

982
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: a seven game series.

983
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 5: You're quick with Luca, Oh, I am so confident.

984
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: Like every game Luc and Lebron have played together, they

985
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: just keep getting better and the smile on Lebron's face.

986
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: We talked about this with Mark Medina. You asked him

987
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: about like what the chemistry's like. Yeah, both having these

988
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: big superstars like now on this same team. Lebron has

989
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: been extremely vocal. Back in twenty nineteen, he was talking

990
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: about how Luca was his favorite new player in the league.

991
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 5: He wanted to play with him, was trying to get

992
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 5: him like.

993
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: Game apparently, and like so.

994
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: If you watch video of Lebron, like his his energy,

995
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: his reactions the week before getting Luca, and then the

996
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: week after getting Luca. I haven't seen that kind of

997
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: smile on Lebron's face since he's won a championship. Lebron

998
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: does not look like the forty year old player on

999
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: the court right now. He he this kind of gave

1000
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: him like that second wind towards the back end of

1001
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: his career, and you not only see it on the court,

1002
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: but you can hear it in his voice and you

1003
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: can see it in his excitement when he talks about

1004
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: the team and when he talks about Luca.

1005
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 5: But there was also.

1006
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Speaker 2: This has been a very emotional and I think telling

1007
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: a week the Lakers because Luca played his former team

1008
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: on Tuesday at Crypto. I was there, and let me

1009
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: tell you, Crypto felt it felt like a playoff atmosphere,

1010
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: like there was a different level of excitement and intensity

1011
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: obviously because of everything that went down between Luca and

1012
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: the MAVs, And there was a lot of emotion from Luca,

1013
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: like seeing his former really just seeing everybody for the

1014
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: first time since everything went down. There was like the

1015
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: thank you for Ad who's still hurt not playing, which

1016
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: was like heartbreaking.

1017
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 5: Because when Ad is healthy, he's so good.

1018
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: But also extremely on brand for him playing in this

1019
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: first game with the MAVs and having the most insane

1020
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: first half and then getting injured in the second half,

1021
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: and he's out now for weeks. But like Luca recorded

1022
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: his first triple double as a Laker, and since it

1023
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: was against his former team, he became only the third

1024
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: player to record triple doubles against every NBA franchise in

1025
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: the process. But again, Luca's tone after the game and

1026
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: his post game conference wasn't like excitement.

1027
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 5: It was like.

1028
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 3: Repent.

1029
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 4: You spend your entire career up until this point, and

1030
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: you've gone through so many highs and lows with that team,

1031
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 4: and then it's not your decision. It's one thing if

1032
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 4: he decided to leave in free agency and go elsewhere

1033
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 4: or whatever. This was not his decision.

1034
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: It was a trade no, and it came seemingly out

1035
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 3: of nowhere.

1036
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 4: And from everything we've heard, it's not that it doesn't

1037
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 4: sound like Luca had a huge heads up on any

1038
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 4: of this.

1039
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: Zero and usually playing that caliber or face of the franchise,

1040
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: you get some sort of a hat gap.

1041
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: You dictated everything.

1042
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: Think about the way Lebron James has moved throughout his career.

1043
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: It's everything has been calculated because it's been on his terms,

1044
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 4: even if it was a trade, yeah, if whatever. Yeah,

1045
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: I do think that a lot of the excitement on

1046
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 4: Lebron's part is probably because of the fact that now

1047
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: he doesn't have to do all of the heavy lifting

1048
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 4: to play, making the ball handling.

1049
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: You can pick and choose his spots a little bit more,

1050
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: which is very important. Pressure forty years old, The pressure

1051
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: is off his shit. It's just it's just nice to

1052
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 3: feel be like, all right, you go this.

1053
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 4: But I will say I think there is there's there's

1054
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: a novelty to it right now because it's new.

1055
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 3: You know, Luca's a shiny new.

1056
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: Toy for la It's still only well it's I guess

1057
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: it's March now, March first, it's still only March. I

1058
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 4: do expect there's still to be an EBB and a

1059
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 4: flow because, like we talked about with Mark Mandina, the

1060
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 4: Lakers needed more when it came to defense. Yes, they

1061
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 4: traded away their top defender for however unavailable he has

1062
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 4: been in the past.

1063
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 5: Anthony Davis.

1064
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you now you have two superstars and you have

1065
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: all offense, and that's fine right now, that's fine at

1066
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: this point in the season. Nobody's playing defense at this point.

1067
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna be very interested to see if the

1068
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: tenor of their relate of Lebron and Luca's relationship changes,

1069
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: or the tenor of the Lakers in general changes once

1070
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 4: you start getting closer to playoff basketball, where you do

1071
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 4: start playing defense and you do start seeing teams kind

1072
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 4: of try and box you up and all of that. Like,

1073
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: this is going to be very interesting to see how

1074
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: it ends up materializing down the stretch when we get

1075
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 4: into basketball that really does matter, because, yeah, right now,

1076
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: it's exciting. He's a superstar. This trade came out of nowhere.

1077
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 4: You don't see guys change hands like this, like those

1078
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: type of guys change hands. Oh, especially going to a

1079
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: high profile team where they were this close with Lebron

1080
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: and they still made the postseason all that other stuff.

1081
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 4: But now you have a real true superstar for now

1082
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 4: and the future, even when Lebron is off of this team. Yeah,

1083
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: that's all really exciting right now because the possibilities seem endless.

1084
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 4: But once we get to the reality of it, does

1085
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 4: that change anything.

1086
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: That's going to be very interesting for me.

1087
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: I think the bottom line for me is the Lakers

1088
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: are significantly better now with Luca any team.

1089
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: That would have gotten Lucatashashi, Yeah, significantly.

1090
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: And it feels like Luca is almost their comfort wise.

1091
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 2: I mean, we were talking about kind of his tone

1092
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: after playing the MAVs on Tuesday, and he said, he said,

1093
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: there's a lot of emotions.

1094
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 5: I didn't sleep. I can't really explain it. It was

1095
00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 5: just different.

1096
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: I'm just glad it's over, honestly, And I feel like

1097
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: that might have been kind of that final hump for

1098
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 2: him to get over, to kind of have that closure and.

1099
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: Say it's gonna take time, because like at this point,

1100
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 4: like he still needs to he needs to ask recommendations

1101
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 4: on like where to go get a smoothie, where like

1102
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 4: he's like he doesn't know the area. He doesn't know because.

1103
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 5: He's got a house in Dallas.

1104
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: He thought his future, his entire future and career was

1105
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: going to be in Dallas, and everything you got, like

1106
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: your entire life gets completely up, like turned upside down,

1107
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: which like Martin and I dove into this, like when

1108
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: the trade went down, like there is some shady stuff

1109
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: that like I feel like there's much more to the

1110
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: story there's so much he got to follow the money.

1111
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: There's there's something with these new owners. Because we heard

1112
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: Mark Cuban in twenty I think twenty twenty twenty one

1113
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: say you will find me getting a divorce from my

1114
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: wife before trade.

1115
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: Before you trade.

1116
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: Look, and I don't know if you saw him, but

1117
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: he was sitting courtside at that game.

1118
00:49:59,040 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 5: And.

1119
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: I have to imagine the painful smile he had on

1120
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: his face every time Luca drained a shot.

1121
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: Was like, I mean, he's not the majority owner. He's

1122
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 3: not the one that happen.

1123
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 2: Doesn't make the cause, doesn't make you gave up, gave

1124
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: that up, and gave that.

1125
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 5: Up, probably gave up the team.

1126
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 4: He fels kind of guilty about it because he's like, hey, Luka,

1127
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 4: if it had been up to me, I'm sorry.

1128
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I even felt bad.

1129
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: I got to point this out.

1130
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: I was thinking about it for Klay Thompson because he

1131
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 2: chose the MAVs over the Lakers last year because of Luca,

1132
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: and I just to then come to the Lakers to

1133
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 2: face him too. And he has history because of his

1134
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: dad with the Lakers, So it was just like there

1135
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: are so many other emotional things going on.

1136
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 5: In that game on Tuesday.

1137
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: It was really cool to witness, especially Anthony Davis too,

1138
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: and the thank you tribute they gave for him and

1139
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: all the fans going crazy. Also very on brand that

1140
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: he was in street clothes and not playing because he

1141
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: was injured.

1142
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: But it's just I do like what Mark said.

1143
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 4: And I was talking to you a friend of mine,

1144
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 4: he's the managing editor, the NBA managing editor for the

1145
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 4: Athletic Tyler Batiste, and we were talking about all of

1146
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 4: this and he said the exact same thing that Mark

1147
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: Udina said, where yes, like I said, any team would

1148
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 4: have been better with Luca on it does My big

1149
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 4: question is does this make the Lakers the favorite? And

1150
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 4: both of them said no. They said it doesn't make

1151
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: them the favorite, but it makes them a contender because

1152
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: we know that the West is going to be hard

1153
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 4: to get out of it, Like that's just that's how

1154
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 4: it's been the last few years. We feel like the

1155
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: East is locked up way in advance and you kind

1156
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 4: of know how things are going to fall, and then

1157
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 4: they do fall that way. In the West, it's just

1158
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: it's kind of it's the wild West. It's a little

1159
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 4: bit more of that. So I do think that they're like, again,

1160
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 4: we have to kind of see how this ends up materializing,

1161
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 4: because on paper and the possibilities and YadA, YadA, YadA

1162
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: are end list right now. But at the end of

1163
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: the day, there are other teams that are going to

1164
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: have something to say about the Lakers trying to actually

1165
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: win another championship before Lebron retires.

1166
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: Oh and how that all how easy or hard that is?

1167
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 4: I think is going to dictate how comfortable is while

1168
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 4: Lebron is still on the roster and vice versa.

1169
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think this move gets them to

1170
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: the Western Conference final, Like, that's it where I feel

1171
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: comfortable they're gonna get And it depends who they face.

1172
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: But I put my faith in a Luca Lebron combo. Again,

1173
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: if you have Austin Reeves and everyone else healthy, understanding

1174
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: that everyone else on the team has to be healthy, yeah,

1175
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: I would still put my money on those two superstars. Again,

1176
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: extremely biased over here. But another thing that I'm really

1177
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: confident about is JJ Reddick being the leader and the

1178
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: coach of this team. They've been posting a lot of

1179
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 2: his post game speeches and I mean, if you still

1180
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: don't think he is the right fit coach wise for

1181
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: the Lakers, you're just a hater at this point. And

1182
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: it feels like he has figured out kind of that

1183
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: Lebron Luca sweet spot.

1184
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 5: And they've only played seven games.

1185
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: Together, like this is still very very fresh, Like everything

1186
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: is still like Lebron said, He's like, these games are

1187
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: still dress rehearsals for us. We're still figuring each other out.

1188
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: We're still figuring out Like, yeah, it works, it's March first,

1189
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: it is.

1190
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 5: I mean what we.

1191
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: See is it like comparing to like football terms, like

1192
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: Luca is the perfect quarterback where Lebron gets to be

1193
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: the wide, fancy receiver now and all the like, like

1194
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: Luca runs the show. Takes the pressure off of Lebron

1195
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 2: to be the to be the distributor. But not only

1196
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: is it better for Lebron like on the court, but

1197
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: mentally and for the second half of his career. He's

1198
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: just rejuvenated. He just looks. You can tell the skill

1199
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: set between the two of them offensively again, offensively is

1200
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: going to fit perfectly like And the other crazy part

1201
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: is they haven't reached their full potential yet. Like, like

1202
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: I said, they've only played seven games together. They're currently

1203
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: fourth in the West behind Okay see Grizzlies, Nuggets, who

1204
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: they just beat. So the question is now, how far

1205
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: can the Lakers go in the playoffs if Luca and

1206
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: Lebron are healthy, I am confident to get to the

1207
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 2: Western Conference finals.

1208
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: It's it's hard for me say I think how far

1209
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: that they'll go in the playoffs. I think it's more

1210
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 4: I like, I look at it from seeding and you

1211
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: look at Luca basically being a one man show getting

1212
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 4: the MAVs to the fifth seed.

1213
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: He did this last year.

1214
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 5: He got them to the he got him to the finals.

1215
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm just in general, I like when I'm

1216
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 4: talking about how far Lakers are gonna go, I don't

1217
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 4: know that I'm confident in saying, because again, especially with

1218
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: these with these series and everything like that, when you

1219
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: don't have when your defense isn't locked up, That's that's

1220
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: my biggest concern because I think playoff basketball is swayed

1221
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 4: by defense. I think the age old thing across all

1222
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 4: sports is like defense can win championships, and that's I

1223
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 4: think true and even in basketball. But I do think

1224
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 4: that it's it's the five seed or above them, because

1225
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 4: if Luca single handedly can get the MAVs to the

1226
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 4: five seed. Ye, then Luca and Lebron theoretically right should

1227
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 4: be able to get you.

1228
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 5: And they're more right now.

1229
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 4: Yes, So like I think that this is like exactly

1230
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 4: where we could see them enter the playoffs. How far

1231
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 4: they go, I don't know yet, but I would expect

1232
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 4: the four seater higher. That's that's my That's where I

1233
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 4: want to come from with predictions. I'm gonna change change

1234
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 4: a little bit because.

1235
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

1236
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: I'm just a happy camper has a has a Laker

1237
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: fan as an LA sports fan because like it's fun

1238
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: to watch again. And everyone I've talked to, like around

1239
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: town is like, oh yeah, no, now I'm watching every

1240
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 2: game again.

1241
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 5: Like I said, it's gonna helps.

1242
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 3: In general right now. Yeah, we'll see.

1243
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 5: It's gonna be so fun.

1244
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna take a quick break here, but

1245
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: when we come back, the quarterback Domino effect has started

1246
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 2: and is the dynasty over in Kansas City. You're listening

1247
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday.

1248
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally coming to your

1249
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: life entire tak Com Studios in Los Angeles. Thank you

1250
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 2: for spending your Saturday afternoon with carme and me.

1251
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: I just hit a wall man, No, not yet, I know.

1252
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 5: I know that on Arab It's like I was like,

1253
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 5: what's happening?

1254
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 4: The combine is such an insane time like handle at

1255
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: both ends and.

1256
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 3: It just comes in waves.

1257
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 5: It's like I feel like you're back in college. Same

1258
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 5: with a super Bowl week.

1259
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: It's like go out as late as you can, and

1260
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 2: you have to get up and perform as early.

1261
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 3: As early as you possibly can.

1262
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 5: And don't look like you went out the night exactly.

1263
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 4: That's the thing it was. I mean, I love it

1264
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 4: because I just like I feed.

1265
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: Off that kind of stuff.

1266
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 4: But it absolutely is like college where you're expected to like, yeah,

1267
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 4: be attentive.

1268
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm not as young as I was.

1269
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 4: No, You're like, hello, there is something that happens in Indianapolis.

1270
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 4: If any of you have ever been there during this week,

1271
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 4: and you go into a dinner or you go into

1272
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 4: a bar and somehow like the time space continuum, just

1273
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 4: like like Vegas.

1274
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:42,959
Speaker 3: It's a black hole.

1275
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Vegas. Yes, you don't know what time it is.

1276
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: It can it can like eleven pm. It could be

1277
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: four in the morning.

1278
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 4: The bars in India don't close on time, and so

1279
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 4: they just like draw the curtains, so you've absolutely nooid

1280
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden you look down at your phone.

1281
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 4: You're like, it's three o'clock in the morning. Yeah, I

1282
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 4: go to bed at ten pm. Every good for you.

1283
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 5: Night al again, Carmen, I got a question.

1284
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 9: Okay, Martin, So in the times based continuum of NFL,

1285
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 9: NFL you've like location based events, Like so, I've been

1286
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 9: to the Senior Bowl and the Super Bowl.

1287
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 8: I've never been to the Combine.

1288
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: Oh, that's so funny because it's like a happy medium.

1289
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 9: I'm both right, I've experienced the Senior Bowl and somehow

1290
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 9: I'm walking through Mobile and it's three thirty.

1291
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 8: In the morning and it's like, wait a minute, I

1292
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 8: just left from this.

1293
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 9: There's only three places to be right here, and it's like,

1294
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 9: oh wait, that's Brian Flores.

1295
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: Oh Awfrome, what's up, dude? Hey, how are you awesome?

1296
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 9: Good luck with the And so I'm just wondering how

1297
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 9: and where does like the Senior Bowl experience compared to

1298
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 9: the Combine experience.

1299
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 4: Peter Bowl is just a smaller combine because it's even

1300
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 4: like Indianapolis. I I'm of I'm in the camp of

1301
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 4: like please never move the Combine from Indianapolis, like they

1302
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 4: they thought about moving into La the other year a

1303
00:57:59,000 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 4: couple of years ago.

1304
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 5: Special it's the special things.

1305
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: And I talked about it before, Like the reason that

1306
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 4: there's a vortex or like a black hole is because

1307
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 4: you never run out of people to talk to if

1308
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 4: you're connected in this industry, because like you just keep

1309
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 4: seeing everybody on the street, in the bar, at the restaurants,

1310
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 4: so like mobiles like that, because mobile is so condensed.

1311
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: The downtown is so small.

1312
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 4: And yeah, you're right, there's three places you go to,

1313
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 4: like it's like vets and then that's it basically, and

1314
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 4: that like that Wiener Schnitzel like brought worst place the

1315
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 4: habard Asher, thank you, and it was like some German

1316
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 4: like brewery whatever and like and then so the Combine

1317
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 4: instead of there being like two or three places, there's

1318
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 4: like five or six, okay, and then Super Bowl obviously

1319
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 4: it depends on where simples as right, but like there's

1320
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 4: always a centralized, you know, convention center, radio road type area.

1321
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: But I've also experienced Seener Bowl and I I experienced

1322
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 4: Singer Bowl before I experienced Combine, and thank god, because

1323
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: I did not know how to act in mobile.

1324
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: I was like, what is this?

1325
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 4: I just get to go out and run into all

1326
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 4: these people and I got my GM buying.

1327
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 5: Was so you were with the Bucks.

1328
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:06,479
Speaker 3: I was with the Bucks.

1329
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 4: O GM is like over in the corner, just buying

1330
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 4: us all shots. Yeah, And then I see like Freddy Kitchens,

1331
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 4: who was the head coach of the Cleveland Browns, like

1332
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: falling up a bar stool at the time. Jerry Jones

1333
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 4: is holding court in this back corner. The floors are

1334
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 4: literally sticky, and we're drinking out of plastic cups, and

1335
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones is like, right, it was wild, and I

1336
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 4: like didn't know how to act. I got way too

1337
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 4: drunk the first night, and then exactly and so then

1338
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 4: like the next morning, I got bailed out because practice

1339
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 4: got rained out so I don't have to go practice.

1340
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 4: And then by the time Combine rolled around in a

1341
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 4: few weeks after that, I.

1342
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 5: Was like, Okay, I got this.

1343
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 3: I got this.

1344
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 5: I got this.

1345
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 4: There's like the water, the water between each drink and likes.

1346
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 4: But it really I figured out that what happens is

1347
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 4: you just one person comes up, you start talking to them.

1348
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: Before that person leaves you, somebody else comes up and

1349
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 4: then you get pulled into that conversation.

1350
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: And so that's how time goes so quickly there.

1351
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: But it's also why it's so important for a community

1352
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: that is relationship based, all relationships. It's an incredible time

1353
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 4: and you just get to catch up with any everybody

1354
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 4: that you haven't seen in a long time, no figure

1355
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 4: out how their families are, all of that kind of stuff,

1356
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 4: because like I like to build real relationships, not transactional ones.

1357
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 4: And so it's like I love hearing about like you know,

1358
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 4: I got coaches showing me pictures of their grandkids or whatever, and.

1359
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, they're getting so big all

1360
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: this other stuff.

1361
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: That's why people But like if you're not in the

1362
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: industry and you haven't been on the road, like I try,

1363
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: I try to explain it the best I can. Your

1364
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: relationships are built on the road, whether you're like a.

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Speaker 5: Part of a team. So there's been a part of team,

1366
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 5: you don't everyone's there, yeah, exactly.

1367
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: Like that's where like the real relationships and those like

1368
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: family connections within the industry are built. Is when you're

1369
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: on the road, and these are the unique times when

1370
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 2: it's like not just the team or certain games that

1371
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: you're covering, it's like everybody all in one place, everyone's

1372
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: guards down, everyone's having a good time.

1373
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1374
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 4: And like there's all these unwritten and like unspoken rules too,

1375
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: which I've actually seen, Like hey, psa, guys, if you're

1376
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 4: an up and coming reporter and you order the combine,

1377
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 4: do not take pictures at the bar. No, don't do that.

1378
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 4: You don't report on anything you see directly. You do

1379
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 4: not take pictures. You do not take video like otherwise.

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Speaker 5: Learn hard.

1381
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 4: Is why you can't have nice things if that's the case. So,

1382
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 4: like I've seen a little uptick in that with some

1383
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 4: of these younger reporters coming in. You know, it's phone's

1384
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 4: always in their hand.

1385
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, put it away, put it away, be present

1386
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: or you take present.

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Speaker 3: I do that. I take.

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Speaker 4: It's so funny because like I'll wake up the next

1389
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: morning and forget about conversations that I had, and then

1390
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 4: I'll have in my notes like all this like like

1391
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 4: breaking down like tight end play and tight end positions

1392
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 4: and how that relates back to the offensive line. Like

1393
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 4: because I was talking to like the Dolphins tight end

1394
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 4: coach at the time, like all of that stuff is great,

1395
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 4: but don't there's there's no actual documentation that's allowed, which

1396
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 4: is hysterical.

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Speaker 5: Don't do it. Don't do it.

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01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna we're just gonna move on and

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01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: go and go back to you, Martin. I love the sidetrack.

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Speaker 2: What's trending?

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01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 8: Take memories? Yeah, yeah, remember you know what I do.

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01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hold your temples and you blink and you

1403
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 2: go mental picture.

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01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 8: There, you go, take memories.

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01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 9: Be like, ooh, that guy's having a lot of fun

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01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 9: I wonder how much funny has during the year.

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01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 8: You know, that guy's locked in.

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01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 3: I wonder how lot.

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Speaker 8: Anyway, let's see here.

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Speaker 9: Top five Top ten match up in SEC play in

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01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 9: men's college basketball. Fifth rank Tennessee hosting sixth rinth Alabama.

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Speaker 8: The Crimson tie with a.

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Speaker 9: Forty nine to forty five lead with fifteen forty eight

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Speaker 9: left in the game at the half. S Houston, the

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Speaker 9: fourth ranked team in the nation, has a thirty seven

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01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 9: to twenty five lead over Cincinnati. We just watched Mississippi

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01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 9: State beat LSU eighty Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I said that LSU was leading for a lot of

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Speaker 8: that game.

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Speaker 3: I was just about to.

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Speaker 9: Say, no, Mississippi State one, LSU lost the second half

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01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 9: by fourteen points. Yeah, I was about to double check

1423
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 9: that one. LSU still badness. He played three and thirteen.

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01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 9: There you State the twenty fourth forty fourth ranked team

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01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 9: in the nation. Auburn won the SEC title tonight with

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Speaker 9: a ninety four to seventy eight win over seventeenth rank Kentucky,

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Speaker 9: seventh ranks Saint John's and brus to seventeen and two

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Speaker 9: in Big East play, beating Seaton Hall seventy one to

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Speaker 9: sixty one. Texas Tech goes on the road, beats Kansas

1430
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 9: seventy eight to seventy three, Texas Tech to tenth rank

1431
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 9: team in the nation, thirteenth ranked Clemson with a win

1432
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 9: sixteenth rank Maryland where they went over Penn State. And

1433
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 9: in the NHL, right now, the Florida Panthers leading the

1434
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 9: Flames two to nothing with about ten minutes left in

1435
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 9: the final period, and the Bruins lead the Penguins to

1436
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 9: nothing with about nine minutes left and the third period.

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01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 5: Back to you, guys, nailed it, Thanks Martin.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday at Alex Career at

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01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from the Tar dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios in Los Angeles. It is time for our

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Speaker 2: next guest, the host of the NFL and Fox podcast,

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01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: a bestie of our show, Dave Hellman.

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01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining the show.

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01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 11: Hello friends, it is good to be honest.

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01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 2: As yes, right, we appreciate you, we love you. And

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01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: let's dive right into the topic we have not talked

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01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: about yet. Today, Matthew Stafford and the Rams came to

1448
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 2: an agreement on a new deal to keep them in LA.

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01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: Do you think there was ever a chance that the

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01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: Rams were going to let Stafford go.

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01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 11: I do think there was a chance, which is funny

1452
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 11: because it didn't feel real for the first I don't know,

1453
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 11: thirty six hours from the time I read the first report,

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01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 11: I was just like, this is dumb, and this doesn't

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01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 11: make sense for anybody.

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01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the.

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01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 11: Problem is what makes a whole hell of a lot

1458
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 11: of sense. Money.

1459
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, money, all the money.

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Speaker 11: And the uh you know. The crux of this was

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01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 11: that the Rams gave Stafford permission to talk to other teams,

1462
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 11: and really, once you do that, it can help you

1463
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 11: get a sense of what a player's worth. But it

1464
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 11: can also really poison the well in a contract negotiation,

1465
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 11: because the minute the New York Giants or the Las

1466
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 11: Vegas Raiders can approach you and say, hey, man, you're

1467
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 11: making forty million dollars on year on average per year, Well,

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01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 11: we can bump that up to like fifty six if

1469
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 11: you want. Yeah, it's real easy to lose the leverage

1470
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 11: when another team is willing to blow your offer out

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01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 11: of the water. But fortunately for the RAMS, I think

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01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 11: there was still a really good relationship between Stafford and

1473
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 11: the decision makers. Sean McVay left sneed. I don't think

1474
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 11: there was any acrimony or any sense of like disrespect,

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01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 11: which I think is often what leads to guys changing teams.

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01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 11: And fortunately the relationship aspect of this was very good,

1477
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 11: and it allowed everybody to say, hey, aren't we better together?

1478
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 5: We almost we almost made it.

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01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 4: That was the big thing is I think that not

1481
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 4: only is there a good relationship there between Drew Stafford

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01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 4: and Sean McVay and and the rest of the organization,

1483
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 4: but there was also there had to have been some

1484
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 4: sort of confidence on the RAMS part to be like,

1485
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 4: all right, if you really, if you really want to

1486
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 4: go somewhere and win.

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 3: Your options are pretty limited.

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01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I agree, I agree with you, Karen,

1489
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 11: But like I said, I think that confidence can turn

1490
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 11: into uncertainty really quickly when somebody starts throwing around a

1491
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 11: super high number. And on top of that, it's great

1492
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 11: for the Rams to say that, but the reality is

1493
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 11: they were kinda, in my opinion, at least, gonna be

1494
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 11: up the creek without a paddle if Matthew Stafford had

1495
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 11: demanded demanded out. I mean, if you look around, if

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01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 11: you don't have Matthew Stafford, you could try to throw

1497
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 11: the bag at Sam Donald. I don't think that would

1498
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 11: excite anybody in LA after watching Donald play the Rams

1499
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 11: in the playoffs. Now you could not. I mean, you

1500
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 11: could try to entice Aaron Rodgers. I mean, he lives

1501
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 11: in Malibu, but I mean that is that's a lot,

1502
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 11: that is a whole lot of extracurriculars that go along

1503
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 11: with it, on top of the fact that he's forty

1504
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 11: one years old. And then if it's if it's not

1505
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 11: those two guys, then you're talking about maybe Justin Fields

1506
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 11: or you signed Jimmy Garoppolo, who was their backup. I mean,

1507
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 11: have I said a single name that gives you confidence

1508
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 11: that the Rams would be closer to a Super Bowl.

1509
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 5: I don't more than Matthew Stafford. Absolutely not.

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01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: Right now, you mentioned Aaron Rodgers and the Rams were

1511
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 2: a team that he was reportedly interested in. But now

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: that's off the table. What do you think happens to

1513
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 2: Rogers now?

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Speaker 11: Funny little subplot of this offseason is that the you know,

1515
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 11: Joe Shay and the general manager of the New York Giants.

1516
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 11: He had his end of year press conference. Obviously was

1517
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 11: a terrible year for the Giants and they're on sinn

1518
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 11: ice they might get fired, and Joe Shane said to

1519
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 11: New York reporters after the season that I'm not going

1520
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 11: to do any hail Mary stuff to try to keep

1521
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 11: my job. I'm not going to do anything desperate to

1522
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 11: try to hold onto my job for another year. And

1523
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 11: in the months since that happened, they made an extremely

1524
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 11: aggressive push for Matthew Stafford. And now as soon as

1525
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 11: staff re upped with the Rams, you're hearing reports out

1526
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 11: of New York that the Giants are going to try

1527
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 11: hard to get Aaron Rodgers to come play for them.

1528
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 11: You know, he's already in that area he can just

1529
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 11: move to the facility on the other side of North Jersey. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: that sounds pretty desperate to me. Yeah, that sounds like

1531
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 11: the Giants doing anything they can to be in the

1532
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 11: mix this year. So that I mean, that seems like

1533
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 11: the presumptive favorite. If that doesn't work out, you know,

1534
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 11: maybe whichever team doesn't win the quarterback lottery, I guess

1535
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 11: you would say in the draft this year. I don't know.

1536
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 11: Maybe the Raiders are worth mentioning, probably the Tennessee Titans

1537
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 11: if they're not in love with one of these quarterbacks

1538
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 11: at the top of the draft. But if the Giants

1539
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 11: don't want him, I think it's you know, I'm not

1540
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 11: sure Aaron Rodgers is going to be in love with

1541
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:48,839
Speaker 11: his options.

1542
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 4: I want to talk about something else. You talk about

1543
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 4: media availabilities and things that are said at the combine

1544
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 4: and all of those things you covered the Cowboys. You

1545
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 4: know a hi media cycle works. You know that Dallas

1546
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 4: Cowboy beat writers are usually the ones that have to

1547
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 4: stay the entire week because Jerry Jones does not speak

1548
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 4: until the end of it. Well, that day was today

1549
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 4: and he blew them all off.

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01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 3: What is behind that, Dave, I don't know.

1551
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 11: What's behind it, But I don't. I think it is

1552
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 11: something with the capital s that is very stronge.

1553
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: What do you mean.

1554
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 11: Is it's very strange and outside the norm behavior. So

1555
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 11: for anybody that's not familiar with the combine, I'll paint

1556
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 11: you a quick picture. Every general manager and every head

1557
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 11: coach speaks to the media at the combine. It is

1558
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 11: mandated by the league. It's one of the handful of

1559
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 11: times a year that you have to talk. Well in

1560
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 11: typical Jerry fashion, he typically waits for the end of

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01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 11: the week. He brings everybody onto his super cool cowboys

1562
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 11: tour bus and he has a you know, he has

1563
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 11: a state of the union with the local media. He's

1564
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 11: been doing it for as long as I can remember.

1565
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 11: I've had a chance to sit in on those, you know,

1566
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 11: at least ten times, if not more, and to not

1567
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 11: do it A you're not meeting your requirement to talk

1568
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 11: for the week, and b again, it is such a

1569
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 11: huge departure from the norm that it can only mean

1570
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,759
Speaker 11: one of a couple things. Is A Jerry really doesn't

1571
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 11: want to talk about something. Maybe he's not trying to

1572
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 11: give the game away. You know, you've heard reports this

1573
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 11: week that the Cowboys are in conversations with a couple

1574
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 11: of their free agents or B. And this is this

1575
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 11: is my theory. I don't have this confirmed or anything.

1576
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 11: My theory is that the Cowboys are pretty aggravated about

1577
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,520
Speaker 11: the way that they've been treated over the last year. Obviously,

1578
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 11: they caught a lot of flak for the way they

1579
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 11: approached last offseason. They've been raked over the coals by

1580
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 11: everybody in the.

1581
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 3: Media, So that's their own salt.

1582
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,799
Speaker 5: They dated to themselves, guys.

1583
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 11: I never said that it wasn't fair. But it's up

1584
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 11: to the Cowboys how they perceive these things, you know.

1585
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 11: And if the Cowboys, if they don't feel like being

1586
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 11: their normal grip garyus sells, maybe maybe they feel justified

1587
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 11: based on how much of a bummer the last six

1588
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 11: to eight months have been. Or you know, maybe Jerry

1589
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 11: was just busier than he thought.

1590
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 5: But again, exactly everything is something for Jerry.

1591
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 11: I completely agree with you, and that's why I don't

1592
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 11: know for sure what is up. And I believe Jerry

1593
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 11: told the Cowboys media that he would talk next week

1594
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 11: when everybody gets home to Texas. Maybe we'll find out

1595
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 11: next week, but I firmly believe something is up. Whether

1596
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 11: it's because some Cowboys news is coming, or maybe Jerry

1597
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 11: Jones is just mad at the media, I'm not sure,

1598
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 11: but it was very It made my eyebrow perk up

1599
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 11: very high.

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01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: For sure, especially since like that, Yeah, that's Jerry's time

1601
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: to shine.

1602
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 11: It really is like Jerry never misses a chance the

1603
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 11: old court, So to not want to sit down and

1604
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 11: let everybody know what he thinks that is, that's a

1605
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 11: departure from the normans. I would call it a red flag.

1606
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 11: I can't wait to see what it means.

1607
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 4: Okay, now you've just created also something that you have

1608
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 4: to account for.

1609
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 3: Talk about any when he talks next week.

1610
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, why didn't you talk to us last week?

1611
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 3: Week? All of these base reporters have extended their trip.

1612
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 3: They pay for the whole week.

1613
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 5: Pay us back, Jerry.

1614
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 11: Seriously, there's always going to be some fun drama with

1615
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 11: the Cowboys guys every year.

1616
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 5: Okay, So you were out at the Combine this week.

1617
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: We've we've been talking about how it's probably one of

1618
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 2: the top rated events football events for people in our industry,

1619
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: just because everybody's there.

1620
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 5: Is there any inside scoop that you can share from.

1621
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 2: The week, maybe like a player that stood out to you,

1622
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: a coach you talked to, some insight info.

1623
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 5: What can you give us?

1624
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:49,799
Speaker 11: Oh my gosh, Yeah, I mean we're getting We're getting

1625
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 11: real inside baseball here, Like I don't mainly what I

1626
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 11: go for is the the player aspect of it. I'm

1627
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 11: a huge draft nerd, and you know, covering the league

1628
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 11: all the way up to the super Bowl is uh it.

1629
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 11: You know, I get a late start these days. I'm

1630
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 11: not as hip on the draft as I probably should be.

1631
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 11: So it's very fun. It's very fun for me to

1632
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 11: like get out there and ask people what they really

1633
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 11: think about guys that I've been hearing about, uh and

1634
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 11: see what the real opinion is. And again, I don't

1635
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 11: know how much this moves the needle, but I've got

1636
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 11: a big draft crush on a fellow named Jihad Campbell

1637
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 11: out of Alabama, Okay, And I liked him as a

1638
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 11: player heading in and I got a whole lot of

1639
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 11: good feedback about him while I was in Indianapolis. So

1640
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 11: you know, I don't think that's gonna, you know, drive

1641
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 11: a lot of clicks right now in March, but maybe

1642
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 11: maybe when this guy's balling out later in the season.

1643
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 11: People will remember I said it because I talked to

1644
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 11: a lot of people like yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, big time.

1645
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 11: And I think a guy that can make a difference

1646
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 11: right away.

1647
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 4: And somebody who I think has kind of set the

1648
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 4: table for him too is in Green Bay Is Cooper?

1649
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 4: What's his last what's his first name? Why am I

1650
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 4: breaking on that? Edgrin Cooper? There it is, It's been

1651
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 4: a long week Edgrin Cooper? Who because John Campbell is

1652
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 4: one of those like inside outside guys. He's played both

1653
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 4: inside off ball, linebacker and edge for Alabama and you

1654
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 4: see kind of the creative ways that the coaches that

1655
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,520
Speaker 4: can now use guys like that in the past Rush

1656
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 4: And so I'm with you, Dave, like I think that

1657
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 4: like his stock has risen or at least we got

1658
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 4: confirmation that guys behind the scenes and decision makers.

1659
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 3: So yeah, see that too.

1660
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: That's exactly absolutely Dave. We appreciate you coming on. Thank

1661
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:47,759
Speaker 2: you so much. What happens with the boys? The boys?

1662
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody will be tuning in to Jerry's remarks, and.

1663
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: You know what, maybe that's why, maybe that's why he

1664
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 2: did it once again, spotlight on Jerry all Right, Dave,

1665
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We're going to take one more

1666
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 2: break here when we come back. Who won our NFL

1667
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 2: season picks between Karme and me? Oh listening to Fox

1668
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday.

1669
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 5: I am Alex Curry here with Carmen Fatalite.

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01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tire Talk Com studios

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01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. I thought we were this was a

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Speaker 2: commercial because this song's using so many commercials.

1673
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 5: I was like, right, are we back or is this

1674
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Speaker 5: a commercial? What's happening here?

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Speaker 3: Listen? If you missed any of today's show, it was

1676
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 3: a fun one, dude.

1677
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 5: We had a great time.

1678
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:30,840
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1686
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 4: We're an eye opener, like we're everywhere.

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01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 5: We're everywhere, all right.

1688
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: So this is our first show post Super Bowl and

1689
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: throughout the entire season.

1690
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 5: Carmen and I did NFL pictures.

1691
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 3: Are you sure we have to do this?

1692
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 5: Yes, we do.

1693
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 2: We have to know the end of the season final

1694
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 2: tally producer and lead us through what what what?

1695
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 5: How did we end this year? Okay?

1696
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 12: I mean, judging by both of your guys's tones, I

1697
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 12: think you guys both already know how.

1698
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 4: I psych myself out every single week. I go with

1699
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 4: my heart, not my head. Actually know I go too

1700
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 4: much with my head because I'm like, I dissect certain

1701
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 4: things and it.

1702
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 12: Just okay, well, well, trusting your head. That got you

1703
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 12: to fifty four and forty one. That was your total on.

1704
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,879
Speaker 3: The year, and yeah, anyway about five it's a first.

1705
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 5: Dad, not bad.

1706
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 12: And then Alex, your totals were sixty one and thirty four.

1707
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 5: Oh maybe, Okay, that's it.

1708
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 12: That's a win for Alex.

1709
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: So I think at the beginning of the year there

1710
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 2: were some suggestions of like what the loser had to

1711
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: do and if I remember correctly, and we can also

1712
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 2: change this, we can put out a vote. I think

1713
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 2: the loser had to write like a rap about the

1714
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 2: winner and recited on the show.

1715
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 5: If you have another idea moment. But I kind of

1716
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 5: love that one.

1717
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 2: It could be like two three lines, funny, weird, whatever

1718
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,759
Speaker 2: you want. You're a writer, so like that feels on brand.

1719
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 3: I don't have caydence. I don't need delivery skills.

1720
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 5: I believe in you.

1721
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of the I was saying, all of the

1722
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 4: listening to all the little.

1723
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 5: Say you've wrapped little Wayne on here.

1724
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 3: You're right, No, I wrapped Boozy on.

1725
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 5: Here beautiful, even better.

1726
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 3: Boozy is easy. He just spells things that spell things.

1727
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 5: There you go see already inpo.

1728
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 3: I just found out. I want to gi a quick

1729
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: shout out.

1730
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jason Fitz buck Rising are following us today on

1731
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 4: this show.

1732
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 3: Love Buck Rising is a good friend.

1733
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:50,440
Speaker 4: Love Jason Fitz's work.

1734
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 3: On the show.

1735
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 5: He's a guest.

1736
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 3: He literally just texted me talk nice. I can hear you.

1737
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, let's go back. Even though absolutely you.

1738
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 3: Know, he didn't tell me any of this, and we

1739
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 3: sat next to each other on Radio.

1740
01:17:58,520 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: Row all week.

1741
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 4: No d no.

1742
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 3: So I might be talking nice, but I'm gonna give

1743
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 3: you some. I'm gonna give you some.

1744
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 4: My face is my face is not talking nice, bug,

1745
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 4: But I have a great show.

1746
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: There were so many things we didn't get to today.

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01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 2: We got sidetracked. Martin Wise also thank you for like

1748
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: the other sidetrack. I think the combine was our sidetrack today.

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01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: This is a Combine show. Is it still on right now?

1750
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're looking at it it is.

1751
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 4: I believe it's still drill.

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01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 2: I didn't get to ask you who stood out to

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01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 2: you at the combin Someone that you're keeping an eye on,

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01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 2: that you're really excited about.

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I loved that Dave brought up to

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01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 4: hot Campbell because again of like the name of the

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01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 4: game this year, I feel like is position of flexibility

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01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 4: just in general, because there are guys even that I'm

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01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 4: looking at from a lion like lines perspective, like on

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01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 4: offensive defensive line, guys that can go in and out.

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01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 4: Tyler Booker of Alabama is an inside.

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01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: Like so another Alabama player days was an Alabama player.

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01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 5: Yours an Alabama player.

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01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 4: Track littered with Bama players with our list if they

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01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 4: make the National Championship or not. But Tyler Booker who

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01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 4: is listed, I believe as an inside offensive lineman as

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01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 4: a guard. It does have position flexibility as far as tackle,

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01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 4: and I heard from Lanceer line this week we got

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01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 4: to interview him on Radio Row and it's talking about

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01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 4: all right, your injuries, especially along the offensive line, are

1771
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 4: when not an if, and so if you guys, if

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01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 4: you have guys that have position flexibility, go in and out,

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01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 4: that's it's invaluable as.

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01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 11: Far as.

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01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 4: Over or just you know, in general, you want to

1776
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 4: keep continuity as much as possible.

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 3: So I really do think a guy like Tyler.

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01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 4: Booker can be a good addition to a team that

1779
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 4: wants to insulate against the line because you can only

1780
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 4: hold so many offensive linemen on your roster, you know,

1781
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 4: anywhere between nine to eleven offensive linemen on your active

1782
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 4: roster poor game day, and it depends on you know

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01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 4: what what who you are as a team and all

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01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 4: that other stuff. So I'm shocker of all shockers. I'm

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01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 4: looking at offensive linemen this game favorite position group for

1786
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 4: so many reasons. But I do I really appreciated hearing

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01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 4: from people about Tyler Booker and just how athletic he

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01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 4: really is.

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01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for spending your Saturday afternoon

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Speaker 2: with us. Stick around Jason Fitzbuck Rising coming up next.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week, same time, same place,