Speaker 1: This broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the
Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty arm.
Speaker 2: Strong and Getty.
Speaker 3: I know he.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Yetty.
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Speaker 1: That's a decent point. Valentine Day is on a Friday
Speaker 1: this year, so I don't know. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to finish that. Does that mean anything?
Speaker 5: Well, if you were thinking of going out for dinner
Speaker 5: or drinks or whatever on Friday, because that's what you do.
Speaker 1: Think again, that's a better point if you're not a
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day but just usually you go out to dinner
Speaker 1: on Friday or something, not this time, right, I wouldn't,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, wouldn't try. I'm tempted to tell this story myself,
Speaker 1: but Elon told the story in the Oval office yesterday,
Speaker 1: so we'll play him. I find his speaking, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's because of his Asperger's or whatever, so
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know. I find it a little
Speaker 1: difficult to follow sometimes his halting manner. But this is
Speaker 1: an amazing story about how off track the government bureaucracy
Speaker 1: can get in its effectiveness. And well, I'll let him
Speaker 1: tell it and fill in any gaps.
Speaker 3: And then we're told this is actually, I think a
Speaker 3: great anecdote because we're told the most number of people
Speaker 3: that could retire possibly in a month is ten thousand.
Speaker 3: We're like, well, why is that? Well, because all our
Speaker 3: time at paperwork is manual on paper. It's manually calculated,
Speaker 3: been written down on a piece of paper.
Speaker 2: Then it goes down to mine, like, what do you
Speaker 2: mean of mine?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, there's a limestone mine where we're still all
Speaker 3: the retirement paperwork. And you look at picture of at
Speaker 3: a picture of this mine. We'll post the pictures afterwards,
Speaker 3: and this is this mine looks like something out of
Speaker 3: the fifties because it was started in nineteen fifty five,
Speaker 3: so it looks like it's like.
Speaker 2: A time warp.
Speaker 3: And then the speed, then the limiting factor is the
Speaker 3: speed at which the mine, the shaft elevator can move,
Speaker 3: determines how many people can retire from the federal from
Speaker 3: the federal government, and the elevator breaks down and then
Speaker 3: sometimes and then you can't. Nobody can retire. It doesn't
Speaker 3: that sound crazy? There look a thousand people that work
Speaker 3: on this. So I think if we can take those
Speaker 3: people and say, like, you know what, instead of working
Speaker 3: in a mine shaft and carrying Manila ovelopes to you know,
Speaker 3: boxes in a mine shaft, you could do practically anything
Speaker 3: else and you would add to the goods and services
Speaker 3: of the United States in a more useful way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at us on a luget olive ark.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the pictures of the mine and the
Speaker 1: boxes them envelopes because that's how they process retirement in
Speaker 1: the federal government in the year twenty twenty five. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's really quite hilarious. About seven hundred workers operate more
Speaker 1: than two hundred and thirty feet underground to process a
Speaker 1: maximum of ten thousand federal retirement applications per month, all
Speaker 1: processed by hand, using paper and stored in Manila envelopes
Speaker 1: and cardboard boxes.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I saw the pictures too, and the fact that it's
Speaker 5: a file cabinet thing is amazing enough. But why is
Speaker 5: it got to be down in a mind?
Speaker 1: I guess to keep what Yeah, the same reason they
Speaker 1: store old films and stuff like that. Down in minds.
Speaker 1: You can get the right humidity and all these different
Speaker 1: sorts of things. But for so things don't decay. But
Speaker 1: you don't need to do that anymore. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're familiar with the whole computerized record.
Speaker 5: Keeping things or even air conditioners.
Speaker 1: Apparently this has been known for quite some time. The
Speaker 1: Washington Post described the facility as a sinkhole of bureaucracy
Speaker 1: way back in twenty fourteen at the.
Speaker 5: Time, probably defending it as a critical institution that Elon
Speaker 5: Musk must not assault.
Speaker 1: Probably at the time, and this is eleven years ago.
Speaker 1: The report said the total spending on the retirement system
Speaker 1: per year was fifty six million dollars. Multiple attempts to
Speaker 1: digitize the system had been made since the eighties. According
Speaker 1: to the report, each attempt largely failed and was eventually scrapped,
Speaker 1: with the reported cost totaling over one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: million dollars. They spent we we at taxpayers have spent
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty million dollars trying to get away
Speaker 1: from paper and Manila envelopes in boxes down in a
Speaker 1: mine unsuccessfully. As Musk said, it was started in fifty five.
Speaker 1: Nineteen fifty five. Looks like a time warp. It really
Speaker 1: does it well. It looks like you're This picture must
Speaker 1: be from when my dad was in high school, the
Speaker 1: limiting factor being the mine shaft elevator. As he said,
Speaker 1: my favorite part was him saying this could be remedied
Speaker 1: with practically anything else. That's a funny thing to say this.
Speaker 1: We love the line. We could make this better by
Speaker 1: doing practically anything else.
Speaker 5: And it's worth referring back to the New York Times
Speaker 5: headline appearing with Trump. Musk makes broad claims of federal
Speaker 5: fraud without proof. Says there's waste and fraud across the
Speaker 5: bureaucracy without offering evidence. What the hell, no evident.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to think.
Speaker 5: I loved his line about and I guess if the
Speaker 5: elevator breaks, no one can retire.
Speaker 1: That's Michael. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard,
Speaker 1: no I know. And what should be most striking is
Speaker 1: there have been multiple attempts to improve it at a
Speaker 1: cost of one hundred and thirty million dollars. They and
Speaker 1: you couldn't because the bureaucracy is so thick and layered
Speaker 1: and people I got. I gotta believe it's got a
Speaker 1: lot to do with. Well, if we computerized it, we
Speaker 1: would need seven hundred employees. We'd probably need like six,
Speaker 1: maybe one, And they're the the the inertia to keep
Speaker 1: all those people employed. It reminds me of the whole
Speaker 1: dock worker thing that we mocked because the dock worker
Speaker 1: unions are so powerful they want to keep having a
Speaker 1: guy with a clipboard and a pen read the license
Speaker 1: plate of the car rather than have a computer scan
Speaker 1: it and do it because you got another employee and
Speaker 1: more union does right, Well, that's that thing and needs
Speaker 1: to get worked out. But with my tax money down there,
Speaker 1: with the retirement records, that's insane.
Speaker 5: You remember, one of the more stupid and discouraging moments
Speaker 5: in American politics was when Mitt Romney referred to the
Speaker 5: creative destruction of capitalism, meaning, you know, as things become
Speaker 5: useless or less useful, or a better product comes along
Speaker 5: or whatever, the old thing goes away. And that's not
Speaker 5: a bad thing, that's a wonderful thing. But with government
Speaker 5: it's the equivalent of we're still ordering our household goods
Speaker 5: from the sears. Roebuck catalog and waiting six to eight
Speaker 5: weeks for delivery because well, think about all the people
Speaker 5: who print the catalog and work at the warehouse and
Speaker 5: all those well, you know, all the chanting. We should
Speaker 5: play some more of the chanting and then swearing and
Speaker 5: stuff like that, and.
Speaker 1: Sears would go away because everybody would use Amazon. No,
Speaker 1: we can't have Seiers go away. So we're gonna fund
Speaker 1: it somehow to keep it around, even though there's a
Speaker 1: much better way to.
Speaker 5: Do it, And so you have the equivalent to continue,
Speaker 5: you know, going back and forth between the metaphor and
Speaker 5: the reality of Chuck Schumer bellowing in the streets that we.
Speaker 1: Are gonna fight Elon Musk trying to.
Speaker 5: Take away our catalog at our sixty eight wait deliveries.
Speaker 1: We're gotta fight. I straight, Who's with me?
Speaker 5: And what was the other clip we played where they're
Speaker 5: trying discoh with this idiotic song in which they're trying
Speaker 5: to make reducing government waste the civil rights issue of
Speaker 5: our time? Michael plays the idiotic song would you clip?
Speaker 2: Which side are you on?
Speaker 1: This is so horrible?
Speaker 2: Side? Are you?
Speaker 1: I apologize for playing it?
Speaker 2: Which side are you on?
Speaker 1: Wait till they're kicking the versus side Are you on?
Speaker 2: Where fight against jog? Where fights?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: Wait landscap within our walls, We'll fight from dong to dusk.
Speaker 2: Which side are you on?
Speaker 1: Which side are you on?
Speaker 6: Me?
Speaker 2: Which side are you on? Which side are you on?
Speaker 1: Thank you for are unions?
Speaker 2: It was to fat he wants sound.
Speaker 3: Too bow to him, but we want him in jail.
Speaker 1: Where are you? Yeah? The other one? Thank you for
Speaker 1: asking the other one? I mean, like me, body and soul?
Speaker 2: Are you are you can?
Speaker 5: You're with the Union?
Speaker 2: Are you a scabby musk ploodhound? Wow?
Speaker 1: You're either with the Union or a scabby musk bloodhound.
Speaker 5: But you know, sometimes you get done with a song
Speaker 5: and you realize badline is as bad.
Speaker 1: I gotta cut that.
Speaker 5: I suggest you got old stop it, make it end, Michael.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 5: The other verses were plenty.
Speaker 1: I'm on the side that doesn't think we should have
Speaker 1: the retirements system done by hand on paper in Manila
Speaker 1: envelopes down in a mine anymore. That's insane.
Speaker 5: And the whole pathetic effort to get some sort of
Speaker 5: Union song to catch on in twenty twenty five. If
Speaker 5: you know the history of that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that song was not to make sure black kids
Speaker 1: could go to school, or or black people could vote
Speaker 1: and sell Alabama or whatever. That song was to make
Speaker 1: sure that you keep having people fill out by hand
Speaker 1: paperwork and store it in a box underground.
Speaker 5: Well, and as funny as that was, because it was
Speaker 5: such a steaming pile, it's highly annoying because it tries
Speaker 5: to put on the clothes of, as Jack pointed out,
Speaker 5: the civil rights movement, which was a righteous cause in
Speaker 5: Dace indeed, or you know, a miners' union singing a
Speaker 5: song so everybody didn't die of black black long at
Speaker 5: age forty one, you know, that sort of union movement.
Speaker 5: But they're putting on the clothes of that stuff in
Speaker 5: the name of preserving the pay of bureaucrats who don't
Speaker 5: do anything as our country goes broke. Which side are
Speaker 5: you on? Yeah, yeah, I got an answer for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not Pete Seeger or Woody Guthrie. If you're
Speaker 1: trying to argue that we need to have trans operas
Speaker 1: in Ireland paid for by the taxpayer.
Speaker 5: You know, if the Irish want a good trans opera,
Speaker 5: and who among us doesn't enjoy a good trans opera.
Speaker 5: The Irish need to pay for it with their own
Speaker 5: the balloons or pounds or whatever rocks or whatever currency
Speaker 5: they use.
Speaker 1: Yes, more on the way, Which side are you on?
Speaker 4: Which side are you on?
Speaker 1: Pete Hexas second Death said a couple interesting things today
Speaker 1: is in Brussels. I believe he said it is unrealistic
Speaker 1: for Ukraine to get to go back to its pre
Speaker 1: war borders, which is true, and that we are not
Speaker 1: supporting Ukraine being a member of NATO anytime soon. So
Speaker 1: that's where that is now. And New York Times with
Speaker 1: an article I just started reading about how the most
Speaker 1: brutal fighting going on right now is on Russian soil
Speaker 1: as Russian soldiers try to dislodge that little piece of
Speaker 1: land the Ukrainians have taken. And that's a brutal, awful fight.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there are some fairly Trump friendly diplomatic types who
Speaker 5: think Hegseth saying those things out loud was just a
Speaker 5: horrific mistake. I don't, and I think I understand why.
Speaker 5: In a classic negotiating sense, you don't want to announce
Speaker 5: in advance what you're willing to give up.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true, but I set off the table. But
Speaker 1: I don't have any idea where they are in the
Speaker 1: negotiations that they may have already crossed that point. I
Speaker 1: don't think.
Speaker 5: Well, officially there aren't any negotiations, but.
Speaker 1: What's being discussed behind the scenes, that theme, I've already
Speaker 1: dealt with that, right, you know, conversations. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: one of the headlines today. Trump has had several conversations
Speaker 1: with Putin recently. I don't know to what extent we
Speaker 1: should be deciding what Ukraine's willing to do. That's its
Speaker 1: own separate topic. Trump may have already told Putin, yeah,
Speaker 1: we realized they're not going to get all their country back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I just I'm so tired of the knee jerk
Speaker 5: condemnation of departing from the usual way of doing things.
Speaker 5: I think the usual way of doing things sometimes is good,
Speaker 5: and so I'm not knee jerk in the other direction either.
Speaker 5: But I don't feel any need to leap to the
Speaker 5: criticism of the way they're doing things now, because so
Speaker 5: much of it was not very effective.
Speaker 1: Anyway. Well, two things on that one. Zelensky has already
Speaker 1: said himself that he realizes they are probably not going
Speaker 1: to get all the land back. To the pre war borders,
Speaker 1: so he has said right two, having read the Bob
Speaker 1: Woodward book and the David Sanger book, there's so much
Speaker 1: that goes on that we don't know about until much later.
Speaker 5: One hundred as the kids say, uh so, speaking of things,
Speaker 5: people say.
Speaker 1: Are you laughing at me?
Speaker 3: How?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was funny. So a couple of things.
Speaker 5: From the world to work. Number one, I'm working on
Speaker 5: my first ever PowerPoint except I'm not using powerpointing, using
Speaker 5: Apple's platform, which is a keynote. I have never made
Speaker 5: one of those PowerPoint style presentations in my life.
Speaker 1: I haven't either, and with luck, I may be able
Speaker 1: to get to the grave without having to.
Speaker 5: And I've always thought it might be fun to know
Speaker 5: how it's it's practically effortless.
Speaker 1: Anybody is everything you want to be employable. It seems
Speaker 1: like a good idea, especially now.
Speaker 5: But I'm going to work very, very hard to avoid
Speaker 5: the things I hate about PowerPoint presentations and that everybody
Speaker 5: else hates unnecessarily fancy transitions between slides, and the slide
Speaker 5: that has five points that you can read in twelve seconds,
Speaker 5: but that the presenter reads for you over the case
Speaker 5: of ninety seconds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always wondered, why were you doing this? So
Speaker 1: you're telling me all this slowly? Okay, I see it
Speaker 1: right up there. I read it already. Can we move
Speaker 1: on please? Anyway?
Speaker 5: And then this I came across in the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 5: I think this is so funny that people don't get this.
Speaker 5: I'll start the way they start. Greg Fahee says there's
Speaker 5: a trick that helped him recruit college athletes and make
Speaker 5: friends with powerful people. When he meets someone, he repeats
Speaker 5: their name and conversation and he writes it down his
Speaker 5: phone two at his memory. But he's one of those guys. Okay, Jack,
Speaker 5: would you be totally opposed to trying this out? Because Jack,
Speaker 5: I hear you're worrying you do it? Why what can
Speaker 5: I do for you?
Speaker 1: Now? Three times I'm a little weird about.
Speaker 5: I know, and that the article is about how the
Speaker 5: vast majority of the people think that's creepy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5: I feel some people think it's a powerful toll.
Speaker 1: Even the first one, I'm a little makes it a
Speaker 1: little weird, But you get into two and three. I've
Speaker 1: started referring to our what are you supposed to call
Speaker 1: them other than waitresses? I've started referring to servers by
Speaker 1: their names, and my kids really hate it. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but it really bothers them when I do that. Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I alway, Jenny, I'm out. Are you doing, Jenny?
Speaker 5: Whenever my mom would chat with a server or whatever,
Speaker 5: that just made me so uncomfortable. Do you remember why?
Speaker 5: Because it drives my kid's nuts. So now I do
Speaker 5: it more. It's got to be something anthropological.
Speaker 1: Huh. It's gotta be anyway.
Speaker 5: So the guy reacting to the Jack, would you be
Speaker 5: totally opposed to trying this?
Speaker 2: Jack?
Speaker 1: Jack? I hear that you.
Speaker 5: He says it was clear the person was using manipulative
Speaker 5: sales tactics, and this communications professor says, it's easy to
Speaker 5: see when somebody's trying to influence you by doing that.
Speaker 5: I feel icky when someone says my name every other sentence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm probably I'm probably not buying whatever you're trying
Speaker 1: to sell me. You do that?
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, I'm going elsewhere.
Speaker 1: See you? What is it?
Speaker 2: Jim?
Speaker 1: Jim, You'll notice I'm leaving. Jim. Now I'm walking out
Speaker 1: the door. Jim Armstrong and Geeddy.
Speaker 6: I feel like the luckiest man on earth right now.
Speaker 6: And I want you to know that I am not
Speaker 6: a hero in this at all.
Speaker 2: And President Trump, this is a hero.
Speaker 1: Mark Fogel, teacher accused of smoking dope in Russia by
Speaker 1: the Russians. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. You never know.
Speaker 1: They grab Americans all the time in China and Russian
Speaker 1: North Korean places like that, so they can use him
Speaker 1: as a bargaining chip for something, or he might have
Speaker 1: been smoking dope. Who knows.
Speaker 5: You don't we audit into the country anyway.
Speaker 1: You don't get to hold an American for what four years?
Speaker 1: How long was he there alone? Time? Long time?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Years? And first I always wonder on these things because
Speaker 1: you know, there's uh, You've got the policy people around
Speaker 1: any White House, and then you got the political people.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure the political people are pushing hard for
Speaker 1: get this guy on TV. Get this guy. We need
Speaker 1: to We need him standing next to Donald Trump. And
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, man, I just got out of four years
Speaker 1: in a Russian prison, which he's about to describe what
Speaker 1: it was like. I want to go home. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be on Fox and Friends this morning doing
Speaker 1: an interview with makeup and lights and waiting for the
Speaker 1: segment to start an end. I want to be home
Speaker 1: in my bed with my family or friends or whoever
Speaker 1: I haven't seen in four years. Right, that seems like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on there anyway. Here is
Speaker 1: Mark Foegel Fogel describing a little the last several years
Speaker 1: in a Russian prison.
Speaker 6: This super organism of people that came to my support.
Speaker 2: And the love that I was given.
Speaker 6: Sustain me for three and a half years.
Speaker 2: In prison, that had me.
Speaker 6: In hospitals for more than one hundred days. I was
Speaker 6: given more than four hundred injections in that time, and
Speaker 6: knowing I had the support of my fellow Pennsylvanians, my family,
Speaker 6: my friends, it was so overwhelming that it brought me
Speaker 6: to my knees and it brought me to tears.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he did a big debriefing with the CIA.
Speaker 1: Maybe the first thing he did on the plane back
Speaker 1: over probably four hundred injections.
Speaker 5: Of what and you're held in the hospital why as
Speaker 5: some sort of weird detention, more questions than answers.
Speaker 1: But that's fine, there's time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but good lord, four hundred injections of God knows
Speaker 5: what that would scare me. Yeah, what you're a beating
Speaker 5: I know how to take, not that I would enjoy it,
Speaker 5: But then happen to me full of God knows what.
Speaker 1: I assume he doesn't speak Russian. So somebody comes up
Speaker 1: to you in the hospital or the prison and sticks
Speaker 1: an eedel in your arm? You think, am I going
Speaker 1: to be dead in thirty seconds? Or what the hell
Speaker 1: is that? Are you doing medical experiments on me? What
Speaker 1: the hell is going on here? Right?
Speaker 5: Four hundred and was he counting them or seemed quite confident.
Speaker 1: In his number? I have many questions. Anyway, here's Trump
Speaker 1: talking about the whole deal that he made with Putin.
Speaker 7: They were very nice, We were treated very nicely by Russia. Actually,
Speaker 7: I hope that's the beginning of a relationship where we
Speaker 7: can end that war and millions of people can stop
Speaker 7: being killed. They've lost millions of people. They lost in
Speaker 7: terms of soldiers, probably one point five million soldiers in
Speaker 7: a short period of time we got to that war.
Speaker 7: And I'm interested primarily from the standpoint of death. We're
Speaker 7: losing all those soldiers, and then other American soldiers, the
Speaker 7: Ukrainian and Russian soldiers. But you're probably talking about a
Speaker 7: million and a half. I think I think we kind
Speaker 7: of bring that one to an end.
Speaker 1: So what's the angle there? So this is seen as
Speaker 1: us getting Mark fogelback, who Putin had been holding illegally
Speaker 1: for three and a half years, as part of the
Speaker 1: negotiation for ending the war in Ukraine. I don't know
Speaker 1: how it's all going to fit together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Trump absolutely understands the art of negotiation.
Speaker 5: You know, you want to rattle a seller and soothe
Speaker 5: a buyer, for instance, And he's trying to get Putin
Speaker 5: to buy a good deal to in the war that spares.
Speaker 1: Ukraine too much, you know, defeat.
Speaker 5: But the idea that you could like maneuver against Putin
Speaker 5: and actually buy goodwill, it's like trying to buy goodwill
Speaker 5: from an alligate. I mean, I don't mind him trying.
Speaker 5: It just seems, is it that every president's a bit
Speaker 5: of an egomaniac and they all think they can play
Speaker 5: Putin even a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't know how how would anybody still have that belief?
Speaker 1: And he's an evil, child, murdering monster. I'm uncomfortable with
Speaker 1: anything even close to friendly sounding about him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get why Trump's doing what he's doing, but
Speaker 5: it's it's difficult to take on a moral level. Russia
Speaker 5: has treated us very well so far. Well, I guess
Speaker 5: your point the beginning of goodwill. I don't think being
Speaker 5: nice to him is going to get you anything.
Speaker 1: He will react in his best interest, whether from what
Speaker 1: he gets or what the pain he's going to avoid.
Speaker 1: Only Yeah, like's an alligator. It's whether you call him,
Speaker 1: you know, evil personified or my good friend. Either way
Speaker 1: you're going to get the same result. I think it's
Speaker 1: just going to be all about what you know his
Speaker 1: interests are. So I don't know why you got to
Speaker 1: do the night anyway. So Trump just put this out.
Speaker 1: He just tweeted this out, and I won't read the
Speaker 1: whole thing. It's really long. I just had a lengthy
Speaker 1: and highly provocative phone call productive. I'm sorry I shouldn't.
Speaker 1: That's funny. That was in my head. I just had
Speaker 1: a lengthy and highly productive phone call with President Vladimir
Speaker 1: Putin and Russia. We discussed Ukraine, the Middle East, energy,
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, the power of the dollar, and various other subjects.
Speaker 1: We both reflected on the great history of our nations
Speaker 1: and the fact that we fought so successfully together in
Speaker 1: World War Two, remembering that Russia lost tens of millions
Speaker 1: of people and we likewise lost so many. It's all
Speaker 1: this stuff is just We each talked about the strengths
Speaker 1: of our respective nations and the great benefit that we
Speaker 1: someday will someday have in working together. But first we
Speaker 1: as we both agreed, we want to stop the millions
Speaker 1: of deaths taking place in the war with Russia Ukraine.
Speaker 1: President Putin even used my very strong campaign campaign motto
Speaker 1: of common sense in all caps. We both believe very strong,
Speaker 1: only in it. Putin is going to agree to this
Speaker 1: if it's in something he agrees to. I mean, like
Speaker 1: he's okay with period.
Speaker 5: In any negotiation, there's probably a little bit around the margins.
Speaker 5: You can increase or decrease with goodwill, but not with Putin,
Speaker 5: not even a little. This is just the way Trump
Speaker 5: does business. Though, Yeah, this is interesting. We have also
Speaker 5: agreed to have our respective teams start negotiations immediately, and
Speaker 5: we will begin by calling President Zalynsky of Ukraine to
Speaker 5: inform him of the conversation. Well, I'm guess he'll be
Speaker 5: pleased to know other people are figuring out how much
Speaker 5: of his country. He has to give away thanks for
Speaker 5: the jingle, something which I will begin doing right now.
Speaker 5: So he's going to jump on the phone with Zelensky.
Speaker 5: I've asked Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Director of the
Speaker 5: CI John Ratcliffe. He goes through a bunch of other
Speaker 5: people to lead the negotiations, which I feel strongly will
Speaker 5: be successful. Millions of people have died in a war
Speaker 5: that would not have happened if I were president, but
Speaker 5: it did happen, so it must end. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: in Trump's defense, the Ukrainians have tried everything up to
Speaker 5: and including a horrific, bloody war to get Russia out
Speaker 5: of their country, and that hasn't worked. So you know,
Speaker 5: now the US is going to step back. He hasn't
Speaker 5: worked with the cooperation hasn't worked, within my opinion, tepid
Speaker 5: support that could have been much more forceful, and all
Speaker 5: of the things we eventually gave him could have come
Speaker 5: much earlier and could have made all the difference in
Speaker 5: the war, and they might have actually gotten their land back.
Speaker 5: We'll never know what a horrible, horrible president eventually agreeing
Speaker 5: to all these things. Why didn't you do it earlier?
Speaker 5: Because he was so scared of Putin using nuclear weapons,
Speaker 5: I guess m. But you know, as I've been saying
Speaker 5: since this whole thing started, I'd rather the rest of
Speaker 5: the world was more scared of us than we are
Speaker 5: of them. I think right now the world is more
Speaker 5: scared of us, scared of us than we are of them. Yeah, yeah, Well,
Speaker 5: there's no way this thing ends in a way that's
Speaker 5: not just absolutely heartbreaking and disappointing and disgusting. Just that's
Speaker 5: the nature of these things.
Speaker 1: And millions of lives it died for no reason whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, as is often the case.
Speaker 5: In war, mostly because of Putin's Tsarist dreams. Well, he
Speaker 5: wants to be what William the Conqueror or Henry remember
Speaker 5: that whole thing?
Speaker 1: Which book was it that I read? I think this
Speaker 1: was the Woodword book. But during COVID Putin was so
Speaker 1: scared of getting COVID he went down into the archives
Speaker 1: underneath the Kremlin and started reading through old papers and stuff,
Speaker 1: going back to like Peter the Great, that they still
Speaker 1: have under there, and convinced himself of some noble position
Speaker 1: Russia should have in the world, and it's his job
Speaker 1: to get it back. Because of sitting down there by
Speaker 1: himself reading through, you know, three hundred year old paperwork.
Speaker 1: How crazy is that? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of warfare, I'm trying to find the quote
Speaker 5: about the Israel Hamas thing, and uh boy, if I
Speaker 5: could find it, that would be handy.
Speaker 1: But it was an about what are people calling it
Speaker 1: Gaza lago or.
Speaker 5: We're trying each one to see how it fits. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but the the person made the point. Let me see
Speaker 5: if I can find it really quickly that there has
Speaker 5: never been an instance in history where one neighbor launched
Speaker 5: an unprovoked, bloody attack against its neighbor and that attack failed,
Speaker 5: that they didn't lose their government or their sovereignty.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's true. That that doesn't surprise.
Speaker 5: Me because and if you have two brain cells to
Speaker 5: rub together and can put aside your ideology momentarily and
Speaker 5: actually listen to common sense and facts, you can't live
Speaker 5: peacefully next to a neighbor who did that, especially one
Speaker 5: who did that in the midst of trying as hard
Speaker 5: as they could to convince you that they were at
Speaker 5: peace and would never do that. How About in the
Speaker 5: moment you let down your guard, they slaughtered your people.
Speaker 1: How about this for icing on the cake. Even after
Speaker 1: you've nearly eliminated them, they still say they're committed to
Speaker 1: killing you.
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. It is impossible in the pages of history,
Speaker 5: impossible to find any people and any government who said, well,
Speaker 5: all right, you invaded us without provocation and slaughtered our people,
Speaker 5: But all right, let's let bygones begause.
Speaker 1: Let's ull get out. I realize you're still saying you
Speaker 1: want me dad and all my friends and family, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to assume you don't actually mean it.
Speaker 5: And so these soft heads, and I've been pounding this
Speaker 5: for so long. Sorry, I'll wrap it up. The idea that, well,
Speaker 5: we need to come to a ceasefire and a two
Speaker 5: state solution. What is your world?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: What color is the sky? Is there gravity there? Do
Speaker 5: animals talk and dance? Or what happens in that weird
Speaker 5: world you live in that's not Planet Earth.
Speaker 1: It's a dodge. Some of it is soft heads, some
Speaker 1: of it's used to dodge King Abdullah of Jordan yesterday
Speaker 1: when he brought it up, sitting there next to Trump,
Speaker 1: but he didn't know what to do. So Trump's going
Speaker 1: on and about how the United States will own Gaza
Speaker 1: and we'll develop it kicking Jordan's like, I'm sure he's thinking,
Speaker 1: what the hell is he actually up to? He's not
Speaker 1: actually going to do that, but what is his angle?
Speaker 1: How is this going to turn out? But anyway, he
Speaker 1: throw out at some point Jordan is only willing to
Speaker 1: move forward if the two state solutions, And I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: that gets you out of Rhetorically, it gets you out
Speaker 1: of a jam.
Speaker 5: Right, islamis nut jobs. Don't look at us, That's what
Speaker 5: he's saying.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll finish strong next. That's one of the
Speaker 1: songs Paul McCarty played last night at an impromptu pop
Speaker 1: up concert at a club in New York, which I
Speaker 1: would have loved to have been at. Oh my gosh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he opened was Hard Day's Night. He did a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of songs. I don't know, but he did. Got
Speaker 1: to get you into my life and uh maybe I'm
Speaker 1: amazed Jet get back. Let it be ended with hey
Speaker 1: Jude in some sort of encourse. That would have been
Speaker 1: a cool show at the super Bowl. That was interesting
Speaker 1: how many celebrities sit in the same section and it
Speaker 1: seems like, because did you see any of that, Like
Speaker 1: Kevin Cosker was sitting next to Pete Davidson, and I
Speaker 1: don't think they're buds. I think that like just like
Speaker 1: they probably broker tickets that super rich people do and
Speaker 1: they ended up sitting together because they put the famous
Speaker 1: people in one section or something. Would not shock me
Speaker 1: a bit.
Speaker 5: If the NFL had a very special people ticket line,
Speaker 5: there's gotta be yeah, and I would have they have.
Speaker 5: Part of it might be just they have extra security guaranteed,
Speaker 5: because you just can't have even if they went on
Speaker 5: to stub Hub and we're willing to pay a ton
Speaker 5: of money for a good seat, you just can't have.
Speaker 5: Paul McCartney's sitting in the midst of a whole bunch
Speaker 5: of Eagles fans. I mean, he'd be harassed to death.
Speaker 5: Be Selfie's hit by the batteries they chuck a bunch
Speaker 5: of battery chuckers.
Speaker 1: I'm just signing autographs and having to answer stupid questions
Speaker 1: what's jet about the whole dang game. But so they're
Speaker 1: all sitting together, I thought, like Paul McCartney and Adam
Speaker 1: Sandler are like six seats away. John back and forth
Speaker 1: won what they're talking about. I'd be fascinated to listen
Speaker 1: to those people. It's probably quite mundane, but I would
Speaker 1: still find that somewhat interesting.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's mundaneus would be interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul McCartney did not sing this song last night.
Speaker 4: Which side are you?
Speaker 1: Which side are you?
Speaker 2: Which side?
Speaker 1: You play this monstrosity several times today? It was the
Speaker 1: the worst civil rights here Row's song they were singing
Speaker 1: on the Capitol steps to try to keep Elon Musk
Speaker 1: from getting rid of rid of useless employees. Congratulations. Awful,
Speaker 1: but we got this text and it's a decent point.
Speaker 1: Why is it that the left has all the best
Speaker 1: musicians and artists in music on their side, yet they
Speaker 1: have the worst political chance? Which side are you on? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can't you get lady Gogar? You know whoever? Springsteen? Could
Speaker 1: you come up with some lyrics for me real quick
Speaker 1: instead of doing that Which side are you on? The
Speaker 1: chorus is okay, I mean it sung horribly, but it's
Speaker 1: it's the verses that they really start, you know, running
Speaker 1: into trees verses, Oh, we're out of time? Call Taylor Swift?
Speaker 1: Can you turn a breakup song into a we don't
Speaker 1: want government to shrink song? Thank you? I'll get back
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, boys, great music.
Speaker 1: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 5: Let's get a final thought from everybody the crew to
Speaker 5: wrap things up for the day, beginning with our technical
Speaker 5: director Mike Lanchlow. Michael final thought, I'm a little concerned.
Speaker 5: It's looking like where I live it's gonna be raining
Speaker 5: on Valentine's Day. That means all the red paint on
Speaker 5: my body's gonna just wash off.
Speaker 1: This really sucks.
Speaker 5: That's right, it's gonna ruin your Cupid costume. Katie Green
Speaker 5: are esteemed Newswoman as a final thought, Katie, since I'm
Speaker 5: the only one on the show that can do this,
Speaker 5: the side that I am on is the one that
Speaker 5: would slap that woman upside the head that's singing that.
Speaker 1: There you go, I've had it with that song. Under
Speaker 1: Jack a final thought for us. Yeah, I love some
Speaker 1: of these examples that Elon's bringing out, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard to top the paper Manila envelope down in
Speaker 1: the mine retirement process. Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you didn't hear that, grab the podcast Armstrong
Speaker 5: and Getty on demand. My final thoughts just flitted out
Speaker 5: of my head. Oh my final thought is a question,
Speaker 5: was that the there's a hole in the sky, why
Speaker 5: the tree one squaws lady?
Speaker 1: Or is it just like a type. I think that
Speaker 1: it's a type. They all sound like that. For some
Speaker 1: it's just like the screeching young liberal women. All could
Speaker 1: be the same person. Oh yeah, when they do a
Speaker 1: TikTok video. Yeah, they're churning them out of factories.
Speaker 2: That's holy.
Speaker 5: The side where was somebody's making money.
Speaker 1: There's sky where the tree once was.
Speaker 5: Somebody's making money. That's good stuff on your feet, Okay, awesome.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
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Speaker 1: It's right there for you. You can drop some noemail.
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Speaker 1: I gotta grab me one of them hoodies. They're come
Speaker 1: in different colors. Which side are you on, Jack? Which
Speaker 1: side are you see? Tomorrow? God? Bless America. I don't
Speaker 1: swear in public very well. But I'm strong and Getty
Speaker 1: where side are you?
Speaker 2: Don't that sounds crazy?
Speaker 1: It seems like there's a few Kings sinet slinking.
Speaker 2: For those of you that don't understand, he's taking.
Speaker 1: It to a much higher level.
Speaker 5: But I've not found myself yet in the charming burg
Speaker 5: of Swine's teeth. But I hope and you hope to
Speaker 5: see it. And it's citizens sometimes in suburb of Elco,
Speaker 5: beautiful thist time of year
Speaker 1: On that high Good luck, Armstrong and Getty.