1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: This broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty arm. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: Strong and Getty. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 3: I know he. 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Yetty. 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 4: In honor of Valentine's Day, Subway is offering buy one, 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 4: get one free sub What better way to say I 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 4: love you than I got this for free at Subway. 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: That's a decent point. Valentine Day is on a Friday 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: this year, so I don't know. I don't know how 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: to finish that. Does that mean anything? 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 5: Well, if you were thinking of going out for dinner 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 5: or drinks or whatever on Friday, because that's what you do. 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: Think again, that's a better point if you're not a 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day but just usually you go out to dinner 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: on Friday or something, not this time, right, I wouldn't, 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't, wouldn't try. I'm tempted to tell this story myself, 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: but Elon told the story in the Oval office yesterday, 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: so we'll play him. I find his speaking, I don't 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: know if it's because of his Asperger's or whatever, so 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know. I find it a little 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: difficult to follow sometimes his halting manner. But this is 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: an amazing story about how off track the government bureaucracy 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: can get in its effectiveness. And well, I'll let him 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: tell it and fill in any gaps. 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: And then we're told this is actually, I think a 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: great anecdote because we're told the most number of people 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 3: that could retire possibly in a month is ten thousand. 29 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: We're like, well, why is that? Well, because all our 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: time at paperwork is manual on paper. It's manually calculated, 31 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 3: been written down on a piece of paper. 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: Then it goes down to mine, like, what do you 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: mean of mine? 34 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, there's a limestone mine where we're still all 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: the retirement paperwork. And you look at picture of at 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: a picture of this mine. We'll post the pictures afterwards, 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: and this is this mine looks like something out of 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: the fifties because it was started in nineteen fifty five, 39 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: so it looks like it's like. 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: A time warp. 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: And then the speed, then the limiting factor is the 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: speed at which the mine, the shaft elevator can move, 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: determines how many people can retire from the federal from 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: the federal government, and the elevator breaks down and then 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: sometimes and then you can't. Nobody can retire. It doesn't 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: that sound crazy? There look a thousand people that work 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: on this. So I think if we can take those 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: people and say, like, you know what, instead of working 49 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: in a mine shaft and carrying Manila ovelopes to you know, 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: boxes in a mine shaft, you could do practically anything 51 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: else and you would add to the goods and services 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: of the United States in a more useful way. 53 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at us on a luget olive ark. 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the pictures of the mine and the 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: boxes them envelopes because that's how they process retirement in 56 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: the federal government in the year twenty twenty five. I mean, 57 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: it's really quite hilarious. About seven hundred workers operate more 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: than two hundred and thirty feet underground to process a 59 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: maximum of ten thousand federal retirement applications per month, all 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: processed by hand, using paper and stored in Manila envelopes 61 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: and cardboard boxes. 62 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 6: Yeah. 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 5: I saw the pictures too, and the fact that it's 64 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 5: a file cabinet thing is amazing enough. But why is 65 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 5: it got to be down in a mind? 66 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: I guess to keep what Yeah, the same reason they 67 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: store old films and stuff like that. Down in minds. 68 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: You can get the right humidity and all these different 69 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: sorts of things. But for so things don't decay. But 70 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: you don't need to do that anymore. I mean, I 71 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: don't know if you're familiar with the whole computerized record. 72 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: Keeping things or even air conditioners. 73 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: Apparently this has been known for quite some time. The 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: Washington Post described the facility as a sinkhole of bureaucracy 75 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: way back in twenty fourteen at the. 76 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: Time, probably defending it as a critical institution that Elon 77 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: Musk must not assault. 78 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: Probably at the time, and this is eleven years ago. 79 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: The report said the total spending on the retirement system 80 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: per year was fifty six million dollars. Multiple attempts to 81 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: digitize the system had been made since the eighties. According 82 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: to the report, each attempt largely failed and was eventually scrapped, 83 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: with the reported cost totaling over one hundred and thirty 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: million dollars. They spent we we at taxpayers have spent 85 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty million dollars trying to get away 86 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: from paper and Manila envelopes in boxes down in a 87 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: mine unsuccessfully. As Musk said, it was started in fifty five. 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: Nineteen fifty five. Looks like a time warp. It really 89 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: does it well. It looks like you're This picture must 90 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: be from when my dad was in high school, the 91 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: limiting factor being the mine shaft elevator. As he said, 92 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: my favorite part was him saying this could be remedied 93 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: with practically anything else. That's a funny thing to say this. 94 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: We love the line. We could make this better by 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: doing practically anything else. 96 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 5: And it's worth referring back to the New York Times 97 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 5: headline appearing with Trump. Musk makes broad claims of federal 98 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 5: fraud without proof. Says there's waste and fraud across the 99 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 5: bureaucracy without offering evidence. What the hell, no evident. 100 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to think. 101 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 5: I loved his line about and I guess if the 102 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 5: elevator breaks, no one can retire. 103 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: That's Michael. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard, 104 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: no I know. And what should be most striking is 105 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: there have been multiple attempts to improve it at a 106 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: cost of one hundred and thirty million dollars. They and 107 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: you couldn't because the bureaucracy is so thick and layered 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: and people I got. I gotta believe it's got a 109 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: lot to do with. Well, if we computerized it, we 110 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: would need seven hundred employees. We'd probably need like six, 111 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: maybe one, And they're the the the inertia to keep 112 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: all those people employed. It reminds me of the whole 113 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: dock worker thing that we mocked because the dock worker 114 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: unions are so powerful they want to keep having a 115 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: guy with a clipboard and a pen read the license 116 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: plate of the car rather than have a computer scan 117 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: it and do it because you got another employee and 118 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: more union does right, Well, that's that thing and needs 119 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: to get worked out. But with my tax money down there, 120 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: with the retirement records, that's insane. 121 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 5: You remember, one of the more stupid and discouraging moments 122 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 5: in American politics was when Mitt Romney referred to the 123 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 5: creative destruction of capitalism, meaning, you know, as things become 124 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 5: useless or less useful, or a better product comes along 125 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 5: or whatever, the old thing goes away. And that's not 126 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 5: a bad thing, that's a wonderful thing. But with government 127 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 5: it's the equivalent of we're still ordering our household goods 128 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 5: from the sears. Roebuck catalog and waiting six to eight 129 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 5: weeks for delivery because well, think about all the people 130 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 5: who print the catalog and work at the warehouse and 131 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 5: all those well, you know, all the chanting. We should 132 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 5: play some more of the chanting and then swearing and 133 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 5: stuff like that, and. 134 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: Sears would go away because everybody would use Amazon. No, 135 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: we can't have Seiers go away. So we're gonna fund 136 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: it somehow to keep it around, even though there's a 137 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: much better way to. 138 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 5: Do it, And so you have the equivalent to continue, 139 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: you know, going back and forth between the metaphor and 140 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 5: the reality of Chuck Schumer bellowing in the streets that we. 141 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: Are gonna fight Elon Musk trying to. 142 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 5: Take away our catalog at our sixty eight wait deliveries. 143 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: We're gotta fight. I straight, Who's with me? 144 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 5: And what was the other clip we played where they're 145 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 5: trying discoh with this idiotic song in which they're trying 146 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 5: to make reducing government waste the civil rights issue of 147 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: our time? Michael plays the idiotic song would you clip? 148 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: Which side are you on? 149 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: This is so horrible? 150 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: Side? Are you? 151 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: I apologize for playing it? 152 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: Which side are you on? 153 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: Wait till they're kicking the versus side Are you on? 154 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: Where fight against jog? Where fights? 155 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 6: No? 156 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 4: Wait landscap within our walls, We'll fight from dong to dusk. 157 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: Which side are you on? 158 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: Which side are you on? 159 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 6: Me? 160 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: Which side are you on? Which side are you on? 161 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for are unions? 162 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: It was to fat he wants sound. 163 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: Too bow to him, but we want him in jail. 164 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: Where are you? Yeah? The other one? Thank you for 165 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: asking the other one? I mean, like me, body and soul? 166 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: Are you are you can? 167 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 5: You're with the Union? 168 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: Are you a scabby musk ploodhound? Wow? 169 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: You're either with the Union or a scabby musk bloodhound. 170 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 5: But you know, sometimes you get done with a song 171 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 5: and you realize badline is as bad. 172 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: I gotta cut that. 173 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 5: I suggest you got old stop it, make it end, Michael. 174 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: That's all. 175 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 5: The other verses were plenty. 176 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm on the side that doesn't think we should have 177 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: the retirements system done by hand on paper in Manila 178 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: envelopes down in a mine anymore. That's insane. 179 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: And the whole pathetic effort to get some sort of 180 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 5: Union song to catch on in twenty twenty five. If 181 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 5: you know the history of that sort of thing. 182 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that song was not to make sure black kids 183 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: could go to school, or or black people could vote 184 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: and sell Alabama or whatever. That song was to make 185 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: sure that you keep having people fill out by hand 186 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,479 Speaker 1: paperwork and store it in a box underground. 187 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 5: Well, and as funny as that was, because it was 188 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 5: such a steaming pile, it's highly annoying because it tries 189 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: to put on the clothes of, as Jack pointed out, 190 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 5: the civil rights movement, which was a righteous cause in 191 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 5: Dace indeed, or you know, a miners' union singing a 192 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: song so everybody didn't die of black black long at 193 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 5: age forty one, you know, that sort of union movement. 194 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 5: But they're putting on the clothes of that stuff in 195 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: the name of preserving the pay of bureaucrats who don't 196 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 5: do anything as our country goes broke. Which side are 197 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 5: you on? Yeah, yeah, I got an answer for you. 198 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not Pete Seeger or Woody Guthrie. If you're 199 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: trying to argue that we need to have trans operas 200 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: in Ireland paid for by the taxpayer. 201 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 5: You know, if the Irish want a good trans opera, 202 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 5: and who among us doesn't enjoy a good trans opera. 203 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 5: The Irish need to pay for it with their own 204 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 5: the balloons or pounds or whatever rocks or whatever currency 205 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 5: they use. 206 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: Yes, more on the way, Which side are you on? 207 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: Which side are you on? 208 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: Pete Hexas second Death said a couple interesting things today 209 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: is in Brussels. I believe he said it is unrealistic 210 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: for Ukraine to get to go back to its pre 211 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: war borders, which is true, and that we are not 212 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: supporting Ukraine being a member of NATO anytime soon. So 213 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: that's where that is now. And New York Times with 214 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: an article I just started reading about how the most 215 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: brutal fighting going on right now is on Russian soil 216 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: as Russian soldiers try to dislodge that little piece of 217 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: land the Ukrainians have taken. And that's a brutal, awful fight. 218 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, there are some fairly Trump friendly diplomatic types who 219 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 5: think Hegseth saying those things out loud was just a 220 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 5: horrific mistake. I don't, and I think I understand why. 221 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 5: In a classic negotiating sense, you don't want to announce 222 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 5: in advance what you're willing to give up. 223 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: Well, that's true, but I set off the table. But 224 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: I don't have any idea where they are in the 225 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: negotiations that they may have already crossed that point. I 226 00:12:59,400 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: don't think. 227 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 5: Well, officially there aren't any negotiations, but. 228 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: What's being discussed behind the scenes, that theme, I've already 229 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: dealt with that, right, you know, conversations. I mean, that's 230 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: one of the headlines today. Trump has had several conversations 231 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: with Putin recently. I don't know to what extent we 232 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: should be deciding what Ukraine's willing to do. That's its 233 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: own separate topic. Trump may have already told Putin, yeah, 234 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: we realized they're not going to get all their country back. 235 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 236 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 5: And I just I'm so tired of the knee jerk 237 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 5: condemnation of departing from the usual way of doing things. 238 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 5: I think the usual way of doing things sometimes is good, 239 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 5: and so I'm not knee jerk in the other direction either. 240 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 5: But I don't feel any need to leap to the 241 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 5: criticism of the way they're doing things now, because so 242 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 5: much of it was not very effective. 243 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: Anyway. Well, two things on that one. Zelensky has already 244 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: said himself that he realizes they are probably not going 245 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: to get all the land back. To the pre war borders, 246 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: so he has said right two, having read the Bob 247 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: Woodward book and the David Sanger book, there's so much 248 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: that goes on that we don't know about until much later. 249 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 5: One hundred as the kids say, uh so, speaking of things, 250 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 5: people say. 251 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: Are you laughing at me? 252 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: How? 253 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? That was funny. So a couple of things. 254 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 5: From the world to work. Number one, I'm working on 255 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 5: my first ever PowerPoint except I'm not using powerpointing, using 256 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: Apple's platform, which is a keynote. I have never made 257 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 5: one of those PowerPoint style presentations in my life. 258 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: I haven't either, and with luck, I may be able 259 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: to get to the grave without having to. 260 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 5: And I've always thought it might be fun to know 261 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 5: how it's it's practically effortless. 262 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: Anybody is everything you want to be employable. It seems 263 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: like a good idea, especially now. 264 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 5: But I'm going to work very, very hard to avoid 265 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 5: the things I hate about PowerPoint presentations and that everybody 266 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 5: else hates unnecessarily fancy transitions between slides, and the slide 267 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 5: that has five points that you can read in twelve seconds, 268 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 5: but that the presenter reads for you over the case 269 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 5: of ninety seconds. 270 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always wondered, why were you doing this? So 271 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: you're telling me all this slowly? Okay, I see it 272 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: right up there. I read it already. Can we move 273 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: on please? Anyway? 274 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 5: And then this I came across in the Wall Street Journal. 275 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 5: I think this is so funny that people don't get this. 276 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 5: I'll start the way they start. Greg Fahee says there's 277 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 5: a trick that helped him recruit college athletes and make 278 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 5: friends with powerful people. When he meets someone, he repeats 279 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: their name and conversation and he writes it down his 280 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 5: phone two at his memory. But he's one of those guys. Okay, Jack, 281 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 5: would you be totally opposed to trying this out? Because Jack, 282 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 5: I hear you're worrying you do it? Why what can 283 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 5: I do for you? 284 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: Now? Three times I'm a little weird about. 285 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 5: I know, and that the article is about how the 286 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 5: vast majority of the people think that's creepy. 287 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. 288 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 5: I feel some people think it's a powerful toll. 289 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: Even the first one, I'm a little makes it a 290 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: little weird, But you get into two and three. I've 291 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: started referring to our what are you supposed to call 292 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: them other than waitresses? I've started referring to servers by 293 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: their names, and my kids really hate it. I don't 294 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: know why, but it really bothers them when I do that. Wow, Yeah, 295 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: I alway, Jenny, I'm out. Are you doing, Jenny? 296 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 5: Whenever my mom would chat with a server or whatever, 297 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 5: that just made me so uncomfortable. Do you remember why? 298 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 5: Because it drives my kid's nuts. So now I do 299 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 5: it more. It's got to be something anthropological. 300 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: Huh. It's gotta be anyway. 301 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 5: So the guy reacting to the Jack, would you be 302 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 5: totally opposed to trying this? 303 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: Jack? 304 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: Jack? I hear that you. 305 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 5: He says it was clear the person was using manipulative 306 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 5: sales tactics, and this communications professor says, it's easy to 307 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 5: see when somebody's trying to influence you by doing that. 308 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 5: I feel icky when someone says my name every other sentence. 309 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm probably I'm probably not buying whatever you're trying 310 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: to sell me. You do that? 311 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 5: Oh no, no, I'm going elsewhere. 312 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: See you? What is it? 313 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: Jim? 314 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: Jim, You'll notice I'm leaving. Jim. Now I'm walking out 315 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: the door. Jim Armstrong and Geeddy. 316 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 6: I feel like the luckiest man on earth right now. 317 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 6: And I want you to know that I am not 318 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 6: a hero in this at all. 319 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: And President Trump, this is a hero. 320 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: Mark Fogel, teacher accused of smoking dope in Russia by 321 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: the Russians. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. You never know. 322 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: They grab Americans all the time in China and Russian 323 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 1: North Korean places like that, so they can use him 324 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: as a bargaining chip for something, or he might have 325 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: been smoking dope. Who knows. 326 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 5: You don't we audit into the country anyway. 327 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: You don't get to hold an American for what four years? 328 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: How long was he there alone? Time? Long time? 329 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 330 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: Years? And first I always wonder on these things because 331 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: you know, there's uh, You've got the policy people around 332 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: any White House, and then you got the political people. 333 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sure the political people are pushing hard for 334 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: get this guy on TV. Get this guy. We need 335 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: to We need him standing next to Donald Trump. And 336 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, man, I just got out of four years 337 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: in a Russian prison, which he's about to describe what 338 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: it was like. I want to go home. I don't 339 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: want to be on Fox and Friends this morning doing 340 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: an interview with makeup and lights and waiting for the 341 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: segment to start an end. I want to be home 342 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: in my bed with my family or friends or whoever 343 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: I haven't seen in four years. Right, that seems like, yeah, 344 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on there anyway. Here is 345 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: Mark Foegel Fogel describing a little the last several years 346 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: in a Russian prison. 347 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 6: This super organism of people that came to my support. 348 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: And the love that I was given. 349 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 6: Sustain me for three and a half years. 350 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: In prison, that had me. 351 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 6: In hospitals for more than one hundred days. I was 352 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 6: given more than four hundred injections in that time, and 353 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 6: knowing I had the support of my fellow Pennsylvanians, my family, 354 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 6: my friends, it was so overwhelming that it brought me 355 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 6: to my knees and it brought me to tears. 356 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure he did a big debriefing with the CIA. 357 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: Maybe the first thing he did on the plane back 358 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: over probably four hundred injections. 359 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 5: Of what and you're held in the hospital why as 360 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 5: some sort of weird detention, more questions than answers. 361 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: But that's fine, there's time. 362 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, but good lord, four hundred injections of God knows 363 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 5: what that would scare me. Yeah, what you're a beating 364 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 5: I know how to take, not that I would enjoy it, 365 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: But then happen to me full of God knows what. 366 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: I assume he doesn't speak Russian. So somebody comes up 367 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: to you in the hospital or the prison and sticks 368 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: an eedel in your arm? You think, am I going 369 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: to be dead in thirty seconds? Or what the hell 370 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: is that? Are you doing medical experiments on me? What 371 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: the hell is going on here? Right? 372 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 5: Four hundred and was he counting them or seemed quite confident. 373 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: In his number? I have many questions. Anyway, here's Trump 374 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: talking about the whole deal that he made with Putin. 375 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 7: They were very nice, We were treated very nicely by Russia. Actually, 376 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 7: I hope that's the beginning of a relationship where we 377 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 7: can end that war and millions of people can stop 378 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 7: being killed. They've lost millions of people. They lost in 379 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 7: terms of soldiers, probably one point five million soldiers in 380 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 7: a short period of time we got to that war. 381 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 7: And I'm interested primarily from the standpoint of death. We're 382 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 7: losing all those soldiers, and then other American soldiers, the 383 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 7: Ukrainian and Russian soldiers. But you're probably talking about a 384 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 7: million and a half. I think I think we kind 385 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 7: of bring that one to an end. 386 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: So what's the angle there? So this is seen as 387 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: us getting Mark fogelback, who Putin had been holding illegally 388 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: for three and a half years, as part of the 389 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: negotiation for ending the war in Ukraine. I don't know 390 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: how it's all going to fit together. 391 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Trump absolutely understands the art of negotiation. 392 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 5: You know, you want to rattle a seller and soothe 393 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: a buyer, for instance, And he's trying to get Putin 394 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 5: to buy a good deal to in the war that spares. 395 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: Ukraine too much, you know, defeat. 396 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 5: But the idea that you could like maneuver against Putin 397 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 5: and actually buy goodwill, it's like trying to buy goodwill 398 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 5: from an alligate. I mean, I don't mind him trying. 399 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 5: It just seems, is it that every president's a bit 400 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 5: of an egomaniac and they all think they can play 401 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 5: Putin even a little bit. 402 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how how would anybody still have that belief? 403 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: And he's an evil, child, murdering monster. I'm uncomfortable with 404 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: anything even close to friendly sounding about him. 405 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, I get why Trump's doing what he's doing, but 406 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: it's it's difficult to take on a moral level. Russia 407 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 5: has treated us very well so far. Well, I guess 408 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 5: your point the beginning of goodwill. I don't think being 409 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 5: nice to him is going to get you anything. 410 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: He will react in his best interest, whether from what 411 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: he gets or what the pain he's going to avoid. 412 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: Only Yeah, like's an alligator. It's whether you call him, 413 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, evil personified or my good friend. Either way 414 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: you're going to get the same result. I think it's 415 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: just going to be all about what you know his 416 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: interests are. So I don't know why you got to 417 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: do the night anyway. So Trump just put this out. 418 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: He just tweeted this out, and I won't read the 419 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: whole thing. It's really long. I just had a lengthy 420 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: and highly provocative phone call productive. I'm sorry I shouldn't. 421 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: That's funny. That was in my head. I just had 422 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: a lengthy and highly productive phone call with President Vladimir 423 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: Putin and Russia. We discussed Ukraine, the Middle East, energy, 424 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, the power of the dollar, and various other subjects. 425 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: We both reflected on the great history of our nations 426 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: and the fact that we fought so successfully together in 427 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: World War Two, remembering that Russia lost tens of millions 428 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: of people and we likewise lost so many. It's all 429 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: this stuff is just We each talked about the strengths 430 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: of our respective nations and the great benefit that we 431 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: someday will someday have in working together. But first we 432 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: as we both agreed, we want to stop the millions 433 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: of deaths taking place in the war with Russia Ukraine. 434 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: President Putin even used my very strong campaign campaign motto 435 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: of common sense in all caps. We both believe very strong, 436 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: only in it. Putin is going to agree to this 437 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: if it's in something he agrees to. I mean, like 438 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: he's okay with period. 439 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 5: In any negotiation, there's probably a little bit around the margins. 440 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 5: You can increase or decrease with goodwill, but not with Putin, 441 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 5: not even a little. This is just the way Trump 442 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 5: does business. Though, Yeah, this is interesting. We have also 443 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 5: agreed to have our respective teams start negotiations immediately, and 444 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 5: we will begin by calling President Zalynsky of Ukraine to 445 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 5: inform him of the conversation. Well, I'm guess he'll be 446 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 5: pleased to know other people are figuring out how much 447 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 5: of his country. He has to give away thanks for 448 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 5: the jingle, something which I will begin doing right now. 449 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 5: So he's going to jump on the phone with Zelensky. 450 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 5: I've asked Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Director of the 451 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 5: CI John Ratcliffe. He goes through a bunch of other 452 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 5: people to lead the negotiations, which I feel strongly will 453 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 5: be successful. Millions of people have died in a war 454 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 5: that would not have happened if I were president, but 455 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 5: it did happen, so it must end. Yeah, you know, 456 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 5: in Trump's defense, the Ukrainians have tried everything up to 457 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 5: and including a horrific, bloody war to get Russia out 458 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 5: of their country, and that hasn't worked. So you know, 459 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 5: now the US is going to step back. He hasn't 460 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: worked with the cooperation hasn't worked, within my opinion, tepid 461 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 5: support that could have been much more forceful, and all 462 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 5: of the things we eventually gave him could have come 463 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 5: much earlier and could have made all the difference in 464 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 5: the war, and they might have actually gotten their land back. 465 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 5: We'll never know what a horrible, horrible president eventually agreeing 466 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 5: to all these things. Why didn't you do it earlier? 467 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 5: Because he was so scared of Putin using nuclear weapons, 468 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 5: I guess m. But you know, as I've been saying 469 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 5: since this whole thing started, I'd rather the rest of 470 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 5: the world was more scared of us than we are 471 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 5: of them. I think right now the world is more 472 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: scared of us, scared of us than we are of them. Yeah, yeah, Well, 473 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 5: there's no way this thing ends in a way that's 474 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 5: not just absolutely heartbreaking and disappointing and disgusting. Just that's 475 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 5: the nature of these things. 476 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: And millions of lives it died for no reason whatsoever. 477 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, as is often the case. 478 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 5: In war, mostly because of Putin's Tsarist dreams. Well, he 479 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 5: wants to be what William the Conqueror or Henry remember 480 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 5: that whole thing? 481 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: Which book was it that I read? I think this 482 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: was the Woodword book. But during COVID Putin was so 483 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: scared of getting COVID he went down into the archives 484 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: underneath the Kremlin and started reading through old papers and stuff, 485 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: going back to like Peter the Great, that they still 486 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: have under there, and convinced himself of some noble position 487 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: Russia should have in the world, and it's his job 488 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: to get it back. Because of sitting down there by 489 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: himself reading through, you know, three hundred year old paperwork. 490 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: How crazy is that? Right? Yeah? 491 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 5: Well, speaking of warfare, I'm trying to find the quote 492 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 5: about the Israel Hamas thing, and uh boy, if I 493 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 5: could find it, that would be handy. 494 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: But it was an about what are people calling it 495 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: Gaza lago or. 496 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 5: We're trying each one to see how it fits. Yeah, 497 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 5: but the the person made the point. Let me see 498 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 5: if I can find it really quickly that there has 499 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 5: never been an instance in history where one neighbor launched 500 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 5: an unprovoked, bloody attack against its neighbor and that attack failed, 501 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 5: that they didn't lose their government or their sovereignty. 502 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's true. That that doesn't surprise. 503 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 5: Me because and if you have two brain cells to 504 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 5: rub together and can put aside your ideology momentarily and 505 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 5: actually listen to common sense and facts, you can't live 506 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 5: peacefully next to a neighbor who did that, especially one 507 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 5: who did that in the midst of trying as hard 508 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 5: as they could to convince you that they were at 509 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 5: peace and would never do that. How About in the 510 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 5: moment you let down your guard, they slaughtered your people. 511 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: How about this for icing on the cake. Even after 512 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: you've nearly eliminated them, they still say they're committed to 513 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: killing you. 514 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. It is impossible in the pages of history, 515 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 5: impossible to find any people and any government who said, well, 516 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 5: all right, you invaded us without provocation and slaughtered our people, 517 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 5: But all right, let's let bygones begause. 518 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: Let's ull get out. I realize you're still saying you 519 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: want me dad and all my friends and family, but 520 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to assume you don't actually mean it. 521 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 5: And so these soft heads, and I've been pounding this 522 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 5: for so long. Sorry, I'll wrap it up. The idea that, well, 523 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 5: we need to come to a ceasefire and a two 524 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 5: state solution. What is your world? 525 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: Like? 526 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: What color is the sky? Is there gravity there? Do 527 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 5: animals talk and dance? Or what happens in that weird 528 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 5: world you live in that's not Planet Earth. 529 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: It's a dodge. Some of it is soft heads, some 530 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: of it's used to dodge King Abdullah of Jordan yesterday 531 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: when he brought it up, sitting there next to Trump, 532 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: but he didn't know what to do. So Trump's going 533 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: on and about how the United States will own Gaza 534 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: and we'll develop it kicking Jordan's like, I'm sure he's thinking, 535 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: what the hell is he actually up to? He's not 536 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: actually going to do that, but what is his angle? 537 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: How is this going to turn out? But anyway, he 538 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: throw out at some point Jordan is only willing to 539 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: move forward if the two state solutions, And I thought, okay, 540 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: that gets you out of Rhetorically, it gets you out 541 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: of a jam. 542 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 5: Right, islamis nut jobs. Don't look at us, That's what 543 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 5: he's saying. 544 00:29:48,440 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: All right, we'll finish strong next. That's one of the 545 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: songs Paul McCarty played last night at an impromptu pop 546 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: up concert at a club in New York, which I 547 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: would have loved to have been at. Oh my gosh. Yeah, 548 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: he opened was Hard Day's Night. He did a whole 549 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: bunch of songs. I don't know, but he did. Got 550 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: to get you into my life and uh maybe I'm 551 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: amazed Jet get back. Let it be ended with hey 552 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: Jude in some sort of encourse. That would have been 553 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: a cool show at the super Bowl. That was interesting 554 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: how many celebrities sit in the same section and it 555 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: seems like, because did you see any of that, Like 556 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Cosker was sitting next to Pete Davidson, and I 557 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: don't think they're buds. I think that like just like 558 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: they probably broker tickets that super rich people do and 559 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: they ended up sitting together because they put the famous 560 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: people in one section or something. Would not shock me 561 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: a bit. 562 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 5: If the NFL had a very special people ticket line, 563 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 5: there's gotta be yeah, and I would have they have. 564 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 5: Part of it might be just they have extra security guaranteed, 565 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 5: because you just can't have even if they went on 566 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 5: to stub Hub and we're willing to pay a ton 567 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 5: of money for a good seat, you just can't have. 568 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 5: Paul McCartney's sitting in the midst of a whole bunch 569 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 5: of Eagles fans. I mean, he'd be harassed to death. 570 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 5: Be Selfie's hit by the batteries they chuck a bunch 571 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 5: of battery chuckers. 572 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm just signing autographs and having to answer stupid questions 573 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: what's jet about the whole dang game. But so they're 574 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: all sitting together, I thought, like Paul McCartney and Adam 575 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: Sandler are like six seats away. John back and forth 576 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: won what they're talking about. I'd be fascinated to listen 577 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: to those people. It's probably quite mundane, but I would 578 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: still find that somewhat interesting. 579 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's mundaneus would be interesting. 580 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul McCartney did not sing this song last night. 581 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: Which side are you? 582 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: Which side are you? 583 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: Which side? 584 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: You play this monstrosity several times today? It was the 585 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: the worst civil rights here Row's song they were singing 586 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: on the Capitol steps to try to keep Elon Musk 587 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: from getting rid of rid of useless employees. Congratulations. Awful, 588 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: but we got this text and it's a decent point. 589 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: Why is it that the left has all the best 590 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: musicians and artists in music on their side, yet they 591 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: have the worst political chance? Which side are you on? Really? Yeah? 592 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: Can't you get lady Gogar? You know whoever? Springsteen? Could 593 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: you come up with some lyrics for me real quick 594 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: instead of doing that Which side are you on? The 595 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: chorus is okay, I mean it sung horribly, but it's 596 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: it's the verses that they really start, you know, running 597 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: into trees verses, Oh, we're out of time? Call Taylor Swift? 598 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: Can you turn a breakup song into a we don't 599 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: want government to shrink song? Thank you? I'll get back 600 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: to you. 601 00:32:50,920 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, boys, great music. 602 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 1: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. 603 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 5: Let's get a final thought from everybody the crew to 604 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 5: wrap things up for the day, beginning with our technical 605 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 5: director Mike Lanchlow. Michael final thought, I'm a little concerned. 606 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 5: It's looking like where I live it's gonna be raining 607 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 5: on Valentine's Day. That means all the red paint on 608 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 5: my body's gonna just wash off. 609 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: This really sucks. 610 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 5: That's right, it's gonna ruin your Cupid costume. Katie Green 611 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 5: are esteemed Newswoman as a final thought, Katie, since I'm 612 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 5: the only one on the show that can do this, 613 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 5: the side that I am on is the one that 614 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 5: would slap that woman upside the head that's singing that. 615 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: There you go, I've had it with that song. Under 616 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: Jack a final thought for us. Yeah, I love some 617 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: of these examples that Elon's bringing out, but it's gonna 618 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: be hard to top the paper Manila envelope down in 619 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: the mine retirement process. Oh my god. 620 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you didn't hear that, grab the podcast Armstrong 621 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 5: and Getty on demand. My final thoughts just flitted out 622 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 5: of my head. Oh my final thought is a question, 623 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 5: was that the there's a hole in the sky, why 624 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 5: the tree one squaws lady? 625 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: Or is it just like a type. I think that 626 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: it's a type. They all sound like that. For some 627 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: it's just like the screeching young liberal women. All could 628 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: be the same person. Oh yeah, when they do a 629 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: TikTok video. Yeah, they're churning them out of factories. 630 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: That's holy. 631 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 5: The side where was somebody's making money. 632 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: There's sky where the tree once was. 633 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 5: Somebody's making money. That's good stuff on your feet, Okay, awesome. 634 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. 635 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 5: Don't you know If you go to Armstrong a Getty 636 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 5: dot com you can find the hot links there all 637 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 5: sorts of articles and videos and stuff that we referenced. 638 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: It's right there for you. You can drop some noemail. 639 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 5: Bag at Armstrong and Getty dot com, pick up some 640 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 5: swag at the Ang store. The Adidas hoodies very very popular, 641 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 5: probably the link to the podcast there too. 642 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: I gotta grab me one of them hoodies. They're come 643 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: in different colors. Which side are you on, Jack? Which 644 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: side are you see? Tomorrow? God? Bless America. I don't 645 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: swear in public very well. But I'm strong and Getty 646 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: where side are you? 647 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: Don't that sounds crazy? 648 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: It seems like there's a few Kings sinet slinking. 649 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: For those of you that don't understand, he's taking. 650 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: It to a much higher level. 651 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 5: But I've not found myself yet in the charming burg 652 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 5: of Swine's teeth. But I hope and you hope to 653 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 5: see it. And it's citizens sometimes in suburb of Elco, 654 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 5: beautiful thist time of year 655 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: On that high Good luck, Armstrong and Getty.