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Speaker 1: this episode of Turning Points Tonight.

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Speaker 2: My name is Jobob. Thanks so much for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: This is Turning Point Tonight, where we are charting the

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Speaker 1: course of America's cultural comeback. Remember, you can always email

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Speaker 1: about our mail bag. But first we have to get

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Speaker 1: to this. I personally would like to wish a very

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Speaker 1: happy birthday to Obamacare. And by a very happy birthday,

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Speaker 1: I mean please die and go away because everything in

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Speaker 1: the healthcare world has gotten more expensive. I don't need

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Speaker 1: but I would imagine you can feel it in your wallet.

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Speaker 1: Since Obamacare was signed in twenty ten and then implemented

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Speaker 1: Tens of millions of Americans have been enrolled, but at

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Speaker 3: Brand How you doing, I'm doing well, man, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: So just your thoughts overall right, We've seen Obamacare and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree one thousand percent. You know, my mama

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Speaker 1: Considering that, well, I don't want to have to pay

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Speaker 1: You know what, I've always wondered why the Libs aren't

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Speaker 5: The court said the people have to go back, and

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Speaker 1: House talking about well, you know, obviously the American people

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Speaker 6: Yeah, terrible for these businesses and terrible for the American

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Speaker 7: Big day today here coming out of the White House.

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Speaker 7: You've also had the health sector as well. Did he

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Speaker 7: We know that.

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Speaker 7: So it's a very big day for Hun Daid.

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Speaker 6: And you also don't have just the American businesses. You

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Speaker 6: You also have other companies coming into this country, the

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Speaker 1: Wow, Monica, that actually sounds like that's going to be

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Speaker 1: great for the American people. Huh, That's not what I

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Speaker 6: No. I mean it's funny that you mentioned that, because

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Speaker 6: So now that we're doing things domestically, this will drive

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like again another win for the Maya people,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: That is Monica Page, our turning point, White House Correspondent.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring our panelist back in. Panelists one panelist Brandon Tatum,

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Speaker 1: the Man, the Myth, the Legend, you know, Brandon, I

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Speaker 1: can see into your mind and I know what you're thinking.

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Speaker 1: I just wish there was a Don Lemon Joy Read

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Speaker 1: tag team duo.

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Speaker 2: Of a podcast. That's all I need in my life.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know you wanted it, and then I wanted it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I'm not sure if the American people wanted it,

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Speaker 1: That thing is funny. So play this clip and will

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Speaker 7: Oh, Grandy Trump, let's talk.

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Speaker 8: Let's talk.

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Speaker 9: First of all, you can't make Canada the fifty first

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Speaker 7: To war with them. And let me explain how that.

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Speaker 10: Happened, how that worked out. The last time we tried

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Speaker 10: to go to war with Canada.

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Speaker 9: They burned the White House to the ground in eighteen

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Speaker 9: fourteen and.

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Speaker 1: Won the war.

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Speaker 9: Canada beat us in the War of eighteen twelve. They

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Speaker 9: to do that. You'd have to occupy a country that

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Speaker 2: We gonna lose, all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, aside from the fact of nobody wanting to hear

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some stats really quick, and I'll

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Speaker 1: get your cobts. By the way, I do not want

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Speaker 1: to go to war with Canada. I don't think anyone

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Speaker 1: actually does. But if we're playing the premise out as

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Speaker 1: Jorid Reid stated it, currently, the United States has a

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Speaker 1: two point one million total US personnel, including active duty

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Speaker 1: So we have two million more US personnel in the military.

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Speaker 1: We spend thirty two times more than Canada does on defense,

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Speaker 1: and as far as specifics go, tanks, we outnumber them

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Speaker 1: five thy five hundred to seventy four fighter jets nineteen

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Speaker 1: on and on. Brandon a lot of stuff. One, how

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Speaker 3: Two?

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Speaker 2: What the heck is she saying?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I think I lost some brain

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Speaker 4: sale listening to these two idiots, especially that milk good.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what she was doing in her Maybe

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Speaker 4: I don't know what plan is she's living on. But

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Speaker 4: last time I checked, Canadians don't have any guns, so

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Speaker 4: we don't even need our military. Just a few patriots

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Speaker 4: can go over there and sweep the whole country, if

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Speaker 4: you want to be honest. And then, not only are

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Speaker 4: we better than them, we're stronger than them. We are

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Speaker 4: We also have the baddest military ever known to human mankind.

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Speaker 4: I mean you talk about the Marine Corps alone, I

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Speaker 4: enact whatever conflict we want to on anybody that we

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Speaker 4: want to. So I don't know what she's smoking. I

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Speaker 4: don't know what planing she living on I don't know

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Speaker 4: what rock. She just came out up from under, but

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Speaker 4: she is completely losing her mind. And it's shameful that

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Speaker 4: a person like this views our country so poorly. I mean,

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Speaker 4: can of It is the size of maybe one of

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Speaker 4: our states, maybe California.

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Speaker 3: There's fifty states, it's the size of one of them.

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Speaker 4: And to think that America doesn't have the fortitude to

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Speaker 4: take them out in in an instance is absolutely asinine

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Speaker 4: to me. The only reason we haven't because I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's politically reasonable for us to add more senators

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Speaker 4: and have some representatives who are going to be all

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Speaker 4: left this nut job, so we wouldn't need to incorporate

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Speaker 4: them anyway, because it'll make our country worse. However, when

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Speaker 4: you put two mindless people that have, you know, extreme

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Speaker 4: amounts of Trump arrangement syndrome, this is what you get.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like your point there. Yeah, we don't even

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Speaker 1: need to send the military. We'll just send all of

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Speaker 1: the dudes from Florida or the South just to go

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Speaker 1: up there and just make it happen.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: This is not We're not a proponent of war with Canada,

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Speaker 1: just saying if you're gonna put it in that context.

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Speaker 2: We gotta gotta set the record straight.

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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on this briefly before

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Speaker 1: we have to wrap up door Dash, right, we've all

467
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Speaker 1: use door Dash values, duber Eats, whatever, you know your

468
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Speaker 1: food delivery service of choice. DoorDash is now offering effectively

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Speaker 1: the ability for users to take out a loan in

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Speaker 1: order to buy a burrito. They've teamed up with Klarna,

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Speaker 1: who will charge DoorDash users no interest. They will charge

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Speaker 1: late fees before I think thirty days. Kind of the

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Speaker 1: specifics are a little bit up in the air, you know,

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Speaker 1: just thirty thousand foot view brand. And what does this

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Speaker 1: say about the American people and their relationship with their

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Speaker 1: own finances that some people think it's a good business

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Speaker 1: idea to get DoorDash effectively on layaway.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is the epitome of the ridge keep getting richer, Okay.

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Speaker 4: So the people who are rich and wealthy, they understand

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Speaker 4: that if you give a person the idea that they

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Speaker 4: can pay over time, many people are going to miss

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Speaker 4: their payment.

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Speaker 3: So therefore you're going to make more money on fees.

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Speaker 4: But also people that can't afford it if they can

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Speaker 4: prolong the payment.

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Speaker 3: They do it.

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Speaker 4: They do it in the cell phone companies already, where

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Speaker 4: they can prolong your payment with no interest. The thing

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Speaker 4: is that majority of people are gonna miss a payment,

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Speaker 4: They're gonna get a ton of fees, and then people

491
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Speaker 4: are gonna begin to buy things that they can't afford

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Speaker 4: because they can prolong the payment over time. So the

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Speaker 4: rich people in the marketing people of door dash are

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Speaker 4: absolutely genius. They're gonna have an increase in sales. However,

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Speaker 4: the people who can't afford to pay it up front

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Speaker 4: can't afford it anyway. And to be honest, you can

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Speaker 4: just get up and go to the grocery store instead

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Speaker 4: of prolonging a payment with a fee on it, because

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Speaker 4: last time I checked, and we overuse door dash in

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Speaker 4: my family for sure, but last time I checked, there's

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Speaker 4: fees and carryer fees, and they'll try to kill you

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Speaker 4: if you don't give them a tip. And so why

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Speaker 4: would you think it makes sense as a regular person

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Speaker 4: to say I can't afford to get anything delivered, but

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Speaker 4: yet I'm gonna do it anyway over a short amount

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Speaker 4: of payments. I think it's the epitome of how people

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Speaker 4: are not good with money or they're not smart with

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Speaker 4: their money, and the country for the middle class people

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Speaker 4: are gonna go into a tremendous amount of debt and

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Speaker 4: end upending so much any more fees than they should have.

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Speaker 4: And that's just that's what capitalism is. The thing is

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Speaker 4: that you got to be smarter than that, and you'll

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Speaker 4: be the one making money versus the one losing money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think there's a lot of people, especially

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Speaker 1: on the Internet, that are like, oh, we shouldn't allow this,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think I'm not sure if you'd agree,

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Speaker 1: but let me know if you don't. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it should be legal to do. And I hope these

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Speaker 1: people don't do it.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: You don't even necessarily outlaw something for people to not

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Speaker 1: take participate in it.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: Is that is that fair?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: This is capitalism, Okay.

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Speaker 4: If you if you are too lazy or you want

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Speaker 4: to buy back your time, whichever one it is, and

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Speaker 4: you decide to use a service where you don't have

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Speaker 4: to go to the store to do it. That's what

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Speaker 4: we do with our family. I don't have time to

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Speaker 4: waste in the grocery store anymore. You know, time is

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Speaker 4: money for me, so I would love to give somebody

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Speaker 4: an opportunity, a job to go and pick groceries and

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Speaker 4: give them a tip on the back end. However, you know,

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Speaker 4: you got to think of it both ways. We not

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Speaker 4: making you do it if you don't have the money.

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Speaker 4: You should be reasonable as an adult to say I'm

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Speaker 4: just going to drive to the grocery store and pick

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Speaker 4: my own groceries.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, you shouldn't ban stupidity.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you want to be dumb enough to

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Speaker 4: buy a Louis Baton bag and you can't afford.

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Speaker 3: It, that's on you. You have to be smart enough,

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Speaker 3: and you know what, you know what.

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Speaker 4: It helps people because they have to learn a lesson,

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Speaker 4: you know, be better with your financier. You're gonna go

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Speaker 4: into debt, okay, So we shouldn't try to handicap people.

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Speaker 4: The Lord has given us free will, so we need

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Speaker 4: to give people free will and capitalism and let them

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Speaker 4: make their own mistakes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I wish you could ban stupidity, but

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Speaker 1: you're right, you just can't. Brandon Tatum, Hey, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for taking the time and joining us.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Love to have you back sometime.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, God bless you. Guys, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on turning fourth tonight, we have a clip

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Speaker 1: from Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast Don't go ahead, will

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Speaker 1: be right back after this.

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Speaker 11: Why should every church have a fitness ministry.

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Speaker 12: You've got a bunch of people at the church who

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Speaker 12: are in a kind of state in their life where

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Speaker 12: they're struggling with their nutrition, their exercise, their health habits overall,

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Speaker 12: and this is a place where they feel comfortable. Right,

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Speaker 12: like a lot of folks in their church. I know

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Speaker 12: about me, and maybe it's the same for you. This

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Speaker 12: is a place where you take advice and you run

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Speaker 12: with some of it.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 12: You're being discipled, you're being built up in your faith,

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Speaker 12: you're sorting through some of the issues in your life.

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Speaker 12: You're in this community, and so there's this sense of

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Speaker 12: safety and allowance to be vulnerable. Meant, so much of

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Speaker 12: that applies on the health journey. In order to really

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Speaker 12: transform your life, you have to be willing to be vulnerable.

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Speaker 12: You need to feel somewhat safe what you're doing where

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Speaker 12: you're doing it at a lot of folks don't feel

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Speaker 12: that at the gym. That's such a huge opportunity for

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Speaker 12: the church because not only do you get to serve

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Speaker 12: people in your congregation that feel that way and that

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Speaker 12: are struggling with these things, but also the community around

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Speaker 12: your church. I mean, there's a lot of folks that

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Speaker 12: will not come to a Sunday service, but they will

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Speaker 12: show up in your parking lot and do burpies and

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Speaker 12: play games and listen to loud Christian music that they

587
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Speaker 12: don't even know what it's talking about, but it's fun.

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Speaker 12: I know that because of the fitness ministries that I've run,

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Speaker 12: So there's just there's so much opportunity within the congregation,

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Speaker 12: but then also just within the community. It's a miss ministry,

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Speaker 12: and I think every church should have a fitness ministry.

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Speaker 11: I think that Christians, almost more than any other group,

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Speaker 11: have the worst mentality when it comes to health.

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Speaker 7: Is that fair?

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Speaker 12: Possibly, because when I think of the church, when I

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Speaker 12: say the church, although the true church is all the believers, right,

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Speaker 12: I think of like local bodies, right, And then I

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Speaker 12: also think of the organizations. But I'm talking the church

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Speaker 12: having an unhealthy relationship with health and fitness. I'm talking

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Speaker 12: about the organization, like the leadership, like what's being prioritized

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Speaker 12: on the agenda throughout the year and whatnot. It is

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Speaker 12: kind of far left to think about health and fitness,

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Speaker 12: and so there's not a really good relationship with it

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Speaker 12: at all. It's just it's kind of dismissed. It's kind

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Speaker 12: of seemingly irrelevant. And yeah, so in that sense, I

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Speaker 12: would agree with you that they have pretty bad practices.

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Speaker 12: But then also because we are primarily focused on the

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Speaker 12: spiritual wellbeing and mental well being, we have this mindset,

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Speaker 12: which rightly so, is to deny yourself, take up your cross,

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Speaker 12: and follow Jesus. I think in our minds for a

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Speaker 12: lot of folks that denial of self is almost translated

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Speaker 12: into neglect subconsciously, right, Like nobody intentionally is like I

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Speaker 12: am just going to neglect my physical needs. But if

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Speaker 12: I'm reading my Bible, I'm going to church, I'm in

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Speaker 12: community groups and praying, I'm worshiping, I'm doing all these things.

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Speaker 12: Why does it matter what else I like? But the

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Speaker 12: body it's going to die anyways, right, And so we

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Speaker 12: can in a sense be so heavenly minded that we're

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Speaker 12: no earthly good. We're not doing some of the things

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Speaker 12: that are so vital to where we are right now.

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Speaker 12: And that is just essential. So I really could go

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Speaker 12: on and on about why it's so significant, and I'm

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Speaker 12: sure we'll talk about this more, but I would agree

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Speaker 12: with you that Christians have a pretty bad relationship with

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Speaker 12: health and fitness. It's easy to fix when we go

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Speaker 12: about it the right way.

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Speaker 11: Is there evidence in the Bible to support this idea

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Speaker 11: that stewardship of our body should be part of our

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Speaker 11: faith journey?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 12: I mean, when you look at First Corinthians six nineteen

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Speaker 12: through twenty, that our body is a temple of the

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Speaker 12: Holy Spirit, whom we have within us. We're not our own.

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Speaker 12: We're bought with a price. Glorify God in our body.

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Speaker 12: I mean, that's not beaten around the bush. That's pretty direct, right.

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Speaker 12: So the basis for me living a healthy life is

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Speaker 12: now going to be my faith in Jesus. It's not

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Speaker 12: going to be the mirror or the scale.

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Speaker 13: Or any of that.

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Speaker 12: Whereas maybe that was the reason before, that was the foundation.

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Speaker 12: I want to look a certain way, I want to

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Speaker 12: feel a certain way. I have all of my reasons

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Speaker 12: and they're pretty much bound up in the physical element

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Speaker 12: of my life. Well, now, as a follower of Jesus.

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Speaker 12: Everything is about Him. Whether I eat or drink or

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Speaker 12: whatever I do, I do to the glory of God,

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Speaker 12: is what scripture says. So how am I going to

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Speaker 12: glorify God if I'm sick, if I'm not taking good

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Speaker 12: care of my body. So if everything that I'm doing

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Speaker 12: is for His glory, why on earth would my health

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Speaker 12: and fitness not be a part of that.

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Speaker 11: Have you heard Christians use Matthew fifteen eleven as an

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Speaker 11: excuse of why this stuff doesn't matter? So to those

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Speaker 11: listening Matthew fifteen eleven, it is not what goes into

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Speaker 11: the mouth of a man that makes him unclean and defiled,

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Speaker 11: but what comes out of the mouth, this makes a

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Speaker 11: man unclean and defiles him.

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Speaker 7: So they're like, it is about I don't mean what

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Speaker 7: I want.

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Speaker 11: It's not about that is if I'm nice to people

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Speaker 11: and everything, that's all that God cares about.

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Speaker 12: People don't use that as much as they use Fir

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Speaker 12: Timothy four A like physical training is of little value,

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Speaker 12: of no value, but godliness is a value for all things.

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Speaker 13: Both of those. You have to take it out of context.

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Speaker 12: The scripture you mentioned in Matthew, and then first Timothy,

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Speaker 12: you have to take it out of context. Who's being addressed.

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Speaker 12: Whenever you're reading the Bible, you have to look at

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Speaker 12: what is the author's intended meaning, who's being spoken to,

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Speaker 12: Why are they saying what they're saying, what was going on?

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Speaker 12: Read the scriptures before that, like, actually look at what's

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Speaker 12: going what's being addressed right now? And so no, of course,

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Speaker 12: what we put into our body is not what spiritually

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Speaker 12: defiles us as though we were like eating unclean foods

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Speaker 12: like pork and whatnot. So if you look at you know,

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Speaker 12: levitical law, you look at the people of Israel and

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Speaker 12: what they're thinking about when this is being addressed, there

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Speaker 12: was a law there so you could eat defilement upon yourself.

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Speaker 12: That is not an excuse to like binge on Wendy's

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Speaker 12: every day. Like that's not the same thing at all.

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Speaker 12: When we say eat healthy, eat God made foods, whole foods,

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Speaker 12: take good care of your body. That is not specifically

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Speaker 12: a matter of spiritual cleanness or defilement. That's a matter

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Speaker 12: of you stewarding the measure of health God gave you.

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Speaker 12: It's not a whole different plane. If you take that

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Speaker 12: scripture and justify an unhealthy undisciplined lifestyle. You have to

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Speaker 12: contradict a whole lot of other scriptures.

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Speaker 11: Do you hear people say things like, well, God is

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Speaker 11: sovereign and so therefore he just knows when I'm gonna die.

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Speaker 11: That's already been decided, so I can eat what I want.

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Speaker 11: This isn't a big deal to care about seed oils.

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Speaker 12: I think people in the back of their minds maybe

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Speaker 12: kind of feel like justified. God is sovereign, he knows.

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Speaker 12: I almost hear more agnostics and atheists kind of talk

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Speaker 12: like this. Christians don't say things like that, but they

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Speaker 12: do things that make you believe they think like that. Right, So,

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Speaker 12: if God is sovereign, if God knows all these things,

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Speaker 12: like he knows like you know, what's going to happen

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Speaker 12: to me anyways, I can't extend my life or shorten

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Speaker 12: my life by how I live.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 13: Well, the truth of the matter is like.

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Speaker 12: If I walk in front of a car tomorrow, I

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Speaker 12: went against the will of God and I took my

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Speaker 12: own life, right, I took that matter into my own hands.

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Speaker 12: That's a very serious issue, right, And talking about that,

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Speaker 12: even as I speak, the mood drops and it's like,

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Speaker 12: WHOA that was heavy, dude, Like, why are you even

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Speaker 12: bringing that up. Well, if somebody over a period of

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Speaker 12: years slowly just sedentary lifestyle, eating foods that are harming themselves,

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Speaker 12: they're aware of things that are killing them, but they

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Speaker 12: keep doing it anyways, they're gradually taking their own life.

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Speaker 12: You see people that are making themselves sicker and sicker

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Speaker 12: and not doing anything about it, and then falling into

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Speaker 12: these you know, sugar addictions and food addictions and whatnot

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Speaker 12: over time. It's like you are shortening your life and

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Speaker 12: you're aware of it and you're not doing anything about it.

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Speaker 12: I see that just as serious as if you were

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Speaker 12: to say, okay, like my life isn't worth it whatever, right,

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Speaker 12: Because in some way, shape or ford, it may not

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Speaker 12: be this immense sadness or depression or you know, emotional

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Speaker 12: drive to live an unhealthy lifestyle. But in the back

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Speaker 12: of your mind, if it's a lack of self worth,

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Speaker 12: a lack of self esteem, or ignorance towards what you're

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Speaker 12: doing to yourself and you're not you're not striving to

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Speaker 12: get past that, then I see that as man. You're

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Speaker 12: almost you're making a decision whether you think you are

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Speaker 12: or not.

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Speaker 7: Well, it seems sinful to me.

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Speaker 13: It is sinful.

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Speaker 11: But you know what's interesting is that churches have no

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Speaker 11: issue talking about things like finance with their futurvation and

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Speaker 11: talking about how like you could be living in sin

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Speaker 11: if you're not getting your money in order. But then

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Speaker 11: this conversation is neglected, like if we had the same

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Speaker 11: conversation like, well, God is sovereign, he knows when I'm

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Speaker 11: going to die, so I can spend all my money.

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Speaker 11: It doesn't really matter, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 11: nobody's making mad argument for money. What are the biggest

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Speaker 11: misconceptions that churches have about their role in promoting physical

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Speaker 11: health amongst their congregation.

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Speaker 12: I think that this is something that people see as

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Speaker 12: like the gym's responsibility, like take care of that outside

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Speaker 12: of here. So in terms of the way the church

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Speaker 12: in my experience, I can't speak for every church, because

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Speaker 12: there are some churches that are like they have gyms

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Speaker 12: at their church, right, So I don't want to generalize

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Speaker 12: the church. There are a lot of churches doing really

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Speaker 12: great things, but a majority in terms of their role

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Speaker 12: in promoting health and fitness is kind of just totally

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Speaker 12: neglect or not seen as something that's relevant, not seen

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Speaker 12: as something that has to happen. So let's think about this.

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Speaker 12: I started hosting fitness classes back in twenty fifteen. I

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Speaker 12: was training a couple of years before that. I went

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Speaker 12: to my pastor and said, Hey, I would love to

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Speaker 12: start a fitness ministry here at the church. And this

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Speaker 12: was me wrestling after a couple of years of feeling

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Speaker 12: like I was stepping away from doing things that God

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Speaker 12: cared about to train people, and praying, God, give me

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Speaker 12: an opportunity to serve you make a living doing it,

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Speaker 12: Like I want to tie these two together there, And

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Speaker 12: he showed me some things in Moses regarding just his

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Speaker 12: staff and how it was used originally for his occupation,

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Speaker 12: and now God was using that same staff and turn

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Speaker 12: it into a snake, and he lifted up and he's

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Speaker 12: split in the Red Sea and he's freeing the people

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Speaker 12: of Israel with this thing that represented once his occupation.

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Speaker 13: Now he's using a vocation. I'm like, okay, I.

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Speaker 3: Can do this.

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Speaker 12: I can use my clipboard, if you will, right, my

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Speaker 12: personal training as a tool for the church. So I

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Speaker 12: went to the pastor said I want to start a

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Speaker 12: fitness ministry, and he was for it. He saw it

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Speaker 12: because he was more focused on the community. That church

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Speaker 12: had alter calls and people would come up and they'd

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Speaker 12: pray about their sickness, and he's, you know, pastors here

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Speaker 12: all kinds of stuff, man, all all week long. They're

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Speaker 12: they're getting it. And so he knew there were a

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Speaker 12: lot of folks in the church struggling with their health.

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Speaker 12: He saw that as an opportunity to promote something that

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Speaker 12: was missing. There was there was a gap, there there

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Speaker 12: was a hole, and it was an opportunity and that

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Speaker 12: was his mindset. So I do believe that church leaders

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Speaker 12: have to have that kind of mindset of instead of

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Speaker 12: like what is this taking from my ideas or what

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Speaker 12: we want to be doing, as opposed to what opportunity

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Speaker 12: does this create?

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Speaker 13: Like how does this serve people?

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Speaker 12: Even more so, and when you have that mentality, you

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Speaker 12: see the role and the responsibility of promoting health and

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Speaker 12: fitness from a whole new light. Truly dedicated to the

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Speaker 12: people in your congregation, truly dedicated to those people and

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Speaker 12: those families. You're going to say, hey, look, they have bodies,

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Speaker 12: they have health issues, Like folks here are struggling. Let's

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Speaker 12: be more preventive in the way that we care for

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Speaker 12: them instead of waiting till they're in the hospital to

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Speaker 12: now go visit them.

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Speaker 1: the French wanting their statue of liberty back to which

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Speaker 1: Biden back?

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Speaker 1: Somebody commented on drugs, what do you mean he's fighting back?

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Speaker 1: We don't have a ton of time, but we want

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Speaker 1: to play a couple of these clips. Let's let's play

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Speaker 2: Play Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Clip two, America Methical.

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Speaker 10: Methical.

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Speaker 2: So if you're just listening to this on the podcast

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Speaker 1: Those guys jumping back and forth Canada America, Canada because

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Speaker 1: they don't have a border wall, which we should to

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Speaker 1: keep those dirty Canadians out.

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Speaker 2: The guy's kind of doing the same thing a well

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Speaker 2: Mexico America.

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Speaker 1: It turns out he can never actually leave Mexico because

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Speaker 2: Hilarious. We do have time for this.

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Speaker 1: This This may make some of you upset, but we'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why it shouldn't and we should be glad

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Speaker 1: that lives are letting us know where we should or

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Speaker 1: shouldn't spend our money. Watch this clip, Magan Monday, check

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Speaker 1: it out.

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Speaker 10: I have a question, No for money? Why get why?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 2: Because you're a Jump supporter.

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Speaker 7: I know that.

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Speaker 9: Don't you guys want our money?

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Speaker 1: No? Actually, we don't.

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Speaker 10: Get out of my bar right now. You're not well,

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Speaker 10: I'm not looking around.

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Speaker 8: Get out of my bar.

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Speaker 2: As serious out.

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Speaker 6: Because I'm aren't a true Yes, that's why I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Get out.

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Speaker 11: We can't call it please or you know this is

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Speaker 11: like discrimination.

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Speaker 7: Right you get out of my bar.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I recognize that that make may make some people upset,

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Speaker 1: but let's look at the bright side of this. We

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Speaker 1: are no now in full understanding of cool. We don't

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Speaker 1: need to spend our money here wherever that bar was,

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Speaker 1: wherever that bartender was, fine, we don't have to give

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Speaker 1: you another dime. And I think that is a good thing. Second, well,

880
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Speaker 1: if it doesn't count as discrimination to not allow people

881
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Speaker 1: in based on their political leanings, anybody with blue hair

882
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Speaker 1: or you know, one of those dumb we stand with

883
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Speaker 1: the people T shirts or I don't know, the pro abortionist,

884
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Speaker 1: maybe we don't have to serve those people. I don't

885
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Speaker 1: know if that'll stand up in court, but according to

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Speaker 1: this video, maybe it will.

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Speaker 2: So really appreciate all.

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Speaker 1: These tuning in sticking around. We'll be back same time tomorrow,

889
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Speaker 1: same place. Charlie Kirk is going to take us out

890
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Speaker 1: here again. See you tomorrow, same time, same place.

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Speaker 2: God bless America.

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Speaker 10: This weekend I had the opportunity to listen to the

893
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Speaker 10: entirety of the Ezracline Show podcast. Ezracline is a very smart,

894
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Speaker 10: honest liberal. He's been incredibly critical the Democrat Party since

895
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Speaker 10: the election in November. As Recline previously created a thing

896
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Speaker 10: called wonk Blog at the Washington Post. Later, he founded

897
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Speaker 10: Vox alongside people like Matt Iglesias. He perfectly represented the

898
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Speaker 10: white male millennial era of the Obama era. It was

899
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Speaker 10: very smug, was overconfident in part because they thought that

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Speaker 10: left wing victory was completely inevitable. If you listen to

901
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Speaker 10: Pod Save America, it is four of those guys that

902
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Speaker 10: just talk about how right they are the entire time.

903
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Speaker 10: After the two thousand and eight election and the subsequent

904
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Speaker 10: twenty twelve election of Barack Obama, people like Ezra Kline

905
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Speaker 10: looked at the numbers and said, old people are conservative,

906
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Speaker 10: young people are liberal, so the future will be liberal.

907
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Speaker 10: That is a very fair and honest analysis. There's one

908
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Speaker 10: thing they did not count on. They did not count

909
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Speaker 10: on the grittiness and the hustle of Turning Point USA.

910
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Speaker 10: Did not count on the millions of students that actually

911
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Speaker 10: want to have a future and the ascendant political force

912
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Speaker 10: of President Donald Trump. Now, as Recline, who is the

913
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Speaker 10: premier explainer of things on the left, is stuck trying

914
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Speaker 10: to explain why that didn't happen. So we had a

915
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Speaker 10: Democrat stattician by the name of David Shore on his program.

916
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Speaker 10: The reason we are leading with this today everybody is

917
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Speaker 10: that there is a generational restructuring happening. It's so obvious

918
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Speaker 10: to us on this program. We've been warning about this

919
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Speaker 10: for the last couple of years, not just warning about it,

920
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Speaker 10: celebrating it. I've been coming in the chair here on

921
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Speaker 10: this program, in real America's voice on the Salem Radio Network,

922
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Speaker 10: telling you, guys, there's something happening on these campuses. There's

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Speaker 10: something happening with the next generation. The crowds were drawing

924
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Speaker 10: the views that we are garnering, and reporters would scoff

925
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Speaker 10: at it. Oh, come on, what are you saying? You're

926
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Speaker 10: going to win young people? And Democrats took the next

927
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Speaker 10: generation so for granted. And what is remarkable is that

928
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Speaker 10: it is sticking. This is not just a Trump phenomenon.

929
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Speaker 10: This is a wide spread restructuring, a widespread realignment. By

930
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Speaker 10: the way, if you want to know why Democrats lost,

931
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Speaker 10: here's one of several actual explanations. In twenty twenty, David

932
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Speaker 10: Shore was fired from the left wing analytics company he

933
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Speaker 10: worked at because he made a tweet saying that George

934
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Speaker 10: Floyd Riots might hurt Democrats politically, the very same guy

935
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Speaker 10: that we're about to watch.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 10: This is something that we've been saying on this program

938
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Speaker 10: for quite some time, we are ahead of the curve.

939
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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 10: We see the trajectory and we lead it. We are

941
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Speaker 10: the leading indicator here on this program. And all of

942
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Speaker 10: you and this audience understand that we are not followers.

943
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Speaker 10: We are pace setters, the tip of the spear, understanding

944
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Speaker 10: that the zeitgeist will be made here on this program.

945
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Speaker 10: As reclined in The New York Times. They follow the

946
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Speaker 10: lead of the Charlie Kirk Show, They follow the lead

947
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Speaker 10: of War Room, They follow the lead of what we

948
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Speaker 10: are doing with our turning point USA groups on campus

949
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Speaker 10: and their process and information saying, what do you mean

950
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Speaker 10: The New York Times doesn't set the trend anymore? It

951
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Speaker 10: doesn't The New York Times is reporting on months old data. Now,

952
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Speaker 10: the significance of this, everybody, is that you are dealing

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Speaker 10: with a completely different political climate than any time that

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Speaker 10: you have been alive since Ronald Drake. In fact, if

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Speaker 10: you take an average twenty something volder voter, that is

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Speaker 10: a young man and an average seventy five year old man.

957
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Speaker 10: And we've said this on this program, and it drives

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Speaker 10: some baby boomers a little bit nuts. And of course

959
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Speaker 10: this audience exempt from that the paradigm shift is so

960
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Speaker 10: remarkable that the twenty year old is more conservative than

961
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Speaker 10: the seventy five year old. Let me say that again,

962
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Speaker 10: that the twenty year old is more concerservative than the

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Speaker 10: seventy five year old. Don't believe me. Here is Ezra

964
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Speaker 10: Kline and David Shore, who are pulling their hair out

965
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Speaker 10: going through all of the numbers, trying to process how

966
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Speaker 10: on earth is it that the young men the next

967
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Speaker 10: generation are more conservative than their grandparents. Now, let me

968
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Speaker 10: just take a pause for I play this piece of tape.

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Speaker 10: If me mentioning that bothers you, it should actually give

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Speaker 10: you great hope. If you're seventy five and you find

971
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Speaker 10: out that your colleagues that are boomers are more liberal

972
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Speaker 10: than your grandkids, it actually means that you're going to

973
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Speaker 10: be handing off a country that is more conservative. Good job,

974
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Speaker 10: you guys, did well, a good legacy. Yes, your fellow

975
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Speaker 10: boomers are trending left, but your grandkids are taking a

976
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Speaker 10: hard right turn. There, you could say, see the tens

977
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Speaker 10: of thousands of students that attend are outdoor campus events,

978
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Speaker 10: tens of thousands. We don't just react to culture. You

979
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Speaker 10: are part of a movement that is shaping it, creating it,

980
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Speaker 10: and pushing it forward. And it was delicious this weekend

981
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Speaker 10: listening to smugman ezraclined have to explain to the millions

982
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Speaker 10: of New York Times elite academics what we have helped

983
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Speaker 10: make happen play cut seventy five.

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Speaker 8: One of the things you can see here is if

985
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Speaker 8: you just look at eighteen year olds, eighteen year old

986
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Speaker 8: women of color are the only of the four that actually,

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Speaker 8: you know, voted to Harris one. Trump narrowly won you know,

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Speaker 8: non white men.

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Speaker 13: So I do find this part of this chart shocking.

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Speaker 14: I sometimes talk about narrative violations, and I think if

991
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Speaker 14: we knew anything about Donald Trump eight years ago.

992
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Speaker 13: Is that young people did not like him.

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Speaker 14: But if you look at this chart, among white men

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Speaker 14: who are seventy five years old supported Kamala Harris at

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Speaker 14: a significantly higher rate than white men who are twenty

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Speaker 14: years old, that's exactly right. That's a real shift. It

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Speaker 14: is a real shift.

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Speaker 8: This is the thing I am the most shocked by,

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Speaker 8: I think in the last four years is that young

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Speaker 8: people have gone from being the most progressive generation since

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Speaker 8: the Baby Boomers, and maybe in some ways more so

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Speaker 8: to becoming potentially the most conservative.

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Speaker 10: The most conservative. I have no idea who would have

1004
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Speaker 10: made that a stated goal. You're telling me for the

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Speaker 10: first time you see what you're witnessing. There is a

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Speaker 10: PhD left wing struggle session as they're trying to go

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Speaker 10: through the data and they're being honest in front of

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Speaker 10: the audience, and they're one of the few people on

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Speaker 10: the left that actually goes into the data. And let

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Speaker 10: me repeat again that an average twenty year old white

1011
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Speaker 10: man is far more conservative than their seventy five year

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Speaker 10: old grandparent. Six