WEBVTT - ​P​ublic Display of Dysfunction ("Bye Bye Billy" S1 EP 24)

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<v Speaker 1>Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello friend, how you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>I know?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you good as you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you can see I have a different background behind

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<v Speaker 2>me with a lot of accolades. I might say this

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<v Speaker 2>is my uh my half brother's mom and her husband's

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<v Speaker 2>basement and office and baby rooms, so they kind of

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<v Speaker 2>I could have this for my podcast needs. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>baby bassinette and all kinds of other stuff over there,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm much. It's all pink and soft. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a girl. She's adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>And who's a girl, Daphney? Do you want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>us who's my niece? Yay?

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<v Speaker 2>Well could you say? Your name's Zoe?

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<v Speaker 1>Daphne's an auntie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm exciting Auntie Zoe. Yeah, it's uh And so a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of family and friends are coming by. We're up

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<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco where they live where I was born,

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<v Speaker 2>oh a few years ago. Yeah, remember last episode. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Chuck was there and he's like, we would be

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<v Speaker 2>writing and going, oh that's a Melrose moment.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode should be called Poor Allison, Bye Bye Billy

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<v Speaker 1>slash Poor Alison.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay, so bye bye, Billy it we'll do

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<v Speaker 2>a brief recap here. We open up on Marina del Rey,

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<v Speaker 2>which is our marina in La and it's on some

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<v Speaker 2>sail boats and beautiful water, and the camera pans up

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<v Speaker 2>this very fancy for nineteen ninety two, very modern high rise,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we cut inside and we have we see

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<v Speaker 2>these close ups of coffee being poured, toast being buttered,

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<v Speaker 2>flour putting in a vase, the paper being folded and

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<v Speaker 2>put it on a tray. So we don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>it is. But then we pull out and hands are

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<v Speaker 2>walking this tray and it's a who walks into or

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<v Speaker 2>opens her bedroom door and there is a naked Billy

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<v Speaker 2>in her bed. So they had a lovely evening and

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<v Speaker 2>she's just like adding tulips to coffee and toast and

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<v Speaker 2>she's in heaven. And so there they are getting frisky

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<v Speaker 2>again and she gets a call and it's her dad,

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<v Speaker 2>and her dad said he's coming to town. So she goes, oh, good,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a good chance for my dad to meet Billy,

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<v Speaker 2>my new boyfriend. But Billy says, well, no, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a plan to see a play with Alison. And she's

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<v Speaker 2>like oh, come on, nuzzles his neck, talks her out

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<v Speaker 2>of it, talks him out of to his previous commitment. Alison,

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<v Speaker 2>she is mugged when she's walking to her car at

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<v Speaker 2>night after the play. And a little aside behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 2>that head the head thug guy who grabbed you and

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<v Speaker 2>pushes you against the fence. That's Lee Ehrenberg, who I

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<v Speaker 2>went to UCLA with and who's like the sweetest guy

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<v Speaker 2>ever meet, sweetest man. You remember, I do?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he's the sweetest man, Lee Arenberg. He's done a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of work and he usually plays those kind of

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<v Speaker 2>characters because he has that kind of like menacing look,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's like a big teddy bear anyway. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>a very traumatic situation for Allison, and she continues to

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<v Speaker 2>have flashbacks and fear throughout the rest of the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's Keith who is kind of there for her,

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<v Speaker 2>and Billy's not so much there for her. So you see,

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<v Speaker 2>with Keith in the picture and with this need that

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<v Speaker 2>she has, we see Billy kind of like, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess he has her. So he goes moves towards Amanda,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Allison sees that you know, well, he's at

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<v Speaker 2>Amanda's all the time, says to Keith, why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>want to move into my place? I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be alone. So she's very fragile now after this experience,

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<v Speaker 2>and she says, Billy's never there, so why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>move into the apartment and he says, well, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, i'd look to. Simultaneously, we have Joe and

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<v Speaker 2>Jake are trying to navigate. He has the motorcycle shop now,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's trying to figure out how she can be

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<v Speaker 2>a partner not step on his toes, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of comes to a nice compromise at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>But she also tries to help her friend who's been

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<v Speaker 2>traumatized by this robbery and does it her way and

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<v Speaker 2>takes her to a shooting range and Alison will have

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<v Speaker 2>none of it, is freaked out by the guns, and

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<v Speaker 2>Joe's kind of gearly getting into it that Allison's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be waiting in the car. I can't do this

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<v Speaker 2>gun thing. So that didn't work, and then Joe tells

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<v Speaker 2>Jake later that she has a gun and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to get rid of it. She will, And

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<v Speaker 2>then we also have Rnda and Terrence, and Terrence wants

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<v Speaker 2>to decorate this big mansion that he bought and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go meet the decorator that I hired.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's like okay, and she goes over to his

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<v Speaker 2>new mansion and it's none other than her old roommate,

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<v Speaker 2>Carrie aka Raydon Tong. He plays her again.

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<v Speaker 1>That was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, c D crazy roommate and they have a whole

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<v Speaker 2>jealousy triangle that they'll have to work out. So this

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<v Speaker 2>really is about navigating the different pairings and of course

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<v Speaker 2>at the end everybody. We have the saddest scene in

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<v Speaker 2>cinematic history when Belly finds out that Keith has moved in.

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<v Speaker 2>So he figures, well, my time is here.

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<v Speaker 1>Second only to Casablanca, but serious second only.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe yeah, maybe it was close, though it was close.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. If we're in the oscars, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think BILLI and Allison scene may have won, just.

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<v Speaker 1>Got nominated for very few oscars. I think we do

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<v Speaker 1>need to point there's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Couple of reasons for that. We can get into that

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<v Speaker 3>in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now that we're streaming on Paramount Plus, we probably

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<v Speaker 2>would be eligible anyway. Uh, but yeah, that's a sad,

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<v Speaker 2>sad scene. So get your Kleenex and box of wine people,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're gonna need it.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye Bye Billy, Bye Bye Billy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's that's where we end the episode. And

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<v Speaker 2>I like we said, let's jump in.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great summary Daphne.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice and brief, but really well done, so everyone should

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<v Speaker 2>watch it. I just want to reminder.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think the main point that we'd all

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<v Speaker 1>like to agree on is there was way too much

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<v Speaker 1>making out with Billy and Amanda. I think the main

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<v Speaker 1>point we want to make enough of that, am I right?

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<v Speaker 1>Enough of that right now?

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<v Speaker 4>I will say there there was less of it than

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<v Speaker 4>the last episode, which is much more of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I noticed the nuzzling, Yes, yeah, because it really

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<v Speaker 1>is slightly less pain for me, your only marker of success,

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<v Speaker 1>slightly less pain for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just trying to break it to you that, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>there was the making out, but to be honest, it

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<v Speaker 4>was less than last episode. I'm still very sad for Alison,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know much I'm rooting for Alison, and I

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<v Speaker 4>am such a spectator in this in these episodes, like

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<v Speaker 4>when you say, Daphne that we hope people are watching

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<v Speaker 4>these old shows. It is so fun for me to

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<v Speaker 4>go back that I'm watching a show I never saw, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I'm truly an audience member in these first

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<v Speaker 4>in this first season, and so I'm getting invested in

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<v Speaker 4>these characters. And of course I'm rooting for my friends

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<v Speaker 4>Courtney and Daphney, but I'm really rooting for Alison during

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<v Speaker 4>this stretch of time where I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean funny also watching that scene court you and I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking, Wow, I'm really feeling like like I feel

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<v Speaker 2>so sad and that, and I was like, oh, they're

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<v Speaker 2>dating these she's they're using, they're using emotional connection and

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<v Speaker 2>probably and imagining like never saying like saying goodbye, like Billy,

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are both so good. Andrew was really good too.

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<v Speaker 2>I really felt it.

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<v Speaker 1>What a weird reality I was watching the What a

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<v Speaker 1>weird reality. We probably drove to work together. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>goes and makes that with Heather and I go mack.

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<v Speaker 2>Out with and then we.

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<v Speaker 1>Get back in the car, drive home, hopefully make out

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<v Speaker 1>with each other. Maybe we're just tired at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were like, I've had about it.

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<v Speaker 4>You could reality that you can truly see in this

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<v Speaker 4>episode that Alison, the character is annoyed by Keith and

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<v Speaker 4>not really very warm and fuzzy. She's like talking herself,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is what I'm watching, and I'm the audience member,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm like, this is just what I observe.

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<v Speaker 3>I see Alison not very.

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<v Speaker 4>Interested in Keith, and she's settling and she's just okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And then somehow he manages to like come be the

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<v Speaker 4>hero when she's in a dark and scary time in

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<v Speaker 4>her life and he happens to be there, and she's

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<v Speaker 4>just grateful for that presence, but it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not really she doesn't really like him.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I see.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet when.

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<v Speaker 4>She's with Billy, it's just warm and fuzzy and perfect

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, like there's chemistry and you like each

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<v Speaker 4>other and both and it's so sad to see the

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<v Speaker 4>relationship that they're not choosing to have be the one

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<v Speaker 4>that's so obviously better on screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the first scene with Keith and Allison when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so far over to the side of the car,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost hanging out.

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<v Speaker 2>I look about to jump back. Is my car sick?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I literally look sick and so close and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>but am I really so close.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was a good four feet away in a

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<v Speaker 3>car and you were.

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<v Speaker 2>The notes I made on that scene were that he

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<v Speaker 2>was harassing you for like and mocking you and teasing

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<v Speaker 2>you and being starcastic like, oh, we're just but buddies,

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<v Speaker 2>We're just pals, you know, and really, and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was so annoying, like mocking you and being sarcastic

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<v Speaker 2>because you want to go slowly and you're like, do

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<v Speaker 2>you not remember I don't trust you, because like he

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<v Speaker 2>never told you he was married before, but remember she

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<v Speaker 2>delivered okay, well do you what do you need the papers?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm divorced. I just thought he was yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I think Allison was too, because all those lines

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<v Speaker 4>that she delivered in that scene were so were that

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<v Speaker 4>same level of annoyance.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, he was like literally it did feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it was going like this, and then this trauma happens

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<v Speaker 2>to Alison, and so then he's there to save her.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't it there for her? Over and over?

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't it make you sort of wonder like did Keith

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<v Speaker 4>somehow orches straight all this to su I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 4>no spoilers here because I don't know where this is going.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he does loan her his car car. She says

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<v Speaker 1>she needs to feel like it's not that I really care.

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<v Speaker 1>I just my car's in the shop. Like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care that you're not going to play with me my cars.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I'm fine going alone. So he knows she's going alone.

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<v Speaker 4>He's she's in the borrowed car and you know, going

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<v Speaker 4>to the theater district and and all this stuff, and

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<v Speaker 4>like just conveniently he's there when she's going down into

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<v Speaker 4>the scary laundry room too, like when she thought the

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<v Speaker 4>lights burned out? Is that so is that just a coincidence?

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<v Speaker 4>Or to watch this is my this is my weariness

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<v Speaker 4>level of Keith. I don't trust him at all. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't like him at all. And Chuck said very clearly

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<v Speaker 4>they needed a villain, they needed a conflict, and like villain.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Keith villain? Definitely?

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<v Speaker 4>I see him as villain, even though you know they're

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<v Speaker 4>painting it like, oh, this is a relationship for Alison

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<v Speaker 4>as an audience member.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm taking it very personally. How on Alison's side

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<v Speaker 1>you both are? It really feels like that great conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's the worst, you're the best. So we really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it as a I really appreciate the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>But you guys, the writers aren't dumb what you're feeling, Laura,

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<v Speaker 2>as an audience member, as you say, I am two,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all feeling it. I think they you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>have specific lines and they're writing it in there. It's

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So we got to see why well be revealed. You

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<v Speaker 4>sound like you know where it's going. I don't, and

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm super excited. I find out this is just what.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>But I forgot this. So Alison goes to play gets mugged.

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<v Speaker 1>That scene was terrifying. I completely forgot it. I sort

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<v Speaker 1>of remembered it after, but like hanging on the fence

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<v Speaker 1>and crying like I didn't remember that at all.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they grab her, they grab her purse and

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<v Speaker 4>take the key and.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he takes you by that back of your

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<v Speaker 2>head and over to the.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, shoves your face into the fence. It's it's terrifying,

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<v Speaker 4>totally trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes me wonder if Keith set it up, because you're

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely right, He's there for every moment, and it felt

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<v Speaker 2>like the Lee Ehrenberg character made it extra scary for

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<v Speaker 2>you to make a bully, and I do remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because I just saw Lee rewatching Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 1>for the thousands time and he has, remember, has that

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<v Speaker 1>fight with Kramer over the parking space. So if people

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember who he is, the guy who's arguing with

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<v Speaker 1>Kramer over the parking space.

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<v Speaker 2>He was amazing in that too.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do remember how incredibly sweet he was, which

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<v Speaker 1>is great because it was really scary. But so often

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<v Speaker 1>don't you find those guys who played that have guys

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<v Speaker 1>are the sweetest guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the sweeting you in between. Yes, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to practice, you know, you have to go over the

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<v Speaker 2>blocking and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was surprised, like she couldn't get her key.

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<v Speaker 1>I just assumed watching it that she would get her

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<v Speaker 1>key in time and go in the car. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just as shocked as you or Laura having seen her

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time when she got grabbed and really scary.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was shot in that way that's really startling

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<v Speaker 4>and frightening, like that tone in Melrose's place. We're going

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<v Speaker 4>to see it in subsequent seasons, like it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>come up a lot. I think a lot of you know, traumatizing,

0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.040
<v Speaker 4>scary stuff happens, especially to the women, as we know.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think this is kind of you know, although

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<v Speaker 4>Billy was he had his car, you know, beating attack

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<v Speaker 4>thingy too. This is a really scary, like the music

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<v Speaker 4>is scary. It continues through the episode with the laundry

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<v Speaker 4>room and she's going down and she's really fearful, and

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<v Speaker 4>just the tone of everything about the show, with the

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<v Speaker 4>music and.

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<v Speaker 2>Also the camera shots. I mean, no, forget that's Victoria Hope.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so good at bringing out the emotion. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think she uses like steady cam or handheld a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>so that when you use steadycam or handheld, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like locked off on a tripod. You feel vulnerable because

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<v Speaker 2>it's moving with you. There's no That's what I felt

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<v Speaker 2>in that scene. And also down in the laundry room,

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<v Speaker 2>there's movement to it, so there's this like creeping feeling

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And also it's always scary to go down into a

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<v Speaker 1>dark laundry room, right like go down into your basement,

0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:27.920
<v Speaker 1>go down into a dark laundry room.

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<v Speaker 2>But didn't you think so?

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<v Speaker 1>So Alison goes down into the dark laundry room. The

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<v Speaker 1>lights are out, she hears a noise. Keith comes down,

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<v Speaker 1>of course her savior. She says, I'm so scared. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so scared, And I literally said, what about your laundry?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, didn't we start to You're going to help you

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<v Speaker 4>with your laundry, right, I can't I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Abandons the load of laundry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm thinking, yeah, you're traumatized, and why would you

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<v Speaker 2>go down in that moment. I'm trying to imagine it

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<v Speaker 2>will maybe if I go down in the launderroom and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll feel better if I do my laundry right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that'd be like in bed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would say forget it. I can do laundry

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<v Speaker 4>tomorrow on the light day. But she must have clearly

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<v Speaker 4>known there's like another light switch at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 4>the stairs, very conveniently, so I'll just like bravely venture

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<v Speaker 4>down and hit this southern light switch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's trying to be brave. There's a line like

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<v Speaker 1>later on which just got me. It made me laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>Start when when Keith says, and I wrote here, Keith

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<v Speaker 1>is very sweet and thoughtful post mugging. I'm almost rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for him, like he's saying all the right things.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually said.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about being strong, being brave. Let me be

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<v Speaker 1>all those things for you, at least for tonight. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wanted to hit him because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really taking advantage of Alison's vulnerability, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Trying to pat himself on the back. I will shoulder

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<v Speaker 4>this all for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But he did say the right things right like he

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<v Speaker 1>said it was so scary, don't worry about the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he really did say all the right things. So

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<v Speaker 1>I understood.

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<v Speaker 2>Why.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, and how about that scene when so it's post mugging,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the next morning and Alison and Keith are holding

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<v Speaker 1>hands in the doorway and Billy comes in and he

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<v Speaker 1>has no id to what happened. He's just coming and

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<v Speaker 1>apologizing for the play, and he says, how is the play?

0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.480
<v Speaker 1>And Allison goes, I don't remember. It all kind of

0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.640
<v Speaker 1>slipped my mind once I got carjacked, and I was like, oh,

0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:17.040
<v Speaker 1>she's a master of passive aggression. And then and then

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<v Speaker 1>she walks up and she and he goes, I didn't hear.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, I tried to reach you, and plays the

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<v Speaker 1>message and she's sobbing and saying, basically, I've just been

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<v Speaker 1>attacked and enjoyed there for me.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, listen to it for yourself, and she leaves

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<v Speaker 2>with Keith and he's living listening. Poor Billy's by himself,

0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:44.840
<v Speaker 2>hearing you don't traumatize. Yes, He's like, what did I do? Yeah? Yeah, yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And then you know, alongside this, Billy's navigating his thing

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<v Speaker 4>with Amanda, Who's who's really catching on that he's preoccupied

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<v Speaker 4>with his feelings about Alison and stuff. And she's going,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you don't seem like somebody who just thinks

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<v Speaker 4>of her as a friend. You seem to be thinking

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<v Speaker 4>of her an awful lot, you know, this guilt over

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<v Speaker 4>her not being there for her.

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<v Speaker 1>And how about that shot when when they're in the

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<v Speaker 1>sculpture garden, which sculpture garden that's kind of cool from

0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:14.479
<v Speaker 1>place is that?

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<v Speaker 2>And I come in and it's this naked.

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<v Speaker 1>Torso of this woman in bronze and we're driving in

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<v Speaker 1>and she's talking, we're driving in. The shot is coming

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<v Speaker 1>in and you see them coming up in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you notice in this scene she says someone

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<v Speaker 1>who loves you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know that they love each other? Have they

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<v Speaker 1>said the L word yet?

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<v Speaker 4>That came out and even Billy didn't say anything about it,

0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:41.800
<v Speaker 4>and we're going, excuse me, is that is that a

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<v Speaker 4>thing we.

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<v Speaker 2>Missast moving fast?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know that was the elder.

0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.040
<v Speaker 2>And even and before that when he meets the dad,

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<v Speaker 2>what about that scene that was hilarious, Like Amanda's father

0:17:55.680 --> 0:18:02.840
<v Speaker 2>is teaching Billy the things about whiskey scotch, whiskey scotch, and.

0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:05.120
<v Speaker 3>He's like, well, I drink beer and I'm a camp driver.

0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.359
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like wrong. Thing he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't trying very hard to make a good impression.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he knew how to be honest. Yeah,

0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.040
<v Speaker 2>he was like, well i'd drive out, well, I like beer.

0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was being so sweet, like he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>putting on airs.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think it was he like didn't care to

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<v Speaker 4>impress him. He was like not going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Try, well that was that would be dumb. I think

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<v Speaker 2>so too dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so true.

0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Like Amanda, You've just said, You're like it's like dumb,

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<v Speaker 2>like do something. Isn't he smarter?

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<v Speaker 4>But like, I don't know, just he was a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit like almost defiantly sort of challenging Amanda's dad and

0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:47.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't like I don't like Scotch.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a beer drinker.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that is kind of dumb if you're gonna try

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<v Speaker 4>to make a good impression. So I conclude, well, then

0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.400
<v Speaker 4>he just wasn't trying, because.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to bring this back to me again.

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<v Speaker 2>I just realized. Yesterday after saying hi to the baby,

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<v Speaker 2>David and I went to One A Vista, which is

0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:08.000
<v Speaker 2>a famous Irish pub here in San Francisco next to

0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Giadelli Square. It's where Herbcane went all these writers. And

0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I had an Irish coffee Irish whiskey, and David had

0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a Guinness so beer drinker Irish And then I looked

0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.199
<v Speaker 2>the clock. It was like eleven am.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd probably been up for hours.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been up for hours watching over the baby. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so exhausted. It's five o'clock summer. He goes so meanly.

0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Her dad goes to her asa as an aside in

0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the kitchen and says, like, we'll see how long this lies.

0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:42.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's not for you. Wayne Tippit is the actor

0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.439
<v Speaker 4>who plays Amanda's dad. He's so great and yeah he's.

0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Great another millions and everything.

0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's just he was perfect but it.

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<v Speaker 1>Does feel early, like I know we snuck in that

0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Amanda loves Billy, but it does feel early for him

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<v Speaker 1>to meet her dad right, like, So it's all happening

0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.440
<v Speaker 1>very very fast, that that real ship is taking off.

0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Billy and Alison and Keith are moving quickly because of

0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>her trauma.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the end of the episode, she's going to

0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:14.359
<v Speaker 4>suggest he moves in. Yeah, it's moving fast. Yes, you know,

0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.680
<v Speaker 4>we don't talk about the L word, but we're also

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.240
<v Speaker 4>moving in together super fast.

0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Well I feel like, yeah, I don't know, And it

0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:26.040
<v Speaker 2>feels doesn't it feel like driven by Amanda this close

0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.320
<v Speaker 2>close close? Doesn't it feel like she's like I want

0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:33.640
<v Speaker 2>him and doesn't feel like it's so pushed and initiated

0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:37.400
<v Speaker 2>by Billy. Yeah, it feels like, yes, okay, Well she's gorgeous. Yes,

0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I dig this, and my roommate slash woman that I

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.200
<v Speaker 2>really love is you know, back in Keith's life.

0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:48.159
<v Speaker 1>So also, she's so seductive, like you said, Daphnie started

0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.280
<v Speaker 1>off with her making a breakfast in bed. She's so

0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:54.520
<v Speaker 1>gorgeous obviously, and she's more sure than it doesn't.

0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:54.679
<v Speaker 2>Look it like.

0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Remember you know, Heather said she felt old coming on

0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the show. She doesn't look any older than anybody else,

0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.520
<v Speaker 1>but she definitely is more sophisticated. He looks like an

0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:06.159
<v Speaker 1>axe like boy next to her, so I think he

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.160
<v Speaker 1>just sort of is letting her lead the way. Who

0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't like on who could say no to her. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, so beautiful, I'll do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure he's not. You're right, she is in spite of

0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:18.320
<v Speaker 2>how he was.

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.640
<v Speaker 4>But she was driving that and saying all right, we're

0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.240
<v Speaker 4>in this, I love you and you.

0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Should move in, and you know that was What do

0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you think is the competition for her? Like how much

0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of it is stealing Billy from Allison?

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<v Speaker 2>Or am I sort of looking into the future. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're looking like you're projecting. Yeah, I think you,

0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Allison are projecting.

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<v Speaker 1>Your lines are really blurred for someone Alison does it

0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:45.439
<v Speaker 1>like Andrew Billy, Amanda, Heather Courtney, Elison.

0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Courtney's really offended by this whole thing.

0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:53.480
<v Speaker 2>For Alison, I do think there's touches of that those

0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Melrose moments where she's like, well, you know, kind of

0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:01.240
<v Speaker 2>gives them ultimatums and nuzzles Isna and like, you know,

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll take you away from her. But I don't think

0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:06.639
<v Speaker 2>it's fully that. I think she really digs them from

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 2>the very first episode, way back on what twenty one twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they had more of this, like this scene and

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 1>you pointed out, Daphne, I'm still mad at you for

0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.720
<v Speaker 1>it when they're ice skating and it's so sweet and

0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of rooting for them, Still mad at you

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:20.800
<v Speaker 1>for it. But in this one, they're walking down, you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting a hot dog and a dirty dog.

0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:24.640
<v Speaker 2>A dirty dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Heah, there's dirty others in her, like really fitted sexy plaid.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the dichotomy, a clothing dichotomy.

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<v Speaker 2>She's got this.

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<v Speaker 1>Sexy red plaid suit with a half jacket and a

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<v Speaker 1>tight skirt, and I've got this huge plaid jacket. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that jacket though, and I remember thinking it was

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<v Speaker 1>so cool because had huge shoulder pads that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>hung halfway down my arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it was like an ll bean or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you like, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was now that we're talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I literally had a vague memory of this. It

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<v Speaker 1>was because I was so scared. Yeah, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>kept that jacket.

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<v Speaker 2>You're still wearing it, come on now. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>scene daft.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this was a scene between you and me

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm folding sheets.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought the same thing, like did she just come

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<v Speaker 4>over and like you happen to be folding laundry at

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 4>the times they're like, hey, help me fold this laundry

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 4>and let's chat.

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<v Speaker 1>But doesn't it look like I'm folding up like a

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<v Speaker 1>bed that had been on the couch.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very confusing to me.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like you folded or you were just folding

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.440
<v Speaker 4>the laundry in the living And.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember things we've said this before early on

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 2>in our podcast, like well, what can she be doing?

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Or you're saying we walk on set, you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>your tea or your water going, well, what am I doing?

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.879
<v Speaker 2>Expecting somebody there? So they're like well, and then they're like, well,

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 2>we got to do it over here. Well let's do

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:41.359
<v Speaker 2>she's folding laundry. And I don't even know if they

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<v Speaker 2>tied it into the laundry scene earlier episode No, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe or maybe that's what it was and we

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<v Speaker 4>didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh she didn't get it.

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>But I'm really glowing and talking about because I had

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>spent the night with Keith who now and it's so

0:23:57.640 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>funny because watching it, I didn't at all get what

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you guys were talking about about him taking advantage of.

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Her in her moment of need. Now I'm furious.

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm furious now what happened. I'm so angry that he

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:11.880
<v Speaker 1>took advantage of her because he did. It was right

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>after that I'll be brave for you that they fell

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.440
<v Speaker 1>into bed, and then she's all perky and saying, we

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 1>had it's amazing.

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Actually it was amazing. Yeah, And I'm like, well, I'll

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>take care of that. I'm taking you to the shooting range.

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're going to go shoot my SIGs hour.

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<v Speaker 4>I also thought it was sort of funny, like Joe

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 4>was being like, oh, I know how that feels. That's

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 4>happened to me, Like, oh, yeah, it happened to me

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<v Speaker 4>in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>I just, you know, have an evil access in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>She did say that, you're right, I've been mugged. Yeah,

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:44.119
<v Speaker 2>I got this.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, yeah, I have an idea. Come on, I

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:48.679
<v Speaker 4>know you're scared to go out of the house right

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 4>now and you're not going to work, but come on,

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 4>let's go.

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's leave the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And didn't you think it was interesting that Jake

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>was so anti gun. So Jake finds out that Joe

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>has a gun at home and he does this, He

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>just rails on it, talking about his friends who had

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>guns and.

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.120
<v Speaker 2>They ended up shooting each other.

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a nice anti gun message in

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 1>the middle of Melrose Place.

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a very like, very clear conversation between

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 3>the two characters. That whole scene with Jake.

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 4>And Joe is so sweet because their storyline like refers

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 4>to the previous episode where Joe had sort of he

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 4>had said to her, you are silent partner, right, and

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 4>so all throughout this one when they're having this thread

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 4>continue where he's saying, this is my business, you're the

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 4>silent partner.

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Stopped telling me.

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 4>What to do, and by the end he is She

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 4>gives the hey, I'm done with the gun, and he gives, hey,

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.679
<v Speaker 4>I'm giving you the books, and like they like both.

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Share this do the money part yeah for each other.

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 4>And it's such a sweet scene with the with the

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.719
<v Speaker 4>gift that Daphne or not that Daphne that Joe brings

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 4>for Ja very blurry.

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 3>The gift that Joe, You're so confused.

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 2>It's just because we're middle aged brain now.

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 1>But Dap, who is the transper guy we saw at

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>the window. He used to go on those magical motorcycle

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>rides with all of you guys.

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what he was the best I am. Yeah

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 2>he was a few times. Yeah, Yeah. I liked how

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning when Joe brings up, you know, I

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 2>noticed your business and I'm the silent. You just want

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 2>my money and I'm your investor. So she's trying to

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 2>figure out but she has ideas and stuff, and he's

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 2>so testy, what do you mean you don't think I

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 2>can do the money myself. Let's just say it. You

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 2>don't think I can run this business by myself. And

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 2>then by the end they both give in. She's very

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.919
<v Speaker 2>testy when she's defending having a gun and he's like,

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 2>you got to get rid of that. I you know,

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 2>my friend died in my arms with the gun that

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 2>he had, so anyway, it was very I like at

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 2>the end they both compromised. The only way you can

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 2>move to the middle, and they did with that wonderfully

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 2>melrose Place moment of the neon sign that she brings

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 2>to him that says Jake's place, and they do that

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 2>silhouetted kiss in front of it, and it says Jake's place,

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and it's just this beautiful Okay, for now they're coming together.

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 2>It's a good game.

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 1>You finally gissed. You guys did a lot less making

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>out in this story. Yeah, so we haven't talked yet

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>about Karen's and Rondo, which is great for comic relief.

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 4>That whole storyline. When I saw ray dun Chong's name

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 4>in the credit, so I was like, oh, and I

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 4>totally understood when Ronda's character says, wait, you haven't told

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 4>me what your decorator's name was that you want me

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 4>to meet with, and then you're.

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Like, I can tell you.

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 1>And it was such a good balance right to these

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of heavy storylines, especially the poor Alison storyline, So

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>they're so light and funny, and raydon Chong is so

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 1>hilarious and Vanessa does such a great job playing along

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>with it. Meanwhile, we've got the storyline with Keith and

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Allison and Billy where Alison finally asked Keith to move

0:27:55.680 --> 0:28:01.199
<v Speaker 1>in and then Billy decides to move in with Amanda. Yeah,

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and then we have that sad scene at the end.

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 2>That lasted forever and it was so sad.

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Just on Alison being sad, and then she wait a minute, Billy,

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>and then she goes, do you want your coffee maker?

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 2>And we're like, no, Oh. It wasn't just sad because

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 2>of the writing. It was as sad because of the shots,

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 2>because she kept turning around and doing close ups on

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>you and Courtney, you were so real and so just there.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 2>And I just saw she's using, that's really my boyfriend

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>and I'm never going to see him again. You were

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 2>just like and tears were coming in him and then

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 2>they cut to him and little Andrew slash Billy was

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, I don't need the coffee maker. Amanda

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 2>has a big german one gives you everything. Oh.

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>And then he says, right before this last scene, she's like, wait,

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>where are you going? And he goes, it's not as

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>if we thought we were going to spend the rest

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>of our lives together.

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, but we did. We did. It's

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>like and then he also does I think, didn't he say, Corney, Well,

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 2>we probably did the best. We like, No, you haven't

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>even comes the best.

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>You can you more, I haven't even kissed you more

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>busy kissing these other people that we want you to

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>stop kissing right now.

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 3>You guys were both so good in that scene.

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 4>And it traveled from the bedroom out into the living

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 4>room as he goes and he ends up going out

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 4>the door, but like every back and forth shot and

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 4>the music cues underneath, it was just this gentle piano.

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 4>It was like very unique and very like pure lump

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 4>in your throat watching scene.

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and that hugo he goes to the door,

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 2>you guys have even hugged and then they cut to

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 2>you and you're going bye, and he's like.

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>He decides to give me hugs and you're like, I know,

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>he gives me a kiss on the cheek and like

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>it's almost a kiss. I thought at first when he

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>leaned in, I thought he's gonna kiss her me and

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>then this is what life is bloring again, And then

0:29:58.040 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>he didn't. It was a kiss on the cheek and

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a hug, and it's like, oh.

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 2>And all we the audience are going, oh, she's left

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>there with what's his name exactly? Yeah, it was wanting

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 2>to seattle the very end. He's like, come on, at

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 2>least look at the you know, check out the things

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 2>of pamphlets. And please just consider it, and.

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>You thought about it till right now. But all through

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it she's saying, I don't know if I'm brave enough

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to live and work in la anymore. So that's also

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>working with him saying you want to go to Seattle.

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>So there's a very good chance.

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 4>And she's got her gonna move walking out the door.

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 4>She no longer has a roommate, so yeah, I don't

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 4>pay through the end, John, it's a good option to

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 4>come in and be her roommate.

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>This should have been the cliffhanger. And you know what,

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>episode twenty four was probably supposed to be the last episode,

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>but then they kept asking episod ten.

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 2>You're obsessed with how bad the ratings were, and she

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 2>thinks every episode we were off air, so this was

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 2>probably it.

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, but twenty four would have been. We did twenty

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>two then, so twenty four would have been a lot.

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>So my guess is this was where they were. This

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>was probably going to be the cliffhanger, but then they

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>kept adding because the ratings were getting higher and higher.

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Maybe well a lot happened in this one, for sure.

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 4>We've got Bill out into Amanda's apartment, Allison's on the

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 4>verge of considering if she's going to leave for Seattle.

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 4>We didn't see Michael and Jane at all. We saw

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 4>Matt for a beat as he's giving advice to Ronda.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 2>And there and he was also cleaning the pool.

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 3>And Matt was cleaning the boot was mad that mad.

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that was Matt. I think that was

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 4>unnamed pool cleaner guy.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I think pulled around and seen.

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they would like he was being paid for the episodes.

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 4>They might as well have used his face.

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>He was actually cleaning the pool. TV money clean the pool.

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 4>He was just there at work a scene in a

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 4>pool duty for you, Doug. You know I'm not doing

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 4>anything else right now?

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Can I clean the poole?

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 4>You?

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>I can fold your footage.

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm here all day, my trailer.

0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>No, I know we have to end. But one quick question,

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Laura U. Did you and Doug ever have a scene

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>together where you're just ever on the show where you're

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>just talking to each other?

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, we have some sids later.

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh good, I'm exciting.

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know episode I couldn't imagine how Sydney and

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Doug would have a conversation there.

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 3>There are some scenes with Sydney and Matt group scenes.

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 2>We're all in group seas together. Something happened somewhere along

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 2>the line. Totally all right, I gotta go see the baby, all.

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 4>Right, have fun, guys, Thanks for tuning into our episode.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 4>Is still the place to see on a Melrose minute

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<v Speaker 4>and say on the next episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye guys, Bye everyone,