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Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so

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Speaker 3: And Dan and tie Dan Robinstein. We have a playoff field.

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Speaker 3: Our field of twelve is now officially set. We know

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Speaker 3: who won conference championship games on Saturday on Saturday night,

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Speaker 3: now we know who is playing whom for the first

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Speaker 3: ever expanded field of the twelve team college football playoff.

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Speaker 3: My friend, did you get any sleep last night? Are

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Speaker 3: you rearing and ready to go for this one?

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Speaker 1: Here? Today?

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Speaker 2: I did okay about one to seven. Am, okay, I've

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Speaker 2: had worse. That's not bad. I'm ready to go, buddy,

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Speaker 2: I'm really I'm rearing. I am excited. I have a

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Speaker 3: We'd love to have you with us all throughout this

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Speaker 3: playoff journey, this postseason journey. More to come on our

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Speaker 3: bull Bingo game that I discussed a little bit on

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Speaker 3: our live stream and podcast recording that we did last night.

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Speaker 3: But without further ado, mister Rubinstein, we have.

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Speaker 2: Gig News about an hour and a half after Brett

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Speaker 2: McMurphy did Yes, we.

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Speaker 3: Gotta have McMurphy on this show at some point sooner.

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Speaker 3: Find out how we scooped the playoff committee and found

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Speaker 3: out who was getting in before we found out before

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Speaker 3: they announced, yes officially, who was getting in. We have

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Speaker 3: our up to date college football playoff rankings and bracket,

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Speaker 3: Dan Rubinstein. For those watching on YouTube, it is up

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Speaker 3: on the screen. For those listening and the comfort of

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Speaker 3: and laundry, here is the way this thing shakes out.

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Speaker 3: No great surprized that Oregon's going to be the number

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Speaker 3: one overall seed, Georgia the number two overall seed. We've

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Speaker 3: got Boise State as your number three. We've got Arizona

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Speaker 3: the season. Those are going to be the teams getting

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Speaker 3: your first round byes. Beyond that, we've got Texas your

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Speaker 3: We've got Notre Dame as your seven. We've got Ohio

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Speaker 3: with regards to the first round, matchup Number five Texas

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Speaker 1: Fifty six yardfield goal.

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Speaker 2: That'll be Saturday, December twenty first for Eastern on TNT.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Saturday at noon. It is going to be number

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Speaker 3: six Penn State hosting number eleven SMU. Friday night eight

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Speaker 3: number ten Indiana. The so called state championship of the

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Speaker 3: The winner of that Notre Dame Indiana game plays Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I think they got it right. I understand it all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a good spread. Obviously, Notre Dame being as

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Speaker 2: I think anybody planting an SEC flag here is pretty misguided.

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Speaker 2: But no, I think everything you said is on point.

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Speaker 3: If you are any team in this tournament, any team

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Speaker 1: Looks the easiest to you?

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Speaker 3: Which team in this tournament if you're picking one of them,

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Speaker 2: Be in this moment? I would say Georgia's probably pretty advantaged. Georgia.

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Speaker 3: It is a big buffet of madness, Dan, why don't

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Speaker 3: Over there, Dan Rubenstein for myself, Ty Hildebrandt. As always

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