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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. A buddy, happy yeady abby. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday Fellas Jason fitz Kevin figures, I'm Anthony Gargano

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Speaker 2: as we hang out, get ready for a little NBA

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Speaker 2: finals and get ready for a little summer. The first

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Speaker 2: day of June is upon us. You know what that means.

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Speaker 2: I look at it like this and fits You'll love it.

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Speaker 2: It's one one month really of no football because by

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Speaker 2: the end of July you got camp starting. So really

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Speaker 2: all you have to do is get through this month

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Speaker 2: and by the end of next month we got football.

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Speaker 3: Fits.

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Speaker 4: E look at that. Look is that it's a vacation month.

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Speaker 4: My birthday's Monday, so like I like, I'm excited. I'm

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Speaker 4: excited right like, so you know, the way I look

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Speaker 4: at it is like June is the relaxation.

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Speaker 2: You're right, June July relax until it gets right at

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Speaker 2: the end of it and it all begins.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing for your birthday? Anything special?

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Speaker 5: Don't doing anything special? Right like?

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Speaker 4: You know, might might hit the casino down the road

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Speaker 4: for a little bit, might might bet a little money.

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Speaker 4: You know, lose a little money, give give, help them

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Speaker 4: build more casinos down the road.

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Speaker 5: You know that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I like, I don't really make

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Speaker 4: birthday plans. It was never a big deal for me.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm just gonna hang back and relax.

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Speaker 4: I'm just but I sure you're excitement because I was

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Speaker 4: talking to a buddy yesterday, right, and he works for

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Speaker 4: a particular NFL team, and we were just shooting the shot,

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Speaker 4: catching up and he was like, man, telling you end

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Speaker 4: of July that the training came, starts, it's right around

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Speaker 4: the corner, and it just didn't resonate until then. How

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Speaker 4: close that is? I mean, we are under one hundred

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Speaker 4: days till the NFL season.

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Speaker 5: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I usually still love the countdown one hundred days of football,

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Speaker 2: and I guess that hit this past week, the one

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Speaker 2: hundred days. So we're inside one hundred days and that's

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Speaker 2: that's the great countdown.

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Speaker 3: You're right, this is the Uh, this is the time.

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Speaker 2: A lot of teams think, you know, all of the

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Speaker 2: coaches go on vacation.

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Speaker 3: There's one usually one more camp.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The college guys, they all disappear, they're good. They're good

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Speaker 2: for like a whole, like five weeks type of thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, Uh, this is this is like.

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Speaker 4: The perfect Okay, so I always make this analogy, but

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Speaker 4: but your relationship with your favorite football team is like

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Speaker 4: a relationship with the girl you're dating. Right, and back

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Speaker 4: at the end of the season, you had the really

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Speaker 4: perfect view of it. You saw it for what it

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Speaker 4: really was. You understood all of the flaws and the relationship.

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Speaker 4: You understood why you weren't happy with the relationship. You

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Speaker 4: understand why the relationship is not gonna work your out right,

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Speaker 4: So you leave your break up. But then it's like

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Speaker 4: this dysfunctionally she can't walk away from because all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, a few weeks go by and you hit

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Speaker 4: suddenly the combine and you're like, man, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I kind of miss her, you know, like the things

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Speaker 4: weren't that bad. And then you hit the draft and

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Speaker 4: you're like, oh, but we did have some fun times,

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Speaker 4: right cre agency, and you're like, man, things were things

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Speaker 4: weren't that bad, Like I remember the way she made

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Speaker 4: me laugh at this. By the time you get to June,

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Speaker 4: you are full back in the You've forgotten all of

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Speaker 4: the bad you only remember the good and you're ready

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Speaker 4: to get back together.

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Speaker 5: We hit you lie, You're back in love.

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Speaker 4: It's all gonna and then by the time you hit September,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be this is the most perfect.

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Speaker 5: This is the one I have found my soulmate.

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Speaker 4: And by week three you realize that you're back in

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Speaker 4: a destructive relationship that's only gonna break your heart.

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Speaker 5: That's the way it goes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's great. It's a great analogy.

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Speaker 2: And imagine like those teams that have had dramatic change quarterback,

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Speaker 2: like you draft of a young quarterback where uh you

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Speaker 2: get you know, Jim Harball as your coach. You're the Chargers, right,

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Speaker 2: like I got Caleb Williams, Right, you're the Commanders. You

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Speaker 2: go all these years just slop right, like just just

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Speaker 2: man football, bad ownership, right, And I finally got some

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Speaker 2: hope on the rise and here comes young Jayane Daniels

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Speaker 2: from LASTU And the next thing you know, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm growing all right, I feel good I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking five hope, Like hope is the greatest thing

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Speaker 2: in the world, and especially with a new coach or

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Speaker 2: a new quarterback, because it's like you're going through a

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Speaker 2: new cycle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're absolutely.

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Speaker 4: This is the way I always think of how you

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Speaker 4: can tell how much changes happened with your team? Do

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Speaker 4: you gotta buy the new Madden? Like that's the easy

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Speaker 4: answer to this, Like we all know if you grew

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Speaker 4: up a Madden player, you know that if you've got

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Speaker 4: a new coach or a new quarterback, you're buying new Madden.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to see the old guy they got

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Speaker 5: fired on the sideline in the graphics.

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Speaker 4: And if you got the new quarterback, you want that

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Speaker 4: hope that comes with having that new quarterback. Even on Yeah,

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Speaker 4: if you got to buy the new mat, and then

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Speaker 4: things are good. So now look up and down the

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Speaker 4: list and remind ourselves, by the time free agency and

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Speaker 4: the draft was done, how many teams, how many.

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Speaker 5: Fans are out there saying, man, I got to buy

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Speaker 5: the new Mat.

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Speaker 4: And that's one of the beautiful things about the NFL

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Speaker 4: is that there's so much changeover that is significant every

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Speaker 4: year that you end up with a dozen teams or

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Speaker 4: so that feel like, man, this is the year we're

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Speaker 4: about to take a meteoric leap into the standings. And

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Speaker 4: you know that's the drug that continues to get us

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Speaker 4: coming back.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I had, I had a weird

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Speaker 2: week and and I'm gonna I'll relay it back.

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Speaker 3: First, Good good morning, Figgy, How worry brother?

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Speaker 6: Doing well?

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Speaker 5: Boys?

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Speaker 6: How are we?

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Speaker 3: That's the baby?

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Speaker 7: Mayby's great baby. He's doing excellent. Me not sleeping so much,

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Speaker 7: but it's cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know we're fifty about birthday, right, fifty's birthdays Monday?

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Speaker 2: You know that you your birthday out ceases to exist. Oh,

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Speaker 2: of course, you know what you should. I've never been

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Speaker 2: one to celebrate my my birthday anyway. Like it's almost

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Speaker 2: like what Fitz.

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Speaker 7: Was mentioned, like that I don't really do a whole

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Speaker 3: It's girl think girls love their birthday.

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Speaker 7: Well yeah, well see I have a friend, a female friend,

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Speaker 7: who has a birthday season and this is like yeah,

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Speaker 7: and this is a violation man.

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Speaker 6: Woman.

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Speaker 7: Otherwise, if your birthday, I'm just gonna pick an arbitrary date.

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Speaker 7: If your birthday is June first.

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Speaker 6: Today.

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Speaker 7: You can't sit here and tell me my birthday. Season

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Speaker 7: began on May twenty at the ends on August second.

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Speaker 7: Your birthday is June first. If you're getting a gift

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Speaker 7: or some sort of text or congratulations for me, it

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Speaker 7: is going to be on June first, and on June

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Speaker 7: first only, and maybe June second if it's belated.

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Speaker 6: But this season stuff you missed me with that is

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: And listen if you if your birthday folds on a

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Speaker 2: you know, Friday or Saturday, and you want to call

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Speaker 2: I'm down. But other than that, no season. Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: There's people that do the week I've heard that. I'ven't

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Speaker 6: I've heard half birthdays. That's a thing too.

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Speaker 3: For some people.

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Speaker 2: It's not half stop there the half birthday. That's that's

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Speaker 2: a violation too. We didn't stop it in the half birthday.

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Speaker 2: What's half birthday? Give me a break.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think this entire like the one thing that

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Speaker 4: screams is just high maintenance.

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Speaker 5: Like a girl says, I've got a birthday season.

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Speaker 4: You just like sit back and you understand if you're

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Speaker 4: gonna keep dating that girl, You're like, you know what,

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Speaker 4: I understand. I've now figured out the most important thing,

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Speaker 4: which is you are wired to be high maintenance. Not

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Speaker 4: better be ready to accept nothing wrong with that, Like,

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Speaker 4: you know, I maintenance people can be great you just

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Speaker 4: like I got. I got a buddy in Nashville. His

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Speaker 4: name is Mikey, and Mikey one day was just he

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Speaker 5: And I loved it.

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Speaker 4: Like I just looked at it and said, I appreciate

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Speaker 4: I'm a complainer.

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Speaker 5: I want like, if.

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Speaker 4: Your high maintenance, just own it, right, but you will

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Speaker 4: own it from every side.

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Speaker 5: Like high maintenance is fine.

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Speaker 4: But if you if you're the type of person that

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Speaker 4: that also takes two hours to get ready to the

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Speaker 5: Like I'm just saying, like that's just the way it works.

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Speaker 2: Real talk, Oh man, the two hours get ready for

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Speaker 2: the supermarket. Oh you know, God for a big strong

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Speaker 2: on a pair of sweats.

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Speaker 3: It's cold to day, you Lulu, let me like.

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's a bad hair day. Put on a cap

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Speaker 6: and let's roll.

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Speaker 2: Like what I mean, here's the thing about they don't

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Speaker 2: understand how guys look at it, Like we love a

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Speaker 2: girl in a baseball cap?

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Speaker 6: Oh kidding me? Now you love a girl in a cap?

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Speaker 6: Of course?

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Speaker 3: Like casual? Are you kidding me? You love that?

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Speaker 5: Cool?

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Speaker 4: Something like But that's like the line in the John

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Speaker 4: Cougar Mell cap song, like the girls walk like the

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Speaker 4: girls dress for each other, like they don't dress for guys.

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Speaker 4: Like girls when they're going out there dressing for each other,

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Speaker 4: the guys I know, would not care if the girl

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Speaker 4: in their life, the woman in their life was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna wear makeup ever again and be like Okay,

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Speaker 4: I don't really care.

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Speaker 5: That's on you, Like you do what you want to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you're you're supposed spot on.

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Speaker 6: How many guys are looking like damn, look at that eyeliner.

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Speaker 7: I don't think anybody and guys ever said that before,

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Speaker 7: and at least very few you know that.

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Speaker 4: Standing love is getting her haircut, because then you're like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting, it really is. All Right, we're

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Speaker 2: It's more styles make fights than it is. I think

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00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: Boston's choke. I like this Boston team, so I'm not

443
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 2: coming from there. I like, I mean, how Day White, right,

444
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 2: you know, Brown, Tatum, obviously, Horford. I mean, you know

445
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 2: they fit now for Zig, it's being back is big,

446
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 2: so that'll be a big deal. I just think the

447
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: way Dallas's biggs are going to be a problem for Boston.

448
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 4: Well, Dallas's Biggs did a great job, especially in the

449
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 4: last series, protecting the rent, right, we all saw that

450
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 4: that was incredible, But Boston shoots way better from outside, right,

451
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 4: So I do think the Boston is going to force

452
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 4: to do more. They're gonna have to cover more ground.

453
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 4: I think Boston wins this series. And I think, honestly,

454
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 4: this is, though, for all of that, a really good

455
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 4: spot for the league to be and like they got

456
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 4: a final here with two teams that are playing lights

457
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 4: out that also has a ton of established superstars, and

458
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: like this just feels like the sort of final that

459
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 4: is going to give everybody what they want out of

460
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 4: these things.

461
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 5: As much as we wanted Minnesota to be.

462
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Speaker 4: There because it was a great story for the pluckiness

463
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 4: of that roster, having Luca and Kyrie play the way

464
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 4: they are playing right now that backcourt, and knowing that

465
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 4: we're about to get a series of Luca and Kyrie

466
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 4: versus essentially Tatum and Brown, even though they're not really

467
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 4: going to regarding each other necessarily, Like I just the

468
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 4: storylines are abound for this. So yeah, I do think

469
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 4: that the ability for the MAVs to protect the rim

470
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: turned out to be the difference in Minnesota series. I

471
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 4: didn't think it would work out that way. I thought

472
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Speaker 4: Minnesota's big would be able to get a lot more

473
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 4: done and they couldn't. So I have nothing but respect

474
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 4: for Dallas's ability to do that. And we all know

475
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: the clutch shooting for Dallas is great. I just, man,

476
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 4: if Boston is even remotely hot shooting from outside, I

477
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: think they could just run away with this thing. I

478
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 4: think Boston wins in six, but I think they win

479
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 4: some games convincingly along the way.

480
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: That's interesting, fake, what do you say.

481
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the big thing with Boston.

482
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 7: It's always an if because yes, they can go nuclear

483
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 7: from the outside, but they can go ice cold as well.

484
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 7: And one thing that helped Dallas and you mentioned it

485
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 7: fits was the fact that they won the size battle

486
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 7: against Minnesota last series, and they're gonna win that overwhelmingly.

487
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 7: I think even if Porzeningas is back, because if he's

488
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 7: back in the lineup, which would be expect him to be,

489
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 7: I mean, he hasn't played playoff basketball in a while.

490
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 7: I mean this, you just you're basically throwing the guy.

491
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: Actually, especially grind it out.

492
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, right into the NBA Finals.

493
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: Grind out team.

494
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

495
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 7: I mean the way that that that front court plays

496
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 7: between Lively, you know, and and Gaffer when he's in there.

497
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 6: I mean that that's a real size.

498
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 7: So if Boston is not hitting from the outside, I

499
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 7: think Dallas dominates him on the glass.

500
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 6: And Dallas has been one of the best.

501
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 7: I think they've been the best team in the NBA

502
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 7: since I want to say it was minute early April

503
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 7: or something like that. And Boston's been, you know, notoriously

504
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 7: one of the best defensive teams in the league, not

505
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 7: only this year but the last couple of years. But yeah,

506
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 7: from a styles makes fight standpoint, I get it. I

507
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 7: understand what you mean, Anthony, because even look at how

508
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 7: Dallas improved on the perimeter.

509
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 5: PJ.

510
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 6: Washington and Derrek Jones have been huge for them.

511
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: See it's funny. I think PJ. Washington is the X

512
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 2: factor in the series, right think. I think he'll he's

513
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: going to stretch it and if he can knock down

514
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 2: those quarter threes like he didn't really he didn't play

515
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: that well. It gets minisoda, but I didn't really think

516
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: the matchup was there. It's going to be there against

517
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 2: Boston and he's gotta he's gotta knock down the shuts

518
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: he had. If you remember in the quarterfinals, he I

519
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: mean he was averaging thirty couple games like.

520
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 7: Joyd okay, see yeah, yeah.

521
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 6: So that's the big one for me. It's basically it's PJ.

522
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 7: Washington and Derek White agree who's winning that not I

523
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 7: had to head match up, but who's making the bigger impact.

524
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 7: And I think that's really gonna be the key in

525
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 7: the series for this on this series and.

526
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: The two of them, and I mean, uh, Luca and Kyrie, Yeah,

527
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: they have to play the same level of defense that

528
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: they they were.

529
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 6: They they played.

530
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: Terrific ball man. First of all, I.

531
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: Want to lord Kyrie because I've always said, like, I mean,

532
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: he's such a talented talent to play, but like you know,

533
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: i mean he's he's goofy, right, you never know what

534
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: he shows up and the whole thing.

535
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 6: He has played marvelous basketball.

536
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: He's said, like the fact when he wants to play,

537
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 2: I mean, there's very very, very few guys are better.

538
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: I mean, she's gone.

539
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 5: It's been also to some level.

540
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 4: He's played so well it's actually changed the tone of

541
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 4: the conversation around Kyrie, which I thought was impossible. I

542
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 4: thought everybody had just made up their mind, you know,

543
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 4: And it's like, all of a sudden, there's been this shift.

544
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 4: And I've talked to a couple of guys on the

545
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 4: football side that I know pretty well. I think it's

546
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 4: rare to see somebody later at this spot that's already

547
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 4: so established as a personality sort of put that personality

548
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 4: aside and then just sort of quietly, just melt, just

549
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 4: do their job.

550
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like it's just such a shift.

551
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: In the way he's approaching, you know, the microphone, which

552
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: has been such a distraction for so long.

553
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 5: It's a beautiful thing.

554
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 4: Like I really do have to tip my cap to it,

555
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 4: because what you ask for players to step up in

556
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 4: the biggest moments, he's done it, and he's done it

557
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 4: at such a level that it has truly made us

558
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 4: stop having the same conversations we've been having about Kyrie

559
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: for the last five years.

560
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: Well they were warranted, right, you know, mixing gage because

561
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 2: of birthday parties and you know at the goofy and

562
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: you know, remember the whole Jason Kid thing or wait,

563
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: was not Jason Kid what was the whole uh what

564
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: was this story?

565
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 5: Who was uh?

566
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: Who is the coach in Brooklyn?

567
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 6: When it was.

568
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: Durant and Harden Steve Nash Nash right, it was a

569
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: whole mass thing, like.

570
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: You know, they didn't need a coach.

571
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they're going to work together, like you know,

572
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: it was it was like all these you know, kind

573
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: of business buzzwords.

574
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 6: And and then and then he became.

575
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: Completely unreliable and then you realize like, oh my god,

576
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: this dude really is talented, right, Like when he plays

577
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: to that at this level, you just marvel.

578
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 7: Well, I mean he realized it. I mean you realized

579
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 7: that back in twenty sixteen. And as phenomenal as Lebron

580
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 7: James was in the finals, I mean, Kyrie R they're

581
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 7: with him. I mean one, he had the one with

582
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 7: the big shot in Game seven, Like he knew how

583
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 7: talented of a player he was. And I would even

584
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 7: say when he applied himself defensively, he was a phenomenal

585
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 7: perimeter defensive player.

586
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 5: He just was.

587
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 7: He just never tried, he never never, never cared to

588
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 7: do it. But when he wants to and he's motivated

589
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 7: to do it. And I'll give Jason Kate credit for

590
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 7: it as well, you know, for forgetting something out of

591
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 7: he and Luka Nachik, who both guys have generally been turnstiles. Now,

592
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 7: I don't know if you want to credit it to

593
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 7: the moves they made at the deadline, where you brought

594
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 7: in a bunch of guys that have that grit and

595
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 7: it's one of those where you see somebody else putting

596
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 7: an effort next to you, you don't want to look bad,

597
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 7: even if you are a superstar.

598
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 6: Maybe that's part of it.

599
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 7: But I will give kudos to Jason Kidd and the

600
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 7: MAVs in that locker room getting those guys to turn

601
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 7: it around, realizing that yeah, you can score all the

602
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 7: points in the world, but if you can't stop anybody,

603
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 7: we're not going to win. And for both Luca and

604
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 7: Kyrie to turn it around the way that they have

605
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 7: is nothing short of remarkable considering how bad they've been

606
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 7: throughout their careers.

607
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 4: Well you I mean you mentioned, you know, the credit

608
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 4: to the coach and the credit to Kidd. I'll go

609
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: back to something that you started. Colin Coward said on

610
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 4: one of his shows that he was talking about the

611
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 4: fact that the most important thing that an NBA coach

612
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: really has to do is manage personalities and hasn't then

613
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: be I mean, we can look back and say, you know,

614
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: Phil Jackson, part of it was the Triangle offense. Part

615
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: of it was just finding a way to get that

616
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: many big egos to be willing to play together. I

617
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: think that's an understated part Steve Kerr finding a way

618
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: to do that year in and year out.

619
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 5: The stated parts a great kitch. That's what Kid is

620
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 5: doing right now.

621
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: The fact that somebody has finally gotten through to Jason

622
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: Kidd or to h to Kyrie, I should say in

623
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: a way that it's changing some of those things. That's

624
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 4: that speaks to a coach having the pulse of the

625
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: individuals in his life room.

626
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 7: I also think Kyrie is not He's obviously a sharp guy.

627
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 7: His you know, idiosyncrasies notwithstanding, I think at a certain

628
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 7: point he knows that the that you know, he's he's

629
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 7: not necessarily in the twilight of his career, but he's

630
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 7: getting up there now and legacy matters and perception matters,

631
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 7: and he just looks back at his career says, why

632
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 7: don't we want to be known as the guy that

633
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 7: all the flat Earth stuff, all the controversies, missing games

634
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 7: for birthday parties. Look at how things started in Cleveland

635
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 7: and how great of a run they had and winning it,

636
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 7: winning a championship, and then forcing himself to Boston, forcing

637
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 7: himself out of Boston and.

638
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 6: Then to Brooklyn and then out of Brooklyn.

639
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 7: Then I feel like I wonder if Kyrie Irving kind

640
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 7: of took a step back, or maybe he had a

641
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 7: mentor or someone that he had had one of those

642
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 7: come to Jesus moments where he's like, look, man, how

643
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 7: do you want to be perceived? This is how you

644
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 7: wanted your career to go when you were drafted number

645
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 7: one overall, all those years ago, I think it was

646
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 7: twenty eleven or twenty twelve. Did you think this is

647
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 7: where you'd be in twenty twenty two, a pending free

648
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 7: agent where a lot of teams don't even want you

649
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 7: despite the fact how talented you are, because you're, for

650
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 7: lack of a better term, a head case.

651
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, because you can't caddle on them. Yeah.

652
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: I remember talking about this with the with the uh,

653
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: you know, for the sixers, right, like you go over

654
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: and it's like, I don't touch I wouldn't touch Kyrie,

655
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah with a fifty foot pole because he's got fleas,

656
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: and you're like, there's no way in the world, like

657
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: you just can't trust it, can't cattle the guy like that.

658
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: And now he's thirty two years old, a to your point,

659
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: like he's really in the in the in the he's

660
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: really the pride like.

661
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Speaker 6: His prime and say yeah.

662
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and you go with all that ability. I

663
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Speaker 2: think you're right. I think I think you woke up

664
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Speaker 2: and said, you know what what am I doing here?

665
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Speaker 5: Uh?

666
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

667
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: And he's just he's playing smart, he's playing hard, you know,

668
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: and he's playing Here's why I give him a ton

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Speaker 2: of credit. He's allowed reallows Luca to beat a man,

670
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: and he just plays awful.

671
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Speaker 4: I mean, there is some level of when you think

672
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: about Kyrie's struggles at every step of the way. Hasn't

673
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 4: part of it been just accepting what his role is

674
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: gonna be, right, Like just figuring out who Kyrie is

675
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: gonna be in each of these offenses. Who's he gonna be?

676
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: Is he the number one? Is he the number two?

677
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: Is he the number three?

678
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Speaker 6: Like?

679
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: Who is he? And and through.

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Speaker 4: All of this also you got to look at it

681
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Speaker 4: and say, part of the reason that we didn't necessarily

682
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 4: as a general community, think that the two guys were

683
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: gonna work together was because what indication do we have

684
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 4: at that point that Kyrie had worked with anybody. So

685
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 4: now you've got somebody in Luca that's been you know,

686
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 4: taking down grown ass men since it feels like he

687
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: was twelve years old playing pro basketball, right Like, that's

688
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 4: gonna have to figure out how to share a little

689
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: bit here, while at the same time having somebody that

690
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: doesn't like to s and you're putting them both.

691
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 5: In the same sandbox.

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Speaker 4: The fact that they've been able to find that, the

693
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: fact that that Kyrie has been able to defer when

694
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: he needs to, the fact that there's no doubt and

695
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 4: no pressure at the end of there is no weird

696
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: end of the game, who's getting a shot moment? Like

697
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: all of the things that we usually associate with trying

698
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: to get egos to work together in basketball has not

699
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 4: really been a part of this MAVs story, especially through

700
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 4: the playoff run, And it's a big part of you know,

701
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: it sticks to me that Anthony Edwards said after the

702
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Speaker 4: series that Minnesota never jeled for a single game in

703
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 4: that series.

704
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Speaker 5: Well, you know who did the MAVs. I mean time

705
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Speaker 5: in and time out.

706
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 4: They won every one of those close games when it

707
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: came down to the wire because they were just on

708
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 4: the same page on what to do, when to.

709
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Speaker 5: Do, and how to put a clutch, which has been

710
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 5: part of their identity all year. Their clutch scoring has

711
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 5: been through the roof because of that.

712
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Speaker 7: By the way, talking about Minnesota inexperience, whatever you want

713
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 7: to call it, you can't get. You can't be down

714
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Speaker 7: thirty eight points at home in a closeout game in

715
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Speaker 7: the playoffs.

716
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Speaker 6: That can't happen.

717
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Speaker 2: I don't get, I got, I got, Well, I got

718
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Speaker 2: one word for you. And to me, it's what I

719
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Speaker 2: would It's what I would move Cat.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's something missing there.

721
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Speaker 2: The loser, but well no, you know, I mean just

722
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: to me, he just didn't show up, man even show

723
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Speaker 2: up in a lot of those games.

724
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Speaker 3: I'd move on from him.

725
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the defense.

726
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: We're in a spot now too where Anthony Edwards has

727
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: become such a superstar overnight that now it's like we's

728
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: got to have better number two. Like, so whatever grace

729
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: was ever going to be given to Cat to see

730
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Speaker 4: if he could grow into something with him that grace

731
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Speaker 4: is now gone because the applications have changed totally.

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Speaker 2: Their best game is when against Dallas is when cat

733
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Speaker 2: was didn't play the whole.

734
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Speaker 6: Fourth when benched him for the Yeah, the entire quarter.

735
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Speaker 2: Yeah he gotta go. All right, we'll get into We're

736
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Speaker 2: gonna take a quick time out. Fellas hanging right here

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Fella's from the tai Iraq dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: The one cool thing about the NBA. We're in an

739
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: NBA discussion right now. I think the one cool thingout

740
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Speaker 2: the NBA right now is I don't think there's one

741
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 2: formula to build the championship team used to be like, oh,

742
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: we got to follow the blueprint of the big three.

743
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 2: Are we need the blueprint of this.

744
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 5: And you know big.

745
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Speaker 6: Two or now we need a big three? I really

746
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Speaker 6: don't think there.

747
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Speaker 2: I think Dallas is expelling the notion because of you know,

748
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: it's two, it's the two guards, and then you got

749
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: you know a lot of great role players that just

750
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 2: kind of come in and are interchangeable.

751
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Speaker 3: I think, you know a lot of these teams.

752
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Speaker 2: So I look at Minnesota, I think there's a there's

753
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: a way to build it and you and you have yeah,

754
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: I mean right there.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting to me too because both of

756
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: these teams, You're right, Dallas has a ton of role

757
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 4: players and Boston, I know they have two.

758
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: Of the highest paid players in the league at this or.

759
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 4: Will, but at this point Boston also has a ton

760
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 4: of depth. Like for all the conversation about you know,

761
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: the Big Three in the way teams were built and

762
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: look over like every time the Lakers this year are

763
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 4: gonna figure out what to do this summer. What's gonna

764
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna sign some big name and bring

765
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 4: them in. Is what everybody wants to do with that

766
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 4: that that's not working like that? What you're a thousand

767
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: percent right that we're seeing a change in the way

768
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: these things are built and what's working in the NBA,

769
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: and everybody should sort of take note. There's there is

770
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 4: some relevance here too, you know, building it differently and

771
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 4: you know, you get your one superstar obviously with Luca

772
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 4: with the with.

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Speaker 5: The maps that's homegrown.

774
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Speaker 4: But the rest of this as a matter of the

775
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: right signings and the right draftings and the right depth

776
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 4: and the right trade.

777
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 5: Movement, like this was not sexy.

778
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 4: Nobody thought the MAVs would be here mid season because

779
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 4: they were not sexy to that point.

780
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 5: But it's actually that they're in the final.

781
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go back to it. I think I brought

782
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: up last week, but I remember Legs talk. We were

783
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: talking about the he was on the air for NBA

784
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: Trade Deadline and it shows about the end they did

785
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: the trade special and he's like, Hey, we're not going

786
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: to talk about the you know, the Gafford, the PJ

787
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: Washington going to Dallas, and they're like no, He's like, dude,

788
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: He's like, that was a big to me.

789
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: It was one of the biggest pieces.

790
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: And he was right, you know, like when they go

791
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: get PJ Washington, that sh that was the perfect fit

792
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: role player to fit for that team. It's amazing how

793
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: that worked in the same vey how good Barrett go

794
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: Bear works in Minnesota. Those two like the Gafford, PJ

795
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: Washington really and then Lively coming to his own that

796
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: was a great pick. But having those two as role

797
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: players just makes a complete.

798
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 4: Difference, which is just a different sort of focus. And look,

799
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 4: Legs isn't wrong. Everybody knows that. You know, we want

800
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: to spend all the time talking about where the big

801
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 4: name's going, but it just is so much about trying

802
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 4: to get the right pieces at the right time in

803
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: the right places right And I think that's why, to

804
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: the point we made earlier, if you're in Minnesota and

805
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 4: you're right there, you're you're not necessarily looking at at

806
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 4: saying okay, what big name, huge superstar. Are you going

807
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: to look at this and say, okay, what's the best

808
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 4: thing to complement Anthony Edwards? You also got to strike

809
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 4: byle the Irons hot though, because I do want to

810
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: just remind everybody that when.

811
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 5: The Bucks were on their incredible run.

812
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 4: With the Honest to get the championship the first time,

813
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: the presumption was they would be back over and over

814
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 4: and over again.

815
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 5: When we saw how.

816
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 4: That's going, right like now, true, holiday is a huge

817
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: part of you know, this finals matchup. So it's just

818
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 4: amazing how some names we just sort of gloss over

819
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: and make a difference and you really, just like every

820
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: other sport, are you hot at the right time in

821
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: It's just such a huge part of this.

823
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 3: I know, I know now that that's it.

824
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: That really is a you know that getting hot thing

825
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: is is true, but you know, it's funny about the

826
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: star and the sexy name. So I've been imploring Darryl Moury.

827
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Speaker 2: In fact, I texted him this. I was like, dude,

828
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: start with Paul George. He's not going to work, go

829
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: trade for Lori Marketing. I'd rather have Lori Marketing and

830
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: trade away four or five number one picks to go

831
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Speaker 2: all in and then then signed Paul George for nothing.

832
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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't blame you on that.

833
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: Like, the hard part about this is that we're just

834
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: why are we obsessed with Paul George. Other than the

835
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 4: fact that it's the name, everybody just automatically thinking.

836
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Speaker 2: He's not going to be there for you. He's not

837
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: showing up for you. There's no way.

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00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't understand what the sales pitch is at

839
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: this point. When frankly, we were all sitting there at

840
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: the time when Kawhi and Paul George were coming together

841
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 4: for the Clippers, it was like, well, look at what

842
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: this is going to lead to, And you're right, it

843
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: doesn't lead to anything if you aren't healthy, and even

844
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: when you are healthy, then it's like, well, they haven't

845
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: played so much that they need that time to knock

846
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: the russ off, Like he's just never playoff.

847
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they just never got right.

848
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I think the Paul George thing is

849
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: that's one of so many times where it's like the

850
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 4: name recognition is better than the actual play that you

851
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: get for it, And that doesn't make any sense for

852
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: me at this stage.

853
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 7: Big Well, someone that's seen Paul George up close in

854
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 7: person in the last couple of years, he certainly has declined.

855
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 6: He's had some injury issues.

856
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 7: He's still a good player, and he's an excellent outside shooter,

857
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 7: but the burst that he had, the phenomenal athlete that

858
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 7: can get around players and make it to the basket,

859
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 7: that part of his game is sorely lacking. So he's

860
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 7: still a good player. I don't know if I'm willing

861
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 7: in the situation the Sixers are in to mortgage as

862
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 7: far as trade assets or a ginormous max contract to

863
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 7: sign him to bring him in, knowing his injury history

864
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 7: and knowing he's just not the same player that he

865
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 7: was even three years ago. He's not a bad player,

866
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 7: but I just don't know if he's a guy that

867
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 7: he's gonna put them over the top right now.

868
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 2: And you know, and they're gonna go after Paul George,

869
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: and they're gonna go after Jimmy Butler, and I go,

870
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: you pig down this road with these guys. Jimmy Butler

871
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: is gonna do the same thing. He's not gonna be

872
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: available at this stage of his career.

873
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 6: Why in the world would you go with Jimmy Butler.

874
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 7: Seriously, you're just hoping, you're hoping that he's healthy for

875
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 7: the right time of year.

876
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 6: But I don't know if I'm willing to gamble with that. No, No,

877
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Speaker 6: I mean.

878
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 7: Exactly, because you know what he can do when he's

879
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 7: healthy in the playoffs, but it's not worth the risk

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Speaker 3: A couple of things.

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Speaker 2: One just to put the neat bow on the NBA,

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Speaker 2: because I think it's been just a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Dallas Boston is I think a great series like it

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Speaker 2: should this one everybody should watch. You guys are read

901
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: that this is this is one where it's a great matchup.

902
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Speaker 3: Like you know, I don't know you didn't make a pick. Fig.

903
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: I know fits he likes Boston. I like Dallas. Uh,

904
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: you know you're kind of like I think you're who

905
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: do you like?

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Speaker 3: Fig?

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Speaker 7: It's close enough that you know you asked me today.

908
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 7: I could be one thing that actually tomorrow will be another.

909
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 7: But I'm leaning towards Dallas. Yeah, to your point. From

910
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 7: a matchup standpoint, I think they have the upper hand.

911
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 7: But I know when Boston to fits his point, when

912
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 7: they can get on a heater and when they're playing

913
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 7: well and executing well, Uh, they're pretty difficult to beat

914
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 7: for anybody on any given night. So I certainly can

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Speaker 7: see and this is independent of whether if Porzingis is

916
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Speaker 7: there and gives them anything. I think that's actually a bonus.

917
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Speaker 7: I think I'm looking at Boston with Porzingi's not in

918
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 7: the mix. I know we'll be there, but what kind

919
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 7: of player he'll be, what kind of impact will make,

920
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 7: I don't know. But considering they've made this majority of

921
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 7: this run without him being there, I'm just gonna assume

922
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 7: he's not going to be a factor. And even with that,

923
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Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a really close series.

924
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 7: So you ask me today, I say Dallas in seven years,

925
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Speaker 7: and yes, that means Boston will lose another Game seven

926
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Speaker 7: at home in the postseason.

927
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Speaker 4: But we need to keep track of this because at

928
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 4: the end of it all, like if I'm the loan

929
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Speaker 4: if I'm the loan fella that's on the Celtics, I

930
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 4: deserve some sort of a prize.

931
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Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. I'm just saying, like you.

932
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Speaker 6: A yeah, pride for that everybody favor.

933
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Speaker 4: It feels like everybody else is all over this, the

934
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Speaker 4: Dallas thing.

935
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Speaker 7: I'm just saying, well, you know, if it's a full disclosure,

936
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Speaker 7: you know, if it's if it's this close, I'm going

937
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 7: to lean towards them. Picking against the Celtics because I

938
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 7: just can't. I can't support them winning. So I'll be

939
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Speaker 7: honest about it.

940
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Speaker 4: I respect that admission like that is you know what,

941
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 4: That's what makes the Fellas the best show you can

942
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: have on the weekend is because.

943
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Speaker 5: We're honest about our biases.

944
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 4: Yes, bias, biases, bias were honest morality of biases or

945
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 4: is it even yeah?

946
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Speaker 7: Whatever, we know what you mean. It all works. If

947
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 7: I clearly thought Boston was better, I picked them. But

948
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 7: if I as close as I see it, I'll just say,

949
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 7: you know what, I think Dallas is gonna win because

950
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Speaker 7: I'd rather Dallas win.

951
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Speaker 6: There, how's that for your analysis?

952
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: Here you go, oh rut for downs without a doubt.

953
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: Make no make no mistake.

954
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Speaker 5: I've been rooting. I'm even rooting for Boston. How do

955
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 5: you like that? And I don't like Celtics. I got

956
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 5: no skin in the game.

957
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: What.

958
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 4: I'm just tired of this this wild narrative that it's

959
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 4: just like we've turned this into some carryover every year

960
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 4: that the Celtic.

961
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Speaker 5: We're doing the same thing to.

962
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Speaker 4: The Celtics right now that we did the Bills last year,

963
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: they're doing the Cowboys this year, like we just apply

964
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Speaker 4: you know the fact that it hasn't come together when

965
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Speaker 4: they needed to into suddenly this narrative, this certain guys

966
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Speaker 4: suck and I just want that to infer Tatum and

967
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 4: for Brown, like I'm just tired of the all they're

968
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 4: doers choke.

969
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 5: Well, all they do.

970
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 4: Is get to the Eastern Conference Finals, which is better

971
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Speaker 4: than most teams. So, you know, like just and every

972
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 4: year is not that. Every year is different. Every year

973
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 4: is its own beast. That's the hill I'm dying on.

974
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I will agree with you on that.

975
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 7: But there's a certain level of expectation that you said

976
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 7: when you make get that far every single year and

977
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 7: you continue to fall short. So you can use Boston,

978
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 7: you can use Buffalo, you can use the Dodgers. There's

979
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Speaker 7: many of examples of teams at some point like now.

980
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Speaker 4: We look back at that Bills there and say, oh

981
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 4: my god, how did we not appreciate four straight Super Bowls?

982
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 5: Even if they lost all four?

983
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 4: Sure if Twitter had existed, then that entire group of

984
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: people would have to go on into hiding, right, Like,

985
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 4: so I just the fact that you know they've they've

986
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 4: been in the Eastern Conference.

987
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 5: Finals six of the last eight years. I want to

988
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 5: see him pull it out. I just I want the.

989
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: The Celtics hate to die down for a second. Let

990
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 4: him win one and then we can you know, resell.

991
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: God, God, it makes my skin crawl.

992
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: Let them win one here with that nonset. I freaking

993
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: hate them, freaking hate them.

994
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, it's funny.

995
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: I was on a plane yesterday or yeah, he was

996
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: yesterday last night. I got I'd get home till like,

997
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: uh one o'clock in the morning.

998
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: Whoever, it was twelve thirty last night.

999
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: I flew into Newark and I during the flight over,

1000
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 2: I watched The Departed And you know, you guys watched

1001
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: this all of de party, right, yeah, definitely, yeah. I

1002
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: mean it's you know, it's it's Boston's anthem, you right, yes, right,

1003
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: I mean it's just it's great.

1004
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 6: It's one of the great movies ever, and it's just

1005
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 6: don't fight. It's just Boston.

1006
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 2: Like I respect Boston to the end degree, but man,

1007
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: I hate them. If you're from Philadelphia, you have to

1008
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: hate them, like it's just there's no because we're like cousins.

1009
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: We're the bigger cousin, but we're cousins and it's like

1010
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: we're rival cousins, so I freaking it can't stand them,

1011
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 2: and you give me all this Boston love because you're

1012
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: in the shadows in Connecticut.

1013
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 3: You know I can't take it.

1014
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 5: I think because I have no skin in the game,

1015
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 5: Like this is well.

1016
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 4: I always say I love covering college football because I

1017
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 4: genuinely don't care who wins or loses.

1018
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 5: I just want the best story.

1019
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think the Celtics rising through the MAVs,

1020
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: like I need the Celtics to go up to nothing,

1021
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 4: then down three to two and then come back and

1022
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: win the series. And seven where Luca misses what could

1023
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 4: be the game winning shot in Game seven of.

1024
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: The Luca deserves some love.

1025
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 5: I mean, Luca's got plenty of love.

1026
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 7: I'll hold on Les lucas one of the biggest crimes.

1027
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 5: And he he was.

1028
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: Being destroyed a month and a half ago for being

1029
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: a cry baby. And I've heard more like fat shaming

1030
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: on Luca than like you could ever imagine. And then

1031
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden, everybody's back on the

1032
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 4: Luca train. Now that he's hitting all these clutch shots.

1033
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 4: It's like, oh no, I was always on the Luca thing.

1034
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 4: It's like really really, I don't know.

1035
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 6: Did you guys see he had a beer confiscated after

1036
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 6: the game. Yes, that was pretty good.

1037
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was funny like that, who's that?

1038
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 6: Who took it from him?

1039
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: Just a Michael Finley, Michael Michael Finley, Michael Finley took

1040
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: it from That was the best.

1041
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 3: He was with his father and.

1042
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: He's drinking his beer and Michael Finley comes over just

1043
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: snatches the beer fro.

1044
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: I lie loved it. It was great.

1045
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 6: I love Luca.

1046
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 5: Look.

1047
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: The best is when they slow it down the other

1048
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: day and he goes, who's bleeping crying?

1049
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 6: Now?

1050
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 5: Mother?

1051
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 6: I love the trash talk. He's the best.

1052
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 5: I love him.

1053
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 7: Man, I love the trash talk. But he does playing

1054
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 7: literally every single solitary play.

1055
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was the way you said, mother, father, because

1056
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: we're on radio, only makes me laugh because you know,

1057
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: in high school, I like to play a lot of

1058
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 4: basketball with my friends. And I was right right when

1059
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 4: I first moved to Nashville. Actually, I was playing in

1060
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 4: like a church league down here, and I was playing

1061
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: in a game and I got frustrated with myself, so

1062
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 4: I said, jimminy Christmas really loud, and that's all I

1063
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: said Jimmy christ And because I say that all the

1064
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 4: time so I don't offend anybody. And I was Jimmy

1065
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 4: Christmas and the ref tied me up. The ref tied

1066
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: me up Jimmy Christmas. So I went nuts on the

1067
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: ref and got myself a technical foul and suspended for

1068
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 4: three games, all because I said Jimmy Christmas to myself.

1069
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 5: So you know, I heard you say mother father, and

1070
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 5: it just made me.

1071
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 6: It's great.

1072
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 4: I got tied up, suspended three games. That might have

1073
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: been for the thing correctly.

1074
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 5: To the official afterwards.

1075
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 7: But still you want to say one of the magic

1076
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 7: words they would have had you arrested, right, I mean,

1077
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 7: she's Jimmy Christmas.

1078
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 6: Really, well, it's.

1079
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: The Bible belt down here, guys. There was a Bible

1080
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 4: belt in the late nineties, no less. So like you know,

1081
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 4: even even more Christmas.

1082
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: Get up suspended.

1083
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 6: It's crazy, it's unreal.

1084
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 5: Well, you know that's what happens. It happens.

1085
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 3: Well, mother father.

1086
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: I've always said that that's around because the other way,

1087
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: that's always been my favorite curse word. Like there was

1088
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: a who was it? He did the Actors Studio. He's

1089
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: the best.

1090
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 5: James White, He lived in.

1091
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: James James Lipton, and he would always ask what's your

1092
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 2: favorite curse word? And I always loved mother father, Like

1093
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: you just go mother father, Like the way it just

1094
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: rolls is great, and like it's sports, especially basketball, like

1095
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: it just goes right, like it's it's a way to

1096
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: punch back.

1097
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: You put somebody in verbally their face with that.

1098
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 4: No, my So, my dad was never a big swear

1099
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 4: growing up, but my mom always was like all my

1100
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 4: mom at mouth of a sailor. And you know, my

1101
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: mom was a prominent casino executive when I was a

1102
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 4: little kid, and you know, famously threw an entire football

1103
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: team out for whistling at a cocktail waitress. So like,

1104
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 4: my mom was a tough woman and very very smart

1105
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 4: and just drops f bombs like I swear all the

1106
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: when the MIC's not on. I understand that I have

1107
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 4: a very offensive leg like my like, which is terrible.

1108
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 5: I get that from my mom.

1109
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 4: But the funny thing is I remember somebody saying to

1110
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 4: my mom at one point, getting in my mom's face.

1111
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 4: I remember this as a kid and saying, you know

1112
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: what if if that's all you can say, If all

1113
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: you can say is the F wort then you obviously

1114
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 4: don't have anything better to say. And my mom just

1115
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 4: looked at the lady and said, look, when I can

1116
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 4: find something else that's as powerful to say, is this

1117
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 4: that doesn't involve it, I'll try it, but in the meantime,

1118
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 4: F you and I'll.

1119
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 5: Never forget this. She got right in her face few and.

1120
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 4: I was like, oh god, that is that's just part

1121
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 4: of who I am. Like, I drop f bombs all

1122
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: the time. I know this, it's not it's not healthy,

1123
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 4: it's not good. I try to be better with it.

1124
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 7: But it's Samuel is coming a multi millionaire by doing that,

1125
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 7: So I mean it works, that's the way I look

1126
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 7: at it.

1127
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yes, that is that is fair.

1128
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: I got I gotta get off this mother father plane.

1129
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 7: Every movie unless it was Star Wars or a Marvel film,

1130
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 7: trust me, he's getting the over unders about six or seven,

1131
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 7: and he's usually hitting the over yes.

1132
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 4: Yes as a constant in one now. Because you know,

1133
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: when I'm trying to be clean, which is most of

1134
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 4: the time with this one, I say son of a

1135
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 4: biscuit all the time.

1136
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 5: Son of a biscuit.

1137
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: That's good, That is good.

1138
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 6: Son of a biscuit.

1139
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 3: Listen, you son of a biscuit, the.

1140
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: Way you say it, the way you have a lilt,

1141
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: like you gotta have a lilt when you say it,

1142
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: your son of a biscuit, Like, you know, you.

1143
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: Got to have that thing. There's a way.

1144
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: There's a cadence, and there's a cadence to cursing too,

1145
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: especially it's sport. Like if you're playing you're playing a

1146
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: game with someone and you're going at it, you gotta

1147
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: have the cadence, right.

1148
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 7: Because seriously, if you you know, you can't figure it

1149
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 7: together nicely, you know exactly.

1150
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: What I mean, trust me, Like you're a playground or whatever,

1151
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: you're playing ball, you got to say it the right way, right,

1152
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 2: you got.

1153
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 6: Because then you're just gonna get laughed at.

1154
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 3: Right?

1155
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 10: Really, this guy that's great on BBS. Oh my god,

1156
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 10: that's great. Let's get back to it. So God's from

1157
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 10: this role.

1158
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: All this little rift was Fitzy professing love for the

1159
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: Celtics and Mike. I guess my question is Tadum and

1160
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 2: Brown do Tatum and Brown deserve your love and poor

1161
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: pity one or the other that you're offering them.

1162
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 5: I mean why not?

1163
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: Why?

1164
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: I mean I mean yes, like like yannest to me,

1165
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 2: I wanted Yannis to win.

1166
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 6: I didn't deserve to win.

1167
00:53:54,440 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: Y Yada's buses ants right, yas hate him, he's half

1168
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: a loser. Like tell like I got no pity out

1169
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: of Tatum? Why you show up in the fourth fluoriter

1170
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: all the time? Like it said, you disappeared all the time.

1171
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: What's he what's he done that?

1172
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 6: You are?

1173
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 3: Poor Jason Tatum, he's hell out that he's.

1174
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 4: A remarkable player that we're constantly like, oh do it

1175
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter.

1176
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 5: And it's not like he's been remarkable play.

1177
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 6: But again, don't we judge sports and greatness?

1178
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: We yes, we just don't you gotta be don't you

1179
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: gotta come in clutch, coming big time? Like what they said,

1180
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: bleep you fit see that's what Lucas said. And what's

1181
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: Tatum done? He never does that.

1182
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 5: We can't look at all of it in a vacuum.

1183
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 5: That's all like, So.

1184
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 4: Look, I use hardened hardens, the the Evil Empire version

1185
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: of all this because as Sarah Spain, like, he just

1186
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: there are times where like it's not even that he

1187
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 4: doesn't come up clutch, it's that like he just.

1188
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 5: Right and and I you.

1189
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 4: Know, I've talked to a couple of former NBA players

1190
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 4: and asked it, like, is that reelers that perceived And

1191
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 4: a couple of former guys that played in the league

1192
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 4: were like, nope, we all know it. Like all you

1193
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 4: got to do is just get in his head a

1194
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 4: little bit and he's done. I think that's different than

1195
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: Tatum's had some opportunities. Maybe hasn't been able to see him,

1196
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 4: but he's also had to do heavy lifting at times.

1197
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: He's It's not like I just haven't seen the same level.

1198
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: I haven't seen hard and like failure from Tatum, and

1199
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 4: I feel like he's treated.

1200
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he's hard, and I mean hard is

1201
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: his special kind of loser. It's like hard and quits

1202
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: like he's a front runner. He's the worst kind. Molly

1203
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: points to you, is I like TAM's are right? Like

1204
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: I have not just take this green off of him,

1205
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 2: take that that green jersey off of him.

1206
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 6: I got no real issue with him, But he doesn't

1207
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 6: deserve my pity.

1208
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: It's like you're giving it a pity and I go,

1209
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 2: what's he what's he done to go to deserve that?

1210
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 3: He played?

1211
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 5: Really?

1212
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's played well enough to deserve benefit of the

1213
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 4: doubt line. If he comes through in this series, if

1214
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 4: they win, will that stop all of this chatter about like, oh,

1215
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 4: he's not he doesn't have a clutch, team doesn't have.

1216
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing, I trust Brown more I

1217
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: trust Tatum.

1218
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 6: Yep. I think I said this to you guys a

1219
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago. I love Brown. Tatum.

1220
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 7: I like he's a good player, He's a better individual

1221
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 7: basketball player, But I feel like Jayleen Brown more of

1222
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 7: that whatever that factor is.

1223
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: Yes, Tatum, you're right, Tatum is better, is terrific, spectacular,

1224
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: tut the ballplayer he's but who's got stones?

1225
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, the dog in him? That's Jaylen Brown more than Tatum.

1226
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 4: And I just feel like, but the expectation on how

1227
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 4: much dog has had to be carried has been so

1228
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 4: different for the two of them, Like Brown, Brown doesn't

1229
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 4: walk in with this heaping Oh my god, you better

1230
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 4: do that, Like it doesn't feel the same to me,

1231
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 4: Like maybe maybe I'm just maybe my head's in the

1232
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 4: sand on it, but it just it feels like we're

1233
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,959
Speaker 4: sitting here saying these things about Brown, but the same

1234
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 4: expectation hasn't been heaped on Brown.

1235
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 5: That has been heaped on table to who much is given?

1236
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 6: Much as required?

1237
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 7: We said, We just said Tatum is a better player

1238
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 7: than Brown, so he has to be able to show

1239
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 7: it when it matters most. You got to be the

1240
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 7: best player and the toughest player. You gotta give me

1241
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 7: the Kobe.

1242
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not. I don't disagree with any of that.

1243
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 4: I don't think a few times of coming up short

1244
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 4: in the game is the reason for that time.

1245
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 7: A few times, a few times, sixth time you say

1246
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 7: six in the last eight years in the.

1247
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 4: Conference, last morning, every conference final on him for not

1248
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 4: being able to win it.

1249
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 6: Like is that flyer you got? Yes, everyone says player, yes,

1250
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 6: fools your shoulder.

1251
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 7: Unless he shot sixty five percent from the field and

1252
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 7: score forty five, then then yeah.

1253
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, that's how it goes again.

1254
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: Yis took Yadis took a lot of heat before we

1255
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 2: won it, and he and he carried them, carry them

1256
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: and Bouls has got a better team too.

1257
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 6: By the way, definitely, I.

1258
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 4: Agree with you that Giannis took some heat. I think

1259
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 4: Tatum is taking. It feels to me like Tatum takes

1260
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 4: more heat.

1261
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 5: I feel like the.

1262
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 6: Overdome light's bigger because of where he's playing to Yad

1263
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 6: has won it. Here's the thing.

1264
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: If ya has never won, you know, the Yanish Heat,

1265
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: but he won and he shut everybody up.

1266
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 4: So if Tatum wins this year, then that that changes everything.

1267
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 4: This is I think the hard part about this, all

1268
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 4: of this for me, is that every one of these

1269
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 4: runs to the Eastern Conference Final has been different, and

1270
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 4: every one of the teams that they've had has been different,

1271
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 4: and every one of their opponents.

1272
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: That's every year Nuance, right, that's nuanced man, step what Tatum, what.

1273
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 7: They do as this point they do all end up

1274
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 7: getting lumped together.

1275
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 3: Of course they do.

1276
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 6: You know, puts in years from now. That's what it's

1277
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 6: gonna be looked at.

1278
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 2: Of course, best the way it is, but sooner or later,

1279
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: you gotta show up in a big spot. I'm sorry.

1280
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: If you want to be some great listen, he's a

1281
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: terrific bull player. He's amazingly talented. But if you want

1282
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: to be on that level, I don't want to hear

1283
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: it like he has to and to me, after all

1284
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: this time, he does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

1285
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: You just got done. So we just got done talking

1286
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: about cat. I mean, you know, step up, you guys.

1287
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 2: This is it, like you know, that's it? No more

1288
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: so let's see what he's a favorite the Celtics Harmonies

1289
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: two ten. Yeah, I'll go the other way with you

1290
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: and go if they don't win, he's he's born. He's

1291
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: not hardened, because nobody will be hardened, but he is.

1292
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's just never going to win.

1293
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 4: I just look according to stat mus, and I haven't

1294
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 4: looked this up all the way, but according to stat Mus,

1295
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 4: in his career, Jason Tatum has averaged twenty four point

1296
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 4: four points.

1297
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: I don't care about that.

1298
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 5: Hold on.

1299
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 4: Just just in the Eastern Conference finals alone, he's averaged

1300
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 4: twenty four point four eight point three and five. I

1301
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 4: know that there have been moments he hasn't come up big,

1302
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 4: But we talk about him like he's trash.

1303
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 5: You haveagel.

1304
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: No, you're wrong, stop with that. Talk about him like

1305
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: god sense, that's non sense. We just got thumb telling

1306
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: you that he's a tremendous player, trumendous player, that he's

1307
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: the best player on the team, that he's way better

1308
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: than Brown.

1309
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 6: We got them telling you that.

1310
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 5: So you're wrong. I'm saying, yeah, but yeah, but yeah,

1311
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 5: but it's only yeah.

1312
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: Because you know why, because he hasn't won, because you.

1313
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 5: Have even been in that she went out twenty five.

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Speaker 2: He's been up with failure every time a big games.

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Speaker 4: Even had been in that situation without his twenty five eight.

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Speaker 2: Irrelevant counselor irrelevant. If you're a great player and you

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Speaker 2: want flowers, then you got to show up.

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Speaker 5: I'm twenty five eight and five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it's all great to do stats when they

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Speaker 2: blow somebody out one twenty eight to eighty eight and

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Speaker 2: he's got thirty seven fifteen six. Because when you watch

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Speaker 2: that team, that's what they are to a front running team.

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Speaker 2: They go out and they blow teams out, and they

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Speaker 2: pick up stats, and you can take that stat muse

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Speaker 2: and stick it up your gigee, Fellas hag Itt Fuck

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Speaker 3: The Tatum debate is interesting.

1337
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: It's like what we expect from supreme athletes. Right, So

1338
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: let's take it to a love of sport. Let's take

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Speaker 2: it to football, and I'll throw let's go Josh Allen. Now,

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01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: I look at Josh Allen and I go, Wow, you

1341
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: don't put enough around Josh Allen. Now is that our

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01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 2: our Tatum and Josh Allen similar? Because I think I

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01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: think they they don't put it enough around Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: I think the tide's gonna turn on Josh Allen if

1345
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 4: results don't change quickly. Like there's this interesting Josh Allen.

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01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 4: I think we could do a whole psychological study on

1347
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 4: this because, frankly, so many people were just absolutely wrong

1348
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 4: about Josh Allen when he was drafted, and then there

1349
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 4: were years of you can't fix the accuracy, he can't

1350
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 4: fix the accuracy. Buffalo shut out all the noise. To

1351
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 4: their credit, they developed the quarterback and then all of

1352
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 4: a sudden it was, oh my god, he's great, and

1353
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 4: I think he changed. He made so many people look

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01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 4: foolish that now everybody's very careful about looking foolish again.

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Speaker 5: Josh is a great.

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Speaker 4: Player, but at some point, if we hold the same

1357
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 4: standard most of the time with quarterbacks, at some point

1358
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 4: it's like the seesaw of the teeter totter, depending on

1359
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 4: where you grew up, it eventually moves and goes to

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Speaker 4: the other direction. Right now, he's beloved and everybody does

1361
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 4: look at it, and I think you're right. There isn't

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01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 4: enough around him this year. They're gonna make him lift

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Speaker 4: even more. But if the Bills take a step backwards

1364
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden they're an eight win team

1365
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 4: this year, you can't tell me they're not going to be.

1366
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Speaker 4: People saying, well, when you page ash, he needs to

1367
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 4: be able to elevate the talent that's around him, Like

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Speaker 4: there will come a point where the Mahomes effect will

1369
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 4: be much like the Brady effect was. But we forget

1370
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Speaker 4: sometimes that Peyton Manning at one point had that whole

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Speaker 4: can't win the big one, you know, like can't find

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Speaker 4: his way to get through it. Like that was a

1373
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Speaker 4: real conversation about Peyton after college and then coming into

1374
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Speaker 4: the pros. He had to find a way to get

1375
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 4: that monkey off his back. I think that does happen

1376
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Speaker 4: to Josh Allen in the next year or two if

1377
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 4: he doesn't find a way to get through Mahomes. I'm

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01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 4: not even saying it's a super Bowl He's got a

1379
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Speaker 4: great through Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like de Manning and Brady.

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Speaker 2: I mean watching you know, I'm from that standpoint fake,

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Speaker 2: I say, Josh Allen, you say.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to say the word underachiever because there's

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01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 7: also an element of, Yeah, there's the Brady effect because

1385
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 7: you're going up against you know, Pastorck Mahomes could be

1386
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Speaker 7: end up becoming the greatest player, or at least the

1387
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Speaker 7: greatest quarterp back in the history of the sport.

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Speaker 6: And so you knock on that door constantly. And how

1389
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 6: many times would you say his teams were better?

1390
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Speaker 7: Maybe once once you know that that thirteen second game

1391
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Speaker 7: a couple of years ago that they lost that they

1392
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 7: probably should have won when they've gone head to head

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Speaker 7: at least in the postseason.

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Speaker 6: So was his fault?

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Speaker 7: No, And so there's also an element of and I

1396
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 7: guess it's a little bit different in football too than

1397
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 7: it is in basketball, because there's there's more players, there's

1398
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Speaker 7: more variables that fall into you know, at five on five,

1399
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Speaker 7: you know, if you're the best player on the floor,

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Speaker 7: a lot of times, it could trump whatever else is

1401
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 7: going on. Rams took a lot of untalented teams, specifically

1402
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 7: his first team in Cleveland to an NBA final that

1403
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 7: but they had no business being there.

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01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 6: So there's a little bit of a difference.

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Speaker 7: But I do understand the argument with Josh Allen until

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Speaker 7: your point fits, yes, whether it whether it's fair or not,

1407
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 7: his fault or not. If he does not win in

1408
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 7: these next couple of seasons, the shine is going to

1409
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 7: come off. And I think to a certain degree it

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Speaker 7: already has to for a lot of people, Josh Allen

1411
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Speaker 7: being one of the top. Remember a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 7: some people had Josh Allen rated higher than Patrick Mahomes,

1413
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 7: even though padd had already won. They said, well, yeah, Mahomes,

1414
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 7: says Andy Reid, And it's a better infrastructure and players

1415
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 7: are better around him. He as Tyreek Hill and all that.

1416
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 7: Josh Allen's a better player. Now you don't hear that

1417
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 7: chatter anymore, and Josh Allen is going further and further

1418
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 7: down the wrong, the more and more he doesn't win.

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Speaker 4: Well, And isn't it like, Look, I don't want to

1420
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 4: be I like to be Polly positive early in the morning,

1421
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 4: and I don't want to be Debbie Downer.

1422
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Speaker 5: But let's be real. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: If you want to beat the Chiefs right now, you

1424
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 4: have to beat the best coach in the best quarterback

1425
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 4: combo in the entire NFL. I keep saying that, So like,

1426
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Speaker 4: even if Josh Allen is great, if his tag team partner.

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Speaker 5: Sean McDermott, the head coach, is not every bit on

1428
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Speaker 5: the level of Andy Reid, then you are.

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Speaker 4: You gotta make up ground. And I think that's part

1430
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Speaker 4: of what we've forgetting all of this, Like the Chiefs.

1431
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 4: Same with Brady Belichick. I hate to burst everybody's bubble

1432
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 4: when they want to have this conversation about was it

1433
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 4: Brady or was it Belichick? Guys, what if it was

1434
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 4: both and it was both of them together that was

1435
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 4: the magical combination that made them the power duo that

1436
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 4: they were that led them to Super Bowls. What if

1437
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 4: we're seeing that again right now with Mahomes and Andy Reid.

1438
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 5: And by the way, if.

1439
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 4: That's the case, what if Andy Reid decides to coach

1440
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 4: for another eight years because he's winning Super Bowls a

1441
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 4: year after year after year, we might never see an

1442
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 4: era of dominance like this again, Like that's the moment.

1443
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: That's what we're going to be saying when it comes

1444
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,959
Speaker 4: to Mahomes and Andy Reid. So what makes it really

1445
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 4: difficult is how do we view failure? What is success

1446
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 4: or failure in a team sport when what's being asked

1447
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 4: of you is not just to be the best at

1448
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 4: your position, but.

1449
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Speaker 5: To have the best team, the best coach, the best player.

1450
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Speaker 6: Everything you're spot on.

1451
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, you know, I don't think that

1452
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: maybe I have to divorce myself because I know Sean

1453
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 2: very well. I'm very fine the Shawn no aighties through

1454
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: different coaches, because Andy is comes from the offensive side.

1455
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: Ais the master. Sean worked for Andy, and you know,

1456
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: and he plucks Seawan, you know, basically from as through

1457
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: an intern. You know, he put them along and Searltz

1458
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 2: defensive guy. So you know, I mean, it's it's hard

1459
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 2: to talk about those two Josh Allen and Sean McDermott

1460
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: in that sense the way you would do breed and Mahomes.

1461
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: But to your point, I just don't think there's and

1462
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: they've had enough around them. I don't think player wise,

1463
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 2: personnel wise, they've been good enough. They've lacked They've always

1464
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 2: either lacked a running game and then they got one

1465
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 2: with Cook right, but before that they left their running game.

1466
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: They've always lacked receiver depth and did sad and that

1467
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 2: never had enough on defense playmakers. I mean watching the

1468
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,520
Speaker 2: Bengals watching right.

1469
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Speaker 5: Go ahead, go ahead, No, no.

1470
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Speaker 4: And that just speaks to the fact that now I'm

1471
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 4: saying best coach, best quarterback, and one of the best gms.

1472
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 4: Like I'm putting all of that together one like, because

1473
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 4: you're you're right, Like I don't think McDermott is a

1474
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 4: I think Sean McDermott's a very very good coach. I

1475
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 4: just happen to think Andy Reid is a Hall of Famer.

1476
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 4: That's the best of the best right now. So like,

1477
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 4: it's not that you're not great, it's just a ain't

1478
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 4: as great as he is. Like you got that, yes,

1479
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 4: and you're right, Like there hasn't been there have been

1480
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 4: holes in the roster every time, but there have been

1481
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 4: holes in the roster for Kansas City too. The difference

1482
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 4: is like you got Mahomes, who's a cheat code for it?

1483
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 4: With Andy Reid, who's the cheat code for it?

1484
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you also have spags who I mean, they

1485
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: won because the defense. Like one of the things is

1486
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: amazing is they win this year because of their defense

1487
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: and Mahomes, Right, it's only Mahomes and and their defense

1488
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: was spectacular, So you know, I guess.

1489
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 3: It's the whole.

1490
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,799
Speaker 2: It really is the kind of Patriot way versus Kansas

1491
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 2: City culture, right, And Buffalo's used to shorty late dollars

1492
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: short right, Like that's that's kind of out feels.

1493
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 7: But the funky thing is, and this is football and

1494
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 7: professional sports to a certain degree, that game a couple

1495
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 7: of years ago in the postseason. You know, if they

1496
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 7: manage the clock better and that kickoff situation and it's

1497
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 7: not thirteen seconds and they get the short return and

1498
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 7: Kansas City ties it and wins in overtime, and Buffalo

1499
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 7: wins a super Bowl, we're not talking about any of this.

1500
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 6: Like that's how small the margin is? Yeah?

1501
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 3: Is that small?

1502
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 6: Like I say, Buffalo's not good enough?

1503
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 11: Not?

1504
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 6: I mean, that was spectacular. That was a back and

1505
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 6: forth fourth quarter.

1506
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 7: They had the lead with thirteen seconds left and just

1507
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 7: could not close it out because of a special team's play.

1508
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 7: And I don't know if that Sean mcdermot's fault. I

1509
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 7: don't think that that that's just bad luck. I don't

1510
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 7: know what you want to chalk it up to, but

1511
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 7: it's all like the gap was so wide between the

1512
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 7: two teams, they just didn't get the bounce, unfortunately.

1513
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 4: And that's why it just feels like right now, it

1514
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 4: feels like whether we're talking about Joe Burrow or Josh Allen,

1515
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 4: either one you have a much better chance to either

1516
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 4: of those quarterbacks end up being Dan Marino the oh

1517
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 4: my god, I can't believe he never won a Super

1518
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 4: Bowl quarterback, then you do. Having either of those quarterbacks

1519
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 4: host the Lombardi regularly over the course of the next

1520
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 4: several years, and I'd like both quarterbacks a lot. I

1521
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 4: wish my favorite team had either of those guys, and

1522
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 4: I think both of those teams can be Super Bowl contenders.

1523
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 4: You're in and you're out because the quarterbacks are so good.

1524
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 4: It's just that's just not gonna be good enough. You're

1525
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 4: gonna have to You're going to have.

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01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 5: To catch Kansas City on a day where everything's gone wrong.

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01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. You know

1528
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 3: what's funny.

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01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 2: I love this comparison with NBA players and quarterbacks.

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01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 6: So so let's get back.

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01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 2: So let's get back real quick. If Tatum is a quarterback,

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01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: who is he?

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01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 4: Okay, So if he's a quarterback, he's a really really

1534
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 4: good quarterback that just hasn't won it yet, right.

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01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 3: Or where has got a lot of bloated stats?

1536
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 5: Oh man, a lot? He's great? Just is it?

1537
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert like like, hasn't won enough but puts up

1538
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 4: a bunch of numbers and everybody else.

1539
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 7: I would have gone, you were warm on Herbert. I'm

1540
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 7: going on with a guy who's a career already ended.

1541
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 7: But like if Tatum's career, you know, ended five, six,

1542
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 7: seven years from now without a title, but all the stats,

1543
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 7: I'd say.

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01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 6: Philip Rivers, well it's pretty good, all.

1545
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 7: The stats, made it to the playoffs every year, Yeah,

1546
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 7: and just couldn't get it done for whatever reason.

1547
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good. That's pretty good.

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01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 6: That's he was kind of the first person I thought of.

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01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: Your first guy thought off was.

1550
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 7: Da Oh see, Tadum was a better NBA player than

1551
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 7: dak is a quarterback though. Sorry, yeah, I don't know

1552
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 7: if Ion.

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01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 2: It's funny, you're right then no, I don't know what's

1554
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 2: because those two teams just kind of blend together.

1555
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 7: I'm sure it is, right and to a certain degree,

1556
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 7: I understand the comparison. Yeah, but right right, like there's just.

1557
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 2: A little like if you don't like you look at

1558
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 2: this team that he had to have. Now, the Celtics

1559
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: are good, like and I'm teasing you, FITZI about you know,

1560
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 2: they're the favorite.

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01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 6: All they're good, dude, like you're rocking true.

1562
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 2: Holiday right, like you forget about Derek White, forget about

1563
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: Datum and Brown. The role players on this team are good.

1564
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: They have a terrific team.

1565
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 6: Like if they don't win, they lump.

1566
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 2: They they they lump, especially by the way, right like

1567
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: they're lumpers if they don't win, like they have to win.

1568
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 4: Or or or they lose in the finals and they

1569
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 4: running back next year.

1570
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 5: Because he's still gonna be bad.

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01:13:53,880 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they're the cowboys, you know, all right, we're

1572
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 2: gonna take quick to I like, I love the all right,

1573
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 2: so who's Luca think about it?

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01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 6: All right?

1575
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: Tell me on the other side, where the Fellas hanging

1576
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: right here Fox Sports Radio Fellas from the tai Iraq

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01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: dot com studios.

1578
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 6: We're playing the game, so that's where we are.

1579
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: The NBA player as the NFL quarterback, so the superstar

1580
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: as the quarterback.

1581
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 3: So who is Luca?

1582
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 4: So I thought, I thought about this one for a

1583
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 4: minute and it was pretty easy. You need somebody that

1584
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 4: can make an incredible play when you need it in

1585
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 4: the clutch. You need somebody that's just got ice in

1586
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 4: their veins, and you need somebody that will talk his

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 4: talk throughout the course of the entire game. Right, that

1588
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 4: sounds but as at one the chip yet right doesn't

1589
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 4: have the chip. That's got to be Burrow, Lucas Joe Burrow.

1590
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 4: That that's there's like a like a cool arrogance to him.

1591
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 4: There's a swagginess to him. But there's also I know

1592
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 4: he can save me from any situation because he's that

1593
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 4: damn goodness to him.

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01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 5: That's that. Yeah, I'm going Joe Burrow with Luka Dancic.

1595
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. That's not on.

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01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I think. That's now.

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01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: I think it's really good, excellent. I was trying to

1598
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: figure about who who and you're right. The attributes, you know,

1599
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 2: can look just fantastic, has been crushed by what's around them,

1600
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: you know, just be some injuries.

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01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, excellent, excellent. Who's who's in beeed?

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01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 5: Mmmm? That's so what do we what do we like? Okay,

1603
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 5: tremendous talent? H huh? Keep going?

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01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: Who is state by injury? Because it was funny because

1605
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 2: Barrow reminded me a little bit of him b because

1606
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: of the injury.

1607
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 3: But I think you're right. I think Lucas more the FED.

1608
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: But he's always been like he gets killed by injury,

1609
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: killed by supporting cast.

1610
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 3: And and for.

1611
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 7: Talking just share ability and just taking any off field stuff,

1612
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 7: for any of that conversation out of it. I can

1613
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 7: see a Deshaun Watson comparison with him as far as

1614
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 7: someone who was ultra productive early in his career. Injuries

1615
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 7: happened all fields again, off, he.

1616
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 2: Had his two best years like he's he had two

1617
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: great years last actually three. Yeah, he was a little

1618
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 2: bagged up this year, but he I mean, was he

1619
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 2: MVP last year?

1620
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 5: Right?

1621
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1622
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 7: And I'm saying like we I mean, look before then,

1623
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 7: look his injuries. When Watson's injury, I don't know I

1624
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 7: can even throw a four pass at this point with

1625
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 7: a shoulder situation.

1626
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 6: But I mean when he.

1627
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 7: Could, when he could, I mean, this guy got MVP

1628
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 7: vaults when he was in Houston. It's all like that

1629
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 7: level of talent and ability, but he hasn't realized it

1630
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 7: or hasn't taken it to the next step because he

1631
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 7: just hasn't been able to stay healthy.

1632
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 5: Well, hear me out, can't sit right now and I'm

1633
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 5: only talking about right now.

1634
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 4: Can't stay healthy at times, hasn't had the best around him.

1635
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 4: But when he does, you know he can still beat

1636
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 4: you from absolutely anywhere, and you know that he's an

1637
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 4: MVB caliber player.

1638
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 5: He's Aaron Rodgers. Like he's not old.

1639
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 4: He doesn't have the Super Bowl, but like you're describing,

1640
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers right now, can't stay healthy on the field,

1641
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 4: has had some issues with some of the players that

1642
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 4: were around him, But my god, you know that if

1643
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 4: you give him what he needs, he can take you

1644
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 4: all the way to a championship.

1645
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 5: And you know that he's one of the best.

1646
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 6: How about Lamar for embeid Oh the injury concerns, He's

1647
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 6: got an MVP under his belt.

1648
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 5: I's pretty good too. Yeah, I like that a lot.

1649
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 7: You can also and might not want to hear this,

1650
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 7: but has had his share of struggles in big games

1651
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 7: in the playoffs. I think that's fair for Lamar and

1652
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 7: in certain times Embeid as well.

1653
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean you're not wrong.

1654
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:07,600
Speaker 2: I've all I've always thought of beating the big games.

1655
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 2: Now listen, Yeah, that's fair. I mean there were times

1656
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 2: the problem has been who's next to them? Right, Like,

1657
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: because when you're big, you need you need, you know,

1658
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 2: a face to basket guy next to you creating stuff

1659
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: for you. But now you're right something to that. Yeah,

1660
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 2: I think what mars great. I think that's a great

1661
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 2: one and I think that's spot on. That's very good.

1662
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 2: All right, let's go all timers. This is fun. Actually,

1663
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 2: this is this been a good thing. This wig a

1664
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 2: good thing for social media. Uh Brady is.

1665
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 5: I mean, so Brad Ray Jorda.

1666
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 3: Is braid Brady Bird.

1667
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 6: See. I feel like I'll go on fits Forkby he

1668
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 6: could be Kobe.

1669
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, because here's the thing, he's not Jordan to me,

1670
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 4: because I mean, he's just not I just can't make

1671
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 4: that cop.

1672
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

1673
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 4: I can't look at the picture of Brady when he

1674
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 4: was trapped I never make the cop to Jordan, but

1675
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 4: you're right. All the chips have to matter to it.

1676
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 4: He's won a lot of different ways, right and for sure,

1677
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 4: and he's been able.

1678
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 5: To will his team about Coch. Good.

1679
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 4: Wait, but he's got some championship he's got some Super

1680
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 4: Bowl losses too.

1681
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 5: Why not Lebron?

1682
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 3: That's good?

1683
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,480
Speaker 5: I mean Lebron.

1684
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 2: I guess personality wise, they remind me of each other

1685
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 2: more than Lebron. His body work is his body work

1686
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 2: is akin to a Lebron, But Brady and Kobe's personality

1687
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: I think are more similar.

1688
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 3: Fake what do you say?

1689
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 7: You guys will probably think I'll be under selling him

1690
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 7: by comparing him to Bill Russell, A guy who won

1691
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 7: a lot, great coach, great organization at times, yes, because

1692
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 7: of his own individual prowess, but at times because the

1693
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 7: infrastructure around him was great too. Doesn't diminish him as

1694
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 7: an individual player. But I don't know if he was

1695
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 7: a thousand percent the catalyst as to why they always

1696
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 7: won a lot of a lot of the d Russell.

1697
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 3: No, I can't.

1698
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to this right right, Well,

1699
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 2: we've got to continue to talking about now.

1700
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 3: We have to do this on the other side.

1701
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: All right, we're tagging out here Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: Buddy, happy, happy, happy June. The month of June. Oh,

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Speaker 6: it was a great month.

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Speaker 3: Starts to summer in earnest.

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Speaker 2: As we kick it all off, and then uh, next thing,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's football season as we're talking about the

1710
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Speaker 2: finals and we're discussing the NBA star who is the quarterback?

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Speaker 2: So we're joining the parallels, which is a fun exercise.

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Speaker 2: stuts When I say June first, something automatically comes to

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Speaker 2: my mind.

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Speaker 3: It's not the same, but it's from the past.

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Speaker 6: What is it? June first cuts?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: Do you remember how it was always so pronounced? Right?

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Speaker 6: I always remember that.

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Speaker 7: They'll see it's still a thing. But the problem is

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Speaker 7: you can do it like you can make a June

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Speaker 7: yes cut in April.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, you can. You can do that back in

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Speaker 6: the day, back in.

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Speaker 2: The day you won, like June one was a big

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Speaker 2: day in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Calend right, God, you're so right.

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Speaker 4: Like the ability to designate those moving forward has changed

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Speaker 4: that whole extra level of all right, well, who's out

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Speaker 4: on the open market?

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Speaker 5: Second wave of free agency post draft?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so funny that I think at

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Speaker 2: June first. That's the first thing I think of when

1740
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 2: I hear that date, June one. It's bizarre how that

1741
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 2: league is just in our just it's indelible in our

1742
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,799
Speaker 2: subconscious and in our minds.

1743
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 3: It's amazing, truly amazing.

1744
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 2: All Right, So let's play this little game here, the

1745
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 2: NBA star as the quarterback. We do modern day and

1746
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: we could do the whole you know, and do and

1747
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 2: do all timers. So when we said Brady, I say Kobe,

1748
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: You said, Bill Russell.

1749
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 7: Being me, yes, yes, I said, I stick with Lebron,

1750
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 7: said Lebron.

1751
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:28,839
Speaker 6: Very interesting, And I could.

1752
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 5: See one of the greatest of all time, doesn't he.

1753
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 6: Right, He's got elements.

1754
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 3: No, the great. I think you're right about you know, Lebron.

1755
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 2: I could see that the loss has got finals losses

1756
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: on his resume. He's got, you know, incredible longevity and

1757
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 2: unmatched success, you know in cleaning, incredible stuff. I just

1758
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 2: think personality wise, he matches up with Brady. I mean,

1759
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 2: he matches up with Cobb.

1760
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 5: I've got I got for you that you got.

1761
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 4: So you have me thinking Brady, which made me think,

1762
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 4: all right, this is only this is based solely on

1763
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 4: one year. Okay, so I'm basing this on one year,

1764
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 4: but follow me on this one. I got Victor Webman

1765
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 4: Yama rookie year. Huge expectations started off slow. By the

1766
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 4: end of the year, you were certain he was going

1767
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 4: to be an absolute superstar, could take over the league.

1768
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 4: That reminds me of the rookie year of Peyton Manning.

1769
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 4: So I'm going Victor Weman Yama to Peyton Manning. Turn

1770
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 4: off rookie year number one overall.

1771
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 6: Pick.

1772
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, his first like seven or eight games were terrible,

1773
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 7: but he's towards the end of his rookie year.

1774
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 5: You're right, take a second click.

1775
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a phenomena in person. It's great for one year,

1776
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 2: it's genius. I had one. I had one for Manning too,

1777
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 2: Julius Irving.

1778
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 11: Oh okay, oh like a great like just you know,

1779
01:24:54,520 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 11: great player, ambassadord whole thing, but didn't win as an

1780
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 11: enough that he should have.

1781
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely a lot of missing rings there.

1782
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that's interesting because you associate him as one

1783
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 4: of the best of all time. You can't tell the

1784
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,839
Speaker 4: story of the sport without him. You everybody that plays

1785
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 4: it is influenced by him. But it wasn't as many

1786
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 4: championships as you think, Like, so, yeah, I actually liked

1787
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 4: that comp a lot.

1788
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 3: How about Marino and Barkley.

1789
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 4: Well, that had no no champs, no chips.

1790
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 3: Greatness too, right or no?

1791
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 7: Or yeah, you know I was thinking Marino and Barkley

1792
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 7: or Marino and Malone potentially. Yeah, and that gets into

1793
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 7: a debate who do you think was better between Chuck

1794
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 7: and Karl Malone?

1795
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 6: And you can probably debate that to the cows coo moment.

1796
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1797
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, just from a longevity standpoint too. Now, I think

1798
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 7: Dan only played eleven and twelve years. I say, only

1799
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 7: that's that's a healthy career. So he played nineteen years either.

1800
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 7: Malone played until his legs fell off.

1801
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 3: And to steal, Yeah, steal chips.

1802
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was ring chasing towards the end.

1803
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 2: You have both of you, guys, Malona Barkley, Barkley's but.

1804
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 6: It's probably not fair.

1805
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 7: But because he was so much shorter but did just

1806
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,759
Speaker 7: as much damage, I probably give the edge to Barkley.

1807
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:26,480
Speaker 6: But Malone wast spectacular.

1808
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 7: He was because because Charles Barkley was just so short

1809
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 7: and still so dominant, I think I give him the edge.

1810
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: And he was more of a stretch right, like he

1811
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: he could handle the ball a little bit, like he

1812
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 2: would go coach to coach.

1813
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 3: And he would shoot threes.

1814
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 6: Well he shot a lot of threes. He didn't make

1815
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 6: a lot, but.

1816
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah, he was definitely more more skilled from

1817
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,560
Speaker 7: that standpoint.

1818
01:26:53,680 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Patrick, Who's that's a big way, big guys,

1819
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 4: a sort of an antiquated way to play the game.

1820
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 4: Didn't get the championship, but we all know the dominance

1821
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 4: household name absolutely associated with an entire era of the sport,

1822
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 4: meant to a popular franchise like who is the who

1823
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 4: is the Patrick Ewing of the other?

1824
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome, that's fabulous.

1825
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 4: Well you contemplate. I'll give you another weird comp. All right,

1826
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 4: this is not a quarterback comp. All right, but I've

1827
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 4: given you a weird comp. Okay, when I think super

1828
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,919
Speaker 4: Bowls that like, I'm surprised every time they're not a quarterback.

1829
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 4: But like when you think of a random player and

1830
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 4: not random, he's a Hall of famer that has.

1831
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 5: Way more super Bowls than any of us think.

1832
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 4: That's Charles Haley, who is an important part of five

1833
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 4: different super Bowl wins. So that's a Robert Dorry like

1834
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 4: it just you know, on different teams winning all over

1835
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 4: the place.

1836
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, an important.

1837
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 4: Part of those big championship moments. Like, couldn't have done

1838
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 4: it without him some times. Forget how many rings he has.

1839
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 4: I got Charles Haley his big chop up.

1840
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 6: I'd throw Bill Romanowski in that mix too.

1841
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 5: Oh okay, I like that.

1842
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 6: A lot of rings, different teams, yeah, dog and all

1843
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 6: those teams.

1844
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's very good.

1845
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 6: How about Drew Bledsoe for uh for Patrick Ewing?

1846
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: I keep when you said that, Oh my god, I

1847
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 2: full bloodso too.

1848
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 7: Really good player, put up some really good stats. Now

1849
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 7: he won a championship as a backup. But you know,

1850
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 7: so I don't know if you can but Yeah, I

1851
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 7: think that's kind of my comp for Patrick Ewing.

1852
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 3: That's funny, you said, Blodsoe. I felt the same thing.

1853
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 2: The two names that came to my mind right away

1854
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 2: were Bloodsoe and Sims.

1855
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 3: Phil Simms.

1856
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 5: Oh, phil Simms, that's good.

1857
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 6: Now, Well, for Sims has going for him?

1858
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 7: Is that he you know, now Grant he wasn't a

1859
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 7: starter for the full season, but started that Super Bowl

1860
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 7: and still has one of the best stat lines in

1861
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 7: Super Bowl history.

1862
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Ewing never got there.

1863
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 7: If anything, the Ewing theory was born out of the

1864
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 7: fact that the Knicks made it to the NBA Finals

1865
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 7: in a year that he got hurt.

1866
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, he wasn't even playing, you know.

1867
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 4: But the crazy thing is, like this comes back to

1868
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 4: where part of this all originated from. Like I could

1869
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 4: see Josh Allen end up being Patrick Ewing just an

1870
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 4: absolutely incredible player for a franchise, gave everything he had

1871
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 4: and the franchise will always love him, remember him treasure

1872
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,799
Speaker 4: and never even gets to the Super Bowl like pinnacle

1873
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 4: that he wants simply because he is in.

1874
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 5: The wrong conference at the wrong time.

1875
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 7: Now, one thing I'll say, in Anthony, you covered the

1876
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 7: Knicks for years so you have a you know, a

1877
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 7: closer eye on this than I did, but the perception

1878
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 7: of you and yes, he always came up small when

1879
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 7: it mattered most and big games you couldn't count with. Yeah,

1880
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 7: I don't know if necessarily, and there's still a ways

1881
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 7: to go for Josh Allen, I don't know if that

1882
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 7: narrative necessarily exists for you.

1883
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. It's interesting. I got one for you

1884
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 2: iverson Michael Vick.

1885
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 5: Chef's kiss. Yeah, I mean, well done.

1886
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 4: That that is such a perfect camp in the fact

1887
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 4: that it was all about flash and athleticism right like,

1888
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 4: and also it was about a city that identified with

1889
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 4: the player in a way that was so true and

1890
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 4: connective and authentic, magical. It still exists that it will

1891
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 4: always exist like that. Yeah, that's a that's a great

1892
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 4: comp by you spot.

1893
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 2: On It fascinating that they're from the same region, They're

1894
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 2: from the same Virginia beach.

1895
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 6: Crazy. Yeah.

1896
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 4: So so for all this conversation, does that mean Michael Jordan,

1897
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 4: there's really Joe Montana never lost the Super Bowl?

1898
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of would have been my thought.

1899
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 7: You're right, because for all the top people talk greatest

1900
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 7: of all time and there's Mahomes and there's and obviously

1901
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 7: they're in the conversation. I still think Joe Montana has

1902
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 7: you know, holds a stake in there somewhere.

1903
01:30:55,240 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 6: Who's Mahomes. Who's Mahomes? Man?

1904
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: That's because you're right, You're you're right. Probably my tad

1905
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 2: is your But who.

1906
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 5: Mahomes is Kobe to me?

1907
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 4: Like Mahomes is Kobe to me, Like you can love

1908
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 4: him when he's off the court and he can sell

1909
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 4: you anything, and when he's on the court, he's got

1910
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 4: killer instinct. Everybody has some fine line of respect or

1911
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,640
Speaker 4: fear to him. No matter who is around him, he

1912
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 4: can still absolutely annihilate you at any point. And what

1913
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 4: you don't want to do is get anywhere near the

1914
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 4: fourth quarter of a close game. If you do against him,

1915
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 4: you will lose. Like so to me, there's there's you know,

1916
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 4: elements to Malmes.

1917
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 7: To me, Mahomes is more Steph because Steph is kind

1918
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 7: of like the aw shucks affable on you know, whatever,

1919
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 7: you know, corny off the court.

1920
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 6: But he won't kill you, especially when it matters.

1921
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 7: Most just absolute daggers between the lines.

1922
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 6: So I think I think Mahomes and Curius gets kind

1923
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 6: of the comp for me.

1924
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 3: That's good.

1925
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 2: It's good because you what's funny about about Curry, You know,

1926
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,560
Speaker 2: like we at least eye gloss of like I always

1927
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 2: in my head it's Jordan Lebron Kobe, right, and then

1928
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 2: it's the great like magic magic Bird those dudes. Then,

1929
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 2: but you forget about Steph because Steph needs to be

1930
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 2: in that same conversation with those guys.

1931
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 7: I mean, he's revolutionized the way the NBA's playing. Yeah,

1932
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:30,520
Speaker 7: he really has.

1933
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1934
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 5: I like that.

1935
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 4: That's a good job by you. Figure I wouldn't have

1936
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 4: thought of it, Like who's the kd Then, like if

1937
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 4: we think of a mercenary that has just been like

1938
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go here win a super Bowl, and then

1939
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go here win a super Bowl. But it's

1940
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 4: also one of the best of all time. I mean

1941
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 4: that that's wow. That's tough. I mean when you talk

1942
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 4: about some of the aspects have played for several teams

1943
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 4: and you talk about some of the aspects of absolute.

1944
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 5: Dominance, it makes me think of Randy Moss.

1945
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 7: But I think oh Dion Dion went to San Francisco

1946
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 7: for one year, won a championship, said he was going

1947
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 7: to do it and then left they went to Dallas

1948
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 7: in one Yeah.

1949
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good.

1950
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 4: And and also like just an athletic freak that did

1951
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 4: things that nobody could could even figure out the way

1952
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 4: to handle.

1953
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 6: To just roll out of bed and just and dominate you.

1954
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1955
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 7: I like from the vagabond standpoint of the comparison of

1956
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:28,719
Speaker 7: the two, I would say, Katie and Dion, all.

1957
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:29,679
Speaker 6: Right, who is.

1958
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 3: Brett Farv?

1959
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 5: Brett Farv? So we're talking about breaking down here.

1960
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 4: We're talking about somebody that you know, sort of marches

1961
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 4: the beat of his own drummer in the way.

1962
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 2: He right for about this too great, forget all the

1963
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 2: nonsense off the field.

1964
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 6: As a player, We're talking about the player.

1965
01:33:54,439 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 2: As a player. I always thought he was icarous. Yeah,

1966
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 2: like he he was so great, but he never he

1967
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:07,759
Speaker 2: would always fly too.

1968
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 3: Close to the sun.

1969
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 7: Well see, And I had an up close and personal

1970
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 7: look at Kobe, and at times I felt that about him.

1971
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 6: Oh wow, I felt there are.

1972
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 7: Times, as phenomenal of an athlete as he was, and

1973
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:19,600
Speaker 7: as great of a player as he was, sometimes he

1974
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 7: couldn't get out of his own way. And as great

1975
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 7: as he was, and he won five championships, I feel

1976
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 7: like there were some there I left on the table

1977
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 7: because especially in those years right after Shaq left, he

1978
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 7: was just doing way too much and trying to do

1979
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 7: too much and trying to prove too much. He's like,

1980
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 7: I have the physical ability. I can make this fade

1981
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 7: away with four guys in my face. But should I

1982
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 7: really shoot that Britain Farmers. I can squeeze his ball

1983
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 7: between three defensive backs, but I probably shouldn't, but I'm

1984
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 7: gonna try it anyway.

1985
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 4: Is there is there not a little bit of Reggie

1986
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 4: Miller aspect to that too, though, Like just see, I

1987
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 4: won't put this all on my back. I'm gonna figure

1988
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 4: out a way to win this game. Like you know,

1989
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 4: it's it's there is with the.

1990
01:34:55,760 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 5: Swag and the talk and all of those things. You know, there's.

1991
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 6: I like that Reggie.

1992
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 4: My buddy Jay timed in and said, by the way,

1993
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 4: text me, he said, love, this discussion is Ewing. Jim

1994
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 4: Kelly is Patrick Ewing Jim Kelly, I mean Jim Kelly,

1995
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:19,520
Speaker 4: but like Patrick Ewing Jim Kelly, like you know, dominant.

1996
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 3: I mean that's really good.

1997
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 5: Super close.

1998
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 4: We we almost forget that there wasn't a championship in

1999
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 4: there because of the way we talk about those that era.

2000
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 4: I mean ewing to Jim Kelly, that's that's a pretty.

2001
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 11: Good comp How about Eli and Wade?

2002
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:46,600
Speaker 6: Wow? The mark the issue there is like Eli was

2003
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 6: such an average rate. Yeah, Wade is Wade?

2004
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 7: I think, I think, I don't think it's hyperbably to

2005
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 7: say he's one of the great shooting guards in the

2006
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 7: history of the sport. And the latter part of his

2007
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 7: prime gets covered up because he played with Lebron, but

2008
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 7: he was still an amazing, spectacular player at that point

2009
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 7: in time. I think Dwayn Wade's actually underrated and he's

2010
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 7: still a great player in a Hall of Famer.

2011
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 6: So I don't. I don't. I think I think ELI

2012
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 6: will be under selling Dwayne Wade.

2013
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 5: I agree with that.

2014
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 6: I also do Wait he is is he Roethlisberger?

2015
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 4: Hm?

2016
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 5: Maybe? Yeah?

2017
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 6: Because you know what as as.

2018
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 2: I mean, forget Ben off the field or whatever you

2019
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 2: feel about him.

2020
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,759
Speaker 7: He one, he's pretty accomplished and has really great stats,

2021
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 7: but people just he just kind of gets lost a lot.

2022
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:35,839
Speaker 6: Of times, and like d Wade gets lost right.

2023
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 4: And he's synonymous with the team he played for, just

2024
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 4: like d Wade. An NBA era like, yeah, yeah, you

2025
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 4: will never not think of Ben and the Steelers together.

2026
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 4: You will never not think of Dwayne Wade and the

2027
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 4: Heat together, right, Like that's just I I like that

2028
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 4: a lot.

2029
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 5: There was like a there's a bond between player and

2030
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 5: franchise there. I like that. I like that.

2031
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 6: Like he hasn't won a championship yet.

2032
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 7: Mark By like a better ELI comp and I still

2033
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:03,719
Speaker 7: think and he's a better basketball player than Eli quarterback overall,

2034
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 7: I think, but I would say, like Jimmy Butler, we

2035
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 7: were just talking earlier in the show about playoff Jimmy,

2036
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 7: and if he's healthy at the right time, you know

2037
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 7: what he can do. Eli Manning just you know, for

2038
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 7: whatever reason, in the postseason at times will just turn

2039
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 7: it on. But in the regular season you're like, you

2040
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 7: made that throw there?

2041
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 3: Really, yeah that's good, you know, yeah, that's good.

2042
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 6: I like that.

2043
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,799
Speaker 7: He was a perplexing player for the majority of his career,

2044
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 7: but in those two playoff runs, he was immaculate.

2045
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 5: Isn't that sort of kawhi ish?

2046
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 4: Also, like, yeah, you know miracle playoff run that you

2047
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 4: sit there and say, how the hell did that happen?

2048
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 6: Playing on one knee? Basically the entire run too remarkable.

2049
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 4: And then and the chef's kiss of the like the

2050
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 4: shot that never should have gone in kind of like

2051
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 4: the helmet catch, you know, like.

2052
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 6: Look at that, I like it.

2053
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 5: I like that.

2054
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 6: Very good.

2055
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 2: That's very good. That's good stuff. We got to quick

2056
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 2: time out. We'll come back.

2057
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,759
Speaker 5: We've stumbled on. This is quite interesting.

2058
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 6: Well, it was funny because.

2059
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 2: The whole thing started because I wanted to somehow Ben

2060
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 2: Tatum into dak right, hang it out right here Fox

2061
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:28,160
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2068
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 3: Boys.

2069
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 2: We've been having some fun with winds totals. What do

2070
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 2: you sit? We picked that conversation back up because when

2071
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 2: last we left, we got stuck on we're going to

2072
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 2: alphabetic order, and we got stuck.

2073
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,879
Speaker 6: On D's and particularly Dallas.

2074
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 2: If you remember last week we were doing the wind

2075
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 2: total and we just we did wound up doing twenty

2076
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:21,480
Speaker 2: five minutes on the Cowboys.

2077
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mommy and Daddy fought when we got to Dallas.

2078
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. It wasn't pleasant. The rest

2079
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 4: of the car ride was quiet. We just we did

2080
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,680
Speaker 4: not agree with it. Nobody was looking at each other,

2081
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 4: the radio wasn't all and everybody just sat in the

2082
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,719
Speaker 4: backseat wondering when the fight would end. That's what happened.

2083
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 4: So it's a good though. It's fine, you know, even

2084
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 4: the fellas fight sometimes.

2085
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 3: Oh that's great.

2086
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 2: That's a great analogy. The parents fighting, right, Like, you

2087
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 2: just know we've all experienced that.

2088
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,799
Speaker 6: And you're like, oh that was the worst.

2089
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 4: Take Its like, I'd rather my like my parents when

2090
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 4: I was a kid, would have just gotten it out

2091
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 4: of their system, just go at each other for a minute,

2092
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 4: get it done, rather than have that awkward thirty or forty.

2093
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 5: Five it silence, Yeah, silences.

2094
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and kids today don't even know, like because

2095
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 4: back then, like my parents smoked, back then, a lot

2096
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:19,640
Speaker 4: of people did, right, Like, so then you got a

2097
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 4: car full of smoke and it's quiet, and like nobody's

2098
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 4: rolling the window down. Everybody's just sitting in a smoke

2099
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 4: box getting angry at each other.

2100
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,560
Speaker 5: Come on, like, I just just get it out of

2101
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 5: your system. Guys.

2102
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 2: I know how nice is that they used to smoke

2103
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 2: in the car as I was thinking right away, just

2104
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 2: get done talking about like I was on a plane

2105
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 2: land thing and they would have it smoking section in

2106
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 2: the point Now is that the dumbest thing on the

2107
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 2: planet is that you're aiding me closed tube and you

2108
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 2: have one section be a smoking section, Like what does

2109
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 2: it so if the smoking section is the last five rows?

2110
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 2: What if I mean it's sixth throw right, and I'm

2111
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:06,600
Speaker 2: like I don't want smoke, but yet behind me is

2112
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 2: all the smoke. I mean, how insane did that feel?

2113
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 5: Oh?

2114
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,799
Speaker 4: I got well, And at some point I still believe

2115
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 4: someday Vegas will wake up and casinos will be non

2116
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 4: smoking and in ten years everybody will look back and say, wait,

2117
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 4: you just let everybody sit here at the tables for

2118
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 4: hours like puffing cigarettes in each other's faces, Like, yes,

2119
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 4: it is absolutely insane to me.

2120
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 2: It's nuts, Like did your mom? Did your mom smoke

2121
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 2: at all? My mom did never once? You know, wasn't

2122
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 2: ner thing?

2123
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Which nuts?

2124
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 2: I used to so one of my first jobs was

2125
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 2: at Midway Airlines and I was a ramp guy. I

2126
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 2: would I would unload the h the aircraft, the baggage

2127
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 2: right and worked, yeah, right, and then and order and

2128
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 2: then we'd have to go in and clean the plane

2129
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 2: and I they hate it because they had stash trash

2130
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 2: and you'd got the empty clean the ash trays. Oh,

2131
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:13,560
Speaker 2: it was horrible, between and cigarettes.

2132
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 3: It was like the worst.

2133
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 7: I'm sure you earned your You're in one nickel per

2134
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 7: hour for doing that job too.

2135
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, was that an H joke that figured

2136
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 4: you put it?

2137
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 5: Was that a little H joke? No?

2138
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 6: I mean yes and no.

2139
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 7: Just the amount of work that goes into doing that

2140
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 7: sort of thing and people think it's a pretty menial job,

2141
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 7: but you get paid nothing and it's pretty disgusting.

2142
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's disgusting.

2143
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 6: So yes and no, Yes, I was in Uh, I

2144
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 6: was in college. That was my it was my job.

2145
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 5: Uh.

2146
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:53,840
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the winds totals. You ready,

2147
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:59,560
Speaker 2: we went through the Cowboys. Now let's go Denver. Denver's

2148
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 2: winds five and a half. I like I clearly I

2149
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 2: like the over, but I'm curious where you guys stand.

2150
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 4: I think five and a half feels just about right

2151
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 4: for the Broncos, who I think feel like a five

2152
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 4: or six win team if you just asked me how

2153
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 4: to said five or six win team. So the question

2154
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 4: is where do they get those five wins this year? Because,

2155
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 4: as we did last time, I've got their schedule in

2156
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 4: front of me. I'm gonna presume, even though they haven't

2157
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 4: beaten the Raiders in eighty seven thousand years, I'm presumed

2158
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 4: that they can get a split this year with the Raiders.

2159
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna presume that they can beat the Panthers. Outside

2160
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 4: of that, there's not a lot on their schedule that

2161
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 4: feels like a given win. I could honestly see the

2162
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 4: Broncos finishing I'll take the under on it.

2163
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 5: I'll take the under. I could see them going four,

2164
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 5: four and thirteen.

2165
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, just kind of based on how the schedule shakes out.

2166
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 7: And I know it's not gonna end up this way.

2167
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 7: It never does, but just I mean, that's a pretty

2168
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 7: pretty tough stretch for them, pretty tough schedule. So I'm

2169
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 7: gonna take the under. At best they get five wins

2170
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 7: based on what I'm looking at now, just.

2171
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:00,679
Speaker 5: Want a reference.

2172
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,879
Speaker 4: They have the Seahawks, the Steelers, the Buccaneers, the Jets,

2173
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 4: the Chargers, the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Falcons, the Browns,

2174
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 4: the Colts, the Bengals.

2175
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 5: Like they've got a juggernaut of a schedule.

2176
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:17,600
Speaker 2: Humm, I don't know. Maybe it's the Peyton thing. Like

2177
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, is he gonna is he gonna go five in?

2178
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 2: And you know twelve?

2179
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 5: God, that feels weird. That just feels weird.

2180
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 6: You're right, he usually makes something add of nothing.

2181
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 7: And he does have a quarterback who I do think

2182
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,679
Speaker 7: fits what he wants to do than Russell Wilson did.

2183
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 2: But like he is and like I'm with you, and

2184
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 2: then like the schedule, you guys are right on. If

2185
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 2: there's something about him though that I just I would

2186
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 2: go over. Uh, I go over on this one too.

2187
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 2: I think this one's light. Lions ten and a half.

2188
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 5: Oh, that feels way light to me.

2189
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 4: I'm surpris given the popularity of the team, I am

2190
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 4: surprised that that's not higher.

2191
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 5: I hammered it.

2192
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 4: I don't even need to look at the schedule for

2193
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 4: that one and hammer the over on it. Yeah, I mean,

2194
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 4: that's this is a this is great football team this

2195
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 4: year I don't care about the past to the Lions.

2196
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 4: This is a great franchise, time, right time for this franchise,

2197
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 4: right now. This is a great team. I think that

2198
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 4: they have a real shot at being the number one

2199
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 4: overall seed in the NFC. Yeah, I take the over

2200
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 4: all day on that.

2201
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 7: And their schedule is not very difficult just taking a

2202
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 7: look at it. You know, their division I think is

2203
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 7: going to be very solid. I think Chicago's going to

2204
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 7: be improved and Green Bay's not going anywhere. They're going

2205
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 7: to improve on what they did last year too as

2206
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 7: a playoff team. But yeah, I take the over. I

2207
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 7: feel confident in saying that that the Lions get eleven

2208
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 7: twelve wins this year.

2209
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 2: All right, we all agree there, let's stay in that

2210
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 2: division and go Packers, the Green Bay Packers nine and

2211
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:56,560
Speaker 2: a half.

2212
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 6: I go over.

2213
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:00,839
Speaker 2: I Mean, I know Walts has got to come somewhere

2214
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 2: in the division, but I love that division and.

2215
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 6: I think the Packers are a ten win team. I mean,

2216
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 6: what the.

2217
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 2: Weapons I buy Jordan Love, I mean, I'd love over.

2218
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take the under on this.

2219
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 6: Wow.

2220
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:18,600
Speaker 4: But and look, I'm not taking the under confidently. But

2221
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 4: here's the one thing that has really been on my

2222
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 4: mind about Jordan Love for the last month, which is

2223
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 4: amazing that I've been sitting here thinking about Jordan Love.

2224
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 4: That shows you how football starved we are. We've taken

2225
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 4: essentially half of a season of really good football, and

2226
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 4: just let that answer every question on Jordan Love. I

2227
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 4: can't get out of my head how bad he was

2228
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,120
Speaker 4: in some of those games early on, particularly the Raiders

2229
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 4: Monday Night game.

2230
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 5: He was awful, right like, this was just the worst.

2231
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,600
Speaker 4: Of Jordan Love. And I know it all seemed to

2232
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 4: click for him. But now you've had defensive coordinators in

2233
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 4: that division, they've had.

2234
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 5: All summer to just sit there all day.

2235
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 4: Every day and think, think about how to stop what

2236
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 4: he does, take a look at that tape, figure out

2237
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 4: how to get ahead of it. I think that there

2238
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 4: still needs to be some sort of counter response from

2239
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 4: jord and Love. So I'm wondering if he doesn't take

2240
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 4: a little step back in this year, and if he does,

2241
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 4: then that gets me to the under on that.

2242
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, and there could be a bit of a regression.

2243
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 7: But I also think that they his skill level, his

2244
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 7: skill position guys, namely a guy like Josh Jacobs, So

2245
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 7: we know, well can really add some punch to their

2246
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 7: run game, They're going to be better defensively. So I

2247
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 7: just think as a team, even if Jordan Love individually

2248
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 7: takes a half.

2249
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 6: Step back, I think they're good enough. So I think

2250
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 6: I'll take the over.

2251
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 3: So let's go.

2252
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 2: Let's go back to let's go to the Love conversation

2253
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 2: a little bit. What do you think he regressed? Like,

2254
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 2: what's your your kind of a sessment of his regression.

2255
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 4: I think what happened is he started to get really

2256
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 4: hot and they started to make every throw that you

2257
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 4: ever want him to make. But earlier in the season,

2258
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 4: when he was still knocking off the US, he just

2259
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 4: made bad decisions.

2260
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 5: Now, part of this is, okay, he just figured it out.

2261
01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 4: I want to give him credit for that, But I

2262
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 4: also think there's a part of it to me that's like,

2263
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 4: did he get it figured out or did.

2264
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 5: He just go on a hot streak?

2265
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,560
Speaker 4: And that's what I just don't I don't feel confident

2266
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 4: with that answer yet. And as good as things were

2267
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 4: for him last year, and they absolutely were, it was

2268
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 4: a killer year for him on touchdown to interception ratio.

2269
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 5: It was a killer year for him.

2270
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 4: By the end of the year, it's still like when

2271
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 4: he played a great San Francisco defense twenty one to

2272
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 4: thirty four, I pulled it back cup one hundred and

2273
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 4: ninety four yards like it was okay, that's okay, you know,

2274
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 4: like there is some element to me of I feel

2275
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:33,679
Speaker 4: like we've blown it all up a little bit too much.

2276
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 4: So if he comes back a little bit, if there's

2277
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 4: a few more picks, if the completion percentage goes back down,

2278
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 4: because you know, I'm looking back at the year, and

2279
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 4: if you look in the last gosh, the last after

2280
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh game, so after mid November, he had a

2281
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 4: sixty seven percent or higher completion percentage for the rest

2282
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 4: of the season. But before then, in the first one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

2283
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:58,759
Speaker 4: ten games, eight of those it was under fifty five percent.

2284
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 4: So like, to me, the accuracy issue is still there.

2285
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 4: So I need to see that that's solved for a

2286
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 4: full season before I could jump on board.

2287
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, could I say that the receivers you also young, right,

2288
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 2: and they all came into their own right, so you know,

2289
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 2: I think you hit the ground running like they do.

2290
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:22,640
Speaker 2: Have a stable of targets, tight ends included.

2291
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 7: You know, and say he didn't turn a corner and act,

2292
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:26,919
Speaker 7: you know, figure it out now. I know he struggled

2293
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 7: against you know, the forty nine ers, but I mean,

2294
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 7: that's that's one of the best. You have said it yourself,

2295
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 7: one of the best defenses in the entire league in

2296
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 7: a playoff game, playoff atmosphere. You know that that that

2297
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 7: could be rough slating for anybody. And who's to say

2298
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 7: he doesn't learn from that and grow from that and

2299
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 7: become better.

2300
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:42,600
Speaker 6: There's the element of adjusting to the adjusters.

2301
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 4: You know, in the last few weeks of the season

2302
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 4: he took on. Chicago had a very good defense at

2303
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 4: the end of the year last year. But then before

2304
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 4: that it was Minnesota who was okay defensively, Carolina who

2305
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,759
Speaker 4: was terrible, Tampa Bay who was fine defensively, the Giants

2306
01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:00,599
Speaker 4: who are terrible. You know, like that, that little streak

2307
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 4: for him, I think the measure of at least looking

2308
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 4: the opponents.

2309
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 5: And by the way, they lost.

2310
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 4: Two of those games, they lost to the Giants, they

2311
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 4: lost to Tampa Bay. So he threw ten of his

2312
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:14,759
Speaker 4: eleven interceptions were thrown before we got to mid November.

2313
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 4: He only threw one after mid November. So I just

2314
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:19,559
Speaker 4: feel like, you look at all of that together, it's like, man,

2315
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 4: how much of that is a hot streak? How much

2316
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 4: of that is actually replicable, replicatable either way?

2317
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 2: All right, how about this question all of that going

2318
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 2: into the year you're the Eagles, would you rather have

2319
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 2: Love or Hurts?

2320
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 4: Going into the year, I'd rather have Hurts. Wouldn't you

2321
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,599
Speaker 4: rather have Jalen Hurts right now than Jordan Love. Look,

2322
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 4: I think there's more proof of concept. Doesn't that matter?

2323
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 3: He also he also Jalen also regrests last year.

2324
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did. He did. So this is like, if I'm.

2325
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 2: Crazy, it's a great conversation. Fake, You're not the biggest

2326
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 2: Hurts guy.

2327
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 6: Uh No, I like Jalen Hurts.

2328
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,800
Speaker 7: I'm generally not a fan of someone you have to,

2329
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 7: you know, cater a special sort of offense to their

2330
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 7: individual skills.

2331
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 6: I just you don't have a lot of margin there.

2332
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

2333
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 7: From that standpoint, I will take Love because I just

2334
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 7: trust him more in a classic drop back game. But

2335
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 7: when Jalen is healthy and when he's on, he's spectacular

2336
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 7: and fits what they do. But I think he's a

2337
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 7: good example of like the Love situation of what fits

2338
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 7: is talking about the fact that he burst onto the

2339
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 7: scene a couple of years ago got them to the

2340
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,679
Speaker 7: Super Bowl. Then last season there was a regression there

2341
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 7: didn't it didn't have the same performance. Uh, and that

2342
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 7: certainly could happen with Jordan Love. UH. I would probably

2343
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 7: take Jordan Love just because I feel like I can

2344
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:42,759
Speaker 7: do more. I think the play more of a playbook

2345
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 7: is open with him than it is with Jalen Hurts,

2346
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,320
Speaker 7: who has this very specific skill set that you need

2347
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:50,839
Speaker 7: to cater to for the team to be able to succeed.

2348
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 7: So for that standpoint, I will take Jordan Love. But

2349
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 7: it doesn't mean I don't think Jalen Hurts is a

2350
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 7: good player, and then I wouldn't take him as my quarterback.

2351
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 4: I just feel like, look, if I could build the

2352
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 4: utopian football society, and I know this will never happen.

2353
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:06,560
Speaker 4: I wish we would judge quarterbacks in three year increments.

2354
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 4: So my mind year one is the quarterback is trying

2355
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 4: to figure it out, and then the league's trying to

2356
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 4: figure the quarterback out, so you'll have some ups and.

2357
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 5: Downs year two. I do believe that most quarterbacks.

2358
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:20,280
Speaker 4: Are either going to take a little leap or they're

2359
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 4: going to take a big step back. And in my

2360
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:25,120
Speaker 4: mind it makes sense because again, these coordinators are spent

2361
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 4: all offseason now getting ready for.

2362
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 5: What they do.

2363
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 4: So year three really becomes the prove it year of

2364
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:32,719
Speaker 4: Here's who I am, Here's how I can run an offense.

2365
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 4: I've now adjusted to your adjustments. That's the chess match.

2366
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 4: I love in quarterback plays. So I don't think even

2367
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 4: if Jordan Love takes a step back, to be clear,

2368
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 4: I don't think that means that he sucks.

2369
01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 5: I don't think that that means he can't have a future.

2370
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 4: I just think that there is this ebb and flow,

2371
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 4: the roller coaster ride involves a step back in year two.

2372
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 4: I think Jalen Hurts is going to take a little

2373
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:53,679
Speaker 4: step forward this year. I think it'll be better this year.

2374
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 2: Well, listen, he needs to be a Brown Devonte Smith

2375
01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 2: and say Kwon Barkley and Dallas Got.

2376
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, let's go, bro, There's no excuses

2377
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 6: for him not to.

2378
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:05,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean you did lose one of the

2379
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:07,320
Speaker 7: greatest sinners in the history of the sports, so that

2380
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 7: doesn't help.

2381
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 2: But right, but he's got, he's and their their all

2382
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 2: line still good, so you know, I feel that way too.

2383
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 3: Fits.

2384
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 2: I think he'll be I think he'll be good. But

2385
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 2: I think the love things is a very interesting conversation.

2386
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I love love. Actually, future standpoint even happen step

2387
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 7: back this year. I think I think they found something

2388
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:26,680
Speaker 7: I love.

2389
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like to. I'm a buyer.

2390
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:30,719
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Speaker 6: Fellas, I am.

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Speaker 4: I'm risk averse sitting on the sidelines waiting for all

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Speaker 4: of this to play out, and then I will have

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, but if we know, we could be

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Speaker 2: fool hardy go in and lose our shirt while you

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Speaker 2: have a shirt.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's wrong with a little more conservative portfolio. I'm

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Speaker 7: all right, I'm okay with that. Yeah, it works sometimes.

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Speaker 7: Slow and steady, that's it, man, that wins the race.

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Speaker 7: Fellas hanging Fox Sports Radio. All right, welcome back, Fellas

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Speaker 7: from the Tairaq dot Com.

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Speaker 6: Studios NFL win totals. Going through it was really excuse to.

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01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 2: Talk about every team we.

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01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:11,560
Speaker 3: Have now reached the h's.

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01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 2: There's only one of them and not for the life

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01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 2: of me, guys, I don't get this at all. The Euston,

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01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:25,640
Speaker 2: Texas Wind total is nine and a half.

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01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,559
Speaker 3: How is that not a stone over?

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01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 4: Is there some lack of belief that it can be replicated,

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01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 4: because I just I don't see it. I mean, even

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01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 4: looking they open the season at the Colts, then they

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01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,959
Speaker 4: have the Bears, the Vikings, the Jags, the Bills, the Patriots,

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01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 4: the Packers. Like, there's a lot of wins on this schedule.

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01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 4: I number yet, oh that numberley, they certainly have.

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01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 5: I mean, there's gonna be some difficulties.

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01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 4: They have to play the Lions, they have to play

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01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 4: in Dallas, they have to play the Dolphins, the Chiefs,

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01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 4: so the Ravens. They have some tough games. But you

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01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 4: said that number was nine and a half. Yeah, I

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01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 4: think it's a disaster if they don't get to ten

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01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 4: wins this year.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, why Yeah, Although there's a part of me

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01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 7: that feels, we were talking to regression last segment that

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01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 7: they came on so fast, so great last season with

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01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 7: zero expectations. Do you wonder if there's a little bit

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01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,520
Speaker 7: of a come down. They're not sneaking up on anybody

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01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 7: this year. They expect to be the class of the

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01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 7: AFC South. So it doesn't mean they won't win nine

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01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 7: games or I won't be a postseason to make the postseason,

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01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 7: but they won't come out and win eleven games or

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01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 7: twelve games like some people might expect that progression might.

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01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 6: Not be linear.

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01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 7: They might be good, but then they might not be

2435
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 7: as good as they were last year because they're not

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01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 7: sneaking up on people.

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01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could see part of that.

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01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 4: I also think, because you're right, I don't want to

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01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 4: talk about both sides in my mouth, and I definitely

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01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 4: just said regression. I just think what we saw last

2441
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 4: year was so good that it's hard for me to

2442
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 4: find a path that doesn't have them. It would feel

2443
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 4: like such a disappointment if they weren't equally as dominant this.

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01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 2: Year, especially when they they tweaked the roster. I mean, yeah,

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01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 2: he digs like, I mean, geez, they're good. I mean,

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01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm you know, we talked about quarterbacks

2447
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 2: and regression at all, but we all believe, you know,

2448
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 2: we all believe in this one.

2449
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 3: Like that's it. He was sensatial.

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01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 2: Now you know, give him some you know, give him

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01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 2: some tad of regression and he's still very good.

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01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2453
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 4: Extremely, if you're if you're the Texans right now, you

2454
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 4: believe you have a top five quarterback in the AFC

2455
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 4: for the next fifteen years. So I think regression is

2456
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:47,879
Speaker 4: something when you've been up and down, that you expect.

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01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 4: I think this CJ Stroud, what he showed us last

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01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 4: year we talked about Peyton's early struggles. What he showed

2459
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 4: us by the end of the year was Peyton Manning esque, right,

2460
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 4: So I don't I think he continues on his trajectory.

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01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 4: I'm I'm exact emptying him from the very struggles I

2462
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 4: just said, your quarterbacks, app I'm a hypocrite.

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01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 2: A hypocrite, No, it's you see you might reserve. It's

2464
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:11,920
Speaker 2: all right, yeah, you're supposed to. I always hate that

2465
01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 2: word hypocrite because if you if you see something and

2466
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 2: you learn something, then you know or you want to

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01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 2: apply it.

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01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 6: So it's everything situation. The same rules don't apply to everyone.

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01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 7: There's there's exactly nuance and circumstances that you know change

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01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 7: your outlook. I'm taking the under, by the way, under,

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01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 7: I'm taking the regression.

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01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 6: Wow, man, all right, all.

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01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 2: Right, get him down. Put figure down for the under.

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01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 2: Oh man, I just don't see it. Colts eight and

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01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:44,520
Speaker 2: a half, it's a number, right, there.

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01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 5: His thing.

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01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 4: I don't know that there are many teams that I

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01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 4: have more of a who the hell knows than I do.

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01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 5: With the Colts.

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Speaker 4: Like Anthony Richardson was was he won a lot of

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01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 4: games when he was healthy for those few games he

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01:57:57,360 --> 01:58:00,000
Speaker 4: was healthy. But like as I've said before, the whole

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01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 4: whole thing on Ar coming out of the draft was

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01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 4: that he needed reps. He got none of those last year,

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01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 4: So like, who is he in this offense?

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01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 5: We still don't even know any of that.

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01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 4: So I would love to put it all together and

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01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 4: make the Colts a really good team.

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01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 5: I just man, I have no idea.

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01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 4: If I was putting my actual cash on it, I

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01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 4: wouldn't even be comfortable giving them five.

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01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 5: Dollars because they're gonna just take it from me. I

2493
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:20,960
Speaker 5: have no idea.

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01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 4: If I have to make a choice right now, I'm

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01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 4: gonna take the under because the rest of the AFC

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01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:28,120
Speaker 4: is so good, some of these teams have to lose games.

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01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 4: But I mean, but I could also see myself feeling

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01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 4: like an ass when Anthony Richardson is just crushing it

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01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:36,120
Speaker 4: and I'm sitting here and they've won thirteen games. I

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01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 4: have no idea shane'son your spot's good work. Yeah, you're

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01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:42,400
Speaker 4: spot on. I can't. I can't tell you what's going

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01:58:42,440 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 4: to happen there. I can fake. Do you have any

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01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 4: kind of read on this?

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01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 5: Oh?

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01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 6: Do I have a read?

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01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 4: No?

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01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 7: But a part of the Houston regression is I think

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01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 7: Indianapolis takes a slight step forward. So I'm actually taking

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01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 7: the over for Indy.

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01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 3: Okay, how do you read Richardson?

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01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 6: I liked what I saw in the small sample size

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Speaker 6: last season.

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01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 7: No, he didn't have all the physical reps, but he

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01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 7: definitely took some mental reps last year, and I do

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01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:09,919
Speaker 7: think he fits the offense. Obviously, you saw the success

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01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 7: the Eagles had, so it's not like as if it

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01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 7: can't work. I love a lot too, the defensive end

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01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 7: that they took in the first round. I think if

2519
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,720
Speaker 7: they added to their defense. So I don't think the team.

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01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 7: I don't think the roster is bad at all, so

2521
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 7: they hung in. It's a lot of games last year.

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01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 7: I think they take a minor step forward, and a

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01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 7: minor step forward is them.

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01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 6: You know, eight and a half. I can see him

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01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 6: winning nine games. I can see it all.

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01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 2: Right, let's go Jacksonville eight and a half man.

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01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 6: This is a tough one.

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01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 4: Jacksonville is supposed to be better than that. They're just

2529
01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 4: supposed to be better than that. And I am dumbfounded

2530
01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 4: that Trevor Lawrence is not broken out. But then I

2531
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:57,200
Speaker 4: look at their schedule. They start at Miami, then they

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01:59:57,200 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 4: have Cleveland, then they go at Buffalo than they have

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01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 4: at the xcents like the jackson could start oh to

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02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:05,840
Speaker 4: four easily. I'll take the under on it.

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02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 6: I don't same under.

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Speaker 7: I'm underwhelmed with Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, I don't

2537
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 7: know if it gets a lot better.

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02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I listen.

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02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:17,280
Speaker 6: I feel you.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 2: I feel you on that. I wonder about the same thing.

2542
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 2: And I think this is it for Doug Peterson.

2543
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 6: It's either Doug or Trevor or both.

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Speaker 3: He's a number.

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Speaker 6: Right after we get off the air. We've been all

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Speaker 6: over the place this morning.

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Speaker 2: A lot of NBA Finals stuff going over Dallas Boston,

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02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:52,839
Speaker 2: which actually is I think great for the NBA because

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02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 2: it's such a great matchup. This one should get a

2569
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:02,280
Speaker 2: lot of buzz, should do well ratings wise. What is it, Fellas,

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Speaker 2: I'll throw this out to you that what is it

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Speaker 2: that the finals, like the Super Bowl, gets a ton

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02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:16,120
Speaker 2: of you know, ratings, right, everybody watched Super Bowl, everybody

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Speaker 2: watch the NFL playoffs, but the finals, the ratings.

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02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 3: Dip when it comes to the finals.

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Speaker 6: What is that?

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02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think frankly, even the lead up. I

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02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:31,440
Speaker 4: was thinking about this this morning as we were getting

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Speaker 4: ready to start the show. Think about how the week

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02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:37,840
Speaker 4: leading up to the super Bowl is so chaotic with

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02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:40,640
Speaker 4: just super Bowl, super Bowl, super Bowl, super Bowl conversation,

2582
02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 4: the week leading like the week leading up to the

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02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 4: NBA Finals they start on Thursday. For anyone that doesn't know,

2584
02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:48,920
Speaker 4: nobody's really thinking about it till we get closer to

2585
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 4: Thursday on the whole like it is. It is pretty

2586
02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:54,680
Speaker 4: amazing to me that, for whatever reason, the Finals right

2587
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:58,040
Speaker 4: now don't captivate America the way that I think they should.

2588
02:02:58,120 --> 02:03:00,200
Speaker 4: Like this is a great matchup. I would think this

2589
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:02,840
Speaker 4: would be a bigger part of the conversation. And I'm

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02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:06,680
Speaker 4: genuinely I'm truly interested to see the Celtics obviously have

2591
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:10,080
Speaker 4: brand recognition for days. The question is can the Maps

2592
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:12,480
Speaker 4: bring their portion to the fight too. I I think

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02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:13,440
Speaker 4: it's gonna be interesting.

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02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:16,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it.

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02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:19,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I love the matchup, but it doesn't feel

2596
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:23,040
Speaker 2: like and maybe it's because you know, it's Lebron kobea

2597
02:03:23,160 --> 02:03:26,520
Speaker 2: fact or whatever they or Staph like, you don't have

2598
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:30,000
Speaker 2: those those teams involved. But I don't know, I'm like, Wow,

2599
02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:33,839
Speaker 2: this is a great finals, and it just feels again

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02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:35,160
Speaker 2: like it's sleepy to me.

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Speaker 5: But what fixes that?

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Speaker 4: Like, that's that's what's interesting to me, because what would

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02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 4: have not been sleepy? Like you know what I mean

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02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 4: by that, It's because this feels to me like they

2605
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:49,760
Speaker 4: got the best case scenario. Look, if you're the NBA,

2606
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,080
Speaker 4: dever's not in it and the world's already proven they

2607
02:03:52,120 --> 02:03:55,040
Speaker 4: don't give a damn about the Nuggets. I'm sorry, Nuggets fan. Uh,

2608
02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:59,480
Speaker 4: there's there's just no there is no great flock of

2609
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:02,920
Speaker 4: people trying to see more Nuggets basketball. I wish there was,

2610
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:05,360
Speaker 4: but there isn't. So all of a sudden from this year,

2611
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:07,720
Speaker 4: Like well, on the East you get one of the

2612
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:10,240
Speaker 4: biggest brands in all of sports with the Celtics, and

2613
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 4: on the West you still get household name superstars that

2614
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:13,560
Speaker 4: everybody loves.

2615
02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:15,160
Speaker 5: And it's that I think, you.

2616
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:17,920
Speaker 4: Know, not for nothing, because a Shark tank has brand

2617
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:21,280
Speaker 4: recognition with even yoursuals, right, So sure I would think

2618
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:23,400
Speaker 4: that there'd be a ton of buzz for this, but

2619
02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:27,480
Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like that's necessarily the way everything else happens.

2620
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:29,720
Speaker 4: And I don't know what fixes that, you know, because

2621
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:32,520
Speaker 4: certainly it's I think it's good for the NBA to have.

2622
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,080
Speaker 5: A team like the Maps in this and not always

2623
02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 5: with the outcome.

2624
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:38,880
Speaker 7: We think Fike, Yeah, I don't know if it can

2625
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:41,640
Speaker 7: be fixed, just based on how the sports are built,

2626
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:44,040
Speaker 7: like the NFL. As comparison, you say that you know

2627
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:46,120
Speaker 7: there's a big deal with the Super Bowl outside of

2628
02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:48,640
Speaker 7: the fact that you know, the football's played once a week.

2629
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 7: Football is always built on and yes they're superstar players

2630
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:54,480
Speaker 7: left and right, but it's always about the sport. It's

2631
02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:56,560
Speaker 7: always about the league, and in the NBA, it's about

2632
02:04:56,600 --> 02:04:59,240
Speaker 7: the player. It's about the superstar. Now we know lu

2633
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:01,080
Speaker 7: lukad It has been one of the best players in

2634
02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 7: the league for the last three, maybe even four years

2635
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:05,720
Speaker 7: at this point in time, but he doesn't transcend the sport.

2636
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:08,600
Speaker 7: And if you want to get those sorts of eyeballs,

2637
02:05:08,920 --> 02:05:11,320
Speaker 7: like honestly fits coming out of the Western Conference, there

2638
02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 7: was one team that would have gotten you know, decent

2639
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:15,920
Speaker 7: amount of ratings for the NBA Finals, and that's the

2640
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:18,560
Speaker 7: Lakers because they have Lebron And that's because he's pretty

2641
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:21,080
Speaker 7: much the most recognizable name or one of the more

2642
02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 7: recognizable names still left in the league of the older guard,

2643
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:26,720
Speaker 7: you know, so that'd be like the one team. Or

2644
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:28,840
Speaker 7: if Golden State would have gone on a crazy run

2645
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:31,120
Speaker 7: and Steph had gotten back in, maybe they would have.

2646
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:33,080
Speaker 7: But the NBA is a star driven league, and if

2647
02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:37,360
Speaker 7: there aren't any really big time transcended, superstar type players,

2648
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:40,320
Speaker 7: people really just don't have that level of interest. And

2649
02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:42,480
Speaker 7: as good as great as Luca is, look, people that

2650
02:05:42,560 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 7: watch the NBA and know the NBA know how great

2651
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:46,880
Speaker 7: he is. People that watch know the NBA know how

2652
02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:49,960
Speaker 7: Grede Jason Tatum is, you know, playoff performances at times

2653
02:05:49,960 --> 02:05:53,520
Speaker 7: with notwithstanding, they just don't transcend the sport. And for

2654
02:05:53,560 --> 02:05:55,640
Speaker 7: the NBA to get big numbers, they need players who

2655
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:58,960
Speaker 7: transcend the sport to guards to get the casual fans

2656
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:01,040
Speaker 7: to be able to watch not only a game, which

2657
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl is one game, but an entire series.

2658
02:06:04,120 --> 02:06:05,600
Speaker 2: All right, So let me ask you guys your question,

2659
02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 2: so we know where throw football out of the equation.

2660
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 2: Let's go back to when baseball ruled the earth. All right,

2661
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:17,920
Speaker 2: it's not quite far back as dinosaurs.

2662
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:19,440
Speaker 6: Now, I was gonna say when the Willie Mamith was

2663
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:21,360
Speaker 6: walking around, right.

2664
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:25,880
Speaker 2: So if you go, we would be fair to say baseball,

2665
02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:30,040
Speaker 2: like the World Series, was a communal view for the

2666
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:34,120
Speaker 2: country up until what nineteen ninety.

2667
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 3: Ninety five?

2668
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 5: All right, say someone there, Yeah, would.

2669
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:40,160
Speaker 3: You guys agree?

2670
02:06:40,240 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 7: I mean the line of demarcation for a lot of people,

2671
02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 7: that's the strike year in ninety four ninety five. So yes, okay, Right,

2672
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:48,240
Speaker 7: So that's kind of when the things I guess started

2673
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:52,840
Speaker 7: quote unquote going downhill or what baseball, right, and then

2674
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:53,880
Speaker 7: the NFL.

2675
02:06:53,680 --> 02:06:56,680
Speaker 6: Just lapped it, right, just completely lapped. So let's go

2676
02:06:56,800 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 6: back to is the NBA at the.

2677
02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:06,760
Speaker 2: Level of what Major League Baseball was in nineteen ninety

2678
02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:13,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I think so, right, like it doesn't have

2679
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 2: is it captivating to the country. I listen, I'm an

2680
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 2: NBA fan, So I don't know, you know, all I

2681
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:23,800
Speaker 2: know is I got people arguing with me, Like, you know,

2682
02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:26,040
Speaker 2: I have a I work with a guy and he's like,

2683
02:07:27,320 --> 02:07:31,200
Speaker 2: and he's hit me with the WNBA, the NWNBA and

2684
02:07:31,240 --> 02:07:34,400
Speaker 2: the and you know again, I mean, I'm sure it's

2685
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:36,520
Speaker 2: a fine product. I don't watch it. I mean, I'm

2686
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:39,480
Speaker 2: gonna be honest with you. I just it's not my thing.

2687
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:41,960
Speaker 2: I just haven't I don't have enough time, right. I

2688
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:45,000
Speaker 2: like the NBA, so I watched That's my basketball fix.

2689
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:47,920
Speaker 2: But he was telling me, well, you know that that's

2690
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 2: eating into the thing, and you know, there there is

2691
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:53,840
Speaker 2: what it is, and you're you're.

2692
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:56,920
Speaker 3: You know, the NBA has lost its luster and everything else.

2693
02:07:57,600 --> 02:07:58,200
Speaker 6: And I don't know.

2694
02:07:58,400 --> 02:07:59,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just giving you.

2695
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 2: I mean, my I've always loved the NBA, so I mean,

2696
02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 2: this is a love affair of ad for decades.

2697
02:08:05,480 --> 02:08:06,920
Speaker 3: So I'll ask you, guys.

2698
02:08:06,840 --> 02:08:09,640
Speaker 4: You know, I don't feel like the NBA has lost

2699
02:08:09,640 --> 02:08:12,440
Speaker 4: its luster, but it is in a transition period. I

2700
02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:15,560
Speaker 4: don't think it's unfair to say that there are certain

2701
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:17,560
Speaker 4: times in every sport where you have to figure out,

2702
02:08:17,600 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 4: oh God, what's gonna happen next? And look, we were

2703
02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 4: talking about Peyton and Eli Peyton and Eli Peyton and

2704
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:27,400
Speaker 4: Brady earlier, you know, without necessarily acknowledging that there was

2705
02:08:27,440 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 4: a period when they were near their end where you

2706
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:31,760
Speaker 4: got to look at it and say, man, who's the

2707
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:33,840
Speaker 4: next man up? Now it turns out that they got that.

2708
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:36,160
Speaker 4: They got that in space, right. But like if you're

2709
02:08:36,200 --> 02:08:39,120
Speaker 4: the NBA right now, for an entire generation, it's been

2710
02:08:39,200 --> 02:08:44,240
Speaker 4: lebron kd Steph Right, the same characters are in this

2711
02:08:44,320 --> 02:08:47,560
Speaker 4: choose your Own adventure every single year. So as some

2712
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 4: of those guys are starting to age out and all

2713
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:52,200
Speaker 4: of a sudden, Lebron is really more of a celebrity

2714
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:56,640
Speaker 4: than a meaningful playoff basketball player, you need other guys

2715
02:08:56,640 --> 02:08:58,200
Speaker 4: to come in and step in, and so then what

2716
02:08:58,320 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 4: you got to hope is that you're not golf right.

2717
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:02,200
Speaker 4: You need guys to step in and have some sort

2718
02:09:02,200 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 4: of immediate connection, some level of winning. You need to

2719
02:09:05,160 --> 02:09:08,880
Speaker 4: have some credibility added to all of it. You need championships,

2720
02:09:08,920 --> 02:09:11,320
Speaker 4: you need you need a moment to sort of grow

2721
02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 4: the next step of stars. But certainly I think they're

2722
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:17,680
Speaker 4: in that transition period. But I also think it's it's

2723
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:21,400
Speaker 4: really disingenuous to make it sound like the NBA is

2724
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:25,160
Speaker 4: struggling while the w is thriving, when in fact, I

2725
02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:28,280
Speaker 4: think they're all sort of collectively trying to find their

2726
02:09:28,360 --> 02:09:30,280
Speaker 4: home and their rating spot in this moment.

2727
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:35,560
Speaker 3: If that makes sense, Yeah, I mean fake ahead, what

2728
02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:36,000
Speaker 3: do you say?

2729
02:09:37,320 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 7: No, you're right, I think the big issue, you know

2730
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:42,280
Speaker 7: what the NBA and because the transition period happens, you

2731
02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 7: know every fifteen to twenty years and so what was

2732
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:47,600
Speaker 7: going to happen after Jordan left, What was going to

2733
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:50,160
Speaker 7: happen after you know, shaking Kobe, What was gonna happen

2734
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:52,520
Speaker 7: after Lebron. I think the big issue is, and we

2735
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:55,880
Speaker 7: discussed this before on the show, is just not having

2736
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:58,440
Speaker 7: domestic stars to be able to grow, Like the best

2737
02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:01,360
Speaker 7: players in the league are not you know, homegrown players.

2738
02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 7: And I do think that that matters when you're talking

2739
02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:05,920
Speaker 7: especially appealing to the non sports fan or to the

2740
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:08,600
Speaker 7: non traditional fan who wants to have a player they

2741
02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:10,400
Speaker 7: can root for, a look up with it where they

2742
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:12,320
Speaker 7: can actually know how to pronounce and spell his name,

2743
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 7: like it might seem very small and trivial, but that

2744
02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:18,520
Speaker 7: that do think that's really important. Like whether or not

2745
02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:20,920
Speaker 7: Anthony Edwards continues as a scent, I'll tell you, I

2746
02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:23,960
Speaker 7: think the NBA is opening for that because outside of him,

2747
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 7: who's another American real basketball player that that you're looking

2748
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:29,600
Speaker 7: forward to, say, this guy can be the.

2749
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:31,839
Speaker 3: Face next, the next great player is Wemby?

2750
02:10:32,120 --> 02:10:36,760
Speaker 7: Correct, Yeah, it's it's Wenby, It's Luca, it's Joker, it's

2751
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:40,240
Speaker 7: jan Is, it's it's all foreign players. Shay is a

2752
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:43,360
Speaker 7: Canadian like it's there just aren't a lot of foreign,

2753
02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 7: foreign or excuse me, homegrown great players on the ascent.

2754
02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:49,120
Speaker 6: And so I do think that that's a big issue

2755
02:10:49,160 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 6: for the league.

2756
02:10:50,120 --> 02:10:53,960
Speaker 4: And and look, I mean college football has become such

2757
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:56,400
Speaker 4: a farm system for the NFL. We start to learn

2758
02:10:56,440 --> 02:10:58,440
Speaker 4: these names, and then we go into the NFL Draft.

2759
02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:00,920
Speaker 4: It's been so well marketed. That's not the case for

2760
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:03,640
Speaker 4: the NBA, if we're being honest, I mean college basketball,

2761
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:06,040
Speaker 4: even in the one and done era, a lot of

2762
02:11:06,040 --> 02:11:08,640
Speaker 4: people don't even fall in love with these guys. Sometimes

2763
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:10,360
Speaker 4: you barely even know what their name is. And then

2764
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:12,760
Speaker 4: you watch the draft, which I find is one of

2765
02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:17,040
Speaker 4: the most confusing sports broadcasts of all time. Every single

2766
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:19,360
Speaker 4: year is the NBA Draft, where guys are wearing a hat,

2767
02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:21,280
Speaker 4: but we already know on the broadcast they've been traded

2768
02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:24,080
Speaker 4: or the rights are gone, or this is happening, Like, sure,

2769
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:26,360
Speaker 4: the Lakers picked this person, but did they really pick

2770
02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 4: this person? It just makes it so hard to fall

2771
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:31,160
Speaker 4: in love with the guys that walk in. Like one

2772
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:33,200
Speaker 4: thing that the NFL has figured out that's to college

2773
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:35,879
Speaker 4: football is how to make sure that when you're drafted

2774
02:11:35,920 --> 02:11:38,280
Speaker 4: in the first round by the time. Either you've watched

2775
02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:40,440
Speaker 4: them in college, you've read enough mock drafts, there's enough

2776
02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:42,760
Speaker 4: coverage of it. You've fallen in love with a bunch

2777
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:45,640
Speaker 4: of these people before they've even been selected, right that

2778
02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 4: that just isn't the case to the same level in

2779
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:51,040
Speaker 4: the NBA, Like this year's draft. In the NBA, most

2780
02:11:51,080 --> 02:11:54,120
Speaker 4: people will be confused. Most people have never seen a

2781
02:11:54,160 --> 02:11:56,040
Speaker 4: lot of these kids play basketball, and a lot of

2782
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:59,080
Speaker 4: these guys won't even make meaningful contributions to a roster

2783
02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:01,960
Speaker 4: for years. So it's just it's sort of a broken system,

2784
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:03,160
Speaker 4: even in feeding interest.

2785
02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:06,960
Speaker 6: It's so interesting, it's a great way to put it.

2786
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:12,600
Speaker 2: It's interesting because of the way that we viewed baseball.

2787
02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:13,840
Speaker 3: Was we viewed it.

2788
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:16,680
Speaker 2: If you go back to nineteen ninety, nineteen ninety, which

2789
02:12:16,720 --> 02:12:20,840
Speaker 2: we were talking about, we viewed baseball it didn't matter

2790
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:23,080
Speaker 2: who your team was, right, Like didn't matter, I mean

2791
02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:23,680
Speaker 2: didn't matter.

2792
02:12:24,520 --> 02:12:26,919
Speaker 3: It was in the World Series. It was the World Series.

2793
02:12:27,320 --> 02:12:32,280
Speaker 2: Just the name of itself, the name itself cannoted something big.

2794
02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 2: You know, let's face it, the NBA Finals want waht, right,

2795
02:12:38,040 --> 02:12:43,920
Speaker 2: the Super Ball the World Series, Like that's incredible, right,

2796
02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 2: Like the World Series can pig and it didn't matter

2797
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:48,440
Speaker 2: if your team was in it or not.

2798
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:51,959
Speaker 6: You watched because it was the World Series.

2799
02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:57,040
Speaker 2: But now nobody really watches the World Series unless yours

2800
02:12:57,120 --> 02:13:01,240
Speaker 2: team's in it, and it's more regional. And I feel

2801
02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:03,880
Speaker 2: like that's kind of what the NBA is. It's a

2802
02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:08,360
Speaker 2: little more national than Major League Baseball, but not much

2803
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:10,160
Speaker 2: more fair.

2804
02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:14,320
Speaker 4: I mean, are we reaching a spot where basically take

2805
02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:16,440
Speaker 4: football out of this equation for a second. Are we

2806
02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:18,880
Speaker 4: reaching a spot where everybody else is just sort of

2807
02:13:19,720 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 4: fighting for scraps? Like I would argue the Stanley Cup

2808
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:25,560
Speaker 4: playoff run right now, Like you've got two series that

2809
02:13:25,600 --> 02:13:27,960
Speaker 4: have been really exciting. There's a lot on the line

2810
02:13:27,960 --> 02:13:31,640
Speaker 4: for a hockey guy that absolutely loves the sport, but

2811
02:13:31,720 --> 02:13:35,080
Speaker 4: nobody's man like. The ratings have been high for the

2812
02:13:35,160 --> 02:13:38,920
Speaker 4: NHL Stanley Cup for the for the conference final series, the.

2813
02:13:38,920 --> 02:13:43,360
Speaker 5: Ratings have been higher than most people expected. But there's

2814
02:13:43,400 --> 02:13:47,880
Speaker 5: still a fraction, a fraction of what like a maction.

2815
02:13:47,720 --> 02:13:49,720
Speaker 4: On a Thursday night's getting better ratings in most of

2816
02:13:49,720 --> 02:13:51,000
Speaker 4: these Stanley Cup night games.

2817
02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:52,920
Speaker 5: So like, it all just feels like it's.

2818
02:13:54,240 --> 02:13:54,600
Speaker 6: Product.

2819
02:13:55,360 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 2: NHL playoffs are ridiculous, Like if you just sit down

2820
02:14:00,920 --> 02:14:03,640
Speaker 2: and watch one of these games. You watch Edmonton, right,

2821
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:06,920
Speaker 2: or you watch the Rangers in Florida. My god, too

2822
02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:13,560
Speaker 2: many games are ridiculous. They're so good, right, you know, I.

2823
02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:15,480
Speaker 5: Mean, and Edmonton's weird.

2824
02:14:15,400 --> 02:14:17,640
Speaker 4: With one of the best players we'll see, I mean,

2825
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:22,200
Speaker 4: like a superstar player, right, Like, so Edmonton's got superstars

2826
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:24,440
Speaker 4: and they're on the cusp of the Stanley Cup Final

2827
02:14:24,520 --> 02:14:26,240
Speaker 4: for the first time in what twenty years I think

2828
02:14:26,240 --> 02:14:28,520
Speaker 4: it is, So you think about where they are, and

2829
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:31,120
Speaker 4: then on the other side, you've got the Rangers, who

2830
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:33,320
Speaker 4: we all know how powerful that brand is, right and

2831
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:36,800
Speaker 4: taking on a Panthers team that has absolutely been incredible

2832
02:14:36,840 --> 02:14:39,440
Speaker 4: to watch. You would think that that would be dynamic

2833
02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:42,200
Speaker 4: things that people are flocking to. It is interesting because

2834
02:14:42,360 --> 02:14:44,320
Speaker 4: part of it probably comes back to the way we

2835
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:47,480
Speaker 4: cover sports too, though. Like I heard somebody talk the

2836
02:14:47,480 --> 02:14:49,520
Speaker 4: other day about the Spelling Bee, and it made me

2837
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:52,120
Speaker 4: laugh because it wasn't that long ago that the Spelling

2838
02:14:52,120 --> 02:14:55,080
Speaker 4: Bee would have been on every ESPN channel. Everybody would

2839
02:14:55,120 --> 02:14:57,440
Speaker 4: have been flocking to watch it because there was nothing

2840
02:14:57,440 --> 02:14:59,240
Speaker 4: else on, so you just sat there and took it.

2841
02:14:59,280 --> 02:15:01,640
Speaker 4: But now we've just sort of reached the spot where

2842
02:15:01,640 --> 02:15:04,440
Speaker 4: we find so much off season football talk that it's

2843
02:15:04,480 --> 02:15:08,600
Speaker 4: just there's very little want for interest in or explanation

2844
02:15:08,760 --> 02:15:12,720
Speaker 4: of die hard stuff around the Stanley Cup playoffs or

2845
02:15:12,760 --> 02:15:15,720
Speaker 4: the NBA playoffs. It just leaves everybody sort of sitting

2846
02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:17,040
Speaker 4: there saying, give me the soap opera.

2847
02:15:17,080 --> 02:15:18,040
Speaker 5: Don't give it to me at all.

2848
02:15:19,480 --> 02:15:21,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, they love the soap opera.

2849
02:15:21,280 --> 02:15:24,560
Speaker 5: Man, gotta have stars in your movie here, nobody's gonna go.

2850
02:15:25,120 --> 02:15:27,160
Speaker 6: Viewers are also very are spread really thin.

2851
02:15:27,320 --> 02:15:29,680
Speaker 7: There are so many streaming products and so many things

2852
02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:31,680
Speaker 7: that you can watch, or time is limited. You mentioned that,

2853
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:33,720
Speaker 7: like you don't have time to watch WNBA games with

2854
02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:35,320
Speaker 7: too much other stuff going on, so you have to

2855
02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:38,240
Speaker 7: really be economical about what you choose to spend your

2856
02:15:38,360 --> 02:15:42,480
Speaker 7: time watching. And football gets kind of set to a schedule.

2857
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:44,760
Speaker 7: I mean, well up until now, there's games every day

2858
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:46,920
Speaker 7: of the week. I mean coming up this upcoming season,

2859
02:15:46,960 --> 02:15:49,760
Speaker 7: but generally speaking, you know, Sunday, I'll speak from a

2860
02:15:49,760 --> 02:15:52,320
Speaker 7: Pacific times on Sunday at ten am, one pm, and

2861
02:15:52,640 --> 02:15:56,200
Speaker 7: five pm like clockwork Monday night. And if it's a

2862
02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:58,640
Speaker 7: special occasion at Thursday here and there or I guess Thursday.

2863
02:15:58,680 --> 02:16:01,240
Speaker 7: Starting in week two, you know when there's going to

2864
02:16:01,280 --> 02:16:04,040
Speaker 7: be football everything baseball. Your team may be on tonight,

2865
02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:06,560
Speaker 7: may not be basketball. There's a game on, but is

2866
02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:07,400
Speaker 7: it a game I want to watch?

2867
02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:07,840
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2868
02:16:08,480 --> 02:16:11,040
Speaker 7: It's one of those. You know, it's almost like the

2869
02:16:11,080 --> 02:16:15,040
Speaker 7: system is automated for you. From a football standpoint, You

2870
02:16:15,160 --> 02:16:17,600
Speaker 7: just automatically know there are going to be a group

2871
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:19,840
Speaker 7: of games on at this time, and there's probably going

2872
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:22,000
Speaker 7: to be the best game on at this time, and

2873
02:16:22,080 --> 02:16:25,000
Speaker 7: another solid game hopefully on Monday, and if not, by

2874
02:16:25,040 --> 02:16:26,960
Speaker 7: week six, they'll flex it out for a better one

2875
02:16:27,880 --> 02:16:29,560
Speaker 7: and doesn't count.

2876
02:16:29,560 --> 02:16:32,160
Speaker 6: And that doesn't even count college, correct, right?

2877
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:34,280
Speaker 7: Which College is so much different because you have the

2878
02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:38,000
Speaker 7: personal connections that people have on top of just regular fandom,

2879
02:16:38,280 --> 02:16:40,760
Speaker 7: the alumni and all that students.

2880
02:16:42,280 --> 02:16:46,879
Speaker 6: It's college football number two in sports.

2881
02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:49,640
Speaker 7: Oh easily at North American Sports ten thousand percent.

2882
02:16:50,240 --> 02:16:51,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, not too close.

2883
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I think the same thing. I love it,

2884
02:16:55,840 --> 02:16:59,680
Speaker 2: like I like if I'm just thinking of imagining, uh,

2885
02:17:00,200 --> 02:17:01,920
Speaker 2: you know, any kind of.

2886
02:17:02,040 --> 02:17:04,760
Speaker 6: If there's especially a big college game. The big college

2887
02:17:04,760 --> 02:17:09,720
Speaker 6: game's riveting, you know, it's just it feels so big.

2888
02:17:09,800 --> 02:17:13,240
Speaker 2: That's maybe why. And like FITZI I don't have a team.

2889
02:17:13,600 --> 02:17:16,160
Speaker 2: I mean I went to Temple right when they were horrible,

2890
02:17:16,520 --> 02:17:18,880
Speaker 2: well out than a blip when that was Matt Ruhle

2891
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:21,920
Speaker 2: was there, it was it was it. I mean, we

2892
02:17:21,959 --> 02:17:24,680
Speaker 2: had nothing, so I really just root for the story.

2893
02:17:24,720 --> 02:17:26,959
Speaker 2: And I love it. I don't know, I mean I

2894
02:17:26,959 --> 02:17:27,879
Speaker 2: can't get enough of it.

2895
02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:30,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love the story.

2896
02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:31,880
Speaker 4: I love the pageantry of it too, Like I love

2897
02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:34,560
Speaker 4: all of that together, Like it's just sort of college

2898
02:17:34,560 --> 02:17:37,280
Speaker 4: football hits me hard for that very reason, like it

2899
02:17:37,600 --> 02:17:41,720
Speaker 4: just feels there's an element to it that feels special.

2900
02:17:41,879 --> 02:17:44,120
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's by far it's become number two. And

2901
02:17:44,160 --> 02:17:46,760
Speaker 4: think about just the way we are all going to

2902
02:17:46,920 --> 02:17:49,600
Speaker 4: just freak out because we are only a couple of

2903
02:17:49,600 --> 02:17:51,600
Speaker 4: months away from what I keep saying is going to

2904
02:17:51,640 --> 02:17:54,560
Speaker 4: be one of the most unprecedented seasons we'll ever see

2905
02:17:54,680 --> 02:17:58,400
Speaker 4: in college football, right, And so even when we hit

2906
02:17:58,560 --> 02:18:00,440
Speaker 4: I looked it up there August twenty four is the

2907
02:18:00,480 --> 02:18:03,760
Speaker 4: first day of college football this year, and I realized,

2908
02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:06,520
Speaker 4: not everybody right now, like in the middle of December,

2909
02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:08,879
Speaker 4: you might not be excited for that Florida State at

2910
02:18:08,920 --> 02:18:12,160
Speaker 4: Georgia Tech game, for that Montana State at New Mexico game,

2911
02:18:12,160 --> 02:18:14,520
Speaker 4: but that Saturday, August twenty fourth. You bet you, but

2912
02:18:14,640 --> 02:18:17,520
Speaker 4: everybody's gonna be watching it. Everybody's gonna have that thing on.

2913
02:18:19,560 --> 02:18:21,520
Speaker 3: That's not bad. Florida State, Georgia Tech.

2914
02:18:22,160 --> 02:18:24,000
Speaker 5: No, it's not bad. It's not bad. I'm just saying that,

2915
02:18:24,120 --> 02:18:25,400
Speaker 5: like to your.

2916
02:18:25,320 --> 02:18:31,240
Speaker 2: Point, O, you're right, like when you're starved and they're

2917
02:18:31,280 --> 02:18:37,200
Speaker 2: gonna feed you. Florida State, Georgia Czech Like, that's I mean,

2918
02:18:38,440 --> 02:18:41,920
Speaker 2: in August, that's a state dinner, right, like you're right.

2919
02:18:41,959 --> 02:18:44,480
Speaker 2: In November it's you know, it's a bag of chips.

2920
02:18:44,840 --> 02:18:47,520
Speaker 2: But in August it's a state dinner. Because you just

2921
02:18:47,560 --> 02:18:49,760
Speaker 2: that's gonna be the first real football game we'll see.

2922
02:18:50,720 --> 02:18:56,760
Speaker 4: God, Saturday August twenty fourth, then it's just all lingus.

2923
02:18:57,640 --> 02:19:02,279
Speaker 4: It's yeah, they're exe to say. And then the next weekend,

2924
02:19:02,320 --> 02:19:04,000
Speaker 4: my god, like there's just a I can't wait.

2925
02:19:04,080 --> 02:19:04,720
Speaker 5: I can't wait.

2926
02:19:06,160 --> 02:19:07,879
Speaker 3: I know, dude, this is awesome.

2927
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:11,600
Speaker 6: Now you got me looking at the schedule.

2928
02:19:13,000 --> 02:19:15,880
Speaker 4: Here's a real question. You you're getting inmed for preseason football.

2929
02:19:15,879 --> 02:19:18,000
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie to you, cousin. I watch preseason football.

2930
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:18,480
Speaker 5: I love it.

2931
02:19:19,080 --> 02:19:22,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got I'm with you. I watch it all.

2932
02:19:23,400 --> 02:19:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, I like, I look forward to it, me too, Yeah,

2933
02:19:27,640 --> 02:19:28,720
Speaker 2: I got I got no hate.

2934
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:30,600
Speaker 3: How about you?

2935
02:19:30,640 --> 02:19:32,600
Speaker 7: Fig Well, I look forward to her for about the

2936
02:19:32,600 --> 02:19:34,800
Speaker 7: first five minutes. Then I realized it's preseason again, and

2937
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:36,560
Speaker 7: I was like, all right, when does the regular season start?

2938
02:19:37,560 --> 02:19:38,039
Speaker 5: I hear you?

2939
02:19:38,080 --> 02:19:39,400
Speaker 6: So it's like, when when can we get to this

2940
02:19:39,440 --> 02:19:42,879
Speaker 6: eighteen game schedule? I'm just talking about. Yeah, that's fair.

2941
02:19:43,560 --> 02:19:45,120
Speaker 6: You know that's fair.

2942
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:47,119
Speaker 7: So I get excited for the Hall of Fame game

2943
02:19:47,280 --> 02:19:50,520
Speaker 7: for about the first three series. Yeah, then I'm like,

2944
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:53,320
Speaker 7: all right, what else is on? All the backups are in?

2945
02:19:54,280 --> 02:19:55,720
Speaker 7: If the start is ever if any of the start

2946
02:19:55,720 --> 02:19:57,480
Speaker 7: has ever played to begin with, which you know that

2947
02:19:57,560 --> 02:20:01,160
Speaker 7: happens less and less frequently now. But yes, the element

2948
02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:04,440
Speaker 7: of its football. I'll watch any sort of football, yeah,

2949
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:07,280
Speaker 7: I'll check it out. But that has that meaning. So

2950
02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:10,360
Speaker 7: I'll be more apt to watch Montana State versus where

2951
02:20:10,400 --> 02:20:14,680
Speaker 7: they playing, whoever it is, versus you know, an NFL

2952
02:20:14,720 --> 02:20:16,800
Speaker 7: preseason game, because at least that game has meaning, even

2953
02:20:16,840 --> 02:20:18,879
Speaker 7: if it's you know a couple of schools that won't

2954
02:20:18,920 --> 02:20:21,160
Speaker 7: really factor into the playoff fixture or anything else.

2955
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:22,440
Speaker 6: Down the stretch.

2956
02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:26,200
Speaker 4: Montana State at New Mexico on FS one at three

2957
02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:27,800
Speaker 4: pm Saturday, August twenty fourth.

2958
02:20:28,120 --> 02:20:28,920
Speaker 5: Be sure to check it out.

2959
02:20:28,920 --> 02:20:29,360
Speaker 6: I'm on it.

2960
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:31,240
Speaker 3: Oh that's beautiful man.

2961
02:20:32,520 --> 02:20:35,680
Speaker 4: Love Thursday, August twenty ninth, North Carolina at Minnesota.

2962
02:20:35,720 --> 02:20:38,040
Speaker 5: God, why am I already excited for this? Why?

2963
02:20:38,200 --> 02:20:43,879
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude about Friday? That Friday, My chap

2964
02:20:43,959 --> 02:20:45,199
Speaker 2: Olloal's in Norman.

2965
02:20:45,920 --> 02:20:52,720
Speaker 6: Oh against what some sideline passes for that one, cauz.

2966
02:20:53,160 --> 02:20:54,320
Speaker 6: I would love to go to Norman.

2967
02:20:54,640 --> 02:20:55,440
Speaker 3: That will be a cool.

2968
02:20:57,360 --> 02:21:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh god, it was forever ago, lifetime.

2969
02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:03,880
Speaker 6: Chris playing, want to hook you up?

2970
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:08,039
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I would like to go to Norman.

2971
02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:12,360
Speaker 2: The well, that's why these towns are awesome, like these

2972
02:21:12,400 --> 02:21:21,879
Speaker 2: Story Lincoln, right with these Athens, Georgia, like they're just difficult,

2973
02:21:21,920 --> 02:21:23,000
Speaker 2: these little town these.

2974
02:21:22,879 --> 02:21:26,200
Speaker 7: College That's why I like with the playoff expansion, that

2975
02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:30,160
Speaker 7: we'll have the opportunity home playoff games so these places

2976
02:21:30,200 --> 02:21:34,440
Speaker 7: can actually witness that. Yes, yes, I mean these Bowl

2977
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:37,160
Speaker 7: games get so sterile and then it's great and the product,

2978
02:21:37,240 --> 02:21:38,959
Speaker 7: the players are great and all that, but I mean

2979
02:21:39,000 --> 02:21:44,320
Speaker 7: being able to watch a playoff game home, Oh my god,

2980
02:21:44,400 --> 02:21:47,440
Speaker 7: bur in Death Valley, Yes, where.

2981
02:21:47,440 --> 02:21:48,120
Speaker 6: It'd be awesome.

2982
02:21:48,440 --> 02:21:48,520
Speaker 9: Man.

2983
02:21:48,600 --> 02:21:51,880
Speaker 2: You imagine to shoot Yeah, and snow it out. Oh

2984
02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:56,200
Speaker 2: my god, fabulous, It's be great. All right, we gotta

2985
02:21:56,200 --> 02:21:59,920
Speaker 2: take quick time out. Fellas hagging out right here. Fox

2986
02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:06,800
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Jason Kevin figures on Anthony Garganta. I know

2987
02:22:06,879 --> 02:22:08,320
Speaker 2: he's tapping going on now.

2988
02:22:08,840 --> 02:22:13,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah. This is a little mood music

2989
02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:13,800
Speaker 5: right here.

2990
02:22:14,000 --> 02:22:16,760
Speaker 4: Yes, Like if you're if you're if you're up late

2991
02:22:16,800 --> 02:22:19,760
Speaker 4: on the West Coast, you're welcome for this. If you're

2992
02:22:19,879 --> 02:22:23,160
Speaker 4: up early, time to get some morning sunshine, and you're

2993
02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:25,199
Speaker 4: welcome for this. Like this just feels like it's creating

2994
02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:27,080
Speaker 4: the mood. Like if this doesn't make you want to

2995
02:22:27,080 --> 02:22:29,120
Speaker 4: like explore the hibitidibity, I don't know what does.

2996
02:22:33,440 --> 02:22:38,560
Speaker 3: That's great? Well e wf for you. Let me.

2997
02:22:39,040 --> 02:22:41,480
Speaker 2: I was just talking to one of our great listeners

2998
02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:48,000
Speaker 2: and buddy of mine, Nikki, and uh, he loves fels.

2999
02:22:49,440 --> 02:22:53,360
Speaker 2: So we were talking and about the college football. He's

3000
02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:56,000
Speaker 2: like one of the reasons why college football is incredible

3001
02:22:56,120 --> 02:23:01,520
Speaker 2: is that he usually get like there's always like amazing games, right,

3002
02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:05,320
Speaker 2: Like it's one day, so you could devote a singular

3003
02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:08,160
Speaker 2: day and it's just chock full games, right, you have

3004
02:23:08,160 --> 02:23:12,600
Speaker 2: at one o'clock, dude, kickoff, right, and then you got

3005
02:23:12,640 --> 02:23:16,959
Speaker 2: three thirty, and then you got your seven staggered eight

3006
02:23:17,480 --> 02:23:19,959
Speaker 2: eight thirty, and then you're gonna Lake game or whatever.

3007
02:23:20,840 --> 02:23:23,120
Speaker 2: But those games, I'm going to East Coast US. But

3008
02:23:23,200 --> 02:23:26,880
Speaker 2: those games, it's a full day of just incredible stuff.

3009
02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:32,199
Speaker 2: If you're college football and they do it with mac shit,

3010
02:23:32,400 --> 02:23:35,959
Speaker 2: they do it with some other lesser Thursday night games

3011
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:37,760
Speaker 2: and uh, Friday night games.

3012
02:23:38,800 --> 02:23:40,920
Speaker 6: Would you can pick.

3013
02:23:42,400 --> 02:23:46,640
Speaker 2: And create games during the week, especially that you could

3014
02:23:46,680 --> 02:23:49,959
Speaker 2: do that with the playoffs because one loss isn't a

3015
02:23:49,959 --> 02:23:54,200
Speaker 2: big deal and have a big Friday, right, call it.

3016
02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:57,600
Speaker 2: You call it big Friday Night. And because the NFL

3017
02:23:57,680 --> 02:24:03,000
Speaker 2: is on Thursday, you do you know, you know big Wednesday,

3018
02:24:03,200 --> 02:24:07,960
Speaker 2: and you know whatever for Tuesday, and then college football

3019
02:24:08,080 --> 02:24:15,600
Speaker 2: has game big, like interesting big games Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday,

3020
02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:18,760
Speaker 2: and the NFL was Yeah, the.

3021
02:24:18,680 --> 02:24:21,160
Speaker 4: Only problem with that in my mind because I hear

3022
02:24:21,200 --> 02:24:24,640
Speaker 4: what you're saying, but part of what the college football

3023
02:24:24,680 --> 02:24:28,720
Speaker 4: landscape on Saturday does is it masks some things, right,

3024
02:24:28,800 --> 02:24:31,720
Speaker 4: Because let's be real, I just pulled a random week

3025
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:33,760
Speaker 4: Week four of this year's college football schedule.

3026
02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:36,119
Speaker 5: There are games there that matter.

3027
02:24:36,200 --> 02:24:38,800
Speaker 4: Tennessee at Oklahoma, for example, Week four that is going

3028
02:24:38,840 --> 02:24:41,680
Speaker 4: to be a delight. But there's also U wel Monroe

3029
02:24:41,720 --> 02:24:45,400
Speaker 4: at Texas, Kent State at Penn State. That's not going

3030
02:24:45,480 --> 02:24:47,160
Speaker 4: to be any good, right, Like, some of these games

3031
02:24:47,320 --> 02:24:50,480
Speaker 4: are just going to stink. Duke get MTSU like Middle Tennessee.

3032
02:24:50,800 --> 02:24:52,480
Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of people are flocking to

3033
02:24:52,520 --> 02:24:55,360
Speaker 4: see games Madison at North Carolina. So I think where

3034
02:24:55,440 --> 02:24:58,760
Speaker 4: college football wins on Saturday is the bulk, right, So

3035
02:24:58,959 --> 02:25:01,920
Speaker 4: if you get an unexp acted crazy result, then people

3036
02:25:01,959 --> 02:25:03,720
Speaker 4: are gonna flock to that and you get that energy.

3037
02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:06,880
Speaker 4: But you still need those big name moments to happen

3038
02:25:07,360 --> 02:25:09,320
Speaker 4: during the day because all of a sudden, you know,

3039
02:25:09,400 --> 02:25:11,360
Speaker 4: Kansas at West Virginia is going to be an interesting

3040
02:25:11,400 --> 02:25:14,560
Speaker 4: game this year, right, So that's the reason people are there.

3041
02:25:14,879 --> 02:25:17,200
Speaker 4: And then Ball State Central Michigan is the reason that

3042
02:25:17,200 --> 02:25:19,680
Speaker 4: somebody might flip over and just see how something ends

3043
02:25:19,720 --> 02:25:22,080
Speaker 4: that day, you know. So I think they need if

3044
02:25:22,080 --> 02:25:24,560
Speaker 4: they while you're right there a handful of teams that

3045
02:25:24,600 --> 02:25:26,400
Speaker 4: they can put the different nights and they could win

3046
02:25:26,480 --> 02:25:26,960
Speaker 4: those nights.

3047
02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:31,640
Speaker 2: I believe five because of the power five, right like,

3048
02:25:32,840 --> 02:25:36,840
Speaker 2: and schedule making will change too, because now all of

3049
02:25:36,840 --> 02:25:39,280
Speaker 2: a sudden you can take big games and not be

3050
02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:43,480
Speaker 2: afraid of you know, I'm not making the playoffs right,

3051
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:46,240
Speaker 2: like if you're you know, and the cupcakes can go

3052
02:25:46,400 --> 02:25:47,320
Speaker 2: down a little bit.

3053
02:25:48,160 --> 02:25:48,640
Speaker 5: I hope.

3054
02:25:48,720 --> 02:25:51,720
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I hear that. I think though, you know,

3055
02:25:52,040 --> 02:25:54,080
Speaker 4: and I can see in the future. I saw the

3056
02:25:54,120 --> 02:25:56,000
Speaker 4: report that you know, ESPN is trying to get more

3057
02:25:56,120 --> 02:25:59,520
Speaker 4: SEC games, and you know, it's all about money and everything.

3058
02:25:59,600 --> 02:26:02,520
Speaker 4: And I mean the coverage that Fox is gonna give

3059
02:26:02,560 --> 02:26:04,959
Speaker 4: to the Big ten and the coverage that ESPN is

3060
02:26:04,959 --> 02:26:06,720
Speaker 4: gonna give to the SEC this year, I think you're

3061
02:26:06,760 --> 02:26:11,120
Speaker 4: gonna see two networks really pumping up certain certain teams

3062
02:26:11,160 --> 02:26:14,800
Speaker 4: and certain conferences. Obviously that's gonna leave a real opportunity.

3063
02:26:15,200 --> 02:26:17,440
Speaker 4: I do believe they could put a game here or

3064
02:26:17,480 --> 02:26:19,160
Speaker 4: there on a different night. But I don't know, man,

3065
02:26:19,200 --> 02:26:21,879
Speaker 4: I just think there's there is something magical about what

3066
02:26:22,080 --> 02:26:25,800
Speaker 4: Saturday is, Like you watch all day, Yeah, like yes,

3067
02:26:25,879 --> 02:26:27,840
Speaker 4: I just I don't know there's that.

3068
02:26:28,280 --> 02:26:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm with you. I've just seen your so

3069
02:26:30,520 --> 02:26:35,360
Speaker 2: many games that you could afford to go fuck, you know,

3070
02:26:35,480 --> 02:26:36,440
Speaker 2: one or two a week.

3071
02:26:37,680 --> 02:26:41,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I mean to your point, and look, this

3072
02:26:41,120 --> 02:26:43,480
Speaker 4: first world problem. But I love that I get to

3073
02:26:43,480 --> 02:26:47,160
Speaker 4: cover college football pretty extensively for Yahoo, right, And so

3074
02:26:47,360 --> 02:26:50,400
Speaker 4: last year I was doing reaction videos to big games

3075
02:26:50,400 --> 02:26:52,560
Speaker 4: throughout the course of the day. The number of times

3076
02:26:52,560 --> 02:26:55,160
Speaker 4: I found that I have four TVs set up in

3077
02:26:55,200 --> 02:26:58,160
Speaker 4: a square essentially for college football Saturdays. The number of

3078
02:26:58,240 --> 02:27:00,240
Speaker 4: times I found out that I needed more than that.

3079
02:27:00,320 --> 02:27:03,640
Speaker 4: And that's not an exaggeration, that's a I got to watch.

3080
02:27:03,879 --> 02:27:04,879
Speaker 5: I'm trying to watch as.

3081
02:27:04,720 --> 02:27:06,280
Speaker 4: Many of these things go on, and if you split

3082
02:27:06,280 --> 02:27:08,560
Speaker 4: screen it like they do on YouTube really nicely, for me,

3083
02:27:09,040 --> 02:27:12,080
Speaker 4: you better have huge TVs, right, So it just gets

3084
02:27:12,200 --> 02:27:14,640
Speaker 4: really difficult to see some of that stuff. So I

3085
02:27:14,680 --> 02:27:17,280
Speaker 4: found myself needing, and then YouTube didn't let me pick

3086
02:27:17,280 --> 02:27:19,440
Speaker 4: the games. So there are times that I'm sitting there

3087
02:27:19,480 --> 02:27:21,520
Speaker 4: and I'm like, man, there were times last year that

3088
02:27:21,560 --> 02:27:24,720
Speaker 4: I had four games up, plus my laptops all open

3089
02:27:24,879 --> 02:27:26,760
Speaker 4: just to try and to track this. So you're right,

3090
02:27:26,800 --> 02:27:30,039
Speaker 4: there's more inventory than any one person can consume. And

3091
02:27:30,080 --> 02:27:32,640
Speaker 4: I've had to really teach myself how to watch that

3092
02:27:32,760 --> 02:27:35,520
Speaker 4: many games at once, Like it's not easy to actually

3093
02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:37,520
Speaker 4: follow flow of a game and try and figure out

3094
02:27:37,560 --> 02:27:40,760
Speaker 4: what to prioritize when. So yeah, selfishly, if they spread

3095
02:27:40,760 --> 02:27:42,440
Speaker 4: some of it out it would make it would make

3096
02:27:42,440 --> 02:27:44,440
Speaker 4: the conversation last longer about it too.

3097
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:48,840
Speaker 6: Fig I think it makes it a little bit too

3098
02:27:48,840 --> 02:27:49,680
Speaker 6: convoluted for me.

3099
02:27:50,000 --> 02:27:52,280
Speaker 7: You also know, more of a traditionalist, I also agree

3100
02:27:52,280 --> 02:27:53,920
Speaker 7: with fits and talking about you know, there are so

3101
02:27:54,040 --> 02:27:57,240
Speaker 7: many games on Saturdays. You know, it's it's a tradition

3102
02:27:57,320 --> 02:27:59,280
Speaker 7: to a certain degree, and early in the season there

3103
02:27:59,280 --> 02:28:01,160
Speaker 7: are so many blow up and I know you believe

3104
02:28:01,200 --> 02:28:03,800
Speaker 7: Anthony that now at the playoff, I think it makes

3105
02:28:03,840 --> 02:28:06,200
Speaker 7: logical sense that teams will be able to schedule more

3106
02:28:06,200 --> 02:28:07,400
Speaker 7: boldly in the non conference.

3107
02:28:07,879 --> 02:28:09,640
Speaker 6: I don't know if a lot of teams are going

3108
02:28:09,720 --> 02:28:10,119
Speaker 6: to do that.

3109
02:28:10,400 --> 02:28:12,840
Speaker 7: There is talk this week that usc my back off

3110
02:28:12,840 --> 02:28:15,160
Speaker 7: of I don't think they'll do it, but like they

3111
02:28:15,240 --> 02:28:17,520
Speaker 7: might not schedule Notre Dame because the Big Ten schedule

3112
02:28:17,600 --> 02:28:20,599
Speaker 7: is so tough, Oh need non conference.

3113
02:28:21,800 --> 02:28:22,400
Speaker 6: Hurt them.

3114
02:28:22,800 --> 02:28:24,360
Speaker 7: I don't think it's going to happen, but the fact

3115
02:28:24,360 --> 02:28:27,120
Speaker 7: that it's being discussed tells you that there are teams

3116
02:28:27,160 --> 02:28:29,360
Speaker 7: that felt that they had to schedule boldly before now

3117
02:28:29,360 --> 02:28:30,720
Speaker 7: all of a sudden are not going to do that,

3118
02:28:30,840 --> 02:28:32,400
Speaker 7: or at least are not going to feel the incentive

3119
02:28:32,440 --> 02:28:34,960
Speaker 7: to have to do that because similar to the SEC

3120
02:28:35,400 --> 02:28:37,840
Speaker 7: who annually schedules their two or three cupcakes a year.

3121
02:28:38,160 --> 02:28:41,360
Speaker 7: Your conference schedule is going to be so difficult. Why

3122
02:28:41,440 --> 02:28:43,760
Speaker 7: you even take the risk of potentially losing to a

3123
02:28:43,800 --> 02:28:45,000
Speaker 7: Power conference opponent.

3124
02:28:45,480 --> 02:28:48,960
Speaker 4: And I hear that Faggi, and I think the committee

3125
02:28:49,040 --> 02:28:51,320
Speaker 4: is really going to help this year set the tone

3126
02:28:51,400 --> 02:28:53,800
Speaker 4: for what they expect. One thing though, that is interesting

3127
02:28:53,800 --> 02:28:56,480
Speaker 4: to me about the idea of spreading them out Larry

3128
02:28:56,480 --> 02:28:59,760
Speaker 4: Scott when he was the PAC twelve commissioner. I said

3129
02:28:59,800 --> 02:29:01,480
Speaker 4: it part of a panel that he talked to. I

3130
02:29:01,840 --> 02:29:04,240
Speaker 4: know it's painful for Pact twelve people, but he was

3131
02:29:04,280 --> 02:29:07,240
Speaker 4: talking about kickoff times. But he made a really smart

3132
02:29:07,280 --> 02:29:09,959
Speaker 4: point that I've never forgotten when he was talking about

3133
02:29:09,959 --> 02:29:13,560
Speaker 4: the lack of you know, late night football doesn't for

3134
02:29:13,600 --> 02:29:15,160
Speaker 4: college football doesn't have the legs.

3135
02:29:15,480 --> 02:29:17,680
Speaker 5: And I'll never forget this. He said, Look, if we

3136
02:29:17,760 --> 02:29:18,080
Speaker 5: have a.

3137
02:29:18,040 --> 02:29:21,840
Speaker 4: Great touchdown in a late night pack twelve after dark game,

3138
02:29:21,879 --> 02:29:24,160
Speaker 4: if we have a late night touchdown, that's going to

3139
02:29:24,200 --> 02:29:25,959
Speaker 4: be seen by the fans watching the game, But by

3140
02:29:26,000 --> 02:29:28,480
Speaker 4: the next morning when everybody gets up to turn on

3141
02:29:28,520 --> 02:29:31,720
Speaker 4: the TV and see what happened, everybody's already on Sunday

3142
02:29:31,720 --> 02:29:34,800
Speaker 4: morning in NFL preview mode, Fantasy Poowl, NFL, they're in

3143
02:29:34,800 --> 02:29:37,320
Speaker 4: preview mode. He said, if you have a noon kickoff

3144
02:29:37,320 --> 02:29:39,680
Speaker 4: on a game and there's a big touchdown, it gets

3145
02:29:39,680 --> 02:29:43,880
Speaker 4: replayed all day. So it's it's better publicity for the schools,

3146
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:45,920
Speaker 4: it's better for the players. It's part of the reason

3147
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:48,920
Speaker 4: he always felt like West Coast team's got an unfair shake,

3148
02:29:49,040 --> 02:29:50,879
Speaker 4: and people say East Coast spice. I don't think it's

3149
02:29:50,879 --> 02:29:53,400
Speaker 4: that simple. I think part of that was kickoff times.

3150
02:29:53,560 --> 02:29:57,000
Speaker 4: So if they were able to, in this modern environment,

3151
02:29:57,320 --> 02:29:59,920
Speaker 4: give us more kickoffs throughout the week, that would give

3152
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:03,080
Speaker 4: more eyeballs to certain moments where you could stretch the

3153
02:30:03,120 --> 02:30:05,959
Speaker 4: conversation a little bit about some of these great games,

3154
02:30:05,959 --> 02:30:10,160
Speaker 4: because it is inevitable a nine pm Saturday night football game,

3155
02:30:10,200 --> 02:30:12,240
Speaker 4: even if it's two of the best teams in the country.

3156
02:30:12,440 --> 02:30:14,600
Speaker 4: If it's a nine pm Eastern Saturday night game that

3157
02:30:14,640 --> 02:30:17,480
Speaker 4: gets over at midnight, it'll be on one Sports Center

3158
02:30:17,560 --> 02:30:21,000
Speaker 4: type highlight the next morning, and then everybody's onto all

3159
02:30:21,040 --> 02:30:23,480
Speaker 4: of our NFL shows and responsibilities and it's forgotten.

3160
02:30:23,879 --> 02:30:26,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, the problem is you

3161
02:30:26,360 --> 02:30:27,920
Speaker 6: got to put something in that time window.

3162
02:30:28,280 --> 02:30:30,640
Speaker 2: I thought it was college football I would go I

3163
02:30:30,680 --> 02:30:34,280
Speaker 2: would go diving the Friday, and they got it a

3164
02:30:34,320 --> 02:30:40,240
Speaker 2: little bit right, Like I would put a Friday night doubleheader.

3165
02:30:41,160 --> 02:30:43,040
Speaker 3: Every week and make it interesting.

3166
02:30:45,320 --> 02:30:48,560
Speaker 4: You're willing to take on your just willing to obliterate

3167
02:30:48,879 --> 02:30:51,400
Speaker 4: the concept of like high school football though for people

3168
02:30:51,440 --> 02:30:51,600
Speaker 4: in that.

3169
02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:53,360
Speaker 6: Way, right, because that's the reason why they do it

3170
02:30:53,440 --> 02:30:54,560
Speaker 6: or why they don't do it.

3171
02:30:54,879 --> 02:31:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you know, it's it's fine. It'll football will.

3172
02:31:00,760 --> 02:31:03,199
Speaker 3: Have its place in the town. Then that'll be fine.

3173
02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:07,160
Speaker 7: Well tell that when you got to scheduled Texas Tech

3174
02:31:07,240 --> 02:31:09,480
Speaker 7: versus Texas on a Friday night, I'm sure that'll go

3175
02:31:09,520 --> 02:31:10,240
Speaker 7: over very well.

3176
02:31:10,680 --> 02:31:14,640
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, yeah, so be it. I'm gonna,

3177
02:31:15,640 --> 02:31:19,040
Speaker 2: like the NFL says, I want Christmas if I'm college

3178
02:31:19,040 --> 02:31:21,800
Speaker 2: football to me the real estate that's out there's Friday night.

3179
02:31:23,360 --> 02:31:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but then you're losing. I mean, maybe

3180
02:31:26,200 --> 02:31:28,040
Speaker 4: this is two in the weeds out. You know, I'll

3181
02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:31,080
Speaker 4: tell you this. I'm gonna be in Jacksonville at the

3182
02:31:31,200 --> 02:31:34,920
Speaker 4: end of June. Four Arrivals is doing a camp for

3183
02:31:34,959 --> 02:31:37,680
Speaker 4: their five star recruits from high school. So I'm going

3184
02:31:37,720 --> 02:31:39,960
Speaker 4: down there to do some work with Rivals. That's part

3185
02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:42,800
Speaker 4: of Yahoo I'm going to ask the high school kids, like,

3186
02:31:42,840 --> 02:31:45,119
Speaker 4: because my genuine first question is, if you're playing high

3187
02:31:45,120 --> 02:31:47,680
Speaker 4: school games on Friday night, how are you watching those

3188
02:31:47,760 --> 02:31:50,039
Speaker 4: games to fall in love with those teams? Like two

3189
02:31:50,040 --> 02:31:53,000
Speaker 4: teams want to play on Friday night when their prospective

3190
02:31:53,120 --> 02:31:54,800
Speaker 4: players aren't necessarily watching.

3191
02:31:54,840 --> 02:31:56,840
Speaker 3: If not every high school places Friday night.

3192
02:31:57,160 --> 02:31:58,720
Speaker 5: Now that's true, that's true, I think.

3193
02:31:58,720 --> 02:32:00,440
Speaker 2: I mean, they play Jordan, and it's of vane. You

3194
02:32:00,480 --> 02:32:04,240
Speaker 2: don't play Friday afternoon. Some some play Saturday mornings. It

3195
02:32:04,240 --> 02:32:05,120
Speaker 2: all depends.

3196
02:32:06,360 --> 02:32:09,359
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm I'm used to Friday, but that that maybe.

3197
02:32:09,120 --> 02:32:14,240
Speaker 7: I say more than not play Friday evening, Friday afternoon,

3198
02:32:14,320 --> 02:32:18,120
Speaker 7: Friday evening, and in certain circumstances, yes they'll play on Saturdays,

3199
02:32:18,280 --> 02:32:23,080
Speaker 7: but generally speaking, it's i'll speak for southern California, they

3200
02:32:23,080 --> 02:32:23,879
Speaker 7: play Friday night.

3201
02:32:23,920 --> 02:32:29,480
Speaker 6: Still, yeah, yeah, it's Friday night. Yeah.

3202
02:32:29,600 --> 02:32:32,560
Speaker 4: You end up with the NFL on Sunday and in

3203
02:32:32,600 --> 02:32:35,720
Speaker 4: the NFL on Monday. We know that Tuesday is sort

3204
02:32:35,760 --> 02:32:37,560
Speaker 4: of a dead day on a lot of these and

3205
02:32:37,600 --> 02:32:39,160
Speaker 4: then you start to get the action in the.

3206
02:32:39,080 --> 02:32:39,680
Speaker 5: Middle of the week.

3207
02:32:39,720 --> 02:32:41,960
Speaker 4: For college football, Friday is a dead day and then

3208
02:32:41,959 --> 02:32:44,879
Speaker 4: you're back to Saturday, right, so is there logic to

3209
02:32:45,240 --> 02:32:49,199
Speaker 4: filling some of that earlier in the season, probably Thursdays

3210
02:32:49,240 --> 02:32:51,360
Speaker 4: that they're going to want to keep captive for the

3211
02:32:51,360 --> 02:32:55,440
Speaker 4: the the playoff rankings once that, once you get to

3212
02:32:55,440 --> 02:32:57,320
Speaker 4: that point, because that matters a lot to college football.

3213
02:32:57,320 --> 02:32:59,960
Speaker 4: I think one thing that even some of the people

3214
02:33:00,040 --> 02:33:02,320
Speaker 4: around the committee have mentioned before that I don't think

3215
02:33:02,320 --> 02:33:04,000
Speaker 4: a lot of people think about when they say they

3216
02:33:04,040 --> 02:33:06,240
Speaker 4: don't want the committee is that before there was a

3217
02:33:06,240 --> 02:33:09,160
Speaker 4: committee that put out a vote on Thursdays of how

3218
02:33:09,160 --> 02:33:13,600
Speaker 4: everybody stood. The college football conversation just didn't go through

3219
02:33:13,600 --> 02:33:16,560
Speaker 4: the full week on most national media outlets, right, But

3220
02:33:16,920 --> 02:33:19,400
Speaker 4: by having the raging debate of who are the top

3221
02:33:19,440 --> 02:33:22,000
Speaker 4: twelve going to be Thursday and reaction to a Friday,

3222
02:33:22,080 --> 02:33:25,160
Speaker 4: it gets more college football conversation, so they're aware of it.

3223
02:33:25,240 --> 02:33:26,680
Speaker 5: If games could help do it, why not?

3224
02:33:27,800 --> 02:33:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

3225
02:33:29,040 --> 02:33:32,840
Speaker 2: And again I look at it like, listen, you know,

3226
02:33:32,959 --> 02:33:35,520
Speaker 2: I know it's high school. You know we're talking two games,

3227
02:33:35,560 --> 02:33:38,880
Speaker 2: Like the world goes beyond high school football, right like

3228
02:33:38,920 --> 02:33:42,320
Speaker 2: for now I started right, so, like Mike Anthey's going

3229
02:33:42,360 --> 02:33:46,920
Speaker 2: to be a freshman in September, so we're already gearing

3230
02:33:47,040 --> 02:33:49,879
Speaker 2: up and the whole thing but you know howadays, like

3231
02:33:49,879 --> 02:33:51,920
Speaker 2: there's you know, there's a big world out there, and

3232
02:33:51,959 --> 02:33:55,520
Speaker 2: they would want to watch and consume big time college

3233
02:33:55,560 --> 02:33:56,640
Speaker 2: football on a Friday night.

3234
02:33:58,680 --> 02:34:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's and there is something too if

3235
02:34:01,560 --> 02:34:05,720
Speaker 4: you're I used Kansas as an example earlier. If you're Kansas,

3236
02:34:05,720 --> 02:34:08,840
Speaker 4: would you rather have a standalone game where the country seizure?

3237
02:34:08,840 --> 02:34:11,280
Speaker 4: Would you rather just be part of the hodgepodge, part

3238
02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:14,600
Speaker 4: of the castle role of Thanksgiving football?

3239
02:34:14,920 --> 02:34:16,080
Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

3240
02:34:16,080 --> 02:34:18,440
Speaker 7: You're right, But yeah, if you're in Kansas, you absolutely would.

3241
02:34:18,800 --> 02:34:20,320
Speaker 7: But you know, if you're a certain team, like I

3242
02:34:20,360 --> 02:34:22,680
Speaker 7: mentioned Texas earlier, I think you'd rather play on Saturday.

3243
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Speaker 6: I did.

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02:34:23,480 --> 02:34:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're not gonna play Friday Friday night every week.

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02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:26,720
Speaker 3: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 6: And of course you wouldn't.

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02:34:29,920 --> 02:34:32,200
Speaker 4: If you could convince the SEC that they were going

3248
02:34:32,240 --> 02:34:34,760
Speaker 4: to get the biggest game, second biggest game of the

3249
02:34:34,840 --> 02:34:37,720
Speaker 4: week every week was going to be a special Tuesday game.

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Speaker 5: Man, I don't know, Like, if we all knew the

3251
02:34:40,440 --> 02:34:43,760
Speaker 5: SEC game of the week was Tuesday nights, we'd start watching.

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Speaker 3: It, damn straight.

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02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:49,000
Speaker 2: The wit point, like you had these other nights that

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02:34:49,040 --> 02:34:51,760
Speaker 2: are freely you could own the NFL. I don't know

3255
02:34:51,800 --> 02:34:55,440
Speaker 2: why Coyle Football schedule Thursday night games stupid Well, they

3256
02:34:55,440 --> 02:34:57,560
Speaker 2: would have been for years before the NFL jumped in.

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02:34:58,160 --> 02:35:00,320
Speaker 6: Football had dead done it for a long time, I know.

3258
02:35:00,480 --> 02:35:02,880
Speaker 6: But but then but then once the NFL owns, it just

3259
02:35:02,920 --> 02:35:03,520
Speaker 6: back off.

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02:35:03,920 --> 02:35:05,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, move to Wednesday.

3261
02:35:05,680 --> 02:35:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, like NFL owns Thursday, Sunday, Monday and specific holidays. Right,

3262
02:35:14,160 --> 02:35:16,720
Speaker 2: And if I'm college, I go, all right, I got Saturday,

3263
02:35:17,320 --> 02:35:18,800
Speaker 2: can be Tuesday and Friday.

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02:35:19,720 --> 02:35:22,400
Speaker 3: I mean kidding me, It's perfect.

3265
02:35:23,720 --> 02:35:25,680
Speaker 2: And if I'm in the other sports, I'm crying because

3266
02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:30,240
Speaker 2: I'm getting I'm getting no coverage and the poor World

3267
02:35:30,280 --> 02:35:32,440
Speaker 2: Series gonna get coverage at all.

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02:35:32,520 --> 02:35:33,520
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, you're right.

3269
02:35:34,760 --> 02:35:39,520
Speaker 2: Who the Fellas hang it out June first, Oh it

3270
02:35:39,640 --> 02:35:46,160
Speaker 2: means football, It's right right here, Fox Sports Radio Fellas

3271
02:35:48,000 --> 02:35:52,320
Speaker 2: Jason fitz Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Garganto from the tire

3272
02:35:52,480 --> 02:35:57,240
Speaker 2: Raq dot Com studios. Man boys, this show just flew by,

3273
02:35:59,600 --> 02:36:02,039
Speaker 2: bizarre always does.

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02:36:02,640 --> 02:36:03,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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02:36:03,360 --> 02:36:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick quick, All right, show

3276
02:36:08,720 --> 02:36:09,760
Speaker 2: a couple of things here.

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02:36:11,120 --> 02:36:17,320
Speaker 3: Let's let's discuss you know what's interesting, the big.

3278
02:36:18,879 --> 02:36:21,520
Speaker 2: Will either of you guys watched the Champion League Champions

3279
02:36:21,600 --> 02:36:23,920
Speaker 2: League Final, Real Madrid against Dortmund.

3280
02:36:24,840 --> 02:36:27,440
Speaker 4: I might have it on in the background, you know.

3281
02:36:27,560 --> 02:36:31,320
Speaker 4: It's it's something I'm genuinely like. I say this not

3282
02:36:31,360 --> 02:36:35,120
Speaker 4: condescendingly to anybody or anything, like I'm genuinely trying to

3283
02:36:35,160 --> 02:36:36,119
Speaker 4: get into soccer.

3284
02:36:36,240 --> 02:36:40,480
Speaker 5: I really am. It just doesn't connect with my soul yet,

3285
02:36:40,520 --> 02:36:40,720
Speaker 5: you know.

3286
02:36:40,840 --> 02:36:42,400
Speaker 4: So Like I feel like I just got to keep

3287
02:36:42,440 --> 02:36:44,800
Speaker 4: hammering it and like there's gotta be some way. Like

3288
02:36:45,120 --> 02:36:47,600
Speaker 4: I enjoy going to MLS games live. I think they're

3289
02:36:47,600 --> 02:36:49,959
Speaker 4: a blast, like, and I've watched some you know, some

3290
02:36:50,080 --> 02:36:53,800
Speaker 4: of the pre Premier League stuff. But yeah, obviously that's

3291
02:36:53,840 --> 02:36:57,200
Speaker 4: a huge match today, and I mean it should be

3292
02:36:57,280 --> 02:37:00,120
Speaker 4: David versus Claves should be an absolute slaughter. Like I

3293
02:37:00,200 --> 02:37:02,400
Speaker 4: just I want to get into it. I want to

3294
02:37:02,400 --> 02:37:03,480
Speaker 4: love it. I just don't yet.

3295
02:37:04,680 --> 02:37:04,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

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02:37:04,920 --> 02:37:07,640
Speaker 6: The answer is no, it's not that I don't have,

3297
02:37:07,720 --> 02:37:08,959
Speaker 6: you know, interest in soccer.

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02:37:09,000 --> 02:37:09,720
Speaker 5: It's it's fine.

3299
02:37:09,840 --> 02:37:12,360
Speaker 6: I like it. I'll watch if there's nothing else on.

3300
02:37:12,920 --> 02:37:15,080
Speaker 7: Yes, And I know that's blasphemy for a lot of

3301
02:37:15,120 --> 02:37:17,400
Speaker 7: people who are like live and die with it. It's

3302
02:37:17,440 --> 02:37:20,160
Speaker 7: just not a sport that I do. Uh, Like, I

3303
02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:23,440
Speaker 7: do enjoy international soccer. I like watching I love watching

3304
02:37:23,480 --> 02:37:25,200
Speaker 7: the even they play in the Olympics. I love the

3305
02:37:25,200 --> 02:37:28,640
Speaker 7: World Cup, but going out of my way to see

3306
02:37:28,720 --> 02:37:30,879
Speaker 7: to watch an EPO match or Champions League match is

3307
02:37:30,959 --> 02:37:31,959
Speaker 7: just not my It's just.

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02:37:31,840 --> 02:37:32,360
Speaker 6: Not my thing.

3309
02:37:34,360 --> 02:37:39,800
Speaker 2: So the see It's Final, Oh, I agree. I was wondering, like,

3310
02:37:40,360 --> 02:37:42,039
Speaker 2: are you in on the fun because I go, you

3311
02:37:42,080 --> 02:37:45,800
Speaker 2: know what I have? Uh you baseball today? Right, So

3312
02:37:46,520 --> 02:37:50,240
Speaker 2: we've got travel baseball. So I'm I got two games

3313
02:37:50,280 --> 02:37:53,480
Speaker 2: and I don't know I'm gonna be the field all afternoon.

3314
02:37:54,080 --> 02:37:58,360
Speaker 6: So you know, but if I was home and I

3315
02:37:58,920 --> 02:38:00,879
Speaker 6: can see what time of games on, but.

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02:38:00,879 --> 02:38:04,000
Speaker 2: I would watch it because it's you know, timsy Files

3317
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:04,480
Speaker 2: a big.

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02:38:04,320 --> 02:38:07,320
Speaker 6: Deal, right, Yeah, it is.

3319
02:38:08,879 --> 02:38:09,400
Speaker 5: Just not for me.

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02:38:18,480 --> 02:38:19,280
Speaker 6: I guess what.

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02:38:19,560 --> 02:38:22,440
Speaker 7: I appreciate that, like you know what, like it's I

3322
02:38:22,520 --> 02:38:25,119
Speaker 7: would I would watch the Tigers play the Reds before.

3323
02:38:25,120 --> 02:38:27,039
Speaker 7: I probably watched that in the final, let's put it

3324
02:38:27,040 --> 02:38:32,119
Speaker 7: that way. And has no disrespect, that's just how what are.

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02:38:32,000 --> 02:38:36,879
Speaker 2: You watching, FITZI are you if I Tigers Reds or

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02:38:37,320 --> 02:38:39,320
Speaker 2: the Real Madrid.

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02:38:38,879 --> 02:38:41,240
Speaker 5: Dortmund Real Madrid Dortmund.

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02:38:41,520 --> 02:38:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean one hundred percent unless I have like

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02:38:45,560 --> 02:38:48,160
Speaker 4: but again, either of those things live, I would I

3330
02:38:48,200 --> 02:38:50,800
Speaker 4: would prioritize but if it's just a TV moment, Yeah, no,

3331
02:38:50,879 --> 02:38:53,440
Speaker 4: I'm not turning on Tiger's reds. There's no chance this

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02:38:53,600 --> 02:38:57,039
Speaker 4: weekend to preemptively answer your question. I mean, there's nothing

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02:38:57,080 --> 02:39:01,680
Speaker 4: better than tonight. You got Rangers at Florida, Game six

3334
02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:05,760
Speaker 4: in this Stanley Cup, the conference final. But I really

3335
02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:08,800
Speaker 4: really need New York to win so that they can

3336
02:39:08,879 --> 02:39:12,160
Speaker 4: go back to Game seven at the Garden and lose,

3337
02:39:12,600 --> 02:39:14,880
Speaker 4: so that the Nixon Rangers can both have had their

3338
02:39:14,959 --> 02:39:17,840
Speaker 4: ripped their hearts ripped out in Game seven in the Garden,

3339
02:39:17,959 --> 02:39:20,800
Speaker 4: so we can finally just end all of the conversation

3340
02:39:20,879 --> 02:39:21,360
Speaker 4: we always have.

3341
02:39:21,320 --> 02:39:24,080
Speaker 5: About one and Game seven in the Garden's gonna be magic,

3342
02:39:24,160 --> 02:39:26,120
Speaker 5: cool nose. Not You're gonna get your ass kick go

3343
02:39:26,240 --> 02:39:30,080
Speaker 5: back to the Garden and lose there. That's why. And

3344
02:39:30,160 --> 02:39:32,440
Speaker 5: I have a Madison Square Garden tattooed on my arm.

3345
02:39:32,560 --> 02:39:35,120
Speaker 4: So miss me with everybody that's coming in now and

3346
02:39:35,200 --> 02:39:37,360
Speaker 4: saying like I got something against Arena, I just think

3347
02:39:37,400 --> 02:39:39,640
Speaker 4: that we may be over hype certain things in sports,

3348
02:39:39,680 --> 02:39:43,240
Speaker 4: including the home field or home court home ice advantage

3349
02:39:43,280 --> 02:39:44,240
Speaker 4: of Madison Square guard.

3350
02:39:44,320 --> 02:39:46,080
Speaker 7: Well, if you ever walk back and within those walls

3351
02:39:46,120 --> 02:39:48,480
Speaker 7: and James dolanos you're there. He's gonna have you thrown

3352
02:39:48,520 --> 02:39:50,320
Speaker 7: out just like he did Charles Oakley, or at least

3353
02:39:50,360 --> 02:39:50,640
Speaker 7: try to.

3354
02:39:51,000 --> 02:39:54,240
Speaker 3: Oh that was the bad he tried to get old.

3355
02:39:54,360 --> 02:39:55,200
Speaker 6: I mean, what do I mean?

3356
02:39:55,240 --> 02:39:58,520
Speaker 7: That was unbelievable or for that reason, that's the reason

3357
02:39:58,520 --> 02:39:59,600
Speaker 7: why I want the Rangers to lose.

3358
02:39:59,600 --> 02:40:01,160
Speaker 6: I don't want James Dolan winning anything.

3359
02:40:01,200 --> 02:40:03,560
Speaker 5: How about that I used to lose it home though

3360
02:40:03,879 --> 02:40:04,119
Speaker 5: it home?

3361
02:40:04,120 --> 02:40:05,800
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I have his sting a little bit fits.

3362
02:40:05,800 --> 02:40:06,160
Speaker 6: I'm with you.

3363
02:40:07,360 --> 02:40:09,640
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think we all agree there. Don't go

3364
02:40:09,840 --> 02:40:14,680
Speaker 2: the rate Jets. Yeah, fellas, listen, thanks for hagging everybody.

3365
02:40:14,720 --> 02:40:17,119
Speaker 2: We love you guys. Have a great week and see

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Speaker 2: you next week.