1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of four, 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Hunger. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, practicing physician and blogger. On 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: the side, we are two working parents who love our 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode sixty one. Today Sarah 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: and I are going to be talking about our lists 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: of one hundred dreams, which if anyone listening to this 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: has read my book one hundred and sixty eight Hours, 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: you'll know that this is a list that I recommend making. 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: I got the idea from a career coach named Caroline 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Siniza Levine that she had her clients do this exercise, 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: and it's a list of basically anything you might want 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: to spend more time doing in your life to gold's hobbies, travel, 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, any sort of things that you dream about 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: having in your life, and the reason to go all 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: the way to one hundred is that the first third 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: is pretty easy. Like, you know, people want to travel more, 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: so they start listing, you know, the twenty countries they 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: want to visit, and then there's the hobbies they've been 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: telling themselves for years they don't have time to do. 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Is that, you know, you get to thirty thirty five 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: pretty easy, But after that it starts getting a little 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: bit more complicated, and so you really have to think 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: about it, and you start listing all kinds of things 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: and some of these are you know, going to take 31 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: years to accomplish or maybe will never happen. Others you 32 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: can do more immediately. And so it's good to have 33 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: a balance because then it starts answering this question of well, 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: what should I do with my time? And often I 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: find that people have a lot going on in their lives, 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: sometimes have a story that, oh, well, I don't have 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: any time, so I don't really have to think about 38 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: what to do with my time. But the problem is 39 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: when we don't think about what to do with our time, 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: than when time appears, we spend it in the most 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: effortless way possible, which tends to be scrolling around on Instagram, 42 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: puttering around the house reading. Instagram did not exist when 43 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: you that's trick to it. You know, Facebook was around, 44 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: Twitter was around, you know, relatively early Twitter stage. But 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: the people have always managed to waste time. But I 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: wrote about this in one hundred and sixty eight hours. 47 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: It turns out that there was a reader of one 48 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight hours who was inspired to make 49 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: such a list. Yeah. So, actually, I mean, I think 50 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: that's how we kind of found each other, right, I 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: read one hundred and sixty eight hours. I found it 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: really interesting and inspiring, and then I found your blog, 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: and then I think you found my blog because I 54 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: commented on your blog, and then we kind of were 55 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: reading each other's blogs for a lot of years before meeting. 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: But I didn't really remember all those details. What I 57 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: did remember vaguely is having written this list. So I 58 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: searched my blog for one hundred dreams, and I found 59 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: this gem of a photo I took grainy photo from 60 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: some non iPhone in twenty ten of a partial list, 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: and it was so funny and fascinating to see what 62 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: I had on there. And then I also found a 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen list, which so it's really interesting. It's like 64 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: every four years, right, and clearly I was at a 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: very different place with each of those lists. Twenty ten, 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: I had no children, although I had references to that 67 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: on the list. In twenty fourteen, I had Annabelle and 68 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: Cameron was a baby. So, you know, when Laura thought 69 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: of the idea for this episode, delving back was my 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: first instinct, and it was just very fun and interesting. 71 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: So we'll share some of the stuff. And then we 72 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: both decided that maybe it was time for us to 73 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: create new lists, and that a fun podcast episode would 74 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: be sharing some of the elements that we came up with, 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: maybe some of the more unusual elements with you all, 76 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: to see if it inspires anyone else to make such 77 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: a list. And I will say that I think that 78 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty eight hours is a really you know, 79 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: interesting and inspiring read, even now, yes eight years later, 80 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: nine years later, So if you haven't checked that out, 81 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: I really do think it's a worthwhile read. Thank you 82 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: very much. I appreciate that you what did you have 83 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: on the twenty ten list or in the twenty fourteen 84 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: list that you've now done or you know, made an 85 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: executive decision to get off the list. You don't care 86 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: about it anymore. Well, my twenty ten list, some of 87 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 1: the big highlights were become an end of chronology, attending 88 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: in a part time position, Check, have three children, and again, 89 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: at the time of writing this, I had zero children. Check, 90 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: go on dates with Josh. That's a really odd one, 91 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: and I I'm like, wasn't that already happening? But okay, Check? 92 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to be in a book or dinner party club. Yes, 93 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: I am in a you know, two book clubs, and 94 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: one of them kind of is a dinner party club 95 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: because you do it over dinner. Those are things that 96 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: did happen. I also said have a housekeeper, which is 97 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: not totally true, but I do now outsource a lot 98 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: of my housekeeping, so I guess that did come true. 99 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: Things that didn't come true are learn Spanish, write a 100 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: book about residency and med school, takes trips with and 101 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: without the kids to New Zealand, Sweden, Japan, let the 102 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: kids choose. I mean, that could still happen and we'll 103 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: talk about my future list. And spend at least four 104 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: days a week with children. So I mean I spent 105 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: seven days a week with children. But I think I 106 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: meant at home. So that's very fascinating to see what 107 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: my old self thought. Because your old self thought you 108 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: would do a three day a week job, not a 109 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: four day a week job. Guess there was one point 110 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: when I thought that, and I mean, yeah, I don't 111 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: think that's I think my four day a week plus 112 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: really four and a half at this point, now that 113 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: I do some other things, is good. Is good for now? 114 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: I mean I don't feel in my current situation like, 115 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, I need one more day at home 116 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: with the kids. I think that that would dilute my 117 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: medical side more than I want to. So I guess 118 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: I am in the end working even actually a little 119 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: more than I thought, although less than perhaps average. But 120 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: and then the twenty fourteen one, though you revisited it, 121 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: did you wind up with a lot of the same 122 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: stuff on there, or had you know life progressed enough 123 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: that it well, I had already had two kids, and 124 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: I think at that point I thought I was done. 125 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: So the twenty fourteen list had a little bit more specific, 126 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: like trips and items, some of which came true and 127 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: some of which didn't. Unless big picture things. Some of 128 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: the things that I did accomplish were try a bar 129 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: class and I went through a big fly bar and 130 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: then bar three phase after that. So there you go. 131 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: See Arcade Fire in concert, which I saw last year. 132 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: It was great. Eat it French Laundry, which with a 133 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: lot of effort, I got us a reservation in twenty 134 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: sixteen and we went for our tenth anniversary. Adopt a 135 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: peaceful nighttime routine that does not involve technology. Actually, I 136 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: would say in general I have accomplished that. I think 137 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: I met with the kids bedtime and not having them, 138 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, with the phone that. Remember how I talked 139 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: about how I didn't like that Annabelle would have to 140 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: watch something anyway. So I feel like that's that's the 141 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: way I want it. And then I think some of 142 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: these are kind of funny. Listen to all the music 143 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: we own? Well, I mean, does anyone own music anymore? Actually, 144 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure people are gonna write, yes, I own music 145 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: and I love it, and I see value in that. 146 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: But I don't actually own any music anymore, So that 147 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: is no longer something that's accomplishable. Run another marathon and 148 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: qualify for Boston definitely hasn't happened yet. Go on a 149 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: wardrobe makeover spree. With a personal shopper. I mean, does 150 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 1: trunk club count? And then finally sleep through the night again? 151 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: Which did happen and then it didn't. Yeah, that's the 152 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: reality of adding the third kid. So sometimes the dreams 153 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: are at opposition to each other, right, yes, definitely, but 154 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: that's okay. It's all figuring out where the priorities lie. 155 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was a lot. That was a lot, 156 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: and I mean I left out a lot of that 157 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: because these lists can get quite long, as is the point. 158 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: So Laura, tell me a little bit. Did you find 159 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: any old lists on paper or on typed Yeah, I 160 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: mean I've I've posted them on my blog and you know, 161 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: some of this stuff is fairly similar time to time 162 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: because I haven't done it yet. You know, I still 163 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: want to go to Portugal, which I have not been 164 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: to Portugal. I would like to go the Greek Islands, 165 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: and I have not been to the Greek Islands yet. 166 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: But you know, some I'm thinking about doing a little 167 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: bit more. I can't remember if I put eating at 168 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: Noma in Denmark on the list in the past. I 169 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: know it's on the list now, but I actually looked 170 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: at the reservation system to figure out when I could 171 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: put in a reservation for summer of twenty nineteen because 172 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: we're thinking about doing a family Scandinavia trip. Oh my gosh, 173 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: land in Denmark. There's you know, lots of fun, so 174 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: it was a very family friendly place to travel. And 175 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: my husband lived in Norway for five years, so we'd 176 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: go see some of the stuff from his time there 177 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: as well, so you know, some of the stuff is 178 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: the same from time to time. But I made the list, 179 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, a new list over the past month or two, 180 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: and so I knew we were doing this podcast. I'll 181 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: probably post it on my blog. Anything on the old 182 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: list specifically that didn't make the new list, that's interesting. Well, 183 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: I had put I should watch Casablanca just because it's 184 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: like the most famous movie of all times, and I haven't, 185 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, and I realized, like, maybe I just don't 186 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: really want to. I'm sure we're gonna have people writing 187 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: and be like it's the most amazing movie ever, and 188 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is. But I, you know, clearly, in 189 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: six eight years, if I had wanted to watch it, 190 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I could. Yeah, that's pretty it's pretty 191 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: low hanging fruit, low fruit, So that is just not 192 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: on there. I had actually also put that I wanted 193 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: to teach writing somewhere, and as I've thought about it, 194 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: I realized, I actually don't know that I do want 195 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: to teach writing somewhere. I I sort of, you know, 196 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: glorify this idea of like the college creative writing professor, 197 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: but I realized, like I'd be reading student papers, which 198 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, may or may not be all that wonderful 199 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: thing to do. It takes time away from actual writing, 200 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: and I feel like in my life I'm not doing 201 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: enough time writing as it is. All the other aspects 202 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: of running my business sometimes crowd that out, and that 203 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: would be another thing there, crowded out. And I also 204 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: realized I've gotten a few notices in the past, you know, 205 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: two decades since leaving college, of like various professors who 206 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: have stopped teaching. And it's often that they have some 207 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: book that's a huge commercial success, and what it is 208 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: is they don't need to anymore. So it's like, well, 209 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: if you've got a situation where financially you don't actually 210 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: have to have a full time job of something else, 211 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, then that's maybe something that's less important. And 212 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if maybe You're kind of fulfilling that need 213 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: because you do a lot of educational type work already. 214 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: As a speaker. You you teach a lot. You teach 215 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: in your books. You teach about time management. Maybe you 216 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: have more passion there than about teaching on the craft 217 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: of writing. Yeah, I think I still would like to 218 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: share my various strategies for you know, writing in some way, 219 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: shape or form. But I'm also realizing that, you know, 220 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: I can share tips on my blog. Maybe I'll write 221 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: like a short ebook, as I say, or book proposal, 222 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, other things you pick up over the years 223 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: that I think might be helpful for people. But it's also, yeah, 224 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's gone down, you know, off 225 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: the list. It's it's not something I put on this time. 226 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: But as I was making it, the upside of making 227 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: a new list is that, you know, you do start 228 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: doing some of the really low hanging fruit that you 229 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: put on the list. So I put on my list 230 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: that I wanted to do more outside morning runs. I mean, 231 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: I love to run in the morning, and I love 232 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: to run outside, and you know, definitely I like running 233 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: outside much better than the treadmill when I'm doing it. 234 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: On the tremill. I find it really hard to go 235 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: more than two miles because I just get incredibly bored. 236 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: And you know, so it's just for whatever reason logistically 237 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: hard to run in the morning outside. Either it's because 238 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, if my husband's traveling then I'm the only 239 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: adult here in the house during some mornings in the week. 240 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: But even if he's here, then sometimes I've stayed up 241 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: later with him, and so I don't feel like getting 242 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: up in the morning. You know, it's just all these excuses. 243 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: So I just put it on the list, and then 244 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, I realize, like, I'm not going to do 245 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: this every day, right, But I always tell people don't 246 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: think in terms of every day, Like could I do 247 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: once a week at least do some sort of morning runouts. Well, sure, 248 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: I definitely can make that happen, and you know, probably 249 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: twice a week if I've identified this as something I 250 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: want to do, so you know, I do that. And 251 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: the same thing I put like other things on this 252 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: list as I was making it, like redo guest room, 253 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: Well we just did that. We've decided to go for it, 254 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: and so we have a new you know, some new furniture, 255 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: new betting. It looks a lot better, you know, buy 256 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: a new rain coat. Well, that was pretty easy to 257 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: pull off. Schedule this. This can take that sort of 258 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: nagging thought that kind of itches your brain and then 259 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: goes away into something that's concretely there, and then you're 260 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: not going to forget about how it's really good about doing. 261 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: I realized I had all this stuff about, like, you know, 262 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: being outside in October with the changing leaves. I'm like, wait, 263 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, let me look, because I can do this 264 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: now that September, you know, in August, September I was 265 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: doing this. Look at my calendar for October? Can I 266 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: protect some days? Right? Like? Can I look at days 267 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: that either have only one thing on them or currently 268 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: don't have anything on them and just decide that I'm 269 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: going to block that off, Like I'm not going to 270 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: offer that time up easily. So you know, if I 271 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: have to do something like it's the only day and 272 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: it's something I really want to do, sure, but like 273 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: don't just you know, oh sure I could do that. 274 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: Then you know, oh, I'm going to add fall leaves 275 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: to my list. Sea follows. Yeah, I'm not sure how 276 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: many are in Miami. That's good point. I need to 277 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: take a trip, but I need to I need to 278 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: have identified that. See and now you said it, and 279 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's doable. Well there are You got me? 280 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: So you know that's that's the upside of the list. 281 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: So all right, Sarah, what's what's on the current list? 282 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: We're going to trade off back, Yes, we're going to 283 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: trade off, and we were going to try to we're 284 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: trying to choose. You know, there's some more obvious ones 285 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: on there, but we're trying to fix some go to 286 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: New zeal all right, ready for Okay, No, I just 287 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: wanted to pick a deliberately controversial one for my first one. 288 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: Ready ready, ready, ready, ready have a completely con marrid home. Yes, 289 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: it's my bucket list. That is not not on my list, 290 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: So we'll see if that ever happens. I think the 291 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: children will be much older by the time that's accomplished. 292 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: But man, I would I really do have the yearning 293 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: to live in a place that I feel like every 294 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: item has been vetted. Whether that's possible or not, we'll 295 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: find out. Well, it can keep going on the list, 296 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: probably a year after year, because exactly it really happened, exactly, 297 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: all right. Number one, Well, not number one. Well, so 298 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: I organize these into different sections. So in my section, 299 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: I have write a very long work of fiction, like 300 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: a doorstop of an epic. Wow, oh how interesting. I mean. 301 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: I like writing fiction, and I have this, you know 302 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: parable coming out in March. It's Juliette School of Possibilities. 303 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Is a very short work of fiction. But I write it. 304 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: Somebody sent me an article. I wish i'd call it 305 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: The Details, but some woman had written about how writing very, 306 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: very long books is almost exclusively the province of male writers, 307 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: and there are various reasons for that. But I've read 308 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: some of the you know, existing very long books by 309 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: women like Kristin Labrinsader Middle March, and you know, I'm 310 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to write anything of that quality, obviously, 311 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: But I could write a very long book, and I 312 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: would like to. I would like to really spend years 313 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: on a project like that. I love that. And I 314 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: will say some of the longest books I have read 315 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: have been the most memorable, because when you're with something 316 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: like that, you know you can't You're going to dedicate. 317 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: It's not going to be gone in three days that 318 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: you can forget about it, even if the material wasn't 319 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: necessarily that memorable. You are stuck with it because of 320 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: the sheer length of time that you spent with it. 321 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: So I think that's a great goal. Yeah, you're in 322 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: that world for a long time. All right, what do 323 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: you have next? Here is a blog one. I would 324 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: like to grow my blog. Even though blogs are a 325 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: thing of the past, it doesn't matter. Grow my website, 326 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: let's put it that way. To let's say at least 327 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand pageviews a month. I'm not that far 328 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: from that now, So I feel like that's a doable 329 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: primary goal, and then maybe I could go from there. Yeah. No, 330 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: I think that's a great goal. I don't have This 331 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: isn't now on the list, but I was thinking about 332 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: this now. You know, the podcast i'd love to, you know, 333 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: had a million downloads by our second annivers rate, which 334 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: I think is entirely doable. We're pretty much getting to 335 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: that level of weekly downloads that we would cross that 336 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: if we con Yes, I did have a podcast goal 337 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: to of ten thousand downloads per episode, so come on, everyone, 338 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: but we're already getting ten thousand download close per week. 339 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: So it's just that's Heremula. We are people are downloading 340 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: previous episodes, and so as the first episodes go up 341 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: in traffic, you know it's not there in terms of 342 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: average one, but you know it will be like we're 343 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: getting that many. No, definitely, definitely. I purposely made them 344 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: not like super high in the sky high numbers, but 345 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: like that's you and me. Our goal setting are like, 346 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: it's something that's doable. Maybe a slight reach, but doable. 347 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: We like this. Give me one of your goals that's 348 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: not so doable. As a counterpoint, oh well, I don't 349 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: know that I have any that aren't doable. I mean, yeah, 350 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: I'd like to hit the New York Times bestseller list, which, 351 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: oh that's good. You know, I'd like to think. I 352 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: think it's doing a little bit. I think that's a 353 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: high goal. You know it's a high goal, but I 354 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: think it's it's at some point in my life. One 355 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: one that's a practical another career one. I want to 356 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: form a writer's strategy group. We I had one going 357 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: for a while in New York, and then many of 358 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: us moved. I've enjoyed watching everyone's careers go since then. 359 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: But there's enough Philadelphia writers you could have a local one. 360 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: We have a local one, but you know, it would 361 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: be people who probably have written, you know, books and 362 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: are really doing this as their their job, because then 363 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: that's where the career strategy sort of stuff comes in 364 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: that you know, how do you pivot from one book 365 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: to the next, and you know what other channels do 366 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: you look at? So yeah, i'd like to I'd like 367 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: to do that. Cool. Well, one of my probably maybe 368 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: not as doable ones, but I kind of want to 369 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: try at some point, is well, I definitely want to 370 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: run another marathon, and if possible, when my kids are 371 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: older and have more time to train, I think it 372 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: would be fun to legitimately qualify for Boston. I'm not 373 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: that talented. I don't know that it would happen, but 374 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: I think I'd be satisfied with like just trying hard 375 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: and coming close, like making me a good attempt, and 376 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: if you make it on your attempt, then you can 377 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: like be a charity runner for Boston, right. Oh yeah, 378 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: because I totally money to buy your way in, yes, 379 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: and so do it so you get yourself close and 380 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: then you can do it so you get the pay. 381 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: I'd be like, you know what, close enough I'm giving 382 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: myself an honorary pass and honorari money. Good backup, I 383 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: like that one. So I have one of going to 384 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Portland and Oregon wine country, but we're actually doing that. 385 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: I know that's coming up. So that's so that's very exciting. Well, 386 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: we went to one vineyard. We would have gone to 387 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: more when we were there, and it was gorgeous and 388 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: I will have to let you know which ones you 389 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: went to. I mean, we, you know, buy wine from Oregon. 390 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I've been to the nap some of 391 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: the Napos to Noma places, but I and I really 392 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: enjoyed that. So yeah, looking it's part of the country 393 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: I haven't really seen as much. I've been to Seattle 394 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: a few times, but not south of there. So well, 395 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: as it was one of my recent love of the weeks, 396 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: I would say, don't just wine country. The city of 397 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: Portland's awesome. Okay, there's a lot to do there. Yeah, 398 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: there's really good ice cream there, salt and straw built 399 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: in Okay, this is why you do this. You share them, 400 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: right and then people know. Okay, writing it down, Okay, 401 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: what do you have my I have a random travel 402 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: goal that should be very doable. Ready, okay, visit stationary 403 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: stores whenever I go to a new city. I love it. Oh, 404 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: I love it. And Bogel talked on her podcast about 405 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: going to you know, bookstores in her city and that 406 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: was like her thing, and I realized, I love to 407 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: go to little boutique stationary stores, and particularly if they 408 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: have like an Asian like there's this Japanese stationary store 409 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia that I love, So I have that one doable. 410 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: I would make me so happy. That sounds awesome. So 411 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: I've thought another travel goal of At first I was 412 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: just a see a Shakespeare play in I'm Stratford on Avon, 413 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: so I actually see, you know, in in his area 414 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: a play there. But then I was realizing there's all 415 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: sorts I'd like to just do a litter a tour 416 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: of Great Britain. I want to more so even than that, 417 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: I want to read to the Lighthouse while I'm on 418 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: the Isle of Sky. I you know, there's all sorts 419 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: of other literary places in the UK. And then I tried, well, 420 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: why don't I try it and do maybe a music 421 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: tour of Germany that I want to see where Bach 422 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: composed his stuff, and maybe I could hear a bach 423 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: piece in his Uh was it leaps Leipzig or I 424 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: just butchered that? I'm sure that's okay. I think it's 425 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: a great idea, like the idea of taking one passion 426 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: and kind of combining it with travel to make this 427 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: kind of all time big experience. I'm not sure I 428 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: have anything like that on the list, although you know 429 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned Scandinavia. I do have Denmark on there because 430 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: I've read The Year Living danishly and I find it 431 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: the country culturally fascinating. So I have that on my 432 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: travel list as well. Okay, in Japan. Japan for similar reasons, well, 433 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: because you yes, you're yes, I'm as surprised have a 434 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: good friend from there, and I know it is the will. 435 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: When would I have fit that in? Come on? I 436 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: mean maybe like it's going to happen, but at some 437 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: point it was just the trip for the year or something. 438 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a well, the I mean the 439 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: interesting part about, like you know, having the financial means 440 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: to do that coincided with having a lot of young 441 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: children in our particular case, so the big trips we 442 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: haven't quite made happen yet. But I actually think we're 443 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: kind of right on the cusp of being able to 444 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: do some very exciting things both as a family and 445 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: as a couple. Not that we couldn't have done it before, 446 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: but my style is maybe again, make things a little 447 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: easier and and do it when it feels right. Yeah, no, 448 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: I think that's It would be hard to take toddlers 449 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: to Japan for just many reasons. The six year olds though, 450 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: do aix year old? Yeah, I mean the jet leg 451 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: is pretty brutal with Asia. Like I you know, you 452 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night a lot, 453 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: and so you're already sleep deprived with an infant. It's 454 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: really hard. But obviously that people have extended family, they're 455 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: like visit all the time. That's so you know, whatever doable. 456 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: That's why my roommate from Tokyo used to sleep for 457 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: about two weeks back to school. I'm not sure it 458 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: was helpful academically, but she was a great like night owl, 459 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: so it worked out. It worked out for her. So 460 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: this one I have is not travel related. I wanted 461 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: to brush up on botany and learn the names of 462 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 1: more plants and trees. Partly it helps with writing, like 463 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: doing fiction, like knowing the names of plants and trees, 464 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: like allows you to give detail for a place that 465 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: is hard to do otherwise. But also, I mean, every 466 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: time you're out in the woods, if you know what 467 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: tree you're looking at, it's it's just I feel like 468 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: it's more familiar than you feel more at home in 469 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: the woods where you know the names of every tree. 470 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: I took a botany class in high school, and the 471 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: trees and plants that I know now are all from that. 472 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: I realized, like I could study more of this. I 473 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: could read more about trees and plants, and you know, 474 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: so I know like what color that tree will turn 475 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: in the fall, for instance. I think that would be 476 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: kind of a cool bit of knowledge to have, very 477 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: cool on my learning or skills. And I would say 478 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: I have revisit the violin and piano since I played both, 479 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: and I also think it would be fun. So I 480 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: sing also, not in the coral way that I mean 481 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: I used to, not anymore, but I'd like to do 482 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: a performance with my husband, who is now like getting 483 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: really good at guitar. So that would be listening to 484 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: You'd be like the coffee house couple acoustic guitar and singing, 485 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: Oh that's our retirement plan. That's that's awesome. Yeah, to 486 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of weddings. So yeah, learning learning ones are 487 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: always a good one. Yeah. I put take voice lessons 488 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: for similar I mean, I am spending a lot of 489 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: time singing. Maybe it'd be Yeah, you should totally do that. 490 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: And also very low hanging fruit because if you find 491 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: a music studio that one of your kids can go to, 492 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: you can sign yourself up. I actually have a lot 493 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: of friends who have like restarted piano because their kids 494 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: are now at the age of they're doing piano and 495 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: they just do lessons at the same time. Oh that's nice. Yeah, 496 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: and that would be pretty convenient to make that happen. 497 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: Hanging fru Okay, what else do you have I would like, Well, 498 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: on the work side of things, I think at some 499 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: point I would like to lead a pediatric interchronology division. 500 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't know where if it's going to be, you know, 501 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: years and years down the road where I am now. 502 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: I think that would be really cool, and I'd like 503 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: to I'd like to reduce my time on call to 504 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: six weeks per year or less. I think that seems 505 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: like a reasonable bar to set at some point, and 506 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: I'd like to become a little bit more involved in 507 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: process improvement, like not just doing the care, but figuring 508 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: out how to make the care run better, because I think, 509 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, I really have a lot of interest in 510 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: efficiency and planning and that kind of thing, and I 511 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: think I could actually apply those interests pretty well to 512 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: my with my work expertise to create some change there. Yeah, certainly. 513 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: And I mean I know that a lot of medicine 514 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: is sort of done in certain ways just because it's 515 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: always been done in certain ways, and I know you 516 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: have strong feelings about some of those ways, So that 517 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: would be that would be great. Make your mark on that. Yeah, 518 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: my next one sounds pretty, uh, you know, not serious 519 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: compared to that. But I want to build and decorate 520 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: a really nice dollhouse. I used to be really into 521 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: dollhouse and dollhouse furniture, and I've always enjoyed visiting like 522 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: miniature the miniature rooms at the Art Institute of Chicago. 523 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: I went to see the Queen Mary's Rooms at Windsor Castle. 524 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's theoretically it's something you could do 525 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: with like my six year old daughter, but I don't 526 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: want to do it that way. Like I actually want 527 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: a nice non toy dollhouse. And so then it's kind 528 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: of about having kids old enough to not play with it, 529 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: unless you wait until your daughter is old enough to 530 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: treat it with the respect, or one of your sons. Yes, 531 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: I would say, I'm not worried about her. I mean, 532 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: although there's plenty of you know, barbies with their haircut off, 533 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: But you're worried about the young I'm worried about the 534 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: younger one. It can always be a secret dollhouse. Yeah, yeah, 535 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: you have enough in your house to give you like this, 536 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: like sounds kind of creepy. I don't know the secret 537 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: dellhouse I have in the basement storage area. Yeah, no, 538 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: I would have to go visit it, but no, I 539 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: don't think so that's so funny. I want to have 540 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: a wine storage area and a more curated wine collection 541 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: at some point, and with wine that's like stored at 542 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: the right temperature like that. Yeah. Yeah, so that's what 543 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: fifty seven degrees or something like that, I think. Yeah, 544 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I would have to research, but 545 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: I know those little cabinets are not that terribly expensive. 546 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: Like this also is a doable goal. Yeah, although well, 547 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: the rooms themselves then wind up being pretty expensive. Though 548 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: partly that's you know, how much wine are you buying 549 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: to fill it? Right? Because if you're buying, you know, 550 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: five hundred bottles. Oh no, I was thinking on a 551 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: very minimal scale, like a little half of a closet's 552 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: worth kind of a thing. Yeah. I do have a 553 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: friend who has like he actually has like outside storage facilities, 554 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: Like we visited his wine. Like that is another level 555 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: that I well, but you need to get here much 556 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: and is expensive enough. Then it becomes this questions of 557 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: a you need special insurance because you know your your 558 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: normal homeowners insurance isn't going to cover that because but 559 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: if the if the power goes out, for instance, then 560 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: you know your your wine that's being capped at fifty 561 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: seven degrees can be ruined. Yeah, and imagine if but 562 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: if you have like decades old bottles that are like 563 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: historical going through like these freeze though slash war Oh 564 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: my gosh, Yeah, that's true. That makes sense. Yeah, all right, 565 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 1: let's just do like two more and we may use 566 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: this as blog fodder as well. You know, I don't 567 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: know if Sarah wants to post her as I might 568 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: wind up posting mine, So I have one about Christmas. 569 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: I want to make some Christmas ornaments, decorate my whole 570 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: house really nicely for Christmas, and also visit some other 571 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: like really lovely Christmas decorated homes. I don't know, I've 572 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: got this thing about it would be fun to have 573 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: seasonal decorations. It's not really something I naturally do, so 574 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: that's why it's on this list. I okay, I'm gonna 575 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: throw out two actually, so one is a I have 576 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: no idea if I'm ever going to be in position 577 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: to do this, but I'd like to take a year 578 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: long sabbatical. Whoa you know, might as well aim high, 579 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: So I think that would be really cool until like, right, 580 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. My husband has crazy fantasies of going 581 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: to another country for a year, so that seems like 582 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 1: it would be a perfect opportunity. We'll see if that 583 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: fits into my practical life, but I might as well 584 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: keep it on the list. And then finally, I also 585 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: have like a little streaks section, So I would love 586 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: to complete a journal every day for a year, meditate 587 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: every day for a year, and phlos every day for 588 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: a year. I'm not sure why it would be satisfying 589 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: to do these things in streaks. But there you go. 590 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: So I'm really curious about the flossing because I feel 591 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: like you mentioned that, and if not even it, it's 592 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: not even in the vein of self improvement at this point. 593 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: It's more just like or like health. It's more just like, 594 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: can I freaking do it? After all these it doesn't 595 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: seem like that unpleasant. I'm really curious why that doesn't 596 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: happen with getting analyze that one. It does happen sometimes, 597 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: I just don't find the ability to happen consistently, and 598 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: it's because I'm a much better person. Well, actually, I 599 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: could probably answer my own question if I do it 600 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 1: at night, and I'm like a bad person at night, 601 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: like I'm too tired, I don't want to do anything. 602 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: So maybe if I just moved it to the morning, 603 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: probably would be sage machine exactly. Hmmm. All right, well, okay, 604 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: Well my last one I'm going to share here is 605 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: I want to get some really nice pajamas. Like this 606 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: pajama game is so sad right now. I have to 607 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: figure out ones I like because I don't actually like 608 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: those like fuzzy ones all that much, or like the 609 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: ones they sell us sets in department stores, and that 610 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: tends to be the ones I wind up with, and 611 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: then I don't really like them all that much. So 612 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: I got to figure out what it is I would 613 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: like to sleep in, and then then maybe I could 614 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: aim for like some really nice version of that. I 615 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: think that that is so doable and it will improve 616 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: your quality of life and you'll be so happy to 617 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: check it off. So I'm I'm gonna choose that one 618 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: to follow up on, all right, all right, and if 619 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: we have listeners who have a favorite brand of pajamas 620 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: that maybe very luxurious but also very sleepable, because I 621 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: can't sleep in it, Like, what's the point? Yeah, I 622 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: would love recommendations, so right in with that? Awesome? All right, Well, 623 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: we are going to head into our Q and A. 624 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: And this was This was inspired by a blog post 625 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: that I wrote recently where I was I know, I 626 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, this has just been a year, and I 627 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: vacillate between Okay, I've got this, I love this, this 628 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: is wonderful, and oh my god, I'm so overwhelmed and 629 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: overloaded that I just don't even know what to do. 630 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: And this was after one of those latter posts and 631 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: I love that you know this about yourself though, because 632 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: once you wrote this blog post of like outlining what 633 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: your blog looked like for the year, you're like happy, happy, happy, 634 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: other utter dist fair, right, Like that's the sequence of 635 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: posts that go up, So it really, it really is. 636 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: And I think on one of my happy posts, I 637 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: had someone right in the question I'm wondering how you 638 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: handle overload overwhelmed. I tend to shut down and then 639 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: nothing gets done. You have ways to climb out of that. 640 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: And then that inspired my whole new post because by 641 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: that point of getting that comment, I was then back 642 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: in that season. So my wonderful readers had a lot 643 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: of you know, good suggestions, and I think the ones 644 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: that I liked a lot were to kind of just 645 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: accept didn't immerse yourself in that hard time, not looking 646 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: too far ahead, so you know, look, you can look 647 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: ahead to the fun parts, but not looking far ahead 648 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: to oh my god, I have so much to do 649 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: next week, because sometimes it's more helpful to just get 650 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: through that minute, that hour, that day, you know, making 651 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: me begier to do list for the next day, but 652 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: instead of looking two weeks ahead and being overwhelmed with 653 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: the deluge to really kind of focus on that moment 654 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: and vent to friends, because I definitely feel better when 655 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: I do that, and you know a lot of people 656 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: did point out rightfully. So you know, figure out if 657 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: you're doing too much. Are there things that need to 658 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: be cut out? Are there things you don't want to 659 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: be doing or don't need to be doing, So that's 660 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: always something to consider. Yeah, I definitely look closely at 661 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: the why you are doing something, so you know, look 662 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: at what's on your plate that you're feeling overwhelmed about 663 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: and ask yourself why you're doing it, because you know, 664 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: we tell ourselves all sorts of stories, and I know 665 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: a lot of our listeners are women, often mothers that 666 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, we have the various stories we tell ourselves 667 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: about doing various things, you know, whether it's about lunch 668 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: packing or driving kids to school, or being at every 669 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: event or having a certain number of you know, extracurricular activities, 670 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: or having a ban on screens or you know, the 671 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: children only eating kale or whatever it is only educational television. 672 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: You know, we have these various stories about what we 673 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: have to do, which might not be true because there's 674 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: probably people who've grown up perfectly successfully without having all 675 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: those things. I know, I didn't always eat kale growing up, 676 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: and I seem to be fairly healthy at the moment, 677 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: and so a lot of stuff can be offloaded or 678 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: just not done. And you know, I think about this 679 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: with me this this month has been really full in 680 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: a good way. I don't have the infant stuff going 681 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: on right now, which is I you know, definitely know 682 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: that I have a lot more time because I don't 683 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: have that going on. But one of the reason, one 684 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: of the things that I've realized is like I don't 685 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: have to get back to emails as quickly as I 686 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: normally would have, right but that's you know, if you 687 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 1: add another twenty four hours on what you consider your 688 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: normal response time, that sort of eyes used some extra 689 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: time and you don't have to be on top of 690 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: things as much. And you know, every couple of days 691 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: they'll get through a big chunk of it. And so 692 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: that's been one thing that I also, you know, make 693 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: sure that I'm sharing the load on stuff, Like I 694 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: took one kid's we have two fall birthdays. I took 695 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: one kid's birthday presence. My husband is fully responsible for 696 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: the other kid's birthday presence, and partly because I know 697 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: she wants a hermit crab and I just can't deal 698 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: with that, Like, but can you deal with the fact 699 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: that he's going to get her herma crab? I I've 700 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: also managed to like say that all pet care is 701 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: not my responsibility. I don't even know how to do 702 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: what needs to be done with our saltwater fish tank. 703 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Oh yes, stay ignorant. That's smart, that's smart. I think 704 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: a lot of men employ that, like a lot. So yeah, 705 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: good and so because I have no idea, like I 706 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: can't be asked to do it, and my kid is 707 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing it, like the kid whose fish 708 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: tank it is is supposed to be taking care of 709 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: it now whether he actually does that, but again it's 710 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: it's fish, like obviously you can't do this with a 711 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: more sentient creature like a dog, because you know, you 712 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: lose a goldfish. You can lose a goldfish for many rights. Laura, 713 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: do you really want to go there on this podcast? 714 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: But no, we will, you don't, I mean, because then 715 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: he realizes he has a day. It hasn't come to that. 716 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: Good good good. But what I'm saying is I am 717 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: not going to be responsible and I just won't take 718 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: it on. So she will learn to be responsible for 719 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: it and he will help, I'm sure. So there we go. 720 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: I love of the weeks, Let's go to that. Yeah. 721 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: So I am in hardcore preparation for our next planner 722 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: extravaganza on this podcast, and I reached out to several 723 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: planner companies and I got samples, which was like super fun, 724 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: and one of them that I got is actually I 725 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: think they're trying to get the mail market. Actually it's 726 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: called the full Focused Planner, and there's a guy named 727 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: Michael Hyatt who has a whole suite of different products 728 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: than productivity hacks that he's else But I was intrigued 729 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: by this planner because it did have kind of an 730 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: interesting structured layout, and I've been having a lot of 731 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: fun with it because you have like this whole space 732 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: for your day. So I sort of combined Laura's time 733 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: tracking and I put that on the right side of 734 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: the page because it's got plenty of room for that, 735 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: and then on the left you kind of have areas 736 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: for to do and it's it's good for that overwhelmed 737 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: season because it's not my calendar. It's more just like, 738 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: you know what, I need a page for today that 739 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: I can just look at today and not look ahead 740 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: and not look back and just you know, decide the 741 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: three things that I'm going to do and be happy with. 742 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: And this has helped me do that. So full focused Planner. 743 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: You're going to hear more about it in our roundup later. Yeah, 744 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to our second Planner Palooza episode 745 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: when I did I when I revisit the goldfish thing here, 746 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: I would like to say my kid has actually been 747 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: feeding the fish. It has not come to that, and 748 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: if I feel like he hasn't in a while, I 749 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: will mention it. So I don't, and then you have 750 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: to put the fish up. You'll put the fish up 751 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: for adoption. I'll put the fish up for adoption. Like, yeah, 752 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: so I don't. I don't want angry notes coming in 753 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: a movie accusing me of not taking care of the fish. 754 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: But it is. It is not my job. But I 755 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: will say everything something in you know, two days if 756 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: I suspect he has a fish done anyway, all right, 757 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: My of the week is paper planners in general, just 758 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: because I love writing things down and crossing them off, 759 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: and like I write down things after I've done them, 760 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: just across them off. It's just so much more satisfying 761 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: than it's some sort of electronic ephemera where it's gone, 762 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I just like to say, yeah, 763 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: that's no fun. And although some people have gotten really 764 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: elaborate with there, there are now these like electronic bullet 765 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: journals that look almost exactly like written one. But I 766 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: hazard to guess they take a lot more time to 767 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: create than the ones on paper, maybe perhaps defeating the purpose. 768 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: But you can actually like cross things off with your 769 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: like apple pencil and your I don't know, it's very interesting, 770 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: but yes, obviously I'm on the paper train. Papers. Well, 771 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: I went to this Homer and parents orientation the other day, uh, 772 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: and we were all sitting at the tables, all of 773 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: us who are doing the third grade classes, and we 774 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: were getting dates on accounts I've noted. Several people also 775 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: pulled out paper planners and we all got to talk 776 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: about being on team paper, those of us who were 777 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: on there, and why we love them. So this is 778 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: this bonding moment over that. All right, anyway, this has 779 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: been best of both worlds. We've been talking about our 780 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: list of one hundred dreams things we have done or 781 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: wished to do. We would love to hear about your 782 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: list of one hundred dreams. I highly encourage people to 783 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: do this exercise. It is so it's fun to think 784 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: about things that you want to spend more time doing 785 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: in your life and than the outside is. You have 786 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: this list, so if you're thinking about, hey, what do 787 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: we want to do this weekend, well, maybe some of 788 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: the things on the list could actually happen. Or if 789 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: you're thinking about what we want to do for vacation 790 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: next year, or what we want to do as a 791 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: family various activities, you can start pulling things from this 792 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: list and then you don't have to brainstorm it in 793 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: the moment, and so things are far more likely to happen. 794 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,479 Speaker 1: So this has been best of both world set. Tune 795 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: in next week for more on making work and life 796 00:37:53,560 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: fit together. Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah 797 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: at the shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox 798 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: on Instagram, and you can find me Laura at Laura 799 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: vandercam dot com. This has been the best of both 800 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: worlds podcasts. Please join us next time for more on 801 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: making work and life work together,