1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Clay 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton Show. Encourage all of you to go 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast, make sure you don't miss a moment. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: You can search out my name Clay Travis, you can 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: search out Buck Sexton. You will be well on the 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: way throughout the holiday season to making sure you can 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: take us wherever you are headed. Lots of drives, lots 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: of plain flights. Many of you traveling all over the 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: country to be with your friends, your family, your significant others, 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: and we want to make sure that you can hang 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: out with us. You can also go to Clay and 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Buck dot com watch videos, check out keep up with 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: everything that is going on in the world of the show. 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: All you have to do is go to Clay and 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Buck dot com and you will be good to go there. 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: A couple of things that are out there as we 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: roll through this hour that I want to discuss. One 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: is the amount of massive power that TikTok is taking 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: over in your kids daily routines and how that is 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: impacting so much going forward that I think many parents, 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: grandparents are not aware of The other part here that 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: I think is worth discussing. Polling keeps coming out, Buck, 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has said he's going to make a major 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: announcement tomorrow, but polling keeps coming out showing that Ronda 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: Santis is in the lead in many different states. Now, 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: Ronda Santis has not announced yet that he is running 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: for office. But yesterday we were talking about the press 29 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: availability he had to impanel a grand jury to investigate 30 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: the COVID shot, and one of our callers, Buck pointed 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: out that there was potentially a political calculus there as well, 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: because Trump had been a very zealous advocate of the 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: COVID shot and that much of the Republican base is 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: not much of a zealous advocate of the COVID shot 35 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: at all. And so I was looking poles in North 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Carolina polls in Tennessee national poll from the Wall Street 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Journal showing that Rohn de Santis has opened up a 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: substantial lead over Donald Trump. Now, and Coulter was on 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: with us last week, Buck, and she upset Tumulter was 40 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: on last week. Do you remember that one? I don't know, 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: Clay and upset some people with her conversation and her 42 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: attack on Trump. Now. Yesterday Stephen Miller made the case 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: Trump is still the best advocate, that he's the most prepared, 44 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: that he's the best and most ready for this job. 45 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: But it's becoming increasingly clear to me, and I'm curious 46 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: if you agree with this as well, Buck, that much 47 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three four Republicans, for all of us 48 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: out there, is going to be about De Santis v. Trump. Now, 49 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: to be fair, there are other candidates that I think 50 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: are gonna run, Mike Pence, Mike Pompeo, Nicky Hailey many differently, 51 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: and young Kinmay and some of these people when they 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: get on the stage and we get into the debate 53 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: season and everything else, may well have an incredible appeal 54 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: that frankly, they're not getting credit for right now. But 55 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: this De Santis Trump battle, this idea that we got 56 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: two heavyweight fighters, so to speak, standing in the ring, 57 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: throwing punches at each other, even if it's not officially 58 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: officially a race yet, what do you think do you 59 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: think the Trump camp Buck should be nervous based on 60 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: some of these early polls, or do you think the 61 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: Santis is the flavor of the week, the exciting and 62 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: again he has not yet announced the exciting new candidate, 63 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: and so he isn't sullied as much. And let me 64 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: give you some data. This is from the Wall Street 65 00:03:54,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Journal new poll that just came out. Ronda Santis has 66 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: as a plus four net positive rating, Joe Biden nets eleven, 67 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: Donald Trump net minus twenty three. And when they are 68 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: compared very favorable or not, De Santis thirty two percent 69 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: very favorable, Biden twenty percent, Trump eighteen percent, now fifty 70 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: two thirty eight. De Santis is up. So do you 71 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: buy this as real or is it a mirage? That's 72 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: the question. It's just so early. I think that's the 73 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: first thing that you have to put this into into 74 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: a context of it's very early on in this process 75 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: of figuring out who the GOP nomina should be. We 76 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: only have one person, Donald Trump, who has come out 77 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: and said that he will be he should be the nominee. Obviously, 78 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: I am certain there will be others. As you point out, 79 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Ron De Santis has not announced yet, and I'm not 80 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: one hundred percent convinced he will announce. I also am 81 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: somebody who says nobody can predict the future. He's doing 82 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: a great job Florida and Floridians. One thing that's funny, 83 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: as you know, I spend I'm spending most of the 84 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: winter here in Miami and uh for obvious reasons, you know, 85 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: through a cold up in New York right now. But 86 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: one of the things you hear from Floridians is they 87 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: don't want to give up the best governor in the country, 88 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: even for the presidency, or I should say, to run 89 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: for the presidency. So I don't know how much there 90 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: may be a little tongue in cheek on that one, 91 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: but I think they're they're partly serious about it at least, 92 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: and some of them are probably very serious. Um. And 93 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: then there's also who is the opponent, because that matters 94 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: so much as we see. Uh, well, that's just a 95 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: basic truth of politics. There was some report today. Did 96 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: you see this? I can't, I can't remember. It's from 97 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: one of the you know, one of the big lib 98 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: masked you know, on the mass TAD or top of 99 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: the MSM MASSTAD kind of media organizations, uh, saying that 100 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, Kama is actually a pretty formidable political candidate, 101 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: which I thought was in interesting. They're starting to starting 102 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: to test the waters here a little bit, and I 103 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: think if you apply the Fetterman effect, as in the 104 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: apparatus can elect whomever it wants whenever it wants, just 105 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: based on their ability to churn out votes and control 106 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: the propaganda. You know, is it Biden or is it 107 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: somebody else that the candidate is running against. I think 108 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: that's that's a part of it. I do think it's 109 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: very hard for people, a lot of people right now 110 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: to think, let's have a redo of twenty twenty in 111 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: exact redo, but let's say Kamala steps in. How does 112 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Kamala stack up against Trump? How would she step it? 113 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: How would she stack up against a Santis or some 114 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: other GOP candidate. So I'm I'm not trying to be 115 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: wishy washy. I understand this all sounds a little wishy 116 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: washy nuance, which just sounds like a fancy French word 117 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: for wishywashy. I think is somewhat required here in we 118 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: don't really know what the contest is on the other side, 119 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: so it's hard to assess, even on our side, what 120 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: the best way is for it to go. Plus, when 121 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: you had the time into that, there's some there's some 122 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: challenges here with them, and look, who's gonna work for Trump. 123 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to push Stephen Miller on this 124 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: yesterday because for all the Trump supporters out there, and 125 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm very honest about this. Not only did I 126 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: vote for Trump twice and went to the mat for 127 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: him in every way that I could in both those elections, 128 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: but I like the guy like you know, you and 129 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: I both been a lot of time. I like I 130 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: like Trump a lot. And I actually knew the Trump 131 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: family a little bit. Not not overstating and not super well, 132 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: but I knew the Trump family a little bit growing 133 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: up in New York and I liked all of them. 134 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: Then I was friendly with the Ivanka growing up in 135 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: New York City, and so I'm very pro Trump in 136 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: a lot of way. This is my way of saying, though, 137 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: if we're gonna look at some of the major challenges, 138 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: who will go work for a Trump administration that matters 139 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: Personneli's policy. You know, I just met with a with 140 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: a great American CEOs week for dinner. You know what 141 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: he said to me, He said, my company is really 142 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: just people. It's all people pursuing the same goals, the 143 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: same you. Clay built a very successful media company that 144 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: now is owned by Fox, which is, you know, is fantastic. 145 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: You understand that the people you hire to work for 146 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: you are you are your company. Stephen Miller, tell if 147 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: he comes out and he says, you know what I mean, 148 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: I think I'll beat White House chief of staff. I 149 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: feel better about a Trump administration. Yeah. If Scaramucci all 150 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden emerges again, it says, you know, I've 151 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: decided I like Trump again. Make me white House chief 152 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: of staff, I get really worried. So we don't even 153 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: know who the personnel pieces would be in this process. 154 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: So I just there's a lot that were so early, 155 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: and I really believe that we're so early to know 156 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: because yeah, of course, the twenty twenty two election didn't 157 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: look good. Didn't look good for Trump. I know people 158 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: don't like to hear that, but it's the truth. It 159 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: did not look good for where he is right now, 160 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: and the polls are reflecting that. But I know a 161 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: lot of Trump supporters that will say that'll change. What 162 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: did things look like in twenty in twenty fifteen, it'll change. 163 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: So I'm aware of both sides. So the numbers out 164 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: here are breaking. I'll give you one that everybody can 165 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: agree on. My home state of Tennessee, Buck Joe Biden 166 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: has a twenty two percent approval rating. That's the lowest 167 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: that I can ever remember any president having in my 168 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: home state of Tennessee. And I do think it's important 169 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: for this reason because I know there's a lot of 170 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: people in Texas. You mentioned that you're in Florida, in Tennessee, 171 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: places that have seen a lot of new arrivals. And 172 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: the biggest concern that I can say is someone who 173 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: is in Native Tennessee in is a lot of people 174 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: in my states say, man, I hope these new arrivals 175 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: aren't going to bring their politics with them. And I 176 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: know there are a lot of Texans with me right 177 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: now nodding along. And really there's lots of red states 178 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: in general that are seeing in influx Florida as well. 179 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: I think these people are coming for the politics, not 180 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: in spite of it, and I think that's significant. The 181 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: reason why I bring it up is many of these 182 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: states where De Santis is urging are It's not a 183 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: surprise De Santis is surging in Florida. We saw the 184 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: nineteen point win. I mean, this is the sense is 185 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm in De santis Land, right now it is his 186 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: state and everyone else is living in it. That's right. 187 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: But in my state of Tennessee, which was among the 188 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: strongest states to support Trump in the nation, DeSantis has 189 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: opened up a thirteen point lead and a substantial majority 190 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: of people just don't want Biden and Trump to run. 191 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: And I want to raise this is a question for you. 192 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: Well know, I have a question for you. Hit your first, Okay, 193 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: you go ahead. Eighty year old Biden. How much is 194 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: he hurting seventy six year old Trump. Not because of 195 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: his policies, which I think helped Trump, but how many 196 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: people out there are just looking at how incompetent Biden 197 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: is at eighty and saying I don't want old people 198 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: running for president right now, because this is what I've 199 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: been saying to people all along the part of Biden 200 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: that remember, I'm not talking about the pronoun announcing triple 201 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: masking live in the cities along the coasts, MSNBC watching LID. 202 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: They're lost to us. They live in an alternate universe 203 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: like we can't. But we're talking about the persuadable voter. 204 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: We're talking about some of those, uh you know, those 205 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: hard working minority voters in Key swing states who may 206 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: be willing to come vote Republican, white working class voters, 207 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: white college educated voters who sometimes go GOP. You know, 208 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: the persuadables, right, the people that are in the middle. 209 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: When when you say Donald Trump is running, it neutralizes 210 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: the Joe Biden is too old to be president argument. 211 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: It really does. And I know people say, and I 212 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: made this argument too, Trump has more energy, Trump is multurventry, 213 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: which is all true, but still seventy six is really 214 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: is really old too. I mean, that's that's we're just 215 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: for being president. I'm not. You know, they're eighty year 216 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: olds who could beat me in arm wrestling listening to this. 217 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: I know that, but I'm just saying it's a deep resident. 218 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: Trump is also too old. So the persuadable voter who 219 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: might say this Joe Biden thing is just ridiculous, is 220 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, if it's seventy six or eighty, I 221 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: guess it's kind of a let's look at the other 222 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: issues involved. What I was going to ask you, have 223 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: you seen this truth social post that's up right now 224 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: from the trump Ster? No, I have not. America needs 225 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: a superhero. I will be making a major announcement tomorrow. 226 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: Thank you from Donald Trump. This is just the last hour. 227 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: Just put this out from his official account. Read it again, 228 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: Read again, Because I mean he leads a superhero. I 229 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: will be making a major announcement tomorrow. Now I've got 230 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: an idea. Trump says he's returning to Twitter. What do 231 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: you think? That's pretty good? That's pretty good. Mine was 232 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: actually even more when I say when I here, American 233 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: needs a superhero. I'll be making a major announcement tomorrow. 234 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: A part of me wonders, is he going to announce 235 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: his vice presidential running mate? But he believes that would 236 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: make sense, so that's certainly play to give himself some 237 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: new I mean, I know it's early, so early, though, 238 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean, what is he going to start announcing his 239 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: commerce secretary pick? When we get to your point on 240 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: what is a way that Trump could appeal to and 241 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: dominate attention, it is to potentially start rolling out his 242 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: whole cabinet and say this is a shadow competition. We're 243 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: in mindmeld right now. Because I was gonna say as 244 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: soon as I said the thing with the Commerce secretary, 245 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: it connected to what I'd said before, which is if 246 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: Trump luke what Trump did on judges. I think this 247 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: is very instructive. You know, there are a lot of 248 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: people who are a little shaky on Trump early on. 249 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking now twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. I remember that, 250 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: you remember that. But Trump said, basically, the Federalist Society 251 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: is going to be picking the judges. I'm gonna get 252 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: this list. It was. I got a list of people, 253 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: and Trump on judges. No matter how annoyed people are 254 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: Trump about other things, you're there whatever. Trump on judges 255 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: A plus, A plus across the board did a phenomenal 256 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: job with judges, and as a result, is probably the 257 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: most consequential pro life president in well, certainly in the 258 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: post Roe v. Wade history of this country. Okay, if 259 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: Trump comes forward with really serious people that have already 260 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: agreed that they will take key roles in a future administration, 261 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: not putting you know, not Amarosa a secretary of state 262 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: or you know, Scaramucci as chief of staff, serious people, 263 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: I think that would do. I think that would do 264 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: a lot for him right now. I do think that 265 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: would help a lot. And people that we could all agree, 266 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, I meant Stephen Miller, White House chief of staff. 267 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: He's a very smart, very squared away guy. That makes 268 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. That, just as one example, 269 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued. I also want to ask you this when 270 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: we come back, how does Democrat calculus change buck if 271 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: Trump weren't going to be the nominee because we kind 272 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: of hinted at it. I don't think that there's any 273 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: way Joe Biden they want to put up against a 274 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: forty three year old Rhonda Santis. I mean, that is 275 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: a disaster that they're walking into. 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This thing is a total mess. 311 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: We also know that Sam Bankman Freed is somebody who 312 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: was using effective altruism is the term that was being 313 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: bandied about, writing checks to the right kind of people, 314 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: doing the right kind of things, defeating global climate change 315 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: for one. Things like that how much money was actually 316 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: out there? You may have seen there was. There were 317 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: seventy million dollars given of what are now being described 318 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: illegal campaign contributions. It seems that Bankman Freed was hiding 319 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: the source of a lot of these donations to different 320 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: political candidates. But I actually think it's even worse than that. 321 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: I think the more we get into what happened here, 322 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: people will see that while follow the money is a 323 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: very important mantra, when it comes to a massive crypto 324 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: exchange operating offshore in the Bahamas, it may not even 325 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: really be possible to follow the money. Here is the CEO, 326 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: John Ray, who's now he's taken over as part of 327 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: the bankruptcy, so he had nothing to do with FTX 328 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: when it was operating. He comes in. You know, he's 329 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: like a like a firefighter who shows up when the 330 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: house is pretty much burned down to say, all right, 331 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: let's let's sift through the wreckage of this. And he's 332 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: been doing this for forty years. This guy has seen 333 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: a lot. Here he is pointing out they were operating 334 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: with billions of dollars of customer money here, and he says, 335 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: play clip two here. There's no record keeping really at all. 336 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: The FTX group is unusual in the sense that, you know, 337 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: I've done probably a dozen large scale bankruptcies over my career, 338 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: in including en Run. Of course, every one of those 339 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: entities had some financial problem or another. They have some 340 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: characteristics that are in common. This one is unusual, and 341 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: it's unusual in the sense that literally, you know, there's 342 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: no record keeping whatsoever. It's the absence of record keeping 343 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: employees to communicate invoicing and expenses on slack, which is, 344 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, essentially, you know, a way of communicating for 345 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: chat rooms, they use QuickBooks. Multi billion dollar company using 346 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: QuickBooks billions of dollars clay of people's money, and they're 347 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: basically texting each other being like, yeah, buy this or 348 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: invest that. Or do this or do that. It's like 349 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of college kids decided that they were going, well, 350 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: that is actually what happened. It's not even like this 351 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: is the situation. But I think what'll be fascinating to 352 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: see is it's what you know. Elon must twittered he 353 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: thinks it's more like a billion dollars that they gave 354 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: to different interests and entities, because otherwise, how do you 355 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: get this far down the road without anyone raising a flag. 356 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: I think, first of all, what he's saying here is 357 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: important to recognize. In Enron, there was an attempt to 358 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: cook the books. There was duplicitous accounting. Based on my 359 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: reading and understanding, that was difficult to unravel if you 360 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: are a sophisticated accountant, right you go in and there 361 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: are dummied up invoices, there are fake fake just basically 362 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: fake bookkeeping. Here, this was just simple embezzlement. He was 363 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: just taking money from this FTX exchange and essentially using 364 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: it for his own purposes and also to make trades 365 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: on the Alameda side. There's basically two companies that were 366 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: involved here. And then when he suddenly had a run 367 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: on Alameda and they said, hey, we need to make 368 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: sure that you have the assets to justify what you 369 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: have been borrowing. Then he tried to go take more 370 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: money out of the FTX accounts, but then everybody started 371 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: to say, wait a minute. FTX is in trouble, and 372 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: there was a bank run and he was left without 373 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: the assets on either side of the equation. Now we 374 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: had yesterday, and I thought he was great, Andy McCarthy, 375 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: and he pointed out the conspiracy charges here, Buck, which 376 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: is I haven't heard hardly anybody discussing this. Andy McCarthy 377 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: is rightly pointing out that in order to have a 378 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: conspiracy you have to have multiple people involved. So far 379 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: there's no other charges that have been brought. This suggests 380 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: that the Southern District of New York has been able 381 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: to get many of potentially Sam Bankman Freed's co workers 382 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: or co founders or however you want to classify them, 383 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: executives in the custody Felly polyamorous vegan nerds. They turned 384 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: on him, And I just want to point this out 385 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: to Buck. It took one month for eight felony charges 386 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: to be brought against Sam Bankman Freed, which is very 387 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: fast in the financial world. The FBI has had Hunter 388 00:21:55,080 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: Biden's laptop since December of twenty nineteen and they've done nothing. 389 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: So I just want to point that out there. Three 390 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: years the FBI has been in possession of Hunter Biden's 391 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: laptop and they haven't managed to do anything with it. 392 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: It took them one month to charge Sam Bakman Freed 393 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: with massive fraud, which usually I was reading this morning. 394 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: Usually it takes a long time months to put together 395 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: charges like these, and they took it to a grand jury, 396 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: so they've been ready since Friday of last week, effectively 397 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: to lay the lumber on Sam Bank. It may be 398 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: because this is so obvious and that it is a 399 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: case of embezzlement and effectively this is a multi billion 400 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: dollars Ponzi scheme via crypto is what he was operating here. 401 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: And this is again CEO John Ray, guy who tried 402 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: to pull the pieces together after Enron completely collapse, saying, yeah, 403 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: this is just you know, old school embezzelman play four. 404 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: This is really old fashion children and embezzlement. This is 405 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: just taking money from customers and using it for your 406 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: own purpose. Not sophisticated at all, sophisticated perhaps in the 407 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: way they were able to sort of hide it from people, frankly, 408 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: right in front of their eyes. But this isn't this 409 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: isn't you know, sophisticated whatsoever. This is just plain old embezzlement. 410 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean for him to say that Sam Bankman Freed 411 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: is going away for a long time. What I'm wondering 412 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: about is if maybe you know, this is where you 413 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: get into who's in charge, who runs the d J. 414 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: But I wonder who he was giving money to. I 415 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: want to know everybody that he was giving money to. 416 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking people keep saying this, oh, we 417 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: already know the fec. No, I'm not just talking about 418 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: the seventy million. Go to NBC News, go to any 419 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: of these There are lots of people with close connections 420 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: to Sam Bankman Freed who were already saying no, No, 421 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: the money that he siphoned two people to just the 422 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 1: elites is way beyond the seventy million that we know 423 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: about right now. I want to know where that money went. 424 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: And it's a big deal because a lot of that 425 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: money was ill gotten, meaning it was the put it 426 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: was the property of people who had made deposits with FTX. 427 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think effectively, it was pretty much gotten, right. 428 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean maybe he made some money on some of 429 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: these Alima trades. We don't even know, I mean, if 430 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: he was hedging and everything else. But my point on 431 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: that is, let's say he gave a million dollars to 432 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: the Miami Heat for naming rights and I'm just tossing 433 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: that out because it was FTX arena, right, you could 434 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: see right on top of the arena. It was a 435 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: big deal. Well, the Miami Heat took that million dollars. Well, 436 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: actually that wasn't their money to have, because it was 437 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: the million dollars that somebody had deposited in FTX. So 438 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: how do you go back? Because remember what a big 439 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: part of the madeoff process was. They brought in in 440 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: the special Master and I'm using that phrase loosely here, 441 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: but his job was was at Feinberg to go back 442 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: and find all of this money that had been distributed 443 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: that was ill gotten gains in an effort to try 444 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: to make as many of the investors right as possible. 445 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: If I am correct in this, which it seems like 446 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: based on all the evidence, will be true, then every 447 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: dollar that he donated, not just to politicians, buck that's 448 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: a drop in the bucket compared to how much money 449 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: he was giving. All of these charitable institutions which may 450 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: have already spent this money, and all of these for 451 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: profit institutions get that back. There's no way to get 452 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: that back. Tom Brady, Gazelle, Steph Curry, Larry David, all 453 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: these super rich people who got paid by him were 454 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: getting paid based on these deposits. It's not actual money. 455 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: I think it's hundreds of millions of dollars, and there's 456 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: no chance that people are going to get that money 457 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: back if I'm right, because of the way that he 458 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: distributed it. Also, when you're talking about crypto, by its 459 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: very nature, it can be incredibly hard to track source 460 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: of and the fact that they had no record keeping 461 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: and they're operating in crypto means there were probably ways 462 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: that they were able to send along huge amounts of 463 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: cash in effect without people even necessarily being able to 464 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: notice or track it. On the regulatory side. I'm just 465 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, for anybody, this didn't get as much attention 466 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: as as I think it should have. And one of 467 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: the reasons it's because Goldman Sachs was very much involved, 468 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of a lot of very 469 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: powerful actors. But Joel who was the one MDB fraudster 470 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: of billion dollars whale fames in dollar whale. What was 471 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: that Malaysia? Right, it was at one MDB was a 472 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: Malaysian sovereign wealth fund that he set up. But they 473 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: used that money to fund a production company that actually 474 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: was the production company that made the Leonardo DiCaprio movie 475 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: The Wolf of Wall Street. So don't think for a 476 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: second that these guys when they're running their massive scams 477 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: don't go you know, would be fun film or to 478 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar movie and have Leo starrn it. 479 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: That is who actually funded The Wolf of Wall Street, 480 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: which is a movie, as you know, about a guy 481 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: doing pump and dump scams and ripping off main street 482 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: investors in Wall Street. So the world has some weird 483 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: sense of humor and it was profitable, unlike a lot 484 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: of the other things they did. They probably made money 485 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: on that. I would say, Also, we can come back 486 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: and talk a little bit more about this. One reason 487 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: there's no records, buck is because crypto at its core 488 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: is about not letting the government know what you have. Yes, 489 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: anonymity is baked as baked into the whole crypto infrastructure. 490 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: So the fact that I'm sure that's going to be 491 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: part of their defense is the reason why we didn't 492 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of books is because the goal of 493 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: crypto is not to be able to track every single 494 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: aspect of crypto. I mean, how do you track a 495 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: made up coin? I mean, these regulators are so far 496 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: and I think that's where a lot of the arrogance 497 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: came from, because they're investing in coins that are total 498 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: digital fabrications that unless you're operating in the crypto world, 499 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: you have no idea what it even is. We think 500 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: the government regulators are going to know how to find 501 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: that stuff. Well, not only that buck even people who 502 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: buy crypto forget their passwords and can't get back in. 503 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: Have you read some of that stuff, like, I mean, 504 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: can you imagine having like a hundred million dollars in 505 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: crypto and not knowing your password? I mean, I can't 506 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: log into my email after three tries and I want 507 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: to throw my laptop through the window. So I cannot 508 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: imagine what that's like. Anyone who has ever dealt with 509 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: password frustrations, imagine if you had one hundred million dollars 510 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: that you couldn't access because you couldn't remember your password. 511 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: That's crypto someplaces. I gotta tell you. Look, we are 512 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: not very far from Christmas, as you well know. 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And we are a 538 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: week away from the expiration of Title forty two, which 539 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: is a big deal because as you know, they've extended 540 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: this and Title forty two is a CDC Pandemic authority 541 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: that allows for the expulsion of certain illegal migrants under 542 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: certain circumstances, even after they cross into America. And it 543 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: has not been obviously super effective, because there have been millions. 544 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: It's remind ourselves of this, over five million illegals crossing 545 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: into America while Joe Biden is president. But it has 546 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: been a tool that has at least prevented some single 547 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 1: adult males from being able to come into the country. 548 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: If you're a unaccompanied miner, if you are a family member, 549 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. When I was at the US border 550 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: crossing a San Diego, they told me that they had 551 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: had I think it was a thirty two year old 552 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: claiming to be a seventeen year old to get get 553 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: through under the unaccompanied Miner loophole. So just people are 554 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: gaming the system left and right. Yeah, thirty two said 555 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: he was seventeen. They didn't buy that one, by the way, 556 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: they thought. I don't think so, but maybe he was 557 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: just should have said he was trans age. Democrats would 558 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: have had to be all in on it, still waiting 559 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: for someone to explain why trans age isn't a thing, 560 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: if transgender is a thing. But I gotta tell you, 561 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: the border situation is something we have to look at 562 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: much more closely because Democrats are beginning to seize a 563 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: narrative on this one. Gavin Newsom, Yes he's slippery and od, 564 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: but he is also formidable in his own way. This 565 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: guy escaped a recall election and actually increased his support 566 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: from election in the recall. Clearly he should have lost 567 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: his job. He did not. Is an amazing In California, 568 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: they keep having these governors that are disastrous, and then 569 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: they keep electing disastrous governors with the same basic policies 570 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: to replace them. Maybe don't have Democrats ruin your state anymore, California. 571 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: That would just be one idea. But here is Newsom 572 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: talking about how, oh man, it's going to be really 573 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: difficult when we get to a post forty two world. 574 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: Play twelve. The fact is what we've got right now 575 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: is not working and is about to break in a 576 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: post forty two world unless we take some rest responsibility 577 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: and ownership. And I'm saying that as a Democrat. I'm 578 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 1: not saying that the point fingers. I'm saying that as 579 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: a bother. I'm saying that as someone that feels responsible 580 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: for being part of the solution. And I'm trying to 581 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: do my best here. So I want everyone to understand 582 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: this right up front. Right now. We talk about the 583 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: border a lot, and we're trying because it matters a lot. 584 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: And when once you start to see the calculations, the 585 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: media won't do this what it means to the taxpay 586 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: or what it means to public resources, to public schools, 587 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: to hospitals, to just have and it's always specific to 588 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: certain communities. One of the challenges when you elevate this 589 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: to the national level, they say it doesn't affect wages. Really, 590 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: look at some of the border communities that have been 591 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: I think it's professor Borjas at Harvard who's done the 592 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: most specific analysis of this. You look like it at 593 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: certain communities when they have a huge influx of illegal migrants. 594 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: Guess what happens. Wages go down, people and public services 595 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: to teriorate. But if that's happening in El Paso, sure, 596 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: maybe you don't feel it in San Francisco. So you 597 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: have to look at the problem with some specificity. My 598 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: point here, Clay, is merely they're saying, oh, yeah, the 599 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: border is a problem. It's a problem, all right, we 600 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: fix it through and that's what they're going to say. 601 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you right now, one voice that 602 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: Trump provided that we don't really have right now is 603 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: shutting down all the illegal crossings and deporting people who 604 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: are not supposed to be in this country anymore, who 605 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: fall into the fall into specific categories. We're not hearing 606 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: that from the GOP. I don't even know if anyone 607 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 1: knows where the GOP stands right now on this issue. 608 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: It's a concern. Gavin Knewsom the trip to the border 609 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: to embarrass Joe Biden. He went to the White House, 610 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: and I'm never going to forget it when Joe Biden 611 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: wasn't there and walked around with his sleeves rolled up. Now, 612 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: he made a big show of saying, Hey, I'm not 613 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: gonna run if you run in twenty four. But if 614 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: Joe Biden were not running, I think Gavin Knewsom would 615 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: end up finding a way to be the nominee in 616 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four for the Democrats. And I think he 617 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: would be formidable because he's smart, He's an incredible liar. 618 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: He presents well, meaning that when he stands in front 619 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: of the camera and answers questions, he handles the cosmetic 620 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: aspects of the presidency far better than most Democrat candidates 621 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: would be. Reportedly, he and Kamala Harris don't get along 622 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: very well. Now I don't know why that is, but 623 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: that would mean that he's not likely to bend the 624 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: knee to Kamala and he would be capable of somehow 625 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: threading the needle of how it's not racist and sexist 626 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: for him as a white man to be leading the 627 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: Democrat Party. And if you question that, keep in mind 628 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is the oldest whitest guy possible, and he 629 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: ended up the nominee in twenty twenty and so I 630 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: don't think this is coincidental that he made his trip 631 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: down to the border. I agree with you, Buck that 632 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: they think the solution is amnesty. Of course it's not 633 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: the solution. And the fact that Joe Biden won't go 634 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: to the border. When does the title forty two end 635 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: next week's week? Right? Ye? So if it officially ends, 636 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be right around Christmas, which is a gift, 637 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: frankly to the Biden administration because a lot of people 638 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: won't be paying attention. But post Christmas and post New Years, 639 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: the border is going to be such a disaster that 640 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: it will be virtually impossible for it not to be 641 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: the number one story in America. There is a deep 642 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: incoherence when you start to ask people who want to 643 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: feel good about themselves on the issue of illegal immigration, 644 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: but you ask them some very basic questions. And this 645 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: is Democrats and they're even Republicans a fall of this category. 646 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: You start to ask this, well, if there's no downside, 647 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: why not just let everyone come whenever they want? Because 648 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: they'll tell you there's no downside. Him. The argument gets 649 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: very interesting. You'll say, you know, if I point out, 650 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: I say, well, it's lawless, lack of sovereignty. You know, 651 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: respect for our laws is important. It's a drain on resources, 652 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: overwhelms our ability as a nation to assimilate people properly, 653 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: which is one of the things that America has been 654 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: amazing at, you know, for a very long time. It 655 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: overwhelms the assimilation processes. It creates fractures in our society 656 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: because people feel like there are different sets of laws 657 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: for different people. You go through these, they'll reject all 658 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: of that. They'll say, oh, a lot of that's true. 659 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: We're a nation of immigrants. They work harder than Americans. 660 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: They're there, I'm talking illegal immigrants. Now, they work harder 661 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: than Americans, they're more law abiding the Americans. I mean, 662 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: either one of those things you can argue or even 663 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: just say is flatly untrue. But then who doesn't get 664 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: to stay? Why not let every if there's no downside, 665 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: which is what effectively the Democrat argument is, why not 666 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: just have open borders. They won't say they want open borders, 667 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: but they want the reality of open borders, meaning they 668 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: can't sell it politically. But they want the de facto 669 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: reality to be what it is right now, which is 670 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: effectively anyone can get into the country and you know, 671 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: just alone on the overwhelm border. What's going on with 672 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: ventinyl and with methamphetamine. We have the worst fentinyl problem 673 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: and the worst meth problem in the history of the 674 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: country right now, Clay. These drugs are more potent, more powerful, 675 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: more destructive than anything we have ever faced. It is 676 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: all coming across the US Mexico border, and people don't 677 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: you're so you're you're losing one hundred thousand plus Americans 678 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: a year because we have lawlessness at the border. So 679 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: the argument should be either we secure the border or 680 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: we just say, you know, screw it. Open borders what 681 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: we want, which is basically what the Democrats have done. 682 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 1: But what we have right now is just untenable. Which 683 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: is the pretense that both sides want an orderly secure border. 684 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: No they don't. The Democrats want an open border, and 685 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: the cartel controls the southern border, which ties in with 686 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: why so much ventinol is coming across and also the 687 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: business opportunity that they have created for themselves. So this 688 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: to me is going to be did you see the 689 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: cop that just I mean, fortunately she's okay. She odeed, 690 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: they believe because fentonel powder from a bust blew in 691 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: her face from the wind. Did you see did you 692 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 1: see the Yeah, I saw that story. I also saw 693 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: the story of the young child in a San Francisco park. 694 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: I think that's still considered to be true because sometimes 695 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: these stories go viral. And then the follow up it 696 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: was like a ten month old who was playing in 697 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: the park and he picked up a fentonyl lace they think, 698 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: piece of paper and odd basically, and and his nanny 699 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: was there and helped to ensure that he was safe. 700 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: That it gives you a sense for how dangerous because 701 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: buck I talked to my kids. Now. It used to 702 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: be you would say, don't do drugs. You know, you 703 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't do it. You can get addicted to them. Now 704 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: when you talk to young people, when you're talking to 705 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: your kids or grandkids, you say, don't do drugs. They 706 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: can kill you the first time that you use them, 707 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,959 Speaker 1: which is different than in the eighties and nineties. Large 708 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: for all the parents out there listening, this is that 709 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,959 Speaker 1: I spoke to the top guy in the DJ under 710 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: Trump working on the issue of fentyl about this, and 711 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: I remember he explained to me in detail the way 712 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: that the cartels make pills that look like pharmaceutical grade pills, 713 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: so people think they're safe. Oh, I'm not taking scary 714 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: fentonyl I'm taking a vicodin. I'm taking something that at 715 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: least has quality control. We know what's in it, so 716 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: you know, You're seventeen year old. Can be at a 717 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: party and someone goes, oh, here, take this. Don't worry. 718 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: It's a prescription drug. But if they bought it illegally, 719 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: guess what it could be fentyl and they could die. 720 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: This happens. This is not just theoretical. This happens. They 721 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: could die the first time they take the drug, not 722 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: even knowing what they're taking in the first place. And 723 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: Clay this problem. It's when you start to look at 724 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: the numbers and the impact that it's having on society 725 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: right now, and you look at methamphetamine, for example, and 726 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: the role thatt meth amphetaman has in a lot of 727 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: the extreme schizophrenia mental health issues breakdowns that are going on. 728 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: You see these crazy people walking around the streets, and 729 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean truly crazy, not not in their right mind 730 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: who are homeless and vagrants. They're drug addicts overwhelmingly, and 731 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: they're addicted to fentanel, they're addicted to meth, they're addicted 732 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: to a few other drugs. Sometimes depends on the individual. 733 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: But look at the focus that the White House is 734 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: putting on tackling that problem, which is killing over one 735 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people a year and destroying cities from the 736 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: inside out, versus the focus they put on transgender story 737 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: hour and top surgery for teenagers as a function of 738 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: White House policy. Not only that, the people who are 739 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: dying of fentanol overdoses are overwhelmingly young. So when you 740 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: talk about years of life lost, we're talking about people 741 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: in their twenties who suddenly are dying because of this 742 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: drug use. And I just want to reiterate again because 743 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: we built on it, and you said it like, hey, 744 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: you think this drug is safe and it's a party drug. 745 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: There was a to give them credit. I think it 746 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: was The New York Times had a story about three 747 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: different people who thought they were buying cocaine and took 748 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: it home and used it and it was fentonol laced 749 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 1: drug and it killed all three of them and they 750 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: never even knew you shouldn't use drugs at all. Right, 751 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: It's an easy thing to tell your kids, but a 752 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,439 Speaker 1: lot of kids say, well, I'll use this because it's 753 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: not dangerous. No. No, people are thinking that they are 754 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: using drugs which are not deadly, and they're consenting to 755 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: those usage, and then the next thing you know, they're 756 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: dead because they're not using the drug that they thought 757 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: they were. It's such an important part here of the 758 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: conversations that there should be to have. There should be 759 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: a bipartisan sense of we have to do everything we 760 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: can to fix this problem as a country right now. 761 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: But it ties directly into the border, and the Democrats 762 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: don't want to admit that and they don't want to 763 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 1: deal with it, and so people are going to keep dying. 764 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: That's what's happening. And as we mentioned yesterday, Buck, there's 765 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: like one media guy that actually is covering the border 766 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: in Bill Belusian, Right, I mean almost no one. Yeah, 767 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: I think about how crazy it is. There's no who 768 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: can you point to from the Washington Post, New York Times, ABC, NBCCBSCNN, MSNBC. 769 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: They don't have anybody there. There's nobody covering this on 770 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: a daily basis. And it's amazing too. They used to 771 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: always say the way they would shut down any criticism 772 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: of illegal immigration, they say, why are you why are 773 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: you so racist? And they particularly would single out why 774 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 1: are you so racist, you know, against the Mexican people 775 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: who want to come here to hard working There are 776 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty countries that have sent people. I mean, 777 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: it's literally the entire planet has realized, Hey, I want 778 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: to get into America. I want to go through. The 779 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: immigration system has anything to do with any individual or 780 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: specific race or nationality or anything else. It is just 781 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: utter chaos and lawlessness, and the bid administration can't he 782 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: can't even go, won't even go to the border, doesn't care. 783 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm the happier things, my friends. 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And it's a fun discussion. 813 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: You start throwing in there, movies that you've actually walked 814 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: out on in the theater, meaning you paid. In New York, 815 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: it's like twenty dollars a ticket now, but even when 816 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: I was a kid, it was, you know, ten bucks 817 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: a ticket. Because I see that Avatar, what is this one? 818 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: The Way of Water? I keep wanting to see the 819 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,720 Speaker 1: shape of water, but I think The Shape of Water 820 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: was the Academy Award winner for Best Picture, about a 821 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: woman who has an affair with her aquarium pet. It's 822 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: very strange. Movie is real. Yes, yes there's a sea monster, 823 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: but she loves the sea monster. And then things get 824 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: a little little lady with the sea monster. I want 825 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: to tell you one best picture. I mean, it's bizarre. 826 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: She's like making out with the creature from the Blue 827 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: Lagoon and an actual human doing that. So Avatar, the 828 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: Way of Water, not the shape of water. The Way 829 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: of Water is out right now and I do think 830 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: that at Avatar is the most financially successful movie of 831 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: all pine. Did you know that didn't three billion dollars globally? 832 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: Now there were the ticket prices were particularly high because 833 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 1: they were up charging for the three D stuff. I 834 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: saw Avatar in the theater with the three D stuff 835 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: in New York. I'm just gonna say it. Avatar is garbage, 836 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: and the fact I think you could trace the decline 837 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: of American cinema to the fact that Avatar made almost 838 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: three billion dollars. The plot is trite, the dialogue is moronic, 839 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: the politics are annoying, and there's just nothing. I don't know. 840 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I hate Avatar. I don't want 841 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,399 Speaker 1: to tell you. I'm definitely not gonna see this one, 842 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: but I am trying. I think that no person of 843 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: good taste should go see the sequel because the first 844 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,359 Speaker 1: one was though. It's like a rip off of Ferngully, 845 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: Dances with Wolves and the Pocahonas movie all at the 846 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: same time. Well, I thought that they had put out 847 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: the movies for Best Picture. I guess they haven't done 848 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: that yet for the Oscar. But I saw the list 849 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: of like the ten favorites block. I had never heard 850 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: of nine of them. You're talking about the oscars and 851 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: the movies just declining relevance, I think in our cultural moment. 852 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: But I remember the original Avatar very moderately at best, 853 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 1: Like I don't really remember any details associated with it. 854 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: I remember that they were blue and that the cinematography 855 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: was really cool. That's pretty much all I remember. And 856 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: I'll probably end up taking my boys to go see 857 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: the movie just because it's Christmas in the holiday season, 858 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: and that's kind of a trend, right, kind of a tradition, 859 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: is that there's a movie on and everybody's cooped up 860 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: in the house and you decide to go out and 861 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: see one. I think they're bringing back Top Gun Maverick, 862 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: which I would also be inclined to go see again. 863 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 1: And I keep thinking Buck that they're going to take 864 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 1: the lesson of Top Gun Maverick. I believe Top Gun 865 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: Maverick now made one and a half billion dollars, And 866 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: you were talking about the box office grosses and everything else. 867 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 1: One of the things that drives me crazy is they 868 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: don't inflation adjust those numbers, because obviously Gone with the 869 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: Wind in nineteen thirty nine made a lot less money 870 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 1: in the box office, and Rocky did, and Titanic did. 871 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: Now you have to adjust based on what ticket prices 872 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: cost now to see how big of a hit these 873 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: movies really were. But I'm with you. I think people 874 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: are so desperate for entertainment that Avatar will do well 875 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: because it's kind of in the line of the superhero 876 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: Marvel box office movies. But even Black Panther two didn't 877 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: have anywhere near the same cachet and success as Black 878 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: Panther one. And I think even these Marvel movies are 879 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: starting to take it on the channel a little bit 880 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: as people are getting more used to them and Star 881 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 1: Wars and everything else. The lesson here is Star the 882 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: Top Gun Maverick Buck. People don't want to hear my 883 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: take on the Marvel movies because I'm gonna upset a 884 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: lot of people. You hate the Marvel movies. I mean 885 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,760 Speaker 1: so many, so many of them are so brainless. Honestly, 886 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: the dialogue it's like written by fifth graders, you know, 887 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: it's just it's all special effects and boom bag. Well, 888 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: they're designed for kids, so that's not that it's not kids, 889 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: it's globally. They're actually I think designed for the Chinese 890 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: marketplace to be dubbed, and that's why they make so 891 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: much money. I mean they're designed to be global visual 892 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: spectacles that they then put into other languages, right, like, 893 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 1: you don't you don't have to have some cultural connection 894 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: to Thor and the Hulk. Well, the reason why I 895 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: don't criticize them is I actually still like the idea 896 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,479 Speaker 1: of a movie being made for someone who's five years 897 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,879 Speaker 1: old that they can watch also with a twenty five 898 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: year old and enjoy it equally. And because I've got 899 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: three young kids, so I don't. I don't dislike Superhero. 900 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm actually okay with I like superhero movies like I 901 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 1: think the first Iron Man movies a really good movie. 902 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 1: I think The Batman Begins and that whole Christopher Nolan franchise. 903 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: So some people are just you know, hate and bihero 904 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: as a as a as a genre. I'm I grew 905 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: up reading comics. I like superhero movies. You like the 906 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: Avengers trilogy then, right, I mean that was really good 907 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,399 Speaker 1: in game like you can't that that was well done? 908 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: You didn't like those? So this is where we're sitting. 909 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: I mean, have you seen some of the Thoor like 910 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,959 Speaker 1: loving thunder stuff. I mean, they've really just gone off. 911 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: It's just oh yeah, look they're just running truck into 912 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: the wall. I think there's a wide variety of of 913 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 1: quality of a lot of these movies. I don't dispute 914 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: that at all. But like the Avengers in Game trilogy, 915 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: Uh was amazing, Like I thought, it was really well done. 916 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: My favorite movie for being able to take I'll give 917 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: you a guess. This movie came out in the early 918 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: two thousands, I believe, and I loved it for being 919 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: able to take as many different ages as possible. They've 920 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: made many sequels of it since, but the original I 921 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 1: loved um. I mean, I mean Pirates, the Pirates, I'm 922 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: gonna give it to you, loved it. Yeah, the first 923 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: Pirates of the Caribbean has is cleverer and has has 924 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: some It's very well produced. I mean, I I get 925 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm not hit on that one. I just think that 926 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 1: I've seen some of these Marvel you know, multi verse 927 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: movies or whatever, and you're just it's just more and 928 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 1: more aliens running through buildings and blowing them up in 929 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: lasers everywhere, and you're like, what is even happening here? 930 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: Like this? Well, the reason why I love Top Gun 931 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,280 Speaker 1: Mavericks so much, Buck was it took me back to 932 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: our childhood. Although you're much younger than me, it took 933 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: me back to our childhood, your generate, your millennial. I'm 934 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: a gen X. But it took me back to the 935 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties when it felt like almost every movie 936 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: was made for a broad audience. And that doesn't mean 937 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: that it was perfect, but Top Gun Maverick was. It 938 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: was like being in nineteen eighty six or nineteen ninety 939 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: two all over again. So so can I. I'll tell 940 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,399 Speaker 1: you this. I think. I think that what we've seen 941 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: is that it became the primary focus of anyone seeking 942 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 1: to make a movie, went from what will be the 943 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: biggest impact for audience. I mean, to your point, what 944 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: will be what we'll get the most butts in seats 945 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: in movie theaters. That was a huge consideration the major studios. Now, 946 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: for the people green lighting movies, it's what will get 947 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: me praise from my peers that run this studio and 948 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 1: other studios, and so I get invited to fancy cocktail 949 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: parties in Malibu. That's why they green light certain movies. Now, 950 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: it's very clear to me, based on the content that 951 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 1: they're producing. I think that's true. I also think streaming 952 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: factors in here, buck, and I think there is something 953 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: to trying to define a niche as opposed to trying 954 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 1: to hit a mass market, if that makes any sense. 955 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: And so if you are, you know, sixteen years old 956 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 1: and you have an interest in you know, like I 957 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,240 Speaker 1: don't know, like the Werewolves, like there's a movie made 958 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 1: for you. And that might be a bad example, because 959 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: the Twilight movies did really well. I never watched them. 960 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: Mike Leach, who died recently, had a great take on that. 961 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: The Mississippi State former head coach. He said that he 962 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: liked his vampires to be mean and angry and not 963 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: like Mopi adolescence, and I was like, I totally get 964 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: that right. But so I feel like that the intent 965 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 1: of making a mass success story is changed in streaming, 966 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: where the intent is not the same thing, if that 967 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 1: makes sense. And I think it's a subtle shift, but 968 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty substantial one. There just aren't 969 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: very many movies made like Top Gun Maverick anymore. And 970 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: I think, in fact that it's unapologetically pro America and 971 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 1: just a feel good movie that you could take your 972 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: kids too was pretty fantastic. Not the best movie, but 973 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: movie watching experience, either when you were a kid or 974 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 1: with your family as a dad, your best in theater 975 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 1: movie watching experience in memory is what movie for When 976 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 1: I was a kid, Return of the Jedi in the 977 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 1: movie theater, remember going to see it and just being 978 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: blown away? What about you? What movie did you guys too? 979 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: And just think I remember my parents taking the whole 980 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 1: family to see Jurassic Park the original when I was 981 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: in the third grade. That was amazing. Yeah, I was 982 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: really good. It's a good question. Let me think on it. 983 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,240 Speaker 1: I'll give you an answer for the best family going 984 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 1: to the movie experience that we have had, where everybody 985 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,879 Speaker 1: enjoyed it and left and was like, that's a great 986 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 1: feeling when you're the dad and you leave the theater 987 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,800 Speaker 1: and your kids, your boys or your girls are jumping 988 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 1: around like in a great mood. You can't stop talking 989 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 1: about how awesome it was, and hopefully also simultaneously you 990 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. We take all the three boys. My wife 991 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: and I still really liked the movies, so we take 992 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: all the whole family two movies fairly frequently if we can, 993 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: and That's why the Marvel movies to me have some 994 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: appeal because it's just something we can go do as 995 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: a full family. Let me think on the best reaction 996 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 1: coming out of one of those movies. But for me 997 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: as a kid, it was Return of the Jedi Beyond 998 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: a Shadow of a Doubt. 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