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Speaker 1: a magnificent Thursday. We're going to talk about this NATO

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Speaker 1: policy shift here in just a moment. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: Josh Hammer joins us a half hour from now to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Supreme Court thing. Remember, tomorrow is in

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Speaker 1: into Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Now. NATO policy

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Speaker 1: last night, maybe you saw it, maybe you didn't. But Macron,

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Speaker 1: the head of France, he put out a public statement

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Speaker 1: that said, we're not laying off Ukraine. We're not going

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Speaker 1: to let Ukraine fall. We are digging in Russia is

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Speaker 1: a threat to all of us. We might even expand

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Speaker 1: our nuclear protection to that area. He was so forceful

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Speaker 1: that Russia. Russia came out and said, you better watch

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Speaker 1: yourself with all this nuclear talk. So it was I

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Speaker 1: don't want to freak you out, but I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: as I was laying in bed last night, it was

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Speaker 1: on my mind, it really was, don't don't dismiss how

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Speaker 1: bad this could get going forward. In fact, we're going

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Speaker 1: to discuss that as part of our NATO discussion here now.

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Speaker 1: Before I go to Trump and play what Trump was

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Speaker 1: talking about today as it pertains to NATO, I want

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Speaker 1: you to keep just a couple of things in mind. First,

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Speaker 1: Europe has five hundred million people in it. America has

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Speaker 1: three hundred you or take. Europe is bigger than America significantly,

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Speaker 1: So okay, NATO NATO. Well, America contributes two thirds of

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Speaker 1: the NATO forces, two thirds if you added every other country,

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Speaker 1: they don't equal half of what we pay. We are NATO.

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Speaker 1: And there's a requirement that they never seen be fulfill

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Speaker 1: that they have to spend. They have to spend a

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Speaker 1: certain percentage of their country's budget. Pick your NATO country,

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Speaker 1: A certain percentage has to be bent on military force.

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Speaker 1: So you can be a contributing member to NATO, and

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Speaker 1: they rarely do it. They rarely meet the number. If

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Speaker 1: you remember, if you were kind of one of these

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Speaker 1: policy nerd types or you're just into politics. Trump was

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Speaker 1: all over NATO the first time about this. He was

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Speaker 1: constantly scolding him. You don't even contribute what you should.

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Speaker 1: You don't contribute what you should. He was constantly yelling

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Speaker 1: about it. And there's another part to NATO. And this

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Speaker 1: was on my mind last night big time. I was

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Speaker 1: of freaked out about it. So I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: freak you out. But you've heard about the article five.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard Article five when it comes to NATO?

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Speaker 1: Ever heard about that Article five? Article five? What does

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Speaker 1: that even mean? Well, I won't bore you with all

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Speaker 1: the details around it, but what Article five is is

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Speaker 1: if one NATO country gets into it with let's just

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Speaker 1: five means every NATO country must go to war. That's

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Speaker 1: part of the whole NATO thing. Now, as you can

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Speaker 1: imagine why it was on my mind last night. I

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Speaker 1: to expand our nuclear protection. We've recently seen the UKPM

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Speaker 1: our troops. We are not seeing the de escalation the

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Speaker 1: peace talks we were hoping. We're seeing other NATO countries

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Speaker 1: And I was laying laying there last night thinking to myself,

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Speaker 1: What if What if France is serious? And I doubt

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Speaker 1: What if a French fighter jet violates Russian territory, flies

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Speaker 1: That means, hey, America, up run Article five. Russia attacked us.

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Speaker 1: not going to interrupt him. Trump talked about NATO policy

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Speaker 2: I think it's common sense, right, But if they don't pay,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to defend them now.

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Speaker 2: I got into a lot of heat when I said that.

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Speaker 2: He said, oh, he's violating NATO. And you know the

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Speaker 2: biggest problem I have with NATO, I really, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know the guy's very well. They're friends

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Speaker 2: and we called them, we said, we got a problem. France,

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Speaker 2: Do you think they're gonna come and protect us they're

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Speaker 2: supposed to. I'm not sorry.

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Speaker 1: Sure, you know. The headline is Trump's latest shock NATO

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Speaker 1: policy shift has allies in disbelief. I am so grateful

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's president right now because what he's doing is

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Speaker 1: he's letting them know I want this war to end.

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Speaker 1: I want a peace process. Remember, we already had Russia

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Speaker 1: Trump at Rubio two. I don't want to dismiss Rubio

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Speaker 1: and Walls and the other diplomats involved. They got involved diplomatically,

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Speaker 1: sign an agreement. Ukraine needs to be protected Russia. Obviously

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Speaker 1: But let's end this one point five million people dead.

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Speaker 1: Let's be done with it. Donald Trump, President of the

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Speaker 1: we'ren't chopping out America, come help. You got another thing coming.

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Speaker 1: Don't think for a second you're going to be belligerent here,

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Speaker 1: to come save Europe once again, because America is out

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Speaker 1: save Europe. We've already done that twice. Europe. You're on

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Speaker 1: your freaking own. Enough of that. And it's exactly what

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Speaker 1: We'll be back Jesse Kelly. It is the Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 1: We got Josh Hammer coming up about ten minutes or

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Speaker 1: Josh Hammer and some of the other Trump stuff from today.

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Speaker 1: I should let you know Trump talked today about the

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Speaker 1: reports on his attempt at assassination attempts, attempt at assassination attempts.

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Speaker 1: That's most definitely not how you're supposed to say that

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Speaker 1: on his attempt at assassinations. Whatever. I've got a little

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Speaker 1: It's pretty creepy. We'll get to that in a little bit. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's do some emails, Jesse, I have your cartail name

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Speaker 1: all worked out, No problem o. Better than Los Monitas anyway,

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Speaker 1: in Mexican? He said, our messaging needs to evolve clearly

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Speaker 1: who could do that, you know, anyone like that. He's

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Speaker 3: of them, but as we said, he's not perfect. But

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Speaker 3: if you go down to the federal course of appeal,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I clerked for a Judge James C. Hoe

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Speaker 3: on the Fifth Circuit. I was one of Judge Hoe's

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Speaker 3: first four lastlers on the Fifth Circuit. They're in Texas.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic judge, and the Fifth Circuit in general, Trump's nominees

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Speaker 3: were superb. I literally watched that court transformed with my

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Speaker 3: I clerked on it. And there's many other course of

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Speaker 3: appealed out of the same way. So the lower court

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Speaker 3: judicial nomination picks during the first time administration were really

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Speaker 3: quite exceptional. There are a couple of duds, but they're

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Speaker 3: really few and far between. This seems to be more

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Speaker 3: of a problem at the level of US Supreme Court,

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Speaker 3: and part of that is just kind of a it's

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Speaker 3: really kind of like a limelight thing. You know, there's

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Speaker 3: this old theory called the Greenhouse effects, because there was

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Speaker 3: you know, the Georgetown cocktail parties, all that stuff, they're

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Speaker 3: all going to move to the left. And it's a

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Speaker 3: real problem. It's an actual problem. There. We see it

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Speaker 3: sometimes in Brett Havena's writing. He's kind of begging to

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Speaker 3: be liked by people that are not inclined to like him. There,

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Speaker 3: So we need people who frankly just don't give a

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Speaker 3: the smallest crap in the world about what the corporate media,

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Speaker 3: elites and what not think of them. But again, easier

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Speaker 3: said than done. But those people are out there. They

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Speaker 3: do exist.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now let me ask you something. By the way, Josh,

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Speaker 1: do you have another ten minutes because I have like

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Speaker 1: ten more questions for you that I haven't even got

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Speaker 1: to yet. Now I'm getting sidetracked. It's fine if you don't,

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Speaker 1: but do you Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You bet?

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Speaker 1: Okay, good because I'm going to ask this one, thinking

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Speaker 1: about what you just said, Would it benefit us or

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Speaker 1: is this something that's an impossibility or ridiculous to move

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court simply. I understand they maybe have to

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Speaker 1: be in that building or something like that, But why

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Speaker 1: can't we move it? Why can't it be in Omaha,

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Speaker 1: Nebraska or something like that? If we if we have

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Speaker 1: a DC cocktail party system problem, why not remove the

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Speaker 3: It's a good question. I've never really thought about, Jesse.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing in the constitution that would preclude that as

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Speaker 3: a possibility. There's probably a statute or something that does

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Speaker 3: wanted to. So here's the flip side on that. Actually,

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Speaker 3: so there is this kind of whole conversation about moving

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Speaker 3: not just the Court, but various agencies out into the

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Speaker 3: American heartland. My good friends Jonathan and Page Briniski, the

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Speaker 3: their husband and wife here in Florida or I live,

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Speaker 3: great personal friends of mine. They actually co wrote a

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Speaker 3: weeks ago, arguing that this is actually a bad idea

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Speaker 3: because when you move these agencies and the Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: is not that different in this respect. There you're also

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Speaker 3: basically bringing the liberal culture of lob of these places

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Speaker 3: to these otherwise read bastions. Right, So you know, in theory,

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Speaker 3: maybe moving the Supreme Court is to a place like,

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Speaker 3: you know, like Norman, Oklahoma, whatever might make sense, But

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Speaker 3: you're also going to risk ruining the culture of Norman, Obloma.

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Speaker 3: So it's kind of a two edged sword. But it's

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Speaker 3: an intriguing idea. And and you know, frankly, those are

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Speaker 3: the kind of drastic reforms that I'm always sympathetic to.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I'm sold on it, but I'm

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Speaker 3: definitely sympathetic to the idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did have a brilliant idea. We're going to

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Speaker 1: be right back with more Josh Hammer as he and

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Speaker 1: I fix all the legal problems. You know what legal

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Speaker 1: Josh Hammer. Before I get to Josh Hammer, I want

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Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. We still have more

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Speaker 1: than an hour of the Jesse Kelly Show. But we

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Speaker 1: are back with my friend Josh Hammer, host of America

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Speaker 1: on Trial and has a book coming out, Israel and Civilization,

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Speaker 1: which you should go pre order. Okay, Josh, Now, when

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Speaker 1: we talked earlier today, you told me there might be

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Speaker 1: some good news with this crappy Supreme Court decision where

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Speaker 1: Amy Cony Barrett and John Roberts of course screwed us over.

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Speaker 1: Expand on that, why why might this work out? Okay?

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Speaker 3: In the end, well, Jesse, he kind of gets into

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Speaker 3: inter procedural weas a little bit here. But what happened

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Speaker 3: here in this case if you have the District Corps

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Speaker 3: judge and a man by the name of Amir Ali,

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Speaker 3: and this guy's a left wing activist, Okay, I mean

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Speaker 3: he was a professional left wing agitator of a lawyer

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Speaker 3: as recently as like five months ago. He was one

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Speaker 3: of Joe Biden's last nominees to the federal bench. He

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Speaker 3: literally took his seat in late November, even after the election,

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Speaker 3: during the lame duck, during the lame duck portion of

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Speaker 3: Biden's presidency. But what he did was he put a

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Speaker 3: what lawyers call a tro a temporary restraining order purporting

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Speaker 3: to demand that USAID not issue or excuse me, that

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Speaker 3: they that they will continue to issue this two billion

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Speaker 3: dollars in foreign A funding. And then he basically went

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Speaker 3: ahead and he renewed his temporary restraining order. So what

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Speaker 3: the court did here, when the Supreme Court did is

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Speaker 3: they basically said that we're not going to review this

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Speaker 3: at this time. We're just going to pass because it's

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Speaker 3: coming to us in the procedural posture we might say

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Speaker 3: of a temporary restraining order. Basically, what they're saying is

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Speaker 3: that he hasn't even declared a full scale injunction, which

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Speaker 3: is kind of the more sweeping remedies saying like you

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Speaker 3: actually are fully stopped from doing this. So they're basically

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Speaker 3: making a procedural point that it's not fully ripe for

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Speaker 3: their review at this time. Now, the point, among other

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Speaker 3: points that sam Alido and the other descent thing Justice

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Speaker 3: making their descent is he says, well, you know, we

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Speaker 3: can call this a temporary restraining order, but at some

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Speaker 3: point when you keep on renewing it, it kind of

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Speaker 3: ceases to be temporary. It's not really temporary anymore. Right, So,

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Speaker 3: one way or the other, though, this is going to

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Speaker 3: make its way back to the Supreme Court, and eventually

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Speaker 3: it's going to make it back to the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 3: not on this procedural question, but on the actual underlying

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Speaker 3: substantive constitutional separation of powers question, the actual separation of

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Speaker 3: powers question that is relevant here. Is the President forced

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Speaker 3: to disperse in this case, two billion dollars in funding

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Speaker 3: that has been discretionarily authorized by the USAID. And the

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Speaker 3: short answer is no, that he is not required to

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Speaker 3: do so, because the judiciary simply just has has no

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Speaker 3: ability to dictate to the President what funding decisions he

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Speaker 3: a basic separation of powers decisions. So when it actually

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Speaker 3: gets back to the court on the constitutional merits, Jesse,

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Speaker 3: I'm a little more optimistic here. Basically, Roberts and Barrett

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Speaker 3: took a convenient procedural off ramp which allowed them to

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Speaker 3: not rule on the merits. But there eventually will be

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Speaker 3: a ruling on the merits there and I'm a little

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Speaker 3: more optimistic about that.

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Speaker 1: I like that. That makes me feel better, all right,

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Speaker 1: More thing, Josh, moving forward, we see so much of this,

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Speaker 1: so much of these, so many of these stumbling blocks

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Speaker 1: that the system is obviously going to try to do

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Speaker 1: to try to stop Donald Trump's agenda. Can there be

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Speaker 1: one sweeping ruling? Will there be one sweeping ruling? Or

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Speaker 1: is this I mean, I don't want to be do doomsday,

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Speaker 1: but it's been a couple of months. Are we just

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Speaker 1: in for four years of this? I Trump doing something good,

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Speaker 1: the court stops it, well, you have to wait for

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, But can we be done with this? Ever?

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Speaker 3: It's probably going to be a lot more of this.

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Speaker 3: I hate to say it, because a lot of these

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Speaker 3: liberal judicial nominees from Barack Obama and Joe Biden, they

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Speaker 3: despise Donald Trump basically as much as the MSNBC talking

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Speaker 3: heads despise him. So this is a very personal issue

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Speaker 3: for a lot of judges. A lot of these judges

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Speaker 3: have TDS Trump Arrangement syndrome the exact same way that

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Speaker 3: some talking heads and elected officials in Congress and so

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Speaker 3: forth have it there. But here's what I will say, Jessie,

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Speaker 3: there actually is one thing that the Supreme Court can

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Speaker 3: and must do that will have the largest and most

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Speaker 3: sweeping effect to disincentivize these lower court judges, these lower

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Speaker 3: court judicial insurrectionists, as I've called them, to prevent them

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Speaker 3: from acting on the line. And that ruling is you

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Speaker 3: have to rule once and for all that there is

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Speaker 3: no such thing as a so called nationwide injunction because

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Speaker 3: it's illegitimate. It falls outside the bounds of the judicial

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Speaker 3: power of which Article three of the Constitution speaks. Because

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Speaker 3: the idea that a single judge could bring the entirety

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Speaker 3: of the executive branch to a halt, that's just not

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Speaker 3: how our system of government works. So, for instance, just

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Speaker 3: you give the power to the judiciary to decide cases

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Speaker 3: not just for themselves, but as it affects the direct

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Speaker 3: dealings of the other two branches will make the judiciary

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Speaker 3: a despotic branch, make them just a tyrannical branch. It's

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Speaker 3: just not our system of governance. And the sooner that

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court can basically kick the so called nation

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Speaker 3: one injunction to the curb, the better, because the first

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Speaker 3: time around, Donald Trump says, by Mike Town, sixty four

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Speaker 3: to sixty five or so of these nation one junctions, which,

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Speaker 3: by the way, Jesse more than the first forty four

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Speaker 3: presidents of the United States combined. Go figure. It really

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Speaker 3: was debilitating the first time around. And we've got to

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Speaker 3: get a defendive ruling on this. That's got to happen asap.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully the acting Slitterer General the United States, Sarah Harrison,

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Speaker 3: assume to be full time Slitterer General John Sower or Missouri.

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Speaker 3: They're both outstanding lawyers. Hopefully they get that petition teed

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Speaker 3: up nicely for the Justice because that ruling has to

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Speaker 3: happen asap.

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Speaker 1: Fingers crossed. He is Josh Hammer, Go get his book ordered,

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Speaker 1: Israel and Civilization. Josh, my brother. I appreciate you as always,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for making us smarter. Take care, my friend, Josh,

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Speaker 1: and I know so much about the Constitution, don't we kids?

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Speaker 1: What Chris, Josh and me we really educate people on

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Speaker 1: all the different articles and things. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: know as much as me and maybe Josh? You know,

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Speaker 1: Hillsdale will teach you about the Constitution for free. You

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Speaker 1: realize that Hillsdale College amazing university. Everybody wants their kids

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Speaker 1: to get into the kind of university I could never

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Speaker 1: get into. More than forty free online courses Hillsdale College.

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Speaker 1: Do you know they have a constitution? One oh one?

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Speaker 1: You think you know?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Because we know the First Amendment and Second Amendment. You

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Speaker 1: something and you kind of gloss over it or you

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Speaker 1: don't understand it. Hillsdale will teach you. Your kids will

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's something healthy and fun to do as

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Speaker 1: a family at no cost. Hillsdale dot edu slash jesse

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Speaker 1: is where you go to enroll Hillsdale dot edu slash jesse.

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Speaker 1: All right, we still have an hour. I am going

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Speaker 1: to try to carve up some serious emails and make

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Speaker 1: some room there. I also want to talk about swallowing

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Speaker 1: jewelry that apparently is something we have to discuss as

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Speaker 1: a people here swallowing jewelry next