WEBVTT - CES Expectations, Fubo Shares Jump on Disney Deal

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<v Speaker 1>From the heart of where innovation, money and power collide

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<v Speaker 1>in Silicon Valley and beyond. This is Bloomberg Technology with

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline Hyde.

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<v Speaker 2>And Ed Ludlow live from New York. This is Blomberg Technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>CEES kicks off in Las Vegas today with a keynote

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<v Speaker 3>speech from Nvidia.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have the latest on what to expect.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus, Disney and Fubo TV agreed to combine their online

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<v Speaker 3>TV businesses live TV, creating the second biggest digital PATV

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<v Speaker 3>provider and sending Fubo shares soaring and a lawsuit a

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<v Speaker 3>ledgers TikTok's video livestreams facilitated the exploitation and.

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<v Speaker 2>Grooming of miners. Details later this hour.

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<v Speaker 3>First, we have some breaking news regarding the Federal Reserve.

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<v Speaker 3>Bar Michael Barr is going to be stepping down as

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<v Speaker 3>FED Vice Chair for Supervision, a key move that we

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<v Speaker 3>want to bring in one Michael McKee here because, by

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<v Speaker 3>I said, the risk of a dispute over the position

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<v Speaker 3>could be a distraction. New administration in the White House

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<v Speaker 3>means new change leadership in the FED.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, new regulatory era in the AT four banks and

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<v Speaker 4>other institutions. Because of course the trumpet incoming Trump administration

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be very much less so, so Michael

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<v Speaker 4>Barr is stepping down February twenty eighth and he will

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<v Speaker 4>serve until a successor comes.

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<v Speaker 2>There are other resignations we need to pay attention to.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Meeky, Thank you, Canadian Prime Minister trust and Trudeau

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<v Speaker 3>speaking in Ottawa.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's listen in.

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<v Speaker 5>a fighter. Every bone in my body has always told

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<v Speaker 5>me to fight because I care deeply about Canadians. I

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<v Speaker 5>care deeply about this country, and I will always be

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<v Speaker 5>motivated by what is in the best interest of Canadians.

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<v Speaker 5>And the fact is, despite best efforts to work through it,

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<v Speaker 5>Parliament has been paralyzed for months after what has been

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<v Speaker 5>the longest session of a minority parliament in Canadian history.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why this morning I advise the Governor General that

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<v Speaker 5>we need a new session of Parliament. She has granted

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<v Speaker 5>this request and the House will now be prorogued until

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<v Speaker 5>March twenty fourth. Over the holidays, I've also had a

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<v Speaker 5>chance to reflect and have had long talks with my

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<v Speaker 5>family about our future. Throughout the course of my career,

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<v Speaker 5>any success I have personally achieved has been because of

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<v Speaker 5>their support and with their encouragement. So last night over dinner,

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<v Speaker 5>I told my kids about the decision that I'm sharing

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<v Speaker 5>with you today. I intend to resign as party leader

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<v Speaker 5>as Prime Minister after the party selects its next leader

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<v Speaker 5>through a robust nationwide competitive process. Last night I asked

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<v Speaker 5>the President of the Liberal Party to begin that process.

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<v Speaker 5>This country deserves a real choice in the next election,

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<v Speaker 5>and it has become clear to me that if I'm

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<v Speaker 5>having to fight in in all battles, I cannot be

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<v Speaker 5>the best option in that election. Michel Settee come Vucevi starfighter.

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Trudeau there the Prime Minister of Canada, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>now handing in his resignation as the leader of his party.

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<v Speaker 3>There is an official suspension of parliament now in Canada

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<v Speaker 3>until March the twenty fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>We will return to all of.

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<v Speaker 3>The moves when it comes to politics in Canada. But

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<v Speaker 3>the announcement there that Canada will perode parliament until March

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty fourth, and indeed Trudeau's Canada Parliament will be

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<v Speaker 3>suspended and he announces his resignation after nine years in power.

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<v Speaker 3>He says he'll stay as Prime Minister until a new

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<v Speaker 3>Liberal leader is chosen.

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<v Speaker 2>His resignation announcement not the only one. This time.

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<v Speaker 3>We returned to Michael McKee and the Federal Reserve because

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Barrs.

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<v Speaker 2>Stepped down as FED Vice chair for Supervision. But he's

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<v Speaker 2>not resigning from the Federal Reserve. Just this Vice chair position.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, which makes a very interesting situation for the FED

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<v Speaker 4>because there is no opening on the FED Board of

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<v Speaker 4>Governors until January of twenty twenty six, when Ariona Cougler's

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<v Speaker 4>term expires, and it's basically been thought she won't be replaced.

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<v Speaker 4>But the incoming president won't have the opportunity to pick

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<v Speaker 4>a different new vice chair for regulation. He could only

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<v Speaker 4>pick from those who are on the board now. The

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<v Speaker 4>best guess is that if you were going to choose

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<v Speaker 4>somebody from that board, it would be Mickey Bowman, because

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<v Speaker 4>she's been the sort of community bank representative, she's been

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<v Speaker 4>a banking official. She is a Republican, so she fits

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<v Speaker 4>some of the characteristics that the president would want. But

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<v Speaker 4>does Donald Trump want Mickey Bowman as vice chair or

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<v Speaker 4>is he going to leave the position vacant for right now?

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<v Speaker 4>And the other key thing about this is the FED

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<v Speaker 4>says it will take no new actions for bank regulation

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<v Speaker 4>until his successor is confirmed, and that would seem to

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<v Speaker 4>indicate that Basil three, the endgame proposal that has been

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<v Speaker 4>sort of the big focus on Wall Street is if

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<v Speaker 4>not dead on life support.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, we'll get to some of the stock

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<v Speaker 2>reactions on the banks.

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<v Speaker 3>But is that going to be the big market move really,

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to be what's digested here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the Fed was supposed to re announce in January

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<v Speaker 4>or February their latest BUZZL three work up, because they

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<v Speaker 4>pulled it back to do some revisions, and now apparently

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<v Speaker 4>that's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>We keep an eye on what's happening in the markets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yields till about three basis points to the higher side.

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<v Speaker 3>That more based on tariff perceptions and whether or not

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to be pulled back or indeed put in

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<v Speaker 3>force as Trump had discussed before. We'll get to that

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit later, but for now you'll see two

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<v Speaker 3>year yields on the downside, thirty eight yields have been

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<v Speaker 3>inching higher up four basis points. And we're keeping a

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<v Speaker 3>close eye on the bank stocks and the back of

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Barr's resignation as the vice chair of the FED

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to supervision, Michael mckeey, thank him. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>get back to the tech markets for a moment as well,

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<v Speaker 3>because that we're at record highs on certain names Nasdaq

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<v Speaker 3>app or another one point seven percent on the NAZAK

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred, the big benchmark, what drives us higher.

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<v Speaker 2>The points being pushed higher by one.

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<v Speaker 3>In video, we are at a new record high for

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<v Speaker 3>in video at the moment, we want to go to

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<v Speaker 3>some other key market moves of the day. Fubo TV

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<v Speaker 3>extraordinary move for this particular company, as we once again

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<v Speaker 3>see the beginning of twenty twenty five kickoff to an

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<v Speaker 3>m and a frenzy and consolidation within media. This is

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<v Speaker 3>all about how you're going to be consuming your sports

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<v Speaker 3>live TV online. We're getting the second biggest player when

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<v Speaker 3>you combine Disney and Fubo to be taking on and

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<v Speaker 3>really only second to YouTube TV. Fubo up one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ninety percent. Will delve into that later in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Microsoft and an interesting story it came on Friday, the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that they're going to be spending eighty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in AI data centers. Many saying that, look, this is

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<v Speaker 3>why we've got tech rallying on the day. More broadly,

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<v Speaker 3>more commitment to AI infrastructure. Microsoft up two percent and

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<v Speaker 3>in Vidia in a new record high. We're up five percent,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's because we're expecting a keynote at about six

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<v Speaker 3>thirty pm at Pacific time, that is nine thirty pm

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<v Speaker 3>New York time at later today from one Jensen Huang.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get out to Ian King for more. In of course,

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<v Speaker 3>at CEES we're about to unfold.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we expect from Jensen in particular.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean we don't know yet. There are going

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<v Speaker 6>to be briefings and then he's obviously going to hit

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<v Speaker 6>the stage later today. What we've seen are some leaks

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<v Speaker 6>of a new GPU architecture that's going to becoming that's

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<v Speaker 6>basically for the PC market. So used to be their

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<v Speaker 6>pride and joy, but now it's kind of a minor thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And you'll remember that we reported a long time ago

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<v Speaker 6>now that this will be the year that Jensen and

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<v Speaker 6>in video would directly get into the PC market, into

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<v Speaker 6>the CPU market.

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<v Speaker 3>And not the only one, Quillcom introducing new chips designed

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<v Speaker 3>to power PCs as well. It's all about the AIPC unfold.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, this is the big hope for both

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<v Speaker 6>the PC makers and the guys that supply them that hey,

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<v Speaker 6>this is something exciting, this is a new way to

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<v Speaker 6>use your PC, and that everybody will rush out to

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<v Speaker 6>trade in their old machine. And basically every chip maker

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<v Speaker 6>out there is saying, hey, we've got the best solution

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<v Speaker 6>for this particular way of doing things.

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<v Speaker 3>In you've got to be clued into what is writing

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<v Speaker 3>on the Tech Daily today is a brilliant piece all

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<v Speaker 3>about the important conversations that are going on outside the

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<v Speaker 3>main floor of Las vegas Ian King in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 3>for us, thank you so much for the look ahead

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<v Speaker 3>to CES and of course that keynote from Nvidia's CEO

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<v Speaker 3>tonight and it's the talk of the town. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Bianco from Bianco Research had this to say about

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<v Speaker 3>the company and it's CEO just earlier today on Bloomberg Surveillance.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, first of all, everybody should care about Jenson Wang

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<v Speaker 7>because he is the most important person in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 7>five to everybody's returns, no matter what market you are

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<v Speaker 7>investing in right now, because Nvidia is the driver of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get more investor analysis.

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<v Speaker 3>Joann fini It is a partner and portfolio manager of

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<v Speaker 3>Advis's Capital Management.

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<v Speaker 2>All on ten to Hooks the six thirty pm Pacific time.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, Caroline, Clearly Jensen will have a lot that he

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<v Speaker 8>can talk about and share with with his investor base.

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<v Speaker 8>And because he has a lot of good stories to tell.

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<v Speaker 9>The AI demand is not debating.

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<v Speaker 8>In fact, that news from Microsoft last week shows how

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<v Speaker 8>much more there is to be spent. And you know,

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<v Speaker 8>Jensen's talk will likely also hit plenty of other companies

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<v Speaker 8>that are more and more involved now in rolling out

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<v Speaker 8>AI applications, whether it's in robotics or autos or digital

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<v Speaker 8>twins or elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Just talk about how in video itself can own that.

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<v Speaker 3>What's been so phenomenal is the way in which you're

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<v Speaker 3>sort of getting virtually vertical integate gration. They can offer you,

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<v Speaker 3>of course the hardware, but he's rightly selling you the

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<v Speaker 3>software like a.

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<v Speaker 2>One stop shop.

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<v Speaker 3>How does he continue to iterate that into the era

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<v Speaker 3>and era of well apps and of course agents.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so, you know it has been a long time coming,

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<v Speaker 8>the development of the Nvidia specific songlfware for you know,

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<v Speaker 8>building computational models called Kuda. You know, he's been working

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<v Speaker 8>on that for decades and it's now fully integrated into

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<v Speaker 8>the hardware. And that creates a really deep moat, which

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<v Speaker 8>is why it's awfully hard for other companies to break

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<v Speaker 8>into this space. Not that we won't see them. We're

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<v Speaker 8>going to see AMD, We're going to see more and

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<v Speaker 8>more in house, but it creates a really strong platform

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<v Speaker 8>for Nvidia, and we expect tonight that he'll talk more

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<v Speaker 8>about how he's going to roll out more data centers

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<v Speaker 8>to run AI models for other folks. So he's not

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<v Speaker 8>going to be content I think to stick just with

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<v Speaker 8>the hardware and the software. I think he wants to

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<v Speaker 8>get into services to some extent, and it's not been

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<v Speaker 8>something that Nvidia has shied away from in the past,

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<v Speaker 8>that is competing with its customers.

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<v Speaker 3>What new you hoping to see when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>applications When it comes to robotics, you just mentioned it

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<v Speaker 3>for example.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so you know Cees is always full of dreamware

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<v Speaker 8>as well as reality and.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's always fun to see what small and.

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<v Speaker 8>Large companies roll out. But you know, robotics is clearly

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<v Speaker 8>an area for growth that's more near term. We already

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<v Speaker 8>see plenty of robotics, but they need to become smarter,

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<v Speaker 8>They need to become more physically adept and graceful, and

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<v Speaker 8>we think AI can really help in sensing the environment

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<v Speaker 8>and responding to it. But another area that's a little

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<v Speaker 8>bit more overlooked is digital twins. This is when you

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<v Speaker 8>build a model to replicate something in the real physical world,

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<v Speaker 8>and you use that model to save on costs to

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<v Speaker 8>improve design, whether that's a product, whether it's a building,

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<v Speaker 8>whether it's infrastructure, and we think AI can really inform

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<v Speaker 8>and make that a whole lot more efficient and improve designs.

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<v Speaker 8>We own a company called Bentley Systems, for example. It

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<v Speaker 8>provides software for management and development of construction and projects

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<v Speaker 8>in the infrastructure space. So that's an example of a

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<v Speaker 8>company that could be a growing beneficiary of the infiltration

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<v Speaker 8>of AI into that area.

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<v Speaker 3>We love how you bring up individual names, and of

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<v Speaker 3>course you do have exposure to video, but you also

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned AMD, there is the Amazon and even.

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<v Speaker 2>Broadcom in your portfolio.

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<v Speaker 3>Who else wins when it comes to what has just

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<v Speaker 3>been the n video ride, Well, you know clearly.

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<v Speaker 8>And NAMD, you know, providing those chips. Broadcom we have

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<v Speaker 8>owned for a very long time, and as they continue

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<v Speaker 8>to acquire and build new capabilities, we think that's going

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<v Speaker 8>to continue to be a really strong player in this

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<v Speaker 8>space and has a lot more room for the valuation

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<v Speaker 8>to improve. And beyond that, you know, look in new

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<v Speaker 8>applications in healthcare for example, you know companies that provide

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<v Speaker 8>new ways to monitor personal health, so software leveraged to healthcare,

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<v Speaker 8>new medical devices from for example, Medtronic that will bring

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<v Speaker 8>more and more smarter analytics. And then in industrials, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>whether it's that infrastructure build or you know, software to

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<v Speaker 8>oversee agricultural.

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<v Speaker 9>Developments, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 8>So you know, there are a lot of opportunities. We

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<v Speaker 8>do like those big names Microsoft, Amazon, because not only

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<v Speaker 8>does it have Amazon Web services, but online retail is

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<v Speaker 8>still gaining share. So there's still you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of opportunities out in the tech space for continued growth

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<v Speaker 8>this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Advice's capital management partner Joann Feeney, brilliant to have your

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<v Speaker 3>take on the trends and the individual companies as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up, we're gonna be talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's tariff position, the President elect denying reports of the

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<v Speaker 3>potential pairing back of.

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<v Speaker 2>His tariff plans.

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<v Speaker 3>More on that next, but first we return to another

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<v Speaker 3>key leader who today resigns his position as Liberal Party leader,

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Trudeau. The Canadian Parliament will be suspended it on

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<v Speaker 3>March the twenty fourth. Go to Life, Go for more.

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<v Speaker 2>Lister Blomberg Technology, did I the conver.

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<v Speaker 10>You spoke about the Liberal Party as an institution and

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<v Speaker 10>the internal battles right now. But I'm wondering if you

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<v Speaker 10>feel that another leader will have more success than you

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<v Speaker 10>will at beating preclium.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, the Washington Post reported the President elects Trump's are

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<v Speaker 3>said to be looking at tariff plans that could be

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<v Speaker 3>applied to every country, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Only covering critical imports.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump has denied those reports through your post on True

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<v Speaker 3>Social saying it's quote incorrect and that he won't be

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<v Speaker 3>pairing back his tariff policy. Let's get out to blue

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<v Speaker 3>Bags Mike Shepherd for more and just where are we

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<v Speaker 3>on the latest of the tariff debate.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it's unfolding still, Caroline. This is one of the

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<v Speaker 11>biggest questions surrounding the incoming Trump administration's economic policy, together

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<v Speaker 11>with his plans to cut taxes and his plans and immigration,

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<v Speaker 11>and these are areas that would affect key industries, especially tech,

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<v Speaker 11>and yet we don't have a clear picture from what

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<v Speaker 11>we saw in this back and forth between the Post

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<v Speaker 11>and then Trump today. No matter what, industries are going

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<v Speaker 11>to be looking at what the tariffs could mean for them,

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<v Speaker 11>and it's really two key areas. One it would be

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<v Speaker 11>the increased costs of any inputs that they have in

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<v Speaker 11>their production lines. And the other thing that they will

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<v Speaker 11>be worried about is possible retaliation by US trading partners.

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<v Speaker 11>It could mean that US products, for instance, anything made

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<v Speaker 11>by Apple or other name brand American companies could be

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<v Speaker 11>hit or targeted in retaliation in response to anything that

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<v Speaker 11>Trump does. Now, it's important to note Trump still doesn't

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<v Speaker 11>take office for another two weeks, and this will take

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<v Speaker 11>shape over a matter of months, not just in the

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<v Speaker 11>span of the time between now January twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike shefferd it's going to be our daily dose until

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<v Speaker 3>that time, an onwards.

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<v Speaker 2>We thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, let's talk about politics and take a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>One person within Trump's sphere, you know, Musk is now

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<v Speaker 3>under scrutiny by senior UK politicians.

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<v Speaker 2>This after the Tesla boss.

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<v Speaker 3>Made a series of inflammatory remarks accusing Prime Minister Kastama

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<v Speaker 3>of complicitly involved in a decades old scandal over child

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<v Speaker 3>sexual exportation gangs. Max Schaffkin, a blombag BusinessWeek joins US

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<v Speaker 3>fund more and look, this is following a barrage of

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<v Speaker 3>posts on his own social media platform x where he

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<v Speaker 3>has been calling for prior Minister kiss Stama to be imprisoned.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been urging with the release of Tommy Robinson, who

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<v Speaker 3>is a far right leader, and ultimately stirring up even

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<v Speaker 3>the surprising move away from Nigel Farage.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the leader of the UK Reform Why is he

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<v Speaker 2>getting so involved? Well, I think two things are going on.

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<v Speaker 12>One and probably the most important thing is Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 12>is stirring the pot on social media. This is somebody

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<v Speaker 12>who likes to be a provocateur. He basically goes wherever

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<v Speaker 12>there's heat. You know, we saw this during the twenty

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<v Speaker 12>twenty four election, where he's sort of spreading you know,

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<v Speaker 12>unfounded conspiracy theories, backing questionable figures. Really the same playbook

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<v Speaker 12>we're seeing, you know in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>The difference is, of course that.

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<v Speaker 12>Elon Musk lives in the United States and has sort

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<v Speaker 12>of more explicitly engaged politically. Here we have a guy

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<v Speaker 12>who's not really doesn't have a ton of business interests

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<v Speaker 12>in the UK getting involved, you know, initially backing Nigel

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<v Speaker 12>Farage's party, now coming out against Nigel Farage. It really

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<v Speaker 12>feels like a combination of again stirring the pot, but

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<v Speaker 12>also perhaps having a real disagreement with kerstar Or over

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<v Speaker 12>some of these speech rights. Of course, X has had

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<v Speaker 12>you know, some back and forth with the British government

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<v Speaker 12>over you know, how he should regulate misinformation and that

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<v Speaker 12>sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Kis Dama now speaking back.

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<v Speaker 3>He had been relatively silent, but now he says there's

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<v Speaker 3>a line that has been crossed, particularly when it came

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<v Speaker 3>to the safety of one of his own MPs.

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<v Speaker 2>Just Phillips all.

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<v Speaker 3>Regarding previous roles in the Crown Prosecution Service that when

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<v Speaker 3>he was leading, but away from the intricacies of really

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on in the UK, how does it affect

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<v Speaker 3>Ino must relationship with Trump going forward and the administration there,

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<v Speaker 3>because as we reported, these UK senior figures are coming

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<v Speaker 3>out and saying this is bad for US UK relationship.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I mean it's I do think people realize people

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<v Speaker 12>in the UK realize that Elon Musk and Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 12>are two different people. There may be a close relationship,

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<v Speaker 12>but you know, of course Trump is going to make

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<v Speaker 12>his own policy, and of course historically Trump has kind

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<v Speaker 12>of cultivated ties with extreme figures who would sometimes come

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<v Speaker 12>out and stir the pot and almost gives Trump a

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<v Speaker 12>weapon perhaps in dealing with UK politicians. That said, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>Tommy Robinson is a very extreme figure, a far right figure,

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<v Speaker 12>and I think it's you know, the sort of back

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<v Speaker 12>and forth with Farraj shows that it's possible that Musk

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<v Speaker 12>may have crossed the line. Maybe he didn't quite know

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<v Speaker 12>what he was stepping into.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see how this continues to unfold. Max trafckn all

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<v Speaker 3>things elon Ink. You've got to check out the podcast

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Disney and streaming provider Fubo TV are nearing a deal

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<v Speaker 3>to combine their online live TV businesses. Now we understand

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<v Speaker 3>that Disney is going to be folding in its Hulu

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<v Speaker 3>plus live TV business into Fubo, creating a new venture

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<v Speaker 3>that will be owned seventy percent by Disney and the

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<v Speaker 3>rest by Fubo. It continues to be listed on publicly

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<v Speaker 3>traded benchmarks and Lucas Shaw is here too get into

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<v Speaker 3>what is actually a pretty complex deal. But the key

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<v Speaker 3>takeaway is Venue, which is the new sports offering, is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be able to go ahead.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, Bubo had sue to block the debut of Venue,

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<v Speaker 13>which is a joint venture between Disney, Fox and Warner Brothers. Discovery.

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<v Speaker 13>They said it was a sign of the anti competitive

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<v Speaker 13>nature of these big companies because Venue was going to

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<v Speaker 13>offer a bundle of live sports channels in a way

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<v Speaker 13>that these companies wouldn't let Fubo do. The lawsuit proved

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<v Speaker 13>to be pretty effective for Fubo, right, they won the

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<v Speaker 13>first injunction or they want an injunction to stop it.

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<v Speaker 13>And now they're essentially getting acquired for a bunch of money.

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<v Speaker 3>Bunch of money that sends shares rocketing my one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ninety percent the six point two million that they're

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<v Speaker 3>likely to now offer.

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<v Speaker 2>How big is that?

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<v Speaker 3>What does it mean in terms of how they can

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<v Speaker 3>survive the on and off switch of subscriptions around the

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<v Speaker 3>sporting dary.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so both Fubo and Hulu's live TV service are unprofitable.

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<v Speaker 13>To my knowledge. Fubo reports its numbers, Hulu Live Tv doesn't.

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<v Speaker 13>Six point two million makes it the second biggest among

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<v Speaker 13>the digital only PATV companies. It makes it, I think,

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<v Speaker 13>kind of number five or six total. You still have

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<v Speaker 13>YouTube TV, Comcast, Charter and the satellite companies ahead of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh M and A.

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<v Speaker 3>The watchwork for twenty twenty five, and it kicks off

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<v Speaker 3>strong with this particular deal. Lukashaw all in on the

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<v Speaker 3>consideration around convergence. Welcome back to Blue Meg Technology. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Caroine Hid in New York. A quick check on these markets.

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<v Speaker 2>We are higher.

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<v Speaker 3>Substantially on the nasat one hundred, were up by one

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<v Speaker 3>point seven percent, and it's basically your magnificent seven that

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<v Speaker 3>lead us higher to the tune of Nvidia up to

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<v Speaker 3>a new record high. But you've got Microsoft, Amazon, some

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<v Speaker 3>of the key names in the biggest points contributors to

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<v Speaker 3>the upside. We're all in on AI and infrastructure, and

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<v Speaker 3>we look ahead to Jensen Wang and his keynote has

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<v Speaker 3>six thirty pm Pacific time later today. Bitcoin also on

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<v Speaker 3>file risk assets on the higher side, and we're up

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<v Speaker 3>four percent. One hundred and two still offer that record high,

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<v Speaker 3>but we've certainly been clawing back some of those prem

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<v Speaker 3>year's eve losses by coin one hundred and two thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's dig into a company that isn't traded, TikTok

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<v Speaker 3>and it's darker side.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lawsuit from the state of Utah alleging that

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok has long known its popular video live streams it

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<v Speaker 3>encourages sexual content including streams exploiting and quick grooming miners,

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<v Speaker 3>and that TikTok also discovered through an internal investigation it's

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<v Speaker 3>feature called TikTok Live facilitated money laundering and it allowed

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<v Speaker 3>users to sell drugs and fund terrorism. That's bring in

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<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg's Alex Levine for more Alex. That all of this

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<v Speaker 3>is after we finally get more detail on a lawsuit

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<v Speaker 3>brought by Utah and other states, but it's been relacted.

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<v Speaker 2>We get to see the details. What did you learn?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, to your point, all of this really is it

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<v Speaker 14>has taken a lot of time for this to come

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<v Speaker 14>to light. I reported on TikTok Live and some of

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<v Speaker 14>the issues that you've stated back in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 14>we're now in early twenty twenty five, and so it is,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, it is the platform is much bigger now,

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<v Speaker 14>it is much more far reaching. There are much more,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, much younger of a demographic on the platform.

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<v Speaker 14>But what the internal investigation found, which was unredacted in

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<v Speaker 14>this newly filed complaint on Friday, is that TikTok was

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<v Speaker 14>very aware of a lot of the issues that we

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<v Speaker 14>had reported on on TikTok Live back in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 14>except that the issues were much larger and much there

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<v Speaker 14>was much more scale to the issues than we were

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<v Speaker 14>even aware of. So they found that there were hundreds

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<v Speaker 14>of thousands of miners who were not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 14>using the TikTok Live future at all, who were not

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<v Speaker 14>only using it but also using it making money off

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<v Speaker 14>or making money off of it, and they were essentially

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<v Speaker 14>being asked by adults to perform sexual acts racy acts

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<v Speaker 14>in exchange for virtual gifts that can be cashed out

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<v Speaker 14>for real money.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>In a response, TikTok says, this lawsuit ignores a number

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<v Speaker 3>of proactive measures that TikTok has voluntarily implemented to support

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<v Speaker 3>community safety and well being. They have taken measures since

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<v Speaker 3>your first incredible reporting that we think about that was

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<v Speaker 3>bringing it to light in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>But is it enough?

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<v Speaker 3>Has enough steps been taken for Utah and other states

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<v Speaker 3>to feel like this is okay now?

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<v Speaker 14>I think the timing of these lawsuits filed both in

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<v Speaker 14>June by Utah and then in September by a bunch

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<v Speaker 14>of other states that cited similar issues with TikTok Live

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<v Speaker 14>shows that it is not enough, especially against the backdrop

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<v Speaker 14>of what we are now seeing with the national security issues.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, TikTok is going before the Supreme Court in

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<v Speaker 14>this unprecedented hearing this Friday, and that is over national

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<v Speaker 14>security issues and the fact that TikTok may be banned

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<v Speaker 14>over those national security issues. But I think the child

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<v Speaker 14>safety issues far predated that, and in fact, the fact

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<v Speaker 14>that they are so prevalent on the platform, which this

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<v Speaker 14>unredacted complaint has now shown, makes the national security concerns,

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<v Speaker 14>I would say even even more concerning.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you mentioned, this is a massive week for TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got Friday the Supreme Court, we might be hearing

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<v Speaker 3>the details of whether or not indeed they do think

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<v Speaker 3>that well freedom of speech outweighs access to TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>Llor not absolutely. It's a huge week for TikTok.

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<v Speaker 14>I think that everyone is very much looking to the

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<v Speaker 14>Supreme Court to see are they going to up hold

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<v Speaker 14>this law that is about to take effect or will

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<v Speaker 14>they stay the law, which means hit pause on it

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<v Speaker 14>while considering what they want to do with it. But

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<v Speaker 14>I think the fact that Trump's inauguration is just over

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<v Speaker 14>a week later is going to complicate things and it's

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<v Speaker 14>going to make it a very bumpy couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 14>for the company no matter how this plays out.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're just glad that you're there to report on

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<v Speaker 3>all of it. Alexandra Levine, We thank you. Now let's

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<v Speaker 3>just keep the discussions going on TikTok it's potential ban,

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<v Speaker 3>and as you mentioned, the Supreme Court set to consider

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<v Speaker 3>the constitutionality of the law on an expedited timeline, arguments

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<v Speaker 3>scheduled for a special session on January tenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, we want to be talking with a key voice

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<v Speaker 2>on all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Ivan Sharony is CEO for Route Security, a data protection

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<v Speaker 3>intelligence software company who is testified, of course before the

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<v Speaker 3>House Commerce Committee in the past, to explain how TikTok accesses,

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<v Speaker 3>how it disseminates personal data, and just remind us, ultimately, Ivan,

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<v Speaker 3>how it does.

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<v Speaker 15>That's an excellent question, thank you, Carlin. Number one, how

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<v Speaker 15>does it? It's obviously through its app and secondly is

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<v Speaker 15>through a lot of something called data trickers that are

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<v Speaker 15>embedded into all kinds of websites Americans use every day.

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<v Speaker 15>So that's how they can access information, collect informations on

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<v Speaker 15>Americans that actually never even use TikTok app in their life.

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<v Speaker 3>What's also interesting is the way in which you've been

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<v Speaker 3>trying to access and continuing to understand that those, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you might have the app, you might therefore be vaguely

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<v Speaker 3>aware of some of the issues or risks that are

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<v Speaker 3>at play. But even if you don't have the app,

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<v Speaker 3>you continue to monitor basically how pixels or more prevalent,

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<v Speaker 3>even in things like Google Classroom, TikTok has been. Can

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<v Speaker 3>you understand can you help us understand how you performed

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<v Speaker 3>that and ultimately what it means for the prevalence of

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok across us people's data.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 15>Absolutely. What is really concerning, what we've found is that

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<v Speaker 15>even over the last twelve months since TikTok was there's

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<v Speaker 15>so much scrutiny. What we've found is that the presence

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<v Speaker 15>of TikTok, for example, on a healthcare website had actually

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<v Speaker 15>increased by about thirty five percent in the last year,

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<v Speaker 15>rather than decreasing. And what is concerning is that those

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<v Speaker 15>pixel structures that are all over the websites that we

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<v Speaker 15>all use on every day, that they're collecting a lot

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<v Speaker 15>of information, whether it's like wood websites you use would

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<v Speaker 15>you enter into the websites where you're coming in, and

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<v Speaker 15>all kinds of information that is collected can potentially be

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<v Speaker 15>used for all kinds of nefarious reasons, whether it's for

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<v Speaker 15>targeting individuals or groups of people, or even potentially speculating

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<v Speaker 15>here teaching AI systems to be even more precise on

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<v Speaker 15>targeting American So it's a very very concerning on how

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<v Speaker 15>much data is being collected everywhere by TikTok on people

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<v Speaker 15>who never even use the app.

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<v Speaker 3>So if ultimately the presence of TikTok trackers are going

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<v Speaker 3>up into the right of thirty five percent versus last year,

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<v Speaker 3>how impactful we will be removed moving an app if

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<v Speaker 3>it's affecting people who don't have the Apple Tool.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, So it's definitely very loaded topic and a question.

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<v Speaker 15>So presumably if it is banned, the step one will

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<v Speaker 15>be obviously to remove the app it self from the

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 15>app stores, from Apple, Google and everywhere else is available. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 15>it's also removing it from all Americans websites, so making

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<v Speaker 15>sure that it's not collecting information on Americans outside of

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<v Speaker 15>the app as well. And thirdly, which will be an

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<v Speaker 15>ongoing task to ensure that it will never come back,

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<v Speaker 15>and frankly speaking, it's not just TikTok. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 15>more other information being collected by other companies associated to

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<v Speaker 15>China on Americans in addition to to TikTok as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So iven just give us out of one to ten

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<v Speaker 3>how hard it would be too?

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds easy. You just remove it from the app store,

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<v Speaker 2>you get rid of it on websites. But technically speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>how effective do you think this can be?

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<v Speaker 15>It can be definitely very active. Probably a really good

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<v Speaker 15>illustration here is something that is happening in the payment

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<v Speaker 15>security in this credit cards being governed. You know how

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<v Speaker 15>you're paying online and how the security of your credit

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<v Speaker 15>card information is being governed. And what payment security is

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<v Speaker 15>doing is they've introduced something called the New Standard PCI

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<v Speaker 15>for which now ensures and mandates companies on a weekly basis.

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<v Speaker 15>It verifies that no unauthorized software, big pixel structors, anything else,

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<v Speaker 15>any software technology pieces are collecting credit card information without authorization.

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<v Speaker 15>So a similar approach can definitely help prevent TikTok or

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<v Speaker 15>other spying or you know, a data collection being down

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<v Speaker 15>Americans without authorization.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, of course, the Supreme Court matter is a

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<v Speaker 3>matter of law and interpretation, and there is politicking amongst

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<v Speaker 3>you know whether or not January the nineteenth will be

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<v Speaker 3>pushed out to post a new administration in the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>But can you set if you were having the air

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<v Speaker 3>of one Donald Trump right now, how would you articulate

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<v Speaker 3>how risky this is for everyday Americans?

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<v Speaker 15>How risk it is. It has already been publicly admitted

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<v Speaker 15>and found and disclosed that information collected by TikTok was

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<v Speaker 15>already used against Americans, whether it was spying on journalists

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<v Speaker 15>and other cases that have been already reported in in use.

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<v Speaker 15>So it is already happening, and is it happening on

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<v Speaker 15>a larger scale very likely. So in terms of the

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<v Speaker 15>impact data being collected and shared potentially with the adversarial country,

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<v Speaker 15>is it a risk in my personal opinion, yes, it

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<v Speaker 15>is a very high risk.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, certainly your evidence gave sway when you gave it

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<v Speaker 3>on the House as well, Ivan SARENI, we thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much for youo for security on all things TikTok. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>coming up, how Microsoft is using its venture fund to shape.

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<v Speaker 2>The future of AI.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got Michael Stewart, managing partner of N twelve here

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<v Speaker 3>that's next to rebtechnology. Microsoft it's making a major AI investment,

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<v Speaker 3>announcing it will spend eighty billion dollars on data centers

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<v Speaker 3>over the next year. The company wrote previously that not

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<v Speaker 3>since the invention of the electricity has the United States

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<v Speaker 3>had the opportunity it has today to harness new technology

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<v Speaker 3>to invigorate the nation's economy. Now, Microsoft is also investing

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<v Speaker 3>in AI through its venture capital fund M twelve, calling

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<v Speaker 3>it the defining technology of our times. Please therefore to

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<v Speaker 3>welcome Michael Stewart, managing partner of M twelve, who has

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<v Speaker 3>been at this AIML hardware software investment for a long time. Michael,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're pleased to have you. So, where are other

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<v Speaker 3>than the AI applications? I want to just dig into

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<v Speaker 3>that idea of data centers and the commitment of money

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<v Speaker 3>towards it. Where are innovations happening within the data centers?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 16>So, uh, the the the demand that we're gonna see

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<v Speaker 16>for AI as as some of these applications start to

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<v Speaker 16>roll out this year and the next year, is is

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<v Speaker 16>gonna really accelerate. And it's key not just to have

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<v Speaker 16>an AI that's available, but it's also performance, affordable, secure,

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<v Speaker 16>and and in in In doing that, it's not just

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<v Speaker 16>about building out more GPUs, more data centers, but actually

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<v Speaker 16>increasing the quality of the AI output to be UH

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<v Speaker 16>suitable for enterprise use. In that and in that sense,

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<v Speaker 16>what we're seeing right now is building out kind of

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<v Speaker 16>the foundation for a lot of different places for technologies

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<v Speaker 16>to plug in to make this AI better for for

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<v Speaker 16>its customers.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanna talk optimizing of applications, but can you go

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<v Speaker 3>to the optimizing of AI infrastructure right now and where

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<v Speaker 3>you think some of the most exciting moves forward have.

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<v Speaker 16>Been Efficient chips are are are clearly an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 16>address not just the uh the space and the racks

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<v Speaker 16>that we have to put, you know, in the data centers,

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<v Speaker 16>but also the power that goes into them. And you

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<v Speaker 16>know that's one of our portfolio companies, d Matrix that

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 16>makes an innovative in memory compute architecture for AI inference.

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 16>The compute and memory are are are kind of combined

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 16>into one in a new architecture that also uses chiplets

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 16>or heterogeneous integration to flexibly maximize the performance of the

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 16>silicon that you need in.

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<v Speaker 3>A given card, and that in many ways affects the

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<v Speaker 3>energy usage as well power needed And I know energy

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<v Speaker 3>innovation is another key area of yours, Michael, but taught

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 3>us there for about how we're going to use it.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty twenty five, all I hear is agents, agent, force, agentic.

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 2>No matter how you term it, is it all about agents.

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<v Speaker 16>I'm not gonna sound too different from that. I'm a

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<v Speaker 16>strong believer that this year, the quality of the AI models,

0:34:55.520 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 16>the architecture of the agentic applications, they're going to get

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<v Speaker 16>better and better and attract more attention from companies that

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 16>want to use them to address their own.

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<v Speaker 9>Costs and scaling needs. And we're seeing this come in

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<v Speaker 9>two directions.

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 16>Startups that are creating agents or platforms for agents and

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 16>selling them as services, a sort of SaaS model. The

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 16>other is the use of the AI itself in these

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 16>small companies. Is is something to really start to look at.

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 16>These founders are building the companies with an AI first

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 16>mindset that's really quite different. But it's also going to

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 16>inspire and stimulate larger companies to take note at the

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 16>efficiencies enabled and adopt this into their own uh their

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 16>own infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 3>But I feel like the larger software players have already

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 3>got the memo and you're seeing the likes of sales

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<v Speaker 3>Source go all in your who knows where, of course,

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Microsoft be able to push forwards with its co pilots.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you seeing the opportunity of the.

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Startups to be able to innovate faster or in a

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<v Speaker 3>more niche manner.

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<v Speaker 16>And fast, you know, as you use word fast, velocity

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 16>is the absolute definitive trend of this era. Everything's moving faster,

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 16>Companies getting form faster, funded faster, growing revenue faster, and

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 16>agents as they mature and as they become part of

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 16>the everyday makeup of these companies themselves, are you know,

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 16>at the same time the product but also the organizing

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 16>principle of these companies. And I think that's a different

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<v Speaker 16>way to look at this from where we expect to

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<v Speaker 16>see SaaS revenues build up over time as it happened

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<v Speaker 16>in the in the prior couple of years software investing contexts.

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<v Speaker 16>To today, the companies are able to accomplish far more

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<v Speaker 16>with a much smaller team, reach revenue targets far greater

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<v Speaker 16>than we had expected, and I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 16>be profitable much sooner than we had otherwise thought possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Fast doesn't always bode well for deep analysis and doing

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 3>your corporate governance tease trust and as dotted, how are

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 3>you ensuring that the return on investment that it seems

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 3>to be evident is actually happening and it's actually going

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 3>to be resigned that these companies aren't just scaling very

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:20.800
<v Speaker 3>quickly over a quarter, but they're going to maintain that

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<v Speaker 3>user base for the next year and the next year.

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<v Speaker 16>ROIS is the key theme here is like, if you

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 16>are a founder and you are creating an AI product,

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<v Speaker 16>this isn't just about creating a white paper that your

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<v Speaker 16>customer might read to see where the ROI could plausibly

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<v Speaker 16>occur in their organization. This is really an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 16>those founders to go out and drive those pilots themselves.

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<v Speaker 16>The customers will see these savings hit their bottom line,

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<v Speaker 16>thereby driving more consumption of AI. And I think that

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<v Speaker 16>kind of virtuous cycle is a really big difference from

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<v Speaker 16>prior eras of a where the savings might come in

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<v Speaker 16>a defrayed expenses or defrayed capex point of view. Here

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<v Speaker 16>it's about getting higher return on capital, higher return on

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<v Speaker 16>the company's operations. And I think as a startup you

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<v Speaker 16>really have to get serious about the intellectual honesty of it,

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<v Speaker 16>and your customers must agree with you. Those those startups

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<v Speaker 16>that are able to accomplish that are going to grow

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<v Speaker 16>ten times faster than the norm.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we know that you'll takes one to know one,

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<v Speaker 3>or you're a guy with more than forty patterns of

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<v Speaker 3>your own, so appreciate your time. Michael Stewart, managing partner

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<v Speaker 3>of M twelve. Of course Microsoft VENTUREM. Meanwhile, it's time

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<v Speaker 3>for talking tech first up in video partner on High

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<v Speaker 3>It's posted a fast than expected fifteen percent revenue growth,

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<v Speaker 3>that is as the company rides a sustained demand for

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<v Speaker 3>AI infrastructure. The company, also known as Fox Gone sow

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<v Speaker 3>December revenue rising forty two percent, which really did beat

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<v Speaker 3>first quarter two plus. TDK, the main supplier of iPhone batteries,

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<v Speaker 3>rising power demands view guests at ai now. The Tokyo

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<v Speaker 3>based company says it will begin mass production of its

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<v Speaker 3>third gen batteries in the late summer and Samsung is

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<v Speaker 3>expanding its AI reach, adding.

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<v Speaker 2>A new suite of features to its line up.

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<v Speaker 3>A premium TVs now the Electronic strand is set to

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<v Speaker 3>introduce Vision AI. It's allowing information to be displayed of

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<v Speaker 3>AI processor to analyze content whose colors and contrast, and

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<v Speaker 3>optimized audio Tube. Today, we bring you the latest from

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<v Speaker 3>an exclusive Bloomberg BusinessWeek interview as with the Open Ai

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<v Speaker 3>CEO Samalman. In it, he discusses his infamous Forda firing,

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<v Speaker 3>how he runs open ai now, his plans for the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump must presidency, and of course, his relentless pursuit of AGI.

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<v Speaker 3>Here for more Bloomberg Smart million Who's part of what

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<v Speaker 3>is very deeply reported out Q and A. So it

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<v Speaker 3>starts with all like, what were the key dinners, What

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<v Speaker 3>were the key moments him sam Oltman discussing the time

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<v Speaker 3>that he sat down with Elia really started to think

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<v Speaker 3>about building AGI.

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<v Speaker 2>What for you was the biggest like jaw dropping moment

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<v Speaker 2>of the interview?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 17>I mean, I think the thing that surprised me the

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<v Speaker 17>most is when he's given like the opportunity to talk

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<v Speaker 17>about what what are your what are your big ambitions?

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<v Speaker 9>What what do you want to solve?

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<v Speaker 17>He talks about fusion energy like that that's that that's

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<v Speaker 17>the one thing that he I mean, you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 17>he's focused on creating super intelligent supercomputers and artificial general

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<v Speaker 17>intelligence and all these uh, you know, wacky ideas that

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<v Speaker 17>they're working on in open AI. But he's got this

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<v Speaker 17>big investment in fusion energy, which is like sort of

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<v Speaker 17>a kind of a scary.

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<v Speaker 9>Concept to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 17>That and and also one that like is it is

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<v Speaker 17>it even really going to work? Has science really proven

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<v Speaker 17>that fusion energy is like going to solve all of

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<v Speaker 17>our energy shortage issues?

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<v Speaker 9>But like energy is a big kind of need for AI,

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<v Speaker 9>which you know sucks up so much electricity.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's not afraid to be way ahead and trying

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<v Speaker 3>to solve the unsolvable. He really details how back in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twelve he's sort of a heretic for even discussing AGI,

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<v Speaker 3>and people didn't want to talk about it with him.

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<v Speaker 3>But what does he ultimately think that this is all

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<v Speaker 3>for the greater good? Is there a utopian idea here

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<v Speaker 3>as to why we need nuclear fusion, why we need AGI?

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, I mean there's also a lot of ways that

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<v Speaker 17>any of those things could go wrong, but he is

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<v Speaker 17>I think you'll see it in the tone of the interview,

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<v Speaker 17>and you'll you'll find it when you read this.

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<v Speaker 9>It's it's a long read, so, but I think.

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<v Speaker 17>The context is important with someone like that who's in

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<v Speaker 17>such a big position of power, that you kind of

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<v Speaker 17>get a sense for who he is as a person.

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<v Speaker 17>And he is an optimist and he does believe that

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<v Speaker 17>the things he's working on he can shape them for

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<v Speaker 17>the better.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with a new administration.

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<v Speaker 17>Yes, and that was that was a that was ak

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<v Speaker 17>of the interview, especially in the latter half. You'll see

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<v Speaker 17>we talk about his relationship with Donald Trump, who he's

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<v Speaker 17>previous previously had differences of opinion with his relationship with

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<v Speaker 17>Elon Musk, who that it's very strained, a co founder

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<v Speaker 17>of open ai now suing open Ai, and his his

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<v Speaker 17>optimism very much extended to the idea that he'll be

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<v Speaker 17>able to repair those relationships and have a working relationship

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<v Speaker 17>in the new administration. He's asked about his donation to

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<v Speaker 17>Trump's inauguration and and you know, of course, he's like,

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<v Speaker 17>I support whoever the president is, and yeah, I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 9>Found that all very fascinating. His view on politics me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Go read it. You've got to see Mark million there

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<v Speaker 2>on the latest big take.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that does it for this edition of Blue meg

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<v Speaker 3>Technology Tomorrow yet more, all from.

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<v Speaker 2>CS in Las Vegas tens Huang. Don't miss it.