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Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to a Monday edition President's Day. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't stop us from doing Texans All Access. In fact,

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Speaker 1: it probably puts a little bit more pep in our steps.

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Speaker 1: We remember the great presidents that have graced this great nation,

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Speaker 1: and so we celebrated by talking football. Meet John Harris

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Speaker 1: and Mark Vandamir Mark. Good evening. How are you, sir.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk politics. No, let's not never never. I said

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Speaker 1: this a long time in radio. There's two things you're

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Speaker 1: never gonna get me to talk about on radio, religion

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Speaker 1: and politics. Never gonna talk about him. That's a pretty

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Speaker 1: safe bet. If you stay away from those two things, Yep,

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Speaker 1: you'll be okay. Yep, seemingly be okay. Some people going

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Speaker 1: to adhere to that. One thing I liked, though, when

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Speaker 1: I do talk politics, not on the radio, is the

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Speaker 1: marketing of candidates. You know, just the sheer running the campaign,

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Speaker 1: no matter what side it is, running the campaign, and

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Speaker 1: how that goes, and the positioning and you know, do

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Speaker 1: they make this speech here, that speech there, how do

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Speaker 1: they counter Just it's really interesting to me how everybody

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Speaker 1: does it, no matter what party they're from, Because that's strategy,

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Speaker 1: that's marketing. You know, I know it's high states, it's

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Speaker 1: very important. It's politics after all, But I find that

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Speaker 1: very interesting, Yes, very much so. I find interesting Devin

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Speaker 1: Hester and Brian Urlocker, who we're gonna hear from a

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Speaker 1: little later in the show. But Mark, I'm gonna start.

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Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned it talking about, you know, right

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Speaker 1: off the bat, a little bit of politics. But there's

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Speaker 1: some NFL politics and politicking seemingly going on right now

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Speaker 1: as it pertains to twenty twenty two scouting combine. And

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Speaker 1: I'm over here pulling my hair out. Now hopefully I've

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Speaker 1: got a lot more hair to pull out, unlike the

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Speaker 1: follically challenged people that we know. But I see one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty players are boy I hear the word boycott,

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Speaker 1: and I hear agents banding together. I'm like, oh man.

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Speaker 1: Then Adam Schefter put out a tweet today essentially saying, look,

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Speaker 1: the way this has been structured has not made prospects

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Speaker 1: all that happy. They don't think it's going to make

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Speaker 1: for great performance. What's your gut tell you about this

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Speaker 1: whole combined situation, how it's going to go down over

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Speaker 1: the next eight days. Well, it's funny that the Union

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Speaker 1: is against the big bubble when the union was really

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Speaker 1: for ultimate safety, right all in. When you talk about

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Speaker 1: the way the team the league was playing football in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, wasn't the union pushing

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Speaker 1: for daily testing prior to the start of the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one season for everybody? Yes, So that's a little

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Speaker 1: surprising to me, But I'm sure there's some logic to

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Speaker 1: it somewhere. Look right now, I feel like we're between variants.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like people who are between marriages or

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Speaker 1: between jobs, between variants, all right, can we just live

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Speaker 1: a little? Yeah, that's how I feel. Yeah, this will

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Speaker 1: I think that. And this is where it's kind of

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Speaker 1: tricky because the NFLPA is actually speaking for a group

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Speaker 1: and so it's kind of the agent speaking for the players.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, there's some there's just some things that

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Speaker 1: have got to cleared up. Get cleared up. But we

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Speaker 1: time and next week we will be in Indianapolis getting

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Speaker 1: ready for a said combine, and hopefully we'll get a

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Speaker 1: hear from coaches and gms. We'll hear from Lovey Smith

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Speaker 1: and of course from GM Nick Kissario. I believe we're

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Speaker 1: and at the combine. I mean, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassarrio. Oh, we're gonna have Nick on either Wednesday

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Speaker 1: And then next week we're gonna have everybody on. Mike Keith,

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Speaker 1: the Voice of the Titans, was contacting me today. Can

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Speaker 1: he be on my show? He said, And obviously we're

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Speaker 1: We'll see. We always see a ton of media guys.

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Speaker 1: not just the players. It's a convention for the league

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Speaker 1: post super Bowl, and it really is the pre free

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Speaker 1: the NFL media. We talked with different play by play voices,

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Speaker 1: you know, people around the league, national folks as well.

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Speaker 1: And then when news goes down like You're right in

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Speaker 1: how many times I've seen a tweet and I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 1: I was right there. I heard that whole thing. I

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Speaker 1: was just listen to interef. You heard that same thing.

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Speaker 1: You're like right in the middle of it. So it

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Speaker 1: That convention center funnels you through to a lot of

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Speaker 1: send a team. I'm very very soft nowdays. Mark, I'm

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Speaker 1: full list as the Texans announced their twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: coaching staff today. We've known about Lovey Smith, we knew

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go through the entire Mark, but

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Speaker 1: there are a few names that stand out, and I'll

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Speaker 1: eighteen but he has been obviously with Bill O'Brien, Romeo Cornell,

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Speaker 1: Guy named Troy Anderson, who is just an unbelievable story.

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Speaker 1: Dnarius in the same building. But sometimes the world start

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Speaker 1: enough to see this. But those are some of the

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Speaker 1: Dnarius McGhee, who was He's got this infectious smile, He's

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Speaker 1: Lovey Smith. Johnny, don't you look at these guys who

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Speaker 1: he is. You just want to perform well because you know,

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Speaker 1: number one, he expects it of you, but he also

425
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Speaker 1: believes you can do it. Just I'm so happy for him,

426
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: so so happy that EMA's family got another head coaching job. Yeah.

427
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Speaker 1: A few moments ago I spoke in this same sort

428
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Speaker 1: of situation with one of your former teammates, Devin Hester,

429
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Speaker 1: and he said, oh, yeah, type of guy. He'd run

430
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Speaker 1: through a wall. Four, you'd break your head open. Four. No,

431
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Speaker 1: we don't want the text he to do any of that.

432
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Speaker 1: Speak a little bit more of that, because Hester was

433
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Speaker 1: talking about how he's a player's coach because he would

434
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Speaker 1: seek input or welcome input when you guys had bright ideas. Yeah,

435
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: that's an important thing, isn't it. You know, he's a

436
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Speaker 1: defensive head coach, which I really enjoyed it because I

437
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: played defense obviously, but you know, we don't have ideas

438
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: during the week, and he'd ask, he'd openly ask us,

439
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: what do you think about this situation? What do you

440
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: think about that? And if we didn't like it, he

441
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: would throw it out. You know, it's just nice to

442
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: be able, because if you're in a situation in the

443
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Speaker 1: game and you don't you know, even in practice, and

444
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Speaker 1: you don't like the defense you're playing or the call,

445
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: probably not gonna be good for you. If it makes

446
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: you uncomfortable in practice. Probably got me the same wain

447
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: in the game. So he would always listen to us,

448
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: always ask for our input. We had meetings, you know,

449
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: weekly with our leadership leadership cancel. He called it basically

450
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Speaker 1: a screw around meeting for twenty minutes during the week

451
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Speaker 1: with five of us. But he's just so fun to

452
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: talk to, you know, great family man. Obviously, he who

453
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: knows him knows that. God, there's so many superitis I

454
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Speaker 1: want to use to talk about him. He's just he's amazing.

455
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,959
Speaker 1: It's a good man. Like I said, you don't want

456
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Speaker 1: to let him down. Just a great, great hire for

457
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Speaker 1: the Texans. Yeah, and he's only been in Houston for

458
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: a year. But a lot of the stuff you're saying,

459
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Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff we heard from Hester, we've

460
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Speaker 1: seen today on social media from a lot of the

461
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Speaker 1: guys who played for him, and we heard about it

462
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: during the year, and you talk with him. He didn't

463
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: take much time getting in with the players. And one

464
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: of the things that you know he put as a

465
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: huge goal, A main goal was getting the ball takeaways

466
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Speaker 1: because this team was horrible the year before he got here.

467
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: I only had nine on the whole season and this

468
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: top ten in the NFL at twenty five. That jump

469
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: in takeaways was huge, and that's something your defenses were

470
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Speaker 1: excellent at as well. Can you talk a little bit

471
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Speaker 1: more about the way he got you guys to get

472
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Speaker 1: those takeaways? Thinking about the football, you know, the ball

473
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Speaker 1: is the game. You know, if you have the football,

474
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Speaker 1: it's a good situation for you. So we practiced it.

475
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Speaker 1: He preached it. You know, if the ball was on

476
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Speaker 1: the ground, we didn't pick it up. We were wrong

477
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: every time you got around the football and practice, whether

478
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Speaker 1: it's unless it's a quarterback, you don't touch your quarterbacks,

479
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: but you're stripping the football, even it's an incomplete pass,

480
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: you're picking the ball up. Did you see our lineman,

481
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: our old lineman did it too. If there's a ball

482
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Speaker 1: on the ground, not just defensive guys, the whole team

483
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: would picked the ball up and running with it. And

484
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Speaker 1: you make the rest make a decision. You know, but

485
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Speaker 1: it may be a fumble, it may not be a fumble,

486
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Speaker 1: but you make them make decision. Now, with all the

487
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: replaying stuff, you know that they hardly ever get it wrong,

488
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: but you're still making them make a decision. So it's

489
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: just it's amazing how the when you practice it, because

490
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: before he got there, we were pretty good takeaways. Our

491
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: old coaches were really good at teaching him as well.

492
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Speaker 1: But when he got there, the fumbles and it's amazing

493
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Speaker 1: how many times we scored on defense when he got there,

494
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: because in practice, when we got the ball, we all

495
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: turned and blocked and formed a wall or you know,

496
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: just tried to try to get in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the first time you met him, in

498
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Speaker 1: your first memory of him. I remember they hired him

499
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, yes, a defensive head coach, and

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Speaker 1: I know he had a good pedigree coming from from

501
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Speaker 1: Saint Louis. I have great memories of him. My first

502
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: year he was there was tough for me. I pulled

503
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Speaker 1: my hamstring the first day of training camp, his first

504
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: so fresh, and I had I only played nine games

505
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Speaker 1: that season, so he probably had his doubts about whether

506
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Speaker 1: I was how durable I was going to be. And

507
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: then next year in his defense, I was Defensive Player

508
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Speaker 1: of the Year and then I got better and better.

509
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Speaker 1: But like I said, we evolved as a defense every year,

510
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Speaker 1: and he evolved because he let us do what we

511
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Speaker 1: were good at. You know, if we had a guy

512
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Speaker 1: like I didn't have to uncover two, which you guys

513
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Speaker 1: probably know, the middle linebacker runs through the middle of

514
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Speaker 1: the field. But we didn't do that. He changed it up.

515
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: He let Lance run down the middle sometimes every once

516
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: in a while we'd read it. He just let us

517
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Speaker 1: do what he thought we were good at. And he

518
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: would always listen to us, which we appreciated. Yeah, you

519
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: bring up a really good point there and use the

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Speaker 1: word evolved, and I don't know that most people associate

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00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: that word with him. He's got the white beard. Now Beard,

522
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit more about the way he was.

523
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: He's a creative guy. He would change things up, and

524
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: we saw him change things up. Second half of this season.

525
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: The Texans played a little bit better defensively under Lovey.

526
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: They did play better. You know, he just he's not

527
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: a dummy. He's a smart, smart football coach. He's been

528
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: around football a long time. He knows he asked to

529
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: evolved to get better. But his base is the cover two.

530
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: And as much as I hate to say it, covered

531
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Speaker 1: two works, you know, we ran it. There are some

532
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: games we ran it. We played Green Bay one year

533
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: and we had forty six snaps forty five or cover

534
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: two and we won the game. So I just think,

535
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: you gotta do what you need to do to win

536
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Speaker 1: the game. And he knows that. But we go into

537
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Speaker 1: a game with literally seven defenses. You know a lot

538
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: of teams have a law call list, playlist or whatever.

539
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: We go in a game with seven play with seven

540
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: play calls, and we would win. We would dominate because

541
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: we could play fast. We weren't out there thinking it's

542
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: not you know, it's not tho. As much stuffs at

543
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: these guys as you can is do what you do

544
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: and do it well, make them adjust to you. And

545
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: we were really good at that, and you let us play.

546
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: We played really really fascinate. One thing he doesn't put

547
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: up with is loafing. If the guys aren't, it doesn't

548
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: matter who you are. If I loafed, I didn't play

549
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: lancelo if he didn't play. If you don't run to

550
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: the football, you are not going to play for Lovey,

551
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: you know. And you talk about he's a defensive coach.

552
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: Of course, that's what we all associate with him, But

553
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: I was so about this with Hester. He's also got

554
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: got a special team's bone in him. He was always around.

555
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: He was almost an assistant special teams coach this year

556
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Speaker 1: with the text and places a big, big emphasis on that.

557
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: How much can you speak to that from your time

558
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: with Lovey, you know, playing there with the Bears, I'll

559
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: say this, my nine years with him, we were always

560
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: top five or top ten, especially its coach Tobe, who's

561
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: now a Casey is a great special teams coach as well.

562
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: But coach Smith had his hands in there too. He

563
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: was you know, it's a big part of game, especially

564
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: when you have a guy like Devin Hester. I think

565
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: you need to find a way to be creative and

566
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: make sure he gets the football as many times beause

567
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: he can on returns. But you know, we blocked kicks,

568
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: we return kicks for touchdowns, and we the main thing

569
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: is we didn't make mistakes on special teams. I think

570
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. The blocking the backs, they're gonna happen,

571
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, those are those are just mind things. But

572
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 1: for the most part, yes, football, they should happen, but

573
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: they do. You know, full speed players and most of

574
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: the time the refs callum when they're not even a penalty. Anyway,

575
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: that's another story for another day. But Yeah, he's just

576
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: he wants I think he wants his hands on the places,

577
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, offensively, I think he lets the coaches do

578
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: what they need to do on offense, but defense and

579
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: special teams. He's gonna have a big hand in that. Yeah,

580
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: that's fun stuff. We'll listen, Brian. We really do appreciate

581
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: the time. Is there one last thing you want to

582
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: let the people of Houston know who follow the Texans?

583
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: Love the Texans know about their new head coach. Congratulations?

584
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 1: You know, just he's a great man. You're gonna you

585
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: have a leader of young man that you want. You know,

586
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: if if my son played for the Texans and the

587
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: love you Smith, I'd be a really happy guy because

588
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: I know he's getting great leadership up in great life

589
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: lessons from from a great man. Oh wait, I got

590
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: one more, last one. Okay, you're one of the biggest

591
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 1: high school players ever come out of New Mexico. Oh,

592
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: thank you. You heard about the team that he was

593
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: on in high school, Lovey Smith. You know, big Sandy,

594
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: Big Sandy Man, Big Sandy Texas. How impressive is that

595
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: they do? So? I don't know what they did. He

596
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: didn't he didn't give us stats what all you ever

597
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: say was he's from Big Sandy, and Big Sandy could

598
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: play some football. Well, his senior year they won the

599
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: state title. They gave up as a defense, I think

600
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: about fifteen to sixteen points on the entire season, and

601
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: they scored seven hundred points. So yeah, they just blasted everybody.

602
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: Every game was an average one point one points a

603
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: game against him pretty much. I think like two teams

604
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: scored on him the entire years. Is that possible? Yeah? Yeah,

605
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: he never told us that. I should next my CMIL

606
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: ask him, But that's a that's pretty impressive. It's a

607
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: good Wikipedia little entry. If you're ruining, I gotta find

608
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: that out. Yeah for sure. Well, Brian, we really do

609
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: appreciate time. Best of luck to you, and we'll talk

610
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: to you again very must soon. Thanks Jeff Semn. I

611
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: love that Brian or Locker was as incredulous as I.

612
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: When you think back to the Big Sandy stats, oh,

613
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: giving up one point per game defensively, they won games

614
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: an average of fifty nine to one. Of course, when

615
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: I asked coach Lovey Smith about it, it was funny

616
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: because you may not watched the video, you may have

617
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: just heard it, but he gets this kind of sly

618
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: smile on his face. He's sitting next to me and

619
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: he kind of looks to me and he's like John

620
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: and then he kind of took the conversation in a

621
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: different direction. But we got off the air, he shared

622
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more, which was kind of fun none

623
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: the less. All right, let's catch up with a future

624
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, and that is Devin Hester. He had

625
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: some great things to say about Lovey as well. Here's

626
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: Devin and Drew. Well, Lovey Smith is the new head

627
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: coach of the Houston Texans, so we want to talk

628
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: with one of his best players ever and one of

629
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Speaker 1: the best players in NFL history. We got Devin Hester

630
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: with us, and Devin, thanks so much for the time.

631
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Speaker 1: First things first, what'd you think when you heard the

632
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: news that Lovey Smith is gonna be head coach again

633
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, it wasn't shocking to me

634
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: because I knew at the end of the day, man,

635
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: the guy that coach Levey is man, it was just

636
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Speaker 1: a matter of time where he's going to get his

637
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Speaker 1: next opportunity to be a head coach, you know today

638
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 1: as today, where he got an opportunity to take over

639
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: a team, you know, and lead it and just room

640
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: for him and hoping for the best. Yeah, you know,

641
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: you scored thirty six touchdowns in your career, a lot

642
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: of them with the Chicago Bears, returning punts, returning kickoffs,

643
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: catching the ball. You're just a great all around player.

644
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: You were drafted technically as a quarterback, so he played

645
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: all three phases of the game. What do you remember

646
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: most about your time in Chicago with Lovey as head coach?

647
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: Man Coach Levey to me, it was probably one of

648
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Speaker 1: my favorite coach I've ever had. And I would say

649
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Speaker 1: the reason why, you know, of course I spent eight

650
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: years with him. He was just a players coach. And

651
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Speaker 1: you know, you have a lot of coaches. I've been

652
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: around a lot of coaches where they're just there was

653
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: head coaches, but Coach Levy was just more of a

654
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Speaker 1: players coach. And what I mean by that was he

655
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: was the type of coach that was willing to hear

656
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 1: what the players had to say and how the players felt,

657
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, whatever was on their mind. It

658
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: was never a time was where I was uncomfortable to

659
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: go to Coach Levey about the problem and let them

660
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: know you know, of course you have like I said,

661
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: you have coaches like that where players are you know,

662
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: hesitant to say certain things to them about whether the

663
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: pride this is, whether you know the bodies hurting or

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Speaker 1: they that they just not mentally and it you know

665
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Speaker 1: what I mean. But coach Levey was one of them

666
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Speaker 1: guys whereas though was always open to every player, and

667
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: every player that I know that played up on a

668
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: love always had that feeling where they can always come

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Speaker 1: to him for anything. You stuck around the NFL a

670
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: long time, so you saw your shriff coaches. What you

671
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: just talked about being a players coach, being able to

672
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: listen to what these guys want. How important is that?

673
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Speaker 1: And how much did that differ from perhaps and I'm

674
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Speaker 1: not asking you to their names, but how much did

675
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: that differ from other coaches you ever encounter in your life.

676
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: It was the player of the right way It makes

677
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: the player. You know, where you have a coach that

678
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: you know that have your bast entrance, whether it's on

679
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: the field or off the field, you know what I mean.

680
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: He was the type of guy where in business decision

681
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: he was always for his players, you know what I mean.

682
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: Whatever the players wanted and how he felt he stuck

683
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: one hundred was saying behind them, and that's the type

684
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: of coach where you can he would ask and they

685
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: player to run through the wall, and that player no

686
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Speaker 1: d down side. I try to run through this wall

687
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Speaker 1: and bush my head wide open, but I'm gonna do

688
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: it because I know that at the end of the day,

689
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Speaker 1: he's telling me the write thing where you know where

690
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: he just has that type of faith. He put that

691
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: type of faith to players. You know, he's served as

692
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator in Houston this year. He's known as

693
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: a defensive guy, but we also saw him when special

694
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: teams was doing their their work and doing their drills.

695
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: He was a part of that as well. He was

696
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: almost like an assistant special team's coach. How important was

697
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: that aspect in your mind as far as who he is,

698
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: because he's clearly a well rounded coach in that regard,

699
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: isn't he right? Most definitely, Coach Love is a guy

700
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: that love all three phase and the end of the

701
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: day and his time in Chicago, he start doing the

702
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: same thing where he really started paying attention to a

703
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: special team. And when you have a head coach that

704
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like a lot a lot

705
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: of coaches don't really care about a special team and

706
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: let special team coaches handed that and they just kind

707
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: of really focus on you the offensive defense. But when

708
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: you have a coach that's three dimensions where he cares

709
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: about every phase of the game, then the special team

710
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: guys feel more important. And that's why our Special team

711
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: union was so good in Chicago because Coach Levey was

712
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: in meetings, you know what I mean. Like when I

713
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: was in other teams, I didn't really see the head

714
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: coaching special team meets, but Coach Levy would go in

715
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: and charm in and sending meet in some times and

716
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Speaker 1: show up and ask questions you know what I mean

717
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: to the speci team coach where everybody in there, you know.

718
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: So that showed all the special team guys that wild coach,

719
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: we are important to this team. And that's just the

720
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: type of coach he is. You know, he's got a

721
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Speaker 1: lot of experience, He's got a lot of years under

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Speaker 1: his belt. What's next for him? Do you think coming

723
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: into a situation like he has right now with the

724
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: Houston Texas coach Lovey would I would say he's he

725
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: has to We all know he's defensive minded. I think

726
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: the defense would pick it up a lot. I think

727
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: he would go out and get key guys. I think

728
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: he would hire a great offensive coordinator that has this parents,

729
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: that would be able to handle the offense. You know

730
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? Where he had, he can't even relax

731
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: and focus more on defense and special team. I think

732
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Speaker 1: that's the type of mindset that coach love is gonna

733
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: go in and I'm gonna go out and get a

734
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: great offensive coordinator. If he's not comfortable with what he has.

735
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: I know he would go out and get a great

736
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator that he'd know that at the end of

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00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: the day, that offense coordinator can handle the offense. But

738
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna focus on special team of defense because at

739
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day, they always say defense win championships.

740
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: And he's gonna put together a great special team unit,

741
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: no doubt. Yeah. Pep Hamilton is gonna be his offensive coordinator.

742
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: Peppers has been an oc all over the place. He

743
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: was the quarterbacks coach this year and did a great job.

744
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: So it looks like he's got that part of the

745
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: equation all settled. What's your memory of Lovey Smith if

746
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: you had to boil it down to one memory. Ever,

747
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: what is it? I would say when I remember his wife, Ashley,

748
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: came up with me, maybe like my second year in

749
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: the league, and she said, I haven't seen coach love

750
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: you smile like that in a while until he came

751
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: He started watching you play football, and he was like

752
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: your team, She said, I never seen my husband smile

753
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: as much as you do when we talk about you.

754
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: That's got to feel good. Huh oh yeah, most definitely. Well,

755
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: you made a lot of people smiling. I'd be remiss

756
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: if I didn't ask you about this week. I mean,

757
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in the Hall of Fame someday. What's

758
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: it like being a part of everything? And what sort

759
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: of memories do you have of this week seeing us

760
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: how you took a kickoff back to start a Super

761
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: Bowl for a touchdown. Man, it's just, you know, just

762
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: just a little kid, you know what I mean, growing

763
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 1: up wanting to be a football player, and then getting

764
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: the opportunity to play the league, and then at the

765
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, being to mention is

766
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: one of the greatest football players to ever play the

767
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: game of football. It's tremendously an honor and when we

768
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: talk about the Hall of Fame, you know, for me,

769
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a chair on top of my

770
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: ice cream man, and hopefully one day I'm making hopefully

771
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: this year, but not if not this year, then hopefully

772
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: next year. You know what I mean. I feel like

773
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: it will be soon. So it's really gonna just really

774
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: put that chair on the top for me. And since

775
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: you played at the U and one of the greatest

776
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: Houston Texans ever, Andre Johnson, played at the U a

777
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: little bit before you. When you think about Dre and

778
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: his chances for making it to the Hall, man, hopefully

779
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: we both we both go in at the same time,

780
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I think it's

781
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a U party. Yep, you're both all of

782
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: famers in my book. So, Devin Hester, we really do

783
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: appreciate the time, enjoy the week, and we hope to

784
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: talk to you again very very soon. Okay, man, you

785
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: guys enjoyed Manny, you guys are doing a smart decision

786
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: by hiring coach Levy. Man, I'll take that as it

787
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: thumbs up. I'm the greatest returner that has ever lived.

788
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: Devin Hester, Devin Hester, you are ridiculous that's my favorite

789
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: Jeff Joni Act call of all time. That was after

790
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: the touchdown in the Super Bowl against the Colts. I

791
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: just wish the Bears would have had enough offense that

792
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: day to beat paid man in the Colts, but alas

793
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: it didn't happen either way. Great stuff there from Devin Hester.

794
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: All right, we get back. I play a little rumor

795
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: palooza quarterback style. Yeah, there been some rumors out there.

796
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: I'll assess them one to ten, one being not so ridiculous,

797
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: ten being the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Quarterback

798
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: rumor pealos in X right here in Texas Bill Access

799
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: Boccess Boccess. We don't want to segment this Monday edition

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Speaker 1: of Texans All Access a President's Day addition, Hell to

801
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: the Chief. And I don't know the rest of the

802
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: words though, you know the song that I am talking about? Okay,

803
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: have song way too long? I sang way too long.

804
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what verbs or past tense verb I

805
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: should have used there, But yeah, that's too much singing

806
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: for me in any one moment. All right, I said

807
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: that we were gonna play quarterback rumor Pollouza rated on

808
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. Let's start with this

809
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: one that I saw out there. I think this one

810
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: was a projected trade. The green Bay Packers sent Aaron

811
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: Rodgers to the Denver Broncos, and in return, the Packers

812
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: get pick number nine in this draft. They get a

813
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: first round or twenty twenty three. They get a second

814
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: and a third round or twenty twenty two for Aaron Rodgers. Now,

815
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: as it pertains to quarterback rumor palouse up that's been

816
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: out there, possibility of that probably a five or six.

817
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: May I go a little bit higher. That trade is interesting,

818
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: but green Bay has there seems their quarterback of the future.

819
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: If you're Denver, I think you'd do that deal all

820
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: day long. Yes, it's two ones, a two out of three,

821
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: and the guy's thirty seven years old. Off my math

822
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: is correct, he has five years in him and you

823
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: get a world championship. Is it worth it for Denver

824
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: to do that? I think it is. Let me if

825
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: you look back at the Payton Manning years. I know

826
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: they didn't give up that much for Payton Manning, obviously

827
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: because Peyton was released by the Colts. But was it

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00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: worth it? Yeah, those four years for the Broncos where

829
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, they got the divisional round, got upset. Twenty thirteen,

830
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: he got to the Super Bowl. Twenty fourteen, he got

831
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: upset by the Colts. Twenty fifteen, they won a championship.

832
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: Those are the four years of Peyton Manning in Denver.

833
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if this team is as talented is that,

834
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: but it's pretty near close. If you drop Aaron Rodgers

835
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Speaker 1: in that mix, I would say that's probably a six

836
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: to seven. As far as the rumor pelluzer goes, I

837
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: don't know about the trade though. Boy, green Bay's bringing

838
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: back a lot, and if they believe in Jordan Love,

839
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: it could be a win win a couple of first

840
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: rounders green Bays nine. My goodness, give an offensive lineman there,

841
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: get an offensive playmaker a Treylon Burkes to put opposite

842
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: about the Adams. Potentially, well, it could get kind of

843
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: interesting for the Packers at that point. Okay, quarterback rumor

844
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: Pulooza number two. We go to Charlotte for this one.

845
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: The rumor is that the Carolina Panthers are interested in

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00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Oh. Now, from a plausibility standpoint, I give

847
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: it a three, maybe a two, because Kirk Cousins is

848
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: due like forty something million this year or that's what

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Speaker 1: his cap hit is. It's an insane number. I can't

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Speaker 1: see the Panthers taking that on unless the Vikings throwing

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in a like a first and some other

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Speaker 1: picks to take the money aspect off their hands. But

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Speaker 1: I can promise you Kirk Cousins going to Carolina is

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Speaker 1: gonna make the Panthers better. Is it gonna put them

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Speaker 1: over the top. No, And another big swing and a miss,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, is not going to be good from

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Speaker 1: Matt rule in Carolina. With David Tepper there, he wants

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Speaker 1: to see success. I don't think Kirk Cousins guarantees you success,

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Speaker 1: and I don't give you the Panthers. You give up

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Speaker 1: more for the guarantee of success. And there could be

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Speaker 1: a quarterback that played his college ball very close to

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers home in Charlotte that maybe maybe would

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Speaker 1: accept the trade there. I don't know plausibility if that

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Speaker 1: would be much higher Kirk Cousins to the Panthers. I'm

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Speaker 1: going like a two or three, because nothing is ever

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Speaker 1: a zero. Nothing's ever a zero. But I would give

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Speaker 1: that about a two or a three, Aaron Rodgers going

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Speaker 1: to Denver a little bit higher, Kirk Cousins going to

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. That was the rumor. No, no, thank you sir,

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Speaker 1: So there you go. Got a big thanks to Mark

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Speaker 1: for stopping by, to Brian Er Locker and Devin Hester.

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Speaker 1: Of course our manager Doherty. To all of you for listening.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. With see tomorrow and as always,

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Speaker 1: go Texans