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Speaker 1: The Fread Show is on. It's stay or go.

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Speaker 2: All right, stay or go everyone, Let's welcome Will. Hello, Will,

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Speaker 2: how you doing? Hey?

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Speaker 1: Good morning?

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Speaker 3: How's it gone?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. Will. All right, so let's hear

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Speaker 1: what's going on.

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Speaker 2: This is our little group therapy open forum. Here.

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Speaker 1: You can tell us what's going on.

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Speaker 2: You can use our audience to enable you to dissuade

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Speaker 2: you whatever it is that you want to dissuade you, whatever,

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Speaker 2: assuage and dissuade. I think it's what I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what word I'm saying anymore, never

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Speaker 2: even heard. Well maybe because I made them up. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure. Will, what's going on? Explain your story, your situation.

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Speaker 4: So my story is a little different than you know.

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Speaker 4: I've heard of this before, but still you're right, I

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Speaker 4: definitely need some help. So I've been married for about

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Speaker 4: ten years and we have a four year old daughter,

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Speaker 4: and my wife is raising our daughter.

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Speaker 5: To be a vegetarian, all right, which doesn't seem like

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Speaker 5: it's that big of a deal. However, I'm worried that.

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Speaker 4: If she's not eating meat, if anything, it's going to

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Speaker 4: affect her nutrition and you know, her grove and everything else.

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Speaker 4: And I'm worried that it's going to affect the health

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Speaker 2: So it's well, I'm by no means an attritionists, but like,

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Speaker 2: you can find protein and other sources if that's what

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Speaker 2: you're worried about. I mean, you can supplement, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think you can. You can create a And again

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Speaker 2: this is not my air of expertise. Surprisingly when you

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Speaker 2: look at me, you might think it is, but it's not.

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Speaker 2: I think you can find ways to supplement, you know,

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Speaker 2: and and create a complete diet that's healthy without meat.

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Speaker 2: I think it's more and more possible now. So is

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Speaker 2: that what you're worried about, That she's not getting all

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Speaker 2: the nutrients and protein all that stuff.

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Speaker 5: That's a part of it.

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Speaker 4: She's also teaching you know, our daughter, like you know,

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Speaker 4: we're teaching her about animals and everything else, and associating

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Speaker 4: you know, the cows and chicken or you know, and

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Speaker 4: chicken and pigs and everything with meat too, to give her,

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Speaker 4: you know, a bad taste of meat and associating it

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Speaker 4: health as well, Like you know, we didn't learn about

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Speaker 5: Worried that, like she's mentally not gonna be okay with

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Speaker 5: all this as well.

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I suppose.

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Speaker 2: I suppose it's one thing to feed her certain things

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Speaker 2: because you're concerned about health. I think it's probably another.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I definitely knew where meat

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Speaker 1: And when I was a kid, and that teacher you had, right.

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Speaker 2: And I had a teacher who was like he had

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Speaker 2: an agenda for sure, or it was was a vegetarian

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Speaker 2: was doing it to educate us about animals. But I

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Speaker 2: mean it was like I went to the butcher and

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Speaker 1: And for a while I did, But I mean, I

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the two things have to be interconnected, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like if it's a health a

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Speaker 2: like some sort of programming that meat is bad and

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Speaker 2: you know that little piggy that you love is you're

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Speaker 1: Uh rufio.

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Speaker 6: As a parent, like, have you had any conversations with

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Speaker 6: it's two of you parenting this child. She can't have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had conversations about it, but honestly, neither of

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Speaker 4: And this is the way that you know then and

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Speaker 4: Given our daughter, you know, just some you know, chicken

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Speaker 1: Side, I haven't told my wife. Is your wife vegetarian?

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Speaker 1: Is she vegetarian?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I don't I feel like, yeah, at

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Speaker 2: you think, like, at some point when she's old enough

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Speaker 2: I want to eat a turkey sandwich or I like

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Speaker 2: there is no choice here, like this is how you're

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I I'm a little bit more

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Speaker 5: Now, I don't see her budgeting at all, which like

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Speaker 6: I understand your concern, but I also don't like what

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Speaker 6: you're doing with the sneaking meat to your child thing,

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Speaker 6: because that child going to rat you out sooner or later,

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Speaker 6: Like it's it's it's gonna happen like it's gonna it's

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Speaker 6: I understand, there's a situation you're trying to do with

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Speaker 6: you want your child to eat meat, your wife doesn't,

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Speaker 6: But sneaking food to your child like that to give

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Speaker 6: him the taste of what chicken is and to keep

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Speaker 6: whatever proteins you want, that's not a good one.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that he doesn't get a say in

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Speaker 2: I think that ultimately is up to her. Thank you will,

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Speaker 2: let me take some phone calls eight five, five, five,

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Speaker 2: nine one, one oh three five. We'll see what people

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Speaker 2: have to say. IVY Radio one, have a good day.

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Speaker 2: I feel like my parents would tell you if they

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Speaker 2: They didn't force us to go much further with religion

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Speaker 2: if we didn't feel it. They didn't force us to

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Speaker 2: eat certain food. They didn't force us to believe or

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Speaker 2: I didn't like it, and he never made me go again.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't. It wasn't for me.

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Speaker 2: But again it was on that list of things that

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Speaker 2: I think for her to first of all, for him

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Speaker 2: not to have a vote, and then for her to

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Speaker 2: that would you know, prevent her from ever eating it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like that. It seems like manipulation.

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Speaker 2: Alex Hi, good morning, Hi, good morning.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what'd you want to say? You just heard the scenario?

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Speaker 1: What do you think I did?

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Speaker 8: And I think that you should talk to your wife again.

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Speaker 8: But also I think since you said that you both

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Speaker 8: aren't budging on this opinion, a really good mediator would

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Speaker 8: be consulting their pediatrician or getting like a second outside

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Speaker 8: opinion on this. Because I personally think that vegetarianism is

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Speaker 8: it's a choice, you know how, you believe when it

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Speaker 8: lot of times vegetarianism is used for health purposes if you.

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Speaker 9: Have like an underlying disease or something like that. Personally,

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Speaker 9: I think children need that nutrition.

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Speaker 8: As they are developing.

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Speaker 8: Crucial to their health. You can also substitute beings and

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Speaker 9: But ultimately I believe it is just a choice for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and somehow that again not to repeat myself here,

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Speaker 2: but the father for some reason has no vote in this.

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Speaker 2: That's what really concerns about. I don't know about the

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Speaker 2: other part, about how to introduce things to your kids

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Speaker 2: or how to share your values.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a kid, you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you do that without being overbearing,

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Speaker 2: about vegetarianism at that point in their life such that

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Speaker 2: you got to introduce them to everything within reason, of

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Speaker 2: watch you and watch by example and then make decisions

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Speaker 2: for themselves. But the fact that he has no vote

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Speaker 2: in this, I don't I don't understand why. But thank

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Speaker 2: you Alex.

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Speaker 1: Have a good day, of course you yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: cause it's like I can't let my kids choose anything.

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Speaker 1: Is my kid?

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Speaker 2: If I had a kid, my kids's gonna choose kit kats.

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Speaker 2: You know, my kids, You're gonna choose oreos.

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Speaker 1: Because they're eating something.

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Speaker 2: Rebecca, Hi, Rebecca, good morning.

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Speaker 10: Hey, good morning to you guys. I love your shelf,

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Speaker 10: thank you.

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Speaker 1: Love you to stare Go.

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Speaker 2: This guy his wife, I guess is sort of mandating

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Speaker 2: that they're toddler eat a vegetarian diet, and for some

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Speaker 2: reason he has no choice in this, and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: What do you think.

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Speaker 10: I think that they need to sit down and have

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Speaker 10: I have two kids, and early on we explain to

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Speaker 3: My husband is not.

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Speaker 10: I'm fine cooking meats, but I primarily cook you know,

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Speaker 10: old now she eats both things. They both know I'm

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Speaker 10: a vegetarian. They both know that their dad eats meat,

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Speaker 10: year old, who is now five, she understood that I

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not a vegetarian, but I can tell you

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Speaker 2: Rebecca like, from my perspective, vegetarian food and the offerings

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Speaker 2: are so different now than they were when I was like,

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Speaker 2: vegetarian food was, for lack of a better word, it

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Speaker 2: don't know. Now there's so many more options, and we know,

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Speaker 2: we seem to know so much more about that kind

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Speaker 2: of diet. I feel like it would be good to

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Speaker 2: introduce your kid to all of it, right, and then

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Speaker 2: they can gravitate towards what they like as they get older.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 10: I think you just need to give those kids choices.

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Speaker 10: I mean, they're going to get choices when they get

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Speaker 10: out in the world about other things. Why not give

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Rebecca. Have a great day. Yeaham, and

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Speaker 2: thank you for listening. Appreciate you. Hey, Bianca, Hellolcome morning, guys.

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Speaker 9: I love you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Hey, love you too, Thank you, thanks for listening, Thanks

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Speaker 7: Well, my husband is vegan began and we don't even

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Speaker 7: I'm fine with Monday to Friday and if the bus

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Speaker 7: they're vegetarian vegan, but if we go to a baseball game,

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Speaker 7: like I want them to experience a hot dog, or

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Speaker 7: I want them to enjoy a thing, saying dinner. And

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Speaker 7: he was adamant that they should. And then I said, well,

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Speaker 7: we should let them feed them how we want, and

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Speaker 7: then once they're old enough to decide, then it's all

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Speaker 7: about your family. That's a big thing to your family.

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Speaker 7: What if they want to feed them burgers and hot

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Speaker 7: sick if they if they give them that, they're going

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Speaker 7: to get sick them when they're with us, go eat

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Speaker 7: how we want them to eat, so they're old enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like that's the sort of the the ultimate, uh,

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Speaker 2: the place for these people to reach is some moderation,

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Speaker 2: some compromise here, a little bit of choice. But I

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Speaker 2: don't know, for whatever reason, maybe this I think.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it should be a compromised like she should be

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Speaker 7: more than willing to compromise with him. It's like she's

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Speaker 7: and that's not.

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Speaker 4: What marriage is.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have any cohones. This guy getting back. Tell

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Speaker 1: him to grow some cohones. Thank you, Beyonca, have a

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Speaker 1: good day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean we're not talking about like crack cocaine.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're not talking about I don't know. There's

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Speaker 2: so many things you could you can I think my

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Speaker 2: kid should try cigarettes, like no, I mean no, no,

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Speaker 2: your kids should not try cigarettes, like, absolutely not. We're

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Speaker 2: talking about the healthy choice is Hey, Sheila, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: I see like, good morning.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to say?

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Speaker 3: Good morning. I'm one of the Lucky thirteen. I love

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Speaker 3: you guys.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we' are the lucky ones.

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Speaker 3: I definitely think he should stay if he doesn't say

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Speaker 3: his wife is going to ruin the little girl like

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Speaker 3: he definitely has to say. But I'm more concerned about

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Speaker 3: the dynamic between them as a couple. I don't understand

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Speaker 3: the foundation of the way to raise your child is

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Speaker 3: to give them options and allow their personality, their characters

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Speaker 3: to shine through. That's the whole point of showing them

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Speaker 3: different ways of living. What will make her think that

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Speaker 3: vegetarian is the only option, Like, I don't import my

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Speaker 3: husband's port and we have four children. They completely understand it.

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Speaker 3: I don't and he does, and they have the choices

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Speaker 3: and make their choices. I mean, I don't encourage them

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Speaker 3: one way or another, but it's completely their choice. She

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Speaker 3: makes an extent as if her way is more healthy

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Speaker 3: and therefore it's more important and that's the priority, that's

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Speaker 3: more concerning than the diet itself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you. To have a good day. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: another problem solved, Another life is she solved? Now they

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Speaker 2: going to listen to each word, listen to it together

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they do each every family does each week

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Speaker 2: after stay ago, do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think so too. Should this should count as a

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Speaker 2: public service? Honestly, this will show, This will show should

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Speaker 2: count as a public service as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah,