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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with her radio. Hey, everybody, I am back. I am

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Speaker 1: excited to be back. Ready to be back. I've missed

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Speaker 1: you all. I've missed Ashley a lot, but on a reunion,

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Speaker 1: which is this moment. She's late to the podcast, so

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for her, UH in my car. But we

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Speaker 1: have a really special guest and so I can't get

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Speaker 1: in the studio yet, but I have to. I had

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Speaker 1: to call in because we have Eric Bigger Uh in

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Speaker 1: studio with us right now. Eric, welcome to the Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous Podcast. Yes, yes, yes, I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling. I'm feeling good. There we go,

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Speaker 1: There we go. I love it. We not feeling as

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Speaker 1: good as you are after night last night. UH, tell

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Speaker 1: us about how you're doing. Man, I'm phenomenal. Man, I've

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Speaker 1: been doing interviews all day, but I feel great. The

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Speaker 1: closure last night was phenomenal and I'm happy. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you right. I watched last night,

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Speaker 1: and I always respect somebody who can leave UH an

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Speaker 1: experience like this or a situation like this with their

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Speaker 1: health health high, complimenting and reassuring UH, someone or something

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Speaker 1: that may have hurt them, and I love the way

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Speaker 1: you treated Rachel last night. It shows your character and

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Speaker 1: who you are as a person. So so thank you

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Speaker 1: from all the fans out there. Man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Um, So we gotta get in through it. Eric,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you some big questions. I was

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Speaker 1: a fan of yours off season. I think you carried

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Speaker 1: yourself well, like I said, But but here's the big question.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna put you in the hot seat

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Speaker 1: for a second. Pick the right man. Ah Man, that's

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Speaker 1: a great question, Ben opening it up. Um. Honestly, from

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Speaker 1: watching the show last night for the first time, I

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Speaker 1: don't think she picked the right man in that moment.

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Speaker 1: But prior, yeah, prior to seeing the show, I always

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Speaker 1: thought Brian was the guy for her once I left.

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Speaker 1: So but and Brian, you know, great relationship, he's my guy.

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Speaker 1: I love him, He's cool. But I felt bad for him,

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Speaker 1: you know, It's it seemed like he was a rebound.

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Speaker 1: You know. I could be wrong, but that's what they

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Speaker 1: look like in my eyes. And maybe the feelings they

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Speaker 1: have for each other is different from what I see.

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Speaker 1: But oh man, it was it was tough. I was like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll be honest. I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: I kind of felt the same way, and then I'll

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Speaker 1: go into it here in just a second on the

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Speaker 1: podcast on my feelings for the situation. But You're not

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Speaker 1: alone in that. I actually feel like a lot of

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation kind of felt the same way. From the

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Speaker 1: reactions and the emails that we got on Almost Famous podcast,

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Speaker 1: I think people were a little bit confused and a

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Speaker 1: little bit at the end of it felt kind of

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Speaker 1: like Rachel was saying, there was a lot of unanswered questions,

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Speaker 1: especially when it came to Peter. Yes, absolutely, that was emotional.

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Speaker 1: So let's focus on you for a second, because honestly, uh,

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Speaker 1: you had an incredible uh a season, um one that

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Speaker 1: I and I think I want to ask you about

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Speaker 1: A fr March thirteen, when I first came on live audience,

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Speaker 1: when I met Rachel, I told Rachel, I said, it's

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Speaker 1: a miracle season was meant to be will be. In

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Speaker 1: that moment, I didn't know exactly what I was saying,

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Speaker 1: but once my journey began, UM, I got my miracle.

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Speaker 1: The miracle was falling love. But in between me fall

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Speaker 1: So in between that and I always correlated to you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: anything you get in life which is a miracle, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't come easy. But if you're willing to work through that,

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Speaker 1: your your whole season was a roller coaster. You fought, uh,

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Speaker 1: you heartbroken? Like? How are you doing today? Man? I'm great.

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Speaker 1: My heart is full. I think probably to going into

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Speaker 1: the show, my heart was broken, meaning that I didn't

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Speaker 1: I wasn't complete as a person. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: and want to do. So I'm complete. She completed me,

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Speaker 1: my purpose in that moment on the show. It didn't

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Speaker 1: I didn't end up with the girl, but I love,

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Speaker 1: which I was missing, So it was great. Did you

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Speaker 1: think last night she came across a little bit harsh

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Speaker 1: to Peter, Absolutely, very harsh to Peter last night. Very

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Speaker 1: I was shocked. I was like, whoa she took it

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Speaker 1: it was I think it was pride. Her pride wouldn't

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Speaker 1: a dead body if it said Neil Lane right. And

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Speaker 1: marriage is just the icing on the cake. I said,

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Speaker 1: That's a relationship. Forget the marriage. What is marriage? That's

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Speaker 1: just a word that you give the connotation of, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I'm married. It's like, but I believe love

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Speaker 1: That's my perspective. But you know, I Eric, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you then, because you know better than any of us.

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Speaker 1: So there was some hostility from Rachel towards Peter last night.

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Speaker 1: Is there some story we haven't seen? Where is that

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Speaker 1: So what happened was it was a control war. I

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Speaker 1: ready to say to be the bad plor you know, yes,

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Speaker 1: I I want to be. I want to be. I

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Speaker 1: the planner. I like to set things up. I didn't

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Speaker 1: if you're ready to fall in love again, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just part of who I am, you know, growing up

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of backlash and negativity, you know, growing

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Speaker 1: negative in anything, because at the end of the light,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what do we all want?

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Speaker 1: We want love, we want acceptance, we want happiness. You

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Speaker 1: want to feel good, you want to feel safe. So

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Speaker 1: I try to find a good in the bay and

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Speaker 1: vice versa, you know, because everything has a purpose. Store

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Speaker 1: that's awesome, that that's great here because I mean even

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Speaker 1: It is and I think your positivitivity and the way you,

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Speaker 1: So thank you for that. And and you know, before

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Speaker 1: have a question for Eric. So Eric and I had

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Speaker 1: long term relationship. And I think, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: I think for me, probably before I didn't understand love.

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Speaker 1: Mircle season and Women over Everything. Don't forget that. I

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Speaker 1: the miracle season. Appreciate a buddy. We hope to see

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Speaker 1: you on another Bachelor franchise, says some other time, so

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Speaker 1: I gotta meet you brother when you get here. Let's

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Speaker 1: meet up. Let's talk. Hey, back to luck stay. I

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Speaker 1: would love to meet up with you man. Good luck

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Speaker 1: the rest of the day. And now you're talking to

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Speaker 1: wild ride that has yet to end for you. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: podcast fans, we are live right now, just to remind you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we're talking live about this week's finale episode of

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Speaker 1: The Bachelorette. Ashley, you were texting me throughout the whole episode.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts and feelings that are kind of

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Speaker 1: all encompassing and then I'll ask some detailed questions here

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00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: about last night's episode. All Right, So I just came

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00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: back from Access Hollywood and I spent honestly four hours

512
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: analyzing this episode. And I felt a little bit bad

513
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: because I kind of was like crapping on Rachel's decision.

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Speaker 1: And it's just because as an audience, we really connected

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00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: with Peter last night, even though the past couple of

516
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: weeks we've been like, oh, it's Brian. The connection between

517
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Speaker 1: Brian and her is the strongest. Somehow, they pulled us

518
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Speaker 1: in to really root for Rachel and Peter last night

519
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Speaker 1: and then left us just not feeling this proposal is

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Speaker 1: the first time, and I think maybe ever that I

521
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Speaker 1: really didn't. I hate saying that I got I've gotten

522
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Speaker 1: crap before for saying that I didn't feel a proposal,

523
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Speaker 1: But I think it's just because of how the scene

524
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: before one. You know, how do you cry over a

525
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: man and beg him and plead him to get down

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Speaker 1: on his knees and propose, and then twenty four hours

527
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: you're delighted when another man asked you to marry him.

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00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. And actually, you can't help

529
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: your feelings. If you're feeling that way, that's fine, that's fair,

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of batchel Nation was kind

531
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Speaker 1: of feeling that way. It doesn't take away from from

532
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: the engagement that Rachel and Brian or the love that

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Speaker 1: they have. We don't know that we we can't be

534
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: critical of that. It just didn't feel as um, we

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00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: just didn't feel the emotion of it like we we

536
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: do in previous seasons. So that leads me this question,

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Speaker 1: did Rachel pick the wrong guy? I don't know. I

538
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: am not only speaking from my own like personal type.

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Speaker 1: You know, of course I can go in this and

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Speaker 1: having not met Brian, or Peter at this point, I'd

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Speaker 1: be like, I would have picked Peter. She made a mistake,

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Speaker 1: But no, she like made a mistake in my own

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Speaker 1: point of view. But obviously there was something with Brian

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Speaker 1: that she's felt the entire time. And you know the

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Speaker 1: information from the interview I just got, she said that

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Speaker 1: she felt that it was Brian since Geneva and she

547
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Speaker 1: just this Peter thing. I don't know if that is

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Speaker 1: really the case, then why would she continue to harp

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Speaker 1: on the fact that Peter wouldn't propose it. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: makes sense. And as we just talked to Eric, you know,

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Speaker 1: you had mentioned that in this interview today, Rachel says

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Speaker 1: that she was feeling things or she was certain about

553
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Speaker 1: Brian and Geneva. Eric was saying he kind of felt

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Speaker 1: the same way, right, He kind of saw that Brian

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Speaker 1: and Rachel maybe had something bigger and better than the

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Speaker 1: rest um. But it still doesn't take away from the fact,

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Speaker 1: like you said that that last night you felt like

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Speaker 1: Rachel was still very much into Peter, and Peter showed

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Speaker 1: emotion like he thought there was something for the future there.

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Speaker 1: He just it ready to propose, which brings up the

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Speaker 1: question of the night Is that an okay mindset to

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Speaker 1: go into is saying, Rachel, I love you, I want

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Speaker 1: to be with you. I know we have something. I'm

564
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: just not ready yet. Let's take our time off the

565
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: show to get to know each other better. Or is

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Speaker 1: is the Bachelor and bachelort better and better and best

567
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Speaker 1: when engagement happens every time at the end. I think

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Speaker 1: you've been kind of refreshing to have not have seen

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Speaker 1: an engagement at the end. It's seems so protocol at

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Speaker 1: this point, but is it really what people should be

571
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Speaker 1: doing after two months? I mean, you did it? Did

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Speaker 1: you feel comfortable in doing that? I mean I was

573
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Speaker 1: thinking about this last night. I was watching the show,

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Speaker 1: and after the show, I I was sitting in my

575
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Speaker 1: couch and I thought, I took myself back to that moment,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad I did it. The feelings I had

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Speaker 1: at that time, the love that I had at that time,

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Speaker 1: uh warranted an engagement. So I can't for from my experience,

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Speaker 1: I'd say I'm happy ID in that moment. But my

580
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: advice to Nick when he went on The Bachelor was Nick,

581
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: don't go into this thinking you have to get engage

582
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Speaker 1: at the end, because I from talking to people and

583
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Speaker 1: knowing how the process works. It feels almost like you

584
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: have to, but don't feel like you have to. Just

585
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: walking off the show with a partner maybe the best thing.

586
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Speaker 1: Remember when one Pablo did this and he got so

587
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Speaker 1: much backlash, I mean, Ashley didn't want Pablo real backlash

588
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Speaker 1: because he didn't propose. Was that? I mean, I don't

589
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Speaker 1: think that. I don't think that's the truth of it.

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Speaker 1: I think I look back on one publicism, I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: that guy got a lot of backlash for a lot

592
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Speaker 1: of decisions he made, not just not engage proposing to somebody. Yeah,

593
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Speaker 1: he didn't even say I love you After all of that, then,

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Speaker 1: can I ask you a really tough question? Um, of course,

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Speaker 1: I'm warning you ahead of time. Yeah, Okay, So we're

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Speaker 1: talking about Brian and Peter and and could Rachel's feelings

597
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: for Peter ruined her relationship with Brian? And this is

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Speaker 1: harsh forgive me. Do you think the fact that you

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00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: said I love you to Jojo caused problems that went

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Speaker 1: throughout your relationship with Lauren? That is a tough question. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I do. Um, I don't think it's easy and and

602
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: and I've said it before, and I'll say it again,

603
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Speaker 1: Lauren Hander handled herself extremely well given the circumstances. And

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Speaker 1: the circumstances was it I I expressed feelings for somebody

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Speaker 1: else a few days before proposing UM to a woman

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Speaker 1: that I was asking to spend the rest of my

607
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Speaker 1: life with. UM. So I do think looking back, and

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Speaker 1: it's kind of hard for me to even answer, but yes,

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Speaker 1: I think it did have issues. The only way to

610
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Speaker 1: really handle it is communicate openly, and that's why I

611
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Speaker 1: tried to do with Lauren Woll say hey, this happened,

612
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Speaker 1: this is how I was feeling. But my love for

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Speaker 1: you is so much greater than I ever had for

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Speaker 1: the other person. UM. And I guess maybe to the

615
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Speaker 1: to the person you're proposing to, maybe that just doesn't

616
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Speaker 1: make sense right, And I can see where it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It's confusing, it's hard. So I don't know how Brian's

618
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Speaker 1: handling it today. I mean, she told four women last night,

619
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Speaker 1: or four men last night that she loved them UM

620
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Speaker 1: or I guess four men over the last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine Brian's probably a little confused right now.

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Speaker 1: And I hope they're they're talking openly about it okay. Well,

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Speaker 1: it seems as if Rachel's changing her tune a little

624
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Speaker 1: bit today. She did say I love you to basically

625
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Speaker 1: her top four guys, but she's saying that it was

626
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Speaker 1: a different kind of I love you. It wasn't I'm

627
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Speaker 1: in love with you. And Ben, I mean, did you

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Speaker 1: did you mean it in the same way to Jojo

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Speaker 1: as you did with Lauren. Um My first response and

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Speaker 1: I and I've said it before, I'll sit again. I

631
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: think Rachel has done a great job this season. Is

632
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Speaker 1: you have to own up to what you say. And um,

633
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, playing those those games like I meant it

634
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Speaker 1: this way, but I said it this way. It just

635
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. And you've yes, you've put yourself

636
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: out there. But she said what she said, and you

637
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Speaker 1: have to own up to that, just and and and

638
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: so in my situation, you know how I explained it

639
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: was I loved both people, but when I looked at Lauren,

640
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: it was a love like I don't know how I'm

641
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: gonna live my life without you. With Jojo, it was

642
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: an appreciation. It was still love. I mean, I still

643
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: to this day, I hope the best for Jojo and Lauren.

644
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: Um that those those feelings have just Hey, I want

645
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: the best for you, I want to protect you. I

646
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: don't want life to bring you harm. Those feelings don't

647
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: fade and and that's what I meant, you know, just

648
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: kind of like Eric was saying earlier, he really loved

649
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: Rachel and he he wants the best for and he

650
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: doesn't know if those feelings we ever go away. And

651
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: that's okay, but you I hope she owns up to it,

652
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: and she just says, yes, I said it. But at

653
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Brian was a guy from

654
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: me and we'll leave it at that, okay. So that

655
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: actually brings me something. You say, I don't know how

656
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: to live my life without you. That's how you felt

657
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: about Lauren, and we hope that that's how Rachel feels

658
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: about Brian. But it also seems like Rachel really really

659
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: doesn't want Peter to be the next Bachelor. She said

660
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: had um many times throughout the after the Final Rose

661
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: last night, that she doesn't think he's fit for this process.

662
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: And sure, maybe a guy who isn't ready to propose

663
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: after two months, maybe this is not the path of

664
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: love for him. But I also have to say that

665
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: I think this is coming from a place of jealousy,

666
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: and I think that she may have She really should

667
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: have probably thought this through when she was breaking up

668
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: with Peter. Should she have thought, you know what, this

669
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: guy is probably going to be the next Bachelor if

670
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't pick him. So I have to be sure

671
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: that I am so set on Brian being the love

672
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: of my life that it's okay, and I want Peter

673
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: to go on and be happy. Yeah, you're actually, you're right.

674
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm kind of asking you a

675
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: question to kind of not asking questions. I feel like

676
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: she's going to be very bitter and jealous watching Peter

677
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: become the next Bachelor if he is. But I am,

678
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: but like I I'm My question to you, Ben is,

679
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: if you are truly truly in love with your person,

680
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: do you really even care? I mean, that would be

681
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: my response if that's truly how she feels. If there

682
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: is a level of jealousy there, none of us know that,

683
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: But if there is, she's gonna have to get over it,

684
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: um and get over it quickly because there's a good

685
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: chance that Peter will be the Bachelor. If it's not Peter,

686
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: then it's gonna be another guy, you know that she

687
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: probably has feelings for as well. For me, it was

688
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: easy like that was I guess that was a confusing

689
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: season in my life because when Jojo became the Bachelor

690
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: I was excited for but and this doesn't take anyway

691
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: from Jojo, I just didn't care, you know, like it

692
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: was Yeah, good for her. I hope she finds somebody.

693
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm happy. Uh, life's moving forward, Life's good, and whatever

694
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: happens to her, I hope it's it's it's a good thing.

695
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: So that was my feelings. I think when you you

696
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: bring up a good point, actually one that I want

697
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: to throw out there to the listeners. Why why is

698
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: she um oh angry or towards Peter? Is there's something

699
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: not something still there? Because that's a that's a terrible

700
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: um assumption. But why why can't she just look at

701
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: Peter and say, hey, yeah we didn't work out. I

702
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: don't love the way you treated me, but go off

703
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: be the bachelor, have a blast. I'm happy, I'm moving

704
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: on with Brian. It just didn't seem it didn't feel

705
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: like that last night. Did it feel like that to you? No? No, no,

706
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: not at all, which is why I was really curious

707
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: to see how you felt when Jojo was announced as

708
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: the bachelor at and You You just ends with that

709
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: I was sitting next to it. You know, you remember

710
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: that she was announced the bachelor with me sitting next

711
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: to her. Um and or I think it was right

712
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: or at least you were in the audience or oh no,

713
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: you were in the audience of after her final rets. Well,

714
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: however it was I was. I was very close to

715
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: the situation when she was announced as the bachelor at

716
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: and You know what, maybe it was just like I

717
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: just made think Joe is really cool, really great, Like

718
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: I thought she was going to do a good job.

719
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: I was happy to hear she was getting announced, like

720
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of anybody better. Even if you didn't

721
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: think she was suited for the role of bachelor, you

722
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: still would have been some portive of it in public, correct, Yeah,

723
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean I would hope that even if if I

724
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: wasn't supportive of it in private, I wouldn't support it

725
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: in public. But yeah, I mean, if I wasn't supportive

726
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: of it, I just want to probably said anything, because

727
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: you don't want to lie to everybody you don't want,

728
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: but you also don't want to be the Debbie downer

729
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: to to the to the franchise. So um, I was

730
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: supportive of Jojo I. I guess that's where maybe Rachel

731
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: and I can't relate is I was supportive of of

732
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: the next Bachelor, and she doesn't seem like she's a

733
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: supportive of the bachelor that if if it was Peter.

734
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: But there is somebody that she seems to be very

735
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: supportive of, which is shocking me today because and I'll

736
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: tell him this what we have him on the line.

737
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't know him when she said his name.

738
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: And so Rachel today has been saying that Alex, it's

739
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: who she hopes is a bachelor. So we have Alex

740
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: on the line and we're gonna talk to him in

741
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: a minute. But before we do that, actually has something

742
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: to talk to you about. Yeah, we want to talk

743
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: a wedding playing because Brian and Rachel will hopefully be

744
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: planning a wedding soon. So I'm going to suggest that

745
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: they head over to zola dot com. Zola is a

746
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: wedding registry that will do anything for love, much like US.

747
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: Couples can register for brands that they see on an

748
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: easy to use platform with the ability to personalize everything

749
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: from notes to photos. It's a registry that is completely personalized,

750
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: so it's not like it's not boring, it's creative. You

751
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: can get them dishes if you want, but you can

752
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: also get them wine tasting and sonoma. So it's anything

753
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: that you think is perfect for this particular couple. Um,

754
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: it's available everywhere. Couples can have gifts that are shipped now,

755
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: shipp later, they can exchange them. Um. Zola offers matching

756
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: prices to make gift giving easier for the guests of

757
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: the wedding because I always have difficulty coming up with

758
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: wedding gifts. What about you, Ben, I'm don't get invited

759
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: to weddings. I'm pretty sure you do, maybe not bachelor weddings,

760
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: So you grab one bachelor wedding. But it's hard. It's like,

761
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: especially couples in their thirties, You're like, what do you

762
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: get them? They seem to have everything. So it's just

763
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: nice that you have this creative registry. And couples will

764
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: receive ten percent off the entire site for a year

765
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: to complete their registry, but they're going to have to

766
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: go to zola dot com slash almost Famous for all

767
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: the details. Again, Zola is a wedding registry that will

768
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: do anything for love. We're talking gifts, experiences, funds, all

769
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: you want in one place, and don't forget fifty dollars

770
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: off off you go to zola dot com slash almost famous. Wow,

771
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: you really like Zola. You carried that whole promo by yourself.

772
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: Nice job. Actually, Um yeah, I mean that's it. Thank

773
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: you to Zola, Casper and the rest of our sponsors

774
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: that we'll talk about in the show, because you keep

775
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: this podcast moving and grooving. Um, that's how we sit

776
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: here today. So we appreciate you and who we also appreciate.

777
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: Eight is the man that Rachel says should be the

778
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: next Bachelor. Alex, are you out there? I'm here, Hey, Alex.

779
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: Was this big surprising news to you? To hear today

780
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: that Rachel wants you was the next bachelor seems a

781
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: bit random to us. I'm pretty sure I was like

782
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: gonna say that, like, you know, just politically correct answer

783
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: put out there. It's politically correct. Why is that because

784
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: you're from Russia doesn't cause any any drama with anyone,

785
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it was it was flattering, you know,

786
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: I do appreciate it, but I think she knows I

787
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it even if offered the opportunity to do it.

788
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: We hear that Rachel is quite possessive of her top

789
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: four guys. Seems like she doesn't want any of those

790
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: four to be the bachelor. Um. Do you also think

791
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to step on the toes of any

792
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: girls that may have gotten involved with Dean in Paradise? Um?

793
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: I think she's mentioned before actually that she what didn't

794
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: want anyone from her season really being a bachelor. And Uh,

795
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't know it's because she's possessive or uh maybe

796
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: I think it's honestly, like coming off the show, I

797
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: think it takes a little bit of time to like

798
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: adjust to uh, you know, like the new life or

799
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: someone like Dean or Peters who's got tons of exposure

800
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, their lives are completely different to

801
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: so like jump to jump in right into the next Bachelor,

802
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: I think that would be kind of difficult. I mean, Alex,

803
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: I just I just think I heard you correctly, but

804
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: please reiterate this. You just said if you're asked to

805
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: be the Bachelor, you wouldn't do it. Why is that

806
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: I was already hasn't been bought, like the exposure like

807
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: the show puts onto your dating life, you know, which

808
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: is something to me baby say private or internet, you know.

809
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: And uh so I was actually one of people are

810
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: really happy was not getting over exposed out there and uh,

811
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, because not getting go on a normal date

812
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: and you know, I can tell the girl like what

813
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: my back story is, and you know, she doesn't know

814
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: where I'm from, who I am. So I think that's

815
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: like an important part of dating, you know, it's getting

816
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: to know each other instead of like going on dating Like, oh,

817
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: I know what you're all about. That's true. I haven't

818
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: gone a date in the past year without really having

819
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: to bring it up, you know, whether or not I

820
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: want to, or just the fact that it's been such

821
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: a big part of my life. It's like something's missing

822
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: if I don't bring it up. Um, you didn't do Paradise.

823
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: Is that why? Because you like to keep your dating

824
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: for life private? Uh? That? And that I mean Paradise

825
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: is uh you know, it's like Bachelor on steroids. I

826
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: mean that's way out of my comfort and way if

827
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: the Bachelor ret was it was something I was hasn't about.

828
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Paradise was really out there, so, um, I

829
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: thought about it. I definitely, uh, you know, considered it

830
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: because you know, they just had to go out there.

831
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: It has fun with your friends and all that. But that,

832
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: especially after the whole lot of fiasco was you know,

833
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: the shotdown and all that, it was just a little

834
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: too much drabre for me. Alex, I mentioned right before

835
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: you came on and and to take please take offense

836
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: to it if you feel like you need to, but

837
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm this this this should not be offensive to you.

838
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: Um you just said you you would like the fact

839
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: that you're kind of under the radar. I actually didn't

840
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: know who you were when Acshuley or when Rachel said, hey,

841
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: I think Alex would be the next Bachelor. But when

842
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: I looked you up, I was like, oh, yeah, that

843
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: guy like and and So I was talking to these

844
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: girls that are a part of the podcast, and I

845
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: was like, what do you think of Alex and and

846
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: they explained to you as hunky, which is the same

847
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: thing that Nancy wrote to us in an email to

848
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast. She says, Dear Benn and Ashley,

849
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: why don't you ever talk about Alex from this season.

850
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: I think he is so hunky. Yeah. Well, I just

851
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: want to tell you, Alex that I definitely had people

852
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: would like to set you up with. You've always been

853
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: on my radar because you are very acute and very sweet. Um.

854
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: I was excited to see you and hopefully Paradise and

855
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: it's unfortunately we won't be able to get to know

856
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: you more. But how does it feel to be a

857
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: hard throw with the Bachelor franchise? Before you answer that

858
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: real quick? And Ashley has an eye for an attractive male.

859
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: She I mean she has her radar set at all

860
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: times fast taste. Um, I mean that's flattering to hear. Honestly, Uh,

861
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be honest. My life did not changed

862
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: much since The Best Friend because, you know, because of

863
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: going on kind of under the radarmy, Yeah you have

864
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: your you know, sort of like the hardcore fans reaching out.

865
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: Its kind of saying you have oh yeah, I, which

866
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: I think is hilarious because I didn't have it, so

867
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: I didn't have an Instagram coming into that, and we

868
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: did have this kind of a joke Instagram with my

869
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: best friend and once people started following, you know, like

870
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: looking up you know, trying to find me. That's the

871
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: only thing that was out there, so they started following.

872
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: So up, that's all I have. Now. Yeah, I hate

873
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: to interrupt you there, Um, I certainly did, but it

874
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: was just like on point, I was like, this guy

875
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: cares so little about the attention that he has a

876
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: joint Instagram. Yeah, you can't expect you, you know, like

877
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: if you know someone trying to slide into dms, you know,

878
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: my my best friend can do you can check me that. Hey,

879
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: you don't go savage on this, you know, just because

880
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: you can. So. I actually I don't reply to to anyone,

881
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: but for that reason, I don't want to. Thank God

882
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: left of me trying to impress my best friend. You know. Um, Alex,

883
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: do you do you get a lot of d M

884
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: these days? I mean that's something I've always want to

885
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: ask a guy coming off the show. I mean, are

886
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: your d MS loaded up? Do you feel like dating

887
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: life is just you know, who you meet in person?

888
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: I think actually, uh, and you know, maybe like the

889
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 1: way I was able to portray myself on the show,

890
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: most of the d MS that I saw there was

891
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: very very positive. Just think kind of like thank you

892
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: for being just scoofy and being yourself and just uh

893
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: sing out there having a good time, being genuine. So

894
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: it's nothing bad. It's like I said, it's so positive

895
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: and that you know, I think people from the like

896
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: many times as much as I could. Yeah, in that

897
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: way that I can't, you know, I can't be sponsor

898
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: to everyone. But for the most part, it's been it's

899
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: been great. It's been very positive and um very humble,

900
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: very thank well put for that. And you know, the

901
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: portrayal that I got, Like, I honestly thought I got

902
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: a better edit than I deserved. I was way more awkward.

903
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: I was kind of watching it, you know, and I'm

904
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: telling my friends with my guys get ready for me

905
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: to be super active. They're racking. I was shaking and

906
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: then we're watching. I was like, man, it looks like

907
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: I have a game. I was like, what, I don't remember.

908
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: It's it's the music, you know, they put the music

909
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: that behind. Okay, I'm gonna ask this to Dean too.

910
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: How close were you with Peter and why was Rachel

911
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: so insistent on him proposing? If she if? She claims

912
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: that she knew since Geneva that he wasn't the one UM,

913
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: so when you get to my friendships, you know, I see, uh,

914
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, with Dean and Peter Iggy probably the three

915
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: closest guys. I actually took my time really making friends.

916
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm not someone that makes friends real quick. You know,

917
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: we just get thrown in that world. Uh, and what's

918
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: pretend to be friends? I took my time. I wanted

919
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: to I know what these guys are about, you know,

920
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: kind of shoulder colors. So honestly, probably Dean and Peter.

921
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: I didn't get really close with them to like Norwhare

922
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: and maybe Denmark. I was really towards the end of

923
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: my journey, and I stayed in contact with them since that.

924
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: Um as far as uh in the proposal, you know,

925
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: I hate to be like, I don't want to pick sides.

926
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: You know, I'm in great terms with it, both Rachel

927
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: and Theater, and you know I'm I I told both

928
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: of them as a guy felt like a you know,

929
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: a child of a broken family, you know, trying to

930
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: please with both both parents. U Uh, you know for me,

931
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: you know what I told Rachel, I was hazardant about

932
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: the process myself. It's kind of like there where I

933
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: didn't know if I would be able to propose the

934
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: day and of uh, what was it two months? So

935
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: I understand where he's coming from, and uh, I would

936
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: see understand where she's coming from, because that's what she

937
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: came to to find out of this, you know, to

938
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: get the proposal. And uh, I think it was kind

939
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: of overblown as far as like that was the that

940
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: was the reason they broke off where it didn't work out.

941
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: I think I don't think that was as much as

942
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: big of a part to the break up as uh

943
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: as it seemed. So that's my view on that pick

944
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: the right guy, I think so yeah, I think she

945
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: really was looking for that someone that assertive, that comfortable confidence.

946
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: And you know Brian, you know, he stay the same

947
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: throughout that whole journey. I mean from Dave one, he

948
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: was all that. And uh, because you know a lot

949
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: of guys said, uh, you know a lot of guys

950
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: that got kicked off, they said, oh, I didn't go

951
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: I didn't jump in at first. You know, I kind

952
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: of helped back and you know, me being one of

953
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: those guys, we're all super hesitant. But Brian knew what

954
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: he wanted to hit, a game plan. He was already

955
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: remember Brian and I actually talked a lot, and you know,

956
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: I want to say that, you know, I was surprised

957
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: with the edit he got. And uh, the other thing

958
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: is even my guys talking about him on the show.

959
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: I mean, how was I supposed to know how smooth

960
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: Brian was, Like I never saw he was interaction with

961
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: with Rachel. So I was surprised that the other guys

962
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: knew about him, Like all right, um, but yeah, I

963
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: think Brian was more of what she was looking for. Um,

964
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: And uh, that's why she picked him. I don't think

965
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: it's it's because Peter didn't propose that she you know,

966
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: she went with Brian. I think it was always Brian.

967
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: I should mention that Rachel said today that that she

968
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: was offered a proposal by Peter. She said, you know,

969
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: while they sat there on that couch during their various

970
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: last minutes together, he said, if you really you want

971
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: me to do this, I'll do it for you because

972
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: it's what you right. Yeah, he said. It was kind

973
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: of like a compromise. You know, she didn't want to

974
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 1: you know, she didn't want him to propose just because

975
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: that's what she wanted. It was a way to keep

976
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: her pride at least, Alex, any last comments, I mean

977
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: to kind of close up here. Are you happy you

978
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: did the Bachelorette? It sounds like your life hasn't changed much.

979
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: Do you look back on this experience and see you

980
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: glad you did it? Oh? Absolutely, I mean I I

981
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: think honestly, I've probably had the most fun out there.

982
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, all the group dates that I went through,

983
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: like that was a perfect combination over you know, great

984
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: experience without getting overexposed or like putting out there in

985
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: front of any drama or anything, because that was a

986
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: big I mean, that is their selling point. Hey, you

987
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: wan't come out here for once in my life and

988
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: an opportunity meet a great girl and you know, enjoy

989
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: life you could never experience otherwise. And it's it's hard

990
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: to be so, I mean it really. I mean you

991
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: I booked on it. You know how fun it is.

992
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: Oh it's not always fun, Alex. It's not always fun, buddy,

993
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: Hey Alex. So that's the way that was at all harder.

994
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: That was not all fun. That was a more stressful

995
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: than uh yeah, than just hanging out with your buddies

996
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: and dayton one girl with all of them. Hey, Alex,

997
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: keep being hunky buddy, keep keep being hunky and I

998
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: hope we can talk to you again soon. On the

999
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast, I appreciate the guys, Thanks man Ashley.

1000
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: Alex seems, uh, you know, pretty pretty chill. He seems

1001
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: like he has his head on straight. I like, I

1002
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: like his perspective. You know, I think he's one of

1003
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: the few that haven't hasn't taken advantage of the social

1004
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: media fame or the monetary um options outside of the show.

1005
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: So you gotta give a guy credit for being unique

1006
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: and and that's exactly what it is. And and he's

1007
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: a pleasure to talk to. But he also kind of

1008
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: seems like a watch guy to me, said, Alex seems

1009
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: like the kind of guy that wears a watch. Oh

1010
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: he does on that manly arm of his, but he

1011
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: wears an m v M T watch. I would you know,

1012
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: just picture move we got he wears a movement watch.

1013
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: That's just what I see on his studely arm. That's right.

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1017
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1018
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1048
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1054
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1055
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: All right, it's time to call Dean. Hey guys, oh

1056
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: you mean hey miss you? I know I miss you too.

1057
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: A rough twelve hours wait wait, well, just to be clear,

1058
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: what was happening twelve hours ago. We're just watching the

1059
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: finale together, okay, wed We went to a sweet Courtesy

1060
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: for Ever twenty one and I heard radio Um alright,

1061
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: so Dean, I'm gonna let Ben start out with you,

1062
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: because you guys haven't really had a chance to talk yet.

1063
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I mean, I was I was

1064
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: just about to mute my my Mike, because I was

1065
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: figuring Ashley was just going to go on and on

1066
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: and on here flirting and talking about how beautiful his

1067
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: eyes were and all of that. Not m I don't

1068
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: really have a place here anymore, but I'm glad I

1069
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to dany babies. Nice to

1070
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: talk to you, ma'am. Alexander. Uh. It was absolutely incredible,

1071
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: I tell you what. I went down there open to

1072
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: whatever was going to exist, and God absolutely blew me

1073
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: away with everything happening. So thank you for asking and

1074
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: and just real click to all the list's out there.

1075
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 1: I was sitting on the back of a truck going

1076
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: through um a field in Honduras next to one of

1077
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: the people from the United States that came down with me,

1078
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: and she looks at me and she says, hey, do

1079
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 1: you know Dean. And uh. This lady's name was Sarah,

1080
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, I've talked him on

1081
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: the phone for just a short bit, but I a'll

1082
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: know Dean. She goes, I was sitting with Dean on

1083
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: a beach just a few months ago and was able

1084
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: to talk to him about life. And I think he

1085
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: is a great dude. And and Dean, I don't know

1086
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: if you if you know him talking about but one

1087
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: of the your friends from Los Angeles actually went down

1088
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: to Honduras with me this trip and she speaks so

1089
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: highly of you, and she said in that moment, you

1090
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: gotta get Dean down here. He has the heart for this.

1091
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: He loves to serve. This guy would get blown away

1092
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: if you can make the hunters. So, Dean, I'm challenging

1093
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: you to join me on a trip to Central America

1094
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: very soon. Hey November. That's right man, Uh Dean, we

1095
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: uh I love. I can talk on and on about Honduras.

1096
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: Everybody you know knows that behind the scenes. But one

1097
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: thing I want to hear from you. You know you

1098
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: were missed this week. I'll tell you that you're missed

1099
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: by fans. You're missed by Ashley a lot and I

1100
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: see him all the time. Um, Dean, can you catch

1101
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: us up a little bit. What has life been like,

1102
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: you know, since the show? Um, since the show has

1103
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: been aired, I mean, obviously you get recognized a little

1104
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: bit more. Um, I don't know if it's been it's

1105
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: been kind of a whirlind I just kind of figure

1106
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: it out and taking one step at a time. That's

1107
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: kind of why it's great to people to hang out

1108
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: with people like Ashley and obviously we sp briefly, especially

1109
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: able to talk to you guys who have kind of

1110
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: been put through the ringer already because one perspective that

1111
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have otherwise. I mean, you're getting a ton

1112
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: of attention. I'm sure you you you arguably are the

1113
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: fan favorite from this season. Uh, you went on Paradise,

1114
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: so you have some experience now in the Bachelor franchise.

1115
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean, are you finding it overwhelming or are you

1116
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: keeping your head straight on? I mean I'm trying to

1117
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: keep my head on my shoulders. Honestly. It's whenever someone

1118
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: approaches um, either me or asked me whoever I'm with,

1119
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: ask for a picture, Like it's just great to be

1120
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: able to be the reason to put a smile on

1121
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: someone's face. So it's like, as long as you're able

1122
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: to embrace that and enjoy it, I think it's I mean,

1123
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm having absolute lass of it, so that's awesome. Yeah,

1124
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: I've I've, like I said earlier, I've I've talked to

1125
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: multip people that know you and knew you before the show,

1126
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: and and and one thing that I haven't heard from

1127
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: the people that actually know you, but I've heard through

1128
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: the media and through um kind of the reaction from

1129
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation is, you know, Dean's too young, He's too

1130
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: immature for this, you know. And I don't know if

1131
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: people remember when I first did The Bachelorette, I was

1132
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: twenty five years old, and I had the same things

1133
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: said about me. Have you taken that personally? What would

1134
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: be your response to those critics? No, Um, I don't

1135
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: think it personally. I mean, I understand I kind of

1136
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: go through your life with a very like jovial mentality.

1137
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: I like to be able to be a kid at

1138
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: any given moment. Uh, But I don't know, it's really

1139
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: hard to say if only don't take myself or anything

1140
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: around me too seriously. And I can see how that

1141
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: kind of points me in this but sometimes, but um,

1142
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: I just like to know has fun and I want

1143
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: to make sure the people out around there having fun too.

1144
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: So that's right. Well, Hey, one last question before I

1145
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: turned over at Yeah, I think you're good there, buddy. Hey,

1146
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: you might want to jump in the bushes high man,

1147
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: they're coming out. Yeah, but those days are behind me.

1148
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: Those days are behind me. Uh, Dean, I have one

1149
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: last question for you, now turn it back over to Ashley,

1150
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: because I know she probably has a lot more insight

1151
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: into who you are and what's your life like now. Uh.

1152
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: It came out today that Rachel's saying that, you know,

1153
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: she told four people she um loved him, but she

1154
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: didn't tell four people she was in love with him.

1155
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: What's your response that? Because you're one of those guys? Um,

1156
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't see that clip of Rachel saying that.

1157
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't really don't how

1158
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: to respond that. To be honest, I think that now

1159
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: she's obviously doing what's right by her and in the moment,

1160
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: she was obviously living in the moment. So um, you know,

1161
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: she's happily engaged. She seems to be pretty happy with Brian,

1162
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: and um, I'm very happy for the two of them.

1163
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: I hope that. You know, obviously all the immediate senstion

1164
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: is positive and everything, and um, you know, she she

1165
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: has to do what's right by her and Brian at

1166
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: this point. So, man, you are learning quickly to politically

1167
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: correct to say I was like, man, I'm a fan

1168
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: of that. I tell you what job there was, Like

1169
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: he is going to Jared and Ben route, He's just

1170
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: being so careful. But come on, you know you can't

1171
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: get away with that with me. I'm the anti politically

1172
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: correct girl the franchise. Yeah, sometimes when I think about things,

1173
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: it's like, well, do I want to be politically correct

1174
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: or do I want to speak um, you know, perfectly

1175
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: off the cuff. But no, I mean, at the end

1176
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: of day, like we were all there for Rachel, we

1177
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: all were to make her happy. So you know, it's

1178
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: it's clear to see that she's incredibly happy with Brian,

1179
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, that's all we

1180
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: could really hope for. So, okay, I'm gonna ask you

1181
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: a couple of hard questions. Once the wind stops blowing.

1182
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: The wind's blowing, just like that proposal night, I think

1183
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: there's something it seems like it could have been foreshadowing

1184
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: in the episode, and right now it's just ironic that

1185
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: you are in the midst of that. So maybe Rachel

1186
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: is a little possessive over the top four. Maybe she's

1187
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: possessive over all of her guys. Is that why you

1188
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: think she has selected Alex as the bachelor the next

1189
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: bachelor of her choosing? Um, yeah, I saw that. I

1190
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: think she's just trying to throw everyone off. I mean,

1191
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, like you. You look at it objectively,

1192
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: and it seems like Peter's got the whole package. And

1193
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: I think that she was just so emotionally attached to Peter,

1194
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: and um, you know, maybe things didn't necessarily end the

1195
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: way that either of them wanted it to, so she's

1196
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: just been ready to see hand thrust back into that

1197
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: spotlight like that. And UM, you know, obviously we have

1198
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: no idea what's going through Rachel's head, but it makes

1199
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: sense from yours perspective. And I argued that, Um, if

1200
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: you still feel a sense of jealousy and you're not

1201
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: comfortable seeing your ex with some other people dating other people,

1202
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: that are you really truly over them? And are you

1203
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: really in the mindset to be with someone and be

1204
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: planning a wedding. Um, I mean I have had my

1205
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: jealous moments as well. Yeah, and so have I. So,

1206
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's really hard to say, but um, she was.

1207
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: She was so close with both Brian and Peter and

1208
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: Eric obviously too, so I definitely understand that she doesn't

1209
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: want to have to relive any of the romantic moments

1210
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: to an entire season. Um. I mean, obviously she was

1211
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: supposed to Alex as well, but I think that the

1212
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: emotions were We're not quite strong with him as she

1213
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: would as it was the left two guys that she has.

1214
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 1: Thanks for opening up the door for me to say,

1215
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm the last person to talk about dealing with jealousy

1216
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: on the show. I have dealt with it in the

1217
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: past very poorly on Paradise, So I feel you go, Yeah,

1218
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 1: I can't watch my ex is dating other people either.

1219
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: That's when you were talking to the parent if I

1220
01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: remember correctly, right, yes, my therapist. So then Ashley Ashley

1221
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: is going to be out of town next week and

1222
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: Dean's gonna co host with you, Ben, that's right. I mean,

1223
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here thinking I could be co hosting this

1224
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: show with the next Bachelor, and he doesn't seem to

1225
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: be even promoting himself for this role. So I'm gonna say, Hey,

1226
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: Peter might have the full package. Eric might have the

1227
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: full package. Shoot, Alex might be the full package. But

1228
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: I got a co host next week that I think

1229
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: is the full package. It's Deanie, Baby's baby. All I

1230
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: want to say is, Dean, how's your package? Classic Amy? Uh? So?

1231
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: Next week, Um, it's gonna be the first week of Paradise.

1232
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 1: We'll get the inside scoop from the from the man

1233
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: uh that I believe. I don't know this, but I

1234
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: would assume was the hot catch on Paradise. That's Dean

1235
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: right there, Dean. Next week, I look forward to talking

1236
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: to you, ma'am. Can I just say, like the girls

1237
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: who weren't after you in Paradise, what's wrong with them? Actually?

1238
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: You flirted with every single one of our callers so

1239
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: far on this episode. Are you gonna be in studio

1240
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: next week? I'm not. Nope, Sorry, He'll be in studio

1241
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: in Denver. Yeah so I Dean, I'll be in Denver,

1242
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: You'll be in l A. We'll we'll make this thing

1243
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: awesome and uh, I appreciate you. You co hosted with me.

1244
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: You'll carry the whole episode, I promise. I'm looking forward.

1245
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: I think were gonna have a black all right, man, hey,

1246
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you then. All right, take care, guys,

1247
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Ashley, have you have you have you picked

1248
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: your chin up off the table yet? What do you

1249
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: mean you guys? I am not like that with Dan.

1250
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: I mean I try not to be actually, actually, come on,

1251
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: let's just be honest. Here. You are. I've said this

1252
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: many times before. I'll say it again. You are the

1253
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: best at making people feel better about themselves than they might,

1254
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, feel before. So let's just do a quick

1255
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: little bit here. You got. I'm gonna time you. He

1256
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: got twenty seconds. Can you explain Dean in twenty seconds? Yeah? Okay,

1257
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: so okay. So Dean is exactly that jovial guy that

1258
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: he just describes himself as. And I love that he has.

1259
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: He has maturity, and he definitely has intelligence, but he's

1260
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: able to just have fun and like, just this is

1261
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: a description of how great he is, just encapsulating how

1262
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: much fun you can have with Dean. Um. I went

1263
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: to Best Buy with him, and then there's a Toys

1264
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: ARUs next door, where like, should we go playing Toys

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Speaker 1: Should we get ice fro him? Yeah? And then we

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Speaker 1: get in the car and he started playing Backstreet Boys

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Speaker 1: and New Kids on the Block for me. Like, that's

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Speaker 1: how thoughtful he is and how fun. Um, we we

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Speaker 1: think Dean's great because, like we said, next week, he'll

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Speaker 1: listener emails. The best part of the episode. I mean,

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01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: today's episode was actually full of goodness. But it was

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01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: really good. It was really good. I've learned a lot

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01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: about myself and these these great gentlemen who just participated

1328
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: in a season of the Bachelorette that I would say

1329
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: was good. Rachel did a great job. It was really good.

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01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: It just wasn't a great ending, but Rachel did a

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01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: tremendous job. To see. She was a great bachelorette. Alright,

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Speaker 1: So this is from Susan. It says, Hi, Ben and Ashley,

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01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 1: thank you guys for all the question answer segments. They

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Speaker 1: make my morning cardio more entertaining. Is it possible that

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01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: Ben will consider taking another shot at being the Bachelor

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01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: if it's offered to him. Also, if Dean is the

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: next bachelor, would actually consider going on the show, Thank

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01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: you guys, Susan. Susan, I could never possibly do that.

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01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: Plus Dena and I are too close in real life.

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01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: That would be bizarre if I were just to be like, hey,

1341
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm here I'm gonna just not be that girl ever,

1342
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: Never going to be that girl, no matter who's about sir. Um. Actually,

1343
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: I'd love to say I believed you with that statement,

1344
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: but I think if Dean was a bachelor and you

1345
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: had an opportunity, I would see you walk out of

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01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: a limo at some point. I wouldn't do it if

1347
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: he told me to. Let's talk about the real question here, Ben,

1348
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: would you ever be the Bachelor again? Um? That's a

1349
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: good question. And it's interesting that I don't have that

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01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: email in front of me. That was kind of a surprise. UM.

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01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: So that's uh, I'm sweating. Um. That's a good question,

1352
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: and it's one that I don't want to answer politically

1353
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: correct here. So I'm gonna be as honest as I

1354
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: can be. Um, at this point in my life, I

1355
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: am not ready to be the next Bachelor. I will

1356
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: say that. I. Uh, I just doesn't feel right. Um.

1357
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, it doesn't feel like a time in

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01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 1: my life that I would be the best man possible

1359
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: for the women that would come on this this season. Uh.

1360
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: And you know, honestly, when you're fresh out of a relationship,

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01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 1: you don't I just feel like that would be almost

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01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: disrespectful too, right. I mean, it would be really hard

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01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: for me to imagine watching If I were to watch

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01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: my ex go and be the Bachelorette and it's all

1365
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: over TV, it'd be hard for me. Um. So at

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Speaker 1: this point in my life, I don't think it's the

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01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: wise thing to do. So I will not be your

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01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: bachelor for this next season, but you'd be open for

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01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: a season or two away from now. Uh again, And

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01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: and this this is gonna come off a little soft,

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01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: but I closed myself off to a lot of opportunities. Uh.

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01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: In life, I've said I'm not gonna ever do that.

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01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ever do this. You know, if you

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01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: would ask me it's five years ago, you're gonna be

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01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: the next Bachelor someday, I would have said, no way,

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01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: no shot, I would never do that. And I did it,

1377
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: and I'm glad I did it. So I'm gonna say this,

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01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm open to discussing it and thinking it through. If

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01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: life kind of aligns again for that, then possibly It's

1380
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: been a good thing for me in a lot of ways.

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01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: It's been hard in a lot of ways. It's been

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: as sometimes actually a bad thing. But it's a huge

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01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: part of my life now and uh, I can't say

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01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: I would never do it again. That is a great

1385
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: response and in surprising. I don't know. I thought you

1386
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: were really going to cut it off. But it's good,

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01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: you know, And at this point it does feel cut off.

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01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: I want to be sure to say that, like, at

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Speaker 1: this point in my life it feels very cut off

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel you know. I have a with

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Speaker 1: Generous coffee company, with Mahogany workplace, the blog, with this podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. In my full time job. Life is busy

1393
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: and it's good and I'm doing a lot of things

1394
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: that I enjoy. Stepping taking a step into the bachelor, Uh,

1395
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem to be fitting and I don't think

1396
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: it will ever be fitting again. Alright, but but if

1397
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: if you see me, if you see me one day

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01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 1: standing in front of the mansion, you know, life really

1399
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: got screwed up from been here all right? Well? Ben,

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Speaker 1: That actually leads into our next question, which is from Zoe.

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01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: Hey love the podcast a lot. My question for you, Ben,

1402
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: do you ever think or miss Joe? Joe? Do you

1403
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: guys ever keep in touch? So I don't want any

1404
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 1: of these emails in front of me, this treat, I mean,

1405
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: this is his blast bend day. You've been they've been

1406
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: building up. Do I ever miss Jojo? Um? I think

1407
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: Jojo is great? I do. I've never not said that.

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: I've never I think Jojo is a ton of fun.

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01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: She's a beautiful person inside and out. I've met Jordan's

1410
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: I think Jordan's incredible. They seem very happy. I don't

1411
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: miss Jojo. No, Like the feeling of longing for Jojo

1412
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: isn't a feeling that I'm familiar with. It never has been.

1413
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: But if I saw Jojo uh and Jordan or just

1414
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 1: Jojo or just Jordan, I'd be excited about it. It'd

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01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: be awesome to see him again. I would. I would

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: love to spend time with both of them, catch up

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01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: on life and and you know, celebrate life as friends. Uh.

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01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: You know, I think what was the second part of

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01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: that question? There? You guys keep into keep in touch. No,

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01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: we don't keep in touch. I haven't actually don't have

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01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: seen her at one event, um since we got off

1422
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: the show. But obviously she's incredibly busy and uh, and

1423
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: we we haven't kept in great touch. But I promise

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01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: if we did see each other I'm sure it would

1425
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: be like you know, we didn't miss a beat. Would

1426
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: just be awesome to see friends again. That is wonderful

1427
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: to hear. Um, Ashley, I gotta step on you for

1428
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: a second, because we got to remind the listeners to

1429
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: email us anytime with these questions. Okay, we'll try to

1430
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: answer them. We won't answer all of them, I promise

1431
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: you that, but will answer the the good ones. Um,

1432
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: but please email Ben and Ashley at i heeart media

1433
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: dot com anytime, and who knows, maybe one day you'll

1434
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: get your answers answered right here on the almost famous podcast. Well,

1435
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: we got to finally see that season long a preview

1436
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: for Bachelor in Paradise. It's gonna be my first season

1437
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: watching without being a part of it. Like basically ever,

1438
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: season one didn't count. Um. The thing that was weird

1439
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: about that promo is it was not romantic whatsoever. Didn't

1440
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 1: see a hint at romance. Just seemed kind of like

1441
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: girls gone wild. What do you think about it? Oh,

1442
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: jeez ah, yeah, I would agree there there wasn't a

1443
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: lot of romance. I saw some. Um, I saw a

1444
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: lot of things that I don't know if my eyes

1445
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: should see and Uh, I saw a lot of tears,

1446
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: which is surprising considering the um just kind of how

1447
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: the show kind of had to pause and get back on.

1448
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: So there's obviously emotion involved. I would imagine there's romance involved.

1449
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: I actually, and then I can't say who. I've heard

1450
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: through the Bachelor Grapevine that there are some couples that

1451
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: are still dating that came off of Paradise, so we'll

1452
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: have to look and see who. That could be true,

1453
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: So there might be some romance. And also a side note,

1454
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: there's like a frame where if you slow it down

1455
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: you can see Adam's bare button. Really yeah, actually more that.

1456
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: More on that later. Hey, here we go, guys. It's

1457
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: so good to be back. Actually, I have missed you

1458
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: so much. It is good to talk to you again.

1459
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: You are just a light in my life, and when

1460
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm away for too long it feels a little darker

1461
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: than before. We're gonna miss you next week, though this

1462
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: will be my first time doing this without you. You're

1463
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: gonna do Tuesday and I'll be back for Wednesday because

1464
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna have two episodes next week for the premier

1465
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise. See See Your Film Me in

1466
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: as we go here. This is how light we are.

1467
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't even know who I'm talking to when I'm

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01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: talking to him. So we have two podcasts for the

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Speaker 1: first week of Bachelor in Paradise, Dean and myself then

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Speaker 1: will be hosting on Tuesday, and like I just found out,

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Speaker 1: Ashley and I will be back on Wednesday. So actually,

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Speaker 1: I'll miss you, but not for too long. But you

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Speaker 1: know who, we will miss all the fans out there,

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Speaker 1: so we'll talk to you then. I've been been, I've

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Speaker 1: been Ashley, talk to you soon. Follow the Ben and

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Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or

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