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Speaker 3: Is Human Events with your host Jack Pisovik.

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Speaker 4: Christ Is k Overnight fiery strikes across Ukraine amid the

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Speaker 4: quote only confirmed the need to put pressure on Moscow,

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Speaker 4: while President Trump is pitting his hopes for peace on

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Speaker 5: I thought it would be better if they met without me,

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Speaker 6: I want to see what goes on.

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Speaker 4: The president, saying he would join a future session with

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Speaker 6: If necessary, and it probably would be.

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Speaker 5: But if necessary, I'll go and I'll probably.

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Speaker 6: Be able to get it closed.

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Speaker 3: President Donald Trump has pulled security clearances from seven intelligence

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Speaker 3: They aided and embedded in this action, This seditious conspiracy

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Speaker 7: Well tonight, A Stockton truck driver is facing the hicular

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Speaker 6: Twenty eight year old hargender Seeing made his first appearance

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Speaker 7: President Donald Trump's putting teeth into a decade's old federal

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Speaker 1: Well, ladies and jentle and welcome on board today's edition

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily. We're here live in Washington, DC, back

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Speaker 1: Today is August twentieth, twenty twenty five, Anno Domini. So

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Speaker 1: the questions now come down. The bilateral meeting was held

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Speaker 10: And that's exactly right.

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Speaker 6: They talk about influencers, these are influences and they're friends

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Speaker 8: of Americans that see the writing on the wall that

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Speaker 8: recognize that they need to end this war, and there

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Speaker 8: are people in the current government in Ukraine that are

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Speaker 8: are realistic and behind the scenes they're trying to drive

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Speaker 8: an end to this conflict that preserves a decent future

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Speaker 8: for a Ukrainian nation. However, I think it's fair to

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Speaker 8: it is in their interest for this war to continue.

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Speaker 8: I think we both know that if there were elections

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Speaker 8: held the next few months, that Zelensky probably loses, either

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Speaker 8: loses to somebody like Zuluzhni, or he loses to somebody

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Speaker 8: on the super far right, you know, somebody associated with

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Speaker 8: like an A's Off Battalion or a right sector type movement.

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Speaker 8: So it is in his interest for this war to

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Speaker 8: continue for a period of time. And you can't ignore that.

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Speaker 8: And that's why the United States, just like we were

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Speaker 8: in March, needs to be prepared to use its leverage

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Speaker 8: over Ukraine to get them to agree to things.

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Speaker 10: We've got you.

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Speaker 1: In every way possible, and that's what President Trump is doing.

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Speaker 10: Dan.

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Speaker 1: Where can people go to follow you to get access

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Speaker 1: to what you're putting out?

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Speaker 8: Uh, the best place is on my ex account at

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Speaker 8: Dan de Caldwell. That's where I put out most of

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Speaker 8: my work these days.

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Speaker 1: Folks give him a follow serious stuff only over there,

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Speaker 1: that's where the work really takes place. Dan Caldwell, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much, Ryan for being on.

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Speaker 10: All right, we'll be right back. Real America's Voice Human

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Speaker 10: Vents here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, where's Jack?

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Speaker 2: Where is it Jack?

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Speaker 8: I want to see you.

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Speaker 4: Great job, Jack, Thank you?

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Speaker 5: What did Jock you do?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 5: We have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 7: We're always talking about the fake news and.

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Speaker 9: Demand, but we have guys and these are the guys

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Speaker 9: who are begetting publicist.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack, Sovic back here Human Events Daily really

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Speaker 1: excited to have our next guest on. We have doctor

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Speaker 1: Alejandro Diaz. He is from the Wellness Company and he

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Speaker 1: is the chief of pediatric medicine.

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Speaker 10: Doctor Diaz.

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Speaker 13: How are you, hey, Jack, how are you? Thank you

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Speaker 13: so much for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it was great to see you. By the

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Speaker 1: way over there in Warsaw, I said, I said, Wow,

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Speaker 1: the wellness companies, even over here in Warsaw, you guys

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Speaker 1: are really covering down on you all your travel, because

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Speaker 1: that's always when I get my Wellness company kit, I'm

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Speaker 1: always make sure, I grab it for my travel now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank god, the well those companies everywhere. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: it was it was a pleasure meeting you and I

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Speaker 5: think it was an amazing event during the inauguration of

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Speaker 5: Pressley and Abrotski.

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Speaker 10: No, it was great.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, TWC Dot Health slash post so,

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Speaker 1: TWC dot Health slash post. So get your travel kids,

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Speaker 1: get your emergency kids, get everything, folks. I want to

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Speaker 1: play now this clip that's just come out. It's RFK

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Speaker 1: Junior talking about this huge announcement on mRNA vaccines.

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Speaker 13: Let's play it.

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Speaker 11: At AHHS, we have a division called the Biomedical Advanced

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Speaker 11: Research and Development Authority or BARTA. BARDA drives some of

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Speaker 11: our most advanced scientific research. It funds developments of vaccines, drugs, diagnostics,

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Speaker 11: and other tools to fight emergent diseases and national health threats.

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Speaker 11: Over the past few weeks, BARTA reviewed twenty two mr

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Speaker 11: NA vaccine development investments and began canceling them. Let me

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Speaker 11: explain why. Most of these shots are for flu or covid.

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Speaker 11: But as the pandemic showed us, mRNA vaccines don't perform

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Speaker 11: well against viruses that infect the upper respiratory tract. Here's

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Speaker 11: the problem. mRNA only codes for a small part of

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Speaker 11: the viral proteins, usually a single aigen one mutation, and

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Speaker 11: the vaccine becomes ineffective. Millions of people, maybe even you

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Speaker 11: or someone you know, got the omicron variant despite being vaccinated.

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Speaker 11: That's because a single mutation can make mRNA vaccines ineffective.

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Speaker 11: The same risk applies to flu. After reviewing the science

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Speaker 11: and consulting top experts at NIH and FDA, AHH has

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Speaker 11: determined that mRNA technology poses more risks than benefits for

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Speaker 11: these respiratory viruses. That's why, after extensive review, BARTA has

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Speaker 11: begun the process of terminating these twenty two contracts totaling

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Speaker 11: just under five million dollars.

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Speaker 1: So huge announcement from our Secretary of Health there RFK Junior,

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Speaker 1: doctor Alejandra Diaz, can you walk us through why it

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Speaker 1: was And I think we've all sort of heard about

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Speaker 1: the issues with mRNA, but why was it specifically that

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Speaker 1: RFK Junior came in and said we're canceling this, it's terminated.

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Speaker 5: You know, Jack, What I can tell you is that

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Speaker 5: this is bad news for a few but great news

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Speaker 5: for the rest of the world. You know, as an

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Speaker 5: immunologist and very actively and enacted voice internationally during the

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Speaker 5: initiation of the COVID operation. I was against this mass

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Speaker 5: vaccination because that was an experimental vaccine and now we know,

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Speaker 5: unfortunately the damage it's already done. But what I admire

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Speaker 5: and deeply admire about Secretary Robert F. Kennon Junior, as

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Speaker 5: well as Director of NIH Doctor J. Back Cheria, is

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Speaker 5: that they promise to make America healthy again through the

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Speaker 5: MAHA movement, and that's exactly what they are delivering.

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Speaker 13: So I'm very proud of them.

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Speaker 5: I am very proud of President Trump, and I am

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Speaker 5: very proud of what they're doing because that's exactly what

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Speaker 5: we need. But let me make something very clear, and

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Speaker 5: it's important to mention this to your audience. Secretary Kennedy,

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Speaker 5: he wants to make sure that everybody understands that the

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Speaker 5: research for mRNA, the research for mRNA, will be only

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Speaker 5: for upper respiratory viruses. And I think that's an amazing

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Speaker 5: that's an amazing decision. I'm very proud of them as

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Speaker 5: an immunologist and obviously as a pediatrician.

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Speaker 1: So when we look at this now, the response from

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Speaker 1: Big pharma and anyone can just go see the headlines.

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal has a huge ob at out saying

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Speaker 1: rf case dangerous attack on m RNA research, biopharma drive,

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Speaker 1: Kennedy's m RNA cuts could set US science back, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Even the La Times is coming out now, the BBC, NPR,

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Speaker 1: they're fact checking and left and right, Washington Post. Are

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Speaker 1: we seeing this big industry response because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that he's doing exactly what he said he would do

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Speaker 1: in the campaign trail and that he's actually provid he's

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Speaker 1: actually demanding that real studies be done before US taxpayer

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Speaker 1: money is going to this new this new technology that that.

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Speaker 5: Is exactly right Jack, And you know, he he's delivering

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Speaker 5: what he promised. And I'm very I'm very supportive of them.

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Speaker 5: I had a conversation, very deep conversation with him once

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Speaker 5: through soon and it's amazing the the the amount of

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Speaker 5: knowledge that he has in terms of medicine. He's a lawyer,

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Speaker 5: but I bet he knows sometimes he knows more things

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Speaker 5: than many many of my colleagues. So they took an

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Speaker 5: amazing turn of canceling this twenty two mRNA contracts worth

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Speaker 5: nearly five hundred million dollars and that's something that's something

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Speaker 5: that's why I say bad news for a few and

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Speaker 5: great news for the rest of the world. And I

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Speaker 5: think this is we're going on the on the right track.

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Speaker 1: And so when it comes down to though, how should

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Speaker 1: people be looking at these mRNA vaccines. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of talk about them, a lot of skepticism,

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Speaker 1: a lot of worry. We now have several years of

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Speaker 1: data and just in terms of their mass adoption by

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Speaker 1: a lot of people obviously who took the vaccines, what

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Speaker 1: are we seeing that's come out as a result of this.

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Speaker 13: So let me go through the numbers. Jack.

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Speaker 5: There are approximately five point five billion people who unfortunately

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Speaker 5: to those jabs worldwide. And we we we are seeing

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Speaker 5: the damage. We are seeing the collateral of all this,

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Speaker 5: and uh, the side effects from myocarditis to pera carditis,

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Speaker 5: to autoimmune disease, you know, problems on the scheme or

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Speaker 5: to carry hives. Uh and and and infertility, so many problems.

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Speaker 5: And and I want to mention, you know, the turbo cancers.

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Speaker 5: We we are seeing an increase in turbo cancers from lymphomas,

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Speaker 5: brast cancer, brain cancer, uh, uh, you know, you name it.

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Speaker 5: There's there's a lot of cancer going on, and there's

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Speaker 5: a potential there's a potential uh risk that we have

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Speaker 5: to we have to acknowledge, and just right after the

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Speaker 5: application of this mass vaccination worldwide, which I consider a

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Speaker 5: human catastrophe.

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Speaker 1: And so when we're looking at it that way, what

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Speaker 1: are can you walk us through some of those those

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Speaker 1: symptoms for people who do potentially have these injuries.

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Speaker 5: Well, we see how I don't know if you're familiar

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Speaker 5: with pots pots syndrome, you know, these are patients that

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Speaker 5: weakness and things along that line. Their life just changed.

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Speaker 5: That's only four pots, and we're starting to see a

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Speaker 5: lot of pots everywhere. I diagnose spots very regularly in

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Speaker 5: my clinic. Also myocarditis with the inflammation of the heart

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Speaker 5: pericarditis with is the inflammation of the sac that covers

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Speaker 5: the heart. A lot of firework problems out, immune problems,

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Speaker 5: schein problems, and so this was a catastrophe.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 5: I was very hardly criticized because I first because I

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Speaker 5: predicted the pandemic a year before. That's the kind of

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Speaker 5: my journey. I predicted the pandemic because a year before

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Speaker 5: on the third week of October twenty eighteen, because I

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Speaker 5: was watching very closely what was happening at the global sphere,

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Speaker 5: what was happening in Europe, what was happening in Canada,

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Speaker 5: United States, Central America, South America, and what happened during

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Speaker 5: the gathering of the caravans in Hondudas on the third

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Speaker 5: week of October twenty eighteen. And we were just about

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Speaker 5: to be one hundred years after the last pandemic, which

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Speaker 5: was the Spanish flu in nineteen eighteen. So I only thought,

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Speaker 5: you know, this is chaos and we need a reset.

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Speaker 5: And there's I thought that it was a pandemic coming

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Speaker 5: and I said it on a national stallage.

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Speaker 1: We saw so much come out and everything that was done,

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Speaker 1: and then they handed the entire country over to doctor

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Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci.

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Speaker 10: And by the way, you know, every.

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Speaker 1: Time I think about this guy and what he did.

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Speaker 10: And you go back to it.

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Speaker 1: Ed Martin now has the emails that are starting to

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Speaker 1: come out that said, you know what, even Biden's Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice had problems with the pardons that we were

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Speaker 1: being signed by this auto pen That thing is completely invalid,

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Speaker 1: that that pardon was not signed by the President of

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Speaker 1: the United States, and he was certainly not acting in

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Speaker 1: good faith and of sound mind when he wrote that thing.

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Speaker 1: I think doctor Fauci's pardon should be challenged. I think

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Speaker 1: they should challenge that, take it all the way to

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. It was obviously not done properly, and

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Speaker 1: he needs to be invested. By the way, States can

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Speaker 1: also go after this guy and look at what he did,

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Speaker 1: the lies that were told, the fact that this happened

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Speaker 1: and affected so many people, That's what doctor Fauci needs

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Speaker 1: to worry about.

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Speaker 10: Be right back. Jack is soviec Wilmrk's voice Human Ben Saale.

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Speaker 9: Big guy, he's written there.

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Speaker 1: Look, everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 12: Go get it.

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Speaker 2: Eddy spent my friend life from the.

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Speaker 13: Beginning of this whole utiful event.

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Speaker 5: Pad.

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Speaker 9: We're going to turn them around and make our country

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Speaker 9: ready to get them.

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Speaker 1: Ay man, All right, Jack Sobik, We're back here. Human

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Speaker 1: There's been a story that has been and doctor Diaz,

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Speaker 1: this has been really rocking all over social media. People

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Speaker 1: came to me with it and then boom, we see

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Speaker 1: this in Martha's Vineyard just a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: Meat and dairy allergies they claim from tick bites are

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Speaker 1: now skyrocketing. Where in Martha's Vineyard this summer as well

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Speaker 1: as all over the country. They're talking about this alpha

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Speaker 1: gal syndrome. I want to play a clip now describing it.

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Speaker 14: Have like meat for dinner at night, and I'd be

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Speaker 14: absolutely fine after I ate it, and then in the

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Speaker 14: middle of the night, I would wake up and I

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Speaker 14: would be throwing up or have severe stomach pain. I

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Speaker 14: have abnormal levels of the alphagal in my blood work.

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Speaker 12: The bite of a lone star tick seems to cause

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Speaker 12: an immune system response that can result in folks having

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Speaker 12: an allergic reaction to the consumption or exposure to this

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Speaker 12: alpha gal sugar.

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Speaker 15: Prior to her diagnosis, Miller says she struggled with mysterious

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Speaker 15: and uncomfortable symptoms for years. Miller says she would also

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Speaker 15: get hives or rashes, asthma issues and fatigue.

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Speaker 14: You start thinking that it's in your head. You're making

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Speaker 14: these things up, the muscle aches and problems with my

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Speaker 14: muscles and stuff like that. What's the first thing you

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Speaker 14: go to. You go to an anti inflammatory, You go

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Speaker 14: to Thailand all you go to some ibuprofen. While I

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Speaker 14: was making it worse because they have Namo pots in them.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Diaz walk us through this. What is alpha gal syndrome?

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Speaker 1: Why does it seemingly cause this this allergy to meat

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Speaker 1: and dairy products and is this really just something that

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Speaker 1: came out of ticks?

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Speaker 5: Wow, I didn't know you're gonna ask me this, Jack,

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Speaker 5: But this is very interesting and it's very kind of

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Speaker 5: fairly new syndrome. And it's called alpha galzen or AGS.

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Speaker 5: There has been diagnosed approximately ninety thousand cases since.

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Speaker 13: The early two thousands.

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Speaker 5: That's pretty much about eleven thousand cases approximately a year.

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Speaker 5: And so it's what it is. It's a foreign protein

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Speaker 5: that it gets from a tick bite. And the reason

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Speaker 5: it's called gala alpha gali one, it's because there are

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Speaker 5: two molecules of galactose, which is galactose one alpha one

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Speaker 5: three galactose, and it's a foreign protein because that protein

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Speaker 5: it's unique for mammals specifically cows, pork, deer, and lamb

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Speaker 5: and many others, but these are the most important. It's

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Speaker 5: not coming. It does not exist in human. So once

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Speaker 5: you get infected or once you get a tick bite,

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Speaker 5: you will get sensitized and the patient will produce what

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Speaker 5: we call IgE specific antibodies. So when that specific person

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Speaker 5: of patient will eat red meat again, they can develop

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Speaker 5: what we call these severe kind of severe allergic reaction

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Speaker 5: with skin hives, swelling of the of the ears, the eye,

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Speaker 5: the lips, respiratory problems like coughing, wasting, shorteness of breath,

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Speaker 5: you know, heart problems as well as low pressure palpitations,

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Speaker 5: gastric intestinal problems like dire rea, abdominal pain, and you know,

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Speaker 5: it mimics an allergic reaction, almost an anaphylactic reaction, So

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Speaker 5: it is very interesting. The tricky part here, Jack, is

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Speaker 5: that you have to be very well trained. Why because

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Speaker 5: as allergists, we we see patients that they developed what

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Speaker 5: we call hypersensitivity type one that's an immediate reaction. Like

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Speaker 5: let's say somebody it's allergic to peanut, they eat peanut

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Speaker 5: and immediately, within minutes sometimes seconds, they developed the problem.

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Speaker 5: Same for the other allergies here it's a different story.

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Speaker 5: It can take from two to six hours after that.

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Speaker 5: So it's it's kind of tricky. And the other tricky

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Speaker 5: part for my allergy colleagues worldwide is that not every

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Speaker 5: time that the patient that it's allergic to this foreign

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Speaker 5: protein will develop when they rent me again, so it's

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Speaker 5: it's very tricky. It's fairly new kind of disease and

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Speaker 5: we have to be prepared. So I recommend to everybody

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Speaker 5: to go and be checked by their allergists.

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Speaker 10: I think it's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And for folks that are worried about this and in general,

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Speaker 1: run up on this. But this this syndrome, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's really just the symptoms of it are really strange,

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Speaker 1: and it's got a lot of conversation out there about

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Speaker 1: you know, where it really was that the origins of

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Speaker 1: alpha gao came from. And I'm honestly not someone who's

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Speaker 1: dug in on it as much as I was on

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, but I do hear a lot of people

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Speaker 1: saying that it's it's acts very differently to other other

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Speaker 1: syndromes that we've seen before.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So, so I'm an allergist, immunologist and pediatrician, so I've

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Speaker 5: been trained to see all sort of allergic reactions and

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Speaker 5: and and those kind of reactions. We have been in

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Speaker 5: touch with takes for thousands of years. We've been eating

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Speaker 5: red meat for thousands of years. How come this is

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Speaker 5: a new trend? So it's important, you know. Here, I'm

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Speaker 5: just I just want to put the facts and then

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Speaker 5: I want everybody to make their own their own conclusions.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, I think that's exactly right, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's obviously something new, some kind of new syndrome that's

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Speaker 1: come out. And the fact that it's all over Martha's

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Speaker 1: Vineyard of all places, is incredible as well, because you

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Speaker 1: imagine when you think in terms of vaccination rates, when

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Speaker 1: you think in terms of boosters, They've got everything, absolutely

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Speaker 1: everything up in Martha's Vineyard that you got concierge doctors

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Speaker 1: and all the rest, and yet even they can't seem

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Speaker 1: to figure out how to deal with this.

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Speaker 13: That is exactly right.

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Speaker 5: And something important to mention is that the vast majority

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Speaker 5: of all the cases, this close to ninety thousand cases

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Speaker 5: they have seen in southeast of the United States and Midwest.

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Speaker 13: So it's interesting.

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Speaker 5: There's you know, there are some important issues that we

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Speaker 5: have to take a look as salargists.

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Speaker 1: I think it's exactly right, and you know, it's something

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Speaker 1: that of course, you know, people worry about lime disease.

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Speaker 1: You know, even to this day, the other famous tickbore

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Speaker 1: and illness and is something that it's even to this

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Speaker 1: day as even though that's been around for decades, at

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Speaker 1: this point, that's still something that causes a lot of

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Speaker 1: concern and can be again in some cases, still be deadly.

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Speaker 13: Yes, definitely. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Once anybody is facing one of our biggest fear as

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Speaker 5: allergies or you know doctors, it's to encounter with the

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Speaker 5: patient with an anaphylactic reaction. That's a life threatening problem

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Speaker 5: and we have to act immediately. But I strongly recommend

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Speaker 5: anybody who are dealing with new hives and things along

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Speaker 5: this line that they go in and beat checked by

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Speaker 5: their local allergists.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more, and so thank you doctor Alejandro Diez.

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Speaker 1: never know. Thanks again for joining us, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: As always, you have my permission.

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