1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. Hugh was like, Hugh 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: loves to tell the story. He's like, he goes, I knew, 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: and she kissed me that she will never think of 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: me the same ever again, And he was right. 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Hi everyone, I'm Katy Kuric and this is Next Question. 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: Hi everyone, I'm Katie Kuric. Hi. Nice to see you all. 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 2: It's great great to be with you in LA. I'm 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: especially happy not to have been in New York the 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: past week or so, and I'm really thrilled to be 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: in conversation, as they say, with Kate Hudson tonight. I 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: have been stalking her on Instagram saying I wanted to 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: interview her after I saw this movie, and obviously my 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: persistence paid off. And I wanted you all to know 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: that if you enjoy this interview, you can hear it 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: again on my podcast Next Question. Please subscribe if you can, 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: and also we'll be talking about it in my newsletter 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: Wake Upcall. Go to Katiecuric dot com for that shameless plug. 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Thank you so enough about me, Please Welcome to the Stage. 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: Academy Award, BAFTO Award and Actor Award nominee Kate. 21 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: Hudson, thank you so much. Wasn't she amazing? Come on? 22 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: I mean, so, Kate, I love this movie. 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: I saw it a few weeks ago, and, as The 24 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: New York Times put it, quote through genuine word of mouth, 25 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: not the publicist orchestrated prattle that often drives awards season consensus. 26 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: Hollywood insiders are saying it is the best work of 27 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: Kate Hudson's career. 28 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I'm sure you've been hearing that. 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're tired of even talking about it, 30 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: because you never get tired of talking about this movie. 31 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: But I mean, how are you feeling right now about 32 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: the reception this movie has gotten, and really particularly your 33 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: extraordinary performance. 34 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: It feels amazing, you know, it really does. 35 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: It feels warm and loving, and I think the best 36 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: part of it is the response for the film, you know, 37 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: because it just touches people in a way that is 38 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: different than anything else I've really done. 39 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 3: It hits everybody in a different way about their. 40 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: Own life, and it makes them incredibly emotional and it's 41 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: so life affirming. And I just love hearing people's response 42 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: after they see this movie. 43 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: It's why we make movies, you know. 44 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: I was going to say, it sort of feels like 45 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: an old fashioned movie in some ways, right, and a 46 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: really beautiful story that is well told and not a 47 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: lot of special effects or any kind of Well it's dark, 48 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: but you know, uber darkness and moodiness. 49 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: It just feels real. Yeah. 50 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: Someone called it in an interview that I did trauma porn. 51 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: There's no trauma porn, and I thought, I was like, 52 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: I've never heard that, and I like that. Yeah, it's 53 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: not a cynical film, you know. It's like I think 54 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: that the movies that inspired me to become an actor, 55 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: we're movies like this that I watched and I was like, 56 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: not only does it make me feel like I want 57 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: to be a better version of myself in my real life, 58 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: but I want to play that part in this movie, 59 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, because it hits every single note. 60 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: Everybody, we're all hitting all the notes, you know. I 61 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: like that. You say it's not cynical. I think that's 62 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: really true. It's not. 63 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: In Craig Brewer, the writer director, it's sort of like 64 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: he has this pureness of heart and he just never 65 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: talks down to these characters, and it could have been 66 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: a very easy thing for someone to take a couple 67 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: that is quite kitchy in what they do, and Neil 68 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: Diamond music, which has its own flare, and it would 69 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: be very easy to make a very different kind of movie. 70 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: But their stories so beautiful and tragic, and their love 71 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: story is so beautiful, and Craig's like the perfect person 72 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: to be able to make a movie like this and 73 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: just have no cynicism attached to it. 74 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: And I think we need more movies like that, you 75 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: know that. 76 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: I know, let's talk about how you sort of found 77 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: this project because your agents sent you the script in 78 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and I'm curious when you read it 79 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: and you got to know on paper anyway, Claire Stingle, 80 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: what Drea you to the role? 81 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: Everything? 82 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: You don't read parts like this very often, especially for women. 83 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: I think, like the multifaceted parts like you're, the humor, 84 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: the love, the transformation into a different accent, you know, 85 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: part of the world, to then descending and having the 86 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: life force taken out of you, to then have to 87 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: come back up and then to perform and to sing. 88 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: It's not something that we see often as women that 89 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: have all of those things, and then if you do 90 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: see them, you sort of risk the fear of them 91 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: going horribly wrong. This is one of those kinds of 92 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: movies that could have either been really executed as brilliantly 93 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: as Craig. 94 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: Did, or it could have gone in a different direction. 95 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: So when you see that, you kind of long to 96 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: play parts like that. It's very often you read parts 97 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: that are more one dimensional. They hit an note and 98 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: they keep driving the note, and things like this. 99 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: Aren't aren't as common. But I think you're right. 100 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: In different hands, it could have been like totally cheese ball, 101 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: but it wasn't. And I think you're right. He did 102 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: a beautiful job. But also I think the performances account 103 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: for that as well. And you took this role very seriously. 104 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: I read. 105 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't exactly Robert de Niro and Raging Bull, 106 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: but you gained fifteen pounds. I want to know what 107 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: you ate to do that, because that must have been 108 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: really fun. 109 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: It was fun. 110 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 2: And oh my god, Kate, you stopped your skincare routine. 111 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: God, I sure did, but I don't. 112 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: I stopped my skincare, you know, partners in life, like 113 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: my botox, you know, but I still washed my face. Yeah, 114 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: I feel like you know, Look, it was the eighties 115 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: and the nineties, we didn't have those the kinds of 116 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: the plethora of lasers. 117 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: Probably a woman who wouldn't be doing that stuff anyway, 118 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: even if it were available to her. 119 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: Oh and I think, you know, it's a funny question 120 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: to answer because Claire is so beautiful and so even 121 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: though it wasn't my norm and how I live in 122 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: my daily life or my practices and health practices and 123 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: things like that, beauty practices. You know, transforming is all 124 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: what you longed to do as an actor. And I 125 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: was transforming into Claire, and and I loved every second 126 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: of it, you know. 127 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: And I wanted to respect. 128 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Who she is and what her story was and is 129 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: and do that in the best way that I could. 130 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: And it required that of me. 131 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: And I love the way that you actually fell into 132 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: the accent naturally because of. 133 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: Your my nanny. Your nanny was from Wisconsin. 134 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Nanny was from Wisconsin, and she had a very thick 135 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: Wisconsin accent, which I realized when I started this movie 136 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: was actually not really a Wisconsin accent. 137 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: It was like it was like a Wisconsin. 138 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: Sort of trying to lose the Wisconsin accent, which turned 139 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: into kind of Canadian so then when I went to 140 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: start studying Claire, you know, I had the documentary to 141 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: really study Claire, and then I had this great dialect coach, Jess, 142 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: who works with Hugh Jackman as well, and he sort 143 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: of was like, that's not how you say that in Wisconsin. 144 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: So there was sort of a you know, a mishmash. 145 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: But Kathy then became my assistant when I got older, 146 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: because I have trust issues and so I called her 147 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, is there any way you'd come 148 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: work for me and help me right now? 149 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: And she was like, no, I will never. You will 150 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: never be my boss. 151 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: I basically helped raise you, but I'll do it for 152 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: six months. 153 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: I'll help you out. 154 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: And twenty four years later she was still working for me, 155 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: and she just retired and went back to Wisconsin. So 156 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: the sing song of Wisconsin is in my blood. And 157 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: the custard, a lot of custard I got. And the 158 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: cheese curds, oh, the cheese curds. 159 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. And the Jimmys. 160 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: They have these things called jimmies that are like these 161 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: they're basically chocolate sprinkles, but they do them better. 162 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: Kathy always had them sent from Wisconsin. 163 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 2: I like Jimmy's you put them on the ice cream cone? Yeah, 164 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: diep them in the thing. 165 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 3: Anyway. 166 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about your singing, because seriously, isn't 167 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: it annoying? It's so annoying when people love are so 168 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: multi talented. I mean, it just kills me. And your 169 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: voice is just amazing. You released an album called Glorious 170 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. So what made you decide at 171 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: this point in your career, I'm going to sing. I 172 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: am going to be doing roles that require me to sing, 173 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: and I'm going to put out an album while i'm 174 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: at it. 175 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: So my father's a musician, my real father, Bill, And 176 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: as a little girl, I wrote music. 177 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: I've been writing music my whole life. 178 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: Not like I say writing, I'm like bad music, and 179 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: that's some good music, but mostly bad my whole life. 180 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: But I kept doing it and doing it and doing it. 181 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: And when I was nineteen, I started playing more instruments 182 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: and I thought maybe music would have been a big 183 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: part of my life. 184 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,359 Speaker 3: But I actually did a little movie called Almost. 185 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: Famous, and it completely changed my life, and music then 186 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: became something that was not gonna be really in my 187 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: cards in terms of making an album or putting music 188 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: out there like that. And at that time, it was like, 189 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: if you did anything that you know, don't break what's 190 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: not broken. And if I made an album and it 191 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: was not a success, it could have really hurt my career. 192 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 3: So it was like, just. 193 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: Enjoy the success, you know, enjoy where you're at. But 194 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: then in that one decade goes by, and another decade 195 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: goes by, and then another decade goes by, and I 196 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: was it was COVID and I remember thinking during lockdown, 197 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: like I are we all dying? 198 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: It's like, is this it? 199 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, you started to reflect on 200 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: your life, and my thing was, is I'm really proud 201 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: of who I am as a mother, right like what 202 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: I put in as a mom, God forbid. Something happened 203 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: to me. I feel good about what I'm leaving behind already. 204 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: But then I thought I about my creative output, and 205 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: there was real dissatisfaction for me of like I would 206 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: regret not putting my music in the world, not because 207 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: I need any validation, but because it's in me and 208 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: I have to get it out, and it would be 209 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: like I would never know what that would have been. 210 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: So that was it. I was like I've got to 211 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: figure it out. I've got to do it. 212 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: I've got to keep saying I've got to sing, and 213 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: I have to I have to put it out and 214 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: not be afraid, and even if for my kids, even 215 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: more for myself, because they know, you know, they seem 216 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: they see me writing and stuff, and I'm sure they'd 217 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: be like, why did mom never do all of this? 218 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: You know? 219 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: So I did it, and I did it without any 220 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: expectation of what was going to happen, and then, of 221 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: course what happens is is you put yourself out there 222 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: like that, and in this situation, it was received so 223 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: warmly and had so many people cheering me on for 224 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: my album. And then Hugh saw me on a show 225 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: and I was talking about why I made the album 226 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: and he called Craig the director, and was like, I 227 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: found your Claire and here I am, and I was like, 228 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: all of these things, you know. 229 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: And how much did how much did you have to 230 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: work Kate on sort of? I mean, you do an 231 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: amazing Patsy Cline, one of my favorite singers, with your 232 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: first number in the movie. How much did you have 233 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: to really work on your voice for this film or 234 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: was it just all natural to you. 235 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it's pretty natural. 236 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, okay, I'm not like a technical singer, 237 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: you know. I think part of the fear of singing, 238 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: of getting out there and singing, is like, I'm not 239 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: a trained singer. 240 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: I'm very instinctual. 241 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: I am now doing things to try to protect my voice, 242 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: and I know that I need to work the muscle 243 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: and all those things. But so for me, it's like 244 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: the runs and the stuff was never the thing I learned, right. Uh, 245 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: It's more more about like instinct. But you know, when 246 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: you get in the recording studio, you just start playing 247 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: around and you start finding that you know, your ears 248 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: starts finding sound and Patsy Cline and listening to her 249 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: and trying to like get as much of that as 250 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: I possibly could, you know, and singing her song. I mean, 251 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm such a big Patsy Clin fan. So that's like 252 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: it's dreamy the sings. Sweet Dreams is like crazy awesome. 253 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: Crazy is my go to karaoke song. It is, but 254 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: it's so hard to sing. 255 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: I don't know why, Picket, but it is really hard 256 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: to sound horrible. But anyway, Hi everyone, it's me Katie 257 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: Couric you know, if you've been following me on social media, 258 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: you know I love to cook, or at least try, 259 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: especially alongside some of my favorite chefs and foodies like 260 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: Benny Blanco, Jake Cohen, Lighty Hoyke, Alison Roman and Inagarten. 261 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: So I started a free newsletter called good Taste to 262 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: share recipes, tips and kitchen mustaves. Just sign up at 263 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: Katiecuric dot com slash good Taste. That's k A t 264 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: I E C O U r I c dot com 265 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: slash good Taste. I promise your taste buds will be 266 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: happy you did. 267 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: So. 268 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,239 Speaker 2: This is of course based on a true story obviously, 269 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: and I know you had a chance to meet Claire, 270 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: but not at first. Craig didn't want you to be 271 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: too influenced by her, but she did come to the set, 272 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: and I'm curious what she was like, what that was 273 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: like and her response to the film. 274 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, meeting her for the first time was 275 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: one of the great things because I'd been playing her 276 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: for about a week and a half, studying her for 277 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: about a month, and I hadn't met her, you know, 278 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: and so when she showed up it was amazing and 279 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: we just hugged forever. 280 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: I have it on video, I'll show it to you. 281 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: I actually should post it. I haven't even posted it. Yeah, 282 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: I don't know why I haven't posted it. But we're 283 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: just hugging. 284 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: And she was amazing and it was great, and you know, 285 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: it made me happy that Craig said, I don't want 286 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: you to get too invested in her personal story alone, 287 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: because that was his. 288 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: Job. 289 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's his vision, it's his movie. I feel 290 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: like if I would have gotten to invested in Claire's story, 291 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: I would have been a little bit more challenging for 292 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: Craig in certain things that maybe I would have learned 293 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: about her or saw that I wanted to incorporate. So 294 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: it made that kind of took the pressure off of 295 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: me a little bit, which was great. And then when 296 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: I got to meet her and get to know her, 297 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Craig knows. Craig knows exactly what 298 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: he's doing, you know, And so it was it was perfect. 299 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: It worked out perfectly, and she loved the movie. She 300 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: loves the movie. 301 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's a love letter to Claire, you know, 302 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: and her life is so amazed, she's so inspiring. 303 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: It is a love letter. But it's also I wouldn't 304 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: call it trauma porn, but it is hard. It is 305 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: really hard to watch when she is suffering. And I 306 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: think you did such a great job, Kate, depicting some 307 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: of these very dark moments in the film, her depression, 308 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: her dependency on pills, her psychosis, some of those tight 309 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: shots of you when she is institutionalized. I mean, how 310 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: hard was that to do and how hard was that 311 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 2: for her to watch? 312 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 3: I'm curious. 313 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't there when she watched it the first time, 314 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: but it was challenging. It was hard, you know, and 315 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine what them must feel like for Claritistic 316 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: and watch her life story. 317 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: For me, it's the challenge. 318 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Is the joy of what we do, right, So it's 319 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: one of those things. It's I guess we're kind of well, 320 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: not crazy, actors are crazy. It's like we love something 321 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: that's challenging and hard, and you know that you get 322 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: to really delve into well, it makes it it's so 323 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: much more interesting, right. 324 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it's why we do it. You know. 325 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: We want to like really get inside of something and 326 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: you want to you understand the experience and then do 327 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 1: the best thing you can to portray that so that 328 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: you can have this collective human experience and feel something 329 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: you know that can move you and transport you. But 330 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: I also like the process is really about how safe. 331 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: You feel in the environment as well. 332 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: When people create those kinds of spaces, you can go 333 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: so many places and then it sort of becomes channeling. 334 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: And I always say the process for me is just 335 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: like massive preparation. And one of the best things about 336 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: doing this right now is I feel like it's so 337 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: much fun to talk process instead of selling a movie. 338 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's a very different thing to sell a movie. 339 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: You know, we've talked for years and years and we're 340 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: out there, we're trying to get people in the seat. 341 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: It's really fun to talk to people who love cinema 342 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: about the what a process is of getting really involved 343 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: in a character. 344 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: Because you do it with. 345 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: All of them, it doesn't matter how challenging they seem. 346 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: Every character you do, there's so much process involved to 347 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: make it feel effortless. And that's the thing for me 348 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: is the effortlessness. It's like, I never want anyone to 349 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: catch me acting. 350 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: And you worked really hard, I know, to learn how 351 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: to work kind of in the world of prosthetics and 352 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: to play that role. 353 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: How did you prepare for that? 354 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: Thirty something years of dance class movement, I think again, movement, 355 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: dance understanding. 356 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: It's like choreography, you know, and then you let it go. 357 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: It's like you understand how someone walks, You understand what 358 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: kind of pain is attached to it. And you're carrying 359 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: and thinking about all these things as you're doing, as 360 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: you're performing, especially when you have for Claire, which to 361 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: me was sort of of a timeline of her like 362 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: recalibration and rebalancing herself from the accident to when she 363 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: goes down to pain cycles to how the pain and 364 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: the shame. I worked a lot on shame, how that 365 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: sort of affects meant you mentally and probably how you move. 366 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: And how you know and how you how your whole 367 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: body's functions. 368 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all those things are, you know, work hand 369 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: in hand, and so I work. I work a lot 370 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: with Larry Moss. I don't know if anybody has worked 371 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: Eyes the Vest. You get kind of addicted to Larry Moss, 372 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: but he uh, you know, there's so many different things 373 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: that you work on in one scene, you know, and 374 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: a lot of that has to do with the color 375 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: that's added, and then you let it go and you 376 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: just play the scene, you know. 377 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 3: And so that's kind. 378 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: Of with a lot of those moments where where I 379 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: went down, there was just a lot of a lot 380 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: of sort of imaginary things that I was taking with me, 381 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: whether it be an animal, whether it be color substituting, 382 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: like you know, like like the simplest thing for me 383 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: was like the door to my bedroom, Like what was 384 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: my relationship to that door at that moment? You know, 385 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: And those are things that you don't want anybody seeing, 386 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: But when you hear the door knock, what is the 387 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: history of that relationship to that door at that moment 388 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: for her? After those couple of days of being in 389 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: that room and going into her opioid crisis, and so 390 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: all that stuff matters when you're preparing. 391 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: You know, let's let's talk about Hugh. I don't know 392 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: how much time we have left, but we have plenty 393 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: of time. Good because I love Hugh Jack and Kate 394 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: does too. I mean, we were just going on and 395 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: on and on. He is truly, in my experience interviewing 396 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: a lot of people, one of my favorite interviews of 397 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: all time because he's the Honestly, he's so mind and 398 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: generous and wonderful. My husband helped me. Uh was came 399 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: over with me and he said, why don't you ask Kate? Yeah, 400 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: we know you love Hugh Jackman, but what one thing 401 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: did he do on set that really annoyed this shit 402 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: out of you? 403 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't. That is the weirdest question, isn't it. 404 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: But since you're gonna ask me, I know it was 405 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: probably nothing, right, Hm, Oh, we're gonna get a little tea. 406 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: I feel like no, but. 407 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 1: Hugh would want me to tell this story so in 408 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: the in the it's a really gross story though, so 409 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: but I'm. 410 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 3: Gonna do it anyway. 411 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: So when we were doing this scene, the proposal scene, 412 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: we were chasing the weather you know, was supposed to 413 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: like blizzard and it was going to be awful. So 414 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: we're trying to get the scene done really fast, and 415 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: it's on Hugh and we do his all his coverage. 416 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: We turn around onto my coverage and it was like 417 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: it was like my thank Sardina was like you're welcome. 418 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to put you guys in a snow globe. 419 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: And he's fucking like quarter size bigger snowflakes started falling, 420 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: and we all looked at each other and we're like, shoot, 421 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: like keep shooting, And we just started shooting in the snowstorm. 422 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: And then we had to turn around and turn around 423 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: on Hugh again and reshoot his coverage and We're going 424 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: fast and I go up to kiss him, and Hugh 425 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: has a little bit of an issue with when his 426 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: nose starts running in the cold. And let me tell 427 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: you something. Hugh was like, Hugh loves to tell the story. 428 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: He's like, he goes, I knew and she kissed me 429 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: that she will never think of me the same ever again. 430 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: And he was right, he goes, he just saw it 431 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: on my face. I was like, and he was like, 432 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I was. And then the whole time, 433 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking I have to go back in. I gotta 434 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: go back in to kiss Hugh. And I'm looking at 435 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: him and I'm like, did you wipe your now? Okay, well, 436 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad that question the only time he was not generous. 437 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: Or too generous. Yeah. 438 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: But but had you all did you know each other 439 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: before you did this movie together? 440 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: No? No, we did not. I mean we had met. 441 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: We had done a workshop together for this this show 442 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: that never got made, but I'm on broad Broadway show. 443 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: But no, we'd never worked together, and we had that. 444 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: We had the best time, but I was nervous because 445 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: I'd never done a love story like this and he's 446 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: never really done something like this. And my biggest fear 447 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: was that if the love story didn't work, the movie 448 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: just doesn't work. And thought it was the first thing 449 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: I said to him after our first table reading. I 450 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: just said, you know, I just feel like if we 451 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: don't have this connection, we risk the movie not working, 452 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: and so I want to do whatever we can to 453 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: get there. 454 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: And then I warned him. 455 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to touch you a lot, 456 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: and I'm going to ask you a lot of really 457 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: personal questions, and if you feel uncomfortable, tell me. 458 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 3: I have tough skin. I can handle it. And he 459 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 3: was like, no, let's go. 460 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: And he was so open, and we knew everything about 461 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: each other in like three days. 462 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: Literally, I actually think we did. 463 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: We like unpacked many years of our life and our 464 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: love and relationships and family and kids, and that was it, 465 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and then the second we started singing, it 466 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: was like oh. And I remember walking down the aisle 467 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: at the wedding and I looked at him and he 468 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: had this big smile on his face, and I had 469 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: a big smile on my face, and I was like, well, 470 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: first I was like, oh, marrying Hugh Jackman. This is 471 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: so fun. I love my job. But then I got 472 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: up to the to the you know, to the podium 473 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: and or to him, and and I was like, you know, I. 474 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: Feel like this is going to work. 475 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna I feel like we're going 476 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: to look like people who really are in love and 477 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: and and and we really do love each other. 478 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: So it's great. 479 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 2: If you want to get smarter every morning with a 480 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: breakdown of the news and fascinating takes on health and 481 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: wellness and pop culture, sign up for our daily newsletter, 482 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: wake Up Call by going to Katiecuric dot com. What 483 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: I like about him is he just had he puts 484 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: on no airs. You know, when you get to be 485 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: a big star like you and you're the same way 486 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: I think, Kate, you know, you get a little pretentious 487 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: sometimes and full of yourself, and I just have never 488 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: since that in Hugh Jackman. 489 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't believe the hype. We're sort of like, hm, 490 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's I think it's a Yeah. 491 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: He's got a great head on his shoulders, and he's 492 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: a like he just wants to entertain people. He's such 493 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: a connector. He would sit here and and he'd get 494 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: to know everybody, and he'd look at everybody's in the 495 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: eye eye, and he'd like know half of the people's 496 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: names in this room. If he spent an hour with 497 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: all of you, and he'd leave and he'd remember you, 498 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: and then you'd show up somewhere else two years later 499 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: and he'd go, Sarah, and you'd be like, wow, I mean, 500 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: he really is that. My son, Ryder, who only has 501 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: met Hugh a couple of times, he said to me 502 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: after one time we all spent some time together, he goes, 503 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: you know, Mom, if there were really still saints, I 504 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: actually think he would be one of them. And I 505 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: was like, but and he meant it and he's an 506 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: adult now, and I was like, you're right. He really 507 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: is that pure of like general. His generosity of spirit 508 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: is so beautiful. 509 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 2: You also, I guess after the movie was done, you 510 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: got together with Neil Diamond himself in Colorado, and you 511 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: have to tell us what that was like. I know, 512 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: he has Parkinson's and so I guess his health isn't 513 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: isn't the best. But I know I read you sat 514 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: on his porch with him, So just tell us about 515 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: that encounter, what that was like, and how he felt 516 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: about the movie. 517 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: He loves the movie. He loves the movie. He's very grateful. 518 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: It's really interesting when someone you you know, have learned 519 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: to admire. I just really just covered Neil Diamond in 520 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: this process and and hit and how prolific of a 521 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: songwriter he is. 522 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: Wait a second, Yeah, I discovered Neil Diamond. 523 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I knew like Sweet Caroline and Cracklin Rosie. 524 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean yes, but I I'm like a nineties girl, 525 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: you know. I was like, I was like a nineties 526 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: like you know, radiohead type girl, So like Neil. Neil 527 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: Diamond was definitely not on my rotation growing up. But 528 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: it was at karaoke and it was when I watched 529 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, Quentin Tarantino and Girl, You'll be a Woman Soon, 530 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: And so I knew of Neil, but I'd never like 531 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: gone deep on Neil. And I'm someone who goes deep 532 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: on artists, right, So being able to really understand and 533 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: and and get into his lyrics and understand him as 534 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: a songwriter was really eye opening for me because he's 535 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: pretty phenomenal songwriter and songs that you didn't even know 536 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: he wrote, you know, so, and to meet him and 537 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: to have him be so grateful for this movie was 538 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: sort of felt bizarre, you know, because we're so grateful 539 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: to him for letting us. 540 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 3: Kate's had a cough for three weeks, but she told me. 541 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm not contagious, but if anybody get sick, it wasn't me. 542 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: But what, you know, I'm curious was he grateful that. 543 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: One of the things many things I liked about this 544 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: film is even for someone like me who knows most 545 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,239 Speaker 2: of Neil Diamond's well known songs, I think there were 546 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: a lot of songs that I hadn't heard, you know, 547 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: the one that you sang at the funeral, for example, 548 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: and the weird. 549 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: Solo what is that suliman? I've never heard that song? Yeah, 550 00:30:53,560 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 1: come on, that's like I that Craig is like, I 551 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: want that to be a song that has played every graduation. 552 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: His goal in this movie was to make that song 553 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: the song. No you know, Neil was what he said 554 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: to me is he said every once in a while, 555 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: something comes along and gives my music a new life 556 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: to a new generation. And he thanked me, and he 557 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: thanked you for giving his music that opportunity to meet 558 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: new people. 559 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: And I just thought that was so beautiful. And we 560 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 3: got to sit on. 561 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: The porch and drink lemonade and he would just tell 562 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: stories and I'd listen, and it was great. 563 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: You know, that's such a treat. 564 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: It was. 565 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: I think someone told me Hugh was on a show 566 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: or when he went to visit him. I don't know 567 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: if this happened with you too, Kate, that anytime anyone 568 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: in Neil Diamond's house says something like oh this pie 569 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: is so good. Yeah, that he makes everyone say so good, 570 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: so good, so good? 571 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: Is that true whole family. 572 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: But it's not like it's it's like it's almost like 573 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: a superstition now. So like if I'm like, oh god, 574 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: I went to the store and they had this, like 575 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, candle, it was so good, and you'll just 576 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: hear someone go so good, and the other person will 577 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: go so good, and then after like five times it 578 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: happens in the house. 579 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: I asked, well, I went. 580 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: I went first, and then he went after, and and 581 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: and it happened to me and I said, are you 582 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: guys saying so good, So good? 583 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: And and they're like, oh, yeah, we do that. 584 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: You have to in the family, Like if someone says that, 585 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: you have to say it twice. So funny, and then 586 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: Hugh went. I didn't say anything, and he went and 587 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: then he called me. He's like, did you hear that 588 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: thing where they do so good, So Good? I was like, Hey, 589 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: did it? 590 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: Yes? I mean, it's kind of amazing. 591 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: And so the whole press tour you realize how much 592 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: you say so good Now you're going to realize it 593 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: after this you say it all day long and we 594 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: just all we just say it, and how now it's 595 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: like second nature. 596 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: So well, I know, it's been twenty five years since 597 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: your first OSCAR nomination for Almost Famous, which I can't 598 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: believe has been twenty five years. And as I mentioned, Kate, 599 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: you've been nominated for an Academy Award for Best Actress. 600 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: So excited, a BAFTA Award, and an Actor Award for 601 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: your role obviously as Claire in Song Sung Blues. So 602 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: how excited are you for the Oscars? And I mean, 603 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: how are you feeling going into that? Really big night 604 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: in terms of winning or being a part of it. Well, 605 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: is it an honor just to be nominated or is 606 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 2: that bullshit? 607 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: It really is you know, we had our bullshit now 608 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: I know it really is. 609 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: It really is an honor. 610 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: It isn't really inspiring time for me and I think 611 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: for everybody involved. And we had the Oscars luncheon yesterday 612 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: and it's so awesome. 613 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: It's just I was just hoping you were gonna say, 614 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: it's so good, it's so good, so good, so good, but. 615 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: It really is, Like it's just it's just you look 616 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: around and you know, everybody works so hard to get 617 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: movies made, and let alone being in what is considered 618 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,959 Speaker 1: the group of some of the best movies of the year, 619 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: it's just an amazing thing to be a part of, 620 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: you know. 621 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 3: And when you. 622 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: Really, like I think, I think, when you grow up 623 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: in the business, when you have parents who do it, 624 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, like I did, and do you see it 625 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: from a totally different perspective. You see how hard everybody's 626 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: working to get something off the ground, and you see 627 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: the fighting of trying to get a movie made the 628 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: way you you want to get that movie made, trying 629 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: to get the people that you actually want in the 630 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: movie versus who the financiers wants you in on the movie. 631 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: It's everything you do to get something made is an 632 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: uphill battle. 633 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: It's never easy. 634 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: And so when you're in that room and you get 635 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: to celebrate all of the you see everyone celebrating. 636 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 3: I'm not even just talking about. 637 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: Myself, but those uphill battles, the wins, you know, it's 638 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: just a great feeling. And we all have done this, 639 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: at least for me and for most people in that room. 640 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: You know. Now I'm two. 641 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: Decades well, four decades in, I guess, but two decades 642 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: in for my own personal experiences, and I still love it. 643 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: I still love what it is. I still love the good, bad, 644 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: and the ugly of it. And I'm so happy to 645 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: be soaking it all in right now. 646 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: And I think on. 647 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: The day, it's like you're happy, happy, happy, and then 648 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's your category and you're like. 649 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: It's okay if I win. 650 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: I really notice if I won, and then it's like 651 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: a flash, it's over and you either win or you don't. 652 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: And I've already experienced not winning once, so I know 653 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: what that feels like. 654 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 3: And you know, who knows. 655 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll maybe I'll get the other way around, or 656 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: maybe I'll just have the same experience. But honestly, like, 657 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: it's just amazing to be able to be there. And 658 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: I was going to say, it must be so gratifying. 659 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: I feel like people, to your point, work so hard. 660 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: It's such an uphill battle, and it's so much blood, 661 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: sweat and tears to get a movie made, to be 662 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: in one and to realize your performance the film was 663 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: so well received, but your performance in particular really touched 664 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,479 Speaker 1: people and move people and inspired people. That just must 665 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: be so gratifying in and of itself that that, in 666 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: many ways is the prize. 667 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 3: It is, it really is. 668 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: I also think, you know, I've always made I love 669 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: making movies for myself, and I love making movies, you know, 670 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: to sort of you know, stoke the fire in me, 671 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: the creative fire. 672 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 3: But I really make movies for people. 673 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: And when you see how movies touch people and you 674 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: feel that connection with them in real life, when you're 675 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: walking down a street or sitting at a restaurant, someone 676 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: turns to you and tells you a story about why 677 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: a movie you did or a part you did mean 678 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: something to them. 679 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 3: It is the essence of why I love. 680 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: To make movies, and so this part in particular, you know, 681 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: it's like this is like the cherry on top, you know. 682 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful that this performance is being seen 683 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: in this way, you know, because it's we I put 684 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 1: a lot into it, so it feels really, really really good. 685 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 2: Well, I thank on behalf of everyone here tonight. We're 686 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: thrilled for you. Congratulations on everything. Thank you, thanks for 687 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: listening everyone. If you have a question for me, a 688 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: subject you want us to cover, or you want to 689 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 2: share your thoughts about how you navigate this crazy world, 690 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: reach out, send me a DM on Instagram. I would 691 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: love to hear from you. Next Question is a production 692 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: of iHeartMedia and Katie Couric Media. The executive producers are Me, 693 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: Katie Kuric, and Courtney Ltz. Our supervising producer is Ryan Martz, 694 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: and our producers are Adriana Fazzio and Meredith Barnes. 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