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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast.

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Speaker 2: The next year is gonna be better than this year's edition,

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Speaker 2: as I discussed this year's schedule with one of the

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Speaker 2: people most responsible for putting it together, NFL VP of

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Speaker 2: Broadcast Planning, Mike North. But first a pair of five

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Speaker 2: minute conversations with one of this year's third round draft picks,

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Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton and last year's first round draft pick, Miles Murphy.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to football.

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Speaker 2: Since the draft, I've been having fun with this year's

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Speaker 2: class by asking them five questions specifically for each player.

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Speaker 2: Among other things, we've learned that first round draft pick

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Speaker 2: a Marius Mims hasn't surrendered a sack since he was

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Speaker 2: a junior in high school, and that second round draft

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Speaker 2: pick Chris Jenkins considers himself a nerd with a comic

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Speaker 2: book collection. Now time to learn about the first of

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Speaker 2: two players selected in Round three. Time for five questions

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Speaker 2: with rookie wide receiver Jermaine Burton. Question number one, you

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Speaker 3: You know, the competitiveness and the environment, hands down, you know,

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Speaker 3: plan for those you know, particular programs. You know, it

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Speaker 3: comes with a lot of you know, competition, you know,

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Speaker 3: So you know, that's probably the most main thing, is

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Speaker 2: Question two, is there an NFL wide receiver that you

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Speaker 3: It's so many great receivers in the NFL that have

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Speaker 4: So if I had to pinpoint one.

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Speaker 3: But I do feel like there are, you know, probably

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Speaker 2: I think of you as a taller Steve Smith. Do

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Speaker 2: the Ravens when I watched your highlights, that's the person

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Speaker 4: No facts that I love that, I love that. I

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Speaker 2: All right, Question number three for Jermaine Burke. And we

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Speaker 3: You know that no matter what, it's a business, and

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Speaker 3: Of course, you know that TJ is a real uh

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Speaker 5: Dude.

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Speaker 2: Know he holds the franchise record for most catches in

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Speaker 2: hell of a player. Question number four for Jermaine Burton,

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Speaker 2: who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport

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Speaker 4: I probably said Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 4: And uh, I love his energy.

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Speaker 1: It right with me.

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Speaker 2: It was weird, alright. Fifth and final question for Jermaine Burton.

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Speaker 2: Tell us something about you that not many people know.

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Speaker 4: You know, I love space, into astrology, and I believe in.

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Speaker 2: Aliens a triple crown. So how into space? I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yes, ultimately a bucket list, you know, cross off that

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, you believe in aliens. He kind of

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Speaker 2: looked like one on the football field. It's great to

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Speaker 2: have you in Cincinnati. Appreciate the time that's sluck going forward.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, boss man. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: For what it's worth.

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Speaker 2: I think Jermaine has looked extremely impressive in his first

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Speaker 2: Speaking of looking impressive, I posted some video on Twitter

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Speaker 1: Maybe in the morning.

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Speaker 5: Fifty people at my drab party, so it was and

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Speaker 1: And then phone rang got around close.

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Speaker 5: To midnight, so it was it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a fun night because one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: We're visiting with Miles Murphy. Tell me about your off season.

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Speaker 2: What have you done for fun? What have you done

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Speaker 5: Okay, right after this season, went back home to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: So I admitted.

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Speaker 5: I immediately flew out to Arizona for all of February

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Speaker 5: back to Atlanta for March. Up until now, just really

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Speaker 1: We get close to the season, lean out.

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Speaker 2: Right before the season, going into the draft, you're trying

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Speaker 2: to win the Olympics essentially fastest time you can have

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Speaker 2: win all these tests. Now that you've had an experience

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Speaker 2: of playing a season in the NFL, does it change

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Speaker 2: where you say, all right, strength is what I need

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Speaker 5: I will say there are two types of conditions. There's

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Speaker 1: By saying endurance is great, strength is there.

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Speaker 5: So I feel like my preparation for this upcoming season

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Speaker 2: How did you feel about your game and the final

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Speaker 1: How did you grow?

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. Great to say.

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Speaker 2: the NFL had some great options for the NFL Kickoff

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Speaker 1: of Monday, Sunday, Thursday or at the end there, like

441
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Speaker 1: we mentioned on the Christmas round robin Sunday, Saturday, Wednesday.

442
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Speaker 1: That's just the nature of the beast right now is

443
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Speaker 1: we've got more prime time games obviously everybody playing or

444
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Speaker 1: at least more Thursday night games, if not everybody playing well,

445
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Speaker 1: and that means some teams are playing multiples and so

446
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 1: you do run into that stretch, and it's the kind

447
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Speaker 1: of thing we'll keep an eye on from a player

448
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Speaker 1: health and safety standpoint, from a players and coaches preparation standpoint,

449
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Speaker 1: and really from a fans standpoint and adjusts moving forward

450
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Speaker 1: if we need to.

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Speaker 3: So.

452
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Speaker 2: One of the first things that we all tend to

453
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Speaker 2: look at when the schedule comes out, of the number

454
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Speaker 2: of primetime games the Bengals play in five, they also

455
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Speaker 2: have three late afternoon games on Sunday. From the NFL standpoint,

456
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Speaker 2: are those games just as quote unquote prestigious?

457
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Speaker 1: Yeah, very much so, very much so. In fact, you

458
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Speaker 1: could make a case maybe even slightly more so most weekends.

459
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Speaker 1: The Sunday four thirty Eastern time window, that's the most

460
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Speaker 1: watched window for the NFL most weekends. So you're talking

461
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Speaker 1: about an average of twenty five, twenty six, twenty eight

462
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Speaker 1: million watching at four point thirty in the afternoon on

463
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Speaker 1: a Sunday. That tells you you know what the league

464
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Speaker 1: thinks about these teams when they put them into those windows.

465
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Speaker 1: The prime time is special, no question about it. The

466
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Speaker 1: fans obviously pay attention under the light, it's a little

467
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Speaker 1: more buzz. The players love it because they know the

468
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Speaker 1: other players in the league are watching. So primetime is

469
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Speaker 1: still special. But we shouldn't dismiss the fact that those

470
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Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon for twenty five Eastern time windows still the

471
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Speaker 1: NFL's most viewed windows still our biggest windows. So as

472
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Speaker 1: you count up primes, you really should like you to

473
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Speaker 1: Dan count those four to twenty five games as well.

474
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Speaker 1: They're true national games most weekends.

475
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Speaker 2: The Bengals were a candidate for one international game this year.

476
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Speaker 2: They were eligible at least to go to Germany to

477
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Speaker 2: take on the Panthers. He went with the New York

478
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 2: Giants instead. Were the Bengals a team that Carolina wanted

479
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Speaker 2: to keep on its true home schedule.

480
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Speaker 1: You know, you'd have to ask the Panthers that they

481
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Speaker 1: don't get that right. They were still adjusting whether or

482
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Speaker 1: not we should be sending division games overseas. We've done

483
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Speaker 1: it a couple of times. I think Indian Jacksonville played.

484
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Speaker 1: I believe the Jets and Dolphins played. But most teams

485
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Speaker 1: are not eager to take those division games out of

486
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Speaker 1: their home stadiums. And it's interesting because sometimes the visiting

487
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Speaker 1: team says, yes, it's an extra long trip. Like we said,

488
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Speaker 1: those division games are usually pretty close together. You know,

489
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Speaker 1: nobody's volunteering for that, you know, eight hour flight for

490
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Speaker 1: what could have been a one and a half hour flight.

491
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Speaker 1: But to play a division on a neutral field instead

492
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Speaker 1: of in their building. You know, there's definitely teams I

493
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Speaker 1: think would be up for that. So each team does

494
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Speaker 1: get to have some influence over whether or not a

495
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: division game can go abroad, and then they get one

496
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Speaker 1: game each year that they can actually you know, throw

497
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: their bodies over and say that one's got to stay here.

498
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Speaker 1: So to your point, the Bengals were a candidate. We

499
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Speaker 1: talk to the Bengals about, hey, if you do go,

500
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Speaker 1: how do you want to handle that in terms of

501
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: the week before the week after do you want the buy?

502
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Speaker 1: Knowing Germany always kind of falls in that mid November,

503
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: most teams are eager to take their buy coming back

504
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: from that trip. But you're starting to see, and I

505
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: know the Bengals saw it. You know, these European trips

506
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: are becoming a lot more routine. Fans you know, accept

507
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Speaker 1: them as really just another game, and the players and

508
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: the coaching staff do as well. More often than not,

509
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: the teams go over kind of Friday Saturday right before,

510
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: stay in their routine, come home, and then play a

511
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Speaker 1: home game. They don't even take their buys most of

512
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: the time anymore. So really it's just another game at

513
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Speaker 1: this point, And I think our teams have gotten into

514
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Speaker 1: a really good routine. The Bengals weren't selected this year,

515
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Speaker 1: but they'll surely be in the mix really kind of

516
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Speaker 1: every year moving forward. I think we've said it like

517
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Speaker 1: we're looking at seven, maybe eight international games a year.

518
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: That's half the league that's going to be playing somewhere

519
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: other than domestically. It's going to fall repeatedly over and

520
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: over again, you know, if not on the same teams,

521
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: like all kind of bad luck. If you will, moves

522
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: around a little bit and everybody will, everybody will pay

523
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Speaker 1: their dues.

524
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Speaker 2: Let's specifically look at next year. The Bengals have the

525
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: extra home game. They've not given up a home game

526
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Speaker 2: to play internationally since twenty sixteen. It seems to me

527
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Speaker 2: that it's probably a pretty strong likelihood that the Bengals

528
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Speaker 2: will play an international game somewhere.

529
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Speaker 1: Is that safe to say? It's good deductive reasoning. I'm

530
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Speaker 1: not sure we've locked in next year. Let's you know,

531
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Speaker 1: still catching our breath from this year. But I've met

532
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Speaker 1: several times with our international group and they have not

533
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Speaker 1: just you know, a one or a two year look ahead,

534
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: but they've really got you know, five, six, eight year

535
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: look ahead, and they are talking about some wild places.

536
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Speaker 1: They're talking about Dubai, they're talking about Asia there, talking

537
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: about different places in South America, more countries in Europe.

538
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: You know, as we build out more and more games, Yeah,

539
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna you know, take one of their rotation by rotation,

540
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: Like you said, once every I think it was once

541
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Speaker 1: every eight years and now we're kind of down to

542
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: once every four. So the more we play, the more

543
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Speaker 1: teams we're gonna need to go over you know, maybe

544
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Speaker 1: multiple times. I don't know one hundred percent if the

545
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: Bengals are on the list, but they're surely on the

546
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Speaker 1: short list for twenty twenty five.

547
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Speaker 2: The city of Cincinnati has a strong German heritage. Would

548
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Speaker 2: that factor in at all in determining whether Cincinnati should

549
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: play there?

550
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Speaker 1: Sure? Sure, I think we're looking at, you know, not

551
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Speaker 1: just the fans here in the States, but also the

552
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: fans in those other markets. And you saw it a

553
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: little bit with Kansas City last year when they had

554
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Speaker 1: you know what, one hundred thousand fans walking to the

555
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: stadium like that. If there is a fan base for

556
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 1: the Bengals in Dubai or Germany or Brazil, we'll surely

557
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: want to make sure that those fans get a chance

558
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: to see the team, you know, their favorite teams. So yeah,

559
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: factors into everything. It's never as simple as because of

560
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: this than that. As you can imagine two hundred excuse me,

561
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy two piece jigsaw puzzle can't satisfy everybody.

562
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, those are the kind of things we take

563
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Speaker 1: into account as we're looking, like we said, four six,

564
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Speaker 1: eight years down the road.

565
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Speaker 2: A couple more questions from Mike North, the NFL's VP

566
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Speaker 2: of broadcast planning. NFL games are coming to Netflix on

567
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Speaker 2: Christmas Day. Are we reaching the saturation point with streaming

568
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Speaker 2: platforms or is that going to continue to grow?

569
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question. I think the NFL is

570
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, thinking that we fish where the

571
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: fish are, and you know, maybe not you and me, Dan,

572
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: but our kids are certainly using those streaming platforms just

573
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: like any other television station. You know, when we grew

574
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: up and you were clicking through the channels, it was two, five,

575
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Speaker 1: seven nine, And now when they flip through the channels,

576
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: it's Netflix, Hulu, Apple TV paramount. Plus they don't bat

577
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: an eye at the streaming services and you're starting to

578
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: see as we play more of these games on these services,

579
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Speaker 1: the viewership is approaching, you know, broadcast television levels. You

580
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: think about that Wildcard game last year on Peacock that

581
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: got twenty three twenty four million viewers. That's comparable to

582
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: what NBC did in that window of the previous season.

583
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: So as those platforms become viable outlets for our games,

584
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: as those platforms are eager to get into business with

585
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: the National Football League. That's probably the amazing thing about

586
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: what happened with Christmas this year. It actually happened the

587
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: other way. We decided to play on Christmas. We decided

588
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: these four games, and they were kind of on the schedule,

589
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: or at least on a mock schedule for probably a

590
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: few weeks before they then went out to the partners

591
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: and Hans Schroeder and the business team actually went out

592
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: and started trying to find a broadcast home for these games.

593
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Speaker 1: So we'd kind of already chosen the games, chosen the

594
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Speaker 1: four teams in the round robin. Then they went out

595
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Speaker 1: to the partners and said, yep, we're gonna be able

596
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Speaker 1: to find a way to play on Wednesday. Are you interested?

597
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: And thankfully everybody was, including somebody with whom we hadn't

598
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: really been in business before, in Netflix, at least for

599
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: live games. We've obviously got you know, some other stuff

600
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: going on with them with quarterback and receivers, so they've

601
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: kind of felt like they have an NFL fan base

602
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: kind of already built in. And when you think about

603
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: the global implication the global rights deal here one partner,

604
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: one sports league, one event, truly global rights, you start

605
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, how can we reach an audience

606
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: that we never could reach before. So that's something that

607
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: streaming services bring, whether it's Amazon or Peacocker or Netflix,

608
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: and I'm sure something will continue to look at. But

609
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of the games are going to remain

610
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: on over the air television. That's the you know, NFL's

611
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: bread and butter. That's where we've been forever. That's where

612
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: the vast majority of our fans find us. And as

613
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: you know, even if you are on a streaming service

614
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Speaker 1: for one of your games, the game is still available

615
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: on free over the air television in the whole markets

616
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Speaker 1: of the competing teams. I doubt that will ever go away.

617
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Speaker 2: I don't know how many millions of people subscribe to Netflix,

618
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: but it seems.

619
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Speaker 1: Two hundred and sixty million world.

620
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: Will go to sixty million worldwide. I was going to say,

621
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Speaker 2: it seems to me that most of the people I

622
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Speaker 2: know have Netflix. Did you get less pushback Netflix than

623
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: Peacock or some of the other streaming services?

624
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: You know for those who you know just want to

625
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: kind of howl at the wind and say, how could

626
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: you do this? Like the answers no. But practically speaking,

627
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, I always go back. I think about you know, what,

628
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: was it late eighties when the NFL went to ESPN

629
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: for the first time, so the first time they took

630
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: games off of free over the air television put it

631
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: on a pay service. We went to ESPN with a

632
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: half package of Sunday night games at that time, and

633
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: I think ESPN was in fifteen million homes. So talk

634
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: about a risk, Talk about a calculated gamble for the NFL.

635
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: Then we went to Amazon for Thursday Night Football a

636
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, they were in like one hundred

637
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: and fifty million homes. Now you think about Netflix globally

638
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty million homes. Like we said, you fish,

639
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 1: where the fish are, that's where the people are ingesting

640
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: their content. That's where the fans are interacting with the

641
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: National Football League, and especially, like we said, kind of

642
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: like that younger audience. You know, you and I are

643
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: going to find the games if we get some help

644
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: from our kids. But the kids are interacting with the

645
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: games on those platforms, we've got to make sure the

646
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: content is there for them there.

647
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: So you shared at the beginning of this conversation that

648
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: last year Bengals Chiefs coming up back to back AFC

649
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: Championship games was one of the most desired games from

650
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: your TV partners. How about this year, What were the

651
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: games that the TV network spot over this year?

652
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's no fight, right. They all make us

653
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 1: their list at the beginning of the process and they

654
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: say here's the game we'd really love to see, and

655
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Speaker 1: then it's up to the scheduling makers and the commissioner

656
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: to really figure out how to dole out all those

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Speaker 1: top games to everybody. So you know, nobody gets everything.

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Speaker 1: Everybody gets something. I would tell you since CKC is

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Speaker 1: still at the top of that list, you know, not

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Speaker 1: that we got robbed, but you know it wasn't quite

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Speaker 1: what we hoped for for last season, so kind of

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Speaker 1: run it back this year. Do that one nice and

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Speaker 1: early Buffalo, cac Dallas sanfran They play each other, you know,

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Speaker 1: no more than you know once every three years, more

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Speaker 1: often than not. And those are obviously two of our

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Speaker 1: iconic brands. And certainly anytime you get a Super Bowl rematch,

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Speaker 1: We've been fortunate enough with the expanded season and how

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Speaker 1: you get those extra that seventeenth game and it's a

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Speaker 1: one versus one. We wandered into a super Bowl rematch

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Speaker 1: each of the last couple of years. So you think

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Speaker 1: about that, Philly, Casey. Last year, we did it on

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Speaker 1: a Monday night game, and I remember one of the

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Speaker 1: ESPN executives texted us that day that afternoon telling us

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Speaker 1: it felt like a Super Bowl. So any kind of

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl rematch Casey Sanford this year, we're going to

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Speaker 1: do it in the afternoon on Fox, like we said,

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Speaker 1: probably going to be the most watched game maybe the

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Speaker 1: whole season outside of Thanksgiving and Christmas. So you put

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Speaker 1: that big, kind of mussy TV game four thirty in

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Speaker 1: the afternoon on Sunday. With any luck, you know, you

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Speaker 1: get the home team playing at one o'clock. Everybody watches

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Speaker 1: like we've been doing for decades, you get the big

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Speaker 1: game at four o'clock, and then if we guessed right,

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Speaker 1: that Sunday night game kind of hour seven, eight to

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Speaker 1: nine of NFL Football, and hopefully a good Thursday night

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Speaker 1: game to start the week and a good Monday night

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Speaker 1: game the end the week. That's a lot of mouths

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Speaker 1: to feed every weekend of the year. But you know, thankfully,

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Speaker 1: our fans have shown us that they'll find us wherever

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Speaker 1: we put the games. And you know, even if our

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Speaker 1: storyline anticipation wasn't right here in May, it's the beauty

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Speaker 1: of this league. Right If somebody's down, that just means

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Speaker 1: somebody else's up. So if we guessed wrong on a

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Speaker 1: primetime game, that's where flexible scheduling kicks in and maybe

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Speaker 1: another Bengals game find its way into primetime if you

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Speaker 1: guys are playing for stuff down stretch.

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Speaker 2: When the schedule came out, we all looked at it,

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Speaker 2: specifically through a Bengals lens. From your perspective, what were

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Speaker 2: some of the biggest challenges, some of the most interesting

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Speaker 2: things that came about from this year's schedule.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly Wednesday was a new one on me, But

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Speaker 1: like I said, we kind of figured it out relatively

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Speaker 1: early in the process, how to at least get those

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Speaker 1: four teams playing that Sunday, Saturday Wednesday cadence. The real

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Speaker 1: challenge we found was week seventeen in a vacuum. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about two games on a Wednesday, still, a regular

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Speaker 1: Amazon game on Thursday, three games on Saturday. NFL Network

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Speaker 1: we always play those late season Saturdays in December, a

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Speaker 1: Sunday night and a Monday night. That's an awful lot

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Speaker 1: of games that are not being played on Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: So I think one of the real challenges we're facing

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Speaker 1: this year and really looking forward, is kind of slicing

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Speaker 1: this pie thinner and thinner more games off to primetime,

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Speaker 1: whether it's you know, Thursday nights or Black Friday or

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Speaker 1: now Wednesdays, or nine thirty am London games or side

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Speaker 1: by side Monday night games. And that's just an awful

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Speaker 1: lot of places for games to go other than Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: And when you and I grew up watching football Sunday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: there was probably ten twelve games most Sunday afternoons. You

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Speaker 1: either played in the afternoon on Sunday or you played

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. That was kind of it. A couple of

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving games Monday nights came about in the late seventies

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Speaker 1: or early seventies, I should say, I think the real

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Speaker 1: challenge for us this year and moving forward is, you know,

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Speaker 1: thinning out the pool of games for Sunday afternoon for

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Speaker 1: CBS and Fox and making sure you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: just take all the best games, put them in primetime

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Speaker 1: and not leave you know, quality and quantity behind for

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Speaker 1: Sunday afternoons. So managing our way around what the Sunday

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Speaker 1: afternoons look like between CBS and Fox, that's been one

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Speaker 1: of the real challenges for us.

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Speaker 2: Mike, I always enjoy these conversations. I know you get

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Speaker 2: a lot of requests to do podcasts like this. Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for making time for us, and now look

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Speaker 2: forward to doing it again next year.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you Dan anytime. Thanks for having me.

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