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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is the one and

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Speaker 1: only Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our

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Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field and West. We are inching ever

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Speaker 1: closer to the first round of the two thousand eighteen

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. It will be Thursday night, starting at seven

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Speaker 1: pm Central Time. So I want to spend a good

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Speaker 1: chunk of this show talking about the first round and

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Speaker 1: how it might unfold. There are all kinds of scenarios

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Speaker 1: as far as how this could go for the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers currently sitting with the number fourteen overall pick.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a gut feeling as to who might

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Speaker 1: be available, who the Packers might be choosing from, assuming

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Speaker 1: they decided to stay at fourteen for now? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think you do. Uh, this is the first year I

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Speaker 1: think you can confidently say that the the The contrasting

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Speaker 1: part to this, though, Mike, is the fact that out

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Speaker 1: of all the years that the Packers we're picking near

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Speaker 1: the end of the first round, this is probably the

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Speaker 1: year where you're getting a little bit more bang for

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Speaker 1: your buck at the end of the round, depending on

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Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks go, depending on if there's a run

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Speaker 1: in a certain player. UM not that saying it will

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Speaker 1: be picked through by any means at fourteen, but there

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Speaker 1: really seems to be The Packers are right on that

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Speaker 1: line right now in terms of where I think you're

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Speaker 1: truly going to find the elite players. And then when

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Speaker 1: you're starting to find guys a little bit based on projection,

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Speaker 1: you have the five quarterbacks. I know Mason Rudolph's name

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Speaker 1: now is getting thrown out there too as a potential

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Speaker 1: first rounder. I don't know if he ends up in

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Speaker 1: that vicinity at all. But then you got that next wave,

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Speaker 1: and in the way I look at it, I think

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Speaker 1: you have five elite type prospects. As far as the

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Speaker 1: defense is concerned, it's Bradley Chubb, believe it's Smith from

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Speaker 1: then the three defensive backs Derwin James mco Fitzpatrick and

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Speaker 1: Denzel Ward. The Packers would be through the moon if

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Speaker 1: Ward was available at fourteen. The only question is, though,

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Speaker 1: with him being the top natural cornerback in this spot

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Speaker 1: and this being a passing league, whether or not he

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Speaker 1: can trickle down that far. Yeah, I would say the

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Speaker 1: other guy that I'm hearing. If you're talking about that

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Speaker 1: the elite defensive prospects, you throw Tremaine Edmunds from Virginia

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Speaker 1: Tech into that mix, so that gives you that gives

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Speaker 1: you six guys there, um two or three linebackers essentially

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Speaker 1: in Chubbs, Smith and Edmonds, and then the three defensive

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Speaker 1: backs that you mentioned. Really, this whole thing is going

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Speaker 1: to be dictated by the quarterbacks. You've got the top

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Speaker 1: four quarterbacks, Alan, Rosen, Donald, and Mayfield. They could go

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Speaker 1: in whatever order. Lamar Jackson being talked about as the

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Speaker 1: um as the potential fifth quarterback, Sae Kwon Barkley, Quentin

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Speaker 1: also being talked about as as top ten picks, possibly

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks go that are going to that's going to determine

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Speaker 1: who will be there for the Packers on that that

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Speaker 1: number fourteen line. And I'm gonna throw one other name

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Speaker 1: who could change this holy equation. And I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey, the left tackle from Notre Dame. Because this

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Speaker 1: is a very Matt There you go, Matt Ryan's cousin.

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Speaker 1: This is a very thin draft for franchise left tackles,

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Speaker 1: and McGlinchey, by all accounts, is probably the best one

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Speaker 1: is really really enamored with him, that's another guy who

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Speaker 1: and then pushes another one of those defensive prospects potentially

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Speaker 1: down to number fourteen. But you don't really know. You

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Speaker 1: just don't know how this is gonna go there. There

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Speaker 1: are any number of ways. There are any number of

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Speaker 1: ways it could go. But I agree with you that

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Speaker 1: I don't think Chubb or Smith is going to be

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Speaker 1: And another thing to bring up to and you mentioned McGlinchey.

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Speaker 1: This is what you mentioned. It's not a great year

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that they

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Speaker 1: And Okay, so if the Giants do take the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: then Barkley is probably not making it past number four

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Speaker 1: another quarterbacks. So then what position does John Dorsey take?

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Speaker 1: This is the big question. And then if you want

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Speaker 1: to make it just a little bit more confusing, Mike,

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Speaker 1: those phones are constantly. There's teams looking to move up.

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Speaker 1: There's teams that are, you know, kind of mortgaging their

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Speaker 1: to help them right starting this day one. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: for those wondering about the hair comment, to clarify for people,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned in our Insider Inbox column that if John Dorsey,

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Speaker 1: as GM of the Browns takes quarterbacks with both the

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Speaker 1: first and the fourth pick, that you would shave my head.

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Speaker 1: I was not involved in this decision whatsoever, but you

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Speaker 1: threw it out there. So now I think the Insider

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Speaker 1: Inbox community is going to hold you to it. Oh. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't put my own hair on this, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Look at that some luscious locks that you have going

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Speaker 1: I would be foolish to put my own hair on

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Speaker 1: the line, but I did want to understate the fact

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Speaker 1: that it would be tempting, especially in this environment, to

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Speaker 1: take two quarterbacks. But you got to remember the position

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Speaker 1: you'd be putting those young men in. They want to

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Speaker 1: say that they're the franchise you want to rally around

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Speaker 1: for it. But Dorsey holding that first and fourth pick,

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Speaker 1: he's he's also the turnkey guy in this draft. In

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Speaker 1: some respect, it's very important because he could trade it.

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Speaker 1: He could take a really good football player at that spot. Um,

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Speaker 1: just it's a lot of question marks, and it's all

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Speaker 1: based on what really, to me, the Giants end up

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Speaker 1: doing at number two. Yeah, and you mentioned some trade scenarios,

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Speaker 1: and I want to talk about those after the Breakback

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Speaker 1: with Moron Packers Unscripted, right after this Welcome Back to

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Speaker 1: Packers unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair, West hodku WIT's

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Speaker 1: in that one, okay, West. So if the Packers decide

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Speaker 1: to trade out of the fourteen spot, do you see them?

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Speaker 1: Do you see Brian goudacunt is going up or back?

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Speaker 1: I want to go up. They find the Packers. And

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Speaker 1: the reason I've said this so long, Mike, it's it's

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Speaker 1: probably going to be a broken record at this point,

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Speaker 1: but this is an opportunity. I've said it since the

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Speaker 1: very end of the season when we knew the Grim

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers were going to be picking. This is your

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Speaker 1: want to get married to guys, obviously Brian Goodquin's talk

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Speaker 1: the right balance that that you're not just going out

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Speaker 1: is just the greatest thing since sliced bread, there has

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Speaker 1: to be value taken into account. But I just feel,

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Speaker 1: I would trade up. And that's when you when you

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Speaker 1: talk about the value being there, that's all part of

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Speaker 1: the equation. When we're talking about these quarterbacks, that these four,

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Speaker 1: possibly five quarterbacks that could go in the top ten

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Speaker 1: or twelve picks, that's pushing down you know, best player

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks out of the mix, our top five, top six,

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Speaker 1: say opportunity, the packers normally have been picking at you know,

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Speaker 1: hear you say opportunity, that's what I'm understanding. You're saying, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: there's one of these teams with two first round picks,

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Speaker 1: or somebody overwhelms you, and then the draft value chart

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Speaker 1: just tells you you're getting a bargain. Okay, you play

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Speaker 1: that game. But my thought is is that it's just

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Speaker 1: you have whether it's somebody's gonna fall like somebody will unequivocally.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna get one of the top defensive backs,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get one of the top pass structures, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get one of the top prospects in this draft

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Speaker 1: with over a thousand players will be entering the league here,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get one one of the top one percent

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Speaker 1: You want to be able to get as much value

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Speaker 1: that number fourteen spot is a huge asset and that

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Speaker 1: it gives you the power to potentially move up and

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Speaker 1: also gives you the option that depending on what happens

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Speaker 1: at the cornerback position, if quarterbacks don't end up going

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Speaker 1: in the first ten, and maybe there isn't a guy

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Speaker 1: and get one of those quarterbacks that fell another option

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Speaker 1: and nine. We've said it many times. The last time

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Speaker 1: back to our question of if one of those dbs

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Speaker 1: is there and the Packers really really like that guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, is Brian Goodin is gonna pull the trigger

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Speaker 1: and make a trade and make sure he doesn't miss out?

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Speaker 1: And I touched on this an Insider in boxes past week. Mike,

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Speaker 1: to me, that's why I've been saying best available playmakers

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Speaker 1: the need for the Packers, and more specifically, that's the

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Speaker 1: slot cornerback position. You can manufacture things sometimes on the boundary,

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Speaker 1: but you need that Charles Woodson type player. It looks

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Speaker 1: like either Fitzpatrick or James could be that guy. I

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Speaker 1: think Ward gives you a little bit more flexibility in

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Speaker 1: terms of being able to be used outside. That's the

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Speaker 1: quandary right now for all these gms and for Brian

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Speaker 1: Goodkins trying figure out who's gonna be the next big fit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and with that, we are a little closer to the

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Speaker 1: first round of the NFL Draft, and we will sign

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Speaker 1: off for now on Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow

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